subject:"\[tw\] Query\: Markup Parsers"

Tony,

Try these:

;Pretty quotes
^':: SendInput “
^+':: SendInput ”



That's Ctrl ' and Ctrl-Shift '  (that's a single-quote at the end of each)


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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers

2017-09-12 Thread TonyM

Coda,

Off topic on Autohotkey

I am a big user of autohot key, just a few very effective key board 
alternatives.

I just added the following;

^,::
Send <<
return
^.::
send >>
return

So Control < and Control > give be doubles

Others include

   1. NumpadEnter::Send {Down}{Home}
   Move to beginning of next line without a new line
   2. +NumpadEnter::Send {Down}{End}
   Move to the end of next line without a new line
   3. CapsLock::Shift
   Never use Capslock but making it a shift sO I DO NOT SHOUT
   

Which make my life so much easier

Tony

PS Windows 10 considers it malware.
 

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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers

Hi jan

On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 4:31:56 PM UTC-5, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Coda,
> I would like to avoid expressions looking to technical in the inputText.
> In my concept the macro is transcluded by the rolename:
>
> {{Peter}} like all roles leads to a tiddler which a only macro called 
> <> as text. The macro is defined:
> \define role() 
> <$list 
> filter="[{!!title}tag[emphasis]]"><$list 
> filter="[{!!title}has[name]]"emptyMessage={{!!title}}>{{!!name}}
> \end
>

That's completely fine (I think).  I hate typing out << and >> everywhere 
-- when authoring, it breaks my concentration and "flow".

My "system" doesn't care what the markup looks like (it can be any 
TW-valid-text -- a macro, a transclusion or any combination you can dream 
up).  My question was to make sure you're okay with seeing regular TW 
markup in the editor and have the system output something else entirely 
(which, when it is displayed in VIEW mode looks entirely different again).  
I guess I didn't phrase the question properly.

Perhaps I should explain my system?  I hope you're running Windows...

I use a combination of AutoHotKey (AHK) and TW macros to produce markup.  I 
find it extraordinarily useful for oft repeated phrases which occur a lot 
(when authoring) and should always look the same.  So, for example, in TW, 
I define a single macro for each main character.  <> and <>, 
for example.  Then, in AHK I define another macro which *triggers* the TW 
macro reference as output -- I make sure that the AHK macro is as short as 
possible, made up of one or two or at most three characters unlikely to 
occur "naturally" -- using a hyphen at the start or end can help.

While I can't "see" exactly what it is you're trying to achieve (again, I 
don't know screenwriting lingo), I'm now convinced the combination of TW ~ 
AHK is the way to trigger anything you want to "magically appear" in the 
editor with one or two keystrokes.

So, final example, here's my section divider in TW:

\define break() 

And here is the AHK macro that triggers it:

:*:brk::   <>

In TW, I type brk and out pops a call to <> which, as you can see 
will end up with a P element, a BR element and so on. 

Now, just in case I haven't explained my system good enough for you, let me 
say it another way...

AHK doesn't care how long or complex its output is.  With a suitably 
short/obscure key combo, you can output as much TW-wiki syntax as you like, 
identically, a thousand times over, with ease.

Any questions?  You know where I am :)

AHK Link:  https://autohotkey.com/

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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers


Hi Coda,
I would like to avoid expressions looking to technical in the inputText.
In my concept the macro is transcluded by the rolename:

{{Peter}} like all roles leads to a tiddler which a only macro called 
<> as text. The macro is defined:

\define role()
<$list 
filter="[{!!title}tag[emphasis]]"><$list 
filter="[{!!title}has[name]]"emptyMessage={{!!title}}>{{!!name}}

\end
This makes it possible to swap the names afterwards and to use uppercase 
in the stylesheet.


My Problems start with the following:

There are two Layouts.
One for small devices using

PETER:
Now I say something.
Single Linebreaks are /okay/.

And for print an big screens which should display with indent roles:

PETER:   Now I say something.
  Single Linebreaks are /okay/.
BOB:  And here I answer.
  Here the spaces schould be displayed

This is why I chose to display the roles within  elements.
...

You see, it is quite developped but it works if everything is entered 
correctlay.
And the ReplacePragma I mentioned would solve all problems which resolve 
in forgetting a line-break or so...


Yours Jan


Am 12.09.2017 um 21:04 schrieb codacodercodaco...@outlook.com:

Thanks Jan.  That's very helpful.

Okay, next question...

In principle, are you happy with using references to TW macros in the 
input text?  For example:


<>

Which would generate the following in the output (i.e. when viewed in TW)

PETER

NOTE:  I said "in principle" and "using references".  I'm not 
proposing that have to *type* them like that in the editor.  Also, 
don't get hung up on my choice of macro name (<>) it could be 
<> - it's not important right now.


One step at a time... :)

On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-5, Jan wrote:

Hi Coda,
I hope this is what you want:


InputText:

!Peter and Bob are doing some Action
{{Peter}}Now I say something.
Single Linebreaks are //okay//.
{{AnotherNamelaterreplacedbyBob}} And here I answer.
> Here the spaces schould be displayed

OutputText:

/Peter and Bob are doing some Action/

PETER
Now I say something.
Single Linebreaks are /okay/.

BOB
And here I answer.
 Here the spaces schould be displayed


I hope this demonstration is okay.
Basically this is what I want.


Thanks for your help
Jan









Am 12.09.2017 um 16:43 schrieb codacoder...@outlook.com :

Thanks Jan.

It would be better if you present this DEVOID of JARGON.  I don't
know (nor do I want to learn) screenwriting.  Take what you've
written here, and present it like this:

I want to write something like this in the TW editor:

INPUT TEXT HERE

I want it to render (wikify) to something like this:

OUTPUT TEXT HERE

That way I can see what you are trying to achieve without getting
bogged down in a bunch of terminology which, frankly, might be
irrelevant.

Hope that makes sense.

It's possible my idea may work for you guys.  It's also possible
it won't.  But I need something representative to test.  Okay?



On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 9:01:17 AM UTC-5, Jan wrote:

Hi Coda.
My concept for formating is quite simple
I built a tool which is transclusions for the rolenames,
which are automatically inserted by Alain Dutech Comptext-Plugin.
For simplicity I would use headings for the action, and the
Tiddler-Ttitle (or an Alias inserted by the Alias-Plugin) for
the scene-title.

Thus:

/Peter and Bob are doing some Action/

PETER
Now I say something.

BOB
And here I answer.

Would look like that in Editmode:

!Peter and Bob are doing some Action
{{Peter}}Now I say something.
{{AnotherNamelaterreplacedbyBob}} And here I answer.

The issue of indent rolenames can be handled by using
|-Elements |which should give a
:Forced negative indent Line.

My use for the replacePragma would the following to avoid
breaking the list by forgetting the preceding blank line:

\replace /\n!/\n\n!/
\replace /\n:/\n\n:/
\replace /\n{{/\n\n:{{/
\replace /}}/}} /

Thanks for your help!
Jan








Am 12.09.2017 um 14:46 schrieb codacoder...@outlook.com:

Hi Joshua

Let me ask a question (apologies if this is answered
somewhere above but since this thread and its "parent"
thread are long, I wanted to ask it and get a straight
answer) ...

What does the text look like that you wish to enter into a
tiddler in EDIT mode?

Second Question...

What does the text look like that TW will render assuming
you have your ideal magical tool?

Please, keep regexes, javascript et al out of this - keep it
simple.

Coda
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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers

Thanks Jan.  That's very helpful.

Okay, next question...

In principle, are you happy with using references to TW macros in the input 
text?  For example:

<>

Which would generate the following in the output (i.e. when viewed in TW)

PETER

NOTE:  I said "in principle" and "using references".  I'm not proposing 
that have to *type* them like that in the editor.  Also, don't get hung up 
on my choice of macro name (<>) it could be <> - it's not 
important right now.

One step at a time... :)

On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-5, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Coda,
> I hope this is what you want:
>
>
> InputText:
>
> !Peter and Bob are doing some Action
> {{Peter}}Now I say something. 
> Single Linebreaks are //okay//.
> {{AnotherNamelaterreplacedbyBob}} And here I answer.
> > Here the spaces schould be displayed
>
> OutputText:
>
> *Peter and Bob are doing some Action*
>
> PETER
> Now I say something. 
> Single Linebreaks are *okay*.
>
> BOB 
> And here I answer.
>  Here the spaces schould be displayed
>
>
> I hope this demonstration is okay.
> Basically this is what I want. 
>
>
> Thanks for your help
> Jan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 12.09.2017 um 16:43 schrieb codacoder...@outlook.com :
>
> Thanks Jan.
>
> It would be better if you present this DEVOID of JARGON.  I don't know 
> (nor do I want to learn) screenwriting.  Take what you've written here, and 
> present it like this:
>
> I want to write something like this in the TW editor:
>
> INPUT TEXT HERE
>
> I want it to render (wikify) to something like this:
>
> OUTPUT TEXT HERE
>
> That way I can see what you are trying to achieve without getting bogged 
> down in a bunch of terminology which, frankly, might be irrelevant.
>
> Hope that makes sense.
>
> It's possible my idea may work for you guys.  It's also possible it 
> won't.  But I need something representative to test.  Okay?
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 9:01:17 AM UTC-5, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hi Coda.
>> My concept for formating is quite simple
>> I built a tool which is transclusions for the rolenames, which are 
>> automatically inserted by Alain Dutech Comptext-Plugin.
>> For simplicity I would use headings for the action, and the 
>> Tiddler-Ttitle (or an Alias inserted by the Alias-Plugin) for the 
>> scene-title.
>>
>> Thus:
>>
>> *Peter and Bob are doing some Action*
>>
>> PETER
>> Now I say something. 
>>
>> BOB 
>> And here I answer.
>>
>> Would look like that in Editmode:
>>
>> !Peter and Bob are doing some Action
>> {{Peter}}Now I say something. 
>> {{AnotherNamelaterreplacedbyBob}} And here I answer.
>>
>> The issue of indent rolenames can be handled by using -Elements which 
>> should give a
>> :Forced negative indent Line.
>>
>> My use for the replacePragma would the following to avoid breaking the 
>> list by forgetting the preceding blank line:
>>
>> \replace /\n!/\n\n!/
>> \replace /\n:/\n\n:/
>> \replace /\n{{/\n\n:{{/
>> \replace /}}/}} /
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 12.09.2017 um 14:46 schrieb codacoder...@outlook.com:
>>
>> Hi Joshua
>>
>> Let me ask a question (apologies if this is answered somewhere above but 
>> since this thread and its "parent" thread are long, I wanted to ask it and 
>> get a straight answer) ...
>>
>> What does the text look like that you wish to enter into a tiddler in 
>> EDIT mode?
>>
>> Second Question...
>>
>> What does the text look like that TW will render assuming you have your 
>> ideal magical tool?
>>
>> Please, keep regexes, javascript et al out of this - keep it simple.
>>
>> Coda
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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers

Ciao Jan

Its interesting looking at that. Its more about intelligent "guessing" than 
the markup I'm interested in. I think it could be easy in RegEx. I'm not 
convinced you need ANY complex things at all to format that. So long as it 
stays so well structured a couple of RegExs could likely do it.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:21:06 UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Coda,
> I hope this is what you want:
>
>
> InputText:
>
> !Peter and Bob are doing some Action
> {{Peter}}Now I say something. 
> Single Linebreaks are //okay//.
> {{AnotherNamelaterreplacedbyBob}} And here I answer.
> > Here the spaces schould be displayed
>
> OutputText:
>
> *Peter and Bob are doing some Action*
>
> PETER
> Now I say something. 
> Single Linebreaks are *okay*.
>
> BOB 
> And here I answer.
>  Here the spaces schould be displayed
>
>
> I hope this demonstration is okay.
> Basically this is what I want. 
>
>
> Thanks for your help
> Jan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 12.09.2017 um 16:43 schrieb codacoder...@outlook.com :
>
> Thanks Jan.
>
> It would be better if you present this DEVOID of JARGON.  I don't know 
> (nor do I want to learn) screenwriting.  Take what you've written here, and 
> present it like this:
>
> I want to write something like this in the TW editor:
>
> INPUT TEXT HERE
>
> I want it to render (wikify) to something like this:
>
> OUTPUT TEXT HERE
>
> That way I can see what you are trying to achieve without getting bogged 
> down in a bunch of terminology which, frankly, might be irrelevant.
>
> Hope that makes sense.
>
> It's possible my idea may work for you guys.  It's also possible it 
> won't.  But I need something representative to test.  Okay?
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 9:01:17 AM UTC-5, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hi Coda.
>> My concept for formating is quite simple
>> I built a tool which is transclusions for the rolenames, which are 
>> automatically inserted by Alain Dutech Comptext-Plugin.
>> For simplicity I would use headings for the action, and the 
>> Tiddler-Ttitle (or an Alias inserted by the Alias-Plugin) for the 
>> scene-title.
>>
>> Thus:
>>
>> *Peter and Bob are doing some Action*
>>
>> PETER
>> Now I say something. 
>>
>> BOB 
>> And here I answer.
>>
>> Would look like that in Editmode:
>>
>> !Peter and Bob are doing some Action
>> {{Peter}}Now I say something. 
>> {{AnotherNamelaterreplacedbyBob}} And here I answer.
>>
>> The issue of indent rolenames can be handled by using -Elements which 
>> should give a
>> :Forced negative indent Line.
>>
>> My use for the replacePragma would the following to avoid breaking the 
>> list by forgetting the preceding blank line:
>>
>> \replace /\n!/\n\n!/
>> \replace /\n:/\n\n:/
>> \replace /\n{{/\n\n:{{/
>> \replace /}}/}} /
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 12.09.2017 um 14:46 schrieb codacoder...@outlook.com:
>>
>> Hi Joshua
>>
>> Let me ask a question (apologies if this is answered somewhere above but 
>> since this thread and its "parent" thread are long, I wanted to ask it and 
>> get a straight answer) ...
>>
>> What does the text look like that you wish to enter into a tiddler in 
>> EDIT mode?
>>
>> Second Question...
>>
>> What does the text look like that TW will render assuming you have your 
>> ideal magical tool?
>>
>> Please, keep regexes, javascript et al out of this - keep it simple.
>>
>> Coda
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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers

Hi Coda,
I hope this is what you want:

InputText:

!Peter and Bob are doing some Action
{{Peter}}Now I say something.
Single Linebreaks are //okay//.
{{AnotherNamelaterreplacedbyBob}} And here I answer.
> Here the spaces schould be displayed

OutputText:

/Peter and Bob are doing some Action/

PETER
Now I say something.
Single Linebreaks are /okay/.

BOB
And here I answer.
Here the spaces schould be displayed

I hope this demonstration is okay.
Basically this is what I want.

Thanks for your help
Jan

Am 12.09.2017 um 16:43 schrieb codacodercodaco...@outlook.com:

Thanks Jan.

It would be better if you present this DEVOID of JARGON. I don't know
(nor do I want to learn) screenwriting. Take what you've written
here, and present it like this:

I want to write something like this in the TW editor:

INPUT TEXT HERE

I want it to render (wikify) to something like this:

OUTPUT TEXT HERE

That way I can see what you are trying to achieve without getting
bogged down in a bunch of terminology which, frankly, might be irrelevant.

Hope that makes sense.

It's possible my idea may work for you guys. It's also possible it
won't. But I need something representative to test. Okay?

On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 9:01:17 AM UTC-5, Jan wrote:

Hi Coda.
My concept for formating is quite simple
I built a tool which is transclusions for the rolenames, which are
automatically inserted by Alain Dutech Comptext-Plugin.
For simplicity I would use headings for the action, and the
Tiddler-Ttitle (or an Alias inserted by the Alias-Plugin) for the
scene-title.

Thus:

/Peter and Bob are doing some Action/

PETER
Now I say something.

BOB
And here I answer.

Would look like that in Editmode:

!Peter and Bob are doing some Action
{{Peter}}Now I say something.
{{AnotherNamelaterreplacedbyBob}} And here I answer.

The issue of indent rolenames can be handled by using
|-Elements |which should give a
:Forced negative indent Line.

My use for the replacePragma would the following to avoid breaking
the list by forgetting the preceding blank line:

\replace /\n!/\n\n!/
\replace /\n:/\n\n:/
\replace /\n{{/\n\n:{{/
\replace /}}/}} /

Thanks for your help!
Jan

Am 12.09.2017 um 14:46 schrieb codacoder...@outlook.com :

Hi Joshua

Let me ask a question (apologies if this is answered somewhere
above but since this thread and its "parent" thread are long, I
wanted to ask it and get a straight answer) ...

What does the text look like that you wish to enter into a
tiddler in EDIT mode?

Second Question...

What does the text look like that TW will render assuming you
have your ideal magical tool?

Please, keep regexes, javascript et al out of this - keep it simple.

Coda
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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers

Thanks Jan.

It would be better if you present this DEVOID of JARGON.  I don't know (nor 
do I want to learn) screenwriting.  Take what you've written here, and 
present it like this:

I want to write something like this in the TW editor:

INPUT TEXT HERE

I want it to render (wikify) to something like this:

OUTPUT TEXT HERE

That way I can see what you are trying to achieve without getting bogged 
down in a bunch of terminology which, frankly, might be irrelevant.

Hope that makes sense.

It's possible my idea may work for you guys.  It's also possible it won't.  
But I need something representative to test.  Okay?



On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 9:01:17 AM UTC-5, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Coda.
> My concept for formating is quite simple
> I built a tool which is transclusions for the rolenames, which are 
> automatically inserted by Alain Dutech Comptext-Plugin.
> For simplicity I would use headings for the action, and the Tiddler-Ttitle 
> (or an Alias inserted by the Alias-Plugin) for the scene-title.
>
> Thus:
>
> *Peter and Bob are doing some Action*
>
> PETER
> Now I say something. 
>
> BOB 
> And here I answer.
>
> Would look like that in Editmode:
>
> [Title]
> !Peter and Bob are doing some Action
> {{Peter}}Now I say something. 
> {{AnotherNamelaterreplacedbyBob}} And here I answer.
>
> The issue of indent rolenames can be handled by using -Elements which 
> should give a
> :Forced negative indent Line.
>
> My use for the replacePragma would the following to avoid breaking the 
> list by forgetting the preceding blank line:
>
> \replace /\n!/\n\n!/
> \replace /\n:/\n\n:/
> \replace /\n{{/\n\n:{{/
> \replace /}}/}} /
>
> Thanks for your help!
> Jan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 12.09.2017 um 14:46 schrieb codacoder...@outlook.com :
>
> Hi Joshua
>
> Let me ask a question (apologies if this is answered somewhere above but 
> since this thread and its "parent" thread are long, I wanted to ask it and 
> get a straight answer) ...
>
> What does the text look like that you wish to enter into a tiddler in EDIT 
> mode?
>
> Second Question...
>
> What does the text look like that TW will render assuming you have your 
> ideal magical tool?
>
> Please, keep regexes, javascript et al out of this - keep it simple.
>
> Coda
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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers

Thus:

/Peter and Bob are doing some Action/

PETER
Now I say something.

BOB
And here I answer.

Would look like that in Editmode:

[Title]
!Peter and Bob are doing some Action
{{Peter}}Now I say something.
{{AnotherNamelaterreplacedbyBob}} And here I answer.

The issue of indent rolenames can be handled by using |-Elements
|which should give a

:Forced negative indent Line.

My use for the replacePragma would the following to avoid breaking the
list by forgetting the preceding blank line:

\replace /\n!/\n\n!/
\replace /\n:/\n\n:/
\replace /\n{{/\n\n:{{/
\replace /}}/}} /

Thanks for your help!
Jan

Am 12.09.2017 um 14:46 schrieb codacodercodaco...@outlook.com:

Hi Joshua

Let me ask a question (apologies if this is answered somewhere above
but since this thread and its "parent" thread are long, I wanted to
ask it and get a straight answer) ...

What does the text look like that you wish to enter into a tiddler in
EDIT mode?

Second Question...

What does the text look like that TW will render assuming you have
your ideal magical tool?

Please, keep regexes, javascript et al out of this - keep it simple.

Coda
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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers

C, WILL do. J.

codacoder...@outlook.com wrote:
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> Give me some examples, just a few.
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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers

Well, cool, but I don't need an exhaustive presentation of every possible 
combination...  Give me some examples, just a few.

I have an idea that something I'm already doing *could* be of benefit to 
you.  So gimme something to test... okay?



On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 8:39:19 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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> Ciao Coda
>
> Very encouraging to have your interest!!
>
> Good questions.
>
> Give me a couple of days so I don't burden you with a half-baked-ostrich.
>
> Briefly: Input in EDIT is plain text. Output is rendered HTML after 
> scavenged by Regex. But I need get the examples working better before I 
> show you. On the RegEx side I know what I'm doing (for a change :).
>
> Very best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:46:14 UTC+2, codacoder...@outlook.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Joshua
>>
>> Let me ask a question (apologies if this is answered somewhere above but 
>> since this thread and its "parent" thread are long, I wanted to ask it and 
>> get a straight answer) ...
>>
>> What does the text look like that you wish to enter into a tiddler in 
>> EDIT mode?
>>
>> Second Question...
>>
>> What does the text look like that TW will render assuming you have your 
>> ideal magical tool?
>>
>> Please, keep regexes, javascript et al out of this - keep it simple.
>>
>> Coda
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers

Ciao Coda

Very encouraging to have your interest!!

Good questions.

Give me a couple of days so I don't burden you with a half-baked-ostrich.

Briefly: Input in EDIT is plain text. Output is rendered HTML after 
scavenged by Regex. But I need get the examples working better before I 
show you. On the RegEx side I know what I'm doing (for a change :).

Very best wishes
Josiah



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wrote:
>
> Hi Joshua
>
> Let me ask a question (apologies if this is answered somewhere above but 
> since this thread and its "parent" thread are long, I wanted to ask it and 
> get a straight answer) ...
>
> What does the text look like that you wish to enter into a tiddler in EDIT 
> mode?
>
> Second Question...
>
> What does the text look like that TW will render assuming you have your 
> ideal magical tool?
>
> Please, keep regexes, javascript et al out of this - keep it simple.
>
> Coda
>

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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers

Hi Joshua

Let me ask a question (apologies if this is answered somewhere above but 
since this thread and its "parent" thread are long, I wanted to ask it and 
get a straight answer) ...

What does the text look like that you wish to enter into a tiddler in EDIT 
mode?

Second Question...

What does the text look like that TW will render assuming you have your 
ideal magical tool?

Please, keep regexes, javascript et al out of this - keep it simple.

Coda

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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers

Ciao Jan

Regarding safety with Skeeve. And to reduce crashes ...

I now devise & test the regexs using an external program first: RegexBuddy 
. Its an inexpensive Windows program that is 
extremely good. It accurately emulates all versions of JavaScript.  

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw] Query: Markup Parsers

Ciao Jan

*Is your screenwriting plugin somewhere I can take a look so I can better 
understand your approach?*

Regarding parsers for what we need. The more I think about it the clearer 
it gets to me that what is needed is *a "Generic" parser *that you can 
quickly add codes to. For instance, in what I am currently working on the 
markup codes are something like this ...

:s:7 INT. - PARK HUT - NIGHT

:a Baxter enters carrying Perry Mason.

:c BAXTER

:p (coughs)

:d Paul, are you there? Perry had an accident.

To get those lines converted to HTML is quite easy using regular 
expressions. But I DON'T think the specific regexes should be individually 
"HARD CODED" into Javascript. Rather, we should devise a* Markup that is 
extensible* so you could apply the same method for potentially laying out 
many types of document. In short, we need *a method by which a user could 
easily add new codes*.

I'm also thinking there could easily be LONG-FORM codes that a user could 
use till they learned the SHORT-FORM (above) ... For example ...

:scene:7 INT. - PARK HUT - NIGHT

:action Baxter enters carrying Perry Mason.

:character BAXTER

:parenthetical (coughs)

:dialogue Paul, are you there? Perry had an accident.

In addition, add-hoc markup could allow CONVERSION markup to be built -- 
Like being able to convert back & forth with Fountain markup. And also to 
be able to at least part convert plain text screenplays to a TW format.

I'm working on a demo using Skeeve to illustrate those issues. It will take 
me a few more days to finish it. I'm hoping, after that, we'll be able to 
say *more precisely* what we asking of the JavaScript department.

Just today's thoughts.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Tuesday, 12 September 2017 09:40:29 UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Josiah,
> Thanks for keeping this problem in mind, in the moment it is the biggest 
> issue that I have to solve befor issuing a new version of the 
> screenwriting-plugin.
> Skeeve himself says that his pragma could be a deadly sword, but I think 
> the danger can be handled if it is prevented from beeing applied to 
> systemTiddlers: after adjusting all problems will disappear.
>
> So let me repeapt task for js-coders that would have to be solved to bring 
> forward special formats like screenplay and other documents:
> It is to find a way to apply replacements with the replacePragma (
> http://tiddlystuff.tiddlyspot.com/#ReplacePragma) to Tiddlers based on a 
> TW-Filter.
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