Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
pounce;539538 Wrote: > Is this a common term somewhere? In my (non English speaking)area it is a common term, but I can see that this could have a complete other meaning in English. Sorry for the confusion. Still it could have the same meaning in English: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zapping Hopefully we can now consentrate on my problem. Paal -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] basic settings not showing?
JJZolx;539639 Wrote: > > I'm not sure how 3rd party screensavers (applets?) work... maybe as > they're installed they're added to the screensavers from which you can > select. > Third party screen saver applets are added to the same list as the built in screen savers. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77830 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Performance comparison between my old Server and Touch internal one?
Gazjam;539590 Wrote: > How did you find the 7.6 nightly compared to 7.5 performance wise? > Any difference? Scanning performance with 7.6 is much faster (two to three times) if you use SQLite as the database engine (now the default in 7.6). Performance in other tasks feels pretty much the same. But as I use 7.6 with SQLite now as my main server I'm seeing more and more unexplained server brain farts where doing some common taske will take 12 seconds one time and then 1 second the next. I don't think I saw that very often with MySQL. Cached artwork retrieval is faster in 7.6, which can make the web interface feel a little snappier even though page generation times are the same. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77733 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch internal server VS Web Server- Tags
It's good practice to empty the bin often when handling USB drives. After a while you get stuff every where on different discs and starts wondering where all disc space is ? Some people seems to never empty the bin, are they waiting for the janitor or mum to come and empty it ;) -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77793 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] basic settings not showing?
ratso;539583 Wrote: > umm okay so am i just dense (don't answer that) but i can't even find in > the player's onscreen menu how to do simple things like make the font > bigger so i can actually see it There is no such ability on the Touch. What you see is it. > or have the rss feed when the player is off? See Settings > Screen > Screensavers. I'm not sure how 3rd party screensavers (applets?) work... maybe as they're installed they're added to the screensavers from which you can select. > i've seen people talking about turning off the analog vu meters and i > can't even find that? (thanx for the replay BTW). Settings > Screen > Now Playing > Now Playing Views -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77830 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Blanking display.
Check that... It's TWO Squeezebox features that didn't make it. No brightness control via the remote. No brightness settings for the different player states. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77836 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Blanking display.
No, that's another nice Squeezebox feature that didn't make it to Touch. The list is getting long. If you can find an old remote with a Brightness button then you'll find that all it does on the Touch is bring up the Brightness settings menu. >From there you have to hit down-arrow, right-arrow, then lay on the down-arrow for about 20 seconds to darken the screen. What it _should_ do is cycle through a few preset brightness levels, say 100%, 75%, 50%, 25%, 0%. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77836 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch internal server VS Web Server- Tags
starfury;539255 Wrote: > How does the Touch's internal server read tags differently than the > Web/PC version? > > Obviously some of my tags are screwed-up, as the Touch shows multiple > albums, different artwork, etc. I connected the same WD 2 TB HD to my > PC and it was a stark difference. No multiple albums, and it was much > cleaner. > > I would run the server on my PC if my network were wired, but that is > out of the question for my setup. Using Ipeng on my Ipod Touch would > most likely choke on my Hi-res artwork and large collection of flac > files. > > So why is the Touch's internal server having such a hard time with tags > compared to the server on the PC? > > Thanks. Perhaps you are experiencing the same phenonemon as I have. The local server seems to scan also the recycle bin on USB drives. The problem is that you do not see this bin under windows, so you don't know it is there. This may be an explanation why you are getting double albums. It's just some stuff that you once had on the drive but was deleted and forgotten about. -- foxx foxx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36364 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77793 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to lock audio output at 100% (I think)
It works with digital out to ! splendid. Thankyou, I also tested with DTS tracks it is really 100% My klingon is a bit rusty ;) but looking at that code it seem like you are awfully close to being able to design a balance control as gainL and gainR is separate values. The Q of a balance control has ben raised numerous time's I think your karma would increase rapidly if designed an balance applet as well as as an volume lock patch. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77837 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] basic settings not showing?
got it. thanx guys. -- ratso Emerald Physics CS2.3's - Odyssey Stratos/Khartago amps (coming soon) - Supratek Chardonnay Preamp - Slim Devices Touch - Panamax M4300PM power conditioner - KRK Ergo room correction - Cables by Me! ratso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77830 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Blanking display.
I second that. I use iPeng as external interface. I don't need the screen at all. Just a screensaver wouldn't be OK from my perspective either. There should be an option to turn the screen off completely ( under linux it is "vbetool dpms off"). A function like "Screen off" or "Screen Off after XX minutes" would be nice. That should be pretty easy to accomplish. Beside that it'll bring power consumption heavily down I guess. Cheers -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77836 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] How to lock audio output at 100% (I think)
I've only verified this with analog outs (actually, just the headphone jack), but for those of you who want your Touch to always play at 100%, try this: - In Home > Settings > Advanced > Remote login, enable SSH - SSH in as root, password 1234 - Back up the file you're about to edit: Code: cp -p /usr/share/jive/jive/audio/Playback.lua /usr/share/jive/jive/audio/Playback.lua.bak - Edit /usr/share/jive/jive/audio/Playback.lua with 'vi', replacing the line Code: decode:audioGain(data.gainL, data.gainR) which you should find around line #819 with Code: decode:audioGain(65536, 65536) - Reboot your Touch (use the 'reboot' command) - For good measure, use Home > Settings > Advanced > Remote login and disable SSH After you've done this, Touch will behave like a Squeezebox Classic with its volume control disabled -- you'll see onscreen volume indication, the IR remote will make that volume indication change, as will other mechanisms like the touchscreen and web UI. But the audio output will be locked at full volume. Please let me know if this really does seem to work for those of you using your Touch regular analog outs and digital outputs. If so, I'll make a nice patch for Erland's Patch Installer applet so this is easier to apply. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77837 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connection to mysqueezebox.com not happening
Try holding down the little black button above the power supply plug on the back of the unit to do a factory reset. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77833 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Blanking display.
Is there a way to blank the display for listening in the dark? (This feature should be on the remote, IMO.) The display brightness won't dim all the way, and this is a tedious process anyway. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77836 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Blanking display.
Is there a way to blank the display for listening in the dark? (This feature should be on the remote, IMO.) The display brightness won't dim all the way, and this is a tedious process anyway. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77836 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
I just looked and the Touch does NOT have the command to spin down a USB drive. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connection to mysqueezebox.com not happening
Hickup;539605 Wrote: > But this is totally insane, the decision to make the Touch rely on > a working connection to a Server in the Internet is crazy, especially > without any timeout or an option to circumvent that. > > ... I intended to buy an additional Touch for my girlfriend, to set it > up with an attached USB drive - she has no Internet at home. I expected > that to be sufficient, seems like the Internet connection is a must > have I was fortunate to easily establish a wired connection when initially setting up my Touch (at my office). But I bought the Touch for use at my apartment where I have no computer or internet connection. I wanted to simply play from a USB disk drive. I would hope that future versions of the software make the Touch less reliant on calling home (or whatever it's doing on the internet). -- R Johnson R Johnson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36462 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77833 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Very impressed! question though re: headphones
pounce;539558 Wrote: > All outputs are active at the same time. Yep, it's the same behavior as a CD player that has a headphone jack on the front of it. Plug in your 'phones and it will not mute the line-outs on the CD player. The Boom is different - that would be like plugging headphones into your stereo receiver, which you would expect to mute the speakers. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77828 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Connection to mysqueezebox.com not happening
Hello World! This week, I purchased the new Logitech Touch here in Switzerland. 6 hours before, I started to install the device, as of now, I am still stuck at the screen where it says that it is trying to connect to mysqueezebox.com. Basically the behaviour of the machine is always the same. I enter all necessary information to make it part of my network (Wireless or Ethernet, American Region, Other Region, German language, English language, doesn't matter what I try) it will successfully connect to the network and immediatly afterwards, I am stuck. Reset will just take me to the same screen, a factory reset will result in all information to be reentered and then be stuck at this screen. I already opened ports 3483 (TCP/UDP) and 9000 (TCP) on the firewall in my Netgear router and defined a rule, that all incoming traffic will be send to the Squeezebox Touch (I also tried my NAS running the Squeezebox Server 7.5 as a target for the rules - no difference again). I even tried the wireless access of a neighbour, that made no difference. Right now I have been able to give the Touch a fixed IP (not that it makes any difference). I am still stuck at the connection screen and I do not have any option to prevent that or leave that screen. I can monitor the incoming traffic on the ports with the protocol of the firewall. Using a portscanner, I can see incoming packages and what rules are applied. On 3483, the protocol tells me it correctly applies the rule I defined. The portscanner then gives me a "connection refused" message, but not a timeout, which I would expect if there is nothing at this port. Apart from the package from the portscan, there is no incoming traffic at all, certainly not from mysqueezebox.com. I also defined a rule to protocol on outgoing traffic on port 3483 - no traffic at this port outbound from the Touch. On what port does that device try to communicate (although I could not find a way to monitor on port 80 or 8080)? I already own a Duet for quite some time and was rather happy with my setup. But this is totally insane, the decision to make the Touch rely on a working connection to a Server in the Internet is crazy, especially without any timeout or an option to circumvent that. If Logitech decides to shut down the servers for any given reason, I can throw away my devices? Even if everything should be self sufficient: I am running my own Squeezebox Server, I do not listen to Internet Radio. And when the servers are down I cannot use the device to listen to music I store on my own network? I know that Logitech is good on remote controls, but I did not intend to give them the ability to remotely control wether I can listen to music or not. I cannot find any more information on this issue, the manual is a joke and does not offer any help at all. I intended to buy an additional Touch for my girlfriend, to set it up with an attached USB drive - she has no Internet at home. I expected that to be sufficient, seems like the Internet connection is a must have and actually there is no way of really testing connections. I found some screenshots of a diagnostics tab for the Windows installation of Squeezebox Server, but was unable to find anything similar in the ReadyNAS Duo installation I use. And although both devices of my Duet have appeared on the account I created on mysqueezebox.com, they are always displayed with a status of 'Not connected'. Are there any further options to debug or analyse the situation? Although I can connect to the web frontend of mysqueezeserver.com, does this guarantee that the servers are really up and running for the connection of the various Squeezeboxes (as there is no incoming traffic)? Where can I find a real status page on the mysqueezebox.com servers? Is there any other possibility to run some diagnostics? Writing this message took me roundabout half an hour, the Touch was still doing its running circle without any change at all - I hoped that at 3 o'clock in the morning, server traffic would be low on mysqueezebox.com, as I also read about previous connection problems due to the servers not up and running. No luck so far, I really do hope for some hints from this forum. Kind regards, Frank -- Hickup Hickup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31274 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77833 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Performance comparison between my old Server and Touch internal one?
Gazjam;539590 Wrote: > How did you find the 7.6 nightly compared to 7.5 performance wise? > Any difference? Huge difference. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77733 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] basic settings not showing?
There are two "skins" for the Touch, one which shows when you use the IR remote, and one in use when you touch the screen. The "remote" skin has larger fonts and no buttons. The "touch" skin has smaller fonts and buttons you can touch. Pushing any key on the remote goes into the remote skin and touching the screen goes into touch skin. The VU meters are one of the Now Playing Screens. When you are at the now playing screen you can touch the screen anywhere in the middle and it will cycle between 5 different screens: normal, artwork only (no text at all), no artwork, just text, spectrum analyzer and VU meters. Many screens will have a shortcut to the now playing screen, its the music note button in the upper right. Many other screen can be found as "screensavers". You can setup screensavers for now playing, stopped, and off. You choose the screensavers by going to the home menu (touch and hold the upper left button gets you to the Home menu) and selecting: settings>screen>screensavers You can select from a list of screensavers for any of the above mentioned "states" of the player. While you are in the settings menu you might want to try going to the other menus, there quite a few things you can setup. There is also the Advanced menu which has a much larger set of things you can setup. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77830 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Favorites
I'm trying to set a Slacker Station (or a Pandora Station) to a Favorite. The Touch will save it as a favorite, but when selected I get "Cannot request a Non-HTTP URL slacker://stations/." Bug? Or am I doing something wrong? -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77831 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Performance comparison between my old Server and Touch internal one?
How did you find the 7.6 nightly compared to 7.5 performance wise? Any difference? -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77733 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should volume control only affect the analog outputs?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 Question: Should volume control only affect the analog outputs? - Yes, I don't/wouldn't use the digital outputs anyway - Yes, I want to use the digital outputs and want them locked at 100% - Yes (some other reason) - No, I want variable output for the digital outputs - No (some other reason) What's this "only" stuff? I want to be able to configure either. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] basic settings not showing?
ratso;539583 Wrote: > umm okay so am i just dense (don't answer that) but i can't even find in > the player's onscreen menu how to do simple things like make the font > bigger so i can actually see it or have the rss feed when the player is > off? Yes that's the problem Touch has to few user options for it's UI , Most of us want more flexibility. See this bug http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14004 This bug is not even mentioning Font size, we havent got there yet ;) -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77830 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is there any way to adjust the spectrum display?
JohnSwenson;539543 Wrote: > I think I see whats happening. Its performing an FFT, which results in a > linear frequency result. Most spectrum analyzers show log frequency not > linear. The result is something that doesn't look right. Rather than > convert to log frequency a mapping function is applied to the > amplitudes to try and make it look more like what people are expecting. > > > I think the best way to go is dump the amplitude mapping and really > convert the linear frequency to log frequency. Its not that hard to do. > You need to run the FFT with more frequency bands than you have on the > display, and average the bands, with more bands averaged together on > the top and fewer on the bottom. The code is already there to do it, > but its doing a linear averaging (the same number of bands per output > bar). > > If the number of output bars on the display is kept the same you will > need to increase the number of frequency bands in the FFT. So I think > the best compromise is to decrease the number of output bars (to say 8 > or 10) and keep the number of bands about the same. This should give a > much more accurate display without taking much more cpu cycles. > > Of course this is all in C so it has to get compiled into the firmware. > It would probably be much faster to debug this in desktop squeezeplay > where you can get much faster turn around time. > > John S. That make sense so the almost constant bar in the corner is DC offset or residue left becuse even the most monotone music change over time. does it analyze from DC and upwards ? 50Hz to 5-10k ? would suffice to get a nifty display. log makes sense for audio fft as our hearing is log ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77783 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should volume control only affect the analog outputs?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 Question: Should volume control only affect the analog outputs? - Yes, I don't/wouldn't use the digital outputs anyway - Yes, I want to use the digital outputs and want them locked at 100% - Yes (some other reason) - No, I want variable output for the digital outputs - No (some other reason) peterw;539552 Wrote: > Please do say more. There's a Denon owner who just contacted me about > this. He couldn't use DenonSerial b/c DS only supports players where > 100% fixed is an SBS option. He's using iPeng and has to switch to > another iPhone app for amp volume control. I was thinking that the > getexternalvolumeinfo mechanism might be able to indicate the > availability of alternatives for 1) the 'mixer volume' command and 2) > getting the current 0-100 volume. But it would probably be better to > publish a patch for the Touch firmware to fix both outputs, ala SB3, > and use player prefs to indicate that the patch is in effect. (Still > better, of course, for Logitech to publish a fix.) His problems are probably because the iPeng version currently on the App Store doesn't support the getexternalvolume mechanism, that's only in the current beta. What I would try to do would not help your user because iPeng can only control the volume that externally available on the server, so iPeng would just fix the volume as in "really fix it" by making sure it's at 100% and sending a volume command if it's not. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] basic settings not showing?
umm okay so am i just dense (don't answer that) but i can't even find in the player's onscreen menu how to do simple things like make the font bigger so i can actually see it or have the rss feed when the player is off? -- ratso Emerald Physics CS2.3's - Odyssey Stratos/Khartago amps (coming soon) - Supratek Chardonnay Preamp - Slim Devices Touch - Panamax M4300PM power conditioner - KRK Ergo room correction - Cables by Me! ratso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77830 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
m1abrams;539564 Wrote: > Well I know this is not ideal, but you do NOT need a internet connection > if you have a local PC server. Its just one or the other makes things > much better and usually the internet connection is the easiest for > people. The local PC server would provide the clock sync that the > Touch wants. Good to know that! Hard to believe, but NO computer at that location either. I use a WDTV Live for HD ATSC video recordings to a front projector. The WDTV plays the audio quite decently, but I'd have to turn on the projector to select the music. Not cool. Hence, the Touch... -- R Johnson R Johnson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36462 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] basic settings not showing?
Nothing. The Touch has has it own set of preferences available from the settings in it's own menu. The devs have opted for not duplicating this in the web-UI. An old SB3 has much more server options. Personally I would prefere that too. The SB3 actually has more user options to rearrange the UI for example. The Touch should have a similar set of option imho font sizes menu order etc. There is an enhancement request in bugzilla for a more customizable UI -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77830 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should volume control only affect the analog outputs?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 Question: Should volume control only affect the analog outputs? - Yes, I don't/wouldn't use the digital outputs anyway - Yes, I want to use the digital outputs and want them locked at 100% - Yes (some other reason) - No, I want variable output for the digital outputs - No (some other reason) If you want to save options prefs and code, dump the facebook app ;) instead. let us have fixed/variable option for both analog and digital. And the option to turn off digital out when off. Then some essential SB Classic properties, would be restored. If Touch is slated to replace SB3 it's feature set would include everything the SB3 did, Otherwise your doing something wrong. And some user somewhere would miss his favorite feature. Including for example editable "current settings" for network. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] basic settings not showing?
i am having a bit of trouble setting up some basic settings. i'm sure it has to do with my setup which is slightly confusing at least to me. i have a new touch and a new vortexbox. i am having a confusing time trying to figure out how to get them to play nice together. i am trying to use the vortexbox as strictly a ripping NAS and have my computer powered off when listening. VB also has squeezecenter built into it and can be used as a standalone player. but seeing as how i have a nice new full color touch, i would rather use that as my player. so in squeezecenter, i can choose between the two players - VB and touch. if i choose VB, i can go to basic settings and see all the basic settings. but if i choose touch, all that shows up under basic settings are: language, library name, music and playlist location and rescan? what am i doing wrong? -- ratso Emerald Physics CS2.3's - Odyssey Stratos/Khartago amps (coming soon) - Supratek Chardonnay Preamp - Slim Devices Touch - Panamax M4300PM power conditioner - KRK Ergo room correction - Cables by Me! ratso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77830 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Last few seconds of song being cut off...
In my case, the problem occurs with the Touch's onboard server. I haven't used the server over wifi much, but I'll try to get some testing in over the weekend. If the problem is due to encoding, I'm not sure what I can do to fix it. As I said, most of my music is in Apple Lossless encoded using iTunes, which doesn't have any options for that codec. Some of it was originally in FLAC transcoded using dbPoweramp, but I've had the problem with files originally ripped with iTunes. -- MadCityGeoff MadCityGeoff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17429 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77809 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Very impressed! question though re: headphones
Thanks both for the clarification, I guess I was used to using headphones with the Boom which has that option. No problem to turn off the speakers. -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77828 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should volume control only affect the analog outputs?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 Question: Should volume control only affect the analog outputs? - Yes, I don't/wouldn't use the digital outputs anyway - Yes, I want to use the digital outputs and want them locked at 100% - Yes (some other reason) - No, I want variable output for the digital outputs - No (some other reason) No, I would myself always use 100% fixed digital . But this is a case where there should be an options for fixed vs variable output for both analog and digital. I'm not for the "save prefs" logic this is a squeezebox it is what it is because it has options preferences or plugins for everything/anything. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should volume control only affect the analog outputs?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 Question: Should volume control only affect the analog outputs? - Yes, I don't/wouldn't use the digital outputs anyway - Yes, I want to use the digital outputs and want them locked at 100% - Yes (some other reason) - No, I want variable output for the digital outputs - No (some other reason) Having digital out and analog out have different volume is not necessarily easy to add. Right now there is one music stream coming out of squeezeplay which gets cloned in the ALSA config file to both the digital out and the DAC chip. In order to have separate volumes you would need to add another output stream which had its own volume control. Plus of course all the UI and prefs etc. I personally would prefer the choice. In some setups I want to use volume control on the digital out and sometimes I'm using volume control on an external preamp and would like to implement the "virtual volume" on the Touch: keep the output actually at 100% but allow applet to grab the volume setting to send to external preamp. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should volume control only affect the analog outputs?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 Question: Should volume control only affect the analog outputs? - Yes, I don't/wouldn't use the digital outputs anyway - Yes, I want to use the digital outputs and want them locked at 100% - Yes (some other reason) - No, I want variable output for the digital outputs - No (some other reason) No! And I mean absolutely not! -- Valentino Valentino's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Very impressed! question though re: headphones
There is physically no way to turn off the analog outs and still have music through the headphones. I think you are left with some way to remotely turn off the speakers. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77828 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
R Johnson;539562 Wrote: > Thanks for your thoughts. > > I hadn't run across the "Archos 5 Internet Tablet" before. The Touch is > much more what I want. > > I knew that I'd need to connect to the net to do the initial firmware > installation and later updates. I did not expect its need to regularly > call home. I needed to "borrow" a neighbor's (weak) wireless > connection to get the clock working. > > My primary location for the Touch does NOT currently have an internet > connection. I simply wanted to: Play ripped CDs (and some 24/88.2 > downloads) from a small portable USB disk; Have a nice small control > display; and Connect to my existing audio system. Well I know this is not ideal, but you do NOT need a internet connection if you have a local PC server. Its just one or the other makes things much better and usually the internet connection is the easiest for people. The local PC server would provide the clock sync that the Touch wants. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
m1abrams;539512 Wrote: > Honestly though if all you wanted was a stand alone music player why > not go for something like the Archos? > http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5/index.html?country=us&lang=en > ... > That said if networking the Touch is possible for you then I strongly > suggest you do, it will improve the devices usefulness to you. Thanks for your thoughts. I hadn't run across the "Archos 5 Internet Tablet" before. The Touch is much more what I want. I knew that I'd need to connect to the net to do the initial firmware installation and later updates. I did not expect its need to regularly call home. I needed to "borrow" a neighbor's (weak) wireless connection to get the clock working. My primary location for the Touch does NOT currently have an internet connection. I simply wanted to: Play ripped CDs (and some 24/88.2 downloads) from a small portable USB disk; Have a nice small control display; and Connect to my existing audio system. -- R Johnson R Johnson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36462 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Last few seconds of song being cut off...
Is this using the built in server on the Touch or connected to the software? Someone had an identical issue (last 10-15 seconds cut off) with WMA files a while back and it was related to his file transcoding settings (whatever he was running the software on didn't have WMA support codecs installed and the transcoding wasn't working properly). -- Siduhe Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)? "-Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs up. Feedback included: yeah, it's good... got the odd dodgy track tho...-" (c) 'ModelCitizen' (http://www.last.fm/user/Modelcitizen) Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77809 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
Dave (Northumberland);539431 Wrote: > When I said off I meant standby, it wont go onto standby even! I have no > home network to speak of and I really dont need or want one. It does go > into stanby when I plug my single Ethernet cable (from modem) into the > back of it but this needs to be plugged into my PC. I have no need or > want to use the Touch on a network, I just want to use it as a stand > alone player with a HDD. Without being able to put it into standby the > HDD stays on and I have to then turn the HDD by hand, and then have the > trouble of getting it all up and runing again when I turn the HDD back > on again. I dont mind having the Touch on standby but the HDD gets very > hot in constant use and the fan in it hums too much at night. > > Also, the power button on the screen menu and the the remote both do > nothing at all. So the real issue is to be able to spin down the disk. Thats actually a different issue. There are a couple possible ways to do that from a linux device (the Touch runs linux), I will try and remember to try those out this weekend. If I can find one that works I'll throw together a quick and dirty applet you can try. It won't work from the power button, you will have to click either the spin-up or spin-down button in its own page. The advantage of this is that it doesn't actually disconnect the drive, its still connected to the USB bus so the server is still up and running, but the drive itself is not spinning. The big advantage is that it will wake up in a few seconds and be ready to play, rather than having to start up the server and do a rescan of the disk. This may not work, there are reports that some USB disks do not respond to the spin-down command. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Very impressed! question though re: headphones
All outputs are active at the same time. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77828 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should volume control only affect the analog outputs?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 Question: Should volume control only affect the analog outputs? - Yes, I don't/wouldn't use the digital outputs anyway - Yes, I want to use the digital outputs and want them locked at 100% - Yes (some other reason) - No, I want variable output for the digital outputs - No (some other reason) peterw;539491 Wrote: > It has been suggested that perhaps 'the digital output should always be > fixed at 100%' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14807#c10) > (I assume *with* the option to use ReplayGain). > > That raises the question -- would it be OK if the *digital* outputs > were always fixed at 100%, if the volume control only affected the > analog outputs? That is *ABSOLUTELY NOT* ok. It's not even a remotely viable option. Anyone using an external DAC loses digital volume control through the Squeezebox. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Last few seconds of song being cut off...
Phil Leigh;539392 Wrote: > when you say mpeg-4, do you mean AAC? Phil, Sorry for the delay... No they are Apple Lossless so it should work. Random but regular. Thanks Tony -- tony.s tony.s's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37752 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77809 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
In french (we say "zapper") it would have the exact same meaning -- flyingdoherty flyingdoherty's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should volume control only affect the analog outputs?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 Question: Should volume control only affect the analog outputs? - Yes, I don't/wouldn't use the digital outputs anyway - Yes, I want to use the digital outputs and want them locked at 100% - Yes (some other reason) - No, I want variable output for the digital outputs - No (some other reason) pippin;539531 Wrote: > > I'd support Peter's suggestion if I had anything in this, yet I don't > since I never use digital out or external volume control myself. > I do, however, like it since I did already get a few questions on this > and am on the verge to add an option (sic!) in iPeng to fix the volume > permanently for a Touch :) Which I hate for the reasons stated above :) Please do say more. There's a Denon owner who just contacted me about this. He couldn't use DenonSerial b/c DS only supports players where 100% fixed is an SBS option. He's using iPeng and has to switch to another iPhone app for amp volume control. I was thinking that the getexternalvolumeinfo mechanism might be able to indicate the availability of alternatives for 1) the 'mixer volume' command and 2) getting the current 0-100 volume. But it would probably be better to publish a patch for the Touch firmware to fix both outputs, ala SB3, and use player prefs to indicate that the patch is in effect. (Still better, of course, for Logitech to publish a fix.) -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Last few seconds of song being cut off...
This is happening to me too! It doesn't happen with every track, but it happens often. Most of my music is in AAC. -- MadCityGeoff MadCityGeoff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17429 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77809 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] image viewer access to network disk?
mherger;536438 Wrote: > > The Touch doesn't seem to have the drivers to connect to a windows > > share, but it CAN view pictures from flickr or facebook. So you can > put > > your pictures on flickr and the Touch can display them. > > If you have a web server then you can create your own "playlists" too. > Just make it return a list of urls to those files. See eg. > http://www.herger.net/sbimages/sbtouch.lst > > -- > > Michael I would like to try this. Where would you put the playlist? Is only Flickr or Facebook supported. Can you put it on your web server? How would you point SB Touch to the playlist? Thanks ASenna04 -- ASenna04 ASenna04's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2696 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77466 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Very impressed! question though re: headphones
It didn't take long for me to buckle and buy the touch, have to say I'm very impressed and pleased with it...few reasons.. - Look and feel: looks great in the living room, quality build and enjoy seeing the track details when playing - Sound: I don't have a hifi set-up yet, I previously plugged my duet into my harman kardon soundsticks and thats what is plugged into the touch, there is a definate improvement in sound, I can't describe exactly how but I played a song on the Duet and switched to the Touch and it sounded better. - Remote: I really like the remote, much better buttons and love the way the Touch font size increases when you use the remote - Touch screen: very responsive and quality looking One question though, this could be user error...I plugged in my headphones last night to listen to some music that way, however the music was still playing through the powered speakers, does this not override the analog out so that music only comes through the headphones? -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77828 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Volume readout in dB?
erland;534495 Wrote: > Could you try: > 1. Setup my testing repository in Squeezebox Server Settings/Plugins: > > Code: > > > http://erlandplugins.googlecode.com/svn/repository/trunk/testing.xml > > > > 2. Install the "Patch Installer" applet through the > Settings/Advanced/Applet Installer menu on the Touch (You will need > to uncheck the "Recommended Applets Only" option to make it visible) > 3. Install the "dB Volume" patch through the Settings/Advanced/Patch > Installer menu on the Touch (You will need to uncheck the > "Recommended Patches Only" option to make it visible) Touch arrived and playing I stop at 1. Please spoon-feed me, erland. -- Valentino Valentino's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77161 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
So John S, when can we expect your DAC and crystal oscillator "oven mod" for the Touch? :D -- konut konut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1596 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is there any way to adjust the spectrum display?
I think I see whats happening. Its performing an FFT, which results in a linear frequency result. Most spectrum analyzers show log frequency not linear. The result is something that doesn't look right. Rather than convert to log frequency a mapping function is applied to the amplitudes to try and make it look more like what people are expecting. I think the best way to go is dump the amplitude mapping and really convert the linear frequency to log frequency. Its not that hard to do. You need to run the FFT with more frequency bands than you have on the display, and average the bands, with more bands averaged together on the top and fewer on the bottom. The code is already there to do it, but its doing a linear averaging (the same number of bands per output bar). If the number of output bars on the display is kept the same you will need to increase the number of frequency bands in the FFT. So I think the best compromise is to decrease the number of output bars (to say 8 or 10) and keep the number of bands about the same. This should give a much more accurate display without taking much more cpu cycles. Of course this is all in C so it has to get compiled into the firmware. It would probably be much faster to debug this in desktop squeezeplay where you can get much faster turn around time. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77783 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
Thanks for that John. Got it working. -- foxx foxx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36364 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
paalj;539524 Wrote: > Hi, > sorry, "zapping" means changing track Is this a common term somewhere? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Power
Is the Touch drawing power from a powered USB drive? I pulled the 'plug' on the Touch, but it was still on as it was drawing its power from the USB. -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77827 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should volume control only affect the analog outputs?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 Question: Should volume control only affect the analog outputs? - Yes, I don't/wouldn't use the digital outputs anyway - Yes, I want to use the digital outputs and want them locked at 100% - Yes (some other reason) - No, I want variable output for the digital outputs - No (some other reason) for some of my uses, I do want to control digital out volume with my iPENG or from SQUEEZEPLAY. So I vote NO. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should volume control only affect the analog outputs?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 Question: Should volume control only affect the analog outputs? - Yes, I don't/wouldn't use the digital outputs anyway - Yes, I want to use the digital outputs and want them locked at 100% - Yes (some other reason) - No, I want variable output for the digital outputs - No (some other reason) I understand your point about a preference but it probably got removed for the sole reason to keep the number of preferences down. >From my own experience: Preferences are a major drag: - You need code to store and manage the preference - In this case, the preference would have to be synced to MySB - You need code for a user interface - You have to test all this - Expect customer service requests because some people will not understand it or get it wrong or set something wrongly Compared to that and knowing the code a bit I'm quite sure the change to implement a "fixed volume" change in Squeezeplay (for both paths, that is) would be a single-line-of-code change. I'd support Peter's suggestion if I had anything in this, yet I don't since I never use digital out or external volume control myself. I do, however, like it since I did already get a few questions on this and am on the verge to add an option (sic!) in iPeng to fix the volume permanently for a Touch :) Which I hate for the reasons stated above :) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch paired with a PS Audio Digital Link III
i've compared the Duet+DLIII to a Transporter, and the Transporter was superior, in my opinion. more musical, greater depth/space, just sounded more natural. plus, you save on a digital cable. -- netchord netchord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77804 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch: losseless wma support missing?
Thanks for the DBpoweramp tip. It's a great utility and currently running for 8 hours on the first batch. Some worry s about the ID tags.. the conversion of the WMA info is a bit strange. I will definitely buy this util after the evaluation periode. Nice tool, no hassle and no limits during the evaluation. Btw.. just had a listening session between my touch and a transporter ( on the same Tube amp).. it definitely is a match for that..maybe not 100% but 99% will do for me ;) -- seth_space seth_space's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77768 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Hi, sorry, "zapping" means changing track (FFWD) from a 24/48kHz flac to another 24/48kHz flac. All files other than 44.1 kHz is a problem. Paal -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Hi, sorry, "zapping" means changing track (FFWD) from a 24/48kHz flac to another 24/48kHz flac. All files other than 44.1 kHz is a problem. Paal -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Missing album artwork
There a few potential issues here. First of all, iTunes treats artwork in a proprietary way - i.e. it stores the artwork in a special folder which can't be accessed by the Squeezebox software (whether you are running the full software or the internal Touch server). The software should be able to read embedded artwork, but you need to specifically do this (embed the artwork) in iTunes or using another bit of software - and then rescan your files. What most people do (and this works well with the server software and using the internal touch server) is to add the artwork as a separate file in the same folder as the files - so I have: AlbumFolder/file.mp3, file2.mp3, file3.mp3 and folder.jpg for the artwork. That works well for the touch. Really big artwork (800x800 plus) does impact on performance and can cause the scanner to crash. There is a wiki page on album artwork which lists some tools which may help. -- Siduhe Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)? "-Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs up. Feedback included: yeah, it's good... got the odd dodgy track tho...-" (c) 'ModelCitizen' (http://www.last.fm/user/Modelcitizen) Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77509 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should volume control only affect the analog outputs?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 Question: Should volume control only affect the analog outputs? - Yes, I don't/wouldn't use the digital outputs anyway - Yes, I want to use the digital outputs and want them locked at 100% - Yes (some other reason) - No, I want variable output for the digital outputs - No (some other reason) I voted No (other reason). While I do want my digital out fixed volume, I would want to have the OPTION as to whether it is fixed volume or not. Just like it is on the other non-SqueezeOS devices. I could see an added option to have Fixed Vol for Digital and Var Volume for analog or Fixed for both, or Var for both. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Altering the angle of the Touch
maggior;539475 Wrote: > > The bail bar in the back is removable making the Touch wall mountable. > I wonder if it would be possible to loosen the screws and wedge > something in there to acheive a different angle without shearing the > screws. It would depend on how radically you want to change the angle. > I'll have a look when I get home. A machinist could make a new bar with a different angle. Course the cost of doing that over the cost of a few rubber feet has me thinking the rubber feet win out. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77791 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Missing album artwork
gellie;536664 Wrote: > I seems to be missing a fair amount of album art work that i see that i > have on itunes. Any thoughts on how i can view them? thanks Same problem here. Playing files off a usb thumbrive (flash). -- davematthews davematthews's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37754 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77509 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Altering the angle of the Touch
Two large-ish rubber feet has been the job for me. -- Getgaff Getgaff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37766 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77791 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
R Johnson;539508 Wrote: > I too hoped/expected the Touch to be more of a stand-alone player. In my > experience it seems to need a fairly solid internet connection, > presumably to "call home". The connection is especially needed after a > loss of power, such as after being relocated. Unless accessing music > on/from a computer, there appears to be no need for squeeze software on > the computer. I guess I am use to the idea of expecting everything to be networked that I find it odd when someone expects a device like this to work without a network. Honestly though if all you wanted was a stand alone music player why not go for something like the Archos? http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5/index.html?country=us&lang=en It is designed to be a portable tablet but have some nice stands for desktop use. This type of device is more geared I think to how you want to use the Touch. That said if networking the Touch is possible for you then I strongly suggest you do, it will improve the devices usefulness to you. It will add internet radio streams, and add the ability to have more than one SB device use the same music store and even allow you to sync them. Course I have 4 SB devices so I love this feature. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
I too hoped/expected the Touch to be more of a stand-alone player. In my experience it seems to need a fairly solid internet connection, presumably to "call home". The connection is especially needed after a loss of power, such as after being relocated. Unless accessing music on/from a computer, there appears to be no need for squeeze software on the computer. -- R Johnson R Johnson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36462 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] But... It sounds soooo good
dmg;539424 Wrote: > I had never heard of them before now, but based on a quick search, they > seem very impressive. Unfortunately, they don't appear to suit my > needs. I have an older turntable (Rega) with legacy phono outputs (no > RCA). It looks like a Tripath only supports standard RCA inputs. The > signal from the turntable outputs is too weak for standard RCA inputs. > To digitize my LP collection using my Rega turntable, I need an amp > with a built-in pre-amp that supports legacy phono connections or get a > turntable pre-amp to use in combination with something like a Tripath. > > Thanks for the suggestion, however! You have made me think that a > Tripath would be great in another location to drive a home-made passive > subwoofer I use for my home theatre system. I currently drive the > subwoofer with a very unsatisfactory, bulky, cheap, and old receiver. Yes, you need a phono pre-amp. In addition to the signal level, phono ouptuts need appropriate equalization. -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77478 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
maggior;539501 Wrote: > True, but the same could be said for the analog VU meters on the > Classic. The Classic's VU screensaver seems to be much more > responsive. I find those very pleasant - the ones on the touch seem > jerky and not very responsive. > > I haven't tried the new onces being developed by Erland and his team of > graphic designers - maybe those will perform better. Well if you grab the VUs from jstraws post using Erlands patch installer you get a much nice looking VU that has the needle pivoting instead of the odd sliding it does in the stock VU. This detail makes it a little more pleasing. However for making it smoother it seems the VU needs more frames. If you see how jstraw had to make the graphics basically it is one image with a bunch "slides" of the VU at different needle positions, I think it needs more images with less change between needle positions. This though would require the VU meter code to be changed not just the graphic. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
ok, edited out my sacd comments it's safe to talk about DSD though! it's it's own thing! -- sckramer Sb touch -- PS Audio DL3 (Cullen level 3) -- PS Audio Trio C-100 (Cullen level 3) -- energy veritas 2.3i -- Martin Logan descent psaudio ac3 power cables -- psaudio duet -- cardas quadlink 5 interconnect -- Transparent digital cable -- audio quest slate spkr cables biwire sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch paired with a PS Audio Digital Link III
mollymoo;539333 Wrote: > Hi, > > I was curious, would this setup be comparable to a Transporter? > > Thanks in advance. I am going to step out on a limb here:) I recently had my SB3 hooked up to my preamp along with a PS DACIII. I was able to A/B the two using two seperate inputs on my preamp comparing the analog outs of the SB vs the PS DAC, and I sold the DAC. I honestly struggled to hear any difference. Now I own the touch and feel it may even sound better than the SB3 and/or PS DAC combo(based off audio memory of course). Again, YMMV. Good luckeither way, I love the Touch! -- bigbwb bigbwb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77804 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
toby10;539492 Wrote: > The LCD display of a VU meter and a spectrum analyzer is just for visual > eye candy. Just something fun to display. > They are not intended to be studio accurate measuring devices. Yeah, it would just be more fun than the boring track scrole (I dont bother with album artwork) and I am used to studio VUs so I guess I am spoiled. -- Dave (Northumberland) Dave (Northumberland)'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37753 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
toby10;539492 Wrote: > The LCD display of a VU meter and a spectrum analyzer is just for visual > eye candy. Just something fun to display. > They are not intended to be studio accurate measuring devices. True, but the same could be said for the analog VU meters on the Classic. The Classic's VU screensaver seems to be much more responsive. I find those very pleasant - the ones on the touch seem jerky and not very responsive. I haven't tried the new onces being developed by Erland and his team of graphic designers - maybe those will perform better. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Minor niggle..
No, it can't be disabled. If you don't like the level that it ends up at you can bump the brightness level up a little. That's about all you can do. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77801 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Altering the angle of the Touch
I placed the rear bar on top 2 foam furniture pads I got at walmart, each is about 3/8" thick and provides just enough angle adjustment to make it ledgible sitting on the couch. -- bigbwb bigbwb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77791 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Phil Leigh;539396 Wrote: > No - I specifically mentioned valve amps as the valves, HT caps (because > of the 450-600V) and o/p tranny laminations all do "settle down" from > new... > All of my guitar amps have done this. > > Low voltage transistor and IC gear does not have this issue. On the > other hand, Class-A tranny amps and valve amps need a period of warm-up > to let the quiescent current/temperature stabilise. I HAVE heard caps get worse during "burn in". Specifically VitaminQ paper in oil high voltage caps will sound pretty good when first installed, but after 10 hours of running music they sound abysmal, harsh, grungy, very yucky sound. After another 15 hours or so they start getting better and by about 30 hours are about where they started. Between 30 and 50 hours they improve some more and sound better than they did originally. Every VitaminQ I have ever used goes through this process. Other brands of paper in oil caps go through something similar but with a different time table. Some take only 5 hours to sound awful. Plastic film caps (polypropelyne, polystyrene, polyester) don't have this wild behavior. I have heard some improve somewhat over time, but not nearly like the paper in oil. Transformers also definitely burn in. Something about the magnetic properties of the core changing while the domains realign themselves constantly for the first several hours of use. How much and how long it takes is very dependent on the core material used. Nickel behaves very differently than steel in this regard, and cobalt yet again quite different. There is another completely different effect which is warm up. This happens every time the device is turned on. Most electronic components DO change there electrical properties with temperature. Even digital audio can be affected by this. I have looked into this extensively and found at least two methods by how temperature changes can effect digital audio. First is the resistance of the transistors inside the digital circuits. Cold FETS have a lower resistance than hot FETS. This causes the circuits to switch faster which means the switching currents induce greater voltage drops/bounce on the power traces inside chips and even in the ground planes on boards. This is not fiction, its actually quite easy so see. Unless extraordinary measures are taken this noise WILL affect clock circuits and even analog circuits. Its especially noticeable in some DAC chips. They sound much better as they warm up. I did an experiment where I took a cheap DVD player and glued a resistor to the top of the DAC chip and fed it DC current to warm up the chip. I also added a thermocouple to the chip to take its temperature. I could radically change the sound of that DVD player by warming up the DAC chip. It sounded much better as it got hot. Of course at some point it stopped working altogether, so it CAN be over done! This might be one of the reasons I like DAC chips that get fairly warm in operation. BTW some DAC chips are very sensitive to temperature and others not nearly as much. The other method is in oscillators themselves. Many crystal oscillators actually have lower jitter when they are warm. Crystal ovens are not JUST for stabilizing the frequency. In my own designs I like to use oscillators that get fairly warm, the jitter is lower than cool running ones. These effects are actually exhibited in the Touch, but since the temperature doesn't rise by a lot between cold and on for a long time the difference is not very great. I've seen DVD players that have powerful DSP chips that get VERY hot exhibit these effects to a large degree. I did not notice any burn in effects in the Touch, but I CAN hear warm up effects, but its not very much. I suppose I should try the "resistor on the DAC chip" test on the Touch and see what happens. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Disable WLAN on Squeezebox Touch
I out-commented Samba in /etc/init.d/rcS # Start Samba # if [ -x /etc/init.d/samba ]; then # /etc/init.d/samba start & # fi and wlan # Start wlan # /etc/init.d/wlan start -- MrRalph MrRalph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76291 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
sckramer wrote: > im not interested in pirating anything... whay are you telling me > this? Because of the DMCA, you can not even discuss ways to get around the CopyProtection that Sony designed into SACD. If we discuss it, we go to jail. Its a dumb law, but its been the law of the US for a decade. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
The LCD display of a VU meter and a spectrum analyzer is just for visual eye candy. Just something fun to display. They are not intended to be studio accurate measuring devices. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
I presume he means FFWD = zap? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Should volume control only affect the analog outputs?
For years, Squeezebox Classic allowed users to lock the volume at 100%. It used to be that locking the volume 'only affected the digital output' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9053) -- analog output remained variable. A while back a firmware update to SB Classic changed that behavior -- now locking the volume at 100% affects analog and digital. Fast forward to Squeezebox Touch. There is no fixed volume setting; the volume control always affects both analog and digital. This causes problems for some users, especially those who use digital output and play music through processors like DTS decoders that need bit-perfect output. It has been suggested that perhaps 'the digital output should always be fixed at 100%' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14807#c10) (I assume *with* the option to use ReplayGain). That raises the question -- would it be OK if the *digital* outputs were always fixed at 100%, if the volume control only affected the analog outputs? -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
im not interested in pirating anything... whay are you telling me this? DSD seems like an interesting format, so close to analog-- SACD is toast anyway-- if i did copy it the way i said, why not use the analog outs of the device ?!? again, it's interesting that you can hook a capacitor to the *digital* DSD stream and hear the music (and not garbage if you tried that on a PCM stream) -- sckramer Sb touch -- PS Audio DL3 (Cullen level 3) -- PS Audio Trio C-100 (Cullen level 3) -- energy veritas 2.3i -- Martin Logan descent psaudio ac3 power cables -- psaudio duet -- cardas quadlink 5 interconnect -- Transparent digital cable -- audio quest slate spkr cables biwire sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Altering the angle of the Touch
There is no adjustment if that is what you are asking. I used a piece if black weather stripping from Home Depot. Remove the backing tape to make it semi-permanent leave it on to go back and forth quickly. I also cut two pieces and removed the backing tape on both so I could stick them together to double the height to have two different levels. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77791 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Hello and Welcome to the Forum. What is "zapping through music"? If I were Zapping music my DAC would probably be having a problem also. Also how about some more details that might help answer your problem. What file type are you using? What is the specifics on the files that are problems, 24/48, 24/96, 16/44.1? -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any fix out there for missing album artwork?
garym;539002 Wrote: > Yep, you see it. So now right click on the art and select COPY. Then > within the same place (where the art already is), right click and > select PASTE. I know this sounds crazy (hey, why am I pasting art when > it is already there). But it is not really 'there'. It is in the ITUNES > database, but NOT embedded in the song file. Doing what I suggested > will embed it. Then wherever you use this file the art work will show > up (including squeezeboxserver) I figured out that copy-paste work around in iTunes for Windows when my album art was often missing from my iPod. I found the artwork on the net and copied it, selected all songs within the album (in iTunes via get info), and pasted the artwork into the thumbnail box for the songs. When I synced the songs to my iPod, that fixed the missing artwork for the iPod. I went through that process for every album I have (all ripped to ALAC via iTunes. And I manage the folders manually so I can easily copy and back up selected artists/albums.) After receiving the Touch, I copied a few of the music folders from my PC to a usb flash drive to see how the Touch works. Sadly, the artwork is missing from many of the songs when I play them through the Touch. I also noticed a problem where some songs stop playing with abut 30 seconds remaining, and the Touch just goes to the next song -- even with crossfade off. Someone else mentioned the same problem in one of the SBT forums. I'm not sure if it indicates a corrupted file or something else or if it's related to this issue or not. Other than that, everything else on the Touch works great. I was particularly surprised at how much I like the internet radio feature. Pandora, last.fm, etc. are really cool, and the sound quality is way better than I expected. -- davematthews davematthews's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37754 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77704 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Zapping? Tapping? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
Dave (Northumberland);539479 Wrote: > After the descriptions of SBS I don't have a 'problem' with installing > it. I still don't have a wireless or wired network to connect it to the > Touch and really don't want to use one anyway. I waited for the Touch to > use as a stand alone player that I could just turn on and play on its > own. It does this just about but its a pain sometimes. It seems to be > happier now after I plugged the Ethernet in to re-set the clock. > > Bit disappointed with the jerky VU meters, they don't seem to track the > music fast enough. I think after 6 months of updates there may be a few > more advanced options so I can set it up the way I want, there are no > advanced digi out options etc at the moment and alternative > fonts/backgrounds for menus. Well here is your main issue. Squeezeboxes are at the heart Network Media Players, the key point being "Network". While the Touch can operate without a network, that is not really the target usage. So you may run into little niggles do to using it outside its design. That said I believe a bug has been reported concerning the clock losing time, however the solution for that most likely will be to provide some form of "blinking 12:00" since like a VCR the Touch does not have the hardware to maintain time between power resets. The older squeezeboxes could not even maintain time without a network! They were sent time updates from the server. If they lost connection to the server they could no longer display the current time. The orignal SB design was a thin client, SqueezeOS on the newer devices is slowly evolving them to a thick client and in the case of the Touch a full server. Still growing pains on the Full Server part and that is rumored to be why the devices launch was delayed as much as it was to solve as many of those issues as possible. I am sure they are working hard to polish out those other little niggles. However if I were you I would look into trying to get a wifi network active just so the Touch can access mysqueezecenter. That would probably help solve some of your current issues without needing to setup full on SBS. As for the VU updates I have not tried them with the Touch running as the server so not sure how they look in that case. With them running attached to SBS the refresh I find to be pretty good, it could be smoother but I think that is more of an issue with the number of graduates it has the the refresh. Now it is possible that with the Touch acting as a server the devices refresh is slowed down and makes it jumpier. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
The requirement for a server running squeeze server is also wrong. This review is horrible. If I were logitech, I'd contact the reviewer right away to straighten out the facts! -- FredFredrickson FredFredrickson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16584 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Minor niggle..
Gazjam;539327 Wrote: > I notice the screen brightness dims a bit after ten seconds or so? > Any way to switch this off? > > Thanks Its there on purpose to increase the longevity of the backlight LEDs. They last longer if not driven to max all the time. Sure it can be disabled, but it takes some hacking of the code. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77801 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
m1abrams;539470 Wrote: > Squeezeserver is NOT audio software, it is server software. You will not > have any issue with installing Squeezeserver and your audio software. After the descriptions of SBS I dont have a 'problem' with installing it. I still dont have a wireless or wired network to connect it to the Touch and really dont want to use one anyway. I waited for the Touch to use as a stand alone player that I could just turn on and play on its own. It does this just about but its a pain sometimes. It seems to be happier now after I plugged the Ethernet in to re-set the clock. Bit disaponted with the jerky VU meters, they dont seem to track the music fast enough. I think after 6 months of updates there may be a few more advanced options so I can set it up the way I want, there are no advanced digi out options etc at the moment and alternative fonts/backgrounds for menues. -- Dave (Northumberland) Dave (Northumberland)'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37753 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Fad hum on the headset out
I've noticed on many different devices that this could cause a hum: A modified sine wave source- which usually is from using a poor quality UPS. Make sure you're not plugged in through anything like that- if you're using a UPS, make sure it's "true sine" or "pure sine" wave. That can make a big difference. You may also get this effect if you plug into a DC to AC power inverter from a solar-powered system or your car. -- FredFredrickson FredFredrickson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16584 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77816 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Altering the angle of the Touch
marlo;539253 Wrote: > Lego. Marlo's kid is now wondering where the bumper from his Lego police car went :-). -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77791 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Altering the angle of the Touch
Fortunately it's angled far back so adjustment is typically to lean it further forward. It would be much more difficult to lean it back fruther and keep it stationary when you use it. I've read here of somebody using legos and blue-tack (I used to know that as fun-tack). It would have been nice to see it made adjustable, but it would have complicated the design and probably would have been more expensive. I like the fact that there is no wiggle room what-so-ever in the stand. That would have been hard to acheive with an adjustable stand. The bail bar in the back is removable making the Touch wall mountable. I wonder if it would be possible to loosen the screws and wedge something in there to acheive a different angle without shearing the screws. I'll have a look when I get home. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77791 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to view pics on touch
I have started using Image Viewer as my "Screensaver when off". Once my sister-in-law disparagingly commented on why I'd gotten such a dinky digital picture frame. So I walked over to the Touch and brought up SBS, asked her what music she liked, and grabbed the first artist she mentioned off of Napster in a few seconds. She's still confused. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77792 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
JJZolx;537786 Wrote: > It does act as a controller. Settings > Choose Player. then that qualifies the review as very poor - the whole premise of the criticism is that (non-existing) limitation -- kewe65 kewe65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
Balance is something that theoretically can be done, but its probably not trivial. My guess is that it will take modifying the C code that is implementing the volume control so its not even something that can be implemented as a patch. On top of that you need a GUI for specifying it. It should also probably be something accessable through the web UI and CLI mode. Then of course things like iPeng should probably include it. A lot of work but could be done. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
Dave (Northumberland);539454 Wrote: > Im not running Squeezeserver on my PC and dont really want to install it > on my PC. I have a lot of pro audio recording stuff on my PC and i find > that things like Squeezeserver can often mess with my PC audio > settings. I have just tried doing a factory re-set and plugging the > Ethenet in to re-set the clock. I will see if this fixes the problem > (for now). Squeezeserver is NOT audio software, it is server software. You will not have any issue with installing Squeezeserver and your audio software. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch keeps doing different things
Ok maybe his issue is related to others who have had issues with the "off" screensaver not activating. One thing that maybe an issue for you is that the default setting for the Touch in "off" mode is to display the Clock screensaver. Well the Touch does not have a real-time clock that can maintain time while unplugged or even through reset. So I wonder if the issue is that since the Touch is unable to set the time it fails to switch to the Clock screensaver. This is strictly me going through a logic exercise and could be completely WRONG. Have you tried changing the "off" screensaver to nothing? Also note: "off" in squeezebox world just means stop playing music and switch immediately to the "off" screensaver. Everything else is the same so you really have no power savings from "on" and music paused. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
