Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2012-02-19 Thread TheOctavist


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


300 bucks?.expensive?

shiee...

its a piece of piss in audio land. it is an amazing BUDGET
component.that performs as.good as anything if its kind at any price?


i like the screen. dont mind paying for it,.hell the touch imo is worth
far more thsn what it costs. id buy it at 500...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2012-02-19 Thread Mnyb


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


TheOctavist;691362 Wrote: 
 300 bucks?.expensive?
 
 shiee...
 
 its a piece of piss in audio land. it is an amazing BUDGET
 component.that performs as.good as anything if its kind at any price!
 
 
 i like the screen. dont mind paying for it,.hell the touch imo is worth
 far more thsn what it costs. id buy it at 500...

There is two misconceptions at work here .

1. Touch screen is expensive thus unecessary on a budget, it's cheap
and the fact that you set up networking and diagnose directly on the
device offset a lot of support cost. So even if the only time it is
used is the setup it is worthwhile after that you can have project
album art as screensaver which i mostly do as have an iPad .

2. BOM (bill of manufacturing ) and price are close related ,they are
not, they are at the lower limit, price is about perceived market value
, these thing cost about nothing to manufacture . Other cost as
development support and mysb.com and LMS and shipping keep stock in
warehouses etc etc is far more, all normal cost to keep a product line
in stock.
BOM goes dowm if you produce in great numbers thou, then you could
operate at lower price levels.

Remove functions and it people would not want to pay the 300$ sticker
price anymore .Now it is closer to 200$ in many places

If you want cheaper then one most sell on a greater scale like phones
and cheap dvd players this is a risk to get this scale economy. You
must really sell millions of them, then Touch could go for 50$ like a
DVD player found at wallmart or similar .

The great thing with Touch is that it does not feel compromised in any
respect it's good enough sound-quality for almost anyone , the
discerning audiophile can connect a dac of choice that's it .


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Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
Misc use: Radio (with battery)
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2012-02-18 Thread tmauceri


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I  use my iPad with iPeng. Once in awhile my iPhone with iPeng.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2012-02-18 Thread m4rk


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


Depends on which player I am using. Bedroom is exclusively touch screen;
its next to my head!! For my others it depends on how much whiskey I
have drunk and if I happen to be nearby rather than seated relaxing. I
like using the touch screen. Maybe I will change my mind when I get my
galaxy phone. The Mrs seems to use Touch screen exclusively rather than
the Harmony remote. I expect guests too will find it rather easier to
navigate rather than using an unfamiliar remote.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2012-02-16 Thread Ikabob


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I have never used the Touch screen because I do not want fingerprints.
My family members do not even know that a Touch screen is an option. We
only use IR remote or the one and only incomparable IPENG.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2012-02-16 Thread slate


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


It is good at telling time, other than that I do not use the touch
feature


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2012-02-16 Thread Michael Herger
 It is good at telling time, other than that I do not use the touch
 feature

My 2.5yr old toddler uses it all the time, because he can't read, but  
knows great things happen when he touches his favorite icons :-).

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2012-02-16 Thread bluestang


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


Mostly use my 7 Android tablet using Squeeze Comander app.  Ocassional
use Touch or remote control when not using the tablet.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2012-02-16 Thread guidof


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


Never. Have all TT3.0 mods enabled, except vollock. I use my iPad with
SqueezePad and iPeng.

Guido F.


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Azur 840C DAC-Adcom GFP-750 preamp-Music Reference RM-200 Mk II amp
- Martin Logan SL3s
DSpeaker Antimode 8033-REL T1 Sub
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-30 Thread Cut-Throat


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


toby10;606364 Wrote: 
 The Touch's on board full keyboard for searches is very handy indeed. 
 ;)

Full Keyboard - Yes - Full Size - No!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-30 Thread toby10


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


Cut-Throat;606709 Wrote: 
 Full Keyboard - Yes - Full Size - No!

uhyou expected the keyboard to be larger than the screen it resides
on?

You can always hook up a full size USB keyboard to the Touch if you
wish.  ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-30 Thread Cut-Throat


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


toby10;606790 Wrote: 
 uhyou expected the keyboard to be larger than the screen it resides
 on?
 
 You can always hook up a full size USB keyboard to the Touch if you
 wish.  ;)

I run Squeezebox Server on my laptop, which has a full size keyboard.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-29 Thread AndrueC


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I use it to configure the touch itself but now that I've got it the way
I want it I probably won't touch it again.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-29 Thread ModelCitizen


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I never use the Touch screen. In fact I only use the Touch as a clock.

MC


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-29 Thread toby10


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


The Touch's on board full keyboard for searches is very handy indeed. 
;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-28 Thread Cut-Throat


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I only use my small netbook and Squeezebox Server program. Easier with a
keyboard.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-28 Thread aubuti


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I would say I use the Touch screen somewhere around 20% of the time. I
take that to be somewhere between Occasionally and Half the time,
so I answered Occasionally. Most of the time I use a Controller, and
sometimes I use the web interface, and very occasionally Squeezeplay
running on a Nokia N800 tablet.

Assuming that a large share of the cost difference between a Radio and
a Touch is because of the touchscreen is just plain wrong. Those
touchscreens are dirt cheap because of production volume -- ever notice
how the Touch's screen is the same size as many smartphones and GPS
units? The audio guts in the two devices are completely different --
it's like comparing apples and pomegranates.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread trouty00

I was just wondering how many people actually use the touchscreen on
there touch? I have a couple and to be honest never actually touch the
screen as its always controlled from ipeng/squeezecommander/Web Gui/ IR
remote.

I was wondering If I am alone here or a number of us are paying for
probably an expensive touch screen we dont use. 

I just think that the unit is pretty expensive compared to the radio
which i think is a bargain device.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Soulkeeper


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


My Touch is currently sitting beside my computer keyboard, connected to
headphones, so I went for the last option. 

The flexibility of multiple controller interfaces (touch screen + IR
remote + SB Controller + Android phone SqueezeCommander + SBS web
interface + synchronize/choose player from another SB), is a large part
of the reason why I like the Touch.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread firedog


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


My listening position is next to my kit, so I use the touch screen
exclusively.

I find the Touch's screen is too small to be useful from most normal
listening distances anyway(10ft-3m); so if I couldn't sit close to the
Touch I'd probably use an iPod Touch/iPad as the interface.


-- 
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Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with
M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which
I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread chill


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


My Touch replaced an SB3 that was in my hifi cabinet. I placed it
outside the cabinet just to give the touchscreen a fair chance of
making itself useful, and in fact I find it very useful - it's the one
'interface' that is always in the same place and accessible.  If the
phone rings, I can quickly pause the music without having to locate an
IR remote, iPhone, laptop etc. I tend to agree that the visuals are a
bit small to be useful when I'm sat the other side of the room, but
then the iPad or laptop fill that need anyway.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread pippin


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I actually use it a lot. It's the only Squeezebox where I actually use
something else than iPeng for music selection.
But that's probably mainly due to the fact that it's my bathroom
Squeezebox and I usually don't want to play around with an iThingy in
the bathroom and I'm usually close enough to the Touch to not want to
use an IR remote.

I mainly play Pandora stations there or I join into music I listen on
other SBs, so the overall amount of music selection is limited but most
of the volume control, play/pause/power/skip stuff is done actually on
the Touch.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Ikabob


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I never use the touch screen. I use ipeng exclusively. I couldn't enjoy
the Squeeze functions without ipeng. No one in my household even knows
that the Touch has an active touch screen . I keep that a secret.  I
don't want to get it all smudged up. I love the Squeezes. 

I would like to get a protective shield for the screen but I cannot
find the exact size and cutting one is not precise for me.


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Multiple players: SqueezeBooms,SqueezeRadios; 
Services:Rhapsody; Sky.com; JazzRadio.com services;
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread maggior


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I used the touch screen exclusively until I got an iPod Touch and loaded
iPeng.  Like Soulkeeper, I had my touch set up next to my listening
chair hooked up to a headphone rig.  It turns out that the iPeng/SB3
setup by my listening chair works out better.  

My Touch is now in my family room where the SB3 used to be.  If I'm on
the couch, I'll use iPeng.  If I'm up, I'll use the touch's touch
interface.  

I find that the touch interface is a little awkward because of the
angle and the fact that I'm standing over it.  Ipeng isn't awkward at
all since it is in your hand.


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Rich
-
Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod
Touch.  SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and
SqueezeSlave.  
Current library stats: 33,696 songs, 2,720 albums, 499 artists.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread cjfreitag


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


In general I only use the touch screen to power on or off. Since I have
to be physically there to turn my receiver on (no IRBlaster), it's
easy. I might even select a Favorite to play. Anything more than that,
it's iPad/iPeng.

I don't even like powering off using the touch screen as it means
working back across several menus. I guess I should just leave the
remote next to it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Ocean56


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I'm always getting up to look AT the screen  see what's playingand
I use it exclusively to control it.  I have used the remote a little
bit.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread ralphpnj


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I use a combination of Touch screen, Touch remote and Moose. I like
Moose since it is by far the fastest way to locate any given item in my
very large music library. The Touch screen and remote are useful when
the Moose window on my computer is covered by something else, like
Firefox, as is the currently the case.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread pnharrison


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I do use the screen occasionally, but I agree it's less than I expected
when I first bought the Touch.
That said, if I didn't have the touch inteface, I would really miss it
for those times that I'm standing next to my receiver.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Blazer


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I use my Touch as an in house portable music device. I stream music to
it from my desktop PC via the Squeezebox server application. I may have
the Touch setting right beside that desktop PC using some Grado
headphones, or on the front/back porch. 

When I want to listen to my music in my 2 channel sound room, I keep
a pair of 15 foot interconnect cables connected to a pre-amp input. I
just use those cables and keep the Touch beside me at my listening
position.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread pnharrison


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


cjfreitag;605823 Wrote: 
 I don't even like powering off using the touch screen as it means
 working back across several menus. 

Have you tried a single swipe from left to right;  brings up Home with
the Power button at the top.  So you can power off with two movements.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread iPhone


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I have several Touch Squeezeboxes. For me it really depends which Touch
I am talking about. One Touch is mounted in the wall as a Controller
and source for the kitchen ceiling speakers. This Touch gets touched
often. When the Touch is in the SUV, it is the only interface as well
as at the Beach or Cabin. I often use a Touch as a Controller. The
other Touch units just get used when I happen to be up and next to them
as I have iPeng on both the better half's iPhone and mine. And as I
said, I often use a Touch to control other Squeezeboxes in the house as
they do make a great localized Controller also.

The display is getting a bunch of face time on most of the units so the
display might as well have the dual purpose as a touch input device, not
just a display IMO.

So what is the reasoning for the poll? Were you thinking from your use
that the Touch just really only needs an LCD screen for a display
without touch?

As for IR remotes, I couldn't tell you the last time I used an actual
Squeezebox remote. I used the Harmony 1000 about two weeks ago to start
a player in that room. I have more then 10 Squeezebox remotes in a
drawer that haven't been touched in well over a year.


-- 
iPhone

*iPhone*   
Media Room:
Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr
6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5
Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide
AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer   

Living Room:
Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A
Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1  

Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ ceiling speakers
Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM
Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio
Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini
Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Mnyb


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I use it occasionally at least daily .

But why do you think it's expensive ? the old vfd screens are expensive
,not this . I don't think it's such a big deal on it's price .

A normal LCD screen vs a touch screen ? how much would it differ ?

I consider it well worth having, even if you only ever use for the
setup and diagnostics and then for screensaver .

Imho a squeezebox should be possible to setup from itself or a nice
web-gui.

Not from a controller like the reciever (that's a brain f*rt imho)


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assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4
Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread trouty00


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


The reasoning I started this poll was to judge response and tbh see if
there is a market for a player without the expense of a touch screen, I
have no idea what they cost but im guessing significant based on the
cost difference between radio and touch and with the radio having a
built in good quality speaker. I bought it thinking I would use the
touchscreen all the time because it was cool but sitting on the sofa
with my tab is much cooler!

I also wanted to find out if I was on my own in this situation. I kind
of regret putting the 'occasionally' option in. I do use it
occasionally i guess myself but posted never as i only use it for
configuration once in a blue moon which would be very easy to do with
ir remote. If the people voting here are occasionally using it for
config and they could do these tasks with IR then we have a heavy lean
to people not using the touch screen. Now I dont for one minute expect
logitech to start producing a non-touch touch (i'm sure you understand
me...) becasue of the costs involved in rd and confusion in the
product set.

Its also good to understand the use-cases for when people solely use
the touch screen IE bathroom or car. I think its perfect for the
bathroom (weather permitting) coupled with ceiling speakers and also
for the kitchen although i do like the shortcut buttons on the radio
allowing me to choose a favourite quickly and easily.

I would certainly miss those shortcut buttons on the touch if i had it
in my kitchen although i know there is a gestures section in the beta
mode so maybe you could program your own gestures as shortcuts. ie just
swype a number.

and you will see from my sig that my bathroom is crying out for a
touch, but just got no way to mount it nicely!!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread trouty00


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


Mnyb;605856 Wrote: 
 I use it occasionally at least daily .
 
 But why do you think it's expensive ? the old vfd screens are expensive
 ,not this . I don't think it's such a big deal on it's price .

just think compared to SBR with the extras the radio has its pricey 

I'm not an audiophile so if there are other major internal dac
differences then its justified

Mnyb;605856 Wrote: 
 
 I consider it well worth having, even if you only ever use for the
 setup and diagnostics and then for screensaver .
initial setup easy enough on radio and would be easy with IR.
screensaver i agree with you but you dont need a touch screen for a
screensaver.

Mnyb;605856 Wrote: 
 Not from a controller like the reciever (that's a brain f*rt imho) 

agreed, setting up receiver with controller was a pain in the ar$e but
with IR would be easy.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Mnyb


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


It has much more powerfull cpu than radio and a very good dac and
digital out.

The 24bit 96kHz capacity is also nice :) not many streaming device from
anyone ? has this especially at this price ?
So sound vise it's well worth the money .

I think that's the more powerfull CPU is mostly for running it's local
squeezboxserver if you  attach a harddrive to it .

That must contribute some.

Radios price point is  low considering that it's probably the same
screen and a little more cpu than the controller and it is cheaper than
the controller.
But pricing is also tied to what kind of custommer you expect for a
product.
Radio is not the cheapest product in it's market niche so it can not be
more expensive than it is.

So it is radio that is cheap, it competes where there is many products
and people expect them to be cheap.

A Touch buyer is maybe not as price sensitive as Radio buyer.

And manufacturing cost are very cheap today (made in china), probably
not as significant for the end price as many believes it's peanuts
basically.
All other cost associated around developing marketing and selling and
distribute the product is probably a lot more than bom (bill of
manufacturing ) price from the factory when you order pallet loads off
them.

Setting a price is most down to guess how usefull the byer thinks it is
for that price.
If you have a product that customer find very usefull and good and
worth having you can charge more , again not much to do with parts
costs.

I seriusly wonder if it cost more or less than 10% off it's price to
manufacture it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Mark Miksis


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


Never.  And I never expected to.  I've always thought of the Touch as an
SB3 with a nice color screen and a useless touch feature.  As others
have said, it really depends where it's located and what it's connected
to.

Actually, the only time I use the touchscreen is to accept firmware
updates.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread guidof


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


My screen is _always_ off (per soundcheck's mods), except when I need to
do a factory reset to update SBServer.

I control my SBTouch from my iPad. It's big enough that one can
actually see things like album art!

Guido F.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread rayman1701


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- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I do occasionally, mine is set up right next to my listening spot and
sometimes it's just easier to use the touchscreen to scroll faster or
to type in a search.  I use the IR so that I don't have to do a lot of
reaching or twisting, since I don't have an iTouch/iPhone.  I did think
that I'd use the touchscreen a little more when I first got it, but for
most things I like the IR remote.  And since it's my first Squeeze
product, it has totally changed my music listening and I think it's the
best component I've purchased in a long, long time.  Makes mega CD
changers, seem as clunky changing Edison cylinders.


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