Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch - Synology NAS / Help needed
Re 2. make a copy of the image to each subfolder and clear and rescan everything . LMS supports embedded image if that does not exists it looks for an image in the same folder as the music files not the folder above as in the case with disc 1 2 Re 1. The music folder does not use the tag information it just uses the folders and files in the sort order they are in , it is specifically designed to not use tags ,for testing purpose or untagged librarys . You can use a tagging tool to rename the files to include track nr in front then they sort right . But this mode is slower than the others it is best to use tags so would not bother. Best solution is to separate the files so that you can point LMS to only the lossles files + files you only have in lossy formats, there are several ways to figure that out . Another solution is to use a function in the advanced file types menu called Disabled Audio File Extensions and disable the lossy formats from scanning , this only works if you actually have dual copies of everything and does not wan't any lossy files visible. 3. scanning takes time depending on size of collection and cpu and memory of the server NAS is usually slow if small energy efficient and quiet shows up somewhere . So make changes in batches and do a scan when your not listening when your at work or sleeps . This is less of problem later when the collection is in working order with the tags you want then you only add an albm now and then Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95479 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch - Synology NAS / Help needed
hello, i finally added SBT to my system. previously i was playing my music files on my laptop. my configuration is; SBT + Synology DS211j + DACMagic2 + CA Azur 640 + Wireworld Starlight Coax cable i have several questions both on SBT configuration and playing Hi-Res flac files. 1. first i have my archive in main folders such as albums for standart mp3 files, lossless albums for flac files, soundtracks, classical etc. i would like to reach them as seperate libraries as in JRiver. on my SBT under de albums i see them in one folder all mixed up. when i go thru music folders on SBT, i see them as i pointed under dedicated folder structure as i mentioned above but cannot play tracks in track number order, it just plays in alphabetical order. 2. another issue on album covers. i store all my album covers in the album folders named as front.jpg. problems occurs when there are more then one disc, i have subfolders such as disc 1, disc 2. covers cannot be displayed if there are subfolders in the main album folder. 3. scanning takes so much time, i don't want SBT rescan all the time. what is the best and quickest way rescanning the music archive for changes? 4. i can only get 44.1 while playing hi-res flac files. my DAC supports up to 96 but i always get 44.1, i have choosen my coax cable one of the preffered overe here, Wireworld Starlight, i don't it's the cable. what should i do to play the flac as they are. thanks in advance eLiasGR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56430 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95479 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
I got it today, and I have to say: this is an amazing device! Setting it up was a breeze. I connected it to my Home Theater system: a flagship Pioneer receiver and Axiom speakers. I connected it to my network through ethernet cable and it started to work right away. I was able to connect it to my NAS Apple Lossless music files via my old laptop and the Logitech Media Server installed on it. It worked great, great quality of music and no buffering or playback stops. Very happy with the setup! Thank you for all your help guys and for your suggestions. The setup is fine for now. I will certainly look in the future to add other devices in my setup, possibly a NAS (or other device you have suggested) with SB server built in, an external DAC and so on. -- thyname thyname's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52161 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
thyname;676509 Wrote: I looked it up. Looks good with outstanding users' reviews, especially from SB owners. However, it is too expensive for me. I am getting my SB Touch for a total of $209, it does not make sense to spend double or more of that on something to support my sB touch. Thanks anyway. I will keep it in my toys to be purchased list :-) How about buying an older used laptop for $50? Doesn't even need to have a WiFi card, just ethernet. Then load the VB software for free. Or just keep that laptop's OS like WinXP and run the full LMS server. Now you have an actual PC instead a limited NAS. Can't get any more budget than that. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
garym;676511 Wrote: Yep, the touch is by far the cheapest part of the music collecting and playing hobby for me. ;-) +the server and it's still a fraction of a % of what the music costed Don't forget to add the necessary backup drives to the total . Imo the players are only an extension of the server (the old players could for example not do anything without a server ). Also to use Touch as a server you need an external drive, put that money towards a server . One of the few ways to get a usable server cheaper than the Touch is surplus laptop or other leftover computer, but laptop keeps the energy consumption reasonable . it migth seem contradictory that we all say that any old clunker can run SBS/LMS server but the Touch or the simplest NAS boxes can't . A low end NAS or a Touch is a very very limited computer thats why. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
toby10;676591 Wrote: How about buying an older used laptop for $50? Doesn't even need to have a WiFi card, just ethernet. Then load the VB software for free. Or just keep that laptop's OS like WinXP and run the full LMS server. Now you have an actual PC instead a limited NAS. Most decent NAS'es have x86 proc. these days. There's a good change that these NAS'es have more proc power than an old retired laptop you buy for $50. Besides that, a NAS is a setup and forget kind of device. No OS patches or service packs to install every week or so. There is also power considerations. NAS'es are built to run 24/7 and have power tweaking settings. The old laptop will probably consume a lot more power. -- Pascal Hibon 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Boom, 1 x SB Radio and 1 x SB Touch - all wireless ReadyNAS NVX running SBS iPeng on iPod Touch. SqueezePad iPeng on iPad. Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
Have a look at Squeezeplug as well which allows you to run the server on a cheap (relatively) plug computer and use your nas for storage. -- W_J Transporter Naim Nait 5i2 PMC GB1i SB Touch SB3 / QNAP TS109II '*Last FM*' (http://www.last.fm/user/WJ1S) W_J's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
thyname;676509 Wrote: I looked it up. Looks good with outstanding users' reviews, especially from SB owners. However, it is too expensive for me. I am getting my SB Touch for a total of $209, it does not make sense to spend double or more of that on something to support my sB touch. If you don't like that server:Squeezebox cost ratio then the solution is simple: you need to get more Squeezeboxes! :-) Seriously though, the real beauty of the Squeezebox system (and similar systems such as Sonos) comes when start spreading them around the house/flat, so you have full access to your music collection, online services, etc in any room. SBs like to live in packs. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
aubuti;676635 Wrote: If you don't like that server:Squeezebox cost ratio then the solution is simple: you need to get more Squeezeboxes! :-) Seriously though, the real beauty of the Squeezebox system (and similar systems such as Sonos) comes when start spreading them around the house/flat, so you have full access to your music collection, online services, etc in any room. SBs like to live in packs. LOL!!! I already have a SB Radio for over two years now, and my SB Touch is scheduled to come tomorrow (Thursday). I actually worked on your earlier suggestion yesterday: I installed my SB server on my old laptop, opened iTunes on it, pointing it to my Apple Lossless file on my NAS. It worked and I was able to access my music on that machine's itunes. I then scanned/pointed SB Server software to NAS through Library tab/Media source, and did a rescan through advanced tab. I checked out my SB Radio and my music on NAS was all there. I played a few tracks off it with no problems. Logically, this setup should work on my new SB Touch when it arrives tomorrow. I will keep you updated. -- thyname thyname's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52161 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
souwalker;676361 Wrote: How about a Vortexbox Appliance? I looked it up. Looks good with outstanding users' reviews, especially from SB owners. However, it is too expensive for me. I am getting my SB Touch for a total of $209, it does not make sense to spend double or more of that on something to support my sB touch. Thanks anyway. I will keep it in my toys to be purchased list :-) -- thyname thyname's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52161 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
Yep, the touch is by far the cheapest part of the music collecting and playing hobby for me. ;-) -- garym Location 1: VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Office: Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
Aubuti and Pascal: Thanks for your replies, detailed instructions and your help. I will initially try to use the SB Touch via my old macbook pro with 120 gb hard disk as a server and my D-Link DNS-321 as a storage. I hope it will work. I will try this as soon as I get my SB Touch in the mail. Those ReadyNAS machines look great, but too expensive for me at this point. I will try the solution above first. Thanks again! I will keep you updated if interested. -- thyname thyname's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52161 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
How about a Vortexbox Appliance? -- souwalker souwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37673 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
I just ordered a new SB Touch. Very excited!! While I wait for it to come in the mail, I was wondering if anybody knows from experience whether it will work with my D-Link DNS-321 network attached storage (NAS)? I have around 5000 tracks in my NAS and my laptop in apple lossless ripped from my CDs, and would be great if I was able to stream them from my NAS to my new SB touch without turning on my laptop. Can the squeezebox server be installed there? I appreciate the help!! -- thyname thyname's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52161 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
youll need to install Logitech media sever on your nas. not sure if its easy on your particular nas. just google your model of nas + logitech media server or squeezebox server. or take a look at the squeezebox wiki, there should be a list there -- Hajaz Hajaz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
Welcome. The forums' search feature is your friend. Search on DNS-321 and you'll turn up a few hits. This one in particular is not encouraging: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73531 , especially taking into account that raven22 is one of the more knowledgeable users around here when it comes to getting LMS running on D-Link NASs. In addition, transcoding of Apple lossless doesn't work on the Touch, so it has to be transcoded on the server. That would put additional strain on the DNS-321 that it probably can't handle. In my opinion you would be better off using an inexpensive, low-power pc as a music server. You can run it headless, like a NAS. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
aubuti;676087 Wrote: Welcome. The forums' search feature is your friend. Search on DNS-321 and you'll turn up a few hits. This one in particular is not encouraging: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73531 , especially taking into account that raven22 is one of the more knowledgeable users around here when it comes to getting LMS running on D-Link NASs. In addition, transcoding of Apple lossless doesn't work on the Touch, so it has to be transcoded on the server. That would put additional strain on the DNS-321 that it probably can't handle. In my opinion you would be better off using an inexpensive, low-power pc as a music server. You can run it headless, like a NAS. Thanks for the reply. I thought about using my old machine that is sitting around doing nothing. The problem is it has a total capacity of 120 GB while my music in apple lossless format in my NAS occupies around 300 gb. -- thyname thyname's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52161 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
Not a problem. You can run LMS on the old machine that is sitting around, and keep your music library on the NAS. LMS has no problem accessing a music library on a network drive. That's exactly what my first Squeezebox server set up looked like 6 years ago. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
aubuti;676100 Wrote: Not a problem. You can run LMS on the old machine that is sitting around, and keep your music library on the NAS. LMS has no problem accessing a music library on a network drive. That's exactly what my first Squeezebox server set up looked like 6 years ago. I assume the old machine has to be connected to my wi-fi network, right? That was your setup 6 years ago? What is NOW like? -- thyname thyname's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52161 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
Yes, the old machine has to be connected to the network. It can be wifi or wired (ethernet). My evolution of SB servers has been: 1) old surplus Dell running the server, accessing music library on a LinkStation HG NAS. That lasted about 1-2 months before I got brave enough for... 2) running the server directly on the LinkStation HG NAS (hacked via instructions on this forum and on www.nas-central.org). That lasted a couple years until 3) a friend gave me a LinkStation Pro NAS, which I used for both server and music storage, hacking it using the same forums as before. 4) Then about three years ago I tired of all the hoops required to keep the server running on a NAS, especially because I was running a lot of beta versions of the server software while testing beta SB hardware. So I bought a headless nettop pc for running the server and holding the music library. It's a small computer with a low-energy Intel Atom CPU. It draws about 23w when running, and can go into suspend/hibernate when not streaming. In suspend it draws about 3w, and can be woken up and running LMS in less than 5 seconds. I installed 2GB RAM and a 500GB laptop hard drive (quiet, low energy) and the whole thing came to less than US$300 -- and that was 3 years ago. There are a lot of good small form factor PCs available for a reasonable price, but even if you have an old ugly beast, one of the beauties of the SB system is that you can shove the server out of sight in a closet or basement somewhere. See my sig for more details. -- aubuti Nothing high-end, but music anywhere I want it, and it's '100% wind powered' (http://www.cleancurrents.com/). 'MSI single-core Atom mini-desktop' (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032) (Debian Lenny 5.0.6) feeding: Living room: SB Touch 'NAD C325 BEE' (http://nadelectronics.com/products/hifi-amplifiers/C-325BEE-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier?products/hifi-amplifiers/C325BEE-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier) 'Vandersteen 1' (http://www.vandersteen.com/pages/1clit.html); Kitchen/Dining: 'SB2' (http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20050428023747/http://www.slimdevices.com/) 'AudioSource Amp100' (http://www.amazon.com/AudioSource-AMP-100-2-Channel-Bridgeable-Amplifier/dp/B00026BQJ6) 2 pair of 'Polk RC60i' (http://www.polkaudio.com/customaudio/rci/index.php?s=rc60i); Basement: 'SB2' (http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20050428023747/http://www.slimdevices.com/) 'JVC JA-S44' (http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=204813) 'ESS Tempest LS8' (http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/205237-ess_tempest_ls_8_speakers/); Bedroom: Boom; Study: SB Radio; Backyard deck: 'SB Receiver' (http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080124175538/http://www.slimdevices.com/) 'AudioSource Amp100' (http://www.amazon.com/AudioSource-AMP-100-2-Channel-Bridgeable-Amplifier/dp/B00026BQJ6) 'Polk Atrium 45' (http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/atrium/index.php#atrium45); Kid's bedroom: 'SB3' (http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20051210015952/http://slimdevices.com/) 'Klipsch ProMedia 2.0' (http://www.klipsch.com.cn/na-en/products/promedia-ultra-2-0-overview/); Roaming controllers: iPod touch with iPeng, 3 'SB Duet' (http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080124175538/http://www.slimdevices.com/) Controllers, 'Nokia N800' (http://www.nokiausa.com/find-products/phones/nokia-n800-r6); Limbo:one more 'SBR' (http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080124175538/http://www.slimdevices.com/) http://www.last.fm/user/aubuti/ aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch and NAS
Or you could retire the D-Link NAS and get a decent NAS such as ReadyNAS. This way you only have one machine running (and maintaining) for LMS / music streaming. Have a look at the Ultra series. They are a bit more expensive than the average NAS devices but they are packed with great features. http://www.readynas.com/?cat=88. -- Pascal Hibon 2 x SB3, 1 x SB Boom and 1 x SB Radio - all wireless ReadyNAS NVX running SBS iPeng on iPod Touch. SqueezePad on iPad. Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox is the NAS
I would like to connect to the machine a portable hard disk and put there my music. I wonder if it would be possible to add songs from a computer of the local net without having to unplug de hard disk an add de songs manually. In other words, do you know if this machine admits Samba or FTP? -- cutandaweb cutandaweb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42114 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83958 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox is the NAS
It has samba -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) PLEASE FIX BUG 112 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83958 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox is the NAS
cutandaweb;595293 Wrote: I would like to connect to the machine a portable hard disk and put there my music. I wonder if it would be possible to add songs from a computer of the local net without having to unplug de hard disk an add de songs manually. In other words, do you know if this machine admits Samba or FTP? It runs Samba. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83958 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
