Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
He is unwilling to give but not ask. As long as we use your money, he need not move his finger.
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Lance - how is it you constantly ask for what you are unwilling to give? I find it ironic that the king of the 'one liners' would ask for such detail. jt
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:19:25 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Explicate 'another direction', please. Do be as detailed and definitive as you are able.
From: Judy Taylor
Lance it would behoove you to spend more time in scripture than you do trying to stay two steps ahead
of everyone else. I know enough scripture to know that you are off in another direction. jt
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:17:07 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Translation:I (Judy) AM WELL GROUNDED IN SCRIPTURE. I (Judy) disagree with your statement. Therefore, Your statement (Lance) is false. 'Those' (translation) DavidM, Izzie, Kevin, CPL also.
From: Judy Taylor
It's not the fact that you don't quote scripture per se. If your conclusions were scripturally based those who are
well grounded in scripture would recognize them. jt
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:13:08 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
FWIW my submissions, in part, are my own biblically grounded conclusions. Why not cite the scriptures upon which these conclusions are based? I read what interminable 'conversations' (?) extend from doing such. I've posted my little formula on this.(biblical interpretation) I actually believe it.('it' being my little formula concerning interpretation)
I'm attempting to engage Dave in a conversation as to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism, Dave) as drawn from TT. If I were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of the time over much of what is said herein.
From: Kevin Deegan
G & L, rooted and grounded in the word?
LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how long?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance" referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually write?
But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. So who decides? You or me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44 -0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true for
either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment) and
what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because a person can be honestly deceived so being
honest is not a litmus test either. jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm the difference.
JD
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Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
LOSTLance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Explicate 'another direction', please. Do be as detailed and definitive as you are able.
- Original Message -
From: Judy Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 06, 2005 05:10
Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Lance it would behoove you to spend more time in scripture than you do trying to stay two steps ahead
of everyone else. I know enough scripture to know that you are off in another direction. jt
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:17:07 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Translation:I (Judy) AM WELL GROUNDED IN SCRIPTURE. I (Judy) disagree with your statement. Therefore, Your statement (Lance) is false. 'Those' (translation) DavidM, Izzie, Kevin, CPL also.
From: Judy Taylor
It's not the fact that you don't quote scripture per se. If your conclusions were scripturally based those who are
well grounded in scripture would recognize them. jt
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:13:08 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
FWIW my submissions, in part, are my own biblically grounded conclusions. Why not cite the scriptures upon which these conclusions are based? I read what interminable 'conversations' (?) extend from doing such. I've posted my little formula on this.(biblical interpretation) I actually believe it.('it' being my little formula concerning interpretation)
I'm attempting to engage Dave in a conversation as to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism, Dave) as drawn from TT. If I were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of the time over much of what is said herein.
From: Kevin Deegan
G & L, rooted and grounded in the word?
LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how long?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance" referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually write?
But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. So who decides? You or me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44 -0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true for
either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment) and
what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because a person can be honestly deceived so being
honest is not a litmus test either. jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm the difference.
JD
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Since JD will not speak on his practice I can not see if his speech matches up. Everytime we get to the question of what he has done, we get NADA Remember when he was preaching about the importance of Discipleship? I asked who he has discipled ANS: ___ Silence really is golden watch out for the rocks Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wrong premise always leads to wrong conclusion. jt On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:15:17 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The immedicate ocntext of my remarks was on this wise: you preach "silence is golden" but you talk and talk and talk and, somehow manage to say nothing of consequence. conclusion: you do not practice what you preach. Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:55:24 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz I do practice what I preach You do not as has been demonstrated by your LIP Service But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Are those addictions under control yet? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silence is golden. So practice what you preach, deegan and shut up. Jd __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
CMON don't be a mouse BE A MAN
Are you claiming now that I teach such and you have now admitted that you have changed your claim that JUDY, DM & IZZY teach such?
The Bible says A double minded man is unstable in ALL his ways
But as a mouse you won't qualify.Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
TWO-You (metaphorically)
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 05, 2005 22:10
Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
ONE
LANCE chirps I've found a total lack of concern
Here is your opportunity to FLAP your gums.
In what way have you demonstrated your Concern Lance?
TWO
Who teaches that the incarnation is a book?
Backup your statement, for once in your life. Anyone can make accusations, what is your basis for such?
Lance you are on display for all to see. Be a man for once in your life and fess up.Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
FWIW my submissions, in part, are my own biblically grounded conclusions. Why not cite the scriptures upon which these conclusions are based? I read what interminable 'conversations' (?) extend from doing such. I've posted my little formula on this.(biblical interpretation) I actually believe it.('it' being my little formula concerning interpretation)
I'm attempting to engage Dave in a conversation as to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism, Dave) as drawn from TT. If I were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of the time over much of what is said herein.
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 05, 2005 07:52
Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
G & L, rooted and grounded in the word?
LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how long?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance" referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually write?
But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. So who decides? You or me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44 -0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true for
either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment) and
what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because a person can be honestly deceived so being
honest is not a litmus test either. jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm the difference.
JD
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Of course there are miracles today WOOF WOOF MOO MOOO HA HA HA HE HE HE Roll on the floor, filled with the spirit![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Judy and David M -- agree with Deegan on this one ??? What about, Izzy -- no miracles today ? You all "agree" -- so I guess I should know the answer to this question. Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:48:12 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Of late many Muslims within that 10/40 window have been receiving visions/dreams of Jesus. Someone must be casting incantations __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
All you need do is say: 'No, Lance, I won't do it!'
I can actually live with such a response whereas others cannot. As an aside,
review my posts over the last week or two. They are not 'one liners'.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 06, 2005 05:25
Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re:
[TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Lance - how is it you constantly ask for what you are
unwilling to give? I find it ironic that the king
of the 'one liners' would ask for such detail.
jt
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:19:25 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Explicate 'another direction', please. Do be as
detailed and definitive as you are able.
From: Judy Taylor
Lance it would behoove you to spend more time in
scripture than you do trying to stay two steps ahead
of everyone else. I know enough scripture
to know that you are off in another direction. jt
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:17:07 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Translation:I (Judy) AM WELL GROUNDED IN
SCRIPTURE. I (Judy) disagree with your statement. Therefore, Your
statement (Lance) is false. 'Those' (translation) DavidM, Izzie, Kevin,
CPL also.
From: Judy
Taylor
It's not the fact that you don't quote
scripture per se. If your conclusions were scripturally based those
who are
well grounded in scripture would recognize
them. jt
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:13:08 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
FWIW my submissions, in part, are my
own biblically grounded conclusions. Why not cite the scriptures
upon which these conclusions are based? I read what interminable
'conversations' (?) extend from doing such. I've posted my little
formula on this.(biblical interpretation) I actually believe
it.('it' being my little formula concerning
interpretation)
I'm attempting to engage Dave in a
conversation as to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism,
Dave) as drawn from TT. If I were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of
the time over much of what is said herein.
From: Kevin Deegan
G & L, rooted and grounded in
the word?
LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how
long?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or
"Lance" referenced belwow in my wording - not that
anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually
write?
But more than that aside - being rooted
and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these
brothers. So who decides? You or
me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let
live.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy
Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44
-0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk]
NIV Bible Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the
spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word
which is not true for
either Lance or Gary. Lance
claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the
enlightenment) and
what comes from Gary's computer is more
Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart
the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with
everything because a person can
be honestly deceived so being
honest is not a litmus test
either. jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
What does this have to do with anything? I
believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a f
Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Lance - how is it you constantly ask for what you are
unwilling to give? I find it ironic that the king
of the 'one liners' would ask for such detail.
jt
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:19:25 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Explicate 'another direction', please. Do be as
detailed and definitive as you are able.
From: Judy Taylor
Lance it would behoove you to spend more time in
scripture than you do trying to stay two steps ahead
of everyone else. I know enough scripture to
know that you are off in another direction. jt
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:17:07 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Translation:I (Judy) AM WELL GROUNDED IN
SCRIPTURE. I (Judy) disagree with your statement. Therefore, Your
statement (Lance) is false. 'Those' (translation) DavidM, Izzie, Kevin,
CPL also.
From: Judy
Taylor
It's not the fact that you don't quote
scripture per se. If your conclusions were scripturally based those who
are
well grounded in scripture would recognize
them. jt
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:13:08 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
FWIW my submissions, in part, are my own
biblically grounded conclusions. Why not cite the scriptures upon
which these conclusions are based? I read what interminable
'conversations' (?) extend from doing such. I've posted my little
formula on this.(biblical interpretation) I actually believe it.('it'
being my little formula concerning interpretation)
I'm attempting to engage Dave in a
conversation as to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism, Dave)
as drawn from TT. If I were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of the time
over much of what is said herein.
From: Kevin Deegan
G & L, rooted and grounded in the
word?
LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how
long?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or
"Lance" referenced belwow in my wording - not that
anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually
write?
But more than that aside - being rooted and
grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these
brothers. So who decides? You or
me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy
Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44
-0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV
Bible Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the
spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which
is not true for
either Lance or Gary. Lance claims
repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the
enlightenment) and
what comes from Gary's computer is more
Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart
the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with
everything because a person can be
honestly deceived so being
honest is not a litmus test either.
jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
What does this have to do with anything? I
believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few
honest people who claim to be prophets. And I
believe in testing the spirits to confirm
the difference.
JD
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Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Explicate 'another direction', please. Do be as
detailed and definitive as you are able.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 06, 2005 05:10
Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re:
[TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Lance it would behoove you to spend more time in
scripture than you do trying to stay two steps ahead
of everyone else. I know enough scripture to
know that you are off in another direction. jt
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:17:07 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Translation:I (Judy) AM WELL GROUNDED IN
SCRIPTURE. I (Judy) disagree with your statement. Therefore, Your statement
(Lance) is false. 'Those' (translation) DavidM, Izzie, Kevin, CPL
also.
From: Judy Taylor
It's not the fact that you don't quote scripture
per se. If your conclusions were scripturally based those who
are
well grounded in scripture would recognize
them. jt
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:13:08 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
FWIW my submissions, in part, are my own
biblically grounded conclusions. Why not cite the scriptures upon which
these conclusions are based? I read what interminable 'conversations'
(?) extend from doing such. I've posted my little formula on
this.(biblical interpretation) I actually believe it.('it' being my
little formula concerning interpretation)
I'm attempting to engage Dave in a
conversation as to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism, Dave) as
drawn from TT. If I were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of the time over
much of what is said herein.
From: Kevin Deegan
G & L, rooted and grounded in the
word?
LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how
long?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance"
referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one
rigth really cares about what I actually write?
But more than that aside - being rooted and
grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these
brothers. So who decides? You or
me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy
Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44
-0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV
Bible Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the
spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is
not true for
either Lance or Gary. Lance claims
repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the
enlightenment) and
what comes from Gary's computer is more
Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the
mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything
because a person can be honestly
deceived so being
honest is not a litmus test either.
jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
What does this have to do with anything? I
believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few
honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe
in testing the spirits to confirm the difference.
JD
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Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Lance it would behoove you to spend more time in
scripture than you do trying to stay two steps ahead
of everyone else. I know enough scripture to know
that you are off in another direction. jt
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:17:07 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Translation:I (Judy) AM WELL GROUNDED IN
SCRIPTURE. I (Judy) disagree with your statement. Therefore, Your statement
(Lance) is false. 'Those' (translation) DavidM, Izzie, Kevin, CPL
also.
From: Judy Taylor
It's not the fact that you don't quote scripture
per se. If your conclusions were scripturally based those who
are
well grounded in scripture would recognize
them. jt
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:13:08 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
FWIW my submissions, in part, are my own
biblically grounded conclusions. Why not cite the scriptures upon which
these conclusions are based? I read what interminable 'conversations' (?)
extend from doing such. I've posted my little formula on this.(biblical
interpretation) I actually believe it.('it' being my little formula
concerning interpretation)
I'm attempting to engage Dave in a
conversation as to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism, Dave) as
drawn from TT. If I were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of the time over
much of what is said herein.
From: Kevin Deegan
G & L, rooted and grounded in the
word?
LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how
long?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance"
referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one
rigth really cares about what I actually write?
But more than that aside - being rooted and
grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these
brothers. So who decides? You or
me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44
-0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV
Bible Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the spirits"
aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true
for
either Lance or Gary. Lance claims
repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the
enlightenment) and
what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan
than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth
speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because
a person can be honestly deceived so
being
honest is not a litmus test either.
jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
What does this have to do with anything? I believe
in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people
who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the
spirits to confirm the difference.
JD
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Wrong premise always leads to wrong conclusion. jt On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:15:17 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The immedicate ocntext of my remarks was on this wise: you preach "silence is golden" but you talk and talk and talk and, somehow manage to say nothing of consequence. conclusion: you do not practice what you preach. Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:55:24 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz I do practice what I preach You do not as has been demonstrated by your LIP Service But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Are those addictions under control yet? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silence is golden. So practice what you preach, deegan and shut up. Jd __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
TWO-You (metaphorically)
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 05, 2005 22:10
Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re:
[TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
ONE
LANCE chirps I've found a total lack of concern
Here is your opportunity to FLAP your gums.
In what way have you
demonstrated your Concern Lance?
TWO
Who teaches that the incarnation is a book?
Backup your statement, for once in your life. Anyone can make
accusations, what is your basis for such?
Lance you are on display for all to see. Be a man for
once in your life and fess up.Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
FWIW my submissions, in part, are my own
biblically grounded conclusions. Why not cite the scriptures upon which
these conclusions are based? I read what interminable 'conversations' (?)
extend from doing such. I've posted my little formula on this.(biblical
interpretation) I actually believe it.('it' being my little formula
concerning interpretation)
I'm attempting to engage Dave in a conversation
as to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism, Dave) as drawn from TT.
If I were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of the time over much of what is
said herein.
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 05, 2005 07:52
Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was:
Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
G & L, rooted and grounded in the word?
LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how
long?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance"
referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one rigth
really cares about what I actually write?
But more than that aside - being rooted and
grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these
brothers. So who decides? You or me?
Or maybe we just agree to live and let live.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44
-0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible
Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the spirits"
aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true
for
either Lance or Gary. Lance claims
repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment)
and
what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan
than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth
speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because
a person can be honestly deceived so
being
honest is not a litmus test either.
jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
What does this have to do with anything? I believe in
prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who
claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits
to confirm the difference.
JD
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Translation:I (Judy) AM WELL GROUNDED IN SCRIPTURE.
I (Judy) disagree with your statement. Therefore, Your statement (Lance) is
false. 'Those' (translation) DavidM, Izzie, Kevin, CPL
also.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 05, 2005 14:30
Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re:
[TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
It's not the fact that you don't quote scripture per
se. If your conclusions were scripturally based those who are
well grounded in scripture would recognize
them. jt
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:13:08 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
FWIW my submissions, in part, are my own
biblically grounded conclusions. Why not cite the scriptures upon which
these conclusions are based? I read what interminable 'conversations' (?)
extend from doing such. I've posted my little formula on this.(biblical
interpretation) I actually believe it.('it' being my little formula
concerning interpretation)
I'm attempting to engage Dave in a conversation
as to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism, Dave) as drawn from TT.
If I were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of the time over much of what is
said herein.
From: Kevin Deegan
G & L, rooted and grounded in the
word?
LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how
long?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance"
referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one rigth
really cares about what I actually write?
But more than that aside - being rooted and
grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these
brothers. So who decides? You or me?
Or maybe we just agree to live and let live.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44
-0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible
Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the spirits"
aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true
for
either Lance or Gary. Lance claims
repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment)
and
what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan
than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth
speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because
a person can be honestly deceived so
being
honest is not a litmus test either.
jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
What does this have to do with anything? I believe in
prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who
claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits
to confirm the difference.
JD
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So Judy and David M -- agree with Deegan on this one ??? What about, Izzy -- no miracles today ? You all "agree" -- so I guess I should know the answer to this question. Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:48:12 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Of late many Muslims within that 10/40 window have been receiving visions/dreams of Jesus. Someone must be casting incantations
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preach "silence is golden" There you go misqouting again (your fav S&M - short for Straw Man, getting tired of typing all this S&M stuff since I strained my right hand, lifting a finger, and now have to type everything with just my left hand) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The immedicate ocntext of my remarks was on this wise: you preach "silence is golden" but you talk and talk and talk and, somehow manage to say nothing of consequence. conclusion: you do not practice what you preach. Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:55:24 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz I do practice what I preach You do not as has been demonstrated by your LIP Service But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Are those addictions under control yet? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silence is golden. So practice what you preach, deegan and shut up. Jd __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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The immedicate ocntext of my remarks was on this wise: you preach "silence is golden" but you talk and talk and talk and, somehow manage to say nothing of consequence. conclusion: you do not practice what you preach. Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:55:24 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz I do practice what I preach You do not as has been demonstrated by your LIP Service But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Are those addictions under control yet? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silence is golden. So practice what you preach, deegan and shut up. Jd __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Zz -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:44:00 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz DON'T answer for any of your baseless accusations. Both of you continue to cower in the corner.Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Correctamundo, bishop! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 05, 2005 00:19 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz To my shame, I am much more inclined to go 2nd grade with you, Kevin. Lance and Gary simply do not spend much time returning insults -- and I am constantly having to hold myself back. If you really were concerned for their answers, they would give answer. But when their words will be twisted and used against them NO MATTER WHAT IS SAID -- well what is the point. You are here on TT just for the fight and nothing else. Virtually all of your posts are about the fight -- complete with insults and the most uncaring presentation of anyone on this forum. JD -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:32:05 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Are you asking Lance ALSO? He is a little backed up with questions he is avoiding. Get in Line![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does the "love of God" in your life say anything to this problem or is your thinking that the Government fulfills your responsiblity to those dying in the Congo? - or is that just more liberal nonsense? JD -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 09:54:13 -0500Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Lance, get it off your chest and please EXPLAIN to us exactly what you want US to do SPECIFICALLY about the CONGO! Shall we follow your example and just blame other entirely guiltless people for it so that we can feel how compassionate we are? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 4:21 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Myopia. Ask your husband about it. I've found a total lack of concern on TT, from DM to DH, for global issues. To make light of 4M deaths is simply beyond my comprehension. Wait, actually it's not as you've all made jokes at any reference to events outside of either your neighborhoods or some 'sodomite' convention with an accompanying 'hollerin'' contest. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 21:19 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz You don?t make me feel uncomfortable except for you, Lance. You?re really ?out there? my friend. And your concerns about the Congo?what are you and Canada doing about it? Did you have a complaint with someone other than your beloved United Nations? (It?s a crooked JOKE!!!) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:25 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz. You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia (estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan (70,000) Despite this, the international community has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25% when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level. In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not yet mobiliz
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Here are the facts JD Lance wrote:> > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe> > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed> > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie)David Judy & Izzy do you believe such? JD your even starting to sound like me. Ya know I think that there is deep down inside of JD just a little bit of me trying to break out. he really wants to be a preacher! REPEATED FROM: From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:04:10 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible QuizFurthermore, who teaches such? Do you make this stuff up in your sleep? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What in the world are you talking about, Kevin. Lance voiced an opinion about Miller and you are asking him "who teaches such? do you just make this stuff up in your sleep? You still talking about Lances opinion on Miller's claims are have you moved on -- once again - without telling us? Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:04:10 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Furthermore, who teaches such? Do you make this stuff up in your sleep?Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Backup your statement, for once in your life. Anyone can make accusations, what is your basis for such?Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of both.(Jesus & Scripture)- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz> Lance wrote:> > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe> > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed> > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie)>> I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name intothe mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. Don'tyou think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do?>> Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in the> following passage:>> John 10:34-36> (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are> gods?> (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the> scripture cannot be broken;> (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the> world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?>> Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates> respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he alsotaught> that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away.>> Matthew 5:17-18> (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I amnot> come to destroy, but to fulfil.> (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one> tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.>> Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey those> expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as legalists. >> Matthew 23:2-3> (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:> (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do;but> do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.>> So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those who> greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those who> think it would be evil legalism to do so?>> Peace be with you.> David Miller.>>> --> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org>> If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.--"Let your spee ch be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Your some example addictions and all.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, absolutely, my dear and if Deegan follows my advice, it will result in something wonderful in his life -- not to mention everyone elses. God In Peace JD -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:03:30 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz The "new" you? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 6:35 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Silence is golden. So practice what you preach, deegan and shut up. Jd Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out!
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Right In your eyes the Bible is the same as the thing you wrap a fish with.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like "book chapter and verse" because of my churched traditions. Our two friends perhaps are not the same tradition. But I certainly identify scripture in their context they often speak AS OF the oracles of God. There is a caution to the "b, c and v" thingy -- proof-texting. Might as well be reading out of the newspaper when scripture is used in that manner. Defense Team Representatiive Jd -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:02:06 -0500Subject: RE: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Kevin, you just have to take their word for it that their many opinions are Biblically-based--in spite of the fact that there is no rational evidence of such. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 5:53 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz G & L, rooted and grounded in the word? LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how long?__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Total Immersion!ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The "new" you? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 6:35 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Silence is golden. So practice what you preach, deegan and shut up. Jd Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out!
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So with most things they state. Izzy are you the one that teaches Jesus was Incarnated in a Book?ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kevin, you just have to take their word for it that their many opinions are Biblically-based--in spite of the fact that there is no rational evidence of such. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 5:53 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz G & L, rooted and grounded in the word? LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how long? Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out!
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I do practice what I preach You do not as has been demonstrated by your LIP Service But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Are those addictions under control yet? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silence is golden. So practice what you preach, deegan and shut up. Jd__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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What in the world are you talking about, Kevin. Lance voiced an opinion about Miller and you are asking him "who teaches such? do you just make this stuff up in your sleep? You still talking about Lances opinion on Miller's claims are have you moved on -- once again - without telling us? Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:04:10 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Furthermore, who teaches such? Do you make this stuff up in your sleep?Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Backup your statement, for once in your life. Anyone can make accusations, what is your basis for such?Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of both.(Jesus & Scripture)- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz> Lance wrote:> > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe> > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed> > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie)>> I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name intothe mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. Don'tyou think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do?>> Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in the> following passage:>> John 10:34-36> (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are> gods?> (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the> scripture cannot be broken;> (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the> world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?>> Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates> respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he alsotaught> that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away.>> Matthew 5:17-18> (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I amnot> come to destroy, but to fulfil.> (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one> tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.>> Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey those> expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as legalists. >> Matthew 23:2-3> (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:> (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do;but> do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.>> So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those who> greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those who> think it would be evil legalism to do so?>> Peace be with you.> David Miller.>>> --> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org>> If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.--"Let your spee ch be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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You missed my post on this. Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:00:31 -0700 (PDT)Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Just come out and admit it JD, you are DOING _ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Neither Lance nor JD has been one bit helpful today in suggesting concrete ways in which we can cure the ills of the Congo. I am sorely disappointed. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 7:28 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz I asked you before what you were DOING. You did not want to answer because it is not important. Right! What gets it DONE JD? Tell us how you do it. Is this not a REAL ISSUE? Then don't avoid it. Just come out and admit it, you are DOING _[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hidding behind tough words don't get it done, Deegan. Just another way of avoiding the real and important issues. JD -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:52:25 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August Why don't you go over there and do something about it? Talk is cheap!Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz. You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia (estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan (70,000) Despite this, the international community has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25% when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level. In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not yet mobilized the necessary will or resources to effectively address the crisis," according to the latest mortality study, a joint effort by the New York based International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet Institute. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Oh, good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and true names to call other people? If it isn?t ?Hitler? it?s ?McCarthy?. Get a new, but more creative insult please. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:47 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz So then Kevin, in Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans proof in the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well enough! I'd have though as much. Discover Yahoo!Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Furthermore, who teaches such? Do you make this stuff up in your sleep?Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Backup your statement, for once in your life. Anyone can make accusations, what is your basis for such?Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of both.(Jesus & Scripture)- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz> Lance wrote:> > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe> > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed> > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie)>> I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name intothe mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. Don'tyou think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do?>> Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in the> following passage:>> John 10:34-36> (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are> gods?> (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the> scripture cannot be broken;> (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the> world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?>> Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates> respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he alsotaught> that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away.>> Matthew 5:17-18> (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I amnot> come to destroy, but to fulfil.> (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one> tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.>> Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey those> expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as legalists.>> Matthew 23:2-3> (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:> (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do;but> do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.>> So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those who> greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those who> think it would be evil legalism to do so?>> Peace be with you.> David Miller.>>> --> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org>> If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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ONE
LANCE chirps I've found a total lack of concern
Here is your opportunity to FLAP your gums.
In what way have you demonstrated your Concern Lance?
TWO
Who teaches that the incarnation is a book?
Backup your statement, for once in your life. Anyone can make accusations, what is your basis for such?
Lance you are on display for all to see. Be a man for once in your life and fess up.Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
FWIW my submissions, in part, are my own biblically grounded conclusions. Why not cite the scriptures upon which these conclusions are based? I read what interminable 'conversations' (?) extend from doing such. I've posted my little formula on this.(biblical interpretation) I actually believe it.('it' being my little formula concerning interpretation)
I'm attempting to engage Dave in a conversation as to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism, Dave) as drawn from TT. If I were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of the time over much of what is said herein.
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 05, 2005 07:52
Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
G & L, rooted and grounded in the word?
LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how long?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance" referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually write?
But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. So who decides? You or me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44 -0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true for
either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment) and
what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because a person can be honestly deceived so being
honest is not a litmus test either. jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm the difference.
JD
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JD you must be under some stress. Your rambling in your posts lately.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They ( Then) why did Jesus blow it off by telling the disciples they would always have the poor . Well, this is perhaps the most upsetting of my discussions here on TT. I really have nothing more to say. We have virtually nothing in common. You will not believe me, but I am going to think about what has just happened, do some praying (part of it will be "intercessory" as we call it in the land of the Charismata) and return. John Smithson On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:54:58 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I believe, Judy, is that your response is one of the more bazaar comments entertained here on TT. In my book, David's " children sent to hell " comment is number 1; jt: What on earth are you talking about JD - Solomon? this is number 2, for the time being. You ask a question to which the answer would have absolutely no meaning to you -- so why ask? I mean, dead is dead -- right? jt: I have no idea what you are referring to or talking about - what was the question? We are not going to even entertain a benevolent emotion because they are better off dead anyway!!! jt: Your words not mine and again, I have no idea what you are talking about or referring to. That is not only nasty but gross and disgusting. Yeah !!! It most definitely is not the widom of God. On one hand we beat the banner for action in Iraq. I am one who, thus far, thinks intervention in Iraq is a good thing. But, for me, we should be there for the same reasons we should be in Durfar and the Congo and so on. The fact that we are not in the Congo or Durfar is evidence , to me, that humanitarian concerns had nothing to do with our going to Iraq. I believe that the people of that country benefitted from our hypocricy anyway. jt: It's good that you have opinions about all this JD. I don't since I am not in the position to know all details I leave that to the ppl God has placed in authority - the ones who make these kinds of decisions. A position that ignores the blight of the poor and hungry finds people without a divine awareness, per Is 58:9-11. jt: They why did Jesus blow it off by telling the disciples they would always have the poor among them? I guess he must have been void of divine awareness also. What is critical in the Is 58 passage is the fact that the disciple is pictured as one who is searching for God, but finding Him only when a number of realities are entertained in his life - not the lest of which is the outpouring for the hungre and and afflicted. Jd jt: No JD; it is dealing with the sin in their lives as a whole - it is not playing God to the whole globe. jt Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more.
Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Yes. Precisely why I said they were grounded in scripture. Those who do not recognize this truth are obviously not grounded in scripture - or could it be that we are really talking about how each understands the biblical message? I vote for the latter.
Jd -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:30:00 -0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
It's not the fact that you don't quote scripture per se. If your conclusions were scripturally based those who are
well grounded in scripture would recognize them. jt
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:13:08 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
FWIW my submissions, in part, are my own biblically grounded conclusions. Why not cite the scriptures upon which these conclusions are based? I read what interminable 'conversations' (?) extend from doing such. I've posted my little formula on this.(biblical interpretation) I actually believe it.('it' being my little formula concerning interpretation)
I'm attempting to engage Dave in a conversation as to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism, Dave) as drawn from TT. If I were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of the time over much of what is said herein.
From: Kevin Deegan
G & L, rooted and grounded in the word?
LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how long?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance" referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually write?
But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. So who decides? You or me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44 -0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true for
either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment) and
what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because a person can be honestly deceived so being
honest is not a litmus test either. jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm the difference.
JD
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Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
It's not the fact that you don't quote scripture per
se. If your conclusions were scripturally based those who are
well grounded in scripture would recognize them.
jt
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:13:08 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
FWIW my submissions, in part, are my own
biblically grounded conclusions. Why not cite the scriptures upon which these
conclusions are based? I read what interminable 'conversations' (?) extend
from doing such. I've posted my little formula on this.(biblical
interpretation) I actually believe it.('it' being my little formula concerning
interpretation)
I'm attempting to engage Dave in a conversation
as to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism, Dave) as drawn from TT. If
I were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of the time over much of what is said
herein.
From: Kevin Deegan
G & L, rooted and grounded in the
word?
LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how
long?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance"
referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one rigth
really cares about what I actually write?
But more than that aside - being rooted and
grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers.
So who decides? You or me? Or maybe we just agree
to live and let live.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44
-0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible
Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the spirits"
aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true
for
either Lance or Gary. Lance claims
repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment)
and
what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan
than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth
speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because
a person can be honestly deceived so being
honest is not a litmus test either.
jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
What does this have to do with anything? I believe in
prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who
claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits
to confirm the difference.
JD
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Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
DAVEH: I confess Lance there are occasions when a smile has been seen to crack my face while reading TT posts. :-) Perhaps my stupidity for equating evangelicalism with evangelism is one of those times.instead, I find myself embarrassed! :-[ Lance Muir wrote: I'm attempting to engage Dave in a conversation as to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism, Dave) as drawn from TT. If I were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of the time over much of what is said herein. -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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Oh, absolutely, my dear and if Deegan follows my advice, it will result in something wonderful in his life -- not to mention everyone elses. God In Peace JD -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:03:30 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz The "new" you? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 6:35 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Silence is golden. So practice what you preach, deegan and shut up. Jd
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I like "book chapter and verse" because of my churched traditions. Our two friends perhaps are not the same tradition. But I certainly identify scripture in their context they often speak AS OF the oracles of God. There is a caution to the "b, c and v" thingy -- proof-texting. Might as well be reading out of the newspaper when scripture is used in that manner. Defense Team Representatiive Jd -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:02:06 -0500Subject: RE: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Kevin, you just have to take their word for it that their many opinions are Biblically-based--in spite of the fact that there is no rational evidence of such. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 5:53 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz G & L, rooted and grounded in the word? LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how long?
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I shan't as it's not a genuine question, IMO. Only to say that an Iraqi woman in the company of her husband and baby were but one example of many who have testified to it.They were here the day before yesterday preparing to return to the Middle East today. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 05, 2005 09:00 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz No, please tell us about it. I was reading that the big Newsweek lie-scandal about supposed prison guards defacing Korans was actually in fact cases of Iraqis defacing the Koran and saying they hated it. Maybe that's why? Izzy Does anyone know of the millions who interceded re: what has been referred to as the 10/40 window? Of late many Muslims within that 10/40 window have been receiving visions/dreams of Jesus.
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http://www.atomicopera.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 7:18 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz By the way, one of the pieces performed by our church band this weekend was "Watergrave" by Atomic Opera. Definitely the most passionate, moving musical _expression_ about baptism that I have ever heard. It reminds you what it really takes to be a "new man". Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 7:03 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz The "new" you? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 6:35 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Silence is golden. So practice what you preach, deegan and shut up. Jd
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By the way, one of the pieces performed by our church band this weekend was "Watergrave" by Atomic Opera. Definitely the most passionate, moving musical _expression_ about baptism that I have ever heard. It reminds you what it really takes to be a "new man". Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 7:03 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz The "new" you? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 6:35 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Silence is golden. So practice what you preach, deegan and shut up. Jd
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4. And realize that nothing in 1-4 has been YOU changing a
thing.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance
MuirSent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 4:43 AMTo:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV
Bible Quiz
Suggestions:
1. Intercessory prayer
2. Tell others to pray
3. Be further informed so as to separate the false
information from the true.
4. Were any of you to watch 'Shake Hands With the
Devil', you would have heard Dallaire criticize the UN along with the former
Canadian Ambassador to the UN, Stephen Lewis. The UN ain't much that is good
but, neither is it nothing.
Does anyone know of the millions who interceded re:
what has been referred to as the 10/40 window? Of late many Muslims within that
10/40 window have been receiving visions/dreams of Jesus.
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 04, 2005 22:23
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV
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Neither Lance nor JD has been one bit helpful today in
suggesting concrete ways in which we can cure the ills of the Congo. I
am sorely disappointed. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
DeeganSent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 7:28 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject:
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I asked you before what you were DOING. You did not want to answer
because it is not important. Right!
What gets it DONE JD?
Tell us how you do it.
Is this not a REAL ISSUE? Then don't avoid it.
Just come out and admit it, you are DOING
_[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hidding behind tough words don't get it done, Deegan.
Just another way of avoiding the real and important issues.
JD -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent:
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These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million
fatalities since the crisis began in August
Why don't you go over there and do something about it?
Talk is cheap!Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in
print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to
one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.'
He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout
for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz.
You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does
anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in
the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are
accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add
daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis
began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC
conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and
in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia
(estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur
in Sudan (70,000)
Despite this, the international community has
failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During
2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities
had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency
for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25%
when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as
many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level.
In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not
yet mobilized the necessary will or resources to effectively address the
crisis," according to the latest mortality study, a joint effort by the
New York based International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet
Institute.
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27
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Oh, good
grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and
true names to call other people? If it isn?t ?Hitler? it?s
?McCarthy?. Get a new, but more creative insult please.
Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The "new" you? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 6:35 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Silence is golden. So practice what you preach, deegan and shut up. Jd
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Kevin, you just have to take their word for it that their many opinions are Biblically-based--in spite of the fact that there is no rational evidence of such. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 5:53 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz G & L, rooted and grounded in the word? LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how long?
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No, please tell us about it. I was reading that the big Newsweek lie-scandal about supposed prison guards defacing Korans was actually in fact cases of Iraqis defacing the Koran and saying they hated it. Maybe that's why? Izzy Does anyone know of the millions who interceded re: what has been referred to as the 10/40 window? Of late many Muslims within that 10/40 window have been receiving visions/dreams of Jesus.
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Silence is golden. So practice what you preach, deegan and shut up. Jd
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What does it mean to be rooted & grounded in the word? JD must have a diferent definition. A simple verbal profession of devotion? Maybe he means LIP service.ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They are definitely that! ROFL! Iz But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. JD Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out!
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Again more evidence of Baseless claims, since it would have been a simple feat to provide the examples of "rooted & grounded" posts by the dynamic duo. Avoid & dance. Notice JD dance & that with only one foot[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, I thought you were responding to my words, since you included them in your response -- call me crazy. Secondly, are you tryng to tell me that nothing written by Gary was (is) biblical -- all of it was rock and roll? Are you trying to convince me that the Bishop from the North only speaks of movies? That seems to be what you just said. There is no point in going on with this discussion if that is your "recollection." What is your claim against these two men, once again? NOTHING but rock and roll and the movies? Is that what you just said? JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:06:15 -0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Gary & Lance are referenced in my wording not yours because they are two of the three who are most critical of David Miller and his spiritual gift. I'd be interested in some examples of the rooting and grounding (in God's Word) that you perceive in the writings of both Lance and Gary JD. Lance is an expert in old movies and this is what he writes about. Gary is taken up with his own writings, those of Bob Dylan, and the word "myth" ... So how about giving me some examples of what I have missed. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:42:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance" referenced below in my wording - not that anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually write? But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. So who decides? You or me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live. JD From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD it is impossible to "try the spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true for either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment) and what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because a person can be honestly deceived so being honest is not a litmus test either. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm the difference. JD __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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FWIW my submissions, in part, are my own biblically
grounded conclusions. Why not cite the scriptures upon which these conclusions
are based? I read what interminable 'conversations' (?) extend from doing such.
I've posted my little formula on this.(biblical interpretation) I actually
believe it.('it' being my little formula concerning interpretation)
I'm attempting to engage Dave in a conversation as
to his 'take on evangelicalism (not evangelism, Dave) as drawn from TT. If I
were Dave, I'd be in stitches most of the time over much of what is said
herein.
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 05, 2005 07:52
Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re:
[TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
G & L, rooted and grounded in the word?
LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how
long?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance"
referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one rigth
really cares about what I actually write?
But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded
in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. So who
decides? You or me? Or maybe we just agree to live
and let live.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44
-0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible
Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the spirits" aside
from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true
for
either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly
that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment)
and
what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than
scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth
speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because
a person can be honestly deceived so being
honest is not a litmus test either.
jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
What does this have to do with anything? I believe in
prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim
to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to
confirm the difference.
JD
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G & L, rooted and grounded in the word? LOL, neither has posted even one scripture reference in how long?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance" referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually write? But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. So who decides? You or me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live. JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44 -0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz JD it is impossible to "try the spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true for either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment) and what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because a person can be honestly deceived so being honest is not a litmus test either. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm the difference. JD__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Suggestions:
1. Intercessory prayer
2. Tell others to pray
3. Be further informed so as to separate the false
information from the true.
4. Were any of you to watch 'Shake Hands With the
Devil', you would have heard Dallaire criticize the UN along with the former
Canadian Ambassador to the UN, Stephen Lewis. The UN ain't much that is good
but, neither is it nothing.
Does anyone know of the millions who interceded re:
what has been referred to as the 10/40 window? Of late many Muslims within that
10/40 window have been receiving visions/dreams of Jesus.
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 04, 2005 22:23
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV
Bible Quiz
Neither Lance nor JD has been one bit helpful today in
suggesting concrete ways in which we can cure the ills of the Congo. I
am sorely disappointed. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
DeeganSent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 7:28 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject:
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I asked you before what you were DOING. You did not want to answer
because it is not important. Right!
What gets it DONE JD?
Tell us how you do it.
Is this not a REAL ISSUE? Then don't avoid it.
Just come out and admit it, you are DOING
_[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hidding behind tough words don't get it done, Deegan.
Just another way of avoiding the real and important issues.
JD -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent:
Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:52:25 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk]
NIV Bible Quiz
These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million
fatalities since the crisis began in August
Why don't you go over there and do something about it?
Talk is cheap!Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in
print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to
one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.'
He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout
for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz.
You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does
anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in
the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are
accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add
daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis
began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC
conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and
in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia
(estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur
in Sudan (70,000)
Despite this, the international community has
failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During
2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities
had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency
for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25%
when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as
many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level.
In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not
yet mobilized the necessary will or resources to effectively address the
crisis," according to the latest mortality study, a joint effort by the
New York based International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet
Institute.
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk]
NIV Bible Quiz
Oh, good
grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and
true names to call other people? If it isn?t ?Hitler? it?s
?McCarthy?. Get a new, but more creative insult please.
Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:47
AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk]
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So then Kevin, in
Senator McCarthy like
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Correctamundo, bishop!
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 05, 2005 00:19
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To my shame, I am much more inclined to go 2nd grade with you,
Kevin. Lance and Gary simply do not spend much time returning
insults -- and I am constantly having to hold myself
back. If you really were concerned for their answers, they would
give answer. But when their words will be twisted and used against
them NO MATTER WHAT IS SAID -- well what is the point.
You are here on TT just for the fight and nothing else. Virtually
all of your posts are about the fight -- complete with insults and
the most uncaring presentation of anyone on this forum.
JD -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent:
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Are you asking Lance ALSO?
He is a little backed up with questions he is
avoiding.
Get in Line![EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
does the "love of God" in your life say anything to this problem or is
your thinking that the Government fulfills your responsiblity to those dying
in the Congo? - or is that just more liberal nonsense?
JD -Original Message-From:
ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 09:54:13
-0500Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Lance, get it off
your chest and please EXPLAIN to us
exactly what you want US to do SPECIFICALLY about the CONGO!
Shall we follow your example and just blame other
entirely guiltless people for it so that we can feel how compassionate we are?
Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lance
MuirSent: Saturday, June
04, 2005 4:21 AMTo:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV
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Myopia. Ask your husband about
it. I've found a total lack of concern on TT, from DM to DH, for global
issues. To make light of 4M deaths is simply beyond my comprehension. Wait,
actually it's not as you've all made jokes at any reference to events
outside of either your neighborhoods or some 'sodomite' convention with an
accompanying 'hollerin'' contest.
- Original Message -
From: ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June
03, 2005 21:19
Subject: RE:
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You don?t make me
feel uncomfortable except for you, Lance. You?re really ?out there?
my friend. And your concerns about the Congo?what are you and Canada doing about it? Did you
have a complaint with someone other than your beloved United Nations?
(It?s a crooked JOKE!!!) Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:25
PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk]
NIV Bible Quiz
It's truly uncomfortable is it
not? When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do
be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great
'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland
security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand
thingy, Iz.
You want serious? I'll give
you serious! Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people
die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of
these deaths are accounted for by children under five years of age.
These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities
since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004.
This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of
World War II and in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises,
including Bosnia (estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo
(12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan
(70,000)
Despite this, the
international community has failed to take the necessary action to
alleviate the crisis. During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the
United Nations for its activities had been raised by August, while
contributions by the United Sates Agency for International Assistance to
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I agree Kevin that preaching and teaching the gospel of
the Kingdom is the answer but I don't think this is the
kind of help Lance refers to since this is not
primarily the ministry of the US Government. jt
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Go into all the world and.Judy Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Let me get this straight - IYO it is the duty of
America as a nation to go in and try to heal the epidemic of violence and Aids in the Congo with what?? Just how
does the gospel of the Kingdom cover a situation such as this? jt
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:09:29 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Why? It is the gospel of the kingdom, that's
why.
From: Judy
Taylor
Lance why are you so busy judging
nations? The Lord is the one who will take care of that in His
time. We are supposed to be examining
ourselves to see if WE are in the faith so that we will be on the right
side when He returns.
jt
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:18:23 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
If this was a source of oil Kevin, your
country WOULD BE THERE! Terry sees this.
From: Kevin Deegan
These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8
million fatalities since the crisis began in August
Why don't you go over there and do something about it?
Talk is cheap!Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
It's truly uncomfortable is it not?
When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck!
Do be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the
great 'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like
homeland security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head
in the sand thingy, Iz.
You want serious? I'll give you
serious! Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand
people die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and
nearly half of these deaths are accounted for by children under
five years of age. These deaths add daily to the cumulative
total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August,
1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC conflict
worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and in
terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia
(estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and
Darfur in Sudan (70,000)
Despite this, the international
community has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the
crisis. During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the
United Nations for its activities had been raised by August, while
contributions by the United Sates Agency for International
Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25% when
compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed
as many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming
level. In spite of these unambiguous facts, the
international community has not yet mobilized the necessary will
or resources to effectively address the crisis," according to the
latest mortality study, a joint effort by the New York based
International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet
Institute.
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 03, 2005
14:27
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re:
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Oh,
good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those
old tried and true names to call other people? If it isnt
Hitler its McCarthy. Get a new, but more creative
insult please. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance
MuirSent:
Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:37:43 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Judy Taylor wrote: I have no idea what is going on in the Congo Terry, and I suggest that you don't either. Not really. I've had enough going on here in my own home for the past two weeks to keep me more than busy. I'm sorry you think I am cold hearted and unloving but I still need the confirmation and witness of the Holy Spirit before begging God to do something when He knows the details much better than me .. Don't you think He is able to put it on the heart of some intercessor if that is what it would take? jt ===Let me ask a question, Judy. Do you pray about your problems at home, or has the Holy Spirit not led you to do that? Yes Terry, I pray and seek the Lord about what goes on in my home, my family, and my community. I have a friend there who is a missionary in Africa, Judy. His parents are in our home church. Let me suggest that I know what goes on there and since there is nothing else I can do, I pray about it. Let me also suggest that you do not want to know about the troubles of others, part of the reason being that you have your own problems to deal with. The Congo is one nation and Africa is a big landmass Terry; the church we attend has missionaries in several of these and some have been to our church to tell in person how they had to leave their home and belongings for reasons of safety. They had testimonies of grace; God was there for them even without my prayers as surprising as that may be. If you ever solve those problems at home, you might want to read about the good Samaritan. Jesus will point out plainly to you just who is your neighbor. Yeah! I've read it lots of times Terry and my neighbor is the guy who was robbed and thrown in a ditch down the street, not over on another continent. My mother in Australia is always lamenting the fact that I can't do much for her in her old age because I live here and when there are problems and she does not have access to a telephone I am at the mercy of those who are there in person. The Pharisees could not entertain the thought of God loving some some foriegner as much as He loved them. They weren't about to love some stranger as they loved themselves. I hope that is not the case with you, 'cause it was sin then and it is sin now. I hope you are not judging me Terry because that is every bit as much a sin. Jesus said to "judge with righteous judgment"I am sorry that I saw you as cold hearted and unloving too. It was a big disappointment.Terry
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To my shame, I am much more inclined to go 2nd grade with you, Kevin. Lance and Gary simply do not spend much time returning insults -- and I am constantly having to hold myself back. If you really were concerned for their answers, they would give answer. But when their words will be twisted and used against them NO MATTER WHAT IS SAID -- well what is the point. You are here on TT just for the fight and nothing else. Virtually all of your posts are about the fight -- complete with insults and the most uncaring presentation of anyone on this forum. JD -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:32:05 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Are you asking Lance ALSO? He is a little backed up with questions he is avoiding. Get in Line![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does the "love of God" in your life say anything to this problem or is your thinking that the Government fulfills your responsiblity to those dying in the Congo? - or is that just more liberal nonsense? JD -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 09:54:13 -0500Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Lance, get it off your chest and please EXPLAIN to us exactly what you want US to do SPECIFICALLY about the CONGO! Shall we follow your example and just blame other entirely guiltless people for it so that we can feel how compassionate we are? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 4:21 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Myopia. Ask your husband about it. I've found a total lack of concern on TT, from DM to DH, for global issues. To make light of 4M deaths is simply beyond my comprehension. Wait, actually it's not as you've all made jokes at any reference to events outside of either your neighborhoods or some 'sodomite' convention with an accompanying 'hollerin'' contest. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 21:19 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz You don?t make me feel uncomfortable except for you, Lance. You?re really ?out there? my friend. And your concerns about the Congo?what are you and Canada doing about it? Did you have a complaint with someone other than your beloved United Nations? (It?s a crooked JOKE!!!) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:25 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz. You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia (estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan (70,000) Despite this, the international community has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25% when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level. In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not yet mobilized the necessary will or resources to effectively address the crisis," according to the latest mortality study, a joint effort by the New York based International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet Institute. - Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Oh, good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and true names to call other people? If it isn?t ?Hitler? it?s ?McCarthy?. Get a new, but more creative insult please.
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Are you asking Lance ALSO? He is a little backed up with questions he is avoiding. Get in Line![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does the "love of God" in your life say anything to this problem or is your thinking that the Government fulfills your responsiblity to those dying in the Congo? - or is that just more liberal nonsense? JD -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 09:54:13 -0500Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Lance, get it off your chest and please EXPLAIN to us exactly what you want US to do SPECIFICALLY about the CONGO! Shall we follow your example and just blame other entirely guiltless people for it so that we can feel how compassionate we are? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 4:21 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Myopia. Ask your husband about it. I've found a total lack of concern on TT, from DM to DH, for global issues. To make light of 4M deaths is simply beyond my comprehension. Wait, actually it's not as you've all made jokes at any reference to events outside of either your neighborhoods or some 'sodomite' convention with an accompanying 'hollerin'' contest. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 21:19 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz You don?t make me feel uncomfortable except for you, Lance. You?re really ?out there? my friend. And your concerns about the Congo?what are you and Canada doing about it? Did you have a complaint with someone other than your beloved United Nations? (It?s a crooked JOKE!!!) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:25 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz. You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia (estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan (70,000) Despite this, the international community has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25% when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level. In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not yet mobilized the necessary will or resources to effectively address the crisis," according to the latest mortality study, a joint effort by the New York based International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet Institute. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Oh, good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and true names to call other people? If it isn?t ?Hitler? it?s ?McCarthy?. Get a new, but more creative insult please. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:47 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz So then Kevin, in Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans proof in the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well enough! I'd have though as much.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Translation: Lance is saying "There is no way I can support any of this" Dance Lance Dance Don't look now but maybe you have the GIFT of Prophecy. Lance said " I already know" Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is no false witness being 'borne' here, CPL. I've been reading Davidfor a long, long, long while. He has a way of parsing definite articles. Ialready know what David would say in response to my 'supportive arguments'.So then, as I bear up under your mutual monologues with the Mormons, you cantolerate my 'read' of David's very distinctive theological 'bent'.- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: June 04, 2005 11:41Subject: Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz> Because if you can not support your claims, they are likely false, and> bearing false witness...well...you know.>> >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> >To: > >Subject: Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz> >Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:38:36 -0400> >> >Why?> >- Original Message -> >From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >To: > >Sent: June 04, 2005 11:37> >Subject: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz> >> >> > >> > > Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a> > > misreadng, please provide some evidence of such and allow David to> >respond.> > >> > > Perry the Moderator> > >> > > >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> > > >To: > > > >Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz> > > >Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:08:12 -0400> > > >> > > >As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreadingof> > > >both.> > > >(Jesus & Scripture)> > > >> > > >> > > >- Original Message -> > > >From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > >To: > > > >Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09> > > >Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz> > > >> > > >> > > > > Lance wrote:> > > > > > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe> > > > > > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed> > > > > > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie)> > > > >> > > > > I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name> >into> > > >the> > > > > mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture.> >Don't> > > >you> > > > > think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do?> > > > >> > > > > Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus doesin> >the> > > > > following passage:> > > > >> > > > > John 10:34-36> > > > > (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said,Ye> >are> > > > > gods?> > > > > (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, andthe> > > > > scripture cannot be broken;> > > > > (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into> >the> > > > > world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?> > > > >> > > > > Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he> >illustrates> > > > > respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, healso> > > >taught> > > > > that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away.> > > > >> > > > > Matthew 5:17-18> > > > > (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:I> >am> > > >not> > > > > come to destroy, but to fulfil.> > > > > (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, onejot> >or> > > >one> > > > > tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.> > > > >> > > > > Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen andobey> > > >those> > > > > expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as> >legalists.> > > > >> > > > > Matthew 23:2-3> > > >
Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Because everyone sees your baseless accusations for what they are.Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why?- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: June 04, 2005 11:37Subject: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz>> Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a> misreadng, please provide some evidence of such and allow David torespond.>> Perry the Moderator>> >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> >To: > >Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz> >Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:08:12 -0400> >> >As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of> >both.> >(Jesus & Scripture)> >> >> >- Original Message -> >From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >To: > >Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09> >Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz> >> >> > > Lance wrote:> > > > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe> > > > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed> > > > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie)> > >> > > I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my nameinto> >the> > > mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture.Don't> >you> > > think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do?> > >> > > Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does inthe> > > following passage:> > >> > > John 10:34-36> > > (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Yeare> > > gods?> > > (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the> > > scripture cannot be broken;> > > (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the> > > world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?> > >> > > Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates> > > respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he also> >taught> > > that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away.> > >> > > Matthew 5:17-18> > > (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: Iam> >not> > > come to destroy, but to fulfil.> > > (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or> >one> > > tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.> > >> > > Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey> >those> > > expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label aslegalists.> > >> > > Matthew 23:2-3> > > (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:> > > (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe anddo;> >but> > > do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.> > >> > > So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those> >who> > > greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it thosewho> > > think it would be evil legalism to do so?> > >> > > Peace be with you.> > > David Miller.> > >> > >> > > --> > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that youmay> >know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)> >http://www.InnGlory.org> > >> > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a> >friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.> >> >> >--> >"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may> >know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)> >http://www.InnGlory.org> >> >If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a> >friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.>>> --> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org>> If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more.
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Backup your statement, for once in your life. Anyone can make accusations, what is your basis for such?Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of both.(Jesus & Scripture)- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz> Lance wrote:> > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe> > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed> > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie)>> I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name intothe mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. Don'tyou think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do?>> Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in the> following passage:>> John 10:34-36> (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are> gods?> (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the> scripture cannot be broken;> (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the> world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?>> Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates> respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he alsotaught> that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away.>> Matthew 5:17-18> (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I amnot> come to destroy, but to fulfil.> (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one> tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.>> Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey those> expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as legalists.>> Matthew 23:2-3> (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:> (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do;but> do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.>> So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those who> greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those who> think it would be evil legalism to do so?>> Peace be with you.> David Miller.>>> --> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org>> If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more.
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I've found a total lack of concern Here is your opportunity to FLAP your gums. In what way have you demonstrated your Concern Lance?Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Myopia. Ask your husband about it. I've found a total lack of concern on TT, from DM to DH, for global issues. To make light of 4M deaths is simply beyond my comprehension. Wait, actually it's not as you've all made jokes at any reference to events outside of either your neighborhoods or some 'sodomite' convention with an accompanying 'hollerin'' contest. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 21:19 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz You dont make me feel uncomfortable except for you, Lance. Youre really out there my friend. And your concerns about the Congowhat are you and Canada doing about it? Did you have a complaint with someone other than your beloved United Nations? (Its a crooked JOKE!!!) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:25 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz. You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia (estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan (70,000) Despite this, the international community has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25% when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level. In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not yet mobilized the necessary will or resources to effectively address the crisis," according to the latest mortality study, a joint effort by the New York based International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet Institute. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Oh, good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and true names to call other people? If it isnt Hitler its McCarthy. Get a new, but more creative insult please. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:47 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz So then Kevin, in Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans proof in the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well enough! I'd have though as much.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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myth[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulative personal reasons or as does the author, below) On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do. Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out!
RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Neither Lance nor JD has been one bit helpful today in suggesting
concrete ways in which we can cure the ills of the Congo. I am sorely
disappointed. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
DeeganSent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 7:28 PMTo:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV
Bible Quiz
I asked you before what you were DOING. You did not want to answer because
it is not important. Right!
What gets it DONE JD?
Tell us how you do it.
Is this not a REAL ISSUE? Then don't avoid it.
Just come out and admit it, you are DOING
_[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hidding behind tough words don't get it done, Deegan.
Just another way of avoiding the real and important issues.
JD -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent:
Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:52:25 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk]
NIV Bible Quiz
These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million
fatalities since the crisis began in August
Why don't you go over there and do something about it?
Talk is cheap!Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in
print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to
one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.'
He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout
for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz.
You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does
anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in
the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are
accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add
daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis
began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC
conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and in
terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia (estimated
250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan
(70,000)
Despite this, the international community has
failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During
2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities
had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency
for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25%
when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as
many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level.
In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not yet
mobilized the necessary will or resources to effectively address the
crisis," according to the latest mortality study, a joint effort by the New
York based International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet
Institute.
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Oh, good
grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and
true names to call other people? If it isn?t ?Hitler? it?s
?McCarthy?. Get a new, but more creative insult please.
Izzy
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So then Kevin, in
Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans proof in
the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well enough! I'd have
though as
much.
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Judy Taylor wrote: I have no idea what is going on in the Congo Terry, and I suggest that you don't either. Not really. I've had enough going on here in my own home for the past two weeks to keep me more than busy. I'm sorry you think I am cold hearted and unloving but I still need the confirmation and witness of the Holy Spirit before begging God to do something when He knows the details much better than me .. Don't you think He is able to put it on the heart of some intercessor if that is what it would take? jt === Let me ask a question, Judy. Do you pray about your problems at home, or has the Holy Spirit not led you to do that? I have a friend there who is a missionary in Africa, Judy. His parents are in our home church. Let me suggest that I know what goes on there and since there is nothing else I can do, I pray about it. Let me also suggest that you do not want to know about the troubles of others, part of the reason being that you have your own problems to deal with. If you ever solve those problems at home, you might want to read about the good Samaritan. Jesus will point out plainly to you just who is your neighbor. The Pharisees could not entertain the thought of God loving some some foriegner as much as He loved them. They weren't about to love some stranger as they loved themselves. I hope that is not the case with you, 'cause it was sin then and it is sin now. I am sorry that I saw you as cold hearted and unloving too. It was a big disappointment. Terry
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MT 23 "for they say, and do not." TALK is Cheap. Tell us what you are DOING, not just what you are talking, JD & Lance.David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lance wrote:> I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe> that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed> to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie)I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name into the mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. Don't you think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do?Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in the following passage:John 10:34-36(34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?(35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;(36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he also taught that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away.Matthew 5:17-18(17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.(18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey those expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as legalists.Matthew 23:2-3(2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:(3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those who greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those who think it would be evil legalism to do so?Peace be with you.David Miller. --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I asked you before what you were DOING. You did not want to answer because it is not important. Right! What gets it DONE JD? Tell us how you do it. Is this not a REAL ISSUE? Then don't avoid it. Just come out and admit it, you are DOING _[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hidding behind tough words don't get it done, Deegan. Just another way of avoiding the real and important issues. JD -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:52:25 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August Why don't you go over there and do something about it? Talk is cheap!Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz. You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia (estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan (70,000) Despite this, the international community has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25% when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level. In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not yet mobilized the necessary will or resources to effectively address the crisis," according to the latest mortality study, a joint effort by the New York based International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet Institute. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Oh, good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and true names to call other people? If it isn?t ?Hitler? it?s ?McCarthy?. Get a new, but more creative insult please. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:47 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz So then Kevin, in Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans proof in the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well enough! I'd have though as much. Discover Yahoo!Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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One thousand people die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo So What are you doing about it? Hypocrit! MT 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If this was a source of oil Kevin, your country WOULD BE THERE! Terry sees this. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 16:52 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August Why don't you go over there and do something about it? Talk is cheap!Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz. You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia (estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan (70,000) Despite this, the international community has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25% when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level. In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not yet mobilized the necessary will or resources to effectively address the crisis," according to the latest mortality study, a joint effort by the New York based International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet Institute. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Oh, good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and true names to call other people? If it isnt Hitler its McCarthy. Get a new, but more creative insult please. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:47 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz So then Kevin, in Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans proof in the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well enough! I'd have though as much. Discover Yahoo!Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out!__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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So in the interest of Truth what accusations have I hurled without proof? Answer here See Lance dance Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What I said concerning JM still stands. I'd not expect you to do the necessary legwork to establish this so, why not return to the issue that precipitated the comparison? Most of the Bibles on the globe are neither KJV nor are they KJV derivatives. You do know this do you not? I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie) - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 16:36 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Senator McCarthy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism Recently declassified Soviet-era documents have, in fact, confirmed that Soviet spies had infiltrated the U.S. State Department in the 1930s and 1940s He was right all along! So in the interest of Truth what accusations have I hurled without proof? Answer here ___ Or is it you that is hurling? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So then Kevin, in Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans proof in the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well enough! I'd have though as much. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 13:41 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz When I find one with error I throw it back on the Trash heap where it came from. How much more REsearch do I need when I know about Judith? Some translations will require more research, but since I talk no foriegn Languages, I do not need to concern myself with such, EH?Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This then is your direct answer to my direct question? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 12:45 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Ask JudithLance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you happen to know for a certainty upon which mss all foreign translation are based? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 08:22 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz You asked me not to give a smart remark. I complied. I answered as best I could since I really did not understand your question State it more clearly & I will answer. I do not evade questions. The new bible problem exists in other languages also. There are plenty of translations based on the Textus Receptus in other languages that are the pure word of God for the people of that language. There are also corrupt bibles in those languages based on the corrupt greek text of the Jesuits Westcott & Hort Who worships pages, covers and indexing? Looks like you are the one that needs to lighten up, how absurd! Why is it that you inteligensia always have to mischaracterize? Why not deal with the issue unless it is you who is not able to. I guess this is the best you can do given the facts. Fact is the new bibles are hopelessly corrupted. Are far as lightening up, I will never as long as God gives me strength. I do not want to face His rebuke, for suffering FALSE Teachers! Rev 2:20 I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. WWJD What would JUDITH do?Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is both evasive and, a non-answer. I've done the same myself multitudinous times on TT so, I can't hold your feet to the fire. However, one can't fail to notice that both Christine and yourself have no real answer for this reality. Which reality? The reality that the majority (pun intended) of believers on the globe read from a bible which is not the counterpart to the KJV. May I ask those of you (Kevin, Christine and David) who worship the pages, covers and indexing to lighten up a bit and, let God be God. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 02, 2005 21:23 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz The Bibles that have out & out lies and ERRORS in them can not possibly be God's word. It may say Bible, it may look like a Bible, but a FALSE WITNESS utters lies! The Word of God is recorded in the Bible that we may know what is required of us and that we might DO IT! Tell me what you make of that observation. Well obviously those that do not speak ENGLISH would have a Bible that is based on the Recieved text. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is wise for one to remember that the Word of God is Jesus Christ. It is also wise to remember that His (G
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You are so confused. I can not decide whether you puroposefully misrepresent my beliefs or if you are just not able to comprehend them. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What I said concerning JM still stands. I'd not expect you to do the necessary legwork to establish this so, why not return to the issue that precipitated the comparison? Most of the Bibles on the globe are neither KJV nor are they KJV derivatives. You do know this do you not? I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie) - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 16:36 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Senator McCarthy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism Recently declassified Soviet-era documents have, in fact, confirmed that Soviet spies had infiltrated the U.S. State Department in the 1930s and 1940s He was right all along! So in the interest of Truth what accusations have I hurled without proof? Answer here ___ Or is it you that is hurling? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So then Kevin, in Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans proof in the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well enough! I'd have though as much. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 13:41 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz When I find one with error I throw it back on the Trash heap where it came from. How much more REsearch do I need when I know about Judith? Some translations will require more research, but since I talk no foriegn Languages, I do not need to concern myself with such, EH?Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This then is your direct answer to my direct question? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 12:45 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Ask JudithLance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you happen to know for a certainty upon which mss all foreign translation are based? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 08:22 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz You asked me not to give a smart remark. I complied. I answered as best I could since I really did not understand your question State it more clearly & I will answer. I do not evade questions. The new bible problem exists in other languages also. There are plenty of translations based on the Textus Receptus in other languages that are the pure word of God for the people of that language. There are also corrupt bibles in those languages based on the corrupt greek text of the Jesuits Westcott & Hort Who worships pages, covers and indexing? Looks like you are the one that needs to lighten up, how absurd! Why is it that you inteligensia always have to mischaracterize? Why not deal with the issue unless it is you who is not able to. I guess this is the best you can do given the facts. Fact is the new bibles are hopelessly corrupted. Are far as lightening up, I will never as long as God gives me strength. I do not want to face His rebuke, for suffering FALSE Teachers! Rev 2:20 I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. WWJD What would JUDITH do?Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is both evasive and, a non-answer. I've done the same myself multitudinous times on TT so, I can't hold your feet to the fire. However, one can't fail to notice that both Christine and yourself have no real answer for this reality. Which reality? The reality that the majority (pun intended) of believers on the globe read from a bible which is not the counterpart to the KJV. May I ask those of you (Kevin, Christine and David) who worship the pages, covers and indexing to lighten up a bit and, let God be God. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 02, 2005 21:23 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz The Bibles that have out & out lies and ERRORS in them can not possibly be God's word. It may say Bible, it may look like a Bible, but a FALSE WITNESS utters lies! The Word of God is recorded in the Bible that we may know what is required of us and that we might DO IT! Tell me what you make of that observation. Well obviously those that do not speak ENGLISH would have a Bible that is based on the Recieved text. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is wise for one to remember that the Word of God is Jesus Christ. It is also wise to remember that His (God's)
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They ( Then) why did Jesus blow it off by telling the disciples they would always have the poor . Well, this is perhaps the most upsetting of my discussions here on TT. I really have nothing more to say. We have virtually nothing in common. You will not believe me, but I am going to think about what has just happened, do some praying (part of it will be "intercessory" as we call it in the land of the Charismata) and return. John Smithson On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:54:58 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I believe, Judy, is that your response is one of the more bazaar comments entertained here on TT. In my book, David's " children sent to hell " comment is number 1; jt: What on earth are you talking about JD - Solomon? this is number 2, for the time being. You ask a question to which the answer would have absolutely no meaning to you -- so why ask? I mean, dead is dead -- right? jt: I have no idea what you are referring to or talking about - what was the question? We are not going to even entertain a benevolent emotion because they are better off dead anyway!!! jt: Your words not mine and again, I have no idea what you are talking about or referring to. That is not only nasty but gross and disgusting. Yeah !!! It most definitely is not the widom of God. On one hand we beat the banner for action in Iraq. I am one who, thus far, thinks intervention in Iraq is a good thing. But, for me, we should be there for the same reasons we should be in Durfar and the Congo and so on. The fact that we are not in the Congo or Durfar is evidence , to me, that humanitarian concerns had nothing to do with our going to Iraq. I believe that the people of that country benefitted from our hypocricy anyway. jt: It's good that you have opinions about all this JD. I don't since I am not in the position to know all details I leave that to the ppl God has placed in authority - the ones who make these kinds of decisions. A position that ignores the blight of the poor and hungry finds people without a divine awareness, per Is 58:9-11. jt: They why did Jesus blow it off by telling the disciples they would always have the poor among them? I guess he must have been void of divine awareness also. What is critical in the Is 58 passage is the fact that the disciple is pictured as one who is searching for God, but finding Him only when a number of realities are entertained in his life - not the lest of which is the outpouring for the hungre and and afflicted. Jd jt: No JD; it is dealing with the sin in their lives as a whole - it is not playing God to the whole globe. jt
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I have no idea what is going on in the Congo Terry, and I suggest that you don't either. Not really. I've had enough going on here in my own home for the past two weeks to keep me more than busy. I'm sorry you think I am cold hearted and unloving but I still need the confirmation and witness of the Holy Spirit before begging God to do something when He knows the details much better than me .. Don't you think He is able to put it on the heart of some intercessor if that is what it would take? jt Terry writes: To hear that brothers and sisters in Christ are being killed for no other reason but that they worship the true God, and then say "That's not my problem" is about as cold hearted and unloving as anything you could say, Judy. I generally agree somewhat with what you say, but you are way off base this time. I suggest you get on your knees and beg God to help these brothers and sisters. Terry On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 16:25:54 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Judy Taylor wrote: Where they hacked to death by other believers in their church services JD? If they are christians then I rejoice with them that they are now at a better place. Do you think God expects every believer to be responsible for every other believer no matter in what country in the world JD? Should we hire the CIA to keep us up with what is going on? ==
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Judy Taylor wrote: Where they hacked to death by other believers in their church services JD? If they are christians then I rejoice with them that they are now at a better place. Do you think God expects every believer to be responsible for every other believer no matter in what country in the world JD? Should we hire the CIA to keep us up with what is going on? == To hear that brothers and sisters in Christ are being killed for no other reason but that they worship the true God, and then say "That's not my problem" is about as cold hearted and unloving as anything you could say, Judy. I generally agree somewhat with what you say, but you are way off base this time. I suggest you get on your knees and beg God to help these brothers and sisters. Terry
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prophets are unambiguous; conjecture is not prophecy, conjecturists are not prophets ftr, your original comment, below, promotes a false, ambiguous idea of JC which you can not defend truthfully by defending your self On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:32:36 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>David Miller wrote:>>> ... Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do.> >Gary wrote:>> myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense|| > [DavidM:]> If I had spoken in the present tense ||
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DAVEH: Hmm..So why did you not quote my posts about Izzy's beauty as an example??? David Miller wrote: We are looking for posts with substance, -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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I'd like to see something of substance that is in line with God's Word (not doctrines of men) written by either of them on a subject we have discussed on TT. If you search the archives I think you will find that they both excel in criticism and their own opinion which is OK if this is what they want to contribute. However, this will not qualify them as discerning disciples jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 15:27:05 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First of all, I thought you were responding to my words, since you included them in your response -- call me crazy. Secondly, are you tryng to tell me that nothing written by Gary was (is) biblical -- all of it was rock and roll? Are you trying to convince me that the Bishop from the North only speaks of movies? That seems to be what you just said. There is no point in going on with this discussion if that is your "recollection." What is your claim against these two men, once again? NOTHING but rock and roll and the movies? Is that what you just said? JD From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary & Lance are referenced in my wording not yours because they are two of the three who are most critical of David Miller and his spiritual gift. I'd be interested in some examples of the rooting and grounding (in God's Word) that you perceive in the writings of both Lance and Gary JD. Lance is an expert in old movies and this is what he writes about. Gary is taken up with his own writings, those of Bob Dylan, and the word "myth" ... So how about giving me some examples of what I have missed. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:42:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance" referenced below in my wording - not that anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually write? But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. So who decides? You or me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live. JD From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD it is impossible to "try the spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true for either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment) and what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because a person can be honestly deceived so being honest is not a litmus test either. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm the difference. JD
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They are definitely that! ROFL! Iz But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. JD
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First of all, I thought you were responding to my words, since you included them in your response -- call me crazy. Secondly, are you tryng to tell me that nothing written by Gary was (is) biblical -- all of it was rock and roll? Are you trying to convince me that the Bishop from the North only speaks of movies? That seems to be what you just said. There is no point in going on with this discussion if that is your "recollection." What is your claim against these two men, once again? NOTHING but rock and roll and the movies? Is that what you just said? JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:06:15 -0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Gary & Lance are referenced in my wording not yours because they are two of the three who are most critical of David Miller and his spiritual gift. I'd be interested in some examples of the rooting and grounding (in God's Word) that you perceive in the writings of both Lance and Gary JD. Lance is an expert in old movies and this is what he writes about. Gary is taken up with his own writings, those of Bob Dylan, and the word "myth" ... So how about giving me some examples of what I have missed. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:42:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance" referenced below in my wording - not that anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually write? But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. So who decides? You or me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live. JD From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD it is impossible to "try the spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true for either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment) and what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because a person can be honestly deceived so being honest is not a litmus test either. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm the difference. JD
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Gary & Lance are referenced in my wording not yours because they are two of the three who are most critical of David Miller and his spiritual gift. I'd be interested in some examples of the rooting and grounding (in God's Word) that you perceive in the writings of both Lance and Gary JD. Lance is an expert in old movies and this is what he writes about. Gary is taken up with his own writings, those of Bob Dylan, and the word "myth" ... So how about giving me some examples of what I have missed. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:42:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance" referenced below in my wording - not that anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually write? But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. So who decides? You or me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live. JD From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD it is impossible to "try the spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true for either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment) and what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because a person can be honestly deceived so being honest is not a litmus test either. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm the difference. JD
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And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance" referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually write? But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. So who decides? You or me? Or maybe we just agree to live and let live. JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:14:44 -0400Subject: Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz JD it is impossible to "try the spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true for either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment) and what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because a person can be honestly deceived so being honest is not a litmus test either. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm the difference. JD
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This is so very funny!!! Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment)
[TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
JD show me in scripture where God makes "his ppl" responsible for the ills of the whole world? The Church is responsible to witness to the Truth and the Truth is what will make them free. In the world there is always some crisis. It is just one big demonic game. I can remember the 60's when my sister would send these newspaper clippings to me about impending doom from a nuclear catastrophe and everyone was investing in bomb shelters which proved to be a mirage. Missionaries have been sent to Zaire - we have some living locally and some boys from that nation who are here to study. CBN is also very involved. ... So if there is something we are all missing please post Chapter and verse and I for one will give it some thought and some prayer. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:03:16 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: does the "love of God" in your life say anything to this problem or is your thinking that the Government fulfills your responsiblity to those dying in the Congo? - or is that just more liberal nonsense? JD From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lance, get it off your chest and please EXPLAIN to us exactly what you want US to do SPECIFICALLY about the CONGO! Shall we follow your example and just blame other entirely guiltless people for it so that we can feel how compassionate we are? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Myopia. Ask your husband about it. I've found a total lack of concern on TT, from DM to DH, for global issues. To make light of 4M deaths is simply beyond my comprehension. Wait, actually it's not as you've all made jokes at any reference to events outside of either your neighborhoods or some 'sodomite' convention with an accompanying 'hollerin'' contest. From: ShieldsFamily You don?t make me feel uncomfortable except for you, Lance. You?re really ?out there? my friend. And your concerns about the Congo?what are you and Canada doing about it? Did you have a complaint with someone other than your beloved United Nations? (It?s a crooked JOKE!!!) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz. You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia (estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan (70,000) Despite this, the international community has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25% when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level. In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not yet mobilized the necessary will or resources to effectively address the crisis," according to the latest mortality study, a joint effort by the New York based International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet Institute. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Oh, good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and true names to call other people? If it isn?t ?Hitler? it?s ?McCarthy?. Get a new, but more creative insult please. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beh
Re: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
JD it is impossible to "try the spirits" aside from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true for either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment) and what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than scripture (out of the abundance that fills the heart the mouth speaks). To me this has everything to do with everything because a person can be honestly deceived so being honest is not a litmus test either. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:07:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm the difference. JDFrom: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD/Perry what about the fact that some (possibly including Gary) hold to a doctrine that teaches them that the spiritual gifts Jesus gave to the Church are not for today - that they died out with the last apostle - as senseless as that may be. A person like that would not accept a genuine prophet in their midst, nor would they be qualified to evaluate the gift operating through them which would make their opinion on the subject without foundation and pointless. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 12:12:59 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know , Perry, if you are going to get serious with this -- what about "liar" and Deegan. Or just about ANYTHING Izzy says to anyone on the "left? You strike me as being fair minded -- but you areheaded across the line -- big time. As far as David being a false prophet -- tons of evidence on that , Perry. Does not mean that he IS a false prophet -- but it does mean that Gary's opinion is not unsupported. JD From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary, To call someone's comments a "myth" (even without any evidence) expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical comment equates David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack, please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it. Perry the moderator >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulative >personal reasons or as does the author, below) > >On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >writes: > >..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy. And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm the difference. JD-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 12:58:11 -0400Subject: Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz JD/Perry what about the fact that some (possibly including Gary) hold to a doctrine that teaches them that the spiritual gifts Jesus gave to the Church are not for today - that they died out with the last apostle - as senseless as that may be. A person like that would not accept a genuine prophet in their midst, nor would they be qualified to evaluate the gift operating through them which would make their opinion on the subject without foundation and pointless. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 12:12:59 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know , Perry, if you are going to get serious with this -- what about "liar" and Deegan. Or just about ANYTHING Izzy says to anyone on the "left? You strike me as being fair minded -- but you areheaded across the line -- big time. As far as David being a false prophet -- tons of evidence on that , Perry. Does not mean that he IS a false prophet -- but it does mean that Gary's opinion is not unsupported. JD From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary, To call someone's comments a "myth" (even without any evidence) expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical comment equates David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack, please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it. Perry the moderator >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulative >personal reasons or as does the author, below) > >On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >writes: > >..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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does the "love of God" in your life say anything to this problem or is your thinking that the Government fulfills your responsiblity to those dying in the Congo? - or is that just more liberal nonsense? JD -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 09:54:13 -0500Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Lance, get it off your chest and please EXPLAIN to us exactly what you want US to do SPECIFICALLY about the CONGO! Shall we follow your example and just blame other entirely guiltless people for it so that we can feel how compassionate we are? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 4:21 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Myopia. Ask your husband about it. I've found a total lack of concern on TT, from DM to DH, for global issues. To make light of 4M deaths is simply beyond my comprehension. Wait, actually it's not as you've all made jokes at any reference to events outside of either your neighborhoods or some 'sodomite' convention with an accompanying 'hollerin'' contest. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 21:19 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz You don?t make me feel uncomfortable except for you, Lance. You?re really ?out there? my friend. And your concerns about the Congo?what are you and Canada doing about it? Did you have a complaint with someone other than your beloved United Nations? (It?s a crooked JOKE!!!) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:25 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz. You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia (estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan (70,000) Despite this, the international community has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25% when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level. In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not yet mobilized the necessary will or resources to effectively address the crisis," according to the latest mortality study, a joint effort by the New York based International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet Institute. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Oh, good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and true names to call other people? If it isn?t ?Hitler? it?s ?McCarthy?. Get a new, but more creative insult please. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:47 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz So then Kevin, in Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans proof in the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well enough! I'd have though as much.
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JD/Perry what about the fact that some (possibly including Gary) hold to a doctrine that teaches them that the spiritual gifts Jesus gave to the Church are not for today - that they died out with the last apostle - as senseless as that may be. A person like that would not accept a genuine prophet in their midst, nor would they be qualified to evaluate the gift operating through them which would make their opinion on the subject without foundation and pointless. jt On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 12:12:59 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know , Perry, if you are going to get serious with this -- what about "liar" and Deegan. Or just about ANYTHING Izzy says to anyone on the "left? You strike me as being fair minded -- but you areheaded across the line -- big time. As far as David being a false prophet -- tons of evidence on that , Perry. Does not mean that he IS a false prophet -- but it does mean that Gary's opinion is not unsupported. JD From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary, To call someone's comments a "myth" (even without any evidence) expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical comment equates David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack, please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it. Perry the moderator >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulative >personal reasons or as does the author, below) > >On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >writes: > >..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Let me get this straight - IYO it is the duty of
America as a nation to go in and try to heal the epidemic
of violence and Aids in the Congo with what??
Just how does the gospel of the Kingdom cover a situation
such as this?
jt
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:09:29 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Why? It is the gospel of the kingdom, that's
why.
From: Judy Taylor
Lance why are you so busy judging nations?
The Lord is the one who will take care of that in His time.
We are supposed to be examining ourselves to see if
WE are in the faith so that we will be on the right side
when He returns. jt
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:18:23 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
If this was a source of oil Kevin, your
country WOULD BE THERE! Terry sees this.
From: Kevin Deegan
These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8
million fatalities since the crisis began in August
Why don't you go over there and do something about it?
Talk is cheap!Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When
(in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be
faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great
'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland
security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand
thingy, Iz.
You want serious? I'll give you serious!
Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die
every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of
these deaths are accounted for by children under five years of
age. These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8
million fatalities since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end
of April 2004. This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other
conflict since the end of World War II and in terms of death toll
exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia (estimated 250,000
dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan
(70,000)
Despite this, the international community
has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis.
During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its
activities had been raised by August, while contributions by the
United Sates Agency for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have
declined by almost 25% when compared with 2003. "No other recent
confllict has claimed as many lives and mortality rates remain
elevated at an alarming level. In spite of these unambiguous
facts, the international community has not yet mobilized the necessary
will or resources to effectively address the crisis," according to the
latest mortality study, a joint effort by the New York based
International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet
Institute.
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re:
[TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Oh, good
grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried
and true names to call other people? If it isnt Hitler its
McCarthy. Get a new, but more creative insult please.
Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance
MuirSent: Friday,
June 03, 2005 11:47 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re:
[TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
So then Kevin, in
Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans
proof in the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well
enough! I'd have though as
much.
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There is no false witness being 'borne' here, CPL. I've been reading David for a long, long, long while. He has a way of parsing definite articles. I already know what David would say in response to my 'supportive arguments'. So then, as I bear up under your mutual monologues with the Mormons, you can tolerate my 'read' of David's very distinctive theological 'bent'. - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 04, 2005 11:41 Subject: Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > Because if you can not support your claims, they are likely false, and > bearing false witness...well...you know. > > >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >To: > >Subject: Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > >Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:38:36 -0400 > > > >Why? > >- Original Message ----- > >From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: > >Sent: June 04, 2005 11:37 > >Subject: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > > > > > > > > > > Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a > > > misreadng, please provide some evidence of such and allow David to > >respond. > > > > > > Perry the Moderator > > > > > > >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > > > >To: > > > >Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > > > >Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:08:12 -0400 > > > > > > > >As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of > > > >both. > > > >(Jesus & Scripture) > > > > > > > > > > > >- Original Message - > > > >From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: > > > >Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09 > > > >Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lance wrote: > > > > > > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe > > > > > > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed > > > > > > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie) > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name > >into > > > >the > > > > > mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. > >Don't > > > >you > > > > > think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do? > > > > > > > > > > Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in > >the > > > > > following passage: > > > > > > > > > > John 10:34-36 > > > > > (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye > >are > > > > > gods? > > > > > (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the > > > > > scripture cannot be broken; > > > > > (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into > >the > > > > > world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? > > > > > > > > > > Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he > >illustrates > > > > > respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he also > > > >taught > > > > > that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away. > > > > > > > > > > Matthew 5:17-18 > > > > > (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I > >am > > > >not > > > > > come to destroy, but to fulfil. > > > > > (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot > >or > > > >one > > > > > tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. > > > > > > > > > > Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey > > > >those > > > > > expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as > >legalists. > > > > > > > > > > Matthew 23:2-3 > > > > > (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: > > > > > (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you obs
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Because if you can not support your claims, they are likely false, and bearing false witness...well...you know. From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: Subject: Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:38:36 -0400 Why? - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 04, 2005 11:37 Subject: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > > Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a > misreadng, please provide some evidence of such and allow David to respond. > > Perry the Moderator > > >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >To: > >Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > >Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:08:12 -0400 > > > >As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of > >both. > >(Jesus & Scripture) > > > > > >----- Original Message - > >From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: > >Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09 > >Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > > > > > > > Lance wrote: > > > > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe > > > > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed > > > > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie) > > > > > > I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name into > >the > > > mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. Don't > >you > > > think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do? > > > > > > Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in the > > > following passage: > > > > > > John 10:34-36 > > > (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are > > > gods? > > > (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the > > > scripture cannot be broken; > > > (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the > > > world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? > > > > > > Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates > > > respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he also > >taught > > > that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away. > > > > > > Matthew 5:17-18 > > > (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am > >not > > > come to destroy, but to fulfil. > > > (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or > >one > > > tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. > > > > > > Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey > >those > > > expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as legalists. > > > > > > Matthew 23:2-3 > > > (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: > > > (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; > >but > > > do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. > > > > > > So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those > >who > > > greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those who > > > think it would be evil legalism to do so? > > > > > > Peace be with you. > > > David Miller. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > >know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > >http://www.InnGlory.org > > > > > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > >friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > > > >-- > >"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > >know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > >http://www.InnGlory.org > > > >If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > >friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will
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Why? - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 04, 2005 11:37 Subject: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > > Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a > misreadng, please provide some evidence of such and allow David to respond. > > Perry the Moderator > > >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >To: > >Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > >Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:08:12 -0400 > > > >As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of > >both. > >(Jesus & Scripture) > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: > >Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09 > >Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > > > > > > > Lance wrote: > > > > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe > > > > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed > > > > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie) > > > > > > I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name into > >the > > > mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. Don't > >you > > > think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do? > > > > > > Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in the > > > following passage: > > > > > > John 10:34-36 > > > (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are > > > gods? > > > (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the > > > scripture cannot be broken; > > > (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the > > > world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? > > > > > > Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates > > > respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he also > >taught > > > that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away. > > > > > > Matthew 5:17-18 > > > (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am > >not > > > come to destroy, but to fulfil. > > > (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or > >one > > > tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. > > > > > > Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey > >those > > > expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as legalists. > > > > > > Matthew 23:2-3 > > > (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: > > > (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; > >but > > > do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. > > > > > > So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those > >who > > > greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those who > > > think it would be evil legalism to do so? > > > > > > Peace be with you. > > > David Miller. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > >know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > >http://www.InnGlory.org > > > > > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > >friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > > > >-- > >"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > >know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > >http://www.InnGlory.org > > > >If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > >friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a misreadng, please provide some evidence of such and allow David to respond. Perry the Moderator From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:08:12 -0400 As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of both. (Jesus & Scripture) - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > Lance wrote: > > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe > > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed > > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie) > > I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name into the > mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. Don't you > think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do? > > Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in the > following passage: > > John 10:34-36 > (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are > gods? > (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the > scripture cannot be broken; > (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the > world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? > > Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates > respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he also taught > that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away. > > Matthew 5:17-18 > (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not > come to destroy, but to fulfil. > (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one > tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. > > Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey those > expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as legalists. > > Matthew 23:2-3 > (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: > (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but > do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. > > So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those who > greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those who > think it would be evil legalism to do so? > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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And you are a breath of fresh air, Lance. A joy and delight. Blessings. (PS I wasn't being flip, but utterly sincere.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:01 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Oh c'mon Izzie, name names. Can you recall just how well the religious leaders quoted the scriptures? Do I believe that YOU esteem the Scriptures? I do. Do I also think that you quote it 'religiously'? I do. You are flip, smart-mouthed and, on occasion, rather unpleasant to read. - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 04, 2005 10:50 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > Jesus will undoubtedly one day set the record straight for everyone on how > important He considers God's Word to be. That will be a day of woe for > some. Izzy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 4:08 AM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > > As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of both. > (Jesus & Scripture) > > > - Original Message - > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09 > Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > > > > Lance wrote: > > > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe > > > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed > > > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie) > > > > I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name into > the > > mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. Don't > you > > think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do? > > > > Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in the > > following passage: > > > > John 10:34-36 > > (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are > > gods? > > (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the > > scripture cannot be broken; > > (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the > > world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? > > > > Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates > > respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he also > taught > > that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away. > > > > Matthew 5:17-18 > > (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am > not > > come to destroy, but to fulfil. > > (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one > > tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. > > > > Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey those > > expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as legalists. > > > > Matthew 23:2-3 > > (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: > > (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; > but > > do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. > > > > So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those who > > greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those who > > think it would be evil legalism to do so? > > > > Peace be with you. > > David Miller. > > > > > > -- > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know > how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, tha
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I agree totally, Lance. Let's just "tell men not to impregnate women" and see if that flies. I'm sure it will do a lot to change hearts and lives. Meanwhile, for those who aren't listening, let's change laws to protect the innocent unborn. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 7:07 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Was there ever a time when...Yes, there was. Abortion. Have you read 'Freakonomics'? Look at his 'take' on abortion. Yes I do have a solution. Starting with yourself and, working outward, tell men not to get women pregnant who will not carry the pregnancy to term. Is this a joke? It is not! - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 04, 2005 08:56 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > Lance wrote: > > I've found a total lack of concern on TT, from > > DM to DH, for global issues. > > I agree, Lance, that my concern for global issues is not very high. In > fact, my concern for national issues isn't very high either. I'm in one of > those situations where things are so bad here at home that I try to take > care of the problems here and do not have much of myself left to concern > myself with issues across the other side of the globe. I hope one day that > I might be used that way, but right now, my plate is full and I don't know > how to add global issues to it. My hope lies in the pattern seen in Acts 1, > where he says to be witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in > Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Historically there was a > progression in maturity from things local to things global. I think perhaps > that you are older than me. Was there ever a time in your life when you > were not concerned enough with things global? > > Lance wrote: > > To make light of 4M deaths is simply beyond > > my comprehension. > > What is your perspective about the more than 46 million deaths through > abortion? Do you have a solution to this problem? Are you concerned about > it? I haven't heard you address the problem of abortion. Don't you think > we should start with this more local problem of abortion rather than the > problems in the Ivory Coast and related areas? > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Oh c'mon Izzie, name names. Can you recall just how well the religious leaders quoted the scriptures? Do I believe that YOU esteem the Scriptures? I do. Do I also think that you quote it 'religiously'? I do. You are flip, smart-mouthed and, on occasion, rather unpleasant to read. - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 04, 2005 10:50 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > Jesus will undoubtedly one day set the record straight for everyone on how > important He considers God's Word to be. That will be a day of woe for > some. Izzy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 4:08 AM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > > As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of both. > (Jesus & Scripture) > > > - Original Message - > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09 > Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > > > > Lance wrote: > > > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe > > > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed > > > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie) > > > > I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name into > the > > mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. Don't > you > > think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do? > > > > Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in the > > following passage: > > > > John 10:34-36 > > (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are > > gods? > > (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the > > scripture cannot be broken; > > (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the > > world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? > > > > Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates > > respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he also > taught > > that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away. > > > > Matthew 5:17-18 > > (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am > not > > come to destroy, but to fulfil. > > (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one > > tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. > > > > Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey those > > expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as legalists. > > > > Matthew 23:2-3 > > (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: > > (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; > but > > do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. > > > > So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those who > > greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those who > > think it would be evil legalism to do so? > > > > Peace be with you. > > David Miller. > > > > > > -- > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know > how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Lance, get it off your chest and please EXPLAIN to us exactly what you want US to do SPECIFICALLY about the CONGO! Shall we follow your example and just blame other entirely guiltless people for it so that we can feel how compassionate we are? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 4:21 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Myopia. Ask your husband about it. I've found a total lack of concern on TT, from DM to DH, for global issues. To make light of 4M deaths is simply beyond my comprehension. Wait, actually it's not as you've all made jokes at any reference to events outside of either your neighborhoods or some 'sodomite' convention with an accompanying 'hollerin'' contest. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 21:19 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz You don’t make me feel uncomfortable except for you, Lance. You’re really “out there” my friend. And your concerns about the Congo—what are you and Canada doing about it? Did you have a complaint with someone other than your beloved United Nations? (It’s a crooked JOKE!!!) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:25 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz. You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia (estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan (70,000) Despite this, the international community has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25% when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level. In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not yet mobilized the necessary will or resources to effectively address the crisis," according to the latest mortality study, a joint effort by the New York based International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet Institute. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Oh, good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and true names to call other people? If it isn’t “Hitler” it’s “McCarthy”. Get a new, but more creative insult please. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:47 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz So then Kevin, in Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans proof in the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well enough! I'd have though as much.
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Jesus will undoubtedly one day set the record straight for everyone on how important He considers God's Word to be. That will be a day of woe for some. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 4:08 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of both. (Jesus & Scripture) - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > Lance wrote: > > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe > > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed > > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie) > > I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name into the > mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. Don't you > think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do? > > Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in the > following passage: > > John 10:34-36 > (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are > gods? > (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the > scripture cannot be broken; > (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the > world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? > > Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates > respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he also taught > that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away. > > Matthew 5:17-18 > (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not > come to destroy, but to fulfil. > (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one > tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. > > Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey those > expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as legalists. > > Matthew 23:2-3 > (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: > (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but > do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. > > So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those who > greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those who > think it would be evil legalism to do so? > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Poor JD—no sympathy anywhere! (You need a nice dog.) Let me know when the “new me” is going away so I can hide. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:56 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz If I said these things, you would be all over me -- boredom has its fruit. Just remember you wrote this -- when I get off my "new me" kick (hopefully that will never happen) I will get even. But for the time being, I think you knew I would think this funny, I have act ually saved it !! I showed one of my boys what I am up against on TT --- laughter in the place of sympathy was all I got. JD -Original Message- From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 03:04:03 -0500 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz I guess I just have no sensitivity at all, because I'm cracking up over the whole thing! It only strikes me as funny coming from Smithson. I can just see him laughing up his sleeve. Of course it's probably true, with him being in the construction business, but I just thought I'd pull his leg. (If he has one!) Sorry!!! No more sick (nurse) humor!!! (JD I really don't care what's missing!)Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:16 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Izzy, first of all, it is none of your business if anyone on this group has a malady, or is missing appendages. What do you mean, "he is just now telling us"? What makes you think you even entitled to know this, or that he is obligated to tell you? Second, John gave us a valid reason for his typos, so why do you think he is being dishonest? Third, if you had any sensitivity at all you would drop your prideful attitude, quit trying to cover up your comment with cuteness, and admit it was tacky. Unless, of course, you have no sensitivity at all. Perry >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> >Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz >Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:51:47 -0500 > >Why is that Perry? When folks start make good-natured fun of JD's typo's >suddenly he tells us he has two missing fingers. Now how long have we >known >JD and he is just now telling us that? Do you believe it? If we complain >that he is not making sense is he going to suddenly confess that he had a >lobotomy back in the 50's, or what??? Izzy > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke >Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:37 PM >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > >Izzy, I felt your post below was a bit tacky. I speak as your brother, not >as moderator. > > >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Are those the only body parts you are missing, or are you holding out on > >us, JD? (Sounds like a likely story to me!) Iz > > >-- >"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may >know >how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) >http://www.InnGlory.org > >If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a >friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > >-- >"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may >know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) >http://www.InnGlory.org > >If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a >friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
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Whew !! Take a pill, there DM guy. You got people on the right running wild with ad hom and you go after Mr. G ?? Predictable. JD -Original Message-From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:32:36 -0400Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz David Miller wrote: >> ... Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do. Gary wrote: > myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense > for manipulative personal reasons or as does the > author, below) If I had spoken in the present tense and told you what Jesus Christ said to me today, you would still have an ad hominem slap to send my way. How about giving it a rest. We are looking for posts with substance, not posts that malign and accuse other TruthTalk members of evil. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Was there ever a time when...Yes, there was. Abortion. Have you read 'Freakonomics'? Look at his 'take' on abortion. Yes I do have a solution. Starting with yourself and, working outward, tell men not to get women pregnant who will not carry the pregnancy to term. Is this a joke? It is not! - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 04, 2005 08:56 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > Lance wrote: > > I've found a total lack of concern on TT, from > > DM to DH, for global issues. > > I agree, Lance, that my concern for global issues is not very high. In > fact, my concern for national issues isn't very high either. I'm in one of > those situations where things are so bad here at home that I try to take > care of the problems here and do not have much of myself left to concern > myself with issues across the other side of the globe. I hope one day that > I might be used that way, but right now, my plate is full and I don't know > how to add global issues to it. My hope lies in the pattern seen in Acts 1, > where he says to be witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in > Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Historically there was a > progression in maturity from things local to things global. I think perhaps > that you are older than me. Was there ever a time in your life when you > were not concerned enough with things global? > > Lance wrote: > > To make light of 4M deaths is simply beyond > > my comprehension. > > What is your perspective about the more than 46 million deaths through > abortion? Do you have a solution to this problem? Are you concerned about > it? I haven't heard you address the problem of abortion. Don't you think > we should start with this more local problem of abortion rather than the > problems in the Ivory Coast and related areas? > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Lance wrote: > I've found a total lack of concern on TT, from > DM to DH, for global issues. I agree, Lance, that my concern for global issues is not very high. In fact, my concern for national issues isn't very high either. I'm in one of those situations where things are so bad here at home that I try to take care of the problems here and do not have much of myself left to concern myself with issues across the other side of the globe. I hope one day that I might be used that way, but right now, my plate is full and I don't know how to add global issues to it. My hope lies in the pattern seen in Acts 1, where he says to be witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Historically there was a progression in maturity from things local to things global. I think perhaps that you are older than me. Was there ever a time in your life when you were not concerned enough with things global? Lance wrote: > To make light of 4M deaths is simply beyond > my comprehension. What is your perspective about the more than 46 million deaths through abortion? Do you have a solution to this problem? Are you concerned about it? I haven't heard you address the problem of abortion. Don't you think we should start with this more local problem of abortion rather than the problems in the Ivory Coast and related areas? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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David Miller wrote: >> ... Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do. Gary wrote: > myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense > for manipulative personal reasons or as does the > author, below) If I had spoken in the present tense and told you what Jesus Christ said to me today, you would still have an ad hominem slap to send my way. How about giving it a rest. We are looking for posts with substance, not posts that malign and accuse other TruthTalk members of evil. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Myopia. Ask your husband about it. I've found a total lack of concern on TT, from DM to DH, for global issues. To make light of 4M deaths is simply beyond my comprehension. Wait, actually it's not as you've all made jokes at any reference to events outside of either your neighborhoods or some 'sodomite' convention with an accompanying 'hollerin'' contest. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 21:19 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz You dont make me feel uncomfortable except for you, Lance. Youre really out there my friend. And your concerns about the Congowhat are you and Canada doing about it? Did you have a complaint with someone other than your beloved United Nations? (Its a crooked JOKE!!!) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:25 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy, Iz. You want serious? I'll give you serious! Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these deaths are accounted for by children under five years of age. These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004. This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other conflict since the end of World War II and in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises, including Bosnia (estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo (12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan (70,000) Despite this, the international community has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis. During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its activities had been raised by August, while contributions by the United Sates Agency for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined by almost 25% when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict has claimed as many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an alarming level. In spite of these unambiguous facts, the international community has not yet mobilized the necessary will or resources to effectively address the crisis," according to the latest mortality study, a joint effort by the New York based International Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet Institute. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Oh, good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and true names to call other people? If it isnt Hitler its McCarthy. Get a new, but more creative insult please. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:47 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz So then Kevin, in Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans proof in the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well enough! I'd have though as much.
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Why? It is the gospel of the kingdom, that's
why.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 03, 2005 17:31
Subject: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Lance why are you so busy judging nations? The
Lord is the one who will take care of that in His time.
We are supposed to be examining ourselves to see if
WE are in the faith so that we will be on the right side
when He returns. jt
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:18:23 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
If this was a source of oil Kevin, your country
WOULD BE THERE! Terry sees this.
From: Kevin Deegan
These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million
fatalities since the crisis began in August
Why don't you go over there and do something about it?
Talk is cheap!Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When
(in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be
faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing
in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is
on the lookout for terrorists. It's the head in the sand thingy,
Iz.
You want serious? I'll give you serious!
Does anyone out there know the following: One thousand people die every
day in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and nearly half of these
deaths are accounted for by children under five years of age.
These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities
since the crisis began in August, 1998 to the end of April 2004.
This makes the DRC conflict worse than any other conflict since the end
of World War II and in terms of death toll exceeds other recent crises,
including Bosnia (estimated 250,000 dead), Rwanda (800,000), Kosovo
(12,000),. and Darfur in Sudan (70,000)
Despite this, the international community
has failed to take the necessary action to alleviate the crisis.
During 2004, only 42% of funding sought by the United Nations for its
activities had been raised by August, while contributions by the United
Sates Agency for International Assistance to DRC for 2004 have declined
by almost 25% when compared with 2003. "No other recent confllict
has claimed as many lives and mortality rates remain elevated at an
alarming level. In spite of these unambiguous facts, the
international community has not yet mobilized the necessary will or
resources to effectively address the crisis," according to the latest
mortality study, a joint effort by the New York based International
Rescue Committee (IRC) and Australia's Burnet Institute.
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 03, 2005 14:27
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re:
[TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Oh, good
grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried
and true names to call other people? If it isnt Hitler its
McCarthy. Get a new, but more creative insult please.
Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance
MuirSent: Friday,
June 03, 2005 11:47 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re:
[TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
So then Kevin, in
Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans
proof in the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well
enough! I'd have though as
much.
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As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of both. (Jesus & Scripture) - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > Lance wrote: > > I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe > > that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed > > to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie) > > I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name into the > mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. Don't you > think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do? > > Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in the > following passage: > > John 10:34-36 > (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are > gods? > (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the > scripture cannot be broken; > (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the > world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? > > Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates > respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he also taught > that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away. > > Matthew 5:17-18 > (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not > come to destroy, but to fulfil. > (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one > tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. > > Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey those > expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as legalists. > > Matthew 23:2-3 > (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: > (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but > do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. > > So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those who > greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those who > think it would be evil legalism to do so? > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Clearly so. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:51:16 -0600Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulative personal reasons or as does the author, below) On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do.
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myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulative personal reasons or as does the author, below) On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do.
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If I said these things, you would be all over me -- boredom has its fruit. Just remember you wrote this -- when I get off my "new me" kick (hopefully that will never happen) I will get even. But for the time being, I think you knew I would think this funny, I have act ually saved it !! I showed one of my boys what I am up against on TT --- laughter in the place of sympathy was all I got. JD -Original Message- From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 03:04:03 -0500Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz I guess I just have no sensitivity at all, because I'm cracking up over the whole thing! It only strikes me as funny coming from Smithson. I can just see him laughing up his sleeve. Of course it's probably true, with him being in the construction business, but I just thought I'd pull his leg. (If he has one!) Sorry!!! No more sick (nurse) humor!!! (JD I really don't care what's missing!)Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:16 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Izzy, first of all, it is none of your business if anyone on this group has a malady, or is missing appendages. What do you mean, "he is just now telling us"? What makes you think you even entitled to know this, or that he is obligated to tell you? Second, John gave us a valid reason for his typos, so why do you think he is being dishonest? Third, if you had any sensitivity at all you would drop your prideful attitude, quit trying to cover up your comment with cuteness, and admit it was tacky. Unless, of course, you have no sensitivity at all. Perry >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> >Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz >Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:51:47 -0500 > >Why is that Perry? When folks start make good-natured fun of JD's typo's >suddenly he tells us he has two missing fingers. Now how long have we >known >JD and he is just now telling us that? Do you believe it? If we complain >that he is not making sense is he going to suddenly confess that he had a >lobotomy back in the 50's, or what??? Izzy > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke >Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:37 PM >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz > >Izzy, I felt your post below was a bit tacky. I speak as your brother, not >as moderator. > > >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Are those the only body parts you are missing, or are you holding out on > >us, JD? (Sounds like a likely story to me!) Iz > > >-- >"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may >know >how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) >http://www.InnGlory.org > >If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a >friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > >-- >"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may >know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) >http://www.InnGlory.org > >If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a >friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Let’s see Lance, I was in grade school when all that was going on. Aren’t you making yourself a cliché’? At least the Congo is current events (and very indicative of failed UN morality.) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:05 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz To quote Izzie accurately: tried & TRUE. Read carefully as she is making the opposite point. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 16:40 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Why? What else do they have, surely not facts. Why we are not even let in on what the supposed baseless accusations consist of! ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh, good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and true names to call other people? If it isn’t “Hitler” it’s “McCarthy”. Get a new, but more creative insult please. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:47 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz So then Kevin, in Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans proof in the hope that the accusation itself will serve you well enough! I'd have though as much. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
