Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:55:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


This is NOT, read NOT intended as an insult JD
 Tradition and God's Word do not mix and they do not blend they are like oil and water.
 I am aware that this is not a politically correct thing to say but no insult is intended. jht
 
 
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:42:30 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
In a message dated 1/15/2005 12:44:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


jt: Possibly because you appear to be focused in/on tradition right now and I study God's Word 
(just a guess on my part)




Intentions have nothing to do with it. That is the part some on this forum do not understand. When one contrasts supposed "traditions" to his/her's study of God's Word, we see both arrogance and put down in one single breath. If we had said, " you see the Word differently than." If it is ok for one to talk this way, it should be ok for one to point out the inherent problem. Time will tell. In the end, policing the forum will not work. The only true solution is the Lordship of Christ in the heart of each participant. The lawless will figure out a way to circumvent the rule of law. They have in the past. 


John


RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily




















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005
10:42 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private
Interpretation





In a message dated 1/15/2005 12:44:07 PM Pacific Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:




jt: Possibly because you appear to be focused
in/on tradition right now and I study God's Word 
(just a guess on my part)



Possibly an insult. (just a guess on my part). 



JD, why
must you keep stirring the pot of strife (as if there isnt enough
already.) Let Slade determine for himself if he is insulted. Izzy








Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Jeff Powers



Izzy, I am not a part of this discussion, but I AM 
INSULTED BY IT. Maybe John was also.
Jeff

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  ShieldsFamily 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 
10:37
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Private 
  Interpretation
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:42 
  PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private 
  Interpretation
  
  In a message dated 1/15/2005 
  12:44:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  jt: 
  Possibly because you appear to be focused in/on tradition right now and I 
  study God's Word (just a guess on my part)
  Possibly 
  an insult. (just a guess on my part). 
  
  JD, why 
  must you keep stirring the pot of strife (as if there isn’t enough 
  already.) Let Slade determine for himself if he is insulted. 
  Izzy


RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily








Thats your choice. Izzy











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Powers
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005
9:40 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private
Interpretation







Izzy, I am not a part of this discussion, but I AM
INSULTED BY IT. Maybe John was also.





Jeff







- Original Message - 





From: ShieldsFamily






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: Sunday, January
16, 2005 10:37





Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
Private Interpretation





















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005
10:42 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private
Interpretation





In a message dated 1/15/2005
12:44:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:



jt: Possibly because you appear to be focused
in/on tradition right now and I study God's Word 
(just a guess on my part)



Possibly an insult. (just a guess on my part). 



JD, why
must you keep stirring the pot of strife (as if there isnt enough
already.) Let Slade determine for himself if he is insulted. Izzy










RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson



When 
one thinks I focus on Tradition instead of Scripture, I guess I should just 
laugh it off and say, "Hahahaha, great joke!"

I'm 
going it ignore the hits when they come my way. After all, Messiah saidI 
amto turn the other cheek and He was NOT referring to actual physical 
strikes. He's speaking specifically about what's written in green below and my 
reaction to it. I'm not to come back and hit her with a verbal shot. It's me who 
needs to change.

-- 
slade

  -Original 
  Message-From:ShieldsFamilySent: Sunday, 16 
  January, 2005 10.37Subject:[TruthTalk] Private 
  Interpretation
  
  
  
  jt -- 
  Possibly because you appear to be focused in/on tradition right now and I 
  study God's Word (just a guess on my 
  part)
  JD 
  --Possibly an insult. (just a guess on my 
  part). 
  
  IZZY -- JD, why must 
  you keep stirring the pot of strife (as if there isnt enough already.) 
  Let Slade determine for himself if he is insulted. 
  Izzy




Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/16/2005 7:38:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:




jt: Possibly because you appear to be focused in/on tradition right now and I study God's Word 
(just a guess on my part)



Possibly an insult. (just a guess on my part). 

 

JD, why must you keep stirring the pot of strife (as if there isnt enough already.) Let Slade determine for himself if he is insulted. Izzy



It is funny that you think I am the one who stirrs the pot when it was Judy who made the statement. LOL

Jd


RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily










It is funny that you think I am the one who stirrs the pot when it was Judy who
made the statement. LOL

Jd



And you appointed yourself to notify Slade
that he was insulted. Good job, JD. Izzy








RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson



You 
got the order wrong, but nice try blaming JD for my sin.

-- 
slade

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  ShieldsFamilySent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 12.59To: 
  TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Private 
  Interpretation
  
  It 
  is funny that you think I am the one who stirrs the pot when it was Judy who 
  made the statement. LOLJd
  
  And you appointed 
  yourself to notify Slade that he was insulted. Good job, JD. 
  Izzy




Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor



What is the Talmud Slade?
Did you say yesterday that you had a paper to write on 
the Talmud? jt

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:24:16 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
When 
one thinks I focus on Tradition instead of Scripture, I guess I should just 
laugh it off and say, "Hahahaha, great joke!" 
I'm going it ignore the hits when they come my 
way. After all, Messiah saidI amto turn the other cheek and He 
was NOT
referring to actual physical strikes. He's speaking specifically 
about what's written in green below and my reaction to it. I'm 

not to 
come back and hit her with a verbal shot. It's me who needs to change. 
-- slade

  




jt -- 
Possibly because you appear to be focused in/on tradition right now and I 
study God's Word (just a guess on my 
part)

JD 
--Possibly an insult. (just a guess on my 
part). 

IZZY -- JD, why must 
you keep stirring the pot of strife (as if there isnt enough 
already.) Let Slade determine for himself if he is insulted. 
Izzy
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor



You are "stirring the pot" here John, that just didn't 
need to be said..

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:26:17 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  In a message dated 1/16/2005 7:38:01 AM Pacific 
  Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:jt: Possibly because you appear 
  to be focused in/on tradition right now and I study God's Word (just a 
  guess on my part)Possibly an insult. (just a 
  guess on my part). JD, why must you keep stirring 
  the pot of strife (as if there isnt enough already.) 
  
  Let Slade determine for himself 
  if he is insulted. IzzyIt is funny that you think I am the one who stirrs the pot 
  when it was Judy who made the statement. LOLJd 
  
  


RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation *REPRIMAND*

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson



The 
*naner-naner* needs to stop. As I stated in a previous 
email...

  I hear the tone 
  behind the words better than David does. David sees the words used far better 
  than I. When I tried to speak with others about the tone (even the implied 
  tone), I got shot down. EVERY 
TIME.
Simply stated, it's clear that JD "feels" what I felt 
in JudyT's post. From my understanding, JD is attempting to show JudyT 
wherethe tone can be perceived as mean or insulting. As it now stands, JD 
is not viewed as "stirring the pot" unless overturned by the Owner of the 
forum.

--slade

  -Original Message-From: Judy TaylorSent: 
  Sunday, 16 January, 2005 14.27Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private 
  Interpretation
  You are "stirring the pot" here John, that just 
  didn't need to be said..
  
  On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:26:17 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
jt: Possibly because you 
appear to be focused in/on tradition right now and I study God's Word 
(just a guess on my part)Possibly an insult. (just a 
guess on my part). JD, why must you keep stirring 
the pot of strife (as if there isnt enough already.) 

Let Slade determine for 
himself if he is insulted. IzzyIt is funny that you think I am the one who stirrs the 
pot when it was Judy who made the statement. LOLJd 






Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread David Miller
Slade wrote:
 You and I hardly agree. Why is that?
 One post in about 200 I can agree with.

Judy wrote:
 Possibly because you appear to be focused
 in/on tradition right now and I study God's Word
 (just a guess on my part)

John wrote:
 Possibly an insult. (just a guess on my part).


Judy wrote:
 This is NOT, read NOT intended as an insult JD
 Tradition and God's Word do not mix and they
 do not blend they are like oil and water.
 I am aware that this is not a politically correct
 thing to say but no insult is intended.

John wrote:
 Intentions have nothing to do with it.   That is the part
 some on this forum do not understand.When one
 contrasts supposed traditions to his/her's study of
 God's Word,  we see both arrogance and put down
 in one single breath.

Intentions do have SOMETHING to do with it, but not everything.  The thing 
that is starting to go wrong here is that Judy is dealing with something 
personal... why Slade and her do not agree.  Slade asked a personal 
question, and Judy answered it.  She had no intention of insulting Slade. 
She was trying to answer his question.  Her answer is quite logical 
considering how Slade admits to studying tradition and the importance of 
tradition, something that Judy does not value quite so much.  Her answer 
appears factual, and the only reason why anybody would be offended by it as 
far as I can tell is if they think something is wrong with being focused on 
tradition right now.  Please notice the right now part of her answer, 
because it seems to show how Judy sees this is perhaps a temporary thing in 
Slades studies.

This gets into one of the gray areas that I have mentioned.  In my opinion, 
it does not cross over into an ad hominem attack because the answer was 
solicited by Slade to begin with.  However, it does get close, which is why 
you said, possibly an insult.

Let's just leave this whole thread be.  There are other things to discuss.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 


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Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation *Reprimand*

2005-01-16 Thread David Miller



Ok, Judy. You have gone too far. Your post said, "YOU ARE 
STIRRING THE POT." That's a personal accusation.

Izzy, you too have gone too far. You said, "why must youkeep 
stirring the pot of strife." 

Both of you might be right, but the list does not exist for this 
purpose. Solet's just drop it. 

Judy, you can talk about why focusing on tradition might cause one to 
disagree with someone who is focused on God's Word, but skip the commentary on 
how another list memberisstirring the pot.

David Miller
Moderator.

p.s. No public replies to this post please. Subject line has 
*Reprimand* in it. Read and obey. Let's move on.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:26 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private 
  Interpretation
  
  You are "stirring the pot" here John, that just 
  didn't need to be said..
  
  On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:26:17 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
In a message dated 1/16/2005 7:38:01 AM Pacific Standard 
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:jt: Possibly because you appear to be focused in/on tradition 
right now and I study God's Word (just a guess on my part)Possibly an insult. (just a guess on my part). 
JD, why must you keep stirring 
the pot of strife (as if there isnt enough already.) 

Let Slade determine for 
himself if he is insulted. IzzyIt is funny that you think I am the one who stirrs the 
pot when it was Judy who made the statement. LOLJd 




RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation *Reprimand*

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily








Its dropped already-! Iz











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005
6:28 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private
Interpretation *Reprimand*







Ok, Judy. You have gone too far. Your post said, YOU
ARE STIRRING THE POT. That's a personal accusation.











Izzy, you too have gone too far. You said, why must
youkeep stirring the pot of strife. 











Both of you might be right, but the list does not exist for this
purpose. Solet's just drop it. 











Judy, you can talk about why focusing on tradition might cause one to
disagree with someone who is focused on God's Word, but skip the commentary on
how another list memberisstirring the pot.











David Miller





Moderator.











p.s. No public replies to this post please. Subject line
has *Reprimand* in it. Read and obey. Let's move on.







- Original Message - 





From: Judy Taylor






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: Sunday, January
16, 2005 2:26 PM





Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Private Interpretation











You are stirring the pot
here John, that just didn't need to be said..











On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:26:17 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:







In a message dated 1/16/2005 7:38:01
AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


jt: Possibly because you appear to be focused in/on tradition
right now and I study God's Word 
(just a guess on my part)


Possibly an insult. (just a guess on my part). 

JD, why must you keep
stirring the pot of strife (as if there isnt enough already.) 





Let Slade determine for himself if he is insulted. Izzy

It is funny that you think I am the one who stirrs the pot when it was Judy who
made the statement. LOL

Jd 




















[TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread Slade Henson



If you don't mind, I'll do the David Miller thing and start a thread 
based upon someone else's writing

Judy 
Taylor, who really should have been resting her weary bones in bed,said 
the following on Friday, 14 January, 2005 
01.53

...you have your own private 
interpretation...

What, 
Judy,is your interpretation of "Private 
Interpretation?"

-- 
slade




Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor



If you will send me my quote in the balance and context 
I wrote it in Slade- I will be glad to oblige. judyt

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:45:43 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  If you don't mind, I'll do the David Miller thing and 
  start a thread based upon someone else's writing
  
  Judy 
  Taylor, who really should have been resting her weary bones in bed,said 
  the following on Friday, 14 January, 2005 
  01.53
  
  ...you have your own private 
  interpretation...
  
  What, Judy,is your interpretation of "Private 
  Interpretation?"
  
  -- 
  slade
  


RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread Slade Henson



Your post (that you could have remembered 
writingeasier than me retrieving it)is attached to this 
email.

So we don't begin with a rabbit trail,What is 
your definition of Private 
Interpretation.



From: Judy TaylorSent: 
Saturday, 15 January, 2005 09.52Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private 
InterpretationIf you will send me my quote 
in the balance and context I wrote it in Slade- I will be glad to 
oblige. judyt



On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:45:43 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
What, Judy,is your interpretation of "Private 
Interpretation?"
---BeginMessage---



Then John you have your own private interpretation so 
that what God says about it makes no difference to you...
At least this is the way it appears to me. 
His word clearly says SIN IS LAWLESSNESS - and it also says that 
no
prophecy of scripture is for private 
interpretation. 1 John 3:4 is just as inspired as the rest. 
judyt

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:36:10 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  In a message dated 1/13/2005 10:29:49 PM 
  Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  jd: Judy, you really do not have a clue as to "the practice of 
lawlessness." Your use of the phrase "This is sin" forces this 
conclusion. jt: Just agreeing with God's Word John ie: "Everyone who 
practices sin also practices lawlessness and sin is lawlessness" (1 John 
3:4). Like I said, Not a 
  clue.John 
  
---End Message---


Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor



The original post is an object lesson in"private 
interpretation"
God's Word clearly and plainly says: "SIN 
IS LAWLESSNESS" (1 John 3:4)
John says it's not and tells me that I don't have a 
clue as to the practice of lawlessness so here is a 
contradiction. 
I choose to believeGod's Word and IMOJohn 
has his own private interpretation of both sin and lawlessness. jht



On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:46:25 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Your post (that you could have remembered 
  writingeasier than me retrieving it)is attached to this 
  email.
  
  So we don't begin with a rabbit trail,What is 
  your definition of Private 
  Interpretation.
  
  
  
  From: Judy TaylorSent: 
  Saturday, 15 January, 2005 09.52Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private 
  InterpretationIf you will send me my 
  quote in the balance and context I wrote it in Slade- I will be glad to 
  oblige. judyt
  
  
  
  On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:45:43 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  What, Judy,is your interpretation of "Private 
  Interpretation?"
  


RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread Slade Henson



Are 
you saying that you were not alluding to 2 Peter 1:20? If you 
were alluding to it, please define what you believe the passage refers 
to.

-- 
slade

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy 
  TaylorSent: Saturday, 15 January, 2005 12.16To: 
  TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: 
  TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private 
  Interpretation
  The original post is an object lesson 
  in"private interpretation"
  God's Word clearly and plainly says: "SIN 
  IS LAWLESSNESS" (1 John 3:4)
  John says it's not and tells me that I don't have a 
  clue as to the practice of lawlessness so here is a 
  contradiction. 
  I choose to believeGod's Word and IMOJohn 
  has his own private interpretation of both sin and lawlessness. jht
  
  
  
  On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:46:25 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
Your post (that you could have remembered 
writingeasier than me retrieving it)is attached to this 
email.

So we don't begin with a rabbit trail,What is 
your definition of Private 
Interpretation.



From: Judy TaylorSent: 
Saturday, 15 January, 2005 09.52Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private 
InterpretationIf you will send me my 
quote in the balance and context I wrote it in Slade- I will be glad 
to oblige. judyt



On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:45:43 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
What, Judy,is your interpretation of "Private 
Interpretation?"





Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor



Yes I did allude to 2 Peter 1:20 because my belief is 
that "all scripture is given by inspiration of God" so this
would include 1 John 3:4

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:46:17 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Are 
  you saying that you were not alluding to 2 Peter 1:20? If you 
  were alluding to it, please define what you believe the passage 
  refers to.
  
  -- 
  slade
  
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy 
Taylor
The original post is an object lesson 
in"private interpretation"
God's Word clearly and plainly says: 
"SIN IS LAWLESSNESS" (1 John 3:4)
John says it's not and tells me that I don't have a 
clue as to the practice of lawlessness so here is 
a contradiction. 
I choose to believeGod's Word and 
IMOJohn has his own private interpretation of both sin and 
lawlessness. jht



On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:46:25 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Your post (that you could have remembered 
  writingeasier than me retrieving it)is attached to this 
  email.
  
  So we don't begin with a rabbit trail,What 
  is your definition of Private 
  Interpretation.
  
  
  
  From: Judy 
  TaylorSent: Saturday, 15 January, 2005 09.52Subject: 
  Re: [TruthTalk] Private InterpretationIf you will send me my quote in the balance and context I 
  wrote it in Slade- I will be glad to oblige. judyt
  
  
  
  On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:45:43 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  What, Judy,is your interpretation of 
  "Private Interpretation?"
  
  


RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread Slade Henson



Great. 
How does one interpret privately and how does one do it 
correctly?

-- 
slade

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy 
  TaylorSent: Saturday, 15 January, 2005 12.53To: 
  TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: 
  TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private 
  Interpretation
  Yes I did allude to 2 Peter 1:20 because my belief is 
  that "all scripture is given by inspiration of God" so this
  would include 1 John 3:4
  
  On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:46:17 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
Are you saying that you were not alluding to 2 Peter 1:20? If 
you were alluding to it, please define what you believe the passage 
refers to.

-- 
slade

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy 
  Taylor
  The original post is an object lesson 
  in"private interpretation"
  God's Word clearly and plainly says: 
  "SIN IS LAWLESSNESS" (1 John 3:4)
  John says it's not and tells me that I don't have 
  a clue as to the practice of lawlessness so here is a contradiction. 
  I choose to believeGod's Word and 
  IMOJohn has his own private interpretation of both sin and 
  lawlessness. jht
  
  
  
  On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:46:25 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
Your post (that you could have remembered 
writingeasier than me retrieving it)is attached to this 
email.

So we don't begin with a rabbit 
trail,What is your definition of Private 
Interpretation.



From: Judy 
TaylorSent: Saturday, 15 January, 2005 
09.52Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private 
InterpretationIf you will send me 
my quote in the balance and context I wrote it in Slade- I will be 
glad to oblige. judyt



On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:45:43 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
What, Judy,is your interpretation of 
"Private Interpretation?"






Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor



Slade why do I have the feeling that I am being baited 
here and that you are not really interested in
the subjects you are wanting me to clarify for 
you??


On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:12:41 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Great. How does one interpret privately and how does one do it 
  correctly?
  
  -- 
  slade
  
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy 
Taylor
Yes I did allude to 2 Peter 1:20 because my belief 
is that "all scripture is given by inspiration of God" so this
would include 1 John 3:4

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:46:17 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Are you saying that you were not alluding to 2 Peter 1:20? 
  If you were alluding to it, please define what you 
  believe the passage refers to.
  
  -- slade
  
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy 
Taylor
The original post is an object lesson 
in"private interpretation"
God's Word clearly and plainly says: 
"SIN IS LAWLESSNESS" (1 John 3:4)
John says it's not and tells me that I don't 
have a clue as to the practice of lawlessness so here is a contradiction. 
I choose to believeGod's Word and 
IMOJohn has his own private interpretation of both sin and 
lawlessness. jht



On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:46:25 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Your post 
  (that you could have remembered writingeasier than me retrieving 
  it)is attached to this email.
  
  So we don't begin with a rabbit 
  trail,What is your definition of Private 
  Interpretation.
  
  
  
  From: Judy 
  TaylorSent: Saturday, 15 January, 2005 
  09.52Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private 
  InterpretationIf you will send 
  me my quote in the balance and context I wrote it in Slade- I 
  will be glad to oblige. judyt
  
  
  
  On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:45:43 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  What, Judy,is your interpretation of 
  "Private Interpretation?"
  
  
  


RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread Slade Henson



You 
and I hardly agree. Why is that? One post in about 200 I can agree with. Perhaps 
you're not curious. I am. This is a highly unusual phenomenon. How is it that I 
get along with Izzy (most of the time), yet she seems to be a lapdog to your 
doctrine? That, also, makes no sense to me. David supports you like an underwire 
--that makes sense to me.


Are 
you being baited? Yes you are, but not for the reasons you suspect. Again, this 
shows the opposing viewpoints we carry. You mentioned 
"private interpretation" in a post,and it clicked in my miniscule brain 
that perhaps this is the secondary source of our [collective] problem on 
TruthTalk.

-- 
slade

The 
primary source of our [collective] problems, in case you are curious, is the 
sheer lack of love on this forum... (which thevassals of divisiveness do 
not know they are the ultimate culprits and all other sources are in direct 
response).

  -Original Message-From: Judy TaylorSent: 
  Saturday, 15 January, 2005 13.57Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private 
  Interpretation
  Slade why do I have the feeling that I am being 
  baited here and that you are not really interested in
  the subjects you are wanting me to clarify for 
  you??
  
  On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:12:41 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
Great. How does one interpret privately and how does one do it 
correctly?
-- 
slade




Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor





On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:52:06 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  You 
  and I hardly agree. Why is that? One post in about 200 I can agree 
  with.
  
  jt: 
  Possibly because you appear to be focused in/on tradition right now and I 
  study God's Word
  (just a guess on my 
  part)
  
  Perhaps you're not curious. I am. This is a highly unusual phenomenon. 
  How is it that I get along with Izzy (most of the time), yet she seems to be a 
  lapdog to your doctrine? 
  
  jt: 
  Probably because Izzy loves you as she says she does but she is no lapdog to 
  anything I would offer, Izzy thinks for herself.
  
  That, also, makes no sense to me. David supports you like an underwire 
  --that makes sense to me.
  
  jt: Which 
  brings me to something I am curious about. Why are you and some of the others 
  so rough on DavidM? Has he offended you in some way? Even if you don't 
  believe in present day prophecy right now can't you put it on the shelf and 
  examine it later?
  
  Are 
  you being baited? Yes you are, but not for the reasons you 
  suspect.
  
  jt: Then 
  why am I being baited?
  
  Again, this shows the opposing viewpoints we carry. 
  You mentioned "private interpretation" in a post,and it clicked 
  in my miniscule brain that perhaps this is the secondary source of our 
  [collective] problem on TruthTalk.
  
  jt: Oh I 
  have no doubt it is a source of our problem, with more than 144 different 
  doctrines being taught out there it would be a miracle if none of them showed 
  up here. Calvinism and dispensationalism have already 
  arrived.
  
  The 
  primary source of our [collective] problems, in case you are curious, is the 
  sheer lack of love on this forum... (which thevassals of divisiveness do 
  not know they are the ultimate culprits and all other sources are in direct 
  response).
  
  jt: Slade 
  we need to agree that our warfare is not against flesh and blood - the vassals 
  of divisiveness are principalities, powers, and wicked spirits in the 
  heavenlies... who do drain ppl and cause lack of love.
  
From: Judy TaylorSlade why 
do I have the feeling that I am being baited here and that you are not 
really interested in
the subjects you are wanting me to clarify for 
you??

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:12:41 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Great. How does one interpret privately and how does one do it 
  correctly?
  -- slade
  


RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread Slade Henson



Thanks 
for answering my question. Now I understand what you mean by "private 
Interpretation."

-- 
slade




RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread ShieldsFamily


















-- slade











The primary source of our [collective]
problems, in case you are curious, is the sheer lack of love on this forum...
(which thevassals of divisiveness do not know they are the ultimate
culprits and all other sources are in direct response).



Perhaps the Lord has sent us culprits and vassals
of divisiveness to help the innocents out there learn to walk in the
Spirit rather than in anger and bitterness. What a blessing we are!!! J Izzy











Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/15/2005 12:44:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

jt: Possibly because you appear to be focused in/on tradition right now and I study God's Word 
 (just a guess on my part)


Possibly an insult. (just a guess on my part). 



Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor



This is NOT, read NOT intended as an insult 
JD
Tradition and God's Word do not mix and they do 
not blend they are like oil and water.
I am aware thatthis is not a politically 
correct thing to say butno insult isintended. 
jht


On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:42:30 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  In a message dated 1/15/2005 12:44:07 PM 
  Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  jt: Possibly because you 
appear to be focused in/on tradition right now and I study God's Word 
(just a guess on my part)Possibly an insult. (just a guess on my part).