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Marlin, You are precious. Perhaps some of us on TT could purchase our spring plants directly from your business. Is that possible??? Or do you just sell to local wholesalers? Would you let us know if there was something we could do to bless your family? We are all struggling in one way or another, and we need to help each other if we can. Have you and your family ever produced a musical C.D.? Seems like theres a lot of talent there. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Getting to know you. Who's next? Terry My family just spent the evening with other brethren singing praises to God. As far as mind games and endless argumentation, it never ends. I can easily get involved and say something if I feelled to do so. I love to enjoy the creation also. But, what is most important to my life is the relationship developing betweenmy family and God. We are applying his word in our lives to the best of our ability. I marvel at the way the holy spirit is leading my wife and children as we struggle together tomake ends meet. Tomorrow beginssix more days of hard work, growing beautiful plants and sending them to market. We sing together when we can. We need each other. --Marlin
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David Miller wrote: Terry wrote: I picture the more educated among us as standing around in a gown and miter board with an armload of books, maybe some horn rimmed glasses thrown in. Uh, what's a miter board? Maybe it should be mortar board? One of those funny looking hats with a tassel. Terry wrote: ... what do you find awesome about your Lord? I find it awesome that the Lord is always right. I know, that sounds a little corny, but really, I mean, he is ALWAYS right. His wisdom is far beyond any of the most learned men. A simple, uneducated man can read the Holy Scriptures, walk in simple faith and confidence toward God, and receive more wisdom and insight than 1,000 professors who labor at understanding the secrets of the universe. I find that to be just awesome. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Marlin Halverson wrote: Who's next? Terry My family just spent the evening with other brethren singing praises to God. As far as mind games and endless argumentation, it never ends. I can easily get involved and say something if I feelled to do so. I love to enjoy the creation also. But, what is most important to my life is the relationship developing betweenmy family and God. We are applying his word in our lives to the best of our ability. I marvel at the way the holy spirit is leading my wife and children as we struggle together tomake ends meet. Tomorrow beginssix more days of hard work, growing beautiful plants and sending them to market. We sing together when we can. We need each other. --Marlin === Good to see that you are concentrating on what is important. Terry
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ShieldsFamily wrote: Terry, Okay, Ill play. Although I dont think it is easy to describe what I find awesome about the Lord. Perhaps it is His absolute tenderness, that He would care to save a piece of trailer trash-- a little girl who had no tenderness or beauty in her life, but had a big ache in her heart to know if there was a God out there somewhere, and if there was that would He just please let her know. That the Omnipotent would fall in love with a skinny little waif that nobody else cared much about, and couldnt have offered Him a thing in exchange. Thats probably why I love animals, and old folks, and other helpless things today. Im sure thats why I love Him. He is the Tender One. Izzy A BIG AMEN! Terry
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In a message dated 3/28/2004 7:04:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey John: Having been in the same predicament in my early years, I think the term "target" is a vivid and accurate description of your experience. Could you perhaps define this filling that you experienced afterward? It might be that many of us have experienced the same thing but are unable to put a name on it or describe it. I assume that God is the senior partner? Yes, God is the senior partner. As so many of these testimonies go, my filling came unexpectedly. After I left the church service, I got in my little Camaro and started down the drive to the main street some 100 years away. I became so overcome with emotion, that I had to pull over and wait. The biblical word is "filling" that is exactly what it was -- I was simply full of emotion. Being macho is or was a big deal to me. Emotions are always resisted. But no more. In fact, I cannot be involved in a song service with any dynamic to it at all without being overcome -- filled . Eph 5:18-19 talks of being filled with the Spirit when we sing and make melody. I believe that tongues is a present time gift, but not for me. Filling, however, is an occurance that is intended for us and happens to more ooften than we know. there were no lights, no warm feeling, no great sense of peace -- you know, all the things you so often hear (and I am not challenging those things). It was like I had been hit with a ton of bricks -- I am driving, I get emotional, I am overcome with those emotions, I pull over and wait -- spending that time talking with God and things in regard to filling have been different ever since (Dec. 1997 -- almost exactly 40 years after my baptism as a 12 year old, Dec. 27, 1957). I was one of those guys who thought I needed tongues. I did everything known to modern man to receive that gift. Lance talks about bias and how it relates to what we believe. Well, since not receiving that gift, I look at some scriptures very differently than I used to. Anyway, I don't want to get too wordy. Does his answer your question? John
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In a message dated 3/28/2004 2:02:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wouldn't worry about the tongues thing. Paul said it was the least important of all the gifts. Absolutely. For me, Terry, for years -- almost 40 -- I could not raise my hands in worship. And when I finally did that, it was such a distraction in and of itself. The single most important event in my life was a sermon by a preacher who said (in 1997) : "Do yourselves a favor and obsess on the Lord for just seven days. Only Christian songs. No news. No newspaper. Nothin but Jesus." It took me a few days, but I decided to try it. I even disconnected by cable TV Anyway, for me that "event" lasted almost two years. It was during that sojourn that I experienced this filling. Gal. 3:27 says this: "All of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ." What if Paul is speaking of obsessing about Christ, or immersing yourself into Christ (isn't that what "baptizo" actually means, immersion?). Just a thought. A brother John Smithson
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John, I share a similar experience, but never considered it filling. I was away on business and attended an Episopal church next to the building I was doing work in. The service was quite impressive, with the processional and all, but during the singing of several hymns the tears were just streaming down my cheeks. I was recalling the crucifixion of Christ, the great sacrifice that he made on our behalf. I looked around, and no one else seemed to be tearing up, so I felt a bit out of place, wondering what someone might think if they saw me, like maybe I was in crisis and needed some intervention, or something. Anyway, it certainly was an faith confirming and affirming experience. Perry From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Getting to know you. Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:01:48 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/28/2004 7:04:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey John: Having been in the same predicament in my early years, I think the term target is a vivid and accurate description of your experience. Could you perhaps define this filling that you experienced afterward? It might be that many of us have experienced the same thing but are unable to put a name on it or describe it. I assume that God is the senior partner? Yes, God is the senior partner. As so many of these testimonies go, my filling came unexpectedly. After I left the church service, I got in my little Camaro and started down the drive to the main street some 100 years away. I became so overcome with emotion, that I had to pull over and wait. The biblical word is filling that is exactly what it was -- / I was simply full of emotion. / Being macho is or was a big deal to me. Emotions are always resisted. But no more.In fact, I cannot be involved in a song service with any dynamic to it at all without being overcome -- filled . Eph 5:18-19 talks of being filled with the Spirit when we sing and make melody. I believe that tongues is a present time gift, but not for me. Filling, however, is an occurance that is intended for us and happens to more ooften than we know. there were no lights, no warm feeling, no great sense of peace -- you know, all the things you so often hear (and I am not challenging those things). It was like I had been hit with a ton of bricks -- I am driving, I get emotional, I am overcome with those emotions, I pull over and wait -- spending that time talking with God and things in regard to filling have been different ever since (Dec. 1997 -- almost exactly 40 years after my baptism as a 12 year old, Dec. 27, 1957). I was one of those guys who thought I needed tongues. I did everything known to modern man to receive that gift. Lance talks about bias and how it relates to what we believe. Well, since not receiving that gift, I look at some scriptures very differently than I used to. Anyway, I don't want to get too wordy. Does his answer your question? John Yes, it does, and I appreciate your honesty and openness. If it were proper for a Christian to envy, I would envy your ability to get such a filling from a sermon or a song. I guess I am just not built along those lines. Compared to me, Mr. Spock of Star Wars fame would be an emotional person. Normally, I just have to take God's word as truth and let it go at that. There is never an accomanying feeling . If He says I am saved, I accept that as a fact, even though I may not feel anything that validates or enhances the statement. There are a couple of exceptions to the foregoing however. On two occasions I have felt absolutly compelled to go and tell someone about our Lord and attempt to win them to Christ. On both occasions, the individual made Jesus their Savior, and I wanted to jump up and down and praise the Lord for seeing fit to use me as His messenger. That is unusual for me. Both those men are dead now. I look forward to seeing them again some day. I wouldn't worry about the tongues thing. Paul said it was the least important of all the gifts. Thanks again, Terry _ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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In a message dated 3/28/2004 2:49:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, it certainly was an faith confirming and affirming experience. Amazing and your conclusions or response was very similar to mine. It does not sound as if either of us was looking for this experience. It just happened. For me, however, I immediately identified it with "filling" because it was such a perfect word to describe where I was at the time -- I was was just full. Anyway, thanks for the reply. John
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Marlin, I pray that the Lord will supply you with whatever your family needs to record your music if that is your desire. My husband says there are recording companies that are less expensive than purchasing your own equipment, but Im sure you know more about that than we do. Your children are blessed to have such loving parents. You will be richly rewarded by the Lord for your faithfulness to Him and your family. Your life sounds like a real living sacrifice to Him. A fragrant offering. No wonder he put you in the flower business. J Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 11:14 AM Of concern to me is conducting business in a way that pleases God and develops character and training in my home-schooled children. Proverbs 22:6 says Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it. This is my greatest God-ordained responsibility as a parent. It is not a job to pawn off on a church. I believe that training a child in the way that HE should go takes into account individual aptitudes and abilities and interests, and matching these to opportunities that we can do our best to provide. I believe that training a child in the way that he SHOULD go takes into account the commandments of God which we will keep if we love Him. One way to appreciate God in return for His many blessings and benefits, resulting from ourobedience and His grace, is to praise Him with songs. Musically, we are not what one calls professionals. That is not our aim, so much as it is to edify one another and to praise God. There are CD recorders available now, but they are expensive. We hope to acquire one some day. The CDs themselves are cheap. --Marlin
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In a message dated 3/28/2004 7:22:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marlin, I pray that the Lord will supply you with whatever your family needs to record your music if that is your desire. Marlin, my youngest son, Russ, has been into Chrsitian music, band amd all, for several years, now. He does a lot of recording at home with equipment he has on his computer. I know it sounds not to professional, but his CD's come out great -- just as good as the CD he and his band paid $22,000 to record. Maybe you and Russ could email or phone chat about this. Let me know. John Smithson
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Amen, Terry. We seek the Giver, and are grateful for whatever gifts He deems to give. J Nobody gets them all. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 4:02 PM I wouldn't worry about the tongues thing. Paul said it was the least important of all the gifts. Terry
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Both John and Perrys experience sound a lot like what I consider my salvation moment. Did you both consider yourselves to be saved prior to this filling experience? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 6:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Getting to know you. In a message dated 3/28/2004 2:49:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, it certainly was an faith confirming and affirming experience. Amazing and your conclusions or response was very similar to mine. It does not sound as if either of us was looking for this experience. It just happened. For me, however, I immediately identified it with filling because it was such a perfect word to describe where I was at the time -- I was was just full. Anyway, thanks for the reply. John
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Who's next? Terry My family just spent the evening with other brethren singing praises to God. As far as mind games and endless argumentation, it never ends. I can easily get involved and say something if I feelled to do so. I love to enjoy the creation also. But, what is most important to my life is the relationship developing betweenmy family and God. We are applying his word in our lives to the best of our ability. I marvel at the way the holy spirit is leading my wife and children as we struggle together tomake ends meet. Tomorrow beginssix more days of hard work, growing beautiful plants and sending them to market. We sing together when we can. We need each other. --Marlin
RE: [TruthTalk] Getting to know you.
Terry wrote: I picture the more educated among us as standing around in a gown and miter board with an armload of books, maybe some horn rimmed glasses thrown in. Uh, what's a miter board? Terry wrote: ... what do you find awesome about your Lord? I find it awesome that the Lord is always right. I know, that sounds a little corny, but really, I mean, he is ALWAYS right. His wisdom is far beyond any of the most learned men. A simple, uneducated man can read the Holy Scriptures, walk in simple faith and confidence toward God, and receive more wisdom and insight than 1,000 professors who labor at understanding the secrets of the universe. I find that to be just awesome. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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I think he meant mortarboard...graduation cap. From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Getting to know you. Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 23:59:50 -0500 Terry wrote: I picture the more educated among us as standing around in a gown and miter board with an armload of books, maybe some horn rimmed glasses thrown in. Uh, what's a miter board? Terry wrote: ... what do you find awesome about your Lord? I find it awesome that the Lord is always right. I know, that sounds a little corny, but really, I mean, he is ALWAYS right. His wisdom is far beyond any of the most learned men. A simple, uneducated man can read the Holy Scriptures, walk in simple faith and confidence toward God, and receive more wisdom and insight than 1,000 professors who labor at understanding the secrets of the universe. I find that to be just awesome. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. _ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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In a message dated 3/27/2004 5:32:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: concentrate for the same length of time on revealing ourselves to others in an effort to get to know one another more intimately, like brothers and sisters are supposed to. Let's start with something easy, like what do you find awesome about your Lord? Pretty good idea for a hayseed. Give me a few hours and I will narrow it down to one thing --- seriously. Actually, now that I think about it -- no contest. For me, it is God's ability to fill me up to overflowing. I had been a child of God for 40 years when I was first filled. I was single at the time and had dated a gal from the United Pentecostal Church of God. We had gone to church and left separately. If you are not familiar with that church, it is a tough place to go if you are not sure of who you are in the Lord. They might as well pass out 8x11 pictures of a target, pin it to your chest as they smile and welcome you into the sanctuary. God has often used the emotion of the song service to fill me since that time, but on that occasion, there was no emotion. I had left the worship service that night feeling like I had just escaped a witch hunt. The filling occurred in my car, no tongues, an obvious statement from God that filling can occur any time and any where and that it is not the result of simple emotionalism. Anyway, "church" for me is an occasion for that filling, a confirmation of who I am (a child of God) and the relationship I share with a partner God. Praise the Lord John Smithson
