Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: New York appeals court torn over reversing Weinstein convictoin

[David Risner]

My big question is, why spend all that money retrying him when he's already 
going to die in prison for other convictions?


Let him rot away like the worm he is and don't let him have any more control 
over anyone else's lives.




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David Risner

From: PGage 
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Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: New York appeals court torn over reversing 
Weinstein convictoin

I agree with the Court of Appeals, but I don’t think the fault lies with the NY 
Prosecutors, but the trial judge. Even then, it was a close call, and the 
Appeals court was closely and bitterly divided. I do think when things are that 
close the decision should be in favor of the defendant.

Weinstein will still do his time in California, even if they decide not to 
retry him in NY.



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On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 at 2:53 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
> Could somebody get the NY prosecutors a refresher course in proper courtroom 
> procedure? Either that or make them wear shirts in public with the words “I 
> help sexual predators get out of prison” printed on them? 
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 2:48 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
>>
>> "Front page" at V... the panel ruled 4-3 for Weinstein, finding that the NY 
>> judge prejudicially allowed women to testify about allegations that weren't 
>> in the original case (he remains jailed, as an appeal is planned)... the 
>> issue of "prior bad acts" also led to the overturning of Bill Cosby's case, 
>> tho on different grounds...
>> https://variety.com/2024/film/news/harvey-weinstein-rape-conviction-overturned-new-york-1235981890/
>>  (link)
>> Next stop, California, where the defense plans to make a comparable case for 
>> tossing that conviction...
>> https://variety.com/2024/film/news/harvey-weinstein-prison-overturned-conviction-explained-1235982257/
>>  (link)
>> B
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 10:54:16 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> NEW YORK (AP) — Nearly four years after Harvey Weinstein was convicted of 
>>> rape and sent to prison, New York’s highest court appeared torn at oral 
>>> arguments Wednesday about potentially overturning the landmark #MeToo-era 
>>> verdict.
>>>
>>> Weinstein’s lawyers urged the state’s Court of Appeals to dismiss the 
>>> disgraced movie mogul’s 2020 conviction, arguing that the trial judge, 
>>> James Burke, trampled his right to a fair trial with pro-prosecution 
>>> rulings that turned the trial into “1-800-GET-HARVEY.”
>>>
>>> “It was his character that was on trial. It wasn’t the evidence that was on 
>>> trial,” Weinstein's lawyer Arthur Aidala told the seven-member court in 
>>> Albany.
>>>
>>> Weinstein, 71, was convicted of a criminal sex act for forcibly performing 
>>> oral sex on a TV and film production assistant in 2006 and rape in the 
>>> third degree for an attack on an aspiring actress in 2013. He was sentenced 
>>> to 23 years in prison. Last year, he was convicted in Los Angeles of 
>>> another rape and sentenced to an additional 16 years in prison.
>>>
>>> A lawyer for the Manhattan district attorney’s office, which prosecuted 
>>> Weinstein’s New York case, told the appeals court that Burke's rulings were 
>>> proper and the conviction should stand.
>>>
>>> Weinstein’s lawyers want a new trial, but only for the criminal sexual act 
>>> charge. They argue the rape charge can’t be retried because it involves 
>>> alleged conduct outside the statute of limitations. Reversing the verdict 
>>> would reopen a painful chapter in America’s reckoning with sexual 
>>> misconduct by powerful figures. The court is unlikely to rule immediately.
>>>
>>> If the Court of Appeals were to rule in Weinstein's favor, he would remain 
>>> locked up because of his California conviction. Weinstein did not attend 
>>> the arguments but was said to be monitoring a livestream from the state 
>>> prison where he is incarcerated, Mohawk Correctional Facility, about 100 
>>> miles (160 kilometers) northwest of Albany.
>>>
>>> Allegations against Weinstein, the once powerful and feared studio boss 
>>> behind such Oscar winners as “Pulp Fiction” and “Shakespeare in Love,” 
>>> ushered in the #MeToo movement. His New York trial drew intense publicity, 
>>> with protesters chanting “rapist” outside the courthouse.
>>>
>>> Weinstein maintains his innocence. He contends any sexual activit

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[David Risner]

She’s one of my favorite comics. I think that it’ll come down to how good the writers are and how much the studio/producers/directors try to make her bland to try to attract the widest audience vs letting her be herself to attract a good core audience. -- DavidOn Jan 13, 2024, at 6:52 PM, Dave Sikula  wrote:
If the sample game Colbert played is any indication, there will be no jokes, so the work will be that much harder.--Dave Sikula





On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 05:36:33 PM PST, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV  wrote:




They don't even have a clip of the show on its Paramount + or Facebook pages.I have my expectations set about as low as they were for the Hardwick edition, so I'll probably like it.  My only concern is whether it can really fill an hour.  The show seemed to work best with a high joke volume, and that takes a lot of work.Best,David





On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 01:53:45 PM PST, Jeff Metzner  wrote:



I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know they probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before, but surely they must have made some test shows?Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current TiVo owners are in this thread?On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:I just watched her interview too.  Meh.I have low expectations for anything after 1130pm.I have set a TiVo Season Pass./Doug eas...@mcd.on.caOn Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV  wrote:Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last week, and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that she won't distract from the guests. I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but the examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off for me. The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful (though still better than Byron Allen).--Dave SikulaOn Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts on Jan. 16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We assume either the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will keep repeating "Comics Unleashed" at that time:https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653





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Re: [TV orNotTV] Lollapalooza Live on Hulu--Hey Kids, Do You Like the Rock and Roll Music?

[David Risner]

>From a 54 year old father who listens to a lot of his 15 year old daughter’s 
>music:

I would highly recommend Beach Bunny at 5:15p on Sunday. They remind me of some 
of the music from the 80s. 

-- David

> On Jul 28, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> 
> There is but one Lollapalooza, and it is in Washington state, not Chicago. 
> And it is in the 1990s. And it contains music that you couldn’t pay me to 
> listen to. 
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 11:33 AM Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>> Live from Grant Park in Chicago, starting in little over a half-hour from 
>> now (3 p.m. ET), with two channels covering two different stages for Friday 
>> through Sunday from 2 p.m. ET, if you want to get down with what the kids 
>> are listening to--the only headliners you've probably heard of are Metallica 
>> tonight (11:15 p.m. ET) and Green Day on Sunday (9:15 p.m. ET):
>> 
>> https://www.hulu.com/lollapalooza
>> 
>> No vomit, no COVID, no monkeypox!
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Hollywood Post Roe

[David Risner]

This ruling also opens up the possibility of Congress outlawing abortion for 
the whole country.If they get control of both houses & the Presidency, the GOP 
could use a reconciliation bill that cuts off Federal funds to a state if they 
allow abortions. Thus fulfilling the requirements for a reconciliation bill 
(and avoiding the filibuster) while still effectively making abortion illegal 
nationwide.--David Risner
 Original message From: PGage  Date: 6/24/22  
12:09 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] 
Hollywood Post Roe It’s true that many Red States (and Red Counties in Purple 
and Blue States) have made it functionally impossible for many poor women to 
get abortions for many years. Still, this will make a profound difference. It 
is one thing to want something and not be able to find or afford it, it’s 
another for that thing to now be illegal. Thousands of women in Red areas who 
were able to get legal and safe abortions last year will not be able to get 
them next year.There is no doubt this is part of a precipitous downward slope. 
This Court not only wants to criminalize abortion, they want to criminalize 
contraception, and they want to turn the clock back on gay marriage. Many of 
them want to undue lots of civil rights law.On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 at 9:39 AM 
Kevin M.  wrote:My wife and I have discussed this at 
length, and I’ve done some amateur fact-finding. And although this is 
undoubtedly a setback for women’s rights, the practical reality is that states 
have been systematically stripping away those rights while Roe was in effect. 
Symbolically it is a huge victory for the fringe right wing. But the reality is 
they’ve been victorious for several years. If you live in a red state, you’re 
probably already unable to get an abortion under normal circumstances. If 
you’re in a blue state, you probably can. That was as true yesterday as it was 
today. The true debate following Roe is if this is the start of a slippery 
slope, and we won’t know that for a while. In the meantime, conservative 
politicians must be held accountable for providing medical and financial 
support to all the moms they are creating. And liberal politicians must he 
pressured to use their influence to change the make up of The Court. A madman 
in the Oval Office made the court into an extremist arm of government; it 
cannot be allowed to continue as it is. On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 6:44 AM PGage 
 wrote:Before I finish and send this post it is possible 
SCOTUS will announce its worst ever kept secret, the ruling overturning Roe and 
officially setting back the clock 48 years.Matt Bellloni (Puck News) is 
reporting that “Netflix, Comcast, Warner Bros. Discovery, Sony, and Paramount 
Global, all told me they are joining Amazon in offering to reimburse travel 
expenses for employees in states that ban abortion who wish to end a 
pregnancy.” Disney, OTOH, declined to comment, perhaps not wanting to be first 
in line for another spanking from the Florida conservatives. But, Belloni 
write, “I’m told by a good source that its employees—including the thousands in 
Florida—almost certainly will be reimbursed for abortion travel.”I’m thinking 
an important non profit to get started is paying for poor women to travel for 
abortions. Also, of course, more TV and movies where people actually get 
abortions (we might not be where we are if that had been happening over the 
last four decades).Also, Belloni notes that “The Writers Guild [is] calling for 
studios to yank filming from states that ban abortion” and wonders is that will 
gain enough traction to actually impact production in Red states like Georgia, 
Texas, and, of course, Florida, which “all host significant studio 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: And the new “Jeopardy!” host is rumored to be…

[David Risner]

He's out of there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2021/08/20/mike-richards-jeopardy-quit/

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 6:49 AM PGage  wrote:

> Matt Belloni is reporting that his sources are saying that the taping if
> the first shows with Richards, that started yesterday, were extremely
> awkward, with lots of staff unhappy with the choice. He also reports that
> the Sony CEO was caught of guard by the Ringer article, and that while he
> is still hoping it will blow over, is prepared to replace Richards if it
> does not.
>
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 at 5:50 PM Diner  wrote:
>
>> Woah.
>> Mike Richards joked about the physical appearance of women, Jews, and
>> Asians across a series of podcasts he hosted. When confronted about it,
>> Richards wiped the entire podcast series from the internet. His bosses at
>> Sony had never heard about it.
>> Excellent reporting from Claire McNear at The Ringer.
>>
>> https://www.theringer.com/tv/2021/8/18/22631299/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-search-process-past-comments
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 11:24:56 PM UTC-4 Pete wrote:
>>
>>> On Ken Levine's podcast, Joe Buck talks about guest hosting Jeopardy. I
>>> liked where he said by the end of his run, he had 3 mistakes on his clue
>>> readings. But he was told that's about the same as Alex.
>>>
>>> https://hollywoodandlevine.libsyn.com/ep236-meet-joe-buck-part-1
>>>
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 1:13 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>>
 On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 9:26 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
 tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The elephant in the room with the ratings is that the show was on a
> steady decline throughout the guest host period.  Even with an 18-game 
> (and
> counting) winner to end the season.  Slight upticks for the Tournament of
> Champions, Aaron Rodgers, and Bill Whittaker.
>
> Maybe this process stanched the bleeding ratings, but I doubt Mr.
> Empty Suit will do better when he starts next month than he did back in
> February.
>
> Whatever Mr. Burton did to hurt you, Dave, I'm sorry.
>

 The ratings always decline when summer comes. It's just not fair to
 compare the ratings of January/February with July/August no matter who the
 host was. It's summer, prime time is in reruns/burnoffs/AGT BB and fewer
 people tune in. Having a chance to do stuff in the evenings after what we
 went through last year was probably also a factor.

 I saw a lot of the media writers and twitter chatter about how LeVar
 Burton was the ideal host for Jeopardy, even before he hosted, and I just
 ignored it. It's another reminder that reality doesn't come from media
 writers and twitter folks. I still think it would be an epic troll to start
 a petition to have him become the new host of Wheel of Fortune.

 I liked Joe Buck's week. He didn't treat it as an audition and it made
 him looser and it gave him good energy. I wouldn't want to see him as a
 host for more than a week but I enjoyed the job he did.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Travelers

[David Risner]

Agreed. It handled time traveling without being extraordinarily obtuse. And
there was good character development. Really felt like if you could assume
the tech was possible, this is how people would act.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021, 9:06 PM PGage  wrote:

> I’m not sure if the Netflix 3-season series has ever been discussed here
> (I can’t find it in a search of my gmail files). I stumbled upon it last
> week and just finished it, and really, really enjoyed it. It’s not perfect,
> but it has many of the best characteristics of good science fiction.--
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Re: [TV orNotTV] TGFTR: Alaska

[David Risner]

I watch it too. They just started an "all-star" season a couple of weeks
ago.

Tyler posted pictures to Instagram from Alaska in late fall of 2020 that
were hashtagged #greatfoodtruckrace. Here is one:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIE2Mu1DrI6/?utm_medium=copy_link

Based upon his Instagram posts, it looks like he flew to Alaska on October
26 and they were finished November 28.


On Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 5:48 PM PGage  wrote:

> To ask these questions I have to admit that I watch The Great Food Truck
> Race. I noticed earlier this week that somehow a whole season had built up
> on my DVR unwatched (apparently aired ~March-May?). Most often this “Race”
> takes place on the West Coast, or in warm climates. This season is in
> Alaska. I have questions (No spoilers below about the outcomes, in case
> anyone watches this):
>
> 1. When was this filmed? I suppose it tends to be chilly in Denali most
> times of the year, but from what was shown it appeared to be Fall or
> Winter, which would make it late 2020 or maybe early 2021.
>
> 2. Did they select Alaska specifically because of fewer COVID
> restrictions? I am often doing other things while watching shows like this,
> so may have missed it, but I did not catch any mention of COVID. The
> competitors did not wear masks while cooking in their trucks, or when they
> went outside to hawk and sell, or even when buying supplies in the Market.
> However occasionally they would be shots of contestants taking off a mask
> while coming into their truck, and some (not most) people on the streets
> could be seen wearing masks.
>
> 3. I’m sure Alaska did have lower COVID rates than, say California for
> much of 2020, and even less restrictive pandemic rules, but was it really a
> good idea to film this type of show even there? Top Chef is airing now, and
> they made it clear that they filmed in Portland in a bubble (they order
> online from Whole Foods, all judges live in the Bubble, they are tested
> repeatedly). I guess Tyler Florence is not as woke as Tom and Padma.
>
> 5. On a non COVID note, does a Reality Show like this meet the definition
> of a Game Show for the purposes of federal regulation? More specifically,
> are the producers allowed to manipulate the outcome for dramatic or
> entertainment purposes?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Bridgerton

[David Risner]

My wife and her mother watched it in one day. They enjoyed it quite a bit, but 
they are fans of romance novels and movies. My mother-in-law is also into 
“historical” fiction. 

-- David

> On Dec 31, 2020, at 4:39 PM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
> 
> 
> I didn't quite make it to the end of the first episode despite liking some of 
> the actors in it (Polly Walker and Ben Miller).
> 
> I mostly enjoyed that the thing is set in London but is filmed in Bath where 
> I went to university and lived for several years. A genuinely beautiful 
> Georgian city, they shot in all the obvious places which amused me quite a 
> bit and meant I was looking at it thinking, oh there's a nice pub there, or 
> that there's a good bookshop right where the camera must be set up.
> 
> A big budget for basically a soap opera. Mind you, so was Downton, but this 
> has even more soap powder sprinkled on it.
> 
> Bath is better served as a location in the otherwise distinctly underwhelming 
> McDonald and Dobbs which has great actors, a great setting and a terrible 
> script. No idea why John Dickerson of 60 Minutes is a fan, but he's spoken 
> about on the Slate Political Gabfest podcast on more than one occasion!
> 
> 
> Adam
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 12:17 AM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>> I made it through the whole thing. 3 of us started it the morning of the 
>> 25th.  We were done by 28th.
>> 
>> It was kinda like bubble gum.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu., Dec. 31, 2020, 6:28 p.m. Kevin M.,  
>>> wrote:
>>> Pretty Little Liars meets a bad (unintentional) parody of a Jane Austin 
>>> novel, only with fewer white people because Shonda Rhimes created it. 
>>> 
>>> My wife enjoyed it and binge-watched it in a week. I was out after one and 
>>> a half episodes. 
>>> 
>>> On the Netflix 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Chris Rose: I've been cut from MLBNet

[David Risner]

Wow, if one of those two were going to be ditched, I would’ve thought it would 
be Millar. He’s pretty darn annoying on that show.

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> On Dec 14, 2020, at 12:08 PM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
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> Many personnel moves across many a business can be blamed on COVID, and 
> apparently this is just one more... "Intentional Talk" takes off this week 
> (12/14-18), then Rose and Kevin Millar do their final shows together... a 
> retrospective, natch... the 21st to the 23rd... 
> https://awfulannouncing.com/league-networks/chris-rose-out-at-mlb-network-tribute-from-kevin-millar.html
>  
> <https://awfulannouncing.com/league-networks/chris-rose-out-at-mlb-network-tribute-from-kevin-millar.html>
>  (link, featuring an emotion-laden exchange from Friday (12/11))...
> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Bad Netflix: Away

[David Risner]

Wow, I liked Away. I was
sad to see it wasn't being picked up for a second season, but it really had
completed it's story. Everything after would have been anti-climatic.

I admit that maybe I'm just so thirsty for non-cheesy, non-war only SF that
I was willing to overlook Away's flaws. Sadly, not every SF show can be as
good as The Expanse, but there are so much really badly made SF, that
something with good production values gets me even if it is cliched.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 10:24 AM PGage  wrote:

> I’m not saying “Away”, the Netflix series about the first manned mission
> to Mars, is the worst thing on the platform. I am saying it is the worst
> thing on the platform I have ever watched all the way through.
>
> I am a sucker for stories about space travel in general, and Mars in
> particular. I also hate spoilers, so I studiously avoided any review or
> comment on Away until I had the time to binge it, which I did last night
> and this morning. It is aggressively, offensively, almost intentionally
> bad. It is the Donald Trump of Mars space program shows. I kept with at
> first not believing it would not get better, and then when it was clear it
> had no aspiration to being better, plowed through as punishment for all my
> past sins.
>
> Most average to good television shows are spoiled by stereotypical, one
> dimensional melodramatic depictions of adolescents. Away does treat it’s
> adolescent character in this manner, but is spoiled by depicting its five
> international astronauts in the same way.
>
> What I am interested in is, how does a show like this get to be so bad? It
> has several big named actors, but feels like both story and dialogue were
> written by someone asking: “How would a poor man’s Shondra Rhimes write
> this?” I get that they were not really interested in the actual science or
> engineering involved in traveling to Mars, and wanted to focus on the human
> elements, but did they have to take such a stinky dump on the technical
> elements, while giving them the middle finger?
>
> I did not like this program.
>
> On the others hand, a month ago I stumbled upon a show called The Queen’s
> Gambit on Netflix before it started trending and without knowing anything
> about it. So good. So I will call it even with Netflix for now.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Fox Sports/News

[David Risner]

That commercial was also played repeatedly on the FS1 airing of the
baseball playoffs today.

It was unsettling. I watch sports to stay away from that BS.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020, 8:28 PM PGage  wrote:

> Thursday Night Football on Fox has run a couple of commercials tonight for
> the coverage of the Amy Coney Barrett confirmation hearings on Fox News
> next week. The tone of the ad was quite different from anything that ever
> airs on Fox Sports, I assume reflecting the worshipful tone of Fox News
> towards figures like this. I don’t recall the culture (stink) of Fox News
> bleeding into Fox Sports this crassly in the past; aside from the odd promo
> for something like Chris Wallace they hardly ever promo Fox News at all.
>
> Or, am I wrong about that? I mostly watch the NFL on the Red Zone in
> recent years; perhaps Fox Sports has been doing this kind of thing more
> often in the Trump years. Anyone have any info on that?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Debate #1

[David Risner]

I didn't watch it, but your comments just made my decision to not watch
seem completely the right thing to do.

I do like your analogy there at the end. Quite clever.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 9:38 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> I’m willing to entertain those still of the opinion that the debates are
> useful for undecided voters, or that they help raise awareness of issues or
> policy ideas. But I endured the entire debate tonight, so I’ve got to tell
> you, if you’re going to defend debates after tonight, you’d better come
> loaded for bear. Because whatever that goatf*ck was, it served no purpose;
> it wasn’t even good theater. It was like watching The View, if after
> watching The View I was then forced to vote for either Joy Behar or Maghan
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: RIP Diana Rigg

[David Risner]

First two seasons (series) of Detectorists are on Amazon Prime here in the
US. Looks like what Amazon has labelled as season 2 includes the Christmas
special that aired just after series 2 aired in the UK.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 2:49 PM Brad Beam  wrote:

> *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Adam Bowie
>
> *>*More recently, aside from Game of Thrones, she had a lovely cameo in a
> beautiful little comedy called The Dectorists (may be on Netflix) where she
> played the mother of her real-life daughter Rachel Stirling. And she
> features in the remake of All Creatures Great and Small which just started
> airing in the UK last week.
>
>
>
> Funnier than their first on-screen pairing on “Doctor Who” (2013), when
> Mom was causing trouble at t’mill up North as the human symbiotic host of
> an ancient leech, and Daughter was her lab rat. (And, the writers sprinkled
> several “Avengers” references throughout the episode.)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B78292o2CMk=108s
>
>
>
> _   _
>
> |_>|_>  Brad Beam- Belle WV
>
> |_>|_>  http://www.facebook.com/74bmw
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Two more shows called up to CBS Prime

[David Risner]

I didn't think Discovery was horrible, just inconsistent. There have been
some good episodes (and some stinkers), and I've become invested in some of
the characters, not the main character though. I don't find her very
sympathetic.

I don't know how much of a draw it will have on CBS. I think most of those
that are interested in it have either gotten CBS All Access or they've
waited for the DVDs. But CBS needs to fill their fall schedule with
something.


On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 9:10 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Discovery Season 3 will premiere October 15 on AllAccess, three weeks
> after they start airing Season 1 on the mothership.  I don't know if they
> think they'll get new regular eyeballs for the show with this, but I
> suppose it's possible, even with the changes in the show for Season 3.
>
> David
>
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 9:54:31 PM EDT, Brad Beam <
> b.b...@suddenlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Filling in the Covid gaps this fall are season 1 of “Star Trek:
> Discovery” (Thursdays) and season 4 of “One Day at a Time” (Mondays).
>
>
> https://tvline.com/2020/08/26/cbs-premiere-dates-fall-2020-star-trek-discovery/?fbclid=IwAR0HoZNl82XeqFPMMMDxo2ZLQASAPrZtOwLyeFayJPEHVE5mJSpj7LJMiaQ
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Re: [TV orNotTV] What show were you watching when a major news event happened?

[David Risner]

I was watching Bear in the Big Blue House on Disney Channel with my just
starting to walk daughter when my friend called me up and told me to put
the news on the morning of 9/11.

Most things, though, have happened during the day when at work or in
school. I did watch the tsunami that hit Japan, but I turned on the TV to
see it after reading something on Twitter about it.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 5:13 PM daniel anderson 
wrote:

> I was watching the World Series in 1989 when the Earthquake happened. I
> can still remember hearing Al Michaels say "I'll tell you what, we're
> having an earth-" before the feed cut out. I remember ABC airing something
> else for a few minutes, before Ted Koppel came on form Washington(where he
> was hosting Nightline).
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Netflix releases list of top 10 most-watched original films ever | The Independent

[David Risner]

Hmmm.  I've only watched 2 & 5. Never heard of 1, 7, 8, 9, & 10.

I find it hard to believe that "To all the boys I loved before" & "Kissing
Booth" aren't on this list. My daughters and all of their friends and my
wife and most of her friends have watched them multiple times.


On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 11:24 AM Steve Timko  wrote:

>
> https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/netflix-films-originals-list-top-10-most-watched-a9623921.html
>
>
> 1. *Extraction* – 99 Million
>
> 2. *Bird Box* – 89 Million
>
> 3. *Spenser Confidential *– 85 Million
>
> 4. *6 Underground* – 83 Million
>
> 5. *Murder Mystery* – 83 Million
>
> 6.* The Irishman* – 64 Million
>
> 7. *Triple Frontier* – 63 Million
>
> 8. *The Wrong Missy* – 59 Million
>
> 9. *The Platform* – 56 Million
>
> 10. *The Perfect Date* – 55 Million
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Won’t have the C-Dub to kick around any more?

[David Risner]

One could easily see Riverdale and the DC shows moving to HBO Max except that 
the Netflix contract for most of them could get in the way of that.


From: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com"  on behalf of 
M-D November 
Reply-To: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com" 
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 10:02 AM
To: TVorNotTV 
Subject: [TV orNotTV] Re: Won’t have the C-Dub to kick around any more?

I've always wondered how long the CW would be sustainable in its current form, 
given the shared ownership between AT & ViacomCBS, but to say the network is 
on its deathbed because their summer programming slate is weak isn't a 
compelling argument.  The CW's summer shows have never been particularly 
compelling, except for when they hold back a show from the Spring (as in 
iZombie's last couple of seasons). What's going to be telling is what happens 
come fall, since they've already said they're starting their 'new season' in 
January (primarily because coronavirus shut down production on Riverdale & the 
Berlanti DC shows).

And not for nothing, but the other networks don't exactly run The Complete 
Works of Shakespeare during the summer either.  (Holy Moly, Don't, AGT, 
Masterchef, Ultimate Tag...do I need to go on?). And for YEARS ABC ran a 
Canadian import ("Rookie Blue") in a prime Thursday night slot over the 
summer...
On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 12:22:20 PM UTC-4 Brad Beam wrote:
The Chief emeritus might be hearing some death rattles.
https://www.primetimer.com/barnhart/the-cw
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon and Roku in standoff with HBO Max and Peacock

[David Risner]

I taught my 73 year old mother-in-law how to use Chromecast. It wasn’t very 
difficult at all.

The nice part about it is you just have to set things up on your phone or 
tablet, and then you can watch it on the TV. You don’t have to go through an 
arcane login process on the TV.

She was more confused when the TV went out and we replaced it with a FireTV 
enabled TV. It took her quite some time to get how to use FireTV even with 
explaining it multiple times over the course of weeks.


From: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com"  on behalf of 
Joe Hass 
Reply-To: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com" 
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 7:05 AM
To: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon and Roku in standoff with HBO Max and Peacock

Speaking as someone who lives in the Google ecosystem and should be all in for 
it, recommending Chromecast is like someone asking for a computer 
recommendation and telling them to build a Raspberry Pi. It's technically a 
valid answer, but it doesn't work as practically as you'd hope.

As a set up: I'm as technically savvy as all get out, but my wife is not. We 
recently retired a Logi automated remote because it would occasionally dump her 
into a scenario she couldn't figure her way out of. And that's not acceptable 
for a remote control. I bought a nine-dollar Jasco three-in-one remote, made a 
job aid, and they're off and running.

When we had a Chromecast, since we have a large local library to stream, there 
just wasn't a good way to do it sveltely so she could confidently use it.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 13:01 David Risner 
mailto:da...@risner.org>> wrote:
The solution is Chromecast $30 – can get it same day at Target or Walmart. If 
you need 4K, get the Chromecast Ultra for $69. If you want to use wired 
networking instead of WiFi, Google has an adapter available for $15.

Very easy to use and setup. Works with both HBO Max and Peacock.

Only major streaming service it doesn’t seem to work with is Apple TV+ because, 
well, Apple. You can screencast to get around it but it’s not the best quality.

I have a Roku on one TV and the other is a FireTV. I have Chromecasts hooked up 
to both of them to fill in the holes. It’s less than ideal to have to have more 
than one streaming device, but it works.


From: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com<mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>" 
mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Joe Hass mailto:hassgoc...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com<mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>" 
mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>>
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 3:01 PM
To: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com<mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>" 
mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: [TV orNotTV] Amazon and Roku in standoff with HBO Max and Peacock

A pox on the lot of them.

https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/hbo-max-peacock-roku-amazon-streaming-1234703977/

Sidebar: I have given up on Apple and will not be giving them another penny 
after a crazy situation involving poorly-integrated two-factor authentication. 
I'll shift everything over to Windows, Plex, Google Drive, and Android TV.

If you'd have told me ten years ago that I would completely abandon Apple, the 
company that made me into what I am today professionally, I'd have thought you 
were nuts. But here we are.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon and Roku in standoff with HBO Max and Peacock

[David Risner]

The solution is Chromecast $30 – can get it same day at Target or Walmart. If 
you need 4K, get the Chromecast Ultra for $69. If you want to use wired 
networking instead of WiFi, Google has an adapter available for $15.

Very easy to use and setup. Works with both HBO Max and Peacock.

Only major streaming service it doesn’t seem to work with is Apple TV+ because, 
well, Apple. You can screencast to get around it but it’s not the best quality.

I have a Roku on one TV and the other is a FireTV. I have Chromecasts hooked up 
to both of them to fill in the holes. It’s less than ideal to have to have more 
than one streaming device, but it works.


From: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com"  on behalf of 
Joe Hass 
Reply-To: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com" 
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 3:01 PM
To: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: [TV orNotTV] Amazon and Roku in standoff with HBO Max and Peacock

A pox on the lot of them.

https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/hbo-max-peacock-roku-amazon-streaming-1234703977/

Sidebar: I have given up on Apple and will not be giving them another penny 
after a crazy situation involving poorly-integrated two-factor authentication. 
I'll shift everything over to Windows, Plex, Google Drive, and Android TV.

If you'd have told me ten years ago that I would completely abandon Apple, the 
company that made me into what I am today professionally, I'd have thought you 
were nuts. But here we are.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Flash" co-star canned after old, bad tweets found

[David Risner]

There is a great service called TweetDelete that will automatically delete
one's old Tweets. Since it is really easy for Tweets to be taken out of
context (not saying his were, I haven't looked at them), it is really
something that everyone should use. You never know what a potential
employer will look at. It seems like something agents should push their
clients to use.

https://tweetdelete.net/

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 5:49 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hartley Sawyer ("Elongated Man"... I think my mom found paper comics of
> him someplace when I was little) made the misogynistic/racist posts in 2012
> and 2014...
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/hartley-sawyer-fired-flash-misogynist-tweets-surface-1297483
> (article)
> https://twitter.com/themirrorin6x17/status/1266586463182995463 (an
> exposer)
>
> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Watching local news during the protests

[David Risner]

I couldn't agree more with you Kevin. My 70+ year old mother-in-law who
lives with us is a news junkie, flipping between channels throughout the
day. She thinks this gives her a balanced view.

I keep explaining to her that it sensationalizes everything and tries to
make you scared and anxious so you'll keep watching. She thinks it keeps
her informed. Hearing her talk about what's going on with the protests is
aggravating because it's all just the line from the police. She's so scared
she didn't want to go outside the house yesterday afternoon just to feed
the neighborhood cats. And there weren't any protests, or riots, within a
five mile radius of us.

Her favorite line when I tell her that she's not getting the full or
correct picture is that "she saw it with her own eyes on TV." The power
behind TV news with its visual images is something that should be handled
far more responsibly. It shouldn't be used to scare people and make them
anxious. It shouldn't just repeat what the government and big corporations
say. It should have actual reporting.

I know this isn't the profitable way to do things, so maybe it needs to be
taken out of the realm of capitalism in some way so profit isn't the only
motive behind how the news operates (this last part, of course, could be
said about all forms of news media nowadays).

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On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 4:55 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 4:54 PM Jim Ellwanger 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 1, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
>> >
>> > But one assumes the pickings are slim over at CBS2/KCAL9. A note for
>> those not living in the LA area: Two rival TV stations share the same news
>> team for budget reasons...
>>
>> They aren't rivals per se -- they're both owned by CBS.
>
>
> They still compete for ratings and advertising dollars
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Embargo until tomorrow...

[David Risner]

Is this a joke?

Finding it difficult to tell these days.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020, 12:42 PM Brad Beam  wrote:

> NFL adds playoff games on Nickelodeon & Peacock as postseason expands to
> 14 teams
>
>
> https://deadline.com/2020/03/nfl-playoffs-expanded-nickelodeon-peacock-air-postseason-games-1202896801/
>
>
>
> _   _
>
> |_>|_>  Brad Beam- Belle WV
>
> |_>|_>  http://www.facebook.com/74bmw
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Seacrest's NYE supporting cast announced

[David Risner]

I might actually watch this now that McCarthy is gone. 

-- David 

> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:08 AM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Lucy Hale replaces Jenny McCarthy alongside him in NY, Ciara remains the LA 
> host, and Billy Porter takes over for Hale in N'awlins.
> 
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dick-clarks-new-years-rockin-eve-2020-lucy-hale-host-1258078
>  (link)
> 
> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: BH90210

[David Risner]

Too late, watched it yesterday on Hulu.

I agree with Kevin's review in every way.



From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
Kevin M. 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 9:42 AM
To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: BH90210

I’m not saying BH90210 is the worst thing in the history of all recorded media, 
but if somebody had the theory that Luke Perry faked his own death to avoid any 
and all association with it, I would be willing to entertain that theory.

Pilot free on iTunes. But for God’s sake, don’t watch it.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/bh90210-season-1/id1472783892

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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS OTA off AT providers

[David Risner]

It's not just the OTA CBS stations that are our. CBS Sports Network is off
as well. At least it is for us in LA market. Really distresses my
mother-in-law who cannot watch her PBR bull riding.

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On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:49 AM Steve Cooper  wrote:

> I hate to defend AT (really hate it) but if the article is correct then
> CBS is asking a 50% increase in carriage fees at a time when OTA network
> viewership is in steep decline. That’s really not what the market is
> indicating.
>
>
>
> Stedve Cooper
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: * on behalf of Tom Wolper <
> twol...@gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *"tvornottv@googlegroups.com" 
> *Date: *Sunday, July 21, 2019 at 11:05 AM
> *To: *TV or not TV 
> *Subject: *Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS OTA off AT providers
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 1:11 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> DirecTV, DirecTV NOW and U-verse users had their access to the stations
> axed 2AM east this morning.
>
>
>
> "T" wanted to offer them as a separate streaming option in exchange for
> less of a fee increase, which hasn't occurred with the channels since 2012.
>
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/20/business/media/cbs-blackout-att.html
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2019%2F07%2F20%2Fbusiness%2Fmedia%2Fcbs-blackout-att.html=02%7C01%7C%7C1e3f6c0ea89d4a52e42808d70df53985%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636993219184902537=ExsmsKHFY6G6KDQXQ6OPRZ0jpFl6YdL00meH92bJN7k%3D=0>
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>
>
> These outages are like clockwork any more.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: The Code

[David Risner]

I found it very meh. If you don't have anything else to watch, ok, but
there's so much better stuff out there.

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 6:27 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> CBS rebooted JAG.
>
> Pilot free on iTunes
>
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/the-code-season-1/id1455603562
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Re: [TV orNotTV] DirecTV May Lose Tons of Channels

[David Risner]

Verizon sent me an email saying that I would get to see the latest Jersey Shore 
show. I just LOLed.

My child will be unhappy about losing Nick, but she gets a lot of what she 
wants from streaming services anyway. 



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> On Mar 21, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
> 
> So far, the most hilarious thing about the situation is that Viacom is 
> running "your satellite provider may be dropping this channel soon" graphics 
> on their channels on DirecTV -- and each time one appears, DirecTV has been 
> covering it up with a black bar, which they have to do manually, so there's a 
> couple seconds each time when the message is visible. I'm sure DirecTV's 
> master control operators are having a fun time. The problem from my 
> perspective is that it covers up the lower-third graphics on "The Daily Show."
> 
> Yes, apparently Viacom has the capability to run the message only on the 
> channel receiver/descramblers that reside at DirecTV.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com
> To:"TV or not TV" 
> Cc:
> Sent:Thu, 21 Mar 2019 16:41:49 -0400
> Subject:Re: [TV orNotTV] DirecTV May Lose Tons of Channels
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 9:33 AM  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Viacom has already started doing ad drops (I know this because they've 
>> played in between Words with Friends games on my AT phone). 
>> 
>> History doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes; AT will follow with their ad 
>> drops. The two sides will come to an 11th hour agreement. Your bill will go 
>> up. 
>> 
>> Sometimes the best move is not to play.
> 
> It seems like every few months there's this game of chicken between a 
> behemoth media company and a cable/satellite/telco company over carriage 
> rights. I don't wish the tension on any subscriber who fears losing access to 
> favorite shows and it always seems that an agreement comes through in the 
> end. I am starting to wonder, however, as the media companies adapt to 
> reality with cord cutters, if one of these disputes goes toxic and they don't 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: So who is more Catholic on FOX News?

[David Risner]

They could be Episcopal / Anglican. They do the ashes too. I think some 
Lutheran churches do as well. 

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> On Mar 6, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> Brett Baier and Martha MacCallum both had Ash Wednesday ashes on their 
> foreheads tonight  
> So thats Ingraham, Hannity, Baier and MacCallum who are Catholics. 
> Interesting. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:15 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>> Laura Ingraham has ashes on her forehead tonight from Ash Wednesday. Sean 
>> Hannity does not. Both are Catholics.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On a more serious note, Geraldo Rivera apparently "blindsided" Hannity by 
>> calling for gun control on FOX News.
>> 
>> Link
>> ​
>> ​
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Pause-vertising" heading to AT, Hulu

[David Risner]

They need to not have any audio. Usually, when I pause a video on the TV,
it's so I can take a phone call or someone is at the door or my
mother-in-law is blabbing on-and-on. Either way, having an ad with audio
would defeat the purpose.

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On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 8:27 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Variety
> <https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/pause-advertising-hulu-att-streaming-commercials-1203079321/>
> (link): Yes, it's finally been perfected... and will start appearing next
> year... commercials that run when you hit 'pause' on a streaming viewing...
>
> Just don't keep running and running and running them like on some websites
> I (try to) read...
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Luke Cage canceled

[David Risner]

I watched the first season of both, but I haven’t watched the second season of 
either yet. 

I am usually pretty far behind on my Netflix / Hulu / Amazon Prime watching 
though. 

-- David 

> On Oct 20, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> I'm curious if anyone in this group actually watched. "Iron Fist" getting 
> cancelled was no big surprise. I didn't watch "Luke Cage" but it seemed to 
> have a lot more going for it. Maybe that's the problem. People respected it 
> but didn't watch.
> 
> Marvel universe a slice smaller with Cage cancellation
> 
> By The Associated Press
>   
> The Marvel universe just got a slice smaller on Netflix with the cancellation 
> of "Marvel's Luke Cage" after two seasons.
>   
> The news Friday surprised fans and came a few weeks after Netflix axed 
> another live-action Marvel series, "Iron Fist." Both are part of The 
> Defenders world.
>   
> Netflix didn't explain the Cage cancellation in a joint statement with 
> Marvel. They thanked creators, cast and crew - and fans of the Harlem Hero. 
> An email request for additional comment from Netflix was not immediately 
> returned Saturday.
>   
> The Cage series made a splash when it was released because it featured a rare 
> black superhero in a standalone vehicle. Mike Colter starred as the 
> bullet-proof hero for hire. The second season dropped in June.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Unusual weather channel graphics?

[David Risner]

That’s pretty much what I do. I hope to watch them just fly off into the sky.

-- David 

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 8:26 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:10 PM David Risner  wrote:
>> They did this last year with the one that just missed Miami. I’m kind of a 
>> Weather Channel junkie when it comes to hurricanes.
> 
> I’ve been watching it off and on today in the hospital waiting room. I don’t 
> know who the idiot is standing in the 50+ mph winds tonight, but I guiltily 
> am rooting for the winds. 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- David 
>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 5:53 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m just gonna say this: That was totally hot 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:43 PM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>>>> Better this than the inevitable "reporting from outdoors when anybody with 
>>>> any sense wouldn't be here" setups.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 8:15 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>>>>> This isn't common place is it? Looks pretty fancy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> LINK
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Unusual weather channel graphics?

[David Risner]

They did this last year with the one that just missed Miami. I’m kind of a 
Weather Channel junkie when it comes to hurricanes.

-- David 

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 5:53 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> I’m just gonna say this: That was totally hot 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:43 PM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>> Better this than the inevitable "reporting from outdoors when anybody with 
>> any sense wouldn't be here" setups.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 8:15 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>>> This isn't common place is it? Looks pretty fancy.
>>> 
>>> LINK
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Joel McHale gets Netflix talker

[David Risner]

I've found the first two episodes entertaining. We'll have to see if he can
keep it up or if he's used the best material already. I'm very concerned
that it's the latter.


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On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:23 AM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Adam Bowie, to moi, today (2/18):
>>
>> This is basically... well exactly... The Soup, but with swearing. But
>> then I kinda liked The Soup.
>>
>>
>> He tries to point out the differences (the screen is "forest green,"
> f'rinstance) to Liz Wagmeister of Variety
> <http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/joel-mchale-netflix-the-soup-kardashians-1202703364/>
> (link) (who will likely also snark about it soon on "Page Six TV")
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Holy marketing tie-in, Batman!

[David Risner]

Too bad it’s a very rainy day for the first time in 11 months here in SoCal.

— David

> On Jan 8, 2018, at 9:19 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> Tomorrow (Tuesday) at 1pm, Burt Ward (and the Batmobile) will be at Pink's 
> Hot Dogs for the unveiling of the "Robin Dog."
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/events/1804166652961858/ 
> 
> 
> The jokes write themselves.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] #Napafire (NotTV)

[David Risner]

This video of a neighborhood after the fire had gone through is pretty
chilling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCvtBCx042E


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On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Steve Timko <steveti...@gmail.com> wrote:

> They may do NASCAR racing at Sonoma but they are internationally known for
> their drag racing.
>
> Not sent from an iPhone.
> On Oct 12, 2017, at 11:06 AM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Doug Eastick, Wed. (11):
>>>
>>> PGage - my fingers are crossed for you, your property, and everyone in
>>> that area.   Please give us an update (when you can).
>>>
>>> I spent some time in Sonoma in 2013 and a day trip to Napa Valley, and
>>> Santa Rosa.  I can't even imagine what it looks like to you now.
>>>
>>> If you care:
>>
>> The "dog trainer" remarked (again?) how vineyards appear to be surprisingly
>> immune to wildfires
>> <http://beta.latimes.com/business/la-fi-vineyards-firebreak-20171012-story.html#nt=oft06a-1li2>...
>> (link; h/t KTLA)
>>
>> NASCAR venue Sonoma Raceway
>> <https://twitter.com/RaceSonoma/status/918513858142023680> tweeted
>> (again?) that its campground is open to evacuees...  I figured that track
>> was relatively close to the ocean/bay, but the photo puts that in proper
>> perspective, I think...
>>
>> B
>>
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: The Orville

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I thought it was ok for a pilot. It set things up to possibly be
interesting in the upcoming episodes. Pilots, in general, but especially of
SF shows are notoriously boring while they setup the world for you.

I'm giving it three more episodes before I decide yea or nay.


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On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Steve Timko <steveti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I haven't finished the pilot yet but it seems meh. It seems too nice.
>> They need McFarlane or his ex wife to be nastier. Plus I already saw the
>> best jokes in the previews. The CGI looks great. The special effect where
>> the security officer jumps a long distance looks like high school sophomore
>> visual arts class. No characters have a breakout moment in the pilot.
>> I'm a McFarlane fan. I am not ready to write off the show yet.
>>
>> On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:05 PM, "Kevin M." <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Pilot is free on iTunes... it so desperately wants to be Galaxy Quest,
>>> but it isn't even Quark.
>>>
>>
>  I posted my quickie review early yesterday and found out this morning
> that Google considers it spam and a moderator has to approve it - which
> would be me, the original sender. So it may show up later today or
> tomorrow. I think the term that got it caught in the spam catcher was ST,
> which I spelled out.
>
> I did not read about the show, or read interviews with the cast, or watch
> preview videos about the show. From what I saw Sunday night I had no idea
> it was supposed to be a comedy. There is value in having humor in a drama
> and I thought that was what they were aiming for. The problem with the show
> for me is that it suffers from an utter lack of imagination. Science
> fiction lets writers and production designers break all limits and go off
> in new directions. The Orville did none of that. It is stuck in a ST
> template. If it is supposed to be a ST spoof it completely fails.
>
> The CGI looked lovely, especially because my 2009 A/D converter box failed
> recently, and I now have an HDTV. Stuff like the special effects on The
> Orville really popped. But it was the pilot and pilots have more lead time
> and bigger budgets than regular episodes. Future episodes will probably
> have more dialogue and fewer effects.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SoCal anchor MIA

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And the CBS TV station retweeted this to Twitter announcing his retirement:

https://twitter.com/NewsJuan/status/847211125775007744


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On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Magers has resurfaced on Twitter!
>
> https://twitter.com/paulmagers/status/843633283883663361
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Steve Timko <steveti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In Reno the weatherman for the NBC affiliate was gone for more than a
>> month without explanation and when he returned he was rail thin.
>>
>> Not sent from an iPhone.
>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Henry Fung <calwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Or the health of a family member, as generally FMLA leave is very
>>> closely held, as it should. I have no idea exactly how old Magers's parents
>>> are but if they are still alive, they are of the age where it is likely
>>> they would need intensive assistance.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Paul Magers anchors the news in LA on both KCBS and KCAL, but not for
>>>>> over a month. He's also normally an avid Twitter user, but not for over a
>>>>> month. As someone who has not only interviewed Magers but looks forward to
>>>>> his running commentary on high speed pursuits, I'm concerned for the guy.
>>>>> He's missed an entire sweeps period. The only thing I can guess, and it is
>>>>> just a guess, is he took some time to be with his brother who recently
>>>>> retired as an anchorman in Chicago, but it is darned unusual for a lead
>>>>> anchor to be gone this long.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2017/02/mid_week_media_notes.php
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With the paucity of evidence I hesitate to speculate, but I would
>>>> speculate he has a health issue and would prefer to deal with it privately.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] MacGyver Hawaii 5-0 crossover

[David Risner]

That was my exact thought too Kevin.


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On Mar 10, 2017 8:43 PM, "Kevin M."  wrote:

> MacGyver is still on the air?
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:32 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>> I was a little surprised that the story wasn't continued from the Mac
>> episode into the 5-0 episode.  Not that it's required, but these exercises
>> usually try to maximize synergy by having characters on each show appearing
>> on the other.
>>
>> David
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>> *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2017 11:12 PM
>> *Subject:* [TV orNotTV] MacGyver Hawaii 5-0 crossover
>>
>> That bullet shown in the opening sequence is one slow ass bullet.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Weekend syndication- is it dying?

[David Risner]

B5 was part of Prime Time Entertainment Network for it’s first four seasons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Time_Entertainment_Network 


Wikipedia shows their series as being:
Babylon 5  (February 22, 1993, as a 
made-for-TV movie; January 26, 1994 – October 27, 1997, as a weekly series)
Kung Fu: The Legend Continues 
 (January 27, 1993 
– January 1, 1997)
Pointman  (January 24, 1994, as a 
made-for-TV movie; January 26–November 27, 1995, as a series)
Time Trax  (January 20, 1993 – 
December 3, 1994)


> On Jan 9, 2017, at 6:04 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> Two of the Star Trek spinoffs - The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine - 
> were big syndication hits, though not strictly weekend shows (when I lived in 
> Portland, Deep Space Nine was usually on during the week).  Arguably TNG made 
> it easier for the New Zealand shows (Tarzan, Xena and others) to hit big as 
> well.
> 
> Babylon 5 was part of a syndication network of sorts, but I'm hazy on what 
> the other programs were.
> 
> David
> 
> From: daniel anderson 
> To: TVorNotTV  
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 8:49 PM
> Subject: [TV orNotTV] Weekend syndication- is it dying?
> 
> There was at one point several good weekend syndie shows- Star Search, 
> American Gladiators, the WWF's syndie shows, Hee Haw, Lawrence Welk, and am i 
> missing any other weekend syndie hits?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Whatever happened to Glenn Beck?

[David Risner]

He had a guest column in the NY Times a week or so ago where he actually
didn't sound crazy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/07/opinion/glenn-beck-empathy-for-black-lives-matter.html?_r=0

I don't know if he was trying to get more listeners by appealing to those
who are not his regular listeners or what. Having listened to some clips
from his show, I think more moderately minded folks would be scared off
pretty quickly.



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On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Mark Jeffries <spotligh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The audiences are aging and the alt-right crowd (which is more Gen-X than
>> Millennial) is more into Breitbart and Reddit than radio.  It's very uphill
>> for news-talk radio right now.
>>
>
> There was a lot to think about in that article and I think everybody's
> comments so far are correct. I also think that the main point is that Beck
> scaled up too quickly and burned through his investment money. I don't know
> if he saw what happened with Howard Stern and thought he could replicate it
> but starting all those new businesses at once and keeping them going has to
> be a daunting task.
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[TV orNotTV] Star Trek Discovery launch date

[David Risner]

A bunch of y'all probably got this email as well, but Star Trek: Discover
now has a launch date of May 2017.

I believe it was previously announced that it would be in January.

http://www.startrek.com/article/new-discovery-launch-date-may-2017

Still don't know if I'm going to pay for CBS All Access just for this show.
Maybe I'll do like I do with HBO and Game of Thrones: wait until it's
almost over for the season, sign up for HBO, watch it all on HBO Go, and
then cancel HBO.


-- David

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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'British Bake-Off' Leaving Beeb for C4

[David Risner]

I believe the season currently running on BBC1 is the seventh season, as the 
sixth season just finished running on PBS here in the states a few weeks ago.

Hard to imagine the show continuing without Paul & Mary. I can see it without 
Sue & Mel, although I would rather not. Having watched some of the Australian 
version which doesn’t have Paul & Mary, I would really hate to see them go. It 
just wouldn’t be the same show.

I wonder if BBC can reconstitute the show with Sue, Mel, Paul, and Mary with a 
slightly different format and, of course, a different name.

I remember Bravo trying to make a replacement for Project Runway when it jumped 
ship to Lifetime. It didn’t work too well, but it also didn’t have any of the 
PR cast of judges and hosts.


> On Sep 13, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> "The Great British Bake-Off," or as it's called on PBS, "The Great British 
> Baking Show," the world's most civil reality show, will move next year from 
> the Beeb's primary network BBC1 to Channel 4, the 
> commercial-but-not-for-profit net that hasn't had a reality hit since "Big 
> Brother" moved to Channel 5 a few years ago--the current sixth season is 
> running on the One right now:
> 
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bbc-lose-british-bake-927930
> 
> Snarky-yet-civil hosts Sue Perkins and Mel Giedroyc want the show to stay on 
> the Beeb and have already announced that they will not move with the show to 
> C4.  It is rumoured that judges Paul Hollywood and Mary Berry are also 
> against the network switch, which may leave producers Love Productions to 
> find a whole new cast.  (Meanwhile, Union Jack, the digital radio station 
> created by a bunch of Adam's former mates at Absolute Radio for the owners of 
> the Jack FM franchise in the UK, which plays nothing but music by British 
> artists, boasts on its web site that it is "more British than Mary Berry's 
> soggy bottoms."  If you watch the show, you'll get it.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Say Goodbye to Cable Box (and Pay More Money)

[David Risner]

Or an app just built into your smart tv. So many of them have apps now.


-- David


> On Sep 10, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The article is telling in so many ways.
>> 
>> An app is, obviously, at the mercy of the cellular networks (even with the 
>> increased spectrum being swiped from TV)
> 
> Apps are not only on cell phones -- I think the FCC's vision is that you 
> would run the "Comcast Xfinity" or "Charter Spectrum" app on your Roku box, 
> Apple TV, Google Chromecast, Amazon Fire stick, etc., where it would live 
> alongside Netflix, Hulu, and so on.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Life in Pieces

[David Risner]

Hmmm. I tried it for a few episodes. I just couldn't get into it. 

The sitcom from last season I really liked was The Real O'Neals. Really 
surprised it got renewed since I liked it.  


-- David

> On Sep 2, 2016, at 8:04 PM,   wrote:
> 
> Absolutely my favorite rookie show last year.  Zoe Lister-Jones, as Colin 
> Hanks' wife, has the deadpan sarcasm delivery down cold.  Hilarious stuff.
> 
> Doug Fields
> Tampa, FL
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: [TV orNotTV] Life in Pieces
> From: Doug Eastick 
> Date: Fri, September 02, 2016 10:08 pm
> To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com
> 
> If you like modern  family , and you haven't watched this series  you 
> should watch it.  It's funny. 
> 
> 
> And of you don't like modern family, give it a try anyway. 
> 
> If you can't find Life in pieces online, leg me know. I have the whole 
> first season downloaded. 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The full DWTS lineup

[David Risner]

I’ve never even watched the show, but I’m guessing Rick Perry is the 
sacrificial first one to get booted character. I’m guessing that Jana Kramer 
and Calvin Johnson will be finalists with Laurie Hernandez being the dark 
horse. Do they ever have two women as the finalists or do they always work it 
out so it’s a male and a female character at the end?


> On Aug 30, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> 
> 
> With their partners...
> 
> You know about the two Olympians...
> 
> Ryan Lochte (Cheryl)
> Laurie Hernandez (Val C)
> 
> Former Texas Governor / Presidential candidate...
> 
> Rick Perry (Emma)
> 
> The ex-Brady is confirmed...
> 
> Maureen McCormick (Artem)
> 
> Former Ford model and frequent paparazzi subject...
> 
> Amber Rose (Maks)
> 
> NFL veteran...
> 
> Calvin Johnson jnr. (Lindsay)
> 
> Well-known young TV and film star and voiceover talent...
> 
> Jake T. Austin (Jenna Johnson)
> 
> IndyCar driver who's experienced tragedy and triumph...
> 
> James Hinchcliffe (Sharna)
> 
> Popular country singer (and former costar of "One Tree Hill")...
> 
> Jana Kramer (Gleb Savchenko)
> 
> Grammy-winning R singer, songwriter and producer...
> 
> Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds (Allison Holker)
> 
> Longtime actress, sometime talk-show host, pioneering Internet entrepreneur...
> 
> Marilu Henner (Derek H)
> 
> 4-foot-2 star/exec of Lifetime's "Little Women" shows...
> 
> Terra Jolé (Sasha Farber)
> 
> And the one and only Vanilla Ice...
> 
> Robert Van Winkle (Witney)
> 
> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] UNI Takes Over Gawker Media

[David Risner]

I disagree that what Gawker practiced was journalism. 

Outing people, acquiring and distributing sex tapes, playing fast and loose 
with rumors, and just generally ruining people's lives is not what I would 
consider journalism.

They got what they deserved. They played dirty and it came back to bite them. 

Note that the other properties in the portfolio which have not been so quick to 
cross the line into unethical behavior will still be around. 

-- David

> On Aug 18, 2016, at 10:18 AM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> 
> And it's official:
> 
> http://gawker.com/gawker-com-to-end-operations-next-week-1785455712
> 
> I cannot stress this enough, and I know you don't give a shit, Kevin, because 
> you can't see the forest for the damned trees, but this is as chilling an 
> ending as you could possibly have. Peter Thiel won. Journalism lost.
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 12:04 PM  wrote:
>> 
>>  "Kevin M."  wrote:
>> > Not exactly a prestige purchase for Uni
>> 
>> Perhaps more "not prestige" than you think.
>> 
>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/univision-plans-to-shut-down-gawker-com-1471539451
>> 
>> "Shut it down. Shut it ALL down."
>> 
>> ~D
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 9/11/01 what did you watch?

[David Risner]

I was watching Bear in the Big Blue House with my daughter when a friend called 
up to tell me what was happening. Watched the coverage for about an hour while 
my daughter napped and then it was back to kids shows. 


-- David

> On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:11 PM, daniel anderson  
> wrote:
> 
> I got tried of all the news coverage on 9/11/01 that i watched some other 
> shows. My mom actually tuned out the news coverage to watch Soapnet, which 
> had reruns of  "Sisters" and "Knots Landing"  instead. i did that too, but 
> watched the game shows on Game Show Network too. did anyone of you do that on 
> 9/11/01 find something else to watch?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC's Unforgivable Sin [Was: I tried watching the Olympics...]

[David Risner]

I believe it will be on USA network. That's what they didn't last week at 
least. 


-- David

> On Aug 16, 2016, at 6:10 PM, daniel anderson  
> wrote:
> 
> I wonder how NBCSN will handle the NASCAR race from Bristol on Saturday 
> Night? that might conflict with the "Dream Team"
> 
>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 1:04:57 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 9:35 PM, David Lynch  wrote:
>>> One interesting thing from tonight: the medal round for men's team 
>>> gymnastics, normally a marquee event, didn't start airing until well after 
>>> 11:00 ET and was partly pushed to late night. Of course, it was kind of 
>>> obvious from the way they covered what we saw that there wasn't a comeback 
>>> from the early stumbles that made it into the prime time show (i.e., there 
>>> were neither leaderboards at any point nor any coverage of any of the other 
>>> teams.)
>> 
>> I had to pull this out for special comment, because I thought what NBC did 
>> with the Men's Team Gymnastics illustrates the worst abuse of their prime 
>> time tape delay policy. NBC has embraced the fuzzy line between sports, 
>> entertainment and profit in their Olympic package, and I am willing to cut 
>> them some slack, given how much they spend both on the rights and on the 
>> production. But if they do not honor some basic rules about sports, then the 
>> Olympics become a joke; they become not just a reality show like "Survivor", 
>> but junk TV like "Battle of the Network Stars".
>> 
>> We know Men's Gymnastics does not have the appeal the Women's Gymnastics 
>> have, but it still is a a prime time event, and I have to believe that NBC's 
>> initial plan was to cover it in prime time. They obviously chose not to (at 
>> least, not very much of it) once they saw that the US team did not do very 
>> well. This is ridiculous, first because it just violates what to me is 
>> fundamental about sports: you don't know the end from the beginning. Your 
>> team may win or lose, the game may be close or a blowout. More than that, 
>> while the US did not do well, the event itself was very interesting, with 
>> lots of movement and dramatic stories. For a little while it looked like the 
>> home team Brazil might finish in the medals; Japan came from way behind to 
>> win the Gold - led by what most experts call the greatest male gymnast in 
>> history; Russia got Silver after a lot of frustration. China came from as 
>> far back as the US to get the Bronze. And the US, dead last after the first 
>> round, actually make it interesting for a little while and looked like they 
>> might make the podium. 
>> 
>> In other words, it was not a case of the event not being competitive (for 
>> many years networks might switch from one NFL game to another near the end 
>> if it was a blowout; this was not like that). The event was very 
>> competitive, and interesting, with lots of great story lines. It was a case 
>> of NBC making the cynical calculation that the US not making the podium was 
>> a downer of a story that might turn viewers off to the whole Olympic vibe. 
>> It was the application of Trumpism to television sports coverage - an effort 
>> to "make America great again" by only showing half naked US swimmers and 
>> beach volleyball players pounding foreigners, and denying any facts that 
>> might make Americans feel bad about themselves.
>> 
>> NBC's ratings for this Olympics (which, overall, so far I am enjoying) are 
>> way down. Most of that probably is due to what has been observed here 
>> already - a critical mass of Americans live much of their lives every day 
>> online and already know the results when the primetime show comes on. Again, 
>> NBC really should show the events live on cable, and then do their primetime 
>> show like a modern, daily "Wide World of Sports".
>> 
>> But I suspect part of the problem is the utter contempt with which NBC holds 
>> its own viewers. Women may be its core demo, and a larger fraction of women 
>> may not be traditional sports fans, but women are not morons, and do not 
>> need to be treated like they can only watch Lifetime soap opera movies. This 
>> is what an NBC executive had to say:
>> 
>> "The people who watch the Olympics are not particularly sports fans. More 
>> women watch the [Olympic] games than men, and for the women, they're less 
>> interested in the result and more interested in the journey. It's sort of 
>> like the ultimate reality show and mini-series wrapped into one." 
>> 
>> That is some serious sexist bullshit, and I think NBC is paying for it in 
>> their ratings.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] No RDA in the MacGyver reboot

[David Risner]

Exactly.

On Jul 27, 2016 7:38 PM, "Kevin M."  wrote:

> I suspect he'll react to it roughly the same way the rest of us SG1 fans
> will react to it: with a resounding "meh"
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Jay Lewis  wrote:
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>> Holy hell...I wonder how he'll react to the Stargate reboot?
>>
>> On 7/27/2016 5:13 PM, Kevin M. wrote:
>>
>> From Richard Dean Anderson's webpage:
>>
>> "
>>
>>
>>
>> *So many people have responded to the attempted "reboot" of the MacGyver
>> franchise, and a lot of people have asked me if I'm going to be in the new
>> show, or am I going to produce it, or, yada. And all I can say is, I'm not
>> considering being a part of a project that has overlooked the insanely
>> LOYAL FANS of the original character and has proceeded without considering
>> how and why they all became and STAYED loyal fans... Yes, I was asked, but
>> no, I won't be involved in the MacGyver reboot. I have tried to recognize
>> that there really is a balance to be found here. Hence, my loyalty to my
>> fans.*"
>>
>> http://rdanderson.com/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: IYC: CW fall

[David Risner]

Syfy has been adding more sci-fi, but if you count superhero as sci-fi,
then it could be.

Just plug Syfy a little: The Expanse on Syfy is _really_ good. They're
currently in production for season 2.

Z Nation is a good zombie series, not as dark as some others. First 2
seasons are on Netflix.

Killjoys and Dark Matter are both OK space opera kind of science fiction.
Not high budget, but fun kind of stuff.

But definitely, if you like sci-fi, you should watch The Expanse.




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On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:32 PM, M-D November <mdnovem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is it my imagination, or does the CW run more science fiction/fantasy than
> SyFy at this point?  (For that matter, I can't even remember the last time
> I watched SyFy...possibly the Warehouse 13 finale...?)
>
> Supergirl will thrive in the CW Berlantiverse, although it sucks to see
> Crazy Ex-Girlfriend moved to the Friday Night Death Slot; I haven't watched
> it myself, but I've heard good things (and I've thoroughly enjoyed some of
> the songs I've seen on YouTube).  I'd say maybe it's time for the CW to
> expand to a 6th night, but I know that would disrupt a lot of local
> baseball packages.
>
> On Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 1:58:20 PM UTC-4, Bob Jersey wrote:
>>
>>
>> From Variety
>> <http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/supergirl-the-flash-cw-fall-2016-schedule-1201778575/>
>> (link), all times east/west:
>>
>> Monday
>> 8:00 Supergirl (relocated from CBS)
>> 9:00 Jane the Virgin
>> Tuesday
>> 8:00 The Flash
>> 9:00 NO TOMORROW
>> Rom-com with a character convinced the apocalypse is coming.
>> Wednesday
>> 8:00 Arrow
>> 9:00 FREQUENCY
>> Redux of the 2000 film where a New York cop 20 years in the past
>> communicates seemingly through a ham radio with his daughter in the present.
>> Thursday
>> 8:00 DC's Legends of Tomorrow
>> 9:00 Supernatural (new night)
>> Friday
>> 8:00 Vampire Diaries
>> 9:00 Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (new night)
>>
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Anyone want to help "Supergirl" move?

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When Buffy moved, didn't Roswell move with it as well?

Does going from WB to CW count? Probably not since that was more of a
rename than anything else, but Supernatural survived that change.

And if we're counting moves to TNT, there was Babylon 5 moving from PTEN to
TNT.



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On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:52 PM, M-D November <mdnovem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> JAG (NBC to CBS)
> Different Strokes (NBC to ABC)
> WWE Smackdown (UPN to CW to MyNet to SyFy to USA)
> Sabrina [The Teenage Witch] (ABC to WB)
> Buffy the Vampire Slayer (WB to UPN)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Rest in Peace, Ed Dravecky

[David Risner]

Thank you for finding that, Jay. Hopefully the money to take care of the
funeral will make this a little less painful for his family.

Ed will be missed here for sure. Being a sci-fi fan myself, although not of
Ed's proportions, I looked forward to seeing his comments about sci-fi
projects.

I'm 48 too, Doug; scary to see someone whom I would consider so young die.



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On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Jay Lewis <lew...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> Terrible, awful news. Condolences to Ed's family.
>
> I was looking for an on-line "guest book" where people might like to leave
> messages for his family and found a site  asking for donations relating to
> Ed's funeral and travel back to Huntsville.
>
> They've hit their (very modest IMO) goal but I figured I'd pass it along
> if any one here might like to kick in a buck or two.
>
> https://pages.giveforward.com/remembrance/page-h3qs533/
>
> Full disclosure...I don't have anything to do with this and I can't verify
> it. However, it looks to be on the up & up.
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] JMS "Red Mars" series greenlighted on Spike

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That was my thought too. Maybe he doesn't have the time for it.

> On Mar 25, 2016, at 7:34 PM, PGage  wrote:
> 
> Crap.
> 
> But it looks like Straczynski will still be part of it? Why can't he run the 
> thing?
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
>> Aand "Red Mars" is on hold as Spike searches for a new showrunner
>> 
>> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/spike-puts-scripted-series-red-878457
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:44 AM, PGage  wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Kevin M.  wrote:
 Based on the Red Mars trilogy of novels about the colonization of the red 
 planet. It is an anthology series with a large story arc set in the world 
 of science fiction... in short it is what JMS is best at. 
 
 http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/red-mars-spike-series-order-1201656112/
>>> 
>>> Just love this trilogy and very much looking forward to the series. Looks 
>>> like the first ten episodes are just on Red Mars (Book 1). I am glad they 
>>> are not trying to condense that book into one or two movies, but I am 
>>> hoping it is successful enough to do all three books. With the pedigree of 
>>> the people involved I am very optimistic.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Hurry! "Justified" complete on special at Amazon

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Ultraviolet means it has online access as well through an app that can access 
Ultraviolet, like Flixster.

More info:

http://www.cnet.com/news/ultraviolet-everything-you-need-to-know/ 




> On Nov 9, 2015, at 7:39 AM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> UV  used to mean a limited number of plays. That isn't what this is, is it?
> 
> Sent from TypeMail 
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> On Nov 8, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Bob Jersey .jer...@juno.com 
> target=_blank>bob.in .jer...@juno.com> wrote:
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> BluRay/UltraViolet (a protected digital format, I guess...) $75, DVD $50. 
> Ends overnight 
> 
>  (link).
> 
> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] the next time you see Trevor Noah

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Thanks to being able to do these things laparoscopically nowadays, recovery 
times are must shorter.

— David

> On Nov 4, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
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> Supposedly, after an appendix operation you can return to work the next day 
> for limited amounts of time--like 21 minutes of television.
> 
> Mark Jeffries
> Saints Spotlight Editor
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> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Adam Bowie  > wrote:
> Is returning to work the day after such surgery usual? That feels very fast!
> 
> Adam
> 
> On 4 Nov 2015 20:55, "Jon Delfin"  > wrote:
> ... he'll be down one appendix. It won't be tonight.
> 
> http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/trevor-noah-appendectomy-daily-show-1201633512/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Muppets

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I quite enjoyed the show as well. I was pleasantly surprised after seeing
it panned by some critics. I fully expected to be disappointed.


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On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Joe Hass <hassgoc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I literally spent the entire summer thinking to myself, "Okay, do not be
> disappointed in the first show, because your expectations are at
> Kilimanjaro-levels right now". I thoroughly enjoyed it (as a Garfunkel &
> Oates fan, having Riki Lindhome replacing whomever was Fozzie's girlfriend
> most definitely did not hurt), though as one reviewer noted, Denise is
> awfully plain, which doesn't really help.
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:31 PM, Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I need to pause and note the technical achievements this series made
>>> compared to the original show. I don't know if, as they did with the recent
>>> Muppet movies, they used CGI to remove some of the poles and wires used to
>>> articulate the Muppets, but they felt and ping-pong balls were very
>>> lifelike to me.
>>>
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> The wardrobe person walking by with a lint roller was an excellent gag.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Sesame Street Moves To HBO

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They have a channel HBO Family which has a bunch of original programming
plus family movies. Most of the original programming was produced quite
some time ago though. I would suspect that Sesame Street would mostly run
on this channel.


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On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 There is an HBO Family channel, which limits movie/original programming to
 TV14/PG13-level (roughly 12A equivalent) films. That may be where Sesame
 Street is specifically headed.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:10, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote:

 Excuse my ignorance, but does HBO actually do much in the way of kids TV
 at the moment?

 And is there a chance an inattentive parent might leave the TV tuned into
 HBO from Sesame Street into a daytime rerun of Game of Thrones or something?

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Joe Coughlin inturnaro...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I think it's what's called a win-win. Public and Premium partnership.

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:
  A five-season deal where HBO gets exclusive rights to the new shows for
 nine
  months, then PBS gets it for free. HBO also licenses 150 old episodes to
  fill in gaps as the new season launches. The same goes with digital
 rights:
  PBS holds onto the old episodes; HBO gets the digital rights with the
 new
  ones for the nine months, then PBS gets them as well.
 
 
 http://www.sesameworkshop.org/press-releases/sesame-workshop-and-hbo-announce-partnership/
 
  As someone who's just dived back into this world with my almost
 two-year-old
  (he's both an Elmo and Abby fan), I'm really torn about this. I mean I
 get
  it, it fundamentally supports one of the greatest children's television
  shows ever, but this just seems so very, very wrong.
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] TNT or Comcast PGA West Coast Time Problem?

[David Risner]

My TiVo shows 11am-5pm. I'm on Time Warner Cable in SoCal. TiVo might not
get it's data from the same place as TWC, but the TWC TV app shows 11am-5pm
as well.

Doesn't Comcast have an XFinity app that shows live TV that you could look
at its guide? It might give you a clue at least as to if Comcast knew and
just didn't push the update out to the DVRs or not.


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On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:08 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Last night I set my DVR to record the first round of the PGA Tournament
 today. It is being played in Wisconsin, and TNT had it listed as running
 from 2:00 pm to 8:00 pm, my time (California). This just did not sound
 right to me, and sure enough when I checked the PGA website, those were the
 eastern time zone times. I waited till after midnight and checked again, in
 case this was when they updated their listings, still no change. I went
 ahead and set my recording for Supernatural (whatever that is), the
 program TNT listed as starting at 11:00 am my time, and then padded it two
 hours to reach till 2:00, then recorded the 2:00 pm PGA still listed. This
 worked fine, and I have been watching the tournament while doing my work
 this morning and afternoon. It is now after 2:00 pm PT, and TNT never did
 change their listings. If I had not been paying close attention, I would
 have been screwed.

 I realize that Comcast just gives us the ET TNT feed, but I don't remember
 this problem when I am recording NBA games - if the Lakers are scheduled to
 play a 7:00 pm game in Los Angeles, even though that is 10:00 pm in NY, on
 my listing it says that the game starts at 7:00. Is this a problem on TNT's
 end, or something that Comcast is not doing right?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] If 'a la carte' happened today...

[David Risner]

I’ve thought about doing this so many times. If I didn’t have my mother-in-law 
living with us, I probably would’ve by now, but it would all be too confusing 
for her. 

I would need to put a good antenna in my attic (we’re not allowed to have them 
on the roof), my TiVos would record OTA broadcasts and I could use Hulu, 
Netflix, and Amazon to fill in what I miss. I’m just not sure it would come out 
cheaper as we watch quite a few cable shows (especially Syfy, HGTV, and Food 
Network).




 On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:09 PM, K.M. Richards richard...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I solved the entire dilemma.  I cancelled my DirecTV on Monday.
 
 I should point out that I live just under 25 miles away from Mount Wilson, 
 from which virtually all broadcast television service -- excluding some LPTVs 
 -- transmits, and I get great reception even though I am using the ancient 
 antenna which is mounted in the attic of my apartment building.  (I mean 
 ancient as in it was already there when I moved in back in 1994, has not been 
 replaced since, and no one at the property management company knows when it 
 was originally installed. It might have been there when Newton Minow made his 
 vast wasteland speech, for all I know.)
 
 Anyway, excluding a whole bunch of foreign language, religious, and home 
 shopping channels which I never watch, here's what I get with the antenna:
 
 All the traditional broadcast networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CW) from OOs, 
 plus the all-rerun networks MyNet and ION.
 Two traditional English-language independents and one non-commercial indie 
 (KCET, which has the English-language feed of NHK on one of its subchannels).
 Two PBS stations, one of which also runs PBS World (the other is owned by the 
 L.A. Unified School District and uses its subchannels for instructional 
 programming and WorldView.
 Classic television channels Antenna TV, Cozi, Decades, Laff. MeTV and Retro 
 (plus the all-classic game show channel Buzzr).
 Movie channels This, Movies!, GetTV, Escape, Grit, and The Works.  I'm not 
 sure where to classify Bounce anymore as they moved all the reruns to daytime 
 and are all-movies at night now.
 
 30 channels.  No monthly bill.
 
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Charter next in line for attempt at TWC

[David Risner]

Apparently, Charter has even worse customer service that TWC or Comcast.
Makes me, as a TWC subscriber, feel all warm inside.



-- 
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On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote:

 It's much smaller than its target (6mil customers v 15mil), and is
 offering nearly $10bil more than Comcast did. Charter's current acquisition
 plans for Bright House have no bearing on a TWC grab, and FCC chair Wheeler
 assured the firms they won't quash any deal...

 Bloomberg
 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-25/charter-said-to-near-deal-for-time-warner-cable-at-195-a-share
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Full House spinoff courts Netflix

[David Risner]

Just wondering: is Candace, trying to find a nice way to put this, as far into 
the extreme right wing Christianity as her brother is? 

Just wondering, if she is, how much this would affect the show.



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 Over two years after Yahoo 
 https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/a--full-house--reunionwith-two-vacancies.html
  (link) reported on a mostly-reunion of the cast, the streaming provider was 
 recently pitched a sequel built around daughter DJ, with her original TV dad 
 and his two buds making occasional appearances... creator Franklin and 
 co-execs Miller and Boyett return to produce... TheWrap 
 http://www.thewrap.com/full-house-spinoff-series-being-eyed-at-netflix/ 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick review: The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt (no spoilers)

[David Risner]

Just finished this. Really good show. The first two and the last two episodes, 
IMHO, are not as good as the ones in the middle, but once I got going on it, I 
couldn’t stop watching the episodes.

Luckily, my gym has wifi, so I watched a lot of them on my phone while doing 
the elliptical.


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 Thank God NBC passed on “The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt” and we got a full 
 13-episode order from Netflix. The show is too good and too smart to attract 
 an audience on NBC and it would have been shelved after three or four 
 episodes to make way for “Dateline: Peoria.” NBC’s strategy apparently is to 
 see if it can build an audience on Netflix and then maybe bring it to the 
 network with the second or third season.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Last Man on Earth

[David Risner]

Wait, there were jokes? That had to be the most unfunny and gross thing I’ve 
seen in quite some time.




On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Joe Coughlin inturnaro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Add more people.
 
 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Steve Timko steveti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Only two episodes in and it seems like they've run out of jokes. What can
 they do for a full season?
 
 Sent from Type
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: The Slap

[David Risner]

You’re a brave man to watch as much of that show as you did. Just from the 
promos, it looked horrid.




On Feb 26, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I made it 12 minutes into the pilot before deleting it from my iTunes. I 
 never made it to the actual slap. It was just too uninteresting.
 
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/hector/id958803274?i=960113394
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] LA/SF Travel Wine

[David Risner]

I agree on Hearst Castle. Very nice.

If you like beaches, Avila is really nice. Morro Bay is a nice little stop with 
some nice restaurants along the water.

Lots of wineries inland from PCH near the 101 in the Paso Robles and Santa 
Maria areas. 


On Feb 23, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Mark Smith marklanesm...@gmail.com wrote:

 I recommend San Simeon (Hearst's Castle) and if you plan ahead try one of the 
 specialty tours rather than the standard tourist version.
 
 And my favorite wine is petite sirah.
 
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 OT: travel SFO/LAX suggestions - 6 Updates
 Can do no can do - 2 Updates
 OT: travel SFO/LAX suggestions   
 Doug Eastick east...@mcd.on.ca: Feb 22 10:54AM -0500 
 
 So, here's my usual email to the list about I'm travelling somewhere and
 would like to hear suggestions.
  
 So my wife and I, and another couple, are planning a trip to San Fran,
 wineries, drive down PCH, LA area, and then fly back home. trip length is
 likely 7-10 days. Likely this September 2015.
  
 While I have done the LA area on my own in the last ten years (work trips,
 Coachella x3) and fit in some studio tours, Santa Monica, LLS, sitcom
 taping, Kimmel, etc. I haven't been north of Burbank :).
  
 any tips/suggestions appreciated. thanks all.
 Steve Timko steveti...@gmail.com: Feb 22 11:31AM -0800 
 
 What kind of wine do you like? 
  
 Sent from Blue Mail
  
  
  
 Doug Eastick east...@mcd.on.ca: Feb 22 05:40PM -0500 
 
 Hahaha. Here's my simple answer : red more than white. I Usually drink 
 Cabernet sauvignon, shiraz, merlot (I'm not drinking fucking merlot!  - 
 Sideways movie). I'm not a wine snob. 
  
  
 -- Sent with K-@ Mail - the evolution of emailing.
 David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com: Feb 23 12:58AM 
 
 I did the reverse trip (LA-SF via the PCH) back in October 2011.  Left LA on 
 a Sunday and arrived in SF on a Wednesday, and felt I should have taken more 
 time.  Spent the night in Morro Bay, Big Sur, and Santa Cruz on the way 
 north.  The northern half of the PCH has more to see and do than the southern 
 half.  But I don't drink, so the wine map may have something else to say.
  
 There's a butterfly sanctuary at Natural Bridge State Beach in Santa Cruz.  
 You'll be a bit early for the migration, so I'd check beforehand to see if 
 the butterflies will be there in force.  The beachside amusement park is 
 arguably better than Santa Monica's, but it will be open only on the weekends 
 after Labor Day.
 The 17-mile drive in Monterey is worth the toll ($10 when I drove it).  It 
 will take you through the various Pebble Beach courses, and has to be cheaper 
 than their greens fees.  Any Steinbeck fans in the group may wish to at least 
 cruise Cannery Row (which ends at the Aquarium).
  
 The Big Sur section is amazing, and you'll need to take your time due to the 
 twists, turns, and hills.  It may be worthwhile to pack stuff for this 
 section rather than depending on roadside eats.
  
 You'll be a month early for peak elephant seal viewing near San Simeon, but 
 there will probably be some out and about.  It's also near Hearst Castle.  I 
 didn't venture to the Castle proper, but the Visitor Center is full of Hearst 
 excess.
 I just cruised through Santa Barbara, but I have to think there would be 
 things there of interest to your group.  Sunday afternoon was just too 
 crowded for me to find a place to park and explore further.
  
 I didn't go through Pismo Beach (though unlike Bugs Bunny, I wasn't trying 
 to) or San Luis Obispo.  
 David
  
 
  
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 To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com tvornottv@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 10:54 AM
 Subject: [TV orNotTV] OT: travel SFO/LAX suggestions
 
 So, here's my usual email to the list about I'm travelling somewhere and 
 would like to hear suggestions. So my wife and I, and another couple, are 
 planning a trip to San Fran, wineries, drive down PCH, LA area, and then fly 
 back home.   trip length is likely 7-10 days.   Likely this September 2015. 
 While I have done the LA area on my own in the last ten years (work trips, 
 Coachella x3) and fit in some studio tours, Santa Monica, LLS, sitcom taping, 
 Kimmel, etc. I haven't been north of Burbank :). any tips/suggestions 
 appreciated.  thanks all.  --
 Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com: Feb 22 08:18PM -0800 
 
 Solvang is a good touristy town to visit, along with the neighboring
 ostrich farm... because then you can say you've been to an ostrich farm,
 and we all know that's on everybody's bucket list
  
 On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 4:58 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
  
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 Kevin M. (RPCV)
 David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com: Feb 23 04:59AM 
 
 You can also look up Milhouse's uncle Norbert.
 David
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Dish to offer Reverse AutoHop during Super Bowl

[David Risner]

ReplayTV used to have the ability to turn switch its commercial skipping like 
this and many people would use it to watch just the commercials back when it 
was still around and had commercial skipping.

Didn’t Dish buy ReplayTV, or was it DirecTV that bough them?


On Jan 30, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote:

 'Cuz we all know that's a more common reason for watching it.
 
 LA Times (link)
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Fall

[David Risner]

Are you guys referring to season 2 of “The Fall”? I watched season 1 from 
Netflix a while ago.

This is the show with Gillian Anderson as the investigator, right?

Or am I just totally confused?


On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote:

 I also watched the final two episodes last night and genuinely enjoyed it. 
 Without spoilers, I know some were dissatisfied with the ending, but the big 
 scene in the final episode was excellent (it ran a full 90 mins, ad free of 
 course).
 
 And yes. That is what the police say when y you're arrested. It changed 
 significantly about 10 years ago and I'm still not used to it.
 
 Well worth checking out on Netflix when it arrives.
 
 Also finishing last night was one of my favourite series of the year Babylon. 
 It's hard to explain this series as it sits between drama and comedy, but 
 isn't quite either. It's set in the Metropolitan Police who hire an American 
 for their PR dept having seen a TED talk given by her. She's played by Brit 
 Marling who always does interesting things. Danny Boyle is Exec Producer and 
 directed the pilot. I'm not sure who is getting it in the US. And sadly the 
 Channel 4 ratings were so low that I don't hold out much hope for a second 
 series.
 
 
 On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 17:10 Steve Timko steveti...@gmail.com wrote:
 It comes to Netflix next month. I am looking forward to it.
 
 Sent from Blue Mail
 
 On Dec 19, 2014, at 7:36 AM, Doug Eastick east...@mcd.on.ca wrote:
 Dunno if Adam Bowie has been watching it in the UK, but I just finished the 
 two final episodes of The Fall  last night (made technically possible by 
 Bravo Canada, Torrents, and SickBeard, Plex Media Server, and Chromecast).
  
 All in all, a good show.   Nice to hear some non-American Miranda rights.
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] FWIW, Australian breaking news

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They're covering it on BBC World News channel which my Time Warner cable
system has on it. BBC reporters showing mostly feeds from 7.
On Dec 14, 2014 6:50 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was watching 7's live coverage until they cut off the stream to
 international viewers... guessing their website was overwhelmed

 On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 The ongoing hostage/terrorist situation in Sydney can be streamed in the
 States on Nine (http://www.9news.com.au) and the ABC (
 http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24).



 The café in question is directly across the street from Seven’s Sydney
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Netflix Saves 'Longmire'

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Awesome! Loved that show. I was very sad to see it go, and now I'm very
happy to have it back.
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 The AE detective series out west, which got cancelled for getting the
 numbers Duck Dynasty is now getting since people started getting tired of
 the Robertsons, will get a fourth 10-ep season on the streamer next year:


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: HBO: It's not TV, it's unplugged

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I don't think anybody has pointed this out, but the CBS streaming plan
specifically excludes devices that use one's TV as a display device (e.g.,
Roku).

One could still hook up one's computer to a TV, but they seem to be trying
to not compete with their broadcast / cable television streams.
 On Oct 16, 2014 9:30 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote:

 The only way I see CBS's pricing making sense is for the people who
 already subscribe to the Big Brother live streams each summer (since
 they're included in the cost of the all action service).

 On Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:46:01 AM UTC-4, Adam Bowie wrote:

 This is probably worthy of its own thread, but CBS is launching CBS All
 Action, including live streaming of most of its programming as well as an
 extensive ad-free archive, all without the need for a cable subscription.
 Live streaming is only in some markets initially, and NFL is currently
 excluded.

 But I note that they'll be charging $5.99 a month for this service. Even
 taking account of the volume of archive programming, that certainly makes
 me think that HBO will be closer to $20 than $10 when it launches.

 http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/16/6987543/cbs-all-access-
 streaming-service-no-cable-required-launches


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 I think it's worth noting that over-the-top refers to any kind of
 service on demand streaming, and it can still refer to walled garden
 services that need accreditation via your cable operator. So HBOGo would
 already count as an over-the-top service.

 That said, it certainly still sounds like 3) in the list above.

 But I think the price would need to be closer to $20. If you look at the
 revenues that HBO makes through subscription, and their subscriber numbers,
 they're currently getting something like $11.80 per subscriber per month if
 my maths is correct (http://bowie.it/1yEH8cH). So that's the absolute
 minimum they're going to want.

 And given that the Turner division of TW *also *makes a lot of money
 through cable subscriptions, TW can't afford to annoy the cable companies
 *too* much. A higher price point means that cable companies can say
 they offer HBO cheaper.

 If it's only $10, then the 70m odd non-HBO homes that currently take
 cable TV, could buy the service cheaper direct from HBO than via Comcast
 etc. And you can be sure that this wouldn't make them happy.

 The question then is, how many households would cancel cable TV
 altogether, and just use a combination of free-to-air/Netflix/Hulu/HBO etc?
 Of course, for that, you still need the internet. And that probably means
 going to your cable company...



 Adam (who's overly curious about this stuff)


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 HBO is using the phrase over-the-top in their PR - that's the same
 language WWE used when launching the WWE Network earlier this year at CES.
 That confirms that the online-only subscriptions will sidestep the
 cable/satellite providers entirely.

 Cost is the huge unknown here.  HBO will need to weigh their pricing
 against Netflix and Hulu, and while the two existing services aren't
 exactly carbon copies of HBO, potential customers will certainly make the
 comparison anyway.  (Oh, and Amazon, but not really.)  The $8-9 price point
 seems to be the sweet spot for online programming services (WWE comes in
 higher at $9.99, but they've got a niche audience).  Assuming HBOGo remains
 the same as it is now (movie library + originals immediately after first
 airing [except LWT] + library of old original series), a $9-10 price point
 might be reasonable.  But if the online subscription includes access to a
 stream of the actual channels, I could see that price going up.

 I guess we'll see.

 On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:55:04 AM UTC-4, Brad Beam wrote:

 As long rumored, HBO will start offering online streaming service next
 year.



 How will it be distributed? Perhaps:

 (1) Through existing cable providers.

 (2) Through online providers (Amazon, Google, et al).

 (3) Directly to customers, like Netflix.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Gotham gets record DVR viewership, back-sixed

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Just out of curiosity, do Hulu viewings count in DVR or in either the +3 or
+7 ratings?
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 Ratings for the premiere jumped by 82%
 http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/10/12/gotham-has-biggest-adults-18-49-ratings-increase-gotham-red-band-society-top-percentage-gains-in-live-7-ratings-for-week-ending-september-28/313337/
 among 18-49s and 70% overall.

 On the heels of that, Fox has ordered another six episodes
 http://deadline.com/2014/10/gotham-full-season-1-order-fox-850394/,
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Forever

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I loved New Amsterdam, so I've been hoping Forever would be a lot like it
like it seemed from the ads.
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 Do you remember the short-lived New Amsterdam?

 The producers of Forever are hoping you don't, because they made a
 nearly exact clone of it.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Help For DVR Decisions on New Shows

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I actually liked the A to Z pilot, so I'm giving it a chance for a few
episodes. Otherwise, I agree with Ed's comments.
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 PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:
  Probably Not
  6. The Mysteries of Laura

 The pilot wasn't bad but I'll need a few more episodes to see if Debra
 Messing's charms can overcome my aversion to out-of-control children
 on television who in the real world would be in protective custody,
 juvenile detention, or the city morgue. If they dial down the kids a
 lot, it might be good.

  No
  1. How To Get Away With Murder

 This one intrigues me and the combo of Viola Davis and the Shondaland
 machine means it should at least be better than 90% of what NBC has to
 offer. Gets the 'record' for now on those strengths plus the
 all-Shonda Rhimes lineup on Thursday night should keep it on the air
 all season.

 The only other possibility on your No list is Constantine but I'm
 still grieving the premature loss of The Dresden Files so my
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Happy Valley/The Fall on Netflix

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I watched The Fall on Netflix quite some time ago, did it come off at
some point?

It's quite good.

I'll definitely check out Happy Valley.

On 8/8/14, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote:
 A heads up that two of my favourite UK dramas in the last 12 months are
 coming to US Netflix very soon.

 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/netflix-adds-brit-drama-happy-724175

 Happy Valley is probably the best series I've seen this year on BBC One.
 Set in a Yorkshire town riddled with drugs, following a policewoman with a
 troubled home life and an awful crime to solve. Don't read too much about
 it in advance as it'll spoil the twists and turns.

 And then The Fall with Gillian Anderson playing a Brit again. I think the
 made this just before Crisis, and there's a second series coming soon to
 British screens. Believable but scary characters. Quite dark and nasty.

 (Anderson is currently playing Blanche Dubois in A Streetcar Named Desire
 on the London stage at the moment. I'm going in a couple of weeks, and it's
 got rave reviews. I think it's getting the NT Live cinema treatment if you
 can get to see those broadcasts).


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Scandal

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Scandal, while not high art, was quite good this season. I watched it on
Netflix because I fell behind on it this season.

I'm watching The Rockford Files now on Netflix. I just watched one or two
episodes of this show in reruns when I was young. So different watching a
show from that time period versus now. I really like seeing LA from that
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On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Doug Eastick east...@eastick.ca wrote:

 I am slightly ashamed that I paused watching House of Cards, and I'm
 flying through Scandal this month.

 Oh and perhaps ashamed that I'm paying attention to Big Brother again this
 summer.

 You may now return to your philosophical discussions of star trek. :-).
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Hulu in talks for Community

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Hulu Plus is not commercial free.


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On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.com
wrote:

 And somewhere else, the fanboiz are whining about the ads on Hulu--isn't
 Hulu Plus commercial free?

 Mark Jeffries
 Saints Spotlight Editor
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 New episodes... the repeats are already there.

 Nellie
 http://www.deadline.com/2014/05/community-hulu-season-6-dan-harmon/
 (link) thinks it's possible, given what producer Sony previously did with
 *Damages* and DirecTV.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS fall annotated

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The TAR move is what caught my eye too.


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 I knew TAR was slipping a bit in the ratings, but I didn't realize it was
 Friday Night Death Slot bad.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] netflix - geek stuff

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In addition to Open Connect, which is awesome and kind of mirrors what
Cable companies are already doing for On-Demand stuff from what I
understand, Netflix is also looking into peer-to-peer network to get around
ISPs slowing down their traffic:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/netflix-researching-large-scale-peer-to-peer-technology-for-streaming/


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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Eastick, Doug east...@mcd.on.ca wrote:

 While netflix has been in the media on net neutrality, etc I have
 always been a TCP/IP internet geek.
 Over a year ago I learned that netflix was promoting some hardware that
 would get stored/sync'd data closer to customers at ISP locations - they
 called it OpenConnect.  If your netflix says SuperHD on some content,
 then you are close enough (internet hop-wise) to an OpenConnect box.

 https://www.netflix.com/openconnect

 Netflix will provide a rack-mounted server with 100 TB (terabytes!!!) of
 fresh content pre-loaded, plus 1 GB of solid-state-drive (SSD) drives.  I
 have no idea what the commerical agreement is; but its freaking drooly wrt
 hardware.

 I just read the deployment guide for it.   not too technical (in my mind,
 but I'm an geeky engineer that loves TCP/IP stuff :) ).

 http://oc.nflxvideo.net/docs/OpenConnect-Deployment-Guide.pdf

 long story short - brilliant use of Open Source software (FreeBSD, nginx,
 others)  for network efficiency; and my teenage kids don't have any clue
 how it all works :)



 yeah, yeah, I know this isn't the forum for tech stuff.  But everyone on
 this list loves the content :) .  So click a couple of the above links to
 appreciate what all the geeks do for you. Reminds me of a joke:  my 21-yr
 old son just graduated from Engineering there was a Nursing /
 Engineering prom (traditionally) and the MC said well, all you female
 nursing students... if you can't find a real man, then you should find an
 Engineer.  I like to think that my wife found both.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] LA dishers shut out of Dodgers channel

[David Risner]

DirecTV still doesn't carry Pac-12 Network after a couple of years of it
being around. It seems they don't really care about being the place for all
the sports like they used to advertise being. I know a number of fans of
the local college teams who have switched from DirecTV or have arrangements
to go to places where they can watch the games

I wonder how much money DirecTV makes off of sports bars who have them as
their provider and if they'll lose a lot of them since they don't carry
Pac-12 and TWCSportsNet LA (why didn't they just call it the Dodgers
Network like the Yankees did with YES?)



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On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote:

 TWC says DirecTV has shut down talks re TWCSportsNet LA.  The satco denies.

 LA Times Company 
 Townhttp://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-time-warner-cable-says-talks-with-directv-for-dodger-channel-are-over-20140403,0,6994648.story#axzz2y1MhflvR(link)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Letterman retiring in 2015, supposedly

[David Risner]

How about Drew Carey?

Already doing Price is Right which is, AFAIK a CBS show. Based in LA, so it
could be done in LA.


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On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:49 AM, John Edwards jedward...@gmail.com wrote:

 She is on The Talk, so if CBS is thinking that way that may make
 things easier for them. That said, an 11:30 show schedule might not
 let her do the 80,000 other things, so she may not want it.

 I honestly think the amount of name recognition required for the 11:30
 host is fairly minimal. As Letterman's retirement approaches, there is
 going to be massive hype, and massive hype about the replacement. I'm
 fairly sure that they could pull somebody off the street and have them
 be well-known by the time they take over.

 My hunch (and it is nothing more than that) is that CBS will go with
 someone relatively young and let them build an audience. I could also
 see them going with an LA-based show, especially if booking in NYC
 gets more difficult now that Tonight is based in the East.

 John

 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Darren Glass dgl...@gmail.com wrote:
  One name that I am surprised to not see show up more in these
 conversations
  is Aisha Tyler.  I remember people mentioning her back in 2010 on lists
 of
  who should replace Conan before Fallon got the nod, and I am surprised
 more
  people aren't suggesting her in the recent discussions.  She doesn't have
  quite the name recognition of some others so she may be too risky for
 11:30,
  but between her podcast, her standup skills, her stint on The Soup, and
 the
  80,000 other things she hosts I think she would be a very solid choice
 even
  before you get to all the ways she would diversify late night.
 
  (I should probably mention that I may have some bias as my wife was
 friends
  with her in high school.  I have never actually met her as they have long
  been out of touch, but I have always had a soft spot for her for that
  reason.)
 
  - darren
 
 
  On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:50 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  HuffPo TV is reporting that CBS courted Oliver to replace SCG in event
 he
  didn't renew his contract, and Oliver passed:
 
 www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/04/john-oliver-late-night-cbs_n_5091150.html?utm_hp_ref=tvir=TV
  - so that ship has probably sailed.
 
  I honestly don't see Craig Ferguson moving to 11:30.  If memory serves,
  after Dave's most recent health scare (shingles?), he had said
 something to
  the effect of 'I'll do it if it's an emergency, as a favor to the boss
  [meaning Dave], but I really don't want 11:30'.  I don't see CBS giving
 him
  the kind of free reign at 11:30 that he has now.  Also, his current LLS
  taping schedule gives him the freedom to tour and play stand-up gigs -
 an
  11:30 show won't have the kind of schedule that allows for anything but
  working on the show (unless, of course, your name rhymes with Kay
 Beno and
  you eat, sleep and piss jokes).
 
  As much as he's the 'best' option, I don't see Stewart leaving Comedy
  Central.  And I don't see Conan leaving TBS, at least not until his
 contract
  is up.
 
  Actually, I have a name to add to the list - it's one that people
 probably
  haven't thought of because he's not currently a talk show host, and he's
  generally not widely regarded because he trades in the bluer side of
  broadcast TV humor but...
 
  What about Seth MacFarlane?
 
  He's got a made-for-TV personality, he can sing and dance (his album of
  American popular standards is actually quite good), and if his TV and
 movie
  work is any indication, he's a guy who likes to explore the boundaries
 of a
  genre.  Plus, I've seen him in some really great interviews -
 presumably he
  can get as good as he gives.
 
  Possible downsides: his prior work would make him a controversial
 choice,
  and there might be some celebrities who would shy away from appearing
 on his
  show at first.  But it's still not the worst idea ever
 *COUGH*Chevy*COUGH*.
 
  On Friday, April 4, 2014 12:02:53 PM UTC-4, Joe Hass wrote:
 
  I have spent the better part of five minutes trying to find out the
  answer to this question and failed: How long is John Oliver's
 contract with
  HBO? Because that's the name that jumps out at me as the obvious
 answer.
  All the names PG posted a while back are going to want cash, and a lot
 of
  it, as well as being accepting of working four-days-a-week. Oliver is
  (relatively) cheap, hot, talented, and probably one of the better
  interviewers out there.
 
  jokeAnd if Oliver's not available, just get Zaltzman./joke
 
  One other point: I'm not understanding *why* everyone thinks Conan's
 not
  an option. Does an irrational industry really look at him as damaged
 goods?
  Do we think Conan's wouldn't at least want another crack at broadcast
 11:35?
 
 
  On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:35 AM, do...@flids.net wrote:
 
  Seriously?  I'd rank Stewart second, behind Letterman, and on a par

Re: [TV orNotTV] The HIMYM Finale (Spoiler-free)

[David Risner]

I just watched it. Avoided most of the spoilers, although I did know about
the fate of the mother before watching it.

I really enjoyed it. I thought it was a very fitting ending. That said, I
wish the last season would have been an expansion of the final episode
rather than the weekend of the wedding.


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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:07 AM, Joe Coughlin inturnaro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I did like it and I'm a non-critic.

 Robin intentionally isolated herself from the gang, telling Lily that she
 didn't see the gang as something she fit in anymore with a couple with two
 kids and one on the way, her ex-husband who hits on women in front of her
 and the guy she probably should have been with kissing the mother of his
 child. Barney never went anywhere because he didn't have the globetrotting
 job Robin did.

 Here's what I wrote for my FB friends...

 So, here are my thoughts on the finale of How I Met Your Mother.

 And, really, you're kind of not all there if you don't think this will
 contain spoilers. Read at your own risk.

 I liked it.

 There. I said it. I liked it.

 I get that some people saw it as a rejection of their patience and time. I
 respect that they didn't dig it and some are outright angry. But I guess
 what I liked about it was simple.

 Life isn't neat. Happily ever afters don't come. Relationships are work.
 Couples break-up. People get sick and die. Sometimes unexpected people come
 along and rock your world. Who we're right for at 25 or 30 isn't the same
 person who we're right for at 50+ with two kids.

 The message, the real message of HIMYM, is that you have to love the
 people you love with your whole heart and soul. Because you don't know how
 long you'll have them. Don't pace yourself with love for the long haul
 because it might not come for one reason or another. Love big. Love hard.
 Love legenwait for it---darily.

 So even if you hated the series finale, I do hope you internalized that
 message because it will never steer you wrong even if it meanders over
 several seasons spanning several decades. There will be tears. But there
 will also be love.


 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 (I'm going to get slightly spoilery later in this post, FYI)

 Other than Doug, I have yet to find a single non-critic who has anything
 positive to say about it.

 Going back to our previous thread about the episode where everyone
 suddenly realized that there was a possibility the mother was dead, someone
 mentioned that they would be surprised that no one at CBS wouldn't have
 stepped in and said, Um, have you really thought how the fans are going to
 take this? And when everything blew up, I have to imagine that Thomas 
 Bays (and everyone else involved) who knew exactly how this was going to go
 down suddenly realized the ship was pointing directly at the iceberg and it
 was too late to do anything about it, nor could they say Of course we're
 not going to kill the mother!

 I find it interesting that no one from the show is standing up at this
 point and defending it (unlike Robert and Michelle King on The Good Wife,
 who stepped up to the plate right away after killing off Josh Charles'
 character to fans uproar). I'm especially looking at Neil Patrick Harris,
 who was one of the staunchest defenders of the finale prior to it, bragging
 about how the fans were going to really like it. Um, Neil? Yeah...no.

 Having finally read a full recap (my comment from last night came from a
 bulleted list on events on EW.com), I'm even more baffled. I am not the
 HIMYM fan in my house (that would be my wife, who was still hot when I came
 home two hours after the episode), but I can tell you the moment when I
 would've lost it: when they presented the idea that after Barney and Robin
 divorce, the other three characters would bond around *Barney*, the one
 each has found to be grotesque at various points through the series.
 Seriously: Robin's the one who's going to be isolated by the group instead
 of rallied around? And after the Lily/Robin discussion, I'm pretty sure I'd
 have either turned the TV off or paused the DVR so I could go buy a gun to
 shoot it.

 One last thought: if there was ever an episode that proved the benefit of
 filming in front of a studio audience, this was it. What popped into my
 mind this morning was an old episode of Friends, The One Where Everybody
 Finds Out (where Phoebe finds out about Monica and Chandler, leading to a
 magnificent farce where Phoebe and Chandler try to seduce each other
 knowing the other person knows what's going on). The B plot on that was
 Ugly Naked Guy subletting his apartment, and Ross trying to get it. There's
 a scene where Joey, staring out the window, says Hey, hey, check it out,
 check it out: Ugly Naked Guy's got a naked friend! To which the audience
 lets out a loud scream of laughter as the four others head

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Ending Of How I Met Your Mother (links to spoiler theories)

[David Risner]

There is also this story for a somewhat different take on it. Personally,
I'm hoping this is more correct than the others.

http://is.gd/wiAUcu

From the Entertainment Weekly website.



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On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 After the events of this week's episode (with four to go), there seems to
 be a bubbling up of a belief that we're not only going to get the title of
 the series, but also the *reason* for the series. (URLs masked to keep the
 theories hidden)

 WaPo: http://goo.gl/4TS5Lo

 Slate: http://goo.gl/7YgUkx

 My wife has not caught up with this week's episode, but as an avid HIMYM
 fan, I am intrigued to see what she thinks.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: AP: Five Suitors For NFL Thursday Night Package

[David Risner]

Only eight of the game will be shown on CBS itself. I would think that
isn't too much disruption for Thursday nights. Just means a few less reruns
at some point in the season.


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On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 And your winner: CBS. They'll produce all the game broadcasts and provide
 Jim Nantz and Phil Simms. NFLN will provide the pregame, halftime, and
 postgame shows. NFLN gets eight games and CBS gets eight games that will be
 simulcast on NFLN (though it's not clear at this point how the breakdown of
 these games will be: eight then eight, or a mish-mash). Two of the games
 will be a Saturday night doubleheader. A one year deal with an option for a
 second.

 I wonder what happens to the quite formidable regular Thursday night CBS
 lineup.


 http://deadspin.com/cbss-nfl-deal-means-more-phil-simms-the-return-of-sat-1516659636



 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 League shocks industry announcing bidders: Lifetime, truTV, HGTV, NatGeo,
 and The Weather Channel.



 Fine: All four current carriers plus Turner.


 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20140119/nfl-thursday-night-football-bids.ap/


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RE: [TV orNotTV] Give me a reason to continue with HULU Plus

[David Risner]

Misfits is very good.

-Original Message-
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To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com tvornottv@googlegroups.com
Subject: [TV orNotTV] Give me a reason to continue with HULU Plus

I've watched just about everything I want to watch on HULU Plus. What I mostly 
watch there now are the regular HULU shows.


I've watched Life on Mars. Luther. None of the original HULU shows grab me.
Give me something to watch, or I'll cancel it.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] ABC considering reviving Body of Proof

[David Risner]

I would like to see this happen. I don't know why, but I enjoyed watching
that show.


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On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote:

 Mother J misses this show, and it got better ratings than three shows
 currently on that network... they'll have to talk Delany back, and find
 another exec after the original one went to that *24* update...

 http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/body-of-proof-might-return-abc/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] sitcom teasers on CBS

[David Risner]

I fully agree! So fracking annoying.


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On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:

 As much as I hate teasers in general, and teasers for comedies in
 particular, I am somehow even more put off by CBS's new practice of ending
 every sitcom with a coming up next week montage. Am I overreacting, or
 might anyone else hate this as much as I do? Has there been any reportage
 on this new philosophy?

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RE: [TV orNotTV] sitcom teasers on CBS

[David Risner]

I really like Big Bang Theory. I've also liked How I Met Your Mother although 
I've found this season to be pretty blah so far.

I've given the new ones as try, but I don't think any of them will stick.


-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] sitcom teasers on CBS

You guys watch CBS sitcoms? Is there a gun to your head, or are you just into 
self-inflicted pain?



On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:36 AM, David Risner da...@risner.org wrote:

I fully agree! So fracking annoying.




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On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:

As much as I hate teasers in general, and teasers for comedies in particular, I 
am somehow even more put off by CBS's new practice of ending every sitcom with 
a coming up next week montage. Am I overreacting, or might anyone else hate 
this as much as I do? Has there been any reportage on this new philosophy?


Jon
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie review: Trophy Wife

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My wife and I enjoyed the show.

Not as much as Welcome to the Family, but we found it entertaining.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: The Blacklist

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It's definitely not very original, but I'm giving it a couple more episodes too 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Five Most DVR-Worthy New Shows?

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Ironside is not so good. You can see the pilot on Hulu.

I'm most looking forward to Almost Human, Agents of SHIELD, Once Upon a
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Sleepy Hollow' Premiere Rings Bell for Fox

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I remember Standoff. Loved that show. The interaction between the
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Don Draper Leaving Like Walter White

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To me, that means I just should wait until the last set airs and watch them
all together. I would rather watch it all at once, or at least over the
course of just a few weeks, than watching it in bits and pieces. Luckily, I
have a good capacity on my DVR so I can hold onto episodes for a year and
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Like AMC stablemate Breaking Bad, Mad Men will have its final season
 broken up into two parts, with seven episodes airing next spring and the
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The New Ironside

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It's also on Hulu along with Trophy Wife (ok), Welcome to the Family
(Good), Back in the Game (My Fav, but Maggie Lawson my be biasing me), and
We're The Millers (I'm not sure about this one). I haven't watched Ironside
yet. I've been scared to based upon the critics' comments about it.


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On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:12 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.comwrote:

 Pilot a free download on the iTunes store

 https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/pilot/id688396860?i=694423064


 Is it worth the cost?

 It is also available for free on cable On Demand, at least on Comcast. I
 will probably try to watch this, but I think I will just wait till it airs
 and record it. I still have 10 unwatched Hawaii Five-0's on my DVR from
 last season, so I am behind in my retro-tv-remake watching. If they remake
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The New Ironside

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Either way, the TV show The Millers is all over the place. Now that I
know Will Arnett is involved, that explains a lot. His shows are usually
all over the place. This show is funnier than most of his shows, but it
does have its moments where it goes over the edge into stupid territory. It
feels like it wants to be a Wonder Years for the 80s, but it doesn't have
enough respect for the characters to be that. The characters are all
caricatures rather than real characters one can grow attached to.

I watched Ironside. It isn't bad, but it's nothing we haven't seen many
times before. (And I don't mean on the original Ironside).

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Will That Birthday Song Forever Require Royalties?

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Perhaps the better answer is to reform copyright law so copyright doesn't
last forever.

Maybe 50 years from creation? Seems reasonable. Get it uniform across the
world to reduce confusion.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Low Winter Sun

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Full episodes of all four already aired episodes are available on the AMC
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On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mild (not strong but mild) shades of EZ Streets, Homicide, and probably
 The Wire (if I'd ever watched the Wire, but I've heard stories). Casting
 director was either great at his/her job or very bad at it -- too soon to
 tell from the pilot. But I was interested in the story.

 Not exactly a marketing tool for the city of Detroit.

 Was free on iTunes. Not sure if it still is.

 https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/pilot/id673273149?i=673277422

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Top Posting

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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM, John Edwards jedward...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:

 The new gmail format seems to be pushing toward top posting though, and
 my observation on this and other lists is that top posting seems to now be
 common, and perhaps standard. Nobody has yet called me a stupid, ignorant
 troglodyte with my head up my fucking asshole for bottom posting (a cleaned
 up version of what I was called for top posting back in the day), but if
 the style has changed I am happy to change with it. Can anyone state the
 current accepted stylebook on this?


 My preference has always been bottom posting, but in a lot of ways that
 battle was lost when Microsoft Outlook defaulted to top-posting replies (to
 the point where adding a reply at the bottom or interspersed through the
 previous message looks very strange and nearly unreadable).

 Gmail's new format, particularly the hiding of the text probably means
 that I should get my head out of Usenet and adapt.

 Blech. I wish these damned kids would get off my lawn, too.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS, TWC at Odds

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Is it just the CBS station or the whole suite of Viacom owned channels  (or
whatever name it has now)?

Honestly, I don't watch anything on CBS during the summer, so this would be
a non-event for me as long as it is resolved before the fall season starts.



On Wednesday, July 31, 2013, Jon Delfin wrote:

 And this morning, I awaken to discover that the DVR program guide shows
 CBS as data not available, so good luck programming recordings, fellow
 New Yorkers.


 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Terry Knab te...@knab.org wrote:

 Actually, WBBM is likely carried on a few SE Wisconsin cable systems if
 they can’t get WDJT/58 from Milwaukee.  Or its been on there so long its
 grandfathered in.  

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 But they did leave in WKBD.  And they included WBBM in the list, even
 though TWC has absolutely no Chicago presence in a Kabletown-dominated
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 Same thing with Pittsburgh's KDKA and WPCW. Pittsburgh is a Comcast
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV, but...: My mother can not move to LA now

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I use the plastic bags for picking up after the dog when going on walks. I
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On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I lived in Central Asia as most know, and plastic bags there are
 thought of in a variety of ways. There is an element of the Asian
 population that views them as fashion accessories (anyone who goes to
 Disneyland and sees usually Asian tourists ask for individual bags for
 each item purchased, that is why). In practical terms, not every shop
 in Asia had bags, or the right size of bags, so as a would-be
 consumer, it was standard for us to walk around with two or three
 types of plastic bags in our pockets should we want to make any
 impulse purchases.

 In California, I lived in and frequented cities where the ban was in
 effect... and every shop I went into ignored the ban entirely. I was
 never charged extra for a bag, nor was I ever denied a bag... not even
 in notoriously green stores. When the law extends, things might
 change, but not for a long time, and it won't become like the Asian
 culture I just mentioned. The concept of a bag in retail is it allows
 consumers to purchase and then carry more items. Taking away that
 ability worsens the economy, which means less dollars can be invested
 in environmental cause that usually get cast aside during rough fiscal
 times. In short, if you want to save the planet, you need to allow
 plastic bags.

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  TVorNotTV...for all your bag related discussion!
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Steve Timko steveti...@gmail.com
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  Berkeley already has this. When I bought wine at Kermit Lynch they had
 to
  charge me for the bags to carry the bottles. Wine bags are not something
  people normally carry around.
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv
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  On Jun 26, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Bob in Jersey wrote:
 
   She has a very specific use, which I'll keep off-list in the interest
   of privacy, for simple plastic bags, a ban of which will begin in
 the new
   year in the City of the Angels... paper sacks are to be sold @ 10¢
 each...
   some of the burbs have had bag bans for a while...
 
  I, a resident of the City of Los Angeles, have seen this ban coming
 down
  the pike for a while now and have prepared myself by using reusable
 bags for
  the past couple of years -- but I still have what seems like way too
 many
  plastic bags stuffed into the cabinet under my kitchen sink.
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC premiere dates

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Additionally, Grimm  the new Dracula show start at the end of October,
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On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote:

 Better late than 
 never...http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/nbc-fall-premiere-dates-michael-j-fox-show-blacklist-debuts-98991(TheWrap)

 Sept. 23rd:
 8pm: The Voice
 10pm: The Blacklist

 Sept. 24th:
 10pm/after Voice: Chicago Fire

 Sept. 25th
 8pm: Revolution (NNT)
 9pm: SVU

 Sept. 26th:
 8pm: Parks  Rec
 9.30: Michael J Fox
 10pm: Parenthood

 Sept. 27th:
 8pm: repeats
 9pm: Dateline

 Oct. 2nd:
 10pm: Ironside

 Oct. 3rd:
 8.30: Welcome to the Family
 9pm: Sean Saves the World

 Oct. 8th:
 8pm: Biggest Loser

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