[U2] Changes to the List

2006-03-17 Thread brian
Thank you all for your views on this subject. The status of the user lists is 
one of many areas the U2UG are considering as we move forward this year. 

At our next board meeting we will be constituting a committee to advise on the 
best options for the list hosting. It may be that the committee finds a better 
option for the current list, recommends a move to a different list service, or 
recommends that the lists stay as current. Any recommendations, together with 
their rationale, will be fed back to the community and any decisions on the 
future of the lists will ultimately need to rest with the list membership. 

The committee will be continuing to seek comment from the membership on this 
issue.
 
So in the meantime:

1. Please move this discussion over to the community list. That's where it 
belongs now.

2. If anyone wishes to contact the board directly on this matter, please email 
myself or other board members off-list.

Thank You,

Brian Leach, U2UG Board
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Re: [U2] Unix Device Number

2006-03-17 Thread Mats Carlid

df  shows all currently used mount points in its last columns
and the device in column 1.

HTH
-- mats


phil walker wrote:


Hi,

The output of list.readu returns the device and inode number of a
Universe file. I can resolve the inode number by using find . -inum
xx, but if I am positioned at / then it is possible that 1 or more
files may have that same inode number, so I want to restrict the find to
the corresponding device.

Is there a way of determining the mount point for a file system device
id in UNIX?

Cheers,

Phil.
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Re: [U2] Unix Device Number

2006-03-17 Thread Mats Carlid

df  shows all currently used mount points in its last columns
and the device in column 1.


oops ...   I have an alias on df  to  df -k
plain df gives the info too but in a different format.

HTH
-- mats


phil walker wrote:


Hi,

The output of list.readu returns the device and inode number of a
Universe file. I can resolve the inode number by using find . -inum
xx, but if I am positioned at / then it is possible that 1 or more
files may have that same inode number, so I want to restrict the find to
the corresponding device.

Is there a way of determining the mount point for a file system device
id in UNIX?

Cheers,

Phil.
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RE: [U2] [UD] Trigger (singular)

2006-03-17 Thread Raymond de Bourbon
Hi Bill,

What you have is the simplest form of the wrapper. I had to create a 'generic' 
wrapper so I had to add logic to deal with the possible return values of 
execstat and the possibly amended record. As the wrapper is making the multiple 
calls it now has the responsibility of quitting at the appropriate time and 
maintaining the record value between subroutine calls.

I'm on leave today, but I will post the 2 wrappers I have for update and delete 
as soon as I get a chance.

Regards

Raymond de Bourbon

-Original Message-
From: "Bill Haskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org" 
Sent: 17/03/06 00:44
Subject: RE: [U2] [UD] Trigger (singular)

Raymond:

Thanks.  I'm thinking the following ought to do the trick (unless, of
course, I've missed something).  :-)

SUBROUTINE U2T.APVENDOR.U (ExecStat, DictFlag, atFILENAME, atID, atRECORD)
** Update trigger for APVENDOR file on UniData
** (C) Copyright 1985-2004, Advantos Systems, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.
!
** Last Modified: 16 Mar 2006, wph
** First Created: 16 Mar 2006, wph
** Program Type-: Trigger (Web)
!
** Notes:
**
** This is a "trigger" program placed on the (APVENDOR) file.  It has
** to execute all UPDATE triggers for this file.
**
**---**
**   **
**I N I T I A L I Z A T I O N**
**   **
**---**
*
CALL U2.NAMES.BRIDGE.U (ExecStat, DictFlag, atFILENAME, atID, atRECORD)
CALL U2.HOMETASTIC.UPD (ExecStat, DictFlag, atFILENAME, atID, atRECORD)
*
****
****
**  E N D   O F   P R O G R A M   **
****
****
*
RETURN
END

Bill Haskett
Advantos Systems, Inc.
www.advantos.net 
(760)944-5570 (CA)
(360)923-4838 (WA)
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond de Bourbon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:21 PM
> To: Bill Haskett; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] [UD] Trigger (singular)
> 
> Hi Bill,  
> 
> You are correct, Unidata only supports one trigger for both 
> update and delete. In order to have multiple triggers you 
> need a wrapper program... I can send you the source if you want.
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Raymond de Bourbon 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Bill Haskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org" 
> Sent: 16/03/06 21:03
> Subject: [U2] [UD] Trigger (singular)
> 
> I'm almost done with triggers (thank goodness I only have a 
> few to create).
> It appears UniData only allows one trigger created on a file 
> at a time.  Is
> this true?
> 
> 2 Dtademo (0)-> LIST-TRIGGER APVENDOR
> BEFORE UPDATE TRIGGER: U2.NAMES.BRIDGE.U
> BEFORE DELETE TRIGGER: U2.NAMES.BRIDGE.D
> 2 Dtademo (0)-> CREATE-TRIGGER APVENDOR U2.HOMETASTIC.UPD UPDATE
> The specified trigger already exists.
> 
> The documentation doesn't mention this at all.  So, in order 
> to get multiple
> triggers on a file would I have to create a "wrapper" BASIC 
> program that
> CALLs each trigger program as a subroutine (or EXECUTEs each trigger
> program)?
> 
> Any enlightenment would be appreciated.  :-)
> 
> Bill Haskett
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[U2] RE: [U2C] Changes to the List

2006-03-17 Thread Les Hewkin
It was so simple when Cliff ran things.

Receive an Email and reply to it.

I have more posts about how to post this week then anything else, it is
getting very boring, and more complicated. I have had a couple of failed
to delivery messages because I an not a valid user on some of the lists.

The amount of usefull posts have gone down.

I do not like the way things are going. To many committees not enough
action and common sense. Think I will be unsubscribing very soon.

I wonder who is going to get this reply, I haven't got a clue..!
Can't remember if I select "Reply" or "Reply to all", bother.


Les Sherlock Hewkin
Senior Developer
Core Systems - 9951
01604 592289

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17 March 2006 08:06
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [U2C] Changes to the List

Thank you all for your views on this subject. The status of the user
lists is one of many areas the U2UG are considering as we move forward
this year. 

At our next board meeting we will be constituting a committee to advise
on the best options for the list hosting. It may be that the committee
finds a better option for the current list, recommends a move to a
different list service, or recommends that the lists stay as current.
Any recommendations, together with their rationale, will be fed back to
the community and any decisions on the future of the lists will
ultimately need to rest with the list membership. 

The committee will be continuing to seek comment from the membership on
this issue.
 
So in the meantime:

1. Please move this discussion over to the community list. That's where
it belongs now.

2. If anyone wishes to contact the board directly on this matter, please
email myself or other board members off-list.

Thank You,

Brian Leach, U2UG Board

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RE: [U2] [UD] Trigger (singular)

2006-03-17 Thread colin.alfke
Bill,

I don't see anything "wrong" - just a hint. Once you are in the trigger
subroutine your calls don't have to conform to the trigger. I realize
that this may be just because you were thinking you could add them both
as triggers and wrote them that way.

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary Canada 

>-Original Message-
>From: Bill Haskett
>
>Raymond:
>
>Thanks.  I'm thinking the following ought to do the trick 
>(unless, of course, I've missed something).  :-)
>
>SUBROUTINE U2T.APVENDOR.U (ExecStat, DictFlag, atFILENAME, atID,
atRECORD)
>** Update trigger for APVENDOR file on UniData
[snip]
>*
>CALL U2.NAMES.BRIDGE.U (ExecStat, DictFlag, atFILENAME, atID, atRECORD)
>CALL U2.HOMETASTIC.UPD (ExecStat, DictFlag, atFILENAME, atID, atRECORD)
>*
[snip]
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RE: [U2] [UV] Gigabit NIC / list changes

2006-03-17 Thread colin.alfke
>-Original Message-
>From: John Jenkins 
>
>For those that have access, there is an item in the IBM U2 
>Knowledgebase on issues with Gigabit NICs who have problems.
>
>Issues relate to "Nagle Effect" and issues with drivers and 
>firmware versions when small packets are sent (i.e. Telnet on 
>full duplex).
>
>Seems to be Windows more so than Unix.
>
>Regards
>
>JayJay

I think john votes for reverting the list ;-)
Me, I'm good either way so whatever makes it easiest for the people
volunteering their time and equipment to run the list gets my vote.
Google groups would work fine. As long as it doesn't have the same
failings that yahoo groups have/had. SBSolutions was moved here partly
because of the problems there. 

My .02 CAD
Colin Alfke
Calgary Canada
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RE: [U2] [UD] Triggers

2006-03-17 Thread David Wolverton
Agreed -- we have D3 users and UniData users and UniVerse users ... I'm not
sure that part of UniData is 'Time Warped' -- we've seen a ton of new
features built in during the last few years, while D3 chugs along, they've
only produced 3rd level point revisions in the last 2 years! Wow. It does
make their maintenance seem high!  I'm getting the same feedback from my
customers.

The only thing D3 has that I miss in UniData is Case Insensitivity
everywhere. Gosh that was nice. Gosh that was a nightmare. Gosh that was
nice. 

And while UniVerse may be slightly more compatible with D3, UniVerse is
slightly more complex to administrer than UniData in my experience. Not as
much once you know all the edges, but there are more edges in UniVerse for
sure! (No flame wars needed or intended!)

Bill - Welcome your customer to U2 land!!

DW


Bill Haskett wrote:

> > How difficult was the move - was it all green screen with source 
> > code or more difficult?
>
> It wasn't that difficult.  The biggest problems were UniData is like 
> interfacing with Microdata in 1982...it's a time warp!  The UniData 
> environment is excruciatingly tedious and the lack of MV enhancements 
> is what I'd expect from mvBASE (an end-of-line product).

Ken wrote:

>It sounds like you feel exactly the same about UniData as I did about D3
when I spent a few months contracting at a D3 shop - antiquated stuff, how
can anybody work with this when xxx is so much better?

>I'm not sure which MV enhancements you mean, but I suspect the issue is
really one of adapting to looking at things from a different perspective. 
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RE: [U2] [UD] Conversion from D3

2006-03-17 Thread colin.alfke
I'll second Ken's opinion. We converted our application from D3 to
UniData about 10 years ago. We converted approx 30 clients. Everybody
was really happy. You just have to look at some things differently. 

No slight intended here Bill but I believe you did this all with the PE
version and no IBM involvement. This no doubt added to the pain. Of
course, an on the ball IBM rep *should* have contacted you... I know
you've told me about the world of difference in support you've been
getting from MS with VS and SQL (though you didn't say if you actually
purchased those ;-) You also seem "pushed" from D3 rather than "pulled"
to UniData - that might also be part of the issue.

When we converted we had a UniData account UCONV3 on aix that had a
number of utilities that I believe we used. I have documentation on it
in my UniData manual (circa version 3.6.5?) but haven't seen anything on
it since. Perhaps IBM should get on top of this before Tony convinces
everyone to move to Jbase ;-)

In Bill's defence: UniData does have a Pick compatibility mode - note I
said Pick and not D3. It doesn't have some of the "enhancements" done in
the last 15-20 years - like still needing quotes around item id's in
UniQuery statements. Also UniQuery's sub-totalling on det-supp reports
leaves something to be desired. We converted our app to SB+ at the same
time as moving to UD. It insulated us from a number of the issues that
Bill encountered. It "forces" you to use Pick compatibility mode - I
wonder if that is going to change now that IBM no longer supports SB+ on
D3?

That being said - I wouldn't go back unless someone paid me
(anybody!?!?! Heck, I'll even work with Visage if I have to ;-)

Way too much for this early on St. Patrick's Day!
Colin Alfke
Calgary Canada

>-Original Message-
>From: Ken Wallis
>
>Bill Haskett wrote:
>
>> > How difficult was the move - was it all green screen with source 
>> > code or more difficult?
>>
>> It wasn't that difficult.  The biggest problems were UniData is like 
>> interfacing with Microdata in 1982...it's a time warp!  The UniData 
>> environment is excruciatingly tedious and the lack of MV 
>enhancements 
>> is what I'd expect from mvBASE (an end-of-line product).
>
>It sounds like you feel exactly the same about UniData as I 
>did about D3 when I spent a few months contracting at a D3 
>shop - antiquated stuff, how can anybody work with this when 
>xxx is so much better?
>
>I'm not sure which MV enhancements you mean, but I suspect the 
>issue is really one of adapting to looking at things from a 
>different perspective.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Ken
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[U2] U2 Board

2006-03-17 Thread Jerry Banker
Did everybody know that we recently had a U2UG board election? I remember
seeing that nominations were open back in November but nothing since. The
website says the elections are open but in truth the elections are over, even
the runoffs. I'm a member of the U2UG but I had no notification that the
election was on, that there was a runoff, and now no notification of whom is
on the board.
Jerry
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[U2] Excel from Unidata

2006-03-17 Thread Dave Tabor
Hi, 

I'd like to be able to create an excel file from a Unidata program to be used 
for download on a website, without any user intervention.

Can anyone offer any tips/tricks to make this a simple process?

Thanks,
Dave

PS:  Unidata 6.0 / AIX 5.1
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Re: [U2] U2 Board

2006-03-17 Thread Richard Brown
I received notification of all those events.
Richard

- Original Message - 
From: "Jerry Banker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: [U2] U2 Board


> Did everybody know that we recently had a U2UG board election? I remember
> seeing that nominations were open back in November but nothing since. The
> website says the elections are open but in truth the elections are over,
even
> the runoffs. I'm a member of the U2UG but I had no notification that the
> election was on, that there was a runoff, and now no notification of whom
is
> on the board.
> Jerry
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RE: [U2] U2 Board

2006-03-17 Thread Tom Dodds
I am in the same position, I think.  Hard to tell sometimes if I am a member
or not.

Tom Dodds
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
708-234-9608 Office
630-235-2975 Cell


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:05 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] U2 Board

Did everybody know that we recently had a U2UG board election? I remember
seeing that nominations were open back in November but nothing since. The
website says the elections are open but in truth the elections are over,
even
the runoffs. I'm a member of the U2UG but I had no notification that the
election was on, that there was a runoff, and now no notification of whom is
on the board.
Jerry
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RE: [U2] Excel from Unidata

2006-03-17 Thread Dan Fitzgerald
I did this once by  then tweaking an excel file to look right, and then 
ftp'ing it back to the server as a template, then populating it with data & 
naming it *.xls.




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bought & sold are the legislators" - P.J. O'Rourke

Dan Fitzgerald






From: "Dave Tabor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: [U2] Excel from Unidata
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:39:11 -0500

Hi,

I'd like to be able to create an excel file from a Unidata program to be 
used for download on a website, without any user intervention.


Can anyone offer any tips/tricks to make this a simple process?

Thanks,
Dave

PS:  Unidata 6.0 / AIX 5.1
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Re: [U2] U2 Board

2006-03-17 Thread Louie Bergsagel
I received notification in 2005, but not this year. The last email I
received was the following:

  Dana Baron<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to u2-users
 More options   Feb 2
 For those of you on this list who are U2UG members, you should be receiving
instructions for voting in this year's board election soon. Due to
"technical difficulties" (mostly caused by me), the election has been
delayed. Stay tuned!

Thanks for your patience,


Dana Baron
U2UG Nominations & Elections
 - Show quoted text -



On 3/17/06, Tom Dodds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am in the same position, I think.  Hard to tell sometimes if I am a
> member
> or not.
>
> Tom Dodds
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 708-234-9608 Office
> 630-235-2975 Cell
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:05 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] U2 Board
>
> Did everybody know that we recently had a U2UG board election? I remember
> seeing that nominations were open back in November but nothing since. The
> website says the elections are open but in truth the elections are over,
> even
> the runoffs. I'm a member of the U2UG but I had no notification that the
> election was on, that there was a runoff, and now no notification of whom
> is
> on the board.
> Jerry
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[U2] AIX and UniData version compatibility for using ENCRYPT() function

2006-03-17 Thread Caleb Ng
We are currently running UniData 6.0.8 on AIX 5.1 on a 32-bit machine
and I'm trying to use the ENCRYPT() function for data encryption. 
However, I was told that AIX 5.1 doesn't have the underlying OpenSSL
libraries for ENCRYPT() to work so I'm trying to decide on an upgrade
path.  I looked at the compatibility matrix on IBM's site, however, I
wanted to get some feedback from current UniData users. 

Is there any reason not to upgrade to AIX 5.3?  
What version of 32-bit UniData should I upgrade to?
Should I upgrade UniData before AIX or does it matter?
Are there any "gotchas" to watch out for when upgrading?

I'm basing my assumptions on staying with the latest versions of O/S &
UniData but I could be wrong.  If anyone has any experience and
feedback, I would greatly appreciate it.

TIA,

Caleb Ng
Systems Analyst
Sweetwater Authority
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(619) 409-6763
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RE: [U2] U2 Board

2006-03-17 Thread leslie chamberlin
That's the last I heard also.  -Leslie Chamberlin

-Original Message-

I received notification in 2005, but not this year. The last email I
received was the following:

  Dana Baron<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to u2-users
 More options   Feb 2
 For those of you on this list who are U2UG members, you should be
receiving
instructions for voting in this year's board election soon. Due to
"technical difficulties" (mostly caused by me), the election has been
delayed. Stay tuned!

Thanks for your patience,


Dana Baron
U2UG Nominations & Elections
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RE: [U2] Changes to the List

2006-03-17 Thread Dave Tabor
Hi, 

Referring to the U2UG Charter:

Bullet #7 --> "To provide a forum for the promotion of excellence in 
information processing through recognition of individuals who exemplify the 
best in our profession in their work utilizing the U2 product line."
My thoughts:  It would seem to me that the promotion of excellence will not 
happen, when the provided 'excellence' is in the form of replies to specific 
users (Reply-To), and remains hidden from the rest of the group (Reply-To-All).

--- also ---

Bullet #8 --> "To promote the exchange of technical information among U2 users."
In my opinion, the exchange of technical information is being exchanged via 
roadblocks and hidden alleys.  

--- In conclusion ---

I've gotten a lot of great ideas from this list, and am saddened at the fact 
that I (along with many other newbies) won't see a lot of those, due to people 
with busy schedules forgetting to click the right button.  CHANGE IT BACK, 
PLEASE!!!

--- Questions for the moderators/board ---

1)  Did our 'founding fathers' really want it run the way it is currently being 
run?
2)  Shouldn't the current format require the board to do a U2UG Charter rewrite?

Thanks for allowing the thoughts of someone who actually learns from the posts 
on this list!
- Dave
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RE: [U2] U2 Board

2006-03-17 Thread Dave Tabor
Think they forgot to click 'Reply-to-all'?
(Sorry... my conscience lost on this one!)


-Original Message-
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chamberlin
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That's the last I heard also.  -Leslie Chamberlin

-Original Message-

I received notification in 2005, but not this year. The last email I
received was the following:

  Dana Baron<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to u2-users
 More options   Feb 2
 For those of you on this list who are U2UG members, you should be
receiving
instructions for voting in this year's board election soon. Due to
"technical difficulties" (mostly caused by me), the election has been
delayed. Stay tuned!

Thanks for your patience,


Dana Baron
U2UG Nominations & Elections
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RE: [U2] AIX and UniData version compatibility for using ENCRYPT() function

2006-03-17 Thread Jeff Schasny
Openssl can be downloaded and compiled from here:

http://www.openssl.org/

If you dont have a C compiler you can always get the compiled binaries from
here:

http://aixpdslib.seas.ucla.edu/


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Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:18 AM
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Subject: [U2] AIX and UniData version compatibility for using ENCRYPT()
function


We are currently running UniData 6.0.8 on AIX 5.1 on a 32-bit machine
and I'm trying to use the ENCRYPT() function for data encryption.
However, I was told that AIX 5.1 doesn't have the underlying OpenSSL
libraries for ENCRYPT() to work so I'm trying to decide on an upgrade
path.  I looked at the compatibility matrix on IBM's site, however, I
wanted to get some feedback from current UniData users.

Is there any reason not to upgrade to AIX 5.3?
What version of 32-bit UniData should I upgrade to?
Should I upgrade UniData before AIX or does it matter?
Are there any "gotchas" to watch out for when upgrading?

I'm basing my assumptions on staying with the latest versions of O/S &
UniData but I could be wrong.  If anyone has any experience and
feedback, I would greatly appreciate it.

TIA,

Caleb Ng
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Re: [U2] U2 Board

2006-03-17 Thread Louie Bergsagel
*Probably. **":)*
*Maybe a little more humor or humour would do us all good...*


On 3/17/06, Dave Tabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Think they forgot to click 'Reply-to-all'?
> (Sorry... my conscience lost on this one!)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of leslie
> chamberlin
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 12:47 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] U2 Board
>
>
> That's the last I heard also.  -Leslie Chamberlin
>
> -Original Message-
>
> I received notification in 2005, but not this year. The last email I
> received was the following:
>
>  Dana Baron<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to u2-users
> More options   Feb 2
> For those of you on this list who are U2UG members, you should be
> receiving
> instructions for voting in this year's board election soon. Due to
> "technical difficulties" (mostly caused by me), the election has been
> delayed. Stay tuned!
>
> Thanks for your patience,
>
>
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[U2] Spectrum conference

2006-03-17 Thread Dianne Ackerman
Did anyone attend the Spectrum conference?  I'd love to hear about it.  
I was also wondering about the outcome of this year's Database Challenge.

Thanks!
-Dianne
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Re: [U2] U2 Board

2006-03-17 Thread Jerry Banker
That's the last one I received.
  - Original Message -
  From: Louie Bergsagel
  To: Tom Dodds
  Cc: Jerry Banker ; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [U2] U2 Board


  I received notification in 2005, but not this year. The last email I
received was the following:


 Dana Baron   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to u2-users
More optionsFeb 2

  For those of you on this list who are U2UG members, you should be receiving
  instructions for voting in this year's board election soon. Due to
  "technical difficulties" (mostly caused by me), the election has been
  delayed. Stay tuned!

  Thanks for your patience,


  Dana Baron
  U2UG Nominations & Elections

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  On 3/17/06, Tom Dodds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am in the same position, I think.  Hard to tell sometimes if I am a
member
or not.

Tom Dodds
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630-235-2975 Cell


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:05 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] U2 Board

Did everybody know that we recently had a U2UG board election? I remember
seeing that nominations were open back in November but nothing since. The
website says the elections are open but in truth the elections are over,
even
the runoffs. I'm a member of the U2UG but I had no notification that the
election was on, that there was a runoff, and now no notification of whom
is
on the board.
Jerry
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RE: [U2] Excel from Unidata

2006-03-17 Thread Janet Bond
Hi Dave,

One idea for you would be to use our FusionWare ADO.Net Provider, using
ASP.NET, write an application that calls FusionWare ADO.NET to execute a
basic program that returns the data.  Then Create an instance of the
Excel Object and pump the data from the ADO.NET Dataset into the
spreadsheet.  Save it.  Ship it.


Janet Bond
FusionWare Corporation
1.866.266.2326 x159
 
 

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Subject: [U2] Excel from Unidata

Hi, 

I'd like to be able to create an excel file from a Unidata program to be
used for download on a website, without any user intervention.

Can anyone offer any tips/tricks to make this a simple process?

Thanks,
Dave

PS:  Unidata 6.0 / AIX 5.1
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RE: [U2] Spectrum conference

2006-03-17 Thread Kevin King
The database challenge was cancelled, unfortunately.  Spectrum was
fun, but I'll leave the details of the big news to someone like Nathan
or Clif. 

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Ackerman
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To: U2 List Server
Subject: [U2] Spectrum conference

Did anyone attend the Spectrum conference?  I'd love to hear about it.

I was also wondering about the outcome of this year's Database
Challenge.
Thanks!
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RE: [U2] Excel from Unidata

2006-03-17 Thread Piers Angliss
Dave,

There were a number of suggestions a few months ago, the more
straightforward were along the lines of "write csv or xml and let Excel sort
it out". If you specifically want a .xls file then Michael Doyle posted :

 On UNIX, use Perl. Specifically, use the Spreadsheet::WriteExcel and
Text::CSV modules. My csv2xls.pl script is only about 47 lines long.

The Spreadsheet::WriteExcel module was utter garbage a few years ago,
but thanks to the efforts of OpenOffice.org and the obvious benefits of
open source software, the module has improved by leaps and bounds. 

I don't know Perl but Google will probably yield some clues

hth

Piers

-Original Message-
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Sent: 17 March 2006 16:39
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Excel from Unidata


Hi,

I'd like to be able to create an excel file from a Unidata program to be
used for download on a website, without any user intervention.

Can anyone offer any tips/tricks to make this a simple process?

Thanks,
Dave

PS:  Unidata 6.0 / AIX 5.1
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Re: [U2] Changes to the List

2006-03-17 Thread Results

Dave,
As a founding father(?) I have to point out that the U2-Users list, 
U2-Community list, SBSolutions list, and RBSolutions lists aren't 
exactly part of the U2UG. Here's the real facts, just so all are clear:


   Mike O'Rear ran the list for eight years, on his dime and with his 
time. When he got tired, the list passed to Clif Oliver. Clif ran it for 
nine years. Clif offered the lists (Users & Community) to the U2UG to 
oversee. We don't *own* them, we mind the store on behalf of everyone. 
For the U2UG to run the lists, we needed help. Fortunately, Larry 
Hiscock stepped up.
SBSolutions started with Kevin King. He, like Clif, entrusted us to 
mind the store. RBSolutions started with Scott Rau. When Scott's work 
situation changed, he asked us to mind the store.  Larry hosts both of 
these lists as well.


The U2UG doesn't own any of these lists. We are the chosen 
caretakers. Having said all that, there is a move within the board to 
form a 'what next' committee. It is possible that what's next will be 
identical to 'what's now' but it may well go in other directions. Just 
remember that Larry and I moderate the lists as a volunteer activity. 
*Separately* from that I also happen to be on the U2UG board - also 
volunteer. We will do the best we can with the time and tools available. 
The lists are free (as in liberty) and free (as in beer). Hosting and 
managing them is free (as in free of payment). So long as it is 
appreciated, I don't mind putting in the time and I *want* your 
feedback. this topic started because *I* asked. So, let's keep a good 
face on it and see if we can't guide the list through another few 
decades of productive use.


- Chuck "History Books" Barouch

Dave Tabor wrote:

Hi, 


Referring to the U2UG Charter:

Bullet #7 --> "To provide a forum for the promotion of excellence in information 
processing through recognition of individuals who exemplify the best in our profession in 
their work utilizing the U2 product line."
My thoughts:  It would seem to me that the promotion of excellence will not 
happen, when the provided 'excellence' is in the form of replies to specific 
users (Reply-To), and remains hidden from the rest of the group (Reply-To-All).

--- also ---

Bullet #8 --> "To promote the exchange of technical information among U2 users."
In my opinion, the exchange of technical information is being exchanged via roadblocks and hidden alleys.  


--- In conclusion ---

I've gotten a lot of great ideas from this list, and am saddened at the fact 
that I (along with many other newbies) won't see a lot of those, due to people 
with busy schedules forgetting to click the right button.  CHANGE IT BACK, 
PLEASE!!!

--- Questions for the moderators/board ---

1)  Did our 'founding fathers' really want it run the way it is currently being 
run?
2)  Shouldn't the current format require the board to do a U2UG Charter rewrite?

Thanks for allowing the thoughts of someone who actually learns from the posts 
on this list!
- Dave
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RE: [U2] Excel from Unidata

2006-03-17 Thread Tony Gravagno
>> From: "Dave Tabor"
>> I'd like to be able to create an excel file from a Unidata program
>> to be used for download on a website, without any user intervention.

Dan Fitzgerald wrote:
> I did this once by  then tweaking an excel file to look right, and
> then ftp'ing it back to the server as a template, then populating it
> with data & naming it *.xls.

I hope you did a Save As XML and used that as a template rather than poking
a binary file?  This is probably the best, simple, free way to do Excel,
especially if your server is *nix.  An alternative these days is called
Visual Studio Tools for Office, and allows better programmatic control to
create Excel or Word docs without Office even being installed on the
system.  This can be driven from *nix, but of course the code must reside
in Windows - I specialize in this sort of inter-system processing and it's
an effective way of using the right tools for the job.

One can also use a simple comma or tab-delimited file, which seems to be
the standard preference among developers because it's simple.  I'm of the
opinion, sorry folks, that this just sends a message to end-users that we
don't know how to do anything better.  The good news is that most end-users
have come to accept plain text files from IT as being "Excel", so it's
tough to complain.  Excel is an amazingly powerful tool that more
sophisticateed end-users expect to display colors and formatted fields,
properly sized columns, charts and multiple worksheets, etc.  Many users
(feel free to ask them) will spend days reformatting the CSV data they get
from their IT people just so it's presentable to management, investors,
etc.  What do you do if your end-user wants totals highlighted in bold,
errors in red, embedded comments to explain the data, or merged cells show
a simple heading?

I'm not selling anything here, just encouraging people to get the most use
out of the tools available.  People usually ask for Excel for a reason -
getting flat files is easy but may not respond to the true business
requirements.  Let's make sure people don't blame our MultiValue technology
because we give them text files when they ask for GUI.

As an example of some Excel work that I've done, please have a look at this
product which is no longer offered, but one of these days I might resurrect
part of it.  This allows your MV BASIC code to completely drive Excel and
create complex workbooks.:
http:// removethisNebula-RnD.com/products/analysis.htm
Here is an audio/video presentation showing NebulAnalysis in action:
http:// removethisNebula-RnD.com/demos/nebulanalysis/

Inquiries are of course welcome but my real point is to look beyond
'simple' and really find out what your users want - they often won't tell
you when they're disappointed with things like this, they'll just accept
whatever they get, or start looking elsewhere.

Tony
Nebula Research and Development
TG@ remove-this-anti-spam-textNebula-RnD.com
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FW: [U2] Excel from Unidata

2006-03-17 Thread Jeff Schasny
I sent this off-list to Dave since the list strips attachments. If anyone
else wants a copy of the 3 subroutines let me know.

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Schasny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:49 AM
To: Dave Tabor
Subject: RE: [U2] Excel from Unidata


I do it from Universe all then time using the attached routines. Pass a
value mark delimited string for each line of data to HTML.LINE and then just
write OUTREC to a directory with a ".xls" extension and Excel will happily
open the HTML as a speadsheet.


Jeff Schasny | Westminster, CO, USA | [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [U2] Excel from Unidata

2006-03-17 Thread brian
If you want to try out various delimited formats (CSV, HTML, XML etc) you might 
want to check out Download from Cedarville:

ftp.cedarville.edu/download

It's free and simple to use, though it doesn't specifically offer XLS as a 
format. Otherwise you're into scripting Excel in some way.

Brian

>Dave,
>
>There were a number of suggestions a few months ago, the more
>straightforward were along the lines of "write csv or xml and let Excel sort
>it out". If you specifically want a .xls file then Michael Doyle posted :
>
> On UNIX, use Perl. Specifically, use the Spreadsheet::WriteExcel and
>Text::CSV modules. My csv2xls.pl script is only about 47 lines long.
>
>The Spreadsheet::WriteExcel module was utter garbage a few years ago,
>but thanks to the efforts of OpenOffice.org and the obvious benefits of
>open source software, the module has improved by leaps and bounds. 
>
>I don't know Perl but Google will probably yield some clues
>
>hth
>
>Piers
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Tabor
>Sent: 17 March 2006 16:39
>To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>Subject: [U2] Excel from Unidata
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I'd like to be able to create an excel file from a Unidata program to be
>used for download on a website, without any user intervention.
>
>Can anyone offer any tips/tricks to make this a simple process?
>
>Thanks,
>Dave
>
>PS:  Unidata 6.0 / AIX 5.1
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RE: [U2] AIX and UniData version compatibility for using ENCRYPT() function

2006-03-17 Thread Tom Dodds
We had an issue with encrypt on UniVerse and I am not sure if the same issue
exists within UniData.

With UniVerse, the IBM encryption routines were incompatible with Windows
encryption routines.  It was, I believe, found that there was a problem with
the IBM version and that the problem had been fixed for a sub.release of
10.1, but I am not sure about UniData.  It may be worth checking into prior
to deciding to which release you want to migrate.

HTH 

Tom Dodds
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
708-234-9608 Office
630-235-2975 Cell


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caleb Ng
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:18 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] AIX and UniData version compatibility for using ENCRYPT()
function

We are currently running UniData 6.0.8 on AIX 5.1 on a 32-bit machine
and I'm trying to use the ENCRYPT() function for data encryption. 
However, I was told that AIX 5.1 doesn't have the underlying OpenSSL
libraries for ENCRYPT() to work so I'm trying to decide on an upgrade
path.  I looked at the compatibility matrix on IBM's site, however, I
wanted to get some feedback from current UniData users. 

Is there any reason not to upgrade to AIX 5.3?  
What version of 32-bit UniData should I upgrade to?
Should I upgrade UniData before AIX or does it matter?
Are there any "gotchas" to watch out for when upgrading?

I'm basing my assumptions on staying with the latest versions of O/S &
UniData but I could be wrong.  If anyone has any experience and
feedback, I would greatly appreciate it.

TIA,

Caleb Ng
Systems Analyst
Sweetwater Authority
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[U2] [u2] Universe Release Notes for Universe 10.0 or 10.1 for UNIX Servers

2006-03-17 Thread Denny Watkins

U2er's,

I cannot find any Universe Release Notes for Universe 10.0 or 10.1 for 
Unix servers (ala IBM AIX p-series).  The only choice is for AIX POWER.


All I see is something like the following for 10.0

UniVerse For Windows NT
Release 10.0.0
Release Notes
December, 2001


for Universe 10.1.2


UniVerse For Windows NT
Version 10.1
Release Notes
September, 2003


Are there any Release notes available for just the Unix machines?
If so, is there a URL available?

Thanks In Advance,

Denny Watkins
Morningside College
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[U2] Testing for an open PC file!

2006-03-17 Thread Bright, Frank
To All:

I have been using WIN.PCOPEN to test to see if a PC file is open by
another program.  But the routine does not give me an error if a program
has a PC file already open.  It works if WIN.PCOPEN has already opened a
file handle.  But not if a PC program has the file open.  Is there
another way to test if a PC file is open or are there options that I
need to set with WIN.PCOPEN??

Thanks in Advance!!

_
Frank M. Bright
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Administrative Computing
University of the Arts (A15)
http://www.uarts.edu
215-717-6081(w)
Coll 17.0.14  AIX 5.2.0.4  Uni 6.03
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RE: [U2] [UD] Triggers

2006-03-17 Thread Bill Haskett
Ken:

...Original Message... from Ken Wallis

> It sounds like you feel exactly the same about UniData as I 
> did about D3 when I spent a few months contracting at a D3 
> shop - antiquated stuff, how can anybody work with this when
> xxx is so much better?

Yea.  There's a lot about D3 that wears on anyone; this explains why a lot
of people want to convert.  :-)

> I'm not sure which MV enhancements you mean, but I suspect 
> the issue is really one of adapting to looking at things from
> a different perspective.

I would like to think our "perspective" differences is a basis for product
improvement.  :-)  You should see what Microsoft has done with SQL Server
2005 and their admin tools; an impressive improvement from SQL Server 2000.


Raining Data doesn't have the resources to achieve anywhere near this kind
of improvement to D3.  With IBM, however, one would think they would
understand U2 can be improved (mostly to assist conversions and new users).
I can only hope IBM will take the attitude that U2 can, and should, be
improved to bring in other MV applications and encourage new application
development.

As always, thanks for your help and kind comments.  :-)

Bill 
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RE: [U2] Changes to the List

2006-03-17 Thread Bob Little
So long as it is 
appreciated, I don't mind putting in the time and I *want* your 
feedback. this topic started because *I* asked. So, let's keep a good 
face on it and see if we can't guide the list through another few 
decades of productive use.

 - Chuck "History Books" Barouch

---

Hi,

I'm pretty much a lurker here and still very, very new to U2.  I do
value the expertise available to me here on these lists, and the time
and energy it takes to maintain them.

So long as I know how to reply to the list, and how to filter the
incoming messages so they go into right folders on my end, I don't care
how the lists are set up.  Having said that, I guess I do prefer the
email list setup as opposed to a Google-type thingy.

I don't know /jack squat/ about running a mailing list or a newsgroup,
so thank you to you folks who do this work.


Bob Little
UniVerse Developer
Market America, Inc.
(336) 478-1694
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RE: [U2] Excel from Unidata

2006-03-17 Thread Michael Doyle
Mr. Angliss:

It seems that there's been some namespace shuffling. To generate binary
excel files, use Spreadsheet::SimpleExcel, documented here:

http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/htdocs/Spreadsheet-SimpleExcel/Spreadsheet/SimpleExcel.html

For the new-fangled XML format that Microsoft is moving toward, use
Spreadsheet::WriteExcelXML, documented here:

http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/htdocs/Spreadsheet-WriteExcelXML/Spreadsheet/WriteExcelXML.html

Thanks,

Michael Doyle
Linux Administrator / Developer


On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 18:55 +, Piers Angliss wrote:
> Dave,
> 
> There were a number of suggestions a few months ago, the more
> straightforward were along the lines of "write csv or xml and let Excel sort
> it out". If you specifically want a .xls file then Michael Doyle posted :
> 
>  On UNIX, use Perl. Specifically, use the Spreadsheet::WriteExcel and
> Text::CSV modules. My csv2xls.pl script is only about 47 lines long.
> 
> The Spreadsheet::WriteExcel module was utter garbage a few years ago,
> but thanks to the efforts of OpenOffice.org and the obvious benefits of
> open source software, the module has improved by leaps and bounds. 
> 
> I don't know Perl but Google will probably yield some clues
> 
> hth
> 
> Piers
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Tabor
> Sent: 17 March 2006 16:39
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] Excel from Unidata
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to be able to create an excel file from a Unidata program to be
> used for download on a website, without any user intervention.
> 
> Can anyone offer any tips/tricks to make this a simple process?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
> 
> PS:  Unidata 6.0 / AIX 5.1
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Re: [U2] [u2] Universe Release Notes for Universe 10.0 or 10.1 for UNIX Servers

2006-03-17 Thread Jerry Banker

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/100univ/univ_101.html

About half way down the page.


- Original Message - 
From: "Denny Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 2:08 PM
Subject: [U2] [u2] Universe Release Notes for Universe 10.0 or 10.1 for UNIX 
Servers




U2er's,

I cannot find any Universe Release Notes for Universe 10.0 or 10.1 for 
Unix servers (ala IBM AIX p-series).  The only choice is for AIX POWER.


All I see is something like the following for 10.0

UniVerse For Windows NT
Release 10.0.0
Release Notes
December, 2001


for Universe 10.1.2


UniVerse For Windows NT
Version 10.1
Release Notes
September, 2003


Are there any Release notes available for just the Unix machines?
If so, is there a URL available?

Thanks In Advance,

Denny Watkins
Morningside College
Email:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[U2] D3 to UD conversion

2006-03-17 Thread David Wolverton
I have a site running D3 Linux that is small, and would benefit from
WorkGroup pricing - their current annual maintenance in D3 is the same as
new IBM UniData Seats will run...

It this strictly a 'media move' - in that I cannot really use a network or
file to do the move?

The client is not that big, but the tape drive they have on their Linux box
is not anything I have on my Windows2K3 Server -- 

Is there a good way/any to do a Unix File move such that I make a 'pseudo
floppy/pseudo tape' on D3 and then take the resulting file and feed it into
UniData's Account Restore process?

One of the reasons I was so keen on Bill's experience was that it sounded
like experience I was about to have!

David W.
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[U2] RE: Google _is_ email

2006-03-17 Thread Tony Gravagno
Bob Little wrote:
> I guess I do prefer the email list setup as opposed to a Google-type
thingy.

If this question ever does come to some kind of vote, people need to
understand what they're voting for and against.  Google mail works exactly
the same as what we have here, just a different address and no ReplyTo
confusion.  You do not need to read Google groups in a browser, mail comes
to you just like it does now, individually or in digest.  Reading forums
from a browser is an option for people who want to do so.

This is not to express opinion about the topic of changing lists, just to
correct what seems to be a common misunderstanding of the options.  I'm
sure mods will want replies to go to the community list but I'm not
subscribed there.
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Fw: [U2] D3 to UD conversion

2006-03-17 Thread Wally Terhune
I know of a U2 partner who used a D3 pseudo drive and wrote T-DUMP/T-LOAD
routines to migrate data to UniData. Don't know the details, though.

Wally Terhune
U2 Support Architect
IBM Information Management
4700 South Syracuse Street, Denver, CO   80237
Tel:  303.773.7969
Fax: 303.773.5915
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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I have a site running D3 Linux that is small, and would benefit from
WorkGroup pricing - their current annual maintenance in D3 is the same as
new IBM UniData Seats will run...

It this strictly a 'media move' - in that I cannot really use a network or
file to do the move?

The client is not that big, but the tape drive they have on their Linux box
is not anything I have on my Windows2K3 Server --

Is there a good way/any to do a Unix File move such that I make a 'pseudo
floppy/pseudo tape' on D3 and then take the resulting file and feed it into
UniData's Account Restore process?

One of the reasons I was so keen on Bill's experience was that it sounded
like experience I was about to have!

David W.
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[U2] append ENGLISH.MSG error

2006-03-17 Thread Kevin King
I am trying to compile something on Unidata 6.0PE and up until
recently it has worked just marvelously.  Today, when I try to compile
I get this:
 
append ENGLISH.MSG error.
Error msgno = 50054. args = file\item p
 
The record 50054 is indeed in ENGLISH.MSG, and I've run guide on
ENGLISH.MSG with no errors found, rebooted that machine, and still no
love.  Any ideas?
 
-Kevin
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http://www.PrecisOnline.com
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RE: [U2] D3 to UD conversion

2006-03-17 Thread Bill Haskett
David:

Colin Alfke was able to use the UniData "ACCOUNT.RESTORE" utility.  He was
smart enough to get IBM support and not do this on UD PE.  I'm going to
purchase a 10 seat copy of UD for development and support this week.  :-)

With the appropriate D3 backup (the correct block size) data movement should
be pretty straightforward.  Colin sent me some instructions that I'd be
happy to forward to you if you need them.

Let me know if I can help.  :-)

Bill Haskett
 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> David Wolverton
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 3:48 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] D3 to UD conversion
> 
> I have a site running D3 Linux that is small, and would benefit from
> WorkGroup pricing - their current annual maintenance in D3 is 
> the same as
> new IBM UniData Seats will run...
> 
> It this strictly a 'media move' - in that I cannot really use 
> a network or
> file to do the move?
> 
> The client is not that big, but the tape drive they have on 
> their Linux box
> is not anything I have on my Windows2K3 Server -- 
> 
> Is there a good way/any to do a Unix File move such that I 
> make a 'pseudo
> floppy/pseudo tape' on D3 and then take the resulting file 
> and feed it into
> UniData's Account Restore process?
> 
> One of the reasons I was so keen on Bill's experience was 
> that it sounded
> like experience I was about to have!
> 
> David W.
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RE: [U2] D3 to UD conversion

2006-03-17 Thread Bill Haskett
Dave:

Please feel free to post here, or to David directly.

I haven't really wanted to irritate anyone on the list here; rather I've
tried to just be as helpful as I can to those who can use the help.  To such
an end, I've been sending a fair number of emails off list.  Those who've
contacted me directly have been extremely kind and helpful, as has also, of
course, been those who've posted publicly.

Bill
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 7:04 PM
> To: Bill Haskett
> Subject: Fw: [U2] D3 to UD conversion
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Your very helpful comments to me today appeared to be sent 
> only to me and
> not the the list.
> 
> I think they would be most helpful also to David Wolverton 
> who has been a
> part of this conversation in other msgs on the list.
> 
> I would like to forward your comments to David if I have your 
> permission,
> unless  you have already done so.
> 
> Please let me know if this would be all right with you.
> 
> I will also mention our TAPE.DUMP and TAPE.LOAD programs and 
> our desire to
> port our generic Pick spooler from Universe to Unidata.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave Taylor
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Wally Terhune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 4:09 PM
> Subject: Fw: [U2] D3 to UD conversion
> 
> 
> > I know of a U2 partner who used a D3 pseudo drive and wrote 
> T-DUMP/T-LOAD
> > routines to migrate data to UniData. Don't know the details, though.
> >
> > Wally Terhune
> > U2 Support Architect
> > IBM Information Management
> > 4700 South Syracuse Street, Denver, CO   80237
> > Tel:  303.773.7969
> > Fax: 303.773.5915
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > - Forwarded by Wally Terhune/Denver/IBM on 03/17/2006 
> 05:06 PM -
> >
> >  "David Wolverton"
> >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  et>
> To
> >  Sent by:  
> 
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> cc
> >  stserver.u2ug.org
> > 
>Subject
> >[U2] D3 to UD conversion
> >  03/17/2006 04:48
> >  PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a site running D3 Linux that is small, and would benefit from
> > WorkGroup pricing - their current annual maintenance in D3 
> is the same as
> > new IBM UniData Seats will run...
> >
> > It this strictly a 'media move' - in that I cannot really 
> use a network or
> > file to do the move?
> >
> > The client is not that big, but the tape drive they have on 
> their Linux
> box
> > is not anything I have on my Windows2K3 Server --
> >
> > Is there a good way/any to do a Unix File move such that I 
> make a 'pseudo
> > floppy/pseudo tape' on D3 and then take the resulting file 
> and feed it
> into
> > UniData's Account Restore process?
> >
> > One of the reasons I was so keen on Bill's experience was 
> that it sounded
> > like experience I was about to have!
> >
> > David W.
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