Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Site

2013-01-28 Thread Michael Nolan
I'd say B, it seems to have more promise when it's done. I like the format 
better.
~Michael

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:04:17 -0500
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Site

A. 5 votesB. 4 votes
C. 0 votes
D. 1 vote
E. 0 votes
Total votes: 9

And this is the detail: 
Gabriel (gabo.xan...@gmail.com) - A
Thomas (dog1...@hotmail.com)  - B
Jackson (hawks...@hawks008.dyndns.org) - D
TheVirtualDragon (avlabs...@gmail.com) - B
George (grstre...@me.com) - A
Connor (con...@connorpeet.com) - BRoopa (roopa...@gmail.com) - B
Krzystof (krzys...@sth-group.pl) - AMatt (elsberrym...@gmail.com) - AMarco 
(ilmar...@yahoo.it) - A
Thanks,Thomas Corwin
On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Thomas Corwin dog1...@hotmail.com wrote:


A. 4 votes
B. 4 votes
C. 0 votes
D. 1 vote
E. 0 votes
Total votes: 9

And this is the detail: 
Gabriel (gabo.xan...@gmail.com) - A
Thomas (dog1...@hotmail.com)  - B
Jackson (hawks...@hawks008.dyndns.org) - D
TheVirtualDragon (avlabs...@gmail.com) - B
George (grstre...@me.com) - A
Connor (con...@connorpeet.com) - BRoopa (roopa...@gmail.com) - B
Krzystof (krzys...@sth-group.pl) - AMatt (elsberrym...@gmail.com) - A
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Issue 1.2 of Libre Graphics Magazine is out.

2011-03-27 Thread Michael
Thanks, Saleel, that's a fantastic tip. I myself just subscribed! On 

Tue, 2011-03-22 at 08:43 -0400, Saleel Velankar wrote:

 http://libregraphicsmag.com/
 
 While this isn't directly related to ubuntu, I still think its well worth 
 mentioning.
 
 --Saleel
 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Regarding my icons and igorance

2009-05-06 Thread Michael Stephenson
I thought it was a good icon, and potentially a very nice
ubuntu-studio icon, but not fitting with the breathe set.
It's a fun and cute icon, I would not describe breathe as fun and
cute. A good basis for an alternate ubuntu-studio set.
My opinion isn't worth anything, but you were looking for some kind of
feedback, so there you go.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Regarding my icons and ignorance

2009-05-06 Thread Michael Stephenson
2009/5/7 Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com:
 Baldur Pétursson Blöndal wrote:
 Hello, I'm a bit of a newcomer although I've been reading this
 mailing-list for quite some time now

 I'm not completely sure how this works though (I'm not ever sure about
 using a mailing-list) so please be kind :) could anyone recommend an
 icon that I should do (in the Breathe set right)?

 Since it's my first time here I'd just like someone to tell me draw
 this icon and then do it. What program is best/do you use creating
 vector images? Inkscape?

 Sorry for the awkward post, I'm normally not like this but I want to be
 on the safe side on this.


 Do you have a place that shows previous work?



 Whoa I have no idea how to reply here, I hope this works.

 Hi Cory,
 no I used to work on some icons before but I don't have anything to show
 for that I'm afraid since I deleted it all a long time ago, I mostly
 draw now but I doubt that would be of any interest to you (my work is
 not quite bad)


 I don't get (that last part)

 Of course you aren't going to accept work from just anybody and I should
 have seen this coming- should I try making an icon or two, submit them
 here and see what you guys think?

 That would be fine.

 If you like them then I'm glad to be
 of any help but if you don't I'll leave it to you guys


 No need to be dramatic. ;)

 And please keep the topics consistent. No need to change the topic that
 way. :) Or at least change it to something, Like How do I get involved. ;)


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Don't know how you managed to do that but the subject is in reply to
Ufuk but the message body is in reply to Baldur Pétursson Blöndal

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Wallpaper Photo Pack

2009-04-12 Thread Michael Stephenson
 I would say that with both Hardy and Intrepid the way mascots was
 included in the artwork was truly art and worked out fantastically.

I'm just guessing but I imagine that decision was Jaunty specific, You
can draw a Heron and a Ibex, and majestic and element animals. Whereas
whichever way you spin it, a Jackalope is a bunny rabbit with reindeer
horns. It's hard to imagine a wallpaper which uses a Jackalope and
remains stylish and cool rather than a bit of a joke.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Countdown Banner

2009-03-25 Thread Michael Stephenson
2009/3/25 Matthew Nuzum matthew.nu...@canonical.com

 2009/3/25 John Baer bae...@gmail.com:
  Jaunty Beta is out tomorrow, what is the status of the count down
  banner?
 

 If you were on the web presence team mailing list you'd know, but
 since you're not you'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out. But,
 the good news is, tomorrow you will have an answer. ;-)


Or you could check out the wiki
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/JauntyCountdownBanners#Final,%20with%20slideshow
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Re: [ubuntu-art] A note on wallpaper dimensions

2009-03-05 Thread Michael McKinley
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Dylan McCall dylanmcc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just recently I got a totally awesome 24 monitor. (Yay! It's a Samsung
 T240, going up from a Dell 17. I can't get over how big it is).

 To my dismay, Ubuntu's default wallpaper was stretched way beyond its means
 at the monitor's native resolution (1920x1200). GNOME's backgrounds all look
 fine; they seem to standardize on fitting precisely that. It looks like most
 other operating systems shoot for the same target, including Windows.

 Perhaps Ubuntu should aim for the same as well, since 1080p is getting quite
 common in computer displays and will probably remain standard for a while.
 It is a shame to think that users with beautiful displays are welcomed to a
 new Ubuntu release by fuzzy, stretched graphics.

 Thanks,

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In a similar vein, ensuring that the wallpapers look good on different
aspect ratios is important as well.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] alpha wallpaper and icon needed

2008-12-30 Thread Michael McKinley
I like Miffan a lot - great work on it.  The only problem is that
the colors don't look Ubuntu-y.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] system-file-manager and applications-office

2008-12-30 Thread Michael McKinley
 I uploaded to the wiki new versions of system-file-manager and
 applications-office.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
system-file-manager2 is great, but the smallest icon size is somewhat
hard to make out.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] applications-internet

2008-12-09 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/12/9 spg76 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I uploaded to the wiki icons for applications-internet.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions

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 Although I like the look and style of your grid, you can tell it is just an
approximation.
Your parallels are good, but your meridians don't look right, for example
the second and third meridian from the left appear parallel in the southern
hemisphere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereographic_projection
Some of the maths here may be of use to you, is it possible to code that
kind of thing with svg?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Art opinions

2008-11-28 Thread Michael Stephenson
Sorry about last night, I got sucked into replying to defend my position,
which I have very little personal interest in.
My opinion was not that top posting is good, behaviours of people not
following netiquette should of course be corrected,
just that you can chastise and be rude to people while still saying please,
it's not what you say it is the way you say it,
and too often people's first post to this list results in their opinion
being completely belittled/ignored followed by a top posting
comment. Which would feel like you are showing them the door.
Sorry Cory, I appreciate you are the only sane factor on this list, my only
real opinion is that you could word things more
nicely to make people feel more welcome and that could have been summed up
in one sentence in one post without
needing defending and without any inflammatory language.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Art opinions

2008-11-27 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/11/27 SorinN [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ..to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I don't know why you like to tease peoples ? I see that before.
 If he ..top-post,  tell him normally something like : - hey man please
 don't top post, we try to keep clean here.

 It's enough.
 Don't forget Ubuntu is all in all about humanity ..to us and to
 others. Than mean sometimes to retain first impulse and to use our
 good resources,

 2008/11/27 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  mr wrote:
   2008/11/27 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
   mr wrote:
They are nice but some look like a Mac, I don't want icons to
 look
like Mac's because I chose Ubuntu not Mac..
  
   Drawing in a realistic style will always get that comparison. You
   don't
   have to use them. :)
  
   If you're not working on the set or have nothing technical to say
 I'd
   like everyone to just keep it to themselves. ;)
  
   I only post to the list to keep the few people around here that
   actually
   work on things informed. I could move it to a different list to
 avoid
   the peanut gallery. ;)
  
  
  
   no need for insults
 
  It wasn't personal. Please don't top-post.
 
  -Cory K.
 
 
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I agree with SorinN. Cory, evidently you are a very upfront, confrontational
guy, and that's good, but there comes to a point where you are just plain
rude.
Which was fine when you were one voice among many on this list, but you
became defacto community leader for this list, and the only member to openly
support you on this list was me, and then Kenneth Wilmer in irc.
In this particular case your best response would be:

Although this project uses this list to announce additions, please note
this is not an official ubuntu project and is created by likeminded people
for likeminded people, a subset of the ubuntu art community. Feel free to
begin your own project with your own goals, their are probably many
community members which watch this list, which feel the same way

You seem to have forgotten the appointed role as community leader.
You shouldn't make people frightended to speak, or frightened to reply for
fear of not matching your fascistly applied posting rules.
Top posting is annoying yes, but should you be so cold in your advice?
You should consider your role aswell as chastising people for not meeting
theirs.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Canonical's approach to Jaunty

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/11/4 Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  rhythmbox and nautilus or totem, or openoffice which is the ugliest thing
 ever.


What do people expect from totem? its a media player, it has a viewing
window play/pause, skip forwards and skip backwards and volume, how do you
jazz that up without adding meaningless crap?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Canonical's approach to Jaunty

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Stephenson
I can't see how you could use up some of the wasted space without adding
redundant buttons, perhaps making the control buttons central would make it
appear as if less space was being wasted? I'd need to see a mockup of a
better totem to be convinced it needs work.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] intrepid update

2008-10-10 Thread Michael Stephenson
So we can safely assume that the human-theme package is representative of
the final look of Intrepid?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyūdō: Audience and Message

2008-09-27 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/9/27 Joshua Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 There are only seven movie editors I can find. Cinelerra may be
 professional, but it has nowhere near the potential that the easy interface
 of Windows Movie Maker had. The only thing that is Gnome-based and that
 seems to have a nice interface is Kino, and it *doesn't even have a
 timeline. *How are you supposed to make a movie without a timeline?

 The only other program that does have a timeline is Kdenlive, but it's for
 KDE and for some reason crashes whenever I use it. Plus there hasn't been an
 update since 2007, and the latest news is from June 26, 2008.

 The new version was scheduled for release in March. And the year is almost
 through. It's definitely time for a new movie editor, one that has all the
 functionality of Kdenlive and the usability of Kino.


FYI Kino is KDE based, not Gnome based. Have you tried Pitivi? It has a good
time line, a very intuitive interface.
It is lacking in features, but what it does do it does right. There is no
need for a *new* movie editor, because
when Pitivi gets there it will what most people want from a video editor.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyūdō: Audience and Message

2008-09-27 Thread Michael Stephenson


 FYI Kino is KDE based, not Gnome based.

Disregard that, I am an idiot the K always threw me.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67

2008-09-26 Thread Michael Garate
I'm really disappointed if the new theme has been postponed again. This is
exactly what happened for the hardy release :(
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Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67

2008-09-26 Thread Michael Stephenson
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 20:16 +0800, symon cadwallender wrote:
 Lol. What do you expect from Ubuntu. They will never have a good
 theme, either will Gnome. Gnome havn't got the balls to do it, Go Kde.
 Im so sick of Ubuntu and Gnome and their 1980's mentality that i just
 switched to Opensuse/Mandriva Kde. Atleast Kde are more in touch with
 today's standard. 'F ubuntu and gnome'
 By the way, how the hell do I unsubscribe from this shit. Im so sick
 of ubuntu
 kaddy

See this link at the bottom of every post, click it.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Good riddance Troll.



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Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/9/11 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Dylan McCall wrote:
  Odysseus Flappington wrote:
 
  I think just by slotting in the word 'community' into the definition,
  you're already implying that you aren't affiliated with Ubuntu
  officially, and have no decision making power in regards to the
  default theme.
 
  Is this a problem for you or anyone?
 
 
  I do find this a bit of a problem. I like the idea (no, /love/ the
  idea!) of a diverse community themes pack. I also think that people
  should create a lot of high quality themes for that package and not
  always aim at taking top slot as default theme. Of course, community
  themes are still Ubuntu themes so would ideally follow the palette.
 

 Agreed. But, I would not be opposed to say a great blue theme if it was
 of quality and a big push from the community.

  With lots of open source projects, I get the distinct impression that
  artwork is based on a totally different set of rules than code.

 I would say very much so. But there are, or can be common framework.

  Case
  in point, Mozilla and that Iceweasel fiasco -- largely because Debian
  wanted to use completely free artwork.
 

 Nothing wrong with that. Just a pain.

  Over here in Ubuntu, I think it is an issue that the theme work and
  theme decision making is very quiet. I'm not saying that it isn't
  open, because Ken does just fine answering questions. (Besides that,
  it ultimately boils down to - paraphrasing - nobody can explain it,
  but Mark just has naturally good taste in colours). However, when
  people think of the official theme as detached from the community
  here, we run the risk of a situation developing just like Mozilla's.
  With art, the community contributes ideas, and -- just like with code
  -- those ideas occasionally find their way into official work when the
  maintainers like them. The difference here is that those ideas tend to
  be just ideas rather than measurable things (eg: specific changes to
  an options dialog).
 
  It would help if the folks behind the default theme were a little bit
  more inclusing visible about their own work there, just like the
  different groups working on community themes. That would help reduce
  some confusion here with regards to what is being done, it would be
  more productive and it would give the art development that touch of
  openness it needs. The default theme would stop being some kind of
  looming Goliath figure and simply be a part amongst us mortals.

 Well Ken W and Mark says what's default. Ken is pretty open about what
 he is doing. It's usually in a PPA or development version of Ubuntu.

 The problem is that it's not been clearly communicated that default is
 not this teams target. That's what I'm hoping to do with this current
 discussion.

 Come to some kinda consensus as to the description so it can be clearly
 posted on LP and the wiki. Then, move on with what we actually want to
 achieve in a given cycle, as a team.


What is the artwork team?
'A transient group of disparate individuals chirping away in a mailing list,
and finding that it is all in vain anyway, only to stop posting to the list
having achieved little before eventually unsubscribing.' A perfect example
of this is Salane Ashcroft I believe his name was, who was all over the
mailing list a few months back, anyone who would have joined the list back
then would have thought he was artwork community leader. From Cory's posts
in the last few days it looks as if he is trying to gain some kind of order,
and a bid for community leader for himself, I don't post to this list often
but I do try to keep up to date with the happenings, and I have to say this
is probably exactly what is needed. The Artwork Team is a misnomer, it is
not a team in any definition of the word, it should follow a development
cycle, have submission deadlines. If Cory has a plan to transform this list
into a real community team, just appoint him community-leader and focus on
how the development cycle should be arranged for 9.04. He is the only
possible candidate anyway and its damn obvious this community needs someone
like him to kick some ass and get it working like it should be.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Michael Stephenson
Well at the moment it is exactly how I described it, nothing more than
voices on a mailing list, if that is what a community art team is, it isn't
productive and is doomed to forever be a bunch of people chirping away in
vain. Unless you or someone else provides an alternative structure to kick
start the art team into something tangible.
Michael

2008/9/12 Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I wouldn't agree with that, since I don't agree with Cory's design
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Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/9/12 Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Why is there a need?

 Here's how it works - art team provides themes, Canonical chooses.

 That won't change.

 So what change would you like? Have a boss who tells each artist what to do
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The community provides themes anyway, that's what gnome-look is for.
Like I have said this isn't a team, this is a mailing list. Perhaps
Canonical would take the team more seriously, and more successes would be
achieved from this list if there were a structure emulating the kind of
order that exists inside Canonical itself. There is a hell of a lot of noise
on the list and on the wiki, that's created purely though default theme
ambition. Case in point,  there was a little bit of talk about shiki-colors
by perfectska04, which is a very good theme with alot of potential he posted
once on the list once or twice, where is he now? Is it that lack of
persistance in list posting caused it to fade into obscurity? Certainly not
because he doesn't have the persistance to work on his themes. I couldn't
possibly be considered a member of the team, but this is how the list seems
to me, rather fruitless.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/9/12 Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I see no clearly proposed solution except something, I don't know what,
 needs to be done!.

 By the way, mailing lists are how people cooperate on the Internet. Really.
 It's been done so for decades even.

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 What I am saying is that the needs to be a differentiation between people
that post on the list (me) and the team (does not yet exist)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/9/12 Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Please do not straw man me, I subscribe to other mailing lists, non of them
 ubuntu and non are censored. I am not advocating that the mailing list
 should change, just that team should not be synonymous with the mailing
 list.



 Well, then, I resign from this conversation, because I see absolutely zero
 point or helpfulness in doing that. Nor how are you going to accomplish that
 - kick out all non-artists or something? Heh.

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It is an art mailing list, what is important is the outcome. Someone could
conceivably create an svg icon in gedit, does that make them less of an
artist than someone who made it in inkscape? No, your argument is another
straw man. The helpfulness is that in every other project the mailing list
doesn't constitute a team, and I don't see any reason that the art team
should be any different, it is a meritocracy after all.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust theme implementation

2008-08-26 Thread Michael McKinley
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:09 AM, Nicholas Kraak [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Most the comments from the theme so far have been that looks like OSX and
 that's not Ubuntu. Here's something to address that, I think. Might I
 suggest an alternate color scheme which would be more Ubuntu-like:

   http://dump.ambiescent.com/i/dust-color-1a.png
   http://dump.ambiescent.com/i/dust-color-1b.png


 Looks good, might I suggest though, changing that pressed in tab on the
 second screenshot (where it says rsc) to a lighter, fresher orange (eg;
 *#FC9523*). Many of the people who dislike the current pallet rather
 orange over brown.

I disagree.  I like the way the reddish-brown looks with the black.  I think
a bright orange would look out-of-place.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Background Concept

2008-08-11 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/8/11 symon cadwallender [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Damn the link says the pic has been deleted.
 I really really like these mockups. It can't be beat! Minus the Dock
 though.
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-1-93584571
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-3-93585184

 What does everybody else think?
 kaddy.


https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2008-August/thread.html#7109
This was discussed in depth a few days ago.
You should also take a look at this before someone tells you off.

http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists/etiquette#head-c70bc55ce24849bd82885e8b0f7e972465944b5a

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting#Top-posting

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors

2008-08-08 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/8/8 Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 The most noticeable changes are:
 -Menus/Menubars are light. While this takes a bit away from the original
 appeal of the theme, it is much more compatible and way less buggy with
 non-gtk apps (firefox 3).


I personally would would rather you kept it as it is already with respect to
this,
Firefox 3 seems fine to me and it is a very big factor in the appeal of the
theme,
Also I think the theme would be nicer with the scrollbar in the gray/brown
colour
and the contrast would help discern it against the light background.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael
is that sarcasm i smell?! :p

2008/8/4 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that I
 found for ubuntu.
 First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a
 great concept. you can check it out at
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910
 .
 I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know I
 did!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael
Yeah, I think trying a new theme that still resembles the colors of Ubunut
would be a great hit.
BTW, who actually makes the decisions as to what is shipped with Ubuntu?
Thanks

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Justin Dugger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that
  I found for ubuntu.
  First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a
  great concept. you can check it out at
 
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910
 .
  I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know
  I did!
 
  Regards,
  Mike
 
  Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?

 Because they're not open source, cost significant money and not
 Ubuntu? Seriously though, the hate for things that resembles OSX
 simply because they resemble OSX is getting old and is basically an
 argument for the status quo.  The status quo is somewhere north of
 MacOS 9, I think.

 Intrepid is the perfect time to try out new themes and UI -- the last
 release was an LTS so people wary of retraining have something else to
 fall back on, and we'll have the largest amount of time possible for
 feedback and testing.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael
is this it?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Long_Term_Vision?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=LTV_WindowandGlobalMenu.png

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:35 AM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:24 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, I think trying a new theme that still resembles the colors of Ubunut
 would be a great hit.
 BTW, who actually makes the decisions as to what is shipped with Ubuntu?
 Thanks

 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Justin Dugger  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that
  I found for ubuntu.
  First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a
  great concept. you can check it out at
 
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910
 .
  I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know
  I did!
 
  Regards,
  Mike
 
  Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?

 Because they're not open source, cost significant money and not
 Ubuntu? Seriously though, the hate for things that resembles OSX
 simply because they resemble OSX is getting old and is basically an
 argument for the status quo.  The status quo is somewhere north of
 MacOS 9, I think.

 Intrepid is the perfect time to try out new themes and UI -- the last
 release was an LTS so people wary of retraining have something else to
 fall back on, and we'll have the largest amount of time possible for
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Wall-light

2008-08-04 Thread Michael
Sorry for the top post, I'm new to mailing list etiquette.
Yeah, I noticed the OSX influence on it, but does that mean we should avoid
it? Look at AWN, it's popular because it's functional, yet it was derived
from OSX. I was just posting this as inspiration.
I'm not suggesting ubuntu ships with AWN or OSX icons, but I like the colors
of the borders, the backgrounds, and even the warning box. Gnome theme's
don't make it to the front page of digg. This design is very eye catchy, and
I don't see why we would be opposed to giving Ubuntu a breathe of fresh air.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alexi Helligar wrote:
  On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I'd just like to show my support, as many other people positively had,
 for
  this theme: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Intrepid_Ibex_Mockup_Designs
 
  Cheers.
 
  This theme is a closer to what I think Ubuntu should be working
  towards for Intrepid. I don't think there should be as many rounded
  corners as in the mock-ups.

 Please don't top-post.

 Outright copying another OS's design is a crappy idea. If our target
 audience is OSX/Windows users there's nothing wrong with taking design
 cues but this example here is just bad on so many levels.

 Another issue I see is it requires compositing. Now I'm fine with
 cutting off a particular set of users because of HW requirements but  I
 don't control Ubuntu. So until compositing is standard, or we cut off
 certain users, we're unfortunately stuck.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael
I don't exactly understand what you mean by flat icons are tricky to
implement. And you make an interesting point about the bright menus. I would
be interested in researching that a bit further. But I agree that the
background image, the flat theme, and the icons are pretty cool. Just
wondering, who makes the decision of what gets packaged into the Ubuntu
ship?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael
Thanks for the heads up. I didn't understand the level of bureaucracy that
is involved to make improvements to Ubuntu. I'm just wondering, the only
difference I notice between updates is a background change. Why do we have
an art-group just for making a background?


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't exactly understand what you mean by flat icons are tricky to
  implement.

 There are a ton of icons. If you just want to make a subtle change you
 can re-use the icons from another theme, but if you want to make a
 radical change (like flat icons) then you need to make a bunch. This
 takes a lot of ambition and a motivated *team* if you want to get it
 done in a short time.

   Just
  wondering, who makes the decision of what gets packaged into the Ubuntu
  ship?

 Don't set your goal to be a theme that ships with Ubuntu. Set your
 goal to be a theme - or better, a theme that anyone can easily install
 and use. If you want to do it get started and ask for assistance when
 you get stuck. Some people on this list will help you overcome the
 hurdle and you can move on to the next one.

 The reason I say this is because the requirements for being included
 on the CD are currently a moving target and poorly defined. (the only
 thing we know is that Mark has to like it) Your chances of hitting it
 are slim and you'll get frustrated and discouraged and give up.

 However, the goal of creating a theme is absolutely achievable. You
 can accomplish this. Aim for excellence and in so doing, you may come
 up with something good enough to be included in the distro. But even
 if you don't get on the cd at least you achieved your task and joined
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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/8/4 Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 There are a ton of icons. If you just want to make a subtle change you
 can re-use the icons from another theme, but if you want to make a
 radical change (like flat icons) then you need to make a bunch. This
 takes a lot of ambition and a motivated *team* if you want to get it
 done in a short time.


Personally I think the human-colors icons on gnome look by perfectska04 are
superior to the ones currently in use for ubuntu, I am sure I have heard
that
Canonical hired a professional design company to create those icons. I am
sure
that I have heard also that mark wants the current fisher price icons
because they
are synonymous with Ubuntu. So isn't the problem with creating community
icons
that as soon as they appear on gnome-look they are no longer synonymous with

the brand and will not be used?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/8/4 Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 also Canonical had Iconforge create the human icons. Mark wants new
 icons, but also wants to retain our identity aka orange/brown.


Well if that is the case then perhaps we can have a discussion on using the
human-colors icons by perfectska04
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3id=82562file1=82562-1.jpgfile2=82562-2.jpgfile3=82562-3.jpgname=GNOME-colors
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Iconset ideas

2008-08-04 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/8/4 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 While I think they are a fine set, I'd like to see a design direction
 set 1st. These might not fit a style that we go for. Personally, I feel
 we need to move away from the Tango look.

 -Cory K. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art


Well a completely new iconset would be the ideal, it seems
that there is very little effort put towards creating new and complete
iconsets, so unless Canonical has already paid another company for a
new iconset for Intrepid I can't see one appearing in the short term.
These icons seem to fit more with the mockups I have tried (eg the brown
theme from the alphas), so the question I am asking is whether these would
be a better choice for Intrepid?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] variation of Kin styling

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/7/28 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]





 On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:44 PM, tonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've been dabbling with my own variation on the Kin styling
 
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/ghatanothoa/CurrentProjects/photo#5227945564509952210
 
 
  I got 404'd
 
 
  odd :(
 
  attached it since its small enough anyway.
 
  cheers,
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The new maximize, minimize and close buttons are inspired, nothing like
anything I have ever seen before, Far better than anything that Steve Jobs
has produced (Huge Compliment). How far away is an implementation, can it be
done with metacity and any of the current gtk engines?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Human 2 .deb

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/7/28 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]





 On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:48 PM, SorinN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ok,
 
  now just imagine that I can't observe that.
  Emerald works OK - no memory / CPU overloaded.
 
  CPU is about 1 to 5 % with Emerald ..the same with Metacity
 
 
  2008/7/28 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
 
 
  On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:00 PM, SorinN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  man shadowh511 - peoples just ask here for  * or for ..other *.. ;)
  being a discussion list they had all rights to do that and it's
  normal
  to be that way.
 
  for example Kim told us about the progress of his theme. Which are
  interested in emerald aspect of life,  will test new the new deb and
  will put here their opinions regarding the * emerald problem.
 
  Peoples that are are not interested in emerald themes ...will go on
  without disturb the others ... so what's the problem ??
 
  I don't understand what's your reason to respond / speak that way
 
  2008/7/27 Nicholas Ipsen(Sephiroth_VII) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Well, you don't have to use it, but emerald certainly is somewhat
  more
  powerful than GDM .
 
 
  On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:05 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  this might sound like a stupid question, but why have we
  switched to
  emerald?
 
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  I personally reccomend not using emerald because it drinks memory
  like
  someone that just came out of a desert. (think sahara)
  It uses more memory per window than metacity
 
 
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make emerald which you claim to be a resource hog less appropriate on a
system optimized for a resource hog?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] More Mockups

2008-07-28 Thread Michael McKinley
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:29 PM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:57 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
  On Jul 28, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Mario Viviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Il giorno lun, 28/07/2008 alle 15.23 +0200, Duncan Austin ha scritto:
 
  New batch, I tried to get everyones ideas in here. The only thing I did
  differently from the suggestions was the buttons, the gray background to
  them just made it all feel more solid.
 
  http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_kith_r2.png
  http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_clouds_r2.png
  http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_rocks_r2.png
 
 http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_trnthtfrnupsddwn_r2.png
 
  aaand... The development SVG. One thing about the SVG is that it's
 -very-
  rough.
 
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kin_Intrepid?action=AttachFileamp;do=getamp;target=kin_piano_rev2.svghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kin_Intrepid?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=kin_piano_rev2.svg
 
 
 
  How about something different for the buttons, since we're being
  distinctive?
 
  Mockup here:
 
  http://www.readitsideways.com/kin_piano_grass_buttons.png
 
  Duncan
 
 
  Quite difficult to make them work, but i think it can be done. In
 Emerald
  it's easier than in metacity, so maybe someone can try making a working
  candidate for them.. I think they're cool and original, but thinking
 about
  usability i have some doubts...
 
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  Honestly, why is everyone wanting to use emerald?  It is as stable as
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 Have we considered Trying Jasper? (trying not to top post, please let me
 know if I'm doing something wrong).

You did it right :).  I think Jasper would be a good thing to keep an eye on
for the future, but from what I've seen it's still in alpha/pre-alpha and
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Re: [ubuntu-art] More Mockups

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/7/29 Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Would you please explain more what that affects? I saw on his website
 (Andrea's) that he was working on that.

http://www.cimitan.com/murrine/rgba-support/list this list will show what is
supported, to what extent, and what is not.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] More Mockups

2008-07-26 Thread Michael McKinley
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Ken Vermette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not entirely sure about the direction Kin and Kith are taking,
 especially with the whole OSX smackdown - so I'm trying something new with
 the themes, posting mockups of the new directions the theme could go
 flailing into. When I hit something half-decent, I'm going to develop it
 similarly to Kith/Kin, but I'd like to know I'm getting warmer first. If you
 post links to other themes, I'll try to incorperate what you like, wether I
 personally like it or not!

 Below are with different backgrounds...
 http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_kith.png
 http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_grass.png
 http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_leaf.png
 http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_rocks.png

 With buttons...
 http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_btns.png

 The main difference is that I've broken the slab, and made the outer rim
 outline protrude even farther from the block while making it more subtle.
 I've also switched to gray for the window contents.


It's looking very nice.  The glowy-rim effect on the windows is a nice touch
and is a great direction to take.  The only suggestion I have at this point
is to make sure there's enough contrast on the close, etc. buttons.  On my
laptop, they can be somewhat hard to see at certain angles.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] I made a few fixes

2008-07-23 Thread michael miller
I don't understand. I never said anything about hating. I waited a few days
to respond to this email because I thought maybe it would give me enough
time to figure out what you guys are going on about, however I am completely
lost here.

All I did was post some changes I made. Who ever is in charge has the choice
of including my changes or rejecting them, and I respect that. I don't
understand why you guys are arguing.

If I did something that upset anyone, please tell me what that was so I know
now to do it again in the future.

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 On Sunday 20 July 2008 09:18:59 shadowh511 wrote:
  Don't be a hater plz

 It is not about hating, it is about you learning to work with others in an
 effecient and friendly manner which everyone has agreed upon. As you have
 shown in this email, you can post text at the bottom. Your two emails with
 text at the top Don't be a hater plz simply show that you are trying to
 incite people to rant about this.

 Silly really, if you think about it. To me it shows that you don't really
 want
 to work on artwork with us. Until now I have the impression that you want
 to
 offer your opinion while showing off that you write emails with your
 iPhone.
 You can't run linux on that iPhone anyway so it almost reduces the
 seriousness I give anything you say - top posting in addition just makes me
 want to ignore you.

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  On Jul 19, 2008, at 5:15 PM, michael miller
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I made a few fixes to the development version of the new default
   theme. I fixed some color consistency issues. Tell me what you think.
   Gelatin_enhanced.tar.gz
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Usplash - the masters are working

2008-07-08 Thread Michael McKinley
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone dabbling with usplash ideas *must* look at this ridiculously
 cool usplash posted on Troy's blog:
 http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/startup.html

 Just a heads up. Cheers,
 Mikkel


That's really cool.  Ubuntu definitely should move away from the progressbar
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Re: [ubuntu-art] // successful use of dark colours: 2 examples //

2008-07-06 Thread Michael McKinley
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:09 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think we need to have both a bright theme for newbies and a darker theme
 for the more experienced

Just out of curiosity, why would newbies prefer bright themes and
experienced users prefer dark themes?  I like the idea of including both a
dark theme and bright theme, but they should be targeted solely based on a
user's aesthetic preferences, not based on their ability/experience.  I
think many newbies would prefer a darker theme and many experienced users
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Need gtkrc help. Panel effect for Studio theme.

2008-07-02 Thread Michael Stephenson
Please Please Please, don't skin the panel, some (stupidly in my opinion)
programs use it as a repeated background for some of their windows (such as
the alacarte menu editor when you are editing the properties of a launcher),
and it looks truly awful and incredibly unprofessional. I don't know this
for sure but I assume this is why the gutsy ubuntu studio theme decided not
to do this. Alternatively you could file this as a bug in alacarte and any
other programs which do this and hopefully get it changed.
Mick

2008/7/2 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi all. I'm tinkering with the Feisty Studio theme. Thinking of bringing
 it back with a facelift. I need help getting a look though.

 Studio always skins the panel in it's themes. But adding the background
 manually through the panel options gives a different effect that using
 the theme. I would like to get the look of adding it manually, but in
 the theme.

 Here's what I'm trying to do:
 http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6104/paneltestro0.png

 Now, since I also control all the settings for Studio I could set this
 with a gconf key but it would set the panel for any theme someone used.
 This is not ideal.

 So, is there a way to get the look of the top example *in* the theme?

 Links to themes that do this are appreciated as well.

 -Cory \m/

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?

2008-06-30 Thread Michael Stephenson
Have you actually used the theme? Your initial disgust at the colour scheme
may subside if you actually used it and saw it in action, I know I love the
theme.
If the colour scheme isn't for you there will doubtless be many rehashes of
this theme in lighter colour schemes.  There is alot more to a theme than
the colour scheme, People are always insisting that OSX is gorgeous, well I
personally think the grey is too dark, the blue highlights are just garish
and the close ,minimize, and maximize buttons in the window border are tacky
and not as functional as the standard _ [] X. To me this is the best looking
theme I have ever seen a linux distribution ship with and the digg naysayers
are probably not ubuntu users anyway.
In summary if you havent at least tried the theme out you should not even be
posting your opinion on the mailing list.
Add this to your sources.list and upgrade your packages.

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kwwii/ubuntu hardy main

Mick

2008/6/30 Bharat Varma [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 there will always be people who immediately oppose any change. this sort of
 criticism is essential to make a superior final product. i would definitely
 say that this is a good direction.

 i am not a fan of the color scheme currently used - i think the colors are
 too dull for a theme which demands sharper colors. and it is true that it
 does look too dark for mainstream. but i am guessing that can be changed
 easily.

 I love the window decoration and the right amount of roundedness (for me).

 On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Hey Everyone...
 What's up with this?

 http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_8_10_Intrepid_Ibex_Alpha_1_Screenshots

 See the complaints? We cannot let this happen. This theme is even worse
 then the default of Hardy

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Elegant Brit

2008-06-30 Thread Michael McKinley
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 6:18 PM, fruchtschwert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Am Mittwoch, den 18.06.2008, 01:28 +0100 schrieb Who:
  On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Conn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Who [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
 * Distinctive: No other OS looks like this BUT it doesn't break
   usability I.E it's unique and usable... All elements (with the
   possible exception of the menus that really need an outline if you
   want to use them without a shadow-porviding WM)
  
   If by usability you mean the ability to use, I'll have to disagree.
   There is no way a mainstream distribution should sacrifice basic
   accessibility for aesthetics. In case you didn't get what I'm hinting
 at,
   it's the razor-thin scrollbars and scale sliders.
  
 
  My bad, you're right about these.
 


 Hey,

 I wanted to propose a very flexible and amazing launcher for intrepid,
 GNOME Do!

 http://do.davebsd.com/


I like the idea.  When I used KDE, I was a big fan of Katapult.  One thing
we might want if this was included is some sort of Tracker integration (I
didn't see it mentioned on the website/plugins list)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme

2008-06-21 Thread Michael McKinley
Two thoughts on the theme:
1) I think that the bar at the bottom takes up too much space.  The
area below it isn't very usable so will end up being wasted space
for most people.
2) I don't like how the notification area's background is
significantly different than the recent of the panel's.  Having it
look indented might work very well, but it has to fit smoothly in
with the panel.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:55 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In answer to your question on placing, I think that you should
 a. put an email on the list
 b. make a page on the wiki
 c. email mark shuttleworth (sp?) about the theme

 if you ask my opinion, i would pay $400 for the ubuntu theme you have
 pictured.  It looks like is can actually make my computer usage enjoyable :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Concept for Intrepid

2008-06-21 Thread Michael McKinley
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Michael Stephenson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 I have been working on a theme for the next release, and I would appreciate
 feedback.
 It is a minimalistic theme, with a blended metacity theme based on Gilouche.
 The gtk theme requires the murrine engine. I personally use it with the
 GNOME-Human from the GNOME-Colors icon theme.
 I would really appreciate feedback on whether you consider this concept
 worthy of consideration for the next release.
 Michael

If you haven't already, be sure to create a page on the Ubuntu wiki,
along with screenshots.  I'll check it out/comment on it later when I
have some more time.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] gwd opacity set to true

2008-06-21 Thread Michael Stephenson
Thank Cimi the Murrine dev, he clued me in when I asked about it in IRC :)

2008/6/21 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Michael Stephenson wrote:
  Thanks Michael,
  When you are checking out the theme please will you enable in
  gconf-editor: /apps/gwd/metacity_theme_shade_opacity true. With this
  enabled the transparency will be graded in compiz, and in metacity
  unfocused window border will just appear opaque.

 Wow. Thanx for the heads-up on this one. I've set it as default in
 Ubuntu Studio.

 Ken, think we can get this switched on in Ubuntu?

 -Cory \m/

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme

2008-06-21 Thread Michael McKinley
 2) Please specify what you mean by notification area.

Notification area == system tray

-Michael

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[ubuntu-art] Concept for Intrepid

2008-06-20 Thread Michael Stephenson
Hi,
I have been working on a theme for the next release, and I would appreciate
feedback.
It is a minimalistic theme, with a blended metacity theme based on Gilouche.
The gtk theme requires the murrine engine. I personally use it with
the GNOME-Human
from the 
GNOME-Colorshttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GNOME-colors?content=82562icon
theme.
I would really appreciate feedback on whether you consider this concept
worthy of consideration for the next release.
Michael


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Version of Clear Intrepid

2008-05-14 Thread Michael McKinley
Some thoughts:
 * I'm not a huge fan of the main background color of windows being
very colorful - I think it can be distracting.
 * I'd tone down the transparency somewhat (or blur the area beneath
the transparency)
 * I don't think that the widgets blend well with the rest of the
theme - the buttons seem like they were tacked on as an afterthought
 * I like the revamped menu icon a lot and the inbuilt search field,
but I'd stick with having the applications-places-system as 3 separate
menus
 * The icon theme in the places window is really nice
 * I'd consider making the notification area icons monochromatic - I
like the way it looks and I think it's a direction we should take for
the Intrepid theme

I hope I don't sound too harsh, I just want Intrepid to look the best it can.

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Ubuntu Artists-

 I just released the newest mockup for Clear Intrepid here:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Clear_Intrepid

 Things that have changed:
 1) Smaller fonts
 2) Close/Min/Max Buttons
 3) Forward/Backward/Refresh/Up Buttons
 4) Smaller Menu

 Things that still need to be done:
 1) A professional looking, matching icon set needs to be found.

 Any suggestions?

 Salane Ashcraft

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ideas

2008-05-04 Thread Michael McKinley
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Peter Mayhew wrote:
  
   Another part of the idea of Humanness is that Ubuntu should work on as
   many computers as possible. Compiz, blending, and other discussed
   require specific graphics cards or use too much processing power to be
   practical on many computers; these should be incorporated when they
   have been made as efficient as possible and when the graphics required
   are the minimum available, not an arbitrary level that too many people
   fail to meet.
  

  No. Let XFCE and Open/Flux/Blackbox worry about these people.

I agree completely.  I know that most of this wasn't directed towards
me, but I just want to clarify my position.  I'm all for taking full
advantage of Compiz and the like to make Ubuntu as elegant as
possible.  My only concern with the completely borderless windows was
that it might not degrade gracefully.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Themes

2006-10-01 Thread Michael Biebl
Frank Schoep wrote:

 
 The sound work was done by Peter Savage (cbx33) and has undergone  
 several revisions before being included as is, yesterday. The African  
 themeing is indeed evident but not over the top I think. Both the  
 sounds and artwork were designed with the Ubuntu philosophy and  
 history in mind:

Overall I really like the new design, good work!
My only complaint would be, that the sounds are a bit long.
If you have a rather fast machine, the logout sound will still play even
if gdm already shows up again (this also produces a mix of the the gdm
drum roll sound and the log out sound, which is a bit odd).

Cheers,
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