Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Site
I'd say B, it seems to have more promise when it's done. I like the format better. ~Michael From: dog1...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:04:17 -0500 To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Site A. 5 votesB. 4 votes C. 0 votes D. 1 vote E. 0 votes Total votes: 9 And this is the detail: Gabriel (gabo.xan...@gmail.com) - A Thomas (dog1...@hotmail.com) - B Jackson (hawks...@hawks008.dyndns.org) - D TheVirtualDragon (avlabs...@gmail.com) - B George (grstre...@me.com) - A Connor (con...@connorpeet.com) - BRoopa (roopa...@gmail.com) - B Krzystof (krzys...@sth-group.pl) - AMatt (elsberrym...@gmail.com) - AMarco (ilmar...@yahoo.it) - A Thanks,Thomas Corwin On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Thomas Corwin dog1...@hotmail.com wrote: A. 4 votes B. 4 votes C. 0 votes D. 1 vote E. 0 votes Total votes: 9 And this is the detail: Gabriel (gabo.xan...@gmail.com) - A Thomas (dog1...@hotmail.com) - B Jackson (hawks...@hawks008.dyndns.org) - D TheVirtualDragon (avlabs...@gmail.com) - B George (grstre...@me.com) - A Connor (con...@connorpeet.com) - BRoopa (roopa...@gmail.com) - B Krzystof (krzys...@sth-group.pl) - AMatt (elsberrym...@gmail.com) - A Thanks,Thomas Corwin -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Issue 1.2 of Libre Graphics Magazine is out.
Thanks, Saleel, that's a fantastic tip. I myself just subscribed! On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 08:43 -0400, Saleel Velankar wrote: http://libregraphicsmag.com/ While this isn't directly related to ubuntu, I still think its well worth mentioning. --Saleel -- Mike -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Regarding my icons and igorance
I thought it was a good icon, and potentially a very nice ubuntu-studio icon, but not fitting with the breathe set. It's a fun and cute icon, I would not describe breathe as fun and cute. A good basis for an alternate ubuntu-studio set. My opinion isn't worth anything, but you were looking for some kind of feedback, so there you go. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Regarding my icons and ignorance
2009/5/7 Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com: Baldur Pétursson Blöndal wrote: Hello, I'm a bit of a newcomer although I've been reading this mailing-list for quite some time now I'm not completely sure how this works though (I'm not ever sure about using a mailing-list) so please be kind :) could anyone recommend an icon that I should do (in the Breathe set right)? Since it's my first time here I'd just like someone to tell me draw this icon and then do it. What program is best/do you use creating vector images? Inkscape? Sorry for the awkward post, I'm normally not like this but I want to be on the safe side on this. Do you have a place that shows previous work? Whoa I have no idea how to reply here, I hope this works. Hi Cory, no I used to work on some icons before but I don't have anything to show for that I'm afraid since I deleted it all a long time ago, I mostly draw now but I doubt that would be of any interest to you (my work is not quite bad) I don't get (that last part) Of course you aren't going to accept work from just anybody and I should have seen this coming- should I try making an icon or two, submit them here and see what you guys think? That would be fine. If you like them then I'm glad to be of any help but if you don't I'll leave it to you guys No need to be dramatic. ;) And please keep the topics consistent. No need to change the topic that way. :) Or at least change it to something, Like How do I get involved. ;) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Don't know how you managed to do that but the subject is in reply to Ufuk but the message body is in reply to Baldur Pétursson Blöndal -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Wallpaper Photo Pack
I would say that with both Hardy and Intrepid the way mascots was included in the artwork was truly art and worked out fantastically. I'm just guessing but I imagine that decision was Jaunty specific, You can draw a Heron and a Ibex, and majestic and element animals. Whereas whichever way you spin it, a Jackalope is a bunny rabbit with reindeer horns. It's hard to imagine a wallpaper which uses a Jackalope and remains stylish and cool rather than a bit of a joke. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Countdown Banner
2009/3/25 Matthew Nuzum matthew.nu...@canonical.com 2009/3/25 John Baer bae...@gmail.com: Jaunty Beta is out tomorrow, what is the status of the count down banner? If you were on the web presence team mailing list you'd know, but since you're not you'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out. But, the good news is, tomorrow you will have an answer. ;-) Or you could check out the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/JauntyCountdownBanners#Final,%20with%20slideshow -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] A note on wallpaper dimensions
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Dylan McCall dylanmcc...@gmail.com wrote: Just recently I got a totally awesome 24 monitor. (Yay! It's a Samsung T240, going up from a Dell 17. I can't get over how big it is). To my dismay, Ubuntu's default wallpaper was stretched way beyond its means at the monitor's native resolution (1920x1200). GNOME's backgrounds all look fine; they seem to standardize on fitting precisely that. It looks like most other operating systems shoot for the same target, including Windows. Perhaps Ubuntu should aim for the same as well, since 1080p is getting quite common in computer displays and will probably remain standard for a while. It is a shame to think that users with beautiful displays are welcomed to a new Ubuntu release by fuzzy, stretched graphics. Thanks, -Dylan -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art In a similar vein, ensuring that the wallpapers look good on different aspect ratios is important as well. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] alpha wallpaper and icon needed
I like Miffan a lot - great work on it. The only problem is that the colors don't look Ubuntu-y. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] system-file-manager and applications-office
I uploaded to the wiki new versions of system-file-manager and applications-office. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions system-file-manager2 is great, but the smallest icon size is somewhat hard to make out. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] applications-internet
2008/12/9 spg76 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I uploaded to the wiki icons for applications-internet. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Although I like the look and style of your grid, you can tell it is just an approximation. Your parallels are good, but your meridians don't look right, for example the second and third meridian from the left appear parallel in the southern hemisphere. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereographic_projection Some of the maths here may be of use to you, is it possible to code that kind of thing with svg? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Art opinions
Sorry about last night, I got sucked into replying to defend my position, which I have very little personal interest in. My opinion was not that top posting is good, behaviours of people not following netiquette should of course be corrected, just that you can chastise and be rude to people while still saying please, it's not what you say it is the way you say it, and too often people's first post to this list results in their opinion being completely belittled/ignored followed by a top posting comment. Which would feel like you are showing them the door. Sorry Cory, I appreciate you are the only sane factor on this list, my only real opinion is that you could word things more nicely to make people feel more welcome and that could have been summed up in one sentence in one post without needing defending and without any inflammatory language. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Art opinions
2008/11/27 SorinN [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know why you like to tease peoples ? I see that before. If he ..top-post, tell him normally something like : - hey man please don't top post, we try to keep clean here. It's enough. Don't forget Ubuntu is all in all about humanity ..to us and to others. Than mean sometimes to retain first impulse and to use our good resources, 2008/11/27 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mr wrote: 2008/11/27 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mr wrote: They are nice but some look like a Mac, I don't want icons to look like Mac's because I chose Ubuntu not Mac.. Drawing in a realistic style will always get that comparison. You don't have to use them. :) If you're not working on the set or have nothing technical to say I'd like everyone to just keep it to themselves. ;) I only post to the list to keep the few people around here that actually work on things informed. I could move it to a different list to avoid the peanut gallery. ;) no need for insults It wasn't personal. Please don't top-post. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Nemes Ioan Sorin -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art I agree with SorinN. Cory, evidently you are a very upfront, confrontational guy, and that's good, but there comes to a point where you are just plain rude. Which was fine when you were one voice among many on this list, but you became defacto community leader for this list, and the only member to openly support you on this list was me, and then Kenneth Wilmer in irc. In this particular case your best response would be: Although this project uses this list to announce additions, please note this is not an official ubuntu project and is created by likeminded people for likeminded people, a subset of the ubuntu art community. Feel free to begin your own project with your own goals, their are probably many community members which watch this list, which feel the same way You seem to have forgotten the appointed role as community leader. You shouldn't make people frightended to speak, or frightened to reply for fear of not matching your fascistly applied posting rules. Top posting is annoying yes, but should you be so cold in your advice? You should consider your role aswell as chastising people for not meeting theirs. Mick -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Canonical's approach to Jaunty
2008/11/4 Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] rhythmbox and nautilus or totem, or openoffice which is the ugliest thing ever. What do people expect from totem? its a media player, it has a viewing window play/pause, skip forwards and skip backwards and volume, how do you jazz that up without adding meaningless crap? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Canonical's approach to Jaunty
I can't see how you could use up some of the wasted space without adding redundant buttons, perhaps making the control buttons central would make it appear as if less space was being wasted? I'd need to see a mockup of a better totem to be convinced it needs work. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] intrepid update
So we can safely assume that the human-theme package is representative of the final look of Intrepid? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyūdō: Audience and Message
2008/9/27 Joshua Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are only seven movie editors I can find. Cinelerra may be professional, but it has nowhere near the potential that the easy interface of Windows Movie Maker had. The only thing that is Gnome-based and that seems to have a nice interface is Kino, and it *doesn't even have a timeline. *How are you supposed to make a movie without a timeline? The only other program that does have a timeline is Kdenlive, but it's for KDE and for some reason crashes whenever I use it. Plus there hasn't been an update since 2007, and the latest news is from June 26, 2008. The new version was scheduled for release in March. And the year is almost through. It's definitely time for a new movie editor, one that has all the functionality of Kdenlive and the usability of Kino. FYI Kino is KDE based, not Gnome based. Have you tried Pitivi? It has a good time line, a very intuitive interface. It is lacking in features, but what it does do it does right. There is no need for a *new* movie editor, because when Pitivi gets there it will what most people want from a video editor. Michael -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyūdō: Audience and Message
FYI Kino is KDE based, not Gnome based. Disregard that, I am an idiot the K always threw me. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
I'm really disappointed if the new theme has been postponed again. This is exactly what happened for the hardy release :( -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 20:16 +0800, symon cadwallender wrote: Lol. What do you expect from Ubuntu. They will never have a good theme, either will Gnome. Gnome havn't got the balls to do it, Go Kde. Im so sick of Ubuntu and Gnome and their 1980's mentality that i just switched to Opensuse/Mandriva Kde. Atleast Kde are more in touch with today's standard. 'F ubuntu and gnome' By the way, how the hell do I unsubscribe from this shit. Im so sick of ubuntu kaddy See this link at the bottom of every post, click it. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Good riddance Troll. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?
2008/9/11 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dylan McCall wrote: Odysseus Flappington wrote: I think just by slotting in the word 'community' into the definition, you're already implying that you aren't affiliated with Ubuntu officially, and have no decision making power in regards to the default theme. Is this a problem for you or anyone? I do find this a bit of a problem. I like the idea (no, /love/ the idea!) of a diverse community themes pack. I also think that people should create a lot of high quality themes for that package and not always aim at taking top slot as default theme. Of course, community themes are still Ubuntu themes so would ideally follow the palette. Agreed. But, I would not be opposed to say a great blue theme if it was of quality and a big push from the community. With lots of open source projects, I get the distinct impression that artwork is based on a totally different set of rules than code. I would say very much so. But there are, or can be common framework. Case in point, Mozilla and that Iceweasel fiasco -- largely because Debian wanted to use completely free artwork. Nothing wrong with that. Just a pain. Over here in Ubuntu, I think it is an issue that the theme work and theme decision making is very quiet. I'm not saying that it isn't open, because Ken does just fine answering questions. (Besides that, it ultimately boils down to - paraphrasing - nobody can explain it, but Mark just has naturally good taste in colours). However, when people think of the official theme as detached from the community here, we run the risk of a situation developing just like Mozilla's. With art, the community contributes ideas, and -- just like with code -- those ideas occasionally find their way into official work when the maintainers like them. The difference here is that those ideas tend to be just ideas rather than measurable things (eg: specific changes to an options dialog). It would help if the folks behind the default theme were a little bit more inclusing visible about their own work there, just like the different groups working on community themes. That would help reduce some confusion here with regards to what is being done, it would be more productive and it would give the art development that touch of openness it needs. The default theme would stop being some kind of looming Goliath figure and simply be a part amongst us mortals. Well Ken W and Mark says what's default. Ken is pretty open about what he is doing. It's usually in a PPA or development version of Ubuntu. The problem is that it's not been clearly communicated that default is not this teams target. That's what I'm hoping to do with this current discussion. Come to some kinda consensus as to the description so it can be clearly posted on LP and the wiki. Then, move on with what we actually want to achieve in a given cycle, as a team. What is the artwork team? 'A transient group of disparate individuals chirping away in a mailing list, and finding that it is all in vain anyway, only to stop posting to the list having achieved little before eventually unsubscribing.' A perfect example of this is Salane Ashcroft I believe his name was, who was all over the mailing list a few months back, anyone who would have joined the list back then would have thought he was artwork community leader. From Cory's posts in the last few days it looks as if he is trying to gain some kind of order, and a bid for community leader for himself, I don't post to this list often but I do try to keep up to date with the happenings, and I have to say this is probably exactly what is needed. The Artwork Team is a misnomer, it is not a team in any definition of the word, it should follow a development cycle, have submission deadlines. If Cory has a plan to transform this list into a real community team, just appoint him community-leader and focus on how the development cycle should be arranged for 9.04. He is the only possible candidate anyway and its damn obvious this community needs someone like him to kick some ass and get it working like it should be. Michael -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?
Well at the moment it is exactly how I described it, nothing more than voices on a mailing list, if that is what a community art team is, it isn't productive and is doomed to forever be a bunch of people chirping away in vain. Unless you or someone else provides an alternative structure to kick start the art team into something tangible. Michael 2008/9/12 Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wouldn't agree with that, since I don't agree with Cory's design initiative. It's better if it's a community art team. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?
2008/9/12 Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why is there a need? Here's how it works - art team provides themes, Canonical chooses. That won't change. So what change would you like? Have a boss who tells each artist what to do or? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art The community provides themes anyway, that's what gnome-look is for. Like I have said this isn't a team, this is a mailing list. Perhaps Canonical would take the team more seriously, and more successes would be achieved from this list if there were a structure emulating the kind of order that exists inside Canonical itself. There is a hell of a lot of noise on the list and on the wiki, that's created purely though default theme ambition. Case in point, there was a little bit of talk about shiki-colors by perfectska04, which is a very good theme with alot of potential he posted once on the list once or twice, where is he now? Is it that lack of persistance in list posting caused it to fade into obscurity? Certainly not because he doesn't have the persistance to work on his themes. I couldn't possibly be considered a member of the team, but this is how the list seems to me, rather fruitless. Michael -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?
2008/9/12 Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I see no clearly proposed solution except something, I don't know what, needs to be done!. By the way, mailing lists are how people cooperate on the Internet. Really. It's been done so for decades even. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art What I am saying is that the needs to be a differentiation between people that post on the list (me) and the team (does not yet exist) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?
2008/9/12 Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not straw man me, I subscribe to other mailing lists, non of them ubuntu and non are censored. I am not advocating that the mailing list should change, just that team should not be synonymous with the mailing list. Well, then, I resign from this conversation, because I see absolutely zero point or helpfulness in doing that. Nor how are you going to accomplish that - kick out all non-artists or something? Heh. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art It is an art mailing list, what is important is the outcome. Someone could conceivably create an svg icon in gedit, does that make them less of an artist than someone who made it in inkscape? No, your argument is another straw man. The helpfulness is that in every other project the mailing list doesn't constitute a team, and I don't see any reason that the art team should be any different, it is a meritocracy after all. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust theme implementation
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:09 AM, Nicholas Kraak [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Most the comments from the theme so far have been that looks like OSX and that's not Ubuntu. Here's something to address that, I think. Might I suggest an alternate color scheme which would be more Ubuntu-like: http://dump.ambiescent.com/i/dust-color-1a.png http://dump.ambiescent.com/i/dust-color-1b.png Looks good, might I suggest though, changing that pressed in tab on the second screenshot (where it says rsc) to a lighter, fresher orange (eg; *#FC9523*). Many of the people who dislike the current pallet rather orange over brown. I disagree. I like the way the reddish-brown looks with the black. I think a bright orange would look out-of-place. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Background Concept
2008/8/11 symon cadwallender [EMAIL PROTECTED] Damn the link says the pic has been deleted. I really really like these mockups. It can't be beat! Minus the Dock though. http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-1-93584571 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-3-93585184 What does everybody else think? kaddy. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2008-August/thread.html#7109 This was discussed in depth a few days ago. You should also take a look at this before someone tells you off. http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists/etiquette#head-c70bc55ce24849bd82885e8b0f7e972465944b5a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting#Top-posting Mick -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
2008/8/8 Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] The most noticeable changes are: -Menus/Menubars are light. While this takes a bit away from the original appeal of the theme, it is much more compatible and way less buggy with non-gtk apps (firefox 3). I personally would would rather you kept it as it is already with respect to this, Firefox 3 seems fine to me and it is a very big factor in the appeal of the theme, Also I think the theme would be nicer with the scrollbar in the gray/brown colour and the contrast would help discern it against the light background. Michael -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept
is that sarcasm i smell?! :p 2008/8/4 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that I found for ubuntu. First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a great concept. you can check it out at http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 . I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know I did! Regards, Mike -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Welcome to the team! ようこそ(welcome in Japanese)There is a theme called long term vision by Brian that has the same main idea though. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- - Mike -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept
Yeah, I think trying a new theme that still resembles the colors of Ubunut would be a great hit. BTW, who actually makes the decisions as to what is shipped with Ubuntu? Thanks On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Justin Dugger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that I found for ubuntu. First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a great concept. you can check it out at http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 . I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know I did! Regards, Mike Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows? Because they're not open source, cost significant money and not Ubuntu? Seriously though, the hate for things that resembles OSX simply because they resemble OSX is getting old and is basically an argument for the status quo. The status quo is somewhere north of MacOS 9, I think. Intrepid is the perfect time to try out new themes and UI -- the last release was an LTS so people wary of retraining have something else to fall back on, and we'll have the largest amount of time possible for feedback and testing. Justin Dugger -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- - Mike -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept
is this it? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Long_Term_Vision?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=LTV_WindowandGlobalMenu.png On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:35 AM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:24 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I think trying a new theme that still resembles the colors of Ubunut would be a great hit. BTW, who actually makes the decisions as to what is shipped with Ubuntu? Thanks On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Justin Dugger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that I found for ubuntu. First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a great concept. you can check it out at http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 . I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know I did! Regards, Mike Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows? Because they're not open source, cost significant money and not Ubuntu? Seriously though, the hate for things that resembles OSX simply because they resemble OSX is getting old and is basically an argument for the status quo. The status quo is somewhere north of MacOS 9, I think. Intrepid is the perfect time to try out new themes and UI -- the last release was an LTS so people wary of retraining have something else to fall back on, and we'll have the largest amount of time possible for feedback and testing. Justin Dugger -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.comubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- - Mike -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Yes, that theme would look great on ubunut, but I think that long term vision is more user-friendly -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- - Mike -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Wall-light
Sorry for the top post, I'm new to mailing list etiquette. Yeah, I noticed the OSX influence on it, but does that mean we should avoid it? Look at AWN, it's popular because it's functional, yet it was derived from OSX. I was just posting this as inspiration. I'm not suggesting ubuntu ships with AWN or OSX icons, but I like the colors of the borders, the backgrounds, and even the warning box. Gnome theme's don't make it to the front page of digg. This design is very eye catchy, and I don't see why we would be opposed to giving Ubuntu a breathe of fresh air. On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexi Helligar wrote: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'd just like to show my support, as many other people positively had, for this theme: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Intrepid_Ibex_Mockup_Designs Cheers. This theme is a closer to what I think Ubuntu should be working towards for Intrepid. I don't think there should be as many rounded corners as in the mock-ups. Please don't top-post. Outright copying another OS's design is a crappy idea. If our target audience is OSX/Windows users there's nothing wrong with taking design cues but this example here is just bad on so many levels. Another issue I see is it requires compositing. Now I'm fine with cutting off a particular set of users because of HW requirements but I don't control Ubuntu. So until compositing is standard, or we cut off certain users, we're unfortunately stuck. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- - Mike -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept
I don't exactly understand what you mean by flat icons are tricky to implement. And you make an interesting point about the bright menus. I would be interested in researching that a bit further. But I agree that the background image, the flat theme, and the icons are pretty cool. Just wondering, who makes the decision of what gets packaged into the Ubuntu ship? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept
Thanks for the heads up. I didn't understand the level of bureaucracy that is involved to make improvements to Ubuntu. I'm just wondering, the only difference I notice between updates is a background change. Why do we have an art-group just for making a background? On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't exactly understand what you mean by flat icons are tricky to implement. There are a ton of icons. If you just want to make a subtle change you can re-use the icons from another theme, but if you want to make a radical change (like flat icons) then you need to make a bunch. This takes a lot of ambition and a motivated *team* if you want to get it done in a short time. Just wondering, who makes the decision of what gets packaged into the Ubuntu ship? Don't set your goal to be a theme that ships with Ubuntu. Set your goal to be a theme - or better, a theme that anyone can easily install and use. If you want to do it get started and ask for assistance when you get stuck. Some people on this list will help you overcome the hurdle and you can move on to the next one. The reason I say this is because the requirements for being included on the CD are currently a moving target and poorly defined. (the only thing we know is that Mark has to like it) Your chances of hitting it are slim and you'll get frustrated and discouraged and give up. However, the goal of creating a theme is absolutely achievable. You can accomplish this. Aim for excellence and in so doing, you may come up with something good enough to be included in the distro. But even if you don't get on the cd at least you achieved your task and joined the elite few who have tasted such glory. -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- - Mike -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept
2008/8/4 Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are a ton of icons. If you just want to make a subtle change you can re-use the icons from another theme, but if you want to make a radical change (like flat icons) then you need to make a bunch. This takes a lot of ambition and a motivated *team* if you want to get it done in a short time. Personally I think the human-colors icons on gnome look by perfectska04 are superior to the ones currently in use for ubuntu, I am sure I have heard that Canonical hired a professional design company to create those icons. I am sure that I have heard also that mark wants the current fisher price icons because they are synonymous with Ubuntu. So isn't the problem with creating community icons that as soon as they appear on gnome-look they are no longer synonymous with the brand and will not be used? Michael -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept
2008/8/4 Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] also Canonical had Iconforge create the human icons. Mark wants new icons, but also wants to retain our identity aka orange/brown. Well if that is the case then perhaps we can have a discussion on using the human-colors icons by perfectska04 http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3id=82562file1=82562-1.jpgfile2=82562-2.jpgfile3=82562-3.jpgname=GNOME-colors -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Iconset ideas
2008/8/4 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I think they are a fine set, I'd like to see a design direction set 1st. These might not fit a style that we go for. Personally, I feel we need to move away from the Tango look. -Cory K. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Well a completely new iconset would be the ideal, it seems that there is very little effort put towards creating new and complete iconsets, so unless Canonical has already paid another company for a new iconset for Intrepid I can't see one appearing in the short term. These icons seem to fit more with the mockups I have tried (eg the brown theme from the alphas), so the question I am asking is whether these would be a better choice for Intrepid? Michael -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] variation of Kin styling
2008/7/28 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:44 PM, tonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been dabbling with my own variation on the Kin styling http://picasaweb.google.com/ghatanothoa/CurrentProjects/photo#5227945564509952210 I got 404'd odd :( attached it since its small enough anyway. cheers, Tonic Kin Tonic.png -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art It looks like something Steve jobs would use (huge compliment)! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art The new maximize, minimize and close buttons are inspired, nothing like anything I have ever seen before, Far better than anything that Steve Jobs has produced (Huge Compliment). How far away is an implementation, can it be done with metacity and any of the current gtk engines? Mick -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Human 2 .deb
2008/7/28 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:48 PM, SorinN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, now just imagine that I can't observe that. Emerald works OK - no memory / CPU overloaded. CPU is about 1 to 5 % with Emerald ..the same with Metacity 2008/7/28 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:00 PM, SorinN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: man shadowh511 - peoples just ask here for * or for ..other *.. ;) being a discussion list they had all rights to do that and it's normal to be that way. for example Kim told us about the progress of his theme. Which are interested in emerald aspect of life, will test new the new deb and will put here their opinions regarding the * emerald problem. Peoples that are are not interested in emerald themes ...will go on without disturb the others ... so what's the problem ?? I don't understand what's your reason to respond / speak that way 2008/7/27 Nicholas Ipsen(Sephiroth_VII) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, you don't have to use it, but emerald certainly is somewhat more powerful than GDM . On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:05 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this might sound like a stupid question, but why have we switched to emerald? -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Nemes Ioan Sorin -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art I personally reccomend not using emerald because it drinks memory like someone that just came out of a desert. (think sahara) It uses more memory per window than metacity -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Nemes Ioan Sorin -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Please imagine you are running emerald on a system optimized for vista -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Optimized for Vista = Multicore CPU and 4 gigs of ram hmmm how does that make emerald which you claim to be a resource hog less appropriate on a system optimized for a resource hog? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] More Mockups
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:29 PM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:57 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 28, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Mario Viviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Il giorno lun, 28/07/2008 alle 15.23 +0200, Duncan Austin ha scritto: New batch, I tried to get everyones ideas in here. The only thing I did differently from the suggestions was the buttons, the gray background to them just made it all feel more solid. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_kith_r2.png http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_clouds_r2.png http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_rocks_r2.png http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_trnthtfrnupsddwn_r2.png aaand... The development SVG. One thing about the SVG is that it's -very- rough. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kin_Intrepid?action=AttachFileamp;do=getamp;target=kin_piano_rev2.svghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kin_Intrepid?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=kin_piano_rev2.svg How about something different for the buttons, since we're being distinctive? Mockup here: http://www.readitsideways.com/kin_piano_grass_buttons.png Duncan Quite difficult to make them work, but i think it can be done. In Emerald it's easier than in metacity, so maybe someone can try making a working candidate for them.. I think they're cool and original, but thinking about usability i have some doubts... Mario -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Honestly, why is everyone wanting to use emerald? It is as stable as windows 95! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art I think Compiz Fusion is the culprit - Beryl was so much more stable for me at least. -- Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Have we considered Trying Jasper? (trying not to top post, please let me know if I'm doing something wrong). You did it right :). I think Jasper would be a good thing to keep an eye on for the future, but from what I've seen it's still in alpha/pre-alpha and thus isn't mature enough. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] More Mockups
2008/7/29 Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would you please explain more what that affects? I saw on his website (Andrea's) that he was working on that. http://www.cimitan.com/murrine/rgba-support/list this list will show what is supported, to what extent, and what is not. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] More Mockups
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Ken Vermette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not entirely sure about the direction Kin and Kith are taking, especially with the whole OSX smackdown - so I'm trying something new with the themes, posting mockups of the new directions the theme could go flailing into. When I hit something half-decent, I'm going to develop it similarly to Kith/Kin, but I'd like to know I'm getting warmer first. If you post links to other themes, I'll try to incorperate what you like, wether I personally like it or not! Below are with different backgrounds... http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_kith.png http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_grass.png http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_leaf.png http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_rocks.png With buttons... http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_btns.png The main difference is that I've broken the slab, and made the outer rim outline protrude even farther from the block while making it more subtle. I've also switched to gray for the window contents. It's looking very nice. The glowy-rim effect on the windows is a nice touch and is a great direction to take. The only suggestion I have at this point is to make sure there's enough contrast on the close, etc. buttons. On my laptop, they can be somewhat hard to see at certain angles. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] I made a few fixes
I don't understand. I never said anything about hating. I waited a few days to respond to this email because I thought maybe it would give me enough time to figure out what you guys are going on about, however I am completely lost here. All I did was post some changes I made. Who ever is in charge has the choice of including my changes or rejecting them, and I respect that. I don't understand why you guys are arguing. If I did something that upset anyone, please tell me what that was so I know now to do it again in the future. On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Kenneth Wimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 20 July 2008 09:18:59 shadowh511 wrote: Don't be a hater plz It is not about hating, it is about you learning to work with others in an effecient and friendly manner which everyone has agreed upon. As you have shown in this email, you can post text at the bottom. Your two emails with text at the top Don't be a hater plz simply show that you are trying to incite people to rant about this. Silly really, if you think about it. To me it shows that you don't really want to work on artwork with us. Until now I have the impression that you want to offer your opinion while showing off that you write emails with your iPhone. You can't run linux on that iPhone anyway so it almost reduces the seriousness I give anything you say - top posting in addition just makes me want to ignore you. -- Ken On Jul 19, 2008, at 5:15 PM, michael miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made a few fixes to the development version of the new default theme. I fixed some color consistency issues. Tell me what you think. Gelatin_enhanced.tar.gz -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Can you reattach the image in the jpg format plz? My iPod cannot read your attachment, espically if it is a svg. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Usplash - the masters are working
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone dabbling with usplash ideas *must* look at this ridiculously cool usplash posted on Troy's blog: http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/startup.html Just a heads up. Cheers, Mikkel That's really cool. Ubuntu definitely should move away from the progressbar look. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] // successful use of dark colours: 2 examples //
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:09 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we need to have both a bright theme for newbies and a darker theme for the more experienced Just out of curiosity, why would newbies prefer bright themes and experienced users prefer dark themes? I like the idea of including both a dark theme and bright theme, but they should be targeted solely based on a user's aesthetic preferences, not based on their ability/experience. I think many newbies would prefer a darker theme and many experienced users a brighter theme. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Need gtkrc help. Panel effect for Studio theme.
Please Please Please, don't skin the panel, some (stupidly in my opinion) programs use it as a repeated background for some of their windows (such as the alacarte menu editor when you are editing the properties of a launcher), and it looks truly awful and incredibly unprofessional. I don't know this for sure but I assume this is why the gutsy ubuntu studio theme decided not to do this. Alternatively you could file this as a bug in alacarte and any other programs which do this and hopefully get it changed. Mick 2008/7/2 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all. I'm tinkering with the Feisty Studio theme. Thinking of bringing it back with a facelift. I need help getting a look though. Studio always skins the panel in it's themes. But adding the background manually through the panel options gives a different effect that using the theme. I would like to get the look of adding it manually, but in the theme. Here's what I'm trying to do: http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6104/paneltestro0.png Now, since I also control all the settings for Studio I could set this with a gconf key but it would set the panel for any theme someone used. This is not ideal. So, is there a way to get the look of the top example *in* the theme? Links to themes that do this are appreciated as well. -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?
Have you actually used the theme? Your initial disgust at the colour scheme may subside if you actually used it and saw it in action, I know I love the theme. If the colour scheme isn't for you there will doubtless be many rehashes of this theme in lighter colour schemes. There is alot more to a theme than the colour scheme, People are always insisting that OSX is gorgeous, well I personally think the grey is too dark, the blue highlights are just garish and the close ,minimize, and maximize buttons in the window border are tacky and not as functional as the standard _ [] X. To me this is the best looking theme I have ever seen a linux distribution ship with and the digg naysayers are probably not ubuntu users anyway. In summary if you havent at least tried the theme out you should not even be posting your opinion on the mailing list. Add this to your sources.list and upgrade your packages. deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kwwii/ubuntu hardy main Mick 2008/6/30 Bharat Varma [EMAIL PROTECTED]: there will always be people who immediately oppose any change. this sort of criticism is essential to make a superior final product. i would definitely say that this is a good direction. i am not a fan of the color scheme currently used - i think the colors are too dull for a theme which demands sharper colors. and it is true that it does look too dark for mainstream. but i am guessing that can be changed easily. I love the window decoration and the right amount of roundedness (for me). On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone... What's up with this? http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_8_10_Intrepid_Ibex_Alpha_1_Screenshots See the complaints? We cannot let this happen. This theme is even worse then the default of Hardy Salane [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- d-_-b -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Elegant Brit
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 6:18 PM, fruchtschwert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 18.06.2008, 01:28 +0100 schrieb Who: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Conn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Distinctive: No other OS looks like this BUT it doesn't break usability I.E it's unique and usable... All elements (with the possible exception of the menus that really need an outline if you want to use them without a shadow-porviding WM) If by usability you mean the ability to use, I'll have to disagree. There is no way a mainstream distribution should sacrifice basic accessibility for aesthetics. In case you didn't get what I'm hinting at, it's the razor-thin scrollbars and scale sliders. My bad, you're right about these. Hey, I wanted to propose a very flexible and amazing launcher for intrepid, GNOME Do! http://do.davebsd.com/ I like the idea. When I used KDE, I was a big fan of Katapult. One thing we might want if this was included is some sort of Tracker integration (I didn't see it mentioned on the website/plugins list) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme
Two thoughts on the theme: 1) I think that the bar at the bottom takes up too much space. The area below it isn't very usable so will end up being wasted space for most people. 2) I don't like how the notification area's background is significantly different than the recent of the panel's. Having it look indented might work very well, but it has to fit smoothly in with the panel. On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:55 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In answer to your question on placing, I think that you should a. put an email on the list b. make a page on the wiki c. email mark shuttleworth (sp?) about the theme if you ask my opinion, i would pay $400 for the ubuntu theme you have pictured. It looks like is can actually make my computer usage enjoyable :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Concept for Intrepid
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Michael Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have been working on a theme for the next release, and I would appreciate feedback. It is a minimalistic theme, with a blended metacity theme based on Gilouche. The gtk theme requires the murrine engine. I personally use it with the GNOME-Human from the GNOME-Colors icon theme. I would really appreciate feedback on whether you consider this concept worthy of consideration for the next release. Michael If you haven't already, be sure to create a page on the Ubuntu wiki, along with screenshots. I'll check it out/comment on it later when I have some more time. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] gwd opacity set to true
Thank Cimi the Murrine dev, he clued me in when I asked about it in IRC :) 2008/6/21 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Stephenson wrote: Thanks Michael, When you are checking out the theme please will you enable in gconf-editor: /apps/gwd/metacity_theme_shade_opacity true. With this enabled the transparency will be graded in compiz, and in metacity unfocused window border will just appear opaque. Wow. Thanx for the heads-up on this one. I've set it as default in Ubuntu Studio. Ken, think we can get this switched on in Ubuntu? -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme
2) Please specify what you mean by notification area. Notification area == system tray -Michael -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Concept for Intrepid
Hi, I have been working on a theme for the next release, and I would appreciate feedback. It is a minimalistic theme, with a blended metacity theme based on Gilouche. The gtk theme requires the murrine engine. I personally use it with the GNOME-Human from the GNOME-Colorshttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GNOME-colors?content=82562icon theme. I would really appreciate feedback on whether you consider this concept worthy of consideration for the next release. Michael Humanilouche.tar.bz2 Description: BZip2 compressed data Blendilouche.tar.bz2 Description: BZip2 compressed data Blendilouche(Border).tar.bz2 Description: BZip2 compressed data -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Version of Clear Intrepid
Some thoughts: * I'm not a huge fan of the main background color of windows being very colorful - I think it can be distracting. * I'd tone down the transparency somewhat (or blur the area beneath the transparency) * I don't think that the widgets blend well with the rest of the theme - the buttons seem like they were tacked on as an afterthought * I like the revamped menu icon a lot and the inbuilt search field, but I'd stick with having the applications-places-system as 3 separate menus * The icon theme in the places window is really nice * I'd consider making the notification area icons monochromatic - I like the way it looks and I think it's a direction we should take for the Intrepid theme I hope I don't sound too harsh, I just want Intrepid to look the best it can. On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Ubuntu Artists- I just released the newest mockup for Clear Intrepid here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Clear_Intrepid Things that have changed: 1) Smaller fonts 2) Close/Min/Max Buttons 3) Forward/Backward/Refresh/Up Buttons 4) Smaller Menu Things that still need to be done: 1) A professional looking, matching icon set needs to be found. Any suggestions? Salane Ashcraft -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ideas
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Mayhew wrote: Another part of the idea of Humanness is that Ubuntu should work on as many computers as possible. Compiz, blending, and other discussed require specific graphics cards or use too much processing power to be practical on many computers; these should be incorporated when they have been made as efficient as possible and when the graphics required are the minimum available, not an arbitrary level that too many people fail to meet. No. Let XFCE and Open/Flux/Blackbox worry about these people. I agree completely. I know that most of this wasn't directed towards me, but I just want to clarify my position. I'm all for taking full advantage of Compiz and the like to make Ubuntu as elegant as possible. My only concern with the completely borderless windows was that it might not degrade gracefully. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Themes
Frank Schoep wrote: The sound work was done by Peter Savage (cbx33) and has undergone several revisions before being included as is, yesterday. The African themeing is indeed evident but not over the top I think. Both the sounds and artwork were designed with the Ubuntu philosophy and history in mind: Overall I really like the new design, good work! My only complaint would be, that the sounds are a bit long. If you have a rather fast machine, the logout sound will still play even if gdm already shows up again (this also produces a mix of the the gdm drum roll sound and the log out sound, which is a bit odd). Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art