Re: [ubuntu-in] (no subject)

2007-05-09 Thread 杨晓峰
the kubuntu DVD can be added as a source, but I don't know what in it:-)

Roshan 写道:
 Hello Lists, (see header)

 I am using Kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) on my second
 hdd and three applications, Konqueror, Konverstaion
 and Kopete (yes, KDE - Kyonki haha) on my MTNL Triband
 line, without specifying the DNS. The automatically
 accepted DNS was the IP address of the ADSL Router /
 Modem. 
 (D-Link 502 T)

 I wasn't able to get updates using apt-get because,
 the command would fetch the first URL and become
 stagnant with no network activity over the ethernet
 LED. 

 I finally, decided to add the DNS servers provided by
 MTNL, and wow! apt-get could finally understand what
 it is supposed to connect to and fetched updates. 

 Phew! Why didn't the K affect the 'K'onsole. Some
 other underlying protocol, perhaps?

 BTW, I managed to install Firefox (1.5.0.11) and have
 bookmarked two links on installing Firefox 2.0 on
 *buntu. 

 These updates consumes a lot of my bits, and that
 brings me to a question!

 Can I (if I get one) use the Kubuntu 6.06 DVD as a
 source for installing common applications (such as say
 GCC 3.x or 4.x, Java 1.4.x JRE 1.5.x etc?)

 If yes, anyone in Mumbai with a Kubuntu 6.06 DVD?

 --
 FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in
 S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc


   
 __
 Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new
 http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

   



-- 
ubuntu-in mailing list
ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in


Re: [ubuntu-in] (no subject)

2007-05-09 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 20:57 +0100, Roshan wrote:
 Hello Lists, (see header)
 
 I am using Kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) on my second
 hdd and three applications, Konqueror, Konverstaion
 and Kopete (yes, KDE - Kyonki haha) on my MTNL Triband
 line, without specifying the DNS.
[...]

 I finally, decided to add the DNS servers provided by
 MTNL, and wow! apt-get could finally understand what
 it is supposed to connect to and fetched updates. 
[...]

Um, why exactly were you surprised with this? Of course,
DNS needs to be set up properly in order for name
resolution to work. Once you get tired of MTNL's sorry
excuse for DNS, run your own with the named package.

 Can I (if I get one) use the Kubuntu 6.06 DVD as a
 source for installing common applications (such as say
 GCC 3.x or 4.x, Java 1.4.x JRE 1.5.x etc?)
[...]

Yes, this can be done, provided that the applications are
actually on the DVD, e.g., I am not so sure about the JRE,
presuming that you are referring to the Sun version. What
you need to do is to add the DVD to /etc/apt/sources.list.
Google should turn up various links telling you how to do
this, e.g., http://www.debianhelp.org/node/6706 If you are
unfamiliar with apt, and would like a GUI, try synaptic. It
will let you easily add a CD/DVD as a source.

Regards,
Gora


-- 
ubuntu-in mailing list
ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in


Re: [ubuntu-in] (Kubuntu 6.06 and K apps ) (was no-subject)

2007-05-09 Thread Roshan
--- Gora Mohanty wrote:

 Um, why exactly were you surprised with this? Of
 course,
 DNS needs to be set up properly in order for name
 resolution to work. 

Konqueror, for one, was working without the need of
supplying a nameserver (public DNS, rather) in
/etc/resolv.conf 
All that it had in DNS (or /etc/resolv.conf) was the
ADSL Router/Modem 's IP address. 

 Once you get tired of MTNL's
 sorry
 excuse for DNS, run your own with the named package.

Till date, I haven't faced any problem with their DNS,
and Triband is working pretty well for me. 
 
  Can I (if I get one) use the Kubuntu 6.06 DVD as a
  source for installing common applications (such as
 say
  GCC 3.x or 4.x, Java 1.4.x JRE 1.5.x etc?)
 [...]
 
 Yes, this can be done, provided that the
 applications are
 actually on the DVD, e.g., I am not so sure about
 the JRE,
 presuming that you are referring to the Sun version.

I am referring to the Sun Version. It is available in
the repos, but that seems to be a lot of download for
me.

 What
 you need to do is to add the DVD to
 /etc/apt/sources.list.
 Google should turn up various links telling you how
 to do
 this, e.g., http://www.debianhelp.org/node/6706 If
 you are
 unfamiliar with apt, and would like a GUI, try
 synaptic. It
 will let you easily add a CD/DVD as a source.

Umm, Ok. I will try this sometime.

--
FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in
S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc
ubunturos @ freenode


  Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download 
CHAT? Click here: http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

-- 
ubuntu-in mailing list
ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in


Re: [ubuntu-in] (no subject)

2007-05-09 Thread rohit bhute
On 5/9/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, this can be done, provided that the applications are
 actually on the DVD, e.g., I am not so sure about the JRE,
 presuming that you are referring to the Sun version. What
 you need to do is to add the DVD to /etc/apt/sources.list.
 Google should turn up various links telling you how to do
 this, e.g., http://www.debianhelp.org/node/6706 If you are
 unfamiliar with apt, and would like a GUI, try synaptic. It
 will let you easily add a CD/DVD as a source.

Try man apt-cdrom. The command (I think) is apt-cdrom add device.
You should unmount the drive first. I'm in office so can't chek the
specifics.
-- 
Rohit V. Bhute
http://blog.rvbhute.org/

-- 
ubuntu-in mailing list
ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in


Re: [ubuntu-in] (no subject)

2007-05-09 Thread Onkar Shinde
On 5/9/07, Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Can I (if I get one) use the Kubuntu 6.06 DVD as a
 source for installing common applications (such as say
 GCC 3.x or 4.x, Java 1.4.x JRE 1.5.x etc?)
/snip

The DVD will contain only applications from main and restricted
repository. So it won't contain Sun JRE (multiverse). But the Free JRE
based on GIJ supports Java 1.4.x pretty well.

By the way, the updates provided for Dapper LTS consist only bug fixes
and security updates. It won't contain new releases of packages, so
you will miss new features.
I suggest that you first upgrade to edgy and then to feisty. You can
use 'Alternate CD' for these releases as repository for apt. Of course
using CD will upgrade only the packages that are on CD by default and
not the extra packages you installed from repository. So I suggest
that when upgrading, you remove the extra packages you installed,
upgrade to feisty using CD and then install the packages you want from
repositories.



Onkar
-- 
Passion - Some people climb mountains - others write Free software.
Don't ask why - the reason is the same.

-- 
ubuntu-in mailing list
ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in


Re: [ubuntu-in] Sound problems...

2007-05-09 Thread Onkar Shinde
On 5/9/07, Sanjay Bhangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey list,

 This is the problem:
 When I plug in headphones to my laptop, sound plays on the headphones, but
 wont turn off on my laptop. If i turn the volume down, it goes down on both.
 I tried alsa mixer, but it doesn't have separate controls. It's a little
 strange, and quite annoying. I tried reading up on ALSA configurations, etc.
 but couldn't find any reference for this specific problem. I have a Lenovo
 N100 3000, running Ubuntu 6.10 .


Does your laptop has intel chipset? If it is so then I think it is a
known bug with alsa drivers. You should find the bug in launchpad or
try to google it. Can't help more with it as I neither have link to
bug noe to the workaround which I read about a month back.



Onkar
-- 
Passion - Some people climb mountains - others write Free software.
Don't ask why - the reason is the same.

-- 
ubuntu-in mailing list
ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in


[ubuntu-in] Ubuntu-In Site Re structure

2007-05-09 Thread Aanjhan R
Heya All,

I would like to propose a new structure to the Ubuntu-IN website as I
feel that slowly more data is getting added and things are going out
of sorts. Also the Help page seems to have a lot of info which needs
to be sorted. So my proposed sections are as follows:

Documentation


This will have all the How-tos links to screen casts. They can also
contain what How-to needs to be added or say A How-To Wish list can
also be here.

Projects
-
Would describe about the projects that are/was taken up by the
community. For Eg. The Extra CD project. This page can also contain
some To Do list

Events
-
News/Information about the various floss events happening?

The current Help page can contain the info on How to join the mailing
list, IRC Info etc. The Team page is OK IMO. And the main page can
have the General Info, Aims, Visions and all those

Requesting your valuable feedback upon which we could start the
process of revamping.

Reggies.
-- 
Aanjhan
--
a.k.a Tuxmaniac
Locations: #ubuntu-in, #linux-india, #gnu-india @irc.freenode.net
CyberHome: http://www.tuxmaniac.com
--

-- 
ubuntu-in mailing list
ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in


Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu-In Site Re structure

2007-05-09 Thread Parthan S R
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Aanjhan R wrote:
 Heya All,

 I would like to propose a new structure to the Ubuntu-IN website as I
 feel that slowly more data is getting added and things are going out
 of sorts. Also the Help page seems to have a lot of info which needs
 to be sorted. So my proposed sections are as follows:

 Documentation
 

 This will have all the How-tos links to screen casts. They can also
 contain what How-to needs to be added or say A How-To Wish list can
 also be here.

 Projects
 -
 Would describe about the projects that are/was taken up by the
 community. For Eg. The Extra CD project. This page can also contain
 some To Do list

 Events
 -
 News/Information about the various floss events happening?

 The current Help page can contain the info on How to join the mailing
 list, IRC Info etc. The Team page is OK IMO. And the main page can
 have the General Info, Aims, Visions and all those

 Requesting your valuable feedback upon which we could start the
 process of revamping.

 Reggies.

+1 for Awesome! :)

- --
With Regards
- ---
Parthan aka Technofreak

[weblog] http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com
[flickr] http://flickr.com/photos/techno_freak
[irc] techno_freak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFGQoxfk4vYYS/wECYRAgPQAJ9HBhCNCM0anHh//gpmrXPfG5BcXwCfZgJ5
qe8RBOq/F0iWSGGF/EPlyBs=
=uRIr
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


-- 
ubuntu-in mailing list
ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:07:26AM +0100, Michael Wood wrote:
 Hi
 
 As per the last ubuntu-uk meeting i've been working on the ubuntu-uk.org 
 website. Porting it over to the current ubuntu main page design and 
 adding some features.
 
 - Drop down menu with all the wiki pages on
 - Banner image rotates round various pictures of the UK
 
 The development version of the site is at http://www.ubuntu-uk.org/dev/ 
 Please post any feedback.
 

This is *totally* awesome!

 Once this site is acceptable we can then switch it over to the live site.
 

Yuppers. Can we also get this checked into bzr so that other loco teams can 
grab the code and make their loco sites look as great as ours ;)

 Things to consider doing (longer term): Calendar, photo gallery and 
 integrating mailing list/planet/pastebin/forum/launchpad team? into main 
 page, getting it xhtml strict validating wai etc
 

Do it man, DO IT! :)

Cheers,
Al.

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:31:41AM +0100, Chris Rowson wrote:
 Hey there,
 
 I think it'll look great once it's been ported across to the new site
 design, the site's looking really promising.
 
 One thing that does strike me however is the banner across the top.
 
 I'm not sure the ubuntu-uk logo needs repeating again in the banner.
 I'm not that fond of the picture of a mountain landscape either. It
 seems a little out of place.
 

Refresh your browser, the image changes. There was originally just a picture 
of a London landscape, but it was decided that it would be more appropriate 
for the whole UK if the picture changed.

I suggested that people could submit their own pictures, which would mean 
yet another way people could get involved.

Cheers,
Al.

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


[ubuntu-uk] FWD:[[SFD-discuss] Registrations are open for SFD 2007!]

2007-05-09 Thread Alan Pope
FYI. Software Freedom Day are taking registrations.

Are we (Ubuntu-UK loco) going to do something, or should we do stuff at the 
LUG level?

Given it's SFD, not UFD, maybe it's more appropriate to do that with LUGs as 
they are (often) distro-agnostic. Maybe we should all go back to our LUGs 
and ask them if they want to do something.

Last year I went to London with Greater London LUG and we gave out a couple 
of hundred Ubuntu CDs and leaflets. It was a great day and I highly 
encourage others to do similar things.

Cheers,
Al.

- Forwarded message from Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 06:56:54 +1000
From: Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Open discussions about SFD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SFD-discuss] Registrations are open for SFD 2007!

Hi all!

Registrations are open for Software Freedom Day 2007!

Welcome to the planning and preparation for Software Freedom Day 2007. We
have more resources, documentation and goodies for you, and we look forward
to sharing the biggest and best SFD ever with you all!

== Registration ==

The SFD2007 team registration is now open! You'll need to register before
the schwag deadline (31 July) to receive shirts, balloons and stickers to
help your event look spectacular. Teams that register after the schwag
deadline will still be included as official events, but will not receive any
goodies.

Each team (registered before the schwag deadline) will receive two SFD2007
shirts for free. We will have extra shirts for sale soon, however if your
team has special needs or is in a developing nation, please send us a
special extra tshirts request to info [at] sf-day.org and we will consider more
shirts for your team on a case by case basis. There are limited numbers of
shirts, balloons and stickers, and we will try to make sure teams are as
well equipped as possible.

Teams can find information from the Start Guide including artwork, marketing
information, generic press releases, tips and tricks for running an event
and much more - http://softwarefreedomday.org/StartGuide

Many thanks to Robert Schumann who tirelessy worked on the registration
page!

== Website ==

Firstly, please note that in order to keep the website sane, we have
migrated all 2006 team pages to an archive page. You are completely welcome
to copy and paste from your archived pages to a new page, but you'll need to
create a new team page prior to your team registration.

We've got a new look and feel. Many thanks to Phil Harper who created the
look and feel and Judy Wilson who updated loads of information.

== Team Communications ==

We are currently not running a forum, and encourage you all to post to the
sfd-discuss mailing list for questions, ideas, team announcements and more.
Join the sfd-discuss mailing list at
http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss. All team leaders that
register will be automatically added to the sfd-announce mailing list if
they are not already on it. If enough people request the forum functionality
back again we may enable it.

Ensure your SFD team page is up to date so that people can find and attend
your event. If you choose to have a SFD team page separate from the SFD
website, please ensure you link to it so everyone can find events through
the SFD website.

Make sure you link any press coverage of your event and press releases to
http://softwarefreedomday.org/press.

== Competition ==

We will certainly be running a competition again this year, however will be
announcing the competition within the month. Please check out last years
competition for some ideas as this years competition will be very similar.
http://softwarefreedomday.org/competition.

== Questions? ==

Please post questions to the sfd-discuss mailing list so all teams can learn
from and support each other. For specific or private enquiries, please email
info [at] sf-day [dot] org.

Cheers,

Pia Waugh
President
Software Freedom International

-- 
Software Freedom Day 2007http://softwarefreedomday.org/
 
There is no darkness but ignorance. - William Shakespeare

___
SFD-discuss mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss

- End forwarded message -

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 00:31 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote:
 Hey there,
 
 I think it'll look great once it's been ported across to the new site
 design, the site's looking really promising.
 
 One thing that does strike me however is the banner across the top.
 
 I'm not sure the ubuntu-uk logo needs repeating again in the banner.

That green thing is just pug ugly.  But that's about the only visual
aspect I can be really negative about.  It's a nice initial page.  I
quite like the banner because it makes the page seem not to be
text-heavy, but it could be played with a bit.  I think the arrangement
of the rest of the text is good, too.


 I'm not that fond of the picture of a mountain landscape either. It
 seems a little out of place.

The images in the banner could do with filling in the available area.

Wonder if it'd be better to have uk-specific news and/or selected uk
members' blog posts on the first page with an about link instead.  Even
though this new design is great for getting people involved in the
group, is there a compelling reason to return to the site?  Then again,
is the page intended just for potential members?  I know, e.g., posts
are available elsewhere, but I'm lazy/time-constrained and want it all
too easy.

Good thing about this thread is I've actually paid a bit of attention to
the site, because I didn't bother at first.  Wonder how many people have
been similarly slack in this regard, and why?


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] FWD:[[SFD-discuss] Registrations are open for SFD 2007!]

2007-05-09 Thread Peter Lewis
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 09:09:26 Alan Pope wrote:
 FYI. Software Freedom Day are taking registrations.

This looks really interesting. I'm glad that Ubuntu is co-sponsoring it.

 Are we (Ubuntu-UK loco) going to do something, or should we do stuff at the
 LUG level?

I'd be really interested in getting involved with something like this. I'm 
also a (rather inactive) fellow of the FSFE, so might be able to link up with 
them somehow.

But yeah, if it's to be a real life event based thing, then local action 
rather than anything national might be a wiser choice.

I have no experience of what this kind of event might look like, but would be 
keen to help out.

I'm based around a university, so it's a shame from my point of view that the 
thing falls just before the start of the new term.

 Given it's SFD, not UFD, maybe it's more appropriate to do that with LUGs
 as they are (often) distro-agnostic. Maybe we should all go back to our
 LUGs and ask them if they want to do something.

 Last year I went to London with Greater London LUG and we gave out a couple
 of hundred Ubuntu CDs and leaflets. It was a great day and I highly
 encourage others to do similar things.

Sounds interesting!

Pete.

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-09 Thread Ciaran Mooney
Morning,

I thought that I would add my own 2p into the discussion.

The current consensus seems to be that we all think it's a good idea
but agreeing on content is what's slowing us down. I'd like to make a
suggestion that we take a leaf out of apples books.

They have their I'm a Mac, I'm a PC adds, each one is short and
addresses a specific problem with PC's that Mac's don't. I'm not
saying we all put millions in to a TV campaign and hiring comedians.
Rather I suggest that rather than producing one almighty leaflet that
we make a small series of them, say 7-10. Each one should explain one
point, with a catchy statement introducing the problem. So one for
Virus', Freedom, Free Beer (That could be a good one), Support from
multiple friendly channels. etc

On each leaftet, maybe on the back would provide more information
about that one point. There should also be a website address that
points to the Ubuntu-UK site that has all the rest of the information
about all the points.

The format of these leaflets should be like the ones that are given
out by clubs and bars when they promote their businesses. May made to
look like the Ship-It Ubuntu CD Cases. Or perhaps the format would
allow us to slide them into the Ubunto CD cases.

I'm basing these ideas that most leaflets handed out are thrown away.
Most of the long boring and cheap leaflets are handed out by religious
groups or politicians, and people are not interested in spending time
reading them, people have become able to tune them out. The
promotional leaflets usually have a direct benefit for the person who
picked it up. free beer/drink/entry. We could also pray on this Order
a  Free CD from Ubuntu (Technically it'd be better send them to the
Ubuntu-UK site, then link them to Ship-It from there).

I'm thinking that these leaflets would be much more Public friendly
and would be more suitable to hand out a things like computer fairs.
They should be simple and hopefully they could start a conversation.

On a side note I'm also thinking of doing an event at my University
during Freshers fair, hopefully snare a few Computer Science students.
Leaflets like this would be fantastic.

I think the leaflet idea is great, we have a volunteer for printing
them, but I can see us getting bogged down in details. Would it be
possible to put this to a vote at the next meeting?

Hope you all like the idea. Criticisms welcome.

Ciaran

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 08:37 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
 On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:31:41AM +0100, Chris Rowson wrote:
  Hey there,
  
  I think it'll look great once it's been ported across to the new site
  design, the site's looking really promising.
  
  One thing that does strike me however is the banner across the top.
  
  I'm not sure the ubuntu-uk logo needs repeating again in the banner.
  I'm not that fond of the picture of a mountain landscape either. It
  seems a little out of place.
  
 
 Refresh your browser, the image changes. There was originally just a picture 
 of a London landscape, but it was decided that it would be more appropriate 
 for the whole UK if the picture changed.
 
 I suggested that people could submit their own pictures, which would mean 
 yet another way people could get involved.

Where can I submit some and what dimensions?


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:37:37AM +0100, TheVeech wrote:
 Where can I submit some and what dimensions?
 

I dont think we have a process yet, but if we uploaded the whole site to bzr 
then it would be nice to encourage members to use that for uploading 
pictures. If nothing else it would increase awareness and use of 
launchpad/bzr.

Cheers,
Al.

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] FWD:[[SFD-discuss] Registrations are open for SFD 2007!]

2007-05-09 Thread Nik Butler
Alan Pope wrote:
 FYI. Software Freedom Day are taking registrations.
   
Alan, youve got the experience in delivery and exposure why not you kick 
of the project and get us organised for this.
 Are we (Ubuntu-UK loco) going to do something, or should we do stuff at the 
 LUG level?
   
I also think LUG level is relevant but theres nothing to stop the Ubuntu 
members within their Lugs motivating and explaining to their members 
what SFD can and should achieve.


 Last year I went to London with Greater London LUG and we gave out a couple 
 of hundred Ubuntu CDs and leaflets. It was a great day and I highly 
 encourage others to do similar things.
   
Agreed. Count me .



Nik


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread ajb35
- Original Message -
From: Michael Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2007 12:08 am
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org
To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Cc: Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi
 
 As per the last ubuntu-uk meeting i've been working on the 
 ubuntu-uk.org 
 website. Porting it over to the current ubuntu main page design 
 and 
 adding some features.
 
 - Drop down menu with all the wiki pages on
 - Banner image rotates round various pictures of the UK
 
 The development version of the site is at http://www.ubuntu-
 uk.org/dev/ 
 Please post any feedback.
 
 Once this site is acceptable we can then switch it over to the 
 live site.
 
 Things to consider doing (longer term): Calendar, photo gallery 
 and 
 integrating mailing list/planet/pastebin/forum/launchpad team? 
 into main 
 page, getting it xhtml strict validating wai etc
 
 regards,
 
 Michael Wood
 
 -- 
 /\/\ichael [ [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ]
   \/\/ood  [ http://michaelwood.me.uk ]
 
 
 -- 
 ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
 

Great work on the site :)
- The random UK images are a good idea
- I don't like the yellow/green Ubuntu-UK logo background
- In the menu down the left hand side you've typo'd Resources
-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 09:39 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
 On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:37:37AM +0100, TheVeech wrote:
  Where can I submit some and what dimensions?
  
 
 I dont think we have a process yet, but if we uploaded the whole site to bzr 
 then it would be nice to encourage members to use that for uploading 
 pictures. If nothing else it would increase awareness and use of 
 launchpad/bzr.

Dunno about bzr, TBH.  I can see quite a few people looking at it and
not bothering.  I'm not thinking about how easy or complex bzr may be,
but the potential gaps this highlights elsewhere.

Yahoo's apparently selling its independence to another company, so I've
been looking around at alternatives to their services for FLOSS users
like me, who like the approach and trust that usually goes with that way
of doing things.

There isn't much, which leads me to wonder: even though Linux is gaining
a lot more 'non-geek' users, does the approach of the 'geek days' still
dominate how we do things in areas that may be preventing us from
adapting enough to new users' needs and making the most of the
influences they might bring?

Why aren't there prominent services like, say, Flickr or Gmail, by our
community for people who prefer the FLOSS way of doing things and don't
want to be tied to a company that retains the option to sell users short
(even though Novell contradicted this, this is by far the exception to
the rule)?  AFAIK, there's very little in this area, maybe because to
get the quality of software we have, a lot of us have to place the
emphasis more more on how software works, rather than examining what we
could potentially do with it?

At the moment, I can pick many alternative services to, say, Flickr, but
the independent ones are usually only independent because they exist to
be bought out.  Sod that.

In this instance, for photos to the Ubuntu-UK site, I'd like to be able
to upload photos to a social photo-sharing site and make this known
through web-based email, all via high-quality projects run by the FLOSS
community.  IMHO, what's happening with Yahoo! makes this a good time to
be thinking about it and about another possibility for indirectly
promoting FLOSS.


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] FWD:[[SFD-discuss] Registrations are open for SFD 2007!]

2007-05-09 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting Nik Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Alan Pope wrote:
 FYI. Software Freedom Day are taking registrations.

 Alan, youve got the experience in delivery and exposure why not you kick
 of the project and get us organised for this.
 Are we (Ubuntu-UK loco) going to do something, or should we do stuff at the
 LUG level?

 I also think LUG level is relevant but theres nothing to stop the Ubuntu
 members within their Lugs motivating and explaining to their members
 what SFD can and should achieve.


 Last year I went to London with Greater London LUG and we gave out a couple
 of hundred Ubuntu CDs and leaflets. It was a great day and I highly
 encourage others to do similar things.

 Agreed. Count me .

Its certainly something I'd be interested in doing on a Kent/Thanet  
basis within the LUG, I might even be able to get a local business  
involved...

Cheers,

M.
-- 
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Group Co-Ordinator
Thanet Linux User Group
http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPG KEY: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xFEA1BC16


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:53 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
 On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:37:46AM +0100, TheVeech wrote:
  On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 09:39 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
   On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:37:37AM +0100, TheVeech wrote:
Where can I submit some and what dimensions?

   
   I dont think we have a process yet, but if we uploaded the whole site to 
   bzr 
   then it would be nice to encourage members to use that for uploading 
   pictures. If nothing else it would increase awareness and use of 
   launchpad/bzr.
  
  Dunno about bzr, TBH.  I can see quite a few people looking at it and
  not bothering.  I'm not thinking about how easy or complex bzr may be,
  but the potential gaps this highlights elsewhere.
  
 
 Surely if you were told how to do it, it would pretty easy. I dont see this 
 thing being done every day by every Ubuntu-UK loco member, so it's not 
 exactly a headache.

Yes, I've never used it, but it looks simple enough.  Specific
instructions for using it in this context would save time, though.


 It would also be a great learning exercise because bzr is used heavily in 
 Ubuntu. It would be a nice way to get people learning how to use a versions 
 control system.

Never had to use one.  What are the options?


  There isn't much, which leads me to wonder: even though Linux is gaining
  a lot more 'non-geek' users, does the approach of the 'geek days' still
  dominate how we do things in areas that may be preventing us from
  adapting enough to new users' needs and making the most of the
  influences they might bring?
  
 
 There is nothing geek about using a service such as bzr to upload an 
 image. It is just an application. Difference is it doesn't have a funky web 
 2.0 frontend.

No, there's nothing geek - most people may just not be aware of it, but
more aware of other methods of sharing and submitting data.  For getting
images to the webmaster, more people will be aware of photo-sharing
sites than VCSs.

If there's any link regarding 'geekness' here, it's that photo-sharing
sites are designed more to encourage greater sociability between people,
whereas VCSs focus more on enabling groups to work towards getting 'the
job' done.


  Why aren't there prominent services like, say, Flickr or Gmail, by our
  community for people who prefer the FLOSS way of doing things and don't
  want to be tied to a company that retains the option to sell users short
  (even though Novell contradicted this, this is by far the exception to
  the rule)?  AFAIK, there's very little in this area, maybe because to
  get the quality of software we have, a lot of us have to place the
  emphasis more more on how software works, rather than examining what we
  could potentially do with it?
  
 
 That's a massive sentence and I don't understand what you are asking.

It's about as massive as asking why aren't there more of the social
websites for, e.g., photography, by the FLOSS community.  I can
appreciate you being peeved about a geek link with bzr, but the supposed
complexity of that paragraph has no bearing on your opinion or the
'geekishness' or otherwise of bzr.

'Funkiness' we can scoff at, but usability we can't.  'Funkiness' means
sweet FA without usability.  Flickr has both.  Bzr's lack of a 'funky'
frontend perhaps just means that there's different tools for different
tasks, since the mere existence of a GUI doesn't necessarily mean an
application is more usable.

The question remains, though: why do we neglect things like Flickr and
Gmail?


  At the moment, I can pick many alternative services to, say, Flickr, but
  the independent ones are usually only independent because they exist to
  be bought out.  Sod that.
  
 
 This is making bzr sound much more attractive.

That's the point!  I want options like this in other areas, too.


  In this instance, for photos to the Ubuntu-UK site, I'd like to be able
  to upload photos to a social photo-sharing site and make this known
  through web-based email, all via high-quality projects run by the FLOSS
  community.  IMHO, what's happening with Yahoo! makes this a good time to
  be thinking about it and about another possibility for indirectly
  promoting FLOSS.
  
 
 You seem to be contradicting yourself.
 
 Social network sites are evil because they can be bought by evil companies
 
 I don't want to use an open system to upload my images, I'd like to use an 
 evil social networking site.
 
 Call me thick. I don't get it. Short sentences work well on me.

This is dodgy logic all round.

The organisations behind some social network sites can take up a policy,
by agreeing to be bought out in a way that transforms the network, that
works against the interests of a number of users, whose views can be
disregarded, depending on the personalities running the organisations.


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Security on Version 6-06 LTS

2007-05-09 Thread George MacLeod

Hi Peter,
Getting used to the way things are done in Linux takes time if you're used
to Windows. You can install most software packages from either
ApplicationsAdd/Remove or by using the Synaptic package manager found in
SystemAdministrationSynaptic Package Manager. Using Synaptic you will be
able to install Firestarter (firewall) and ClamAV (anti-virus). Personally I
usually only install Firestarter.


On 08/05/07, Peter D Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello. I am a newbie to Linux system! My test bed is a partitioned
Pentium 3 also running the old MS Millenium Windows no longer
supported
that I can access via the intial Linux boot choice command. I
also run
an XP Tower and Laptop all on broadband. Being an old retired
guy I need
some encouragement and advice. Can access most things but need
advice on
how much security I get from version 6-06. I run McAfee firewall
and
viroscan on my Laptop and MS XP Firewall and AVG Free on my XP
Tower.
Linux security is a 'black hole' to me. Have tried to install
Snort and
lost myself somewhere out there on the internet! I have
downloaded the
new OpenOffice version from 2.0 to 2.2 but lost this program
somewhere
in the strange Linux filing system! How do I install it? Many
thanks.

PeterD


--
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:23:49PM +0100, TheVeech wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:53 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
  Surely if you were told how to do it, it would pretty easy. I dont see this 
  thing being done every day by every Ubuntu-UK loco member, so it's not 
  exactly a headache.
 
 Yes, I've never used it, but it looks simple enough.  Specific
 instructions for using it in this context would save time, though.
 

This will of course happen once the stuff is in place - assuming we decide 
to put the site in bzr. I just spoke to Jono and he is keen for us to do 
this also.

 Never had to use one.  What are the options?
 

I'd suggest that we have a small wiki page detailing how to upload picture 
rather than discussing the various options in mails on the list.

  There is nothing geek about using a service such as bzr to upload an 
  image. It is just an application. Difference is it doesn't have a funky web 
  2.0 frontend.
 
 No, there's nothing geek - most people may just not be aware of it, but
 more aware of other methods of sharing and submitting data.  For getting
 images to the webmaster, more people will be aware of photo-sharing
 sites than VCSs.
 

They are only aware of them because they are familiar with them and thus 
have probably used them. Before that they didn't. They had to learn. Why is 
it so hard for someone to spare a brain cell or five and learn something new 
rather than bitch on about using some different utterly unrelated 
technology?

 If there's any link regarding 'geekness' here, it's that photo-sharing
 sites are designed more to encourage greater sociability between people,
 whereas VCSs focus more on enabling groups to work towards getting 'the
 job' done.
 

Ok, I don't have time to sit and debate with you the pros and cons of 
version control systems. I suspect that is for another time.

 It's about as massive as asking why aren't there more of the social
 websites for, e.g., photography, by the FLOSS community.  I can
 appreciate you being peeved about a geek link with bzr, but the supposed
 complexity of that paragraph has no bearing on your opinion or the
 'geekishness' or otherwise of bzr.
 

I am not peeved, I just figured that learning bzr though uploading an image 
is a useful skill to have. Any idiot with a browser can upload a picture to 
flickr. How does that help anyone?

 'Funkiness' we can scoff at, but usability we can't.  'Funkiness' means
 sweet FA without usability.  Flickr has both.  Bzr's lack of a 'funky'
 frontend perhaps just means that there's different tools for different
 tasks, since the mere existence of a GUI doesn't necessarily mean an
 application is more usable.
 

I don't want to argue with you about this, I just don't have the time and 
for the most part I agree with you, so this will end up being a pointless 
discussion from my perspective.

Cheers,
Al.

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-09 Thread Chris Rowson
 They have their I'm a Mac, I'm a PC adds, each one is short and
 addresses a specific problem with PC's that Mac's don't. I'm not
 saying we all put millions in to a TV campaign and hiring comedians.
 Rather I suggest that rather than producing one almighty leaflet that
 we make a small series of them, say 7-10. Each one should explain one
 point, with a catchy statement introducing the problem.

Spot on - I totally agree with that.

Chris

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 12:50 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
 On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:23:49PM +0100, TheVeech wrote:
  On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:53 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
   Surely if you were told how to do it, it would pretty easy. I dont see 
   this 
   thing being done every day by every Ubuntu-UK loco member, so it's not 
   exactly a headache.
  
  Yes, I've never used it, but it looks simple enough.  Specific
  instructions for using it in this context would save time, though.
  
 
 This will of course happen once the stuff is in place - assuming we decide 
 to put the site in bzr. I just spoke to Jono and he is keen for us to do 
 this also.
 
  Never had to use one.  What are the options?
  
 
 I'd suggest that we have a small wiki page detailing how to upload picture 
 rather than discussing the various options in mails on the list.

No, I'm not asking specifically for this task - I was just interested in
what's out there.  No worries, I'll have a look.


   There is nothing geek about using a service such as bzr to upload an 
   image. It is just an application. Difference is it doesn't have a funky 
   web 
   2.0 frontend.
  
  No, there's nothing geek - most people may just not be aware of it, but
  more aware of other methods of sharing and submitting data.  For getting
  images to the webmaster, more people will be aware of photo-sharing
  sites than VCSs.
  
 
 They are only aware of them because they are familiar with them and thus 
 have probably used them. Before that they didn't. They had to learn. Why is 
 it so hard for someone to spare a brain cell or five and learn something new 
 rather than bitch on about using some different utterly unrelated 
 technology?

Hey, easy tiger!  Well I didn't make the direct link between the two
('elsewhere') - just that this way of doing things made me wonder why we
seem to lack these specific 'sociable' services that more people are
aware of, and which the proprietary world is doing more successfully at
the moment - like social-sharing photography sites.

Most people I've come across don't mind learning new things.  With the
people you're referring to, what were the incentives for them to learn
what they did learn, since they had to learn that, too?  So...why, and
why not VCS instead?  Aside from caricaturing them, is it because people
tend to be more interested in the social aspects of things, because
they've got their 9-5 for the other stuff?

As for 'bitching', if we shouldn't ask these questions, why not -
eyeballs and bugs, and all that?  I can learn new things and 'bitch'.
And I think both help.


  If there's any link regarding 'geekness' here, it's that photo-sharing
  sites are designed more to encourage greater sociability between people,
  whereas VCSs focus more on enabling groups to work towards getting 'the
  job' done.
  
 
 Ok, I don't have time to sit and debate with you the pros and cons of 
 version control systems. I suspect that is for another time.
 
  It's about as massive as asking why aren't there more of the social
  websites for, e.g., photography, by the FLOSS community.  I can
  appreciate you being peeved about a geek link with bzr, but the supposed
  complexity of that paragraph has no bearing on your opinion or the
  'geekishness' or otherwise of bzr.
  
 
 I am not peeved, I just figured that learning bzr though uploading an image 
 is a useful skill to have. Any idiot with a browser can upload a picture to 
 flickr. How does that help anyone?

LOL.  Because any idiot might get more out of it through doing it this
way.  Again, what's the incentives?  People must get something out of
these social sites that isn't overtly helpful, but benefits people in
ways other than more goal-driven activities.


  'Funkiness' we can scoff at, but usability we can't.  'Funkiness' means
  sweet FA without usability.  Flickr has both.  Bzr's lack of a 'funky'
  frontend perhaps just means that there's different tools for different
  tasks, since the mere existence of a GUI doesn't necessarily mean an
  application is more usable.
  
 
 I don't want to argue with you about this, I just don't have the time and 
 for the most part I agree with you, so this will end up being a pointless 
 discussion from my perspective.
 
 Cheers,
 Al.


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread Chris Rowson
 This will of course happen once the stuff is in place - assuming we decide
 to put the site in bzr. I just spoke to Jono and he is keen for us to do
 this also.

Without getting embroiled in the discussion ;-)

Just in case anyone isn't really familiar with bazaar, I wrote a walk
through a couple of weeks ago on using it here...

http://www.justuber.com/blog/2007/04/25/how-to-use-bazaar-and-launchpad-for-hosting-your-code/

Chris

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:30:07PM +0100, TheVeech wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 12:50 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
  They are only aware of them because they are familiar with them and thus 
  have probably used them. Before that they didn't. They had to learn. Why is 
  it so hard for someone to spare a brain cell or five and learn something 
  new 
  rather than bitch on about using some different utterly unrelated 
  technology?
 
 Hey, easy tiger!  Well I didn't make the direct link between the two
 ('elsewhere') - just that this way of doing things made me wonder why we
 seem to lack these specific 'sociable' services that more people are
 aware of, and which the proprietary world is doing more successfully at
 the moment - like social-sharing photography sites.
 

I have no idea what you're talking about. You are saying that flickr/google 
video are proprietary social networking tools that we in the open source 
community lack?

  So...why, and
 why not VCS instead?

If we use bzr for sharing the photos that are used for our site then others 
can easily check them in and out, modify them and we have all the benefits a 
source control system has. Version management being one.
 
  I am not peeved, I just figured that learning bzr though uploading an image 
  is a useful skill to have. Any idiot with a browser can upload a picture to 
  flickr. How does that help anyone?
 
 LOL.  Because any idiot might get more out of it through doing it this
 way.  Again, what's the incentives?  People must get something out of
 these social sites that isn't overtly helpful, but benefits people in
 ways other than more goal-driven activities.
 

This conversation is going in a direction I am not interested in and have no 
time to contribute to this right now. I am only really interested in the 
root topic of the website and adding a few photos from around the uk.

Cheers,
Al.

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread Tony Arnold
Alan,

Alan Pope wrote:

 I have no idea what you're talking about. You are saying that flickr/google 
 video are proprietary social networking tools that we in the open source 
 community lack?

I think TheVeech is suggesting the open source community should
create/manage/run more social networking tools such as flickr etc.
rather than rely on big companies to do it for us and therefore
(perhaps) not provide support for Linux etc.

Personally, I think this would be very difficult. A service such as
Flickr must need huge resources for it to be successful (I mean in terms
of hardware, the disk space alone must be fairly huge). Such resources
do not come for free, so it either needs to be done by a company that is
earning money else where or the service itself has to get an income from
somewhere.

To be honest, I don't see the problem with Flickr! It's well supported
by F-spot. Perhaps rumours of some deal between Yahoo and Micro$oft is
worrying people.

Regards,
Tony.
-- 
Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester,
IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL.
T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread john levin
Michael Wood wrote:
 Hi
 
 As per the last ubuntu-uk meeting i've been working on the ubuntu-uk.org 
 website. Porting it over to the current ubuntu main page design and 
 adding some features.

All very good.

 
 - Drop down menu with all the wiki pages on
 - Banner image rotates round various pictures of the UK
 

Can we have the photos centred in the top banner, just for neatnesses sake.

 The development version of the site is at http://www.ubuntu-uk.org/dev/ 
 Please post any feedback.
 

Presume you mean post feedback on this list.

Two typos: Reasources - Resources (left sidebar heading)
memebers - members (Our Pages, Ubuntu-UK team)

HTH

John


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


[ubuntu-uk] Petition the Government for Open Source

2007-05-09 Thread Chris Rowson
I was just browsing through the No 10 E-Petitions website and came
across these two petitions. I signed them and hope you will too ;-)

Please spread them around if you can.

Chris


Encourage Greater Use of Open Source in Government

Most government departments are significantly reliant on software from
foreign multinationals such as Microsoft. All of these substantial
licencing costs then generate funds for foreign corporations, taking
money out of our own economy.

If the emphasis is put on using Open Source and locally-developed
solutions, then the IT investment is redirected towards local IT
services employment, benefiting the economy. Existing infrastructure
(such as existing desktop operating systems) would not be replaced
without good reason, but the intended progression would be towards
making less use of foreign commercial software over time.

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/softwareuse/

Stop Teaching Software such as MS Office in Schools, Use Open Office

Taxpayers' money is being used to bolster Microsoft's monopoly
position in the office suite market by teaching children from an early
age only to use Microsoft Word.

This practice also wastes money buying licenses when there are free
office suites available, such as OpenOffice. If schools switched to
using and teaching open source software, more money would be freed up
to pay for teaching staff. Students would also not have to pay for
proprietary software to continue their studies.

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/teach-oss/


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Social FLOSS?

2007-05-09 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 14:17 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote:
 Alan,
 
 Alan Pope wrote:
 
  I have no idea what you're talking about. You are saying that flickr/google 
  video are proprietary social networking tools that we in the open source 
  community lack?
 
 I think TheVeech is suggesting the open source community should
 create/manage/run more social networking tools such as flickr etc.
 rather than rely on big companies to do it for us and therefore
 (perhaps) not provide support for Linux etc.

I hadn't thought of that last bit, but, yeah, that too!


 Personally, I think this would be very difficult. A service such as
 Flickr must need huge resources for it to be successful (I mean in terms
 of hardware, the disk space alone must be fairly huge). Such resources
 do not come for free, so it either needs to be done by a company that is
 earning money else where or the service itself has to get an income from
 somewhere.

I've said this before, but I wouldn't mind paying as a way of
contributing to something that's in our interests - I couldn't see it
happening without some contributions - but run like the projects, to
provide the best web-based services we can.  But these are ideas without
purpose, because I wouldn't know where to begin!

BTW, IIRC, Google just uses bog standard Hard Drives.


 To be honest, I don't see the problem with Flickr! It's well supported
 by F-spot. Perhaps rumours of some deal between Yahoo and Micro$oft is
 worrying people.

TBH, I haven't heard of anyone getting heated about this, but I've had
enough of the situation.  All of 'em are just stuck in the food chain.
Flickr gets swallowed up by Yahoo!, Yahoo! is looking to being swallowed
up by MS, Roman Abramovich buys Pluto.


 Regards,
 Tony.
 -- 
 Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester,
 IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL.
 T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039
 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold
 


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Bzr (Was: www.ubuntu-uk.org)

2007-05-09 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 14:00 +0100, Stephen Garton wrote:
 On 09/05/07, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This will of course happen once the stuff is in place - assuming we decide
   to put the site in bzr. I just spoke to Jono and he is keen for us to do
   this also.
 
  Without getting embroiled in the discussion ;-)
 
  Just in case anyone isn't really familiar with bazaar, I wrote a walk
  through a couple of weeks ago on using it here...
 
  http://www.justuber.com/blog/2007/04/25/how-to-use-bazaar-and-launchpad-for-hosting-your-code/
 
  Chris
 
 Cheers for the link Chris, I was just thinking about asking for a link
 to something like this :)

I'll second that.  Much needed.  Thanks.


 After reading your post (and scanning throught the Bazaar tutorial you
 link to in it), I can see how bzr can be used as a version control
 system for code, but I don't see how it could/would/should be used in
 the manner being discussed in the other thread, i.e. people uploading
 'british' images for use in the rotating banner.
 
 Is it similar to using (for example) scp to upload to a remote
 directory, but with revision control? If someone could clarify this, I
 would be most grateful!
 
 
 -- 
 Steve Garton
 http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk
 
 
 
 -- 
 Steve Garton
 http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk
 


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Social FLOSS?

2007-05-09 Thread Josh Blacker

On 5/9/07, TheVeech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 14:17 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote:
 Alan Pope wrote:

  I have no idea what you're talking about. You are saying that

flickr/google

  video are proprietary social networking tools that we in the open

source

  community lack?

 I think TheVeech is suggesting the open source community should
 create/manage/run more social networking tools such as flickr etc.
 rather than rely on big companies to do it for us and therefore
 (perhaps) not provide support for Linux etc.

I hadn't thought of that last bit, but, yeah, that too!


 Personally, I think this would be very difficult. A service such as
 Flickr must need huge resources for it to be successful (I mean in terms
 of hardware, the disk space alone must be fairly huge). Such resources
 do not come for free, so it either needs to be done by a company that is
 earning money else where or the service itself has to get an income from
 somewhere.

I've said this before, but I wouldn't mind paying as a way of
contributing to something that's in our interests - I couldn't see it
happening without some contributions - but run like the projects, to
provide the best web-based services we can.  But these are ideas without
purpose, because I wouldn't know where to begin!

BTW, IIRC, Google just uses bog standard Hard Drives.


 To be honest, I don't see the problem with Flickr! It's well supported
 by F-spot. Perhaps rumours of some deal between Yahoo and Micro$oft is
 worrying people.

TBH, I haven't heard of anyone getting heated about this, but I've had
enough of the situation.  All of 'em are just stuck in the food chain.
Flickr gets swallowed up by Yahoo!, Yahoo! is looking to being swallowed
up by MS, Roman Abramovich buys Pluto.


 Regards,
 Tony.


Just to add to this:
We use it, we love it, we are committed to its principles, we even make
some of it ourselves. is from a blog post on the Facebook blog (
http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=2223862130) . They apparently run
mostly linux servers and they used MySQL for their database needs (and it
must be one hell of a database). They also release advances they make back
to the open-source community, such as 'phpsh', whatever that might be! *And*
Mark Zuckerberg hasn't sold out (yet) despite at least one very high offer!




--
Josh Blacker
-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Social FLOSS?

2007-05-09 Thread Tony Arnold


TheVeech wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 14:17 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote:

 Personally, I think this would be very difficult. A service such as
 Flickr must need huge resources for it to be successful (I mean in terms
 of hardware, the disk space alone must be fairly huge). Such resources
 do not come for free, so it either needs to be done by a company that is
 earning money else where or the service itself has to get an income from
 somewhere.
 
 I've said this before, but I wouldn't mind paying as a way of
 contributing to something that's in our interests - I couldn't see it
 happening without some contributions - but run like the projects, to
 provide the best web-based services we can.  But these are ideas without
 purpose, because I wouldn't know where to begin!

Many of these services are offered, at least in a limited form, for free
and then the really useful service is charged for. But even that needs a
sizeable initial investment to get going. Obviously possible, but way
beyond my knowledge base!

 BTW, IIRC, Google just uses bog standard Hard Drives.

Yes, but thousands of them!

  TBH, I haven't heard of anyone getting heated about this, but I've had
 enough of the situation.  All of 'em are just stuck in the food chain.
 Flickr gets swallowed up by Yahoo!, Yahoo! is looking to being swallowed
 up by MS, Roman Abramovich buys Pluto.

Does he know it's not a planet any more:-)

Regards,
Tony.
-- 
Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester,
IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL.
T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


[ubuntu-uk] The Open Source Web (was: www.ubuntu-uk.org)

2007-05-09 Thread John Levin
This is a subject that has been exercising me recently (curese you 
myspace!), so excuse venting and change of subject.

Tony Arnold wrote:
 Alan,
 
 Alan Pope wrote:
 
 I have no idea what you're talking about. You are saying that flickr/google 
 video are proprietary social networking tools that we in the open source 
 community lack?
 

There certainly are the tools, although they aren't widely used (which 
means, in this FLOSS context, that they aren't widely developed, or even 
known off).

Leader of the FLOSS pack at the moment is mugshot: http://mugshot.org/main

 I think TheVeech is suggesting the open source community should
 create/manage/run more social networking tools such as flickr etc.
 rather than rely on big companies to do it for us and therefore
 (perhaps) not provide support for Linux etc.


We need support for our desktop and OS, yes, but we also need the many 
eyeballs to stomp bugs, improve security etc. A web application can (and 
many do) benefit from the floss community just as much as, say, firefox, 
ubuntu or the kernel.

 Personally, I think this would be very difficult. A service such as
 Flickr must need huge resources for it to be successful (I mean in terms
 of hardware, the disk space alone must be fairly huge). Such resources
 do not come for free, so it either needs to be done by a company that is
 earning money else where or the service itself has to get an income from
 somewhere.

Remember that Ubuntu, Debian, etc need huge and ever expanding resources 
for serving up increasing numbers of packages and isos; to help with 
this there is a mirroring infrastructure, and that model could work with 
the social web. At any rate, by being free n open, there are other ways 
of dealing with bandwidth and hardware, rather than the centralised 
system absolutely required of proprietory web services.

 
 To be honest, I don't see the problem with Flickr! It's well supported
 by F-spot. Perhaps rumours of some deal between Yahoo and Micro$oft is
 worrying people.
 

It's not free as in freedom: it suffers from lock-in (myspace is a far 
worse offender in this sense), the users are not stakeholders, but 
audience to be traded, etc; what applies to your desktop and operating 
system applies also to one's web applications.

Okay, so far I've just been banging away on the benefits of free 
software, and saying that this applies to web-application code, which 
is, after all, *code*

There are many, very good, free web apps around: wordpress is the prime 
example, being best of type in the blogging sphere.

But where is the FLOSS webmaster community? Is there such a thing? If 
not, how shall we create it? And can such a thing take to heart the 
ubuntu way, of making things usable and accessible? (And perhaps even: 
polite :) )

Parting thought: this is going to affect *buntu-the-operating system, 
because web services are getting so prevalent. In fact, it is affecting 
it right now, proprietary formats are dominating the web (i.e. flash).

John



-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets [long reply]

2007-05-09 Thread Mark Harrison
Chris Rowson wrote:
 Hey Nik,

 I don't dispute savings in the SME arena mate. But I'm more interested
 in the processes by which large, corporate and public sector
 organisations can save money.

 I work in public sector IT, and I feel somewhat like I'm banging my
 head against a brick wall trying to introduce OSS into my workplace.
 I've had some small triumphs, but the noose of MS hangs tight around
 the necks of most corporate IT directors unfortunately

Chris,

Tell me about it :-)

I found that the strategy that worked for me was to get in the back 
office systems.

Start with heavy infrastructure things like:

- Proxy servers
- Mail relays
- DNS servers

... then move to web servers (which is actually quite a big deal if 
you've already got an ASP site)

... then email servers... (a bigger deal again)

... then the desktop (I've found that a Firefox. then OpenOffice.org 
... then Thunderbird then  ooh, a Linux desktop, not a Windows 
one) works better that big bang.


The problem you're up against is that, in a large organisation, the 
software licence costs are typically no more than 10-15% of the IT 
budget... and that the (current) transfer costs of switching to a new 
set of support staff / providers can far outweigh the (future) license 
savings unless you can hit them at a point where they were about to 
upgrade anyway.

M.




-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


[ubuntu-uk] Reconfiguring EXIM4 on 6.10.... mind gone blank

2007-05-09 Thread Mark Harrison
I'm having a senior moment.

There is a single command I need to run to take my EXIM4 configuration 
back to the start here, answer these basic questions, and I'll set up 
your config for you menu set last seen while installing the O/S, and I 
can't, for the life of me, remember it.

Help ?

M.




-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reconfiguring EXIM4 on 6.10.... mind gone blank

2007-05-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:01:28PM +0100, Mark Harrison wrote:
 I'm having a senior moment.
 
 There is a single command I need to run to take my EXIM4 configuration 
 back to the start here, answer these basic questions, and I'll set up 
 your config for you menu set last seen while installing the O/S, and I 
 can't, for the life of me, remember it.
 


sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config

Cheers,
Al.

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread Michael Wood
john levin wrote:
 Michael Wood wrote:
   
 Hi

 As per the last ubuntu-uk meeting i've been working on the ubuntu-uk.org 
 website. Porting it over to the current ubuntu main page design and 
 adding some features.
 

 All very good.

   
 - Drop down menu with all the wiki pages on
 - Banner image rotates round various pictures of the UK

 

 Can we have the photos centred in the top banner, just for neatnesses sake.

   

Is that centred horizontally ?
At the moment it should be centred vertically already (if it's working), 
if not then would it be possible to send me a screenshot showing what 
you mean.
 The development version of the site is at http://www.ubuntu-uk.org/dev/ 
 Please post any feedback.

 

 Presume you mean post feedback on this list.
   
Yep
 Two typos: Reasources - Resources (left sidebar heading)
 memebers - members (Our Pages, Ubuntu-UK team)

   

Corrected - Thanks

 HTH

 John


   
Cheers,

Michael


-- 
/\/\ichael [ [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ]
  \/\/ood  [ http://michaelwood.me.uk ]


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Petition the Government for Open Source

2007-05-09 Thread Toby Smithe
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 15:18 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote:
 I was just browsing through the No 10 E-Petitions website and came
 across these two petitions. I signed them and hope you will too ;-)

E-petitions never do any good... :(
It's just a way for the government to say; yeah, we hear you loud and
clear, but this is why we're not changing our ways...

Remember this? : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6349027.stm

I wish they did work, though; that's enough pessimism for the day,

Toby

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


[ubuntu-uk] techie vacancy

2007-05-09 Thread Ana GN
Hi,

it would be great to have applications from Ubuntu users, deadline is
this weekend ...

http://www.gn.apc.org/jobs.shtml?AA_SL_Session=7cdfa8a6a9f0c246cf16ea971aaafdd7x=552859
http://www.gn.apc.org/jobs.shtml?AA_SL_Session=7cdfa8a6a9f0c246cf16ea971aaafdd7x=552859
http://www.ethical-jobs.co.uk/jobs/may14_User_Support_Worker.htm
http://www.ethical-jobs.co.uk/jobs/may14_User_Support_Worker.htm

(sorry for the off-topic)

Ana

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 18:34 +0100, Michael Wood wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  snip 
  Great work on the site :)
  - The random UK images are a good idea
  - I don't like the yellow/green Ubuntu-UK logo background
 Any ideas on what it should be replaced with ? I'd just been borrowing 
 graphics from : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Projects so far.

No idea here, either, but there's someone on the forums who's posted
some banners - might get you thinking.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423968

 There are rather a large number of ubuntu logos so something without the 
 ubuntu logo would probably be good, though i'm not sure what exactly.
 
  - In the menu down the left hand side you've typo'd Resources
 Thanks, Corrected
 
 - Michael
 
 -- 
 /\/\ichael [ [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ]
   \/\/ood  [ http://michaelwood.me.uk ]
 
 


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread Toby Smithe
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:37 +0100, TheVeech wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 09:39 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
  On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:37:37AM +0100, TheVeech wrote:
   Where can I submit some and what dimensions?
   
  
  I dont think we have a process yet, but if we uploaded the whole site to 
  bzr 
  then it would be nice to encourage members to use that for uploading 
  pictures. If nothing else it would increase awareness and use of 
  launchpad/bzr.
 
 Dunno about bzr, TBH.  I can see quite a few people looking at it and
 not bothering.  I'm not thinking about how easy or complex bzr may be,
 but the potential gaps this highlights elsewhere.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingBZR is a little tutorial I wrote for the
UbuntuStudio team. Not that complex :)

-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] www.ubuntu-uk.org

2007-05-09 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 19:20 +0100, Toby Smithe wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:37 +0100, TheVeech wrote:
  On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 09:39 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
   On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:37:37AM +0100, TheVeech wrote:
Where can I submit some and what dimensions?

   
   I dont think we have a process yet, but if we uploaded the whole site to 
   bzr 
   then it would be nice to encourage members to use that for uploading 
   pictures. If nothing else it would increase awareness and use of 
   launchpad/bzr.
  
  Dunno about bzr, TBH.  I can see quite a few people looking at it and
  not bothering.  I'm not thinking about how easy or complex bzr may be,
  but the potential gaps this highlights elsewhere.
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingBZR is a little tutorial I wrote for the
 UbuntuStudio team. Not that complex :)

Thanks.  I've bookmarked this and Chris's page
(http://www.justuber.com/blog/2007/04/25/how-to-use-bazaar-and-launchpad-for-hosting-your-code/)
 for tomorrow.  Productively, today's just disappeared!


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] The Open Source Web

2007-05-09 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 17:04 +0100, John Levin wrote:
 This is a subject that has been exercising me recently (curese you 
 myspace!), so excuse venting and change of subject.
 
 Tony Arnold wrote:
  Alan,
  
  Alan Pope wrote:
  
  I have no idea what you're talking about. You are saying that 
  flickr/google 
  video are proprietary social networking tools that we in the open source 
  community lack?
  
 
 There certainly are the tools, although they aren't widely used (which 
 means, in this FLOSS context, that they aren't widely developed, or even 
 known off).
 
 Leader of the FLOSS pack at the moment is mugshot: http://mugshot.org/main

Thanks.  Had a look at this, but didn't realise it was FLOSS.  I'd love
to hear more about these tools.


  I think TheVeech is suggesting the open source community should
  create/manage/run more social networking tools such as flickr etc.
  rather than rely on big companies to do it for us and therefore
  (perhaps) not provide support for Linux etc.
 
 
 We need support for our desktop and OS, yes, but we also need the many 
 eyeballs to stomp bugs, improve security etc. A web application can (and 
 many do) benefit from the floss community just as much as, say, firefox, 
 ubuntu or the kernel.

It'd help to see the new users coming along from different backgrounds
using their fresh eyeballs, too, to examine even more than this - things
we may have overlooked for years.


  Personally, I think this would be very difficult. A service such as
  Flickr must need huge resources for it to be successful (I mean in terms
  of hardware, the disk space alone must be fairly huge). Such resources
  do not come for free, so it either needs to be done by a company that is
  earning money else where or the service itself has to get an income from
  somewhere.
 
 Remember that Ubuntu, Debian, etc need huge and ever expanding resources 
 for serving up increasing numbers of packages and isos; to help with 
 this there is a mirroring infrastructure, and that model could work with 
 the social web. At any rate, by being free n open, there are other ways 
 of dealing with bandwidth and hardware, rather than the centralised 
 system absolutely required of proprietory web services.

Even though there's community aspects to distros' networks, have they
dealt (maybe less so in recent years) primarily with the 'survival of
the species' - technology to make technology better?  Wasn't the GNU-GPL
initially designed mainly to protect programmers' rights before all
else?  I don't know, but I think you're right that the way these
networks, and things like jabber and bittorrent, have shown they can
work for masses of people could be adapted to projects with a slightly
different emphasis.  But is the imperative there yet?

I think the incentives behind FLOSS that I've read of are great for
tasks, but less productive for getting people socialising in ways that
you find on many of these sites.  FWIW - and what makes it relevant here
- is that it seems that the benefits that such social networks could
have on productivity is a neglected area.

I don't think the reason we've neglected such networks is just because
they're proprietary and we're still too geeky, it's just that they
effectively got there before us.  It might be that proprietary services
- OS and web - had to adapt sooner because they were hit with the
usability demands of general users earlier than us, and we're just
catching up.  At times I still hear some sort of elitism from linux
users that flies in the face of key principles - I'm as guilty as anyone
of that - but this elitism isn't usually heartfelt and it's bound to
become less of an issue with time.  We might just have to wait for that
time for 'socialising' sites like these to be seen as important in the
FLOSS world.


  To be honest, I don't see the problem with Flickr! It's well supported
  by F-spot. Perhaps rumours of some deal between Yahoo and Micro$oft is
  worrying people.
  
 
 It's not free as in freedom: it suffers from lock-in (myspace is a far 
 worse offender in this sense), the users are not stakeholders, but 
 audience to be traded, etc; what applies to your desktop and operating 
 system applies also to one's web applications.

This is what gripes me a bit.  I can get people using the OS, but when
they get here, what am I going to say?  Screw Flickr, email your snaps
and see your mates down the pub?  I'd get a predictable response no
matter how good my arguments were.  Okay, it's not the most important
thing, but it's still something I can't do for people that could be
done.  These people want something I can't offer, so they'll just go
elsewhere, and that elsewhere is probably going to be proprietary, with
formats and ideologies that reinforce the idea that proprietary works,
and with the idea that FLOSS must be for geeks because, to them, it
looks anti-social in comparison.


 Okay, so far I've just been banging away on the benefits of free 
 software, and 

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Social FLOSS?

2007-05-09 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 16:53 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote:
 Roman Abramovich buys Pluto.
 
 Does he know it's not a planet any more:-) 

Does he know he's not a manager?  Does he even know he's not a
planet :oO


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


getting files from my windows machine

2007-05-09 Thread Mohammed Al-shar'
hi.

I just want to see if people here know of an easier way to transfer files 
between my windows machine and my ubuntu one. what I currently have to do is 
copy them through a memory stick. in networking, neither of the 2 devices 
can detect each other, but they both are physically connected to the same 
network and to the net. since I couldn't get any of the administration tools 
work with speech it doesn't seem likely I can go further.

anybody can offer his help or advice?

All the best,
Mohammed Al-shar'
msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
skype: world.of.wonders
www.wowonders.net 


-- 
Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list
Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility


Re: Forgot something: Orca isn't starting on login

2007-05-09 Thread Willie Walker
 For some reason, even though it's checked in accessibility
 preferences, orca isn't starting on login. At least, it doesn't seem
 to be, as there's no speech. I can get it to run from alt-f2,
 though. Anything I should be checking on this?

Very odd.  It works for me.  :-(  What's the output of the following
commands for you?

gconftool --get /desktop/gnome/accessibility/startup/exec_ats
gconftool --get /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility 

I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gconftool --get 
/desktop/gnome/accessibility/startup/exec_ats
[orca]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gconftool --get /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility 
true

Will

 -- 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or phone 888-75-BUDDY
 Get a free online mall and earn on 1000 stores:
 http://www.powermall.us
 From Kitchen Disaster to Culinary Master, make meals and baking 
 easier and faster: http://www.tastyshop.net
 ...And see how a Watkins business can improve your life. Read our 
 free Ebook: http://www.tastybiz.com
 


-- 
Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list
Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?

2007-05-09 Thread Geilson Melo
Eu não consigo entender como um programa desse tipo é lançado para Mac e 
não para Linux, acredito que o percentual de máquinas rodando Linux seja 
superior ao de máquinas rodando Mac, mas mesmo assim um grupo de 
empresas parece não ver o que está bem claro.

Geilson

Marcus VBP escreveu:
 Houvi dizer que vai ter uma versão para Linux sim, mas não é prioridade.

 Em 08/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
   
 Essa é uma péssima notícia!

 Em 08/05/07, Rafael Gimenes Leite [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
 Poxa vida que pena.
 Eu estava começando a pesquisar este software!
 Agora nem preciso que me convidem.

 On 5/8/07, Maudy Pedrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Não existe Joost para Linux. Só para Win e Mac.
 http://joost.com/download/

 Abs

 On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?
 gostaria de saber por onde começar, se é que existem experiências
   
 nessa
   
 área.
 grato

 --
 Eis meu diário de leitura:

 http://prototeorias.blogspot.com

 o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
 do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
 nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
 interpretações.
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br

   

 --
 www.thebytes.com.br - www.ubuntudicas.blogspot.com -
 
 www.jedimania.com.br
   
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br

 

 --
 /* Rafael  Gimenes Leite
 Analista Desenvolvedor.
 linux user #404839
 http://www.rafaelgimenes.net
 http://vidacurta.net
 Em um mundo sem paredes, quem precisa de janelas?
 */
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br

   

 --
 Eis meu diário de leitura:

 http://prototeorias.blogspot.com

 o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
 do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
 nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
 interpretações.
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br

 



   



-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Novo Convertido

2007-05-09 Thread Marcelo Baino
José Geraldo,

Nunca usei essa placa wireless no Linux, mas tive problema semelhante com as 
Broadcom 43xx. 
Acho que a melhor solução nesse caso é utilizar o Ndiswrapper com o driver para 
Windows. 

até,

Marcelo.
 
José Geraldo Gouvêa [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Tem um amigo meu que veio me 
pedir para instalar Linux no computador 
dele. Ele está cansado de vírus que dão pau no sistema a cada vinte ou 
trinta dias, está casado de navegar com medo pela internet e está 
cansado de ter que fazer backup de todos os seus filmes e mp3 a cada mês.

Ele viu o Linux rodando aqui em casa e se convenceu de que se adaptará 
facilmente (afinal eu não sou nenhum imbecil e este tal de Linux não me 
parece nada difícil, disse ele).

O problema é que eu estou com medo de fazer a instalação e depois não 
dar certo e queimar o filme do Linux com o cara. Eu já fui até a casa 
dele e rodei pelo LiveCD e quase tudo funcionou, menos a webcam (a dele 
está com defeito mesmo, talvez ele compre outra) e a famigerada placa 
wireless Ralink com chipset rt16 (ou será rt61?).

Pelo que vi na internet esse modelo de placa wireless é suportado pelo 
Linux, pero no mucho: a própria wiki do Ubuntu, por exemplo, diz que o 
driver padrão que vem com o sistema não funciona e congela tudo toda vez 
que você tenta usar. Na minha opinião -- se isso é verdade -- é um bug 
do tamanho de um elefante e quem inclui esse pacote estava sob efeito de 
algum psicotrópico, mas deixa pra lá. Para usar essa placa é preciso 
compilar o código-fonte do driver (só que o link para downlod do fonte 
está quebrado e nenhuma ferramenta de busca me achou o raio do arquivo) 
e configurar manualmente, como eu fazia quando usava meu winmodem HSP56.

Gostaria de saber a opinião de vocês sobre o estado do suporte a essa 
placa, as perspectivas de correção desse bug do sistema e se vocês me 
aconselham tentar a aventura de instalar Ubuntu para o cara e depis 
tentar compilar o módulo de kernel.

Estou aberto a opiniões.


José Geraldo

P.S. -- O cara não quer dual boot não. Ele disse que quer fazer no Linux 
tudo que ele fazia no Windows (navegar na internet, assistir filmes 
(DVD), ouvir música, escrever documentos simples e colecionar 
figurinhas) e está convencido de que manter o Windows junto só vai 
servir para continuar tendo as mesmas dores de cabeça. Ou seja, temos um 
convertido total em potencial. ;-)

-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


 __
Fale com seus amigos  de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger 
http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/ 
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?

2007-05-09 Thread Marcus VBP
Acredito que seja que os usuários do MAC em geral estão mais dispostos a
pagar por eventuais serviços. Além disso, existe apenas uma plataforma MAC.
Enquanto no Linux temos várias distribuições. Vai na página do Skipe. Na
página de downloads para o Linux temos umas 6 opções diferentes.

Ou seja, é muito menos trabalho lançar uma versão para MAC que para Linux.

Em 09/05/07, Geilson Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Eu não consigo entender como um programa desse tipo é lançado para Mac e
 não para Linux, acredito que o percentual de máquinas rodando Linux seja
 superior ao de máquinas rodando Mac, mas mesmo assim um grupo de
 empresas parece não ver o que está bem claro.

 Geilson

 Marcus VBP escreveu:
  Houvi dizer que vai ter uma versão para Linux sim, mas não é prioridade.
 
  Em 08/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  Essa é uma péssima notícia!
 
  Em 08/05/07, Rafael Gimenes Leite [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  Poxa vida que pena.
  Eu estava começando a pesquisar este software!
  Agora nem preciso que me convidem.
 
  On 5/8/07, Maudy Pedrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Não existe Joost para Linux. Só para Win e Mac.
  http://joost.com/download/
 
  Abs
 
  On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?
  gostaria de saber por onde começar, se é que existem experiências
 
  nessa
 
  área.
  grato
 
  --
  Eis meu diário de leitura:
 
  http://prototeorias.blogspot.com
 
  o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
  do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
  nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
  interpretações.
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 
 
 
  --
  www.thebytes.com.br - www.ubuntudicas.blogspot.com -
 
  www.jedimania.com.br
 
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 
 
 
  --
  /* Rafael  Gimenes Leite
  Analista Desenvolvedor.
  linux user #404839
  http://www.rafaelgimenes.net
  http://vidacurta.net
  Em um mundo sem paredes, quem precisa de janelas?
  */
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 
 
 
  --
  Eis meu diário de leitura:
 
  http://prototeorias.blogspot.com
 
  o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
  do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
  nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
  interpretações.
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 
 
 
 
 
 



 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br




-- 
[]'s
Marcus VBP
http://www.marcusvbp.com.br
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?

2007-05-09 Thread Olival Júnior
Na boa? O Joost tenta perpetuar o modelo da TV atual em um novo meio. 
Inclusive, o atrativo do pessoal do Joost para os produtores de 
conteúdo é q sua plataforma seria à prova de pirataria, pois o 
streamings seriam bloqueados para cópia. Ou seja, aquilo q vc faz com 
seu velho videocassete desde os anos 80 (gravar o conteúdo q lhe 
interessa para assistir onde quiser e qdo bem entender) agora é proibido.

Tente o Democracy Player (q, por sinal, tbém é Software Livre) e seja 
feliz: http://www.getdemocracy.com/

[ ]s,

olival.junior

Marcus VBP escreveu:
 Acredito que seja que os usuários do MAC em geral estão mais dispostos a
 pagar por eventuais serviços. Além disso, existe apenas uma plataforma MAC.
 Enquanto no Linux temos várias distribuições. Vai na página do Skipe. Na
 página de downloads para o Linux temos umas 6 opções diferentes.

 Ou seja, é muito menos trabalho lançar uma versão para MAC que para Linux.

 Em 09/05/07, Geilson Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
   
 Eu não consigo entender como um programa desse tipo é lançado para Mac e
 não para Linux, acredito que o percentual de máquinas rodando Linux seja
 superior ao de máquinas rodando Mac, mas mesmo assim um grupo de
 empresas parece não ver o que está bem claro.

 Geilson

 Marcus VBP escreveu:
 
 Houvi dizer que vai ter uma versão para Linux sim, mas não é prioridade.

 Em 08/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

   
 Essa é uma péssima notícia!

 Em 08/05/07, Rafael Gimenes Leite [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 
 Poxa vida que pena.
 Eu estava começando a pesquisar este software!
 Agora nem preciso que me convidem.

 On 5/8/07, Maudy Pedrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Não existe Joost para Linux. Só para Win e Mac.
 http://joost.com/download/

 Abs

 On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?
 gostaria de saber por onde começar, se é que existem experiências

   
 nessa

   
 área.
 grato

 --
 Eis meu diário de leitura:

 http://prototeorias.blogspot.com

 o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
 do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
 nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
 interpretações.
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


   
 --
 www.thebytes.com.br - www.ubuntudicas.blogspot.com -

 
 www.jedimania.com.br

   
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


 
 --
 /* Rafael  Gimenes Leite
 Analista Desenvolvedor.
 linux user #404839
 http://www.rafaelgimenes.net
 http://vidacurta.net
 Em um mundo sem paredes, quem precisa de janelas?
 */
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


   
 --
 Eis meu diário de leitura:

 http://prototeorias.blogspot.com

 o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
 do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
 nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
 interpretações.
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


 


   

 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br

 



   

-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?

2007-05-09 Thread José Geraldo Gouvêa
Marcus VBP escreveu:
 Acredito que seja que os usuários do MAC em geral estão mais dispostos a
 pagar por eventuais serviços. Além disso, existe apenas uma plataforma MAC.
 Enquanto no Linux temos várias distribuições. Vai na página do Skipe. Na
 página de downloads para o Linux temos umas 6 opções diferentes.

 Ou seja, é muito menos trabalho lançar uma versão para MAC que para Linux.

 Em 09/05/07, Geilson Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
   
 Eu não consigo entender como um programa desse tipo é lançado para Mac e
 não para Linux, acredito que o percentual de máquinas rodando Linux seja
 superior ao de máquinas rodando Mac, mas mesmo assim um grupo de
 empresas parece não ver o que está bem claro.
Além do mais, não é verdade que haja mais computadores rodando Linux que 
Mac. As estatísticas mais recentes do Google dao conta de 93% para 
sistemas Microsoft (como um todo), 5.5% para Mac e o resto para o 
resto. Alguém tem dados mais confiáveis ou detalhados (eu esqueci a 
referência) ?


José Geraldo

-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?

2007-05-09 Thread [o] Follmann
2 idéias: a) Desenvolver pra Linux a comunidade ajuda. A questão é a pressão
- mesmo implícita - pra ser sob a GPL, pode ser que a empresa não queira. b)
Nessa pesquisa sobre dominância de um sistema ou outro, eles levam em conta
os dual-booters ? E os poucos que usam 3 sistemas, também ? Ou só perguntam
qual é o principal ?
_
[o]   Dirceu Luís Follmann
MSN: dlfollmann [at] gmail [dot] com
http://daquidafronteira.wordpress.com

Em 09/05/07, José Geraldo Gouvêa [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Marcus VBP escreveu:
  Acredito que seja que os usuários do MAC em geral estão mais dispostos a
  pagar por eventuais serviços. Além disso, existe apenas uma plataforma
 MAC.
  Enquanto no Linux temos várias distribuições. Vai na página do Skipe. Na
  página de downloads para o Linux temos umas 6 opções diferentes.
 
  Ou seja, é muito menos trabalho lançar uma versão para MAC que para
 Linux.
 
  Em 09/05/07, Geilson Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  Eu não consigo entender como um programa desse tipo é lançado para Mac
 e
  não para Linux, acredito que o percentual de máquinas rodando Linux
 seja
  superior ao de máquinas rodando Mac, mas mesmo assim um grupo de
  empresas parece não ver o que está bem claro.
 Além do mais, não é verdade que haja mais computadores rodando Linux que
 Mac. As estatísticas mais recentes do Google dao conta de 93% para
 sistemas Microsoft (como um todo), 5.5% para Mac e o resto para o
 resto. Alguém tem dados mais confiáveis ou detalhados (eu esqueci a
 referência) ?


 José Geraldo

 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br

-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?

2007-05-09 Thread Marcus VBP
Lembrando que existe também como opção o gsoapcast (ou algo parecido)

Em 09/05/07, Olival Júnior [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Na boa? O Joost tenta perpetuar o modelo da TV atual em um novo meio.
 Inclusive, o atrativo do pessoal do Joost para os produtores de
 conteúdo é q sua plataforma seria à prova de pirataria, pois o
 streamings seriam bloqueados para cópia. Ou seja, aquilo q vc faz com
 seu velho videocassete desde os anos 80 (gravar o conteúdo q lhe
 interessa para assistir onde quiser e qdo bem entender) agora é proibido.

 Tente o Democracy Player (q, por sinal, tbém é Software Livre) e seja
 feliz: http://www.getdemocracy.com/

 [ ]s,

 olival.junior

 Marcus VBP escreveu:
  Acredito que seja que os usuários do MAC em geral estão mais dispostos a
  pagar por eventuais serviços. Além disso, existe apenas uma plataforma
 MAC.
  Enquanto no Linux temos várias distribuições. Vai na página do Skipe. Na
  página de downloads para o Linux temos umas 6 opções diferentes.
 
  Ou seja, é muito menos trabalho lançar uma versão para MAC que para
 Linux.
 
  Em 09/05/07, Geilson Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  Eu não consigo entender como um programa desse tipo é lançado para Mac
 e
  não para Linux, acredito que o percentual de máquinas rodando Linux
 seja
  superior ao de máquinas rodando Mac, mas mesmo assim um grupo de
  empresas parece não ver o que está bem claro.
 
  Geilson
 
  Marcus VBP escreveu:
 
  Houvi dizer que vai ter uma versão para Linux sim, mas não é
 prioridade.
 
  Em 08/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 escreveu:
 
 
  Essa é uma péssima notícia!
 
  Em 08/05/07, Rafael Gimenes Leite [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
 
  Poxa vida que pena.
  Eu estava começando a pesquisar este software!
  Agora nem preciso que me convidem.
 
  On 5/8/07, Maudy Pedrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Não existe Joost para Linux. Só para Win e Mac.
  http://joost.com/download/
 
  Abs
 
  On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?
  gostaria de saber por onde começar, se é que existem experiências
 
 
  nessa
 
 
  área.
  grato
 
  --
  Eis meu diário de leitura:
 
  http://prototeorias.blogspot.com
 
  o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
  do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
  nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
  interpretações.
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 
 
 
  --
  www.thebytes.com.br - www.ubuntudicas.blogspot.com -
 
 
  www.jedimania.com.br
 
 
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 
 
 
  --
  /* Rafael  Gimenes Leite
  Analista Desenvolvedor.
  linux user #404839
  http://www.rafaelgimenes.net
  http://vidacurta.net
  Em um mundo sem paredes, quem precisa de janelas?
  */
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 
 
 
  --
  Eis meu diário de leitura:
 
  http://prototeorias.blogspot.com
 
  o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
  do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
  nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
  interpretações.
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 
 
 
 
 
 

 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br




-- 
[]'s
Marcus VBP
http://www.marcusvbp.com.br
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


[Ubuntu-BR] Evince melhorar aparência do tex to

2007-05-09 Thread [o] Follmann
Pessoal, estava eu começando a ler um pdf no evince, quando reparei que a
qualidade do texto estava muito baixa para leitura (falo da aparência,
claro). Por curiosidade, abri o mesmo arquivo no Adobe Reader, e ficou
perfeitamente legível.

Alguém sabe como corrigir isso, ou melhorar isso no evince ?

É um documento complexo, com imagens, fontes diferentes, etc.

Desde já vos agradeço.

_
[o]   Dirceu Luís Follmann
MSN: dlfollmann [at] gmail [dot] com
http://daquidafronteira.wordpress.com
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?

2007-05-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
esse gpsopcast aqui não funfou de jeito nenhum.


Em 09/05/07, Marcus VBP [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Lembrando que existe também como opção o gsoapcast (ou algo parecido)

 Em 09/05/07, Olival Júnior [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  Na boa? O Joost tenta perpetuar o modelo da TV atual em um novo meio.
  Inclusive, o atrativo do pessoal do Joost para os produtores de
  conteúdo é q sua plataforma seria à prova de pirataria, pois o
  streamings seriam bloqueados para cópia. Ou seja, aquilo q vc faz com
  seu velho videocassete desde os anos 80 (gravar o conteúdo q lhe
  interessa para assistir onde quiser e qdo bem entender) agora é
 proibido.
 
  Tente o Democracy Player (q, por sinal, tbém é Software Livre) e seja
  feliz: http://www.getdemocracy.com/
 
  [ ]s,
 
  olival.junior
 
  Marcus VBP escreveu:
   Acredito que seja que os usuários do MAC em geral estão mais dispostos
 a
   pagar por eventuais serviços. Além disso, existe apenas uma plataforma
  MAC.
   Enquanto no Linux temos várias distribuições. Vai na página do Skipe.
 Na
   página de downloads para o Linux temos umas 6 opções diferentes.
  
   Ou seja, é muito menos trabalho lançar uma versão para MAC que para
  Linux.
  
   Em 09/05/07, Geilson Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
  
   Eu não consigo entender como um programa desse tipo é lançado para
 Mac
  e
   não para Linux, acredito que o percentual de máquinas rodando Linux
  seja
   superior ao de máquinas rodando Mac, mas mesmo assim um grupo de
   empresas parece não ver o que está bem claro.
  
   Geilson
  
   Marcus VBP escreveu:
  
   Houvi dizer que vai ter uma versão para Linux sim, mas não é
  prioridade.
  
   Em 08/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  escreveu:
  
  
   Essa é uma péssima notícia!
  
   Em 08/05/07, Rafael Gimenes Leite [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
  
  
   Poxa vida que pena.
   Eu estava começando a pesquisar este software!
   Agora nem preciso que me convidem.
  
   On 5/8/07, Maudy Pedrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   Não existe Joost para Linux. Só para Win e Mac.
   http://joost.com/download/
  
   Abs
  
   On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
  
   alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?
   gostaria de saber por onde começar, se é que existem
 experiências
  
  
   nessa
  
  
   área.
   grato
  
   --
   Eis meu diário de leitura:
  
   http://prototeorias.blogspot.com
  
   o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
   do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
   nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
   interpretações.
   --
   Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
   http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
   ubuntu-br mailing list
   ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
   https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
  
  
  
   --
   www.thebytes.com.br - www.ubuntudicas.blogspot.com -
  
  
   www.jedimania.com.br
  
  
   --
   Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
   http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
   ubuntu-br mailing list
   ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
   https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
  
  
  
   --
   /* Rafael  Gimenes Leite
   Analista Desenvolvedor.
   linux user #404839
   http://www.rafaelgimenes.net
   http://vidacurta.net
   Em um mundo sem paredes, quem precisa de janelas?
   */
   --
   Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
   http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
   ubuntu-br mailing list
   ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
   https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
  
  
  
   --
   Eis meu diário de leitura:
  
   http://prototeorias.blogspot.com
  
   o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
   do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
   nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
   interpretações.
   --
   Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
   http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
   ubuntu-br mailing list
   ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
   https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   --
   Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
   http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
   ubuntu-br mailing list
   ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
   https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 



 --
 []'s
 Marcus VBP
 http://www.marcusvbp.com.br
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br




-- 
Eis meu diário de leitura:

http://prototeorias.blogspot.com

o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
interpretações.
-- 

[Ubuntu-BR] Como faço para trocar o GDM por KDM ?

2007-05-09 Thread Reginaldo Radel
Uso o Kubuntu 7.04 como servidor de LTSP.
Alguém sabe como alterar p/ que nas estações o gerenciador de login seja o KDM 
e não o GDM?

__
Reginaldo Radel 
COPIE, Seja LIVRE, Use o Software GNU/LINUX
Podemos escolher o que semear, mas somos
 obrigados a colher aquilo que plantamos.

-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?

2007-05-09 Thread [o] Follmann
Aqui precariamente. Não sei se o que falta é conexão boa (a minha é de
256kbps) ou se é configuração ou se são os canais, mesmo, que por dependerem
também dos outros usuários, não tem 'peers' suficientes. De todo jeito,
achei a interface ainda confusa.

Eu instalei seguindo este tutorial (mas a parte de criar o ícone no desktop
não funcionou): http://www.guiadohardware.net/dicas/sopcast-tv-linux.html
_
[o]   Dirceu Luís Follmann
MSN: dlfollmann [at] gmail [dot] com
http://daquidafronteira.wordpress.com

Em 09/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 esse gpsopcast aqui não funfou de jeito nenhum.


 Em 09/05/07, Marcus VBP [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  Lembrando que existe também como opção o gsoapcast (ou algo parecido)
 
  Em 09/05/07, Olival Júnior [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
  
   Na boa? O Joost tenta perpetuar o modelo da TV atual em um novo meio.
   Inclusive, o atrativo do pessoal do Joost para os produtores de
   conteúdo é q sua plataforma seria à prova de pirataria, pois o
   streamings seriam bloqueados para cópia. Ou seja, aquilo q vc faz com
   seu velho videocassete desde os anos 80 (gravar o conteúdo q lhe
   interessa para assistir onde quiser e qdo bem entender) agora é
  proibido.
  
   Tente o Democracy Player (q, por sinal, tbém é Software Livre) e seja
   feliz: http://www.getdemocracy.com/
  
   [ ]s,
  
   olival.junior
  
   Marcus VBP escreveu:
Acredito que seja que os usuários do MAC em geral estão mais
 dispostos
  a
pagar por eventuais serviços. Além disso, existe apenas uma
 plataforma
   MAC.
Enquanto no Linux temos várias distribuições. Vai na página do
 Skipe.
  Na
página de downloads para o Linux temos umas 6 opções diferentes.
   
Ou seja, é muito menos trabalho lançar uma versão para MAC que para
   Linux.
   
Em 09/05/07, Geilson Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
   
Eu não consigo entender como um programa desse tipo é lançado para
  Mac
   e
não para Linux, acredito que o percentual de máquinas rodando Linux
   seja
superior ao de máquinas rodando Mac, mas mesmo assim um grupo de
empresas parece não ver o que está bem claro.
   
Geilson
   
Marcus VBP escreveu:
   
Houvi dizer que vai ter uma versão para Linux sim, mas não é
   prioridade.
   
Em 08/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   escreveu:
   
   
Essa é uma péssima notícia!
   
Em 08/05/07, Rafael Gimenes Leite [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
   
   
Poxa vida que pena.
Eu estava começando a pesquisar este software!
Agora nem preciso que me convidem.
   
On 5/8/07, Maudy Pedrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
Não existe Joost para Linux. Só para Win e Mac.
http://joost.com/download/
   
Abs
   
On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   
   
alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?
gostaria de saber por onde começar, se é que existem
  experiências
   
   
nessa
   
   
área.
grato
   
--
Eis meu diário de leitura:
   
http://prototeorias.blogspot.com
   
o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
interpretações.
--
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
   
   
   
--
www.thebytes.com.br - www.ubuntudicas.blogspot.com -
   
   
www.jedimania.com.br
   
   
--
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
   
   
   
--
/* Rafael  Gimenes Leite
Analista Desenvolvedor.
linux user #404839
http://www.rafaelgimenes.net
http://vidacurta.net
Em um mundo sem paredes, quem precisa de janelas?
*/
--
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
   
   
   
--
Eis meu diário de leitura:
   
http://prototeorias.blogspot.com
   
o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
interpretações.
--
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
--
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [Ubuntu-BR] alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?

2007-05-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
minha conexão é de 600Kbps não funciona.

Em 09/05/07, [o] Follmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Aqui precariamente. Não sei se o que falta é conexão boa (a minha é de
 256kbps) ou se é configuração ou se são os canais, mesmo, que por
 dependerem
 também dos outros usuários, não tem 'peers' suficientes. De todo jeito,
 achei a interface ainda confusa.

 Eu instalei seguindo este tutorial (mas a parte de criar o ícone no
 desktop
 não funcionou): http://www.guiadohardware.net/dicas/sopcast-tv-linux.html
 _
 [o]   Dirceu Luís Follmann
 MSN: dlfollmann [at] gmail [dot] com
 http://daquidafronteira.wordpress.com

 Em 09/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  esse gpsopcast aqui não funfou de jeito nenhum.
 
 
  Em 09/05/07, Marcus VBP [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
  
   Lembrando que existe também como opção o gsoapcast (ou algo parecido)
  
   Em 09/05/07, Olival Júnior [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
   
Na boa? O Joost tenta perpetuar o modelo da TV atual em um novo
 meio.
Inclusive, o atrativo do pessoal do Joost para os produtores de
conteúdo é q sua plataforma seria à prova de pirataria, pois o
streamings seriam bloqueados para cópia. Ou seja, aquilo q vc faz
 com
seu velho videocassete desde os anos 80 (gravar o conteúdo q lhe
interessa para assistir onde quiser e qdo bem entender) agora é
   proibido.
   
Tente o Democracy Player (q, por sinal, tbém é Software Livre) e
 seja
feliz: http://www.getdemocracy.com/
   
[ ]s,
   
olival.junior
   
Marcus VBP escreveu:
 Acredito que seja que os usuários do MAC em geral estão mais
  dispostos
   a
 pagar por eventuais serviços. Além disso, existe apenas uma
  plataforma
MAC.
 Enquanto no Linux temos várias distribuições. Vai na página do
  Skipe.
   Na
 página de downloads para o Linux temos umas 6 opções diferentes.

 Ou seja, é muito menos trabalho lançar uma versão para MAC que
 para
Linux.

 Em 09/05/07, Geilson Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Eu não consigo entender como um programa desse tipo é lançado
 para
   Mac
e
 não para Linux, acredito que o percentual de máquinas rodando
 Linux
seja
 superior ao de máquinas rodando Mac, mas mesmo assim um grupo de
 empresas parece não ver o que está bem claro.

 Geilson

 Marcus VBP escreveu:

 Houvi dizer que vai ter uma versão para Linux sim, mas não é
prioridade.

 Em 08/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escreveu:


 Essa é uma péssima notícia!

 Em 08/05/07, Rafael Gimenes Leite [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:


 Poxa vida que pena.
 Eu estava começando a pesquisar este software!
 Agora nem preciso que me convidem.

 On 5/8/07, Maudy Pedrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Não existe Joost para Linux. Só para Win e Mac.
 http://joost.com/download/

 Abs

 On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:


 alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?
 gostaria de saber por onde começar, se é que existem
   experiências


 nessa


 área.
 grato

 --
 Eis meu diário de leitura:

 http://prototeorias.blogspot.com

 o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
 do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
 nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
 interpretações.
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br



 --
 www.thebytes.com.br - www.ubuntudicas.blogspot.com -


 www.jedimania.com.br


 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br



 --
 /* Rafael  Gimenes Leite
 Analista Desenvolvedor.
 linux user #404839
 http://www.rafaelgimenes.net
 http://vidacurta.net
 Em um mundo sem paredes, quem precisa de janelas?
 */
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br



 --
 Eis meu diário de leitura:

 http://prototeorias.blogspot.com

 o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
 do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
 nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
 interpretações.
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [Ubuntu-BR] alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?

2007-05-09 Thread [o] Follmann
Aqui, quando abre a janela do player (clicando no botão de mesmo nome na
interface, e esperand um pouco), a imagem é boa, MAS
tenho a impressão que não consegue fazer buffer suficiente nunca, aí fica só
travando. A recomendação é esperar chegar a 80 ou 90%, mas com minha
conexão, depois de 5 minutos, nunca chega. Aliás, nem sei exatamente onde
ver a quantas anda o buffer. Enquanto isso, assisto streamings normais sem
problema.

_
[o]   Dirceu Luís Follmann
MSN: dlfollmann [at] gmail [dot] com
http://daquidafronteira.wordpress.com

Em 09/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 minha conexão é de 600Kbps não funciona.

 Em 09/05/07, [o] Follmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  Aqui precariamente. Não sei se o que falta é conexão boa (a minha é de
  256kbps) ou se é configuração ou se são os canais, mesmo, que por
  dependerem
  também dos outros usuários, não tem 'peers' suficientes. De todo jeito,
  achei a interface ainda confusa.
 
  Eu instalei seguindo este tutorial (mas a parte de criar o ícone no
  desktop
  não funcionou):
 http://www.guiadohardware.net/dicas/sopcast-tv-linux.html
  _
  [o]   Dirceu Luís Follmann
  MSN: dlfollmann [at] gmail [dot] com
  http://daquidafronteira.wordpress.com
 
  Em 09/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
  
   esse gpsopcast aqui não funfou de jeito nenhum.
  
  
   Em 09/05/07, Marcus VBP [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
   
Lembrando que existe também como opção o gsoapcast (ou algo
 parecido)
   
Em 09/05/07, Olival Júnior [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Na boa? O Joost tenta perpetuar o modelo da TV atual em um novo
  meio.
 Inclusive, o atrativo do pessoal do Joost para os produtores de
 conteúdo é q sua plataforma seria à prova de pirataria, pois o
 streamings seriam bloqueados para cópia. Ou seja, aquilo q vc faz
  com
 seu velho videocassete desde os anos 80 (gravar o conteúdo q lhe
 interessa para assistir onde quiser e qdo bem entender) agora é
proibido.

 Tente o Democracy Player (q, por sinal, tbém é Software Livre) e
  seja
 feliz: http://www.getdemocracy.com/

 [ ]s,

 olival.junior

 Marcus VBP escreveu:
  Acredito que seja que os usuários do MAC em geral estão mais
   dispostos
a
  pagar por eventuais serviços. Além disso, existe apenas uma
   plataforma
 MAC.
  Enquanto no Linux temos várias distribuições. Vai na página do
   Skipe.
Na
  página de downloads para o Linux temos umas 6 opções diferentes.
 
  Ou seja, é muito menos trabalho lançar uma versão para MAC que
  para
 Linux.
 
  Em 09/05/07, Geilson Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  Eu não consigo entender como um programa desse tipo é lançado
  para
Mac
 e
  não para Linux, acredito que o percentual de máquinas rodando
  Linux
 seja
  superior ao de máquinas rodando Mac, mas mesmo assim um grupo
 de
  empresas parece não ver o que está bem claro.
 
  Geilson
 
  Marcus VBP escreveu:
 
  Houvi dizer que vai ter uma versão para Linux sim, mas não é
 prioridade.
 
  Em 08/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 escreveu:
 
 
  Essa é uma péssima notícia!
 
  Em 08/05/07, Rafael Gimenes Leite [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 escreveu:
 
 
  Poxa vida que pena.
  Eu estava começando a pesquisar este software!
  Agora nem preciso que me convidem.
 
  On 5/8/07, Maudy Pedrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Não existe Joost para Linux. Só para Win e Mac.
  http://joost.com/download/
 
  Abs
 
  On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
wrote:
 
 
  alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?
  gostaria de saber por onde começar, se é que existem
experiências
 
 
  nessa
 
 
  área.
  grato
 
  --
  Eis meu diário de leitura:
 
  http://prototeorias.blogspot.com
 
  o livro do momento é Humano, Demasiado Humano,
  do Nietzsche. Se você se interessa dê uma olhada
  nos aforismas que selecionei e apresente suas
  interpretações.
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 
 
 
  --
  www.thebytes.com.br - www.ubuntudicas.blogspot.com -
 
 
  www.jedimania.com.br
 
 
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 
 
 
  --
  /* Rafael  Gimenes Leite
  Analista Desenvolvedor.
  linux user 

Re: [Ubuntu-BR] alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?

2007-05-09 Thread Alexandre Martani
Em Qua, 2007-05-09 às 11:50 -0300, [] Follmann escreveu:
 2 idéias: a) Desenvolver pra Linux a comunidade ajuda. A questão é a pressão
 - mesmo implícita - pra ser sob a GPL, pode ser que a empresa não queira. b)
 Nessa pesquisa sobre dominância de um sistema ou outro, eles levam em conta
 os dual-booters ? E os poucos que usam 3 sistemas, também ? Ou só perguntam
 qual é o principal ?

Acho que a maioria das estatísticas são feitas com base na quantidade de
visitas em algum site popular.

 _
 [o]   Dirceu Luís Follmann
 MSN: dlfollmann [at] gmail [dot] com
 http://daquidafronteira.wordpress.com
 
 Em 09/05/07, José Geraldo Gouvêa [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  Marcus VBP escreveu:
   Acredito que seja que os usuários do MAC em geral estão mais dispostos a
   pagar por eventuais serviços. Além disso, existe apenas uma plataforma
  MAC.
   Enquanto no Linux temos várias distribuições. Vai na página do Skipe. Na
   página de downloads para o Linux temos umas 6 opções diferentes.
  
   Ou seja, é muito menos trabalho lançar uma versão para MAC que para
  Linux.
  
   Em 09/05/07, Geilson Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
  
   Eu não consigo entender como um programa desse tipo é lançado para Mac
  e
   não para Linux, acredito que o percentual de máquinas rodando Linux
  seja
   superior ao de máquinas rodando Mac, mas mesmo assim um grupo de
   empresas parece não ver o que está bem claro.
  Além do mais, não é verdade que haja mais computadores rodando Linux que
  Mac. As estatísticas mais recentes do Google dao conta de 93% para
  sistemas Microsoft (como um todo), 5.5% para Mac e o resto para o
  resto. Alguém tem dados mais confiáveis ou detalhados (eu esqueci a
  referência) ?
 
 
  José Geraldo
 
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 


-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] alguem já usou joost no ubuntu?

2007-05-09 Thread João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos
On 5/9/07, Olival Júnior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tente o Democracy Player (q, por sinal, tbém é Software Livre) e seja
 feliz: http://www.getdemocracy.com/


Alguém ja conseguiu rodar o Democracy no Feisty? A versão que tá no
repositório não roda desde o beta do Feisty...
Também tentei adicionar o repositório Egdy que é fornecido pelo site oficial
do programa, mas dá erro de dependência.

Será que compilando o tar.gz funciona?

Valeu!!
-- 
João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos
Ciência da Computação
UFES
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


[Ubuntu-BR] wiki

2007-05-09 Thread Marcelo Magno
Boa tarde a todos,

Nunca instalei nenhum wiki, mas estou pensando em usar um para gerenciar
o conhecimento de um departamento de desenvolvimento.

Vocês poderiam indicar algum para feisty que funcione direitinho e que
seja de deployment simples ?

Grato pela ajuda,
Marcelo Magno

-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


[Ubuntu-BR] Alguém conhece o projeto Medibuntu ?

2007-05-09 Thread Nilo Martins
Alguém conhece o projeto Medibuntu?

Seus repositórios são confiáveis?

http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/index.php

Atenciosamente,

Nilo Martins
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Alguém conhece o projeto Medibuntu ?

2007-05-09 Thread Wagner
Eu conheço o UbuntuStudio:
http://www.ubuntustudio.com/

Inclusive instalei eles em alguns pontos de Cultura do projeto Cultura
Digital.

Em 09/05/07, Nilo Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Alguém conhece o projeto Medibuntu?

 Seus repositórios são confiáveis?

 http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/index.php

 Atenciosamente,

 Nilo Martins
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br




-- 
Wagner Santos
81 9127 9823 / 87 8807 3970

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 83709017 | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

DotLinux.Net - http://www.dotlinux.net/
Debian-PE- http://pe.debianbrasil.org/
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] como criar um usuario admin??

2007-05-09 Thread Tiago Cruz
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 15:41 -0300, Thiago Marini wrote:
 Alguem sabe como criar um usuario admin pelo terminal??

# adduser tiagocruz
# gpasswd -a tiagocruz admin

-- 
Tiago Cruz
http://everlinux.com
Linux User #282636



-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] wiki

2007-05-09 Thread João Arthur
Bom, como página pessoal
(www.dsc.ufcg.edu.br/~jarthurhttp://www.dsc.ufcg.edu.br/%7Ejarthur)
o pmwiki http://www.pmwiki.org/ me serve muito bem e a instalação é
moleza.


Mas pra gerenciamento de contas, ouvi dizer que o
dokuhttp://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki:dokuwikié muito bom...nunca
instalei, mas dizem que é fácil também.


Já para corporações, usamos aqui no lab
(www.gmf.ufcg.edu.br)http://www.gmf.ufcg.edu.brusamos o media
wiki http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki

Ele tem funcionalidade a mais que os outros não têm e que servem muito para
um ambiente de laboratório/cooporação, porém um pouco mais complicado de
instalar.


Espero ter ajudado.

On 5/9/07, Marcelo Magno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Boa tarde a todos,

 Nunca instalei nenhum wiki, mas estou pensando em usar um para gerenciar
 o conhecimento de um departamento de desenvolvimento.

 Vocês poderiam indicar algum para feisty que funcione direitinho e que
 seja de deployment simples ?

 Grato pela ajuda,
 Marcelo Magno

 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br




-- 
João Arthur Brunet Monteiro
Graduação Ciência da Computação
Grupo de Métodos Formais (GMF)
www.dsc.ufcg.edu.br/~jarthur
http://www.gmf.ufcg.edu.br/index.php/DesignWizard
UFCG-CEEI-DSC
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] como criar um usuario admin??

2007-05-09 Thread Thiago Marini
valeu!!

On 5/9/07, Tiago Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 15:41 -0300, Thiago Marini wrote:
  Alguem sabe como criar um usuario admin pelo terminal??

 # adduser tiagocruz
 # gpasswd -a tiagocruz admin

 --
 Tiago Cruz
 http://everlinux.com
 Linux User #282636



 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br

-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Alguém conhece o projeto Medibuntu ?

2007-05-09 Thread Bruno Abinader
Olá a todos,

Em 09/05/07, Nilo Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Alguém conhece o projeto Medibuntu?

 Seus repositórios são confiáveis?


Sim, conheço e utilizo seus repositórios para facilitar a instalação de
alguns pacotes que utilizo, como o Google Earth e o w32codecs. Quanto a
confiança dos mesmos, já procurei informações em forums internacionais e
nunca vi reclamações. É óbvio que alguns programas infelizmente não possuem
código fonte disponível, como é o caso do Skype, por exemplo, porém pelo
tempo que uso estes pacotes eles nunca me deram problema.

[]s!

http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/index.php

 Atenciosamente,

 Nilo Martins
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br




-- 
Bruno de Oliveira Abinader
OSMRC / INdT
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Como faço para trocar o GDM por KDM ?

2007-05-09 Thread José Geraldo Gouvêa
Reginaldo Radel escreveu:
 Uso o Kubuntu 7.04 como servidor de LTSP.
 Alguém sabe como alterar p/ que nas estações o gerenciador de login seja o 
 KDM 
 e não o GDM?
Use o BUM (Boot-Up Manager) para desselecionar o serviço GDM e 
selecionar o KDM.


José Geraldo

-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


[Ubuntu-BR] conexão discada

2007-05-09 Thread joselito Filho
Olá pessoal,

Alguém poderia me informar como configura a minha conexão discada???

Grato!
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Como faço para trocar o GDM por KDM ?

2007-05-09 Thread Zandre Bran
On 5/9/07, Reginaldo Radel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Uso o Kubuntu 7.04 como servidor de LTSP.
 Alguém sabe como alterar p/ que nas estações o gerenciador de login seja o KDM
 e não o GDM?

Altere o arquivo /etc/X11/default-display-manager

Abçs,
Zandre.

-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] wiki

2007-05-09 Thread José Geraldo Gouvêa
João Arthur escreveu:
 Bom, como página pessoal
 (www.dsc.ufcg.edu.br/~jarthurhttp://www.dsc.ufcg.edu.br/%7Ejarthur)
 o pmwiki http://www.pmwiki.org/ me serve muito bem e a instalação é
 moleza.


 Mas pra gerenciamento de contas, ouvi dizer que o
 dokuhttp://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki:dokuwikié muito bom...nunca
 instalei, mas dizem que é fácil também.


 Já para corporações, usamos aqui no lab
 (www.gmf.ufcg.edu.br)http://www.gmf.ufcg.edu.brusamos o media
 wiki http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki

 Ele tem funcionalidade a mais que os outros não têm e que servem muito para
 um ambiente de laboratório/cooporação, porém um pouco mais complicado de
 instalar.
   
Sou usuário do PmWiki (http://mundosefundos.co.nr) e posso assegurar que 
se trata de um software bastante seguro e estável, que possui muitas 
vantagens:

1 = É simples de instalar (desempacote no diretório desejado, edite um 
arquivo de configuração e pronto).
2 = Depende apenas de PHP5 em um ambiente LAMP, mas não usa base de 
dados (os arquivos são 'flat file').
3 = Possui mais de 300 extensões nas mais diversas categorias
4 = Permite a autenticação por usuário 
(www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/AuthUser)
5 = Permite o uso de senhas criptografadas
6 = Tem mais de vinte temas prontos e os temas são fáceis de fazer ou 
editar: são arquivos HTML contendo macros que expandem o cabeçalho o 
menu, o conteúdo e o rodapé em lugares à sua escolha.
7 = Há muito poucas funções no MediaWiki que o PmWiki não tenha. O 
PmWiki, por exemplo, também é capaz de entender marcação LaTeX de 
fórmulas matemáticas e pode ser configurado para gerar a documentação em 
PDF.
8 = O PmWiki tem uma ferramenta de importação de marcação HTML ou MediaWiki.
9 = Tem uma lista de usuários tão ou mais ativa que a Ubuntu-BR (só que 
em inglês) onde estão sendo continuamente debatidos os temas relevantes.
10 = É fácil fazer extensões personalizadas para o PmWiki -- basta saber 
PHP.

No site do PmWiki 
(http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/SuccessStories.html) existem centenas 
de links para sites que usam PmWiki. Observe o que tem sido feito com o 
PmWiki e veja se ele realmente é adequado só para páginas pessoais. Além 
do próprio site do PmWiki, recomendo que você veja especialmente estes:

http://www.itmission.org/
http://www.rock-ed.com/v1/
http://www.eliteforum.org/
http://www.travellersbible.org/
http://www.innovaatiot.fi/
http://kwag.net/
http://www.matrioszka.info/
http://papercut.biz/kb/


Acredite, PmWiki merece ser considerado.


José Geraldo


-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Como faço para trocar o GDM por KDM ?

2007-05-09 Thread otavio
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 21:02:33 Zandre Bran wrote:
 On 5/9/07, Reginaldo Radel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Uso o Kubuntu 7.04 como servidor de LTSP.
  Alguém sabe como alterar p/ que nas estações o gerenciador de login seja
  o KDM e não o GDM?

 Altere o arquivo /etc/X11/default-display-manager

 Abçs,
 Zandre.

digite:

 sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm

ele vai perguntar se vc quer usar o kdm ou gdm. Escolha o kdm.


[]s

Otávio



-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Aspas com echo

2007-05-09 Thread Bruno Galindro da Costa
tenta assim:

echo -e AuthName \Nagios Access\  /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf


Vlwe Daniel, funcionou perfeitamente.

;D

-- 
Bruno Galindro da Costa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Imbituba - SC
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Novo Convertido

2007-05-09 Thread Alex
 Nunca usei essa placa wireless no Linux, mas tive problema semelhante com as 
 Broadcom 43xx.
 Acho que a melhor solução nesse caso é utilizar o Ndiswrapper com o driver 
 para Windows.

Idem tente utilizar a solução do Ndiswrapper

Um fonte:
http://www.guiadohardware.net/termos/ndiswrapper Lá tem umas dicas de
como configurar wifi alem desta fonte.

Att
Alex

-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] VPN

2007-05-09 Thread Cleyton Santana de Sousa
oi Jefferson,

boa noite. nao posso ajudar .. mas sim indicar o software. Open Vpn no Grupo
debianbr dizem que ele eh facil de configurar..

abraco


-- 
Cleyton Santana de Sousa

Em 07/05/07, Jefferson Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Senhores boa tarde, meu cenário é o seguinte tenho um servidor com ubuntu
 instalado e iptables funcionando como firewall, necessitarei instalar uma
 vpn para ter acesso remoto aos meus arquivos que estão em um outro servidor
 com samba, gostaria de saber se alguém podia me ajudar com tutoriais,
 passo-a-passo, e também me informar quais os programas eu terei de instalar,
 tanto no servidor que é firewall, como no servidor que está com os arquivos
 e usa o samba para o acesso aos mesmos e na máquina cliente que fará esse
 acesso.

 Fico muito grato quem puder ajudar, pois isto é um caso de vida ou morte
 em meu emprego e todas as vezes que tentei fazer isso não obtive sucesso.

 Salve a liberdade.

 __
 Fale com seus amigos  de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger
 http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br

-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Como faço para trocar o GDM por KDM ?

2007-05-09 Thread Clóvis Alberto
Reginaldo Radel escreveu:
 Uso o Kubuntu 7.04 como servidor de LTSP.
 Alguém sabe como alterar p/ que nas estações o gerenciador de login seja o 
 KDM 
 e não o GDM?

 __
 Reginaldo Radel 
 COPIE, Seja LIVRE, Use o Software GNU/LINUX
 Podemos escolher o que semear, mas somos
  obrigados a colher aquilo que plantamos.

   



Reginaldo


Estou há tempos correndo atrás de informações sobre a montagem de um 
servidor LTSP (Pentium 4, 2,26GHz. 1GB de Ram, gravador de CD's e placa 
de rede RTL8139) com um computador que será o cliente (AMD K6-II 500MHz, 
128MB de Ram, sem HD ou Leitor de disquetes, apenas um leitor de CD's).

A conexão entre os dois se dá por um hub-switch Encore de 8 portas, onde 
está ligado meu modem DSL 500G-II.

Por acaso você teria a documentação dos passos necessários para fazer 
essa ligação cliente-terminal? Algumas vezes já aventei essa dúvida na 
lista, mas sempre me apontaram tutoriais parciais, ou que não resolviam 
meu problema por serem muito vagos, e eu não tenho experiência neste 
tipo de instalação.

Atualmente estou com o Edgy Eft instalado aqui no que vai ser o 
servidor, mas pretendo passá-lo para o Feisty Fawn mantendo o GDM com 
padrão, tão logo terminem as provas de faculdade de minha esposa.

Desde já agradeço qualquer ajuda


Saudações


Clóvis Alberto

-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] gmail e evol ution

2007-05-09 Thread Jesus Pereira
Sei disso, mas não coloquei e não fez falta nenhuma. O evolution busca e 
entrega a minha correspondência do gmail, sem eu indicar porta nenhuma!

duda nogueira|gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: só colocar:

servidor.meu.querido.com.br:123

no campo do servidor.

até!

On 5/7/07, Jesus Pereira  wrote:

 Ah, não me coloquei o número das portas... O thunderbird tem um campo pra
 isso, mas o evolution não. Aí, quando configurei, não indiquei que portas
 eram. Mas envio e recebo e-mail normalmente.

 Jesus Pereira  escreveu: Barbada!

 Primeiro vai nas configurações web do gmail e ativa a opção para usar pop.

 Depois, no evolution, vai em Editar  Preferências  Adicionar

 Em Nome - digita um nome para a conta;
 Em Nome completo - Nome com que deseja se identificar
 Em endereço de e-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Selecione - se quiser - tornar esta conta padrão

 Em Responder a - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ou outro e-mail pelo qual queres
 receber as respostas)
 Em Empresa - Tua Empresa (ou o Teu Nome, ou qualquer Nome que queiras
 usar)

 Avançar

 Tipo de Servidor: POP

 Servidor: pop.gmail.com
 Nome de usuário: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Usar conexão segura: Criptografado (SSL)

 Tipo de Autenticação:
 SenhaVerificar tipos suportados

 Selecionar - se quiser - Lembrar Senha (deixa de exigir digitação de senha
 a cada acesso - inseguro)


 Opções de recepçãp

 Escolha a gosto - selecionei as duas primeiras (verificar automaticamente
 ... a cada x minutos  - e deixar mensagens no servidor). Não sei o efeito
 de  desativar suporte...


 Enviando mensagem

 Tipo de servidor: SMTP

 Servidor:smtp.gmail.com

 Selecionar: Servidor requer autenticação

 Usar conexão segura: Criptografado (SSL)

 Autenticação: Tipo: PLAIN  Verificar tipos suportados

 Nome de usuario: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Selecionar   Lembrar senha (se quiser - inseguro)

 OK


 Pronto. Já está apto a receber e enviar e-mails do gmail pelo evolution


 - onde estateunome é o teunomedeusuário...

 Configurações adicionais, a gosto (Padrões e Segurança)

 milton dos santos peres  escreveu: Olá para todos!
 Eu gostaria de configurar o Evolution para usar com o gmail!
 Quem pode me ajudar?

 Milton Peres

 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br




 __
 Fale com seus amigos  de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger
 http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br




 __
 Fale com seus amigos  de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger
 http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/
 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br




-- 
Duda Nogueira
Tecnologia e WEB
http://dudanogueira.com.br
-
| Linux user #366328
EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SKYPE: dudanogueirabr
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br




 __
Fale com seus amigos  de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger 
http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/ 
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


[Ubuntu-BR] Serviço nrpe_nt não inicia

2007-05-09 Thread Bruno Galindro da Costa
Estou tentando monitorar uma máquina Windows XP SP2 com o nagios. Procurei
na internet e achei este tutorial:
http://www.secforum.com.br/print.php?sid=2564. Segui todos os passos para
instalar o nrpe_nt no XP mas o serviço do nrpe_nt não inicia de jeito
nenhum. Já testei em mais de uma máquina e não deu certo. O erro que aparece
é o seguinte:

*Não foi possível iniciar o serviço Nagios Remote Plugin Executor for NT/W2K
em Computador local.*
*Erro 10049: O endereço solicitado não é válido no contexto.*

Bom, pode até ser burrice minha, mas eu estou tentando iniciar este serviço
num computador em uma rede local, onde o servidor desta rede que possui o
nagios ainda não tem a configuração do nrpe realizada nele.

Porém, de acordo com a cronologia do tutorial que segui e de outros, o
serviço pode ser inicializado no windows XP antes de fazer a configuração do
nrpe no servidor.

Alguém já enfrentou um problema parecido e pode me ajudar?

PS.: Sei que esta é uma lista para usuários Linux, até peço desculpas aos
admins por fazer perguntas sobre o windows xp, mas eu não vejo outra solução
a não ser perguntar pra comunidade:

-- 
Bruno Galindro da Costa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(48)8826-3430
(48)3255-2671
Imbituba - SC
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Visualizar videos em sites.

2007-05-09 Thread Felipe Ferreira - LaNCeloT_RW
Washington,

eu instalei usando o Automatix2 o browser SwiftFox e os plugins para ele
(todos) ... assisto o Pânico da Jovem Pan todo os dias na hora do almoço sem
problemas... e o video do Pânico eh fornecido pelo Terra (ao vivo).

Fica a dica...

Felipe Ferreira
= www.piromaniacos.com
= www.odeiowindows.cjb.net
= www.megaclipes.cjb.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: fbhz85

On 5/8/07, Washington Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Olá a todos,

Instalei o plugin do firefox e no site do globo.com já consigo ver
 os videos mas no terra simplesmente não acontece nada, fica em uma
 tela estática.

 Grato a todos que me ajudaram até o momento.

 Washington



 Em 08/05/07, Luiz Fernando C Camargo[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
  Thiago Athayde Viana - Câmara Municipal de Cachoeiro de Itapemirim
 wrote:
 
   Manda aí um link do terra e outro do globo.com pra que eu tente
   assisti-lo aqui, porque aparentemente não tenho problemas em ver.
   No entanto, quando eu acesso o portal da globo.com o portal me diz que
   meu computador não possui as configurações mínimas requeridas para
   reproduzir o vídeo, o que eu ignoro e mando continuar e assisto o
 vídeo
   normalmente.
  
   []'s
   Thiago Athayde Viana
 
  Vídeos da Glogo.com também assisto sem problemas, a dificuldade
  é com vídeos do Terra. Veja se consegue passar dessa barreira:
 
  http://tv.terra.com.br/
 
  ou assistir um vídeo desses
 
  http://terratv.terra.com.br/home.aspx?channel=100play=1plid=104099
 
  Imagem estática não vale, aqui também aparece às vezes
  dependendo do navegador.
 
  Abraços, Luiz Fernando
 
 
  --
  Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
  ubuntu-br mailing list
  ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
 

 --
 Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
 http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
 ubuntu-br mailing list
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br




--
-- 
Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português?
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui  -
ubuntu-br mailing list
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br


Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Commercial

2007-05-09 Thread Corey Burger
On 5/7/07, Remo Quintino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all!

 I'm writing for the Ubuntu Italian Promoters (sort
 of Marketing Team but Italy-centric), to talk with
 you about the possibility to create a commercial about
 and for Ubuntu.

 An Ubuntu Italian user has expressed his will to
 create one, both in English and Italian. We've seen
 his previous work, and they are very professional. You
 can take a look at them here:
 http://www.undermybed.it/web/works/video/

 As it will be a tough task to realize, we would like
 to know your opinion about this and what could be the
 best way to spread the voice, and of course the video,
 and know if Canonical would be interested in something
 like this and the way we could collaborate.

 The work would be licensed under a Creative Commons
 license, so it will be free.

 Ciao!

 PS: please CC Milo, as he is not subscribed to this
 list. Thanks.

Remo,

A commercial would be very cool. We could include it by default on the
ubuntu CD, given it would be CC (you need to make certain it is not
-nd and -nc). What sort of ideas did you have about specifics of the
commercial?

Cheers,

Corey

-- 
ubuntu-marketing mailing list
ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing


Re: [ubuntu-marketing] fullcircle - issue #1 [update]

2007-05-09 Thread Boyan Djumakov
The PDF is up and running. Just enter the entire link (with spaces).
http://www.ronnietucker.co.uk/issue1%20contributors%20preview.pdf.

Boyan.

-- 
ubuntu-marketing mailing list
ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing


Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Live Invite

2007-05-09 Thread Martin Albisetti
On 5/9/07, Gerry Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BTW I am meeting with Jono Bacon next week who intends to tell me all
 about you guys and the work been done. I am totally open though any time
 though to have an IRC chat or con call to ascertain what, say the top 10
 things you'd like to see me/canonical do to help  you guys and also
 share what your more strategic thoughts are on where ubuntu needs to go
 next .

Maybe it's about time we have another Marketing Team to have more
polished idea on what to present to Gerry?

Anyway, I'm happy to see such great predisposition  :D


Martin

-- 
ubuntu-marketing mailing list
ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing


Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Live Invite

2007-05-09 Thread Jenda Vancura
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Martin Albisetti wrote:
 On 5/9/07, Gerry Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 BTW I am meeting with Jono Bacon next week who intends to tell me all
 about you guys and the work been done. I am totally open though any time
 though to have an IRC chat or con call to ascertain what, say the top 10
 things you'd like to see me/canonical do to help  you guys and also
 share what your more strategic thoughts are on where ubuntu needs to go
 next .
 
 Maybe it's about time we have another Marketing Team to have more
 polished idea on what to present to Gerry?
 
 Anyway, I'm happy to see such great predisposition  :D
 
 
 Martin
 

In accordance to what you mentioned on IRC, I suppose you meant a
Marketing Team meeting ツ

A meeting would be great... and the gap since the last one
would also tend to suggest it ;)
Martin, would you take charge of it?
I personally won't have much time these coming weeks, let alone
brain-capacity. I'll be happy enough if I can attend the meeting.

Thanks, and looking forward to it,

- --
++
¦ Jenda Vančura   _  Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign  ¦
¦ GnuPG: 519D056A( ) http://www.asciiribbon.org  ¦
¦ Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  X  Against HTML e-mail ¦
¦ Email/Paypal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Against proprietary attachments ¦
++

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFGQorpkfxlW1GdBWoRAg/OAKC/1fhV733qlXHdTlnI/3ZzwNkhzQCeKdM1
tq7agf9i1ymvjwQTxOnsN+U=
=WV9g
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
ubuntu-marketing mailing list
ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing


Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fiscaal statuut

2007-05-09 Thread wannes
Op 08-05-07 heeft Kevin Elaerts[EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende
geschreven:
 
   Met een VF heb je geen zekerheden, maar wel de kans dat ze je komen
   leegplukken als je over de fles gaat.
 
  Dat is enkel een probleem als je schulden maakt *als FV*.
 
 Ja maar het is dat je het weet, VZW bied in dat opzicht meer zekerheid.
 BTW de voetbalploeg was een case studie, die ik had voor het vak
 economisch recht.

Het lijkt mij overbodig om een naar een VZW-strcutuur over te gaan *om
die reden*. We maken immers geen schulden of gaan geen verbintenissen
aan ...
(zonder heel de duscussie opnieuw te willen voeren)

-- 
wannes
http://www.ubuntu-be.org/

-- 
ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com

You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be


запуск приложений по ssh

2007-05-09 Thread Gusakov Nikita
Здравствуйте,подскажите наиболее правильный способ запуска
долгосрочных заданий по  ssh. Проблема собственно в том, что при
закрытии сеанса ssh задание тоже завершается... Как это правильно
победить?


-- 
С уважением,
 Gusakov  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-- 
ubuntu-ru mailing list
ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru


Re: запуск при ложений по ssh

2007-05-09 Thread Anton Bobov
man nohup

09.05.07, Gusakov Nikita[EMAIL PROTECTED] написал(а):
 Здравствуйте,подскажите наиболее правильный способ запуска
 долгосрочных заданий по  ssh. Проблема собственно в том, что при
 закрытии сеанса ssh задание тоже завершается... Как это правильно
 победить?


 --
 С уважением,
  Gusakov  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 --
 ubuntu-ru mailing list
 ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru

-- 
ubuntu-ru mailing list
ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru


Re: запуск приложений по ssh

2007-05-09 Thread Dmitry Mityugov
On 5/9/07, Gusakov Nikita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Здравствуйте,подскажите наиболее правильный способ запуска
 долгосрочных заданий по  ssh. Проблема собственно в том, что при
 закрытии сеанса ssh задание тоже завершается... Как это правильно
 победить?

Использовать screen?

-- 
Dmitry Mityugov, St. Petersburg, Russia
I ignore all messages with confidentiality statements

We live less by imagination than despite it - Rockwell Kent, N by E
-- 
ubuntu-ru mailing list
ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru


RE: xfce и локаль

2007-05-09 Thread Artūrs Jansons
Столкнулся с проблемой: меню настройки в
xfce выглядит по-разному в
зависимости от локали. Причём, некоторых
настроек при русской локали
вообще нет.
Perevod raznyj ili otsutstvuet. Nuzhno ispravljatj v ruchnuju v fajlah
/usr/share/applications/[application].desktop tegi na katigorii.
-- 
ubuntu-ru mailing list
ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru


RE: глюк evolution

2007-05-09 Thread Artūrs Jansons
 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonid Kiselev
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:51 PM
To: ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: глюк evolution

 

CalDAV Eplugin starting up ...
(evolution-2.10:29701): evolution-mail-WARNING **: ignored this junk plugin:
not enabled or we have already loaded one 
kalendarj uzhe byl zapushen, vozmozhno v processah eshe visit Evolution.

-- 
ubuntu-ru mailing list
ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru


RE: Проблемы с apache

2007-05-09 Thread Artūrs Jansons
Ili Skype!



-- 
ubuntu-ru mailing list
ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru


Как в GNOME отключить toolti ps

2007-05-09 Thread Dmitry Schigolev
Хочу отключить tooltips для нижней панели в гноме. Но что-то не нашел 
как. Есть ключик /apps/panel/global/tooltips_enabled он отключает как 
раз то что надо, но для верхней панели. А хочется для нижней выключить. 
Поясню для чего мне это надо. Использую Beryl и там есть очень приятная 
фишка показывания миниатюр окон, когда наводишь мышку на панель. Но все 
портят всплывающие гномовские tooltips.

-- 
wbr. Dmitry Schigolev


-- 
ubuntu-ru mailing list
ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru


Re: запуск приложений по ssh

2007-05-09 Thread Munko O. Bazarzhapov
man screen

2007/5/9, Dmitry Mityugov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 5/9/07, Gusakov Nikita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Здравствуйте,подскажите наиболее правильный способ запуска
  долгосрочных заданий по  ssh. Проблема собственно в том, что при
  закрытии сеанса ssh задание тоже завершается... Как это правильно
  победить?

 Использовать screen?

 --
 Dmitry Mityugov, St. Petersburg, Russia
 I ignore all messages with confidentiality statements

 We live less by imagination than despite it - Rockwell Kent, N by E
 --
 ubuntu-ru mailing list
 ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru



-- 
Мунко О. Базаржапов
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ UIN: 169-245-258
-- 
ubuntu-ru mailing list
ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru


Re: запуск приложений по ssh

2007-05-09 Thread Евсюков Денис
Здравствуйте, Gusakov Nikita!

Ответ на Ваше письмо от 09.05.2007 14:27
 Здравствуйте,подскажите наиболее правильный способ запуска
 долгосрочных заданий по  ssh. Проблема собственно в том, что при
 закрытии сеанса ssh задание тоже завершается... Как это правильно
 победить?

Я использовал nohup перед командой. Работает замечательно... При этом 
создается файл в который кидается весь вывод, который должен идти на 
экран. Если это не нужно, перенаправить вывод в /dev/null

-- 
С уважением,
  Евсюков Денис Анатольевич.

-- 
ubuntu-ru mailing list
ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru


Re: [Поиск] SSH клиент

2007-05-09 Thread Maxim Ushakov
А как насчет сваять скрипт? вот вам и консоль, вот вам и запоминание
ипов... ИМХО

30.04.07, Attid[EMAIL PROTECTED] написал(а):
 30.04.07, 01:57, Alexander Krayniuk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  В мире юникс в подобных костылях нет нужды. А Ваша задача решается с
  помощью связки двух программ: эмулятор терминала + password manager.

 ssh нервно реагирует на подключение к одному ИП на разные порты, если там 
 разные машины
 приходится удалять список известных хостов =(

 но мне пароли не надо запоминать только ИПы. и на системе без мыши =)

 --
 ubuntu-ru mailing list
 ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru

-- 
ubuntu-ru mailing list
ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru


Re: /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh not work

2007-05-09 Thread Maxim Ushakov
Там же ясно написано, что DCOP сервер не запущен, рыть в ту сторону.
Найти где он грузицца, просмотреть логи на наличия ошибки в запуске
этого самого сервера.

26.04.07, Alexander Kuprijanov[EMAIL PROTECTED] написал(а):
 Добрый День, Уважаемые

 проблема в следующем:
 есть кнопочка на буке (powerbutton), всегда очень востребованная - нажимаю,
 появляется оконце с кнопочками, выбираю кнопочку и чудо случается...

 однако теперь чуда не происходит, более того если нажать на любимую кнопочку,
 а затем обычным способом сказать перегружаемся - то бук просто
 выключается (перезагрузка не происходит)

 ===в /var/log/acpid следующее:==
 ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!
 DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
 DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
 ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!
 [Thu Apr 26 09:42:11 2007] END HANDLER MESSAGES
 [Thu Apr 26 09:42:11 2007] action exited with status 0
 [Thu Apr 26 09:42:11 2007] completed event button/power PWRF 0080
 000d
 [Thu Apr 26 09:42:11 2007] received event button/power PWRF 0080
 000e
 [Thu Apr 26 09:42:11 2007] notifying client 4495[107:114]
 [Thu Apr 26 09:42:11 2007] notifying client 5152[0:0]
 [Thu Apr 26 09:42:11 2007] executing action /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh
 [Thu Apr 26 09:42:11 2007] BEGIN HANDLER MESSAGES
 ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!
 ===

 немного о себе:
 Linux fujik 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686
 GNU/Linux

 ось: Kubuntu 7.04 (ядро генерик)
 железо: Fujitsu-Siemens p7010

 что делал...
 ковырялся в файлах /etc/hdparm.conf и /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
 хотя и не думаю что дело в них, вернул все в обратный зад, но чуда так и не
 случилось


 Что делать? куда ковырять?




 --
 Murmuregas la urso, sed danci ĝi devas
 --
 ubuntu-ru mailing list
 ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru

-- 
ubuntu-ru mailing list
ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru


Re: Tounoi des VI Nations

2007-05-09 Thread Txo
En ce mardi 08 mai 2007 à 23:25:49  Didier Eymet nous susurrait :

 Pour le reste, j'ai déjà remercié les intervenants qui, au lieu de se 
 moquer ou de s'énerver, ont compris la question (tu vois, c'était 
 possible), et ont cherché à y répondre.
 Bon, pour en finir avec cet incident (définitivement, il est temps de 
 passer à la troisième mi-temps 8-) ), je ne connaissais pas 
 MediaPlayerConnectivity, c'est une bonne alternative à la course aux 
 plugins.
 Merci donc à toi aussi.

Le moins qu'on puisse dire c'est que la légèreté n'est pas ton fort...
Ni la précision de tes questions.

-- 
-+-  Dominique Marin http://txodom.free.fr -+-
«La théorie, c'est quand on sait tout mais que rien ne fonctionne. La
pratique, c'est quand ça fonctionne mais qu'on ne sait pas pourquoi.»
-+- Albert Einstein-+-

-- 
ubuntu-fr mailing list
ubuntu-fr@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-fr


A propos d'imprimantes compatibles linux

2007-05-09 Thread Vincent Brigaudet
Bonjour

Je suis nouveau sous Ubuntu (et Linux en général) et je souhaiterais 
m'acheter une imprimante mais j'hésite entre Canon, Epson et HP ( mon 
véritable problème est la compatibilité de ces modèles avec Ubuntu ) .

Voici ce qui me conviendrait comme modèle :
* Canon PIXMA MP600, MP510
* EPSON Stylus DX6050
* HP PhotoSmart C5180, D7360, C2570

Avez vous un moyen d'être sûr de leurs compatibilités ?

N'hésitez pas à me demander plus de précision s'il vous en faut.

Cordialement
Vincent


-- 
ubuntu-fr mailing list
ubuntu-fr@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-fr


  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   >