[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Wine icon
Hello, Do you actually plan on using a Windows logo for the wine icon ? That's really, as a wine user, the last thing I'd like to see. I'd really go crazy if i had to see a Windows logo each time i open my apps menu. The glass of Wine might not be a terrible thing, but it's Wine's branding, and it's infinitely nicer than the logo of an OS i really can't bear, imho. Cordially, SD. _ Téléphonez gratuitement à tous vos proches avec Windows Live Messenger ! Téléchargez-le maintenant ! http://www.windowslive.fr/messenger/1.asp-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Wine icon
2009/3/26 Steve Dodier sidnio...@hotmail.com Hello, Do you actually plan on using a Windows logo for the wine icon ? That's really, as a wine user, the last thing I'd like to see. I'd really go crazy if i had to see a Windows logo each time i open my apps menu. The glass of Wine might not be a terrible thing, but it's Wine's branding, and it's infinitely nicer than the logo of an OS i really can't bear, imho. Cordially, SD. I agree, I don't want to see the windows logo either. I like the wine glass in the icon set I'm currently using (gnome-colors), I'm not really sure what the problem is? Tibault -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] New Wave metacity on Jaunty
Hello everybody, As I see on many screenshot the font sizes in jaunty are very small thus making the metacity look very ugly. Does anybody knows a way to fix this? Cory, Kenneth, anybody? Here's a pic with bug from UbuntuForums: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=107655 http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=107655d=1238046083 d=1238046083 Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] audio-card
I really like the card but I would remove the music note and make the card a little bigger. Anyway, great work. -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org thank's. but i think if i remove de music note, de user don't understand the icon. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Wine icon
2009/3/26 Tibault Damman tibault.dam...@gmail.com 2009/3/26 Steve Dodier sidnio...@hotmail.com Hello, Do you actually plan on using a Windows logo for the wine icon ? That's really, as a wine user, the last thing I'd like to see. I'd really go crazy if i had to see a Windows logo each time i open my apps menu. The glass of Wine might not be a terrible thing, but it's Wine's branding, and it's infinitely nicer than the logo of an OS i really can't bear, imho. Cordially, SD. I agree, I don't want to see the windows logo either. I like the wine glass in the icon set I'm currently using (gnome-colors), I'm not really sure what the problem is? Hold on, fellas. There has been some discussion about what icon to use there, and I've argued that something resembling the Windows icon would be best. Here is why I think so: a menu icon should make you think of what that menu will show, to ease navigation. A glass of wine only says Windows programs to somebody who is familiar with the Wine project and gets the joke. New users will have no way of knowing what that menu does without guess-and-check. So, an icon which makes them think Windows would be the better option. That being said, the fact that a few (talking 2 or 3 here) of us on the art mailing list have expressed that opinion does not come close to meaning that it's going to happen. If it did happen, it wouldn't be until Karmic Koala, and there would be plenty of time for discussion first. We haven't even seen any mockups of what the new icon might look like, and we definitely wouldn't use an actual Windows logo, since that would be way non-free. Please feel free to be a part of this discussion. Cheers, Ryan -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Wine icon
Am Donnerstag, den 26.03.2009, 10:54 +0100 schrieb Tibault Damman: 2009/3/26 Steve Dodier sidnio...@hotmail.com Hello, Do you actually plan on using a Windows logo for the wine icon ? That's really, as a wine user, the last thing I'd like to see. I'd really go crazy if i had to see a Windows logo each time i open my apps menu. The glass of Wine might not be a terrible thing, but it's Wine's branding, and it's infinitely nicer than the logo of an OS i really can't bear, imho. Cordially, SD. I agree, I don't want to see the windows logo either. I like the wine glass in the icon set I'm currently using (gnome-colors), I'm not really sure what the problem is? Tibault A windows-flag is visually better for all theme-colours (bright and dark), but Wine *is* a glass with liquid. Something else is too radikal. :) So it *must* be a glass with wine ... Hey what happens with the windows-flag ... so there are Windows-Apps inside. ;) :D Sincerely Oliver -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] audio-card
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, daniel planas armangué daniplana...@gmail.com wrote: I really like the card but I would remove the music note and make the card a little bigger. Anyway, great work. -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org thank's. but i think if i remove de music note, de user don't understand the icon. I'm not sure whether to agree. Most users didn't assemble their computers and probably couldn't pick a sound card out of a lineup. However, most users probably wouldn't be looking through their devices menu to find the sound card icon, either. If it comes down to cuteness, the music note wins because it's a cute idea. If it comes down to realism, well, the sound card doesn't actually make any sound, so the note would be gone. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] audio-card
El jue, 26-03-2009 a las 10:19 -0500, Ryan Prior escribió: I'm not sure whether to agree. Most users didn't assemble their computers and probably couldn't pick a sound card out of a lineup. However, most users probably wouldn't be looking through their devices menu to find the sound card icon, either. If it comes down to cuteness, the music note wins because it's a cute idea. If it comes down to realism, well, the sound card doesn't actually make any sound, so the note would be gone. then you are sure that I remove the note sound? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] daniel's folder (small sizes, correct)
sebastian fix shadow under folders on small sizes. i think are better than my old versions. i will remove ;) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] audio-card
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 10:19 -0500, Ryan Prior wrote: I'm not sure whether to agree. Most users didn't assemble their computers and probably couldn't pick a sound card out of a lineup. However, most users probably wouldn't be looking through their devices menu to find the sound card icon, either. If it comes down to cuteness, the music note wins because it's a cute idea. If it comes down to realism, well, the sound card doesn't actually make any sound, so the note would be gone. I think a realistic card combined with a well rendered note would be perfectly acceptable. The submission isn't far off. The flag of the note should be changed to a more traditional shape. Other possibilities would be to show a note, an iconic speaker or a sine wave as graphic printed on the board. Or to concentrate on the presence of i/o ports, but it would be tricky to make that clear. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to Categories
I like how Apple handles their windows logo. It's reminiscent of Windows without infringing on their copyright or trademarks. For example, I copied it to use for a VirtualMachine link on my desktop: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Boot+Camp+Logo+SVG?content=56439 Obviously it's not that popular ;) but I thought maybe this could be an idea starter.. :) Thanks ~Chris On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: Ryan Prior wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Oliver Scholtz 1 scholli...@yahoo.de wrote: One ask? How are the ideas for Wine? The glass wine is not really a good icon, because in 24x24 and dark themes it isn't well for seeing it. Maybe the Windows-flag would be better? Hey it's only a opinion ... :D I don't like the wine glass either, and think that something like the Windows flag would be better. Thorsten did a wonderful icon for Wubi ( http://wubi-installer.org/) so perhaps we can take inspiration from that and create an icon that says here be Windows software rather than here be a weird pun. Now while I'm not totally against dumping the WINE glass (the win logo might be fine) we have to remember this is also playing with upstream branding. Something I'm keen to try to avoid changing radically. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] daniel's folder (small sizes, correct)
Am Donnerstag, den 26.03.2009, 16:37 +0100 schrieb daniel planas armangué: sebastian fix shadow under folders on small sizes. i think are better than my old versions. i will remove ;) Folder: 48x48: right - top isn't well. 16x16: too dark outline. the right edge goes out. Battery: left - top of the battery is too bright. on the right side is a little blur-error. (128x128, 48x48, 16x16) Maybe it should be fixed for be perfectly ;) Sincerely Oliver attachment: folder3.pngattachment: battery.png-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] daniel's folder (small sizes, correct)
Oliver Scholtz 1 wrote: Folder: 48x48: right - top isn't well. That isn't enough info. I have no clue what you're talking about. Note, that alot of the 48px icons are just the 128px ones scaled down. So whatever your issue is. could be a result of that. /Also/ remember that the preview can look different that the render. ;) I'll put these changes in BZR soom and people can try them out for themselves. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Notes/Reminders to artists
Now that we have a few more people doing submissions I thought I'd take this time to give a few notes on some things I've seen and to keep in mind. * Please remove the Instructions and Palette layers from submissions. This saves filesize. * Vacuum Defs is very important. (FileVacuum Defs) It will remove alot of cruft that will also save on filesize. I had one today that went from 1.2MB234KB * Make sure you *don't* delete the plate layer. This happens from time to time and the layer is very important to rendering the icons. * Align your icons in the same spot over each plate size. Some submissions have 1 icon on the far fight then another size on the right or center. * *Don't* add additional metadata to the files. Naming objects and such. I have 1 icon giving issue atm because of this. Only change the layer name according to the path/name the icon should be. * Before submitting please make sure things are on their proper layers and the plate layer is hidden. In the end, you should only have 2 layers. That's about it. :) I'll be doing a major cleanup on the Submissions page soon and uploading 6 or so icons to BZR today. Have fun! -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Notes/Reminders to artists
Cory K. wrote: Now that we have a few more people doing submissions I thought I'd take this time to give a few notes on some things I've seen and to keep in mind. * Please remove the Instructions and Palette layers from submissions. This saves filesize. * Vacuum Defs is very important. (FileVacuum Defs) It will remove alot of cruft that will also save on filesize. I had one today that went from 1.2MB234KB * Make sure you *don't* delete the plate layer. This happens from time to time and the layer is very important to rendering the icons. * Align your icons in the same spot over each plate size. Some submissions have 1 icon on the far fight then another size on the right or center. * *Don't* add additional metadata to the files. Naming objects and such. I have 1 icon giving issue atm because of this. Only change the layer name according to the path/name the icon should be. * Before submitting please make sure things are on their proper layers and the plate layer is hidden. In the end, you should only have 2 layers. * If you use an icon from another source it *must* be compatible with the license used on Breathe (see wiki) and you must disclose it's origin. -Cory K -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] daniel's folder (small sizes, correct)
I uploaded what's on the wiki and they really look alot better in the set now. Much sharper feel. Also, the folder-open needs the same spit-shine. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Status -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] BZR upload March 26th 2008
There revisions apply both to trunk and the packaging branch. * ADDED: system-search audio-input-microphone battery camera-web media-floppy * UPDATED: folder user-home I feel pretty good about these. I could see another revision happening on media-floppy though as there's still some discussion about it. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to Categories
2009/3/26 Chris Tooley euxn...@gmail.com I like how Apple handles their windows logo. It's reminiscent of Windows without infringing on their copyright or trademarks. For example, I copied it to use for a VirtualMachine link on my desktop: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Boot+Camp+Logo+SVG?content=56439 Obviously it's not that popular ;) but I thought maybe this could be an idea starter.. :) Thanks ~Chris That inspired me to make this. It is not yet in the style of Breathe, but it is already better than the Wine icon IMO. attachment: winbuntu.png-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to Categories
Ryan Prior wrote: 2009/3/26 Chris Tooley euxn...@gmail.com I like how Apple handles their windows logo. It's reminiscent of Windows without infringing on their copyright or trademarks. For example, I copied it to use for a VirtualMachine link on my desktop: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Boot+Camp+Logo+SVG?content=56439 Obviously it's not that popular ;) but I thought maybe this could be an idea starter.. :) That inspired me to make this. It is not yet in the style of Breathe, but it is already better than the Wine icon IMO. Generally, I like it, but this is where my upstream branding worries come into play. Ok. I'll make a command decision here and say the icon for this *must* be a wine glass similar to the one upstream WINE ships. Regardless of what people think the transparent glass (it could always have some white tint to it or something) will look like on darker menus. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Notes/Reminders to artists
It's also suggested people download a fresh template from the wiki as I have removed some metadata that I think we could do without. The template should always be used as the start unless you are working off an existing Breathe icon. This will help when people forget to edit the icon layer to path/icon. ;) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon
Anton Kerezov wrote: I think that the folder icon is not at all as good as the rest of the icons in the set. It needs some very serious tweaks as this is the one image users see most. I'd be glad to help with it asa I get some free time. Wrote this email just to notify about it. You need to cite specifics. ;) Bets way to rub me wrong is say it's bad without giving info to back your opinion.;) There are details in here that to me are a good mix between Human and Oxygen and would need to be in any new submission. Like that kinda upward orange glow at the bottom of the folder. As well as the dots on the back of the folder. Orange outer color and light inside. This is not to say this icon is permanent, but the longer you wait with a new submission the harder it will be to turn back (as the folder is the basis for many icons) and change my mind. ;) *Many* people have liked it. Less have not. So I'm not just gonna switch it whenever someone says It's ugly. It's an uphill battle but one anyone can win given a great submission. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] daniel's folder (small sizes, correct)
2009/3/26 Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com I uploaded what's on the wiki and they really look alot better in the set now. Much sharper feel. Also, the folder-open needs the same spit-shine. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Status -Cory K. I forgot about this. I'll edit the icon later and post the files in the wiki. -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon
-Original Message- From: ubuntu-art-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-art- boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Cory K. Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:42 PM To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon You need to cite specifics. ;) Bets way to rub me wrong is say it's bad without giving info to back your opinion.;) Well it looks too blurry and the front pane looks as if it's shrinking by going up. See this old new wave screenshot. It has an experimental folder icon in it's left corner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NewWave?action=AttachFile; do=viewtarget=newwave-meta-twf.png I have made this long ago and I don't keep the sources but my idea is generally that. The colors may be further tweaked. It's an uphill battle but one anyone can win given a great submission. In that case I might join the competition ;) Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon
Anton Kerezov wrote: You need to cite specifics. ;) Bets way to rub me wrong is say it's bad without giving info to back your opinion.;) Well it looks too blurry and the front pane looks as if it's shrinking by going up. See this old new wave screenshot. It has an experimental folder icon in it's left corner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NewWave?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=newwave-meta-twf.png I have made this long ago and I don't keep the sources but my idea is generally that. The colors may be further tweaked. Yes. I would say for 1 the inside of the folder is too gray. There's also a softness here that doesn't fit Sebastien's (nor the current folder icons) crisp feel. It's an uphill battle but one anyone can win given a great submission. In that case I might join the competition ;) Bring it on! :P I gotta say though, this is really gonna be a opinion thing here. I'll try to get as wide a opinion as I can before I make a switch. Opinions from heads at Canonical will also have some weight. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to Actions
Am Donnerstag, den 26.03.2009, 21:20 +0100 schrieb Oliver Scholtz 2: Me again ... :) It's important to talk and impress some feelings looking around. :) System-shutdown ... seems to look finally totally acceptable - nice. This should work now. System-Search is not accepted by me. The microphone and differents Icons have the 45°-fall. Here I can't define the *°-fall. I will specific me more. The ocular is too small! The symbols like +, - and fit page!!! won't have place in small sizes - so this loupe will be taken as default I see a problem with it. Another critic is the old-style of it. The rest of the icons are up to date and modern ... this style don't fits with the rest. For this reason I created quickly a new one ... :o Important: I don't say it's ugly ... it's only for the reason I wrote above. ;) Conclusion: Would be nice the *community* here votes their favourite, so we have two different kinds for system-search (old-style or modern) made. Would be really nice to know how the voting is. :) my 2¢ Oliver -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon
-Original Message- From: ubuntu-art-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-art- boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Cory K. Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:10 PM To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder icon Yes. I would say for 1 the inside of the folder is too gray. There's also a softness here that doesn't fit Sebastien's (nor the current folder icons) crisp feel. I'm only talking about the degree of openness here and that the edges are in diff position than the back side. But it wasn't as blurry as the previous folder icon in the wiki I must say. Btw is that crisp enough? http://murphymac.com/slib/images/make-a-custom-leopard-folder.jpg Bring it on! :P I gotta say though, this is really gonna be a opinion thing here. I'll try to get as wide a opinion as I can before I make a switch. Opinions from heads at Canonical will also have some weight. np Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to Actions
Oliver Scholtz 1 wrote: Me again ... :) It's important to talk and impress some feelings looking around. :) System-shutdown ... seems to look finally totally acceptable - nice. This should work now. System-Search is not accepted by me. The microphone and differents Icons have the 45°-fall. Here I can't define the *°-fall. I will specific me more. The ocular is too small! The symbols like +, - and fit page!!! won't have place in small sizes - so this loupe will be taken as default I see a problem with it. Another critic is the old-style of it. The rest of the icons are up to date and modern ... this style don't fits with the rest. For this reason I created quickly a new one ... :o Important: I don't say it's ugly ... it's only for the reason I wrote above. ;) The symbols like +, - and fit page!!! won't have place in small size... This is a very valid *technical* reason you did not address before. One I had not considered. As for *style* I didn't see it as old or new. Didn't matter here. :) For me, the choice came down to the fact that your submission was blurry by comparison to the rest of the set. However, any new submissions along with real-world/in use (screenshots would work) evidence that the current loop is to small in the cases you site will be greatly appreciated. Conclusion: Would be nice the *community* here votes their favourite, so we have two different kinds for system-search (old-style or modern) made. Would be really nice to know how the voting is. :) Voting is crap. We put it up. Discuss. Move on. (but still open to discussion later) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to Categories
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: Ryan Prior wrote: 2009/3/26 Chris Tooley euxn...@gmail.com I like how Apple handles their windows logo. It's reminiscent of Windows without infringing on their copyright or trademarks. For example, I copied it to use for a VirtualMachine link on my desktop: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Boot+Camp+Logo+SVG?content=56439 Obviously it's not that popular ;) but I thought maybe this could be an idea starter.. :) That inspired me to make this. It is not yet in the style of Breathe, but it is already better than the Wine icon IMO. Generally, I like it, but this is where my upstream branding worries come into play. Ok. I'll make a command decision here and say the icon for this *must* be a wine glass similar to the one upstream WINE ships. Regardless of what people think the transparent glass (it could always have some white tint to it or something) will look like on darker menus. -Cory K. You should note companies are required by law to protect their IP, Trademarks, and other marks or they risk forfeiting them. So using the wavy Window logo would definitely be copyright infringement as would using the colors from it in the style shown above. But if you are trying to show a relationship to the Window's OS, creating a generic window icon with Ubuntu themed colors would be well within your rights because it is a parody. Microsoft doesn't hold a copyright on all icons that look like windows just like Apple doesn't have a copyright on all icons that look like apples. Icons are used to express ideas, actions, and they should be immediately recognizable. Ubuntu is marketed as a Linux distro for everyone and no one new to Linux will know that the program they want is next to the Wine glass. And when they figure it out, they'll still be wondering why it's a wine glass. They will, however, immediately recognize the window icon and relate it to the Start button and know that's where their programs are. Besides if Apple was in the wrong Microsoft wouldn't have missed the chance to roast them. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to Categories
Icons are used to express ideas, actions, and they should be immediately recognizable. Ubuntu is marketed as a Linux distro for everyone and no one new to Linux will know that the program they want is next to the Wine glass. And when they figure it out, they'll still be wondering why it's a wine glass. The issue isn't really with recognition. The issue as Cory has stated is that the Developers/designers of wine, have made the decision to represent their solution with a wine glass. We wouldn't want to redesign their logo for them. If Firefox extensions had their own category we wouldn't want to redesign the Firefox logo either, it would be some representation similar to the current Firefox branded logo. Thanks JT -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave metacity on Jaunty
Can be adjusted via gconf-editor or going System -Preferences - Appearance and selecting the Fonts tab. -Matt You can do anything you set your mind to when you have vision, determination, and and endless supply of expendable labor. No tree's were harmed during this transmission. However, a great number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced 2009/3/27 Anton Kerezov ank...@gmail.com Hello everybody, As I see on many screenshot the font sizes in jaunty are very small thus making the metacity look very ugly. Does anybody knows a way to fix this? Cory, Kenneth, anybody? Here’s a pic with bug from UbuntuForums: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=107655d=1238046083 Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] audio-card
2009/3/26 Ryan Prior ryanpr...@gmail.com On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, daniel planas armangué daniplana...@gmail.com wrote: I really like the card but I would remove the music note and make the card a little bigger. Anyway, great work. -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org thank's. but i think if i remove de music note, de user don't understand the icon. I'm not sure whether to agree. Most users didn't assemble their computers and probably couldn't pick a sound card out of a lineup. However, most users probably wouldn't be looking through their devices menu to find the sound card icon, either. If it comes down to cuteness, the music note wins because it's a cute idea. If it comes down to realism, well, the sound card doesn't actually make any sound, so the note would be gone. Icons are metaphors. By removing the music note you cripple the metaphor and now the icon looks like a generic PCI card. For all we know that could be an icon for all hardware devices, a network card, anything. The sound card makes it clear to computer savvy users, and non-technically inclined people will relate the piece of hardware and the music note and know that that must be part of the computer related to sound. So if their having sound problems, that's were they'd look. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Wine icon
I would like to see something that combines both, but without infringing on the windows trademark. Say a wine glass but instead of the red wine inside put the windows logo colors filling the glass in the same pattern? -Matthew Lye You can do anything you set your mind to when you have vision, determination, and and endless supply of expendable labor. No tree's were harmed during this transmission. However, a great number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Oliver Scholtz 1 scholli...@yahoo.dewrote: Am Donnerstag, den 26.03.2009, 10:54 +0100 schrieb Tibault Damman: 2009/3/26 Steve Dodier sidnio...@hotmail.com Hello, Do you actually plan on using a Windows logo for the wine icon ? That's really, as a wine user, the last thing I'd like to see. I'd really go crazy if i had to see a Windows logo each time i open my apps menu. The glass of Wine might not be a terrible thing, but it's Wine's branding, and it's infinitely nicer than the logo of an OS i really can't bear, imho. Cordially, SD. I agree, I don't want to see the windows logo either. I like the wine glass in the icon set I'm currently using (gnome-colors), I'm not really sure what the problem is? Tibault A windows-flag is visually better for all theme-colours (bright and dark), but Wine *is* a glass with liquid. Something else is too radikal. :) So it *must* be a glass with wine ... Hey what happens with the windows-flag ... so there are Windows-Apps inside. ;) :D Sincerely Oliver -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] audio-card
I believe if you changed the note to an eight note (such as: http://staff.fcps.net/eisaacs/Paws%20Performers/eighth%20note.jpg), it would look much, much better :D Great Work! ~Dave -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[உபுண்டு_தமிழ்] இந்தவார கூட்ட ம்
தோழர்களே, கடந்தவார கூட்டத்தில் தமிழ் மொழியாக்கம் (குனோம் மற்றும் கே.ப.சூ ), பொதுவான அதிகம் பயன்படும் கணினி கலைசொற்கள், தமிழ் சொற்பிழைதிருத்தி மற்றும் பலவற்றை விவாதித்தோம். இதன் தொடர்ச்சியாக தமிழ் மொழியாக்கம் செய்யப்பட்ட பயன்பாடுகளை ஆராய்தல், குறைகளைதல், மெருகேற்றுதல் மற்றும் பலவற்றை வரும் வாரம் ஞாயிறன்று மாலை 4 மணி முதல் 5 மணிவரை freenode.net எனும் கூடத்தில் #ubuntu-tam எனும் அறையில் விவாதிக்கலாம். இக்கூட்டத்தில் அனைவரும் தவறாது கலந்துகொள்ளவும். ந. பத்மநாதன் -- Padhu, Pollachi. Knowledge is power ! Be an Energy (Opti)mizer - Use Electricity Wiser -- Ubuntu-l10n-tam mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-tam@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-tam
Re: [உபுண்டு_தமிழ ்]ubuntu trincomalee edition (scre enshot)
படம் நல்லா இருக்கு. ஆனா தமிழ் இடைமுகத்தை காணோம்! திவா 2009/3/27 M.Mauran | மு.மயூரன் mmau...@gmail.com திருக்கோணமலையில் நடைபெறவுள்ள க்னூ/லினக்ஸ் கருத்தரங்குக்கென வடிவமைக்கப்பட்ட உபுண்டு சிறப்புப் பதிப்பின் காட்சி. -மு. மயூரன் -- Ubuntu-l10n-tam mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-tam@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-tam
Re: Ubuntu Netbook Remix beta candidate testing
Hi there, I can't find how to install the image from a USB stick. Can anyone provide me with any useful link? Thank you, Javi 2009/3/26 Brian DeLacey bdela...@gmail.com Hi Tobin, I fixed the setting for input source as you suggest and I also had to change the Sound Preferences as follows: Go into Sound Preferences and change the Audio Conferencing options: Set Sound playback to PulseAudio Sound Server Set Sound capture to PulseAudio Sound Server And, under Default Mixer Tracks option: Set the Device to HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer) Some other combinations may work as well or better, but this combination worked for me on two different Aspires. Sound Recorder and Audacity are both now able to record in the UNR beta. Thanks for your help! Brian On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Tobin Davis gruemas...@gmail.com wrote: To get audio recording with the external mic, you need to open the sound mixer panel (click on the speaker in the task bar), select the options tab, and change the input source from I-Mic to E-Mic. You may need to enable this tab in the preferences window. Tobin On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 19:16 -0400, Brian DeLacey wrote: Very nice UI, the USB install was easy to work with, and the system boots up quickly. I think this beta is a revolutionary release. I installed it on two different models of the Acer Aspire One - one has a hard disk, the other has SSD. Overall, it seems to work quite well and looks good. (I couldn't get Sound Recorder working with a plug-in microphone but recording with Audacity worked fine. I will log the test results.) I also successfully launched the live version on a Compal Jax 10 (no touch screen or wireless working, but fine with a USB mouse and wireless adapter.) Brian On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Kent Loobey k...@uoregon.edu wrote: On Wednesday 25 March 2009 08:32:54 Paul Larson wrote: There is only a short time left before 9.04 beta, but a beta candidate is available at: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/j aunty-netbook-remix-i386.img If you have a netbook, and would like to help, grab the image and a USB stick to boot from and head over to: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/2475 I love this product. I have been using it on my Lenovo S10 for about a month now (I have been keeping it up-to-date with apt-get.). So I will definitely download and test the img you specified. Thanks so much for getting this product out the door. There you will find some basic test plans for testing the install of UNR. While you are waiting on the image to download, you may wish to create an account on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com so you can log your test results. Even if you are not ready to install a beta of Jaunty UNR on your netbook, you can still help by running through the live boot test that is listed there. Please let us know about any bugs you find, and whether the installs passed or failed on your hardware. Thanks, Paul Larson -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- Tobin Davis Boob's Law: You always find something in the last place you look. -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Ubuntu Netbook Remix beta candidate testing
Hello, Please find the procedure to write the image to the USB drive in the following link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/ImageWriting After that, just boot from the USB drive and the installer will be launched. Best regards, Javier Javier Gálvez Guerrero wrote: Hi there, I can't find how to install the image from a USB stick. Can anyone provide me with any useful link? Thank you, Javi 2009/3/26 Brian DeLacey bdela...@gmail.com mailto:bdela...@gmail.com Hi Tobin, I fixed the setting for input source as you suggest and I also had to change the Sound Preferences as follows: Go into Sound Preferences and change the Audio Conferencing options: Set Sound playback to PulseAudio Sound Server Set Sound capture to PulseAudio Sound Server And, under Default Mixer Tracks option: Set the Device to HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer) Some other combinations may work as well or better, but this combination worked for me on two different Aspires. Sound Recorder and Audacity are both now able to record in the UNR beta. Thanks for your help! Brian On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Tobin Davis gruemas...@gmail.com mailto:gruemas...@gmail.com wrote: To get audio recording with the external mic, you need to open the sound mixer panel (click on the speaker in the task bar), select the options tab, and change the input source from I-Mic to E-Mic. You may need to enable this tab in the preferences window. Tobin On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 19:16 -0400, Brian DeLacey wrote: Very nice UI, the USB install was easy to work with, and the system boots up quickly. I think this beta is a revolutionary release. I installed it on two different models of the Acer Aspire One - one has a hard disk, the other has SSD. Overall, it seems to work quite well and looks good. (I couldn't get Sound Recorder working with a plug-in microphone but recording with Audacity worked fine. I will log the test results.) I also successfully launched the live version on a Compal Jax 10 (no touch screen or wireless working, but fine with a USB mouse and wireless adapter.) Brian On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Kent Loobey k...@uoregon.edu mailto:k...@uoregon.edu wrote: On Wednesday 25 March 2009 08:32:54 Paul Larson wrote: There is only a short time left before 9.04 beta, but a beta candidate is available at: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/j aunty-netbook-remix-i386.img If you have a netbook, and would like to help, grab the image and a USB stick to boot from and head over to: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/2475 I love this product. I have been using it on my Lenovo S10 for about a month now (I have been keeping it up-to-date with apt-get.). So I will definitely download and test the img you specified. Thanks so much for getting this product out the door. There you will find some basic test plans for testing the install of UNR. While you are waiting on the image to download, you may wish to create an account on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com so you can log your test results. Even if you are not ready to install a beta of Jaunty UNR on your netbook, you can still help by running through the live boot test that is listed there. Please let us know about any bugs you find, and whether the installs passed or failed on your hardware. Thanks, Paul Larson -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- Tobin Davis Boob's Law: You always find something in the last place you look. -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: [ubuntu-in] Graphic driver issue
Ubuntu (and all other Linux distros) install a bare minimum set of hardware drivers guaranteed to make it work on a range of hardware at first run - advantage of Freedom - it costs nothing to bundle an already available driver on a Linux CD (or DVD, as is becoming more frequent). I replaced an Asus mainboard having Nvidia graphics with a Gigabyte mainboard having Ati graphics - Ubuntu booted up and asked about Ati restricted drivers. Thats it! The vendor was gaping like a fish - on Windows, this would have entailed at least a low resolution login, with lots of new devices found and what not. -- Rohit V. Bhute http://rvbhute.org -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Re : Magazine / Revue
Bonjour Rémi, Moi, c'est tout le contraire. J'aime Linux Pratique parce que c'est juste assez light pour mon niveau. Le bonheur des uns fait le bonheur des autres ;-) Je la recommande pour tous ceux qui comme moi ne sont pas programmeur mais veulent se perfectionner dans l'utilisation de Linux. Bonne lecture à tous. André Cotte FireWave a écrit : Merci pour toutes vos suggestions. Je trouve Linux Pratique trop «Light» par rapport à mon niveau. Je viens de magasiner une offre de lancement de 3 numéros pour le prix d'un sur http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/ qui à l'air d'être Linux Magazine version US/Canada. Il est en anglais. Il coûte 10$, rien que ça ! Je vous tiendrais au courant de la qualité. Rémi Donald Pinet a écrit : Bonsoir André, Cette revue-là est-il en français? Quel est son coût? Je veux être au courant et bien informé... Bonne soirée, Donald *De :* André Cotte aco...@andrecotte.com *À :* Mailing list for the Quebec Team ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com *Envoyé le :* mercredi 25 mars 2009, 22 h 13 min 43 s *Objet :* Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Magazine / Revue Salut, Moi, j'aime bien Linux Pratique et ses dérivés, Hors-série et Essentiel. Je me les fais mettre de côté chez Magazine Lecto à Sainte-Foy. André Cotte FireWave a écrit : Oui je le lis déjà :D Je viens également de voir que Linux Magzine n'existait plus. Rémi Max et Nad a écrit : Bonjour, Connais-tu ce site, c'est un magasine en ligne. C'est pas mal! http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ Maxime Guénette Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:02:05 -0400 From: firew...@free.fr mailto:firew...@free.fr To: ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [Ubuntu-QC] Magazine / Revue Bonjour à tous, Y'a t'il un magazine sérieux traitant d'ubuntu / debian qui serait un intéressant sur le continent américain ? Je ne connais que les revues françaises. Ou bien alors, connaissez vous un lieu où je puisse magasiner un Linux-Magazine (en) ? Merci bien Rémi -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec Offrez un compte Flickr Pro à vos amis et à votre famille.* Allez-y!* http://www.flickr.com/gift/ -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices
Eddie Bernard wrote: Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: Surely for the average user a LTS version would be better, such as 8.04? Development versions and upgrades could raise severe antagonisms to you. Fair cop, glad you pointed that out. I need to curb my enthusiasm for always wanting to be on the bleeding edge... Eddie (apologies if this doesn't thread correctly, I messed up my mailing list subscription at first...) to offer a contrary view I would always go for the latest released version fully updated. The customer is likely to update it anyway, or think they are not getting the newest and shinyest operating system otherwise. LTS is arguably better for servers or corporate desktop rollouts (if you don't have landscape or any management tools) but for sellability to geeks and others go for new and shiny. If you can launch on April 23rd with Jauny pre-installed you might get a burst of interest. (was thinking of doing that myself) Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote: to offer a contrary view I would always go for the latest released version fully updated. The customer is likely to update it anyway, or think they are not getting the newest and shinyest operating system otherwise. LTS is arguably better for servers or corporate desktop rollouts (if you don't have landscape or any management tools) but for sellability to geeks and others go for new and shiny. If you can launch on April 23rd with Jauny pre-installed you might get a burst of interest. (was thinking of doing that myself) I completely agree with that... as you say, the customer is likely to upgrade anyway and that has the potential to break the thing... better to install the latest release, fully test it to ensure it works and then you know that they have 6 months of relatively plain sailing at least... we had that thread a week or two ago with Rowan and his networking which was caused by a supplier having to install non-standard drivers due to something (the kernel version?) in 8.04... that's after less than 12 months... 8.04 will cease to be supported (desktop) in April 2011, 9.04 will cease to be supported in October 2010... we're getting to the point here where there isn't actually a great deal of difference. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 07:45 +, Sean Miller wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote: to offer a contrary view I would always go for the latest released version fully updated. The customer is likely to update it anyway, or think they are not getting the newest and shinyest operating system otherwise. LTS is arguably better for servers or corporate desktop rollouts (if you don't have landscape or any management tools) but for sellability to geeks and others go for new and shiny. If you can launch on April 23rd with Jauny pre-installed you might get a burst of interest. (was thinking of doing that myself) I completely agree with that... as you say, the customer is likely to upgrade anyway and that has the potential to break the thing... better to install the latest release, fully test it to ensure it works and then you know that they have 6 months of relatively plain sailing at least... we had that thread a week or two ago with Rowan and his networking which was caused by a supplier having to install non-standard drivers due to something (the kernel version?) in 8.04... that's after less than 12 months... 8.04 will cease to be supported (desktop) in April 2011, 9.04 will cease to be supported in October 2010... we're getting to the point here where there isn't actually a great deal of difference. Sean Looking at the hardware, you're looking at about 110-130 plus 20 for national delivery plus a bit for you so lets say 180 a unit-ish. As for everything else Mr Pope is correct get onto Canonical for permission to use the ubuntu branding if nothing else. If I recall you have to send a sample machine in to canonical but again chase that up with them after all they know. -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices
Liam Proven wrote: 2009/3/25 Eddie Bernard edd...@gmail.com: I'm looking to offer a base unit, 2GHz dual core Celeron (E1400) with 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM, and a 150GB SATA hdd. Graphics, sound and ethernet are onboard. My only comment - apart from to agree with those who commend that you use the LTS version - would be this: I would never buy a Celeron and I tell everyone, friends and clients, to avoid them. They are nasty, crippled devices and anything with a Celery in it is probably rubbish, in my not-at-all-humble opinion. I'd rather have a cheap low-end but full-spec AMD or Via chip than a Celeron. Yes, I know it's possible to replace a Celeron with a full-spec chip, but almost nobody ever does it's almost never an economical upgrade. Actually the dual core Celerons are pretty quick. They are based on the Core 2 Duo core with just a smaller cache. To be honest I would presume that a system for about £200 would not be aimed at a power user and with some people finding that a single core Atom at 1.6GHz does the job (heck, a Duron 1400 with 512MB Ram I built the other day is fine for web browsing) then a Celeron Dual Core would probably be fine. Saying that though, I'd rather have a Core 2 based Celeron Dual Core or Pentium Dual Core rather than the older Pentium 4 Prescott based Celeron D (my kids PC has one in and while it's fine for what they want and pretty quick at 3.33GHz it's really power hungry and runs hot). I do agree about the AMD chips though, if you can get one cheap enough and a decent AM2+ board then you could at a later date drop in an AM2 (and I believe AM3) Phenom II onto the board (although for best performance you really need a board which can support the faster HT speeds of the Phenom which some of the cheaper AM2+ boards don't support). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices
2009/3/26 Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk: Looking at the hardware, you're looking at about 110-130 plus 20 for national delivery plus a bit for you so lets say 180 a unit-ish. You're in the area I'm looking at... but my raw costs are higher than 130, and I thought I'd sourced everything pretty cheaply. If you can show me how you came to that calculation I'd be very interested. I'm buying a case (450W PSU included), the E1400, a socket 775 mobo w/ onboard graphics and sound, a 160GB SATA(II) 7200rpm hdd, 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800MHz RAM, and a CD/DVD writer/rewriter. As for everything else Mr Pope is correct get onto Canonical for permission to use the ubuntu branding if nothing else. If I recall you have to send a sample machine in to canonical but again chase that up with them after all they know. I contacted them yesterday and am awaiting their response. Cheers Eddie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] sound issues - fixed
Paul Sutton wrote: Looks like i have fixed it, pcm volume was down, (what ever pcm is) PCM is Pulse Code Modulation, the main method for describing sound samples. Imagine plotting a sound wave on a chart, then every N microseconds you take a measurement of how high or low the wave is at that point. The points are called pulses and the measurements are called codes. PCM is used for all sampled sound, which these days is almost all played back sound from a PC. Depending on the implementation, MIDI GM sounds may or may not be controlled via PCM. For example, a card which implements MIDI GM sounds in software will almost certainly use PCM, whereas a card which implements MIDI GM sounds in hardware might not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_code_modulation Andrew Oakley Head of Software Development Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211460 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.uk _ Higher Education Statistics Agency Ltd (HESA) is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England at 95 Promenade Cheltenham GL50 1HZ. Registered No. 2766993. The members are Universities UK and GuildHE. Registered Charity No. 1039709. Certified to ISO 9001 and ISO 27001. HESA Services Ltd (HSL) is a wholly owned subsidiary of HESA, registered in England at the same address. Registered No. 3109219. _ This outgoing email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. _ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices
Liam Proven wrote: 2009/3/25 Matt Jones m...@mattjones.me.uk: In the past, that opinion was fairly valid. Now, the celerons are actually quite speedy little chips, espescially for an Ubuntu box that is going to run web/openoffice/music all day. As for recommending a Via over the current (Dual core) celerons, they are quite a long way behind in performance terms, and not really any cheaper. I am aware that the Via Nano is not as powerful, although it compares very well to the Intel Atom, but then, the Nano uses a *lot* less power than a Celeron so the overall running cost would be somewhat lower. Actually, tests done by Tom's Hardware Guide suggest that overall the Core 2 is a more efficient chip than the Atom. It's just a case of paring it with the right hardware. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-atom-efficiency,2069.html But still, seriously object to the pricing model of producing crippled chips with tiny L2 caches and selling them cheap. If they can make a profit on the crippled model, they could make one on selling the premium product with the full-sized cache for a lot less. There is a balance to be had, and that balancing point is called a fair price. Instead, we get cheap crippled chips - the Celerons, Pentium chips, AMD's old Durons and so on - and price-inflated professional or performance chips for power users. From what I understand these 'crippled' chips are basically the higher end chips which don't at full spec, for instance a Celeron Dual Core could well be a Core 2 Duo which a section of cache on doesn't work. Rather than just chuck the chip away they disable some of the cache and sell it on as a cheaper part. AMD do the same with the Phenom X3 (and newer Phenom core based Athlon X2's) where they disable a faulty core and sell them as a slightly cheaper chip. To be honest considering what sort of financial state AMD are in at the moment they need to do this to recoup some of the costs and pay off some of the debts. There is also the fact that if you're so inclined it is possible to overclock some of these chips (especially the Celeron Dual Core and Pentium Dual Core) to much faster speeds. I managed to get about 3GHz from my 1.8GHz Pentium Dual Core, sods law though the power saving driver in Linux clocked it back to it's original speed. This is a deliberate pricing model; in the industry, it's called something like segmented marketing and catching the low end. I call it screwing your customers. Which is one reason I prefer to deal with companies who don't play those games. The AMD tactic of selling last year's model cheap and calling it a Sempron or something was much more honest and fair, and indeed I am typing on an AMD Athlon box now. Technically last year's model would be the Athlon X2 which they are still selling as an Athlon X2, albeit fairly cheap although I'm yet to see any Sempron X2's in the shops (IIRC they do sell them in very small quantities overseas). Alas, since their 64-bit leap, AMD have no new tricks to pull and the CPU high end now belongs completely to Intel. It's a damned shame. Actually the Phenom II is starting to claw back some of the performance. Considering if you have an AM2+ board you can drop in a Phenom II X4 straight onto the board that is a pretty good performance upgrade especially compared to the new Core i7 which needs a new board and DDR3 memory (and if I'm correct they are replacing the socket on the Core i7 again later on this year). If you were to stick an AM3 CPU on an AM2+ board then you have extra future proofing as you can upgrade to an AM3 board and DDR3 memory when the prices come down. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices
Eddie Bernard wrote: 2009/3/25 Jamie Bennett ja...@linuxuk.org: Steve Cook wrote: Here's your competition http://efficientpc.co.uk/ The Wraith, same system with 2gb of ram - £232.61. Nice looking little system there. Great - I can definitely beat that and by some way. I can't tell whether this machine at this price includes a CD/DVD rewriter, I forgot to mention earlier that my machine does contain one of those. Any more? :-) Who are your end user target population? I regularly display (infopoint -information re foss and ubuntu) at a local computer fair. The attenders at the computer fairs are mostly well informed PC users and I talk to many who want to and are trying (ubuntu) initially. However they still struggle with many basic questions. But they are installing it themselves into unknown machines. Unfortunately they are not very likely to yet be users of discussion forums such as this one. Some are very keen to escape from windows. What comes to my mind is that on occasions when I have provided a pre installed machine to close friends, it is the general support and occasional detailed support from me which is of great value, more than the machine itself. These friends are not people who would be comfortable with, say, this list. But they would probably pay for suitable personal support over time. If you are selling hardware with known linux suitability then well seasoned users like myself might be certainly interested, just to know that certain hardware is ubuntu suitable and get some information and subsequent (list based?) support hopefully. However, I would be a very different type of customer to the elderly lady I met on a cruise up the norwegian coast who was set on buying an Asus eee (901 I think) after seeing them in a newspaper report, and she would probably never want to install anything herself. As you say, if you intend to compete on hardware costs alone there is a lot of competition. Less competition and more welcomed market possibly if you consider certain levels of information/support. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user. No viruses were harmed in sending this message. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices
--- On Thu, 26/3/09, Eddie Bernard edd...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eddie Bernard edd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thursday, 26 March, 2009, 9:52 AM 2009/3/26 Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk: Looking at the hardware, you're looking at about 110-130 plus 20 for national delivery plus a bit for you so lets say 180 a unit-ish. You're in the area I'm looking at... but my raw costs are higher than 130, and I thought I'd sourced everything pretty cheaply. If you can show me how you came to that calculation I'd be very interested. I'm buying a case (450W PSU included), the E1400, a socket 775 mobo w/ onboard graphics and sound, a 160GB SATA(II) 7200rpm hdd, 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800MHz RAM, and a CD/DVD writer/rewriter. As for everything else Mr Pope is correct get onto Canonical for permission to use the ubuntu branding if nothing else. If I recall you have to send a sample machine in to canonical but again chase that up with them after all they know. I contacted them yesterday and am awaiting their response. Cheers Eddie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joiku wireless connection......
Hi, thanks for your reply. I entered iwconfig in the terminal and got this message. It is finding the Joiku wireless from what I can gether, but its not connecting. This is what came out:- == jake...@jakewc2-laptop:~$ iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. wmaster0 no wireless extensions. wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:"Johns_Joiku" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.412 GHz Cell: address Tx-Power=27 dBm Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2352 B Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 pan0 no wireless extensions. jake...@jakewc2-laptop:~$ == Strange Does anybody have any idea what that means, and why the netbook wont accept the key? John Simon Wears wrote: The 'eth2 not such device' probably means you don't have a device called eth2. Type iwconfig in terminal to get a list of your network devices, then try again using whichever your wireless device is. 2009/3/25 John jake...@sky.com Jamie Bennett wrote: Alan Pope wrote: 2009/3/25 John jake...@sky.com: Hi everybody, I have decided that using the orange dongle just isnt working, so I am trying something else. Its called Joiku. I just wondered if anybody has used it before and got it to work. I'm typing this mail whilst sat on the train connected via wifi to my phone which is running the pay-for version of Joikuspot. I have set it up according to the instructions, but it keeps asking for the encryption key. I had a similar issue when I tried to use WEP passphrase, but instead use WEP open, and it works fine. Yep, WEP open and changed the key to something I could remember on the settings page. Works a treat for me but I must admit I use it mostly with my ipod touch (*boo, *hiss). Beats getting an iphone though :) Cheers, Al. Regards, Jamie -- http://www.linuxuk.org I found a page on the Ubuntu wiki, that talks about WEP. It give this to try, c...@ubuntu:~$ sudo iwconfig eth2 essid MyNet c...@ubuntu:~$ sudo iwconfig eth2 key xx c...@ubuntu:~$ sudo ifconfig eth2 up c...@ubuntu:~$ sudo dhclient3 eth2 I changed the Mynet to the Joiku name, and the xxx to the encryption key, but it says it cant find the essid it says error for wireless request *Set ESSID* (8B1A) SET failed on device eth2 not such device not sure if I did it correct there, but that's what came back. Could it be the NetworkManager that is the problem here? John. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Simon Wears munkyju...@gmail.com http://MunkyJunky.com | http://Twitter.com/MunkyJunky MunkyJunky on irc.freenode.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joiku wireless connection......
Why don't you replace eth2 with wlan0 and see if that works better? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joiku wireless connection......
Well, I have entered that, with the wlan0 the first line works no problem, but when I entere the second line and add the code, that the phone brings up, it keeps saying Error for wireless request *Set Encode* (8B2A) invalid argument and enters the sode I put in. For some reason it wont accept the code. I copied the code exactly as I have it on the phone. John Sean Miller wrote: Why don't you replace eth2 with wlan0 and see if that works better? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joiku wireless connection......
I'm wondering if its an authentication problem. Is there something in the settings in the network manager or even Ubuntu itself that might be causing this? Simon Wears wrote: The 'eth2 not such device' probably means you don't have a device called eth2. Type iwconfig in terminal to get a list of your network devices, then try again using whichever your wireless device is. 2009/3/25 John jake...@sky.com Jamie Bennett wrote: Alan Pope wrote: 2009/3/25 John jake...@sky.com: Hi everybody, I have decided that using the orange dongle just isnt working, so I am trying something else. Its called Joiku. I just wondered if anybody has used it before and got it to work. I'm typing this mail whilst sat on the train connected via wifi to my phone which is running the pay-for version of Joikuspot. I have set it up according to the instructions, but it keeps asking for the encryption key. I had a similar issue when I tried to use WEP passphrase, but instead use WEP open, and it works fine. Yep, WEP open and changed the key to something I could remember on the settings page. Works a treat for me but I must admit I use it mostly with my ipod touch (*boo, *hiss). Beats getting an iphone though :) Cheers, Al. Regards, Jamie -- http://www.linuxuk.org I found a page on the Ubuntu wiki, that talks about WEP. It give this to try, c...@ubuntu:~$ sudo iwconfig eth2 essid MyNet c...@ubuntu:~$ sudo iwconfig eth2 key xx c...@ubuntu:~$ sudo ifconfig eth2 up c...@ubuntu:~$ sudo dhclient3 eth2 I changed the Mynet to the Joiku name, and the xxx to the encryption key, but it says it cant find the essid it says error for wireless request *Set ESSID* (8B1A) SET failed on device eth2 not such device not sure if I did it correct there, but that's what came back. Could it be the NetworkManager that is the problem here? John. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Simon Wears munkyju...@gmail.com http://MunkyJunky.com | http://Twitter.com/MunkyJunky MunkyJunky on irc.freenode.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Squid proxy box with serious IPv6 DNS problem...
Chaps... Over the last couple of days I've been trying to build a proxy box for a load of Windows PCs, using Squid on Ubuntu server 8.04. I've had a few problems with it due to the wild/wacky filtered internet connection we have there, but now I've hit a massive brick wall... Using an upstream proxy config Apt can get out to the internet fine, download and update the OS. However, Squid can't resolve any DNS loopups... it just fails a few minutes after loading. Doing a wget of a known file like the Google index page also fails with a unresolved DNS error. However, (after much much much reading) using the -4 option of wget, to force it to use IPv4, it works fine, resolves the Google address and downloads the index page and saves it. I've blacklisted the IPv6 service, but wget (and Squid) still doesn't work without the -4 option, so I guess bits of IPv6 are still hiding there somewhere My question is - How do I fix this bloomin' thing? I've been googling for hours with only the -4 option to show for it... and I really need to get this this working for Friday afternoon... Otherwise bad Windows things may happen... Cheers, Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Squid proxy box with serious IPv6 DNS problem...
I think from the description the squid thing is actually a red herring. (to mix a fishy metaphore). It sounds like your proxy server is not reliably resolving DNS when using IPV6. You will probably see this problem if you run firefox on the server. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/24828 not sure how you turned off IPV6, one way is to edit / /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and edit it to have this line: /alias net-pf-10 off ipv6 a better solution would be to fix the actual problem, one way might be to point your proxy at openDNS which works fine with v6. I suspect the DHCP server is pointing your box at a bad router for DNS queries. Alan. LeeGroups wrote: Chaps... Over the last couple of days I've been trying to build a proxy box for a load of Windows PCs, using Squid on Ubuntu server 8.04. I've had a few problems with it due to the wild/wacky filtered internet connection we have there, but now I've hit a massive brick wall... Using an upstream proxy config Apt can get out to the internet fine, download and update the OS. However, Squid can't resolve any DNS loopups... it just fails a few minutes after loading. Doing a wget of a known file like the Google index page also fails with a unresolved DNS error. However, (after much much much reading) using the -4 option of wget, to force it to use IPv4, it works fine, resolves the Google address and downloads the index page and saves it. I've blacklisted the IPv6 service, but wget (and Squid) still doesn't work without the -4 option, so I guess bits of IPv6 are still hiding there somewhere My question is - How do I fix this bloomin' thing? I've been googling for hours with only the -4 option to show for it... and I really need to get this this working for Friday afternoon... Otherwise bad Windows things may happen... Cheers, Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Squid proxy box with serious IPv6 DNS problem...
Alan, I'm actually using OpenDNS's servers (after using the ISP's), what I really don't understand is how Apt is working perfectly, but Squid and Wget don't... I saw that post before, it's what I used to supposedly turn off IPv6. I can't run FF on the server, no gui installed... Lee I think from the description the squid thing is actually a red herring. (to mix a fishy metaphore). It sounds like your proxy server is not reliably resolving DNS when using IPV6. You will probably see this problem if you run firefox on the server. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/24828 not sure how you turned off IPV6, one way is to edit / /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and edit it to have this line: /alias net-pf-10 off ipv6 a better solution would be to fix the actual problem, one way might be to point your proxy at openDNS which works fine with v6. I suspect the DHCP server is pointing your box at a bad router for DNS queries. Alan. LeeGroups wrote: Chaps... Over the last couple of days I've been trying to build a proxy box for a load of Windows PCs, using Squid on Ubuntu server 8.04. I've had a few problems with it due to the wild/wacky filtered internet connection we have there, but now I've hit a massive brick wall... Using an upstream proxy config Apt can get out to the internet fine, download and update the OS. However, Squid can't resolve any DNS loopups... it just fails a few minutes after loading. Doing a wget of a known file like the Google index page also fails with a unresolved DNS error. However, (after much much much reading) using the -4 option of wget, to force it to use IPv4, it works fine, resolves the Google address and downloads the index page and saves it. I've blacklisted the IPv6 service, but wget (and Squid) still doesn't work without the -4 option, so I guess bits of IPv6 are still hiding there somewhere My question is - How do I fix this bloomin' thing? I've been googling for hours with only the -4 option to show for it... and I really need to get this this working for Friday afternoon... Otherwise bad Windows things may happen... Cheers, Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Login prob
Savva please can you change my password on mailing list?i ve lost my password. Loucas -- Ubuntu-cy mailing list Ubuntu-cy@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-cy
Ubuntu Studio daily CD health check
This is a daily health check report on the Ubuntu Studio CD images. If you have any questions, contact Colin Watson cjwat...@ubuntu.com. No problems found! -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Question about the 'node mirror
To the fellow Internode users, Just a little curious about the mirror.. 1. Why is jaunty only in the releases-DVD dir and not releases? 2. What happened to the Alpha5 in said releases-DVD dir? 3. Any idea how often the mirror is updated? The beta came out yesterday no? Figured someone on the list may have an idea, if not I'll log a support request ;) -- Sam Jackson / Nandemonai / Junin Toiro -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Question about the 'node mirror
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:34:38 +1030 Junin Toiro junin.to...@gmail.com wrote: To the fellow Internode users, Just a little curious about the mirror.. 1. Why is jaunty only in the releases-DVD dir and not releases? 2. What happened to the Alpha5 in said releases-DVD dir? shrug, shrug. 3. Any idea how often the mirror is updated? The beta came out yesterday no? Here is the sync information: http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu/project/trace/ Gives time and dates of hosts the mirror was synced from. Its always seemed a bit... manual to me. Didn't seem to be updated regularly (or thoroughly) enough to be automatic. Recently a lot of the archive breakage has disappeared though, so that is probably changed now. Figured someone on the list may have an idea, if not I'll log a support request ;) I suggest a support ticket whatever you get back here (especially if you happened to pass on the details ;)) kk -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian user / gNewSense contributor http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Translating Xubuntu docs
Hi All, I have refreshed the .pot files that are included as part of the documentation, and have committed those .pot file refreshes to my bzr branch, but in examining the translations page of Xubuntu docs, it concerns me that it looks like people are translating older versions of the documentation. Surely it seems as though I have missed a step, but I'm afraid that trying to navigate the myriad of launchpad / rosetta translation pages is a bit on the confusing side. Any issues may be due to the fact that I have been using the xubuntu-jaunty-yelpversion branch (which was basically me starting with current Ubuntu docs, and then modifying them to suit Xubuntu), and had retired the xubuntu-jaunty branch. Here is the url to the translations page that I was referencing, though: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/xubuntu-docs Please pardon my ignorance, but I just want to make sure that translators aren't attempting to update outdated documentation, and that end-users get the most updated documentation possible. Thanks very much. Jim -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Translating Xubuntu docs
2009/3/26 Jim Campbell jwcampb...@ubuntu.com: I have refreshed the .pot files that are included as part of the documentation, and have committed those .pot file refreshes to my bzr branch, but in examining the translations page of Xubuntu docs, it concerns me that it looks like people are translating older versions of the documentation. The translations at Launchpad / Rosetta are only updated when you upload a version of xubuntu-docs package with updated .pot files included in the source to the Ubuntu archive. Then the build system rips off the .pot file and .po file, and uploads those to Rosetta. In case of UI:s, the PO file translations then automatically come as part of language packs, but for documentation the documentation maintainer has to manually download the translations from Rosetta (there should be an option to translate all languages at once, if you have sufficient privileges at Launchpad) and upload again new package to the archive with the translations included. So if xubuntu-docs source is now ok, it should be uploaded to the archive as a package. Then on or after 9th of April, which is the NonLanguagePackTranslationDeadline, translations should be fetched from Rosetta, translated XML files should be updated in the source with the new PO files and a new xubuntu-docs with all translations included should be done. If you can automate this well enough, the translators could benefit of download PO files - upload .deb cycles also before the deadline, since unfortunately testing documentation in real use is not within every translator's capabilities. (also it would be good practice in general so that it can be found if there is anything wrong with bringing the translations into use) The ubuntu-docs maintainer(s) have also experienced in the past that if the translators make typos in the XML tags, it may bring additional work to the maintainer when a fully translated upload is prepared. -Timo -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Translating Xubuntu docs
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/3/26 Jim Campbell jwcampb...@ubuntu.com: I have refreshed the .pot files that are included as part of the documentation, and have committed those .pot file refreshes to my bzr branch, but in examining the translations page of Xubuntu docs, it concerns me that it looks like people are translating older versions of the documentation. The translations at Launchpad / Rosetta are only updated when you upload a version of xubuntu-docs package with updated .pot files included in the source to the Ubuntu archive. snip This is very helpful, Timo. Thanks very much! Jim -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
[உபுண்டு பயனர்] இந்தவார கூட்ட ம்
தோழர்களே, கடந்தவார கூட்டத்தில் தமிழ் மொழியாக்கம் (குனோம் மற்றும் கே.ப.சூ ), பொதுவான அதிகம் பயன்படும் கணினி கலைசொற்கள், தமிழ் சொற்பிழைதிருத்தி மற்றும் பலவற்றை விவாதித்தோம். இதன் தொடர்ச்சியாக தமிழ் மொழியாக்கம் செய்யப்பட்ட பயன்பாடுகளை ஆராய்தல், குறைகளைதல், மெருகேற்றுதல் மற்றும் பலவற்றை வரும் வாரம் ஞாயிறன்று மாலை 4 மணி முதல் 5 மணிவரை freenode.net எனும் கூடத்தில் #ubuntu-tam எனும் அறையில் விவாதிக்கலாம். இக்கூட்டத்தில் அனைவரும் தவறாது கலந்துகொள்ளவும். ந. பத்மநாதன் -- Padhu, Pollachi. Knowledge is power ! Be an Energy (Opti)mizer - Use Electricity Wiser -- Ubuntu-tam mailing list Ubuntu-tam@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-tam
Re: [ubuntu-ec] [Flisol-Ecuador-2008] Distro Pepiks 2.2 Release
El Wednesday 25 March 2009 22:41:31 Andres Genovez escribió: Pero si se instala los controladores, firmware para Broadcom y Nvidia, no seremos un poquito *Hipocritas* o como es el buen dicho un mal necesario no señores, eso aqui y en cualquier otro lado es *HIPOCRESIA* Un criterio y percepcion social muy personal desde el trabajo diario y real, mi querido bito, que en nada representa el concenso global de la comunidad, es para mi parecer, digo esto para que no se involucre a la comunidad en polemica alguna a futuro. Es bueno tener claro los conceptos y preceptos del software libre, y tambien entender y aprehender el proceso necesario para llegar totalmente a la libertad del software y nuestros equipos. Esto quiza nos tome años, por lo pronto hemos iniciado esa peregrinacion y caminar lleno de obstaculos, piedras de todos los tamaños, bandoleros que nos acechan para quitarnos lo poco de libre que tenemos, selvas de confusiones idelogicas, atiborrado de ideologas a la orden del dia, vamos sembrando con lagrimas pero cosecharemos con alegria. Esta alegoria para dar a comprender que el proceso es largo, duro, lleno de dificultades porque no todo funciona y necesitamos, en el mundo real, trabajar, por ello tenemos uno que otro firmware, sin embargo lo que no debe olvidarse es que cuando ya tenemos el equivalente libre y funcional, nuestra voluntad, promesa y conviccion de reemplazar lo privativo por lo libre. De no ser asi, teniendo lo libre acorde a nuestra conviccion y necesidad, no cambiarlo seria contradictorio. Por lo pronto marchemos juntos, utilizando lo que ya tenemos, sin perder de vista el anhelo de que llegue a ser totalmente libre y funcional. Saludos Pedro Franco -- Ubuntu-ec mailing list Ubuntu-ec@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ec
Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] LoCo Team information request
Ola Xosé, Richard A. Johnson mandou esa solicitude á lista de correo dos LoCo teams a semana pasada. Cando o vin mandei un correo cos datos. Saúdos! Felipe. 2009/3/25 ubu...@galizaweb.net: Vin isto no último boletin mensual de Ubuntu. Non sei se o hai que actualizar para nós tamén. LOCO TEAM INFORMATION REQUEST Richard A. Johnson(nixternal) has been working on a LoCo Team Directory solution to replace the wiki teams list. He has grabbed the data from the wiki page and created a CSV file from it. He's discovered that a lot of the data is outdated, or incorrect. In order to get this information updated, he has requested that all LoCo Teams send him the information using the following format: *LP ID: *Country: *State|Province|Region: *City: *Wiki: *Website: *Mailing List: *Forums: *Email: *IRC Channel: *Provides Support: *Approved: *Approved Date: Please send the information to nixter...@ubuntu.com [1]. An example can also be found at the link. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2009-March/002919.html [2] Xosé Links: -- [1] mailto:nixter...@ubuntu.com [2] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2009-March/002919.html -- Ubuntu-l10n-gl mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-gl@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-gl -- Ubuntu-l10n-gl mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-gl@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-gl
[Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox
O seguinte fato ocorre. Eu envio muito email utilizando o thunderbird, porem eu nao tenho todo para quem eu envio o email em meu catalogo, e pego muito endereço em sites. Existe alguma forma de informar ao firefox, que quando eu clicar em um link do tipo MAILTO ele abra o thunderbird, assim como o IE faz? abraços e obrigado. -- Prof. Vagner Schoaba www.uninorteac.com.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Backup de /home em múltiplos DVDs
2009/3/24 Andre Cavalcante andre.d.cavalca...@gmail.com: Tem como fazer? (O software de gravação vai pedindo mais mídias conforme for precisando...) Eu costumava usar o tar para dividir os arquivos quando usava backups em CDs. Veja no man tar as opções de split. Queria algo mais ou menos como o DVD Spanner para MAC: http://photography.sergeant.org/dvdspanner/ http://www.qprocura.com.br/linux/dicas/1247/Como-gravar-dados-em-um-disco-DVD.html Não conheço esse programa, mas os do gênero que já usei fazem justamente o que o tar faz: criar um meta-arquivo com tudo dentro dividido em tamanhos, para depois gravar! -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox
Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 07:13 -0400, Vagner Schoaba escreveu: O seguinte fato ocorre. Eu envio muito email utilizando o thunderbird, porem eu nao tenho todo para quem eu envio o email em meu catalogo, e pego muito endereço em sites. Existe alguma forma de informar ao firefox, que quando eu clicar em um link do tipo MAILTO ele abra o thunderbird, assim como o IE faz? abraços e obrigado. Abra o Firefox, vá em Editar Preferencias Programas. No item mailto selecione o programa desejado, no caso o Thunderbird. No meu caso uso o Evolution para a ação mailto. Normalmente abre a mensagem nova e é enviada automaticamente, sem a abertura do cliente Evolution. -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Diminuir fonte do console
Alguém sabe me dizer como faço para diminuir a fonte do meu console. Utilizo Ubuntu 8.10. Obrigado, Daniel -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Repo problem
Bom dia, Você pode usar o item Repositórios no menu do Synaptic ou editar o arquivo: /etc/apt/source.list Remova a linha com a fonte imprópria ou simplismente coloque um # na frente para que ela seja ignorada. Abraço, Renato Krause 2009/3/25 Adriano Oliveira asoliveir...@gmail.com como faço para removê-lo? Adriano 2009/3/25 André Gondim andre.gon...@gmail.com Esse repositório não é oficial, dê uma olhada em: http://packages.ubuntu.com Abraços, - André Gondim E-mail: andregon...@ubuntu.com Blog: http://andregondim.eti.br OpenPGP keys: 255FC60C - 2009/3/25 Adriano Oliveira asoliveir...@gmail.com Toda vez meu gerenciador de atualizações reclama que não estou atualizado. Quando faço um sudo apt-get update vem a seguinte mensagem: W: Falhou ao buscar http://repoubuntusoftware.info/dists/harty/all/binary-amd64/Packages.gz404 Not Found Alguem tem solução para isso? Adriano -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox
Desculpe entrar na conversa... mas fiz o procedimento como o Salles falou porém ñ tem a opção thunderbird e eu ñ sei qual selecionar qdo aparece a opção outro programa Obg pela atenção Johnson Dawson Linux User # 22710 Ubuntu User # 473508 Salles escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 07:13 -0400, Vagner Schoaba escreveu: O seguinte fato ocorre. Eu envio muito email utilizando o thunderbird, porem eu nao tenho todo para quem eu envio o email em meu catalogo, e pego muito endereço em sites. Existe alguma forma de informar ao firefox, que quando eu clicar em um link do tipo MAILTO ele abra o thunderbird, assim como o IE faz? abraços e obrigado. Abra o Firefox, vá em Editar Preferencias Programas. No item mailto selecione o programa desejado, no caso o Thunderbird. No meu caso uso o Evolution para a ação mailto. Normalmente abre a mensagem nova e é enviada automaticamente, sem a abertura do cliente Evolution. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Backup de /home em múltiplos DVDs
2009/3/26 china china.lis...@gmail.com: 2009/3/24 Andre Cavalcante andre.d.cavalca...@gmail.com: Tem como fazer? (O software de gravação vai pedindo mais mídias conforme for precisando...) Eu costumava usar o tar para dividir os arquivos quando usava backups em CDs. Veja no man tar as opções de split. Queria algo mais ou menos como o DVD Spanner para MAC: http://photography.sergeant.org/dvdspanner/ http://www.qprocura.com.br/linux/dicas/1247/Como-gravar-dados-em-um-disco-DVD.html Não conheço esse programa, mas os do gênero que já usei fazem justamente o que o tar faz: criar um meta-arquivo com tudo dentro dividido em tamanhos, para depois gravar! Pois é, China, eu acabei usando tar e depois split para dividir em múltiplos volumes. O negócio é que depois, se eu precisar de um simples arquivo texto, de digamos, 1MB, tenho que copiar pro HD dois tar de 4,3G, juntá-los com cat, descompactar com o tar, e isso manualmente na linha de comando pois não encontrei GUI que fizesse isso, e depois procurar pelo arquivo de 1MB no meio destes 7 e poucos gigas. Esse é o problema! Se eu pudesse criar os DVDs a partir dos diretórios brutos, seria muito mais fácil recuperar um arquivo (para início usaria tudo interface gráfica). A função deste programa é a de backup em múltiplos volumes em DVD, dos arquivos como estão (sem compactação, sem tar, sem nada). É isso! André Cavalcante Porto Alegre, RS. Ubuntu User number # 24370 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Diminuir fonte do console
Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 08:58 -0300, Daniel Frutuoso escreveu: Alguém sabe me dizer como faço para diminuir a fonte do meu console. Utilizo Ubuntu 8.10. Daniel, Nas configurações gerais de fontes: Sistema Preferencias Aparencia Fontes. Você tem as opções de fontes e tamanhos, mas creio que as modificações erão aplicadas em todo o sistema. -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox
Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 09:12 -0300, Johnson Dawson escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 07:13 -0400, Vagner Schoaba escreveu: O seguinte fato ocorre. Eu envio muito email utilizando o thunderbird, porem eu nao tenho todo para quem eu envio o email em meu catalogo, e pego muito endereço em sites. Existe alguma forma de informar ao firefox, que quando eu clicar em um link do tipo MAILTO ele abra o thunderbird, assim como o IE faz? abraços e obrigado. Abra o Firefox, vá em Editar Preferencias Programas. No item mailto selecione o programa desejado, no caso o Thunderbird. No meu caso uso o Evolution para a ação mailto. Normalmente abre a mensagem nova e é enviada automaticamente, sem a abertura do cliente Evolution. Desculpe entrar na conversa... mas fiz o procedimento como o Salles falou porém ñ tem a opção thunderbird e eu ñ sei qual selecionar qdo aparece a opção outro programa Johnson Dawson Johnson, Você tem que ter um cliente de mail instalado para que ele possa ser selecionado, seja o Thunderbird, o Evolution ou outro. Após instalado, deverá ser reconhecido pelo Firefox ou, quando clicar em um link de mailto, será questionado qual aplicativo usar e, após selecionado, será o padrão doravante. -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Backup de /home em múltiplos DVDs
Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 09:27 -0300, Andre Cavalcante escreveu: Pois é, China, eu acabei usando tar e depois split para dividir em múltiplos volumes. O negócio é que depois, se eu precisar de um simples arquivo texto, de digamos, 1MB, tenho que copiar pro HD dois tar de 4,3G, juntá-los com cat, descompactar com o tar, e isso manualmente na linha de comando pois não encontrei GUI que fizesse isso, e depois procurar pelo arquivo de 1MB no meio destes 7 e poucos gigas. Esse é o problema! Se eu pudesse criar os DVDs a partir dos diretórios brutos, seria muito mais fácil recuperar um arquivo (para início usaria tudo interface gráfica). A função deste programa é a de backup em múltiplos volumes em DVD, dos arquivos como estão (sem compactação, sem tar, sem nada). É isso! André, Eu uso um meio para backups que considero mais prático que um programa propriamente dito, e acho que ele me é mais conveniente. Não sei se a idéia agrada, mas segue: Habitualmente, crio pacotes compactados por seção, o que me facilita em muito quando preciso de determinados arquivos. Exemplificando, tipo: 2009mails01, 2009mails02, arquivos compactados para cada mês e assim sucessivamente por cada tipo de pacote. Tenho arquivos separados de alguns megas cada. Adiciono-os para a criação de tantas isos quanto forem necessárias para CDs ou DVDs. A praticidade é que não preciso usar um programa de backup ou ficar juntando ou separando arquivos grandes: Insiro a mídia e pego a seção que eu quizer abrindo-a diretamente com o compactador. Dá um pouco mais de trabalho, mas é mais prático pois tenho que consultar esses arquivos esporadicamente. Hoje não uso mais mídias de CD ou DVD, passo os arquivos diretamente para um Cartão Flash e o espelho para um pendrive, ou seja, tenho dois backups sempre atualizados quase que diariamente. Anualmente... Fecho o backup gravando tudo em duas cópias para DVDs. -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox
Certo Salles, mas acho q vc ñ entendeu... eu uso o thunderbird q logicamente está instalado mas ñ aparece a opção de selecionar thunderbird e no q se refere a opção outro programa qdo clico eu ñ sei o q selecionar Um abraço Johnson Dawson Linux User # 22710 Ubuntu User # 473508 Salles escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 09:12 -0300, Johnson Dawson escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 07:13 -0400, Vagner Schoaba escreveu: O seguinte fato ocorre. Eu envio muito email utilizando o thunderbird, porem eu nao tenho todo para quem eu envio o email em meu catalogo, e pego muito endereço em sites. Existe alguma forma de informar ao firefox, que quando eu clicar em um link do tipo MAILTO ele abra o thunderbird, assim como o IE faz? abraços e obrigado. Abra o Firefox, vá em Editar Preferencias Programas. No item mailto selecione o programa desejado, no caso o Thunderbird. No meu caso uso o Evolution para a ação mailto. Normalmente abre a mensagem nova e é enviada automaticamente, sem a abertura do cliente Evolution. Desculpe entrar na conversa... mas fiz o procedimento como o Salles falou porém ñ tem a opção thunderbird e eu ñ sei qual selecionar qdo aparece a opção outro programa Johnson Dawson Johnson, Você tem que ter um cliente de mail instalado para que ele possa ser selecionado, seja o Thunderbird, o Evolution ou outro. Após instalado, deverá ser reconhecido pelo Firefox ou, quando clicar em um link de mailto, será questionado qual aplicativo usar e, após selecionado, será o padrão doravante. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Diminuir fonte do console
Daniel, Vá até o menu: EditarPreferencias do perfilGeralUsar a fonte de largura do sistema Desmarque essa opção e altere o tamanho da fonte logo a baixo. Abraço, Renato Krause 2009/3/26 Salles salles@gmail.com Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 08:58 -0300, Daniel Frutuoso escreveu: Alguém sabe me dizer como faço para diminuir a fonte do meu console. Utilizo Ubuntu 8.10. Daniel, Nas configurações gerais de fontes: Sistema Preferencias Aparencia Fontes. Você tem as opções de fontes e tamanhos, mas creio que as modificações erão aplicadas em todo o sistema. -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Diminuir fonte do console
2009/3/26 Daniel Frutuoso daniel.frutu...@ig.com.br Alguém sabe me dizer como faço para diminuir a fonte do meu console. Utilizo Ubuntu 8.10. Obrigado, Daniel Vá no menu Editar Perfil atual Na aba Geral tem onde configurar a fonte. -- Humberto Xis http://xisberto.blogspot.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Diminuir fonte do console
Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 10:26 -0300, Renato Krause escreveu: Daniel, Vá até o menu: EditarPreferencias do perfilGeralUsar a fonte de largura do sistema Desmarque essa opção e altere o tamanho da fonte logo a baixo. Abraço, Renato Krause Caraca... fiquei procurando propriedades no terminal e nem me toquei no perfil atual... é, vou aprendendo também. 2009/3/26 Salles salles@gmail.com Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 08:58 -0300, Daniel Frutuoso escreveu: Alguém sabe me dizer como faço para diminuir a fonte do meu console. Utilizo Ubuntu 8.10. Daniel, Nas configurações gerais de fontes: Sistema Preferencias Aparencia Fontes. Você tem as opções de fontes e tamanhos, mas creio que as modificações erão aplicadas em todo o sistema. -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox
Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 10:04 -0300, Johnson Dawson escreveu: Certo Salles, mas acho q vc ñ entendeu... eu uso o thunderbird q logicamente está instalado mas ñ aparece a opção de selecionar thunderbird e no q se refere a opção outro programa qdo clico eu ñ sei o q selecionar Entendi agora a que se referiu: Se estiver errado, por favor me corrijam: Outro programa: Selecione arquivos de sistema/usr/bin/thunderbird. Creio que é esse o caminho. -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox
Obg Salles... acho q o caminho é esse mesmo Vlw Amigo Johnson Dawson Linux User # 22710 Ubuntu User # 473508 Salles escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 10:04 -0300, Johnson Dawson escreveu: Certo Salles, mas acho q vc ñ entendeu... eu uso o thunderbird q logicamente está instalado mas ñ aparece a opção de selecionar thunderbird e no q se refere a opção outro programa qdo clico eu ñ sei o q selecionar Entendi agora a que se referiu: Se estiver errado, por favor me corrijam: Outro programa: Selecione arquivos de sistema/usr/bin/thunderbird. Creio que é esse o caminho. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox
Olá, No menu do Ubuntu, vá em Sistema - Preferências - Aplicações Preferenciais. Informe seu leitor na Aba Internet, opção Leitor de E-mail. Atenciosamente Ney Senna Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:04:47 -0300 From: Johnson Dawson johnson.ubu...@yahoo.com.br Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: 49cb7d6f.3040...@yahoo.com.br Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Certo Salles, mas acho q vc ñ entendeu... eu uso o thunderbird q logicamente está instalado mas ñ aparece a opção de selecionar thunderbird e no q se refere a opção outro programa qdo clico eu ñ sei o q selecionar Um abraço ?Johnson Dawson Linux User # 22710 Ubuntu User # 473508 Salles escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 09:12 -0300, Johnson Dawson escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 07:13 -0400, Vagner Schoaba escreveu: O seguinte fato ocorre. Eu envio muito email utilizando o thunderbird, porem eu nao tenho todo para quem eu envio o email em meu catalogo, e pego muito endereço em sites. Existe alguma forma de informar ao firefox, que quando eu clicar em um link do tipo MAILTO ele abra o thunderbird, assim como o IE faz? abraços e obrigado. Abra o Firefox, vá em Editar Preferencias Programas. No item mailto selecione o programa desejado, no caso o Thunderbird. No meu caso uso o Evolution para a ação mailto. Normalmente abre a mensagem nova e é enviada automaticamente, sem a abertura do cliente Evolution. Desculpe entrar na conversa... mas fiz o procedimento como o Salles falou porém ñ tem a opção thunderbird e eu ñ sei qual selecionar qdo aparece a opção outro programa ?Johnson Dawson Johnson, Você tem que ter um cliente de mail instalado para que ele possa ser selecionado, seja o Thunderbird, o Evolution ou outro. Após instalado, deverá ser reconhecido pelo Firefox ou, quando clicar em um link de mailto, será questionado qual aplicativo usar e, após selecionado, será o padrão doravante. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox
Johnson Dawson escreveu: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedCerto Salles, mas acho q vc ñ entendeu... eu uso o thunderbird q logicamente está instalado mas ñ aparece a opção de selecionar thunderbird e no q se refere a opção outro programa qdo clico eu ñ sei o q selecionar Um abraço Johnson Dawson Linux User # 22710 Ubuntu User # 473508 Salles escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 09:12 -0300, Johnson Dawson escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 07:13 -0400, Vagner Schoaba escreveu: O seguinte fato ocorre. Eu envio muito email utilizando o thunderbird, porem eu nao tenho todo para quem eu envio o email em meu catalogo, e pego muito endereço em sites. Existe alguma forma de informar ao firefox, que quando eu clicar em um link do tipo MAILTO ele abra o thunderbird, assim como o IE faz? abraços e obrigado. Abra o Firefox, vá em Editar Preferencias Programas. No item mailto selecione o programa desejado, no caso o Thunderbird. No meu caso uso o Evolution para a ação mailto. Normalmente abre a mensagem nova e é enviada automaticamente, sem a abertura do cliente Evolution. Desculpe entrar na conversa... mas fiz o procedimento como o Salles falou porém ñ tem a opção thunderbird e eu ñ sei qual selecionar qdo aparece a opção outro programa Johnson Dawson Johnson, Você tem que ter um cliente de mail instalado para que ele possa ser selecionado, seja o Thunderbird, o Evolution ou outro. Após instalado, deverá ser reconhecido pelo Firefox ou, quando clicar em um link de mailto, será questionado qual aplicativo usar e, após selecionado, será o padrão doravante. /div Olá Johnson vê se esse site resolve teu problema! ;) http://www.dicas-l.com.br/dicas-l/20050612.php Espero que tenha ajudado em algo Abraços.. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox
Johnson Dawson escreveu: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedCerto Salles, mas acho q vc ñ entendeu... eu uso o thunderbird q logicamente está instalado mas ñ aparece a opção de selecionar thunderbird e no q se refere a opção outro programa qdo clico eu ñ sei o q selecionar Um abraço Johnson Dawson Linux User # 22710 Ubuntu User # 473508 Salles escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 09:12 -0300, Johnson Dawson escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 07:13 -0400, Vagner Schoaba escreveu: O seguinte fato ocorre. Eu envio muito email utilizando o thunderbird, porem eu nao tenho todo para quem eu envio o email em meu catalogo, e pego muito endereço em sites. Existe alguma forma de informar ao firefox, que quando eu clicar em um link do tipo MAILTO ele abra o thunderbird, assim como o IE faz? abraços e obrigado. Abra o Firefox, vá em Editar Preferencias Programas. No item mailto selecione o programa desejado, no caso o Thunderbird. No meu caso uso o Evolution para a ação mailto. Normalmente abre a mensagem nova e é enviada automaticamente, sem a abertura do cliente Evolution. Desculpe entrar na conversa... mas fiz o procedimento como o Salles falou porém ñ tem a opção thunderbird e eu ñ sei qual selecionar qdo aparece a opção outro programa Johnson Dawson Johnson, Você tem que ter um cliente de mail instalado para que ele possa ser selecionado, seja o Thunderbird, o Evolution ou outro. Após instalado, deverá ser reconhecido pelo Firefox ou, quando clicar em um link de mailto, será questionado qual aplicativo usar e, após selecionado, será o padrão doravante. /div opa, desculpa a falha.. mandei o link errado, apesar de falar também sobre como integrar, aquelas informações tão desatualizadas.. na verdade eu fiz um que deu certo que foi este aqui: http://www.guiadohardware.net/comunidade/integracao-linux/683299/ tenta esse pra ver se dá certo, qqr coisa da um grito! E desculpe novamente a falha técnica.. :p abraços ozin -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox
Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 11:14 -0300, Johnson Dawson escreveu: Obg Salles... acho q o caminho é esse mesmo Vlw Amigo Johnson Dawson Linux User # 22710 Ubuntu User # 473508 Salles escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 10:04 -0300, Johnson Dawson escreveu: Certo Salles, mas acho q vc ñ entendeu... eu uso o thunderbird q logicamente está instalado mas ñ aparece a opção de selecionar thunderbird e no q se refere a opção outro programa qdo clico eu ñ sei o q selecionar Entendi agora a que se referiu: Se estiver errado, por favor me corrijam: Outro programa: Selecione arquivos de sistema/usr/bin/thunderbird. Creio que é esse o caminho. Obrigado galera, mais ainda insisti em abrir outro browser.. mais eu vou dar uma olhada aqui.. flw.. obrigado -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] [UBUNTU-Br] Procuro contúdo ubun tu+open office para dar curso
Olá, Caros colegas, Sou professor de Informática de uma Escola Municipal aqui da minha cidade, e um dos projetos que estou realizando é um curso básico de informática,neste eu devo ensinar as aos alunos da 8ª série o básico, porém eu queria saber qual as recomendações de fonte de matérias para eu dar minhas aulas. Eu penso no seguinte plano de ensino: Conteúdo Programático 1. Visão Geral de Hardware e Software 1. Computador 2. Hardware 3. Dispositivo de Saída 4. Dispositivo de Entrada 5. Unidade de processamento 6. Dispositivo de armazenamento 7. Memória RAM 8. Software 9. O que é Software Livre? 2. Escrevendo Textos com o BrOffice - Writer 1. Processador de textos 2. Digitação de textos 3. Tipos e letras 4. Tamanho das letras 5. Itálico, Negrito e Sublinhado 6. Alinhamento de texto 7. Letras Coloridas 8. Inserindo uma Imagem 9. Zoom 10. Salvando o documento 11. Funções Importantes 12. Tabelas 13. Copiar, recortar e colar 14. Localizar e substituir 3. Fazendo contas com o BrOffice - Calc 1. Planilha Eletrônica 2. Inserir dados 3. Colorindo células 4. Cálculos simples 5. Unidades de medidas 6. Calculando a média 7. Copiando fórmulas 8. Selecionando formato para salvar o documento 2. A Internet 1. O que é a Internet? 2. World Wide Web 3. E-Mail Gratuito 4. O que é um site? 5. Domínios 6. Iniciando um navegador 7. Carregando uma página 8. Navegando na Internet 9. Procurando sites na Web 10. Outros sites de busca na Web 11. Criando Favoritos 12. Trabalhando com Abas 13. Localizando palavras em uma página da Web 14. Copiando Imagens da Internet para o Computador 4. Utilizando GNU/Linux e GNOME 1. O que é um sistema operacional? 2. O que é GNU/Linux? 3. O que é GNOME? 4. Iniciar uma aplicação por um atalho 5. Arquivos 6. Tamanho de arquivos 7. Pastas 8. Pasta do usuário 9. Criar arquivo ou pasta 10. Renomear arquivo ou pasta 11. Mover arquivo ou pasta 12. Colocar arquivos ou pastas em um disquete 13. Apagar arquivo ou pasta 14. Copiar arquivo ou pasta 15. Abrir arquivo ou pasta 16. Minimizando, maximizando e fechando uma janela 17. Redimensionando uma janela 18. Movendo uma janela 19. Barra de Rolagem 20. Iniciar aplicação pelo menu 7. Comparação de Sistemas Operacionais 1. Nautilus e Windows Explorer 2. Writer e Microsoft Word 3. Calc e Microsoft Excel 4. Mozilla Firefox e Internet Explorer Com o espírito do software livre peço ajuda a vocês para tornar a nova geração adepta ao software livre, e me ajudando com o melhor conteúdo. O Foco do curso é eles saberem criarem documentos de texto/planilha, criar e mover arquivos, o básico para poderem utilizar o computador. Eu copiei o conteúdo programático de um curso pago que achei na web. gostaria de saber a opinião de vocês. As aulas serão de 02H. uma vez por semana, e eu ainda não começei :P -- -- Att., Gabriel Molter gabriel.molter at Gmail.com Você está usando 124 MB (1%) de 7298 MB no momento. GMail : Unlimited Power !!! --- -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox
Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 13:40 -0400, Vagner Schoaba escreveu: Salles escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 10:04 -0300, Johnson Dawson escreveu: Entendi agora a que se referiu: Se estiver errado, por favor me corrijam: Outro programa: Selecione arquivos de sistema/usr/bin/thunderbird. Creio que é esse o caminho. Obrigado galera, mais ainda insisti em abrir outro browser.. mais eu vou dar uma olhada aqui.. flw.. obrigado Vagner, chegou a ver a configuração do cliente de mail no Firefox? Qualquer problema, retorne. -- Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Gravador de Áudio
Bem, Eu tenho este gravador aí... É um Panasonic RR-US430. Conecto ele na USB e logo depois ele é reconhecido. Vi isto pelo comando lsusb que retorna: Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 008: ID 0951:1603 Kingston Technology Data Traveler 1GB/2GB Pen Drive Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0bda:8187 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8187 Wireless Adapter Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 003: ID 045e:009d Microsoft Corp. Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 003: ID 0c45:602c Microdia Clas Ohlson TWC-30XOP WebCam Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 006: ID 04da:2390 Panasonic (Matsushita) Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Linha: Panasonic (Matsushita) A grande pergunta é: E daí? Reconheceu ele lá... Como é que eu faço para usar o dispositivo? Tem alguma outra forma de acessar o conteúdo dele? Obrigado, -- Marcelo Torres Ubuntu User #26396 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [UBUNTU-Br] Procuro contúdo u buntu+open office para dar curso
Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 15:03 -0300, Gabriel Molter escreveu: Sou professor de Informática de uma Escola Municipal aqui da minha cidade, e um dos projetos que estou realizando é um curso básico de informática,neste eu devo ensinar as aos alunos da 8ª série o básico, porém eu queria saber qual as recomendações de fonte de matérias para eu dar minhas aulas. Eu penso no seguinte plano de ensino: 1. Visão Geral de Hardware e Software 2. Escrevendo Textos com o BrOffice - Writer 3. Fazendo contas com o BrOffice - Calc 2. A Internet 4. Utilizando GNU/Linux e GNOME 7. Comparação de Sistemas Operacionais O Foco do curso é eles saberem criarem documentos de texto/planilha, criar e mover arquivos, o básico para poderem utilizar o computador. Prezado Gabriel, Seguir uma programação é complicado e, para o que você propõe, deverá procurar tutoriais específicos para cada objetivo e resumi-los, pois os conteúdos são habitualmente extensos e não pertinentes a iniciantes, digamos assim. Para o sistema em sí, o link a seguir tem um excelente tutorial do Ubuntu em português: http://www.guiadopc.com.br/dicas-e-tutoriais/3132/manual-completo-do-ubuntu-804-em-pdf.html Para o OpenOffice, a brOffice disponibiliza vários tutoriais para uso dos aplicativos no link abaixo: http://www.broffice.org/doc/tutoriais Para os demais itens creio que deverá fazer uma busca para catar os tutoriais mais adequados, os sites guiadopc (acima), guiadohardware e vivaolinux são boas fontes de pesquisa. Abraços, Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Repo problem
Mostre aqui o seu soure.list. 2009/3/26 Renato Krause renatokra...@gmail.com Bom dia, Você pode usar o item Repositórios no menu do Synaptic ou editar o arquivo: /etc/apt/source.list Remova a linha com a fonte imprópria ou simplismente coloque um # na frente para que ela seja ignorada. Abraço, Renato Krause 2009/3/25 Adriano Oliveira asoliveir...@gmail.com como faço para removê-lo? Adriano 2009/3/25 André Gondim andre.gon...@gmail.com Esse repositório não é oficial, dê uma olhada em: http://packages.ubuntu.com Abraços, - André Gondim E-mail: andregon...@ubuntu.com Blog: http://andregondim.eti.br OpenPGP keys: 255FC60C - 2009/3/25 Adriano Oliveira asoliveir...@gmail.com Toda vez meu gerenciador de atualizações reclama que não estou atualizado. Quando faço um sudo apt-get update vem a seguinte mensagem: W: Falhou ao buscar http://repoubuntusoftware.info/dists/harty/all/binary-amd64/Packages.gz404 Not Found Alguem tem solução para isso? Adriano -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Charles Jr. Rech -- www.how2ubuntu.blogspot.com We need a change (Barack Obama) .~. / v \ Be free! /( )\ ^^-^^ -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] conflito na plca de som
Ola galera sou novo na lista estou com um problme na placa de som no ubuntu apenas no skype nao sai voz no fone a placa e uma intel 8280 (Ich7 family), high definition audio esta conf como hda intel (hw:intel,0) alsa mixer,funciona tudo menos essa parte com o fone sera que alguem ja teve esse problema e pode me passar alguma dica. obrigado -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Impedir um pendrive específico de mo ntar
Boa ideia mauro. Fernando esses links também pode lhe ajudar: http://www.devile.net/blogue/utilizar-uuids-ou-labels-no-bootloader/ http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-finding-using-uuids-to-update-fstab/ E outra... se vc especificar o seu dispositivo no fstab e colocar a opção * noauto* - (Não monta os sistemas de arquivos durante a inicialização (útil para CD-ROMS e disquetes). ? 2009/3/25 mauro.riso...@gmail.com mauro.riso...@gmail.com Fernando Bunn escreveu: Olá a todos. Estou com um problema qe não consigo resolver, tenho uma distro live em um pendrive, rodando kubuntu8.04. O problema é o seguinte, ele monta a partição do pendrive, e eu queria impedir isso de acontecer, ou seja, o pendrive em que a imagem está nunca fosse montado, ou pelo menos o seu ícone removido, e continuar com o comportamento padrão com outros pendrives. Alguém tem idéia de como resolver isso?! Estou olhando os rules do udev mas não estou conseguindo fazer o que pretendo. Obrigado desde já Fernando. Verifique o ID do fabricante e ID do model, previamente com o comando lsusb. Depois crie um script shell, não permitindo a montagem ou desmontando automaticamente o pen-drive, na sua inserção. O problema, que só será válido para aquele pen-drive em específico, ou seja, um script por pen-drive ou range de pen-drives. É uma idéia rustica, que tive agora. Mauro Risonho de Paula Assumpção Desenvolvedor de Software Linux -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Charles Jr. Rech -- www.how2ubuntu.blogspot.com We need a change (Barack Obama) .~. / v \ Be free! /( )\ ^^-^^ -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] usar ubuntu sem atualização
Sim, com o Firefox ele continuaria recebendo as atualizações normais. Mas as atualizações do ubuntu versao (XX) antiga nao. 2009/3/24 Tadeu Cruz tadeuc...@tadeucruz.com Citando Xisberto xisbe...@gmail.com: 2009/3/24 Hugo Leandro leandro.alcap...@gmail.com Olá pessoal, é o seguinte, eu gostaria de saber qual o problema em usar um ubuntu cujo o suporte ja tenha acabado? há muitos problemas de risco, segurança, como isso funciona...? obrigado Se o suporte acabou, significa que os pacotes não serão atualizados. Então, se houver algum bug ou falha de segurança vc vai ficar com estas vulnerabilidades. Aí é bugs que estragam hardware e crackers explorando falhas de segurança. -- Humberto Xis http://xisberto.blogspot.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br Se você atualizar o Firefox sempre acho que não vai ter muitos problemas. -- http://blog.tadeucruz.com This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Charles Jr. Rech -- www.how2ubuntu.blogspot.com We need a change (Barack Obama) .~. / v \ Be free! /( )\ ^^-^^ -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [UBUNTU-Br] Procuro contúdo ubun tu+open office para dar curso
Gabriel, 7. Comparação de Sistemas Operacionais Seria uma boa idéia dar uma noção boa pra garotada já. ;D 2009/3/26 Salles salles@gmail.com Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 15:03 -0300, Gabriel Molter escreveu: Sou professor de Informática de uma Escola Municipal aqui da minha cidade, e um dos projetos que estou realizando é um curso básico de informática,neste eu devo ensinar as aos alunos da 8ª série o básico, porém eu queria saber qual as recomendações de fonte de matérias para eu dar minhas aulas. Eu penso no seguinte plano de ensino: 1. Visão Geral de Hardware e Software 2. Escrevendo Textos com o BrOffice - Writer 3. Fazendo contas com o BrOffice - Calc 2. A Internet 4. Utilizando GNU/Linux e GNOME 7. Comparação de Sistemas Operacionais O Foco do curso é eles saberem criarem documentos de texto/planilha, criar e mover arquivos, o básico para poderem utilizar o computador. Prezado Gabriel, Seguir uma programação é complicado e, para o que você propõe, deverá procurar tutoriais específicos para cada objetivo e resumi-los, pois os conteúdos são habitualmente extensos e não pertinentes a iniciantes, digamos assim. Para o sistema em sí, o link a seguir tem um excelente tutorial do Ubuntu em português: http://www.guiadopc.com.br/dicas-e-tutoriais/3132/manual-completo-do-ubuntu-804-em-pdf.html Para o OpenOffice, a brOffice disponibiliza vários tutoriais para uso dos aplicativos no link abaixo: http://www.broffice.org/doc/tutoriais Para os demais itens creio que deverá fazer uma busca para catar os tutoriais mais adequados, os sites guiadopc (acima), guiadohardware e vivaolinux são boas fontes de pesquisa. Abraços, Salles (Nethell) Ubuntu User 24389 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Charles Jr. Rech -- www.how2ubuntu.blogspot.com We need a change (Barack Obama) .~. / v \ Be free! /( )\ ^^-^^ -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] abrir cliente de email atraves do firefox
Johnson Dawson escreveu: Certo Salles, mas acho q vc ñ entendeu... eu uso o thunderbird q logicamente está instalado mas ñ aparece a opção de selecionar thunderbird e no q se refere a opção outro programa qdo clico eu ñ sei o q selecionar Um abraço Johnson Dawson Linux User # 22710 Ubuntu User # 473508 Salles escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 à s 09:12 -0300, Johnson Dawson escreveu: Em Qui, 2009-03-26 à s 07:13 -0400, Vagner Schoaba escreveu: O seguinte fato ocorre. Eu envio muito email utilizando o thunderbird, porem eu nao tenho todo para quem eu envio o email em meu catalogo, e pego muito endereço em sites. Existe alguma forma de informar ao firefox, que quando eu clicar em um link do tipo MAILTO ele abra o thunderbird, assim como o IE faz? abraços e obrigado. Abra o Firefox, vá em Editar Preferencias Programas. No item mailto selecione o programa desejado, no caso o Thunderbird. No meu caso uso o Evolution para a ação mailto. Normalmente abre a mensagem nova e é enviada automaticamente, sem a abertura do cliente Evolution. Desculpe entrar na conversa... mas fiz o procedimento como o Salles falou porém ñ tem a opção thunderbird e eu ñ sei qual selecionar qdo aparece a opção outro programa Johnson Dawson Johnson, Você tem que ter um cliente de mail instalado para que ele possa ser selecionado, seja o Thunderbird, o Evolution ou outro. Após instalado, deverá ser reconhecido pelo Firefox ou, quando clicar em um link de mailto, será questionado qual aplicativo usar e, após selecionado, será o padrão doravante. Em outros coloque: /usr/bin/thunderbird -- Wilson Bom - Serprodata Informática Ltda | Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex 8.10 Av. Marcelino Pires, 1405| Dataflex 3.2 Linux - Dataflex 3.2 MS-DOS 79800-004 - Dourados - MS| Linux counter: 292553 - ICQ: 173201561 serprod...@yahoo.com.br | wbpb2...@yahoo.com.br - wilson_...@hotmail.com - __ Faça ligações para outros computadores com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [UBUNTU-Br] Procuro contúdo ubuntu +open office para dar curso
1238092814.5728.17.ca...@nethell 3cd7af290903261231r6e3a1f91q79b131cfc12ec...@mail.gmail.com Message-ID: b8cb94a37595c95c777dfb010eeb2...@10.0.0.3 X-Sender: ch...@anca.org.br Received: from 10.0.0.69 [10.0.0.69] via 200.231.159.69 [200.231.159.69] with HTTP/1.0 (POST); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:25:37 -0300 User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Grande eu tenho uma apostila de ubuntu acho que tem um bom material para ti,so que tenho que mandar pelo outro e-mail pois meu nao tem espaco mb para enviar ok. vai chegar no end como chico.me...@gmail.com ok 2 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [UBUNTU-Br] Procuro contúdo ubu ntu+open office para dar curso
opa! se puder mandar um com copia pra meu email eu agradeço... ando precisando muito material pra ler... to de ferias sabe... Em Qui, 2009-03-26 às 17:25 -0300, ch...@anca.org.br escreveu: 1238092814.5728.17.ca...@nethell 3cd7af290903261231r6e3a1f91q79b131cfc12ec...@mail.gmail.com Message-ID: b8cb94a37595c95c777dfb010eeb2...@10.0.0.3 X-Sender: ch...@anca.org.br Received: from 10.0.0.69 [10.0.0.69] via 200.231.159.69 [200.231.159.69] with HTTP/1.0 (POST); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:25:37 -0300 User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Grande eu tenho uma apostila de ubuntu acho que tem um bom material para ti,so que tenho que mandar pelo outro e-mail pois meu nao tem espaco mb para enviar ok. vai chegar no end como chico.me...@gmail.com ok 2 -- Daniel Alves Encarregado de Compras Fone (67) 3383-3311 Cel (67) 9277-0081 Cel (67) 9267-7202 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Jogos
Link com dicas de jogos fps para Linux. http://www.guiadohardware.net/dicas/fps-3d-linux.html -- = \/ \/ \/ *Guia não oficial para iniciantes do Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) : http://www.guiaubuntupt.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu_hardy *Tutorial Multimédia para o Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron: http://ubuntuforum-pt.org/index.php?topic=34887.75 *ubuntued http://ubuntued.info/2008/09/como-personalisar-o-relogio-do-gnome.html *Guia para iniciantes http://planeta-ulb.net/wiki/index.php/Guia_para_iniciantes *Linux for Travelers http://www.linuxfortravelers.com/ubuntu-live-cd-guide *UserDocumentation https://help.ubuntu.com/community O Linux é bom, mas ainda sou salva pelo windows! Eu mesma. Hahaha *** * Gatos nos olham com superioridade. Cachorros nos olham com docilidade. * *Só os porcos nos olham como iguais W. Churchill * * --* *Linux User:475513* * --* *** -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Software de Backup Simple Backup Suite
Porque vc nao usa o rsync + crontab, é simples de fazer, o meu backup faço com eles uso um script bem fanta q eu fiz mais atende minhas necessidades, faço backup pela rede, do servidor de arquivos para uma manquina q entre outras coisas faz backup a noite, se tiver duvidas de como usar posta aqui ok 2009/3/25 Paulo ubu...@datahelp.com.br: Testei aqui realmente e funcionou agora vou tentar achar alguma forma para agendar esse backup automaticamente Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:48:30 -0300, Nelson Corrêa nelson.ubu...@gmail.com escreveu: Paulo wrote: Nelson fui onde você pediu para ir e não tinha backup algum... somente de alguns arquivos do sistema Quando estou configurando backup eu aponto a pasta que ele deve salvar o backup e dentro dessa pasta ele salva esses arquivos aqui excludes files.tgz flist packages artitions ver menos os arquivo real de backup teria outro software para indicar que faça agendamento e funcione? Paulo, Eu prefiro usar o GRsync (você acha via Synaptic). Na essência, ele faz uma cópia dos diretórios que você define, localmente ou em um HD externo. Na primeira vez ele copia tudo. Dependendo da quantidade de dados que você definiu para copiar, pode demorar mais de uma hora, no caso de HDs via USB. Mas nas próximas vezes ele só atualiza e sincroniza os diretórios. Abraços, Nelson -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Linux User # 481138 Ubuntu User # 24977 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Programa de backup
Eu uso um scriptizinho bem simples usando rsync e jogo ele no cron pra ficar automatico, da pra fazer backup incremental, compactado, completo o q vc quiser. 2009/3/22 Adriano Oliveira asoliveir...@gmail.com: obrigado pela dica. Adriano 2009/3/22 Joao Luiz Messias joao...@yahoo.com.br Adriano Tem um que é desenvolvido em JAVA, é o ARECA BACKUP. ele é bem simples, mas tem umas opções interessantes, faz backup incremental e completo. O único problema é que ele não tem opção pra backup automático, depois de configurado, quando quiser realizar um backup, é necessário acessar o ARECA e clicar em backup. João Luiz Em Sex, 2009-03-20 às 22:14 -0300, Adriano Oliveira escreveu: Senhores, Na opiniãode vcs, qual o melhor programa de backup no ubuntu? Estou com um drive externo e estou querendo um desses programas que fzem bakup automático. Naveguei na net e vi vários, mas ta dificil escolher. Alguma opinião? Adriano -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Linux User # 481138 Ubuntu User # 24977 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br