[Bug 139776] Re: Does not support filenames with whitespace
** Changed in: latexmk (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139776 Title: Does not support filenames with whitespace To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/latexmk/+bug/139776/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 648379] Re: Artifacts when scaling down with Sinc Lanczos3
Given the symptoms: 1) Occurs during resizing using factors that are not powers of 2 (i.e., 2, 4, 8, etc.). Comment #2 2) The thatched pattern is the color (254, 254, 254), where pure white is (255, 255, 255). Attachment to Comment #1 3) Only occurs for pure white (255, 255, 255) starting image. Comment #3 I would strongly suspect that this is not a bug, but a rounding error inherent in filter. It just happens that only images starting from pure white end up with rounding errors large enough to change a pixel value by one. The Lanczos filter actually takes on negative values at places, so that might be enough to put a resampled pixel one value below where it should be when the scaling isn't a nice power of 2. In other words, this is a limitation of the filter, not a programming bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/648379 Title: Artifacts when scaling down with Sinc Lanczos3 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/648379/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 664137] Re: Clicking on links in email message body opens two pages
I haven't had this program installed in years. I seem to remember a later version fixing this problem, but I can't verify. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/664137 Title: Clicking on links in email message body opens two pages To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/checkgmail/+bug/664137/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 923242] Re: Cannot restore rhythmbox from notification area in gnome-shell after closing window
I've reported this upstream (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670038), and a Rhythmbox developer replied that this problem was a consequence of an Ubuntu- specific patch. In case I wasn't clear, the problem is with restoring Rhythmbox from Gnome3's Message Tray in the lower-right corner. ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #670038 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670038 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/923242 Title: Cannot restore rhythmbox from notification area in gnome-shell after closing window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/923242/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 921610] Re: playback halts, refuses to play subsequent tracks
I had the same problem until I turned off crossfading (Edit - Preferences, Playback tab, uncheck Crossfade between tracks). Crossfading never worked with MP3s, so no big loss. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/921610 Title: playback halts, refuses to play subsequent tracks To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/921610/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 923242] [NEW] Cannot restore rhythmbox from notification area in gnome-shell after closing window
Public bug reported: I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 with gnome-shell. When I close the rhythmbox window, it is still accessible through the notification area (or systray, whatever it's called) in the lower-right corner as expected. I can still pause and skip to the next or previous track. However, I can't restore the window, whether by right-clicking and selecting Open or by left-clicking and clicking on the info box. I have to restart rhythmbox from the Activities menu (it doesn't restart playback, just shows the currently running instance). If I minimize instead of closing the window, then restoration works through either of the notification area methods. ** Affects: rhythmbox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/923242 Title: Cannot restore rhythmbox from notification area in gnome-shell after closing window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/923242/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 787465] Re: View-Show MenuBar isn't working in 11.04 and later in gnome-terminal
I can confirm that markb's solution (#24 above) fixes the problem with gnome-terminal and the menu sluggishness in other programs (gedit, nautilus, etc.) when using gnome-shell. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/787465 Title: View-Show MenuBar isn't working in 11.04 and later in gnome-terminal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appmenu-gtk/+bug/787465/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 720545] [NEW] filledtriangle(...) does not use correct colors when RGB components are doubles
Public bug reported: I'm using pngwriter that comes from the Ubuntu repositories (libpngwriter0-dev and libpngwriter0c2, both version 0.5.3-3). This was reported in the sourceforge bug tracker here: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=1960365group_id=69758atid=525680 Essentially, when the RGB components of a color are represented as doubles, filledtriangle() does not convert them to the correct color. I've attached a C++ source file and the png it generates. All three shapes in the png should be the same color, but the triangle is not. There is a patch posted at (https://sourceforge.net/projects/pngwriter/forums/forum/238247/topic/3193176) that supposedly fixes the problem. ** Affects: pngwriter (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/720545 Title: filledtriangle(...) does not use correct colors when RGB components are doubles -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 720545] Re: filledtriangle(...) does not use correct colors when RGB components are doubles
** Attachment added: C++ code that generates test.png that shows triangles have incorrect color https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/720545/+attachment/1855576/+files/test.cpp -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/720545 Title: filledtriangle(...) does not use correct colors when RGB components are doubles -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 720545] Re: filledtriangle(...) does not use correct colors when RGB components are doubles
Resulting PNG attached. ** Attachment added: The png that results from the previously attached C++ program. Note the triangle is the wrong color. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pngwriter/+bug/720545/+attachment/1855577/+files/test.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/720545 Title: filledtriangle(...) does not use correct colors when RGB components are doubles -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 69, Issue 59
That's always been a concern of mine... they always seem excessive in terms of price vs. specification and I don't understand this, because surely building a machine WITHOUT Windows (and its costly licences, even considering OEM) ought to be CHEAPER? Out of interest, why do people think that building a PC without Windows should be inherently cheaper? Is it because they correctly factor in the cost of the OEM licence of Windows, but forget to take into account the subsidies and affiliate fees on offer from application software vendors and ISPs for pre-installing 'trial versions' and crippleware? Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Editing .db files
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:20:51 + From: javadayaz javada...@gmail.com To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Editing .db files Message-ID: aanlktimsk2tyeco2j-ihtavupvtmg89tx3txdcdmt...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, My podcast app on my android phone- Google Listen, saves any user data, playlists etc as a .db file. Is there anything i can use to open this file and edit the contents? Also if no options are available in the ubuntu universe i will also look at windows tools for this job. Assuming it is, as others have suggested, a SQLite file, then what I use is the Firefox addon SQLite Manager https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5817/ Hope this helps. Regards, Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[Bug 234228] Re: [needs-packaging] Rubyripper
Unfortunately, Andreas' repository doesn't support Maverick. You can get rubyripper from the GetDeb repository (http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/10.10/#how_to_install). From there just do the normal sudo apt-get install rubyripper. It's too bad that the bug mentioned in Sebastian's comment (#22) plagues this version. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/234228 Title: [needs-packaging] Rubyripper -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu mindshare....
For various reasons, I host my blog on wordpress.com rather than running my own Wordpress installation. They put an announcement on my admin page, about a holiday wallpaper they had commissioned. http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2010/12/21/wordpress-wallpaper/ Nothing odd here, just another American company trying to get a bit of publicity by spending a few dollars on an artist... ... then I read the line that started Need help changing your wallpaper? We have come a long way! It reads, for those who can't be bothered to click on the link: Here’s instructions for Ubuntuhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy#Wallpaper, Mac OS X http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2478, and Windowshttp://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/Change-your-desktop-background-wallpaper . Happy New Year, and hope to see some of you at the Design Museum. Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 68, Issue 16
The FAQ confused me a bit 'coz from ancient memory, the maximum allowable charge is something like US$6. Not at all. The whole point of the GPL is that, once you've got a copy, you can do whatever you like with it. If you want to modify it, you're free to... If you want to give away a copy, you're free to... If you want to install it on a 1000 PCs, you're free to... If you want to sell it for £5,000 a pop (and can find someone willing to pay that much), you're free to... ... what you have to do, however, is pass on the same freedoms to anyone else who gets a copy from you. So if you sell for a fiver, the person who buys from you can make 1000 copies and sell them for £100 each if they want to (and can find enough people willing to pay £100 a pop). Putting a restriction on it that no-one can charge more than $6 is a breach of the GPL, and forbidden! What we have to remember is that Ubuntu is a distribution - it takes lots of software that other people have written, and released under the GPL... and puts it all together in a way that ensures all the bits work together, and it's straightforward to install. The problem comes because, in English, the word FREE means both this and at zero charge. In most languages, two different words are used for the two different concepts. In French, for example, libre talks about freedom, and gratuit means that there is no charge... Alas, the Free Software Foundation throw around terms like unethical a lot. It's not clear to me that they have a particularly strong ethical case compared to, say, Bill Gates, whose company charges a lot of money for software but who personally donates billions to education and healthcare, and whose foundation is now widely regarded in the medical community as the most likely source of a cure for many types of cancer... This is why a lot of people in the Linux community find that going around talking about ethics is a very difficult set of conversations... while talking about reliability, cost-effectiveness, and supportability are all places where Linux in general, and Ubuntu in particular are winning a lot of ground! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 68, Issue 9
[5] it reads and writes all Microsoft files and anything from any Windows or Mac program. A genuine question here. A lot of MS Office files include large numbers of embedded macros. Is there something that will run these reliably? I realise that in some industries this is a wider issue than others, but in some industries, VBA macros are the way things are done industry-wide, not just company wide! M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 67, Issue 48
Remember that free delivery is not necessarily the best deal. Sometimes price + delivery from somewhere that charges delivery can be less than price from somewhere else with free delivery. Colin ..., and of course, that total price including delivery isn't always the best deal either. Sometimes, it's worth paying a few percent more to buy from a company that's reputable and offers service on something other than a £1/minute phone line :-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[Bug 569601] Re: unknown conduit in configure
I followed Matt Davey's posts #27 and #44 and my Palm Z22 synchronizes almost perfectly now. All conduits work (including the time conduit, which never worked in previous Ubuntu version) and, unlike all previous versions of Ubuntu, plugging my Palm into my computer doesn't crash the pda (even under 10.04, I would have to reset my pda 4 or 5 times after plugging it in before it would work). However, if I create new memos (EMemos conduit) or new contacts (EAddress conduit) through evolution, these don't get sent to my pda. New contacts and memos on my pda get transfered to evolution just fine. Thanks for your hard work. -- unknown conduit in configure https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/569601 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 67, Issue 28
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:56:46 + (GMT) From: Tony Scott to...@tonyscott.org.uk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Linux website - Feedback? To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: 726420.10698...@web29514.mail.ird.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Daniel Putting aside whether (yet) another such site is needed (as Alan has already commented), could I just point out the PHP script is not free - it appears to be propriety code that requires payment http://www.answerscript.com/order.html There are plenty of open source systems that could do this sort of job, including WordPress http://wordpress.org/ Surely using an FOSS system would be more appropriate for a Linux QA site? Cheers At the risk of being controversial. Now YOU are the one jumping to conclusions. Specifically, you are assuming that people use Linux because they care about FLOSS principles. While there are, undoubtably, many people who use Linux for that reason... ... there are many others who use Linux because it's cheap, just works and doesn't get viruses. One of the things that PUTS PEOPLE OFF Linux is the element in the community who preach them them about why they MUST use FLOSS software. To turn to the question of whether the world needs this: Whether or not there are genuinely 10,000 people a month with Linux problems who could use this site, I have no idea. That's the marvellous thing about freedom on the Internet - anyone can, for a few quid, set up a website of their own. Maybe this one will fail, but if the OpenSource movement has taught us anything, it's taught us that massive duplication of projects is overall a GOOD thing, because the good ideas from one feed into the next. And as for the URL giving the wrong message When did the LINUX community turn into the thought police? I thought it was only Apple that worried about things like that! Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 67, Issue 30
I do not actually agree with this, for the record. I think that the Linux commitment to Free Open Source Software (not sure what the 'L' stands for in Mark's acronym) From: Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Linux website - Feedback? [was: ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 67, Issue 28] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: 4ce55475.6080...@theopenlearningcentre.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 18/11/10 16:16, Sean Miller wrote: I do not actually agree with this, for the record. I think that the Linux commitment to Free Open Source Software (not sure what the 'L' stands for in Mark's acronym) it stands for Libre meaning freedom as opposed to the other sort of free which is means cheaper than cheap. That is the important meaning of Free, just in English the two meanings are expressed with one word, which is a bit unfortunate. The Liberty side of Free is what it is all about and that is where you will find the real business value of the software we are talking about. FLOSS was a term coined specifically to AVOID taking sides in the Free (Stallman) vs. OpenSource (Raymond) battle that seemed to dominate the movement in the 1990s (which is, after all, when I started using Linux.) The L stands for: - Libre (French/Spanish) - Livre (Portuguese) - Libero (Italian) The F stands for: - Free (English) - Frei (German) It's only English, by the way, that has the ambiguity problem with a single word - free - meaning either no charge or unrestricted, depending on who you ask. If pushed to decide between Free and OpenSource, I prefer OpenSource, because I find the arguments of Raymond (and to a lesser extent, Lessig) more compelling than Stallman... and I CERTAINLY stand with Linus on the question of which version of the GPL is most appropriate :-) However, 99 times out of 100, I would rather NOT get drawn into discussions about the meaning of free and rather talk about What Ubuntu can do for you... As such, I find Shuttleworth refreshing, and Ubuntu is, accordingly a good O/S for me for many, many, reasons. Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] The economics of books
I ought to point out here that I am an author. My original thing - a non-fiction, non-IT, 4-CD audiobook has NEVER been available as a printed book, since my publisher only does CDs (50 years ago tapes, and these days, MP3s as well as CDs, with tapes having finally gone about 5 years ago.) My second thing was conceived as a book, and I took the decision early on to self-publish. The reasons for this were: - It's aimed at a very small niche, and was never going to attract shelf space in the likes of Waterstones - The audio-book, and heavy publicity for that had allowed me (with the approval of, and indeed encouragement from, my publisher) to set up my own website with an opt-in mailing list for future announcements. This currently stands at about 3,000 names. - With the likes of Lulu.com, I could do everything as a PDF, but get a proper ISBN number, and have them do the deals with Amazon and WHSmiths (both of whom list my book on-line, but WHS don't carry in-store), in a way that gave me a far higher revenue share than I would have done had I used a conventional publisher. - The cost of hiring my own editor to work with me over the space of about six months, was about £5,000. I had to pay for that out of pocket. - Lulu, like a few other publishers, have server space and printing facilities inside Amazon's UK warehouse. This means that Amazon don't actually store copies of my book in any way other than on a fileserver. If you ordered today, for delivery tomorrow, it would be printed in-house on-demand. THIS is the key technology piece, by the way, that has transformed the backend of publishing for nice products. - AND THIS IS IMPORTANT. The revenue stream to me is NOT primarily about selling books. It's about the consultancy work and training courses I run, for which my book has been instrumental in establishing credibility and getting clients. (It's, as I've said before, very, very, niche.) However, the price at which I choose to have my publisher sell the book is entirely down to me. I have a cost price per print, but could, if I wanted, set a sale price of one penny above the cost price if I believed that the I also sell my book as a (non-DRM) PDF, from my website. I price that PDF to maximise my profit. It turns out that the price point that does that is about DOUBLE the price of the paperback version the same customer could get from Amazon. The difference is - they get the PDF by return email, the moment Paypal's servers confirm payment to mine (which is, in round terms, in real time as far as the customer is concerned.) As you might imagine, the website to do this (which runs on DAPPER, which gives you an idea of how long that server has been sitting there!) costs me, in round terms NOTHING. It has been up and running for several years, and sits on my home ADSL line (which has a static IP block, so I guess I do pay a bit more for my ADSL than a standard contract would be.) It runs on a Via-500 box, so equivalent to a Celeron 500, with an old hard disk. Here is where things get truly bizarre. I sell about twice as many ebook copies as I do paper copies, despite the difference in price... ... arguably, I sell more BECAUSE of the difference in price. The big cost is in AdWords. Yes, marketing is about 90% of the ongoing budget, with the production costs having been paid off about three years ago. The other 10% is a rough and ready allowance for the marginal cost of my book-keeper importing the transactions into our accounts software :-) So, why did I insist on zero-DRM. 1: Because I don't like DRM. I think that the e-version of something should be BETTER than the physical. 2: Because of how I make my money... it's not about book sales, it's about spin-off business that that generates. This is increasingly true for fiction authors as well, where book-signing and conference-slot fees can be big, if you can write a best-seller. It's ALWAYS been true for non-fiction, as far as I can tell. Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Does the OOo Enhanced Graphic Options extension work in Ubuntu 10.10?
Hi all, I'm hoping that someone can check whether a particular OOo extension works in Ubuntu 10.10? The reason I ask is twofold: - I'm writing a HOWTO about making customised invitations that can be printed at the local supermarket photo printer (by exporting as JPG) - The extension that you need to do this at a decent resolution - http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/EnhancedGraphicExportDialogs- is known to have issues with some Java VMs, and there isn't obviously a list of which Linux distributions work out of the box with it. I actually, because of the PC I had in front of me at the time, did this on Windows XP... but clearly I'd like the HOWTO to mention Linux in general, and Ubuntu in particular. Regards, Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Does the OOo Enhanced Graphic Options extension work in Ubuntu 10.10?
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 19:16:20 + From: Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Does the OOo Enhanced Graphic Options extension work in Ubuntu 10.10? To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: 4ccf1204.3090...@esdelle.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed - The extension that you need to do this at a decent resolution - http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/EnhancedGraphicExportDialogs - is known to have issues with some Java VMs, and there isn't obviously a list of which Linux distributions work out of the box with it. I've tried it without adding any OOo java stuff and it didn't work, it came up with an error message. However I then installed the openoffice.org-java-common package which appears to install openjdk, restarted OOo and tried installing it and it at least installed. I managed to export an Impress slide to JPG which worked okay. Hope this helps. Rob It does indeed, thank you. M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] External CAT5 (subject change for change of topic)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:47:42 +0100 From: Alan Pope a...@popey.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Powerline Recommendations To: bdr...@crosswire.org, UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: aanlkti=eeef3pwvvg3r2bdtmafvjzaq8nun6b5gp7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 22 October 2010 10:44, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote: I drilled throught the outside wall and have CAT5 all around the outside. ?Quick, easy, fast, secure ...almost certainly against building regs.. :) If it gets struck by lightning (a very real possibility given it's grounded via your PC/switch at each end, it could blow your entire network up. Armouring the cable may help though. Al. I've been active in the Home Automation market, both as a hobby and then professionally, since 1997, and have never encountered a lightning strike on external cable. External CAT on WALLS is very unlikely to be against building regs. Indeed, building regs are far more likely to frown on INTERNAL risers, because of the need to fire-break them every couple of storeys. As far as I'm aware, it poses no more risk than, say, a satellite dish. The way that lightning groundpaths work, the best thing you can do if you have external ethernet is to have an external TV aerial mounted higher :-) If you assume that any grounded point basically causes a cone below, that extends out about 1m for each 1m in height, and that anything inside the cone will broadly be safe (because lightning will have an easier path via the higher grounded item), that's a good rule of thumb. Actually, the biggest problem I've come across is the fact that ethernet cable sheathing doesn't have great U/V stability - it will degrade over about 7-10 years if it's left in direct sunlight. Hence, what we did (based on electrician's recommendation) was to put it in some external trunking. The sort that BQ (other DIY sheds are available) sell for air extract is good. Leave a vertical run with the bottom open, so that any water that gets in will run down the insides and drip out without puddling, but use a decent sealant where the cable goes back into the house. If anyone needs pictures, contact me (Mark AT Ascentium DOT co DOT -the-country-code-for-this-list ) and I'll mail some JPGs over. If you are very paranoid, then of course you need to be aware that ethernet is tappable, so if you have reason to believe that the security services are interested in your data, then you may want to keep those runs internal :-) Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[Bug 382267] Re: memory leak
Here's another valgrind log from running checkgmail for 24 hours. ** Attachment added: valgrind-log-checkgmail.tar.gz https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/checkgmail/+bug/382267/+attachment/1705660/+files/valgrind-log-checkgmail.tar.gz -- memory leak https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/382267 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 664137] [NEW] Clicking on links in email message body opens two pages
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: checkgmail This only started after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10. When i click on a link in the body of an email, the page linked to opens up in two windows. This happens when the Command to execute on clicking the tray icon is set to firefox %u. Clicking on the tray icon only opens up my gmail page once. When I change the Command to execute on clicking the tray icon to just firefox, clicking on a link in an email results in both my browser home page and the linked page opening. It seems that new code has been added to handle clicking on links in emails, but the old code that used to do this in previous versions (the one controlled by the Command to execute on clicking the tray icon option in the preferences menu) is also being activated. ** Affects: checkgmail (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Clicking on links in email message body opens two pages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/664137 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 65, Issue 53
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:48:50 +0100 From: Nigel Verity nigelver...@hotmail.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] OOO Base vs MS Access To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: col117-w4352e2283c70fb62494996a3...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Folks I was interested to read Glen Mehn's comments about OOO Base; effectively, brilliant but who uses it? [... lots of interesting comments removed ...] Nigel, I'm interested to read that people are still developing desktop databases at all! To me, the big move happened a few years ago, when there were suddenly a bunch of free, good, relational databases, and solid libraries in a variety of languages to acces (sic) them, and present the results to a browser client. I don't want to get bogged down in whether MySQL or Postgresss or insert name here is a better database... ... nor do I want to get into whether PHP, PERL, Ruby (with or without rails), of for that matter anything else is a good way to connect thereto. ... but in my experience, using ANY of those toolsets gives the benefits of: 1: Multi-user stuff 2: Simplified software distribution (don't have OOo? No problem. You want to use IceWeasel? That'll do nICEly.) Now, all of this may shout big corporate to you, but actually we do the same in our three-person consultancy - databases live on servers, not clients. (And, I'm proud to confirm, all our databases now run on Ubuntu servers, including one we've never upgraded and is still running Breezy as happily as the day it was installed!) What are the kind of applications for which you are finding a desktop DB to be the right solution? Regards, Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO
From: Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com of corse you can do it in OO, why the f**k would you want to use M$ Couple of things: 1: I've not used MS Office for about 5 years now, however the one time I needed to was in 2007 for a really complex mailmerge, which is one area where MSO is still better than OOo :-( There are lots of areas where OOo is genuinely better, in terms of functionality, as well as being free (in the cash sense). Actually, it's not quite Free in the OpenSource sense, if you read the Sun licence carefully :-) 2: I'm not sure you CAN do this in OOo - ie, create a link in a spreadsheet that then creates a pre-populated document in Writer. This wasn't a question about mailmerge, but about how to achieve a particular task. To be fair, I don't think that mailmerge in MSO is the right answer either, but given the user in question feels that mailmerge is too complex, I'm guessing that telling them that it needs about 20 lines of VBA macros probably isn't going to work either :-) 3: If you asked a question about OOo, and someone replied MSO can do this, why the f*** would you use OpenOffice instead, would you: A: Feel that the respondent had a good point, and you should go out and try MS Office. B: Feel that the respondent was a jerk, and that you wanted to steer clear of the kinds of things he was recommending. The reason I bring this up is that I had a meeting with the IT Director of a FTSE 100 company a couple of years ago, and that one of the things that came up was OpenOffice as a possible replacement for MSO. The reply I got was This is like Linux. I'm fed up of Linux people. They come in and want to have a religious conversation. I want to have a business conversation. This over-the-top, why the f would you stuff is actually DRIVING PEOPLE AWAY FROM LINUX. If I ran for Microsoft's Dirty Tricks Division, then I'd pay people to join LUG lists and post nasty comments about MS to make people feel that the Linux community were nutters :-) So, thanks for harming the spread of Free software. Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[Bug 499634] Re: Incorrect --exclude-from information in man page
** Changed in: rsync (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- Incorrect --exclude-from information in man page https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/499634 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[ubuntu-uk] A-levels (was Royal Society)
This is a genuine question to those currently / recently at Schoo/Uni. When I was choosing my A-levels (1987), there was a strong piece of advice for those who wanted to study Computing at Uni. That advice was don't bother with Computing A-Level, do Maths and Further Maths instead. This was on the basis that, at the time, the Universities were saying that they basically wanted to teach programming / analysis to people who had good experience at symbolic manipulation, and considered the A-level syllabus, as it was at the time, to be a bit of a waste of space. These days, has the world changed? If you are studying Computing at Uni (or aiming to do so), is the expectation that you would have done A-levels (A2,AS, whatever they are these days) first??? My experience, by the way, is that the people who are BEST at Programming, are those who've discovered it OUTSIDE of the formal teaching environment, and want to hack (in the old-fashioned sense) for the pleasure of doing so. For this (among many other things), we need to thank the Linux community for providing a set of tools allowing the potential programmer to get started. (Yes, I know you could get started with VB, but, while I've written a lot of code in it over the years, I don't think it's a great language in which to teach the fundamentals.) Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] School Curiculum WAS: Royal Society... IT is boring?
The Royal Society do, at least, appear to have someone on their advisory board who seems to understand the problem. From their website: Professor Matthew Harrison, Director of Education at The Royal Academy of Engineering said: “Young people have huge appetites for the computing devices they use outside of school. Yet ICT and Computer Science in school seem to turn these young people off. We need school curricula to engage them better if the next generation are to engineer technology and not just consume it”. (As far as I know, Matthew Harrison is no relation) :-) Mark Harrison -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[Bug 580352] [NEW] Firefox user agent reports wrong version number -- 3.0.6 instead of 3.6.3
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: firefox The version of Firefox installed with Lucid reports its version number to websites as 3.0.6 instead of 3.6.3. This can be seen when checking Help - About Mozilla Firefox (beneath the copyright information), http://whatsmyuseragent.com/, and https://addons.mozilla.org/ This is a problem because many add-ons (for example, this one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/14228/ ) cannot be installed on Firefox 3.0.6, even though the installed version in Lucid is 3.6.3. The Add to Firefox button is disabled with a note beneath it saying Not available for Firefox 3.0.6. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04 Package: firefox 3.6.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu4 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-22.33-generic 2.6.32.11+drm33.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.32-22-generic i686 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Architecture: i386 Date: Thu May 13 23:43:43 2010 FirefoxPackages: firefox 3.6.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu4 firefox-gnome-support 3.6.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu4 firefox-branding 3.6.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu4 abroswer N/A abrowser-branding N/A ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, user) LANG=en_US.utf8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: firefox ** Affects: firefox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug i386 lucid -- Firefox user agent reports wrong version number -- 3.0.6 instead of 3.6.3 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/580352 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 580352] Re: Firefox user agent reports wrong version number -- 3.0.6 instead of 3.6.3
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48429572/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: ExtensionSummary.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48429573/ExtensionSummary.txt ** Attachment added: profile_default_pluginreg.dat.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48429574/profile_default_pluginreg.dat.txt ** Attachment added: profiles.ini.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48429575/profiles.ini.txt -- Firefox user agent reports wrong version number -- 3.0.6 instead of 3.6.3 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/580352 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 580352] Re: Firefox user agent reports wrong version number -- 3.0.6 instead of 3.6.3
The new profile did have the correct version number. Resetting the general.useragent.extra.firefox value in my own profile fixed the problem. I checked my backups and the general.useragent.extra.firefox value was modified Ant.com Video Downloader addon a long time ago while I was using Jaunty. I think this caused the general.useragent.extra.firefox to be marked as user set and not updated to reflect new versions (I'm assuming user set values in about:config are not changed by upgrades). Even after I uninstalled the addon, the version number was never changed through two Ubuntu and Firefox upgrades. Thanks for your help. -- Firefox user agent reports wrong version number -- 3.0.6 instead of 3.6.3 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/580352 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 499634] [NEW] Incorrect --exclude-from information in man page
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: rsync In rsync's man page (version 3.0.6 under Ubuntu 9.10), it is stated that the command line option for excluding files and directories list in a file is as follows: --exclude-from=FILE This does not work and causes FILE to be ignored. The syntax that works is as follows: --exclude-from FILE with a space instead of an equals sign. The code or man page need to be fixed so that they are consistent with each other. ** Affects: rsync (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Incorrect --exclude-from information in man page https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/499634 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 479043] Re: nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in applet_get_exported_connection_for_device()
** Visibility changed to: Private -- nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in applet_get_exported_connection_for_device() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/479043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 479043] Re: nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in applet_get_exported_connection_for_device()
** Attachment added: CoreDump.gz http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409262/CoreDump.gz ** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409263/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: Disassembly.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409264/Disassembly.txt ** Attachment added: Gconf.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409265/Gconf.txt ** Attachment added: IpAddr.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409266/IpAddr.txt ** Attachment added: IwConfig.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409267/IwConfig.txt ** Attachment added: NetDevice.eth0.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409268/NetDevice.eth0.txt ** Attachment added: NetDevice.lo.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409269/NetDevice.lo.txt ** Attachment added: NetDevice.vboxnet0.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409270/NetDevice.vboxnet0.txt ** Attachment added: NetDevice.wlan0.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409271/NetDevice.wlan0.txt ** Attachment added: NetDevice.wmaster0.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409272/NetDevice.wmaster0.txt ** Attachment added: ProcMaps.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409273/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: ProcStatus.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409274/ProcStatus.txt ** Attachment added: Registers.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409275/Registers.txt ** Attachment added: Stacktrace.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409276/Stacktrace.txt ** Attachment added: ThreadStacktrace.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409277/ThreadStacktrace.txt ** Attachment added: WifiSyslog.gz http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409278/WifiSyslog.gz ** Attachment added: XsessionErrors.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409279/XsessionErrors.txt ** Attachment added: nm-system-settings.conf.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35409280/nm-system-settings.conf.txt ** Visibility changed to: Public -- nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in applet_get_exported_connection_for_device() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/479043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 478335] Re: gpilot-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch()
** Attachment added: CoreDump.gz http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35365321/CoreDump.gz ** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35365322/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: Disassembly.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35365323/Disassembly.txt ** Attachment added: ProcMaps.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35365324/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: ProcStatus.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35365325/ProcStatus.txt ** Attachment added: Registers.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35365326/Registers.txt ** Attachment added: Stacktrace.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35365327/Stacktrace.txt ** Attachment added: ThreadStacktrace.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35365328/ThreadStacktrace.txt ** Visibility changed to: Public -- gpilot-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 175191] Re: f-spot changes timestamp in an incorrect way
For anyone who needs to restore the original EXIF dates and times without restoring from backup, the following command should do it. exiftool -r -CreateDateDateTimeOriginal *.jpg (-r option for recursing into lower directories) Taken from this comment at Gnome Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340903#c19 -- f-spot changes timestamp in an incorrect way https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/175191 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 139776] Re: Does not support filenames with whitespace
This error is still present in jaunty and can be confirmed by using the same procedure described by Nikolaus. The error was fixed by the maintainer in September 2007 with version 3.21. The current version of latexmk is 4.08 which was released on June 23 of this year. For some reason, the version in the ubuntu repositories is 3.07, which is over 5 years old. The simplest solution seems to be upgrading the version in the repositories. Until then, the easiest fix for users is to install the latest version from CTAN or the maintainer's website. I've tested this version and filenames with whitespace no longer present a problem. Maintainer's version history: http://www.phys.psu.edu/~collins/software/latexmk-jcc/versions.html Maintainer's website: http://www.phys.psu.edu/~collins/software/latexmk-jcc/ CTAN source: http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/support/latexmk/ -- Does not support filenames with whitespace https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139776 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 139776] Re: Does not support filenames with whitespace
** Changed in: latexmk (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- Does not support filenames with whitespace https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139776 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 229344] Re: Slow startup after upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04
CheckGmail works perfectly well in Intrepid for me. Startup takes about a second plus another few seconds to connect to Gmail. Opening Preferences is also fast again. -- Slow startup after upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/229344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 216505] Re: Clock: World time menu expands beyond screen borders
** Changed in: ubuntu Status: New = Confirmed -- Clock: World time menu expands beyond screen borders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/216505 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 229344] [NEW] Slow startup after upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: checkgmail After upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04, checkgmail 1.13-1ubuntu1 now takes about 30 seconds to start up (compared with one or two seconds on 7.10), during which time one of my processors (I run a dual-core AMD64) is pegged at 100% capacity. When I open the preferences dialog, it takes about 10 seconds to open and again pegs a processor at 100%. The same occurs after pressing 'OK' before the window closes. All of the email functions still function quickly: checking email, opening firefox, performing actions on emails from the drop-down preview, etc. This didn't happen before when I ran 7.10. I've tried reinstalling and the problem persists. The odd thing is that this does not happen on my laptop, which is a three-year-old single processor (Intel) machine that also runs 8.04. On this older computer, startup, shutdown, and opening the preferences menu are quick. ** Affects: checkgmail (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Slow startup after upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/229344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 216505] Re: Clock: World time menu expands beyond screen borders
I can confirm this behavior in Hardy Heron. Attached to this message is a screen shot of the problem. Notice that the right side of this menu is cut off. This is due to it being off the edge of the screen. ** Attachment added: Screenshot-2.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14416854/Screenshot-2.png -- Clock: World time menu expands beyond screen borders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/216505 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[ubuntu-uk] Goodbye all
Just a quick note to say Goodbye to all those doing good work with Ubuntu. However, I'm afraid that given that appears acceptable behaviour on this list to make accusations of exploitation and corruption, and present that in language of a sexual nature, I no longer wish to be a part of this community. M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids
Chris Rowson wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 22:38 +, Chris Rowson wrote: I'm hope you see me as an exploiter of innocent children for posting this here. To be honest though, I don't have an agenda or petty points to make. Despite writing in rant mode, without remembering to include the customary rant/rant tags I didn't mean to write that. Strangely I actually hope that people DO NOT see me as an exploiter of innocent children! Chris Chris, Sorry, but I am offended by the choice of language like Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids. Are you actually accusing Ballmer of sexual exploitation of vulnerable people? Or are you saying that selling Western products to African nations is the moral equivalent thereof? Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!
Hi, I'm calling back. Your tech support guy told me to re-install Windows, but the PC is switching off before it starts the install... M. Alec Wright wrote: Or so Evesham tech support say... Here's what happened: Whenever I switched my computer on, it would switch off within five seconds or so. If I switch it on again, it will switch off again even more quickly. It doesn't even get to detecting disk drives, let alone booting an operating system. It even does it with all of the disk drives unplugged. I phoned Evesham tech support, and they immediately said it was a windows driver problem. When I told him it didn't have windows on it, but had Linux on it, he put me on hold for a few minutes. When he got back, he told me that he couldn't fix the HARDWARE problem because it runs Linux. He told me to reinstall windows and phone back... Well that's gonna be fun when it cant stay on for more than five seconds... Just thought you guys might be interested -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux mysteriously broke my computer!
Rob Beard wrote: Last time I found something like that it was a faulty motherboard which the temperature sensor was reporting the CPU (a Duron 700) was running at 199 degrees! I'd say they're fobbing you off somewhat. Funny, I remember the days when Evesham stood for quality. Does it not stand for that now? Rob The corporate sales side of their business started going downhill in about 1995 when they fired Hans Retz. The best store used to be MK, particularly when Stuart Moore and Chris Fella were working there on Saturdays :-( I bought about 500 PCs from Evesham over the space of three years in the early 90s (as part of my job, obviously - I don't have THAT many PCs at home :-) ) I've not used them since about 2000, since I'd seen them progressively get worse. M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids
Chris Rowson wrote: I just read this. Sickening isn't it! Not to me it isn't. The Nigerian government aren't complaining. The Nigerian people aren't complaining. [Or if they are, someone post a link and tell me about what] In fact, the person who's complaining in this article is the guy who came in second in a procurement round, and he's throwing mud around and hoping some of it sticks. I'm well aware that Microsoft have played dirty in the past, but I believe in this pesky little thing called any evidence whatsoever before assuming that somehow children are being screwed over. I don't use Ubuntu because I somehow think that it's truth justice and righteousness I use it because it's better What I _do_ find offensive is the fact that some people are jumping in the kids are getting screwed bandwagon, and will try to exploit the images of some of the worlds most vulnerable people to make their own petty points about free software. One of the reasons I like Ubuntu is that Canonical seem to have a policy of NOT descending to this kind of game, and concentrating on making Linux BETTER. That I can respect. Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Profile
John Levin wrote: LeeGroups wrote: I seriously don't get why people 'think everything just works' in Windows... Most people aren't interested in arguments about whether Windows has similar problems. Most people aren't interested in upgrading Operating Systems. Most people encounter Vista when buying a new PC. Most people encounter Ubuntu when installing a new O/S onto an existing PC. Solution 1: Get more people to make, sell and support PCs with Ubuntu pre-installed. (Including voting with our wallets and making the likes of Dell and Tesco take notice that we WILL purchase such things.) Solution 2: Continually improve Ubuntu so that it just works more of the time. Ubuntu, is, in my experience, #1 in the world at the moment for just working... but it will only stay there if the mind-set is great, we're #1, now how can we make it even better, rather than OK, now we're #1, no need to improve. M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Solid State hard disks?
Alan Pope wrote: Hi Mark, On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 18:52 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: Do you know if they're available outside the USA? I couldn't work out how to spec one up on the UK Dell website :-( I don't know about models, but I just searched for ssd on the uk site and found the individual disk itself. Cheers, Al. D'oh... I'd been searching for the particularly laptop models, and not thought to search for just the disk :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best ISP?
James Grabham wrote: I'm with them at the moment but am considering a move to TalkTalk, which appears to be outstanding value and available in my area: any horror stories with them? My brother was completely without phone service (let alone ADSL) for about a week after moving to them. The fault ultimately proved to be a local bit of flooding inside his local telco sub-exchange... however, the fact that TalkTalk had unbundled his local loop meant that he had no mechanism to get BT out to test the line (which they needed to do twice before discovering a foot of water!) because he had no contract with them. TalkTalk were, apparantly, eventually able to resolve the problem, but at premium rates all the way (from his mobile, under the circumstances) trying to explain that yes, he had real problems. Bottom line - ISPs with crap / expensive support can provide better / cheaper monthly rates PROVIDED everything works. M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Solid State hard disks?
Alan Pope wrote: Hi, On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 15:45 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: Does anyone know where (whether?) it's possible to get solid-state disks in a format that has an IDE / SATA cable attached? Dell actually sell laptops with 36GB SSD now. http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3658 Cheers, Al. Do you know if they're available outside the USA? I couldn't work out how to spec one up on the UK Dell website :-( M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices - promoting the message?
A few thoughts here: - The BBC aren't dumb. If people are constantly re-voting for the same option, they'll notice, and if Linux people are doing that more than the rest, they'll probably start looking askance at ANY figures that show Linux adoption. - While it's not unknown for broadcasters to show fixed results, it seems unlikely in this case, and to a certain extent it's not about what the punters see, but what the internal BBC execs will see... so please vote if you haven't. - I've posted a quick link to the poll on another Linux-related list that hasn't already mentioned it. If you are a member of your local Lug list (and if not, why not?) and they haven't started talking about it, feel free to spread the link :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What mail client do people use.
Dave Morley wrote: I used to hate using Evolution but since I last used it to the release in Gutsy things have improved greatly. The whole experience is a pleasure. So I just wondered what everyone else uses? I use Thunderbird, so I have a consistent mail experience whether I'm on a Linux PC or a Windows one. All the mail lives on an IMAP server running Breezy, which has kind of proved stable :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] LOLKittens in ubuntu pose
Surely a LolCats style caption competition is needed? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolcats (for those who have no idea what I'm talking about). So, your starter captions: I is not paying Microsoft Now We is Shuttleworths kittenz We is huntin that red rat wot you told us of M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK
IMPORTANT NOTE I am acting like a typical PR Flack in this. As far as I'm aware, NONE of the quotes I've made up for Alan have actually been said... Normal practice with PR stuff is for the PR flack to make them up, then ask the person being quoted if that's OK :-) ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE This is deliberately aimed at people who DON'T know much about computers. You may wince at some of the things I say... but now imagine that you didn't care about IT, and see whether it sounds compelling :-) NOTE 3: I'm also deliberately making it a future event, so it feels like new to be reported on, rather than same old, same old. London, 21st October 2007 The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective from 1st November, it will be offering free technical support to users of selected Tescos PC, at centres up and down the country. The PCs in question run Ubuntu, a free alternative to Microsoft Windows, including both office software (word processor, spreadsheet and presentation program) as well as tools for Internet surfing and home users. Alan Pope, the recently elected Point of Contact for the UK community explains the benefits: This is dramatically reducing the price that people are paying for PCs. Ubuntu is a great alternative to Microsoft Windows for web users. We understand that Tescos chose it, not just on price, but because they found it to be less prone to virus attacks. Until now, the software has only been available from web-based retailers such as Dell, or for download, but most people with Windows pre-installed on a PC haven't seen the need to change. Mark Harrison, an IT Director based in Sussex, explains. With a copy of Vista coming in at about £180 from PC World, you can see why people want to stick with what they've already paid for rather than change. However, with Tesco now selling a PC base unit at under £140, it's an ideal solution for people who've already got a monitor, but need a faster PC to cope with broadband. Support has been the problem though, since most people are familiar with the Microsoft software. This is where the Ubuntu community comes in. Pope adds: What we're doing is offering free support to everyone with Ubuntu... whether they downloaded it for themselves, or bought it with a Dell or Tesco PC. We've teamed up with the local Linux User Groups to provide face-to-face support on Ubuntu up and down the UK, ideal for people who don't like the idea of trying to get support over the Internet. Press Contact: Presumably Alan, presumably a special page on the Wiki about where people can get help (just a link to the LUGs) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK
Dougie Richardson wrote: 1. How would the cost of travel be covered? I'm all for volunteering but not if it starts to cost my significantly in expenses. Well, I have to say, I'd considered that this wasn't really us doing anything new beyond what we're already doing... More us realising that the demographic of the Ubuntu-using community is at a tipping point, and trying to make sure that people realise that Ubuntu-UK exists as a community (and help to promote Ubuntu in the process.) 2. How would Canonical feel about this? Essentially we would be reducing their oppertunity for any kind of commercial support option that might be considered in conjunction with Tesco. I'll stick in some boiler-plate about This initiative is a community project staffed by volunteers keen to help bridge the digital divide, and not endorsed by Tesco or Canonical (the makers of Ubuntu). M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Disappointed
Skeg Fast wrote: To Whom It May Concern, [... Parody of Windows upgrade ...] ROFL - well done. I was taken in by the subject line and first line. Excellent spoof. So, somebody (Popey?) please pass on my thanks to all that you can :D Amen to that. I'm, now running Gutsy in a VM under XP-MCE... which even for such an esoteric requirement was WAY easier than doing the same on Feisty :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future
Tony Arnold wrote: Mark, On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 11:10 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: Mark Harrison, BA, MA, MBCS and could get be CITP if I ever got around to filling in the paperwork and sending off the cheque :-) Interesting! I'm sure my CITP just arrived in the post one day! Regards, Tony Arnold, BSc, MBCS, CITP. The issues are that 1: I have a BA in Mathematics and Computation, not a BSc... and 2: it's been 10 years since I worked for an employer that ran a BCS-approved CPD scheme, so basically I have to self-cert that period :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which do you use?
Alan Pope wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 17:30 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: 1: Moet was actually a Belgium (and there should be an umlaut over the e, but I can't work out how) 2: Freddie Mercury had an evil sense of humour, and the Killer Queen was MEANT to be a bit trashy :-) You really do know a lot of [Useful / Useless]* (delete as applicable) stuff, don't you. :) Cheers, Al. I learnt THAT at University... your tax dollars at work, as the saying goes :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Disc duplication - anyone know any places that can do it cheap?
ged wrote: Link to duplicating machines at scan. The auto loaders start to get a little expensive. http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Products.ASP?CatID=12FilterCategories=416Thumbnails=yes Regards Ged Yeah - I've come close to buying one of these a few times, though probably from aprmedia who supply all our media because I've found them very, very, reliable (in a way that Scan isn't), and specialist in this field. The reason I've always held off is that the labour-intensive part has always been PRINTING the disks, not getting the data onto them... and the duplicators with robot arms that do THAT as well start at a few grand :-( M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which do you use?
Peter Lewis wrote: But even withing the yes, pronounce the G camp, there are two schools of thought: - Guh-nome (like GNU) - Gee-nome (like the human Genome project) LOL. Actually, it's worth noting that, until the famous song by Flanders and Swann, the animal the gnu had a silent g. While I'm giving trivia, the famous Champagne firm is mow et with a hard t... not mow ay ... and Chandon. This is because: 1: Moet was actually a Belgium (and there should be an umlaut over the e, but I can't work out how) 2: Freddie Mercury had an evil sense of humour, and the Killer Queen was MEANT to be a bit trashy :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Disc duplication - anyone know any places that can do it cheap?
On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 20:49 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: When I was looking into this before I figured it was rather expensive, even when using cheap 9p CD-R discs (when factoring in duplication of many thousands of discs, printing etc). I was wondering though if anyone knew of a good duplication company who could take an ISO image, make a glass master disc and then professionally press and print a whole load of CDs (like what we get with the original Ubuntu discs). Rob, As it happens, I was with a disk publisher today sorting out a new audiobook series I've done for them. Sadly, they don't do duplication for other people, just their own stuff, but given I was getting the factory tour I spent a bit of time in the production room. They have moved AWAY from the cheap disks, and moved onto the Sony ones... ... because in the last million they produced on Sony media, 6 failed ! The break-point in producing glass masters seems to be around the 500 disk mark - beneath that, big robotic duplication machines that are basically a stack of DVD-R drivers, a printer, and a robot arm to move disks between them (about 6 drives per printer seems to be the balance for speed purposes) are the way they go. The biggest cost they were facing was full-colour printing, which actually cost MORE than the disks themselves. They've, again, moved to a high-end system that literally has 7 ink wells connected to the beast by tubes that they literally refill from bottles live. Oh, and the fancy machines also connected to a 4 Tb over Gb ethernet, so they could just pick any image, enter the number they wanted produced, and click go. I was, it must be admitted envious :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Interesting article - Why don't Windows users switch to Macs we could learn from
Interesting article at Zdnet about why Windows Users don't switch to Mac. http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=847tag=nl.e539 One of the core reasons that the author quotes is: The Linux effect The “anything but Microsoft” card that Apple is playing is losing traction given that Linux distros are now becoming a credible alternative. Why pay for a Mac when you can load Linux onto your existing rig and still be rid of Microsoft? Also, the Linux communities seem to be far more open and trustworthy that Apple is being as of late. One of the reasons that he also quotes is that the Microsoft-bashing in the Mac camp is putting Windows users off. Well worth a read - interesting to see that WE are seen as a big reason why people aren't turning to Apple any more :-) Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How 'Gnu' are you?
Various wrote: andylockran - 15 non-free packages, 1.1% of 1381 installed packages. wulfy - 30 non-free packages, 1.8% of 1681 installed packages. Mark Harrison - 0 non-free packages installed! (0%) rms would be proud. M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ubuntu-marketing] countdown for gutsy
I think it would be good to have an idea of how many ubuntu-uk people are doing this. Would it be appropriate to put a page on the wiki where people could add links to their sites (sites showing this banner only.) Clearly someone would need to write some weasel words making it clear that Ubuntu-UK didn't ENDORSE any of these sites, they were just there as an example of the kinds of things Ubuntu was used for? M. Chris Rowson wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2 Oct 2007 22:16 Subject: [ubuntu-marketing] countdown for gutsy To: ubuntu-marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fridge editors [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I've recently added a countdown script to the www.ubuntu.com homepage. You'll see in very very tiny lettering near the bottom right of it there is a link for others to add a counter like it to their homepages. That link takes them to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown that contains brief instructions and the two lines of code needed to use the counter. There's no tracking, cookies, web bugs or anything mischievous here... it's just a bit of javascript that calculates the date and shows the appropriate image. We'd really like to get this out, so could a fridge team member put this on the fridge and could the marketing team spread the word through their channels? Gerry, Kat and Matt (me) would really appreciate it. It should help build up the excitement as we approach the 7.10 release. -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a laptop with a broken screen as my home server. Got it for free from a family member but they are dirt cheap and fleabay. Its got 80GB storage, integrated UPS, (very) low power consumption and with speedstep enabled on the CPU and laptop-mode enabled on the hard disk its very quiet. Ideal home server even if I say so myself ;). Of course it can't do stuff like be a MythTV backend but it streams media happily enough. Oh and it has wifi built in so I can put it anywhere with a power outlet. (on a shelf somewhere or in a cupboard. I have a number of mates who install home automation stuff (web control of lights, multi-room audio and so on.) Quite a few of them have moved to laptops for the home control servers because of their ability to handle short power outages gracefully! For my home servers, I use some Via ITX stuff from www.linitx.com M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux
Mac wrote: I hope we can just assume this is FUD. Does anyone more familiar with server security have anything consoling thoughts? I seriously hope that we DON'T assume this is FUD. I think that Alan has summed up the key issue nicely. Anyone who goes around saying Linux is secure, Windows isn't is, I'm afraid, setting themselves up for a MASSIVE egg-on-face incident. What we CAN say is that Ubuntu contains a good set of tools to keep machines secure that are free. You don't need to worry about installing three different update packages, each with a monthly subscription fee. M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Citizens rejoice! Your Lord and Master stands on high, playing track 3.
Matthew Larsen wrote: YES a Hitchhikers reference!! Thats the first one i've seen on this list! OK, see if you can guess what this proves: Without looking, it's hanging on the second peg from the right on the door of my en-suite. :-) Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
The question is quite simply do you want the election to be held again, yes or no? I don't recognise the authority of this list as the right place to ask that question :-) Note to the hard of thinking - that was sarcasm, OK. I am AMAZED at how much MORE traffic something relatively simple, like electing a well-respected, experienced Ubuntu Advocate to be PoC has generated... relative to stuff like, say, the launch coming up in 2 weeks time. M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Citizens rejoice! Your Lord and Master stands on high, playing track 3.
Alan Pope wrote: Hi Mark, On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 09:47 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: Matthew Larsen wrote: YES a Hitchhikers reference!! Thats the first one i've seen on this list! OK, see if you can guess what this proves: Without looking, it's hanging on the second peg from the right on the door of my en-suite. You keep your anorak where your towel should be? Cheers, Al. /me wonders whether it's too late to change his vote :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small TFT monitors....
Dave Walker wrote: Mark, I'm disappointed, true geeks do it 'blind' and hope they are typing the correct commands! :) Seriously tho, I would consider ebay - ie Item:180163351414 Kind Regards, Dave Walker Dave, Thanks for the link - I've bid, but the pricing is already up close to new, guaranteed, so dropped out. For the record, I am aware of Google / Kelkoo... the reason that I'm asking a human list on which I know there are people with similar setups to mine rather than using Google / Kelkoo is to get personal recommendation for a PRODUCT, not advice on which search engine to use! M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Tag Lines?
Pete Stean wrote: Mat, your lolcat phrase was slightly off there... You said: Ubuntu - can I has cheesburger It should be: Ubuntu - haz cheesburger! *nom nom nom* :) Pete Ubuntu - all your base are NOT belong to us -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Citizens rejoice! Your Lord and Master stands on high, playing track 3.
Alan Pope wrote: Some people voted and by a nose I seem to have won the post of Point of Contact for the Ubuntu-UK LoCo Team. Hail to the Chief. Say (Well done Alan); Case: Alan carries on in the tradition of democracy Do Agree (Alan, 90% of the time); Case: Alan turns Ubuntu-UK into a fascist dictatorship Do: Volunteer (Head of Secret Police); :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] EU-topia? No Windows in EU ? Should we contribute?
Chris Jones wrote: Hi Kris Douglas wrote: No windows in the European union? No it's just a very misguided suggestion that no PC should ship with an OS pre-installed. It just means more pain for users and no gain for anyone else. Cheers, Chris, I'm with you on this. It is hard to see where other EU Directives of a similar nature (for example, the legislation around servicing for motor vehicles by non-franchised dealers) has ACTUALLY led to an improvement for customers. I also have trouble with the economics of No Windows licence means much cheaper PC. The big vendors pay little for their Windows licences - and in some cases make MORE from the CrippleWare fees they charge than they actually have to pay out for the O/S licence - so a fair cost solution would actually make Windows+Crippleware CHEAPER than Linux. Dell are, of course, to be applauded for what they've done. Both in REDUCING the price of a non-Windows PC and providing such an option in the first place. Of course, what I'd REALLY like to see is machines installed dual-booting between Ubuntu and a 30-day trial version of Windows at the end of which, the user either paid an extra £xxx or went with Ubuntu. Regards, Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing
Alan Pope wrote: Hi, On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 08:26 +0200, Sakjur wrote: Why don't you use the diffrent advantages of the diffrent editors? Like mix them... Is it speciall fileformats for the diffrent editors? Imagine using 3 different word processors to produce a document. One because it lets you do bold, one because it does tables and another because it saves in the right format. You would have to keep switching between the applications. It would be incredibly inefficient and frustrating. I would love to see just one decent video editor on Linux. There are loads on Windows and Mac :( I agree with you up to a point... However, I don't know that the Windows world of video editing is so much better... At the moment my (work-related) video editing / DVD mastering is done in the Windows world... and I've worked out that I actually use _4_ different applications to make the average DVD. - Adobe Audition for the audio tracks - Adobe Premier for the Video editing itself - MS Paint (kid you not) for rendering simply JPGs for use as titles :-) - Adobe Encore for generating DVD menu structures - Oh, and theoretically I use Adobe Media encoder to do the rendering, but it's so well integrated with Premier these days I don't think of it as a separate application as such, just a popup options box within Premier. At the moment, I see good free / OSS alternatives to Audition and MS Paint... but stick with what's there because I know them well, can drive them very, very, quickly, and there's still one area (fourier noise reduction) where the proprietary software has an edge technically. Regards, Mark Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Software verses Hardware raid (was RE:Anyone evertried kolab on feisty)
Alan Pope wrote: The conclusion they came up with was that for 99.9% of scenarios hardware 99.9% of scenarios that don't match what 99.9% of people here will see :) Indeed. I believe the original Mad Max film had a line that summed it up perfectly. Sadly, I can't find the original quote, so must have got a word or two wrong, but it was along the lines of: Speed's all a matter of how much you're prepared to pay. (OK, in this case, resilience also, but Alan's point it well made about either.) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help buying a LCD TV
Daniel, I have a 32 Loewe CRT TV... and the picture quality is likewise amazing. What are prices on the LCDs? If they're anything like the £300 specified, then I'd be very tempted... but I fear not :-( M. Daniel Lamb wrote: I'm using a 32 Loewe LCD TV, just using the vga input from my kubuntu pc, the picture quality is amazing, and that’s juts running a 32mb graphics card, usually im getting a better picture on the tv than on my laptop! Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Bagnall Sent: 26 September 2007 09:00 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help buying a LCD TV STONE COLD wrote: I want to buy a 32 LCD TV . my budget is £300. ive got my eye on this http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=26610 0CatId=958 http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2661 00CatId=958 Is this any good? any alternatives? That all looks ok, another one with similar specs is http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Displays/Televisions/32%22/32%22+Hannspree+HD +Xv32+TFT-TV+?productId=27095 I'm using a Digimate LTV-3210h 32 hdtv as my monitor and it works great. Just be warned you'll need a vga cable or HDMI - DVI cable. If going for the latter cable option be aware that I couldnt get it to work correctly under Ubuntu using an NVidia graphics card. VGA cable works fine though. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help buying a LCD TV
They're German. The concept of high end TVs has been common in parts of the continent for many years. While the UK and Italy had domestic hi-fi manufacturers, Germany had domestic hi-telly manufacturers. They really came into the UK in the 1990s, in partnership with Linn (the Glasgow hi-fi manufacturer). Indeed, Linn produced a Loewe-badged version of the Kielidh loudspeaker for the German market, as well as acting as their master distributor in the UK. They're the kind of telly you really need to go and look at, rather than buying off a website... The CRTs, which are the generation I know well, were (to my eyes) absolutely superb picture-wise. 100hz processing years before the mainstream brands did so. I don't know much about their LCDs at all - other than that I saw them at the CEDIA show last year, and they looked good (but in a show environment, on a single-brand stand, it's hard to tell.) One thing you may find, if the CRTs are anything to go by, is that the picture looks slightly dim by comparison. This is in part, because the Japanese TV manufacturers, Sony in particular, set the defaults to high brightness, high colour saturation so that their pictures stand out on a shelf at Comet... The Loewe defaults are set to reproduce skin tone accurately :-) Oh, and one final thing - it's pronouced Lur - Vur, assonant with Per-vert (sorry, couldn't think of a better word to show the vowel sounds) and NOT Loo - Vay, despite what the salesdroid in John Lewis in High Wycombe may try to tell you :-) In case you're wondering how I know all this, I'm old enough and public school enough to have been an old-fashioned hi-fi enthusiast, but young enough and open-minded enough to have jumped to the multi-channel audio world in the mid-90s :-) Hell, I even had a laserdisk player for a few years, before DVDs came out :-) Mark STONE COLD wrote: Id not even heard of this brand until you mentioned it. just been on their website and their tv's look really nice..im seriously contemplating buying it now!!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:12:23 +0100 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help buying a LCD TV If you can find a dealer they might have ld stock round about £500 as I know they were selling them off. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Harrison Sent: 26 September 2007 10:52 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help buying a LCD TV Daniel, I have a 32 Loewe CRT TV... and the picture quality is likewise amazing. What are prices on the LCDs? If they're anything like the £300 specified, then I'd be very tempted... but I fear not :-( M. Daniel Lamb wrote: I'm using a 32 Loewe LCD TV, just using the vga input from my kubuntu pc, the picture quality is amazing, and that’s juts running a 32mb graphics card, usually im getting a better picture on the tv than on my laptop! Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Bagnall Sent: 26 September 2007 09:00 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help buying a LCD TV STONE COLD wrote: I want to buy a 32 LCD TV . my budget is £300. ive got my eye on this http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=26610 0CatId=958 http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2661 00CatId=958 Is this any good? any alternatives? That all looks ok, another one with similar specs is http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Displays/Televisions/32%22/32%22+Hannspree+HD +Xv32+TFT-TV+?productId=27095 I'm using a Digimate LTV-3210h 32 hdtv as my monitor and it works great. Just be warned you'll need a vga cable or HDMI - DVI cable. If going for the latter cable option be aware that I couldnt get it to work correctly under Ubuntu using an NVidia graphics card. VGA cable works fine though. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Repositories for Breezy
I need to install another package on an otherwise-working-fine-and-stable breezy server. I notice that they've gone from gb.archive.ubuntu.com are they still out there somewhere? M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu - UK Contact - has there been enough time for candidates to come forward?
As far as I'm concerned there has. I was concerned after the first few days, that NO-ONE had thrown their hat into the ring, so I added my own name and a brief bio. There are now two other people forward... and I consider that either of them would do the job better than I. Accordingly, I've amended the Wiki to announce my withdrawal. (It's a long and honourable tradition that goes back all the way to Perot himself :-) ). M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] External hard disks and backup strategies
Backups are not archives in my world :-) So, relating to the home network, not the work one: - I have a home network with a few machines - All data gets stored on a server - I have an external USB hard disk - Once an HOUR, the server copies everything over to the USB drive (rsync is your friend) - Once an hour, at the other half of the hour, the server copies work info over to an ultra-low power PC, also running Ubuntu, so I have a third copy of that. Work info is, in round terms, everything except Ripped Audio... ... so it DOES include my photos, and audio from my own products / podcast, etc. Oh... and I also have two filing cabinets for originals of bank statements / mortgage / tax returns / etc. :-) Mark David M wrote: Hi, Now that external hard disks are cheap, I'm thinking about getting an external hard disk so that I can keep a backup of my data. In fact, I'm even thinking of getting *two* for alternate use so that if the worst should happen and my system dies while backing up my data I haven't toasted both my data and my sole backup.. When it comes to external disks, it seems I have the choice of not only a plain-old hard disk connected via USB, but also the possibility of NAS (networked-attached storage) where the hard disk is connected to my network, and contains a stripped-down OS so that it presents itself as a fileserver (I presume?). Does anybody know how well-supported either of these technologies are in Ubuntu? In particular, I'd also want to format the disk in ext3 format as I have no need or desire for MSWindows filesystems. On the one hand, NAS seems neat, but I don't have a home network, only a cheapo multi-port ADSL modem/router. These things tend to be a bit gnarly (and unfriendly) to set up at the best of times, so I don't know how easy - let alone whether - it would be possible to set the modem/router up to allow my computer to see a NAS disk. And given the horrible potential for unwittingly sharing the contents of a NAS disk with the entire internet, I'd have to be very careful! I gather that it is generally the case that any configuration of the NAS box can usually be done via a browser front-end; obviously any disk which requires Windows software is a no-no. On the other hand, a plain-old USB hard disk seems the simpler option. I would naively assume that as USB is now well-proven technology, these would work just fine with Ubuntu, but is that the case? How easy would it be to automate backups to such a disk? Would it mount with a persistent mount point, or would it change with every unplug or system reboot? Then there is the question of what backup strategy I should actually use. I was assuming that an automated rsync every week would be the easiest, but perhaps there are other possibilities? Something automated, once configured, without requiring user intervention is an absolute must: the whole point of doing backups is that I don't have to remember to do it! I mentioned above that having two external hard disks, alternating between current latest backup and disk being backed-up to, seemed a good strategy, ensuring that I always have one backup at all times. Alternatively, perhaps some kind of mirror RAID strategy would be worth considering, although that would seem to require me to have four hard disks to maintain my always one spare backup strategy (and is outwith my budget!). I also don't know whether USB HDs or NAS HDs are RAID-able. Can anybody offer any advice on this? Thanks, David. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] External hard disks and backup strategies
Pete Stean wrote: Can I also add that a few of the NAS devices will also run linux - if memory serves there's a NAS-specific Debian build you can use on a couple of devices... have a google - that thing could be routing your email, acting as a music server, a firewall and store your files amongst other things - I don't think it will make the tea though... Pete Actually, it might :-) http://www.xapautomation.org/ Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Redundency was Going back to the Dell deal...
Alan Pope wrote: The protocol is explained in the page I linked to:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpecSpec and further from there to:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpecTemplate What I would do is create a new page:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuNetworkApplicanceEdition and paste into it the contents of the SpecTemplate page then go nuts editing it :) Make sure you link the wiki back to the blueprint you created, and vice versa. Done... Give me a ping if you need some help. Right - now need people to get over there and improve upon the very high level version I've written with some specific package suggestions, say :-) Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu jobs
Rhys Morgan wrote: Sorry did not mean to be arrogant, like I said it was just a rant really i have been searching for weeks for jobs which from experience i have done better quicker and more competently than people who have degree level qualifications and falling at every hurdle some would say its my own fault for not going to university and gaining said qualifications but at that age I decided to join the parachute regiment instead and now have a wife and baby ( wife is in uni studying to be a midwife ) so its not viable for me to go back to education. Anyway apologies to any CS grads that I have upset I was not presuming to be better than you just speaking from the experience of CS grads I have met in the past ( and their errors I've had to correct ) Rhys, I have degrees in Mathematics and Computation, so I'm _almost_ one of the CS Grads in question :-) I personally wasn't offended by your rant. I too have met many people who I consider excellent in IT - some of whom have no academic qualifications (but, of course, some who do.) In part, I agree with the sentiment - at the risk of making a sweeping generalisation, those of us who studied IT at University almost 20 years ago were, compared with those going off to Uni this week: - A) a far smaller percentage of our age group, and - B) typically more motivated by a fascination in understanding how to make things works than in the income prospects that such a degree might bring about :-) Obviously, many currently studying IT are motivated just as we are, but, from anecdotal evidence, no longer represent 100% of those on such courses. As an aside to others on the list, if you ARE about to start Uni - WELL DONE - I applaud your decision, and hope it works out for you - by virtue of being on this list you've already demonstrated a vocation... however, expect to meet people on your course who are doing it because they think it's where the big bucks lie [1]. As an aside to others of that age-group on the list, if you are about to start something OTHER than Uni - WELL DONE - I applaud your decision, and hope it works out for you. However, I would caution you, when applying for jobs, to make comments like that on an open list. The manager who is about to interview you may well BE a CS grad, and take personal offence, and count this against you. (Heh, I've met some IT Managers who had IT degrees who I wouldn't trust to run a whelk stall [2].) On the flip side, however, you may find that someone reading this shares your views and IS in a position to offer you a job - so it may all work out. The general principle of don't slag off a large part of your potential customer-base [3] on a forum that is easily readable by Google holds though :-) Regards, PS - under the circumstances, I'll write it out some letters so you know my biases :-) Mark Harrison, BA, MA, MBCS NOTES: [1] - it isn't particularly, BTW, but that's another subject for another day. [2] - I'm a better entrepreneur than I am a manager, BTW, see point [1] above :-) [3] - I tend to use the word customer in the sense of anyone who you might potentially provide a service to, or who has the ability to influence such a buying decision, and class hire as a special case of buy... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Release Party for Gutsy?
In the light of my car crash last week (and the fact that I've been out of a sling for about 24 hours), I've NOT done anything about arranging a venue for the Gatwick Breakfast. If anyone wants to jump in, say so quickly, otherwise we might be better letting that idea die, and concentrating on things later in the day like the Pembury Tavern (or Birmingham, wherever that is :-) :-) :-) ). M. Matthew Larsen wrote: so... we gonna have a party or what? On 07/09/2007, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 01:53:37PM +0100, Dianne Reuby wrote: Have you thought of running an online version for those who can't make the location(s)? A virtual assistants group that I belonged to had a virtual office party every Christmas using our chatroom (MSN, Trillian, Gaim, etc). We all just dropped in and out whenever work or other commitments allowed. We had (IIRC) #ubuntu-releaseparty on Freenode last time round. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Redundency was Going back to the Dell deal...
Alan, Gosh - I'll have a look at that, and see whether I can put something together. I guess it's one of those areas where, if there are others interested, the spec will get refined into something useful... and if no-one else's interested even in debating, then the project would never have attracted developers anyway :-) M. Alan Pope wrote: Hi Mark, On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 18:23 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: When it comes to network infrastructure - I find it notable that there's an Ubuntu Desktop (well, more than 1 - Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.) and an Ubuntu Server edition... but not an Ubuntu network infrastructure edition. A very interesting idea. You could write a specification [0] for one and submit it as a blueprint [1] which could potentially be discussed at the Ubuntu Developer Summit [2] in Boston [3] at the end of October. [...] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Redundency was Going back to the Dell deal...
Alan Pope wrote: A very interesting idea. You could write a specification [0] for one and submit it as a blueprint [1] Done... (at least, entry into the specifications database.) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-network-appliance-edition I have no idea on the protocol for refining this - if someone wants to create a wiki page in the right place (or give me noddy instructions on where to create such a thing) this would be helpful. I have some ideas on what needs to be in the Spec (and like the format), but would rather bounce them off a couple of others before anything gets formal M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Redundency was Going back to the Dell deal...
Ian, I agree - my concern is not that I know anything BAD about the software clustering products... it's that I need to buy a service that lets me sleep at night without worrying the phone will ring at 3 in the morning... ... that means that the choice of support provider (whether internal staff or external company, BTW) needs to be 100% confident that this kind of solution will just work and stay working. I guess where I differ from a lot of the Ubuntu users is that I have a set of decision criteria that run: - Reliable - Supportable - Cost-effective The reason I run Ubuntu for my servers is that it is: - Reliable (0% unplanned downtime this year - 30 minutes planned downtime, and that to install and test a new set of stored procedures on the database server) - Supportable (either from Canonical or a growing number of third parties) - Cost-effective This is something that many on the Ubuntu list may find distasteful. I care very little about free as in speech. Many in the Linux community have told me that I should care about this, and given me lots of moral reasons. Don't get me wrong - I care about morality - I spent a while before going to Uni working in an orphanage in Zimbabwe, where the concerns were about having enough food to eat, and books at school - and in my own time I am happy to campaign and evangelize for Open Source software. However, when I work for the company, I have a clear responsibility to use what, in my judgement, is going to be the BEST solution for the company. The reason I chose Ubuntu rather than any other Linux distro (and over the past 13 years, I've used Red Hat, SuSe, Gentoo and Debian, as well as SunOS, Solaris, DOS, OS/2, NT, 95, 98, 2000, XP, Vista and whatever the thing that Sequents used to run was called) is that, of all the Linux distros, Canonical has (as far as I can tell) the clearest vision of where it wants Linux to go... and seems to understand that the way to get more traction in the market is to appeal to people like me rather than preach to me and tell me I'm wrong. Many of the good Linux consultants I know (Nik Butler, Alan Pope, for two, both being active on this list) seem to either share this view, or be professional enough to supress any preaching instinct when talking to me :-) When it comes to network infrastructure - I find it notable that there's an Ubuntu Desktop (well, more than 1 - Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.) and an Ubuntu Server edition... but not an Ubuntu network infrastructure edition. It would be an interesting micro-distribution to take Ubuntu Server, rip out most of it, and add in a few odd packages so that a box (or pair) were optimised and hardened for: - Firewalling - Load-balancing - SSL acceleration - IDS I have little doubt that there WILL be such a thing, and once there is, and a growing number of firms offering support on it, I will be ready to make that move. Regards, Mark Ian Pascoe wrote: Hmm Ok, that fairly well answers my post of a couple of minutes ago. My only comment to the software load balancing, compensation clauses being pushed out of sight for the moment, is that there are a number of clusters out there run by various companies blah blah blah and they seem to use the software with quite high efficiencies. Now these clusters are sized from the small 2 node jobs up to the 125+ ones. In fact the most quoted common concern appears to be that of both hardware failure and reliable backups. Ok, Ian is leaving the house so you can get the compensation clause back out now E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Harrison Sent: 10 September 2007 21:57 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Redundency was Going back to the Dell deal... Alan Pope wrote: Hi Mark, On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 21:28 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: Others may have a different opinion, and if they're prepared to underwrite (with funds lodged in an escrow account) my company's loss of income were we to have any downtime because of an Ubuntu failure, I'm willing to read their support proposals :-) Do Cisco do that? :) Cheers, Al. No, nor did I ask them to any more than I'd hold Canonical responsible for use of Ubuntu in any place where their own consultants hadn't specified it. However, the VAR who installed the Cisco 11000s (the LBs that Cisco had bought from Arrowpoint and re-branded) for us - THEY did :-) And, indeed, the following year, I got £210,000 in compensation out of them (not for the Load-Balancing, BTW, but for another site not as promised claim). I got a fairly good bonus that year :-) :-) Ah, the glory days of the dot com boom, I miss them :-( Of course, the supplier in question went into Chapter 11 shortly afterwards, and never really came out of it (their assets are owned by CW now), but not because of that particularly warranty, I stress :-o Mark
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Vote for Ubuntu on Lenovo
Matthew Wild wrote: On 9/8/07, *Josh Blacker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Winning by quite a long way at the moment, leading over Debian by about 600 votes :) lol, now leading by 4000 votes :P 35 minutes after your post, I've just voted, and the lead is now almost 7,500 :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Redundency was Going back to the Dell deal...
Alan Pope wrote: Hi Mark, On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 11:00 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: Hardware load balancer tend to give the twin benefits of resilience and performance. ..and another single point of failure. :) Cheers, Al. Al, Yeah - that's why I've (in the past) used a pair of them with heart-beating between them. Sadly, that MORE than doubles the cost, since the heartbeating functionality tends to be added-cost option. and before anyone says Cost, Mark? Surely you could use an additional pair of multi-homed Ubuntu boxes with XXX package running between them for sticky load balancing, I know I could in principle but I also know that I've run Cisco (Arrowpoint) loadbalancers for literally YEARS with zero maintenance, and 100% reliability across quite big webhead clusters ... I have that level of confidence in Ubuntu server for running webheads and database clusters... but not for network infrastructure boxes (yet.) Others may have a different opinion, and if they're prepared to underwrite (with funds lodged in an escrow account) my company's loss of income were we to have any downtime because of an Ubuntu failure, I'm willing to read their support proposals :-) Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Redundency was Going back to the Dell deal...
Alan Pope wrote: Hi Mark, On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 21:28 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: Others may have a different opinion, and if they're prepared to underwrite (with funds lodged in an escrow account) my company's loss of income were we to have any downtime because of an Ubuntu failure, I'm willing to read their support proposals :-) Do Cisco do that? :) Cheers, Al. No, nor did I ask them to any more than I'd hold Canonical responsible for use of Ubuntu in any place where their own consultants hadn't specified it. However, the VAR who installed the Cisco 11000s (the LBs that Cisco had bought from Arrowpoint and re-branded) for us - THEY did :-) And, indeed, the following year, I got £210,000 in compensation out of them (not for the Load-Balancing, BTW, but for another site not as promised claim). I got a fairly good bonus that year :-) :-) Ah, the glory days of the dot com boom, I miss them :-( Of course, the supplier in question went into Chapter 11 shortly afterwards, and never really came out of it (their assets are owned by CW now), but not because of that particularly warranty, I stress :-o Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where to find good labour
Matthew Larsen wrote: However, realise that programming skill is only PART of what a typical employer is looking for - ability to work as part of a team, rather than adopt a primadona attitude. If everyone else in the organisation wears suits, don't expect to show up in jeans a T-shirt... on the flip side, if everyone is wearing polo shirts and chinos, don't be the only one in a 3-piece suit :-) Wearing a suit doesn't make you a suit, and if you claim that wearing a suit stifles creativity, consider that Einstein and Money seems to do quite well in them. Second that. Oh, talk about a Freudian slip. That should have been Einstein and Monet :-) In my defence, I use a qwerty keyboard :-) :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Going back to the Dell deal...
Michael Holloway wrote: 2. How many Linux users would buy a one? I'm not sure i can answer this, but i imagine not too many. Most linux users like to customise their machines, and put all the latest and greatest (or cheapest and oldest) compenents into it. 10 years ago, that would have been me. In fact, about 10 years ago I _did_ build my Own PC (a Pentium-90 in fact.) Now, I want a machine that works, with an operating system that works. Don't get me wrong - I work in IT, I'm into the latest toys as much as the next geek, but desktop O/Ss aren't an exciting playground for me compared to Ajax apps :-) As I said, I want a machine that works, with an operating system that works. Hmm... let me think? Should I go with (out of date) XP? Should I go with (utterly, cripplingly slow) Vista? or... can we think of another O/S that might run a lot faster on modern laptop hardware AND be more reliable? I'd be INCREDIBLY tempted to go with a pre-installed, manufacturer-supported, Linux-laptop next time round. Mainstream buyers have a different mind-set, and the Dell with Ubuntu pre-installed is hitting a lot more of those buttons than download this distribution ever did. The worst case is that Dell do the work (or get Canonical to) to come up with a standard image for their Ubuntu laptops, and that image sits on a server farm in Ireland not being installed from much. Net cost to Dell, a small amount of disk space. Net benefit to Dell, marginal increase in customer choice. Marginal benefit to Ubuntu - huge - endorsement from Dell that our chosen distro is supported by the biggest and the best. (Yes, I know, HP / IBM / RedHat, but heh... Dell has the biggest mindshare for desktops / laptops, I suspect.) And, for people like me, who are already on pure Ubuntu-servers at work (4 in the operational farm, 2 development servers, and a spare box sitting around to swap in in the event of catasrophic hardware failure), this has a marginal benefit to ME even if I never buy a Dell Linux Laptop - it helps convince my board (who to be fair, I've trained to trust my technical judgement) that I am backing the right horse with Ubuntu. Regards, Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Release Party for Gutsy?
Good call. I've entered details for a proposed BREAKFAST (near) Gatwick party. In my life, morning meetings match a freer diary than evening ones :-) Even if only 5-10 people come, it strikes me as a good PR stunt to be able to say that there are launch parties around the UK throughout the day, starting at 8:00 at Gatwick, with big evening parties in London and Birmingham... ... the point of these parties is, presumably, to be able to get out press releases IN ADVANCE so that (at least local) papers will pick up, and mention the new release - thus hitting markets that we wouldn't have done otherwise. M. Ciaran Mooney wrote: Hi, I'd like to cast my vote for Birmingham. And I'd like to say having two will be a benefit rather than a problem. There seems to be enough people from the Midlands and the South regions to fill both events. Created a wiki page for those who want to have a look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/GustyReleaseParty Cheers, Ciarán -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Release Party for Gutsy?
Andy Loughran wrote: We're having a wonderful conversation on IRC about the potential location. Currently the solution is to do a google map, and find a location with the minimum average distance for participants. It seems to be a fair way of doing things. Would I be willing to come to Birmingham (from Sussex) for a Gutsy launch party? - No :-( Would I be willing to come to London (from Sussex) for a Gutsy launch party? - Probably :-) Would I be willing to help with a launch party in Sussex - Yes :-) :-) If only there were other Ubuntu users in Sussex / Hampshire Oh wait, paging Mr. Pope, paging Mr. Butler. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Installing Ubuntu to dual-boot (partition sizes)
Hi all, I've only ever installed Ubuntu as the only O/S on PCs before, but I do need the laptop to be able to run Windows Media Centre from time to time, so dual-boot is the way to go. I have an 80Gb HDD, with 40+Gb free at the moment... so in principle could re-partition down, to give, say, 20Gb to Ubuntu, and leave 20 still free for Windows. Some of the files are at the wrong end of the disk, though, so I don't have a big block of contiguous space free. What's the best way to do this? For a one-off exercise, I kind of resent the idea of paying £70 for Partition Magic... Can the Feisty installer do this for me? Oh - and in an ideal world, I'd like to set things up so the local email store (Thunderbird) was on some kind of drive that could be read/written reliably by EITHER O/S is this viable, or am I going to need to keep two copies of my Offline IMAP ? Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing Ubuntu to dual-boot (partition sizes)
Colin Watson wrote: (Obviously make backups of anything valuable first, as you would for any major invasive exercise like installing an OS.) I don't have any data on the laptop other than backups / local cached copies, if you see what I mean. The question is where did I put the Dell system recovery CD, of course - re-installing XP-MCE on the beast would be the annoying part of the exercise :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
