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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Run Kdenlive on Ubuntu Studio

2019-02-27 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 26.02.2019 um 23:24 schrieb Douglas Pollard:
>   I have been trying to run Kdenlive Video editor on Studio it work fine 
> for about a moth but will not show me audio Wave forms on the audio time 
> line. 

Please be more specific, did you see the wave graphs in this first month?

What if you play the very same material in say: VLC? Do you hear the sound?

Could you provide a small snippet of the problematic material and a
screenshot of the application?

> Havent been able to get help from them. Any body here know if 
> their might be something In XUbuntu studio. that could cause the 
> problem. Maybe an incompatability???

nope. US is a normal Debian/Ubuntu, if KDEnlive runs, it runs as it does
everywhere else.


a la prochaine ;-)

HZN

>   Thenks Douglas Pollard
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Missing icons in kdenlive on UbuntuStudio 15.10 (SOLVED)

2015-12-21 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 19.12.2015 um 21:46 schrieb WMID:
>>
>> Hi, zequence said me from Xchat that I generate a bug report because
>> kdenlive 15.10 has not icons:
> 
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive/+bug/1526854
> 
> In this report a man called Flames said to me that this is a duplicate:
> 
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive/+bug/1519099
> 
> But in this said this:
> 
> 
> Patola (patola)  wrote on 2015-12-02:#5
> 
> 
> Just an info to whoever is subscribed to this bug: this problem does not
> occur on the kdenlive version of ppa:vpinon/kdenlive-testing - and it also
> has not crashed yet as I have tested, whilst the official ubuntu wily
> version crashes almost every time I am doing or selecting a title clip
> (shame on you, canonical! This software should not be unstable, you should
> be more diligent on ensuring stability for your users; the fact that a
> voluntary-compiled 'testing' version of the same software works better than
> yours is testimonial to your sloppy testing procedure. Or maybe you are bad
> in getting feedback from your users, my own bug requests are left
> unattended for a long period).
> 
> 
> Next I install that PPA:
> 
> 
> and have icons kdenlive:

There is another workaround also:

just put this line into your $HOME/.profile

XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=KDE

this works regardles, what desktop you actually use, I have it working
perfectly with the standard-packages from US under Fluxbox.

> 
> http://i.imgur.com/Qc2wNAB.png
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Libre Office for Ubuntu Studio

2013-08-06 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 02.08.2013 13:40, schrieb Kaj Ailomaa:
 We're currently moving towards becoming desktop environment agnostic,

That I consider an excellent decision! One of the greatest pros for
Linux is that it does not paternalize the user with only one choice for
the DE. Maybe XFCE could remain the recommended default but to point the
users to the fact, that they can always choose any other available
surface is absolutely wise.

 so
 that would leave us with these problems to solve:
 
 When the user installs Ubuntu Studio, they will choose which DE they
 want. We'll try to include as many as we can.
 
 For XFCE it will either be xfce4 or xubuntu-desktop. 
 We'll want to override some things - at least artwork.
 The less, the better, as it leaves us with less maintenance work and we
 can focus on the multimedia bit.
 
 We won't have our own set of primary desktop tools, unless we decide we
 want a package like that to override applications in other DEs. I don't
 see the point in this, but it's a possibility.
 So, if we don't have our own primary desktop tools, what is left is our
 workflows.
 At least Libre Office Writer could be included in our publishing
 workflow.
 
 These problems are to be solved for 14.04, and the discussion of this is
 better suited for the ubuntu-studio-devel mail list.
 
 Just letting you guys know a bit of what is going on.
 
 


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Libre Office for Ubuntu Studio

2013-08-06 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 02.08.2013 12:31, schrieb Abhayadev S:
 i am also in the opinion of saving disk space.. 

And why do you? On any HD, that is big enough for even a humble
A/V-Production another 100-200 MB for an Officesuite, that may prove
handy sometimes is irrelevant.

 At times i am helpless that
 some of the tools could not be removed unless the entire Audio is not
 removed.. 

I was puzzeled also when I saw these messages some years ago. Do not
fear! The meta-packages like US-audio are not the real packages but only
lists of them. Removing a meta-package does *not* remove the software
installed by it.

 is that so or just i missed some other options?
 
 Regards,
 Abhayadev S
 http://sites.google.com/site/abhayadevs
 
 
 On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Ralf Mardorf 
 ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote:
 
 I would remove Libre Office and install AbiWord. IMO it doesn't matter
 what Office software is installed, it's easy to remove and/or install
 other office software. Keep in mind that AbiWord is the default for
 Xubuntu, so it's less work to make the distro. The smaller the DVD image
 is, the faster we can download it. In the past I used Open Office, but I
 switched to AbiWord, since Open/Libre Office is to bloated for my needs.
 Regarding to the need of RAM and CPU resources it shouldn't make a
 difference, since I guess nobody need to run it during an audio
 production.

 IMO Nano-Basket, an editor for the much used KORG nanoKONTROL and
 JSynthLib, an editor for several hardware synth, are more useful for
 most of us, than heavy office software.


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Re: brushes for Gimp

2013-05-25 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 26.05.2013 00:33, schrieb Pete Wright:
 Almost through the process of getting weaned from PaintShopPro after many
 happy years with it.
 Now I can do pretty much everything in Gimp I could do with PSP.
 I can make my own brushes and use them.
 But so far I can't get any of the zillions of free brushes from sites like
 Noupe.
 How do I get a set of brushes using Transmission?

I do not know Transmission, it is a convenience-tool to download brushes
and the like?

Anyway you request made me try to find out, if I can do that. So I
registered with deviant art and downloaded this

http://browse.deviantart.com/art/GIMP-Water-Brushes-62663732

The zip-file contained a folder that I copied to .gimp2.8/brushes in my
home-folder. Then I started GIMP and the brushes where available.

May work for you as well?

best regards

HZN


 Madly right and left clicking the various links (my usual last resort when
 I don't know what I am doing) yields no joy.
 I use Transmission for getting iso files, etc. so I know it works.
 NoScript is often the fly in the ointment, but even with temporarily all
 this page I am getting nothing.
 What obvious thing that everybody else knows by osmosis or instinct (yes, I
 am feeling sorry for myself!) am I missing?
 Thanks
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Re: Problem creating a DVD Video

2013-05-07 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 07.05.2013 11:15, schrieb David King:
 I am using Ubuntu Studio 12.04, and trying to create DVD videos.
 
 I am having a problem with DVD Styler creating a DVD. It creates it 
 okay, with 4 video tracks, each playable from the main menu. But when 
 selecting the first, it only plays the first 37 seconds (it is 31 
 minutes long, with automatically generated chapters every 5 minutes), 
 and trying to skip through the chapters will not work on this video.
 
 I have tried removing the video from the project and re-adding it, but 
 still it does not work.
 
 If I play the video file by itself, it plays perfectly okay. It was 
 created in OpenShot.
 
 I can go through the DVD creation process to create the ISO and it is 
 shows no errors, and I can burn the ISO to DVD, play it on a DVD player 
 and yet when trying the first video I get the problem. I do not get any 
 problems with the other video titles on this DVD.
 
 I also get the problem if I preview the DVD using Xine part way through 
 the ISO creation process, and it has the problem there as well.
 
 I am using DVD Styler 2.1 on Ubuntu Studio 12.04.
 
 I downloaded 2.4.3 and tried to install it,

Normally you do not need to download any Applications for Linux expect
some proprietary products and if you want to build the app from source.

 but it failed due to missing 
 dependencies, even though they are there (in their ubuntustudio 
 versions, with slightly different names). The terminal output from 
 ./configure is
OK, so you want to build from source ...

 
 checking for LIBAV... no
 configure: error: Package requirements (libavformat = 53.20.0
 libavcodec = 53.34.0 libavutil libswscale libavfilter = 2.15.0)
 were not met:
 
 No package 'libavformat' found
 No package 'libavcodec' found
 No package 'libavutil' found
 No package 'libswscale' found
 No package 'libavfilter' found
 
 Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
 installed software in a non-standard prefix.
 
 Alternatively, you may set the environment variables LIBAV_CFLAGS
 and LIBAV_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
 See the pkg-config man page for more details.

Do you have the development-packages of the named libs installed?
libavformat-dev, libavcodec-dev ...


 
 I do not know what to do, or what settings to change to get the 
 installed to recognise the proper files it needs already installed. 
 Ubuntu Studio 12.04 only provides DVD Styler 2.1.
 
 I also do not know if upgrading will fix the problem with the DVD 
 creation, or maybe there is something I can do with 2.1 that will make 
 it work properly.

To me it looks like the file for that chapter is broken. Good players
like VLC can handle slightly damaged files, most hardware players
cannot. So I would recommend to export the given chapter one more time
to get a new file.

good luck :-)

HZN

 
 I am using the 12.04 version of Ubuntu Studio as it a long term support 
 release, so if there is a bug with creating DVDs it should be fixed.
 
 The libav files are installed, but they are the ubuntustudio versions. 
 To install the exact versions listed, the existing versions and a whole 
 lot of Ubuntu Studio software will be uninstalled.
 
 Any ideas on how to fix this?
 
 
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Re: Poll

2013-01-30 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 30.01.2013 02:53, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtrwZ7irPN7TdGdNUUltUzZ2ZGpqa2RZdmtZRllIM1E#gid=0
 
 http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2013-January/089753.html
 
 My vote is Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS, Ubuntu 12.12, the later is a typo
 and should be 12.10 ;). It seems to be, that Ubuntu/Ubuntu Studio users
 prefer the LTS, so do I.

I voted for Ubuntu12.10 + KXStudio

It works so perfectly well for me, that I doubted, that qjackctl failed
to catch xruns after the upgrade from 12.04 -- it does not, there simply
are no xruns anymore...

 
 For me it's reasonable that so many people use Arch Linux. I only
 dropped it (perhaps temporarily), regarding to the transition to
 systemd.
 
 FWIW, the release model is discussed in the Xubuntu mailing list.
 
 Regards,
 Ralf
 
 


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Re: To fix the broken 12.10 release proposed updates might help

2012-11-26 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 26.11.2012 11:28, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
 Not tested myself [1] and IMO this is just a minor issue, but perhaps there
 will follow more fixes in proposed updates.
 
 I wonder if switching to another DE would help to get back a stable
 desktop environment. OTOH I'm tired of unstopping switching the DE.
 
 Btw. is there a repository to downgrade Xfce and important dependencies?

Downgrading does not help for long: you do not want to keep an older
Version of anything for more than 2-3 years, some day you will have to
upgrade so there are only two ways to go I guess:

1.) try to get a recent version of XFCE, GIMP etc, that is configured
differently and thus more to your satisfaction. If you build them
yourself from source you have a plethora of options at compile time.

2.) switch to other software. KDE works more or less the same as good
for me as XFCE does, if you like it leaner, try LXDE or Fluxbox. I use
to run Fluxbox plus XFCE-panel on my main workstation and it works like
a charm. I know that there is no substitute for GIMP though, let alone a
similar powerful app, that comes with the classic workflow known from GIMP.

 
 I also would like to get a downgraded version of GIMP and Evolution for
 Quantal.


If Evolution is first and foremost you Mail-agent, I recommend
Thunderbird. It just works, everywhere, allways...

good luck...

HZN



 
 Is nobody on this list running into issues?
 
 Btw. GIMP isn't buggy, it's still stable, but the workflow is broken,
 too much changed.
 
 YMMV!
 
 [1]
  Forwarded Message 
 From: Mark Trickett tiberopou...@gmail.com
 Reply-to: Xubuntu Support and User Discussions
 xubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
 To: xubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] update-manager not on any of the menus and
 can't be put, there? (Andy Proctor)
 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:01:21 +0200
 
 On 26/11/12 11:57, Mark Trickett wrote:
 Message: 1 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:50:41 + From: Andy Proctor 
 xubuntu.l...@gpshelp.co.uk To: xubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com 
 Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] update-manager not on any of the menus 
 and can't be put there? Message-ID: 50b13321.9060...@gpshelp.co.uk 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 
 24/11/12 18:56, Knute Johnson wrote:
 On 11/24/2012 10:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 08:53 -0800, Knute Johnson wrote:
 On 11/23/2012 01:36 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 20:48 +, Andy Proctor wrote:
 On 23/11/12 14:07, Vincent Trouilliez wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Knute Johnson
 ubu...@knutejohnson.com wrote:
If I go into the Settings Manager, select Main Menu,
 select
a submenu (in this case System) and then attempt to 
 enable
the Software Updater (which is update-manager) 
 program on
any of the menus it disables itself in a few seconds.
 I hit
the checkbox next to update-manager and a few seconds
 later
it un-checks.  Anybody know what I'm doing wrong?


 I don't think yo are doing anything wrong: I did a clean 
 install of
 XUbuntu12.10 and appear to have the same problem !

 Actually it doesn't appear to have anything to do with the
 update-manager itself, as I tried enabling other items in the 
 system
 menu and they too disable themselves a second after I check their
 boxes !

 Definitely a good case for a bug report IMHO ! :-/

 -- 
 Vince


 Agree, I've tried what you said and have the same problem.

 Andy
 Delete ~/.cache, I couldn't change fonts and e.g. even after editing
 Evolution's config I couldn't change anything, because Evolution and
 e.g. the appearance settings were used from the cache, even after
 rebooting.
 After deleting the cache, until now everything is ok.

 Hth,
 Ralf
 That didn't work.  Do you need to be root to change menus?
 No, this can be done with user privileges.

 I did edit my menu with Alacarte (the app for Main Menu) and I
 experienced that I couldn't edit all entries as wanted. I couldn't
 uncheck some, but delete them, I also couldn't add some apps that I
 deleted some time before to the same menu were they were before, 
 instead
 I had to put them to the sub menu Other, deleting the cache indeed
 didn't help.

 :(


 I found a bug for this.  It is specific to Xubuntu.  alacarte writes
 the menu file to the wrong name on Xubuntu.  I just copied my
 ~/.config/menus/applications.menu file to xfce-applications.menu file
 and it now works fine.

 It is supposed to be fixed in R(can't remember) and they said there
 was a fix in Quantal proposed but I can't find it there. The work
 around is OK for now I guess.

 Bug #1069207

 Thanks,

 Dear Knute, this workaround solves it, many thanks! I look forward to
 the fix in a future release, till then all good!

 Andy


 I ran into this just last night. I noticed that there's an update to 
 Alacarte (the software that is the menu item editor in Xubuntu 12.10) 
 and it's been accepted into

Re: cannot run Adobe Reader

2012-11-26 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 26.11.2012 00:14, schrieb David King, linux user:
 Booklet printing is where you can print a document of several pages long, but 
 each page is reduced to fit on half the sheet, and all in the correct order 
 so that when printed the whole lot can be stapled and folded to form a 
 booklet,

This is a standard-function of the Linux Printing System. You can print
any multi-page document from any application that way.



 albeit smaller than the original document. Currently I now have to go into 
 Windows, via Virtualbox  to do this. I realise Ubuntu developers cannot fix 
 Adobe Reader, but it seems to rely on libxml2, which is part of Linux, and 
 the error message suggests that's where the problem lies, as it used to work 
 previously before one of the updates I did in Ubuntu Studio.
 
 David
 
 Sent from my android device.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Holstein mikeh...@gmail.com
 To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion 
 ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
 Sent: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:26
 Subject: Re: cannot run Adobe Reader
 
 On Nov 25, 2012 9:11 AM, David King, linux user linux...@avoura.com
 wrote:


 I use Adobe Reader for its booklet printing ability. I have not found a
 FOSS pdf reader that can do that.
 
 I would file wishlist bugs with the foss projects in question. We can't
 include adobe reader. We also can't fix it if its broken. I would contact
 adobe for support of the adobe products. I would be glad to help track down
 booklet printing if you'd elaborate as to what that is. Also, in the
 interest of casting a wider support query, you might seek help in the main
 ubuntu avenues as this issue is not ubuntustudio specific. Cheers.
 
 Holstein

 David K



 -Original Message-
 From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
 To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
 Sent: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 1:47
 Subject: Re: cannot run Adobe Reader

 On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 00:03 +, David King wrote:
 I installed Adobe Reader 9.5.1, but it will not run.

 The output I get from the CLI is:

 $ acroread
 /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading
 shared libraries: libxml2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No
 such file or directory


 I checked in Synaptic and libxml2 is installed.

 I am running Ubuntu Studio 12.04

 So why is my Adobe Reader not working? I tried uninstalling it,
 downloading it again from the Adobe site, and reinstalling, but it did
 not help.


 David K

 Perhaps an multi-architecture issue? Do you run an Ubuntu Studio amd64
 install? If so, is libxml2:i386 installed?

 Is Adobe reader needed for something? I'm not dogmatic, I use
 proprietary software myself, but only if needed. Why do you want Adobe
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Re: [Fwd: Re: To fix the broken 12.10 release proposed updates might help]

2012-11-26 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 26.11.2012 12:36, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
  Forwarded Message 
 From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com
 To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: To fix the broken 12.10 release proposed updates might help
 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:33:18 +0100

 On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 12:05 +0100, Hartmut Noack wrote:
 Am 26.11.2012 11:28, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
 Not tested myself [1] and IMO this is just a minor issue, but perhaps there
 will follow more fixes in proposed updates.

 I wonder if switching to another DE would help to get back a stable
 desktop environment. OTOH I'm tired of unstopping switching the DE.

 Btw. is there a repository to downgrade Xfce and important dependencies?

 Downgrading does not help for long: you do not want to keep an older
 Version of anything for more than 2-3 years, some day you will have to
 upgrade so there are only two ways to go I guess:

 1.) try to get a recent version of XFCE, GIMP etc, that is configured
 differently and thus more to your satisfaction. If you build them
 yourself from source you have a plethora of options at compile time.

 2.) switch to other software. KDE works more or less the same as good
 for me as XFCE does, if you like it leaner, try LXDE or Fluxbox. I use
 to run Fluxbox plus XFCE-panel on my main workstation and it works like
 a charm. I know that there is no substitute for GIMP though, let alone a
 similar powerful app, that comes with the classic workflow known from GIMP.

 I also would like to get a downgraded version of GIMP and Evolution for
 Quantal.

 If Evolution is first and foremost you Mail-agent, I recommend
 Thunderbird. It just works, everywhere, allways...

 good luck...

 HZN

 Thank you for the recommendations.

 I wouldn't use Thunderbird, because I don't like the new style, however,
 Claws does work and I like it, but that's not a help. I need access to
 all my emails from the last years and so I have to use Evolution.

I switched from Evolution to Thunderbird a few years ago. To keep my
mails recieved using Evolution I exported them all to mbox and I did not
loose a single one. To be complete: I did not loose a single mail since
1999 when I switched from Star Office Mail to Mozilla.

Export/Import using mbox works flawlessly for me.

 I switched from KDE3 to GNOME2 and from GNOME2 to Xfce. KDE4 and GNOME3
 don't fit to my needs/workflow. I already was thinking of switching to
 LXDE, Fluxbox never satisfied my needs, but LXDE is ok.

 What happens to GIMP is a shame. It took more than 1 hour to do
 something I did in some minutes using GIMP in the past.

 The problem is that all the issues I've got are not related to the
 distro, it's caused by upstream. At the moment I'm using Ubuntu only,
 but I've got a lot of installs and I'm always ready to switch between
 Ubuntu, Debian and Arch Linux. Following all mailing lists, I read that
 Xfce 4.10 and some things that are independent of the DE and important
 for me are broken for all distros.

 I'm going to install FreeBSD 9.0, but I'm sure it can't replace Linux
 for many usages and I doubt that for equal applications thinks will
 differ to Linux. 

I am not aware of any desktop-applications, let alone image-manipulation
apps for BSD that are not built from sources available for Linux also.

Not even Solaris is different enough that a test-user could not be told
it would be some strange Linux-distro.

 Support for my RME card might be better

Really? And what about the support for the apps that you use for working
with it?

, which won't
 help when audio and MIDI is less good supported. OTOH developers for
 audio drivers are interested in users. I never saw a reply at ALSA users
 or devel to anyone's request, when somebody had serious issues. They not
 only ignore me, but they ignore everybody.

 Regards,
 Ralf

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Re: Building Calf 19, srfftw.h not found

2012-08-26 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 26.08.2012 15:18, schrieb Mac:
 Hi,
 
 So I set off to build the Calf 19 plugins under UbuntuStudio 12.04.
 
 The current sticking point is it can't find srfftw.h from FFTW2.

I had this error too but installing everything about fftw devel-packages
from Ubuntus repos fixed it.

 
 I have the source for FFTW2 from http://www.fftw.org/download.html and
 there's no srfftw.h in there either.
 
 I started this because on another distro (AVLinux) the Calf plugins
 include a 12 band EQ which runs quite nice with calfjackhost.
 
 But the eq12 plugin seems to have gone into hiding, have been
 unsuccessful in my web searches, thus far.
 (other than the picture in this
 article:http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/friends-jack )
 


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Re: Building Calf 19, srfftw.h not found

2012-08-26 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 26.08.2012 21:33, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
 On Sun, 2012-08-26 at 14:51 -0400, Mac wrote:
 sudo checkinstall says command not found
 
 It's not installed, but you don't need it, it's just a recommendation to
 build a package instead of installing it without a package. It should be
 available by Synaptic.
 
 sudo ldconfig produces no output
 
 That's correct, ldconfig creates the necessary links and cache to the
 most recent shared libraries, but without being verbose.
 
 It could be that the links were missing and perhaps now it's ok. Is
 EQ-12 available now?
I at least got it, it is part of CALF-git for some time now and it works
OK for me...

 
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Re: New to this list -

2012-05-31 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 31.05.2012 08:56, schrieb bart deruyter:

That means a midi and audio capable DAW.

All of it in Ardour? That's new to me, well, with Ardour 3 yes, but without
a printable score.


There are Workarounds. You can import the midi-files from the 
project-folder to a software, that can print them.



The official release isn't out yet... it's still beta.
It has midi support though.


The recent Betas do work quite good. I have spent dozens of houres 
working in them whithout any trouble.




Rosegarden does it all, and with a score. But I'm not a fan of it... I had
too many issues with it, but it might work out well for you.

My guess is, wait for Ardour 3 to release a stable version, download,
install (installer is really easy) and try it out. Then you'll have a
audio/midi recording app of huge quality.

If you can't wait, try the beta, but don't use it for real work, just for
testing and getting familiar with it.

grtz,

Bart

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On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Dave Woyciesjeswoycies...@sbcglobal.net

wrote:



I'm getting the itch to start attempting to compose music. I'm looking
for recommendations on a decent, fairly easy to use program(s).
I'll start with just using the mouse and computer keyboard to layout
the notes. Eventually I'll probably connect my MIDI/USB Casio to lay down
the music.
Needs to be multi track (drums, guitar, bass, etc..). Once I get the
tracks laid down, I may even hook my 5 string bass to the line in. If there
is an application to apply effects to that, even more fun. But that's later
on...

  I guess what I'm looking to do is compose  record to wav (the
compress/convert to mp3) all on the computer. Eventually I'd try using the
MIDI/USB keyboard to write some parts into the program.
I'm geussing I'd probably need a different application, if I want to
add a line-in source to the song during mixing.



All of this is possible using Ardour.

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Re: (rant) Is there any hope

2012-03-03 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 03.03.2012 07:45, schrieb Jose H.:

So, if I ready correctly:


It would be much easier to find out, what it is, that you read, if you 
would not top-post but point us to what you are talking about.




Ubuntu Studio is not, and will not be a productive audio recording and
mixing environment.
Why:
  1) kernel issues
  2) driver issues


All this applies to Ubuntu Studio in some cases with some combinations 
of hardware. It does not apply to many other Linux-Variants, including 
Ubuntu-derivates like KXStudio. And as far as I am concerned, it does 
not apply to my setup, that simply works perfectly well with Ubuntu plus 
the KX-Layer. And so does my Laptop. And my USB-interface and my 
Firewire-interface.


Sorry folks, I really cant help but say: it works for me, just great.
It does for about 8 years now, with maybe a dozen different machines and 
soundcards. And for some friends of mine it does so as well.





Options:
  1) Use a new distro that some say is great !  ( a new clone of
ubuntu/debian/etc.. ) - not really a good option


Fedora, Suse, Debian vanilla: I made music with all of them, with bands, 
for video everything everybody does with music on computers, all did 
work OK for me. And yes: some did work for setups Ubuntu failed to 
support the same as good.



  2) Just install Windows and be able to do some of the stuff, maybe all
you need- realistic option


Do, as thou wishest but please consider to accept, that Linux did not 
work for *you* and *your* setup. It does work for many others.



  3) Wait until Linux has a decent Sound API   - unrealistic
option


I do not really understand, what you mean by a decent Sound API  Jack 
and ALSA are consolidated and seam to work (last time I checked I found 
a few hundred applications and devices that worked good with these 
APIs). And everything else, that may exist in Linux regarding sound is 
irrelevant for musicians (and it does not interfere anymore either).




Well, that conclusion is sound with my own experience.


*Your own* experience -- thanks for pointing to this.


Ubuntu/Linux is
supposed to be better than other OSs but definitely music production is not
one of those fields in which it gets even to the minimum expected.


In *Your own* experience it may be so. BTW: what other Linux-Variants 
did you test? Fedora+CCRMA? Pure:Dyne? Suse?





Personally I think this is because we don't have a firm base to build. You
can't expect to have great user apps if you can't even have a good OS
layer. Even if you have great apps, for what if you can't get the OS to
work !?. We have ZynAddSubFX, but your sound card just doesn't work !


What if you have Logic on your IBook running MacOSX but alas! Your 
interface does not come with a driver compatible to that version of MacOSX?


Try Google, chances are, you find more than one thread discussing such 
issues, lesser chance though, that such threads end with the conclusion, 
that MacOSX would be entirely unusable for musicians




, why
?, maybe because pulseaudio, maybe because the driver, maybe because the
kernel or maybe because the modules you load ?, or maybe because you are
not tired of linux and you just want to play and forget about Ubuntu Studio.


I recommend indeed to abandon Ubuntu Studio and try Fedora or Suse.

best regards

HZN



Regards



El 18 de febrero de 2012 06:04, tezatezalp...@gmail.com  escribió:


Hi
Should try.Tango Studio
Regards
Teza.
Le 15 févr. 2012 05:11, Rick Greenr...@aapsc.com  a écrit :

for Ubuntu Studio as a productive audio recording and mixing environment?


Four years ago, I bought a Focusrite Saffire Pro 26 firewire interface,
largely because it was listed as one of the best-supported by the ffado
project.  I loaded up a copy of UbuntuStudio 8.04LTS.  The clean install
wouldn't talk to the interface, but after I obtained a bleeding-edge copy
of the ffado source from one of the developers, and recompiled locally, I
was up and running.  I've used that installation for every recording I've
done since.  For the most part it's stable, and I've learned to work-around
its quirks
  When 10.04 came out, I thought I'd upgrade, thinking I'd like to see the
latest enhancements to Ardour, and it might be more forgiving of the order
I start up programs.  But 10.04 wasn't stable enough to run jack for more
than a few minutes before the xrun count went thru the roof.
  Since then, I've tried every new release, and the regressions are
stacking up faster than ever.

  I recently did a clean install of 11.10 (amd64), and tonight gave it a
first attempt with the firewire interface...

  With 8.04, I start ffado-mixer, and it automatically starts the
ffado-dbus-server.  With this one, it merely complains that the dbus server
isn't running, so I'm forced to open a terminal and start it, then when I
restart ffado-mixer, it tells me 'no supported devices found'.
  This isn't exactly true, for when I go to a terminal and run ffado-test

Re: (rant) Is there any hope

2012-03-03 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 03.03.2012 20:40, schrieb saearea-t...@yahoo.com:








Von: Hartmut Noackzettber...@linuxuse.de
An: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Gesendet: 12:24 Samstag, 3.März 2012
Betreff: Re: (rant) Is there any hope

Am 03.03.2012 07:45, schrieb Jose H.:

So, if I ready correctly:


It would be much easier to find out, what it is, that you read, if you
would not top-post but point us to what you are talking about.



Ubuntu Studio is not, and will not be a productive audio recording and
mixing environment.
Why:
1) kernel issues
2) driver issues


All this applies to Ubuntu Studio in some cases with some combinations
of hardware. It does not apply to many other Linux-Variants, including
Ubuntu-derivates like KXStudio. And as far as I am concerned, it does
not apply to my setup, that simply works perfectly well with Ubuntu plus
the KX-Layer. And so does my Laptop. And my USB-interface and my
Firewire-interface.

Sorry folks, I really cant help but say: it works for me, just great.
It does for about 8 years now, with maybe a dozen different machines and
soundcards. And for some friends of mine it does so as well.




Options:
1) Use a new distro that some say is great !  ( a new clone of
ubuntu/debian/etc.. ) - not really a good option


Fedora, Suse, Debian vanilla: I made music with all of them, with bands,
for video everything everybody does with music on computers, all did
work OK for me. And yes: some did work for setups Ubuntu failed to
support the same as good.


2) Just install Windows and be able to do some of the stuff, maybe all
you need- realistic option


Do, as thou wishest but please consider to accept, that Linux did not
work for *you* and *your* setup. It does work for many others.


3) Wait until Linux has a decent Sound API   - unrealistic
option


I do not really understand, what you mean by a decent Sound API  Jack
and ALSA are consolidated and seam to work (last time I checked I found
a few hundred applications and devices that worked good with these
APIs). And everything else, that may exist in Linux regarding sound is
irrelevant for musicians (and it does not interfere anymore either).



Well, that conclusion is sound with my own experience.


*Your own* experience -- thanks for pointing to this.


Ubuntu/Linux is
supposed to be better than other OSs but definitely music production is not
one of those fields in which it gets even to the minimum expected.


In *Your own* experience it may be so. BTW: what other Linux-Variants
did you test? Fedora+CCRMA? Pure:Dyne? Suse?




Personally I think this is because we don't have a firm base to build. You
can't expect to have great user apps if you can't even have a good OS
layer. Even if you have great apps, for what if you can't get the OS to
work !?. We have ZynAddSubFX, but your sound card just doesn't work !


What if you have Logic on your IBook running MacOSX but alas! Your
interface does not come with a driver compatible to that version of MacOSX?

Try Google, chances are, you find more than one thread discussing such
issues, lesser chance though, that such threads end with the conclusion,
that MacOSX would be entirely unusable for musicians



, why
?, maybe because pulseaudio, maybe because the driver, maybe because the
kernel or maybe because the modules you load ?, or maybe because you are
not tired of linux and you just want to play and forget about Ubuntu Studio.


I recommend indeed to abandon Ubuntu Studio and try Fedora or Suse.

best regards

HZN



Regards



El 18 de febrero de 2012 06:04, tezatezalp...@gmail.com   escribió:


Hi
Should try.Tango Studio
Regards
Teza.
Le 15 févr. 2012 05:11, Rick Greenr...@aapsc.com   a écrit :

for Ubuntu Studio as a productive audio recording and mixing environment?


Four years ago, I bought a Focusrite Saffire Pro 26 firewire interface,
largely because it was listed as one of the best-supported by the ffado
project.  I loaded up a copy of UbuntuStudio 8.04LTS.  The clean install
wouldn't talk to the interface, but after I obtained a bleeding-edge copy
of the ffado source from one of the developers, and recompiled locally, I
was up and running.  I've used that installation for every recording I've
done since.  For the most part it's stable, and I've learned to work-around
its quirks
When 10.04 came out, I thought I'd upgrade, thinking I'd like to see the
latest enhancements to Ardour, and it might be more forgiving of the order
I start up programs.  But 10.04 wasn't stable enough to run jack for more
than a few minutes before the xrun count went thru the roof.
Since then, I've tried every new release, and the regressions are
stacking up faster than ever.

I recently did a clean install of 11.10 (amd64), and tonight gave it a
first attempt with the firewire interface...

With 8.04, I start ffado-mixer, and it automatically starts the
ffado-dbus-server.  With this one, it merely

Re: workflow in ardour?

2012-02-21 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 21.02.2012 17:57, schrieb mentoj_d...@gmx.de:

i tried to do it after your descripton, but i'm still not able to do so


where do you got stuck?

it would be best if you would quote my initial mail to point us to the 
problem...


best regs

HZN




 Original-Nachricht 

Datum: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:27:45 +0100
Von: mentoj dijamentoj_d...@gmx.de
An: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and 
Discussionubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Betreff: Re: workflow in ardour?



thanks. that will help...


Am 08.02.2012 01:04, schrieb Mike Holstein:

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Hartmut Noackzettber...@linuxuse.de
mailto:zettber...@linuxuse.de  wrote:

 Am 08.02.2012 00:26, schrieb mentoj_d...@gmx.de
 mailto:mentoj_d...@gmx.de:

 hi,

 i just started a little project. a kind of podcast.. but what
 ever.

 i record 3 signals at a time with ardour and edit them after
 the recording to get best results. stuff i do is: limiting,
 expanding, compressing.
 what i always did was: i played the signals - in realtime -
 back, put them through a calf-compressor (for example) and
 re-record them on another track in ardour. that needs time.
 even if the recording is just 20 minutes, i need at least 1,5
 hours to get it done. is there a way around it?


 of course there is


 can i play the signal back faster than realtime for this
 workaround?


 kind of:

 1.) set compressor, limiter etc. as desired


means, i put plugins in the post-fader section?



 2.) use the range-tool to select the part of the track you want to
 manipulate

 3.) right klick the range and select Consolidate range with
 processing


i cant find this entry in the menu. i still work with ubuntu 10.04 and ardour 
2.8.6. does this matter?



 Ardour will render a new region with all your processing as fast
 as your CPU can deliver ;-)


does ardour write the new processed region in a new track? or will the old 
track be overwritten?



yup... export the track, and that can happen faster than realtime, and
if not, at least you only need to do it one time...


hm, yes this is also a way, but then i have to import the result again, to do 
further edits.





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Re: workflow in ardour?

2012-02-21 Thread Hartmut Noack


Big sorry for not seeing the quotes below :-)


Am 21.02.2012 17:57, schrieb mentoj_d...@gmx.de:

i tried to do it after your descripton, but i'm still not able to do so


 Original-Nachricht 

Datum: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:27:45 +0100
Von: mentoj dijamentoj_d...@gmx.de
An: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and 
Discussionubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Betreff: Re: workflow in ardour?



thanks. that will help...


Am 08.02.2012 01:04, schrieb Mike Holstein:

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Hartmut Noackzettber...@linuxuse.de
mailto:zettber...@linuxuse.de  wrote:

 Am 08.02.2012 00:26, schrieb mentoj_d...@gmx.de
 mailto:mentoj_d...@gmx.de:

 hi,

 i just started a little project. a kind of podcast.. but what
 ever.

 i record 3 signals at a time with ardour and edit them after
 the recording to get best results. stuff i do is: limiting,
 expanding, compressing.
 what i always did was: i played the signals - in realtime -
 back, put them through a calf-compressor (for example) and
 re-record them on another track in ardour. that needs time.
 even if the recording is just 20 minutes, i need at least 1,5
 hours to get it done. is there a way around it?


 of course there is


 can i play the signal back faster than realtime for this
 workaround?


 kind of:

 1.) set compressor, limiter etc. as desired


means, i put plugins in the post-fader section?


exactly





 2.) use the range-tool to select the part of the track you want to
 manipulate

 3.) right klick the range and select Consolidate range with
 processing


i cant find this entry in the menu. i still work with ubuntu 10.04 and ardour 
2.8.6. does this matter?


could be but should not, I am not sure ift that functionality was 
implemented in 2.8.6


But you have used the range-tool for sure? Because in the region-menu 
there is no such entry.







 Ardour will render a new region with all your processing as fast
 as your CPU can deliver ;-)


does ardour write the new processed region in a new track? or will the old 
track be overwritten?


It would look like the old track is being overwritten but the original 
material is not changed in the process, you can still find the pristine 
recordings in the regions-list.


If you do not want it to look that way, choose Export to region list.





yup... export the track, and that can happen faster than realtime, and
if not, at least you only need to do it one time...


hm, yes this is also a way, but then i have to import the result again, to do 
further edits.


No, the result is immediately available in the Ardour-project. You can 
choose, if it replaces the original regions (without overwriting the 
original material as described above...) or if it shall be available in 
the region - list.


best regards

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Re: workflow in ardour?

2012-02-07 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 08.02.2012 00:26, schrieb mentoj_d...@gmx.de:

hi,

i just started a little project. a kind of podcast.. but what ever.

i record 3 signals at a time with ardour and edit them after the recording to 
get best results. stuff i do is: limiting, expanding, compressing.
what i always did was: i played the signals - in realtime - back, put them 
through a calf-compressor (for example) and re-record them on another track in 
ardour. that needs time. even if the recording is just 20 minutes, i need at 
least 1,5 hours to get it done. is there a way around it?


of course there is


can i play the signal back faster than realtime for this workaround?


kind of:

1.) set compressor, limiter etc. as desired

2.) use the range-tool to select the part of the track you want to 
manipulate


3.) right klick the range and select Consolidate range with processing

Ardour will render a new region with all your processing as fast as your 
CPU can deliver ;-)



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Song release after 15 years

2011-12-31 Thread Hartmut Noack

I posted this on the LAU-list also, so please excuse the doublette, if 
you read both lists :-)


I have released a song I had begun working with in the mids of the 1990ies:

The Syrens Of Spring
How Weary I am -- 1995-2011

http://lapoc.de/demos/the_sos-how_weary_iam-21122011.flac

it is licensed Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike

I worked on at least 100 days on the piece, sometimes 6 h, sometimes 15 
min in most cases 1-2 h. For every minute on every track in the project 
I had 5 minutes erased. Some 5-minute takes are edited down to 3 
seconds. Other parts (such as some of the vocals) are 1st takes.
While I worked on the piece Linux Audio made great progress. I opened 
the project-file in all versions of Ardour since 2004. I wrote 4 
articles about Ardour for german Linux-Magazines most of them using 
screenshots of the how weary project. Such screenshots also appeared in 
articles about 64Studio, Ubuntu Studio, Suse/JAD and other Linux-distros 
I wrote about in that time.


The software never failed me. If there was trouble, it was never 
catastrophic -- most incidents where related to plug-ins badly written 
or abused or both. But bugs never destroyed more than a few minutes of 
recordings and the project itself never was endangered by some serious 
mistakes of Ardour -- since there where no mistakes of that category. 
The same goes for Guitarix and Alsa Modular Synth that where my main 
standalone sound generators for the project.


I spent a important part of my life with this piece of music. Two of my 
children are borne in that time. The colour of my hair changed from 
brown with some grayish strands to gray with some darker strands and a 
good deal of white and the length of these hairs swayed between 30 
centimeters in the 1990ies and 2 centimeters in 2005. My weight from 89 
Kilogramm up to unacceptable 108 at the LAC in Berlin and now down to 
more acceptable 91K. I smoked 30 cigarettes a day then quit smoking for 
2 years then started again and changed to e-cigaretts in the end. I used 
computers for office-work like everybody, then became a power-user, 
switched to GNU/Linux and became a modest web-programmer in the end. I 
have seen and experienced many many things in this time and I am 
thankfull and glad to have seen and experienced all this.


I hereby give this tune to these people: enjoy my sound-installation by 
the name of How weary I am for 8 minutes, 8 seconds and 8 hundreds of 
a second (this is really, really the result of the export, I did 
nothing, none, zero to provoke these figures. I swear it!).


I thank you all and especially the musicians that helped me to do it 
(Fred and Christoph) and all the brilliant programmers that made the 
software I worked with and give it to the world under a free license.


Get the complete story and the list of the software used here:

http://lapoc.de/zblog/?page_id=116


thank you all and have a good new 2012!

HZN/Berlin

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Re: Pulseaudio, Jack and Rosegarden

2011-06-16 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 16.06.2011 15:52, schrieb Josep Pujadas i Jubany:

Hello!

We have 300 netbooks working with 10.04 LTS, not 10.04 Studio.

We would like to use Rosegarden, but we have trouble how to configure
Pulseaudio, Jack and Rosegarden together.

We tried several ways. We arrived to run Jack but we can't heard anything
playing MIDI with Rosegarden.


As the other have stated already: you need a sound-generator to be 
played by the notes, you write in RG.


There is a plug in calles fluidsynth-dssi that you can add to a 
RG-Project using the synth-admin-tool (looks like a knob in the toolbar 
above the editor). Fluidsynth-dssi allows to load a soundfont-file that 
you can download from several sites on the web.


You can also uses synths like whysynth-dssi or CLAF-organ/monosynth to 
play your notes.


A rightklick on a track allows you to set a loaded plug-in to a track.

The rest should go automagically for now ;-)

best regs

HZN



Any idea?

Thanks,

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Re: diagnostic tools to trace the reason xruns are happening?

2011-06-05 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 05.06.2011 11:00, schrieb Robert Klaar:

What happens if you set the frames/period settings higher? I have similar
setup and can't get it to run on any lower than 1024 frames(if I want to
avoid xruns), but then I've set the sample rate to 48000. I've never noticed
any problems with the latency, it's at 46 or something now but I can't hear
any difference between this and something lower, can you? .)


Yes I can.

I work with musicians and my experience is:

lower than 5ms: nobody noticed that in comparison with 10ms

5-10ms: everything fine, no complaints

around 16ms: all but some singers realise that something is going on, 
faces grow longer, some demand changes.


For very big projects on lesser machines I run Jack with 30 or more ms 
latency. It is OK for mixing/editing etc but I do not record any 
overdubs with such settings. I remember I did some years ago but it 
really was not fun and the results where not as good as they could have 
been.


Any recent Linux sould allow settings for 16ms or lower for normal load. 
If it does not, I try the standard-procedures to fix it, if this does 
not help I switch the distro.


best Regs

HZN




Best,
Robert

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:24 AM, bart deruyterbart.deruy...@gmail.comwrote:


Hi all,

since recently I'm experiencing more xruns in ubuntustudio 11.04, more
specifically using the lowlatency kernel. My audiocard is an external one,
firewire, and I use the firewire driver. They just started happening out of
the blue, without changing anything significantly. These xruns happen
randomly, not caused by anything I do on the desktop. When I keep qjackctl
running without any audio apps open, now and then, about each half hour, or
20 minutes, there is an xrun.

My limits.conf file seems to be as described on the wiki's over the web, I
have 4 GB or ram, a duocore processor.. I see no reason for problems.
I've got a latency of 17.4 msec, with a setting of 256 Frames/Perios,
Sample Rate of 44100, and 3 Periods/Buffer. So far this was the most stable
setup, though I'm sure I should be able to go to 128 Frames/Period with my
AudioFire12. But I can't, more xruns happen when using this setting. Setting
the samplerate higher I get more xruns too. I'd love to record on 96000, or
even 192000, which is possible with the audiocard, but the computer system
prevents this because of these xruns.

This does make it unreliable for recording, which I want to do more
regularly and it makes me impossible to do recordings for others. I do not
want a system where I have to ask people to start playing again for the
recording because xruns.

So, I was wondering, are there diagnostic tools, test scrips, tracing tools
to get me to the bottom of this?

Grtz,
Bart

http://www.bartart3d.be/

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Re: Has somebody a stable Ubuntu Studio NATTY 64-bit?

2011-05-31 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 31.05.2011 00:45, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:

On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 18:05 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote:

ralph




I heard a lot of Linux recordings I like, but never one that regarding
to the sound quality was comparable to any professional studio recording
or any analog home recoding.


I never heared any recording made unto cassette, that had a sound 
quality comparable with the first primitive recordings I made with 
Audacity on a Terratec EWX -- some 10 years ago.


Excuse the hard words but your notions are plain nonsense. I do not 
speak about software at all here, sound quality has nothing to do with 
software at all.
You can actually make a audiophile recording of a Jazz-trio on Linux 
simply using a capable interface (like the RME plus a decent IO-module), 
good preamps, good microphones and good musicians playing good 
instruments in front of them. With jack_record or Ardour or Mixbus or 
Gramofile: at your option.


Yes, top-notch analogue equipment still beats everything else but 
certainly not a cassette-recorder.


best regards

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Re: Sound cards (Was: Re: no sound

2011-05-20 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 20.05.2011 13:54, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:

On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 12:48 +0200, Robert Klaar wrote:

Any Rme card is good, although they're a bit expensive. Didn't have to
do a thing to get my hdsp 9632 working.

Hi Robert :)

the main reason to switch the sound cards is the audio sound quality.
I'm able to pay around 700,- EUR / 800,- EUR (right now, regarding to my
profession, I usually don't have any money). Btw. I noticed that not
only my sound cards do cause loss. When recording soft synth just by
JACK, without the sound cards being involved, there's a loss for the
sound quality too!

No, there is none.

Any software, that generates sounds from scratch like a softsynth wil
produce exactly the same stream with any soun card. In fact such
software will even generate the very same stream if no soundcard exists.

And if you record such a stream with Jack you simply store that very
stream bit by bit.

I assure you, you get the very same data in a recording via Jack if you
play the same patch of the same synth on a work station with a RME
Hammerfall or on a Laptop with a built-in HDA.

The only level on wich a soundcard is related to a softsynth is the one
on wich you actually hear the stream. And some synths can render
differntly, if Jack is running at 96KHz instead of 48 or 44.1.

But this has only remotely to do with the sound card let alone its quality.

And soft synth already do sound less good than real
old synth. Unfortunately those real old synth can break and there're no
microchips available to repair those synth, resp. they are hard to get,
very expensive and without warranty.

My two TerraTec EWX 24/96 needs to be replaced,

Tell me where you dump them, these 2 more stereo-dacs would be most
welcome in my box ;-)

All the trouble with the envy24-cards is related to (mis)configuration
and to stupidities like automatically zeroing all channels caused by PA
in most cases.
As of now these problems can be solved by the user. They are *not*
acceptable, they are bugs that need to be solved. But these bugs are not
show-stoppers.

before I don't have got
the money anymore. FWIW S/PDIF doesn't work for my Ubuntu Studio with
the TerraTecs, hence I can't use good analog IOs that would be
available via S/PDIF. Btw. good analog IOs in this context does mean
consumer DAT Sony DTC-670 and Aiwa HD-S1, both are without any loss of
sound quality, when listening by my consumer equipment. At least good
consumer sound quality is what I expect of a professional sound card,
even if internal Linux there still would be loss caused by JACK or
caused by what issue ever.

Jack does not cause any loss in sound-quality because Jack does not
have any influence on the way, the pcm-stream is produced by the
driver/sound-card.

Once Brauner borrowed me a Mac with a Motu
firewire device.

The MOTUs are quite okayish and they sound exactly the same on any
system that supports them.

the Mac's sound quality

There is no such thing.
No Mac-expert would endorse something like a special Mac-related sound
quality. Do not mix that up with sound performance that has to do with
latencies and stability but *not* with how good it sounds in the end.

You know why? Because no professional would want to buy/use any
computer/OS, that attempts to manipulate the sound produced from a
pro-interface, be it for better or worse.
OS/Driver etc *has* to be absolutely neutral in that, everything else is
super-bass-enancer nonsense that one my expect in a cheap MP3-player
but certainly *not* in a computer-system built for pros.

accomplished this requirement! No, I'm not using Brauner microphones for
my home studio ;), all I need is good consumer sound quality.

All your experience is fired by the real quality of the DAC/ADC-hardware
on the cards you have used and to some extend may be influenced by
mixer-settings.

no offence ment but RTFM please.

best regs
HZN

Two question about the RME card, I'll read more about sound cards later
and during the weekend and maybe I'll order a card next week.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?xsid=294c1645e0e16b761c35fa8f9ebcec51sw=HDSP+9632x=0y=0

At a max of 4 analog IOs? The unbalanced breakout cables are part of the
product content?

Cheers!

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Re: Sound cards (Was: Re: no sound

2011-05-20 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 20.05.2011 14:37, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:

On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 14:04 +0200, Thomas Orgis wrote:

Am Fri, 20 May 2011 13:54:57 +0200
schrieb Ralf Mardorfralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net:


When recording soft synth just by
JACK, without the sound cards being involved, there's a loss for the
sound quality too!


Wait a minute... could you explain that? You have a loss of quality compared to 
live playback of the soft synths (using JACK?) when playing back a recording 
taken from JACK? A recording that preserves 32 bit floating point sample format 
(heck, or 24 bit integer) and the sample rate, of course?


Yes and other people who can't hear it, do have it too.


I do not.


You can see it
by watching the waves spectral by Audacity. I did this regarding to a
zero-copy issue, that appears if a Jack client is connected directly to
itself, e.g. to do the mastering. 48 and 96 KHz, 32-bit wav 32-bit
float.


If a synth has dynamic filters it will never produce the exactly same 
stream twice. But if you think about yourself you will find out, that 
given you use the same settings for Jack on a HDA or a HDSP you will get 
exactly the same quality.


Simply because a synth-software only delivers, what it renders to Jack 
and Jack does *not* change anything in that rendered data. There is 
simply not soundcard and not even a driver involved in the rendering 
itself. DSPs only do the very same thing faster as cheap chips.


All difference in sound quality is related to DAC/ADC period




I have to wonder what you did there to alter the data from the soft synth. I 
mean ... we're talking bit-exact copy here, aren't we? Can you present a test 
setup to observe that issue?


Any Linux install I know, e.g. 64 Studio 64-bit 3.0, 3.3, Suse 64-bit
11.2 and Edubuntu 32-bit Maverick + Ubuntu Studio meta packages and
others! If you can't here it, try to see it. If you don't have this
issue too, some people claim that they get 100% correct digital copies,
then something on my machine might cause a software issue, but I don't
think so.

Ralf



Alrighty then,

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Re: Sound cards (Was: Re: no sound

2011-05-20 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 20.05.2011 14:58, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:

On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 14:36 +0200, Hartmut Noack wrote:

Am 20.05.2011 13:54, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:

On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 12:48 +0200, Robert Klaar wrote:

Any Rme card is good, although they're a bit expensive. Didn't have to
do a thing to get my hdsp 9632 working.

Hi Robert :)

No, there is none.

And if you record such a stream with Jack you simply store that very
stream bit by bit.

Wrong! There still could be rounding errors and dithering involved

Yes, dithering makes a differnce -- if you use it.

And do you think, sound cards or drivers provoke specific rounding
errors in streams that are not even deliverd to them by Jack?

a
digital copy very often isn't a digital copy ;). But ok, here I didn't
use dithering and I do use 32-bit float, but the result has a loss. I
dunno what do cause this loss.

For Jack there also is a zero-copy issue! You can't do wild connections
using Jack, but you need to take care about the order, when e.g.
connecting a client to itself.

I assure you, you get the very same data in a recording via Jack if you
play the same patch of the same synth on a work station with a RME
Hammerfall or on a Laptop with a built-in HDA.

The only level on wich a soundcard is related to a softsynth is the one
on wich you actually hear the stream. And some synths can render
differntly, if Jack is running at 96KHz instead of 48 or 44.1.
But this has only remotely to do with the sound card let alone its quality.

My two TerraTec EWX 24/96 needs to be replaced,

Tell me where you dump them, these 2 more stereo-dacs would be most
welcome in my box ;-)

Jack does not cause any loss in sound-quality because Jack does not
have any influence on the way, the pcm-stream is produced by the
driver/sound-card.

Once Brauner borrowed me a Mac with a Motu
firewire device.

The MOTUs are quite okayish and they sound exactly the same on any
system that supports them.

the Mac's sound quality

accomplished this requirement! No, I'm not using Brauner microphones for
my home studio ;), all I need is good consumer sound quality.

All your experience is fired by the real quality of the DAC/ADC-hardware
on the cards you have used and to some extend may be influenced by
mixer-settings.

no offence ment but RTFM please.

best regs
HZN

Two question about the RME card, I'll read more about sound cards later
and during the weekend and maybe I'll order a card next week.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?xsid=294c1645e0e16b761c35fa8f9ebcec51sw=HDSP+9632x=0y=0

At a max of 4 analog IOs? The unbalanced breakout cables are part of the
product content?

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Re: Sound cards (Was: Re: no sound

2011-05-20 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 20.05.2011 15:15, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:

On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 15:00 +0200, Hartmut Noack wrote:

Am 20.05.2011 14:37, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:

On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 14:04 +0200, Thomas Orgis wrote:

Am Fri, 20 May 2011 13:54:57 +0200
schrieb Ralf Mardorfralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net:


When recording soft synth just by
JACK, without the sound cards being involved, there's a loss for the
sound quality too!


Wait a minute... could you explain that? You have a loss of quality compared to 
live playback of the soft synths (using JACK?) when playing back a recording 
taken from JACK? A recording that preserves 32 bit floating point sample format 
(heck, or 24 bit integer) and the sample rate, of course?


Yes and other people who can't hear it, do have it too.


I do not.


You can see it
by watching the waves spectral by Audacity. I did this regarding to a
zero-copy issue, that appears if a Jack client is connected directly to
itself, e.g. to do the mastering. 48 and 96 KHz, 32-bit wav 32-bit
float.


If a synth has dynamic filters it will never produce the exactly same
stream twice. But if you think about yourself you will find out, that
given you use the same settings for Jack on a HDA or a HDSP you will get
exactly the same quality.


I'm an expert for audio engineering. I did work for Brauner microphones
development and others, hence I know a little bit about how to do
tests ;).
No dynamic filters are involved!

It's very simple, there's a natural sounding drum set as example drum
kit for Hydrogen. Play a rhythm, record this Rhythm and then record this
recording and compare both recordings. They should be equal, but they
aren't equal. I can here a !clear! loss and it's visible by spectral
waves.



Simply because a synth-software only delivers, what it renders to Jack
and Jack does *not* change anything in that rendered data. There is
simply not soundcard and not even a driver involved in the rendering
itself. DSPs only do the very same thing faster as cheap chips.

All difference in sound quality is related to DAC/ADC period


No! Before any converter is involved, there at least could be rounding
errors, if you don't use 32-bit float all the times.


And why should I not use 32bit float all the time?

Of course there are differences, if format-conversion is involved. But 
you did not mention such conversions, you only talked about sound cards 
causing mysterious differences when Jack delivers a stream from a 
synth-application directly to a recorder.


The normal, sane setup fpr recording a synth directly with Jack is, that 
the synth, Jack and the recorder all run with the same samplerate and 
32bit float or at least all 3 with 16bit Int. And if that is set up like 
this, there is zero influence of the soundcard on the recording.




And by the way, the sound card will effect the original and the digital
copy in the same way, even with a bad sound card both recordings
shouldn't differ.

Hey, do a recording of a recording


You mean, like recording something from ams via jack then play the 
wav-file with mhw and record this with ardour. Then compare the two 
recorded streams?


If in such a process recording A would differ from recording B then MHW 
or Ardour *could* cause such a difference. Jack itself could only be 
charged, if resampling and/or dithering would be involved. That is: if 
the synth-engine would work with 44.1Hz while Jack runs with 48Hz. And 
you will not want to set up a synth like this.


But you said, that there would be a difference between a 1st-level 
recording from a synth via Jack with sound card A and another recording 
of the same synth with soundcard B.


And that is not the case.


and then run the diff command to
compare them ;)!






I have to wonder what you did there to alter the data from the soft synth.


Format conversion?
Some synths (like ZynaddSubFX) can be configured to produce streams in a 
certain format (such as 44.1 Hz / 16bit Int) and still run with Jack 
that runs with different settings.
Every body sets Zynadd to run with the same SR as Jack and Zynadd 
recommends that if started from the command line.




I mean ... we're talking bit-exact copy here, aren't we? Can you present a test 
setup to observe that issue?

Any Linux install I know, e.g. 64 Studio 64-bit 3.0, 3.3, Suse 64-bit
11.2 and Edubuntu 32-bit Maverick + Ubuntu Studio meta packages and
others! If you can't here it, try to see it. If you don't have this
issue too, some people claim that they get 100% correct digital copies,
then something on my machine might cause a software issue, but I don't
think so.

Ralf



Alrighty then,

Thomas.













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Re: Official Announcement: Ubuntu Studio is switching to XFCE.

2011-05-16 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 16.05.2011 08:43, schrieb aYo Binitie:

Hi Scott,
Your opinions are noted and they are valid. I never claimed that XFCE was no
good - just that I had never used it and there were probably good reasons
why it was second best to Gnome2.


I assure you and everyone who has reservations towards XFCE: it is quite 
the same as Gnome2 and can be configured to mimic it near to 99%. It 
even offers some features, Gnome has dropped like switching Desktops 
with the mouse wheel on any place on the desktop and some more options 
for configuration.
I use Gnome in Ubuntu and XFCE on Fedora on a dayly basis and I hardly 
notice the differnces (there are some inconveniences in Gnome, I can 
feel 1-2 times per day...)


Plus: Gnome2, XFCE, KDE have more or less the same basic features that 
are the ones the user is confronted frequently. All these full-featured 
desktops can be configured to mimic each other in a way that no user 
without a lot of experience will notice the differences.


All of them can have a hierarchical menu in the upper left corner, 
desktop icons, panels, a pager and a tray. And they suppport each others 
panel-applets or have similar applets as their siblings.


I really think, that nobody, who has used Gnome2 the way a typical 
normal user uses a desktop will be apalled by XFCE.



best regs

HZN


Having said that considering the fact that
going forward there is a need for a new desktop to be adopted - I acquiese
to the fact that you - the UbuntuStudio team have done your due-diligence
and have found this the sensible and viable option. I will take you up on
your suggestion and try Xubuntu to see for myself the possibilities therein.
I have converted the entire Flash development (and IT ) team in my Agency to
the Ubuntuside thus my interest in this is tremendous.
aYo

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Scott Lavenderscottalaven...@gmail.comwrote:


I apologize for singling out this post, but...

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 3:37 AM, aYo Binitieayobini...@gmail.com  wrote:


XFCE - I have no idea about but it was super we would not be all having
these rants.






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I think this is a very, very poor argument.  But iyou are not alone
however.

I haven't read any rants in this thread (well, maybe one) but I have seen a
lot of ignorant whinging.

There has been a vocal minority that asked, Why change from GNOME 2? or
some other variant of that statement.  But it appears that these people
neither understand why we made a decision nor have any understanding of XFCE
and how similar it is to GNOME 2.

So, the rants are ignorant protestations about change.  This has no
reflection on XFCE.

I challenge you (not just you aYo, but everyone) who thinks XFCE isn't
super or good or isn't GNOME 2 to actually try it.  Try it for a week.  A
day, even.


If someone can use XFCE and then provide a good fact based argument for not
using XFCE *OR* can provide a viable alternative we would very much like to
hear them.  I mean that sincerely.

What I don't like, appreciate, or find useful is ignorant whinging without
providing any reasons, facts, or alternatives.

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Re: Official Announcement: Ubuntu Studio is switching to XFCE.

2011-05-15 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 15.05.2011 18:36, schrieb Michael Dickson:

On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 11:14 -0500, Scott Lavender wrote:

I apologize for singling out this post, but...

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 3:37 AM, aYo Binitieayobini...@gmail.com

I challenge you (not just you aYo, but everyone) who thinks XFCE isn't
super or good or isn't GNOME 2 to actually try it.  Try it for a
week.  A day, even.


Umm,  maybe the same could be said for Gnome3...

Rather than dump it (or Unity which will apparently be the default
Ubuntu desktop) for yet another DE which itself has pros and cons.
Being direct, I haven't seen a viable argument yet for why a change is
necessary. Except perhaps that some folks don't like Gnome3.



I had a conversation whith a Gnome-evangelist at the Linuxtag yesterday 
and I assure you: Gnome3 would be a major break of concept compared to 
Ubustudio with Gnome2.


XFCE is indeed the best choice available if Ubuntu Studio shall have a 
user interface as known from the versions made with Gnome2.


So in short: I think Scott is right, the change to XFCE is wise, 9 out 
of 10 users will like it...


HZN



And sorry, that's not a whine. Its me stating the truth as I see it.

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Re: Making Music with FOSS

2011-04-25 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 25.04.2011 11:40, schrieb Ralf:

On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 10:08 +0100, Angel de Vicente wrote:

wrong Network Recording Player version. With version 2.23 it is just fine.


For people (not me), who wish to watch .arf files too, did you get this
version by the link at http://www.webex.com/play-webex-recording.html ?

Oops, I guess I blamed the RedHat guy, but it's a woman from RedHad
writing about
'Ardour - proprietary_plugins = not_a_full_version_of_Ardour'.

Sorry, I cannot find the original article -- do you have a link to it by 
any chance :-)





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Re: [Ardour-Users] Presonus Firepod FP10

2011-04-19 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 18.04.2011 18:29, schrieb Harry Van Haaren:

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Fábio Magnonifabiohmagn...@gmail.comwrote:


Does anyone knows if Presonus Firepod FP10 works with Ubuntu Studio and
Ardour 2 or Ardour 3?


Hi!

JACK uses FFADO for its firewire device drivers. This basically means that
if FFADO supports a product,
then any JACK capable piece of software will be able to use that hardware.

Lots of information about firewire-devices  linux available at ffado.org.

You want to know about the presonus, so go check the device support
database:
http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport%2Flistfilter0=presonusfilter1=op2=ORfilter2[]=**ALL**

Cheers, -Harry

PS: I don't own a presonus, so I don't have experience with thier gear
linux.




I had a FP10 running with 64Studio out of the box for 3 days flawless 
some 3 years ago.
*Ubuntu* Studio did not perform the same as well with my Presonus 
Firebox(witch is the same device with only 6 inputs) though. Ubuntu 
Studio may have solved these issues in the meantime but anyway you may 
rest assured: the Firepod works perfectly well under *Linux* ;-)


best regs
HZN


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Re: Maverick and Delta 1010lt

2011-04-11 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 11.04.2011 03:41, schrieb Brian Blater:

 Would it be better to get the
BIOS sound card working for system sounds and the 1010lt for Jack etc?


Yes. That is the best solution.
The crappy onboard card does not interfere with your audiowork on the 
1010 at all.


The chipset on the delta will not work really flawless with Pulse Audio. 
But the 1010 should work perfectly well with Alsa/jack.


best regards


I would like to be able to record some system sounds like sound
clips from video files or other such stuff, but I think that can be
done through some of the Jack pluggins.

Should I just wait until 11.04 comes out and hope most of this has
been addressed? I think the lowlatency is being better addressed in
Natty at least.

Thank you for any suggestions you may have.

Brian




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Re: Run From Flash drive?

2011-03-29 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 29.03.2011 20:10, schrieb Timothy Cook:

Is it possible to 'effectively'  run Ubuntu Studio from a 16GB USB Flash
Drive?

My concern is that the drive will not be responsive enough.  Is that a valid
concern?

Thanks,
Tim


Depends on the Drive. If it is a typical cheapo-stick it will most 
likely fail to deliver data fast enough to run Ardour and other 
bandwith-intense applications such as some types of samplers.


A good, fast USB-harddisk and much more a SSD will work.

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Re: Software to play music in different temperaments?

2011-03-14 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 12.03.2011 04:43, schrieb Tim Cook:

I am not familiar with that app.  But I believe Audacity will  do what
you want as well.



Could you elaborate on how Audacity could be used for something like 
that? Is there a new module in Audacity, that handeles musical scales?



--Tim

On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 13:31 +, Angel de Vicente wrote:

Hi,

I want to experiment a bit with different tuning systems (temperaments)
so I was hoping I could find some software in which I could try some of
these, by either having some presets or by either indicating manually
the frequency for each note.


I second the recommendation for Yoshimi/Zynadd. In both you can 
configure the temperament in that Yoshimi interpretes incoming Notes. I 
*think* that some other synths like Alsa Modular Synth or Phasex will 
play incoming notes that are somewaht bended to non.standard scales as 
well.



Best of luck :-)

HZN



By searching on Google I ended up on this

page (http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/), which seems exactly what
I'm looking for. Before I download/compile/read the manual/etc. does
anyone have a comment on this software or some other similar ones (if
they exist?).

Thanks a lot,
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Re: wanted Ubuntu Studio hardware advice

2011-02-27 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 27.02.2011 15:30, schrieb Ralf:

Ancillary to Mike Holstein, IMO for audio it's important that the
graphics is passiv, no fan, no noise. Even for 3D animation any slow 3D
support is fast enough.

The power supply should have a large and slow fan.
Take care to buy silent HHDs.

I've got a question too. I'm searching for an audio device.

I've got two Terratec EWX 24/96 PCI cards and I don't like the muddy
sound. For sure, it might not only be the cards that produce this sound,
I guess it also has to do with issues for Linux audio, but OTOH those
issues might have to do with a less good driver, jackd or something else
for Envy24 cards, I dunno.


Every envy24-based card I used in the last 9 years under Linux worked 
perfectly well for me.
They need to be set up with a somewhat complicated mixer though 
(envy24control) but once done, the cards provide at least the same 
sound-quality as my Presonus Firebox, with a homeopathic lesser 
distortion and at least the same dynamics/headroom.
As long as ALSA and Jack are concerned, the ICE1712-driver for these 
cards is the best one I every used under Linux. All features available, 
perfectly stable, latency below 5ms is no problem. Only Pulse Audio does 
not work well with ICE1712...


If you want something better, go for a Hammerfall, I dare to doubt, that 
any lesser beast will deliver listenable better results.



best regs

HZN



Perhaps the audio device should cost less than 1000,- EUR or better
less, than 500,- EUR. I would prefer 4 or more IOs, but just 2 IOs would
be ok too. The most important things to me are

- no issues with Linux
- a good sound quality, at least as good as good consumer hifi equipment
- very, very, low latency to fight jitter for MIDI recordings
- if possible 4 IOs or more, but 2 IOs are ok, if the sound and handling
   is ok






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Re: Kubuntu 10.10 and real-time kernel

2011-02-26 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 26.02.2011 21:52, schrieb Scott Lavender:

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Alexandros Bitoulasalbitou...@yahoo.grwrote:


Hello everybody!



Hi Alexandros!



I run kubuntu 10.10 with 2.6.35-25-generic kernel and I am very pleased and
enthusiast about it's aesthetic feel.

However, I want to record live my guitar. With this kernel, the latency
that I
get in Jack, (with 512 frames/period, 44100 Sample Rate and 2
Periods/Buffer)
is 23.2 msec which is a little bit annoying. If I lower the Frames to 256 I
get 11.6 but I have many Xruns.



it would be helpful to know what you audio interface is to perhaps help you
get better performance.

Also, in some cases (and yours might be one) if you add the user to the
'audio' group it helps performance as well.



So, I am thinking to install the realtime kernel. The question is: are
Kubuntu
10.10 and real-time kernel full compatible with each other? Do I need to
make
any considerations/modifications in my system before installing the
real-time
kernel. Did anyone had any problems with Kubuntu 10.10 and real-time
kernel?



Good question.  But since it's all based on Ubuntu I wouldn't expect much
deviation in performance except in specific, restricted cases.



I searched on the web and I only found some generic comments like that KDE
isn't suitable for audio production, but with no serious support that
validate those comments.



I think many people would argue with that position.


KDE is not as light in terms of memory/CPU-usage as Fluxbox but if one 
disabeles the desktop-search-system, KDE will have little impact on the 
audio-performance.
Kernel and System-Setup are really important. If a capable basic-system 
is set up carefully, the desktop-system does not matter much. Running 
KDE instead of Fluxbox will not have much more impact than another Synth 
started in a session.


I use to run KDE4.3 under Suse 11.2 with jengelh-RT-kernel on my 
quad-core workstation and tested the same system with Fluxbox and LXDE 
also. I did not see any improvement of performance so I stuck with KDE 
for convenience ;-)


best regs

HZN



A good friend created and maintains that KXStudio distro which is based on
Ubuntu Studio and uses KDE.  It's brilliant and beautiful and includes a
-realtime kernel I believe.  It's a live DVD so I would highly recommend
researching it.  You can find it here:
http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/



I am looking forward to your replies and comments!

Thank you in advance,

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Re: freebob - usb midi

2011-02-18 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 18.02.2011 21:17, schrieb bart deruyter:

Hi all,

I've got a tricky thing to solve here.

Now I have a brand new Echo Audiofire12, it works perfectly for audio, but
sadly the midi port is not detected, though on the ffado website, the device
was seen as 100% compatible for ffado. I think this must be changed to 99%.

Luckily I have a midisport2x2, even though it has been reported not to be
perfect for midi recording ( a midi latency problem ), but I don't mind so
far, quantising does miracles, and I've always managed so far.

But now comes the real poblem:

Using ffado I cannot connect some software to my midisport2x2, because some
software (one major one, even pre-beta but anyway: Ardour3) only provide
midi ports for jack.

Is there a tool, or a way to setup jack so it uses firewire and alsa to get
my midi device listed in the jack midi tab?


try a2jmidi like this:

a2jmidi_bridge msport

this makes a new port called msport that shows up in both Qjackctls 
JackMIDI and ALSA-MIDI tabs.




grtz,
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Re: M-Audio Audiophile 192

2011-01-31 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 31.01.2011 16:27, schrieb Karl Giesing:



Does anyone here has the M-Audio Audiophile 192? Or know if it works well?

I have not owned the 192, but I do own the Audiophile 2496 (which is an older 
version of the same card).


Well, to some extent: yes. But the 192 has a different chipset. It 
should be supported well also though.




I've never had a single problem with the 2496, on any platform, and it's pretty 
much plug-and-play on UbuStu since 8.04 (at least).


So you do not use recent versions of Ubuntu with Pulse Audio enabeled?


In general, M-Audio PCI devices play really well with Linux, and are extremely 
good-sounding cards for the money.
I've been told to stay away from their USB devices, however -
 not because of Linux incompatibility, but because of general 
craptacularness.


Sad but true. I have a Mobile Pre USB from MAudio and in terms of 
performance and sound-quality, it is not much better than the Behringer 
UControl (that comes for around 30Euros)



-Karl.





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Re: M-Audio Audiophile 192

2011-01-30 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 30.01.2011 16:32, schrieb Ronan Jouchet:

Hi Fabio,
Have a look at the ffado device database:
http://ffado.org/?q=devicesupport%2Flistfilter0=m-audiofilter1=audiophileop2=OR
Is this the correct card?

The card mentioned is NOT a Firewire-Device.
(This is one of the reasons top-posting is not recommended - top-posters
tend not to read the message, they are answering to...)

It comes with a ICE1724-Chipset. Alsa has a driver for that chips on
board for some years now. So, yes: the card should work out of the box.

Pitfalls: Pulse Audio does NOT play well with the alsa-drivers for the
cards little siblings (ICE 1712-cards like Maudio Audiophile 1024).

Starting Jack with Qjackctl would suspend PA and thus work around this
problems.

HZN/Berlin

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Hello,

Does anyone here has the M-Audio Audiophile 192? Or know if it works well?

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=media.media_photosPID=4d7897dd8634814f14129d196e9eeb4e
**http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=media.media_photosPID=4d7897dd8634814f14129d196e9eeb4e

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Re: Reply to Tim and HZN regarding comments on Tascam US-122 on Lucid

2011-01-10 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 10.01.2011 06:45, schrieb Casey Forslund:

Hey you two - thank you SO much for the reply and your suggestions/questions
around my struggles with the Tascam US-122 and Lucid.


You are welcome :-)


HZN: Yup, I tried the ALSA tutorial you suggested (
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Tascam_US-122)  about a week ago to no
avail (no green light on the unit). I think I may just have to switch to a
different distro as you suggested, as nothing anyone has suggested has
worked for me so far. Either that or just keep using Windows to use it,
which seems so cheezy though, as I'm using Ubuntu 'STUDIO', a flavor of
Ubuntu that is supposed to focus on audio/video users etc.


I am absolutely with you and cheesy is quite perfectly a word to 
describe the situation.


I made the experience, that the best thing about Linux/free software is 
independence. So it would not be wise to depend on one specific distro.


Ubuntu is not Linux, it is just one flavour and Ubuntu Studio is much 
more Ubuntu than it is Studio.


In short: try a differnt distro. My first recommendations would be 
AVLinux (should have Alsa-firmwareloader on board) and Pure:Dyne. But 
OpenSuse or Mandriva may do the job as well and they can be tweaked 
quite easily for realtime-audio.


I run Fedora plus CCRMA and OpenSuse 11.2 plus jengelh-Kernel and 
pack-man packages. Both work very good for me...



best of luck ;-)

HZN

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Re: Chiming in on the 'cheap-usb-audio-interface' conversation

2011-01-08 Thread Hartmut Noack


Am 08.01.2011 07:30, schrieb Casey Forslund:

Hey all,

I am a newbie with Ubuntu (1yr): I've been running 10.04 Lucid (studio)
lately and I've been blown away at how tough it has been to find a soul out
there who has the skills of knowledge to troubleshoot or problem solve
getting my Tascam US-122 (which is a device that fits the exact description
of the topic I'm replying to) to work with Ubuntu. I have read EVERY posting
on the forums, official and unofficial, got a hold of some VERY
knowledgeable and extremely helpful Ubuntu veterans, but my US-122 is still
dead in the water. I'm just wondering if any of you wants to have mercy on
me and see if you can come up with any options I can pursue. I guess the
second part of this message is that if no one out there can help me, don't
buy a tascam US-122, as I have spent (genuinely) over 30 hours of my time
trying to get this thing to even blink, to no avail.


Did you followed this one:

http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Tascam_US-122

?

If so, and it still doeas not work, I would consider to switch to a 
different Linux Distro. I have seen this particular interface working 
perfectly well under Debian, 64Studio, Suse and even Gentoo...


Nonetheless you should try to make Ubuntu Studio working first.

Also Pulse Audio could be a hindrance. PA does not work very well with 
devices that do not fit in the typical desktop/office audio type of 
thing. So I am quite sure, that you device can work best after 
installing/configuring alsa-firmware-loader and running it with jack 
using qjackctl.


best regs

HZN



From a noob's (very
limited) perspective, I am quite disappointed in the Studio version of
Ubuntu, as it hasn't been able to work with my hardware, even after tons of
homework, consulting, trial and error etc.





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Re: Wineasio, Guitar Rig and Jack issue on Maverik, AMD 64

2010-12-28 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 25.12.2010 15:01, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
 On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 12:34 +0100, Ronan Jouchet wrote:
 On 10-12-25 12:58 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
 Am 22.12.2010 19:55, schrieb Scott Lavender:
 On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM, NGnoisygui...@yahoo.com   wrote:

...

 You might also try Guitarix instead of Rakarrack.

 http://guitarix.sourceforge.net/

 Guitarix can't replace Rakarrack and to be fair,

It depends on what do you want. If you want a software, that emulates a 
(very good)standard-amp with a set of standard-effects plus a convolver 
guitarix would be (and is actually) my first choice.
If you need more FX, Rakarrack could be better. But to be perfectly 
honest: in the end it is a matter of personal taste. Guitarix can do 
perfectly the same as Rakarrack.

 Rakarrack can't replace
 Guitarix, OTOH simply using Fon's Jconvolver + some distortion might be
 near to be able to replace Guitarix, but it still won't replace
 Rakarrack.
 Rakarrack can be used for professional sounding Hardrock guitars in the
 style of the 80s, IMO it's nearly possible to reproduce the genius sound
 of LPs like I against I from the Bad Brains, just by playing the
 guitar to the mixing console, without an guitar amp, when using
 Rakarrack. Well, 70s and ex 80s style IMO can't be emulated good by
 software effects.

Guitarix has made profound progress in the last 6 months. A recent 
version can produce any sound one would expect from a real amp from the 
pro-league. If you apply impulse-responses from a sound, you can have 
virtually any sound with it.
But emulation of existing sounds is nice, if you like such tricks. Much 
more important for me is, that Guitarix takes the signal from my guitars 
very very similar as a real amp does. Given you use a 
middleclass-interface like the instrument-in of a MAudio mobile pre or a 
simple mixer and a envy24-card you can actually sweep from slightely 
overdrive clean-sounds to crushing distortion by using the volume-wheel 
on the guitar. All the finery in playing guitar-strings from sweet low 
caressing to most brutal strumming shred is preserved. This is a feature 
I miss in most other digital modeling solutions.
It shall not sound good it shall sound like me ;-)

best regs

HZN


 2 cents,
 Ralf


 I second that absolutely 101%. If you build it from source you can get
 the variant gx_head as well that presents the software indeed as real amp.

 Hi NG,

 Back to the subject, this howto (and its comments) could help you to get
 wineasio up:
 http://www.davehayes.org/2007/04/27/howto-reaper-on-ubuntu-linux-with-wineasio/

 Meeerry Christmas :)

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Re: Parametric Equalizer

2010-12-24 Thread Hartmut Noack

Hello Miranda,

Am 22.12.2010 16:49, schrieb Miranda Pennington:
 Thanks to everyone who has responded to my first question here on the
 mailing list :)

 I am wondering if anyone has found a decent parametric equalizer plugin for
 using with ardour or another program. Something that allows you to control
 the Q for any adjustment and has a graphic representation showing the EQ
 adjustment as a point on a curve.

The LV2-CALF-Plugins  will have an EQ like this. If you like to have a 
look upon these wonders today you need to build a recent snapshot of 
their developer-repo. You can get the source-codes like this:

  git clone http://repo.or.cz/r/calf.git

You need to install a git-client for that.

If you want something stable and from a package you should have a look 
at jamin. Jamin can do all the things you ask and much more but it is 
not a plugin. You may run it as a standalone and connect its ports to 
Ardours mixer. But it will not be saved in the ardour-projectfile so you 
have to start it again by hand if you open the same project again.

best of luck

HZN





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Re: Wineasio, Guitar Rig and Jack issue on Maverik, AMD 64

2010-12-24 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 22.12.2010 19:55, schrieb Scott Lavender:
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM, NGnoisygui...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi Ronan, Thanks for the fast reply!

I've tried the native apps you mention. Calf plugins have a nice
modulation tools that I'll be using, Scooperlooper will come in handy indeed
and as for Rakarrack, although it seems promising, lacks of a good amp and
overdrive/distortion emulator, and this functionality is critical for the
work I intent to do. The ideal thing would be using my real amp and stomp
boxes, but I live in a small place and I know I will disturb the
neighbours.

I would love to be using pure libre/open source software and hope one day
Rakarrack becomes a great emulator, but in the mean time, Guitar Rig is the
only one that gets close (and works in linux)to the tone of my real set-up.
If anybody else know of any other open source emulator I can try please let
me know.

Anyway, I apologize for not providing further details. Here they are:

0. Kernel: 2.6.35-23-generic
1. Jack starts and run without interruptions (I've being testing it for
some days)
2. All native apps I've tried work smoothly (Ardour, Rakarrack, calf
plugin, Jack rack, Hydrogen, etc )

3. Never heard of Reaper. Just went to the website and installed the 32 bit
version (tried 64 bit version but didn't work). In the Audio device window
I chose ASIO as my Audio device and then Wine ASIO Driver in the next
drop box. The drop boxes Enable input and Output range are empty and
when pressing the button ASIO Configuration... nothing happens.

When done, I got an error window: Error initializing ASIO driver :(

I have downgraded Wine to the default version (1.2) to narrow down the
possibilities and still using
wineasio-beta_0.9.0~beta0_64bit.debhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/kxstudio/files/DEBs/wineasio-beta_0.9.0%7Ebeta0_64bit.deb/downloadfound
here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kxstudio/files/DEBs/. Reaper was installed
over Wine 1.2.

BTW, to installed wineasio, I extracted the DEB file and copy
wineasio.dll to /lib32/wine/. then I run regsvr32 wineasio.dll
sucessfully and finally installed Reaper. Did it this way because I read in
a forum that the DEB was compiled using Ubuntu lucid not maverik, so this
method was suggested.

I'll try to get into the IRC channel.

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You might also try Guitarix instead of Rakarrack.

http://guitarix.sourceforge.net/

I second that absolutely 101%. If you build it from source you can get
the variant gx_head as well that presents the software indeed as real amp.

best regs... HZN

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Re: minimal distribution - maximum sound??

2010-12-19 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 17.12.2010 21:16, schrieb Mike Holstein:
 On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:18 PM, kirko birilliwhyshen...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:

 hi there,

 i would like to know if somebody got experience with running audio apps on
 a small as possible distro tailor made for your own machines.i install
 usually the whole lot and then just try to get things done.a friend of mine
 uses his old laptop as kind of tekkno instrument.he got his sounds together
 with pure data and uses the keyboard as kind of piano.he still got windoze
 xp on it and i wonder if that doesn´t eat lots of power he could better use
 for audio tasks.
 so what are you doing to get the maximum out of your machines and is it
 possible just to get a minimal install something like tiny core with 10mb
 and add the rest after?

This might be a good idea but do not be fooled by things visible. It is 
an illusion to believe, that changing from KDE or GNOME to LXDE or 
Fluxbox will help a lot. It *can* save RAM but CPU-load and much more 
important: unwanted interruptions of jack will be reduced greatly by 
just changing the DE.
There are background-things like udev or network-manager, that produce a 
much bigger burden and they can run also if Fluxbox is up.

I dare to say: if you set up your system really carfully (rt-kernel, 
udev-rules, limits etc) you get better performance with a stripped-down 
KDE than someone who believes, just installing Lubuntu will do the trick.


 i have got loads of old laptops around and would like to get them
 swinging.any suggestions?
 cheers
 shen

 there is a really cool light-weight distro that i think you might want to
 look at for learning purposes.. http://dynebolic.org/ ...

Dynebolic really made the grade for me on older hardware (running 
Zynaddsubfx on a PII-Notebook with 128MB RAM...)

But it never was a real-world-distro it even lacks a package-management.

The smalles audio-distro I ever tested was bardix. It was Gentoo-based 
and came as a live-image about 100MB. The performance though, was not so 
much better than pure:dyne and it was grotesqly spartanic.



 i dont think you
 would want to actually use it right now because the packages are quite out
 of date, but it does *fly* on older hardware (and it flies like that from a
 live CD too)... in theory* you can just install ubuntu, normal vanilla
 ubuntu and take advantage of some meta-packages such as lubuntu-deskop or
 xubuntu-desktop and have LXDE or XFCE instead of gnome or KDE running. then,
 you could add whatever software from ubuntustudio (meta-packages, or just
 what you need). no reason why all of those packages wont run in LXDE and/or
 XFCE... OR you could just install xubuntu or lubuntu and use one of those
 versions as a 'base'... all the official variants use the same buntu repos
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Re: Shifting pitch in a MIDI file?

2010-12-13 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Hello Angel,

Am 13.12.2010 13:59, schrieb Angel de Vicente:
 Hi all,
 
 yesterday I was trying to find a way to shift the pitch in a MIDI file 

You need to tune the instrument, that plays the MIDI-file.

Since MIDI-files contain only abstract desriptions of what should be
played (e.g. notes) they do not know anything about pitch. Notes can be
transposed, which is quite a different thing. Rosegarden offers
transposing so you could load your MIDI-file in RG and say: transpose
this piece 3 halfnotes up/down until it sounds the way you wish.

But I guess, this is not what you want and it would be only but a crude
workaround for the problem in question.

Better you tune the instrument. First step would be, to leave the easy
world of automagic and enter the grim realm of find out yourself, what
is really happening. . ;-)

Some program plays you file using a soundfont. If this one is timidity I
would yield in your place and switch to a soundfondplayer with a
convenient GUI. Qsynth is one but there are others, that allow graphical
handling of fluidsynth also.
Find the knob/slider that allows you to set the basic tuning(will be set
to 440) and fiddle with it until it sounds as you wish.

BUT: this also is, in some way, a workaround.

Others have already mentioned the samplerate-kind-of-thing. Most cheap
soundchips only run at 48KHz and leave the job to adjust the samplerate
of 44.1-samples to the software, that plays the these.

But alas: some programs dont resample (for the sake of better
performance). So in this case you have 2 choices:

1.) try to resample the soundfont itself to 48KHz
2.) start jack with 48 KHz and use  a soundfont-player that actually
does resampling to jacks rate if needed.

The latter is warmly recommended

best regards

HZN



 but couldn't figure out a way to do it, so I'm looking for advice here...
 
 My situation is as follows. I have a MIDI file of a piece (for four 
 guitars), and I just want to mute one of the tracks and play along with 
 my real guitar (a sort of virtual quartet...). But the problem is that 
 the tuning of my computer is wrong (I read somewhere that DELL laptops 
 had this problem. I'm not sure, but in any case the standard A at 440Hz 
 sounds actually like a C).
 
 I could tune up my guitar, but that is quite inconvenient, specially if 
 later I want to play with more instruments, so I was hoping that I could 
 find a way to tune up or down the whole MIDI output. The Virtual 
 Keyboard has a pitch wheel, which it would be exactly what I'm looking 
 for if it could be applied to the whole MIDI output... In Rosegarden I 
 didn't find anything... In Qtractor I could load up plugins that seemed 
 promising (if I remember correctly I could find four plugins with names 
 like pitchshift, but I couldn't make them to work, plus they applied to 
 individual tracks, and not to the whole MIDI output).
 
 Any pointers?
 
 Thanks,
 Ángel de Vicente

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Re: Shifting pitch in a MIDI file?

2010-12-13 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 14.12.2010 00:50, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:

 Yep, IMO the issue is solved and a report to Rui, the coder of the
 'Q'thingies  (or to the folks who program FluidSynth) might be useful.
 There should be no need for musicians without technical knowledge, to
 run into this trouble. Sample rate conversion should be done
 automatically.

No, it should not.

While it is perfectly OK for a mediaplayer do handle samplerate-issues, 
  productive audio software can suffer a decrease of performance, if it 
handles such conversions. So samplerate-conversion is clearly *not* a 
must-have.


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Re: Shifting pitch in a MIDI file?

2010-12-13 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 14.12.2010 01:27, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
 On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 01:20 +0100, Hartmut Noack wrote:
 Am 14.12.2010 00:50, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:

 Yep, IMO the issue is solved and a report to Rui, the coder of the
 'Q'thingies  (or to the folks who program FluidSynth) might be useful.
 There should be no need for musicians without technical knowledge, to
 run into this trouble. Sample rate conversion should be done
 automatically.

 No, it should not.

 While it is perfectly OK for a mediaplayer do handle samplerate-issues,
productive audio software can suffer a decrease of performance, if it
 handles such conversions. So samplerate-conversion is clearly *not* a
 must-have.

 Full ACK, perhaps I did use the wrong words. I guess an auto-detection
 about the sample rate, that is used by JACK + an automatic selection for
 the used sample rate, by a virtual synth should do the trick

In the sense of such a feature should be available easily I agree 
completely.

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Re: firepod midi support

2010-12-02 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 02.12.2010 16:50, schrieb mentoj dija:
 ah damn it. i completely forgott about the fack-midi-tab. cheers for that!!!
 but how to connect the (now listed) firepod midi in in the jack tab 
 with something (in my case ams) in the alsa-midi-tab?

try a2jmidi_bridge.
This little app creates MIDI-Ports that can build bridges between
ALSA-only apps like AMS and JACK-MIDI.

 
 
 On 01.12.2010 20:24, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 20:21 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 20:11 +0100, martin wrote:
 Am 01.12.2010 00:51, schrieb Ronan Jouchet:
 I think it should.
 What does the MIDI tab of qjackctl report?

 Ronan

 On 10-11-30 06:35 PM, mentoj dija wrote:

 so thank you guys for your help to start my firepod running. a brilliant
 device. there is only one futher question: does the midi-interface built
 in the pod work out of the box? well, it doesn't in my case... what do?

 cheers



 ah, sry. i forgot. yea, there is no device listet in the midi-tab. which
 is strange, because i just got another cheap midi-usb-interface which
 worked out of the box with linux (not with windows xp, but thats another
 storry).

 USB and MIDI are a no-go! USB MIDInterfaces do work with Linux and they
 should work with Windows too, but you should notice unbearable jitter.

Never noticed something like that. My USB-Keyboards feels like working
OK

 On Linux you should enable the high resolution timer, when using an USB
 interface.
 PS:

 Oops, JACK MIDI vs ALSA MIDI, of course there's no MIDI device listed as
 a JACK MIDI device ;).


 
 


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Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-31 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 31.10.2010 16:12, schrieb Scott Lavender:
 Firstly, thank you everyone for replying.

You are very welcome .-)


 I am concerned with the number of video applications we may be acquiring
 in the workflows now.  Currently, OpenShot, Avidemux, and OpenMovieEditor
 are all included.

I understand the concern and that it is indeed a complicated task to
find a sane and working set of video-apps for Linux.

Since the free video-apps are by far not that mature as the audio-stuff
I can only add some more points for the discussion.

Avidemux is some kind of a swiss-army-knife for working with
video-files. I did use it 2 or 3 times as a video-editor but I use it
frequently to extract audio and manipulate formats. There are great
commandline-apps for these tasks and these are easy to use. But it is
not at all easy to know all the options you have in the jungle of
formats for video so I consider Avidemux a very user-friendly app since
it allows to work with these options intuitive. (Somewhat like
PHPMyAdmin if you start working with MySQL...)

 
 OpenShot is arguably the easierst, most user friendly video editor.

OpenShot is nice and its design is very promising. But as I tested it in
May last year I had so many crashes in so many different normal
situations, that I must say: if it was not developped in a most
astounding speed in the last months, it cannot be considered a
application ready for end-users.

  I
 understand that Avidemux might not be considered a video editor per se,
 but allows audio to be stripped easily.  OpenMovieEditor apparently is JACK
 aware 

It has the best Jack-implementation I ever had the fun using with a
video-editor. It produces crashes also that can give you a situation, if
you are working in a studio with a customer but I made several
video-projects with it and the work went like a breeze - its
desaster-recovery system faild only once in 10-12 crashes I had with it
in several hundred houres of work. So I would say: even while 1 crash in
10 h is still much too much, it is recommendable.

 (I thought LiVes was the only JACK capable video application).
 
 Each seems to have a strong point, but I was wondering if it was possible to
 consolidate these applications choices to reduce their numbers.  If an easy
 solution does not present itself and it is the best interest of
 functionality to keep all the applications, then it would seem that we
 should keep all the applications.

For starters I think, OME should be enough (given, that all the
frei0r-plugins and of course ffmpeg are on board also).

But the users should be informed in a nice and understandable way, that
much more is possible, if they install a list of additional apps.

 
 My suggestion, at this point, would be to replace OpenShot with
 OpenMovieEditor in the Create a Home Movie task.  But I admit that I
 haven't used OME in quite some time and am not aware how it compares to
 OpenShot in terms of usability and friendliness.

Unfortunately, OME is not actively developed these days. Since it is
still one great app, I still would recommend its inclusion - maybe this
could even lure Richard Spindler into further developing it ;-)

 LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not*
 doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it.

 
 I wish that you do not take my statements in a derogatory or hostile
 manner.  However, I think it would be unfortunate if we were to include LMMS
 (or any application) solely on the arguments presented above.

Absolutely no offence ment. :-)

But let me advocate LMMS some more:

Workflow: Creating electronic music for absolute beginners.

Requirements: LMMS

* open LMMS and choose alsa for audio-i/o
* drag some instruments, presets and/or samples from the browser at the
left to beatlines or tracks
* hit play and have fun
* invite you good friends rightklick, middleklick and the CTRL-key to
the party and have more fun
* connect any MIDI-Keyboard/Controller to tracks and parameters and have
serious fun.


Lmms is the most beginner-friendly sequencer I ever have seen under
Linux and it is at the same time capable enough to do complex advanced
stuff with it also. Qtractor is much more complicated. But while
Qtractor comes with Support for DSSI and LV2 and very capable
Audiotracks, LMMS has only crude sample-tracks and knows only LADSPA (it
comes whith great built-in synths/samplers though and can be compiled to
use VST).

So both have their audience and their unique powers. Users, that come
from Windows/Mac are used to have *all* these powers available and a
Linux-distro geared towards creative users should offer as much powers
as the free-software-devs are providing.So yes: both are sequencers but
if you want to make people happy, you should have both.

Beginners will be appalled by the learning curve Qtractor demands, some
more experienced users would be disappointed, if the flexibility and
audio-capabilities of Qtractor would not be available. So I think,
giving both a place in

Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-30 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 30.10.2010 20:51, schrieb saearea-t...@yahoo.com:
 Hello Hartmut,
 
 thank you very much for the additional work-flow description! Looks great, 
 but I am sorry that I can't test it.


Sad - any particular reasons?

You can simplyfy the workflow if you skip the avidemux-excursion. You
can record the given soundtrack in Ardour as it is being played in OME.
Less elegant but simple and just works ;-)

Also if you do not need MIDI-composing, you can work it out with Ardour
and OME alone...

good luck :-)

HZN


 
 Best regards,
 
 Stefan



 
 
 
 --- Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de schrieb am Sa, 30.10.2010:
 
 Von: Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de
 Betreff: Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
 An: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
 Datum: Samstag, 30. Oktober, 2010 19:09 Uhr
 
 Am 29.10.2010 23:36, schrieb Scott Lavender:
 Hello again.

 

 For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find
 the task and workflow wiki page at:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows

 I have added a workflow for video-postproduction. Comments welcome :-)
 
 All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions!
 We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already
 extant, please add yours as an alternative and do not remove the other.

 Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the
 term package set.  This term is a reference to the applications installed
 by default with Ubuntu Studio.  These packages are NOT being removed from
 the archives.  You can always install these packages at any time, by any
 method of choice.  We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on
 the Ubuntu Studio ISO.

 Right.  Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the
 currently installed package set will change for Natty.

 These will be new packages (or applications) installed by default when
 installing Ubuntu Studio:
   * guitarix
   * hydrogen-drumkits
   * lashd
   * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond)
   * phasex
   * qtractor (to replace seq24)
 
 Qtractor is by no means a replacement for seq24. It is just a completely
 different application.
 Seq24 is a pattern-oriented sequencer taht can be used for
 live-performance in ways that qtractor cannot be used and is not
 intended to be used.
 I would consider it a big mistake to remove Seq24. To replace it with
 qtractor would be like replacing a helicopter with an Airbus.
 
   * specimen
   * whysynth
   * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx)

 These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu
 Studio, but will no longer be:
   * aconnectgui
   * audacity
 
 I find this logical since Audacity does not fit very well into Jack.
 Still I wonder what would be the replacement for it (Ardour for more
 sophisticated waveediting and Mhawaveedit for simle tasks could be a
 sane recommendation for Audacity-users I guess.
 
   * beast
   * bitscope
   * bristol
   * csound
   * denemo (replaced by mscore)
   * freebirth
   * freqtweak
   * genpo
   * jackeq
   * jacktools
   * jdelay
   * lillypond (replaced by mscore)
   * lmms
 
 LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not*
 doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it.
 
   * mixxx
   * muse
   * qamix
   * seq24 (replaced by qtractor)
 
 see above - I strongly recommend to keep Seq24.
 
   * terminatorx
   * timemachine
 
 Many like timemachine and will be disappointed not to find it
 automatically installed. Though I would not consider it essential.
 
 best regs
 
 HZN/berlin
 
   * timidity
   * tk707
   * xwax
   * zynaddsubfx

 Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in
 essence more useful.  Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not
 just run an application.  The current status of the package set (
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was
 developed to assist users accomplish tasks.

 If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but
 you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop
 a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows

 This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included
 with Ubuntu Studio.

 ScottL


 
 


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Re: Ubuntu Studio Project Lead

2010-06-08 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 08.06.2010 01:53, schrieb teza:
 Le 07/06/2010 22:29, Hartmut Noack a écrit :

 Hi, I agree for Guitarix this software made a big jump lately. Where did
 you find the calf plugin you show in the picture?

This is the stand of affairs in:

http://repo.or.cz/r/calf.git

:-) :-)

most of the new plug ins are from Markus Schmidt:

http://mein-neues-blog.de/2010/01/27/aktuell-linux-audio-goes-professional/

 Thanks
 Best Regards
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Re: Ubuntu Studio Project Lead

2010-06-07 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 07.06.2010 21:46, schrieb Scott Lavender:


 As project lead I hope to provide active, direct leadership in a transparent
 manner.

Transparency is indeed crucial. It is a major advantage of free software 
and I think it could be pushed some more in Ubuntu overall. Personally I 
have noticed your efforts in that field and appreciate them a lot :-)

 We are working on JACK and Pulse Audio integration via dbus and the Alpha 1
 ISO is available for all to begin testing.  Obviously finding stable
 integration between JACK and Pulse Audio would be a marked improvement in
 usability.

I love to see this improve but still I think, it will not be easy to 
diminish the hatred against PA that many users have accumulated.

The overall design of PA is capable to solve many many problems for 
Linux Audio and I think, we have no better approach and I am sure, that 
nobdy on earth really wants any all new experiments so PA should be 
pushed I think.

BUT to gain the trust of the users PA must become much more 
user-configurable then before. The first step should be a disable 
PA-switch in a decent, accessible GUI (could be a mixer). This should 
be possible *without* removing PA alltogether and PA should be really 
absolute passive if this switch is flicked by the user.


 LV2 plugins are another area of improvement.  We began packaging these last
 cycle and continue this cycle.

That is very good news :-)
Can we have the all-new CALF-stuff from SVN?

 Please let us know how we can improve Ubuntu Studio for you, just remember
 that we work within the Ubuntu paradigm, so all improvements must comply
 with those systemic restrictions (e.g. all applications in the official
 repositories).

Guitarix is very important and it makes astounding progress at the 
moment. Brummer and freinds made this little crushing amp a veritable 
powerstack usable for serious studio-use with full MIDI-learn, built-in 
convolution-engine and many other pro-grade features.
And i have to stress this again: the new CALF-Plugins that are in the 
works now will be a revolution in the world of native plugins for Linux. 
Some are entirely new like the sidechain-compressor, others replace 
bit-rotten LADSPA-plugins that do not work anymore like the powerfull 
deesser. And most of them work allready:

http://lapoc.de/img/calf-new10.png

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Re: Ubuntu Studio Project Lead

2010-06-07 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 07.06.2010 22:32, schrieb laurent.bellegarde:

 - Many people ask about software distribution, for many, UBS is too
 music edition designed, and not enough image/Video edition completed.

Sorry but whenever I read this, I fail to understand it. There is 
absolutely NO overweight of music-production capabilities in UBS.
Maybe people get this feeling as they see the long list of music-apps in 
the menu but this has reasons, that are intrinsic in the design of audio 
production on computers in general and even more in Linux. It is 
modular. You have synths, samplers, sequencers, hd-recorders/editors, 
FX, score-editors, tuners, utilities and DAWs like Rosegarden and 
Ardour. It would be nonsense, to cut that list just to make it look less 
music-centered.
On the other hand, there are not that many different small apps for 
Linux in the field of graphics. But GIMP and Inkscape offer much more 
for graphics then say, zynaddsubfx for music. Still zynadd is important 
for it is specialized on creating synth-sounds and it is very good on 
this. There is no graphics-app like zynadd, you can do it all in GIMP. 
For 3d there is Blender and if there is anything for sound, that can be 
compared to Blender then its Ardour so 3d-people will be OK with that, I 
do not know any free 3d-modeling-app that could offer something, Blender 
cannot do. In a word: I do not know any available Linux-app for 
graphics, that is missing in UBS.(Krita could be a candidate, but it is 
not there yet in terms of stability).

PLUS: Audio is most important for UBS because one can install GIMP, 
Blender, Synfig, Inkscape or any other graphics-app on any standard 
generic Linux and it will work. Not so will jack, Ardour and the like, 
they need a system, that is carefully tweaked to RT-needs and a generic 
Linux would not be adeaquate. And Video-apps need more or less the same 
tweaks.

So, if users say, they find UBS to be too much focused on audio, one 
should explain, that this is not the case and not try to follow 
customer-demands that derive from wrong assumtions made at first-glance.

best regs
HZN

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Re: What's wrong with jack ?

2010-06-01 Thread Hartmut Noack

Am 31.05.2010 14:40, schrieb Pablo Fernandez:
 I agree that jack should work out of the box in ubuntustudio but I don't
 agree that pulseaudio should not be the default audio system.

 In many cases, jack does not suit users well but pulseaudio is fine.

PA has the potential to solve a lot of old problems in Linux Desktop 
audio for good but it is not there yet. So the user should have the 
option to disable it completely - the same as he/she has the option not 
to use nautilus or apache.
And this should be possible *without* deinstalling it.

 As I see it, Jack is a must  for audio production, but not for audio in
 general. For example, if you have a surround system like in a home cinema,
 pulseaudio is the audio system that just works. Not jack.



 Am I supposed to *rm /usr/bin/pulseaudio* to make jack work ?

This may or may not work I suppose it will not for it canwill break many 
other things on the desktop, crashing apps etc.

 just that Ubuntu Studio is not ready to be used for music production in a
 real sense ? = it is just for testing and experimenting


 US is almost there. Imho, US should add the first user to the audio group
 automatically so that jackd starts out of the box from qjackctl. jackd post
 inst script (in lucid) gives the users in the audio group the privileges
 that jackd needs.

Again: is there ANY sane reason, that this script does not edit 
/etc/security/limits.conf?

The script works but it breaks standards, that used to work like a charm 
for years now in the Linux audio realm. Asking G how to setup linux for 
jack turns out dozens of tutorials how to set up limits.conf. All of 
those work perfectly well on any Linux.

Plus, as you mention yourself later on, the script must set up group 
audio as well, this is a no-brainer and I really do not know, why the 
packagers do not implement that.

 For the rest, qjackctl launches pasuspender so pulseaudio is (almost) out of
 the way.

I recommend that. It works very much OK for me.

 Afaik, a cleaner approach than pasuspender or the rm you suggest in getting
 rid of pulseaudio is the following:

 qjackctl --  Options tab, execute script on startup:
 pulseaudio -k

 (this kills pulseaudio) (artsshell sounds like jurasic)

 However, pulseaudio will respawn automatically if you don't do the
 following:

 $ sudo edit /etc/pulse/client.conf

 Change the line:
 ; autospawn = yes
 to:
 autospawn = no

 If you wish to start pulseaudio, once the jack session is finished:

 $ pulseaudio --start

This methods I tried in Open Suse 11.2 and it broke my system so 
globally and totally that I abandoned the OpenSuse-Installation. So I 
really recommend to check out, if pasuspender does the trick or try a 
system, that is 100% geared towards audio-power use such as pure:dyne or 
AVLinux. Both outperform anything else in audio today but they are not 
as nice a desktop as Ubuntu and they do not have such a big community 
and most of all: they lack the near-perfectly integrated big 
repositories Ubuntu has.


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Re: NVIDIA-drivers for the rt-kernel

2010-05-11 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Am 11.05.2010 00:40, schrieb Gerhard Lang:
 Moin Hartmut,
 
 I was messing around with lucid's amd64 betas and some bleeding-edge 
 ppas (not on productive partition ;) ) and suddenly Nvidia proprietary 
 drivers stopped working.
 So I had to remove these ppas, downgrade all xorg stuff to lucid 
 standards, remove jockey and all nvidia stuff besides nv, and installed 
 last driver from Nvidia's site manually as described in many howtos. Now 
 ubuntu's kernels 2.6.31-10-rt and 2.6.31-12-realtime again cooperate 
 with Nvidia 172.14.25 and my old fx5200.

I feared that it would turn out this way :-|

To be honest: of course I could fetch the driver from nividia.com and
install it from scratch but I thought, Ubuntu would solve these garbage
details with some klicks. So it did before flawlessly on the very same
machine and it still works with the generic kernel.

In the end it means, that I cannot recommend UbuntuStudio for musicians
that would like to switch...

 I love this legacy card due to 
 it's noiseless passive cooling.
 But it may depend on your card and driver. Did you give nvnews and their 
 linux section a look?
 
 Gruesse

Danke  :-) bis bald

HZN

 
 bluesscream
 
 Am 10.05.2010 19:36, schrieb Hartmut Noack:
 Hello,
 
 now, that Ubuntu 10.4 is official, I thought I could use it with the
 rt-kernel but my experience with it was not so exiting, but more like
 kinda upsetting to say the least:
 
 jockey fails to install the correct NVDIA-module for the rt-kernel, it
 does so several times for all variants of the NVIDIA-modules available.
 
 Installing Ubuntu-studio settings activates GDM without asking, if I
 would prefer to keep KDM.
 
 GDM chooses XFCE when starting though I never have asked for that too.
 Next time it likes to choose KDE4 - is there a random number generator
 in use?
 
 But these are mere oddities - the main trouble is NVIDIA.
 
 what can I do ?
 
 best regards
 
 HZN


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NVIDIA-drivers for the rt-kernel

2010-05-10 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Hello,

now, that Ubuntu 10.4 is official, I thought I could use it with the
rt-kernel but my experience with it was not so exiting, but more like
kinda upsetting to say the least:

jockey fails to install the correct NVDIA-module for the rt-kernel, it
does so several times for all variants of the NVIDIA-modules available.

Installing Ubuntu-studio settings activates GDM without asking, if I
would prefer to keep KDM.

GDM chooses XFCE when starting though I never have asked for that too.
Next time it likes to choose KDE4 - is there a random number generator
in use?

But these are mere oddities - the main trouble is NVIDIA.

what can I do ?

best regards

HZN
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Re: [LAU] M-Audio Audiophile 2496 on modern Ubuntu

2010-04-07 Thread Hartmut Noack

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 Am 05.04.2010 19:18, schrieb Joshua Boyd:
   
 Does anyone have a M-Audio 2496 card working in a recent Ubuntu
 distribution?
 
 I never had my M-Audio 24/96 working out of the box since Hardy,

It worked for me in 9.4 and 9.10 and 10.4 alpha under KDE - no real
trouble, only the Desktopmixer did not do well. That is not cool but can
easily be solved using envy24control, wich is the dedicated mixer for
that chipset anyway.

And it always worked flawlessly with jack. Once limits.conf was set of
course. That Ubuntu*Studio* does not configure limits.conf out of the
box is another story...

best regs

HZN
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Re: [LAU] M-Audio Audiophile 2496 on modern Ubuntu

2010-04-07 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Am 07.04.2010 22:25, schrieb Scott Lavender:
 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.dewrote:
 

 And it always worked flawlessly with jack. Once limits.conf was set of
 course. That Ubuntu*Studio* does not configure limits.conf out of the
 box is another story...

 best regs

 HZN

 
 Interesting you mention this as I recently ran across a LAU mail that
 suggests it will set automatically by JACK in
 /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf and editing /etc/security/limits.conf will
 therefore be unnecessary.

There will be some improvement in 10.4 due to jacks inclusion in main I
guess. The package for jack sets the rtprio-parameter in limits.conf.
Still it fails to set a reasonably value for memlock and most of all: it
does not add any user to @audio so the whole thing still does not solve
anything effectively ...


hope, this will be fixed in lucids final...

best regs

HZN
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Re: [LAU] M-Audio Audiophile 2496 on modern Ubuntu

2010-04-06 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Am 05.04.2010 19:18, schrieb Joshua Boyd:
 Does anyone have a M-Audio 2496 card working in a recent Ubuntu
 distribution?

Yes mine works OK with jack in UStudio 9.10 and with the Live-CD of
KUBNTU 10.4 alpha.

 If I use aplay -L, this is the output:
 front:CARD=M2496,DEV=0
 M Audio Audiophile 24/96, ICE1712 multi
 Front speakers
 surround40:CARD=M2496,DEV=0
 M Audio Audiophile 24/96, ICE1712 multi
 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
 surround41:CARD=M2496,DEV=0
 M Audio Audiophile 24/96, ICE1712 multi
 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
 surround50:CARD=M2496,DEV=0
 M Audio Audiophile 24/96, ICE1712 multi
 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
 surround51:CARD=M2496,DEV=0
 M Audio Audiophile 24/96, ICE1712 multi
 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
 iec958:CARD=M2496,DEV=0
 M Audio Audiophile 24/96, ICE1712 multi
 IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output

This is terribly wrong, the 2496 is Stereo so I guess, ALSA mixed it up
with the terratec 5.1 that uses the very same chipset.

What does envy24 do with the card and what can you do with it with jack?

best regs

HZN
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Re: not sure where to ask this question, about the audio production possibilities...

2010-03-30 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Am 30.03.2010 01:45, schrieb mac:
 On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 01:30 +0200, Hartmut Noack wrote:

 Hi from the Ardour web page:
 
 Non-destructive, non-linear editing with unlimited undo
 
 What you describe above is indeed modifying the recording, I don't
 believe it is considered destructive editing.

As I said: it comes near the thing, that is known as destructive
editing yet it is not the very same.

 Audacity will allow the wave form to be edited on a per sample basis,
 actually changing the value of the sample at will. I believe this is
 considered destructive editing.


True: you cannot zoom to the single-sample level in Ardour and thus you
cannot edit single samples. So, if you need to diminish a single sample,
because it is broken, you would need to paint a curve, that manipulates
ca 20 samples.

Audacity allows such tricks, the question is: what do you need? Having
an editor, that is completely non-destructive has its charme sometimes,
especially if you want to use processor-plugins like compressors or
eqalization. Bit for such things Audacity is a no-go anyways, for it
cannot play the sound as you set the parameters, you want to apply.

So for special editing-tasks Audacity is only rivaled by SND, yet for
the majority of things you will want to do with recordings, Ardour has
much more to offer.
Both are great, free programs and it Audacity would only fit smoothly
into jack, it would be highly recommendable

best regs

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Re: usb audio interface

2010-03-01 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Am 27.02.2010 18:51, schrieb Peter Berlau:
 Hello,
 
 I need a USB audio Interface, like to have 
 
 minimum 8 In/Out 

This would be a USB2-device. If you are lucky enough, to find something
class-compliant, it will work ootb, most of these devices do not
whatsoever. So, if you really need so many i/o I recommend a FW-device also:
http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list


 works with audacity

?
audacity is absolutely not the 1st choice for multitracking under Linux.
You really should have a look at Ardour or, if the bigger A seems to be
too heavy for your machine, try Traverso, this one is very light and
runs very well on small displays(netbooks etc).

But if there are no reall obstacles, try Ardour.

 
 need no phantompower
 
 
 wish to have a seperate In/Out Box which is connected to the USB and not
 only a Multi-Link-Cable-Connection...
 
 Must not have midi, but it would great if interface can work as
 audio-soundcard too, and... it should not make ( a lot of ) noise...
 
 
 Should work with Debian Stable (5.x) also, or, please. specify Ubuntu
 Version...
 
 
 Thanks for advice and help,
 all the best Peter
 
 

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Re: Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase

2010-01-28 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Am 28.01.2010 21:09, schrieb Ricardo Lameiro:
 AFAIK they will enforce the 1Mb rule. they have very limited space on the CD

Well then I wonder, for what audience the CD shall be attractive...
Back in the 90ies some of my friends where very much into
underground-grindcore 7-vinyls. Records invented for 10 minutes playing
time at best that where filled with at least a few hundred songs with
2 or 5 seconds(!!) playing time each. A band playing a tune longer than
30 seconds was considered stadium-rock whimps...

Maybe I could do a little retro-session remembering these good old
times. 20 tracks in 1MB with 192kbps should not be a problem ;-)

best regs
HZN

 
 2010/1/28 Tommy yeah allornothin.to...@gmail.com
 
 Each submission cannot be larger than 1MB in size. 
 Hi Eric,
  I was wondering what the standard file size for a 3-4min song in ogg
 vorbis is? I have a song that I would love to submit but is 100+MB in 48khz
 .wav, I haven't mixed down again in ogg yet but will soon. Even down sampled
 to 44.1khz .mp3 my 3min song is 4.5MB. Will they enforce this 1MB limit and
 expect a  1-2min peice of music?
 Thank you for your time,
 Tommy in Florida
 On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Eric Hedekar aftertheb...@gmail.comwrote:

 It's that time of year again to submit to the Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase
 for your chance at having worldwide exposure to your masterpiece.
 Audio, Graphic, and Video submissions will be accepted through to Feb 28th
 2010.
 More information at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase

 - Eric Hedekar

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Re: Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase

2010-01-28 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Am 28.01.2010 22:24, schrieb Eric Hedekar:
 On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.dewrote:
 
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 Am 28.01.2010 21:09, schrieb Ricardo Lameiro:
 AFAIK they will enforce the 1Mb rule. they have very limited space on the
 CD

 Well then I wonder, for what audience the CD shall be attractive...

 
 The CD we're talking about is the Ubuntu install CD.

Uhh hoo -I mixed it up again ;-)

of course the example-data on the install-CD must be as short as possible...

But at the other hand...

Having a few dozen grindcore-tracks could be used to show a
playlist-feature quite well ;-) ;-)
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Re: Linux Studio Magazine

2010-01-24 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Hello,

Am 23.01.2010 14:13, schrieb Robert Klaar:
 Hi folks!
 I realize this might be pretty farfetched but are there any magazines on
 linux audio out there that you know of? Of course magazines in paperform are
 prefered over digitalized. .)
 //Paco


I use to write articles on Linux Audio frequently for a german Mag
called Linux Intern. Other Linux Mags have articles on Linux Audio also
from time to time

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Re: Sound quality changed by Kdenlive LiVES

2010-01-23 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Am 23.01.2010 12:58, schrieb lrspares45:
 Has anyone else come across this? I have an mp3, recorded with Ardour,
 of me playing through BOSS Blues Driver - so far so good.
 
 I then used Kdenlive to create a video, but noticed that Kdenlive had
 noticeably cleaned up the sound (taken away some of the fuzz so to
 speak), to the extent that the music sounds all wrong. LiVES then did
 the same thing! Both have everything at default, i.e. as installed. 
 
 Is there a way of making either app leave the sound alone

I guess so. But its only guessing: You should never, never ever compress
a soundfile to MP3 or ogg if you plan to use it for anything else but
listening to it. Always use uncompressed WAV if you export a file to be
used in another app.
If the same data is compressed twice (first after exporting from Ardour
then again if exported from KDEnlive) the sound is bound to suffer.
You also should use the samplerate you plan to use in the Video, if you
export a file for soundtrack-purposes. 48KHz that is, even the jump from
a 44.1-file to 48 produces liestenable artifacts since the missing 400Hz
of data need to be interpolated.

best of luck, and keep us informed, weather this works or not...
:-)

, or is it just
 the way it is?
 
 Cheers
 Richard
 
 

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Re: HELP! Understanding MIDI

2010-01-20 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Thomas Fisher schrieb:
 The equipment is:
   -Edirol UM-1 ex   USB
   -Kawai KC-10 keyboard
 
 The software is:
  -Jack
  -Rosegarden
  -Patchage
  -ZynaddSubfx
 
 
 HELP!
   I am stumbling through this midi hookup, which is becoming frustratingly 
 obvious to me that I am not comprehending a something about this MIDI hookup. 
 I know that it can work in that I accidentally had it all working, once, but 
 can't get it working again.  The deeper I get into some of the guides, the 
 more lost I become.
 Anyone with a straightforward suggestion?

Let us try it:

give jackd/rt is running sufficiently the next stepps should be:

1: connect the edirol and start it with jack
2: connect the kawai and have a look at
qjackctl/connections/MIDI/AlsaMIDI. You may as well use patchage for
that, it is more or less the same as the connection-tab of qjackctl.
3:start zynadd and look, that its output goes to the edirols input in
qjackctl, its MIDI-ports show up in the AlsaMIDI-tab
4:start rosegarden and do a rightklick at the head of the first track
choose General MIDI device and hev a look to the area left of the editor.
5: there should be a section named recording-filter look, if you can
set device and channel here, now go to the MIDI-panel of qjackctl again
6: if the kawai is listed here as an individual device connect its
MIDI-out to Rosegarden record_in, if not, try MIDI-through of the Edirol

7:arm the track mentioned before for recording and chack, if zyn answers
your keystrokes. If so, you can begin your recording right now, if not,
connect the kawai-out to zynadds in first, only then fiddle with the
recording-filter-settings of rg.

You may also have a look at Manage Midi-devices in rg's Studio-menu.

good luck ;-)

  
  Thanks
 Tom
 
 

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Re: Footswitch usb

2010-01-10 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Francesco Barreca schrieb:
 If you have a little hacking skills and pure data beginner level,
 you can do it on your own by using an old USB numeric keypad and pure data.

Nice idea :-)
Do you know where one can download a pd-patch that does such a thing
(for reference) or a tutorial how to do that?

 Filtering the ASCII code of specific buttons within pure data and resend it
 via MIDI to your guitar rack.

That is, one would need to connect the guitar-software to PD?

 http://cycling74.com/2007/10/16/making-connections-building-a-usb-footswitch/
 best francesco b

This is for MaxMSP and it does not mention how to code the software
either ...

best regs

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Re: Plugin GUI's and Ubu love

2009-12-08 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Ricardo Lameiro schrieb:
 Speaking of Windows programs, there's a feature I use in WaveLab that I
 haven't been able to find in any FOSS software. That program has something
 called a master section, which is basically just a bunch of slots for
 plugins. They all effect the sound in real-time, and when you've tweaked
 them to your liking, you hit a button called Render and it processes the
 active wave files in non-real-time.

Aww Yeah?! ;-)
And can it render a 60-track-mix with individual plugins and all
Parameters in the plugins and in the mixer automized to have that wired
flanger on the voice on two words only and with a sweep thru the
delay-parameter at 2:32 and let the bass-drum become louder at the end
of the song and the guitar-solo wildly moving in the panorama and all
this rendered offline with dithering and exactly to the file-format you
need for a CD and then with the same mix another file for a
movie-soundtrack?

You really should check-out Ardour. It can do all this and more and
despite the myths that are stalking the net it offers a friendly,
intuitive GUI to do all this as easy as possible for such a complicated
task.

:-)
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Re: [LAU] presonus firepod problems

2009-12-08 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Iain Duncan schrieb:
 Hi folks, apologies for cross post, not sure where is best bet. I have a
 Presonus Firepod, and have just setup Ubuntu studio 9.10 on a gigabyte p55
 mobo. I have had no luck getting my firepod working yet and am starting to
 wonder if it's the firepod itself. Can anyone tell me what exactly is
 supposed to happen with one when you plug it in and turn it on? On my mac,
 the light would turn blue. When I turn it on now, the light turns blue
 during power up, then goes back to red, with a brief blue blink. I don't see
 any entry in /dev for  /dev/raw1394.
 
 Any tips on diagnosing this much appreciated!

You need to start jackd with the firewire-driver it is easy with qjackctl.
Check with UbuntuStudiocontrol that you have firewire (IEEE1394)
accessable for group audio.
The firepod is well supported, once jackd is running, you`ll see the
blue light again ;-)

 
 thanks
 iain
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: waiting for professional grade

2009-12-06 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Heiko Kokemoor schrieb:
 Let your creativity fly... in big bold letters. Later it
 says: It's easy. Just And below that it lists: Audio, Graphics,
 Video.

 Software development, system level tweaking, and learning Linux are
 mentioned NO WHERE.

 devils advocate mode off
 
 General knowledge of Linux system admin, software development,
 understanding of xwindows, and other geeky stuff may be required before
 successful creativity in audio, graphics, or video can be achieved. 

 Couldn't find it.

Linux is different, you have a chance here to explore new worlds. Take
your 2h time to learn the basics, start using it and find out more every
day about new and innovative concepts in a system that respects the
intelligence of its users - you`ll like it!

 
 To my mind you pointed out the most importand point, not only for Ubuntu
 Studio, but for many products, no matter if open or closed source.
 It's plain marketing, a lie.

Sad but true.


 But if we advertise a product as easy and so on, then we only copy
 closed source marketing. And perhaps it has to be the question, if this
 is the right way.

Absolutey not the right way but a dead end.
 If the only differece is, that you cannot run Abelton, ProTools and
InDesign on it, then Linux would really be obsolete. It is different and
it should emphasize that in its marketing:

You have the chance to *learn* new things and use them as a respected
person in a social network, that has its own culture.
Take it or leave it

 Does opens source the marketing-lies of closed source?

Free systems can and should get marketing but such marketing *must*
avoid lies. 9 out of 10 people are sick and tired of the lies of Apple,
MS, Adobe - you name it. If they come to the GNU-world for relief they
may not even like the complete truth about the system, that runs on
their computer then. But truth is all we have to give and if we give in
to corruption, we are the same as disgusting as the others.

 
 Even for Windows it's a lie, because this product as well can be very
 fu. tricky.
 
 Everybody knows or will learn about that before long. So giving the
user the chance to know the difficulties, he/she will have to master in
Linux right from the start will hurt nobody...

best regs

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Re: Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 32, Issue 1

2009-12-05 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Nice things first: I am about to test 9.10 in deep and at this point I
can say, that it is the best UbuntuStudio I ever had running. Right now
it runs for 6h with settings for crazy 1.3 ms latency and without any
serious trouble so as far as I am concerned: I am fine with 9.10's
RT-kernel :-) :-)
Eric Hedekar schrieb:

 
 It should be noted that these tweaks are generally ones that audio users
 require, and that Ubuntu Studio is an Audio, Video, and Graphics
 distribution. 

Please, please I mean it: if you could be so kind and spare us the it
is also for graphics etc  kind of thing.

Nobody I repeat: Nobody would need a specialized Linux distro to work
with graphics. The sole reason to install a distro like Ubuntu Studio is
to get the capabilities to run realtime-stuff. Everything else is just a
few clicks in a package-manager in every Desktop-Distro out there.

Having the magic 2 lines at the end of limits.conf would not hurt
anybody and help all those, who want to run audio. And there is
absolutely NO reason not to put them there out of the box.

bes regards

HZN/Berlin

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Re: Availability of Ardour 2.8.4 on Ubuntu Studio?

2009-11-16 Thread Hartmut Noack

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teza schrieb:
 Hi, could you tell me how you did install Ardour 2.8.4 on Karmic studio
 9.10.

1.) open synaptic and install build-essentials and svn
2.) open your browser and go to http://ardour.org/download_full
3.) the link to this: http://ardour.org/building brings up a page that
shows, what you need to install to build ardour - open it in a tab and
read it
4.) install every package mentioned on http://ardour.org/building -
remember to always install the -dev package of fftw, gtk+, gtkmm,
gnomecanvas and all the others. Also install scons and slv2. If you
really want VST get wine-dev also.
5.)return to http://ardour.org/download_full and fetch the sourcecode
6.)open a terminal in the dir you have stored the sourcecode and build
ardour with scons - if scons complains that a package is missing,
install this package and restart scons. In some cases it might be
neccessary to erase the ardour-source-dir and unpack the code-tarball
again or fetch the svn anew.
7.) if scons is done do this: sudo scons install

now you can run ardour ;-)


 thanks
 Regards 
 Teza
 
 
 ..
 Le lundi 16 novembre 2009 à 12:44 +0100, Hartmut Noack a écrit :
 Erik Rasmussen schrieb:
 In Ubuntu Studio, what is the upgrade frequency for key apps like Ardour?  
 I
 see that Ardour 2.8.4 was just released, but it looks like Ardour 2.8.2 is
 the latest version available through Ubuntu Studio.  Is there anyone using
 Ardour 2.8.4 on Ubuntu Studio 9.10?
 I built it from SVN - works very well with Ubuntu Studio 9.10 -
 dev-packages installed with synaptic.
 
 While I'm asking these questions I might also ask if anyone has tried or is
 using Ardour 3.x on Ubuntu Studio?  If anyone is using Ardour 3.x on Ubuntu
 built it from SVN too (see above)
 
 
 Studio, how does it work for you?
 as an early pre-alpha version is supposed to work I guess ;-)
 
 Thanks!
 -Erik




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Re: Hardware Software Recommendations?

2009-11-09 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Erik Rasmussen schrieb:
 Looking for Hardware and Software recommendations...
 
 *HARDWARE:*
 
1. If you build your own desktop computer and you plan to install Ubuntu
Studio to do broadcast audio and video production, what *motherboard *

Any recent mid-price motherboard will do. If you buy a new one from the
shelf the older the better

 and
*audio **card *do you recommend?

Depending on budget:

lowest: MAudio Audiophile (around Euro/USD 80,-) no other reasonable
card on the market works the same as smoothly.

more: MAudio Delta (the same as the Audiophile yet with more analogue
channels)

pro: RME Hammerfall DSP - unbeatable yet with around 500+ on ebay not
quite cheap.



2. If you are about to purchase a *laptop *for audio and video production
and to use Ubuntu Studio, what laptop do you recommend?

 *What Linux native software do you recommend
 for broadcast quality audio and video production?*

Every software on Linux produces sound at the maximum quality level that
can be handled by the hardware.
There is no artificial limitation in terms of quality in free software
for Linux.


 
 Brief list of *some *software features desired:
 
1. Can open, edit and save as FLAC audio files (without having to
manually convert first).
2. Multi-track editing capabilities.
3. Very detailed graphical representation of waveform.
4. Fast to open and to save files.
5. Visual feedback of audio levels or graphical representation of
waveform while recording and playback.
6. Able to gracefully handle and mix with audio files of varying sample
and bit rates.


I also recommend Ardour but you have to accept, that you need to open
(import) every file you want to use in Ardour. There is no
rightklick/open with ardour option in any filemanager. Ardour itself
knows only one fileformat, all external files you want to use are
converted with the import.
Thus Ardour can offer maximum performance/comfort and soundquality. And
ask whoever you want in the pro-audioscene: nobody will name a single
reason to actually work with compressed fileformats.

Regarding movies: Ardour can be synched with the videoplayer xjadeo to
make it work for post-production. To cut/arrange movies in the first
place I recommend openmovieeditor - it is available for ubuntu studio
and works reliable and fast while it has everything one would use dayly
when working with final cut

best regs

HZN
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Re: Ardour2 question

2009-10-06 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Lindsay Haisley schrieb:
 I have two computers running Ardour2.  One is running Ardour 2.7.1 on
 Gentoo, the second is running Ardour 2.3 on Ubuntu.

I urgently recommend to upgrade to Ardour 2.8 on both machines. Building
the stable 2.0-branch from SVN is a somewhat longish process but in the
end not really complicated. The recent tar-archive from ardour.org is
easy to build also.
At least on Ubuntu 9.x that is...


 In the 2nd installation, Ardour 2.3, the playhead cursor (vertical line)
 extends only up to the bottom of the ruler stack.  On the 2nd, the
 playhead cursor extends all the way to the top.  I would like to have
 the option to change this behavior easily.

As far as I remember, this was added in Ardour 2.5 or so...


 Is there a better documentation source for Ardour than the one at
 ardour.stackingdwarves.net?  This is woefully incomplete.
 

http://ardour.org/files/manual/index2.html
This one better?

best regs

HZN

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Re: looking for virtual instruments and midi-sequencer

2009-10-01 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Hello Matze,

mentoj_d...@gmx.de schrieb:

 and i cant find an easy to use programm with a good piano-sound. can somebody 
 help me with this?

The best way would be:

find a decent piano-soundfont on the web or buy one. Check, that it is
in generic soundfont-format without any dongle-based copy restriction or
the like.
Load it with qsynth and get familiar with qsynths setting-interface. It
is quite straight forward, no big thing.

If you prefer a (much)more flexible way to synthesize sounds and given
you dont need a very realistic piano, try ZynaddSubFX. And do NOT
choose the stupid, useless beginner-interface but always the advanced
mode - it offers much much more possibilities to adjust a sound to your
liking and it is really fun to work with it.


 second question: which app is good to record midi-signals? i think rosegarden 
 is to heavy.

Well, if you do not need to work with scores, you could try Qtractor.


 
 third question: should we wait for the next ubuntu version?

yes, absolutely. My experience with jaunty has made me use openSuse 111
for the last 6 Months.

 thanks and greetings from germany

Maybe you want to find out more in a de-based forum and maybe you can
meet me a one of the workshops I give on Linux Audio in Berlin/Potsdam?

http://www.audio4linux.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=949
;-)

 
 matze

bis bald ;-)
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Re: Ardour and Funding

2009-09-07 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Kiernan Holland schrieb:

 It's beside the point as to which e-mail client one uses, these are general
 e-mail courtesies.  But if you had checked my address you'd notice gmail in
 it as well.

 Please quit replying to yourself.  Compose your e-mail then send it.  For
 live chat, go to #ubuntustudio on the irc.freenode.net and have
 discussions there.

 -Eric


 So are you doing this for yourself or for others..

He does it for others too - as for me for instance.

You reply to yourself, that is useless, in real life as well as on
computers that do not much more then putting real-life stuff on a network.


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Re: Look ma - no hands!

2009-07-30 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Asmo Koskinen schrieb:
  From linux-rt-users mailing list:

 Here we go... Look ma - no hands ;-)
 
 http://www.arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio_Testing/Jaunty-rt-31-rc4.png
 

This is really good news.
Looks, like the really important things come in focus again ;-)

Thanks a lot.
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Re: Which ubustu-configuration makes you happy at present?

2009-07-19 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Gerhard Lang schrieb:

 Now I have to do straight audio production and some live-performance.  I
 want to demonstrate efficient linux-audio without tinkering around
 onstage.

Try openSuse 11.1 plus packman and jengelh-kernel.


 Besides a reliable basic ffado/jack installation I need a full
 performant wine/vst-host-gui, in which I can edit all parameters on the
 fly. Must not be reaper, which becomes fat and eats too much resources.
 For the rest I am contented with genuine linux ardour, hydrogen,
 rakarrack etc...
 I'll have to downgrade i.e. reinstall former version. I'm no coder but
 group, priority, raw1394, rights , dev, udev, security management issues
 are under control.
 Any experience-based recommendation will be appreciated
 Gerhard
 

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Re: wireless transfer of files between Mac OSX and Ubuntu?

2009-06-21 Thread Hartmut Noack

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laurent.bellegarde schrieb:
 { brad brace } a écrit :
 anyone managed to do this?

Everyday-kind of thing here. I just use ssh via my girlfriends airport.
No hassle at all...
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Re: ESI Juli@ card issues

2009-06-18 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Bill schrieb:
 Hello
 
 I am using a ESI Juli@ sound card. I want to record audio that is 
 streamed through Firefox. I can not listen to the audio stream and 
 record at the same time. I can listen to the audio that is being 
 recorded through the inputs and record it at the same time but can not 
 record audio and listen at the same time from the internet.

It depends.

If the stream comes from the flash-plugin, you can try to make
Pulseaudio work with jackd - this is not implemented by default in
Ubuntu (by what reason I do not know...)

In case you stream an m3u-file or the like you can:

1.) install mplayer-plugin and make Firefox play streams via it.
2.) set mplayer to provide audio via jack

In all cases you can connect whatever jack-output comes from either
pulse or mplayer in qjackctl to whatever recording-software you prefer.
I suggest jack_record with its GTK-GUI or Timemachine (the latter caches
 your stream continiously so you can hit record 10 or 20 seconds after
the part you want to capture has begun...)

 
 This does work in Winblows. Any suggestions?
 

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Re: Korg Radias: mdia via USB?

2009-06-17 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Christian Convey schrieb:
 Thanks, that was very accurate!
 
 Would you mind explaining one detail to me?
 
 If the JACK Connexions manager has three tabs (Audio, MIDI, and
 ALSA), then why do we set up MIDI routing in the ALSA tab, rather
 than in the MIDI tab?

We do so just to keep the tabs nice and narrow. They *should* read
however: Jack-MIDI and ALSA-MIDI. These are two worlds, that cannot
easily be mixed but can coexist and even interact to some extent.

Since I`d always prefer understandability over nice design I would vote
for a change like this
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Re: Korg Radias: mdia via USB?

2009-06-16 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Christian Convey schrieb:

 But when I
 launched various soft synths that came with Ubuntu Studio: QSynth and
 ZynAddSubFX, they never showed up in the JACK MIDI Patchbay, so it
 wasn't clear how to connect my Radia's keyboard events to any
 softsynth (or sequencer, for that matter.)

The named Synths show up in the Alsa-Register of Qjackctl. JackMIDI an
AlsaMIDI coexist but are not the same.
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Re: [LAU] ubuntu realtime.

2009-06-10 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Brent Busby schrieb:
 On Sat, 30 May 2009, Dave Phillips wrote:
 
 Is Ubuntu development really this bad ? I find it hard to believe that 
 such great efforts towards desktop improvements have overshadowed 
 sheer workability.
 
 On the bright side, the Ubuntu Studio wallpaper and GDM themes are 
 awe-inspiring.  (Let's hear it for polishing the chrome!)
 

Unfortunately nobody records a LP using wallpaper or themes...

Pure:Dyne looks quite old-fashioned if not dull and Musix is still
cluttered with bazillions of icons in not-fitting colours.
Yet both have a rock-solid high-performance kernel that runs my
firewire-interface for 10+ houres at 8ms while US with all its beauty on
the surface does not. It crashes jackd within 10 or so minutes if the
firebox runs with settings for more than 20ms.

So I use Kubuntu as my every-day desktop on my laptop and in the studio
I use oldfashioned-not-so-fancy Lenny with Pure:Dyne atop to get
something that works.
In 80% of the time I see Ardour in fullscreen anyway


Please dont get me wrong: I am well aware of the fact, that the people,
that do all the graphical work wont become kernel hackers as soon as
this message arrives. Eye-candy is allways welcome also (Kubuntu 9.4 is
indeed the most beautyfull, intriguing desktop I ever had installed or
even seen so I do NOT critizize these improvements here.

But one thing is for sure:
If Ubuntu Studio does not work at least the same as good for the
musician as other Linux-distros do, it will be irrelevant and obsolete.

best regards

HZN

BTW: If I want to hook my Firebox with the Laptop I use Suse11 with the
jenglh-Kernel. Its not as powerfull a system as Pure:Dyne but it works
acceptable well and is quite beauty and feature-packed also
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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 - 9.04 upgrade

2009-04-27 Thread Hartmut Noack

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mac schrieb:


  While I agree Ardour is not broken, something is.

I must confirm this. The Ardour-Package works OK. The same as the
ArdourSVN-Snapshot I build last week. But the overall performance of
jack is not much better than running the Standard-Kernel, only the
rt-kernel freezes the system from time to time ...


 I just installed UB Studio Jaunty. Adjusted things so I could actually
 run Jack  ffado.
 
 Then started Ardour and began recording. Jack crashed after about 19
 minutes.

same here with the Presonus Firebox. The same with Suse111 with the
jengelh-rt-Kernel (that performs just great with my cheapo USB-interface
a.t.o.h)

very well: looks like its Linux itself. Anyone out there running any
FW-interface successfully on a recent distro?

HZN
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Re: Examples makes with ubuntu studio

2009-04-27 Thread Hartmut Noack

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juan pablo schrieb:
 Hi all!!
 
 I´m very excited with my wonderful Presonus Firepod and Ubuntu Studio.

The Firepod OK? That is very good news indeed :-)

What Computer? What FW-Chipset? And what Kernel/Settings?

 
 I want to show you my first song record in our local. I know that I
 can improve much, especially the voice, but the outcome is better than
 I thought
 
 I need more practice!! Much mor practice!
 
 Enjoy it at http://www.myspace.com/cub3band

The first 8 or so seconds sound promising but the condamned f...in
myspace spoils the party with dropouts and the like then

best regs

HZN

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Re: Dropping ffmpeg, ffmpeg2theora, and kino from UbuntuStudio video task.

2009-04-21 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Cory K. schrieb:
 laurent.bellegarde wrote:
 Ok, I understand your point of view, but using kino is free, and kino 
 don't contain any piece of proprietary code.
 
 Sure but it uses FFMPEG which supports all kinds of formats.
 
 Thing is, I thought we shipped a free version of FFMPEG? Compiled with
 the non-free bits turned off?

FFMPEG IS free software, the same as lame and even the lib that kindly
enabeles you to view a DVD-Video on your computer.

But all these implement support for formats that are patented. These
patents are enforcable in some countries like the US and in others like
Germany they are not for software-patents do not apply here.

Linux Vendors like NOVELL or Canonical do not ship this software though
its license perfectly allows redistribution in a Linux distro because
the fear the hassle with US-patent-lawyers.

So in the end: there is no such thing as video-editing software that
does not need software affected by patents. So I see ways to go:

1. accept that there is no video-editing in Ubuntu Studio
OR
2. ship free software that is affected by patents and let the lawyers
come...
OR
3. try to find developers that are ready and willing to code a
videoeditor that works excluselively with unpatented formats

I would support the latter two with an emphasis on 2. for now and on 3
for the future. I would be glad to support a project that goes for 2.
with some humble donations and evangelize for such a project in the
german press. Furthermore: I hear that Ubuntu has a certain
sponsor/friend/supporter known to be capable of not-so-humble donations ;-)

best regs

HZN
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Re: Dropping ffmpeg, ffmpeg2theora, and kino from UbuntuStudio video task.

2009-04-21 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Hartmut Noack schrieb:
 Cory K. schrieb:

Damn Typos!! ;-)

 1. accept that there is no video-editing in Ubuntu Studio
 OR
 2. ship free software that is affected by patents and let the lawyers
 come...
 OR
 3. try to find developers that are ready and willing to code a
 videoeditor that works excluselively with unpatented formats
 
 I would support the latter two with an emphasis on 2. for now and on 3
 for the future. I would be glad to support a project that goes for 3 -
a complete untainted free videoeditor.
with some humble donations and evangelize...

sorry for the double-post but I want to make sure, that I would not want
to make donations for a war on lawyers ;-)

HZN
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Re: best value of memory for jackd+ardour

2009-02-16 Thread Hartmut Noack

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laurent.bellegarde schrieb:

 a question, ardour told me my limits.conf is not enough, at this time it 
 is 32mb.

Unbelievable - it still works with 2.9 ms?

 My laptop has 4 Go of ram. What is the best value to put for 
 this computer ?

Give it 3.8GB - it is enough to have around 200mb unlocked, the other
apps can use the full mem as well, but have to stand in line after the
jackd-clients. I run my laptop without any limit - works perfectly OK...

best regs

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Re: What would you change in the audio app list?

2009-02-04 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Marc R.J. Brevoort schrieb:
 On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Eric Hedekar wrote:
 
 I have to vote for Rezound.  It's a very feature-rich and stable audio
 editor, I know Audacity is included already, but I
 find it to be buggy at the best of times.  I'd like to advocate for
 inclusion of Rezound but not the exclusion of Audacity
 - if that could be considered.
 
 And please keep mhwaveedit in. It's not incredibly feature rich, but
 I've found it to be very stable, lightweight, and it handles huge files
 better than anything else out there.
 
 Best,
 Marc
 
I second that strongly - MHW is the fastest, most stable editor I know
for usage with jack - undispensable :-)

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Re: What would you change in the audio app list?

2009-02-03 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Larry David schrieb:
 On Feb 2, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
 
 Cory K. schrieb:
 
 manager, has been removed. :) Specimen the sampler, I *think*  

 
 Can it load popular formats, or only samples recorded in Specimen?   
 Loaded WAV files suggests it can read any WAV file, 

It can -not more not less. It organizes plain WAV-files in Banks based
on XML-files and handles SR-conversion. So it is a handy tool for
anyone, who is used to use simple WAV-files in Samplers, for others, who
 prefer Sondfonts or GIG-files it is not the perfec choice...
 
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Re: Work/workflow examples?

2009-02-02 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Hello Larry,

Larry David schrieb:

 I would be interested to hear what kind of music work people are  
 doing with UBS, and what software people they use for which tasks.   
 Audio examples/clips would be great. 

http://lapoc.de/demos/lapoc-sos-ashita-141008.ogg
http://lapoc.de/demos/lapoc-sos-ashita-release-demo1.txt

This was made with 64Studio (just another Debianish-Audio-Distro)
and/but a lot of the percussion and the mixing/mastering was made with
UBS. I found out, that for me it is the most prudent way to work with
different distros of Linux to get the best of all worlds ;-)

 My system can't handle softsynths and  
 multitracking simultaneously, 

??
Athlon 1200?
I run 40+-track sessions simultaneosly with Zynadd or AMS let alone
Specimen on a box not worth much more than 150 E on EBay


 I'd love to hear similar descriptions of people's work/workflow in  
 UBS - the more details the better, but even a brief summary would be  
 helpful.

I used to use UBS on a quite puny Laptop (MSI,AMD, 1500RAM, Behringer
UControl...) for composing loops with Specimen/Seq24/Qtractor/Rosegarden
and the like and for mixing/mastering Stuff in Ardour as of now I do
this on Suse111 but hope to return to UBS with 09.04

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Re: What would you change in the audio app list?

2009-02-02 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Cory K. schrieb:

 manager, has been removed. :) Specimen the sampler, I *think* wasn't
 included because the case was made for another already included app. 

Well: Specimen does not use any popular /proprietary sample-lib format
but its own (loaded WAV-Files organized via a simple XML-file), so it is
nice and open and at the other hand quite off-mainstream. But it works
flawlessly and very, very stable with jackd so I would strongly opt for it.

best regs

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Re: Pulse ?

2009-01-26 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Cory K. schrieb:
 Hartmut Noack wrote:
 Cory has pointed out later on in this thread, that the core-devs do not
 want the jackd-plugin in pulse, because jackd is not in main - they
 don't want to cope with that, *because they do not care for audio-users,*
 I'd say. The UBS-team should not accept such politics lightly...
 
 Not /really/ accurate. I never said anything about the core-devs. :)
 JACK was in Main at one point but was demoted. 
...

 
 -Cory K.
 

Cory is correct: he never mentioned the core-devs - I made a possibly
misleading interpolation sorry for that :-)

I was just aroused by the fact, that no desktop-sound system under
Ubuntu works with jackd, though this is feasible as pulse and xinelib
both support jackd if only this is compiled into them...

BTW: Ardour has jackd-support even though it is officially a part of UBS
(and thus a part of a UBUNTU-Flavour as official as KUBUNTU or
XUBUNTU...) so would it be possible, to have xinelib/pulse plus
jackd-plugins as a part of UBS?

best regards

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Re: Pulse ?

2009-01-26 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Scott schrieb:
 sue...@empire.net wrote:

 I had this same issue and resorted to using my external mixer to hear 
 audio-return. 
 Keep this discussion going, I'd love to hear a solution.
 

solution is simple: get the pulse sources and compile with jackd-support.
The same with xinelib - install jack-dev, then compile xinelib from
source and amarok plays sound via jackd the same as xine/gxine etc...

It would be nice though, if we could get the needed plugins from
universe with a few clicks in synaptic...
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Re: Pulse ?

2009-01-25 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Eric Hedekar schrieb:
 On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM, alex stone compos...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Why can't we make pulse optional in UBStudio?

 I understand UBS as an audio specific distro that focuses on
 audio/multimedia production. We use RT, Jack, etc, knowing precisely what
 UBS is designed for.


 Alex.


 Next, I think it's good to point out in this argument, that UBStudio is NOT
 an audio specific distribution - it's a multimedia specific distribution.
 Audio users may make up a large portion of the user base,  but they're not
 the only cats in town.  Graphics and Video people benefit greatly from
 Pulse.

Everything, I repeat: everything Video/Graphics people can possibly want
from a Linux Distro, is in the standard (K)(X)UBUNTU. It would be
marketing at best to provide a whatsoever special distro for people,
that only want to cut some movies and design graphics.
The one and only relevant reason for a special distro like UBS, CCRMA or
 JAD is in fact the RT-capability including am optimized Kernel and a
proper automagic to configure the system to work with it (limits.conf,
timer resolution and firewire-setup).
If the latter is not a must-have, UBS would be nothing but a theme(many
people dislike) and a set of preinstalled apps (everybody can install
with a few clicks in synaptic).

 Graphics and Video people benefit greatly from
 Pulse.

If this is so (I doubt it is...) may it be: there are a lot of UBS-users
like me, that prefer XFCE or KDE, Fluxbox etc. instead of GNOME and we
all still accept, that GNOME is the standard-desktop for UBS. We simply
install whatever DE we like and use the apps and have the benefit of the
RT-optimisation as well.
But pulse interferes with audio and so it should be removed from UBS, it
would be OK with me, if it is installed but I would like to have a
simple way to get rid of it. Ubuntu Studio Control should have a switch
for that: disable pulseaudio, click, done

The situation could be different if only the available jackd-plugin for
pulse would be installable, the same situation for xinelib.

There is NO sane reason not to have these plugins in universe and there
is absolutely not the slightest reason not to install these plugins with
UBS.
Cory has pointed out later on in this thread, that the core-devs do not
want  the jackd-plugin in pulse, because jackd is not in main - they
don't want to cope with that, because they do not care for audio-users,
I'd say. The UBS-team should not accept such politics lightly...

Anyway I have a Suse11.1 up and running now and thanks to jengelh with
the best RT-support I have seen since 64Studio 2.0. I run jackd all the
time with 8ms latency, no xruns on a machine on which the recent UBS
does not run jackd with less then 40ms.
And yes: of course you can install pulse and xinelib with proper
jackd-support with a few mouseclicks in Suse.
So I will see, how 9.04 improves the situation...

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Re: Pulse ?

2009-01-25 Thread Hartmut Noack

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Billy C schrieb:


 A more effective color management system would be needed prior to
 making the claim that EVERYTHING needed for graphics was present.

Yeah - right. But this is linked to licensing-issues, so I would not
blame a Linux-Distro for being imperfect in that...



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Re: building 2.6.24 in an intrepid environment

2009-01-08 Thread Hartmut Noack

aYo Binitie schrieb:
 I have to say I've had the opposite experience. I'm actually tempted to
 upgrade all my machines to Intrepid but for the fact that I love both
 interfaces and would like to keep both. I'd be interested to know what you
 have found buggy with Intrepid
 
- KDE4.1 is experimental at best and it is the ONLY option, no way to 
install KDE35 parallel.

- The Presonus Firebox (FW-audio) that runs perfectly smooth in 64Studio 
and very well in Suse/JAD is not usable.

- Neither xine nor pulseaudio are provided with their jackd-plugins - at 
least xine can work perfectly well with jackd since years

- The KDE3 delivered with 7.10 was able to export my desktop perfectly 
well to the VGA-out of my Laptop, in Intrepid no WM can zoome the output 
correctly...

- 7.10 supported my NOKIA-Mobile plug/play, Intrepid does not even see it.

in short: I dont think, there is a Ubuntu Studio 8.10 - I only hope for 
9.04  to make things better

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 64bit

2008-12-29 Thread Hartmut Noack

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sue...@empire.net schrieb:
 Hi,
 
 I have downloaded the 64bit version of Studio and installed it on my laptop.
 
 I then configured the 1394 drivers so I could get Jack to see my Firepod.
 
 Then I fired up Ardour and tried recording a couple inputs, In this case, I
 just have 440Hz signal source.
 
 Even without Ardour, Jack shows XRUN's.
 I never saw XRUN's with the 32bit rt kernel. Are there settings that might
 improve this in the 64bit non-rt?


What jackd-settings do you have?

hint: try 3periods/buffer instead of 2


 Also, how do I zoom-in in Ardour to see the shape of the waveform. Seems I
 zoom so far and then it won't go further.

???
Try CTRL+Mousewheel.
If you try to find a drawable waveform, switch to cursor mode
gaincurves (press G). You can then draw a line with nodes for
gain-automation.

 
 And, how do I increase the x axis in a track?

Try SHIFT+Mousewheel and point the cursor to the track you want to zoom...

good luck ;-)

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Re: pulseaudio problems

2008-12-16 Thread Hartmut Noack

Ufuk schrieb:

 Also I need to know if pulseaudio provides better sound quality with the 
 apps. 
 and Jack.

There is no difference. Soundservers have no influence on the sound 
quality - they just transport, what apps have to offer and send it to a 
soundcard, that has all the influence on quality.

It is thinkable though, that a soundserver can be configured to 
manipulate soundstreams with FX like EQ or Normalizers in the signal 
path. Such a configuration would be a severe misconfiguration, I'd say...
Pulseaudio can be configured that way but I strongly hope, it is not and 
will not be ...

 If it doesn't, I will return to alsa and remove all pulseaudio 
 packages.

ALSA is allways present - it is the very sounddriver, pulseaudio, 
xinelib/phonon and even jack himself are only overlays that use ALSA.

Nevertheless: if you are into music and pulseaudio interferes with jackd 
in any way, remove pulseaudio: it has nothing to offer for musicians and 
little for desktop audio. With a xinelib that is jack-aware you can 
start jackd as you start your Desktop and close it, as you go to bed...

It was promised, that pulseaudio should be jack-aware also - is that so? 
I had some trouble with that so I dropped pulse on Intrepid (works 
perfectly well for me...)

best regs

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Re: A few problems with Ubuntu Studio

2008-12-04 Thread Hartmut Noack

John Gardner schrieb:
 When Ardour is started, the MIDI connections appear under the ALSA tab, but
 nothing appears under AUDIO tab.
 
 Have you made up a project (maybe using a template) with Ardour?
 Where are the templates for Ardour?  Are they already installed on
 Ubuntu Studio and if so where?

Start Ardour, make a new project and choose from template. The templates 
will be shown in the filechooser they are installed by default under 
/usr/share/ardour2/templates

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