Re: [ubuntu-uk] System hosed during network upgrade to 8.10
In message of 1 Nov, Tim Powys-Lybbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed it as an upgrade to 8.04 64 bit Hello Tim, Have you abandoned RiscOS, or are you just dallying? ;-) Best wishes, Keith. --- Keith Bowerman, Prestwood, south Staffs, England. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] more issues with 8.10
2008/11/2 Ken Robson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since I installed 8.10 64bit as a fresh install, when I eject a cd (using right click eject) it immediately closed it again before I have time to remove the cd. Due to the high number of issues I am going to be removing it and trying a different distro. Ken, alternatively you could use (or stay with) Hardy Heron until this issue gets sorted. Hardy is robust and only six months old, which, by the release cycle standards of some distributions and operating systems, is positively bleeding edge. If you find the inevitable bug-squashing and glitch-hunting that occurs post new releases to be tiresome, you can just stay with the previous release for 6-8 weeks or so, until the most irksome issues are dealt with by the updates. Some people enjoy life on the bleeding edge, others need more stability. The previous release is always there to cater for the latter ;) Roger -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Issues after upgrade to 8.10 - screen saver
Hi My first post here, but I watch a lot! I had the same problem with a lock up when the screen saver kicks in, but with 8.04 immediately after using envyng-gtk to install the latest ATI drivers. Not only were the drivers no good for 3D but the screensaver problem occured. Maybe its a driver rather than 8.10 problem? Regards Roger Leyland Les Gets, France -- Message: 8 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:59:46 + From: Ken Robson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Issues after upgrade to 8.10 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Did an upgrade to 8.10 from .04, upgrade went fine. BUT now when the screensaver kicks in it will not wake up again, the screen shows the backdrop but no login or desktop, and keyboard is frozen. Only solution so far has been the power button to force a shutdown, so system is not halted just not responding to keyboard input, i.e. caps lock etc does not work, no CAD. Any ideas? - End forwarded message - Regards Roger Leyland -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] more issues with 8.10
Just to build upon Alan's note about adding yourself to an existing bug, in a recent Ubuntu news the Launchpad guys had introduced a new Me Too tab to enable developers to gauge the quantity of users affected, without having to wade through lots of me too type notes. Obviously if you wish to add further detail to an existing bug, you would still need to follow the normal process. To be honest, I'm going to be sitting with the Heron for a little while yet as from Mark Shuttleworth's original description of where he wanted Ubuntu to go, lots of new things were going to be added to this release, especially as it's also a catch up release after the LTS Heron, so I was kinda expecting a number of naughty things happening from initial release! Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 02 November 2008 12:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] more issues with 8.10 2008/11/2 David Futcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually, this bug is already well known by the developers and is documented in the Intrepid Release Notes [1]. I have no idea why Ah even better. The original poster can subscribe to that bug and thus get notified of any workarounds (other than those already published). Personally i can think of another way to get the CD out, but that would require a reboot. the developers decided to go ahead with release with this fairly critical bug (If you cant get a CD out of a drive, you aren't going to stick with an OS for long (this thread is a good example of that). Well from reading the link you posted it _is_ possible to get the CD out of the drive using the workaround published. I'm quite staggered that you think an entire OS release should be delayed for this! I personally use my CDROM drive once in a blue moon. I know each person has their own experience/issues with the system and has their own perception of the importance of those issues. But really, this one can't possibly be classed as critical by any sensible measure. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] more issues with 8.10
Hello Alan, Alan Pope wrote: I'm quite staggered that you think an entire OS release should be delayed for this! I personally use my CDROM drive once in a blue moon. A lot of people still use optical media on a regular basis, for example I use it to make inexpensive off-site backups of my Ubuntu system and watch DVDs on my computer and laptop. The optical disc drive is also almost essential if you want to encourage widespread prorogation of Ubuntu as it also enables proprietary software manufacturers (such as game developers) to sell there products for the Linux platform in shops and reach a large audience - without the optical disc drive the only effective distribution medium for software companies is via the internet which does not yet reach a large enough proportion of average consumers to make it sufficiently profitable. Yours, Robert Leverington. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] more issues with 8.10
2008/11/2 Robert Leverington [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Alan, Alan Pope wrote: I'm quite staggered that you think an entire OS release should be delayed for this! I personally use my CDROM drive once in a blue moon. A lot of people still use optical media on a regular basis, for example I use it to make inexpensive off-site backups of my Ubuntu system and watch DVDs on my computer and laptop. Which illustrates my point perfectly. Thank you. The fact that some people use their optical drive whilst others rarely touches it shows me that it's by no means a release critical bug. If it was a crucial component like the CPU didnt work under Ubuntu then yes, I'd class that as critical. However the fact is that a) it's in the upgrade release notes, which links to the bug, b) the bug not only describes a workaround but a solution so c) there is a more effective solution that described in the release notes. Take a moment to read the entire bug report and comments and you will see that this is much less of an issue that people are making out. I'm not arguing that the CD isnt an essential item or that it doesnt matter that it doesnt work, but the fact that it _does_ work, and it _is_ possible to work around this issue. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] more issues with 8.10
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 11:42 +, Alan Pope wrote: 2008/11/2 Ken Robson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since I installed 8.10 64bit as a fresh install, when I eject a cd (using right click eject) it immediately closed it again before I have time to remove the cd. Sounds like you may have found a bug in Ubuntu. You could report this bug so that in the future it could be fixed for yourself and other Ubuntu uses. It could be a problem with the nautilus file manager so you could file a bug against that. Actually, this bug is already well known by the developers and is documented in the Intrepid Release Notes [1]. I have no idea why the developers decided to go ahead with release with this fairly critical bug (If you cant get a CD out of a drive, you aren't going to stick with an OS for long (this thread is a good example of that). [1] - http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#CD%20eject%20problems -- David Futcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ubuntu Universe Contributor http://www.bobbo.me.uk https://www.launchpad.net/~bobbo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Issues after upgrade to 8.10
Did an upgrade to 8.10 from .04, upgrade went fine. BUT now when the screensaver kicks in it will not wake up again, the screen shows the backdrop but no login or desktop, and keyboard is frozen. Only solution so far has been the power button to force a shutdown, so system is not halted just not responding to keyboard input, i.e. caps lock etc does not work, no CAD. Any ideas? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Slightly OT: GeForce 4 MX support fixed?
Thanks Michael, I'll try to perhaps bring in the legacy drivers from the Hardy repos onto a new Ibex system, and I may file a bug at Launchpad regarding the situation. Mike 2008/11/2 Michael Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Short answer is no. Long answer is that for me it was fixed in an update to hardy.1 but i have just been trying to use ibex and it's resurfaced the nighmare of this issue. Check the release notes for intrepid ibex. There is even more of a compatibility issue now with nvidia and the new Xserver michael - Original message - -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] System hosed during network upgrade to 8.10
In message of 2 Nov, keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message of 1 Nov, Tim Powys-Lybbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed it as an upgrade to 8.04 64 bit Hello Tim, Have you abandoned RiscOS, or are you just dallying? ;-) No. (To whichever question it applies to.) I have always been in favour of exploration, though it is limited by my abilities. Ubuntu/Linux interests me as (a) free, (b) now usable and (c) possibly a future. So once a week or so I give it a thrash with something or other. It runs on my Big Mac, on which also runs Reunion for genealogy and RISC OS (capitals and two words, the correct form) for more or less everything else. The fourth operating system that the BM runs is Windows in a VMWare virtual machine like Ubuntu. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] more issues with 8.10
2008/11/2 David Futcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually, this bug is already well known by the developers and is documented in the Intrepid Release Notes [1]. I have no idea why Ah even better. The original poster can subscribe to that bug and thus get notified of any workarounds (other than those already published). Personally i can think of another way to get the CD out, but that would require a reboot. the developers decided to go ahead with release with this fairly critical bug (If you cant get a CD out of a drive, you aren't going to stick with an OS for long (this thread is a good example of that). Well from reading the link you posted it _is_ possible to get the CD out of the drive using the workaround published. I'm quite staggered that you think an entire OS release should be delayed for this! I personally use my CDROM drive once in a blue moon. I know each person has their own experience/issues with the system and has their own perception of the importance of those issues. But really, this one can't possibly be classed as critical by any sensible measure. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] more issues with 8.10
Since I installed 8.10 64bit as a fresh install, when I eject a cd (using right click eject) it immediately closed it again before I have time to remove the cd. Due to the high number of issues I am going to be removing it and trying a different distro. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] more issues with 8.10
Am I the only one who is quick enough to remove the CD befor the tray closes? Or perhaps my DVD drive is a sjuggish mover! My classification for this bug is 'irritating'. The importance of fixing bugs like this quickly is to protect Ubuntu's reputation. Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] ubuntu 8.10
Having read of some of the woes stemming from the upgrade I thought I had better take the plunge and see what happens. So, this morning I did the necessary to my laptop, and all went like a charm. I am now having a rest from trying out various applications that I would expect to use and, so far, most things work very well. One most peculiar fault which I have not been able to correct is with Evolution Mail. I cannot send or receive mail because the button to send/receive is greyed out. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. Otherwise, Ubuntu does it again. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu 8.10
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having read of some of the woes stemming from the upgrade I thought I had better take the plunge and see what happens. So, this morning I did the necessary to my laptop, and all went like a charm. I am now having a rest from trying out various applications that I would expect to use and, so far, most things work very well. One most peculiar fault which I have not been able to correct is with Evolution Mail. I cannot send or receive mail because the button to send/receive is greyed out. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. Otherwise, Ubuntu does it again. I did a search for 'evolution mail send receive greyed' and I got this relevant result, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=793930 I hope it helps, Simos -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu 8.10
One most peculiar fault which I have not been able to correct is with Evolution Mail. I cannot send or receive mail because the button to send/receive is greyed out. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. Otherwise, Ubuntu does it again. I did a search for 'evolution mail send receive greyed' and I got this relevant result, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=793930 Thank you very much. Why is it I always forget the fund of information available from Google? Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu 8.10
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 5:19 PM, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One most peculiar fault which I have not been able to correct is with Evolution Mail. I cannot send or receive mail because the button to send/receive is greyed out. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. Otherwise, Ubuntu does it again. I did a search for 'evolution mail send receive greyed' and I got this relevant result, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=793930 Thank you very much. Why is it I always forget the fund of information available from Google? In some cases it is an issue of picking the suitable keywords. The above URL has the workaround. The canonical way to deal properly with this is a bug report at launchpad.net, with an issue 'Evolution Mail switches to Offline mode after distro upgrade', and then look for a bug report at the Evolution Mail bug management website, at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=evolution Finally, link the bugzilla.gnome.org report to the Launchpad page. Simos -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu 8.10
I posted earlier this afternoon about a problem, but not sure if it got to you, so I will post it again, hopefully it will. Its the first time I've posted on here. I tried to install 8.10 on my laptop but when the desktop tried to open, it sticks, and it wont start. I wondered if it was a problem with my laptop or if it was another problem. Can any body help please. Thank you. John. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Slightly OT: GeForce 4 MX support fixed?
Here's the thread from the Nvidia forums discussing the card: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122305 I think Nvidia are saying that they're thinking about it! I haven't tried any solutions myself yet, as everything works for me except special effects and I don't do games etc. I don't know enough about drivers in Linux to risk fiddling with what I've got. :) Dianne -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] video playback
hi all just upgraded, now basic video formats like .avi won't play :( help please :) thanks === Farran Lee I'm only 16 :P attachment: stock_smiley-1.pngattachment: stock_smiley-4.png-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Slightly OT: GeForce 4 MX support fixed?
Here's a thread in the Ubuntu forum on this problem, marked solved :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960727 Basically it's stay with 8.04 until the driver's released, upgrade to 8.10 and make do with the open source nv driver included, or try the Nvidia beta which they released recently. I'm not brave enough to try the beta ... who needs special effects anyway? :) Dianne -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] video playback
Farran Lee wrote: hi all just upgraded, now basic video formats like .avi won't play :( help please :) thanks === Farran Lee I'm only 16 :P Hi Farran, Installing the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package should fix video playback problems for proprietary formats. If you also want to play restricted formats like .wmv then you can enable the medibuntu repository and install the 'w32codecs' package. Instructions to add the medibuntu repository can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repositories Hope that helps you out. -- Jason Liquorish [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu 8.10
On 2 Nov 2008 at 19:53, John wrote: I posted earlier this afternoon about a problem, but not sure if it got to you, so I will post it again, hopefully it will. Its the first time I've posted on here. I tried to install 8.10 on my laptop but when the desktop tried to open, it sticks, and it wont start. I wondered if it was a problem with my laptop or if it was another problem. Can any body help please. Thank you. John. What make/model is your laptop? (These problems are often hardware related.) Is this the first time you have installed Ubuntu on it? Or was it an upgrade? If not an upgrade, how did you install it? If you do Ctrl-Alt-1, do you get a console? It would be a good idea to post this (with the sort of details above) on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Slightly OT: GeForce 4 MX support fixed?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/11/08 21:33, Dianne Reuby wrote: Here's a thread in the Ubuntu forum on this problem, marked solved :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960727 Otto42 is worth a read - though at least he did know when to stop pressing his 'point'. - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJDqnDJ+Auntu1v4QRAk2jAJ9YamJvjiD1llJOAmw1rjx6ilmKcgCffrwG rIezPY/fNvGtFE7Uvix83ik= =eRH5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
