Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: you know specs wise this doesnt look like it will be able to play HDits a atom processor after all...!!! Or am i wrong? It works if the software supports VDPAU. This is hardware acceleration for certain modern nvidia graphic chips, like the nvidia ION. The latest betas of XBMC and boxee have this working out of the box. Joseph -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: [LUG] OT: #!/bin/santash
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 22:30 +, Steve wrote: On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:21:04 -, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: Hi folks, This was posted on the Devon Cornwall LUG and made me chuckle, I thought some of you folks might like it too... |better !pout !cry better watchout lpr why santa_claus north_pole town cat /etc/passwd list ncheck list ncheck list cat list | grep naughty coal cat list | grep nice gift santa_claus north_pole town who | grep sleeping who | grep awake who | egrep 'bad|good' for goodness_sake; do be_good; done| :-) -- Steve Reminds me of the XMPP Night Before Christmas http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0169.html Very good :) -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
On 09/12/2009 08:32, Joseph Hughes wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com wrote: you know specs wise this doesnt look like it will be able to play HDits a atom processor after all...!!! Or am i wrong? It works if the software supports VDPAU. This is hardware acceleration for certain modern nvidia graphic chips, like the nvidia ION. The latest betas of XBMC and boxee have this working out of the box. Joseph I gather it's also the case with newer builds of MythTV too. The ION chipset basically does the video decoding leaving the Atom CPU free for other tasks. There is an article about this sort of thing here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=nvidia_vdpau_gpunum=1 Although it covers and AMD Sempron CPU and Geforce 8400GS, essentially the ION chipset is pretty much the same spec as a low end Geforce card, so although i may not be the fastest card ever for 3D stuff, it is low power and does pretty good video acceleration. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? what about multitasking? can i pause a film to quickly jump into a browser for 5 mins and then back to my film? 2009/12/9 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk On 09/12/2009 08:32, Joseph Hughes wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com wrote: you know specs wise this doesnt look like it will be able to play HDits a atom processor after all...!!! Or am i wrong? It works if the software supports VDPAU. This is hardware acceleration for certain modern nvidia graphic chips, like the nvidia ION. The latest betas of XBMC and boxee have this working out of the box. Joseph I gather it's also the case with newer builds of MythTV too. The ION chipset basically does the video decoding leaving the Atom CPU free for other tasks. There is an article about this sort of thing here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=nvidia_vdpau_gpunum=1 Although it covers and AMD Sempron CPU and Geforce 8400GS, essentially the ION chipset is pretty much the same spec as a low end Geforce card, so although i may not be the fastest card ever for 3D stuff, it is low power and does pretty good video acceleration. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory hungry. I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year to upgrade mine just in case :) Andy 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Also the 360 is bloody noisey! I have one and tried using it as a media centre but the fans are just to much, PS3 is much quieter. 2009/12/9 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory hungry. I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year to upgrade mine just in case :) Andy 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
ok...i think i have been sold on this! :) 2009/12/9 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory hungry. I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year to upgrade mine just in case :) Andy 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
On 09/12/2009 09:54, javadayaz wrote: Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! I'd go for the Aspire Revo as Joseph (and Alan) suggested. I have an XBOX 360 Elite and find it is both noisy and the streaming of movies is well how can I put it, not that great. It'll play WMV video file but anything else has to be transcoded and then you loose the option for 5.1 audio. I now very rarely watch video on the XBOX 360 nowadays, I use a PC instead. I certainly couldn't recommend an XBOX 360 for video playback, although it's great for games. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:15 +, Andy Partington wrote: Also the 360 is bloody noisey! I have one and tried using it as a media centre but the fans are just to much, PS3 is much quieter. Which 360 model do you have? I've got a new (circa 2 weeks ago) Elite, and thats not too bad playing streamed content. Playing DVD's it's awful, but I just encode them to the network anyway, saves me having to get out of my chair :) -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
yeh i think thats what im going to do now! 2009/12/9 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk On 09/12/2009 09:54, javadayaz wrote: Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! I'd go for the Aspire Revo as Joseph (and Alan) suggested. I have an XBOX 360 Elite and find it is both noisy and the streaming of movies is well how can I put it, not that great. It'll play WMV video file but anything else has to be transcoded and then you loose the option for 5.1 audio. I now very rarely watch video on the XBOX 360 nowadays, I use a PC instead. I certainly couldn't recommend an XBOX 360 for video playback, although it's great for games. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Slightly off topic Andy, but is Hulu currently working on boxeee? 2009/12/9 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory hungry. I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year to upgrade mine just in case :) Andy 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :) 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Slightly off topic Andy, but is Hulu currently working on boxeee? 2009/12/9 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory hungry. I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year to upgrade mine just in case :) Andy 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: Slightly off topic Andy, but is Hulu currently working on boxeee? No, but then Hulu doesn't work outside the US anyway, so it's kinda moot. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] On becoming an Ubuntu Member
Alan Bell wrote: Last Tuesday I was accepted by the EMEA regional membership board as an Ubuntu Member, which is pretty cool. The reason I finally got round to putting myself forward is because I wanted to understand the process a bit better. This is some background and my current understanding of the process, and some of my previous misunderstandings. Congratulations on becoming an Ubuntu Member! Thanks for making this post, too. I'm considering applying for membership sometime soon (TM), and it was very helpful. -- Lesley Harrison -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :) I bought mine from ebuyer. There are other devices like this available. The Acer Revo 3600 is just one of the first. There are quite a few devices which also sport an ION GPU. The Acer has a 1.6GHz single core hyper threaded CPU, but there are others that have an Intel Atom 330 dual core hyper threaded CPU and the same ION GPU. If you're doing video playback then generally you won't need or use the extra core on the CPU, but it's something to think about. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
On 09/12/2009 10:27, javadayaz wrote: should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :) I'd say eBuyer as at the moment they have extended their returns so if you buy anything up until about the 18th December (I think) you can return it up to 31st Jan 2010. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
i think it will primarily for video playback...with the odd checking my google reader subscriptions/emails ...not much else! 2009/12/9 Alan Pope a...@popey.com 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :) I bought mine from ebuyer. There are other devices like this available. The Acer Revo 3600 is just one of the first. There are quite a few devices which also sport an ION GPU. The Acer has a 1.6GHz single core hyper threaded CPU, but there are others that have an Intel Atom 330 dual core hyper threaded CPU and the same ION GPU. If you're doing video playback then generally you won't need or use the extra core on the CPU, but it's something to think about. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Question about connecting it to my pc! Should i install a wifi card in my pc...or just a wifi router (hopefully from virgin when they come to install)? Your suggestions are welcome! 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com i think it will primarily for video playback...with the odd checking my google reader subscriptions/emails ...not much else! 2009/12/9 Alan Pope a...@popey.com 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :) I bought mine from ebuyer. There are other devices like this available. The Acer Revo 3600 is just one of the first. There are quite a few devices which also sport an ION GPU. The Acer has a 1.6GHz single core hyper threaded CPU, but there are others that have an Intel Atom 330 dual core hyper threaded CPU and the same ION GPU. If you're doing video playback then generally you won't need or use the extra core on the CPU, but it's something to think about. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Alan Pope wrote: 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :) I bought mine from ebuyer. There are other devices like this available. The Acer Revo 3600 is just one of the first. There are quite a few devices which also sport an ION GPU. The Acer has a 1.6GHz single core hyper threaded CPU, but there are others that have an Intel Atom 330 dual core hyper threaded CPU and the same ION GPU. If you're doing video playback then generally you won't need or use the extra core on the CPU, but it's something to think about. Cheers, Al. I've seen an Asrock 'IONStar' machine with a dual core Atom, and I believe it also has a slimline Bluray reader too but it's nearer £300. :-( On the other hand, a slightly more expensive option would be to go for a MiniITX case, Atom/ION board such as the Zotac board, and memory, hard drive etc but then you've got the hassle of putting it all together (personally I wouldn't mind myself as I'm always delving inside machines, but for some it might not be such an attractive option). Still for £150 the Revo sounds great. I'd get one for the kids if I could be sure they wouldn't break an LCD screen. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: Question about connecting it to my pc! I use Devolo Ethernet over power devices to get wired network to the Acer sat behind the telly. http://www.devolo.co.uk/consumer/7_dlan-200-aveasy_starter-kit_product-presentation_1.html?l=en Should i install a wifi card in my pc...or just a wifi router (hopefully from virgin when they come to install)? If they don't supply one you can get a wifi access point pretty cheap these days. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
javadayaz wrote: Question about connecting it to my pc! Should i install a wifi card in my pc...or just a wifi router (hopefully from virgin when they come to install)? Your suggestions are welcome! Well I'd say it depends how close your PC will be to the router. If Virgin are installing it then they should be happy enough to run a cable to where ever your PC is, that way you can connect the PC to the router directly, but if for some reason you want the modem router to be somewhere else, you can install a wireless card in your PC easily enough (not entirely sure what models work with Ubuntu out of the box, although saying that I have one which I need to install so I'll report back if it works). If you happen to have any devices (such as an original XBOX, PS2 Slim or PS2 with network adaptor etc) that don't have wireless you may also be interested in this: http://tinyurl.com/getnetrouteraria It's a 4 port wireless router which can be put into a wireless client mode. I got one of these for a friend who's got Virgin cable (he got his before they started giving out routers for free), and it can be configured to connect to an existing wireless network to convert from wireless to Ethernet. At £18, I thought it was a bargain and cheaper than using homeplug ethernet adaptors. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
well i was hoping to have the wireless router installed upstairs with the revo installed in a the living room getting its data from the pc upstairs through a router! 2009/12/9 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk javadayaz wrote: Question about connecting it to my pc! Should i install a wifi card in my pc...or just a wifi router (hopefully from virgin when they come to install)? Your suggestions are welcome! Well I'd say it depends how close your PC will be to the router. If Virgin are installing it then they should be happy enough to run a cable to where ever your PC is, that way you can connect the PC to the router directly, but if for some reason you want the modem router to be somewhere else, you can install a wireless card in your PC easily enough (not entirely sure what models work with Ubuntu out of the box, although saying that I have one which I need to install so I'll report back if it works). If you happen to have any devices (such as an original XBOX, PS2 Slim or PS2 with network adaptor etc) that don't have wireless you may also be interested in this: http://tinyurl.com/getnetrouteraria It's a 4 port wireless router which can be put into a wireless client mode. I got one of these for a friend who's got Virgin cable (he got his before they started giving out routers for free), and it can be configured to connect to an existing wireless network to convert from wireless to Ethernet. At £18, I thought it was a bargain and cheaper than using homeplug ethernet adaptors. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
javadayaz wrote: well i was hoping to have the wireless router installed upstairs with the revo installed in a the living room getting its data from the pc upstairs through a router! Virgin should be able to do that, it's just a case of running a cable from the main box on the front of the house to upstairs (I'm assuming it's Virgin Cable broadband rather than Virgin Broadband over at BT Phoneline?). In the days of NTL, they did this for me, I had a phone connection in the front room and a cable connection to the upstairs back bedroom. They ran the cable round the side of the house (it was a semi-detached). I'm not entirely sure how they would do it on say, a terraced house, they might possibly run a cable inside the house. If all else fails and they can't put the router upstairs for any reason, all you'd need is a wireless card for the PC and then the PC would connect to the Revo via the router (I'm guessing, it might even connect directly to the Revo). I would have thought if you could get a reasonably quick signal you should be able to stream SD and HD video as long as the bit rate isn't too high. IIRC Bluray video is about 40MBit/sec, so I'd have thought that Makrosa video files (h264 video) would be less than this, maybe nearer to 10MBit/sec. If all else fails, you can always go down the Homeplug route, or other half dependent, put in some CAT5/CAT6 cabling. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
well i was thinking that if virgin dont offer a wirless router, ill just buy one...connect my pc to that ( I wont then need to install a wifi card in my main pc right?) and then the revo and my pc can talk through the wifi router. i.e internet on the revo+ file tranfers! 2009/12/9 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk javadayaz wrote: well i was hoping to have the wireless router installed upstairs with the revo installed in a the living room getting its data from the pc upstairs through a router! Virgin should be able to do that, it's just a case of running a cable from the main box on the front of the house to upstairs (I'm assuming it's Virgin Cable broadband rather than Virgin Broadband over at BT Phoneline?). In the days of NTL, they did this for me, I had a phone connection in the front room and a cable connection to the upstairs back bedroom. They ran the cable round the side of the house (it was a semi-detached). I'm not entirely sure how they would do it on say, a terraced house, they might possibly run a cable inside the house. If all else fails and they can't put the router upstairs for any reason, all you'd need is a wireless card for the PC and then the PC would connect to the Revo via the router (I'm guessing, it might even connect directly to the Revo). I would have thought if you could get a reasonably quick signal you should be able to stream SD and HD video as long as the bit rate isn't too high. IIRC Bluray video is about 40MBit/sec, so I'd have thought that Makrosa video files (h264 video) would be less than this, maybe nearer to 10MBit/sec. If all else fails, you can always go down the Homeplug route, or other half dependent, put in some CAT5/CAT6 cabling. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
javadayaz wrote: well i was thinking that if virgin dont offer a wirless router, ill just buy one...connect my pc to that ( I wont then need to install a wifi card in my main pc right?) and then the revo and my pc can talk through the wifi router. i.e internet on the revo+ file tranfers! If Virgin don't give you a router (which is unlikely), then as long as your cable modem is near to your PC then yeah that would work as you'd just run a CAT5 cable from the cable modem to the router, and one from the router to the PC. When I had mine (which was a self install) they provided about 10 metres or so of CAT5 cable and a router. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Successful simple trojan hit gnome-look
See here for more: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/malware-found-in-screensaver-for-ubuntu.html -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Successful simple trojan hit gnome-look
2009/12/9 Johnathon Tinsley kir...@kirrus.co.uk: See here for more: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/malware-found-in-screensaver-for-ubuntu.html It's worth noting for those that don't know, when you install a package you are effectively giving the package creator (temporary) root access to your system. Packages are allowed to contain scripts that apt/dpkg run with root access (this is so they can install software in system directories like /usr, /etc). If the package creator was malicious, it would be easy to put any kind of command in there, including the infamous rm -rf / (or worse). The same applies equally to software you compile yourself if you run sudo make install. Think twice about installing packages from outside the Ubuntu repositories, Linux is only as secure as its weakest point, don't let that point be you :) Matthew PS. On the other hand I believe it is dpkg/Debian/Ubuntu's failure in that you can't (easily) install software in a sandbox... this isn't even that difficult to do for most software... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Successful simple trojan hit gnome-look
It may not be the same as a sandbox, but what about installing software that you are not sure about in a virtual ubuntu inside you main ubuntu say using virtualbox? Andrew Drapper 2009/12/9 Matthew Wild mwi...@gmail.com 2009/12/9 Johnathon Tinsley kir...@kirrus.co.uk: See here for more: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/malware-found-in-screensaver-for-ubuntu.html It's worth noting for those that don't know, when you install a package you are effectively giving the package creator (temporary) root access to your system. Packages are allowed to contain scripts that apt/dpkg run with root access (this is so they can install software in system directories like /usr, /etc). If the package creator was malicious, it would be easy to put any kind of command in there, including the infamous rm -rf / (or worse). The same applies equally to software you compile yourself if you run sudo make install. Think twice about installing packages from outside the Ubuntu repositories, Linux is only as secure as its weakest point, don't let that point be you :) Matthew PS. On the other hand I believe it is dpkg/Debian/Ubuntu's failure in that you can't (easily) install software in a sandbox... this isn't even that difficult to do for most software... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Successful simple trojan hit gnome-look
2009/12/9 Andrew Drapper and...@drapper.com: It may not be the same as a sandbox, but what about installing software that you are not sure about in a virtual ubuntu inside you main ubuntu say using virtualbox? This particular malware did nothing (so far) to the host machine, it simply used it (and collectively all the other machines it was installed on) to flood another server. Basically a primitive (yet effective) botnet. In this respect, if the virtual machine had network access, the malware would work still, it just wouldn't have the potential to harm *your* computer. Matthew -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Successful simple trojan hit gnome-look
Matthew Wild wrote: 2009/12/9 Andrew Drapper and...@drapper.com: It may not be the same as a sandbox, but what about installing software that you are not sure about in a virtual ubuntu inside you main ubuntu say using virtualbox? This particular malware did nothing (so far) to the host machine, it simply used it (and collectively all the other machines it was installed on) to flood another server. Basically a primitive (yet effective) botnet. In this respect, if the virtual machine had network access, the malware would work still, it just wouldn't have the potential to harm *your* computer. It wouldn't be hard to make this more effective either. The really scary trojan (whose name eludes me right now), managed to use effective algorithmically generated domain names for its update download location. And you can hide the packages files, even corrupt the debian packaging system to stop it from knowing about all the files you've installed... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Successful simple trojan hit gnome-look
On 09/12/2009 18:25, Johnathon Tinsley wrote: Matthew Wild wrote: 2009/12/9 Andrew Drapperand...@drapper.com: It may not be the same as a sandbox, but what about installing software that you are not sure about in a virtual ubuntu inside you main ubuntu say using virtualbox? This particular malware did nothing (so far) to the host machine, it simply used it (and collectively all the other machines it was installed on) to flood another server. Basically a primitive (yet effective) botnet. In this respect, if the virtual machine had network access, the malware would work still, it just wouldn't have the potential to harm *your* computer. It wouldn't be hard to make this more effective either. The really scary trojan *(whose name eludes me right now)*, managed to use effective algorithmically generated domain names for its update download location. And you can hide the packages files, even corrupt the debian packaging system to stop it from knowing about all the files you've installed... Are you referring to the Windows one, Conficker? James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
well i was thinking that if virgin dont offer a wirless router, ill just buy one...connect my pc to that ( I wont then need to install a wifi card in my main pc right?) and then the revo and my pc can talk through the wifi router. i.e internet on the revo+ file tranfers! I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is, I think, going through its death throes. I have my PC hooked up to my Netgear wireless router, as is my Xbox360. If I was to wire a Revo to the wireless router, how would I transfer files to it from the PC? Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a monitor cable, for hooking it up to my TV? Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :D -- Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk http://RonnieTucker.co.uk TWITTER: twitter.com/ronnietucker MSN: ronnietuc...@hotmail.com Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Ronnie Tucker wrote: well i was thinking that if virgin dont offer a wirless router, ill just buy one...connect my pc to that ( I wont then need to install a wifi card in my main pc right?) and then the revo and my pc can talk through the wifi router. i.e internet on the revo+ file tranfers! I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is, I think, going through its death throes. I have my PC hooked up to my Netgear wireless router, as is my Xbox360. If I was to wire a Revo to the wireless router, how would I transfer files to it from the PC? Well if you install Ubuntu on it I'd assume you could transfer files to it on the same way as you can with a PC, samba, nfs, sshfs, even FTP. Assuming your PC dishes out IP addresses to each network device, it should be a case of setting up some sort of sharing on the PC (I'm assuming you're running Ubuntu on the PC?). Then connect to the share from Ubuntu on the Revo. Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a monitor cable, for hooking it up to my TV? I haven't got one myself so I don't know, but I gather it has a HDMI port, so even if it doesn't, you're only looking about a fiver for a HDMI cable, also not sure about a keyboard or mouse but eBuyer.com do a nice wireless laptop size keyboard with touchpad (made by Keytronic I think, IIRC it's about £25). Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :D LOL, I've been holding off due to lack of funds at the moment (well, I have the funds, just not the agreement from the wife), if that wasn't a factor I'd have already got one of these plus a Hisense Media Player and a Bluray player. :-D Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Rob Beard wrote: Ronnie Tucker wrote: I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is, I think, going through its death throes. I have my PC hooked up to my Netgear wireless router, as is my Xbox360. If I was to wire a Revo to the wireless router, how would I transfer files to it from the PC? Well if you install Ubuntu on it I'd assume you could transfer files to it on the same way as you can with a PC, samba, nfs, sshfs, even FTP. Assuming your PC dishes out IP addresses to each network device, it should be a case of setting up some sort of sharing on the PC (I'm assuming you're running Ubuntu on the PC?). Then connect to the share from Ubuntu on the Revo. Yep, got Ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop machine, so hopefully I can FTP/Samba files across, either way - I'm getting one, sod it. :D Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a monitor cable, for hooking it up to my TV? I haven't got one myself so I don't know, but I gather it has a HDMI port, so even if it doesn't, you're only looking about a fiver for a HDMI cable, also not sure about a keyboard or mouse but eBuyer.com do a nice wireless laptop size keyboard with touchpad (made by Keytronic I think, IIRC it's about £25). From what I've read on eBuyer forum posts, the Revo comes WITH a keyboard and mouse, which makes it even more of a bargain! :D I'll buy an HDMI DVI cable to hook the Revo to my TV. Now if I could find a remote for it... (eBuyer don't have any PS3 remote controls in stock) Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :D LOL, I've been holding off due to lack of funds at the moment (well, I have the funds, just not the agreement from the wife), if that wasn't a factor I'd have already got one of these plus a Hisense Media Player and a Bluray player. :-D Rob Go on, just buy one. Tell the wife I said it was OK ;P Thanks! -- Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk http://RonnieTucker.co.uk TWITTER: twitter.com/ronnietucker MSN: ronnietuc...@hotmail.com Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Count me in as well. Lol On 9 Dec 2009 20:30, Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk wrote: Rob Beard wrote: Ronnie Tucker wrote: I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is,... Yep, got Ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop machine, so hopefully I can FTP/Samba files across, either way - I'm getting one, sod it. :D Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a monitor cable, for h... From what I've read on eBuyer forum posts, the Revo comes WITH a keyboard and mouse, which makes it even more of a bargain! :D I'll buy an HDMI DVI cable to hook the Revo to my TV. Now if I could find a remote for it... (eBuyer don't have any PS3 remote controls in stock) Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :DLOL, I've been holdin... Go on, just buy one. Tell the wife I said it was OK ;P Thanks! -- Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk http://RonnieTucker.co.ukTWITTER: twitter.com/ronniet... ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.c... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Unless anyone can suggest something similar in price..but better spec wise. On 9 Dec 2009 20:50, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Count me in as well. Lol On 9 Dec 2009 20:30, Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk wrote: Rob Beard wrote: Ronnie Tucker wrote: I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is,... Yep, got Ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop machine, so hopefully I can FTP/Samba files across, either... Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a monitor cable, for h... From what I've read on eBuyer forum posts, the Revo comes WITH a keyboard and mouse, which m... Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :DLOL, I've been holdin... Go on, just buy one. Tell the wife I said it was OK ;P Thanks! -- Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk http://RonnieTucker.co.ukTWITTER: twitter.com/ronniet... ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.c... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Ronnie Tucker wrote: Rob Beard wrote: Ronnie Tucker wrote: I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is, I think, going through its death throes. I have my PC hooked up to my Netgear wireless router, as is my Xbox360. If I was to wire a Revo to the wireless router, how would I transfer files to it from the PC? Well if you install Ubuntu on it I'd assume you could transfer files to it on the same way as you can with a PC, samba, nfs, sshfs, even FTP. Assuming your PC dishes out IP addresses to each network device, it should be a case of setting up some sort of sharing on the PC (I'm assuming you're running Ubuntu on the PC?). Then connect to the share from Ubuntu on the Revo. Yep, got Ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop machine, so hopefully I can FTP/Samba files across, either way - I'm getting one, sod it. :D LOL, what I tend to do on my laptop is just mount the samba shares on the server, does the trick nicely. Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a monitor cable, for hooking it up to my TV? I haven't got one myself so I don't know, but I gather it has a HDMI port, so even if it doesn't, you're only looking about a fiver for a HDMI cable, also not sure about a keyboard or mouse but eBuyer.com do a nice wireless laptop size keyboard with touchpad (made by Keytronic I think, IIRC it's about £25). From what I've read on eBuyer forum posts, the Revo comes WITH a keyboard and mouse, which makes it even more of a bargain! :D I'll buy an HDMI DVI cable to hook the Revo to my TV. I take it your TV has DVI? The HDMI to DVI cables aren't bad either, I have a 5 metre one from the wife's PC to the TV. I almost had a heart attack when I saw the prices of pretty much an identical cable in Currys (I say almost, I was half expecting it to be over priced). Now if I could find a remote for it... (eBuyer don't have any PS3 remote controls in stock) Is it possible to use a PS3 remote on Ubuntu? Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :D LOL, I've been holding off due to lack of funds at the moment (well, I have the funds, just not the agreement from the wife), if that wasn't a factor I'd have already got one of these plus a Hisense Media Player and a Bluray player. :-D Rob Go on, just buy one. Tell the wife I said it was OK ;P LOL, I don't think that would work. I'm getting a PS3 now anyway for Christmas, looks like it'll be a 40GB one which can run Linux. Okay I know Linux isn't that great on a PS3 but it's got to be better than Linux on the Wii or DS (which seem to be just on there for geek factor). I'm mulling over eventually getting a Revo, maybe not over Christmas, possibly sometime next year when Intel bring out the new Atom CPUs (I believe the new Atom netbooks are released in early January), with any luck the prices might drop a bit on the existing kit. Not sure what it'll do to NVidia though as I gather the new Atom chips have embedded memory controllers and graphics. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
javadayaz wrote: Unless anyone can suggest something similar in price..but better spec wise. It might be possible to build a dual core Celeron or Athlon X2 machine for around the same sort of price but you wouldn't match the Revo on size. The beauty of the Revo is it's compact and if you want a better spec machine than that you're looking at either a laptop (which would be more expensive) or some sort of media case (which are also expensive). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
I think I will wait like Rob for after xmas..hopefully a bit cheaper On 9 Dec 2009 21:19, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: javadayaz wrote: Unless anyone can suggest something similar in price..but better spec wise. ... It might be possible to build a dual core Celeron or Athlon X2 machine for around the same sort of price but you wouldn't match the Revo on size. The beauty of the Revo is it's compact and if you want a better spec machine than that you're looking at either a laptop (which would be more expensive) or some sort of media case (which are also expensive). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
javadayaz wrote: I think I will wait like Rob for after xmas..hopefully a bit cheaper I'm only waiting because the wife won't be happy me spending nearly £200 on 'a games console' as she puts it, then another £150 on 'more computer junk'. There is the slight chance that the prices may not go down, I mean it's rock bottom at the moment anyway at £150, I dare say there isn't much margin on these things. In the mean time I'm continuing to put up with the Windows 7 multiple monitors feature of it randomly deciding what monitor to use as the main display. :-D Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
