Re: [ubuntu-uk] Password Requirement On Automatic Updates
On 2020-06-12 13:12, Nigel Verity wrote: 123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345 Most days I get a notification dialog informing me of pending updates. Sometimes I install immediately, other times I'll click the "Remind Me Later" button. I've noticed an inconsistency regarding whether I am required to enter a password before the update proceeds. There appears to be no pattern determined by whether I install immediately or delay it until later. Does anybody know if the security policy for updates has changed? In all previous Ubuntu incarnations I've used I've always, without exception, had to provide a password prior to an update proceeding. Discretionary updates using the command line or Synaptic always require a password, so the issue seems to be concerned solely with the updater service. It looks like a bug to me but I don't want to waste anybody's time if it is in some way intentional. I believe the policy is that a password will only be required if an upgrade results in the installation of new packages, e.g. an upgrade of the linux-image-generic package would result in the installation of a different linux-image-x.y.z-generic package, whereas upgrading something like vim would just install a newer version of the same package. HTH, JT -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] SOT - What phone do you use?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/03/15 09:10, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > Hi all, Just trying to get a straw poll of what phones people use > here and why... Ubuntu Phone on a Nexus 4, because I believe in dogfooding, and whenever I try to use an Android device now I have to think about what I'm doing. JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlT5fCkACgkQyDo4xMNTLibRoACcD8l8Byc7m6kQ3qr5BReTjpuT mOAAoJMQZ+FnAXwfRz9rUWcfZIDLiwcz =iAS9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reverse engineering data files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/11/14 19:23, Gareth France wrote: > It is readable, but no more so than if you just load it into perl > using binmode. I'm currently struggling with identifying the > different fields within the data. I've been plucking them out > manually which is fine for the first half then I find some of them > are variable length and I have no way of identifying where they > start. Variable length fields are often prefixed with a field length, so the software knows how many bytes to read, or null-terminated, so the software reads until it reaches a 0x00 byte. On 23/11/14 23:19, Gareth France wrote:> The time and date is whenever the test was performed. I should imagine > there will be a lot of 'flags' Earth bond 25A yes, earth bond 10A > no, earth bond 100ma no, insulation test yes, visual pass, etc, > etc. And binary flags may well be encoded into a bit field, i.e. one or more bytes where each bit represents a yes or a no. I'm assuming the files you're currently working with are for your customers, and so can't reasonably be made public. Do you have access to some test files that could be shared? Many eyes on the problem may aid quicker progress. Also, the make and model of the device might help. JT - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlRzWn0ACgkQyDo4xMNTLibm1QCbBDiQth7x1ZBTxZK9+LYelY/M yAYAn3qyzuKGyTAWUXRmcUwaTyl5rfZq =KxQP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop
On 06/11/14 21:01, Barry Drake wrote: > On 05/11/14 15:22, Bill B. wrote: >> We also need to [always], whether we know the answer or not ask >> one question when dealing with "big companies". "Does in work >> with Linux"? > > Our local PCWorld has a policy (official) that staff must say: "We > don't support Linux". I complained to head office and was told: > "This is because we don't sell anything with Linux installed." A little over four years ago, I had reason to buy a decently-spec'd laptop at very short notice, and PC World was the only realistic option. I was expecting exactly this kind of attitude, and was ready to rebuff any offers of "help" that would try to steer me towards and over-priced machine with Windows and all the add-ons. A young lad came and asked if I needed any help, and I initially gave him the brush-off with "just browsing for now, thanks." He did persist, though, so I explained that I was starting a new job on Monday, would be working from home, and wanted a fairly powerful laptop with a full HD screen, but didn't care about the software on it because I'd be wiping it and installing Ubuntu as soon as I got it home. Far from "we don't support Linux", his eyes lit up and he started asking what I was going to be using it for, where I'd be working, etc. I came away with a knock-down deal on a Sony Vaio that, while it gave me some initial teething problems with the nVidia graphics, served me well until my laptop refresh last year, and is now providing solid Facebook service to my wife. I suppose the moral of the story is, regardless of PC World's "official" policy, sometimes it just comes down to the particular member of staff you end up dealing with. JT P.S. I now have a System76 Gazelle Pro, which I bought just over a year ago. Great display (I went for the IPS upgrade), excellent performance, but the keyboard (even with the proper Ubuntu key) is terrible. Having heard about PCSpecialist on this list, I configured a similarly-spec'd laptop, and the price came in roughly £500 cheaper, and obviously without the £200 import tax. -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Toshiba Satellite Wireless Lock-down?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/07/13 09:12, Dave Morley wrote: > On 11/07/13 00:12, James Tait wrote: >> jtait@mothership:~$ rfkill list 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft >> blocked: no Hard blocked: yes > >> I've tried countless "solutions" on ubuntuforums and so on. Is >> it possible that Toshiba have decided to lock the laptop down to >> a specific kind of wireless card? > > Is it a uefi + secure booted laptop? If so then it might be that > the hardware needs to be registered somehow in order to be valid. > Just thinking out loud. No, it's a bog-standard old-fashioned BIOS. There is a toggle in there for the wireless, but it doesn't seem to do anything. On 11/07/13 09:22, pete smout wrote: > My Acer laptop (intel Wifi card) suffered wifi probs on 12.04, > never did get to the bottom of it, but upgrading to 13.04 solved > it! I know this is not necessarily a solution but if you can pin > down what has changed between the versions it might help (I have to > admit once it 'fixed itself' I stopped looking!) if it helps ill > post the output of some helpful commands below, and if you want any > other info I would be happy to provide it. pete@petes-lappy:~$ > lspci Yes, this might be useful: jtait@mothership:~$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03) 00:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03) 00:1a.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 03) 00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 03) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03) 00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 03) 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) 00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03) 00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801IBM/IEM (ICH9M/ICH9M-E) 4 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 03) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03) 0e:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02) 14:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) jtait@mothership:~$ sudo lspci -vvv [snip] 14:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+ Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- SERR- pete@petes-lappy:~$ rfkill list 0: acer-wireless: Wireless LAN Soft > blocked: no Hard blocked: no 1: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: > no Hard blocked: no That's interesting - is it usual to have $(VENDOR)-wireless and phy$(IF_NUM)? I don't have an equivalent toshiba-wireless, but the EeePC does have eeepc-wlan. > I have just found some interesting ideas here: > http://www.linuxplained.com/how-to-fix-wireless-problems-in-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin/ > > (why I could not find these when I was suffering I have no idea!) > but the one about disabling power saver on the wifi card makes > sense to me! I don't recognise the page, but I do recognise the suggestions: jtait@mothership:~$ sudo iwconfig wlan2 power off Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) : SET failed on device wlan2 ; Operation not supported. jtait@mothership:~$ sudo modprobe -r iwl4965 jtait@mothership:~$ sudo modprobe iwl4965 11n_disable=1 jtait@mothership:~$ rfkill list 1: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: yes Something seems to
[ubuntu-uk] Toshiba Satellite Wireless Lock-down?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Recently my wife's laptop has been experiencing some wireless issues - slow performance, drop-outs and the like. We have numerous wireless-enabled devices in the house and although we have the occasional blip, none of the other devices seem to be affected to the same extent, so I figured it was probably related to the laptop itself and set about trying to figure out what the problem might be. The laptop is a Toshiba Satellite L450-188 running Ubuntu 12.04 with the LTS backport kernel from Raring. The original wireless card in it is a Realtek RTL8191SE. I tried replacing it with the Atheros-based card from my son's EeePC, but although the card was apparently recognised, and the ath5k module loaded, the card was disabled: jtait@mothership:~$ rfkill list 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: yes rfkill unblock has no effect - no error, but the card remains hard blocked. The wireless key (Fn-F8) simply toggles the soft block, and the laptop has no hardware switch that I can see. There's a setting in the BIOS that doesn't seem to have any effect. So I picked up an Intel IWL4965AGN card on eBay for a couple of quid and tried that, but the result was the same: jtait@mothership:~$ rfkill list 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: yes I've tried countless "solutions" on ubuntuforums and so on. Is it possible that Toshiba have decided to lock the laptop down to a specific kind of wireless card? JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHd6kUACgkQyDo4xMNTLibh2wCfWr8NwbhGJzcGQZYZA5nrcURS WAsAoODMMA/GGCd2lMSPZ6TjGpxld+ef =8BRb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/05/13 15:59, Byte Soup wrote: > On 10 May 2013 10:02, James Tait <mailto:james.t...@wyrddreams.org>> wrote: > > On 09/05/13 23:04, SuperEngineer wrote: >> just one final word (sentence)- my word "educate" was >> deliberate... get the kids using Linux, let them think it's >> 'normal'. > > I'm sure my boys' response to that would be "Why, isn't it?" > > Kids are impatient, they dont want to wait for things to happen, > and generally they dont want to be bothered with installing a > package or searching out equivalent application to get what they > want, so when they google "how to do " invariably the > answers will all come back based on the most widely used operating > system so they will say "why cant we just have a windows machine > like our school / my mate steve etc" And therein lies the opportunity for education. It's not an easy conversation to have with kids, admittedly, but it is one worth having. My point was that, in a household where all the computers run Ubuntu, Windows would be considered the oddity - though I totally understand your point. > I can only speak from my personal experience, my kids are no > strangers to different interfaces but they are not interested in > bringing up a command shell to solve a problem and as this is not > something seen commonly in the schools, so we'll end up with a lot > of the next generation being more technology "consumers" than > "creators" ... thats only my thoughts though. My youngest (6) totally surprised me the other day. My boys got into Minecraft on my wife's Android phone, and wanted to play it on their computer. He looked it up on the Software Centre and it cost money, so he came to me for help. I ended up installing Minetest, a GPL-licensed game of the same ilk, and we've been playing that. I set up a network server for us all to play on, but sometimes they play single-player on their own machines. My eldest (9) has created a world which he's called Nyancoaster, and the youngest wanted to play on it. Unfortunately there was a bug (now fixed - we're using the daily PPA - which was a conversation in itself) in the GUI that starts up a network server, which was causing a segfault. So I said I'd look into setting up a server for Nyancoaster on the one machine that they could both connect to once I'd finished work. He went away and Googled for "Minetest server", found the instructions and came to me to ask: "how do you get that thing where you do your programmy thing?" He meant the terminal, of course, and once I showed him that he was quite happy to try the commands himself. Kids are impatient and demanding and want to do all the stuff their friends do - but they're also inquisitive and fearless and sometimes like to do something a little bit different to everyone else, and then share it and have their friends say "Wow, that's cool!" It's just a matter of finding that thing that sparks the imagination. JT - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGNJioACgkQyDo4xMNTLiY3pACfUuy1ARZhLMDqMlZsJF0pMQ4b HFgAoOWBDkU6hgt3k/GJlBmZRmzYJ0gG =RQuf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/05/13 23:04, SuperEngineer wrote: > just one final word (sentence)- my word "educate" was deliberate... > get the kids using Linux, let them think it's 'normal'. I'm sure my boys' response to that would be "Why, isn't it?" JT - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGMt6UACgkQyDo4xMNTLiZ37ACdHbFAScCMV0uk5GTEmZYy6WQ4 DwUAoN72qhJvg58W8ZRF9vhuDRiLzCwf =etBK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DSL provider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/05/13 08:36, TT Mooney wrote: > I've been a happy user of O2 broadband for years, but now that > Murdoch has laid his hands on it, I want to change provider. > > Does anyone have a recommendation? I used to have BT, and they > were mostly useless. There is a bit of bittorent going on, so I'm > looking for an uncapped adsl2 service. Virgin Media is not > available in my area. I've been a happy customer of Andrews and Arnold [0] for almost two years. I started off with a BT line, then switched to Be, but I'm also planning to move away from them with the Murdoch take over. AA deal with BT for you, and they do a good job of it. To be fair, the only reason I switched to a Be backhaul was cost. I won't go into all the details here, they're on the web site, but briefly the Home::1 package offers a real (no NAT) IPv4 address, a /48 native IPv6 block and 50GB any time downloads for £25 a month. After that, it's up to you to choose what add-ons you need. HTH, JT [0] http://aa.net.uk/ - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGIxEsACgkQyDo4xMNTLib5XgCaAzoio0it0HzeZxAX5owopxC6 BRkAoLGclyNewZuzO/S98dGbUwbpKfvX =vP0B -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] No new mail notifications from Thunderbird in 13.04
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/13 14:00, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > I'm not seeing the two useful notifications that I usually had in > 12.10 and 12.04. I'm not talking about the optional balloon > notification, I'm talking about: If you go to the Tools > Add-ons menu in Thunderbird, do you have the Messaging and Unity Launcher integration add-on installed? It *should* be installed as part of the Thunderbird package from the standard Ubuntu repos, but maybe it's disabled, or maybe Thunderbird is installed from a PPA? Alternatively, you should be able to prompt Thunderbird to present the Profile Manage on startup with Alt-F2 > thunderbird -P Create a new profile and see if it works there - if so, the problem is related to your existing profile. HTH, JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGDx2UACgkQyDo4xMNTLiZjUgCgzwK0HR268CBaKbsihA2PCsU2 00EAn0WUwPurvn0zNsCSdOdJDsRcbkVq =lnDz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sorely disappointed with U1 Music Store
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/04/13 19:53, Bill Baker wrote: > On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 16:07 +0100, James Tait wrote: >> I would suggest someone with recent experience of this files the >> bug and sees where it goes. > One of my earlier mails did ask: "Under what should I file this > bug? Ubuntu, Ubuntu One, RhythymBox, 7Digital?" > > As RhythymBox support has/is ceased/ceasing - where would be the > most productive? Sorry, I wasn't clear. As Dave has said, the only route to a refund is via the support form. The more information you can provide - dates, times, amounts, tracks purchased - the easier it should be for us to track down. The bug I was suggesting someone (not even necessarily you, just anyone with recent experience of this problem) file would probably be a wish list bug about the error message. Again, Dave has answered the question of where, but for the sake of completeness (and to save you digging through your inbox looking for the link) here it is again: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-music-store/+filebug Cheers, JT - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlFvJMYACgkQyDo4xMNTLib+IACcCeRhipVYYhrN8oJernegW5qD L0IAoJAeGBBmJ5qQiKLyv/Ba7BtZNvBw =JZyE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sorely disappointed with U1 Music Store
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/04/13 11:56, Penelope Stowe wrote: > I wonder if it would be useful to file a bug suggesting that error > messages in the music store (if possible, only when the error > comes during an actual purchase) include a recommendation to check > with your bank to see if money has been withdrawn before > re-attempting your purchase? I would suggest someone with recent experience of this files the bug and sees where it goes. At least that way it's on the radar, so to speak, and if it turns out not to be feasible, the reasons will be on public record. Thanks! JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlFuusoACgkQyDo4xMNTLib8GACg9grGvOLrQMSsbsnLoljyMmsg SyAAoI+lWTdWSqdB6Cs3vxjGRkbe2n3W =J0Fk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sorely disappointed with U1 Music Store
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16/04/13 22:25, Bod Soutar wrote: > On Apr 15, 2013 8:59 PM, "SuperEngineer" wrote: >> If that's not enough info to give when I eventually get home >> early enough to take action... well > As for the bug report, you don't have enough info to file anything > that will get looked at, at best the bug will sit there for a while > until one of the maintainers buys something and closes it because > they can't reproduce. Your best bet is to report the problem to > whoever took the payment and let them work out what went wrong. Well, that's a fairly bleak outlook. When an error occurs, you should see a message to the effect of "our engineers have been notified and will work to fix this". Guess what? We're not lying! Errors in the services produce stack traces which we see in the form of an aggregated daily OOPS report. We do take notice of these and use them to fix bugs and improve the service. Yeah, we're human too But we can't keep these reports around forever, so I've taken the liberty of saving away some potential candidates from Saturday morning's report, as well as the web logs. The sooner Billy gets details of the attempted purchases to support, the sooner he'll get his refund and the more likely we are to be able to tally it with an OOPS report and still have useful logs to possibly [0] fix it. Cheers, JT [0] http://goo.gl/ZTE17 - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlFtyzcACgkQyDo4xMNTLiaDrgCfR5dOrWOTJhOUA6zmCpU2Wvok 2KMAn2OrU5mTjcKWS4OgzxTYClXvqs/j =smbQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sorely disappointed with U1 Music Store
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/04/13 21:23, Billy Baker wrote: > All I know is that Somebody Owes Me Money - and they are hiding the > way to a refund! Nothing is being hidden. ;) The Ubuntu One FAQs [0] answer a plethora of questions just like this. I'll save you the effort of reading through them all and suggest you use the contact form [1] to get in touch with support, who will help to make sure you get your purchased tracks and your refund, and, given enough information, might be able to file a bug on your behalf to ensure this doesn't happen again. Cheers, JT [0] https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/ [1] https://one.ubuntu.com/help/contact/ - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlFolDkACgkQyDo4xMNTLibrgwCg0SHxpOaSu8q+fSfNHKi8aMcT 2iYAniRP9N2nvj/BnZ7gtGWBaps4cSg/ =OCF7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Video for dual-boot with UEFI Secure Boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Following on from the recent discussions about UEFI Secure Boot, this dropped into my Inbox over the weekend. It's a series of three videos that may or may not help to explain what goes on during installation of a dual-boot UEFI system with Secure Boot enabled. - ---8<--- http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLk2sjg_-F-McRbCBoVRkP1sYMbmDf6zJM My video series on dual-boot with Win8 & Ubuntu 12.10 using UEFI secure Boot. The Ubuntu-focused segment is in Part 3. It's not exactly Mythbusters, but I hope it helps dispel a lot of the UEFI Secure Boot nonsense. - ---8<--- Cheers, JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEskL8ACgkQyDo4xMNTLiaVVQCfRoVNuXy0TPtOj0GAYrX5PRCN elMAn2ZNs81h/8z+2aYdszk3hmPJ8bTd =GaAP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/13 13:12, Colin Law wrote: > On 7 February 2013 12:21, Gareth France > wrote: Start top running in a terminal and leave it running. If > you can keep the top few lines visible at the bottom of the screen > then even better. Or, and I realise this means running another process on a system that's already struggling, maybe give conky a try: apt://conky-std https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlETtLoACgkQyDo4xMNTLib/OwCcDZNr0Z7J///yDiYKRlFefzkq bdYAoPVbjCg+9p+1zqHEP9Z1fDnDu6et =mVCr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/13 12:08, Colin Law wrote: > On 7 February 2013 11:59, Gareth France > wrote: >> ... I've switched to chromium to see what difference that makes. >> I'll try restarting thunderbird and see what happens > > When it is running slow is it using Swap memory? You can see that > using System Monitor or top in a terminal. I ask because earlier > I think you said the disk light was going mad, which is a symptom > of swapping. With 4GB of RAM it should not need to swap. This sounds bang on the money to me and mirrors my own experience. Firefox and Thunderbird use up quite a lot of RAM, but my laptop has 6GB and I still have the same problem periodically. I haven't yet managed to narrow it down, though, so I've been unable to offer any useful information. JT - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlETn9cACgkQyDo4xMNTLiZeigCfbqjEfu6d4XB38FgMkatOEhcW JVIAmwTJbbEf8TWSR3pMYvMFqDxEvxkn =vIWd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] apt on cd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/05/12 19:59, paul sutton wrote: > Am i right in thinking the idea behind aptoncd is to create a local > (say on cd or usb stick) apt repository ? that I can then point a > netbook at and have it install from there (use software sources to > point at the cd or usb stick) where the deb files etc are. or > perhaps copy the contents of the usb stick to the actual netbook > and install that way ? It creates a repository on a CD that you can then add as a software source, or restore using APTonCD itself. It takes the package files from /var/cache/apt/archives to create the repository. The typical order of events is something like: * Install Ubuntu on machine A * Add a bunch of packages that weren't in the default installation * Use APTonCD to create a repository containing those packages * Take your CD to another Ubuntu installation You can then either: * Insert the CD and use Software Sources > Other software > Add volume OR, if APTonCD is installed on the destination machine: * Use the APTonCD restore function If you choose the first option, the packages will be installed directly from the CD and you won't get any new .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives, while choosing the second option restores all the .deb files to /var/cache/apt/archives and installs them from there. HTH, JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+2D78ACgkQyDo4xMNTLibMogCfbX/bywhdVmGE6SCyaoEZXhBh D5sAn29APbBj002YFJpbsPKUmwM/898m =oTLp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Live flash disk image installing extra packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/05/12 16:15, paul sutton wrote: > as my local youth centre has really locked down internet and I want > to try and install ubuntu / lubuntu along with some extra stuff > such as ruby, python, python-pygame, scratch etc, from a live > session type install without having to worry about installing after > wards through a Sounds like a job for APTonCD. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/APTonCD Cheers, JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+1GBsACgkQyDo4xMNTLia57QCgk60IXzwVosiFZtE30l51KlJW S5MAn3JyWf5xYBnfRXDCMTHVosDMX9kB =Xhgc -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Quantal ....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15/05/12 10:18, Barry Drake wrote: > On 15/05/12 10:01, Kris Douglas wrote: >> Are there anything new in 12.10 yet? I wouldn't have thought so. > No there are no significant changes yet. I *think* - based on the mail from Colin Watson [0] and a very quick query on IRC - that the big sync from Debian is still to happen due to hardware issues, which would account for the lack of significant change so far. I'd be quite happy to be corrected, though, and I admire your enthusiasm, Barry! Cheers, JT [0] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-April/035153.html - -- - ---+-------- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+yPrwACgkQyDo4xMNTLibSSQCfeNsRPxua4VrNJ6GqaqLfBqjZ oVsAoPyuO3mTfQi73Ueq9xFMLY/kPwpD =KPU2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Missing window decoration after failed upgrade to 12.04
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tony, On 01/05/12 22:57, Tony Pursell wrote: > On 29 April 2012 18:58, Tony Pursell wrote: On 29/04/12 18:32, Tony > Pursell wrote: >> The first one to show up is a lack of window decoration. > > I have rebooted and the widow decoration has returned. > > I spoke too soon on this. Yesterday, after a few hours uptime, > the window decoration suddenly disappeared again. Also I notice > that the background to the login screen is just the Ubuntu default > and not my desktop wallpaper as it should now be. To be honest, this just sounds like either compiz or gnome-settings-daemon is crashing. When it happens, do you still have a launcher? If you do, I think that rules out compiz. Otherwise "unity --reset" may help, though the usual disclaimers apply. If possible, you might try joining #ubuntu-desktop on Freenode. They're a helpful, friendly, clueful bunch - they instantly latched onto a similar kind of problem I was having a while back, helped me to work around it in the short term and pushed the fix through quickly. JT - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+g9MIACgkQyDo4xMNTLibEIwCdFOgavEnHjOszyZ/QhMbi0JmD opQAnjuPI9O++Zh+NMrd44HH7TokmkJ8 =dTYB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange notification message on desktop
On 31/03/12 14:07, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 31 March 2012 10:32, David King mailto:linux...@avoura.com>> wrote: I just had a strange notification message in Ubuntu that appeared after logging in. It was in a yellow box, bottom right hand corner, like various others that appear there. But this one said "Semantic storage" and had a big red square with an X in it. [snip] It sounds like it would be related to a cloud storage system so most likely to be Ubuntu One. I'm pretty sure it's not Ubuntu One. The semantic part makes me think of something like Zeitgeist, perhaps? Which version of Ubuntu is this? JT -- ---+-------- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Does AV chat work with Jabber?
On 23/03/12 10:15, Miia Ranta wrote: On 22 March 2012 22:16, Tony Pursell wrote: Hi Folks Does anyone know if Audio and Video (AV) chat works with Jabber from Empathy? have finally cleared. So, I was just wondering - who is your XMPP/Jabber account provider? It just might be that the problem is with the connection in between, not with the application you're using to connect. Indeed. I run my own XMPP server (ejabberd on Ubuntu 10.04 on a Bytemark VM), so it's entirely possible I've misconfigured something there. I really haven't investigated at all, so anything is possible. JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Does AV chat work with Jabber?
On 22/03/12 22:16, Tony Pursell wrote: Does anyone know if Audio and Video (AV) chat works with Jabber from Empathy? [snip] However, when we tried Jabber AV chat we got no connection. I would like to show him that we can move away from Skype, especially as we can expect no more Linux support for it now that Microsoft have bought them. I have just been trying to make a Jabber AV connection between two computers at home using Empathy and that has been a failure too, although I have had it working OK in the past. Both ends just showed 'Connecting' and even when I hung up both ends, my desktop computer showed Pulseaudio and zeitgeist-daemon taking up to 100% of both CPU cores and 80% of the 2GB ram, until I killed them both. What experience do other people have? Although I don't recall seeing the PulseAudio and zeitgeist-daemon problem, your experiences largely match my own. I work away from home for one week every six months or so, and have tried various solutions for calling my wife and two boys. Skype stopped working for us altogether, so we decided to try Jabber. When it works, it's fantastic, but it does seem very temperamental. I thought it was probably due to NAT traversal issues, but configuring a STUN server didn't help[0], and even on the same WLAN we had problems. I haven't had chance to look into it any further recently, but I really should before I go away again. The last time I went away I used SIP from my Android phone using the hotel wifi to our land line via VoipFone. No video, but crystal clear voice calls from Argentina for 1.2p/min. JT [0] How did I do that? Good question, but I don't think it was using Empathy. Maybe it was Psi+. -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Since my last update
On 06/03/12 17:33, James Morrissey wrote: 3. Suspend on lid-close appears to have stopped working - the box is checked in my power preferences This recently stopped working for me as well, although I'm using Precise. http://pad.lv/948844 JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shut down button missing on upgrade
On 06/01/12 09:43, John MM wrote: So how do we figure out why it isn't running? That's a more difficult question to answer. :) I think there are a couple of options: By running it in a terminal, it may be more obvious when it's actually crashed. At least you should get some output on the terminal when it does, and then you can file a bug using "apport-bug indicator-session". Another alternative is to enable apport [0] to automatically help with bug submissions when an application crashes - even the ones that happen when you first boot up and login, so if gnome-settings-daemon is being started but crashing, this will catch it. You may discover that there is already a bug raised that addresses this, in which case you should just select the "This affects me too" option and optionally subscribe to updates. If not, then you should just describe then symptoms you're seeing in the bug report. Either way, this will improve your odds of getting a clueful developer on the case who will probably get to the bottom of the problem fairly quickly. Be aware, however, that enabling apport system-wide will cause it to prompt you to raise bug reports any time anything crashes - so you may want to disable it after you've raised this particular bug. :) In my case, I'm running the Ubuntu One nightlies PPA and there was a problem in the ubuntuone-client-gnome package which was causing gnome-session-daemon to crash. I would never have made the link, but I filed a report and was directed to #ubuntu-desktop on Freenode where a couple of people very quickly zeroed in on the problem and then looked at a previous bug report I'd raised and made the connection. HTH, JT [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#How_to_enable_apport -- -------+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shut down button missing on upgrade
On 05/01/12 15:06, scoundrel50a wrote: Wow, that helped sort of. It is something to do with gnome-settings-daemon. If I enter that into a terminal, funny thing happens in the left panel and the top panel, and the Drop down menu appears. If I close the terminal, it goes away again Yes - this is because when you close the terminal, you also terminate and subprocesses launched from it, in this case gnome-settings-daemon. You can append a '&' (i.e. gnome-settings-daemon&) to background the process and then it should continue running after the terminal window is closed. Alternatively, you can keep the terminal open, which might help you to track down whatever it is that's causing gnome-settings-daemon to crash, or see below does that mean the gnome-settings-daemon is not running, Yes. :) and should it be running all the time, Yes. :) and also, how can I get the Icon to remain, without having to keep the terminal open.. You can run it from the "Run a command" prompt via alt-F2, but the important point here is that you shouldn't need to - it should already be running. Something is causing it to crash, and it would be nice if we could figure out what. JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shut down button missing on upgrade
On 05/01/12 12:55, scoundrel50a wrote: Funny thing though, as I was trying along all the top panel to left/right click, I took the curser right to the right edge of the window, and right clicked, by accident, and low and behold, the drop down menu appeared.how do I get it to show.. Right, I probably know what this is then. Same thing happened to me recently, albeit on Precise. That menu there is called the Session Indicator, and is presented by indicator-session-service (ps -efw | grep indicator-session-service should show it). But it only appears for gnome-settings-daemon is running (ps -efw | grep gnome-settings-daemon probably won't show that in this case). Alt-F2 and enter gnome-settings-daemon in the text field and the menu should magically appear. Incidentally, have you also noticed problems with your theme? When it happened to me all my icons, buttons, etc. reverted to stock GTK+ ones. JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting
On 28/11/11 10:07, Colin Law wrote: On 28 November 2011 09:44, Jon Reynolds wrote: On Thu, November 24, 2011 19:36, Liam Proven wrote: Would you say your signature should be at the complete bottom, including all quoted text, or just after your immediate reply? I would say that if your signature is, almost literally, a signature (so your name and maybe one or two additional lines) then put it inline, as I do. Any more than this then put your name after your last line of posting, in order to terminate the posting and put the rest of the rubbish at the bottom so that nobody has to look at it (they never read it anyway so even better not to include it at all). I agree with the last part of what you said - if it's not relevant, get rid of it. Logically, then, your signature will be the last thing in your e-mail - so both "at the complete bottom" and "just after your immediate reply" are true. JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
On 18/10/11 17:57, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: But it's been like this for years and I think I may well have filed a bug years ago, but it's obviously not even been on Canonicals radar at all... To me it's the one thing that will stop people using Ubuntu and preferring Windows - MS Office does this automatically and so does the version of LO that you can get from the LO website but if the software is supplied as part of the install shouldn't people expect ALL the functions to be there? Why do they miss one of the most important out? If the issue is that you can use your Evolution address book(s) as a mail merge source in Base, but not your Thunderbird address book, you could try installing thunderbird-couchdb. This allows Thunderbird to access the address book in desktopcouch via the Evolution Data Server; if Base also uses EDS to get the address books, it should be available. JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu One broken on 10.04?
On 11/10/11 17:52, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: Thanks for that information - its gone a long way to answering my questions. On an aside, do you know if there are any plans to introduce LAN synching, like Dropbox? Now that IS instantaneous between different machines... It's been discussed. There's a Blueprint for it [0], and there was a session about it at UDS-O [1], [2], but as for if and where it is on the roadmap, I don't know. Cheers, JT [0] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+spec/desktop-o-ubuntuone-lan-sync [1] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/desktop-o-ubuntuone-lan-sync/ [2] http://mirrors.tumbleweed.org.za/uds-o/2011-05-09-14-10-desktop-o-ubuntuone-lan-sync.ogg -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu One broken on 10.04?
On 11/10/11 14:27, Simon Greenwood wrote: As far as I remember, synching isn't simultaneous and there is a polling interval, which I think is ten minutes. I'm sure James will be able to confirm that. I actually work on the server side, specifically the web interface, and know embarrassingly little about the desktop client. I do know at a fairly high level, though, that the desktop client maintains a connection to the Ubuntu One servers and monitors synchronised directories for changes. Those changes are then synchronised on the server (hence they appear instantaneously in the web interface) and a signal is sent to all connected clients, causing them to download the updated files. You can see all this in your syncdaemon log in $HOME/.cache/ubuntuone/log or in the syncdaemon source code, if you're so inclined. There are lots of reasons why the updates might not be happening as quickly as expected, including network flakiness, network traffic or system load at either end or in between, server updates, service outages As a test, I created a file on my Natty desktop in a folder I have shared with my wife and it appeared on her desktop within a few minutes of resuming from suspend. JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu One broken on 10.04?
On 11/10/11 12:07, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: Is Ubuntu One broken on 10.04? The Windows app works and synchronises with the internet - I can't get it to synchronise on 10.04. We're not aware of any current service issues. Normally we will list issues on our Service Status page [0] and broadcast them on our Twitter [1] and identi.ca [2] streams as soon as we become aware of them. There may be some information in the FAQs [3] that can help to diagnose this, otherwise you can contact Support [4] who will be able to help out. Cheers, JT [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status [1] http://twitter.com/UbuntuOne [2] http://identi.ca/ubuntuone [3] https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/ [4] https://one.ubuntu.com/help/contact/ -- ---+-------- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems With Thunderbird and Lightning
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/09/11 10:15, Jon Farmer wrote: > I am trying to get the lightning pluigin working with Thunderbird. > However every time I try to install it complains it is not compatible > with my version of Thunderbird. Lightning is working for me on Natty 64-bit with the following configuration: jtait@sixtymilesmile:~$ apt-cache policy xul-ext-lightning xul-ext-lightning: Installed: 1.0~b2+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 Candidate: 1.0~b2+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 Version table: *** 1.0~b2+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/universe amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status jtait@sixtymilesmile:~$ apt-cache policy thunderbird thunderbird: Installed: 3.1.13+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 Candidate: 3.1.13+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 Version table: *** 3.1.13+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates/main amd64 Packages 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-security/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 3.1.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu4 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/main amd64 Packages jtait@sixtymilesmile:~$ I do recall (as Alan Lord pointed out) that there was a problem with Lightning in Maverick, and I'm pretty sure I had to download it directly from the website to work around that. JT - -- - ---+-------- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6AUY0ACgkQyDo4xMNTLiY9EACgvS3dvOlvV05UwqN0eZs0Pmtc jqkAn1v8/g+M2SlQsAGbzfhjKpxy3R/0 =cgPI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source Schools Project - literacy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/09/11 12:19, Sarah Chard wrote: > feedback from teachers from the first school we visited as a part of our > OSSP is that they really need good quality programs that address > literacy not just letters and spelling but grammar, punctuation and > sentence construction > > any thoughts? Gcompris [0] may provide some of that. I have a vague recollection of my eldest son playing a game where he had to put the correct word in the sentence, but glancing over the website I don't recognise it. JT [0] http://gcompris.net/-On-one-page- - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk55zNQACgkQyDo4xMNTLiba1gCfe0HVlcsFRcYPZ1YkOK/dAwIN rfgAn0aJHuH3ae0m2fndxJSAoS+A2HPY =XtMo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: [lugmaster] Richard Stallman in Birmingham - 6pm August 25th 2011
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/08/11 15:29, Alan Pope wrote: [snip] >> *Subject:* *[lugmaster] Richard Stallman in Birmingham - 6pm August >> 25th 2011* [snip] >> Richard Stallman will be giving a talk at the University of Birmingham >> this month. Thank you for reminding me - RMS is also at Nottinghack the day before: http://nottinghack.org.uk/?p=873 JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4/+xgACgkQyDo4xMNTLiZDBACdFeVfLOHiYaPsN9sLHOqa060o VYUAoObUUWaH31P1T/DYS4SHe7EiVogD =oh/k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] hard disk problem ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/07/11 19:30, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: > Getting into a root terminal is easy, just alt+F1 then login > (assuming you have set a password for root) You don't need to set a root password. You can just do: me@mycomputer:~$ sudo -s [sudo] password for me: root@mycomputer:~# That works from a Gnome Terminal, or a TTY. JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4WNukACgkQyDo4xMNTLia9uQCgtpB1UTNqaotVURGwqTsOtNI+ UlUAoIsdALfbaIFIDEUJRSrZa3Ww43Na =TP17 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Simple backup script
On 02/06/11 17:28, Chris Rowson wrote: I've been tinkering with backups and backup rotation today and I have come across many wierd and wonderful backup scripts of varying complexity. Is there anything wrong with using something simple like this? (except of course for the lack of validation). Nothing at all wrong with that. I used something very similar as the first step on a set of production servers a few years ago. I've recently discovered Déjà Dup, which is a simple front-end to duplicity(1), which in turn has an impressive range of options. It may or may not be suitable for your purposes. JT -- ---+-------- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Very Off Topic - Apologies in advance.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/04/11 21:52, Sean Miller wrote: [snip!] > Why are we even having this discussion? Because 20 years ago, the idea that billions of people around the world would be connected by a robust, resilient network was unimaginable. 15 years ago, the very thought of people having 5Mbps, always-on connections to their home was ludicrous. 10 years ago, the thought that "ordinary" people might be running a Linux-based operating system on their desktop/laptop computer for day-to-day business was laughable. 5 years ago, the thought of a Linux-powered mobile phone taking massive market share was unimaginable. Some time, somewhere, someone has a spark of an idea. It might seem ridiculous at the time, but things change, and the simple act of sharing the idea and getting other minds thinking about it can be enough to make it happen. JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2oEBIACgkQyDo4xMNTLibEcwCeILnnImIOUm/iTDVWTMtTAx4e XgoAnjde3uDdfPL0Et8UZwypX8yN4olw =yuc9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ANNOUNCE] Team Meeting tonight 9pm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/02/11 12:21, Alan Pope wrote: > We have our regular LoCo Team meeting on IRC at 21:00 GMT tonight. I have Thunderbird pointing at a shared calendar at: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/ubuntu-uk/ical/ I see the OK Computer event next Saturday, but not this evening's meeting. Is the calendar still maintained, do I need to point to a different one for these things, or do I need to kick Thunderbird? Ta, JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1T5l8ACgkQyDo4xMNTLiYoLgCgjNVmC0QjmPUto6A4Y7J/QKZ3 ZW8AoImdHd3delPFuudcNNnPxKzeRrDu =E0qE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Skype Headset
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/01/11 15:38, Ronnie Tucker wrote: > +1 for Plantronics. ... > On 23/01/11 10:41, Alan Pope wrote: >> Plantronics do some good USB ones. I have the 995 model. Another +1 for Plantronics. I tried a cheap one from Tesco at first, and the sound quality was poor both ways. I switched it for a Plantronics USB one (USBAdapter-02 it says underneath) which appears to be a generic CMedia sound card which the headset plugs into using standard 3.5mm jacks, but the sound quality is much better. It was about 20 quid from PC-World, IIRC. My one complaint, and it is a bit of a nitpick actually, is that recently I've been using it a lot (8 hours a day, 5 days a week for about the last two months) and because I wear glasses, the bar that goes around my left ear and around the back of my head pinches my ear a bit. Cheers, JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk08nB4ACgkQyDo4xMNTLiah+gCfZfatZtMsIEbKnBnAoRrNz1iB BMAAn1ruItlj9GbrIsGPmcc+puS7xgNF =1sb5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diaspora
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/11 17:26, Paul Tansom wrote: > I added myself to the waiting list a while back though, so I'll > probably get one eventually. If you haven't already had an invitation, I can send you one. Best reply off-list though. ;) > I looked at the requirements for running a server, but decided I > didn't really want to start messing with Ruby as there's nothing else > on my server that uses it. If it had been Perl (or PHP?!) I might > have taken a closer look. My sentiments exactly. This is kind of what drew me to OneSocialWeb, actually - since it's based on XMPP and I already run ejabberd, I thought the barrier to running my own server would be much lower. Unfortunately, OSW only has an implementation based on the Java-powered OpenFire XMPP server, and I don't currently use Java for anything else on my server either (pretty shocking, considering I've been primarily employed as a Java developer for most of the last 10 years!). I've seen some comments about Diaspora-X, which seems to be Diaspora hacked to use XMPP as a transport. Does anyone here know any more about it? JT - -- - -------+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0i7CsACgkQyDo4xMNTLiaWxACg9NKfwaNFJO4m31r72NfdAmeQ 0hcAoJlM2D3aBxIf+1mIH3Lz6vHqx58E =3QYP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I hope this diaspora stuff really is that ..
I wasn't going to comment, but I think some people have missed the point. These are not "me too" replies intended for a single recipient. Diaspora is a social network and as such it depends upon people "connecting" in order to work. There are clearly a number of people on this list who are interested in connecting with as many of the other list subscribers as possible. The best way of reaching those subscribers and letting them know your details is via the list, since many of us don't have each other's e-mail addresses. It is also in keeping with the purpose of the list - we would like to establish an Ubuntu UK presence on Diaspora, even if only out of curiosity. This is a technical project aimed at like-minded people in a predominantly technical audience. We discuss lots of other kinds of projects on this list and nobody complains. Why should this project be any different? JT Sent from my HTC -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diaspora handles
jamestait same as pretty much everywhere. Sent from my HTC -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diaspora
Go on, I'll bite. I've actually been pinning my hopes on OneSocialWeb, but things there seem to be moving slowly, and in theory they'll eventually become interoperable once the SWAT0 [0] work is completed. JT [0] http://federatedsocialweb.net/wiki/SWAT0 Sent from my HTC -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Support - Where are we in the real world
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/10/10 17:26, Mary Mooney wrote: > Rather than have a long list of people and places, would it not be > better to have a wiki that everyone add their location. I was wondering if it might be possible to do something with wiki.ubuntu.com and the CategoryUKTeamProfile "tag"; pick up the location from people's profile page where they've applied the categroy label, and present it on an OpenLayers/OpenStreetMap slippy map. JT - -- - ---+-------- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAky8EBkACgkQyDo4xMNTLiZScgCgquU34ZRrAg1Fcx8mQsx+IGrn jyIAmwVdL2d2pWL/iWUUMqPP23Ykg0lu =F0Bq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Support - Where are we in the real world
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/10/10 10:20, Barry Titterton wrote: > I live in Belper, Derbyshire, but am inexperienced so need help rather > than give it. Ah, you're just up the A6 from me then. I'm just off the outer ring road of Derby, in Normanton. > There is a LUG in Mansfield, Notts, that meets occasionally at a > member's home, there is also a South Derbyshire LUG that meets once in a > blue moon. Yes, our LUG is rather quiet these days. To be honest, I can't complain - - even when meets have been arranged, I've been pretty poor at actually turning up. JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAky8DmUACgkQyDo4xMNTLiZ4qACgo3Bh9zq2dT4y2xPxbNDfdq9w /vcAmwfSXaYiet/tvF8d6aIjEpjsSRyP =pnbz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: Dv camcorder]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, Sorry it's taken so long for me to respond, but this sounds like the same problem I had. On 25/08/10 09:44, Matthew Daubney wrote: > Once you've done this can you send us the output of "lsmod" (simply type > lsmod in a terminal and hit enter) After the modprobe, I did the following: jt...@sixtymilesmile:~$ lsmod | grep raw1394 raw139425330 0 ieee1394 94771 2 raw1394,ohci1394 > If that driver has loaded, we can then look at the permissions problem > if you still get it on using the camera in kino (or whatever program > you're using) By default, the raw1394 device has very restrictive permissions, because it can conceivably by misused. It gives you complete and unrestricted to the IEEE1394 bus, so exercise extreme caution. Following the modprobe command I get: jt...@sixtymilesmile:~$ ls -l /dev/raw1394 crw-rw 1 root root 171, 0 2010-08-25 22:16 /dev/raw1394 My usual workaround is to add myself to the disk group: jt...@sixtymilesmile:~$ sudo adduser jtait disk Adding user `jtait' to group `disk' ... Adding user jtait to group disk Done. Log out and back in for the new group membership to take effect, then change the ownership of /dev/raw1394: jt...@sixtymilesmile:~$ sudo chown .disk /dev/raw1394 jt...@sixtymilesmile:~$ ls -l /dev/raw1394 crw-rw 1 root disk 171, 0 2010-08-25 22:16 /dev/raw1394 Kino is usually happy with this arrangement. It is possible to set up udev rules to the desired permissions, but to be honest I use the DV camera infrequently enough that it hasn't been worth looking into it. Hope that helps! JT - -- - -------+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx1ik8ACgkQyDo4xMNTLiYn3wCfcaOnA2LvmsdFVxbOdxLgGunN Vt4AoMI8wGalTd6CxhGOIzZU6T/zCIuF =oU5L -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] loco logo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/08/10 23:03, Alan Bell wrote: > oh, convert to path again!, refresh it now and it will be fine. I prefer the K in your logo10, but with "local community team" aligned with the edge of the vignette, as in my 8b. This could turn into a sport - public bike shedding! I could start an office sweepstake and everything! :D JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxXQtsACgkQyDo4xMNTLiYl4QCgntLZS3xJzzWXDFA2EQCTMWtq DwwAoP5dVXWL33YYJ2bBpfvJK4lB3hGc =xfEI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] loco logo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/08/10 21:40, Alan Bell wrote: > http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/uuk/logo10.svg > hmm, not sure that really works. What do you think? Interesting approach. I quite like it, actually, the angle on the vertical bar makes a difference. Here are my two efforts: http://ubuntuone.com/p/BR4/ http://ubuntuone.com/p/BR5/ On the second one I adjusted the kerning on "local community team" to make it fit and also adjusted the positioning of the K a bit. JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxXORgACgkQyDo4xMNTLiYAXQCguXsNhLPuR+ggO9PAWikzSFNH t0IAn1/zjuPTieraqhG516dv44bvUdPg =WPYR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] loco logo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/08/10 21:20, Alan Bell wrote: > bit like this? > http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/uuk/logo8.svg Something there didn't work for me - it came out in what looked like Courier typeface. I'm also not sure about the "your" - if I'm looking at the site from South Africa, Ubuntu-UK isn't my local community team, but it is one of many. > looks like I am going to be out-voted on the lowercase is wrong issue! I'll meet you half-way. I prefer the lower-case U, but think it looks better with the upper-case K tweaked to make it the same size and weight. I'll get my Inkscape hat on and see what I can conjure up. JT - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxXLCIACgkQyDo4xMNTLibieQCg6SwUx1T88576KFLf5kEIBiO9 Ka4AoIV5mJSS4aEGbtix34FLZkEE0o97 =aZAi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for small business
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:05:43 +0100, pmgazz wrote: > Worse, it can be really hard to migrate from Google - I've had people > whose sites have broken because Google changed their architecture and I > realised there was no export tool - we had to hand copy the content > page-by-page - to name but one. The Data Liberation Front [0] exists to try and improve this. > Dropbox (sorry, but UbuntuOne > needs to have x-platform clients) It's coming. [1] JT [0] http://www.dataliberation.org/ [1] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/601218 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Init Script fun
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30/06/10 12:16, Rob Beard wrote: > Yep possibly, it's a little bit frustrating not being able to see the > bootup messages :-) You can see the bootup messages, if you mean what I think you mean. When you first switch on, after the BIOS screen, you should see a message like "GRUB, press ESC for boot menu". Do as it says. The default kernel should be highlighted from the list. Press 'e' to edit the entry. Move the highlight down to the line that starts with "/vmlinuz" and press 'e' again. Then backspace to remove the "quiet splash" keywords on the end. When you've done that, press Enter, then press 'b' to boot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#line-71 JT - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwrsh4ACgkQyDo4xMNTLiYkRQCdEZfaY45qcqFizT9vzsOmwW7k 6TkAnRQNvxzXmLJFeB6UkJmo4Q/NRpml =g/el -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: does any one know of a J2ME GPS system for Mobiles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/06/10 15:43, Cornelius Mostert wrote: > Hi all > > Bought a Phone with GPS (contained Software) but the software expired > and is WAY too expensive, So I was wondering if anyone know of GOOD GPS > software that will run on J2ME that include Voice navigation. It is a > Sony Erricson and does NOT run Android or Windows... > > Thanx > I've been using GPSMid [0] for a while. It's geared towards OpenStreetMap [1] and as such uses OSM data and allows you to edit it on the move. I haven't been keeping up-to-date recently, but the version I'm currently running (0.5.09) isn't really suitable for large areas, but for intra-city travel the navigation is good. Cheers, JT [0] http://gpsmid.sourceforge.net/ [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/ - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwf2zsACgkQyDo4xMNTLiZpXACeP1o3gVeDoGin2tH/4N2kCvGZ IX0An0xjoy7zAcmS+8RU8tItZK6z07vm =zg+g -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/10 00:08, John Stevenson wrote: > On 7 June 2010 23:13, James Tait <mailto:james.t...@wyrddreams.org>> wrote: >> Alan Bell wrote: >> [snip!] >> >> > here https://help.ubuntu.com/ >> > here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu >> > here http://ubuntuforums.org/ >> > I believe I suggested a page on a site where users could find out how to > ask support questions, so which site would you direct a new Ubuntu user > towards ?? Those three would be my usual suggestions, in 1-3-2 order, although I appreciate that doesn't answer the question of how to ask support questions. Why not Ubuntu-UK? If none of the above solved the query then I'd suggest joining the ubuntu-uk mailing list and give the URL to get them started, but as a place to look for an immediate answer, I don't think our website is the right place. JT - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwOw90ACgkQyDo4xMNTLibedgCg++txV3onFWTX67AUEKbZWoS0 b+EAnj1m8nMvVypvia1QmqIzCQxNjWfp =cMOW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Bell wrote: [snip!] > well you will be pleased to know there is such a page! > here http://ubuntu-uk.org/ > here http://www.ubuntu.com/support > here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SupportSolutionsGuidelines > here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SupportTeam > here https://help.ubuntu.com/ > here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu > here http://ubuntuforums.org/ > here http://www.ubuntu.com/support/services > and now here > http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage/overview Am I the only person to look at that list and think "Wow, that must confuse new users"? JT - -- - -- - -------+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Free Software Consultant |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFMDW8MyDo4xMNTLiYRAhQPAJ49ZWZCQzr6kNwKmVi1FpT0h40vYQCg1j3I 7d7vRboCmkfVyKwcmSyGS8o= =lkKU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wow, what an active discussion - brilliant! I'll try and summarise my thoughts in a single, coherent mail. Ade Goodyer is correct in pointing out that we need to establish what we're trying to present before we decide how we're going to present it. However, from a purely aesthetic perspective: Michael H:Mockup #1 is the only one I like. Very slick, but maybe too much space used on the cityscape? A rotating image is a must. Popey/Andrew: Ooh, shiny. Love this one, but shouldn't the navbar be orange for community? [0] Could the white space beside the logo be utilised? Chris Swift: Nice, but needs some content to see how well it works. Also scope for a rotating image here. Of the three, I think Andrew's is my favourite at the moment, the other two are tied. Daubers' comment about the pictures being "of the LoCo doing stuff" sounds like a great idea. Geeknic, OggCamp, Ubuntu Hour, UDS are all good candidates here. As for the question of looking too commercial - I don't see a slick look and feel to a community web site as being a problem. Bear in mind, for a lot of people who aren't familiar with our community and our products, "Free" equates to "Poor quality". We don't want to reinforce that view with an amateurish web site. An entity's web site it its brand and ours should be slick and professional, without feeling impersonal. Cheers, JT [0] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/308 - "The use of Aubergine indicates Commercial involvement of one form or another, while Orange is a signal of community engagement. The Forums will use the Orange elements more strongly, and a formal product brochure, with descriptions of supporting services, would use more of the Aubergine." - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwIOJgACgkQyDo4xMNTLiZslwCgk2S3rx8xrm4XdKLkCaLkKOv2 vEIAn3xKrOsV/SMlS7kJgRRbz/1yeTnZ =8YAn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27/05/10 19:12, Matthew Daubney wrote: [snip!] > That's quite a long list! Here's an interesting side question, what > would help motivate you to improve the way you support people? How do > you think it could be improved? That's a much more difficult question to answer, which is why I neatly side-stepped it! To be honest, I don't know. I can't think of anything that would make me *want* to help more, because I *want* to help anyway - - I'm just restricted by available time between work, family and personal projects. I'm conscious that my contributions are public and open to peer review, which can be a double-edged sword, so I try to make pretty sure that what I'm saying is accurate and correct before I submit it. But I don't think the question of my personal QA is what you're digging at here. At LUG Radio Live 2008, Ben Thorp gave a talk titled Supporting World Domination, where he talked about a system of live support, provided by the community. Chat channels and remote desktops were discussed. Jon Spriggs was involved in the discussion as well. We hashed together a very high-level idea for a technical solution to supporting users, providing a Live Help function or similar which would allow users to "talk" (more accurately, type) to someone knowledgeable to get assistance. I think we came up with a way of making sure that we didn't end up with just any old Tom, Dick or Harry on the other end and we talked about forwarding VNC over XMPP or similar. If we could work out the potential difficulties, that could be a phenomenal resource. Or how about bringing Launchpad Answers to the desktop? An applet that pops up an indicator periodically inviting me to answer a question. I dunno if we could hook it into popcon or something to filter the questions to those related to my more frequently-used applications? Does launchpadlib hook into Answers? Of course, it doesn't have to be a technical solution - LUGs are a great way to get face-to-face help. Sadly, my LUG isn't particularly active though. Has that sparked anything in anyone? JT - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkv/AiYACgkQyDo4xMNTLiZigwCeLi7fMMiKBGfFVNGNzSkEDOcp xHkAnA+rIkANMKnY83+i4zYYUB/aKxg+ =FB2f -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daubers, Matthew Daubney wrote: [snip!] > Secondly, thanks to the people who turned up to my (frankly awful) talk > at Oggcamp on this subject. Next time I have a chance to talk about what > I'm trying to achieve I _should_ be able to do it better! As a result of > that I have some notes I'm slowly going through to gain some ideas of > how to move forward, but this moves me onto point three. Well I was in that talk and I thought you did fine, so thank you. > So really, what drives you to support people? What, in your own opinion, > could be done to help motivate yourself to do better? So many reasons I'm bound to forget as many as I list. * I believe in the software and the people behind it. * I believe in the power of the community - if we each do a little bit we can achieve a lot. * I like sticking it to The Man! * I was that cluebie newless once! * When I first started *really* using Ubuntu a few years ago, Popey was a massive inspiration to me, my hero. As time has gone on, more people have done the same. I hope that I can inspire people and maybe be someone's hero too. * Supporting other users is one way of giving back to a community that has given me so much. * Sometimes that little bit of help makes someone's day. * Sometimes they even thank you! * It's beneficial for me to understand users' problems. * It's beneficial for me to demonstrate that I know the answers to users' problems. * It's beneficial for me to learn from users' problems. * I cannot bear to think of a life where every day I get up, drop the kids at school, go to work, pick the kids up, go back to work, come home, eat, go to bed and start all over again. * Often my day job is so infuriatingly frustrating I like to achieve something with my evening so the day isn't wasted. * I'm a geek. * I enjoy a challenge and don't like to quit. There are *loads* more, but that should get you started. It's not all philanthropic, I do stuff that benefits me too - but the beauty of Free Software is that even when I'm scratching my own itch, I'm usually scratching someone else's itch too. Hope this helps, JT - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkv9q/AACgkQyDo4xMNTLiahTgCg94q1FR3LEcY4LJkvpsjIM96L KkwAn3+G1daKwrGBS65TeIO49nCK/prX =6q4/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Call for help - ISO testing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Pope wrote: [snip!] > Anyone fancy helping out with this? If so just say so here, and we can > work out the details when I get back from UDS. +1 from me. JT - -- - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Free Software Consultant |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFL7H11yDo4xMNTLiYRAkQ+AJ9EduhQDAs26dAxGy+Ccktb6Kqy5gCfbCfJ asyTWmyUbpicxYdxbREpsM4= =HjhJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Relog-in page....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 24/04/10 10:21, Alan Pope wrote: > On 24 April 2010 09:58, Barry Drake wrote: >> Alan Pope wrote: > My mum uses Ubuntu. She is not geeky. :) No, but you'll get her there in time. :-P JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvTex0ACgkQyDo4xMNTLiadaACg+DBU8gQFBpo43T16jyj6KUT4 QSEAoMLRdwlVMZuvikdgYR9l4Ncbry7b =hEnp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] OggCamp 10
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ladies and Gentlemen, I was about to book train tickets for OggCamp, but thought before I did so I'd see if anyone on these lists from the Derby area was going and wanted to car share and split the cost of petrol. I intend to travel to and from the venue on both days (that's my compromise for taking the weekend away from the family), but obviously if you're not then you pay less petrol money. I'd like to book train tickets in the next couple of days if no-one takes me up on the offer, so a quick response would be appreciated. Many thanks, JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkur9IYACgkQyDo4xMNTLia/UgCg1cBhdWaZJ8ihmBVfWFNuEkRc F1sAoId1UGYvd0FGjMNSXzf/DavAlSJt =CEBB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DNS settings resetting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Colin Law wrote: >>> I have looked for clues as to why the DNS settings might be >>> disappearing but have not found anything logged anywhere, suggestions >>> as to where to look for information would be much appreciated. Or any >>> other ideas for that matter. DHCP transactions or normally logged by dhclient in /var/log/syslog. You should be able to grep for dhclient and see what IP address you've been offered and by what server. Also, NetworkManager logs the DHCP information it gets in the same file. > I suppose one possibility is that when the PC asks for the lease to be > renewed the router is not providing the DNS correctly. That seems an > odd sort of fault however. It has only recently started happening. It sounds a bit like you may be getting a lease from a different server on your network. Has anything recently been added to the network that could be acting as a DHCP server? A new computer, router, access point? Cheers, JT - -- - -------+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFLUPljyDo4xMNTLiYRAk/UAKCgSrCRlEMKKGTfnatpo0TPDaIj7QCfWgPu kqBNCi1+iX3OnTGqDFKosIw= =NWGk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Judge bans Microsoft Word sales
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Lord (News) wrote: > I disagree. Making *everything* open source would be pyrrhic panacea. > Competition is good. Competition is what has spurned the FOSS movement > and proprietary vendors alike. Trying to eradicate the proprietary > market is unrealistic and would stifle innovation. But isn't this the cornerstone of Free Software? Because the source code is available to all and may be re-used under compatible licenses, and the Free Software community isn't concerning itself with playing silly patent games, everyone is competing on a level playing field. If one product develops an innovative solution that sets it apart from the rest, it naturally becomes the favoured product -- because it is better, not because users are locked into it. When its competitors catch up and implement that innovation themselves, all are forced to look for something else to set them apart from the pack, and thus the software keeps improving. In addition, if a particular set of developers doesn't like the way one product is going, they are free to fork the project and create their own version. This practice itself often drives innovation for the betterment of both projects. Compiz/Beryl/Compiz Fusion is a good recent example of this. Compiz was forked, and continued to focus on the architecture while its fork, Beryl, focused more on the effects. Both were excellent for different reasons and eventually merged back into Compiz Fusion. I remember hanging out on the Samba mailing lists back when Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton (LKCL for short) forked the code into Samba TNG to develop PDC functionality for Samba, and thinking what an incredible development model this Free Software allowed - in spite of the frequent flame wars! The fact that many Free Software products are also based on open standards only makes it easier for users to switch between competing products and bolsters this cycle of continual improvement. While I agree that there will almost certainly continue to be a mixture of proprietary and Free software, I don't agree that removing proprietary software from the equation would stifle innovation. JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkqHTFIACgkQyDo4xMNTLibDpwCfRtN77+dIE0xbHJ8aqBzkzR/j 6UYAmgOxEdfB1fZGytVZ0ZJD5G3CVmPR =Xf4l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
Michael Iain Douglas wrote: > Mac: slight problem: some of us use windows too. And yes, yes, you can > ext working under Windows, but it's not exactly rock solid. Someone > should get XMarks, and then make it so you can use a server or location > of your choice. > Like this: http://blog.xmarks.com/?p=1035 ? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non ubuntu related question- Keyboard shortcuts for google reader in Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mac wrote: > javadayaz wrote: > >> Sorry i know this is non ubuntu related but didnt know where else to turn to >> for advice! > > Try Google? ;-) In Google Reader, click Help in the upper-right corner. Keyboard shortcuts is the first link in the Recommended articles section on the right for me. See http://is.gd/AfsD JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkoN8R8ACgkQyDo4xMNTLib4hQCfSfcNOZbVNY275KUKumRHZUfT MuEAni1E0u7MhV1anXfC96zwkDfdqmyD =dQkl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu broken, low graphics mode, no sound
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi David, David King wrote: > Currently I cannot get VLC reinstalled, due to dependency errors. Is > there a log file that I can look at that lists all that the system did > when it reinstalled the nvidia drivers and deleted many other programs? You can see an update history by starting Synaptic (System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager) and clicking History under the File menu. Cheers, JT - -- - ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknSnXgACgkQyDo4xMNTLibxBgCgnXnSofWsag0naSHLhBvBWwTx Ap4An0Xk84st8yCyFAfEye3q8HAyu6p0 =uqZ4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rolling back Updates
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: > Quoting Chris Weaver : >> P.S Anyone a member of the London LUG? > > Popey will be, that man gets everywhere... :oP I was stood behind Alan Pope in the queue at our canteen yesterday morning. I'm not sure what surprised me most -- seeing him so far away from the south of the country, or how much his appearance had changed. Popey, were you in disguise? JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ADMIN] Next meeting 11/01/09 @ 19:30 GMT in #ubuntu-uk
Iain Lane wrote: > Erm, whoops. I was under the impression that it was updated > automatically. Please do fix it; I don't know when I'll get the chance > to do it myself! Done, hopefully. I doubt I'll be able to make 19:30, but if things are still ongoing after 20:30 I might be able to drop in. Cheers, JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ADMIN] Next meeting 11/01/09 @ 19:30 GMT in #ubuntu-uk
Hi Iain, Thanks for the notice but the link: Iain Lane wrote: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/MeetingNotes?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=meeting.ical Currently sets up an appointment for November 18th 2007. I don't have time right now to look at correcting it, but if it hasn't been done when I get to checking this evening then I'll try and fix it. Cheers, JT -- ---+-------- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New FreeRunner
Tim Dobson wrote: > I have a freerunner which I bought from www.truebox.co.uk So what are your impressions? I certainly take Popey's point about a phone that "works and works well", but just how much work/grief can one expect with the Freerunner? The two biggest drawbacks for me are the lack of a built-in camera and the massive start-up time, though I have to admit I don't expect to have to cold boot it that often. I've read numerous reviews, tech articles and so on and I'm still not really sure how close to "end-user ready" it is -- I've read some somewhat worrying stuff. JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] New FreeRunner
Hi all, Need to be straight to the point, battery running low. Someone (Popey?) mentioned something several months ago about a group of people getting New FreeRunners and a discount being available. I'm looking to jump on that bandwagon -- can anyone remind me of details and whether the initiative is still alive? Cheers, JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone from Derby on the list?
John Levin wrote: > Thought we met on the Saturday? > > Actually you may be right. You were on the stand, right? I came along and offered to help out. I think I offered food. :) > Yup, her. That's the South Derbyshire Lug, right? That's us. Funnily enough I was just saying to Darren, the guy I was at LRL with, that our LUG was pretty quiet and didn't get up to much. I think it's a good reflection on the event that it seems to inspire people. > The Linux Demo day will be held in around 4-5 weeks time; I'm trying to > arrange getting cds up there. I'll try and get involved, although I have to balance my enthusiasm with my weekend family duties of course. It would be good to build upon the momentum that getting us all together seems to have generated. JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone from Derby on the list?
John Levin wrote: > Back from cd distribution duties at Lug Radio. Shame, I missed you. > Met someone who is interested in doing a Linux install fest in Derby. > > Anyone on this list from there? I am. I assume you're referring to Clare/Jellybeanz? If so I'll pick it up on the LUG mailing list. JT -- ---+-------- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] LugRadio Live
Ladies and Gents, It looks like I'll be attending my first LRL this year. I notice there's a wiki page about it with a couple of names on, and that we're mentioned as exhibitors on the LRL blog, but thus far there is no schedule and no indication of what we intend to be doing there. Anyone got any plans? What normally goes on? Cheers, JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How do I know when to reboot after upgrading Ubuntu Server?
>> After I have performed apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade on the >> server, how do I know whether or not I need to reboot please? I believe you can check for the presence of /var/run/reboot-required. It will be there after kernel upgrades, for example. Cheers, JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Accounting software ?
Hi Joshua, Joshua Scotton wrote: > I'm sorry to say that GNUCash is nowhere near an alternative to Sage. > It is a very good program and can be used for personal or sole trader > accounts, but it hasn't been any good for my needs when preparing UK > Limited Company Accounts. > As I haven't found anything else suitable for accounts on linux I'm > still having to dual boot my computer into Sage every time I need to > work on the accounts :( Have you looked at LedgerSMB[1] at all? I have to admit that the whole business of accounting is something of a black art to me, so I wouldn't know a good accounting package if it slapped me in the face with a purchase ledger, but many years ago I started a project to create just such a package to help my wife keep track of her business accounts in the hope that there would be other people who knew more about accounting and wanted to scratch that itch. That didn't really work out for me, but LedgerSMB (and the project it forked from, SQL-Ledger [2]) looks to have developed into the project I'd hoped to create. HTH, JT [1] http://www.ledgersmb.org/ [2] http://www.sql-ledger.com/ -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Put your questions to Bill Gates
Andy wrote: > or "Why do you not want to compete on a level playing field with > products such as Open Office, Linux and Mac? Is it because your > products aren't good enough?" Maybe something along the lines of "Why are Microsoft so keen to get Office Open XML rushed through as a standard rather than collaborating to improve the existing Open Document Format standard?" -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Seasonal Song
Farran wrote: > On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 17:45 +, Sean Miller wrote: >> Fairy Tale of New York would be fun... >> >> "It was Christmas Eve babe, in the drunk tank, an old man said to me >> won't see another one >> And then he sang a song, 'The Rare old Mountain Dew', I turned my >> face away and dreamed about you.. bunt... u..." ;-) >> >> "And the boys of the NYPD choir were singing out their best, as the >> drunks just finished up their install fest" >> >> Sean > > very good... '', > how about "...and dreamed ubuntu..."? Flows better that way. :) I did consider Fairy Tale of New York and would love to do it, but I think we're looking for something more specific to New Year, and I suspect it would be too long for this purpose (there's a challenge for you!). Auld Lang Syne (my recording) came in at 30 seconds, FToNY would be a good couple of minutes. :) Having said all of that, I've failed to come up with anything at all. JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Seasonal Song
Hello ladies and gentlemen, Some of you may be aware of Melissa Draper's effort last year to get members of the Ubuntu community to contribute their vocal talents to a rendition of Auld Lang Syne. I've mailed Melissa to see if she has plans to do the same this year and she has indicated that she would like to, but with a different song. The problem she's facing is deciding upon a non-denominational seasonal song. I'd like to ask you all for suggestions, which I'm hoping will also provoke some interest and more contributions -- I think we only managed about four people last year! The basic deal was that Melissa pointed us at a backing track, we recorded ourselves singing along and then sent the OGG to her to mix. All things considered it actually came out sounding half decent and was a good laugh if nothing else. :) Cheers, JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] wifi mini-survey
Mac wrote: > Do you use Ubuntu on a laptop + wifi? Yes, Gutsy on an Acer Ferrari 4005 WLMi using the standard Broadcom-based wifi with the bcm43xx driver and firmware extracted using bcm43xx-fwcutter and NetworkManager. > And, if you do, do you use > > no encryption / WEP / WPA / WPA2 WPA2 PSK. > with ESSID broadcast / hidden? Broadcast. Cheers, JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Cisco VPN Client
> Well having tried it and installing it finally, I was an idiot. I > couldn't get any info from college website about the .pcf file I > needed, so while waiting I decided to uninstall and try the newer > versions that the support guys posted...and now nothing will install > whatsoever, even with the patch applied. I think I give up on it. > > I'm now installing vpnc and will see if the support guys will be nice > enough to help me configure it... I'm not sure if you're saying you couldn't get hold of the PCF file, or you weren't sure what information you needed from it... but if the latter, the network-manager-vpnc GUI allows you to import a PCF file, and vpnc itself comes with a script in /usr/share/vpnc/pcf2vpnc to convert a PCF file to a vpnc configuration file. Hope that helps, JT -- -------+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Cisco VPN Client
Josh Blacker wrote:
> College provide 3 different versions of the vpn client for linux: two
> 4.6. and 4.8.. I've tried the two highest versions, but when
> running the install script for each it gets past a copyright warning
> and then hits a problem: vpnclient: 47: "(" unexpected or something
> like that (am in Windows now, obviously and unfortunately, so can't
> remember exactly!).
You could always try vpnc. I used to use it daily with a Cisco VPN
concentrator (sorry, don't know what model). You'll need to enable the
Universe repository to get it, but it also integrates well into
NetworkManager (if you use that) via, funnily enough, network-manager-vpnc.
Cheers,
JT
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] apt-get vs. aptitude
Mark Harrison wrote: > I'm interested to know which others on the uk-ubuntu list are using (and > why)? I've been using aptitude for a while now. I seem to remember reading somewhere (Debian Sarge upgrade notes?) that it's recommended over apt-get now because of its improved dependency handling. The interactive version is also very useful. That said, I don't think it has an equivalent to apt-get source, so in that instance I still use apt-get. JT -- ---+-------- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
fits that Free software, and Ubuntu in particular, offers to people. Free, open discussions, bouncing ideas back and forth, comments and suggestions have led to some very professional looking results in a short period of time. Yes, it makes me feel good and yes, I will be sticking with it. Cheers, JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Can I disable the power button?
Dave Walker wrote: > On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 14:28 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > You can confirm that this setting does not exist? > http://daviey.mooo.com/powersettings.jpg The drop-down is there for me, but I only have options to "Ask me", "Suspend", "Hibernate" or "Shutdown". JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
Andy wrote: > On 12/06/07, James Tait <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Having asked a few people to ask me about Ubuntu, I got the following >> questions to add to the (already pretty long) list already raised in the >> thread: > > I shall attempt to answer some of them ;) Perhaps I should have included the responses I sent, all of which should be corrected where necessary and may be used freely in such a leaflet, if and when it comes into being. >> > What does the word Ubuntu mean? > >>From the FAQ (http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/faq) > Ubuntu is an African word, which has been described as "too beautiful > to translate into English". The essence of Ubuntu is that "a person is > a person through other people". It describes humanity as > "being-with-others" and prescribes what "being-with-others" should be > all about. Ubuntu emphasises sharing, consensus, and togetherness. > It's a perfect concept for Free Software and open source. Here's a > great article that describes Ubuntu, which may help define it. > Wikipedia also has a good definition. It is an ancient African word which has no direct English translation, but roughly means "Humanity to others", or "I am who I am because of who we all are". It engenders the qualities of community and togetherness which make the project possible. >> > What support would I get if I needed help? > > You can get commercial support (which you have to pay for) or free > support from the community. If you bought your PC with Linux > pre-installed your vendor may be able to help you. > > We have extensive online documentation. > We have a malling list to ask questions on (you email your question > and it gets sent to a huge number of people who will try to help) > We have an IRC chat channel (like a big chatroom) > We have a forum > We also have a "support ticket" style system. > > The chances are somebody will know how to fix your problem. Lots! Starting on the desktop, there is a built-in help browser that gives you access to help on every aspect of the Ubuntu desktop in several languages. Then there is the official Ubuntu documentation site (https://help.ubuntu.com/) which contains some more in-depth information. Then there is the Ubuntu Community, which as an Ubuntu user you would already be a part of. The Ubuntu Community range from the users to developers, packagers and other contributors, including volunteers and commercial organisations. Ubuntu has Local Community (LoCo) teams which all have an IRC channel for real-time discussion as well as mailing lists. They also help to maintain the Ubuntu Forums (http://www.ubuntuforums.org) where you can often find other people who have experienced, and solved, your problem and the Ubuntu Users' mailing list (http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users). There is also Launchpad (https://launchpad.net/) where you can ask questions, and report and trace bugs. If an application on your Ubuntu desktop crashes, a crash report will normally be submitted to Launchpad so that the developers can see what went wrong and fix it. Finally there is commercial support -- people and companies who can help you with your Ubuntu-related problems for a price. The Ubuntu Marketplace (http://www.ubuntu.com/support/commercial/marketplace) is a good source of information for these companies. >> > Does it have a GUI similar to Windows or do I need to learn code? > > Depends on what you mean by "similar". It has a point and click > graphical interface. > > It does have a very powerful command line interface but it's there for > the people who want to use it, you won't really need to use it if you > don't want to. > > You don't need to be able to "code" or "program". The Ubuntu desktop is very similar to the Windows one. It has the now-standard WIMP (Windows, Icons, Mouse and Pointer) interface and the vast majority of what you will need to do is possible using this interface. Many of the free applications available for Ubuntu (e.g. OpenOffice, Mozilla Firefox, Mozilla Thunderbird, GIMP) are also available for Windows, so you can try them out even without trying Ubuntu! There are some, usually more in-depth, tasks for which the command line is required, as is the case with Windows. The command line is a very powerful tool and is not to be feared! >> > How secure is it? > > It has a better security model than Windows. Fine grained access > control and limiting what users can do "by mistake" make it more > difficult for a virus to take over your entire system. > > Also the software update system adds some more protection as it will > update all the core software together. Y
[ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
Hi all, I've been a bit quiet of late, but I have been lurking. One of the topics that caught my eye on the UK list was Popey's suggestion about leaflets [0]. There was a lot of discussion on the topic, then it just seemed to fizzle out. I'd like to resurrect the topic. I'm batting about some ideas at the moment for raising awareness of the Ubuntu name, so "normal" people (you know, Linux for Human Beings and all that?) can start to absorb it into their subconscious and eventually start to ask "So what is this Ubuntu thing anyway?" I've put a couple of the stickers I got with my ShipIt CDs at eye level in the local park, for example. (There's also a graffiti wall there that I think would look great with the Ubuntu logo splashed all over it, but I'm not sure that sends out the right message!) I intend to put a couple of post cards in the local supermarkets as well with specific messages targeting different audiences -- students, those people who copied Windows from a mate, those whose machines always seem to be virus-ridden, and so on. I think it would be a good idea to involved the Marketing Team on this (I'm not sure what the current status is with the DIY Marketing effort) to get their input and possibly re-use some of their existing work. Having asked a few people to ask me about Ubuntu, I got the following questions to add to the (already pretty long) list already raised in the thread: > What does the word Ubuntu mean? > What support would I get if I needed help? > Does it have a GUI similar to Windows or do I need to learn code? > How secure is it? > Is Linux a passing fad? Cheers, JT [0] http://www.nabble.com/forum/ViewPost.jtp?post=10284127&framed=y -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sound recording
Robin Hall wrote: > Many thanks for your prompt response. I did what you suggest and got a > long script but I simply don't know enough to understand what it > represents. This is the information we need to be able to help out. > I also dont know enough to know how to respond to your > request to "give us a link to the pastebin produced" If you go to http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/ in your web browser, paste the output from above into the large text area and enter your name and how long you would like that information to remain available, then click "Send", you should get a new URL back. Send that URL to the list and we'll be able to see the details you pasted in there. HTH, JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
Jim Kissel wrote: > Please educate me as to what software NTL/cable broadband supplies that > is Windows only. While I will agree, you need to be a little bit more > independent/knowledgeable, I cannot envisage needing and ISP supplied > software. I'm not sure what the current situation is, but when I signed up to NTL:Home broadband a few years ago I almost had my connection cancelled when I phoned to tell the support people not to send an engineer expecting to find a Windows PC or a Mac. Since my broadband connection was via the cable modem in the set-top box, all the engineer would have done was fit an ethernet cable from the back of the set-top box to my PC and inserted the "Gearbox Connection Kit" CD, then followed the prompts. When I switched to NTL Business broadband, I got taken off the cable modem in the set-top box and given a standalone cable modem, but the method was exactly the same -- stick the CD in and follow the prompts. As it happened, the CD was duff anyway. In actual fact, at least if you're connecting via ethernet rather than USB, the CD is completely unnecessary and in my experience installs more flaky, unstable crap on your computer than leaving it on the 'net overnight with no firewall. I've documented the required process for both on LiveJournal (I can find links if anyone's interested), but it boils down to this: when you first connect your computer to the cable modem, you should get a private IP address via DHCP. You need to register your MAC address (along with your account number and PIN I think), which is done via a web interface. Then you'll be told to reboot your computer, after which you get a public IP address via DHCP. I offered NTL permission, via the feedback form, to use the process I'd outlined on their help site or documentation pack, but I got no response. So yes, they do supply Windows software and yes you probably do need to be a little more knowledgeable, but it's not such a complex process that the engineers themselves couldn't learn it and it would probably take less time and be less invasive on people's PCs. My tuppence worth. JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
Alan Pope wrote: > Should this be done by the marketing team and not us? I'd say it might be beneficial to us if they were involved, even just to avoid duplication of effort. > What leaflets (at a high level) would you like to see? "What is Ubuntu?" > "What is Linux?" "Can I run my Windows software?" kind of flyers immediately > spring to mind. Although I'm not a marketing type myself, I'd echo some of Mark Harrison's comments here. Before we get into trying to answer questions, we need to know what questions to answer. And not many non-techies are going to ask us questions because they don't even know we exist, let alone who we are or what we do. The first part of our job, I think, is to address that -- get some visibility amongst the "normal" public so they can come and ask us questions. I've been sketching down some ideas for a little display at my son's nursery. I think it might be a good place to have such a display because it's in an area where the cost of a new, high-spec PC with Windows and Office is likely to be a massive barrier. I was thinking of something along the lines of an FAQ leaflet as you have described, but would need something arresting to make people stop and look at the display to pick up a leaflet. Mark's example with the sound bite and tag line looks ideal and the marketing tips like the embedded command are useful. Also, I've already touched on the idea of trying to appeal to the non-techie audience when I addressed the list about an awareness-raising campaign in the past. With that all said, questions I think we could address initially include the obvious and you've already listed some of them: - What is Ubuntu? - What is Linux? - I understand free, but what is Open Source? - Will it work on my computer? - Can I run my Windows software? - Can I run my games? - How do I get it? - Will my hardware work with it? These are some of the questions I've been asked by various people not in the know -- my family, friends and neighbours. I don't mind asking them what they would like to know about Ubuntu to give us something to go on. Overall I think it's a great idea and an excellent way of getting more exposure outside the techie audience and I'm more than willing to contribute where I can. Cheers, JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox and BBC video clips
Stephen Garton wrote: > IIRC, uninstalling totem-mozilla removes ubuntu-desktop, which I > always understood to be a bad thing when doing things like (for > example right now) testing Feisty, as ubuntu-desktop will pull in new > stuff etc etc. It seems, in Feisty at least, that totem-mozilla is required by gnome, but not ubuntu-desktop, which only recommends totem-mozilla. One can uninstall gnome, which will auto-deselect its dependencies, then manually select all those dependencies except for totem-mozilla. JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 64bit Ubuntu
TheVeech wrote: > Anyone know the state of this these days? I tried to install it on a > machine a while back and the PC just wouldn't have it. I've been running it on my laptop since Breezy. I'm currently running Feisty beta. There are some issues with non-free software, such as Flash plug-in and Skype, not being available in 64-bit versions, but you can run the 32-bit versions if you have the appropriate 32-bit libraries installed and/or (as I have) set up a 32-bit chroot. Also, I may be wrong but I think there are a few packages that aren't available in the AMD64 version. Hope that helps, JT -- ---+-------- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What manufacturer wireless access point to buy?
Dave Walker wrote: > Also, if you want to - you can even load custom firmware onto it. One > good one is, http://www.dd-wrt.com . This is very easy to do, and will > even allow you to 'ssh' in. It will basically be a headless linux box. Maybe not such a good choice: http://xwrt.blogspot.com/2007/02/dd-wrt-continues-to-exploit-free-open.html JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] bug report
London School of Puppetry wrote: > I was updating my Ubuntu- and left it running and came back to find > that there was a bug report, and I had to forward it. Where do I send > it? Can anyone help? I don't have an instance of the window open to verify this, but if I remember correctly you should have two options -- "Send Report" and "Cancel". If you click the former, a web page should open in your web browser of choice with, I think, a list of bugs filed in Launchpad against the application that crashed. If none of the bug reports matches your own symptoms, you should file a new bug in Launchpad. The crash report window should also be replaced with a new window offering you the option to send the full report or an abbreviated one, with a pointer to the file containing the crash data (under /var/crash) and an option to view the contents of the file. Whether you file a new bug report or append to an existing one, if you're able you should attach the crash report from /var/crash/... to the bug report to help the developers understand what went wrong and hopefully help prevent it from happening in the future. JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Awareness-Raising Campaign Idea (was Ubuntu CNR deal)
Hi All, I think from the discussion it can be said that there is some interest in this. Lots of very good points have been highlighted and there's clearly scope for a lot more discussion. So my question now becomes, how do we go about developing this idea? I've taken a quick look at some of the Marketing Team's pages on the wiki and I don't see anything along these lines. Are the Marketing Team the best people to speak to? Who here would be interested in getting involved in such a project? Who has the facilities to be able to contribute? Should this even be a UK-centric project? Thoughts and comments are, as ever, welcomed. JT -- ---+---- James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Awareness-Raising Campaign Idea (was Ubuntu CNR deal)
Robin Menneer wrote: > You also need to carefully define your target eg the huge population of > semi-bored computer-illiterates might be more productive than > experienced-with-windows men-in-the-street ? You may very well be right. I think especially with people who are not already seasoned/regular computer users and are just deciding to venture in to this brave new world and buy a PC at home for the first time, one very important question they will ask is "What do you use?", shortly followed by "Why?". I think this type of campaign would be particularly effective for these people. That's not to say that I don't think it has a potential audience among the Windows-faithful. I still believe that Vista is an opportunity for Ubuntu to come to the fore, with people who would normally have said "I'm buying a PC, therefore I'll get/need a copy of Windows" now pausing for a moment to consider the alternatives. Again, such a campaign would, I think, prove effective. I do have regular Windows users asking me about Linux and I'm more than happy to tell them what it is and why I use it. It hasn't yet resulted in any full-blown conversions, but the message is beginning to get across. > And once they get the > message, they will tell their grandchildren. Indeed. Up until now, conventional wisdom has suggested that having a PC means running Windows. With more visibility to those not already acquainted with FLOSS and more positive association, I think we will see a snowball effect. JT -- -------+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Awareness-Raising Campaign Idea (was Ubuntu CNR deal)
Hi all, > We have to ask ourselves why we use Linux over other OS's and > why ubuntu over other distro's. I think you will find many different > answers. I don't mean to hijack this thread, but this has hit upon something that's been bubbling up in my brain and I think it's appropriate to share it with the rest of the list. I have a vision of an awareness-raising advertising campaign based around why we choose to use FLOSS and possibly why we chose Ubuntu in particular. You know how sometimes someone will ask you why you do something, you give a long-winded explanation, qualify it with an example... then sum it up with something like "It's a bloke thing."? I thought something like that would make for a catchy tag line and I came up with a few: "It's a standards thing." "It's an openness thing." "It's a freedom thing." "It's a security thing." "It's a stability thing." "It's a community thing." I think the latter is especially relevant to Ubuntu. I've had a think about the content of some of them too. The biggest problem I have is actually making them happen -- I can't draw for toffee, so I doubt I'd be able to storyboard them very well. I might be able to explain the ideas to someone who could though. What do people think about this kind of campaign? They could take the form of short TV clips, possibly comic strips. We could have other campaign-related material like bumper stickers and leaflets with the tag lines on. I'd be more than happy to discuss my ideas if people are willing to help develop them. Cheers, JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Aptitude dependency hell
Hi Tony, Tony Arnold wrote: > The packages it said were broken almost all of the installed ones! > > Something very wrong here or I'm missing something. > > Looks to me like I need to re-install. You can, if you wish, run aptitude interactively: $ sudo aptitude This will allow you to find the broken packages (press 'B' to move to the next broken package), view their dependencies (hit 'Enter' to view the package details and dependencies are listed there) and progressively fix the broken dependencies. When there are no longer any broken packages, press 'G' to apply any changes and you'll be given a confirmation screen, where you should press 'G' again to continue, or 'Q' to step back. '?' will give you a help menu listing the various keyboard commands. I've had to do this a couple of times after upgrades that I messed up and it's effective, although whether it's better than just re-installing is debatable. You don't lose your custom configuration and don't risk nuking your precious data, but it can be time consuming. JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | Mobile: +44 (0)7779 337596 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] EDM179: Response From Alan Johnson, Secretary of State for Education and Skills
Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: > I wouldn't be overly suprised that you're getting some kind of canned > response to your initial contact. Without doubt. Several members have had the same response now. > Take this "standard reply" as an invitation to take the conversation > further. Reiterate any points in your original contact that have not > been answered (and politely highlight that they were not) and add any > further questions that come from what you did get. Exactly what I intend to do. Now the channels have been opened, I intend to use them. > This should - hopefully - lead to an individual reply (of whatever > quality). Perhaps more importantly it will mean the argument (and you, > us, etc.) appears intelligent. Even if we can't have immediate effect > we shouldn't underestimate the value of good PR! > > Perhaps post the list for some collab drafting? There is an item on the next UK Team meeting agenda to discuss this very topic. I want to ensure we present a unified argument and come across as an organised, coherent group, not just a bunch of idealistic hippies with no co-ordination. That said, if anyone who is not able to make the meeting (#ubuntu-uk on irc.freenode.net, Tuesday 9th January at 21:30) would like to offer their thoughts to the list, please do. JT -- -------+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | Mobile: +44 (0)7779 337596 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
