[ubuntu-uk] broadband problem
Where I live it is only possible to get BB speeds of between 1.0 mbps and 1.5 mbps so I am testing wireless broadband (TFL). There a number of machines using the BB supply but not all at the same time. On my work surface there are two working routers one connected to the wireless supply and the other to normal wired supply. Here are some BB speed results:- PC running Ubuntu 11.04 with wireless supply speed = 8.5 mbps PC running Xubuntu 12.04 no discernible BB signal above PC with ordinary wired supply 1.3 mbps above PC running Windows XP Pro wireless supply speed 8.5 mbps Can anyone please explain why the machine running Xubuntu does not respond to the BB supplied via wireless. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] broadband problem
I forget to mention that the connection from the routers to the PCs was by wireless. To add another bit of information the PC running Xubuntu was tried with a wired connection to the router and the BB speed was 8.2 mbps. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] broadband problem
On 15 May 2012 15:34, Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote: I forget to mention that the connection from the routers to the PCs was by wireless. To add another bit of information the PC running Xubuntu was tried with a wired connection to the router and the BB speed was 8.2 mbps. Norman Is it an entirely different installation? It might be worth checking to see if you are required to install any drivers or firmware for your wireless device prior to using it. -- Kris Douglas. www.krisd.eu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] broadband problem
On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 15:38 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote: On 15 May 2012 15:34, Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote: I forget to mention that the connection from the routers to the PCs was by wireless. To add another bit of information the PC running Xubuntu was tried with a wired connection to the router and the BB speed was 8.2 mbps. Norman Is it an entirely different installation? It might be worth checking to see if you are required to install any drivers or firmware for your wireless device prior to using it. -- Kris Douglas. www.krisd.eu Kris - What do you mean by wireless device? If you are referring to the router connected to the wireless BB the answer is no. If you are referring to the dual booted PC, which is a new machine, the wireless BB just works on the ancient Windows XP Pro so surely should just work on the latest edition of Xubuntu. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] broadband problem
On 15 May 2012 17:22, Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote: I forget to mention that the connection from the routers to the PCs was by wireless. To add another bit of information the PC running Xubuntu was tried with a wired connection to the router and the BB speed was 8.2 mbps. Kris - What do you mean by wireless device? If you are referring to the router connected to the wireless BB the answer is no. If you are referring to the dual booted PC, which is a new machine, the wireless BB just works on the ancient Windows XP Pro so surely should just work on the latest edition of Xubuntu. As you mention, you say you are connecting to the broadband from the Xubuntu machine with a WiFi adapter, when you use a cable it works, with the WiFi adapter it doesn't. The assumption I am making is that it could be something to do with the wireless adapter (USB dongle or PCI card or integrated unit). It may well be installed fine in Windows X Ubuntu, but not on Xubuntu. -- Kris Douglas. www.krisd.eu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] broadband problem
On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 17:45 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote: On 15 May 2012 17:22, Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote: I forget to mention that the connection from the routers to the PCs was by wireless. To add another bit of information the PC running Xubuntu was tried with a wired connection to the router and the BB speed was 8.2 mbps. Kris - What do you mean by wireless device? If you are referring to the router connected to the wireless BB the answer is no. If you are referring to the dual booted PC, which is a new machine, the wireless BB just works on the ancient Windows XP Pro so surely should just work on the latest edition of Xubuntu. As you mention, you say you are connecting to the broadband from the Xubuntu machine with a WiFi adapter, when you use a cable it works, with the WiFi adapter it doesn't. The assumption I am making is that it could be something to do with the wireless adapter (USB dongle or PCI card or integrated unit). It may well be installed fine in Windows X Ubuntu, but not on Xubuntu. -- Kris Douglas. www.krisd.eu I believe you are on the right track as long as we just confine ourselves to XP Pro and Xubuntu. (The Ubuntu example is a bit of a red herring). So, I have a situation where the latest version of Xubuntu does not have the necessary driver whereas old XP Pro does. What is my next step, please, to remedy the situation? Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] broadband problem
On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 17:45 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote: On 15 May 2012 17:22, Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote: I forget to mention that the connection from the routers to the PCs was by wireless. To add another bit of information the PC running Xubuntu was tried with a wired connection to the router and the BB speed was 8.2 mbps. I am sorry to be a nuisance but I had a search through the various bits and pieces that came with the new computer and found a CD labelled Edimax which is the name of the wireless card. On opening up the CD I came across a file labelled 'Driver for Linux OS' The driver is labelled 2010_07_16_RT3062_Linux_STA_v[2].4.0.0.tar.bz2 Would some kind person instruct me, please, on what I need to do to install this driver so that I may see if it solves my problem. Thanks Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] broadband problem
On 15/05/12 20:56, Norman Silverstone wrote: I am sorry to be a nuisance but I had a search through the various bits and pieces that came with the new computer and found a CD labelled Edimax which is the name of the wireless card. On opening up the CD I came across a file labelled 'Driver for Linux OS' The driver is labelled 2010_07_16_RT3062_Linux_STA_v[2].4.0.0.tar.bz2 Would some kind person instruct me, please, on what I need to do to install this driver so that I may see if it solves my problem. I would suggest downloading more recent drivers. Apparently /RT3062/ works with your model (assuming it is Ralink). http://www.ralinktech.com/en/04_support/support.php?sn=501 Extract the tgz and read the README_STA file. This might also help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1713808 Gibbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband usage meter
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 21:49 +, Avi Greenbury wrote: The situation my dad ended up with is to rely on BT's warning email at 80% of usage, and bear the cap in mind during the month. If you have an online account with BT they now have a Broadband usage monitor - I think its updated daily. You can find it in the Broadband section of the online servicing website. -- James Page Software Engineer, Ubuntu Server Team signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband usage meter
On 07/12/2010 08:15, James Page wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 21:49 +, Avi Greenbury wrote: The situation my dad ended up with is to rely on BT's warning email at 80% of usage, and bear the cap in mind during the month. If you have an online account with BT they now have a Broadband usage monitor - I think its updated daily. You can find it in the Broadband section of the online servicing website. Yes they do. I'm using a meter on my Windows machine in order to monitor what sort of activity uses the most bandwidth and wanted to compare usage on my Linux machine. ( you'd be amazed at how much bandwidth is used by online forums for example...) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband usage meter
On 7 December 2010 08:48, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/12/2010 08:15, James Page wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 21:49 +, Avi Greenbury wrote: The situation my dad ended up with is to rely on BT's warning email at 80% of usage, and bear the cap in mind during the month. If you have an online account with BT they now have a Broadband usage monitor - I think its updated daily. You can find it in the Broadband section of the online servicing website. Yes they do. I'm using a meter on my Windows machine in order to monitor what sort of activity uses the most bandwidth and wanted to compare usage on my Linux machine. ( you'd be amazed at how much bandwidth is used by online forums for example...) I use vnstat http://humdi.net/vnstat/ which is a simple command line network stats. there are also some graphical frontends too http://sourceforge.net/projects/vnstatsvg/ http://www.sqweek.com/sqweek/index.php?p=1 hope this helps azmodie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Broadband usage meter
Any recommendations for a Broadband Usage meter? (I'm on BT and capped at 10GB per month...) Cheers -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband usage meter
On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:46:57 + Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: Any recommendations for a Broadband Usage meter? (I'm on BT and capped at 10GB per month...) Cheers Having briefly looked into this, I couldn't find any sensible way of extracting that information out of the HomeHub. My brother did knock up something sort-of reliable that screen scraped the bandwidth usage from its web UI, we didn't even get far enough to store the numbers well enough to survive router reboots. If you've only a single machine, something like Munin will happily graph its bandwidth usage, and can be configured into adding them up for all connected hosts. But then every WiFi host needs munin installed. The situation my dad ended up with is to rely on BT's warning email at 80% of usage, and bear the cap in mind during the month. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
The no LLU requirement seriously limits your chances of getting 24mbps. A BT Exchange is a BT Exchange. Doesn't matter who your ISP is, you're still physically connected to the same wire and the same equipment at the exchange. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
On Sun, 2009-06-07 at 16:52 +0100, William Anderson wrote: John Levin wrote: Hi, I'm looking for reccomendations for broadband suppliers and hosting. First off, I'm getting rid of Entanet (via UKFSN) as they've seen fit to more than double their charges! (Getting ready for long phone session to customer services today) Don't have cable, so looking for a geek-friendly adsl service. Be - http://www.bethere.co.uk/ Web Tapestry - http://www.webtapestry.net/ Secondly, I'm looking for a second hosting service. I use evohosting http://www.evohosting.co.uk/ and am very happy with them, but in case of failure want to have (and to be able to reccomend to others) a secondary web/email system. Plus I'd like ubuntu-based servers, just for fun. Any suggestions? Bitfolk - http://www.bitfolk.com/ Bytemark - http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ -n http://www.intermip.net/ Is owned by local lug members. The service currently hosts wolveslug and I can't fault it. -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
After examining the ADSL24 site more closely, I will pass on switching to them as they appear to be just another Entanet reseller. Anyone else got any good suggestions for a good broadband ISP that offers up to 24 Mbit/s, no LLU, not Entanet, TalkTalk-related or Virgin? David King David King wrote: I also use UKFSN for my broadband ISP, and lately the service has been rubbish. I am getting much slower speeds, sometimes down to less than 1 Mbit/s. And the technical support is currently non-existent. I think it is a one-man show, who means well, wanting to support free open source software, but he obviously does not have the manpower to deal with queries and EntaNet are badly letting down the customers, for which UKFSN is a reseller. I have always heard many bad things about Tiscali, Pipex, and TalkTalk. Now they are all part of the same ISP, I will avoid them like the plague. I also hear that Virgin is very bad too, although if you can get cable and it works, and you do not have to deal with their helplines, it might be okay, but after many bad experiences with NTL in the past I will never go with them again, even though they are now rebranded as Virgin Media. I had a look at the http://adsl24.co.uk website, and according to that, I can get up to 24 Mbit/s where I live. Although their site suggests I would only get 3.2 Mbit/s, which is rather poor, considering I am only 2 km from the exchange. Maybe the routing of the BT cables is so not straight that it is a lot more than 2 km along the wires? I measured the distance on Google Earth, it was less than 2 km in a straight line, so about 2 km along the main roads. Elsewhere I read that at 2 km I should get 15 Mbit/s. I was considering BE but I do not like 12-month contracts, and their site does not give any details that I could find about cancelling. But they do allow for unlimited bandwidth, which is helpful when downloading updates to Ubuntu or various distro ISO files to try out, as well as the various free movies on http://www.archive.org/details/movies or free music from http://freealbums.blogsome.com/ ADSL24 have more limited bandwidth, the same as UKFSN currently offers (£18.90 for 30 GB peak, unlimited at weekends and 00:00-08:00). As for hosting, I use 11 Internet Ltd. http://www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=3899401 They have been very good for hosting overall, and I can have as many domain names there as I like (all paid for of course), so it's good for hosting multiple sites in one hosting space. I once had a problem with using FTP, they password they supplied contained a / character, and the FTP worked fine in Windows, but when I switched to using Linux it would not work, until I changed the password to something without any unusual characters in. David King John Levin wrote: Hi, I'm looking for reccomendations for broadband suppliers and hosting. First off, I'm getting rid of Entanet (via UKFSN) as they've seen fit to more than double their charges! (Getting ready for long phone session to customer services today) Don't have cable, so looking for a geek-friendly adsl service. Secondly, I'm looking for a second hosting service. I use evohosting http://www.evohosting.co.uk/ and am very happy with them, but in case of failure want to have (and to be able to reccomend to others) a secondary web/email system. Plus I'd like ubuntu-based servers, just for fun. Any suggestions? TIA John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
David King wrote: After examining the ADSL24 site more closely, I will pass on switching to them as they appear to be just another Entanet reseller. Anyone else got any good suggestions for a good broadband ISP that offers up to 24 Mbit/s, no LLU, not Entanet, TalkTalk-related or Virgin? David King You could have a look at TitanADSL.org.uk, I believe they do non-LLU/non-Enta services (they are Enta resellers but like a lot of Enta resellers they DO offer alternatives to Enta). Are you on an exchange which has been enabled for the ADSL2+ service? From what I understand some of the bigger exchanges have been enabled by BT but a lot of the smaller exchanges have Wholesale Broadband Connect ADSL2+ dates of 2010 or possibly later. You could look at Plusnet, Zen, Andrews Arnold to name a few. I believe PlusNet do throttle their connections but do clearly state what they do and what they don't throttle. To be honest I think the days of all you can eat broadband (i.e. truely unlimitied unthrottled broadband for under £30 a month) are over. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
John Levin wrote: Hi, I'm looking for reccomendations for broadband suppliers and hosting. First off, I'm getting rid of Entanet (via UKFSN) as they've seen fit to more than double their charges! (Getting ready for long phone session to customer services today) Don't have cable, so looking for a geek-friendly adsl service. Be - http://www.bethere.co.uk/ Web Tapestry - http://www.webtapestry.net/ Secondly, I'm looking for a second hosting service. I use evohosting http://www.evohosting.co.uk/ and am very happy with them, but in case of failure want to have (and to be able to reccomend to others) a secondary web/email system. Plus I'd like ubuntu-based servers, just for fun. Any suggestions? Bitfolk - http://www.bitfolk.com/ Bytemark - http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
Hi, I'm looking for reccomendations for broadband suppliers and hosting. First off, I'm getting rid of Entanet (via UKFSN) as they've seen fit to more than double their charges! (Getting ready for long phone session to customer services today) Don't have cable, so looking for a geek-friendly adsl service. Secondly, I'm looking for a second hosting service. I use evohosting http://www.evohosting.co.uk/ and am very happy with them, but in case of failure want to have (and to be able to reccomend to others) a secondary web/email system. Plus I'd like ubuntu-based servers, just for fun. Any suggestions? TIA John -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
On 04/06/09 08:09, John Levin wrote: Hi, I'm looking for reccomendations for broadband suppliers and hosting. First off, I'm getting rid of Entanet (via UKFSN) as they've seen fit to more than double their charges! (Getting ready for long phone session to customer services today) Don't have cable, so looking for a geek-friendly adsl service. Pass on the ISP - I have been with Pipex for ages, was bought by Tiscalli, now CarPhone Warehouse. So I will probably have to move soon. But it is a reliable service, 8mbp/s static IP and 30GB/month for about £15/m. Secondly, I'm looking for a second hosting service. I use evohosting http://www.evohosting.co.uk/ and am very happy with them, but in case of failure want to have (and to be able to reccomend to others) a secondary web/email system. Plus I'd like ubuntu-based servers, just for fun. Any suggestions? We use Bytemark (www.bytemark.co.uk) and have been happy with them to-date. You can choose what image you run on your VMs (VPSs) including Ubuntu. They only do Linux and you get full root/ssh access + a serial port access for when things go fsck and you need to reboot. HTH Al -- The Way Out Is Open http://www.theopensourcerer.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
John Levin wrote: Hi, I'm looking for reccomendations for broadband suppliers and hosting. First off, I'm getting rid of Entanet (via UKFSN) as they've seen fit to more than double their charges! (Getting ready for long phone session to customer services today) Don't have cable, so looking for a geek-friendly adsl service. There are a couple of decent ISP's out there, possibly Andrews Arnold (www.aaisp.net.uk) or Zen (www.zen.co.uk) but I understand they can be a little pricey. Other than that, if your local exchange is LLU enabled that is another option. If you go into the ThinkBroadband.com forums and ask in the Enta forum a few of the other Enta resellers are now offering LLU services or alternative ADSL services other than through Enta (basically because of the whole ALT thing that Enta customers were suffering from, exactly the reason I left). Some of the Enta resellers that I know are offering alternatives to Enta now are TitanADSL (titanadsl.org.uk), ADSL24 (www.adsl24.co.uk) and Vivaciti (www.vivaciti.net) who I was with when I had Enta. I can recommend Vivaciti as they offered great service, the only reason I left was because I couldn't get the LLU service and I was able to get Virgin Broadband, TV and Phone for less than I was paying for the BT phoneline Enta service. Ta, Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
I was with Pipex before I moved and have had great trouble cancelling them - they keep billing me at the old address, despite written confirmation I'm no longer there and receiving any service. Their computers say if you don't pay we'll cut you off and their call centre won't acknowledge that if I'm not there I DON'T CARE if they do, as they already did. It's a nightmare - and the cancellation line is a premium rate number which doesn't get answered for 30 minutes You are in a queue - we will get to you when we will, but in the meantime please be assured that your 20p/minute contribution to our Christmas Party is very important to us. So avoid Pipex/Tiscali like the plague for now. Wife is with Talk Talk and appears to be happy, so perhaps the Carphone Warehouse will improve their service - or perhaps they'll destroy Carphone Warehouse. That is to be seen. I am with BE Broadband (http://beunlimited.co.uk) now and I'm getting speeds in excess of 8mbps (I've paid only for the 8mbps option, apparently the line could do 16mbps) for about £12.50/month and I'm very happy. They tried to charge me a connection fee but I phoned them on their freephone number and they apologised profusely and refunded them - that's customer service!! Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
Just to say I believe BE Broadband, who I just praised above, is LLU so it's possible they won't be available in your area but the service I get (Be Value) which is actually £13.50 (not the £12.50 I said) is quite fast enough for my liking at 8mbps (as I used to only get 1mbps or thereabouts despite the service being 'up to 8mbps' with Pipex), comes with a very nice wireless router and - as I said - a very helpful call centre at the end of a freephone number. And to have an unmetered value package with a commitment in the TC's never to traffic shape etc. for that price is, to me, remarkably good value. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
Sean Miller wrote: I was with Pipex before I moved and have had great trouble cancelling them - they keep billing me at the old address, despite written confirmation I'm no longer there and receiving any service. Their computers say if you don't pay we'll cut you off and their call centre won't acknowledge that if I'm not there I DON'T CARE if they do, as they already did. It's a nightmare - and the cancellation line is a premium rate number which doesn't get answered for 30 minutes You are in a queue - we will get to you when we will, but in the meantime please be assured that your 20p/minute contribution to our Christmas Party is very important to us. That matches what I've heard about Pipex and Tiscalli, IIRC Nildram and possibly Freedom 2 Surf are owned by them too. Shame really as years ago Pipex were one of the good ISPs. So avoid Pipex/Tiscali like the plague for now. Wife is with Talk Talk and appears to be happy, so perhaps the Carphone Warehouse will improve their service - or perhaps they'll destroy Carphone Warehouse. That is to be seen. With any luck Carphone Warehouse will turn them around. Okay Carphone Warehouse aren't the best ISP either the few people I know who have connections with them don't seem to have many problems. I am with BE Broadband (http://beunlimited.co.uk) now and I'm getting speeds in excess of 8mbps (I've paid only for the 8mbps option, apparently the line could do 16mbps) for about £12.50/month and I'm very happy. They tried to charge me a connection fee but I phoned them on their freephone number and they apologised profusely and refunded them - that's customer service!! The only problem I find with Be is that you have to be connected to an exchange that they have their equipment installed in. I've heard they are pretty good and you can get some good offers from Be and especially O2 via Quidco (a visit to the O2 section on the ThinkBroadband.com forums is useful as there is someone in there who collates the offers that Be and O2 have and sometimes you can get cashback which covers most of the broadband fees (some people were getting the equivalent of about 9 months free after cashback!). Plus if you're an O2 mobile customer (either contract or Pay As You Go spending £10 every 3 months) you can also save money on O2 broadband. The only problem is if your exchange has their equipment. I'd say if you wanted to go down the O2 route read the ThinkBroadband.com forums first as O2 offer LLU connections which are pretty good and O2 Access (for those who can't get the LLU service) and that is pretty bad. If you have a look at SamKnows.com on the exchange search you should be able to find out what is available on your exchange. On my local exchange I have the choice of BT (or any ISP who uses BT Wholesale) or Talktalk LLU but some of the bigger exchanges may have 2 or 3 providers covering them. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/09 10:28, Rob Beard wrote: That matches what I've heard about Pipex and Tiscalli, IIRC Nildram and possibly Freedom 2 Surf are owned by them too. Shame really as years ago Pipex were one of the good ISPs. It's all a bit complicated isn't it? I'm a happy Nildram customer and have been for about 6 years now. They're now owned by Talk Talk though (was Pipex, then Tiscali). Thankfully I've never noticed a reduction in the quality of service (either hardware or human) throughout those changes. http://www.talktalk.co.uk/tiscali/ - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: sq...@thefloatingfrog.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkonmJQACgkQJ+Auntu1v4QprgCfWf9R8W0QSG8kUk4JOC7Gq772 XYMAn2S7fT77pgpZXIJMJ29KMNVctYRI =Ix63 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Stephen O'Neill sq...@thefloatingfrog.co.uk wrote: I'm a happy Nildram customer and have been for about 6 years now. They're now owned by Talk Talk though (was Pipex, then Tiscali). Thankfully I've never noticed a reduction in the quality of service (either hardware or human) throughout those changes. For the record I never had any great issue with the Pipex service, apart from the speed which they said wasn't their fault. It has been the issues getting away from them that would put me off ever touching these people again. To force somebody to actually call a premium rate number and then put them on hold and then not actually cancel is criminal imho. And to ignore written letters. Just be aware if you go with Pipex/Tiscali or any of their various brands that you may spend a significant amount of money cancelling if you ever wish to. BE aren't like that. Still getting bills to my old address from Pipex, and have written three letters saying I'M NOT HERE!!! PLEASE GO AWAY!!! CONSIDER THIS CANCELLED - AND HERE IS MY NEW ADDRESS! WRITE TO CONFIRM ACKNOWLEDGEMENT! and they just ignore them. Not had one letter back here, they still keep writing to the old. What is that about? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 10:28 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: Sean Miller wrote: I was with Pipex before I moved and have had great trouble cancelling them - they keep billing me at the old address, despite written confirmation I'm no longer there and receiving any service. Their computers say if you don't pay we'll cut you off and their call centre won't acknowledge that if I'm not there I DON'T CARE if they do, as they already did. It's a nightmare - and the cancellation line is a premium rate number which doesn't get answered for 30 minutes You are in a queue - we will get to you when we will, but in the meantime please be assured that your 20p/minute contribution to our Christmas Party is very important to us. That matches what I've heard about Pipex and Tiscalli, IIRC Nildram and possibly Freedom 2 Surf are owned by them too. Shame really as years ago Pipex were one of the good ISPs. So avoid Pipex/Tiscali like the plague for now. Wife is with Talk Talk and appears to be happy, so perhaps the Carphone Warehouse will improve their service - or perhaps they'll destroy Carphone Warehouse. That is to be seen. With any luck Carphone Warehouse will turn them around. Okay Carphone Warehouse aren't the best ISP either the few people I know who have connections with them don't seem to have many problems. I am with BE Broadband (http://beunlimited.co.uk) now and I'm getting speeds in excess of 8mbps (I've paid only for the 8mbps option, apparently the line could do 16mbps) for about £12.50/month and I'm very happy. They tried to charge me a connection fee but I phoned them on their freephone number and they apologised profusely and refunded them - that's customer service!! The only problem I find with Be is that you have to be connected to an exchange that they have their equipment installed in. I've heard they are pretty good and you can get some good offers from Be and especially O2 via Quidco (a visit to the O2 section on the ThinkBroadband.com forums is useful as there is someone in there who collates the offers that Be and O2 have and sometimes you can get cashback which covers most of the broadband fees (some people were getting the equivalent of about 9 months free after cashback!). Plus if you're an O2 mobile customer (either contract or Pay As You Go spending £10 every 3 months) you can also save money on O2 broadband. The only problem is if your exchange has their equipment. I'd say if you wanted to go down the O2 route read the ThinkBroadband.com forums first as O2 offer LLU connections which are pretty good and O2 Access (for those who can't get the LLU service) and that is pretty bad. If you have a look at SamKnows.com on the exchange search you should be able to find out what is available on your exchange. On my local exchange I have the choice of BT (or any ISP who uses BT Wholesale) or Talktalk LLU but some of the bigger exchanges may have 2 or 3 providers covering them. Rob I'm now typing this through Evolution (woohoo!) Right, now back onto the topic I've heard great things about BE - they come highly recommended from everyone I know, and I would indeed swap to them if it wasn't for the fact that Orange are fairly uptight, and I can't be bothered dealing with them yet. Regarding hosting, TMDHosting(.com) have the best customer service EVER. They've replied to tickets within 1 minute before now - and they can help with anything you want, whether it's changing hosts, or merely something small. The only downside is that you can't 'choose' your server type, as far as I know James -- James Milligan http://www.lake54.com http://www.killermentality.com http://www.twitter.com/lake54 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
I've just migrated to O2's LLU service which costs me £9 per month for upto 20 meg download (I get 13 as an actual speed). Hosting isn't really my area but Web Faction let you pleay arround quite a bit and will let u SSH into the box. They are expensive and they run a falvour of BSD pus the are bassed in Texas. Hope this helps, Neall -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
2009/6/4 Neall Mclaren neall.mcla...@googlemail.com: I've just migrated to O2's LLU service which costs me £9 per month for upto 20 meg download (I get 13 as an actual speed). Hosting isn't really my area but Web Faction let you pleay arround quite a bit and will let u SSH into the box. They are expensive and they run a falvour of BSD pus the are bassed in Texas. WebFaction are very good value for money, actually. They are a UK based company, but the data centre is in Texas. They run CentOS, not a BSD. They are particularly good if you want to run Django or Rails applications. Cheers, Andrew -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
Do you have a URL for WebFaction? David King Andrew Turner wrote: 2009/6/4 Neall Mclaren neall.mcla...@googlemail.com: I've just migrated to O2's LLU service which costs me £9 per month for upto 20 meg download (I get 13 as an actual speed). Hosting isn't really my area but Web Faction let you pleay arround quite a bit and will let u SSH into the box. They are expensive and they run a falvour of BSD pus the are bassed in Texas. WebFaction are very good value for money, actually. They are a UK based company, but the data centre is in Texas. They run CentOS, not a BSD. They are particularly good if you want to run Django or Rails applications. Cheers, Andrew -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
2009/6/4 David King linux...@avoura.com: Do you have a URL for WebFaction? http://www.webfaction.com/ ;) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
I also use UKFSN for my broadband ISP, and lately the service has been rubbish. I am getting much slower speeds, sometimes down to less than 1 Mbit/s. And the technical support is currently non-existent. I think it is a one-man show, who means well, wanting to support free open source software, but he obviously does not have the manpower to deal with queries and EntaNet are badly letting down the customers, for which UKFSN is a reseller. I have always heard many bad things about Tiscali, Pipex, and TalkTalk. Now they are all part of the same ISP, I will avoid them like the plague. I also hear that Virgin is very bad too, although if you can get cable and it works, and you do not have to deal with their helplines, it might be okay, but after many bad experiences with NTL in the past I will never go with them again, even though they are now rebranded as Virgin Media. I had a look at the http://adsl24.co.uk website, and according to that, I can get up to 24 Mbit/s where I live. Although their site suggests I would only get 3.2 Mbit/s, which is rather poor, considering I am only 2 km from the exchange. Maybe the routing of the BT cables is so not straight that it is a lot more than 2 km along the wires? I measured the distance on Google Earth, it was less than 2 km in a straight line, so about 2 km along the main roads. Elsewhere I read that at 2 km I should get 15 Mbit/s. I was considering BE but I do not like 12-month contracts, and their site does not give any details that I could find about cancelling. But they do allow for unlimited bandwidth, which is helpful when downloading updates to Ubuntu or various distro ISO files to try out, as well as the various free movies on http://www.archive.org/details/movies or free music from http://freealbums.blogsome.com/ ADSL24 have more limited bandwidth, the same as UKFSN currently offers (£18.90 for 30 GB peak, unlimited at weekends and 00:00-08:00). As for hosting, I use 11 Internet Ltd. http://www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=3899401 They have been very good for hosting overall, and I can have as many domain names there as I like (all paid for of course), so it's good for hosting multiple sites in one hosting space. I once had a problem with using FTP, they password they supplied contained a / character, and the FTP worked fine in Windows, but when I switched to using Linux it would not work, until I changed the password to something without any unusual characters in. David King John Levin wrote: Hi, I'm looking for reccomendations for broadband suppliers and hosting. First off, I'm getting rid of Entanet (via UKFSN) as they've seen fit to more than double their charges! (Getting ready for long phone session to customer services today) Don't have cable, so looking for a geek-friendly adsl service. Secondly, I'm looking for a second hosting service. I use evohosting http://www.evohosting.co.uk/ and am very happy with them, but in case of failure want to have (and to be able to reccomend to others) a secondary web/email system. Plus I'd like ubuntu-based servers, just for fun. Any suggestions? TIA John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
David King wrote: I also hear that Virgin is very bad too, although if you can get cable and it works, and you do not have to deal with their helplines, it might be okay, but after many bad experiences with NTL in the past I will never go with them again, even though they are now rebranded as Virgin Media. I use Virgin Media over cable, and have the 20 Mb service, and have found it flawless. I usually get the full speed, especially when working with fast servers. One big plus is that at mirrors.virginmedia.com they mirror Tucows Mac Kernel Fedora Linux Tucows PDA Freebsd Debian Linux Openoffice Ubuntu linux Tucows Games Tucows Tucows Linux Gentoo OpenBSD Ubuntu linux Slackware Linux Tucows Themes Apache and so I have gotten great speeds downloading different distros, as this server is fairly local. Also my Ubuntu updates come from the virginmedia server, and these are very quick too. People only usually make noise when a service is bad, so often what your hear isn't always a true reflection. Dan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
I would agree with Dan. I am with Virgin media and have the 20Mb service. I can't fault it, the caps are annoying if you have a heavy day but otherwise i get the full speed and good latency. Only thing they have got wrong is they didn't spell my name properly but it can't be changed now. strange. Thanks, Toby. 2009/6/4 Ken Robson k...@robsonfamily.co.uk After migrating from UKFSN about 4 months ago, I went with plusnet, depends on what you want, but the unlimited service I find is good, you are told the throttles up front and there are no caps. Only minus side is that now they have an 18month contract for new signups. But if you are a light user (10Gb/month) the light user is £11.99/month for most people or £5.99 if you are on a Market 3/4 exchange (the home page will give details) Get in-touch with me if you decide to go with them and I can have a recommendation discount ;-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- -- Toby Satchell BSc (hons) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/09 08:19, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 04/06/09 08:09, John Levin wrote: Hi, I'm looking for reccomendations for broadband suppliers and hosting. First off, I'm getting rid of Entanet (via UKFSN) as they've seen fit to more than double their charges! (Getting ready for long phone session to customer services today) Don't have cable, so looking for a geek-friendly adsl service. Pass on the ISP - I have been with Pipex for ages, was bought by Tiscalli, now CarPhone Warehouse. So I will probably have to move soon. But it is a reliable service, 8mbp/s static IP and 30GB/month for about £15/m. Secondly, I'm looking for a second hosting service. I use evohosting http://www.evohosting.co.uk/ and am very happy with them, but in case of failure want to have (and to be able to reccomend to others) a secondary web/email system. Plus I'd like ubuntu-based servers, just for fun. Any suggestions? We use Bytemark (www.bytemark.co.uk) and have been happy with them to-date. You can choose what image you run on your VMs (VPSs) including Ubuntu. They only do Linux and you get full root/ssh access + a serial port access for when things go fsck and you need to reboot. HTH Al -- The Way Out Is Open http://www.theopensourcerer.com And on the subject of fsck, you could also give FSCKVPS a try. They have great prices and pretty good support. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (GPG Key ID:646ED06A) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkon6PQACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GqiPwCgq0H996rtcRLs3FsrC69JOEvu 5l8AnjaUvLUQ2LtS/WKQ0LqjYQnNAS3p =WbKb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Broadband Modem peer-to-peer
Hi, My mother has an Ubuntu PC and her broadband contract has just expired. She uses the web very rarely (sends the odd email may surf occasionally) but doesn't really use broadband to it's full and, to be quite honest, broadband for her is a waste of her money. I'm going to set her up with a good old dial up connection BUT what about Ubuntu's regular 140M patch, patch recall then repatch cycles ? These are really going to start hitting the dialup costs. I'm quite happy to do manual updates by taking a DVD over occasionally but a thought came to mind, rather than use a dialup modem, can I set up her broadband modem and my broadband modem so that they can talk directly to each other over the telephone system ? I currently run OpenVPN over the current arrangement so could I do something without a broadband supplier ? I'm not an expert on broadband - just an end user but is there anybody out there who knows more about this ? Regards, D ubuntu/uk-2009-05-16.txubuntu-uk ++ | Dave Restall, Computer Nerd, Cyclist, Radio Amateur G4FCU, Bodger | | Mob +44 (0) 7973 831245 Skype: dave.restall Radio: G4FCU | | email : d...@restall.net Web : Not Ready Yet :-( | ++ | Hawk, we're going to die. Never say die... and certainly | | never say we. | | -- M*A*S*H | ++ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Modem peer-to-peer
On 16/05/09 10:02, David Restall - System Administrator wrote: snip / I'm quite happy to do manual updates by taking a DVD over occasionally but a thought came to mind, rather than use a dialup modem, can I set up her broadband modem and my broadband modem so that they can talk directly to each other over the telephone system ? I currently run OpenVPN over the current arrangement so could I do something without a broadband supplier ? No you can't I'm afraid. Most consumer broadband is called ADSL and is Asynchronous and the modem at the customer's end has to talk to something called a DSLAM at your local telephone exchange. That's as far as the broadband modulated signal goes. It terminates at the DSLAM and is then IP over SDH or ATM from that point forward. To be honest, if you shop around, I think you could find a capped broadband deal that would be cheaper than dial-up. Most ISPs are phasing out dial-up all together so in a year or so you won't have much of a choice anyway. HTH Alan PS - I'm assuming you are in the UK. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Modem peer-to-peer
As another posted noted, you cannot connect ADSL peer-to-peer. It requires [DSLAM | magic pixie dust] at the telephone exchange. David Restall - System Administrator wrote: My mother has an Ubuntu PC and her broadband contract has just expired. She uses the web very rarely (sends the odd email may surf occasionally) but doesn't really use broadband to it's full and, to be quite honest, If she's not permanently connected (ie. not on broadband), doesn't frequently connect and doesn't browse high-risk sites (eg. pr0n, warez, gaming, gambling, make-money-fast schemes, prescription medication) then she is in a very low-risk category for malware. Manual monthly updates burned to DVD should be fine. It's not ideal, and low-risk is not no-risk, but I'd turn automatic updates off, or switch them to notifications only. Might be an idea to take a backup, though, just in case. Then you can wipe and reinstall in the very unlikely event that a problem occurs. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Modem peer-to-peer
The other alternative to land based ADSL / Broadband is the 3G variety. That being said, remember that if she changes ISPs, she may also have to change Email addresses - not a problem if it's just close knit group that contacts her thusly. Personally, I'd go for the capped Broadband and make sure you/she reads through the small print for things like minimum contract period and renewal times. The last alternative, and I only mention as it is one, is to utilise a nextdoor neighbour's connection through wireless Oh, and dial up won't be disappearing totally, but will be hard to find, as there's still locations where Broadband is not available. I suppose she could dial into your network for connectivity, as long as her phone provider tariff provided her with free calls when she needed to connect remembering of course that this would tie up your own home line, unless you were a two line household! Cheers Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Andrew Oakley Sent: 16 May 2009 10:33 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Modem peer-to-peer As another posted noted, you cannot connect ADSL peer-to-peer. It requires [DSLAM | magic pixie dust] at the telephone exchange. David Restall - System Administrator wrote: My mother has an Ubuntu PC and her broadband contract has just expired. She uses the web very rarely (sends the odd email may surf occasionally) but doesn't really use broadband to it's full and, to be quite honest, If she's not permanently connected (ie. not on broadband), doesn't frequently connect and doesn't browse high-risk sites (eg. pr0n, warez, gaming, gambling, make-money-fast schemes, prescription medication) then she is in a very low-risk category for malware. Manual monthly updates burned to DVD should be fine. It's not ideal, and low-risk is not no-risk, but I'd turn automatic updates off, or switch them to notifications only. Might be an idea to take a backup, though, just in case. Then you can wipe and reinstall in the very unlikely event that a problem occurs. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband
Micro Mart were slagging off Tiscali in the Feb edition I think that Tiscali do this, when a wrong address is typed, it brings up a page of ads, like this :http://results.ispconnect.co.uk/main?AddInType=BdnsVersion=1.3.0FailureMode=1ParticipantID=iu4dlszggyivxb0k1g8afi94imr4lkbtClientLocation=ukReferer=FailedURI=http%3A%2F%2Ffwrjgjrngwrnbwf.com%2FSearchQuery= I am now looking for a new ISP, also the tiscali service seems to be getting slower, I know they use traffic shaping. Mj -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband
On 23/02/2008, les [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Sorry if I am asking a rather basic question - I think I sort of know the answer to this one but would like to be sure. A friend is intending to use my old computer (dual boot with Ubuntu and Windows ME, 450 MHz, 256 GB RAM, 2 USB ports but no ethernet) for modest internet access. I have managed to persuade him that it is safer to use only Ubuntu for the internet, and I have provided a Thomson/Alcatel Speedtouch modem, for which I have Linux drivers, for use in the meantime. However, he may get a laptop at some point, in which case a wireless router might be useful. Has anyone any suggestions as to which ISP's are most suitable and Linux friendly? One constraint is that it would be best if the broadband contract does not affect the way in which phone calls are billed, as he will be using someone else's phone line (with their consent). He has been looking at BT and Orange, but has anyone any comments on PlusNet? Les. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ I've been using PlusNet ever since broadband became available in my area. Not had any major problems with them, good uptime decent speeds. Only ever needed to contact their support a couple of times over the years. Unfortunately they do traffic shaping, but only between peak times apparently. As long as you've got a router most if not all ISPs should work with Linux, they may however not all offer customer support for Linux platforms but I wouldn't worry about that at all. Cheers. David Martin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Broadband
Thanks for the replies to my query. It does seem that BT should be avoided like the plague, according to The Register (www.theregister.co.uk) Apparently they are planning to relay all the http web pages their customers view to servers in China, run by a Phorm, a company with a history of using spyware and with dodgy Russian connections, to allow targeted advertising. Virgin Media and Carphone Warehouse are doing the same. While it will be possible to opt out of targeted ads, it looks as though it will not be possible to opt out of the redirection of the web pages. Although Phorm claim that all the data will be anonymised, that they will not look at https pages and that numbers longer than 3 digits will be ignored, it seems obvious that there is a potential for identity theft, as well as a major breach of privacy. Les. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband
Kris Douglas wrote: On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:26 PM, les [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the replies to my query. It does seem that BT should be avoided like the plague, according to The Register (www.theregister.co.uk) Apparently they are planning to relay all the http web pages their customers view to servers in China, run by a Phorm, a company with a history of using spyware and with dodgy Russian connections, to allow targeted advertising. Virgin Media and Carphone Warehouse are doing the same. While it will be possible to opt out of targeted ads, it looks as though it will not be possible to opt out of the redirection of the web pages. Although Phorm claim that all the data will be anonymised, that they will not look at https pages and that numbers longer than 3 digits will be ignored, it seems obvious that there is a potential for identity theft, as well as a major breach of privacy. Christ. (full stop) i am so glad i left talktalk yesterday! [owned by carphone] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband
Kris Douglas wrote: On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:26 PM, les [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the replies to my query. It does seem that BT should be avoided like the plague, according to The Register (www.theregister.co.uk) Apparently they are planning to relay all the http web pages their customers view to servers in China, run by a Phorm, a company with a history of using spyware and with dodgy Russian connections, to allow targeted advertising. Virgin Media and Carphone Warehouse are doing the same. While it will be possible to opt out of targeted ads, it looks as though it will not be possible to opt out of the redirection of the web pages. Although Phorm claim that all the data will be anonymised, that they will not look at https pages and that numbers longer than 3 digits will be ignored, it seems obvious that there is a potential for identity theft, as well as a major breach of privacy. Christ. (full stop) I think that Tiscali do this, when a wrong address is typed, it brings up a page of ads, like this :http://results.ispconnect.co.uk/main?AddInType=BdnsVersion=1.3.0FailureMode=1ParticipantID=iu4dlszggyivxb0k1g8afi94imr4lkbtClientLocation=ukReferer=FailedURI=http%3A%2F%2Ffwrjgjrngwrnbwf.com%2FSearchQuery= I am now looking for a new ISP, also the tiscali service seems to be getting slower, I know they use traffic shaping. Mj -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband
Some more info on Phorm: http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/02/29/phorm-might-be-onto-something/ -- Dave Murphy - http://schwuk.com Get in touch - http://schwuk.com/contact -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:26 PM, les [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the replies to my query. It does seem that BT should be avoided like the plague, according to The Register (www.theregister.co.uk) Apparently they are planning to relay all the http web pages their customers view to servers in China, run by a Phorm, a company with a history of using spyware and with dodgy Russian connections, to allow targeted advertising. Virgin Media and Carphone Warehouse are doing the same. While it will be possible to opt out of targeted ads, it looks as though it will not be possible to opt out of the redirection of the web pages. Although Phorm claim that all the data will be anonymised, that they will not look at https pages and that numbers longer than 3 digits will be ignored, it seems obvious that there is a potential for identity theft, as well as a major breach of privacy. Christ. (full stop) -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:12:31 + Andrew Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For beginners I always recommend BT for ADSL, since if there is a connection problem, they can't blame it on anyone else. Other ISPs, if you get a connection problem, sometimes they try to fob you off saying there's a fault on the line, and that it's BT's fault; BT then come back and say it's the ISP's fault, and so it goes on in circles. Both my parents and my in-laws use BT broadband and have had zero hassle. Once my dad reported a connection problem to BT, it turned out to be water collecting in a cable tray under the pavement over the road, and of course they sent a man out to dig it up and fix it. It really makes no difference which ISP you use when it comes to faults - they are all customers of BT Wholesale, even BT Broadband. BT Broadband *might* get higher priority when it comes to getting faults fixed, but that's not enough to make me recommend them especially when balanced against the tales of poor performance from BT. I was told this by a BT Wholesale engineer whilst fixing a fault with my (non-BT Broadband) ADSL connection when I asked about BT Broadband. -- Dave Murphy - http://schwuk.com Get in touch - http://schwuk.com/contact -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband
I don't think BT Broadband get any higher priorities, to be honest. My dad has BT Business Broadband and he got involved in the it's their fault ping pong... just because they're theoretically part of the same group doesn't mean they're any more integrated than if they weren't... Personally I'd avoid them like the plague because they hardcode their routers to only use with their system, whereas many others actually give you a router that will continue to work if you move providers. They also cache things on their servers, leading to websites appearing not to have changed when they have. I don't get that with Pipex. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Broadband
Hello, Sorry if I am asking a rather basic question - I think I sort of know the answer to this one but would like to be sure. A friend is intending to use my old computer (dual boot with Ubuntu and Windows ME, 450 MHz, 256 GB RAM, 2 USB ports but no ethernet) for modest internet access. I have managed to persuade him that it is safer to use only Ubuntu for the internet, and I have provided a Thomson/Alcatel Speedtouch modem, for which I have Linux drivers, for use in the meantime. However, he may get a laptop at some point, in which case a wireless router might be useful. Has anyone any suggestions as to which ISP's are most suitable and Linux friendly? One constraint is that it would be best if the broadband contract does not affect the way in which phone calls are billed, as he will be using someone else's phone line (with their consent). He has been looking at BT and Orange, but has anyone any comments on PlusNet? Les. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband
les wrote: Hello, Sorry if I am asking a rather basic question - I think I sort of know the answer to this one but would like to be sure. A friend is intending to use my old computer (dual boot with Ubuntu and Windows ME, 450 MHz, 256 GB RAM, 2 USB ports but no ethernet) for modest internet access. I have managed to persuade him that it is safer to use only Ubuntu for the internet, and I have provided a Thomson/Alcatel Speedtouch modem, for which I have Linux drivers, for use in the meantime. However, he may get a laptop at some point, in which case a wireless router might be useful. Has anyone any suggestions as to which ISP's are most suitable and Linux friendly? One constraint is that it would be best if the broadband contract does not affect the way in which phone calls are billed, as he will be using someone else's phone line (with their consent). He has been looking at BT and Orange, but has anyone any comments on PlusNet? Les. I'm not sure what Plusnet are like now, I used them about 5 years ago and they were okay. If you want a Linux friendly ISP, why not try the UKFSN (http://www.ukfsn.org/) as they're a Linux friendly ISP, they even go as far as funding Free Software with their profits. Prices start from about £16 for about an 8MBit connection with 3GB peak and 30GB off peak usage allowance and about £20 for 30Gb peak and 300GB off peak. Peak hours are from 8am to 10pm Monday to Friday and off-peak is from 10pm on Friday to 8am on Monday. He'd be responsible for the activation charge (about £47) and monthly fee, it's separately billed to the main phone bill. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband
if he is intending to use a wireless router it is entirely irrelevant which ISP he uses because it will be the router, not Linux, which logs into ADSL. He may have issues with wireless cards, mind you, though the situation now is a lot better than it was 2-3 years ago... many now seem to work out of the box in a way they didn't then. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband
les wrote: wireless router might be useful. Has anyone any suggestions as to which ISP's are most suitable and Linux friendly? One constraint is that it British Telecom's default supplied wireless router seems to work well with my Dell Ubuntu Linux laptop, but then so does every other wireless router I've connected to. For beginners I always recommend BT for ADSL, since if there is a connection problem, they can't blame it on anyone else. Other ISPs, if you get a connection problem, sometimes they try to fob you off saying there's a fault on the line, and that it's BT's fault; BT then come back and say it's the ISP's fault, and so it goes on in circles. Both my parents and my in-laws use BT broadband and have had zero hassle. Once my dad reported a connection problem to BT, it turned out to be water collecting in a cable tray under the pavement over the road, and of course they sent a man out to dig it up and fix it. To be honest, once you've set up the wireless router and the wireless card on the laptop, there is very little other Linux-specific configuration to be done, so I wouldn't worry about an ISP being specifically Linux friendly, not for a beginner who isn't going to run their own servers or so forth. For more advanced users such as myself, I recommend www.SurfAnyTime.com . They're a small ISP based in the Isle of Man, but have very good UK connectivity and bandwidth, very high uptime, offer static IP addresses at no extra cost, have good download limits for the prices, staff understand Linux needs such as running SMTP servers from home, and the staff are happy to talk tech direct to customers. Best of all, they have public support forums where the technical staff - including the company director himself - take part and answer questions day in, day out. Doing support in public is great because it makes it easy to figure out whether everyone else is having the same problem as you! Of course there is telephone and email support too if you need a little more privacy (not that email, or telephone for that matter, is particularly private). I also recommend my employer www.names.co.uk but due to my declared interest I won't brag too much. Suffice to say that most of our techs run Linux or Mac/BSD on our desktops at work, so we're definitely Linux friendly. We also have real genuine British call centre support staff, manned until 8pm, with real 01xxx telephone numbers (although we provide 0845 numbers too) actually sitting in England (Worcester), and actually in the same open-plan office as the techs! I can't guarantee the first person you speak to on the phone will be a Linux expert, but the second person... no problem. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
On 05/02/2008, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does anyone have any advice? Cheers, My boss has signed up for this offer. I've had a play with the laptop in question, and IMHO it's a bit of a shed. Low spec and not very good build quality. He's in a meeting at the mo, but I will make a point to ask him about the actual Broadband service when comes out, and pass the info on. HTH -- Steve Garton http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
Hi All, I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep them as a supplier!!! AOL are currently offering a free dell 1520 laptop (now discontinued!) and my wife has suggested taking the broadband offer, selling the laptop and making some cash. I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does anyone have any advice? Cheers, M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG KEY: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xFEA1BC16 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
On Feb 5, 2008 3:55 PM, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep them as a supplier!!! This sounds odd... Even though you want to move your broadband, PN (my ISP too incidentally) want to charge you for the remainder of the contract? Are you certain this is the case? I assume it's the deferred charge for setting your installation up but I'd have though that if you're keeping them as your supplier they can move the charges onto the new contract with them... Doesn't seem a particularly smart way to do business. -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
Quoting Steve Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Feb 5, 2008 3:55 PM, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep them as a supplier!!! This sounds odd... Even though you want to move your broadband, PN (my ISP too incidentally) want to charge you for the remainder of the contract? Are you certain this is the case? I assume it's the deferred charge for setting your installation up but I'd have though that if you're keeping them as your supplier they can move the charges onto the new contract with them... Doesn't seem a particularly smart way to do business. That's what I thought too. I've yet to speak to their cancellations department, just the normal helpdesk, so I'll see what happens there. M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG KEY: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xFEA1BC16 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Hi All, I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep them as a supplier!!! AOL are currently offering a free dell 1520 laptop (now discontinued!) and my wife has suggested taking the broadband offer, selling the laptop and making some cash. I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does anyone have any advice? Cheers, M. Speaking as an EX-AOL customer, I wouldn't do it. When I had AOL is was god damn awful, even worse when Talktalk took over. I'd NEVER take out anything more than a 3 month contract for any ISP now. Personally I think you'd be better off looking at someone like UKFSN (www.ukfsn.org). They are resellers for Enta (I'm with another Enta reseller - Vivaciti) prices are from about £16 a month but they have 30 day contracts and great support. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
Wasn't there some problems with AoL that meant that they were not compatible with Linux based OS's? Anyhow, I agree with Rob about steering clear of Talk Talk unless you want to tie yourself into a, still?, crap Customer Services and a long contract. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 05 February 2008 17:31 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Hi All, I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep them as a supplier!!! AOL are currently offering a free dell 1520 laptop (now discontinued!) and my wife has suggested taking the broadband offer, selling the laptop and making some cash. I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does anyone have any advice? Cheers, M. Speaking as an EX-AOL customer, I wouldn't do it. When I had AOL is was god damn awful, even worse when Talktalk took over. I'd NEVER take out anything more than a 3 month contract for any ISP now. Personally I think you'd be better off looking at someone like UKFSN (www.ukfsn.org). They are resellers for Enta (I'm with another Enta reseller - Vivaciti) prices are from about £16 a month but they have 30 day contracts and great support. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
On 2/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But keep it to yourself, don't go telling everyone I use AOL! ;D Oops, I must read the whole piece before taking action... ...I'm sure that the News of the World won't be interested in the story, anyway... so don't worry. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
On 05/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a confession to make... I... I... I use AOL *sob* But it's due to BT being a bunch of [insert chosen expletive]. Where I live I can only get 1/2mb broadband and BT wanted to charge me £27/mth for it. Even though people were getting 8mb for £27! So my only other (unlimited) alternative was AOL, £17/mth and no cap. I have to be honest, in the past few years with them I've had no down time at all. Only fault with them is their God awful AOL browser thing. And you really need to run that thing at least once to set up a decent (secure) log in, I did it that once back when I was dual booting. Not sure if the browser thing runs in WINE, but once you have a secure username and password set you can use a router/modem to do the logging in. I use Linux 24/7 with AOL and it's dandy. But keep it to yourself, don't go telling everyone I use AOL! ;D Quoting Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All, I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep them as a supplier!!! AOL are currently offering a free dell 1520 laptop (now discontinued!) and my wife has suggested taking the broadband offer, selling the laptop and making some cash. I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does anyone have any advice? Cheers, M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG KEY: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xFEA1BC16 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ AOL doesn't actually need anything special, replace the modem they give you, enter the settings and you don't need to use the browser or the stupid login thing for anything. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
Ian Pascoe wrote: Wasn't there some problems with AoL that meant that they were not compatible with Linux based OS's? Anyhow, I agree with Rob about steering clear of Talk Talk unless you want to tie yourself into a, still?, crap Customer Services and a long contract. E You can actually use AOL with a router, it just the screen same plus @aol.co.uk (for instance [EMAIL PROTECTED]) with the password. The AOL software itself isn't required to use the AOL Broadband (and it's possible to use the AOL software with any ISP as long as you subscribe to the AOL service), but frankly I couldn't get away soon enough (after being tied into a 12 month contract when my other half 'upgraded' to the Gold package (I just wanted to leave AOL, but she thought she was doing the right thing by upgrading from 512k to 1 Meg and tying us into another year of AOL!). My dad has Talktalk Broadband (on their supposedly Free Broadband offer which he pays £10 a month for because they haven't unbundled the exchange) and he gets 2.2MBit fixed, no where near 8MBit and he lives literally 30 metres from the exchange. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
Kris Douglas wrote: On 05/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a confession to make... I... I... I use AOL *sob* But it's due to BT being a bunch of [insert chosen expletive]. Where I live I can only get 1/2mb broadband and BT wanted to charge me £27/mth for it. Even though people were getting 8mb for £27! So my only other (unlimited) alternative was AOL, £17/mth and no cap. I have to be honest, in the past few years with them I've had no down time at all. Only fault with them is their God awful AOL browser thing. And you really need to run that thing at least once to set up a decent (secure) log in, I did it that once back when I was dual booting. Not sure if the browser thing runs in WINE, but once you have a secure username and password set you can use a router/modem to do the logging in. I use Linux 24/7 with AOL and it's dandy. But keep it to yourself, don't go telling everyone I use AOL! ;D Quoting Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All, I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep them as a supplier!!! AOL are currently offering a free dell 1520 laptop (now discontinued!) and my wife has suggested taking the broadband offer, selling the laptop and making some cash. I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does anyone have any advice? Cheers, M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG KEY: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xFEA1BC16 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ AOL doesn't actually need anything special, replace the modem they give you, enter the settings and you don't need to use the browser or the stupid login thing for anything. Not sure about now-a-days but they used to give you a crap username that was part of your name (initials I think) and part of your postcode, and the password was something like '1234'. The only way to create a new (decent) username (or to change the password) was through their crappy browser thing... -- Ronnie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.RonnieTucker.co.uk Skype : ronnietucker Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!
BT Voyager routers are commercial products, sold in PC World etc. so they wouldn't be locked into anything... I think it's the ones that BT supply with their broadband as part of the package that are the issue. Personally I prefer the Voyager routers anyway... they're more intuitive to configure to start with... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!
On 01/11/2007, Sean Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BT Voyager routers are commercial products, sold in PC World etc. so they wouldn't be locked into anything... I think it's the ones that BT supply with their broadband as part of the package that are the issue. Indeed. It always amuses me when I see people bitching that their freely supplied router with their broadband package is locked into that supplier. What exactly did they expect for free? If a company supplies you with a free router it's going to be either a. the cheapest of the cheap and nasty b. locked into that supplier c. both. -- Steve When 1 person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!
And to add to that, quite possibly have certain important features made inaccessible - because people can't be trusted to configure their own routers now can they... I wouldn't touch a BT router with someone else's 10 foot pole Pete -- 'In letters of gold, on a snow-white kite, I will write I Love You! And send it soaring high above you, for all to read!' RIP Billy M 1957-1997 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!
Im starting this in the hope of helping myself and maybe others! pooling our knowlegde will be good for the consumer in the end!! Im paying £19.99 for a 2mb connection and unlimited usage. This also includes a phoneline with unlimited calls 24/7. Anyone getting anything better? what you all getting for your money? Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!
STONE COLD wrote: Im starting this in the hope of helping myself and maybe others! pooling our knowlegde will be good for the consumer in the end!! Im paying £19.99 for a 2mb connection and unlimited usage. This also includes a phoneline with unlimited calls 24/7. Anyone getting anything better? what you all getting for your money? Regards Javad Javad. See the BestISP thread. I would recommend that the best thing to do is find the ISP most people recommend - then get prices from there. They vary so much it's probably the best way to do it rather than starting another very similar thread. Andy -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!
Quoting STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Im starting this in the hope of helping myself and maybe others! pooling our knowlegde will be good for the consumer in the end!! Im paying £19.99 for a 2mb connection and unlimited usage. This also includes a phoneline with unlimited calls 24/7. Anyone getting anything better? what you all getting for your money? Regards Javad Is it unlimited or subject to a fair usage policy? I'm with Vivaciti (an Enta reseller) and I'm paying £30 a month inc VAT for 8mbit (this is an office connection so it has higher priority over home connections). I get usage limits of 45GB peak time (8am to 8pm Monday to Friday) and 300GB off peak (after 8pm to 8am and all weekend). Although there are limits they seem to be fairly flexible, if I go over the limit I only have to pay the difference between the package I'm on and the next package up, plus £5 + VAT admin charge. I'd rather have that than have my connection blocked or limited. It's also a 30 day contract. I'd suggest anyone interested in trying Enta, goto www.ukfsn.org as they're an Enta reseller with the same prices and they fund Free Software. I know its not the cheapest connection but I've been stung with *cheap* providers and long contracts before. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!
Rob, Rob Beard wrote: I'm with Vivaciti (an Enta reseller) and I'm paying £30 a month inc VAT for 8mbit (this is an office connection so it has higher priority over home connections). I get usage limits of 45GB peak time (8am to 8pm Monday to Friday) and 300GB off peak (after 8pm to 8am and all weekend). Although there are limits they seem to be fairly flexible, if I go over the limit I only have to pay the difference between the package I'm on and the next package up, plus £5 + VAT admin charge. I'd rather have that than have my connection blocked or limited. It's also a 30 day contract. I'd suggest anyone interested in trying Enta, goto www.ukfsn.org as they're an Enta reseller with the same prices and they fund Free Software. I know its not the cheapest connection but I've been stung with *cheap* providers and long contracts before. This looks interesting. Do you know if they throttle any protocols? Pipex, for example, throttle BitTorrent to 20KB/s which makes it useless! I also assume the allowances are per month. Is there an interface that tells you how much of your allowance you have used? Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 13:49 +, Tony Arnold wrote: Rob, Rob Beard wrote: I'm with Vivaciti (an Enta reseller) This looks interesting. Do you know if they throttle any protocols? Pipex, for example, throttle BitTorrent to 20KB/s which makes it useless! I also assume the allowances are per month. Is there an interface that tells you how much of your allowance you have used? Regards, Tony. Hi Tony I also have an entanet connection which I got through UKlinux (Profits to free software apparently) And yes there is an enternet page your usage, there is also an RSS feed of this data so you can keep an eye on it each day. There is no protocol throttling, at least not with bitTorrent. All in all delighted with both enta and uklinux.net Peter -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!
Peter, peter wrote: On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 13:49 +, Tony Arnold wrote: Rob, Rob Beard wrote: I'm with Vivaciti (an Enta reseller) This looks interesting. Do you know if they throttle any protocols? Pipex, for example, throttle BitTorrent to 20KB/s which makes it useless! I also assume the allowances are per month. Is there an interface that tells you how much of your allowance you have used? Regards, Tony. Hi Tony I also have an entanet connection which I got through UKlinux (Profits to free software apparently) And yes there is an enternet page your usage, there is also an RSS feed of this data so you can keep an eye on it each day. There is no protocol throttling, at least not with bitTorrent. All in all delighted with both enta and uklinux.net Thanks for the information. I've filled in the enquiry form on Entanet's web site and will go from there. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!
Tony Arnold wrote: Rob, Rob Beard wrote: I'm with Vivaciti (an Enta reseller) and I'm paying £30 a month inc VAT for 8mbit (this is an office connection so it has higher priority over home connections). I get usage limits of 45GB peak time (8am to 8pm Monday to Friday) and 300GB off peak (after 8pm to 8am and all weekend). Although there are limits they seem to be fairly flexible, if I go over the limit I only have to pay the difference between the package I'm on and the next package up, plus £5 + VAT admin charge. I'd rather have that than have my connection blocked or limited. It's also a 30 day contract. I'd suggest anyone interested in trying Enta, goto www.ukfsn.org as they're an Enta reseller with the same prices and they fund Free Software. I know its not the cheapest connection but I've been stung with *cheap* providers and long contracts before. This looks interesting. Do you know if they throttle any protocols? Pipex, for example, throttle BitTorrent to 20KB/s which makes it useless! I also assume the allowances are per month. Is there an interface that tells you how much of your allowance you have used? Regards, Tony. I easily get 700K/sec on things like Linux distro downloads on Bit Torrrent, I haven't noticed any throttling on anything else I use. There is an interface at http://billing.enta.net It gives you your peak time usage and your combined peak/off peak usage, it's updated every night (at about 12am I think), so say if I checked my usage now it would display everything up to about 12am this morning, any bandwith used today won't show up until tomorrow. Still it gives you a pretty good idea on how your usage stands. I haven't gone over my limits yet, and Enta let you upgrade your package for free to the next level if it looks like you're going to go over your limits as long as you let them know before you go over. IIRC you can also downgrade to a lower package for free too, although I think there is a £5 + VAT admin charge to change between a home and office connection (so if I wanted to move over to the Home Max connection from my Office Max connection I'd have to pay the £5 + VAT regrade fee), at least I'm pretty certain there is just a £5 + VAT charge. On the home packages you can get 30GB peak and 300GB off peak for about £20 inc VAT and I believe for £30 you can get 60GB peak and 330GB off peak (or something along those lines). I went for the Office Max connection as I prefer the higher upload speed for things like my webmail which is hosted on my home server. I usually schedule bit torrent downloads and big downloads to run in off-peak time, unless I have some allowance to use up near the end of the month and I'll leave it to run all day. Hope this helps. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!
Hey Vivacity Users, I'm considering switching from BT Total Broadband to the MAX Home Allowance 30 GB (300 GB Off Peak) package but I'd like to know how the service has been, exactly. How do you rate the service in comparison with BT Total Broadband? How smooth was the transition from BT? Did they give you your BT Mac Code without any hassle? How long were you left without a broadband connection? Do I need to buy a new router and if so what? Does anyone have any problems with Vivacity? Thanks, Jai On 10/31/07, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Arnold wrote: Rob, Rob Beard wrote: I'm with Vivaciti (an Enta reseller) and I'm paying £30 a month inc VAT for 8mbit (this is an office connection so it has higher priority over home connections). I get usage limits of 45GB peak time (8am to 8pm Monday to Friday) and 300GB off peak (after 8pm to 8am and all weekend). Although there are limits they seem to be fairly flexible, if I go over the limit I only have to pay the difference between the package I'm on and the next package up, plus £5 + VAT admin charge. I'd rather have that than have my connection blocked or limited. It's also a 30 day contract. I'd suggest anyone interested in trying Enta, goto www.ukfsn.org as they're an Enta reseller with the same prices and they fund Free Software. I know its not the cheapest connection but I've been stung with *cheap* providers and long contracts before. This looks interesting. Do you know if they throttle any protocols? Pipex, for example, throttle BitTorrent to 20KB/s which makes it useless! I also assume the allowances are per month. Is there an interface that tells you how much of your allowance you have used? Regards, Tony. I easily get 700K/sec on things like Linux distro downloads on Bit Torrrent, I haven't noticed any throttling on anything else I use. There is an interface at http://billing.enta.net It gives you your peak time usage and your combined peak/off peak usage, it's updated every night (at about 12am I think), so say if I checked my usage now it would display everything up to about 12am this morning, any bandwith used today won't show up until tomorrow. Still it gives you a pretty good idea on how your usage stands. I haven't gone over my limits yet, and Enta let you upgrade your package for free to the next level if it looks like you're going to go over your limits as long as you let them know before you go over. IIRC you can also downgrade to a lower package for free too, although I think there is a £5 + VAT admin charge to change between a home and office connection (so if I wanted to move over to the Home Max connection from my Office Max connection I'd have to pay the £5 + VAT regrade fee), at least I'm pretty certain there is just a £5 + VAT charge. On the home packages you can get 30GB peak and 300GB off peak for about £20 inc VAT and I believe for £30 you can get 60GB peak and 330GB off peak (or something along those lines). I went for the Office Max connection as I prefer the higher upload speed for things like my webmail which is hosted on my home server. I usually schedule bit torrent downloads and big downloads to run in off-peak time, unless I have some allowance to use up near the end of the month and I'll leave it to run all day. Hope this helps. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!
Jai Harrison wrote: Hey Vivacity Users, I'm considering switching from BT Total Broadband to the MAX Home Allowance 30 GB (300 GB Off Peak) package but I'd like to know how the service has been, exactly. How do you rate the service in comparison with BT Total Broadband? I haven't used BT Total Broadband so I can't fully comment, my previous ISP was AOL, but this was using ADSL from BT Wholesale (who sell IIRC provide broadband to BT Retail anyway). In comparison to AOL it was MUCH better. For the same monthly rental I had 4 times higher speeds. How smooth was the transition from BT? My transition from AOL was seamless, it went over the day they said. Did they give you your BT Mac Code without any hassle? Can't comment on that being an ex AOL customer. How long were you left without a broadband connection? When I migrated it went over on the day, I was at work when it happened, all I did was setup the new username and password which was provided by Enta the night before, when I came back from work it was ready. I think the transfer is pretty quick. Do I need to buy a new router and if so what? I think you'll find the existing router will work. I've had a play with a BT Voyager router and it gives you the option of entering a different username and password, it certainly doesn't appear to be locked into BT Total Broadband. Does anyone have any problems with Vivacity? Nope, no problems yet. I've been with them since March this year. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband speeds and prices!
I think you'll find the existing router will work. I've had a play with a BT Voyager router and it gives you the option of entering a different username and password, it certainly doesn't appear to be locked into BT Total Broadband. Oh... one of my pet hates... Actually many of BT Routers have locked firmware that only lets you connect to BT services. Fortunately their attempts at locking them properly have been pretty poor, and most can now new reflashed to free them from BT. Google is your friend. As an aside most of them run Linux... :) I'm having an ongoing battle with a HomeHub, it can be reflashed an freed from BT, but then the snazzy hub phones don't work... argh... Lee. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse
On 3/5/07, Wulfy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin Menneer wrote: On 3/5/07, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know what the make and model of the 'black box' is? Yes. It's labelled Speed Touch 330 made by Thomson Telecom. Try this: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html It worked for me and I have that modem from Tiscali... use the instructions for Dapper if you have Edgy... I've looked at it and it is too advanced for me but I am passing it on to my webmaster in hopes. Many thanks -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse
Having had Orange take five weeks (and dozens of phone calls) to replace their white box after an ordinary lightning strike, I have moved to Eclipse. Their black box works ok with my mac mini but my webmaster tells me that it won't work with Ubuntu on my Compaq laptop (which worked ok with Orange) and that I will have to buy a different box costing in excess of £30. I'm on broadband with non-wireless USB connections. Help please... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse
In the long run you are probably better off owning your own modem/router anyway. They're reasonably cheap (although they are in excess of £30), but what you sacrifice in terms of price you gain in terms of functionality - the reason that many boxes don't work with Linux is because the hardware they contain is unable to do all the work itself - it requires some clever pieces of proprietary software to acheive full function. A normal router (or even just an ADSL modem, which might be a cheap option if you only want 1 port) will work over Ethernet, and all the hard work will be performed by the hardware itself, which is a preferable situation anyway. One option (as hinted above) might be to get an ADSL modem, which will usually have an ethernet port on the back, which you could then swap between your 2 boxes (the mini and the laptop) and then, at a later date, you could buy yourself a router, thus expanding your network. This would allow you to split the cost into 2 smaller outlays. HTH mrben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/03/2007 14:54:52: Having had Orange take five weeks (and dozens of phone calls) to replace their white box after an ordinary lightning strike, I have moved to Eclipse. Their black box works ok with my mac mini but my webmaster tells me that it won't work with Ubuntu on my Compaq laptop (which worked ok with Orange) and that I will have to buy a different box costing in excess of £30. I'm on broadband with non-wireless USB connections. Help please... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse
Hi Robin, Did 'webmaster' tell you why it will not work with Ubuntu? Do you know what the make and model of the 'black box' is? Does this 'black box' have a network cable port (RJ-45) (pic: http://www.offspringtech.com/images/big/COUPL-RJ45.jpg). It's bigger than a normal telephone connection. If so, that is definitely the preferable option. Kind Regards, Daviey On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 14:54 +, Robin Menneer wrote: Having had Orange take five weeks (and dozens of phone calls) to replace their white box after an ordinary lightning strike, I have moved to Eclipse. Their black box works ok with my mac mini but my webmaster tells me that it won't work with Ubuntu on my Compaq laptop (which worked ok with Orange) and that I will have to buy a different box costing in excess of £30. I'm on broadband with non-wireless USB connections. Help please... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse
On 3/5/07, Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the long run you are probably better off owning your own modem/router anyway. They're reasonably cheap (although they are in excess of £30), but what you sacrifice in terms of price you gain in terms of functionality - the reason that many boxes don't work with Linux is because the hardware they contain is unable to do all the work itself - it requires some clever pieces of proprietary software to acheive full function. A normal router (or even just an ADSL modem, which might be a cheap option if you only want 1 port) will work over Ethernet, and all the hard work will be performed by the hardware itself, which is a preferable situation anyway. Am being a bit dumb. I need (and will need) only one connection to the web so shouild I get a router or an ADSL modem or what ? and do I presume Belbin is ok although they have a lousy power plug socket in the USB dock which I have. We are prone to lightning here and I take care to disconnect the phone socket but obviously would rather be protected electronically. Thanks for your interest. One option (as hinted above) might be to get an ADSL modem, which will usually have an ethernet port on the back, which you could then swap between your 2 boxes (the mini and the laptop) and then, at a later date, you could buy yourself a router, thus expanding your network. This would allow you to split the cost into 2 smaller outlays. HTH mrben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/03/2007 14:54:52: Having had Orange take five weeks (and dozens of phone calls) to replace their white box after an ordinary lightning strike, I have moved to Eclipse. Their black box works ok with my mac mini but my webmaster tells me that it won't work with Ubuntu on my Compaq laptop (which worked ok with Orange) and that I will have to buy a different box costing in excess of £30. I'm on broadband with non-wireless USB connections. Help please... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse
On 3/5/07, Samuel Toogood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin Menneer wrote: On 3/5/07, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Robin, Did 'webmaster' tell you why it will not work with Ubuntu? No ! Do you know what the make and model of the 'black box' is? Yes. It's labelled Speed Touch 330 made by Thomson Telecom. T Does this 'black box' have a network cable port (RJ-45) (pic: http://www.offspringtech.com/images/big/COUPL-RJ45.jpg). It's bigger than a normal telephone connection. If so, that is definitely the preferable option. It has two connections: a tiny plug to the landline and a cable with a USB plug on the other to the computer, and is working on my mac as I type. Kind Regards, Daviey On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 14:54 +, Robin Menneer wrote: Having had Orange take five weeks (and dozens of phone calls) to replace their white box after an ordinary lightning strike, I have moved to Eclipse. Their black box works ok with my mac mini but my webmaster tells me that it won't work with Ubuntu on my Compaq laptop (which worked ok with Orange) and that I will have to buy a different box costing in excess of £30. I'm on broadband with non-wireless USB connections. Help please... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ An ADSL router is better (more reliable, can connect more than one computer at once etc), but you should be able to use the box you've been given. Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo. Hope this helps, Sam Thank you. I've had a look at it and it's a bit complicated for me so I'll pass it on to my webmaster. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse
Robin Menneer wrote: On 3/5/07, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know what the make and model of the 'black box' is? Yes. It's labelled Speed Touch 330 made by Thomson Telecom. Try this: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html It worked for me and I have that modem from Tiscali... use the instructions for Dapper if you have Edgy... -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
