Re: [uknof] CGNAT Solutions

[Leo Vegoda]

On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 09:16, Paul Mansfield  wrote:

[...]

> Mobile phone networks have managed to obsolete 2G and 3G devices,
> pushing for 4G-only and probably one day 5G-only. We've also got Wifi6
> labelling.

This is because they have much more control of the client devices. A
huge proportion of users get their phones from their network operator
or an MVNO with aligned interests.

So, if a network wants to shut off an older protocol they can directly
influence the number of devices using it and minimise the negative
consumer backlash. A consumer ISP cannot control the light bulbs,
laptops, or games consoles subscribers use.

> I think the key part is educating consumers to stop buying  that
> hasn't got a "IPv6 Compatible" label on it. That begs the question,
> who would be the right industry bodies to provide testing suites and
> services for this certification and lab services?

The IPv6 Forum did this for ages. But consumers don't care. They buy
based on functionality and price, not protocol politics.

Re: [uknof] PlayStation Network problems

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 05:29, Glenn Garrett via uknof
 wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
>
>
> We have around 1200 broadband subscribers on our 185.207.140.0/22 address 
> block and since around 24 June we’ve had many customers report not being able 
> to access the PlayStation Network plus one report of a PC Steam/Rockstar 
> problem (screenshots attached). All other aspects of their Internet 
> connections work fine.

https://geolocatemuch.com/?resource=185.207.140.0/22 suggests that you
don't have a geofeed for your addresses.

10 of the 12 geoip services providers listed there support the format
and they all seem to be working towards automation.

If you can do one thing to reduce geoip problems in the future, it is
probably producing a geofeed file for providers to ingest.

https://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/geo-and-vpn/ is also worth
looking at for contact information for specific content providers. But
sadly not Playstation.

Regards,

Leo

[uknof] Your input sought on PeeringDB's Network Type field

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

PeeringDB's Product Committee wants your input on whether the Network
Type field is useful. Should it go? Should it change?

We have published a very short blog post describing the options and
linking to the survey.

https://docs.peeringdb.com/blog/network_type_your_input_sought/

Your input will influence our decision.

Thanks,

Leo Vegoda for PeeringDB's Product Committee

Re: [uknof] Eurostar and tools

[Leo Vegoda]

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 06:40, John Dickinson  wrote:

[...]

> This is the advice from the gov.uk site.
>
> https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-to-france-for-work
>
> "Certain types of work and activities do not require a visa or permit
> because they’re exempt.
> ...
>
> auditors and other experts in architecture, engineering, finance,
> insurance, IT and management working on assignment"

But you are always at the discretion of individual border
agents/police. They can always choose to look more closely if they
want.

Regards,

Leo

[uknof] Times for UKNOF51 in Manchester

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

UKNOF51 in Manchester will run over two days.

We will start in the afternoon on Monday, 3 April. Tuesday, 4 April
will be a full day.

If you want to speak, there is still time to propose a talk to the PC.
And you can also speak to the PC if you think they should approach
someone to give a talk. The CfP is at:

https://indico.uknof.org.uk/event/62/abstracts/

And you can contact the PC on their list (p...@lists.uknof.org.uk) or
contact a member directly:

https://www.uknof.org.uk/about-us/programme-committee/

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda, for the UKNOF Comms Committee

Re: [uknof] Typical last mile battery runtime (protecting against power cuts)

[Leo Vegoda]

On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 12:05, Israel G. Lugo  wrote:

[...]

> Question is, how much battery runtime can I typically expect from ISPs'
> last mile infra. I was hoping some of you here might help estimate from
> own experience.

Ofcom ran a consultation on this in 2011. They suggested a minimum of
one hour battery backup. My reading is that that is what they went
with but the Ofcom site doesn't make that sparklingly clear, so I
could be wrong. I'm also not sure if whatever obligation they came up
with in 2011 has been updated.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations-and-statements/category-1/superfast-broadband

[uknof] Speak at UKNOF51 in Manchester

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

You can now submit proposals for talks at UKNOF51 in Manchester.

We have a blog post about the CfP here for anyone who's been working
on interesting projects but hasn't spoken at a UKNOF before.

https://www.uknof.org.uk/2022/11/speak-at-uknof51-in-manchester/

The CfP itself is on our Indico event management site:

https://indico.uknof.org.uk/event/62/abstracts/

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda, for the UKNOF Comms Committee

[uknof] 2022 PeeringDB User Survey

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF community,

PeeringDB is currently running its annual user survey. If you use
PeeringDB, please take the survey. If you have colleagues or contacts
who use PeeringDB, please encourage them to take the survey.

https://surveyhero.com/c/pdb22uk

Your input, through the survey, is vital in working out where we
should direct our energy.

Many thanks,

Leo Vegoda for PeeringDB

[uknof] UKNOF50 Event Report Published

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF Community,

We have published the UKNOF50 Event Report. You can read it and see
galleries of pictures at:

https://www.uknof.org.uk/2022/09/uknof50-event-report/

Please join in giving us feedback and helping us improve by taking our survey:

https://uknof.uk/survey50

We are grateful to the sponsors and patrons who made UKNOF50 possible.

- Our Deluxe Sponsor was ISC – who is also a PROMOTER Patron
- Our Associate sponsors were, Drivenets, IPv4.Global – who is also a
PROMOTER Patron, and LONAP.
- Our 2022 Principal Patrons are A10 and FLEXOPTIX
- Our 2022 Premium Patrons are DE-CIX, IPv4 Market Group, and RIPE NCC
- Our 2022 Promoter Patrons are IPv4.Global by Hilco Streambank, and ISC

We’d also like to thank our partners Bogons and Portfast, and Friends of UKNOF.

We are planning an exciting UKNOF51 in Manchester on 3 and 4 April 2023.

More details will be published at https://www.uknof.org.uk/events/uknof51/ soon.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
for the UKNOF Communications Committee

[uknof] RIPE NCC survey for NOG participants

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

The RIPE NCC is running a survey of people who participate in NOGs.
You can complete the survey in just a couple of minutes. We'd love you
to take it:

https://ripe-ncc.typeform.com/to/SjgKEKSx

Many thanks,

Leo Vegoda for the UKNOF Comms Committee

[uknof] Register now for UKNOF50

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

UKNOF50 will take place on 22 September and 15Hatfields in London.
We'd like everyone who'll attend to get their tickets before the
prices rise on 1 September. If you want to attend then please register
before next Thursday.

Event information and links to registration are published at:

https://www.uknof.org.uk/events/uknof50/

We have made some tickets available for free to help those who could
not otherwise afford to attend.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda for the UKNOF Comms Committee

[uknof] Please take the RIPE NCC's NOG Participants Survey

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

In cooperation with NOGs across the region, the RIPE NCC has organised
a survey for people who participate in NOGs. If you are a subscriber
to this list or have attended a UKNOF event, please take the survey:

https://ripe-ncc.typeform.com/to/SjgKEKSx

This survey will help NOG organisers improve their NOGs and deliver a
better experience for everyone.

Many thanks,

Leo Vegoda for the UKNOF Comms Committee

[uknof] What should be included in a welcome pack for newcomers?

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF community,

You, the UKNOF community, suggested that new UKNOF attendees should be
made more welcome. Our first step towards this is to produce a simple
“First Time Attendee” document for UKNOF50 in September.

- If you have attended many past UKNOF events, what’s the single best
advice you would pass on?
- If you’ve only attended a few previous events, what would you have
liked to know before attending?
- If you haven’t attended an event before, what’s your biggest worry
or what do you think you’ll get out of the event and how can this be
maximised?

Please send your ideas to c...@lists.uknof.org.uk by Friday, 24 June.
Your advice will help people whose first UKNOF will be UKNOF50 in
September.

Many thanks,

Leo Vegoda for the UKNOF Comms Committee

[uknof] UKNOF50 Retrospective Competition - and a CfP

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF community,

UKNOF50 will take place on Thursday, 22 September 2022.

https://www.uknof.org.uk/events/uknof50/

This is UKNOFs golden event, so we will be looking back and need your help.
- What is your favourite UKNOF memory?
- What is your favourite UKNOF talk or who is your favourite speaker?
- What friendships or acquaintanceships have started at a UKNOF event?

Please feel free to share any photos that you think would be relevant
to looking back. Please send your contributions to
c...@lists.uknof.org.uk.

This may be UKNOF50 and though 50 is special, there’s actually been
more than 50 UKNOF events, so there’ll be a small prize for the person
that gets the correct number and the best answer (in the view of the
Comms Committee).

https://forms.gle/tgJNoBCtb67kZe8e6

Some exciting proposals for talks at UKNOF50 have already been
submitted, but the CfP is still open and your talk could be next.

https://uknof.uk/cfp50

Many thanks,

Leo Vegoda for the UKNOF Comms Committee

[uknof] UKNOF49 Event Report Published

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF Community,

We have published the UKNOF49 Event Report. You can read it and
galleries of pictures at:

https://www.uknof.org.uk/2022/04/uknof49-event-report/

Please join in giving us feedback and helping us improve by taking our survey:

https://uknof.uk/survey49

We are grateful to our Associate Sponsor Axians/Juniper. We are also
grateful to our contributor sponsors, DE-CIX, IPv4.Global by Hilco
Streambank, smartoptics and Xantaro.

And we are grateful to our 2022 corporate patrons:

- A10 Networks and FLEXOPTIX as PRINCIPAL patrons
- IPv4 Market Group and RIPE NCC as PREMIUM patrons
- Internet Systems Consortium and IPv4.Global by Hilco Streambank as
PROMOTER patrons

We’d also like to thank our partners Bogons and Portfast, and Friends of UKNOF.

We are planning an exciting UKNOF50 in London around 22 September.
More details will be published at
https://www.uknof.org.uk/events/uknof50/ soon.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
for the UKNOF Communications Committee

[uknof] UKNOF49 Event Survey

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

We hope you enjoyed UKNOF49 whether you participated in Manchester or
online. We need your help in improving for UKNOF50. We have a three
question survey so you can share your thoughts with us:

https://uknof.uk/survey49

Many thanks,

Leo Vegoda for the UKNOF Communications Committeee

[uknof] How do we fund UKNOF?

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

We have published a blog post describing UKNOF's costs and how it is
funded. It provides some key numbers and introduces a plan we are
developing, to introduce ticket subscriptions. We'd like your input:

https://www.uknof.org.uk/2022/03/how-do-we-fund-uknof/

You're welcome to speak with board members in Manchester, today. Or
you can send your thoughts to bo...@uknof.org.uk or this list.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda for the UKNOF Communications Committee

[uknof] UKNOF49 Registration is Open

[Leo Vegoda]

UKNOF49 registration has opened. All the information is now on the event page:

https://www.uknof.org.uk/events/uknof49/

You can see details of the confirmed talks. The full agenda will be
published after the Programme Committee has reviewed the final
submissions.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda for the UKNOF Communications Committee

Re: [uknof] virtualUKNOF Panel on Hybrid Meetings

[Leo Vegoda]

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 6:40 AM Leo Vegoda  wrote:
>
> We are pleased to announce an exciting panel about what NOG and other
> industry events across the world have learned about running hybrid
> events over the last year. It will look at the technical, social and
> organisational impacts of making our industry's events successful as
> speakers and participants increasingly join over the Internet as well
> as in person.

We have now published an event report:

https://www.uknof.org.uk/2022/03/virtualuknofmarch2022eventreport/

We had a great discussion, so if you missed the event, keep an eye on
https://www.youtube.com/user/UKNOFconf/videos for the recording.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda for the UKNOF Communications Committee

[uknof] virtualUKNOF Panel on Hybrid Meetings

[Leo Vegoda]

We are pleased to announce an exciting panel about what NOG and other
industry events across the world have learned about running hybrid
events over the last year. It will look at the technical, social and
organisational impacts of making our industry's events successful as
speakers and participants increasingly join over the Internet as well
as in person.

The panel will be chaired by the RIPE Chair, Mirjam Kühne and will
include a panel of representatives from UKNOF, NANOG, RIPE, NLNOG, and
AV Department.

1 March, 2022 at 15:00 UTC.

Free registration is available at
https://virtualuknof-march2022.eventbrite.co.uk/

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda for the UKNOF Communications Committee

[uknof] UKNOF48 Event Report Published

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF Community,

We have published the UKNOF48 Event Report. You can read it and see
the gallery of pictures at
https://www.uknof.org.uk/uknof48eventreport/

We are grateful to LONAP for sponsoring and also grateful to our 2021
corporate patrons: FLEXOPTIX, IPv4 Market Group and RIPE NCC as
PREMIUM patrons, with Internet Systems Consortium and Secrutiny as
PROMOTER patrons. We’d also like to thank our partners Bogons and
Portfast, and Friends of UKNOF.

We are planning an exciting virtualUKNOF for Tuesday, 1 March 2022.
More news coming soon!

UKNOF49 will take place in Manchester on Tuesday, 12 April 2022. The
event page, with a link to the UKNOF49 Call for Presentations site is:
https://www.uknof.org.uk/events/uknof49/

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
for the UKNOF Communications Committee

[uknof] Your photographs from UKNOF48

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

We will be publishing the event report from UKNOF48 early next week.
It will include a photo gallery from the event and we'd love to
include your photos in it.

If you attended, took photos, and would be happy to share them in our
event report on www.uknof.org.uk then please send me (off list) a copy
of your photos.

Many thanks,

Leo for the UKNOF Communications Committee

Re: [uknof] Thoughts on IETF "Unicast Use of the Formerly Reserved 127/8"?

[Leo Vegoda]

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:08 AM Matthew Walster  wrote:

[...]

> I'm just saying that screaming "IPv6 is the answer, deploy it" is actually 
> forgetting that it doesn't actually reduce IPv4 usage in and of itself, which 
> is the goal.

I don't think that is the goal. Or, in any case, it's not the most
significant goal. I think the end goal is to make sure that everyone
on the planet who wants it, can have reliable Internet communications.
They should be able to do anything and everything possible on the
Internet, whatever that is.

There are likely to be 10b people on the planet soon enough. Fitting
everyone into a 32-bit address space might well be possible but it is
unlikely to be comfortable. That's why I think putting effort into
IPv6 deployment is worthwhile. It should make everyone's life a bit
simpler than trying to debug what's going on through multiple layers
of translation.

Re: [uknof] Thoughts on IETF "Unicast Use of the Formerly Reserved 127/8"?

[Leo Vegoda]

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 8:06 AM Matthew Walster  wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 at 15:04, Leo Vegoda  wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 6:05 AM Tim Chown  wrote:
>> > Personally, I’d say just get on with IPv6.
>> This gets my vote.
>
> So... This is tricky. IPv4 isn't going away for residential and most SME 
> connectivity -- it's just too difficult to live without, and too entrenched 
> in the psyche of the IT tech support PFY.

[continues well argued point]

Yes, but there's a distinct difference between not rushing to remove
RFC 1918 address space from most home and office networks and putting
lots of effort into trying to make some other, previously reserved,
IPv4 space reliable enough that it can be uniquely registered to
various network operators.

Re: [uknof] Thoughts on IETF "Unicast Use of the Formerly Reserved 127/8"?

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 6:05 AM Tim Chown  wrote:

[...]

> Personally, I’d say just get on with IPv6.

This gets my vote.

> Sure, some more gunk can be found in the bottom of the IPv4 barrel, but it
> won’t last long, and is only delaying the inevitable.  Of course, a more 
> cynical
> person might point out the value of the Class E block at even $10/IP, and the
> market implications of opening it up, and who would benefit from that.

The authors of these drafts are looking at the issue from a technical
perspective. But there's also the policy issue to consider. If the
IETF ever did reclassify these various bits and pieces as Unicast
IPv4, there would need to be a new Global Policy (that's a term of art
for one that gives instructions to IANA) and the RIRs would also need
allocation policies for the new space, which they have been removing
as they switch to registering transfers.

Historically, Global Policies have taken about 18 months to get
consensus in all five RIRs and then be ratified by the ICANN Board.
But I don't think we could count on a policy directing IANA to
allocate new IPv4 Unicast space to the RIRs to get a smooth ride in
all five RIR communities.

I wouldn't want to guess how long it would take to get all the policy
pieces agreed and implemented.

Re: [uknof] Thoughts on IETF "Unicast Use of the Formerly Reserved 127/8"?

[Leo Vegoda]

On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 4:50 AM Peter Robinson  wrote:
>
> Hey All,
>
> So I was recently made aware of the IETF draft to change the

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wkumari-not-a-draft-14

It is the authors' draft, not the IETF's draft.

> reservation from 127/8 to 127.0/16 and was just wondering what the
> general thoughts were?
>
> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-schoen-intarea-unicast-127-00.html

I think it's never going to happen.

[uknof] Live stream for UKNOF48

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF Community,

A live stream of UKNOF48 will be freely available from
http://www.uknof.org.uk/webcast on Thursday, 18 November and Friday, 19
November.

The full agenda, including start times for each talk, is at
https://uknof.uk/48. The welcome talk starts at 14:00 UTC on Thursday and
Friday's first talk is at 09:30 UTC. We will place calendar invites in
Mattermost, so you can add it to your calendars.

The stream will use YouTube, so you will be able to watch it on mobile
devices.

You will be able to chat with people in the room and ask questions on our
Mattermost chat server: https://chat.uknof.org.uk/ The chat will be in the
main "UKNOF" channel (https://chat.uknof.org.uk/public/channels/town-square)
and the dedicated questions channel is "48: Questions" (
https://chat.uknof.org.uk/public/channels/uknof48qns).

We look forward to seeing you in Manchester and online!

Leo Vegoda for the UKNOF Communications Committee

Re: [uknof] Some recollections from the MTV Europe Music Awards 1996

[Leo Vegoda]

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 3:46 PM Steve Karmeinsky  wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 03:31:18PM -0800 or thereabouts, Leo Vegoda wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 4:43 PM Steve Karmeinsky  wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > In 2000 Demon also netcast the first Big Brother (Nasty Nick) with BT and 
> > > I think at peak there were 34,000 streams (17K
> > > each) which was the largest netcast at the time (also using Real Networks 
> > > streaming tech).
> > > Shame Demon never took full advantage of the free 2 streams (in 
> > > perpetuity) that each customer could have.
> > I didn't understand what people could usefully achieve with two
> > streams when they were made available and I still don't. I'd love to
> > understand what opportunity was missed.
>
> This was befoire streaming/MP3/etc became popular, so anyone with a
> website on Demon could host some form of audio that was streamed (rather
> than downloaded via http).

I know. I remember. I didn't understand then how just two streams was
in any way useful. I still don't. I always considered it too little
scale for too much effort.

Re: [uknof] Some recollections from the MTV Europe Music Awards 1996

[Leo Vegoda]

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 4:43 PM Steve Karmeinsky  wrote:

[...]

> In 2000 Demon also netcast the first Big Brother (Nasty Nick) with BT and I 
> think at peak there were 34,000 streams (17K
> each) which was the largest netcast at the time (also using Real Networks 
> streaming tech).
>
> Shame Demon never took full advantage of the free 2 streams (in perpetuity) 
> that each customer could have.

I didn't understand what people could usefully achieve with two
streams when they were made available and I still don't. I'd love to
understand what opportunity was missed.

[uknof] UKNOF 2021 Annual Meeting

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

Our 2021 Annual Meeting will take place after UKNOF48. Everyone in the
UKNOF community is welcome to attend, whether in person or by Zoom.

You'll need to register so we can make sure we have a seat for you in
the room, or send you a personalised URL to the Zoom room.

Details of how to register and a link to the agenda are here:

https://www.uknof.org.uk/uknof-annual-meeting-2021/

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda for the UKNOF Communications Committee

[uknof] Blog on UKNOF48 Social Programming

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

We've just published a blog post about the social programming for UKNOF48.

https://www.uknof.org.uk/making-uknof48-a-social-occasion/

We currently have 80 people registered to attend at Manchester Central
and free registration continues to be available during the weekend. If
you want to attend and have not yet registered we encourage you to
register for free over the weekend.

Registrations will be charged at £50 + VAT and the Eventbrite fee from Monday.

If you are unable to attend, you'll be able to watch the live stream
for free and do not need to register. You'll be able to chat and ask
questions via Mattermost.

KInd regards,

Leo Vegoda
for the UKNOF Communications Committee

Re: [uknof] UKNOF48 - What Will be Different?

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi Tom,

On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 12:33 PM Tom Hill  wrote:
> On 03/11/2021 17:12, Tom Hill wrote:
> > I suspect it would be very pertinent to shout loudly and clearly, on
> > this list (as opposed to in a blog post) about the requirement to prove
> > your COVID-19 vaccination status as a condition of entry to the event.
>
> And yes, I realised after sending this that Leo had written that into a
> communication about the event a few weeks ago.
>
> I should revise the point to state that it would be best to include this
> in *every* communication to the list, given that it's a) very different
> to how things were, and b) not everyone reads or remembers every email
> to the list. :)

This is useful feedback. Thanks!

It's hard to know how to get the balance right between reaching
everyone who'd like to attend and people missing other important
things because they see the same message again and stop reading. That
said, we have this published on the event web page, the Indico site,
in the registration agreement, and in one of the two blog posts.

Kind regards,

Leo

Re: [uknof] UKNOF48 - COVID-19 Protocol

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF community,

We're about to open registration for UKNOF48. For anyone coming to
Manchester, registration will be free until Sunday, 7 November. There
will be a fee for late registrations.

We've published a blog post about this and how people can participate
over the Internet if they cannot be in Manchester.

https://www.uknof.org.uk/preparing-for-uknof48/

If you want to meet industry colleagues in Manchester at UKNOF48,
please register early.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
for the UKNOF Communications Committee

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 12:35 PM Leo Vegoda  wrote:
>
> Dear UKNOF community,
>
> We have updated the UKNOF48 event page with details of the COVID-19
> protocol we will be following. Full details and links to resources can
> be found on the page at:
>
> https://www.uknof.org.uk/events/uknof48/
>
> In summary:
> - You must be able to provide proof that you are fully vaccinated to attend.
> - Manchester Central benefits from a continuous flow of fresh air,
> drawn from outside. It complies with the latest CIBSE and HSE
> guidelines.
> - We strongly encourage people attending to take a Lateral Flow Test
> on the day of the event and wear masks.
>
> More information about registration and the two-day agenda will be
> shared in the coming days.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Leo Vegoda for the Communications Committee
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 7:17 AM Leo Vegoda  wrote:
> >
> > Dear UKNOF Community,
> >
> > UKNOF48 will take place at Manchester Central on the afternoon of
> > Thursday, 18 November and morning of Friday, 19 November 2021. The
> > Annual Meeting will take place on Friday afternoon.
> >
> > The Call for Presentations is now open. We will continue to publish
> > updates about the event, including registration details and agenda, on
> > its page at: https://www.uknof.org.uk/events/uknof48/
> >
> > The Program Committee actively works with people interested in
> > speaking at UKNOF events. If you have a question, you can contact them
> > at p...@lists.uknof.org.uk.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Leo Vegoda
> > for the UKNOF Communications Committee

Re: [uknof] UKNOF48 - COVID-19 Protocol

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF community,

We have updated the UKNOF48 event page with details of the COVID-19
protocol we will be following. Full details and links to resources can
be found on the page at:

https://www.uknof.org.uk/events/uknof48/

In summary:
- You must be able to provide proof that you are fully vaccinated to attend.
- Manchester Central benefits from a continuous flow of fresh air,
drawn from outside. It complies with the latest CIBSE and HSE
guidelines.
- We strongly encourage people attending to take a Lateral Flow Test
on the day of the event and wear masks.

More information about registration and the two-day agenda will be
shared in the coming days.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda for the Communications Committee


On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 7:17 AM Leo Vegoda  wrote:
>
> Dear UKNOF Community,
>
> UKNOF48 will take place at Manchester Central on the afternoon of
> Thursday, 18 November and morning of Friday, 19 November 2021. The
> Annual Meeting will take place on Friday afternoon.
>
> The Call for Presentations is now open. We will continue to publish
> updates about the event, including registration details and agenda, on
> its page at: https://www.uknof.org.uk/events/uknof48/
>
> The Program Committee actively works with people interested in
> speaking at UKNOF events. If you have a question, you can contact them
> at p...@lists.uknof.org.uk.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Leo Vegoda
> for the UKNOF Communications Committee

[uknof] UKNOF48 - CfP

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF Community,

UKNOF48 will take place at Manchester Central on the afternoon of
Thursday, 18 November and morning of Friday, 19 November 2021. The
Annual Meeting will take place on Friday afternoon.

The Call for Presentations is now open. We will continue to publish
updates about the event, including registration details and agenda, on
its page at: https://www.uknof.org.uk/events/uknof48/

The Program Committee actively works with people interested in
speaking at UKNOF events. If you have a question, you can contact them
at p...@lists.uknof.org.uk.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
for the UKNOF Communications Committee

Re: [uknof] Invitation to contribute to PeeringDB’s 2021 user survey

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

The survey will close at the end of this week.

Your input is vital in prioritising PeeringDB development, so if
you're a user, please answer the questions that are relevant to you
and leave comments where you think they'd be helpful.

Thanks,

Leo

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 8:27 AM Leo Vegoda  wrote:
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> PeeringDB is currently running its 2021 user survey. We want input from 
> network operators, exchange operators, facility providers, content 
> distributors and anyone who uses our interconnection database. Your responses 
> are anonymous and we’ll use them to develop our 2022 product roadmap.
>
> Responses are welcome until 23:59 UTC on Friday, 8 October 2021: 
> https://surveyhero.com/c/peeringdb2021usersurvey
>
> Over 200 people responded to last year’s survey. Those responses led to us 
> making significant improvements to search and introducing a new HOWTO 
> documentation series. In this year’s survey we have added a few extra 
> questions about documentation priorities, notifications, and user experience 
> on mobile devices.
>
> Many thanks for your help in improving PeeringDB!
>
> Leo Vegoda
> for PeeringDB's Product Committee

[uknof] Invitation to contribute to PeeringDB’s 2021 user survey

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear colleagues,

PeeringDB is currently running its 2021 user survey. We want input from network 
operators, exchange operators, facility providers, content distributors and 
anyone who uses our interconnection database. Your responses are anonymous and 
we’ll use them to develop our 2022 product roadmap.

Responses are welcome until 23:59 UTC on Friday, 8 October 2021: 
https://surveyhero.com/c/peeringdb2021usersurvey

Over 200 people responded to last year’s survey. Those responses led to us 
making significant improvements to search and introducing a new HOWTO 
documentation series. In this year’s survey we have added a few extra questions 
about documentation priorities, notifications, and user experience on mobile 
devices.

Many thanks for your help in improving PeeringDB!

Leo Vegoda
for PeeringDB's Product Committee

Re: [uknof] virtualUKNOF August 2021 Event Report Published

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

We have updated the report with links to videos of the talks.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
for the UKNOF Communications Committee

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 11:30 AM Leo Vegoda  wrote:
>
> Dear UKNOF Community,
>
> We have published the virtualUKNOF August 2021 Event Report. You can read it 
> at
> https://www.uknof.org.uk/virtualuknof-august-2021-event-report/
>
> We would love your feedback about the meeting, and a reminder that the
> survey will be closing soon. It should not take more than 30 seconds
> of your time and we would appreciate your input:
>
> https://uknof.uk/survey202108
>
> We are grateful to LONAP for sponsoring and also grateful to our 2021
> corporate patrons: Flexoptix, IPv4 Market Group and RIPE NCC as
> PREMIUM patrons, with Internet Systems Consortium and Secrutiny as
> PROMOTER patrons. We’d also like to thank our partners Bogons and
> Portfast, and Friends of UKNOF.
>
> We are grateful to LONAP for sponsoring virtualUKNOF August 2021. We
> are also grateful to our 2021 corporate patrons: Flexoptix, IPv4
> Market Group and RIPE NCC as PREMIUM patrons, with Internet Systems
> Consortium and Secrutiny as PROMOTER patrons. We’d also like to thank
> our partners Bogons and Portfast, and Friends of UKNOF.
>
> UKNOF48 is being planned as a hybrid in-person and Internet event for
> November 2021. The Call for Presentations will open soon, and if you
> are interested in presenting at the next or a subsequent UKNOF, you
> will be able to submit your proposal via our Call for Presentations
> site.
>
> If you'd like to shape the future of UKNOF, please remember that we
> are recruiting for both the Programme and Communications Committees.
> If you'd like to join either, please drop a note to
> cha...@uknof.org.uk.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Leo Vegoda
> for the UKNOF Communications Committee

[uknof] virtualUKNOF August 2021 Event Report Published

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF Community,

We have published the virtualUKNOF August 2021 Event Report. You can read it at
https://www.uknof.org.uk/virtualuknof-august-2021-event-report/

We would love your feedback about the meeting, and a reminder that the
survey will be closing soon. It should not take more than 30 seconds
of your time and we would appreciate your input:

https://uknof.uk/survey202108

We are grateful to LONAP for sponsoring and also grateful to our 2021
corporate patrons: Flexoptix, IPv4 Market Group and RIPE NCC as
PREMIUM patrons, with Internet Systems Consortium and Secrutiny as
PROMOTER patrons. We’d also like to thank our partners Bogons and
Portfast, and Friends of UKNOF.

We are grateful to LONAP for sponsoring virtualUKNOF August 2021. We
are also grateful to our 2021 corporate patrons: Flexoptix, IPv4
Market Group and RIPE NCC as PREMIUM patrons, with Internet Systems
Consortium and Secrutiny as PROMOTER patrons. We’d also like to thank
our partners Bogons and Portfast, and Friends of UKNOF.

UKNOF48 is being planned as a hybrid in-person and Internet event for
November 2021. The Call for Presentations will open soon, and if you
are interested in presenting at the next or a subsequent UKNOF, you
will be able to submit your proposal via our Call for Presentations
site.

If you'd like to shape the future of UKNOF, please remember that we
are recruiting for both the Programme and Communications Committees.
If you'd like to join either, please drop a note to
cha...@uknof.org.uk.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
for the UKNOF Communications Committee

Re: [uknof] New UKNOF Website

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi Edward,

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 7:46 AM Edward Dore
 wrote:
>
> Hi Leo,
>
> The new site looks nice :) Any plans to import the events archive from the 
> old site?

We don't have immediate plans to do that although it would be nice to
move everything over eventually.

> Just FYI, https://www.uknof.org.uk goes to the new site, but 
> https://uknof.org.uk goes to a Mythic Beasts default page - looks like the 
> virtual host needs mapping.

Thanks for alerting us. We will get the configuration updated.

Many thanks,

Leo

[uknof] New UKNOF Website

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF community,

We recently launched an updated UKNOF website.

We are grateful to Mike Hughes and Chriss Russell who both made significant
contributions to the new site.

All content on the old site remains available at https://old.uknof.org.uk.
The new site has an events section, which currently has information about
the virtualUKNOF scheduled for Tuesday, 3 August. It also has a blog, which
we will use for event reports and community-focused content.

It is always a challenge to launch a new site. If you notice anything that
needs to be fixed, please let the Communications Committee know at
c...@uknof.org.uk.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda for the UKNOF Communications Committee

[uknof] CfP+: virtualUKNOF August 2021

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF Community,

We will be holding a short form virtualUKNOF on Tuesday, 3 August
2021. The Call for more than presentations is now open. As well as
presentation, we are seeking proposals for:
- Interviews
- Panels
- Posters
- Innovative formats we have not thought of

You can find more information on how to submit a proposal and register
for the event at:

https://uknof.uk/virtualAugust2021

The Program Committee actively works with people interested in
speaking at UKNOF events. If you have a question, you can contact them
at p...@lists.uknof.org.uk.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
for the UKNOF Communications Committee

Re: [uknof] UKNOF47 Event Report Published

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

Edited videos of the talks have now been uploaded. We have updated the
report with links to the recordings.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
for the UKNOF Communications Committee

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 7:02 AM Leo Vegoda  wrote:
>
> Dear UKNOF Community,
>
> We have published the UKNOF47 Event Report. You can read it at
> https://uknof.uk/report47
>
> We are grateful to Team Cymru and LONAP for sponsoring UKNOF47. We are
> also grateful to our 2021 corporate patrons: Flexoptix, IPv4 Market
> Group and RIPE NCC as PREMIUM patrons, with Internet Systems
> Consortium and Secrutiny as PROMOTER patrons. We’d also like to thank
> our partners Bogons and Portfast, and Friends of UKNOF.
>
> UKNOF48 is being planned as a hybrid in-person and Internet event for
> the autumn of 2021. The Call for Presentations will open soon, and if
> you are interested in presenting at the next or a subsequent UKNOF,
> you will be able to submit your proposal via our Call for
> Presentations site.
>
> If you'd like to shape the future of UKNOF, please remember that we
> are recruiting for both the Programme and Communications Committees.
> If you'd like to join either, please drop a note to
> cha...@uknof.org.uk.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Leo Vegoda
> for the UKNOF Communications Committee

[uknof] UKNOF47 Event Report Published

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF Community,

We have published the UKNOF47 Event Report. You can read it at
https://uknof.uk/report47

We are grateful to Team Cymru and LONAP for sponsoring UKNOF47. We are
also grateful to our 2021 corporate patrons: Flexoptix, IPv4 Market
Group and RIPE NCC as PREMIUM patrons, with Internet Systems
Consortium and Secrutiny as PROMOTER patrons. We’d also like to thank
our partners Bogons and Portfast, and Friends of UKNOF.

UKNOF48 is being planned as a hybrid in-person and Internet event for
the autumn of 2021. The Call for Presentations will open soon, and if
you are interested in presenting at the next or a subsequent UKNOF,
you will be able to submit your proposal via our Call for
Presentations site.

If you'd like to shape the future of UKNOF, please remember that we
are recruiting for both the Programme and Communications Committees.
If you'd like to join either, please drop a note to
cha...@uknof.org.uk.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
for the UKNOF Communications Committee

[uknof] Reminder about UKNOF47 CfP (was: UKNOF46 Event Report Published)

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF Community,

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 8:30 AM Leo Vegoda  wrote:

[...]

> We have started planning for UKNOF47 and you can submit a proposal for
> a talk at https://uknof.uk/cfp47

The UKNOF PC has worked with speakers to develop an exciting agenda
for UKNOF47 but we still have room for a couple of short talks. If you
have a good idea for a talk, please submit an abstract or reach out to
one of the Programme Committee, who can help you with your talk. If
you have an idea for a talk we can find some time to help you make it
real. Please let the PC know before Monday.

https://wiki.uknof.org.uk/Programme_Committee

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda

Re: [uknof] UKNOF46 Event Report Published

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF Community,

We have updated the UKNOF46 Event Report (https://uknof.uk/report46)
with links to recordings of the talks, so you can catch up on a talk
you missed or watch one you enjoyed again.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
for the UKNOF Communications Committee

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 8:30 AM Leo Vegoda  wrote:
>
> Dear UKNOF Community,
>
> We have published the UKNOF46 Event Report. You can read it at
> https://uknof.uk/report46
>
> We are grateful to Arista for sponsoring UKNOF46. We are also grateful
> to our 2021 corporate patrons: BT as PRINCIPAL patron, Flexoptix, IPv4
> Market Group and RIPE NCC as PREMIUM patrons, with Internet Systems
> Consortium and Secrutiny as PROMOTER patrons. We’d also like to thank
> our partners Bogons and Portfast, and Friends of UKNOF.
>
> We have started planning for UKNOF47 and you can submit a proposal for
> a talk at https://uknof.uk/cfp47
>
> If you'd like to shape the future of UKNOF, please remember that we
> are recruiting for both the Programme and Communications Committees.
> If you'd like to join either, please drop a note to
> cha...@uknof.org.uk.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Leo Vegoda
> for the UKNOF Communications Committee

[uknof] UKNOF46 Event Report Published

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear UKNOF Community,

We have published the UKNOF46 Event Report. You can read it at
https://uknof.uk/report46

We are grateful to Arista for sponsoring UKNOF46. We are also grateful
to our 2021 corporate patrons: BT as PRINCIPAL patron, Flexoptix, IPv4
Market Group and RIPE NCC as PREMIUM patrons, with Internet Systems
Consortium and Secrutiny as PROMOTER patrons. We’d also like to thank
our partners Bogons and Portfast, and Friends of UKNOF.

We have started planning for UKNOF47 and you can submit a proposal for
a talk at https://uknof.uk/cfp47

If you'd like to shape the future of UKNOF, please remember that we
are recruiting for both the Programme and Communications Committees.
If you'd like to join either, please drop a note to
cha...@uknof.org.uk.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
for the UKNOF Communications Committee

Re: [uknof] LD8 Security Pods

[Leo Vegoda]

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:47 AM Alex Threlfall  wrote:

[...]

> I mean, in LD9 they disabled my card at midnight once when I was still on the 
> floor and couldn't get off, so had to set of the emergency releases on every 
> door until I got to security. Sigh.

Was that an actual decision by people at the change of shift or some
poorly designed software that didn't check that yesterday's cards were
no longer being used before deactivating them?

Regards,

Leo

[uknof] UKNOF46 Agenda Published - Registration Still Open

[Leo Vegoda]

Dear Colleagues,

We have published the agenda for UKNOF46, to be held on Tuesday, 19
January 2021. We will start at 12:00 UTC, run for about five hours,
with several breaks along the way. There will be nine talks from nine
speakers. We will finish with a BYO Pints n' Packets.

https://uknof.uk/46

If you'd like to attend and have not yet registered, you still can:
there's a link from the link above.

Looking forward to seeing everyone there!

Leo Vegoda
UKNOF Communications Committee

Re: [uknof] PeeringDB Satisfaction Survey

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

If you run a network, an IXP, or a data centre but have not yet
completed PeeringDB's 2020 survey, please do so this week. It should
take less than three minutes and is an opportunity to influence the
2021 product roadmap.

Thanks,

Leo

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 10:29 AM Leo Vegoda  wrote:
>
> PeeringDB is a non-profit, freely available, user-maintained, database
> of networks, and the go-to location for interconnection data. The
> database facilitates the global interconnection of networks at
> Internet Exchange Points (IXPs), data centers, and other
> interconnection facilities, and is the first stop in making
> interconnection decisions.
>
> We want input from network operators, exchange operators, facility
> providers, content distributors and anyone who uses our
> interconnection database. This year we are running an anonymous
> satisfaction survey in addition to the usual feedback gathering we
> employ.
>
> The survey will be available here:
>
>https://surveyhero.com/c/f7be5236
>
> until 23:59 UTC on 20 November 2020.
>
> We would like your feedback to help us make PeeringDB more useful to
> everyone involved in connecting networks.This survey will help us
> understand what is important to you and how satisfied you are with
> what we are doing. We will use your responses to focus our product
> roadmap on the improvements that will make things better for you. If
> you have specific comments or suggestions, we’d love you to leave them
> along with your ratings.
>
> This is the first survey we are making available in multiple
> languages. In this survey we are using the six UN languages for the
> questions. That said, we’re happy with people providing free text
> comments in another whichever language they are happiest expressing
> themselves.
>
> We’ll share the results and the new product roadmap early in 2021.
>
> Leo Vegoda on behalf of PeeringDB ProductCom

[uknof] PeeringDB Satisfaction Survey

[Leo Vegoda]

PeeringDB is a non-profit, freely available, user-maintained, database
of networks, and the go-to location for interconnection data. The
database facilitates the global interconnection of networks at
Internet Exchange Points (IXPs), data centers, and other
interconnection facilities, and is the first stop in making
interconnection decisions.

We want input from network operators, exchange operators, facility
providers, content distributors and anyone who uses our
interconnection database. This year we are running an anonymous
satisfaction survey in addition to the usual feedback gathering we
employ.

The survey will be available here:

   https://surveyhero.com/c/f7be5236

until 23:59 UTC on 20 November 2020.

We would like your feedback to help us make PeeringDB more useful to
everyone involved in connecting networks.This survey will help us
understand what is important to you and how satisfied you are with
what we are doing. We will use your responses to focus our product
roadmap on the improvements that will make things better for you. If
you have specific comments or suggestions, we’d love you to leave them
along with your ratings.

This is the first survey we are making available in multiple
languages. In this survey we are using the six UN languages for the
questions. That said, we’re happy with people providing free text
comments in another whichever language they are happiest expressing
themselves.

We’ll share the results and the new product roadmap early in 2021.

Leo Vegoda on behalf of PeeringDB ProductCom

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

[Leo Vegoda]

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:22 AM Per Bilse  wrote:
>
> I'm saying that address space is a limited resource, and as such it cannot be 
> expected to be free.  Cheap, maybe, but one way or another it will always 
> cost something; even staking a free claim isn't free.  This is a general 
> principle that applies universally, and I recall Daniel's note as a slightly 
> tongue-in-cheek, gentle reminder that reality prevails, even in the Internet.

The address space itself is free. That's why you can use as many
probabilistically unique /48s in fd00::/8 - you just can't register
them. You're paying for the registration, the DNS, and a bunch of
other services, like RIPE meetings, that are associated with the
registration.

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

[Leo Vegoda]

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 8:02 AM Per Bilse  wrote:
>
> Daniel Karrenberg (founder/CTO RIPE NCC) has for decades said "I sell IP 
> address space".  The price has historically been low, but it has always been 
> a finite resource, and that goes for IPv6 address space too (when the RIPE 
> NCC opened up for IPv6 address space, it took half an hour to receive enough 
> requests to exhaust the entire IPv6 address space.)

I'm not really sure what you are trying to say. But I don't think the
RIPE NCC has ever had so many requests for IPv6 that it would take all
the IPv6 space for the very simple reason that there isn't enough
network to justify it.

The RIRs collectively took a couple of years to get 100 requests for
IPv6 /35s, back in the day. I remember preparing the announcement that
we had hit that policy milestone.

Now, there is a settled policy for IPv6 allocations to ISPs and each
of the RIRs get a /12 allocation from the IANA from a /3. Those /12s
last a long time and there are enough /12s in that /3 that even if
each RIR needed one a year it would take a century to allocate them
all.

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

[Leo Vegoda]

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 6:41 AM Paul Bone  wrote:

[...]

> ISP B is just starting out and has to pay RIPE fees and get on a waiting list 
> for a /24. All the while being unable to provide IPv4 services.

Or go to a broker and buy a /24 or whatever from a network that can
make do with fewer addresses.

Re: [uknof] why aren't we giving /31 to customers

[Leo Vegoda]

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 9:20 AM William Hilsum  wrote:
>
> Some do this... but, RFC3021 is just a RFC - please correct me if I'm wrong, 
> but, I don't think it is in any official specification.

I am not sure what you mean by that. It is a Standards Track document
with a status of Proposed Standard.

The IETF rarely gets the tuits to move stuff from Proposed Standard to
Standard but that doesn't mean protocols documented in them aren't
de-facto standard. That said, there's requirement to implement RFC
3021, as far as I'm aware. It's your network, so feel free to use /30s
if that makes things better for you and your customers.

Re: [uknof] Extortion?

[Leo Vegoda]

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 10:59 AM Aled Morris
 wrote:

[...]

> You can split the payment into two parts.

What is the rationale for this part of the demand?

Re: [uknof] [Ext] Re: Three hosed. Make it right please!

[Leo Vegoda]

On 10/17/19, 3:47 AM, "uknof on behalf of Clive D.W. Feather" 
 wrote:

[...]

> Actually, you don't know that - what if someone can't call an ambulance
> after a road accident?

I was under the impression that the mobile networks all allow a powered up 
phone to call 112 or 999 even if there is no SIM card in there. Is that not the 
case?

I understand that people who needed an ambulance and only had a phone tied to 
3, might not have tried to make a call, but in the event that they did try, I 
had assumed that it would have been routed by some other network.

Kind regards,

Leo

Re: [uknof] [Ext] Re: Virgin Media fibre expansion

[Leo Vegoda]

Tim Chown wrote:

[...]

> I must admit to being confused by BT’s “unlimited infinity”
>  advert. In what way is infinity limited?

An uncountable infinite set is larger than a countable infinite set, no? 
Perhaps marketing teams will turn to Cantor and set theory for future 
superlatives?


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Re: [uknof] Investigatory Powers Act

[Leo Vegoda]

Paul Mansfield wrote:
> On 30 November 2016 at 16:48, Pete Stevens  wrote:
> > (i) That's going to be a lot of data. Invest in disks.
>
> some years ago on another mailing list we speculated how many disks
> you'd need, and I hacked up a spreadsheet.

It's not clear to me if you attempted to factor in any duplication for RAID. 
Also, isn't 100GB/month per household fairly low if media streaming is as 
popular as is often suggested?


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Re: [uknof] RIPE policy change for new LIR formation

[Leo Vegoda]

Nigel Titley wrote:

[...]

> > I did suggest to the RIPE NCC about a decade ago they should subscribe 
> > to Companies House online access to search/verify such things.
> 
> And all of the other 68 Company House equivalents in the RIPE NCC service
region?

That sounds like a good idea. 


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Re: [uknof] Fwd: internet connection record

[Leo Vegoda]

Tom Hill wrote:

[...]

> And of course, the age-old argument; criminals. The minute the
> Government realise that they can't see 'into' VPNs terminating in
> $other_country, is the minute they'll want to mitigate their use. "We're
> not breaking encryption, we're just blocking criminals from using it.
> There will be no safe spaces for criminals and terrorists! The IP Bill
> 2016 says we can interfere with whatever we like, so suck it up."

How would they do that without breaking corporate VPN access for people whose 
companies are based in other countries? 

Regards,

Leo

Re: [uknof] AS Path Filters and Regex

[Leo Vegoda]

James Bensley wrote:

[...]

> Also the ASN range 65552-131071 is reserved on the IANA page but no
> RFC or indication as to why or if it will be allocated later? 

The plan is to allocate 32-bit blocks to RIRs as a continuous range. That's why 
APNIC starts at 131072, RIPE NCC at 196608, LACNIC at 262144 and so on. We are 
likely to be retired or dead by the time APNIC needs 196607. So it is unlikely 
that we will see allocations to RIRs from the 65552-131071 range for a very 
long time, if ever as the same pattern can start again until we hit 41.

Numbers from the 65552-131071 range are only likely to be assigned for some 
other reason, based on the IANA Considerations section in an RFC.

Regards,

Leo

Re: [uknof] Vodafone UK/AS25135, 1.2.3.50 O RLY?

[Leo Vegoda]

Alexander Harrowell wrote:

 I was a little surprised, using Vodafone LTE as a backup link
 yesterday morning, to see Read 1.2.3.50 from my web browser.
 1.2.3.50 isn't a Vodafone netblock and is actually an APNIC debogon.
 Squatting in 1/8 is a bit dated isn't it?

I'm surprised you're surprised.

The reason APNIC won't allocate 1.2.3.0/24 is because of the huge amount of 
squatting on it. We did some research into the amount of squatting, using 
reverse DNS queries from DITL data, some time before we got to the last score 
of /8s. 1.in-addr.arpa was getting the third highest amount of traffic back 
then.

http://www.uknof.org.uk/uknof9/Vegoda-Unallocated.pdf (slide 8 of 12)

We also got lots of messages from lawyers telling us that we were running warez 
sites hosted at 1.1.1.1 or 1.2.3.4. Presumably these came from lawyers who were 
too cheap to pay to use the WiFi in the airport and believed what nslookup 
showed them. APNIC is welcome to those messages.

Regards,

Leo

Re: [uknof] UK IPv6 Taskforce

[Leo Vegoda]

Neil,

Neil J. McRae wrote:

[...]

 Neither is acceptable in a broadband servce, as an operator unfortunately
 its much easier for me to do NAT and make it work than it is for me to fix
 all the broken IPV6 that¹s out there.

I've not really noticed any IPv6 problems on our office LAN over the last few 
years but an office environment is obviously more controlled than a consumer 
one. That said, I have been a consumer customer of T-mobile's and TWC's IPv6 
services for a while now and can't say that I have ever noticed any brokenness 
there, either. Are you able to share some kind of top 10 or top five broken 
things and their frequency?

As an individual I am not statistically significant and could just be lucky. As 
an operator you must have lots of statistically valid data.

Leo

Re: [uknof] UK IPv6 Taskforce

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi Neil,

Neil J. McRae wrote:

 As Ben noted similar issues but as I keep saying we who work in this 
 industry are not atypical users. 

Indeed. 

 The issue is that there are lots of little things, if it was one big thing 
 then it would be easy to fix. My printer reboots everytime I try to 
 print to it over IPv6 for example.
 
 Imagine the myriad of consumer setups new and old... 

And that's why I asked about a top 10 list. I am sure we can all come up with 
anecdotes, like your printer or the website with a  in the DNS but a 
webserver that's not listening on that address. But something with some 
statistical rigor would be both useful and interesting. Do you have anything 
with statistical rigor or just a lot of anecdotes?

Regards,

Leo

Re: [uknof] NCA: Two-week opportunity for UK to reduce threat from powerful computer attack

[Leo Vegoda]

David Derrick wrote:

[...]

 Sounds like 2 weeks is how long the security guys reckon it will take 
 the botnet operators to deploy new CC machines. 

That long?

[uknof] IANA IPv4 Recovered Address Space registry updated

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,
 
ICANN has updated the IANA IPv4 Recovered Address Space registry after
LACNIC notified it that it has less than a total of a /9 in its inventory of
IPv4 address space. This triggered the activation the Recovered IPv4 pool,
which was created in the Global Policy for Post Exhaustion IPv4 Allocation
Mechanisms by the IANA.
 
The address space selection is made using software that tries to allocate
blocks based on the RIR managing the DNS for that /8. The software, along
with a worked example, is published at: https://github.com/icann/
 
The list of allocations can be found at:
https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-recovered-address-space/ipv4-recovered
-address-space.xhtml#ipv4-recovered-address-space-2
 
Kind regards,
 
Leo Vegoda


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[uknof] New RIPE NCC contribution to the IANA IPv4 Recovered Address Space registry

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,
 
In April 2014, ICANN updated the IANA IPv4 Recovered Address Space registry
to reflect the return of 14 /24 prefixes (5,376 IPv4 addresses) by the RIPE
NCC. The updated registry can be found at:
https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-recovered-address-space
 
Kind regards,
 
Leo Vegoda
ICANN
IANA


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Re: [uknof] ipv6 bgp filter size?

[Leo Vegoda]

Will Hargrave wrote:
On 31 Jan 2014, at 08:38, john huss mrjohnh...@googlemail.com wrote:

[...]

 Yes. There are lots of services only hosted in /48s - i.e. IPv6 PI, 
 including many of the IPv6 root nameservers.
 
 You can probably look at RIR lists for which blocks they allocate 
 which sizes of address from; 

http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-555

HTH,

Leo


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[uknof] One block of AS Numbers allocated to APNIC

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect the allocation
of one block of 1,024 AS Numbers to APNIC in September 2013:

63488-63999 Assigned by APNIC   whois.apnic.net 2013-09-11
133120-133631   Assigned by APNIC   whois.apnic.net 2013-09-11

You can find the IANA AS Numbers registry at:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/

The allocation was made in accordance with the Policy for Allocation of
ASN Blocks to Regional Internet Registries:
 
https://www.icann.org/en/resources/policy/global-addressing/global-polic
y-asn-blocks-21sep10-en.htm

Regards,

Leo Vegoda
ICANN
IANA


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[uknof] One block of AS Numbers allocated to the RIPE NCC

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect the allocation
of one block of 1,024 AS Numbers to the RIPE NCC in September 2013:

61952-62463 Assigned by RIPE NCCwhois.ripe.net  2013-09-09
199680-200191   Assigned by RIPE NCCwhois.ripe.net  2013-09-09

You can find the IANA AS Numbers registry at:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/

Regards,

Leo Vegoda
ICANN
IANA


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Re: [uknof] Recommendations for VOIP provider in the UK

[Leo Vegoda]

On Jun 12, 2013, at 3:20 pm, Clive D.W. Feather cl...@davros.org wrote:

 Christian de Larrinaga said:
 The spineless attitude in Ofcom to porting is seriously inadequate in my
 humble opinion.
 
 There should be a national porting service that ENUM like would manage
 the routing without having to ingress into a legacy supply chain.
 
 We put a lot of work into designing it and finding someone to build and run
 it. Then Vodaphone (IIRC) took Ofcom to court to get it stopped.

A naïve question from someone who doesn't know much about telephone routing 
follows… What happens if the business that originally provided the transferred 
number closes its network or stops operations? Does that break the new 
provider's service for the number?

Leo



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[uknof] IANA AS Numbers registry update

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect two changes.
LACNIC has returned the range 61440-62463   in exchange for a block
composed of two non-contiguous ranges:

61440-61951 
263168-263679

Both ranges were allocated today. You can find the IANA AS Numbers
registry at:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers

Regards,

Leo Vegoda
leo.veg...@icann.org

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Re: [uknof] facebook making DNS requests for no reason?

[Leo Vegoda]

On Aug 7, 2012, at 6:54 am, Keith Mitchell ke...@smoti.org wrote:

[…]

 Most people don't need to run Open Recursive DNS, but there's a lot
 of misconfigured  boxes out there…
 
 In particular this includes certain CPE devices - some routers shipped
 with the internal stub resolver being open to the external as well as
 internal interface, and it not necessarily being easy or even possible
 to disable this.

Many consumer ISPs filter ports and protocols commonly used in abuse traffic. 
Does this include filters for DNS queries made to DSL or cable connections?

Thanks,

Leo



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Re: [uknof] A dual stack London2012?

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi Andy,

You wrote:

 Further, it is extremely likely that the Olympic Games will be staged *after* 
 the 
 RIPE region v4 runout (and the APNIC v4 runout was long ago), 

Do you know something we don't know? According to the RIPE NCC's web site, it 
has over 3 /8s in stock and has allocated about a /9 in the last three months. 
Do you really think they'll allocate a /7 before the kick-off?

http://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/ipv4-exhaustion/ipv4-available-pool-graph

Leo

[uknof] Two blocks of AS Numbers allocated to APNIC

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of two 
blocks to APNIC in August 2011. 

58368-59391 Assigned by APNIC   2011-08-09
132096-133119   Assigned by APNIC   2011-08-09

You can find the registry at:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/as-numbers.xml
http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/as-numbers.xhtml
http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/as-numbers.txt

Regards,

Leo Vegoda
Number Resources Manager, IANA
ICANN

[uknof] DNS Contact at Cable Wireless

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

My apologies for sending this to the list but I've tried the obvious options 
already.

I am trying to contact someone responsible for CW's IP6.ARPA reverse DNS 
delegations. I have tried the addresses in the SOA RNAME and listed for the 
address space in the RIPE Database a couple of times over the last week but 
have not yet had a response.

If someone could contact me I'd be grateful.

Thanks,

Leo

[uknof] Four additional /8s allocated in November 2010

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

The IANA IPv4 registry has been updated to reflect the allocation
of four /8 IPv4 blocks to ARIN and RIPE NCC in November 2010: 5/8, 
23/8, 37/8 and 100/8. You can find the IANA IPv4 registry at:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xhtml
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.txt

The complete list of IPv4 /8s allocated so far this year is:

1/8
5/8
14/8
23/8
27/8
31/8
36/8
37/8
42/8
49/8
50/8
100/8
101/8
105/8
107/8
176/8
177/8
181/8
223/8

Please update your filters as appropriate.

The IANA free pool contains 7 unallocated unicast IPv4 /8s.

Regards,

Leo Vegoda
Number Resources Manager, IANA
ICANN

[uknof] 105/8 allocated to AfriNIC

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

The IANA IPv4 registry has been updated to reflect the allocation
of a /8 IPv4 block to AfriNIC in November 2010: 105/8. You can find 
the IANA IPv4 registry at:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xhtml
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.txt

The complete list of IPv4 /8s allocated so far this year is:

1/8
14/8
27/8
31/8
36/8
42/8
49/8
50/8
101/8
105/8
107/8
176/8
177/8
181/8
223/8

Please update your filters as appropriate.

The IANA free pool contains 11 unallocated unicast IPv4 /8s.

Regards,

Leo Vegoda
Number Resources Manager, IANA
ICANN

Re: [uknof] 6UK Launch Event: 11th Nov

[Leo Vegoda]

On 28 Oct 2010, at 6:30, Keith Mitchell wrote:

[...]

 6UK Launch
 Promoting the adoption of the new Internet Protocol in the UK
 
 The Internet is the foundation of current and future communications
 infrastructure. Everything using the Internet has a unique identifier,
 its IP address. Most devices on the Internet use IPv4 addresses.
 However  the number of IPv4 addresses which can be issued is drying up
 and is expected to be exhausted in 1-2 years.

And as if by magic, we allocated another /8 today. It's just a shame that it 
happened after the event. 

This is what's left now:

005/8   IANAUNALLOCATED 
023/8   IANAUNALLOCATED 
037/8   IANAUNALLOCATED 
039/8   IANAUNALLOCATED 
100/8   IANAUNALLOCATED 
102/8   IANAUNALLOCATED 
103/8   IANAUNALLOCATED 
104/8   IANAUNALLOCATED 
106/8   IANAUNALLOCATED 
179/8   IANAUNALLOCATED 
185/8   IANAUNALLOCATED

Cheers,

Leo

[uknof] 36/8 and 42/8 allocated to APNIC

[Leo Vegoda]

Hi,

The IANA IPv4 registry has been updated to reflect the allocation
of two /8 IPv4 blocks to APNIC in October 2010: 36/8 and 42/8. You 
can find the IANA IPv4 registry at:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xhtml
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.txt

The complete list of IPv4 /8s allocated so far this year is:

1/8
14/8
27/8
31/8
36/8
42/8
49/8
50/8
101/8   
107/8
176/8
177/8
181/8
223/8

Please update your filters as appropriate.

The IANA free pool contains 12 unallocated unicast IPv4 /8s.

Regards,

Leo Vegoda
Number Resources Manager, IANA
ICANN

Re: [uknof] SNMP OID equivalent to RFC1918

[Leo Vegoda]

On 20 Sep 2010, at 12:39, Adrian Kennard wrote:

[...]

 I understand that the PEN space is infinite. Of course, typing a *very* long 
 string of numbers into a configuration might be a bit awkward.
 
 Now why could they not have done that for IP addresses :-)

I was told that variable length IP addresses were considered in the early 
design stage but we didn't go there because it is cheaper to produce equipment 
that processes fixed length addresses. Hopefully 128 bits will be enough for 
the next century.

Regards,

Leo