[UC] Fw: RE: [phillyblocks] Rename West River Drive?

2005-02-17 Thread Mark Krull 


Hey kids!
Read below-Forwarded Message- From: "S. Sharrieff Ali" Sent: Feb 16, 2005 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [phillyblocks] Rename West River Drive? Actually, I just heard from a city contact of mine that it is a done deal, the Drive will be renamed by month's end in honorof MLK.S.-Original Message-From: Laura Blanchard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:41 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [phillyblocks] Rename West River Drive?How about honoring the vision of the nineteenth century civic leaderswho had the prescience to secure the riverbank on both sides by namingthe two drives the East River Drive and the West River Drive? The nicething about those two names, which is lost when we start naming them forpeople, is that the name of one implies the existence of the other.S. Sharrieff Ali said: If the city can name East River Drive after Jack Kelly (rest his  soul), than it could surely honor Rev. Dr. M.L. King by naming the  west drive after him. A pavilion will not provide the same recognition as a road that so  many people will use daily for years to come. The road will be  mentioned in news reports when it is used for charity runs..recreation and will be listed on maps. Personally I think it is a fitting honor for a man who's life  represented so much for so many people worldwide. Why not! S. -Original Message- From: Jane Glenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [phillyblocks] Rename West River Drive? On Wednesday 16 February 2005 10:58 am, you wrote: There's a movement to change West River Drive to Martin Luther King  Drive. It was a mistake to change East Rive Drive to Kelly Drive. Changing  West River Drive to MLK drive will compound the mistake. I'm all for  giving Martin Luther King his props. Let's make it related to what he sacrificed his life for, civil rights or human rights. Thank you. I still call it East River Drive. Let's have a Martin Luther King pavillion on West River Drive. A road  is a road, a pavillion is a place people can gather and celebrate. - Jane Glenn To Post a message, send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Post an Event to the Calendar:  http://groups.yahoo.com/calendar/phillyblocks PhillyBlocks Web Site: http://phillyblocks.org Numbers to call for Philadelphia More Beautiful Cleanups:  http://170.115.249.12/streets/clean_block_officers.html Yahoo! Groups Links To Post a message, send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Post an Event to the Calendar:  http://groups.yahoo.com/calendar/phillyblocks PhillyBlocks Web Site: http://phillyblocks.org Numbers to call for Philadelphia More Beautiful Cleanups:  http://170.115.249.12/streets/clean_block_officers.html Yahoo! Groups Links-- Laura Blanchard[EMAIL PROTECTED]2041 Christian Street, Philadelphia PA 19146-1338215-985-1445(sent from my backup account, [EMAIL PROTECTED])To Post a message, send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To Post an Event to the Calendar:http://groups.yahoo.com/calendar/phillyblocksPhillyBlocks Web Site: http://phillyblocks.orgNumbers to call for Philadelphia More Beautiful Cleanups:http://170.115.249.12/streets/clean_block_officers.html Yahoo! Groups LinksTo Post a message, send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Post an Event to the Calendar: http://groups.yahoo.com/calendar/phillyblocksPhillyBlocks Web Site: http://phillyblocks.orgNumbers to call for Philadelphia More Beautiful Cleanups:http://170.115.249.12/streets/clean_block_officers.html 




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Re: [UC] Nightmare on Spruce Street

2005-02-17 Thread BGAndersen 
My block went 'permit parking' when I lived on the 500 block of South 44th Street. The day the signs went up, somone from the PPA came and ticketed everyone on the block 

When I questioned them on some sort of grace period, the PPA officer simply shrugged.



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Thanks for posting this, I'd been meaning to ask.  Do you mean the church at
the corner of 47th and Cedar?  I parked on 47th on Friday night, and my car
had a ticket on Monday morning.  This is around the corner from my house, so
I was unaware that there was reason to move the car on Saturday.  I checked
the Parking Authority web site, but the options were pay or schedule a
hearing, no provision for mere inquiries.  I've been more concerned with the
mystery than the money.  Thought maybe I'd missed temporary signs in the
dark on Friday, but it seems not, so I'll write a note too.  Sigh.  But a
minor annoyance compared to the original question.

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 Cindy,

 I am not sure about the proper course of action but we just sent a little
 letter to Jannie Blackwell, the Police Dept. and the Church in the corner
 of our block.  There was a funeral on saturday and they put up the
 temporary No Parking signs (9am to 1pm) the morning of the funeral.  Since
 we had already been on the spot from the night before, we got a ticket.
 It's bad enough that we pay for parking permits in our block but on top of
 that, the police dept. didn't follow their own rules of 24h posting of
 temporary signs AND we now have to pay a ticket.



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Re: [UC] Fw: RE: [phillyblocks] Rename West River Drive?

2005-02-17 Thread Herons 



For what it's worth - most New Yorkers still refer 
to Sixth Avenue as Sixth Avenue, not Avenue of the Americas, the avenue's 
official name.. And the "D" train is the Sixth Avenue Subway, not anything 
else.

Al Airone

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mark 
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  To: UnivCity@list.purple.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:26 
  AM
  Subject: [UC] Fw: RE: [phillyblocks] 
  Rename West River Drive?
  
  Hey kids!
  Read below-Forwarded Message- From: "S. Sharrieff 
  Ali" Sent: Feb 16, 2005 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject: RE: [phillyblocks] Rename West River Drive? 
  Actually, I just heard from a city contact 
  of mine that it is a done deal, the Drive will be renamed by month's end 
  in honorof MLK.S.-Original Message-From: Laura 
  Blanchard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 
  2:41 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [phillyblocks] 
  Rename West River Drive?How about honoring the vision of 
  the nineteenth century civic leaderswho had the prescience to secure the 
  riverbank on both sides by namingthe two drives the East River Drive and 
  the West River Drive? The nicething about those two names, which is lost 
  when we start naming them forpeople, is that the name of one implies the 
  existence of the other.S. Sharrieff Ali 
  said: If the city can name East River Drive after Jack 
  Kelly (rest his  soul), than it could surely honor Rev. Dr. M.L. King 
  by naming the  west drive after him. A pavilion will 
  not provide the same recognition as a road that so  many people will 
  use daily for years to come. The road will be  mentioned in news 
  reports when it is used for charity runs..recreation and will be 
  listed on maps. Personally I think it is a fitting honor for a 
  man who's life  represented so much for so many people 
  worldwide. Why not! S. 
  -Original Message- From: Jane Glenn 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:22 
  PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 
  [phillyblocks] Rename West River Drive? On 
  Wednesday 16 February 2005 10:58 am, you wrote: There's a movement 
  to change West River Drive to Martin Luther King  
  Drive. It was a mistake to change East Rive Drive to 
  Kelly Drive. Changing  West River Drive to MLK drive will compound 
  the mistake. I'm all for  giving Martin Luther King his props. 
  Let's make it related to what he sacrificed his life for, 
  civil rights or human rights. Thank you. I still call it East 
  River Drive. Let's have a Martin Luther King pavillion on West 
  River Drive. A road  is a road, a pavillion is a place people can 
  gather and celebrate. - Jane Glenn To 
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[UC] Fwd: [phillyblocks] Rename West River Drive?

2005-02-17 Thread Craigsolve 




In a message dated 2/17/2005 7:40:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
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Naming 
  the drive after MLK is political pander to a gulible public. 


Nice piece. How right you are. I'm surprised Ed posted it, since he is the 
current mayor's fawning lap dog and back-channel PR piece.

While MLK Jr. has no Phila history, if there is an arterial that needs to 
be used to spread the teachings of MLK, Jr., it is North Broad St. If they 
really want to celebrate the meaning of his life, rename North Broad St. "MLK 
Jr. Way" Try to stop the young men and women killing each other through 
violence, and poisoning each other with drugs. Not to mention the harm they 
visit upon their own families.

But, this isn't about celebrating the life and ways of MLK, Jr., its about 
sending a disturbing autocratic message about "Black Power"; just like "the 
brothers and sisters are in charge" or whatever self-serving pabulum John Street 
spewed. It also diverts attention away from the US/DOJ corruption 
prosecutions.

What a shame for Our Wonderful City.

Ciao,

Craig 

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Sharif Ali wrote: Actually, I just heard from a city contact of mine that it 
is
a done deal, the Drive will be renamed by month's end in honor
of MLK.

Ed, is this true? I hope not. Just when you think the city can't show a 
greater lack of vision, it does something like this. There should be a 
prohibition against naming public property after people.

Does the world needs another road named after Martin Luther King? No.

Naming the drive after MLK is political pander to a gulible public. The 
people promoting the change   don't have to do the hard work of say-- 
building and maintaining a Martin Luther King Civil Rights Center that 
actually has meaning and educational value. They change the name of a drive 
that has no real connection to Martin Luther King and the public thinks 
they're wonderful.

It's the same kind of political pandering that led to JFK and Columbus 
Blvds. Every identifiable political group will demand public places named 
after them as their power increase. In forty years will the drives have the 
same names as they have at the end of February 2005?







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[UC] NYTimes.com: Philadelphia Hopes for a Lead in the Wireless Race

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The NYT, in another example of its latest foray into lightweight journalism, explores the Philadelphia WiFi experiment. As a proponent of WiFi, but not the John Street way, I ask you to consider some of the following issues. 1) NYT states, "Experts say the Philadelphia model"...(blah, blah) but never mention the name of any industry experts. What happened to NYT's once world-class journalism or is this nothing more than a puff piece? 2) The article refers to Mayor Street's presentation at the United States Conference of Mayors, which leads us to two points one pragmatic regarding organizational work product and one regarding grass level self-aggrandizement. a) Where is the public release of John Street's long promised time critical WiFi plan? He has time to implement the MLK Drive naming with no public discussion, while our City molders and our libraries are shuttered; confused priorities that must have MLK Jr. looking down and saying, Oh my God. b) Self-aggrandizing WiFi !
 task force member Ed Schwartz does not make this issue of the NYT. Who cares? At least he can tell the reporter from a local alternative weekly dog poop wrapper they have heard of Ed and WiFi in Australia, as if anyone really cares. In case none of you read a local newspaper like our daily record The Philadelphia Inquirer, take a look at the 02/16/05 edition: Why FBI wanted to bug Street. How many more bites from our public apple are we going to let John Street take, before we send our lame duck mayor packing? Am I really being harsh? Do you really want the same municipal mentality that has mismanaged PGW and PWD implementing WiFi for our City? This is not an issue of politics or race. It is an issue of developing the future of our City. John Street is a leader who has failed to roll out public access cable TV, yet a good part of our City has been wired for between 10 and 15 years. John Street is a politician who does not hold live broadcast press conferences, yet he has be!
 en an elected official for 20 plus years. John Street is a may!
 or who c

annot find the time to handle live constituent discussions on radio or TV, but he can find the time to drive to Jacksonville FL for the Super Bowl. Communication is both an art and a science, neither of which John Street understands or appreciates. Effective communications is one of the keys for growing a better and brighter future for our beloved City of Philadelphia. John Street cannot be trusted with the key to a bounty as important as the lives of our children and William Penn's dream for all the citizens of Philadelphia. Craig Melidosian RealSolutions Network P O Box 33355 Phila PA 19142-0555 215-724-8148 24hr voice/fax 215-724-3212 voice Breakthrough Relationships Enhancing Value in Community & Government Copyright 1998-2005 




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Re: [UC] tailor/alterations - suggestions?

2005-02-17 Thread BruceWMcC 




In a message dated 2/16/2005 11:56:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I need 
  to have some alterations done to some clothing.Can anyone recommend a good 
  tailor/drycleaner in the 'hood?

White Seal,south side ofBaltimore just west of 49th, is very 
good at both.

Bruce McCullough

RE: [UC] Fwd: [phillyblocks] Rename West River Drive?

2005-02-17 Thread Kyle Cassidy 
Title: RE: [UC] Fwd: [phillyblocks] Rename West River Drive?





Dr. King attended Crozer Theological Seminary in Chester -- which is not Philadelphia per se, but it's close enough for me. I'd be tickled pink to have any street in the city named after him. Now that our Frank Rizzo statuary needs have been accomodated. But, in keeping with the topical nature of the list, I'd prefer it was one in west philly.

West river drive seems to me to actually be on the south side of the river anyway.


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Re: [UC] tailor/alterations - suggestions?

2005-02-17 Thread Jennifer Rumain 
Thanks. Hopefully I will have better luck with White Seal than I've had with Farrar on 46th  Baltimore or Harvard Cleaners on 42nd  Baltimore. 

I found myself having to go to Farrar's several times to pick up my drycleaning because it was closed during posted business hours. I recently had a coat drycleaned at Harvard. After receiving a ticket with a price of $12, I later recieved a phone call saying that the price was a mistake and it would cost $20. I said I would just pick my coat up and take it elsewhere to which she replied that the coat had already been sent to an off-the-premise site to be clean. Frustrated by this, I was able to talk her down to $18. I picked my coat up this week only to find a receipt to a Korean restaurant (to which I've never had the pleasure of dining) and the exact change received from the bill in my pocket (unfortunately this was only 35 cents).

Needless to say, I feel violated everytime I wear that coat.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



In a message dated 2/16/2005 11:56:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I need to have some alterations done to some clothing.Can anyone recommend a good tailor/drycleaner in the 'hood?

White Seal,south side ofBaltimore just west of 49th, is very good at both.

Bruce McCullough
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[UC] How to catch a thief

2005-02-17 Thread John Ellingsworth 
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Re: [UC] tailor/alterations - suggestions?

2005-02-17 Thread maruca 
the extra $$ was to get out the kim chi stain!

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Jennifer Rumain wrote:

 Thanks.  Hopefully I will have better luck with White Seal than I've had with 
 Farrar on 46th  Baltimore or Harvard Cleaners on 42nd  Baltimore.  
  
 I found myself having to go to Farrar's several times to pick up my 
 drycleaning because it was closed during posted business hours.  I recently 
 had a coat drycleaned at Harvard.  After receiving a ticket with a price of 
 $12, I later recieved a phone call saying that the price was a mistake and it 
 would cost $20.  I said I would just pick my coat up and take it elsewhere to 
 which she replied that the coat had already been sent to an off-the-premise 
 site to be clean.  Frustrated by this, I was able to talk her down to $18.  I 
 picked my coat up this week only to find a receipt to a Korean restaurant (to 
 which I've never had the pleasure of dining) and the exact change received 
 from the bill in my pocket (unfortunately this was only 35 cents).
  
 Needless to say, I feel violated everytime I wear that coat.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 2/16/2005 11:56:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] writes:
 I need to have some alterations done to some clothing.
 Can anyone recommend a good tailor/drycleaner in the 'hood?
 
 White Seal, south side of Baltimore just west of 49th, is very good at both.
  
 Bruce McCullough
 
   
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RE: [UC] tailor/alterations - suggestions?

2005-02-17 Thread Mayer, Ann 








So far, I have had consistent good,
friendly service both for cleaning and tailoring from

The place at 41st and Spruce.



And, if I picked up a coat from a cleaners
and found evidence that the owners had given

It to someone else to wear to a
restaurant, I would demand that they give me the cleaned coat

For free -- with a threat to report them
to the Better Business Bureau and to the police if

I did not get free service after they had
turned out to be in a business other than that

Of cleaning the clothes given to them for
that purpose. 



Ann Mayer











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jennifer Rumain
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005
10:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC]
tailor/alterations - suggestions?







Thanks. Hopefully I will have better luck with White Seal than
I've had with Farrar on 46th  Baltimore or Harvard Cleaners on 42nd 
Baltimore. 











I found myself having to go to Farrar's several times to pick up my
drycleaning because it was closed during posted business hours. I
recently had a coat drycleaned at Harvard. After receiving a ticket with
a price of $12, I later recieved a phone call saying that the price was a
mistake and it would cost $20. I said I would just pick my coat up and take
it elsewhere to which she replied that the coat had already been sent to an
off-the-premise site to be clean. Frustrated by this, I was able to talk
her down to $18. I picked my coat up this week only to find a receipt to
a Korean restaurant (to which I've never had the pleasure of dining) and the
exact change received from the bill in my pocket (unfortunately this was only
35 cents).











Needless to say, I feel violated everytime I wear that coat.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:









In a message dated
2/16/2005 11:56:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





I need to have some alterations done to
some clothing.
Can anyone recommend a good tailor/drycleaner in the 'hood?







White Seal,south side ofBaltimore just west of
49th, is very good at both.











Bruce McCullough











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RE: [UC] tailor/alterations - suggestions?

2005-02-17 Thread BGAndersen 

Saias Cleaners
251 S 41st St
Philadelphia, PA  19104

(215) 222-2646

In a message dated 2/17/2005 11:00:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, Mayer, Ann 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

So far, I have had consistent good, friendly service both for cleaning
and tailoring from

The place at 41st and Spruce.



And, if I picked up a coat from a cleaners and found evidence that the
owners had given

It to someone else to wear to a restaurant, I would demand that they
give me the cleaned coat

For free -- with a threat to report them to the Better Business Bureau
and to the police if

I did not get free service after they had turned out to be in a business
other than that

Of cleaning the clothes given to them for that purpose.



Ann Mayer





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Rumain
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] tailor/alterations - suggestions?



Thanks.  Hopefully I will have better luck with White Seal than I've had
with Farrar on 46th  Baltimore or Harvard Cleaners on 42nd  Baltimore.




I found myself having to go to Farrar's several times to pick up my
drycleaning because it was closed during posted business hours.  I
recently had a coat drycleaned at Harvard.  After receiving a ticket
with a price of $12, I later recieved a phone call saying that the price
was a mistake and it would cost $20.  I said I would just pick my coat
up and take it elsewhere to which she replied that the coat had already
been sent to an off-the-premise site to be clean.  Frustrated by this, I
was able to talk her down to $18.  I picked my coat up this week only to
find a receipt to a Korean restaurant (to which I've never had the
pleasure of dining) and the exact change received from the bill in my
pocket (unfortunately this was only 35 cents).



Needless to say, I feel violated everytime I wear that coat.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

    In a message dated 2/16/2005 11:56:17 P.M. Eastern Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

        I need to have some alterations done to some clothing.
        Can anyone recommend a good tailor/drycleaner in the
'hood?

    White Seal, south side of Baltimore just west of 49th, is very
good at both.



    Bruce McCullough



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[UC] Judge Inspector of elections -- primaries

2005-02-17 Thread Krfapt 



At the time of the last election, there was some interest among 
participants in this list in serving as poll officials.

If you're interested inbeing nominated by your party to runfor 
Judge of Elections, or Inspector of Elections (there are two, a minority and a 
majority inspector -- one from each of the major parties), now's the time to get 
your petitions signed to get your name on the ballot for this spring's 
primaries. If you're a Libertarian, a Green, a Socialist-Worker, or a registered 
voter in another non-D/non-R party, you probably won't be having a primary and 
can run in the general election next fall without going through this step.

Democrats can contact Sylvia Hammerman Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and Republicans can 
contact Matt Wolfe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Voters registered in 
other parties with any questions can feel free to contact me off list and I'll 
try to answer them or direct you to whoever can.

For general information, you may also want to contact the Office of the 
Election Commission in City hall (main number is 214-MU6-1776. 

Always at 
your service and ready for a dialog,Al Krigman

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Vyomasiva

RE: [UC] tailor/alterations - suggestions?

2005-02-17 Thread Jonathan Cass 
FYI: I noticed that for a period of time, Sun Cleaners was not open at its
stated morning opening time.  This can be very annoying if your are planning
on dropping items on your way to work.  Also, I do not believe they take
credit cards.

Jonathan A. Cass
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Diller
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:10 PM
To: Jennifer Rumain
Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] tailor/alterations - suggestions?


Don't use Farrar- use Sun cleaners, which used to be there, but was
kicked out by the owner of the building (who also owns Farrar).

Sun's is right around the corner next to the carrot cake store on 47th,
NOBA. They do an excellent job and my wife has had many items altered
there and has been very happy with the work they do.

-andy

Jennifer Rumain wrote:
 Thanks.  Hopefully I will have better luck with White Seal than I've had
 with Farrar on 46th  Baltimore or Harvard Cleaners on 42nd  Baltimore.

 I found myself having to go to Farrar's several times to pick up my
 drycleaning because it was closed during posted business hours.  I
 recently had a coat drycleaned at Harvard.  After receiving a ticket
 with a price of $12, I later recieved a phone call saying that the price
 was a mistake and it would cost $20.  I said I would just pick my coat

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Re: [UC] tailor/alterations - suggestions?

2005-02-17 Thread Andrew Diller 
They do however take personal checks, and I still keep a few of those 
lying around... actually I have about 2000 that I will never get thru 
in this lifetime

On Feb 17, 2005, at 1:16 PM, Jonathan Cass wrote:
on dropping items on your way to work.  Also, I do not believe they 
take
credit cards.

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[UC] Tone of List

2005-02-17 Thread Marlevi 



Just wanted to let you know, I've gotten a lot of emails over the past few 
months from people who (like myself) are reluctant to post to this list because 
some of the just dowright rude comments certain posts have engendered. 
This is really too bad, because it means that we are missing out on 
informative/interesting/humorous commentary relevant to our neighborhood. I 
honestly think, that while some of exchanges are amusing, little in-jokes and 
repartees, are not really appropriate to this list - would be more appropriate 
to personal email. I have hear my view of this stated numerous times in 
numerous ways, by other posters. Hopefully, in time this will 
change. It is not about censorship or limiting free speech, it is about 
common courtesy.

Marlene Levy

Re: [UC] Tone of List

2005-02-17 Thread Mario Giorno 
Marlene,

 I second that emotion.


Mario Giorno


On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:40:17 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Just wanted to let you know, I've gotten a lot of emails over the past few
 months from people who (like myself) are reluctant to post to this list
 because some of the just dowright rude comments certain posts have
 engendered.  This is really too bad, because it means that we are missing
 out on informative/interesting/humorous commentary relevant to our
 neighborhood. I honestly think, that while some of exchanges are amusing,
 little in-jokes and repartees, are not really appropriate to this list -
 would be more appropriate to personal email.  I have hear my view of this
 stated numerous times in numerous ways, by other posters.  Hopefully, in
 time this will change.  It is not about censorship or limiting free speech,
 it is about common courtesy. 
   
 Marlene Levy

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Re: [UC] Tone of List

2005-02-17 Thread Andrew Diller 
I've turned over a new leaf myself. I agree with you and will do what I 
can to only post helpful, positive things.

On Feb 17, 2005, at 2:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I honestly think, that while some of exchanges are amusing, little 
in-jokes and repartees, are not really appropriate to this list - 
would be more appropriate to personal email.  I have hear my view of 
this stated numerous times in numerous ways, by other posters.  
Hopefully, in time this will change.  It is not about censorship or 
limiting free speech, it is about common courtesy.

-andy diller
ps. I'm being serious

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Re: [UC] Tone of List

2005-02-17 Thread Stephen Fisher 
Actually Jeff created a new list after the last round of complaints.  
It's called univcity-announce (univcity-announce@list.purple.com).  
While it's still not as heavily used as it should be, it's for people 
announcing things relevant to UC.  Basically all of the announcements 
that now go to univcity should be going to the announce list.  Thus 
people subscribed to the announce list can still see the announcements 
without the amusing, little in-jokes and repartees.  You might 
consider joining that list instead of univcity.

Any group of 300+ people is bound to contain bickering and gossip.  That 
seems pretty unavoidable in our society.  Given the number of people on 
the list and the number of people in this area with strong opinions, I 
think the level of chatter is usually pretty reasonable.  Personally I 
really appreciate the chatter on the list.  I've met numerous people 
through the list and it's largely due to the chatter.

Just my 2 cents,
Stephen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wanted to let you know, I've gotten a lot of emails over the past 
few months from people who (like myself) are reluctant to post to this 
list because some of the just dowright rude comments certain posts 
have engendered.  This is really too bad, because it means that we are 
missing out on informative/interesting/humorous commentary relevant to 
our neighborhood. I honestly think, that while some of exchanges are 
amusing, little in-jokes and repartees, are not really appropriate to 
this list - would be more appropriate to personal email.  I have hear 
my view of this stated numerous times in numerous ways, by other 
posters.  Hopefully, in time this will change.  It is not about 
censorship or limiting free speech, it is about common courtesy.
 
Marlene Levy

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RE: [UC] Tone of List

2005-02-17 Thread Jonathan Cass 
Does this mean I have to stop my Diller the Crime Fighter, What is up
with Beth Showell and her e-mail style, and That Crazy Pete Coyne series
of posts?  Oh please don't say I have to stop. It gives me such joy!

Jonathan A. Cass
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mario Giorno
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Tone of List


Marlene,

 I second that emotion.


Mario Giorno


On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:40:17 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just wanted to let you know, I've gotten a lot of emails over the past few
 months from people who (like myself) are reluctant to post to this list
 because some of the just dowright rude comments certain posts have
 engendered.  This is really too bad, because it means that we are missing
 out on informative/interesting/humorous commentary relevant to our
 neighborhood. I honestly think, that while some of exchanges are amusing,
 little in-jokes and repartees, are not really appropriate to this list -
 would be more appropriate to personal email.  I have hear my view of this
 stated numerous times in numerous ways, by other posters.  Hopefully, in
 time this will change.  It is not about censorship or limiting free
speech,
 it is about common courtesy.

 Marlene Levy

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[UC] new UCD head

2005-02-17 Thread Matthew Snyder 
Anyone have the scoop on the new ED of the UCD, Lewis C. Wendell? 
Looks like he's an out-of-towner who most recently was the deputy
commish of development for New Rochelle, NY.

There's not much info in the press release:
  http://www.universitycitydistrict.org/press_releases/pr_02_08_05.cfm

Matthew

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Re: [UC] Fwd: [phillyblocks] Rename West River Drive?

2005-02-17 Thread Bill Sanderson 



Martin Luther King Jr. does have some Philadelphia history.

http://www.afsc.org/about/hist/king.htm

http://www.philamlk.org/about_02.htm

I'm probably not the best person to expound on this, and the links above 
don't indicate a substantial amount of time spent here, but there were crucial 
interactions, both for his life and for the lives of people he touched in our 
city.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: univcity@list.purple.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:58 
  AM
  Subject: [UC] Fwd: [phillyblocks] Rename 
  West River Drive?
  
  
  In a message dated 2/17/2005 7:40:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  
  Naming 
the drive after MLK is political pander to a gulible public. 
  
  
  Nice piece. How right you are. I'm surprised Ed posted it, since he is 
  the current mayor's fawning lap dog and back-channel PR piece.
  
  While MLK Jr. has no Phila history, if there is an arterial that needs to 
  be used to spread the teachings of MLK, Jr., it is North Broad St. If they 
  really want to celebrate the meaning of his life, rename North Broad St. "MLK 
  Jr. Way" Try to stop the young men and women killing each other through 
  violence, and poisoning each other with drugs. Not to mention the harm they 
  visit upon their own families.
  
  But, this isn't about celebrating the life and ways of MLK, Jr., its 
  about sending a disturbing autocratic message about "Black Power"; just like 
  "the brothers and sisters are in charge" or whatever self-serving pabulum John 
  Street spewed. It also diverts attention away from the US/DOJ corruption 
  prosecutions.
  
  What a shame for Our Wonderful City.
  
  Ciao,
  
  Craig 
  
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Re: [UC] Tone of List

2005-02-17 Thread MLamond 

In a message dated 2/17/05 2:42:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Just wanted to let you know, I've gotten a lot of emails over the past few months from people who (like myself) are reluctant to post to this list because some of the just dowright rude comments certain posts have engendered.  This is really too bad, because it means that we are missing out on informative/interesting/humorous commentary relevant to our neighborhood. I honestly think, that while some of exchanges are amusing, little in-jokes and repartees, are not really appropriate to this list - would be more appropriate to personal email.  I have hear my view of this stated numerous times in numerous ways, by other posters.  Hopefully, in time this will change.  It is not about censorship or limiting free speech, it is about common courtesy.

 Marlene Levy

Three cheers for Marlene Levy!

Melani Lamond

[UC] Wiretap transcripts?

2005-02-17 Thread John Ellingsworth 
Anyone know where they were released to?
I sure would like to get a copy of them.
They do not seem to be available on phila.gov ;)
-- Thanks,
John Ellingsworth
2005-02-17

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RE: [UC] Tone of List

2005-02-17 Thread Mayer, Ann 









Amen to Marlenes
observations. 



At least some of us would

Like to see this listserve be more
oriented towards the needs and interests of the local community 

and would hope that persons into trashing

Others and/or trying to use the list for
personal obsessions that are not of general interest would set up

THEIR OWN listserves where they could
share their comments with kindred souls.



And, now that Marlene and I have gone on
the record, I guess we can be expected

To receive lots of snide, insulting, and
crude emails attacking us. Oh, well.



Ann Mayer 



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday,
 February 17, 2005 2:40 PM
To: univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Tone of List





Just
wanted to let you know, I've gotten a lot of emails over the past few months
from people who (like myself) are reluctant to post to this list because some
of the just dowright rude comments certain posts have engendered. This is
really too bad, because it means that we are missing out on
informative/interesting/humorous commentary relevant to our neighborhood. I
honestly think, that while some of exchanges are amusing, little in-jokes and
repartees, are not really appropriate to this list - would be more appropriate
to personal email. I have hear my view of this stated numerous times in
numerous ways, by other posters. Hopefully, in time this will
change. It is not about censorship or limiting free speech, it is about
common courtesy.











Marlene
Levy

[UC] In the spirit of complaining . . .

2005-02-17 Thread John Ellingsworth 
I offer a slightly modified old joke:
 Q:  How many listserv subscribers does it take to change the UC list?
 A:  1,331:
 1 to post to the mail list that the uclist has changed
14 to share similar experiences of changing lists and how the 
uclist could have been changed differently.

 7 to caution about the dangers of changing the UC list.
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts
53 to flame the spell checkers
   156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the 
discussion and its inappropriateness to the list.

41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
   109 to post that this list is not about culture and to please take 
this email exchange to culture

   203 to demand that cross posting be stopped.
   111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all live in 
UC and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list.

   306 to debate which list is superior
27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different lists
14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post 
corrected URLs.

 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant 
to this list which makes other lists relevant to this list.

33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all 
headers and footers, and then add Me Too.

12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they 
cannot handle the list controversey.

19 to quote the Me Too's to say, Me Three.
 4 to suggest that posters request the list FAQ.
 1 to propose new listserv.
47 to say this is just what the list was meant for, leave it here.
   143 votes for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Thanks,
John Ellingsworth
2005-02-17

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Fw: [UC] Tone of List

2005-02-17 Thread Joe Clarke 



I delete large segments of messages anticipating that they 
are,regardless of the issue, simply more of the same. 



Joe Clarke
Three cheers for Marlene Levy!Melani 
Lamond

[UC] links

2005-02-17 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali 
Title: Message



Councilwoman Jannie 
Blackwell's web-site:

http://www.phila.gov/citycouncil/blackwell/index.html

The Paul Robeson 
House to be restored:

http://www.preservationalliance.com/news_robeson.php


S.

Re: [UC] Tone of List

2005-02-17 Thread Craigsolve 




In a message dated 2/17/2005 3:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
turned 
  over a new leaf myself. .. only post helpful, positive 
things.

Life revolving around UC and its community of intelligentsia is not meant 
to be bland and banal.

To paraphrase Special K, if that's what you want live in Villanova (and 
shop at the Acme in Wayne). Everything will be hunky-dory as long as you don't 
disturb someone's parking.

The wild west is still appropriate for UC: quick sharp people,who 
hold wildlydivergent points of view. And, with the exception of two of 
you, your/our altered states of consciousness are due to our regular brain 
chemistry.

What happened to all of you who used to believe, come feel the noise?

Ciao,

Craig

RE: [UC] Tone of List

2005-02-17 Thread Samuel Nicolary 
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, KAREN ALLEN wrote:

 
 I agree. Another offshoot of this is rude, nasty and insulting comments made
 offlist in response to something that was said onlist.  And the writers
 obviously know they're being insulting, or else they'd have posted their
 comments to the list.   I find this particularly offensive, because if anyone
 has read any of the things I have posted in the past, I make it a point to
 argue the facts or my own personal opinion, and to deliberately avoid getting
 personal with the person I'm responding to.   But ad hominem attacks are a
 common tactic of those who don't know what they're talking about and therefore
 cannot otherwise refute the speaker's logic.
 
 I think that writing from the relative anonymity of a computer screen
 emboldens those who would otherwise think twice about saying the same thing to
 someone's face.  And a lot of the people who do this think they're being
 funny, but if they were, they'd be in Hollywood or Vegas or somewhere.

I find this amusing coming from someone who expressed the desire to
castrate me with a rusty machete on the culture list - but maybe you are
specifically referring to the UC list however - excuse me if that is the 
case.

http://www.mail-archive.com/culture@list.purple.com/msg00251.html

--
Sam Nicolary

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   Just wanted to let you know, I've gotten a lot of emails over the past few
   months from people who (like myself) are reluctant to post to this list
   because some of the just dowright rude comments certain posts have
   engendered.  This is really too bad, because it means that we are missing
   out on informative/interesting/humorous commentary relevant to our
   neighborhood. I honestly think, that while some of exchanges are amusing,
   little in-jokes and repartees, are not really appropriate to this list -
   would be more appropriate to personal email.  I have hear my view of this
   stated numerous times in numerous ways, by other posters.  Hopefully, in
   time this will change.  It is not about censorship or limiting free
  speech,
   it is about common courtesy.
  
   Marlene Levy
  
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Re: [UC] Tone of List - Don't Change

2005-02-17 Thread Craigsolve 




In a message dated 2/17/2005 3:16:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh 
  please don't say I have to stop. It gives me such 
joy!

Unless instructed to do so "by the bench", please carry on. I nowhave 
a lessened need to tell sick lawyer jokes.

I just wont seek your help, if I run a woman over with a bicycle. You did 
handle that case pro bono, reinforcing the adage you get what you pay for? ;~}

Ciao,

Craig

[UC] tone of list

2005-02-17 Thread Marlevi 



h interesting

i'm not objecting to humor - i definitely enjoy irreverence and believe 
me there is plenty to be irreverent about in uc...and i don't want just 
announcements, and boring, bland discussion.

and i don't mind chatter...

what i'm talking about inside chatter which is only comprehensible to a 
few... and personal attacks that make people feel like they don't want to post 
anymore.

free the groundhogs!

marlene

[UC] Fwd: [phillyblocks] Update on the City's Wireless Project

2005-02-17 Thread Craigsolve 



This is one task force member's (Ed Schwartz') personal/biased 
opinion.

Personally, I believe the bar for municipal achievement in our City is set 
very low. Look at ourneighborhoods and see the rampant disorder, because 
of a lack of a coherent municipal strategic vision. Our lack of attractiveness 
to outsiders, is only lost on our municipal leaders.

Monday's Daily News featured a significant piece onrecreational 
development targeting the core Fairmount Park System. However important the 
program may be, it will not create new capital for our City. WiFi done right 
will lead to the creation of new capital ()as well as operational 
savings. Why wont our City approach this strategic issue in a measured and 
disciplined manner.

If I am an out of town business owner, I am more concerned about the 
availability of reliable utilities, of which WiFi is one, and what appears to be 
a governmental climate of pay-to-play. Philadelphia being so provincial does not 
realize the rest of the world considers our form of P2P political 
corruption.

Speaking of P2P, those of you not old time Philly people, will be surprised 
to learn most Philadelphians still think P2P (phenyl-2-propanone ) is what you 
use to cook meth; a thriving part of our local low-tech pharmaceutical 
industry.

May God save our City!

Craig MelidosianRealSolutions NetworkP O Box 33355Phila 
PA 19142-0555215-724-8148 24hr voice/fax215-724-3212 
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---BeginMessage---







As many on PhillyBlocks know, I sit on the City's Wireless Executive
Committee that has met since last fall to develop recommendations on how
the City can and should move forward in putting the Wireless Plan into
effect.
Our report was submitted to the Mayor in December. We've met further with
him in January. We are as impatient as anyone for the Mayor to make
official whatever the City's ultimate recommendation will be. Based on
the discussions we've had, however, I believe that the City will move
forward with most--if not all--of what we propose. 
The bottom line here is that the project is far from being 'dead on the
vine.' In fact, the delay stems primarily from the Mayor's need to be
sure of all aspects of what we recommend so that the proposal isn't shot
down once we go public. Needless to say, there are just a few other
problems and issues facing the City right now, but this is a priority, so
I expect a full announcement fairly soon.
As to the story in the New York Times: Yes, indeed, it is a 'puff' piece.
Why exactly should we upset about that? When was the last time the New
York Times ran a 'puff piece' on anything involved with Philadelphia--or
the Wall Street Journal and the Associated Press and business magazines
all over the country, for that matter? They've all written about
Philadelphia's wireless plan. In fact, this initiative has given
Philadelphia more favorable publicity related to economic development
than any project I've seen in the past thirty years. All the more reason
that we need to make it work. But let's be pleased for a
change that our efforts here are getting this kind of attention.
As to the op-ed piece from the Philadelphia Inquirer that I link to
here:

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/editorial/1091.htm
Scott Walstein, the author, works for the corporate-backed American
Enterprise Institute so this is the industry fighting back.
He makes three points.
1. Going wireless won't end the digital divide. Of course it won't.
But it will provide enormous, immediate benefit to the 58% of
Philadelphia residents and businesses who now have Internet access and
create a new impetus for bringing everyone online. I've been working this
area for ten years, since the now-dead LibertyNet was established to be a
Delaware Valley portal--and then died because neither the private sector
nor the City were willing to support it. We've survived (and you all
benefit from that), but this is the first time that the City itself has
made establishing Internet access throughout Philadelphia a priority.
That creates new opportunities to bring everyone online.
2. The wireless technology will be obsolete before we're up and running.
Hmmm...WiFi is what's out there now. WiMax is selling itself as an
alternative to DSL and Cable. Somehow, Verizon and Comcast seem to think
that this technology will be here long enough for them to take advantage
of it. The City intends to be up and running by September, 2006. Isn't it
interesting that the corporations involved in this industry are angry
that we're doing this because they are making money in this area.
But then they turn around and say it's a losing proposition for the City.
Duly noted.
3. The wireless plan will use taxpayers' dollars. It won't--beyond the
administrative time now being spent on putting the program together. I
can't say much more about that now, because it gets into the details of
the proposal. But I can

[UC] Re: [phillyblocks] Update on the City's Wireless Project

2005-02-17 Thread Craigsolve 




In a message dated 2/17/2005 4:21:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As to 
  the op-ed piece from the Philadelphia Inquirer that I link to 
  here: 
  http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/editorial/1091.htm 
  Scott Walstein, the author, works for the corporate-backed 
  American Enterprise Institute so this is the industry fighting 
  back.A sweeping statement. I'd like to see your proof for 
  that.



Laura:

Thanks! I have stopped posting to the list because Ed refused to post a 
piece I submitted to generate discussion about our City's WiFi and digital 
divide issues. Apparently, my piece struck a nerve with him. He told me 
phillyblocks wasn't interested, and I was arrogant.

Our mayor's WiFi task force is not a true municipal task force. It 
has badly mismanaged legislative initiatives surround this matter, which have 
been moving along for the past four years. Now Street and Schwartz want the 
whole State to march to the beat of their drum. No wonder the rest of our 
Commonwealth has no patience with Philadelphia County.

Ciao,

Craig

[UC] Re: [UC-Announce] subscribe

2005-02-17 Thread Jeff Abrahamson 
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 05:49:51PM -0500, Joe Clarke wrote:
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 How do you subscribe to this list?  Would posts looking for advice
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Apparently you're already subscribed, probably because you are sub'ed
to univcity.

You should post to univcity if you want replies.  The
univcity-announce list is for things for which you don't expect a
response.  Responses to univcity-announce go to univcity.

Note, though, that all mail to univcity-announce also goes to univcity.

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[UC] tone of list

2005-02-17 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali 
Title: Message



Marlene thank you, I 
know you get it.

I find all the 
personal attacks very juvenile, grade schoolish.
It reminds me of my 
sons, their friends, and their stories.

I forget at times 
these people are "neighbors"..people 
whoactually live near me and walk the same streets. 


"Yo! Don't 
ask me for 
a cup of Joe, I'm not buying!"

There is no real 
social scene out here in UC, so people look 
to this 
list for 
interaction. The lack of adult recreation is a real 
problem 
here in UC, 
unlike CC, Fairmount, or Northern Liberties.

Years ago..we all 
went to community meetings or 
"community theatre" 
to exchange 
our views. Now..everyone is 
too busy and 
cowardly to face each other in person, so theyhide 
behind a 
computer 
and develop synthetic relationships that are so 
popular 
these 
days.

We have a long way 
to go people. (and for some folks, it is to the
moon!)

S.

Re: [UC] tone of list - grade schoolish

2005-02-17 Thread Craigsolve 




In a message dated 2/17/2005 7:21:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
sali@voicenet.com writes:

  I find all the 
  personal attacks very juvenile, grade schoolish.
  It reminds me of 
  my sons, their friends, and their 
stories.

Some years back, there was Robert Fulgham's- All I Ever Really Needed to 
Know I Learned in Kindergarten. Patterning of bad behavior is difficult to 
stop, especially when there is an acceptable payoff. Personal attacks are very 
common in the press, higher education, and government. So, people stick with a 
winning strategy. And if verbal abuse doesn't work, kill'em; alsoknown as 
asymmetrical warfare by freedom fighters or the Powell Doctrine by the armies of 
God.

Of course there is Mr Rogers' way:

Everything I Needed 
to know
 
I learned in kindergarten
Share 
Everything
Play 
Fair
Don't hit 
people
Put things back 
where you found them
Clean up your own 
mess
Don't take things 
that aren't yours
Say you're sorry 
when you hurt somebody
Wash your hands 
before you eat
Flush
Warm cookies and 
milk are good for you
Live a balanced 
life
Take a nap every 
afternoon
When you go out in 
the world, watch out for traffic, 
Hold hands and 
stick together
Be aware of 
wonder
All things 
dieSo do we
Based on a work by 
Roger Ebsen
Ciao,
Craig

Re: [UC] Tone of List

2005-02-17 Thread Andrew Diller 
Man, those were the good old days... that was the best thread I ever 
read on these lists, ever. Poor Bambi, I wonder where she is now.

Samuel Nicolary wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, KAREN ALLEN wrote:

I think that writing from the relative anonymity of a computer screen
emboldens those who would otherwise think twice about saying the same thing to
someone's face.  And a lot of the people who do this think they're being
funny, but if they were, they'd be in Hollywood or Vegas or somewhere.

I find this amusing coming from someone who expressed the desire to
castrate me with a rusty machete on the culture list - but maybe you are
specifically referring to the UC list however - excuse me if that is the 
case.

http://www.mail-archive.com/culture@list.purple.com/msg00251.html
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RE: [UC] Tone of List

2005-02-17 Thread KAREN ALLEN 
From: Samuel Nicolary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Samuel Nicolary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: KAREN ALLEN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: RE: [UC] Tone of List
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:05:40 -0500 (EST)
RE:   I find this amusing coming from someone who expressed the desire to
castrate me with a rusty machete on the culture list - but maybe you are
specifically referring to the UC list however - excuse me if that is the
case.

Yo, Sam, where have you been hiding yourself this past year.  As always, 
taking things out of context.  Let’s look at what was actually said, shall 
we?

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyhow, Bambi finally had to go. With her incessant sexual demands and
really outrageous libido it made it hard for me to get any work done on my  
dissertation. So I took her to a shelter. Don't know what they did with her 
and don't wanna know.
You could have had the following procedure done to curb her appetite a
bit:  There is an article in Jane this month about the resurgence of 
women having this voluntarily done to themselves so that they may focus on 
leasing their partner more instead of just themselves.

Poor Bambi...she probably ended up in a can of Friskies - mouth bit et 
al.

--
Sam Nicolary


To which I responded:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, KAREN ALLEN wrote:
KAREN ALLEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe my sense of humor is not as sophisticated as yours, and I'm still 
amazed at how a simple posting of pet photos became twisted into what's 
being posted now, but I find your current attempt at humor (if that's 
what it's supposed to be) to be patently offensive.
Karen Alllen

To which you responded:
RE:  Well, thank heavens for people like you or else I don't know where we 
would find ourselves! Everybody would just be writing emails about whatever 
they wanted to any public forum they wanted to!

To which I responded:
You know, Sam, you're absolutely right-- thank you for enlightening me. Who 
am I and prudes like me to try to censor your free expression in a public 
(or should that be pubic?) forum? But I'm confused, Sam, because you only 
wrote about women in bondage, and women having clitoral circumsion. Where's 
the photos and discussion about bondage of men? I'll certainly look at that. 
And why didn't you post a website telling us all about the the pleasures of 
male castration? After all think of all the pleasure there would be in 
photos of some woman dressed in (let's see...maybe spiked heels and fishnet 
stockings carrying this dull, rusty machete and...) oops, but I digress. 
Yeah, Sam, that would be great if you could expand your research to, you 
know, balance things out a bit, give the ladies equal time. So as soon as 
you can find a website extolling the pleasures of male castration, e-mail me 
back. I'll be waiting, and I'll even bring the rusty machete.
Karen Allen

So get it straight Sam. If you're going to tell the story, tell the whole 
story.
Karen Allen


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RE: [UC] tone of list (social scene in w. philly)

2005-02-17 Thread Kyle Cassidy 
Title: RE: [UC] tone of list (social scene in w. philly)






There is no real social scene out here in UC, so people look 
to this list for interaction. The lack of adult recreation is a real 
problem here in UC, unlike CC, Fairmount, or Northern Liberties.


while i agree that we need better places to go around here than strikes -- (oh, if only Fume was called no fume ... ) i want to add that for me in the past year or so, this list _has_ become the social scene. there are half a dozen good friends i've met through this list who help occupy all the vacant moments that christy and i may have during the course of the week and have enriched both our lives and our enjoyment of this little community to no end. 

kc

Re: [UC] Tone of List

2005-02-17 Thread Andrew Diller 
Reaching the moral high ground at last, and enjoying my own personal 
enlightment, I've come to realize that it's posts like these from Karen 
that are turning the list into a poison pit!

KAREN ALLEN wrote:
Yo, Sam, where have you been hiding yourself this past year.  As always, 
taking things out of context.  Lets look at what was actually said, 
shall we?  ... I'll be waiting, and I'll even bring the rusty machete.
Karen Allen


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Re: [UC] Tone of List - Don't Change

2005-02-17 Thread Jonathan Cass 
Not to burst the feel good lawyer bubble, but actually, Lee and Carlos had 
insurance coverage through their store and their carrir paid for their defense 
(i.e., my fees).

For what it is worth, I did win some muckity muck award last year for my pro 
bono service through the Philadelphia Volunteer Lawyers for the Indigent.  I 
have developed this bizarre speciality in representing clients who purchased a 
car only to have the dealer or tag service not transfer the title into their 
name leaving them the equitable, but not titled owner of the vehicle.  

Jonathan A. Cass

-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:08:41 EST

 
In a message dated 2/17/2005 3:16:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Oh  please don't say I have to stop. It gives me such  joy!



Unless instructed to do so by the bench, please carry on. I now have  a 
lessened need to tell sick lawyer jokes.
 
I just wont seek your help, if I run a woman over with a bicycle. You did  
handle that case pro bono, reinforcing the adage you get what you pay for? ;~}
 
Ciao,
 
Craig


 





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Re: [UC] Tone of List Violence towards men

2005-02-17 Thread Craigsolve 




In a message dated 2/17/2005 9:32:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So as 
  soon as you can find a website extolling the pleasures of male castration, 
  e-mail me back. I'll be waiting, and I'll even bring the rusty 
  machete.

You are describing four distinct actions in the above sentence. As to which 
one are you kidding? You are kidding?

The world is full of nuts. The web is full of wonder.

You are kidding?

Ross, you hope she's not kidding?

Somewhere, a man is afraid to fall asleep tonight.