[UC-Announce] Recycle NOW West Phila wants you to go to the Flower Show for free!

2007-03-01 Thread Lewis Mellman

Recycle NOW West Phila wants you to go to the Flower Show for free!
Your friends and neighbors at RNWP bring you another opportunity to help you 
help us improve recycling and save the City tens of millions of dollars each 
year and get you in free to the Phila Flower Show.
The catch?  You have to sit through a Mayoral Candidates Forum and ask a 
recycling question and/or sign the RNP petition: 
http://www.recyclenowphila.org/TakeAction.asp

Actually you don't really have to do either, but why wouldn't you?
Here are some hot sample questions that you are welcome to recycle off me:

Will you commit to implementing a city-wide, incentive-based single-stream, 
weekly curbside collection recycling program and begin the roll-out in 
University City, of course?


Will your administration continue to look the other way while the Streets 
Department waste smillions of our tax dollars that could be spent on the new 
West Philly High School or the Clark Park renewal plan?


Why is Phila continuing to violate its own mandatory waste diversion law?

Detroit Recycles more than us.  How pathetic it THAT?

Or something else recyling-related.  No under-handed soft-ball pitches like 
the old, played-out, Do you like recycling?.  That's sow 2006.  Everybody 
(except the dirt-balls on Kyle's block) likes recycling.
If you agree to bring one of our fantastic RNWP signs, I'll let you bust 
line ahead of me.  I'll be the guy with the Clark Park Wants to Recycle 
sign.



Here's the officail invite that I recycled especially for you from the PA 
Envir Council:


The Council is excited to share this opportunity with you.  Here is a 
chance to hear the candidates discuss issues that are both critical to the 
Council's work and important to Philadelphians' quality of life - open 
space, greenways, vacant land, stormwater, parks, and access to our natural 
resources.  My apologies for any double postings.


Join the Pennsylvania Horticultural Society, the Pennsylvania Environmental 
Council and the Philadelphia Parks Alliance for a Mayoral Forum on Monday, 
March 5th from 6.00 to 7.30 pm at the Pennsylvania Convention Center:


Location:  Pennsylvania Convention Center, Room 114, Auditorium (13th Street 
Entrance, between Arch and Race Streets)

Date:  Monday, March 5, 2007
Time:  6 to 7:30 pm (Doors will open at 5 pm)

Limited Seating
Advance reservations are required.

Acceptances only - please call 215.988.8788 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Thursday, 
March 1, 2007


Confirmations will not be sent.
Latecomers will be admitted to overflow seating with simulcast in an 
adjacent room.


Free Flower Show admission after the Forum.



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[UC] SHCA's zoning committee hearing on the liquore store has been postponed

2007-03-01 Thread Krfapt
 
From today's DP
News Brief: Committee postpones liquor board  hearing

_Jared Miller_ 
(http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/user/index.cfm?event=displayAuthorProfileauthorid=2517506)
 
 

The Spruce Hill Zoning Committee has postponed its  discussion of a proposed 
move of the campus liquor store, committee chairman  Barry Grossbach said.

The committee was slated to debate the move - which  would have brought the 
liquor store, currently located at 41st and Market  streets, to the corner of 
43rd and Walnut streets - at a hearing yesterday but  decided to hold off to 
allow the affected parties to try to resolve their  differences outside of a 
formal meeting, Grossbach said.

A zoning hearing  is now scheduled for March 21; Grossbach said the committee 
will be forced to  make a decision regardless of whether any compromises are 
made.

The  Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board has denied the move will take place, 
but both  community officials and the building's developer have confirmed that 
preliminary  discussions have been ongoing.

The prospect of a liquor store in the area  has raised some controversy in 
the area, as both the Masjid Al-Jamia Mosque and  the Penn-Alexander K-8 school 
are located in the area.

Members of the  mosque have voiced strong opposition to the move, both 
because it is illegal to  drink alcohol under Muslim law and because of the 
negative 
effect a liquor store  might have on the neighborhood.


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RE: [UC] SHCA's zoning committee hearing on the liquore store has been postponed

2007-03-01 Thread Turner,Kathleen
Members of the mosque have voiced strong opposition to the move, both
because it is illegal to drink alcohol under Muslim law
 
And this is where I have some serious problems with this.  
 
By Catholic law I cannot eat meat on Fridays during Lent -- does that
mean that Abbraccio (and all the other grocery stores/restaurants)
within a certain number of blocks of SFDS should not be allowed to sell
meat on Friday?
 
We do not live under Muslim law.
 
If various parties in that area, including the leadership of the Mosque,
want to argue that moving the liquor store might have a negative effect
on the neighborhood, fine.  I'm certainly not thrilled about past the
drunk panhandlers when I go to the state store on Market Street.  I'm
not thrilled about the guys who ask me for money every time I go in to
the A plus at 45th and Baltimore.  If the State Store system is trying
to create a more upscale store, that should include a commitment to
deal aggressively with illegal behavior.
 
Basing neighborhood zoning decisions on the laws of the various
religions that happen to have a base in the area is a VERY slippery
slope.
 
Kathleen
 

 

 



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From today's DP


News Brief: Committee postpones liquor board hearing




Jared Miller
http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/user/index.cfm?event=displayAut
horProfileauthorid=2517506 

 
The Spruce Hill Zoning Committee has postponed its discussion of a
proposed move of the campus liquor store, committee chairman Barry
Grossbach said.

The committee was slated to debate the move - which would have brought
the liquor store, currently located at 41st and Market streets, to the
corner of 43rd and Walnut streets - at a hearing yesterday but decided
to hold off to allow the affected parties to try to resolve their
differences outside of a formal meeting, Grossbach said.

A zoning hearing is now scheduled for March 21; Grossbach said the
committee will be forced to make a decision regardless of whether any
compromises are made.

The Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board has denied the move will take
place, but both community officials and the building's developer have
confirmed that preliminary discussions have been ongoing.

The prospect of a liquor store in the area has raised some controversy
in the area, as both the Masjid Al-Jamia Mosque and the Penn-Alexander
K-8 school are located in the area.

Members of the mosque have voiced strong opposition to the move, both
because it is illegal to drink alcohol under Muslim law and because of
the negative effect a liquor store might have on the neighborhood.






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[UC] anybody going to the milton street rally at noon?

2007-03-01 Thread Kyle Cassidy
I'm thinking of hopping on the train and heading down -- anybody else?
we could make a picnic out of it.
 

kc


Milton: March 1 is do-or-die day

By WENDY RUDERMAN  BOB WARNER

Circus sideshow or serious contender? You decide.

T. Milton Street, who hopes to replace his younger brother as mayor,
offered an interesting political wager yesterday.

Street promised to drop out of the mayoral race if he fails to draw a
minimum of 5,000 supporters to a noon rally at City Hall on March 1.

If they don't show up, then I'm out, Street said. That's the end of
it. You don't have to worry about me again. All right? OK?

As Street called upon the city masses to rise up and join him, another
mayoral candidate beseeched voters and television- news crews to ignore
Street's clown-like antics.

[Street] is a bad joke, said former Councilman Michael Nutter, one of
five other Democrats seeking the mayor's job.

Nutter called a news conference outside City Hall yesterday to denounce
Street for trying to turn a serious election campaign into a local,
regional and, eventually, a national joke.

Nutter commented one day after Street, 67, was arrested in Moorestown,
N.J., on outstanding traffic warrants from 2004. He was freed from the
Burlington County Jail in Mount Holly after posting $3,250 bail.



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Re: [UC] SHCA's zoning committee hearing on the liquore store has been postponed

2007-03-01 Thread Margie Politzer
 Kathleen,
 
 Well said. I agreed 100%.
 
 Margie P. 
 
 
 Members of the mosque have voiced strong opposition to the move, both because
 it is illegal to drink alcohol under Muslim law
  
 And this is where I have some serious problems with this.
  
 By Catholic law I cannot eat meat on Fridays during Lent -- does that mean
 that Abbraccio (and all the other grocery stores/restaurants) within a certain
 number of blocks of SFDS should not be allowed to sell meat on Friday?
  
 We do not live under Muslim law.
  
 If various parties in that area, including the leadership of the Mosque, want
 to argue that moving the liquor store might have a negative effect on the
 neighborhood, fine.  I'm certainly not thrilled about past the drunk
 panhandlers when I go to the state store on Market Street.  I'm not thrilled
 about the guys who ask me for money every time I go in to the A plus at 45th
 and Baltimore.  If the State Store system is trying to create a more upscale
 store, that should include a commitment to deal aggressively with illegal
 behavior.
  
 Basing neighborhood zoning decisions on the laws of the various religions
 that happen to have a base in the area is a VERY slippery slope.
  
 Kathleen
  
  
 
  
 
 
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 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:09 AM
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 Subject: [UC] SHCA's zoning committee hearing on the liquore store has been
 postponed
 
 From today's DP
 News Brief: Committee postpones liquor board hearing
 Jared Miller 
 http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/user/index.cfm?event=displayAuthorPro
 fileamp;authorid=2517506
  
 The Spruce Hill Zoning Committee has postponed its discussion of a proposed
 move of the campus liquor store, committee chairman Barry Grossbach said.
 
 The committee was slated to debate the move - which would have brought the
 liquor store, currently located at 41st and Market streets, to the corner of
 43rd and Walnut streets - at a hearing yesterday but decided to hold off to
 allow the affected parties to try to resolve their differences outside of a
 formal meeting, Grossbach said.
 
 A zoning hearing is now scheduled for March 21; Grossbach said the committee
 will be forced to make a decision regardless of whether any compromises are
 made.
 
 The Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board has denied the move will take place, but
 both community officials and the building's developer have confirmed that
 preliminary discussions have been ongoing.
 
 The prospect of a liquor store in the area has raised some controversy in the
 area, as both the Masjid Al-Jamia Mosque and the Penn-Alexander K-8 school are
 located in the area.
 
 Members of the mosque have voiced strong opposition to the move, both because
 it is illegal to drink alcohol under Muslim law and because of the negative
 effect a liquor store might have on the neighborhood.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [UC] anybody going to the milton street rally at noon?

2007-03-01 Thread Margie Politzer
I have a feeling that 5,000 people may just show up, but not too many of
them will be supporters.

Personally, I would prefer that his bubble gets burst now rather than later.

Margie P.


 I'm thinking of hopping on the train and heading down -- anybody else?
 we could make a picnic out of it.
 
 
 kc
 
 
 Milton: March 1 is do-or-die day
 
 By WENDY RUDERMAN  BOB WARNER
 
 Circus sideshow or serious contender? You decide.
 
 T. Milton Street, who hopes to replace his younger brother as mayor,
 offered an interesting political wager yesterday.
 
 Street promised to drop out of the mayoral race if he fails to draw a
 minimum of 5,000 supporters to a noon rally at City Hall on March 1.
 
 If they don't show up, then I'm out, Street said. That's the end of
 it. You don't have to worry about me again. All right? OK?
 
 As Street called upon the city masses to rise up and join him, another
 mayoral candidate beseeched voters and television- news crews to ignore
 Street's clown-like antics.
 
 [Street] is a bad joke, said former Councilman Michael Nutter, one of
 five other Democrats seeking the mayor's job.
 
 Nutter called a news conference outside City Hall yesterday to denounce
 Street for trying to turn a serious election campaign into a local,
 regional and, eventually, a national joke.
 
 Nutter commented one day after Street, 67, was arrested in Moorestown,
 N.J., on outstanding traffic warrants from 2004. He was freed from the
 Burlington County Jail in Mount Holly after posting $3,250 bail.
 
 
 
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[UC] Recycle NOW West Phila wants you to go to the Flower Show for free!

2007-03-01 Thread Lewis Mellman

Recycle NOW West Phila wants you to go to the Flower Show for free!
Your friends and neighbors at RNWP bring you another opportunity to help you 
help us improve recycling and save the City tens of millions of dollars each 
year and get you in free to the Phila Flower Show.
The catch?  You have to sit through a Mayoral Candidates Forum and ask a 
recycling question and/or sign the RNP petition: 
http://www.recyclenowphila.org/TakeAction.asp

Actually you don't really have to do either, but why wouldn't you?
Here are some hot sample questions that you are welcome to recycle off me:

Will you commit to implementing a city-wide, incentive-based single-stream, 
weekly curbside collection recycling program and begin the roll-out in 
University City, of course?


Will your administration continue to look the other way while the Streets 
Department waste smillions of our tax dollars that could be spent on the new 
West Philly High School or the Clark Park renewal plan?


Why is Phila continuing to violate its own mandatory waste diversion law?

Detroit Recycles more than us.  How pathetic it THAT?

Or something else recyling-related.  No under-handed soft-ball pitches like 
the old, played-out, Do you like recycling?.  That's sow 2006.  Everybody 
(except the dirt-balls on Kyle's block) likes recycling.
If you agree to bring one of our fantastic RNWP signs, I'll let you bust 
line ahead of me.  I'll be the guy with the Clark Park Wants to Recycle 
sign.



Here's the officail invite that I recycled especially for you from the PA 
Envir Council:


The Council is excited to share this opportunity with you.  Here is a 
chance to hear the candidates discuss issues that are both critical to the 
Council's work and important to Philadelphians' quality of life - open 
space, greenways, vacant land, stormwater, parks, and access to our natural 
resources.  My apologies for any double postings.


Join the Pennsylvania Horticultural Society, the Pennsylvania Environmental 
Council and the Philadelphia Parks Alliance for a Mayoral Forum on Monday, 
March 5th from 6.00 to 7.30 pm at the Pennsylvania Convention Center:


Location:  Pennsylvania Convention Center, Room 114, Auditorium (13th Street 
Entrance, between Arch and Race Streets)

Date:  Monday, March 5, 2007
Time:  6 to 7:30 pm (Doors will open at 5 pm)

Limited Seating
Advance reservations are required.

Acceptances only - please call 215.988.8788 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Thursday, 
March 1, 2007


Confirmations will not be sent.
Latecomers will be admitted to overflow seating with simulcast in an 
adjacent room.


Free Flower Show admission after the Forum.



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RE: [UC] anybody going to the milton street rally at noon?

2007-03-01 Thread Turner,Kathleen
Ya know, it takes a lot to make me feel sorry for John Street, but . . .


Kathleen 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Margie Politzer
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:42 AM
To: University City listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] anybody going to the milton street rally at noon?

I have a feeling that 5,000 people may just show up, but not too many of
them will be supporters.

Personally, I would prefer that his bubble gets burst now rather than
later.

Margie P.


 I'm thinking of hopping on the train and heading down -- anybody else?
 we could make a picnic out of it.
 
 
 kc
 
 
 Milton: March 1 is do-or-die day
 
 By WENDY RUDERMAN  BOB WARNER
 
 Circus sideshow or serious contender? You decide.
 
 T. Milton Street, who hopes to replace his younger brother as mayor, 
 offered an interesting political wager yesterday.
 
 Street promised to drop out of the mayoral race if he fails to draw a 
 minimum of 5,000 supporters to a noon rally at City Hall on March 1.
 
 If they don't show up, then I'm out, Street said. That's the end of

 it. You don't have to worry about me again. All right? OK?
 
 As Street called upon the city masses to rise up and join him, another

 mayoral candidate beseeched voters and television- news crews to 
 ignore Street's clown-like antics.
 
 [Street] is a bad joke, said former Councilman Michael Nutter, one 
 of five other Democrats seeking the mayor's job.
 
 Nutter called a news conference outside City Hall yesterday to 
 denounce Street for trying to turn a serious election campaign into a

 local, regional and, eventually, a national joke.
 
 Nutter commented one day after Street, 67, was arrested in Moorestown,

 N.J., on outstanding traffic warrants from 2004. He was freed from the

 Burlington County Jail in Mount Holly after posting $3,250 bail.
 
 
 
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RE: [UC] anybody going to the milton street rally at noon?

2007-03-01 Thread J. Matthew Wolfe
It is critical that all Republicans who can attend and show support for
Milton do so.  His candidacy as a Democrat could be a great boost to
Republican chances.

Matt Wolfe



J. Matthew Wolfe
The Law Office of Alice W. Ballard, PC
1616 Walnut Street, Suite 2205
Philadelphia, PA  19103
(215) 893-9990
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Philadelphia, PA  19104
(215) 387-7300

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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:39 AM
To: Kyle Cassidy
Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com
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 If they don't show up, then I'm out, Street said. That's the end of
 it. You don't have to worry about me again. All right? OK?

You mean that we won't have Milty Street to kick around anymore?
Jim Cummings

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Re: [UC] anybody going to the milton street rally at noon?

2007-03-01 Thread Susan Jacobson
Four of my 16 student production groups in audio=visual newsgathering did 
pieces about Why Is Milton Street Running for Mayor?

sj

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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:19:24 -0500
From: Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: [UC] anybody going to the milton street rally at noon?  
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com

I'm thinking of hopping on the train and heading down -- anybody else?
we could make a picnic out of it.
 

kc


Milton: March 1 is do-or-die day

By WENDY RUDERMAN  BOB WARNER

Circus sideshow or serious contender? You decide.

T. Milton Street, who hopes to replace his younger brother as mayor,
offered an interesting political wager yesterday.

Street promised to drop out of the mayoral race if he fails to draw a
minimum of 5,000 supporters to a noon rally at City Hall on March 1.

If they don't show up, then I'm out, Street said. That's the end of
it. You don't have to worry about me again. All right? OK?

As Street called upon the city masses to rise up and join him, another
mayoral candidate beseeched voters and television- news crews to ignore
Street's clown-like antics.

[Street] is a bad joke, said former Councilman Michael Nutter, one of
five other Democrats seeking the mayor's job.

Nutter called a news conference outside City Hall yesterday to denounce
Street for trying to turn a serious election campaign into a local,
regional and, eventually, a national joke.

Nutter commented one day after Street, 67, was arrested in Moorestown,
N.J., on outstanding traffic warrants from 2004. He was freed from the
Burlington County Jail in Mount Holly after posting $3,250 bail.



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Temple University
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[UC] Zoning and the proposed liquore store on Walnut Street

2007-03-01 Thread Vincent/Roger
Kathleen Turner wrote:
If the State Store system is trying to create a more upscale store, that 
should include a commitment to deal aggressively with illegal behavior.
In the midst of a bunch of holier-than-thou messages, I really believe that 
Kathleen has stated the case for or against the liquor store in the most 
logical way.

If the Zoning process and subsequent enforcement are done properly, then a new 
establishment should always be required to conduct itself responsibly.  My 
understanding is that property owners/tenants (depending on how a lease is 
written) are responsible for the sidewalk out in front of their premises and 
any parking areas under their control.  This includes keeping the surface in 
good repair, snow shoveled, trash picked up, etc.  Plus I take it to mean that 
if there are panhandlers, loiterers, prostititues, drug dealers, vagrants on 
these premises, it is the property owners/tenants responsibility to deal with 
it.  By the way, we at Abbraccio have to deal with this type of issue 
freqently; sometimes it means calling the police.   

The main argument AGAINST the liquor store, in my opinion, is their past 
failure to take any responsibility for outside of their premises.  If someone 
really wanted to fight the proposal at Zoning, I recommend taking a videotape 
of a few hours of the front of the current store at 41st and Market.  The front 
of store itself looks like an uninviting hellhole; it seems almost barricaded, 
as if it belongs in Baghdad.  And then of course there are the panhandlers 
normally found all over in front. 
Meanwhile, if the liquor store folk wanted to make a case FOR the move to 
Walnut Street, then I think the best case would be a written ironclad 
commitment to maintaining the entire premises, inside and out, in a responsible 
manner.  A senior LCB should be held accountable for any problems.  (In other 
words, not like at the current store.)

Perhaps you might note that I am not a big fan of the State Store system.  It 
is my opinion that the worse liquor store in New Jersey is still better than 
the best liquor store in Pennsylvania.

Roger


Re: [UC] More about the liquor store/mosque

2007-03-01 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

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No, it was a Linton's, complete with conveyor belt...



hmm... must've been a horn and hardart's at some point. you 
can still see traces of the H, the O, the R, the N, etc. 
along the black stonework above the entranceway.




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Re: [UC] Zoning and the proposed liquore store on Walnut Street

2007-03-01 Thread MLamond
 
 
Roger, you make good points about exterior maintenance.  The landlord  at the 
new location would be Daniel DeRitis whose company is Apartments at  Penn.  
He is a capable and hands-on person who has long been involved  in University 
City clean  safe initiatives, and I believe he will be  able to hold the PLCB 
to their promises to do a good job at the new  location.  It looks like the 
41st  Market landlord didn't care one way  or the other.  We can get one clue 
about the new landlord based on the  maintenance of the location while it was 
Rite Aid.  Though we don't know  the specifics of the lease, it was well cared 
for - an indication that the  landlord either had a lease requiring that, or 
stepped up to the plate when  maintenance was needed.
 
Here's another clue.  Go to the Penn OCL website to see how tenants  have 
rated Apartments at Penn:
_http://dolphin.upenn.edu/~consumer/_ (http://dolphin.upenn.edu/~consumer/) 
These are apartments, not commercial spaces, but you'll see that for the  
three years OCL has ratings, Apartments at Penn has almost entirely As and Bs,  
which is impressive.  
 
While you're on that site, you can also check out Al Krigman's KRF  
Corporation's ratings.  Also mostly As and Bs, but also some Cs, more than  
Apartments 
at Penn has.
 
By the way, it has been pointed out to me that Al's opposition to the new  
liquor store location just MIGHT have something to do with who the landlord is, 
 
since Danny DeRitis is a big supporter of the UCD's NID project.
 
Melani Lamond
 
 
In a message dated 3/1/2007 12:40:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
Kathleen Turner wrote:
If the State Store system is trying to create a more upscale  store, that 
should include a commitment to deal aggressively with illegal  behavior.

In the midst of a bunch of holier-than-thou messages, I really believe  that 
Kathleen has stated the case for or against the liquor store in the most  
logical way.
 
If the Zoning process and subsequent enforcement are done  properly, then a 
new establishment should always be required  to conduct itself responsibly.  My 
understanding is that  property owners/tenants (depending on how a lease is 
written) are  responsible for the sidewalk out in front of their premises and 
any  parking areas under their control.  This includes keeping the surface in  
good repair, snow shoveled, trash picked up, etc.  Plus I take it to  mean 
that if there are panhandlers, loiterers, prostititues, drug dealers,  vagrants 
on these premises, it is the property owners/tenants responsibility  to deal 
with it.  By the way, we at Abbraccio have to deal with this type  of issue 
freqently; sometimes it means calling the  police.   
 
The main argument AGAINST the liquor store, in my opinion, is their past  
failure to take any responsibility for outside of their premises.  If  someone 
really wanted to fight the proposal at Zoning, I recommend taking a  videotape 
of a few hours of the front of the current store at 41st  and Market.  The 
front of store itself looks like an uninviting hellhole;  it seems almost 
barricaded, as if it belongs  in Baghdad.  And then of course there are  the 
panhandlers normally found all over in front. 
Meanwhile, if the liquor store folk wanted to make a case FOR the  move to 
Walnut Street, then I think the best case would be a written ironclad  
commitment to maintaining the entire premises, inside and out, in a  
responsible 
manner.  A senior LCB should be held accountable for any  problems.  (In other 
words, not like at the current store.)
 
Perhaps you might note that I am not a big fan of the State Store  system.  
It is my opinion that the worse liquor store in New Jersey is  still better 
than the best liquor store in Pennsylvania.
 
Roger
 




 
Melani Lamond, Associate Broker
Urban  Bye,  Realtor
3529 Lancaster Ave.
Philadelphia, PA 19104
cell phone  215-356-7266
office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113
office fax  215-222-1101
2005 recipient of the Greater  Philadelphia Association of Realtors awards:
- Diamond award for over $8  million in sales, and
ALL SIX of the West Philadelphia awards:
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- Top Seller
- Top Overall Combined Volume
- Top Listing Units  by Area
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- Top Overall Combined Units by  Area
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[UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?

2007-03-01 Thread Krfapt
 
 
In a message dated 3/1/2007 1:13:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

While  you're on that site, you can also check out Al Krigman's KRF 
Corporation's  ratings.  Also mostly As and Bs, but also some Cs, more than 
Apartments  
at Penn has.


Gee. Urban  Bye has no A's a bunch of B-minuses, mostly C's, and a few  D's. 
So Melani, when is your company going to start doing a decent job?
 
Enquiring minds want to know
Al Krigman

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Re: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?

2007-03-01 Thread MLamond
Al, my rental company, so to speak, is Melani Lamond  Brian  Ratigan, my 
husband.  We are too small to have been rated by OCL.
 
I am a sales agent and independent contractor at Urban  Bye, Realtor,  where 
my Associate Broker license hangs.  I am not involved with rentals  for Urban 
 Bye.
 
As you well know.
 
Melani
 
Melani Lamond, Associate Broker
Urban  Bye,  Realtor
3529 Lancaster Ave.
Philadelphia, PA 19104
cell phone  215-356-7266
office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113
office fax  215-222-1101
2005 recipient of the Greater  Philadelphia Association of Realtors awards:
- Diamond award for over $8  million in sales, and
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- Top Seller
- Top Overall Combined Volume
- Top Listing Units  by Area
- Top Selling Units by Area
- Top Overall Combined Units by  Area
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Re: [UC] More about the liquor store/mosque

2007-03-01 Thread daveaxler
 Then I must have been thinking of the Linton's over at 33rd  Chestnut...my 
bad!

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  No, it was a Linton's, complete with conveyor belt... 
 
 hmm... must've been a horn and hardart's at some point. you can still see 
traces of the H, the O, the R, the N, etc. along the black stonework above the 
entranceway. 
 
 
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Re: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?

2007-03-01 Thread Krfapt
 
In a message dated 3/1/2007 1:26:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am a  sales agent and independent contractor at Urban  Bye, Realtor, where 
my  Associate Broker license hangs.  I am not involved with rentals for Urban 
  Bye.


C'mon Melani. This is weak, even for you. You've forgotten the lesson of  
John 8:7, He who is without sin among you, let him throw the first stone.  
There are cruder ways to put it, of course. But I'll resist the very strong  
temptation.
 
Left of Pontius Pilate,
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RE: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?

2007-03-01 Thread Mike V.
It's funny, Al, but I tend to believe the person that reliably provides
pertinent, factual and verifiable information to the wild-eyed
conspiracy theorist prone to taking cheap shots at good people.
 
- Mike V.

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To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?



In a message dated 3/1/2007 1:26:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am a sales agent and independent contractor at Urban  Bye, Realtor,
where my Associate Broker license hangs.  I am not involved with rentals
for Urban  Bye.

C'mon Melani. This is weak, even for you. You've forgotten the lesson of
John 8:7, He who is without sin among you, let him throw the first
stone. There are cruder ways to put it, of course. But I'll resist the
very strong temptation.
 
Left of Pontius Pilate,
Al Krigman
 
 




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RE: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?

2007-03-01 Thread Philip Forrest
I agree with Mike V.  Countering an argument with facts lends itself to
greater credibility than quoting scripture.

PhilFo

 

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On Behalf Of Mike V.
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:47 PM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
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It's funny, Al, but I tend to believe the person that reliably provides
pertinent, factual and verifiable information to the wild-eyed conspiracy
theorist prone to taking cheap shots at good people.

 

- Mike V.

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On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?

In a message dated 3/1/2007 1:26:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am a sales agent and independent contractor at Urban  Bye, Realtor, where
my Associate Broker license hangs.  I am not involved with rentals for Urban
 Bye.

C'mon Melani. This is weak, even for you. You've forgotten the lesson of
John 8:7, He who is without sin among you, let him throw the first stone.
There are cruder ways to put it, of course. But I'll resist the very strong
temptation.

 

Left of Pontius Pilate,

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Re: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?

2007-03-01 Thread Krfapt
 
In a message dated 3/1/2007 1:51:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It's funny, Al, but I tend to believe the person that  reliably provides 
pertinent, factual and verifiable information to the  wild-eyed conspiracy 
theorist prone to taking cheap shots at good  people.


I guess I forgot to give you Melani's employer's scorecard. It's  below:
 
 

Always at  your service and ready for a dialog ® brand resident and housing  
provider,
Al Krigman
--

 
REPORT  CARD 
Urban  Bye
Number of Surveys that were processed:  11 Score GradeLandlord Tenant 
 Relationship (Overall) 2.28 C
My landlord is concerned  with my satisfaction 1.64 D  My landlord uses a 
lease  written in language I can understand 2.91 C  My landlord can be  
contacted 
easily when necessary 2 C  My landlord has provided  me with emergency 
contact information 2.82 C  Communication with my  landlord is prompt, friendly 
and 
professional 1.55 D  My landlord kept promises  made in the lease 2 C  My 
landlord maintains the  property in good condition 2 C  Repair work is done  
professionally 2.18 C  Management handles my  finanical matters promptly and 
accurately 2.64 C  Repair  Responsiveness
Minor repairs? (Cracks in  wall or ceiling) 1.9 D  Major repairs? (Insect  
problems, broken doors) 2.89 B-  Emergencies? (Plumbing,  heating) 3.75 B+  
Apartment Quality  (Overall) 3.03 B-  I feel safe in my living  space 3.3 B  
Doors and windows are  intact and secure 3.2 B-  Walls and ceilings are in  
good shape 2.5 C  Carpet / flooring is in  good condition 3 B-  Appliances  
work 
3.6 B  Electrical wiring is  adequate 3.2 B-  Hot water is  sufficient 3.8 B+  
Heat is  sufficient 3.2 B-  Plumbing is free from  leaks 3 B-  Paint or 
wallpaper is in  good condition 2.9 C  Space is free of rodents,  roaches, or 
other 
insects 2.6 C  Proper containers  provided for trash disposal with clear 
instructions 2.9 C  The space was clean prior  to move-in 2.7 C  There are 
smoke 
detectors  which, when tested, work 3.5 B  Outdoor lighting in the  
front/rear/side areas is adequate 2.7 C  Exterior lights come on  automatically 
when it 
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Re: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?

2007-03-01 Thread Krfapt
 
In a message dated 3/1/2007 1:58:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I guess  I forgot to give you Melani's employer's scorecard. It's  below:


Of course, in all fairness both to Urban  Bye's poor scores and my own  good 
ones, these satisfaction surveys are garbage. Urban  Bye's scores  were 
based on 11 questionnaires and mine on only four.
 
But the point was that Melani was trying to use them to prove something,  and 
-- invalid as he logic was -- it turned around and bit her on the  backside.
 
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RE: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?

2007-03-01 Thread Mike V.
I'm confused.  She says that she has nothing to do with Urban  Bye
rentals, but does operate as a sales agent -- the rentals with which
she's involved are under her own company name, and don't carry a
negative scorecard.  Apples to apples, Al.
 
Are you calling Melani a liar, deliberately trying to obfuscate the
issue, or just plain ignorant?
 
- Mike V.

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Subject: Re: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?



In a message dated 3/1/2007 1:58:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I guess I forgot to give you Melani's employer's scorecard. It's below:

Of course, in all fairness both to Urban  Bye's poor scores and my own
good ones, these satisfaction surveys are garbage. Urban  Bye's
scores were based on 11 questionnaires and mine on only four.
 
But the point was that Melani was trying to use them to prove something,
and -- invalid as he logic was -- it turned around and bit her on the
backside.
 
Al Krigman




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[UC] Why does Al REALLY oppose the new liquor store?

2007-03-01 Thread MLamond
 
 
In a message dated 3/1/2007 2:12:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I'm confused.  She says that she  has nothing to do with Urban  Bye rentals, 
but does operate as a sales  agent -- the rentals with which she's involved 
are under her own company name,  and don't carry a negative scorecard.  Apples 
to apples,  Al.
 
Are you calling Melani a liar,  deliberately trying to obfuscate the issue, 
or just plain  ignorant?
 
- Mike  V.



I think he's trying to direct attention away from the part of  my earlier 
email which said:
By the way, it has been pointed out to me that  Al's opposition to the new 
liquor store location just MIGHT have something to do  with who the landlord 
is, since Danny DeRitis is a big supporter of the  UCD's NID project.
 
 
 
Melani Lamond, Associate Broker
Urban  Bye,  Realtor
3529 Lancaster Ave.
Philadelphia, PA 19104
cell phone  215-356-7266
office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113
office fax  215-222-1101
2005 recipient of the Greater  Philadelphia Association of Realtors awards:
- Diamond award for over $8  million in sales, and
ALL SIX of the West Philadelphia awards:
- Top  Lister
- Top Seller
- Top Overall Combined Volume
- Top Listing Units  by Area
- Top Selling Units by Area
- Top Overall Combined Units by  Area
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[UC] It's the Milton Street Show!

2007-03-01 Thread Kyle Cassidy
Those of you who didn't make it down to the Milton Street rally to
represent West Philly missed a really good time. Seriously, it was the
most entertaining political rally I've been to in quite some time.

Mr. Street missed the 5,000 mark he'd been hoping for by ... Er, a lot.
I estimate there were probably 200 people there, maybe 40 of them were
reporters. Mr. Street is, I believe, a much more charistmatic speaker
than his brother, the Mayor, but he is also prone to flights of ...
Well, complete weirdness. About 10 minutes into his speech, he brought a
coffin out on stage, saying that he hope to end violence in the city.
And then he started preaching, really preaching, like quoting the bible
and waving his arms while the crowd shouted AMEN! and then, overcome
by the spirit -- he burst into song. I kid you not. And this is probably
what you'll see on the news tonight. He actually has a pretty good
singing voice. This went on for a while. Periodically he'd lean on the
coffin, close his eyes and start praying, then he'd run up front and
wave his arms around. He dealt with some hecklers, said that Bob Brady's
house in New Jersey was a lot bigger than his house in New Jersey, then
he went off and sang a duet with some guy from WIP. And that was that.
Everybody seemed to get a good chuckle out of it and you could tell the
reporters were glad to be doing this rather than covering some high
school kid who's making 10,000 paper cranes for peace or something. I
heard one of them say People should have to PAY to see this, I feel
like I just went to the theater!

The splendid photos are here:

http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/2007/2007%2D03%2D01%2Dms/images
.html


P.S. -- as you might have expected, he said that despite not having
5,000 supporters at the rally, he was going to keep on running. 



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Re: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?

2007-03-01 Thread Krfapt
 
In a message dated 3/1/2007 2:11:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Are you calling Melani a liar, deliberately trying to  obfuscate the issue, 
or just plain ignorant?


Obfuscate the issue. She signs all of her posts as
Melani Lamond, Associate  Broker
Urban  Bye, Realtor
3529 Lancaster  Ave.
Philadelphia, PA 19104
cell phone 215-356-7266
office phone  215-222-4800, ext. 113
office fax 215-222-1101

So she clearly associates herself with this company. Until, of  course, she 
tries to smear me -- and it turns out that the measure she's using  makes the 
outfit with which she identifies herself look bad -- then she denies  the 
association with some weasel-wording about it being a different  department.
 
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RE: [UC] Why does Al REALLY oppose the new liquor store?

2007-03-01 Thread KAREN ALLEN

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] Why does Al REALLY oppose the new liquor store?
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:17:14 EST

I think he's trying to direct attention away from the part of  my earlier
email which said:
By the way, it has been pointed out to me that  Al's opposition to the new
liquor store location just MIGHT have something to do  with who the 
landlord

is, since Danny DeRitis is a big supporter of the  UCD's NID project.

Melani Lamond



This brings up the subject that the draft of the NID Plan is now on the UCD 
website.


http://www.ucityphila.org/bid/index.html

I expressed my opinion yesterday that I was disappointed that no bylaws for 
the NID were posted, and I also noticed that the plan seemed very sparce in 
specifics.


What about that?
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RE: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?

2007-03-01 Thread Philip Forrest
Al,

You're obviously searching, and reaching pretty far, for a reason to pick on
Melani.  Her association with Urban  Bye is the same as my association with
the US Marines.  I was a combat photographer in a Naval Engineering
Battalion which came under the umbrella of 1st Marine Expeditionary Force
out in Iraq.  I never murdered or raped anyone, nor did I even shoot my
rifle in self-defense.  Does my association with the Marine force that the
murdering platoon members belonged to make me a murderer?  I took photos of
engineering projects that the 1st MEF tasked us with.  I received my
paycheck from the US gov't.  Does my affiliation through doing my job make
me a party to murders and rape committed by a very few Marines?

I was just doing my job. Melani is just doing her job.  We all need
employers to pay us.  

Please for our sanity, pick some topic that is relevant, not just one meant
to bring unwarranted negative attention to someone for something they have
little association with.

PhilFo

 

 

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In a message dated 3/1/2007 2:11:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Are you calling Melani a liar, deliberately trying to obfuscate the issue,
or just plain ignorant?

Obfuscate the issue. She signs all of her posts as

Melani Lamond, Associate Broker
Urban  Bye, Realtor
3529 Lancaster Ave.
Philadelphia, PA 19104
cell phone 215-356-7266
office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113
office fax 215-222-1101

So she clearly associates herself with this company. Until, of course, she
tries to smear me -- and it turns out that the measure she's using makes the
outfit with which she identifies herself look bad -- then she denies the
association with some weasel-wording about it being a different department.

 

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[UC] Re: Why does Al REALLY oppose the new liquor store?

2007-03-01 Thread Krfapt
 
In a message dated 3/1/2007 2:17:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MLamond  
writes:

By the  way, it has been pointed out to me that Al's opposition to the new 
liquor  store location just MIGHT have something to do with who the landlord 
is,  since Danny DeRitis is a big supporter of the UCD's NID  project.


I happen to like and get along well with Dan DeRitis (as I do with many  
people who have differing views than I do on a lot of topics). I've gotten 
along  
well with Dan, in fact, for a long time. Melani apparently doesn't remember 
that  I opposed the Brewpub on the same grounds. Namely:
1) That zoning is supposed to provide people with reasonable expectations  of 
how the area around them will evolve. And changes in zoning take that away -- 
 so they should be pursued with extreme care.
2) That, as a community, we give what the current discussion about  people 
imposing their will on others makes seem like a lot of lip service  to 
diversity. Celebrating diversity doesn't mean just saying hi to  people 
dressed in 
funny clothes or eating in restaurants that serve food our  parents wouldn't 
recognize as such. It means, among other things, being  sensitive to their 
cultural mores.
 
I've been very consistent about this -- as a look back on the archives of  
this forum will clearly show. And, in case nobody's noticed, it's one of my  
underlying reasons for opposing the NID -- which I believe is part of a  
gentrification effort by certain non-academic but self-anointed elements at 
Penn  -- 
and will gradually cause the displacement of the people who add diversity to  
this community. Those who think I oppose the NID purely for the sake of my own  
wallet have but to look back through the archives and find that I've opposed  
much of what Penn and UCD have done in and (I believe) to the  community long 
before they were talking about assessing anybody... for  these very reasons.
 
And, I have some intuition about why people like Melani ascribe covert  
intentions to what I say and do. But I don't throw them in her face in front of 
 
everybody, as she seems to relish doing to me.
 
Alan  Krigman
KRF Management
211 S 45th St, Phila PA 19104
215-349-6500, fax  215-349-6500
on-line bulletin board: _www.iconworldwide.com/krf/news_ 
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[UC] Children, please!

2007-03-01 Thread Kyle Cassidy
 
If Al were a lousy landlord, he wouldn't be in business, and the same is
true for Urban and Bye, I'm sure. No doubt both have long lists of
satisfied tennants and I'm sure we all know each other well enough that
a dinky little survey isn't going to spread new light on things. 

And, according to the notice Al sent out, Barry Grossberg is hopeful
that the Mosque and the property owner can work out their differences,
so really, I think we're all out of things to argue about.

Maybe we can talk about something nice?

Like having a list picnic in Clark Park. Anybody interested?

Kc


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RE: [UC] Children, please!

2007-03-01 Thread Philip Forrest
I'll come to the picnic.  But I want to be sitting in a tree...

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Subject: [UC] Children, please!

 
If Al were a lousy landlord, he wouldn't be in business, and the same is
true for Urban and Bye, I'm sure. No doubt both have long lists of
satisfied tennants and I'm sure we all know each other well enough that
a dinky little survey isn't going to spread new light on things. 

And, according to the notice Al sent out, Barry Grossberg is hopeful
that the Mosque and the property owner can work out their differences,
so really, I think we're all out of things to argue about.

Maybe we can talk about something nice?

Like having a list picnic in Clark Park. Anybody interested?

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Re: [UC] It's the Milton Street Show!

2007-03-01 Thread Frank

He looks more like Uncle Fester every day.

Frank

On Mar 1, 2007, at 02:23 PM, Kyle Cassidy wrote:


Those of you who didn't make it down to the Milton Street rally to
represent West Philly missed a really good time. Seriously, it was the
most entertaining political rally I've been to in quite some time.

Mr. Street missed the 5,000 mark he'd been hoping for by ... Er, a  
lot.

I estimate there were probably 200 people there, maybe 40 of them were
reporters. Mr. Street is, I believe, a much more charistmatic speaker
than his brother, the Mayor, but he is also prone to flights of ...
Well, complete weirdness. About 10 minutes into his speech, he  
brought a

coffin out on stage, saying that he hope to end violence in the city.
And then he started preaching, really preaching, like quoting the  
bible

and waving his arms while the crowd shouted AMEN! and then, overcome
by the spirit -- he burst into song. I kid you not. And this is  
probably

what you'll see on the news tonight. He actually has a pretty good
singing voice. This went on for a while. Periodically he'd lean on the
coffin, close his eyes and start praying, then he'd run up front and
wave his arms around. He dealt with some hecklers, said that Bob  
Brady's
house in New Jersey was a lot bigger than his house in New Jersey,  
then

he went off and sang a duet with some guy from WIP. And that was that.
Everybody seemed to get a good chuckle out of it and you could tell  
the

reporters were glad to be doing this rather than covering some high
school kid who's making 10,000 paper cranes for peace or something. I
heard one of them say People should have to PAY to see this, I feel
like I just went to the theater!

The splendid photos are here:

http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/2007/2007%2D03%2D01%2Dms/ 
images

.html


P.S. -- as you might have expected, he said that despite not having
5,000 supporters at the rally, he was going to keep on running.



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Re: [UC] It's the Milton Street Show!

2007-03-01 Thread Margie Politzer
 P.S. -- as you might have expected, he said that despite not having
 5,000 supporters at the rally, he was going to keep on running.

Then I guess we can always count on him to keep his word...

Thanks for the report and photos.

Margie


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Re: [UC] Why does Al REALLY oppose the new liquor store?

2007-03-01 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

Al Krigman wrote:
Gee. Urban  Bye has no A's a bunch of B-minuses, mostly C's, and a few 
D's. So Melani, when is your company going to start doing a decent job?



Mike VanHelder wrote:

/I'm confused.  She says that she has nothing to do with Urban  Bye
rentals, but does operate as a sales agent -- the rentals with which
she's involved are under her own company name, and don't carry a
negative scorecard.  Apples to apples, Al.
/Are you calling Melani a liar, deliberately trying to obfuscate the
issue, or just plain ignorant?/


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*I think he's trying to direct attention away from the part of my 
earlier email which said:*
*By the way, it has been pointed out to me that Al's opposition to the 
new liquor store location just MIGHT have something to do with who the 
landlord is, since Danny DeRitis is a big supporter of the UCD's NID 
project.*




hahaha I think you're ALL trying to distract us from the 
REAL story, slipped in all freudian like, right there in the dp:


  the campus liquor store




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Re: [UC] Krigman's UC Ops Center - (was When is your company going to shape up)

2007-03-01 Thread Craigsolve
 
In a message dated 3/1/2007 1:22:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

So Melani, when is your company going to start doing a decent job?
 
Enquiring minds want to know



A look at Special K's secret UC Operations Center. 
_http://youtube.com/watch?v=hAL7w2ybTfQ_ 
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=hAL7w2ybTfQ)   
 
An exercise in power even beyond that the DP's anonymous sources have  
whispered about or Rosso has shouted about.
 
The Local Force is Emperor LandLord AL!
 
Ciao,
 
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Re: [UC] Re: Why does Al REALLY oppose the new liquor store?

2007-03-01 Thread MLamond

In a message dated 3/1/07 3:07:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I happen to like and get along well with Dan DeRitis (as I do with many 
 people who have differing views than I do on a lot of topics). I've gotten 
 along 
 well with Dan, in fact, for a long time.
 
So, then, Al, do you agree with me that Dan DeRitis' high landlord rankings 
by the Penn Consumer Board are probably well deserved, and that he is a capable 
landlord who would keep after the PA Liquor Control Board to run a clean, 
customer-friendly store and discourage panhandling, if the Wine  Spirits Shop 
were to move to 4237 Walnut St.?

Melani Lamond




Melani Lamond, Associate Broker
Urban  Bye, Realtor
3529 Lancaster Ave.
Philadelphia, PA 19104
cell phone 215-356-7266
office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113
office fax 215-222-1101
2005 recipient of the Greater Philadelphia Association of Realtors awards:
- Diamond award for over $8 million in sales, and
ALL SIX of the West Philadelphia awards:
- Top Lister
- Top Seller
- Top Overall Combined Volume
- Top Listing Units by Area
- Top Selling Units by Area
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[UC] Get it? Or, don't you want to get it?

2007-03-01 Thread Krfapt
 
 
In a message dated 3/1/2007 4:50:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MLamond  
writes:

So,  then, Al, do you agree with me that Dan DeRitis' high landlord rankings 
by the  Penn Consumer Board are probably well deserved, and that he is a 
capable  landlord who would keep after the PA Liquor Control Board to run a 
clean,  
customer-friendly store and discourage panhandling, if the Wine  Spirits  
Shop were to move to 4237 Walnut St.?

 
 
A nonsequitur if I've ever read one. Now, you're not only ascribing motives  
to my madness but are misdirecting everything I've said about the whole 
affair.  I guess you don't want to talk about the meaning of cultural diversity 
and  
how this neighborhood should practice what it preaches.
 
My entire point, here and in the case of the BrewPub, has to do with:
a) sensitivity to the cultural mores of others
b) the reasonable expectations for those monetarily, emotionally, or  
otherwise invested in an area, which established by the use of zoning and  the 
need 
to be very conservative about changes, variances, and so forth.
 
Get it? Or, don't you want to get it?
 
Al Krigman

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Re: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?

2007-03-01 Thread SKnight
I used to feel anger at Al's posts, now I just feel pity and embarrassment for 
him.  Maybe he thinks he's cute or funny.
Sande Knight
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: UnivCity@list.purple.commailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?


  In a message dated 3/1/2007 1:26:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am a sales agent and independent contractor at Urban  Bye, Realtor, 
where my Associate Broker license hangs.  I am not involved with rentals for 
Urban  Bye.
  C'mon Melani. This is weak, even for you. You've forgotten the lesson of John 
8:7, He who is without sin among you, let him throw the first stone. There 
are cruder ways to put it, of course. But I'll resist the very strong 
temptation.

  Left of Pontius Pilate,
  Al Krigman







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Re: [UC] More about the liquor store/mosque

2007-03-01 Thread SKnight
That location was a Horn  Hardart, not a Linton's.  In addition to the 
Linton's at 33rd  Chestnut, there was also one at 52nd  Baltimore between 
Baltimore and Whitby on 52nd with the conveyor belt.  
Sande Knight
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
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  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [UC] More about the liquor store/mosque


  Then I must have been thinking of the Linton's over at 33rd  Chestnut...my 
bad!


   
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  To: univcity@list.purple.commailto:univcity@list.purple.com
  Sent: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [UC] More about the liquor store/mosque


  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   No, it was a Linton's, complete with conveyor belt... 
   
  hmm... must've been a horn and hardart's at some point. you can still see 
traces of the H, the O, the R, the N, etc. along the black stonework above the 
entranceway. 
   
   
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Re: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?

2007-03-01 Thread SKnight
This post below proves that some people have to work for themselves; they 
couldn't survive among co-workers.
Sande Knight
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: UnivCity@list.purple.commailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [UC] When is your company going to shape up, Melani?


  In a message dated 3/1/2007 2:11:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Are you calling Melani a liar, deliberately trying to obfuscate the issue, 
or just plain ignorant?
  Obfuscate the issue. She signs all of her posts as
  Melani Lamond, Associate Broker
  Urban  Bye, Realtor
  3529 Lancaster Ave.
  Philadelphia, PA 19104
  cell phone 215-356-7266
  office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113
  office fax 215-222-1101

  So she clearly associates herself with this company. Until, of course, she 
tries to smear me -- and it turns out that the measure she's using makes the 
outfit with which she identifies herself look bad -- then she denies the 
association with some weasel-wording about it being a different department.

  Al Krigman





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Re: [UC] Get it? Or, don't you want to get it?

2007-03-01 Thread MLamond

6.   In a message dated 3/1/07 5:01:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A nonsequitur if I've ever read one.
 
 I don't think so Al.   I think you're trying to avoid the question.   I'm not 
asking you for your opinion about the liquor store's possible new location.   
We all know that, by now.   I'm asking you for your opinion of the potential 
landlord's capabilities.   Can you help answer Kathleen  Roger's concerns 
about maintenance at the new site, if the liquor store were to move and become 
a 
tenant of Dan DeRitis?   You said earlier that you like him.   Do you think he 
is a good landlord, committed to University City, and capable of ensuring 
that the PA Liquor Control Board would run a good store?   Or not?

1.   In a message dated 3/1/07 9:38:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If the State Store system is trying to create a more upscale store, that 
should include a commitment to deal aggressively with illegal behavior.

2.   In a message dated 3/1/07 12:40:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The main argument AGAINST the liquor store, in my opinion, is their past 
failure to take any responsibility for outside of their premises...if the 
liquor 
store folk wanted to make a case FOR the move to Walnut Street, then I think 
the best case would be a written ironclad commitment to maintaining the entire 
premises, inside and out, in a responsible manner.  A senior LCB should be held 
accountable for any problems.  (In other words, not like at the current 
store.)

3.   In a message dated 3/1/07 1:13:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 The landlord at the new location would be Daniel DeRitis...He is a capable 
 and hands-on person who has long been involved in University City clean  
 safe initiatives, and I believe he will be able to hold the PLCB to their 
 promises to do a good job at the new locationBy the way, it has been 
 pointed 
 out to me that Al's opposition to the new liquor store location just MIGHT 
 have 
 something to do with who the landlord is, since Danny DeRitis is a big 
 supporter of the UCD's NID project.
 
4.   In a message dated 3/1/07 3:07:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I happen to like and get along well with Dan DeRitis (as I do with many 
people who have differing views than I do on a lot of topics). I've gotten 
along 
well with Dan, in fact, for a long time.

5.   In a message dated 3/1/2007 4:50:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MLamond 
writes:
  So, then, Al, do you agree with me that Dan DeRitis' high landlord 
 rankings by the Penn Consumer Board are probably well deserved, and that he 
 is a 
 capable landlord who would keep after the PA Liquor Control Board to run a 
 clean, customer-friendly store and discourage panhandling, if the Wine  
 Spirits 
 Shop were to move to 4237 Walnut St.?
 




Melani Lamond, Associate Broker
Urban  Bye, Realtor
3529 Lancaster Ave.
Philadelphia, PA 19104
cell phone 215-356-7266
office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113
office fax 215-222-1101
2005 recipient of the Greater Philadelphia Association of Realtors awards:
- Diamond award for over $8 million in sales, and
ALL SIX of the West Philadelphia awards:
- Top Lister
- Top Seller
- Top Overall Combined Volume
- Top Listing Units by Area
- Top Selling Units by Area
- Top Overall Combined Units by Area



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Re: [UC] Children, please!

2007-03-01 Thread SKnight
K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
sk
  - Original Message - 
  From: Philip Forrestmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: 'Kyle Cassidy'mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
UnivCity@list.purple.commailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:14 PM
  Subject: RE: [UC] Children, please!


  I'll come to the picnic.  But I want to be sitting in a tree...

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Kyle Cassidy
  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:08 PM
  To: UnivCity@list.purple.commailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com
  Subject: [UC] Children, please!

   
  If Al were a lousy landlord, he wouldn't be in business, and the same is
  true for Urban and Bye, I'm sure. No doubt both have long lists of
  satisfied tennants and I'm sure we all know each other well enough that
  a dinky little survey isn't going to spread new light on things. 

  And, according to the notice Al sent out, Barry Grossberg is hopeful
  that the Mosque and the property owner can work out their differences,
  so really, I think we're all out of things to argue about.

  Maybe we can talk about something nice?

  Like having a list picnic in Clark Park. Anybody interested?

  Kc

  
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RE: [UC] It's the Milton Street Show!

2007-03-01 Thread Bill Sanderson
He's definitely providing the best entertainment value--thanks!

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On Behalf Of Kyle Cassidy
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:24 PM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] It's the Milton Street Show!

Those of you who didn't make it down to the Milton Street rally to
represent West Philly missed a really good time. Seriously, it was the
most entertaining political rally I've been to in quite some time.


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[UC] 17th Annual Beer Tasting with Michael Jackson : Extreme Beer Tasting

2007-03-01 Thread Ross Bender

FOR ALL YOU BREWPUB BOOZEHOUNDS WHO JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH -- PENN COMES
THROUGH AGAIN

17th Annual Beer Tasting with Michael Jackson : Extreme Beer Tasting

Saturday, March 10, 2007
1:00 pm, 3:30pm (sold out), 6:00pm

Tickets are still remaining for the 1st and 3rd session of the annual
tasting event, held at the Penn Museum.

In recent years brewers have focused on various tastes, components,
and alcohol levels and created extreme beers. What makes a beer
extreme? Join world renowned beer expert Michael Jackson as he
explores this theme.

The tutored tasting will include the following Extreme Beers:
Iron Hill Brewery -Cassis
Dogfish Head Craft Brewery - Red and White
Avery Brewing Company and Russian River Brewing Company -
Collaboration, not Litigation
Allagash Brewing Company - Allagash White
Pizza Port Solano Beach - Hop 15 Double IPA
Nodding Head Brewery - George's Fault
Victory Brewing Company, Downingtown , PA - Old Horizontal
Brasserie Dieu du Ciel - Peche Mortal

Following the tutored tasting, enjoy dozens of additional beers from
around the world accompanied by food by Museum Catering Company.
Guests must be at least 21 years old to attend. Advance reservations
required. $45 non-members; $40 members. Tickets on sale now at the
Annenberg Center Box Office online:
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Re: [UC] It's the Milton Street Show!

2007-03-01 Thread Wilma de Soto
I was down at 440 N. Broad St.(School District Headquarters) giving ALL of
my credentials to prove I can teach at the school that I have been for 21
years; i.e. am I Highly Qualified under the No Child Left Behind
legislation. 

Undoubtedly there will be even MORE Teacher Training and Professional
Development because of this and Why?

Through all this School Reform, there has been a missing link.  Last week a
teacher at Germantown High School had his neck broken for taking an iPod
away from a student which he would have returned at the end of class.

People who came to Milton's rally might have been parents to those same
kids.

Not funny to me.  Not at ALL.


On 3/1/07 2:23 PM, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Re: [UC] 17th Annual Beer Tasting with Michael Jackson : Extreme Beer Tasting

2007-03-01 Thread Vincent/Roger
Ross, are you paid to do these promotions?
Am I not paying you enough to promote Abbraccio?  
In(en?)quiring minds want to know.  Please reply off-list.
Roger
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ross Bender 
  To: UnivCity listserv 
  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:25 PM
  Subject: [UC] 17th Annual Beer Tasting with Michael Jackson : Extreme Beer 
Tasting


  FOR ALL YOU BREWPUB BOOZEHOUNDS WHO JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH -- PENN COMES 
THROUGH AGAIN

  17th Annual Beer Tasting with Michael Jackson : Extreme Beer Tasting

  Saturday, March 10, 2007
  1:00 pm, 3:30pm (sold out), 6:00pm

  Tickets are still remaining for the 1st and 3rd session of the annual 
  tasting event, held at the Penn Museum.

  In recent years brewers have focused on various tastes, components, 
  and alcohol levels and created extreme beers. What makes a beer 
  extreme? Join world renowned beer expert Michael Jackson as he 
  explores this theme.

  The tutored tasting will include the following Extreme Beers:
  Iron Hill Brewery -Cassis
  Dogfish Head Craft Brewery - Red and White
  Avery Brewing Company and Russian River Brewing Company - 
  Collaboration, not Litigation
  Allagash Brewing Company - Allagash White
  Pizza Port Solano Beach - Hop 15 Double IPA
  Nodding Head Brewery - George's Fault
  Victory Brewing Company, Downingtown , PA - Old Horizontal
  Brasserie Dieu du Ciel - Peche Mortal

  Following the tutored tasting, enjoy dozens of additional beers from 
  around the world accompanied by food by Museum Catering Company. 
  Guests must be at least 21 years old to attend. Advance reservations 
  required. $45 non-members; $40 members. Tickets on sale now at the 
  Annenberg Center Box Office online: 
  http://www.pennpresents.org/events/event.php?event=tasting 
  or call 215/898-3900.

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Re: [UC] It's the Milton Street Show! - missing links

2007-03-01 Thread Craigsolve
In a message dated 3/1/2007 8:28:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I was  down at 440 N. Broad St.(School District Headquarters) giving ALL of
my  credentials to prove I can teach at the school that I have been for  21
years; i.e. am I Highly Qualified under the No Child Left  Behind
legislation.
Why are you complaining?
 
You get to visit HQ for other than a disciplinary or wage cut  meeting.
You're privileged to be professionally immersed in a bipartisan educational  
experiment.
And, unlike the two drunks who pushed the legislation through, you can  
clearly remember the last 21 years.
Alas, it is not likely your adoring family will give you an Aston  Martin for 
your 75th b'day, like Fish Kennedy.

Through  all this School Reform, there has been a missing link.  Last week  a
teacher at Germantown High School had his neck broken for taking an  iPod
away from a student which he would have returned at the end of  class.

People who came to Milton's rally might have been parents to  those same
kids.
Now two questions, Teach:
 
Do you really believe the aphorism the apple doesn't fall far from the  
tree'' has no applicability to the now privileged and still ethically  
challenged 
Street family?
 
And, the exhortations to attend Milton's rally by conservative Leader  Wolfe, 
and much more free Digital Documentarian Cassidy were the  postulation of the 
janus missing link?

Not  funny to me.  Not at ALL.
Inquiring minds want to know.
 
Regardless, have a more satisfying Friday.
 
Ciao,
 
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[UC] State Store Mosques More PC

2007-03-01 Thread Craigsolve
The ongoing bickering over the location of ETOH manufacturing and  
distribution facilities in UC up and coming locales should be an opportunity 
for  us to 
knowledgeably, critically, and judciously discuss both land use and  political 
correctness.
 
I thought the following two articles highlight how the upward spiraling  
application of PC threatens the bedrock of durability for our  extraordinary 
democracy -the balancing of rugged  individualist freedoms with the moderations 
enabling  the good of the greater society.
 
In the first article at what point do we allow minority religious  freedom to 
violate majority civil rights not to mention commerce?
 
 
In the second article the use of the word gay is socially  insensitive and 
actionable, while suggesting a child's Mormon family  practices polygamy is 
not.

 
Back to local self-determination, the last major change to local zoning by  
legislation that I remember, excluding banning vendors, was app 1980 and  south 
of Baltimore. Perhaps the changing nature of the community and the  expansion 
of the University should motivate those vested in the community to  revisit 
local land planning practices, not just let politicians rewrite the  zoning 
code. _http://www.planphilly.com/_ (http://www.planphilly.com/) 
 
Ciao,
 
Craig
 
1)October 16, 2006 – 12:02  AM
A two-tiered airport taxi system could lead to  'Chapter Two'
By Katherine Kersten,  Star Tribune 
Imagine you're returning from a trip with a bottle of  French wine to 
celebrate your wedding anniversary. At the airport, you drag your  bags out to 
the 
taxi stand in the cold breeze. As the cab pulls up, you hoist  your suitcases, 
eager to get home. 
But when the driver spots your wine, he shakes his head  emphatically. The 
Qur'an prohibits him from accepting passengers with alcohol,  he tells you. OK, 
so you'll take the next cab. But the next driver waves you  off, and the next. 
 
Scenes like this have played out hundreds of times at the  Minneapolis-St. 
Paul International Airport over the last few years. About  three-fourths of the 
900 taxi drivers at the airport are Somali, many of them  Muslim. In 
September, the Star Tribune reported that one flight attendant had  been 
refused by 
five drivers, because she had wine in her suitcase.  
Taxi drivers who refuse a customer, except for safety  reasons, must go to 
the end of the taxi line.  
They face a potential three-hour wait for the next fare.  Muslim drivers 
asked for an exemption, and officials of the Metropolitan  Airports Commission 
proposed color-coded lights on cab roofs to indicate whether  the driver would 
accept a passenger carrying alcohol.  
But last week, the MAC announced that it would not adopt  the new policy. 
Officials cited an overwhelmingly negative public reaction,  among other 
reasons. 
I've had over 500 e-mails and calls, and not one supported  the change, 
said Patrick Hogan, MAC spokesman.  
Why? Aren't Americans accustomed to granting modest legal  accommodations to 
groups or individuals on the basis of their religious beliefs?  
For many people, Hogan speculates, the issue may have been  bigger than 
drivers' reluctance to transport alcohol. I think people were  afraid there 
would 
be a Chapter Two.  
In some other cities, Chapter Two has already begun.  Muslim cab drivers 
elsewhere, for example, have refused to transport blind  customers with 
seeing-eye dogs, which they say their religion considers unclean.  On Oct. 6, 
the 
Daily Mail of London reported that two cab drivers had been fined  for 
rejecting 
blind customers. In Melbourne, Australia, at least 20 dog-aided  blind people 
have lodged discrimination complaints after similarly being  refused service, 
the Herald Sun reported.  
In Minneapolis, Muslim taxi drivers have repeatedly  refused to transport 
Paula Hare, who is transgendered, KMSP-TV, Channel 9,  reported this month.  
Daniel Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum, wrote  about the MAC's 
two-light proposal in the New York Sun on the day its rejection  was announced. 
While the proposal seemed like a common-sense compromise, he  wrote, on a 
societal level, it has massive and troubling implications.  Government sanction 
of a 
two-tiered cab system would amount to an  acknowledgement that Shari'a, or 
Islamic law, is relevant to a routine  commercial transaction in the Twin 
Cities. 
The MAC, a government agency, would  be officially approving a signal that 
differentiates those who follow Islamic  law from those who don't.  
And what if Muslim drivers demand the right not to  transport women wearing 
short skirts or tank tops, or unmarried couples? After  taxis, why not buses, 
trains and planes? Eventually, in some respects, our  society could be divided 
along religious lines.  
The negative reaction to the two-tiered solution does not  spring from 
hostility to Muslims. Muslims have thrived in  America. On average, they are 
well-integrated and have higher incomes  and