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[UC] Handyman References
Folks, I need a handyman to replace a glass pane in a door. If anybody knows a handyman (or handywoman) who can replace door glass, please let me know who they and how I can reach them. TIA, Mario Giorno westphi...@gmail.com
Re: [UC] Re: Fatimah Muhammad
Al, Would you rather reform the public education system of Philadelphia and make it respond to the needs of all children and have accountability standards for both teachers and students or destroy it with a slow, painful death of a thousand cuts - school by school, district by district? The private parochial (religious or non-religious) schools, charter schools and private in-home or other tutoring systems are not a panacea for educating all of the children in Philadelphia or the country as a whole. This is the kind of major initiative and coordination that requires a government-run educational system. If we follow the trend of school vouchers and the continued removal of funds from the public education system and follow it to its logical conclusion, we will have a community of children who, at some point, will only get a basic education if they can afford it. And if parents have to buy a K-12 education for their children through a retail transaction, who's going to enforce truancy or deal with children's behavioral problems when they do occur. If schools can just kick any kid off of the rolls because they misbehave or are disruptive, who in the end is going to help those kids become more disciplined? In this way it seems that the private for-pay school/school voucher movement doesn't want to help all kids, only the kids that the easiest to teach. Private school companies don't want the hard job of disciplining kids or dealing with their personal/family life issues which almost always find their way into the classroom. Towns and counties in the U.S. are closing several public schools because of austere budget cuts in order to deal with the deep recession we've been crawling out of. It seems they're cutting off their nose to spite their face. Conservative/Republican governors, state legislatures and municipal governments are trying to choke the public school system at a time when educating the children of America should be one of our highest long-term priorities. Mario On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:54 AM, krf...@aol.com wrote: ** In a message dated 4/24/2012 8:22:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, glen...@earthlink.net writes: I believe the plutocracy will first use the charter movement to destroy public education in Philadelphia. How would you answer the rational segment of the group that believes that the system of public education in Philadelphia (and elsewhere) has destroyed itself with tools ranging from socio-political correctness in their permissive attitudes toward children and parents alike, to excessive compensation and benefit packages for teachers who are not held accountable for their own performance? *- * Alan Krigman KRF Management, ICON/Information Concepts Inc 211 S 45th St, Philadelphia PA 19104-2918 215-349-6500, fax 215-349-6502 krf...@aol.com or al.krig...@krf.icodat.com -- Mario Giorno 228 S. 45th Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 westphi...@gmail.com
Re: [UC] Citypaper article: school vouchers the campaign against Jim Roebuck
or al.krig...@krf.icodat.com -- Mario Giorno 228 S. 45th Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 westphi...@gmail.com
[UC] Carpet Installer Recommendations
Folks, Does anyone know of any recommended carpet installers? I'm attempting to finish the renovation of my house and need a carpet guru to help put in some finishing touches. -- Mario Giorno PO Box 30932 Philadelphia, PA 19104 westphi...@gmail.com
Re: [UC] Rape at Gunpoint, 900 block of 48th St., 10 pm Tuesday night
Patty, Was there any official report sent out last night or this morning from the Penn police or the police at the precinct at 55th and Pine? Mario Giorno westphi...@gmail.com On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Patty Bulack pbul...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I am distressed to report that a rape occurred tonight on our block. A couple was walking on the east side of 48th St., when approached by 2 teens who took them into a nearby backyard at gunpoint. At that time, the woman was raped, and they were then robbed. The teens are described as African American, ages 19 and 15, one about 160 lbs, and the other about 5'2 and medium build. Not much more detail than that at this point, except that one of them was wearing a plaid shirt. Please be vigilant - obviously it didn't matter that this woman was not alone. Patty Bulack -- Mario Giorno PO Box 30932 Philadelphia, PA 19104 westphi...@gmail.com
[UC] Roof Repair
Michael, I and my wife have use Richard Marks for roof repair, porch repair, window repair and replacement, brick pointing and a few other things. His pricing is fair and his work is impeccable. His phone number is 267-252-3890 . Mario Giorno
Re: [UC] Possible Mail Thief in the hood
Naomi, I've had credit card statements taken from my exterior mailbox before on 48th between Chestnut and Market Sts. I've had a PO box for the last 3+ years and have continually had my important legal/financial mail sent there as well as other mailings and parcels. You just can't trust outdoor mailboxes anymore. It's a damn shame. Mario On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Naomi Fiordimondo naomif...@verizon.netwrote: So I’ve confirmed that there are at least two homes near 50th Baltimore that have had mail going missing over the last few weeks. Both homes have exterior (unsecured) mailboxes. One neighbor has been finding both her own and other people’s mail opened in her box days after it should have arrived. (Personal cards appearing in the wrong box with no envelope, just the card. Credit card applications opened and addressed to folks a few blocks away. Important gov’t forms appearing in the mailbox with no name or envelope. Etc. Etc.) The other neighbor has had Netflix disks go MIA and confirmed seeing a woman take mail from a neighbor’s box on her block this morning. She also spoke with our USPS delivery person who said, in her travels, she saw mail from the 49XX block on the 50XX block. (Otherwise, USPS delivery has been consistently good for the last 6 months since this new mail person took our route.) If anyone else is having problems, please post where and what you are seeing so we can stay alert. (And if you have an exterior mailbox, now may be a good time to get a current credit report to make sure everything is on the up and up.) - Naomi 5000 Catharine St. -- Mario Giorno PO Box 30932 Philadelphia, PA 19104 westphi...@gmail.com
Re: [UC] Fwd: arrested for observing police
Al or l...@verizon.net, Could one or both of you elaborate on the verbs observe vs. interfere. Observing and interfering are two different activities. Does anyone else on the list have any more information about Alexine's arrest? Mario Giorno On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:20 AM, krf...@aol.com wrote: ** In a message dated 6/15/2011 10:56:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, l...@verizon.net writes: Alexine Fleck, an English Literature professor at PCC and volunteer at a women's drug treatment program in North Philly who lives on Larchwood posted an account today in her blog about being arrested for attempting to observe while police accosted a suspected drug user in front of her house. It concerns me that watching the police is being treated as a crime -- I'd like to think that they're helpful and approachable. I seem to recall reading here that UCD had a police liaison, is this the case? Anyway -- Alexine Fleck might have been right in some moral or theoretical sense. But she was asking for the trouble she got by interfering with the police officer. She should have backed off when he (or she) asked her to do so. And if she thought the cop acted improperly, she should have called the Precinct Captain and reported the incident. She wouldn't have to have known the badge number. The vehicles are all numbered and the cops know who was in which car and when. You read it here, first, on the ever-popular *Popu-List* Courtesy of Al Krigman -- Mario Giorno PO Box 30932 Philadelphia, PA 19104 westphi...@gmail.com
[UC] General Contractor Recommendations
Folks, I'm in the process of getting a 203k loan to rehab my house and I need to find a good general contractor to deal with the work that needs to be done and find good subcontractors. If you have any contractors you'd recommend, let me know. Mario Giorno 36 S. 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19139 westphi...@gmail.com (267) 625-4526
Re: [UC] Another Fire 48th and Walnut area
Folks, It's the apartment building across from the high school on Walnut Street. NBC just posted an aerial photo online. Mario :-( On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Joe Clarke philly.jo...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw it. It is north on 48th above Spruce. I could see that the police had 48th street going north blocked at that intersection. Joe C. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Susan Jacobson sus...@temple.edu wrote: Hi there, I can see another fire out my window, closer this time. It looks like 48th and maybe Walnut. sj -- Susan Jacobson, PhD Assistant Professor Department of Journalism Temple University You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. -- *Life is too important to be taken seriously. Oscar Wilde *
Re: [UC] Public report
Glenn, It isn't UCD's responsibility to cite trash violations; that is the responsibility of the municipal government. If you're so anxious to indict anyone for trash collection violations, why don't you call the Philadelphia Streets Department (215-686-5560) yourself. Send them your photos of the property and the offending trash. As far UCD's working relationship with the Streets Department is concerned, I think the fact that they deal with the public sidewalk trashcans in UC, they operate/organize sidewalk clean-ups with the community and offer other clean streets support that are a community service that the city government recognizes and appreciates as do some of us living in UC. I seem to remember a discussion of people in the hood on the listserv talking about UCD writing trash tickets for the Streets Dept. employees that they had no authority to write. I remember most folks on the listserv thinking that UCD should never have written trash tickets specifically because it was the city government's responsibility, not the responsibility of a non-government NID/BID or community support services entity. Mario On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: February 19, 2008, 4:30 PM, 41st and Pine St. Mr. Dexter Bryant and Chris Kingsely of UCD meet Glenn Moyer after 2 UCD employees are flagged down and call Mr. Bryant. Trash has been placed on the sidewalk in front of various Campus Apt buildings on Pine St between 40 th and 42nd Sts. Also on 41st St. I met Mr. Dexter Bryant and Mr. Chris Kingsely of the UCD at 4:25 PM. As of 3:30 PM, the regular trash violations of Campus Apts were photographed on Pine St and 41st St. On this holiday week, trash cannot be put out until Wed. after 7 PM. Several piles exceeded the limits on amount of trash. Mr. Dexter Bryant and Mr. Chris Kingsley refuse to call the city of Philadelphia Streets Department on the spot. Four separate UCD employees refuse to call city enforcement officers. They do not record any of the violation addresses. Mr. Kingsley and Mr. Bryant inform me that I need to contact the property manager. I inform Mr. Bryant and Mr. Kingsley that Deputy Commissioner Carlton Williams of the Phila. Dept. of Streets is on record describing a working relationship between the city and UCD. Mr. Dexter Bryant confirms that UCD compiles a list of addresses for the city enforcement officers and provides addresses. This is not done on the basis of an immediate violation. UCD provides a list of offenders by way of the phone at later dates. I asked repeatedly for Mr. Bryant and Mr. Kingsley to call enforcement officers. None of the Campus Apt. addresses were recorded by any of the UCD employees. As I walked away, Mr. Kingsley and Bryant left without any effort to record the various addresses. All UCD staff refused pictures. Glenn Moyer, 5:23 PM, 2/19/08
Re: [UC] Public report
Karen, You're taking Glenn's word for it. And you're making the same faulty assumption that Glenn is making, and that is that UCD is legally responsible for citing trash violations. They are not. Only employees of the Streets Dept. can cite trash violations. Did Glenn call the Streets Dept. himself? Did you, Glenn? If Glenn wants someone violating a trash collection ordinance to be cited for that violation, he needs to alert the Streets Dept. and have them send somebody over to 41st and Pine. Not having seen this area of sidewalk yesterday, or Glenn's photos, I can't even assume there was a violation at all. Mario On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:19 AM, KAREN ALLEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn wrote: Mr. Dexter Bryant confirms that UCD compiles a list of addresses for the city enforcement officers and provides addresses. This is not done on the basis of an immediate violation. UCD provides a list of offenders by way of the phone at later dates. I asked repeatedly for Mr. Bryant and Mr. Kingsley to call enforcement officers. None of the Campus Apt. addresses were recorded by any of the UCD employees. As I walked away, Mr. Kingsley and Bryant left without any effort to record the various addresses. All UCD staff refused pictures. If UCD compiles and forwards lists of addresses of trash offenders to the City, then UCD should have taken Glenn's information, and forwarded it on to the City. If UCD refused to do so when Glenn pointed out that the violations were on Campus Apartments properties, one would have to ask whether UCD is selectively forwarding or not forwarding these violations on the basis of favoritism. It should be noted that David Adelman, the owner of Campus Apartments, is on UCD's board of directors, was a leading member of the NID/BID steering committee, and is a partner in the 40th and Pine hotel project, for which UCD wrote a letter of support to the Philadelphia Historic Commission. -- Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:59:01 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Public report Glenn, It isn't UCD's responsibility to cite trash violations; that is the responsibility of the municipal government. If you're so anxious to indict anyone for trash collection violations, why don't you call the Philadelphia Streets Department (215-686-5560) yourself. Send them your photos of the property and the offending trash. As far UCD's working relationship with the Streets Department is concerned, I think the fact that they deal with the public sidewalk trashcans in UC, they operate/organize sidewalk clean-ups with the community and offer other clean streets support that are a community service that the city government recognizes and appreciates as do some of us living in UC. I seem to remember a discussion of people in the hood on the listserv talking about UCD writing trash tickets for the Streets Dept. employees that they had no authority to write. I remember most folks on the listserv thinking that UCD should never have written trash tickets specifically because it was the city government's responsibility, not the responsibility of a non-government NID/BID or community support services entity. Mario On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: February 19, 2008, 4:30 PM, 41st and Pine St. Mr. Dexter Bryant and Chris Kingsely of UCD meet Glenn Moyer after 2 UCD employees are flagged down and call Mr. Bryant. Trash has been placed on the sidewalk in front of various Campus Apt buildings on Pine St between 40 th and 42nd Sts. Also on 41st St. I met Mr. Dexter Bryant and Mr. Chris Kingsely of the UCD at 4:25 PM. As of 3:30 PM, the regular trash violations of Campus Apts were photographed on Pine St and 41st St. On this holiday week, trash cannot be put out until Wed. after 7 PM. Several piles exceeded the limits on amount of trash. Mr. Dexter Bryant and Mr. Chris Kingsley refuse to call the city of Philadelphia Streets Department on the spot. Four separate UCD employees refuse to call city enforcement officers. They do not record any of the violation addresses. Mr. Kingsley and Mr. Bryant inform me that I need to contact the property manager. I inform Mr. Bryant and Mr. Kingsley that Deputy Commissioner Carlton Williams of the Phila. Dept. of Streets is on record describing a working relationship between the city and UCD. Mr. Dexter Bryant confirms that UCD compiles a list of addresses for the city enforcement officers and provides addresses. This is not done on the basis of an immediate violation. UCD provides a list of offenders by way of the phone at later dates. I asked repeatedly for Mr. Bryant and Mr. Kingsley to call enforcement officers. None of the Campus Apt. addresses were recorded by any of the UCD employees. As I walked away, Mr. Kingsley and Bryant left without any effort to record the various addresses. All UCD staff
Re: [UC] Public report
Glenn and Karen, I called Dexter Bryant today today to ask if anything had been done after Glenn's report about the alleged trash violation. He said that if, and here's the important word, *enough* people sent in a complaint about a certain resident or citizen's possible trash violation, then they *might*phone in to the Streets Dept. themselves to have a Streets Dept. employee come around and check. Even then, they can't assure that someone from the Streets Dept. will actually come by. Evidently, the fastest and most appropriate way for Glenn or anyone for that matter to get a response to a potential trash violation is to call the Streets Dept. directly and not even bother getting UCD involved. Glenn's trying to make the argument that UCD violated a legal obligation, which they haven't. UCD's compiling of the addresses of possible trash collection violators is not a legally required action. If someone is derelict enough to commit a trash violation that bothers enough neighbors or community members, then UCD likes to help out by making sure that the Streets Dept. is sent word. They don't have to do it. While the argument that they're doing it selectively and not every time someone complains may be valid, it's also meaningless. UCD themselves can't deal with the trash violation and we have no right to force them to call the city government on our behalf every time one of us has a complaint. We're individually responsible for filing such a legal complaint. On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:22 PM, KAREN ALLEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not making a faulty assumption. Please re-read what I wrote. I never said UCD is legally responsible for citing trash violations (copying and pasting your exact phraseology). I wrote (copying and pasting again) [i]f UCD compiles and forwards lists of addresses of trash offenders to the City, then UCD should have taken Glenn's information, and forwarded it on to the City. Nowhere in that did I say that UCD should have cited anyone. However, if UCD has established a policy and a relationship with the City wherein it forwards information regarding trash violations, the violations that Glenn pointed out should have been collected and forwarded for the City to respond to. And if they did not do so in light of that policy, then why? -- Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:43:30 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: univcity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Public report Karen, You're taking Glenn's word for it. And you're making the same faulty assumption that Glenn is making, and that is that UCD is legally responsible for citing trash violations. They are not. Only employees of the Streets Dept. can cite trash violations. Did Glenn call the Streets Dept. himself? Did you, Glenn? If Glenn wants someone violating a trash collection ordinance to be cited for that violation, he needs to alert the Streets Dept. and have them send somebody over to 41st and Pine. Not having seen this area of sidewalk yesterday, or Glenn's photos, I can't even assume there was a violation at all. Mario On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:19 AM, KAREN ALLEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn wrote: Mr. Dexter Bryant confirms that UCD compiles a list of addresses for the city enforcement officers and provides addresses. This is not done on the basis of an immediate violation. UCD provides a list of offenders by way of the phone at later dates. I asked repeatedly for Mr. Bryant and Mr. Kingsley to call enforcement officers. None of the Campus Apt. addresses were recorded by any of the UCD employees. As I walked away, Mr. Kingsley and Bryant left without any effort to record the various addresses. All UCD staff refused pictures. If UCD compiles and forwards lists of addresses of trash offenders to the City, then UCD should have taken Glenn's information, and forwarded it on to the City. If UCD refused to do so when Glenn pointed out that the violations were on Campus Apartments properties, one would have to ask whether UCD is selectively forwarding or not forwarding these violations on the basis of favoritism. It should be noted that David Adelman, the owner of Campus Apartments, is on UCD's board of directors, was a leading member of the NID/BID steering committee, and is a partner in the 40th and Pine hotel project, for which UCD wrote a letter of support to the Philadelphia Historic Commission. -- Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:59:01 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Public report Glenn, It isn't UCD's responsibility to cite trash violations; that is the responsibility of the municipal government. If you're so anxious to indict anyone for trash collection violations, why don't you call the Philadelphia Streets Department (215-686-5560) yourself. Send them your photos of the property and the offending trash. As far UCD's working
Re: [UC] The Onion: 3-By-4 Plot Of Green Space Rejuvenates Neighborhood
I know it's The Onion, but the mock article is rather close to reality nowadays. It seems satire has a place in UC. On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/3_by_4_plot_of_green_space DETROIT—Notorious for its abandoned buildings, industrial warehouses, and gray, dilapidated roads, Detroit's Warrendale neighborhood was miraculously revitalized this week by the installation of a single, three-by-four-foot plot of green space. The green space, a rectangular patch of crabgrass located on a busy median divider, has by all accounts turned what was once a rundown community into a thriving, picturesque oasis, filled with charming shops, luxury condominiums, and, for the first time ever, hope. Enlarge Image The Johansens, who just moved to Warrendale, enjoy some outdoor time. What we've seen here is amazing, Warrendale Beautification Committee chairman Michael Pulowski said of the $150 city-funded initiative. Not only do residents feel better about themselves, but our streets are now totally safe, employment is up, and our children's test scores are through the roof. It's hard to believe this is even the same. Warrendale's incredible transformation began early Monday morning when city officials laid down the yard-wide strip of sod. Two days later dozens of boarded-up businesses were suddenly bustling with customers, and streets once littered with hypodermic needles were instead plastered with colorful murals. It all happened so quickly, said resident Jeffrey Huza, who watched the sliver of lawn single-handedly attract tourism, reduce air pollution, and bring a sense of peace and tranquility to the area. I always knew a little green would do our neighborhood good, but I never thought we'd benefit this much. I used to sit all day in the old tire yard getting high with no prospects for any kind of future, Huza continued. But now that tire yard is a library. Besides giving children a safe place to play—provided they do so one at a time—the revitalizing green space has also transformed the lives of numerous Warrendale adults. The ideal spot for short evening strolls, relaxing upright reading, and weekend picnics that don't exceed 12 square feet in total area, the new park has completely changed how many feel about their neighborhood. In fact, dozens of residents who had given up on this once violent and moribund urban wasteland almost as completely as they'd given up on life itself, have recently chosen to put down roots and start families. Sitting in the middle of the park, it's like all of the troubles of city life just melt away, said homeowner Samantha Hodge, who every day gazes at the narrow green space between two lanes of traffic and is filled instantly with calm. A week ago, I was ready to call it quits and never come back. Nowadays, I couldn't imagine living anywhere else. Enlarge Image The green space's impact is evident in Warrendale's sudden, overnight transformation from complete shithole (above) to a charming and desirable place to live (below). Local events, including a Shakespeare in the Park production of Romeo And Juliet, a breast cancer–awareness march, an outdoor concert by the London Symphony Orchestra, and a Fourth of July fireworks display are reportedly also scheduled to take place in the new green space. The towel-sized band of topsoil—to be dedicated as Warrendale Park as soon as enough room is found on its grounds to erect a sign—has brought back more than a sense of community. It has also brought back the sound of laughter. I didn't recognize it at first, it had been so long since I'd heard it, said Howard Cochrane, a lifelong resident. But there it was, ringing out like sunshine from that Heller boy who lives down the way. To see him roll his ball back and forth over the same five inches of grass—it filled my tired heart with joy. Despite the overwhelmingly positive influence of this simple patch of lawn, a number of Warrendale residents have come to regard its popularity as a double-edged sword. Everywhere I look now, well-dressed moms are pushing babies in designer strollers, high-end coffee shops are opening their doors, and fancy galleries are replacing old neighborhood bars, said mechanic Kevin Miles, who was evicted from his tenement apartment after his rent tripled almost overnight. I used to know everyone who lived here, but now it seems like half the people are college kids or vacationing Europeans. Added Miles, I never thought I'd say this, but I miss the old decrepit Warrendale. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] Heating strategies
Folks, I did the same as Kyle and I have to say that it made my finances must easier to track when my monthly gas bills weren't so disparate going from hot weather to cold. The PGW budget plan makes it easy for homeowners and tenants to pay for their gas usage, because it creates a more fixed than variable, although not completely fixed, price for the service. Most folks don't have the ability to find an extra $200, $300 or maybe even and $400 or more during the winter months. I highly advise anyone who uses PGW natural gas service to use the budget plan. Mario On Nov 15, 2007 11:04 AM, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one of the best thing i did was set up fixed payments with the gas company -- sure, you don't get the $43 bill in june, but you also don't get the $500 one in february... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Clarke Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:51 AM To: UCneighbors; University City List Subject: [Ucneighbors] Heating strategies Hello everyone, I'm wondering about supplementing our expensive house heater with individual space heaters in the rooms we use most often. I was looking at Consumer Reports and it seems that some of these heaters do a great job and may reduce the overall cost of heating. Has anyone tried this and to what degree of success? I'm also interested in fireplace inserts for their looks and heating value. I heard that there is a gas model that does not require major venting to the outside. Thanks in Advance, Joe (anti-freeze) Clarke ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
[UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] 43rd and 42nd Streets: Two robberies at gunpoint last night
Mark, Just keep everyone in the loop. This listserv, the old UC listserv, the police both on-campus and off, the local politicians and their staff, the newspapers like the DP and the Inquirer, etc. The kids that are coming over to UC to rob people or commit violent assaults are more than likely doing it out of shear hatred of the denizens of UC rather than getting money to survive. it's their way of scaring and humiliating those of us who live and work here and prosper. They don't prosper. They subsist in West Philly and get nowhere. No jobs, no decent higher education, nasty looks from the police, etc. They're trying to make everyone east of 52nd St. feel their pain by passing it on. Mario Giorno On 9/4/07, Stephen Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry to hear about the robbery. Do you know what time it occurred? That's a heavily populated corner, so it's surprising that it happened there. Best, Stephen On Sep 4, 2007, at 10:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My roommate got robbed at gunpoint last night near 43rd and Baltimore. Luckily, he wasn't hurt, but the people who robbed him (three young black men on BMX bikes) took his wallet and phone. The police said they robbed someone else at 42nd and Locust too. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to point out how statistically safe our University City Village is. However, the fact remains that residents of our neighborhood are accosted by men with guns on a very regular basis. Mark ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
[UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] 43rd and 42nd Streets: Two robberies at gunpointlast night
Mike, No proof that I could take to a court of law. I'm going on my intuition and what they police and UCD have told me about my mugging and other violent crimes being committed in UC/West Philly. I'm not trying to make a criminal case or complaint against anyone specific. Mike, or make a formal indictment. Would that I could! But I do feel that I have to advise people in the neighborhood about the dangers of walking anywhere at night in Philadelphia. This has too may violent criminals still moving around on the streets. On 9/4/07, Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So then your answer is no, you have no proof? - Mike V. -Original Message- *From:* Mario Giorno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:57 AM *To:* Mike V. *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: [Ucneighbors] 43rd and 42nd Streets: Two robberies at gunpointlast night Mike, You can call it white guilt if you want, but young black men, especially those in the Southwest are causing/commiting a lot of violent crime, half the time against other young black males. When the new students moved this week, they were easy pickins for these young teens and adolescents who have a very uncertain to hopeless future. I got mugged for no better reason than I was there. They certainly weren't after money or a major haul. This same scenario has been playing out for a few months. The police know that there are several young black males in the area who have also been forming gangs to commit violent crimes and robberies. The police are outnumbered and the students aren't careful about walking on the streets of Philly at night. I do sympathize with the plight of young black men in the city and many other big cities across the country, but I should emphasize that this doesn't mean that I admonish their crimes and misdemeanors. They need to be stopped and disciplined. They need to be shown that there are other ways to climb out of their socioeconomic hole than crime. On 9/4/07, Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have any proof of that statement, Mario, or is it just white guilt shining through? - Mike V. -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Mario Giorno *Sent:* Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:42 AM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity listserv *Subject:* Re: [Ucneighbors] 43rd and 42nd Streets: Two robberies at gunpointlast night Mark, Just keep everyone in the loop. This listserv, the old UC listserv, the police both on-campus and off, the local politicians and their staff, the newspapers like the DP and the Inquirer, etc. The kids that are coming over to UC to rob people or commit violent assaults are more than likely doing it out of shear hatred of the denizens of UC rather than getting money to survive. it's their way of scaring and humiliating those of us who live and work here and prosper. They don't prosper. They subsist in West Philly and get nowhere. No jobs, no decent higher education, nasty looks from the police, etc. They're trying to make everyone east of 52nd St. feel their pain by passing it on. Mario Giorno On 9/4/07, Stephen Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry to hear about the robbery. Do you know what time it occurred? That's a heavily populated corner, so it's surprising that it happened there. Best, Stephen On Sep 4, 2007, at 10:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My roommate got robbed at gunpoint last night near 43rd and Baltimore. Luckily, he wasn't hurt, but the people who robbed him (three young black men on BMX bikes) took his wallet and phone. The police said they robbed someone else at 42nd and Locust too. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to point out how statistically safe our University City Village is. However, the fact remains that residents of our neighborhood are accosted by men with guns on a very regular basis. Mark ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
[UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] 43rd and 42nd Streets: Two robberies at gunpointlastnight
Mike, They're taking way to much of a chance of getting an extremely harsh prison sentence carrying guns, just to get some quick cash. We're not talking about career criminals or kids getting a , forgive me for the word choice, steady job pushing weed or crack on some corner or safe house. They're going to an area that is heavily patrolled by both public law enforcement officials and private security guards on the street. They're taking a great risk challenging the powers that be in UC. They're trying to send a rather belligerent message. On 9/4/07, Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't agree. I think that ascribing their violent crimes to some sort of cultural conflict and deep nagging resentment of the privileged is a big step to make, especially considering that in order to make it, you have to pass over the far more reasonable because they wanted money. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Siano Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 12:08 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Ucneighbors] 43rd and 42nd Streets: Two robberies at gunpointlastnight Mike V. wrote: So then your answer is no, you have no proof? Well, unless you have evidence that these kids were raising money to pay for their sainted grandmothers' life-saving operation, I'd say Mario's analysis is about as reasonable as any other. - Mike V. -Original Message- *From:* Mario Giorno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:57 AM *To:* Mike V. *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: [Ucneighbors] 43rd and 42nd Streets: Two robberies at gunpointlast night Mike, You can call it white guilt if you want, but young black men, especially those in the Southwest are causing/commiting a lot of violent crime, half the time against other young black males. When the new students moved this week, they were easy pickins for these young teens and adolescents who have a very uncertain to hopeless future. I got mugged for no better reason than I was there. They certainly weren't after money or a major haul. This same scenario has been playing out for a few months. The police know that there are several young black males in the area who have also been forming gangs to commit violent crimes and robberies. The police are outnumbered and the students aren't careful about walking on the streets of Philly at night. I do sympathize with the plight of young black men in the city and many other big cities across the country, but I should emphasize that this doesn't mean that I admonish their crimes and misdemeanors. They need to be stopped and disciplined. They need to be shown that there are other ways to climb out of their socioeconomic hole than crime. On 9/4/07, *Mike V.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have any proof of that statement, Mario, or is it just white guilt shining through? - Mike V. -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Mario Giorno *Sent:* Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:42 AM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity listserv *Subject:* Re: [Ucneighbors] 43rd and 42nd Streets: Two robberies at gunpointlast night Mark, Just keep everyone in the loop. This listserv, the old UC listserv, the police both on-campus and off, the local politicians and their staff, the newspapers like the DP and the Inquirer, etc. The kids that are coming over to UC to rob people or commit violent assaults are more than likely doing it out of shear hatred of the denizens of UC rather than getting money to survive. it's their way of scaring and humiliating those of us who live and work here and prosper. They don't prosper. They subsist in West Philly and get nowhere. No jobs, no decent higher education, nasty looks from the police, etc. They're trying to make everyone east of 52nd St. feel their pain by passing it on. Mario Giorno On 9/4/07, *Stephen Fisher* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry to hear about the robbery. Do you know what time it occurred? That's a heavily populated corner, so it's surprising that it happened there. Best, Stephen
[UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] 43rd and 42nd Streets: Two robberies at gunpoint last night
Mike, The risk/reward ratio makes the money seem risky. I'll admit that if someone were an addict and had a gun, they'd rob anyone no matter what the risk. There are crimes of desperation that play out here in UC, but they're outnumbered by what are mainly crimes of social revenge and hateful antagonism. On 9/4/07, Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Stephen: I'm sorry to hear about the robbery. Do you know what time it occurred? Yes, he was robbed around 11:30 p.m. last night near 43rd and Baltimore. That's a heavily populated corner, so it's surprising that it happened there. Honestly, I'm not surprised. I think that the whole of University City is far less safe than we'd all like to think. It's also right down the street from where I live, which makes it extremely important in every empirical sense that I can think of. Who was organizing a Town Watch? ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
Re: [UC] Since the real reason for the new list is...
Al, I have to agree with Mike here. Kyle didn't start the UCNeighbor list because he was being childish or selfish and walking away with his bar and ball. He started it because the communication on this listserv is becoming petty, myopic and insulting. It's also becoming a crowded room (virtually speaking) with some loud voices trying to drown out the once speaking in a normal tone. Some people do act like they own this list and like to think that they can dictate and frame the conversation and debates that occur here. Many people have started doing the serial deleting of [UC]-labelled emails, because it's become less relevant and helpful to the average UC resident. I don't know about you, but this puts people a hair-trigger away from leaving the listserv and the community discussion that occurs here. No one is excluded or protected on Kyle's new listserv either. You can still take the conversation there, if you want to, and your bat and ball. Mario On 7/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/30/2007 10:53:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But why all of the fear and derision of the new list? The market dictates demand, right? Fear... no. Derision... well, to my mind, it's childish. Like taking your ball and getting the other last-picks for the game to go to another playground with you because they wouldn't let you be pitcher. So, when adults do it, they're certainly opening themselves to derision. Now, about [EMAIL PROTECTED] how do I sign-up? Al K -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 .
Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park
B It's meaningless to a company that wants to control it's exposure and public relations. He could be Richard Avedon or Annie Liebowitz, if he doesn't work for a news organization (newspaper, magazine, industry trade paper) that doesn't give them the kind of exposure they want, they'll be nervous about letting him in the door. It's not just Kyle, Bruce, it's any freelancer. On 7/25/07, B Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, of course, that Kyle's work is featured across the world. ;-) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Street - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Talking - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Rushdie - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee_Dee_Myers - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan On 7/25/07, Mario Giorno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B This may seem elitist, at first, but the Inky's photog has a greater press credential than Kyle. Kyle doesn't shoot for a major national news organization, he shoots for himself. With the Inky's photos and article, the Orchestra knows that it's getting regional and national media exposure that it can, to some degree, control. With an independent photog like Kyle, who isn't attached as an employee to a news organization, the Orchestra doesn't know where it's likeness is being displayed, either online or in print. Between you and me and the list, I believe that Kyle still has the legal right to shoot photography of the Orchestra when it's in a public place like Clark Park. No one owns Clark Park. Now in a concert hall or arena, it would be a different story. If the Orchestra were playing in a venue that was commercial, but not public, you would need to check with whomever owns and controls to venue. As far as I'm concerned, however, the Orchestra lost its protection from unrestricted photgraphy or media recording when they appeared in an open public park. My Two Cents, Mario On 7/25/07, B Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though its not in the online editionhttp://www.philly.com/inquirer/local, did anyone else see the photos of the conductor and the orchestra in Monday's Local News section of the Inky? If they can publish the pics, why can't Kyle? On 7/23/07, David Toccafondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kathleen, in America we have the right to take photos of pretty much whatever we want without permission--people, pets, small children, orchestras, bridges, shopping malls, houses, art museums, public property, private property, government buildings, etc. *Very* few photographs are actually illegal to take. Similarly, we have a right to publish most photos without permission. There are exceptions to these rules: We can't invade somebody's right to privacy (which is seldom an issue in a public park). We can't portray them in a false light. And we can't use photographs of people to sell a product, etc. without their permission and usually some form of payment. (although we can sell the photos themselves without permission in most cases). The Philadelphia Orchestra cannot simply declare that they constitute an exception to the law and that we aren't allowed to take or display photos of them on websites. Not only would I be allowed to publish a photo taken of them in a public park, I would most likely be within my legal rights to publish a photo i'd taken of them inside the Academy of Music. What frightens me is the number of people that believe otherwise, in this case simply because some woman in a yellow t-shirt told them so. dave On 7/23/07, Turner,Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect that if you look at the program from any performance of the Philadelphia Orchestra, there will be a statement to the effect that all recording and photography rights are reserved -- just as they are when you go to nearly any concert, I don't care whether it's the Rolling Stones or Raffi. The fact that the concert was free and in a public place doesn't override their right to control publication of photographs of the orchestra - and posting of photographs on a web site does constitute publication. Frankly, I'm quite surprised that people find this so surprising! Kathleen
Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park
B This may seem elitist, at first, but the Inky's photog has a greater press credential than Kyle. Kyle doesn't shoot for a major national news organization, he shoots for himself. With the Inky's photos and article, the Orchestra knows that it's getting regional and national media exposure that it can, to some degree, control. With an independent photog like Kyle, who isn't attached as an employee to a news organization, the Orchestra doesn't know where it's likeness is being displayed, either online or in print. Between you and me and the list, I believe that Kyle still has the legal right to shoot photography of the Orchestra when it's in a public place like Clark Park. No one owns Clark Park. Now in a concert hall or arena, it would be a different story. If the Orchestra were playing in a venue that was commercial, but not public, you would need to check with whomever owns and controls to venue. As far as I'm concerned, however, the Orchestra lost its protection from unrestricted photgraphy or media recording when they appeared in an open public park. My Two Cents, Mario On 7/25/07, B Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though its not in the online editionhttp://www.philly.com/inquirer/local, did anyone else see the photos of the conductor and the orchestra in Monday's Local News section of the Inky? If they can publish the pics, why can't Kyle? On 7/23/07, David Toccafondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kathleen, in America we have the right to take photos of pretty much whatever we want without permission--people, pets, small children, orchestras, bridges, shopping malls, houses, art museums, public property, private property, government buildings, etc. *Very* few photographs are actually illegal to take. Similarly, we have a right to publish most photos without permission. There are exceptions to these rules: We can't invade somebody's right to privacy (which is seldom an issue in a public park). We can't portray them in a false light. And we can't use photographs of people to sell a product, etc. without their permission and usually some form of payment. (although we can sell the photos themselves without permission in most cases). The Philadelphia Orchestra cannot simply declare that they constitute an exception to the law and that we aren't allowed to take or display photos of them on websites. Not only would I be allowed to publish a photo taken of them in a public park, I would most likely be within my legal rights to publish a photo i'd taken of them inside the Academy of Music. What frightens me is the number of people that believe otherwise, in this case simply because some woman in a yellow t-shirt told them so. dave On 7/23/07, Turner,Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect that if you look at the program from any performance of the Philadelphia Orchestra, there will be a statement to the effect that all recording and photography rights are reserved -- just as they are when you go to nearly any concert, I don't care whether it's the Rolling Stones or Raffi. The fact that the concert was free and in a public place doesn't override their right to control publication of photographs of the orchestra - and posting of photographs on a web site does constitute publication. Frankly, I'm quite surprised that people find this so surprising! Kathleen
Re: [UC] BIDs in the news
Glenn, I can see what Tony is describing as a matter of proper reporting. Forgive me for speaking out of line, Tony, as I'm not a journalist by profession, but have always found that journalistic norms or standards should be upheld. What people say, what people mean and finally what reporters quote or report are often not indicative of the same meaning or intention. Just because John didn't cooperate with the UCD internal investigation, doesn't mean he isn't either cooperative in general or cooperative with his co-workers at UCD. It just means he didn't want to and therefore didn't submit to an interrogation by Lewis Wendell. It's actually his right to not cooperate with such an internal investigation, if he has no legal protection/guideline in place via a work contract and internal code of conduct procedure in place. It's still factual to say that he didn't cooperate with UCD's or Wendell's investigation of the Malcolm X Park incident, but it again doesn't mean he's being generally uncooperative. Also remember that the words not cooperating or did not cooperate came from a journalist interviewing Lewis Wendell, so these are Wendell's well-chosen words and one might go further to say his intentions were to somehow prove John Fenton to be uncooperative. From a journalistic standpoint, there's nothing factually wrong with what Tony is saying, he just happens to be repeating words that were already put in place by earlier reporting of the Wendell response. What we need now is a balancing measure in the news, we need a statement from John Fenton's point of view to counterpoint Wendell's and put the issue(s) in proper focus. Right now all we have is a one-sided argument, unless you count Councilwoman tirade in support of John Fenton, and that, I'm afraid, is not the same as John speaking for himself or through an attorney. Until that happens, all of us in UC and on this list are just spinning our collective wheels and blowing a lot of hot air.. My Two Cents, Mario Giorno 36 S. 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19139 On 7/19/07, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: University City List UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:23 PM Subject: [UC] BIDs in the news Ray, That Fenton did not cooperate with the investigation is not a judgement on cooperativeness of his character, and I did not write: Fenton is not a cooperative man, which would be a true ad hominem argument. It was just a statement of fact. He did not cooperate with this investigation. No one has disputed this claim with a conflicting account that alleges cooperation. Statement of fact Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell reported that Mr. Fenton had been ordered to resign, keep silent, and had a six-month severance package to back it up! Your fact has indeed been disputed with a conflicting account. You are again calling the Councilwoman a liar in front of everyone who attended the Penn meeting. You're even denying it happened at that very public meeting! This is not journalism in which you are engaged! You and Melani have a weird second press release from Mr. Lewis Wendell to prove this uncooperative Fenton spin. You and UCD want to make this case that Mr. Fenton refused to cooperate and now you deny that Blackwell gave this contradictory public account. How can Fenton or any UCD employee cooperate while under a gag order? How can you refuse to report this conflicting account while asserting this fact? Yeah right, Mr. Wendell's documented calls. Who do you think buys this investigation? Where are these documentation records? There appears to be no limit to your arrogance! You are an embarrassment for the FOCP and The Public Record. Those of us at the Penn meeting know that Mr. Wendell had every opportunity to deny the facts of the Councilwoman's account. He refused to confirm or deny anything when he had the opportunity. No reputable journalist would take such an obvious dispute and call it a fact. At no time did you follow-up on the only account delivered publicly. Now you deny it occurred! You engage in the most obvious yellow journalism I've ever seen at close range. Mr. Moyer He may have had wise, legitimate reasons for not cooperating. Knowing John much better than you do, I am sure he had good reasons. You write that my second article was an attempt to legitimize BIDs by presenting them in a positive way. Quite the mind-reader, you are! BIDs don't need to be legitimized; they are creatures of law. I explained the process of successfully establishing a BID. To study that, one needs to look at a BID that has been successfully established. I was quite surprised, though, to discover how free of opposition the Mt. Airy BID had been. I did not make a case for it; that case had just been made, entirely without me. I pushed hard to look for dissenters, looked under the usual rocks, found none. So a fact emerges
Re: [UC] human resources
Sharrief, 1) There are now specific human resources or personnel staff listed online. I don't know if they've hired someone recently to fill this type of position, but I think it might be safe to assume that there is no director of HR. 2) If there is no HR manager, then the employees must represent themselves in workplace disputes with other employees, be they supervisors or subordinates. There is no law in PA or under federal guidelines that I'm aware of that forces a company, profit or non-profit to have an HR manager, although most businesses and organizations do, because of situations just like this. 3) John Fenton could always enter a civil dispute in court as could UCD for workplace harassment and firing without justified grounds for doing so. I don't know if John and the other UCD staff are hired at will, but if they are, the UCD director/board would have a legal right to fire John without notice or explanation. I'm now assuming that john was not hired at will, but probably a salaried, full-time vested employee with a formal work contract. If this is the case, then there would have to be prescribed explanations and guidelines of John's duties and position as well as his legal responsibilities while on the job. Mario On 7/17/07, S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to hear the list address the human resource department aspect of John Fenton's case. 1. Does UCD have an HR department? 2. Who represents the employee side? 3. What recourse should John have when allegations surface? S
Re: [UC] An Act of War: Battle lines are drawn in University City
Al, That was actually a good overview of the politics concerning John Fenton's dismissal and the UCD/Councilwoman Blackwell relationship. Do you think that this political stalemate will ever be broken? Mario Giorno 36 S. 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19139 On 7/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: City Paper's take on the community, UCD, and the NID http://www.citypaper.net/articles/2007/07/12/an-act-of-war -- Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 .
Re: [UC] An Act of War: Battle lines are drawn in University City
Sharrieff, It was an honest question. I just wanted to know if Al had an idea of how to get past this empass. Councilwoman Blackwell and UPenn have become the proverbial unstoppable force and immovable object. If we need the two to compromise and also fhave the general public in UC to force that compromise, then there has to be a way of combating the mad dash for both political and financial control over UC, its citizens, and its businesses. Do you have any suggestions to help get the greater UC community to compromise on the BID and to get Blackwell and Wendell to make this happen if, for no better reason, than that it's in the best interest of the entire UC community? Mario Giorno 36 S. 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19139 On 7/12/07, S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kind of question and response is this? It will be broken and it is up to you two to make it happen! S -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:15 AM *To:* UnivCity@list.purple.com *Subject:* Re: [UC] An Act of War: Battle lines are drawn in University City In a message dated 7/12/2007 8:47:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you think that this political stalemate will ever be broken? Mario: The opportunity certainly is there, if the people at the highest levels of Penn actually got the message that their anointed vision of an urban community doesn't sit well with many of the folks they consider the benighted masses in need of enlightenment. The 2x4 upside the head delivered by Councilwoman Blackwell certainly ought to cause them to re-evaluate what they're doing and how they're doing it. Unfortunately, I seriously doubt whether this will happen. Al K -- Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 .
Re: [UC] UCD Related
Folks, I think Brian is on to something here. The NID is a hard thing to implement, because it supposed to be funded by a base annual income taken from the citizens in is geography, ie the surcharge that the city government would collect from us each year and give to the UCD. If the UCD needed more money above and beyond the surcharge monies then they could float a bond and collect extra donations to make up the difference of the operating costs. This is in fact what Lewis Wendell and the UCD steering committee have proposed. Argumentatively, it isn't just Lewis Wendell that's failng here, it's the very idea of a NID in general amongst many of the citizens in UC. We want more transparent accountability on the part of the UCD staff and steering committee. We want UC residents partly in control of the UCD to make sure that it's doing the people's bidding, not just the high rollers' (UPenn, Drexel, the Cira Center, Campus Apartments, etc.) bidding. Ideally this is actually what happens with NIDs and they are in fact a good thing. But because UPenn and its partners came at the idea backwards by creating the organization first without legally creating it as a NID by getting community approval, they have doomed themselves and us to this constant bickering about how to use this useful organization and how to fund it. This should have been clearly defined before the UCD was created. But here we are. We must take the UCD for what is is. We may never truly come together under a generalissimo UCD director, but that's hardly a problem. If UCD stayed as it is now getting funded by local businesses and citizens by choice rather than by surcharge, it could still survive on more meager means, it would simply provide less service. The question we need to ask is, is this a better idea than sucking it and giving some percentage of our real estate tax to UCD each year so that it can do every and anything we want it to do? Do we still want to take the recommendation of Wendell and the UCD steering committee to only take 12% of the annual RE tax from those with 4 or more bedroom units on the property? Do we want every landowner to maybe pay 6% of their annual RE tax instead so that everyone has skin in the game and can vote to restrain or enbolden specific UCD practices or works. Brian's right. This will only work if we will it to work. Lewis Wendell will do all that he can to keep UCD afloat and hopefully efficient and productive, but he and th rest of the UCD can't do it without our support. Eventually we as a community will have to make a deliberate attempt to uphold UCD or destroy it. Whatever democratic dialogue has been exchanged on this list for the past 2 years about what to do with UCD will become purely academic unless we the citizens of UC either shit or get off the pot. We need to reconsider the UCD NID plan. If changes need to be made, then we need to tell UCD what those specific legal and/or financial changes are and come to a compromise. If Lewis Wendell and his staff are out there and reading this post, please believe that you will have to give the local community the control it wants over everyday practices of UCD, if not day-to-day decisions. A charter that contains language from community member input will need to be discussed. While there are standard legal guidelines for NIDs in most every state, there is also the ability for each individual NID to create special stipulations and agreements that are specific to the community or neighborhood it serves and represents. I'm sure there is some compromise solution that can be worked out that will satisfy the majority of the UC landowning population as well as the current major UCD benefactors on the steering committee. I suggest that UC residents on this list post the one major concession or stipulation that you want UCD to honor, if we allow it to become a NID representing our neighborhood. One item of compromise above all others that you personally would require of the UCD. Send it to the listserv and after enough of the items are posted, then we can how rational and doable they really are from both our perspective and UCD's perspective. Mario Giorno 36 S. 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19139 On 6/26/07, Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/25/2007 3:57:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes (to Sali): Currently, the folks on the Board are footing the majority of the bill for clean and safe efforts in wide areas of University City. Do you think they'll keep doing that Wouldn't it depend on the extent to which the various parties are being honest about their intentions and agendas, and the corresponding goals for what a Special Services District (SSD) might be constituted to achieve, whether there's a real partnership between Penn (and the other institutions) and the community, the degree to which a NID might get back on the table after
Re: [UC] UCD Related
Folks, I will reiterate my request at the end of my last post on this thread. If there were on concession or stipulation above all others that you would require from the UCD before we gave them NID status, what would it be. If we want to actually create a NID, we need to compromise with the UCD staff and steering committee on what specific work it will do, how it will carry out this work and what overriding guidelines, rules or best practices you want the institution to follow. For those of you who don't know exactly what UCD is, just go to http://www.ucityphila.org to view their website. Their website offers information about the organization and its mission. Under the University City Information subheading on their home page, click the tab that says: BID Business Improvement District Information This will bring you up to speed on the NID/BID discussion. Mario Giorno 36 S. 48th Street Philadelphia, PA19139 On 6/26/07, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A good point that Al makes is that there seems to be no knowledge, scientifically, of what people who live here actually think about ucd. Are we all in this together? I have no idea if 2% of the population is in favor of UCD or 97%. As far as I can tell, there's never been a survey, so we're all in the dark about who's in what with whom. Community meetings only bring out a certain subset of the population, as do community organizations. I'd be interested in someone going door-to-door and polling 2,000 residents and finding out how they feel about not just this, but a variety of community issues. I suspect that most of them would actually say UCD who? Kc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:50 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] UCD Related In a message dated 6/26/2007 12:28:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't remember who said it first (it might have been sharrieff) that ultimately UCD is accountable to it's funders. You're not getting the sense of the statement. It was that UCD is accountable to its funders, which explains why they're at such cross-purposes with the community in general. And the reason why transparency and participation should be the modus operandi is that Penn keeps touting its partnership with the community as if we're all in it together. The unpleasant reality is that Penn does what it pleases -- and co-opts a few local groups so it can make believe it has a partnership going. The whole thing is a lie. Has been from the start. Still is. The anointed are so sure they've got the franchise on wisdom and morality that they never listen or learn. That's why the NID is dead. That's why Wendell is a has-been. Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503 . You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] UCD Related - Whoa
Mike, Let me know what one requirement, if you were a landowner, you would want UCD or a NID/BID to follow above all others. What major requirement would you make of your local NID/BID? Mario On 6/26/07, Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what can we (we being people opposed to the cranks and greedy landlords and other anti-BID forces) do? - Mike V.
Re: [UC] UCD - clarifying the UCD/BID relationship
Melani, Why does the UCD, its staff and steering committee, want to have two separate legal entities? What would the scope of control be in such a scenario? I'm assuming both non-profit orgs would each have their own separate funds. Would the local landowners paying into the BID/NID no longer have any say in how UCD is run, even if they have a say on how the BID/NID is run? Why would the neighborhood want two non-profit entities when only one seems to be required here? What is the reasoning for this increase in bureaucracy? At what point was this dual entity solution explicitly put forward. Every meeting I've gone to in the past two years and the discussion by Mr. Huston mentioned nothing about there being two non-profits, one the BID/NID and one the current UCD. Mario Giorno 36 S. 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19139 On 6/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * In a message dated 6/26/07 12:07:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * But here we are. We must take the UCD for what is is. We may never truly come together under a generalissimo UCD director, but that's hardly a problem. If UCD stayed as it is now getting funded by local businesses and citizens by choice rather than by surcharge, it could still survive on more meager means, it would simply provide less service. The question we need to ask is, is this a better idea than sucking it and giving some percentage of our real estate tax to UCD each year so that it can do every and anything we want it to do? Do we still want to take the recommendation of Wendell and the UCD steering committee to only take 12% of the annual RE tax from those with 4 or more bedroom units on the property? Do we want every landowner to maybe pay 6% of their annual RE tax instead so that everyone has skin in the game and can vote to restrain or enbolden specific UCD practices or works. Brian's right. This will only work if we will it to work. Lewis Wendell will do all that he can to keep UCD afloat and hopefully efficient and productive, but he and th rest of the UCD can't do it without our support. Eventually we as a community will have to make a deliberate attempt to uphold UCD or destroy it. Whatever democratic dialogue has been exchanged on this list for the past 2 years about what to do with UCD will become purely academic unless we the citizens of UC either shit or get off the pot. We need to reconsider the UCD NID plan. If changes need to be made, then we need to tell UCD what those specific legal and/or financial changes are and come to a compromise. Just to be clear, the BID proposal was IN ADDITION to the current UCD services. It was to fund clean and safe operations on MORE streets. What was proposed was *not to replace* the UCD with a BID; it was *to add* a BID component to the already existing UCD. So there would have been a BID with a Steering Committee, working with the UCD and its Board - a little bit like what Guy Laren proposed, when he suggested that somebody else could form a BID and subcontract to UCD for workers and services. So if the frugal landlords prevail and there is no BID, that does not automatically shut down the UCD; it just doesn't allow the expansion of services farther into the western and more residential areas of the neighborhood. Which some folks think is just fine, if they do lots of block clean ups and aren't feeling the need for more safety ambassador patrols. But what's happening now, in this outcry of anger at the UCD, must be making the people who pay for the UCD itself pause. If the neighborhood doesn't want their free clean, safe and marketing efforts - what should they do? Might they feel it's better to get out of the hot seat and quietly go back inside their buildings and do nothing? Would that really be an improvement for us in the neighborhood? Melani Lamond *Melani Lamond, Associate Broker* *Urban Bye, Realtor* 3529 Lancaster Ave. Philadelphia, PA 19104 cell phone 215-356-7266 office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113 office fax 215-222-1101 ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [UC] UCD Related - Whoa
I second that emotion! On 6/26/07, Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Putting more feet on the street and reducing neighborhood crime levels would be my #1. - Mike V. -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Mario Giorno *Sent:* Tuesday, June 26, 2007 2:07 PM *To:* univcity@list.purple.com *Subject:* Re: [UC] UCD Related - Whoa Mike, Let me know what one requirement, if you were a landowner, you would want UCD or a NID/BID to follow above all others. What major requirement would you make of your local NID/BID? Mario On 6/26/07, Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what can we (we being people opposed to the cranks and greedy landlords and other anti-BID forces) do? - Mike V.
Re: [UC] UCD - clarifying the UCD/BID relationship
Melani, Thanks for the information. I guess there are a good deal of competing interests. all the more reason for getting people to tell the greater community what specifically they want out of both the UCD and NID/BID organization. I'll also have to look into the laws governing the establishment and use of NIDs in Pennsylvania. I'll have to beg the indulgence of a lawyer to explain any inherent restrictions or prohibitions that PA has regulated for NIDs. Mario :-) On 6/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/26/07 2:07:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Melani, Why does the UCD, its staff and steering committee, want to have two separate legal entities? What would the scope of control be in such a scenario? I'm assuming both non-profit orgs would each have their own separate funds. Would the local landowners paying into the BID/NID no longer have any say in how UCD is run, even if they have a say on how the BID/NID is run? Why would the neighborhood want two non-profit entities when only one seems to be required here? What is the reasoning for this increase in bureaucracy? At what point was this dual entity solution explicitly put forward. Every meeting I've gone to in the past two years and the discussion by Mr. Huston mentioned nothing about there being two non-profits, one the BID/NID and one the current UCD. Mario Giorno Hi, Mario, I'm sure everybody's getting tired of my posts this afternoon, and Al is probably going to threaten again to sue me, so I'll try to be brief. And remember that I am not an official or even unofficial spokesperson for the UCD or the BID. I'm sorry that the BID meetings weren't more informative, but would you agree that there were a number of folks at the meetings who wanted to create an uproar rather than getting down to working out the details? You ask a very good question. The UCD was founded before the PA enabling legislation allowed a BID to be funded by landlords, so that's why the organization didn't start out as a BID. Maybe someday the two would be able, if the BID were to be approved, to streamline into one organization. But right now the UDC exists and the BID remains uncertain, given the very vocal opposition, so I don't think anyone considered CLOSING the UCD and REPLACING it. Plus, the landlords who have provided feedback and the community reps who have chimed in have stated that they don't want marketing and some other components. So, the BID as proposed currently would concentrate on clean and safe and stay out of the services that its funders don't want. But others involved with the UCD do want those services, so if there are two organizations working together, the people who want the other services (the institutions) can pay the UCD for those AND for their share of clean and safe, and the BID funders can pay only for the limited services they want. I'm not sure the landlords want to pay for park improvements, etc., but to others, those are the things we wouldn't want to do without. The BID proposal didn't change the makeup of the UCD board, so where there are currently landlords and community representatives on the UCD board, they would still be there. It proposed a BID advisory board of *landlords and business owners*, most recently written to have several each in the categories of larger, midsized and smaller entities. As I mentioned before, suggestions and changes have been heard, considered, and incorporated into the proposal as much as possible under BID law. Unfortunately the BID law does not allow some of the suggestions folks have made, and some folks seem disinclined to believe that; instead, they just fault the UCD for not doing things THEIR way. There are a lot of issues, wants needs to be considered - including the law! Your point is helpful - if you weren't aware of this, others probably weren't either, and we won't be able to get anywhere till we all understand the ground rules. Thanks, Melani *Melani Lamond, Associate Broker* *Urban Bye, Realtor* 3529 Lancaster Ave. Philadelphia, PA 19104 cell phone 215-356-7266 office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113 office fax 215-222-1101 ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [UC] UCD Related
Tony (or should I say, Earthlink), You crack me up! That's it. your nickname from now on is Earthlink. Whenever I mention you on the list, it will by this new monicker. On 6/26/07, Earthlink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How the crap did I turn into Earthlink on my own incoming email, simply because I switched my email account to Earthlink today? It's really unpleasant to get an email from yourself in which you call yourself Earthlink, even though you aren't. You know what I mean: the name in the From box. My god ... does this mean I too have been coopted? -- Tony West - Original Message - *From:* Earthlink [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* UnivCity@list.purple.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [UC] UCD Related I must correct this proposition, which cannot be entirely true as it stands. Anyone who shows up at a First Thursday meeting will meet representatives from three dozen agencies and associations that provide all sorts of services to all sorts of West Philadelphians. That's not a few local groups. Penn tries to funnel a broad spectrum of resources to all these groups, whose issues range from public safety, health, education and social services to culture and neighborhood planning ... they are far too diverse to pigeonhole. These groups are eager to partner with Penn; that is, they are always hopeful the largest economic and professional engine in their part of town can contribute something constructive to their communities. But it is ludicrous to describe them as coopted. If they were, indeed, coopted, why did they, by and large, offer Penn so little support at the last First Thursday meeting over the Fenton issue? It is normal for business partners to display some courtesy to each other when they are engaged in a long-term, mutually beneficial relationship, even if there are divergences of opinion at times. For reasons like these, senior KRF Apt. managers refrain from spray-painting comments like Yuppie JAP Snob! on their Penn-affiliated tenants' windows, even after acrimonious disputes over rental service. That doesn't mean KRF has been coopted by Penn; it is simply trying to be courteous and productive. Permit, then, other community institutions to relate to Penn with equal professionalism. It would be far more helpful, in my opinion, if critics of a particular community group's relationship with Penn would focus on that particular group and its particular inadequacies. If it is doing something wrong with Penn, spell out for all of us exactly what is wrong with what that group is doing. In other words: name names and cite facts. Ther may be a couple of local groups that have been unhealthily coopted by Penn. I don't work closely with any group that has been so coopted, but I'm willing to believe they exist. Which are they, and what shows they were coopted, i.e., persuaded to do something most people around here don't like, simply because Penn liked it? -- Tony West And the reason why transparency and participation should be the modus operandi is that Penn keeps touting its partnership with the community as if we're all in it together. The unpleasant reality is that Penn does what it pleases -- and co-opts a few local groups so it can make believe it has a partnership going. Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman
[UC] Gallows Humor
Folks, I think that it's okay to joke about the misery of life. After all, if we didn't make ourselves laugh, we'd by crying our eyes out every day and paranoid with fear. I think the humor breaks through the fear and forces us to gain a thicker skin and grow sharper teeth. It makes us harder and more prepared to take what life and the universe can dish out. Hopefully, however, it doesn't makes us so cynical that we actually forget what reality lies behind the humor. FWIW, Mario Giorno
Re: [UC] Cindy Sheehan gives up - Underestimated Changes (Paul U Advisory)
Bill, Pay no attention to the man behind the red curtain. He has no better reason to write a post to the listserv than to vilify Ms. Sheehan as all neo-cons do and find pleasure in her pain. It's a rather sociopathic catharsis to say the least. I was always taught never to seek solace or comfort in the suffering of others. It was a Christian ethic, a Catholic ethic and as I've grown up I've found that it's an almost universal moral ethic. She's right, much as I hate to see her throw in the towel at Camp Casey, but there wasn't enough impetus for her to keep the attention of the public. Her reasons for protest are still sound, even if she's out of steam. The values of this great nation are far more varied and numerous than those of Craig's myopic viewpoint. As such as he disparages liberals, progressives and Democrats simply because of their label. He doesn't see the reasoning behind the argument Ms. Sheehan and others have put forward about the U.S. occupation of Iraq. He refuses to acknowledge that we were deceived into going to war and after overthrowing the Baathist regime of Sadam Hussein we were led astray by Bush administration again, because they had no realistic plan to rebuild the country and deploy our troops out of the country. The fact that the Al-Quaeda insurgency has only continued to grow year after year, that the Suni/Shiite rift has been allowed to spread wide into a civil war. The Bush administration has refused help or aid from the neighboring countries in the Middle East both before and after the occupation. And yet he has thrown too few U.S. troops into the occupation even against the experienced advice of military leadership. And then he had the nerve to enforce a backdoor draft to force reservist troops to overstay their tours in Iraq. Men and women in the reserves have their lives on hold back in the states, because they can't get a straight answer about exactly how long they will be kept in service. Their losing their businesses and homes, because they're not at work earning a decent income, they're in the reserves beyond their required period of service, because the military can't keep up with recruitment quotas. There's more but I've already spent too much time on this post. Bring our troops home. End the U.S. occupation of Iraq. Mario Giorno 36 S. 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19139 On 5/29/07, Bill Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm startled that you would juxtapose an example of military humor with Cindy Sheehan. Whatever you think of her cause, she is a parent who has lost a child. I hope that you would find more sympathy among your neighbors should you suffer similarly.
Re: [UC] The IRS on political involvement by tax-exempt organizations
ATTN: University City Listserv RE: UCD and the possible violation of their tax-exempt status I think we're finally getting down to the prescient legal issues about this situation. John Fenton's guilt has already been pronounced by some people off-list, on-list and, judging by his suspension with pay, possibly within UCD. We know nothing specific about any actual legal charge that has been raised against UCD in general or John Fenton specifically. I say John Fenton is innocent until proven guilty. **We have to give Mr. Fenton the benefit of the doubt before passing judgment.** There's still too much circumstantial evidence and testimony that haven't been properly disputed. I would eventually like to hear some new public statement by Mr. Wendell, the director of UCD, about this matter. Lewis Wendell's measured response is a certainly reasonable from a legal standpoint, but to the local community it's still a little disquieting. I've not heard Mr. Wendell at least defend Mr. Fenton's right to explain himself or give full testimony of what happened the day of the rally in Malcolm X Park. If I were a journalist, police detective or district attorney, I'd be sniffing around for more information from the employees of the University City District. This all begins and ends with them and their deposition of what they had intended to due during the Knox rally and why. After they've fully disclosed to the public what it is they were doing, we then have to look at other involved party's like Councilwoman Blackwell. Did Councilwoman Blackwell actually ask for a help or assistance that should not have been coming from a tax-exempt 501(c)(3) organization? How much does Ms. Blackwell ask UCD to do? and why? **We have to give Mr. Fenton the benefit of the doubt before passing judgment.** Mario Giorno 36 S. 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19139 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 5/25/07, Doc Baldy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does that mean that Walker posted Knox posters or that yellow jackets or even Councilwoman' Blackwell's other volunteers posted Knox posters while Walker set up the moon bounce? I don't believe Walker ever specifically stated that he was directed to hang Knox posters. Cheers, Stephen On 5/25/07, Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original article in the Daily News says this:Included in the setup were Knox for Mayor posters, which made Walker think this was unusual community service indeed. Frank On May 25, 2007, at 10:24 AM, S. Sharrieff Ali wrote: There is no evidence or statement saying the volunteers participated in promoting or opposing a candidate in any way. -- -- University City Yoga http://www.ucyoga.com
Re: [UC] Nutter - More than 65% in 27th Ward
Bruce, I believe it means that she isn't a king-maker, at least not anymore. Mario On 5/16/07, B Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does that say about the coucilwoman who backed knox? On 5/16/07, Kirk Wattles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (The 27th Ward is from Market Street south, east of 45th, and along Woodland Ave in a chunk a couple of blocks wide out to 52nd.) From the Philadelphia Inquirer, Thomas Fitzgerald's article at: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_page/ 20070516_Message_of_change_a_winner.html In the end, Nutter held his base among the white liberals who, polls showed, were most concerned about political reform. He won 65 percent or more of the vote in the Fifth and Eighth Wards of Center City, the Ninth Ward in Chestnut Hill, and the 27th Ward in University City. He also won most of the city's predominantly black wards. Nutter ran first in North Philadelphia and first or a close second behind Fattah in West Philadelphia, usually getting 33 percent of the vote or more. Nutter also did better in traditionally white wards than most previous black candidates. In the half-dozen wards that make up most of the Upper Northeast, for instance, he got 25 to 30 percent of the vote. -- Kirk Wattles [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... Pay-To Say
Folks, I have to share Sharrieff's fear of the social persuasion of media companies in politics and public policymaking. If the editorial staff and columnists at a particular newspaper offer a best choice candidate that they endorse in their own opinion pieces, they have the power of a mass media outlet to sway opinion, a privilege most citizens do not have. But there is another side to this argument of the local newspapers or indeed any newspaper endorsing a political candidate for elected office. First and foremost, journalists/reporters must disseminate facts to the general public in as unbiased a way as is possible. Journalists have an almost sacred duty to that effect and they take it as a deadly serious responsibility. Columnists, on the other hand, are paid to be part journalist and part problem-solver. They take the same facts that the pure journalist finds and develop inferences and build forensic (as in forensic debating, not the CSI type) arguments based on those facts as their logical support. That's a far too tedious was of saying that they develop an informed opinion. It's this informed opinion that you're attacking in the local newpapers endorsing Michael Nutter and I have to say that you're wasting worrying about it. In the end, it's just an opinion. you can write an op-ed piece and send to the Inquirer, the Daily News, the Daily Pennsylvania, etc, but that would still just be your opinion. When the editorial staff of a newspaper can lend their brain power to the public to ferret out who would make the best leader or candidate they usually do it, because they're trying to help the reader see the legitimate reasons for choosing a candidate. They don't hold a gun to the public's head and say vote for Nutter or I'll blow your brains out. As one of the previous contributors to this thread pointed out that the public can make up it's own mind, even if it's sees a biased or opinionated piece of writing in a newspaper. Even with the media power behind a newspaper, it's a free press with the right of free speech and the public has the right to decide for themselves. There's no crime or abuse taking place. We all just have to learn to live with other people's opinions and points of view. FWIW, Mario Giorno
Re: [UC] FREE PARIS HILTON!
Folks, Writing about this young woman's plight is about as useful as a fridge in the Antarctic, but here goes. She may deserve somebody or everybody's compassion, but she deserves no pity. She is a human being and has inherent moral and spiritual worth, but she is also a vacuous waste of time as far as human being's go. She epitomizes the aggrandizement of material wealth and physical beauty by the public over moral, ethical and socially relevant qualities in human beings. She's mass without substance, she's a media hog who establishes or causes car wreck situations in her own life and even more sadly in the lives of people around her. Her family is wealthy, which gives her access to the resources used to cause whatever event she decides she wants to cause. I don't know her and I have little need to know her. I would like to meet her to discuss what she believes or thinks she has been doing with her life up to this point and how she feels about the perception of other people around her, be they family, friends or the general public. I would like to know for sure that her life isn't the publicist's dream of moving from one very public media-captured incident to another to keep her name in the papers. I would like to give her the benefit of any doubt that she is basically a good person, who means nobody any harm. I would like to think that she is making mistakes and not creating calculated spectacles. At least then I could offer her some compassion, because she really doesn't mean to do anything harmful or selfish. But with only the media record and some not-so-friendly reporting in the Hollywood press and talk shows, all that I and most of the world can see is again the vacuous, preening young woman who seems to be fated with accidents and behaves inappropriately in public. I hate like hell to speak ill of anyone, even if I can't stand him or her. I'm writing this little encyclical because everybody in the media keeps giving her not only the (over)exposure she seems to crave, but also admonishes her behavior by editorially choosing to making it news. I feel people in the media must stop giving her the space in their magazines or newspapers or newscasts, but so long as the public likes to watch her car wreck moments and generate ad revenues for the media, that probably won't happen. My plea to you is to ignore her antics and her life. Don't watch her on the news, watch whats happening in Iraq, in Kansas, in the U.S. Senate, in your local community. She is to news what spam is to email, just delete her quickly and move on to a relevant piece of communication. FWIW, Mario On 5/9/07, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ross, I'm glad you're making this effort. When this outrage is over, I hope Paris buys a house here in the village. Here in the district, we have a motto; laws are for little people All these rules that are made don't apply to the elite here. Would UCD make everything illegal here if these were meant to apply to the elite? Hell no! If Paris were here now, she'd be choosing her dress for Party for the park and that damn judge would be sitting in jail with young black men. - Original Message - *From:* Ross Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* University City listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11 javascript:void(0):25 AM *Subject:* [UC] FREE PARIS HILTON! I know that some cranks may complain that this is not directly relevant to the University City Village community, but it is a cause which is deeply in my heart and so I'm asking your help in signing the petition to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to PARDON Paris Hilton. As the petition states, Paris provides beauty and excitement to our otherwise mundane lives, and it would be just such a shame if she had to do her 45 days in stir. The complete petition may be found at: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/PH21781 To: The Honorable Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger Paris Whitney Hilton is an American celebrity and socialite. She is an heiress to a share of the Hilton Hotel fortune, as well as to the real estate fortune of her father Richard Hilton. She provides hope for young people all over the U.S. and the world. She provides beauty and excitement to (most of) our otherwise mundane lives. Again, Paris is a cause close to my heart. I know if Cassidy got 45 days for violating HIS probation we'd all chip in and write to the governor. So PLEASE fellow UC folks, go to the website and sign the petition. With heartfelt thanks, -- Ross Bender http://rossbender.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/794 - Release Date: 5/8/2007 2:23 PM
Re: [UC] FREE PARIS HILTON! - jail her mother
On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/9/2007 12 javascript:void(0):46:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Folks, Writing about this young woman's plight is about as useful as a fridge in the Antarctic, but here goes. Geez, you're rich with time. Not always, Craig, but sometimes I get the urge to speak. ... She epitomizes the aggrandizement of material wealth and physical beauty by the public over moral, ethical and socially relevant qualities in human beings. ... media hog But, you are too kind to participate in the slaughter. Not slaughter, Craig, criticism. I'm not trying to bring her down or destroy her. If anything, my intuition tells me she someone on her side to give a little advice, a good talking-to or discipline. I can't exactly say I empathize with her, but I don't like seeing her drudge herself or other through the callous and thankless media. I would like to meet her ... I would like to ... offer her some compassion ... Listen you left wing anti-American-Culture socialist, move to France. That's about as close to Paris as you are going to get. Now that you mention it, I and my girlfriend just spent a week in Paris at the end of March. It was clean, beautiful, full art, music and romance. The food, the wine and the coffee were great. I had the time of my life. The French were actually helpful if I wasn't quite speaking French all too well. The service in the restaurants, cafes and hotels was first rate. People drove small cars that didn't use fuel wastefully. It was an oasis of clear thought, logic, and most of all, that great America trait common sense. Now back to America. So I'm a left wing anti-American-Culture socialist am I?! Well I can agree that many of my political, economic and sociological leanings are socialist, which would definitely put me toward the left wing politically. You're right about that much. But I am neither anti-American nor anti-American-Culture. I am an American and I live in and am a part of American culture. It is me and I am it, for better or worse. Whether I moved to the North Pole, an apartment in Paris or the surface of Mars, I will always be an American. My criticism of her antics in the media eye and the media itself is valid. It would be valid even if she were a celebrity making an ass out of herself in the British media or the media of any other culture. As far as getting close to Paris is concerned, I already have a girlfriend thank you. And if the lovely young heiress were to actually take any man to her bedroom, I think I speak for all of us when I say you'd better bring condoms, spermicide and a healthy dose of antibiotics. ... My plea to you is to ignore her antics and her life. ... watch whats happening in Iraq, in Kansas, in the U.S. Senate, in your local community. ... She is to news what spam is to email, just delete her quickly and move on to a relevant piece of communication. FWIW, Mario Oh, OK, you're forgiven for your spam. And, how generous for us not to delete you. Why, Craig, delete little ole me. Why ever would you want to do that?! Think of all the scintillating conversation you'd miss out on. Ciao, Craig -- See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503.
Re: [UC] RE: Vote for Nutter
Folks, I've had my heart set on Michael Nutter since last fall and I'm glad to some local voters sharing the same desire to elect him. This five horse race Democratic primary has left many people in Philly with conflicted feelings about choosing candidates who have paid their dues vs. those who are simply the smartest and most capable of enacting positive change in Philly. i've long since given up the notion that any candidate in Philly or anywhere on Earth deserves to be put into office, because they've either just hung around long enough or bought the influence of other power brokers. Nutter, to me, is the only candidate who can not only rise above, but perhaps even get rid of this culture of political entitlement within the Democratic party in Philadelphia. Mario Giorno On 5/4/07, Susan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am also endorsing Nutter! Elmo the Cat also endorses Nutter! sj Susan Jacobson, PhD Department of Journalism Temple University [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Why the Virginia Tech Shootings Happened
Folks, This disparate level of coverage over Iraqis who die in the conflict/police action/insurgent war/civil war in Iraq versus the 32 murdered students at VT is a form of cultural and national dissonant communication. It part of the debate over the editorializing of all news coverage, where the editors of news papers and TV news departments must decide what events to cover and to what extent they should cover them over time. The VT murders along with the Columbine murders take precedence on U.S. new coverage, mostly because it's (1) An event occurring within the U.S., (2) it's a bleeding lead, which is just another way of saying that if enough human death or injury, the more interesting and relevant the story becomes to the general public and (3) it was performed by a purpetrator, a bad guy, who could be immediately or quickly identified and vilified. The past weeks death toll in Baghdad and its outskirts from either insurgent terrorist/Suni-on-Shia attacks do qualify as lead stories and have been prevelantly covered in print media and TV news sources. This news item certainly meets the second and third criteria mentioned above, but not the first and this is the problem. The approximate 150 deaths in Baghdad this week were poor, faceless Iraqi citizens who have no real, truly secular national news media. If an Iraq press or TV network of any journalistic standing actually put forward all of these deaths in a news story that got 24-hr a day coverage, then the U.S. news agencies could carry those stories through to the U.S. market more readily and actually put faces to these faceless Iraqis. However, Iraqi media is controlled by religious sectarian groups who don't report from a non-biased secular tradition of journalism. As far as U.S. media keeping these dead Iraqis on TV or in print constantly for a week or more would also require that people in the U.S. find these deaths as relevant to them in their daily lives as the kids at VT. The kids at VT mean something to people here in the U.S., they are us. The people dying in Iraq simply put aren't us and in a sense their lives don't count as much to Americans or their media outlets, even though they are probably losing their lives because of the actions of our government's invasion and current foreign policy in Iraq and the greater Middle East, and military presence there. None of these deaths both at VT or in Baghdad are acceptable. They are all despicable acts of violence perpetrated by cowardly, morally-misguided human beings On 4/20/07, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my way out the door yesterday I heard that there were 130 dead in Baghdad an as many again wounded that day. But without the 24/7 CNN coverage, it all seems so far away. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Vincent/Roger Thanks for posting this, Ray. My first thought about the Virginia Tech shootings was that -- said as it was -- the equivalent loss of life, or often more, happens just about every day in Iraq.
Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement
Jim, Do you mean a progression of linguistic dialect or the progression of logical argument? Mario Giorno On 4/6/07, Jim Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its dialectical progression. Jim On 4/6/07, Margie Politzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's perfect. I love it. It seems that now there's a new group riled at the rich folk who moved in and priced everything out of reach; and they definately have a point. I noticed this afternoon that these have started popping up: http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/westphilly.jpg -- Jim Cummings You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] [Announcement] Vote for Andy Toy
Folks, Monday night, the 19th, during the 4 Year Vigil of the Iraq War in Clark Park an older couple came up to me an the others at the vigil handing out Any Toy literature. They said that he was their son and running for City Councilman-At-Large. He seemed to have a good deal of community and non-profit experience. For anyone who has questions, here is his website: http://www.andytoy07.com. Mario Giorno 36 S. 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19139 On 3/30/07, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) Does anyone know the origininator of this post, since it came out after the fact that it wasn't from the candidate or his campaign organization. NO b) Was Andy introduced as a speaker during the event, NOT THAT I HEARD OR SAW if so by whom, and also if so was the introduction an implied or express endorsement -- say, as opposed to a thanks for attending or for some assistance he had provided in getting the project implemented. Can anybody provide answers to either or both of the above (in words of one syllable or less)? I saw someone who I took to be andy toy handing out andy toy literature. I saw lewis talking. His talk was like Hey, thanks for coming, we're going to give out some keychains, check your ticket stub to see if it matches! I didn't hear anybody get endorsed and I didn't see or hear the guy handing out the Andy Toy literature get up and speak or get an endorsement. There were a bunch of people there from Philly Car Share. Jannie Blackwell was there. As far as I know, none of them got endorsed or asked to speak. I figured the post to the list was from someone who hated Andy Toy. I have no idea who he is. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] hitchhikers guide opens at curio march 15 -- who's going?
I know I am!!! On 3/12/07, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I may interrupt this little brawl about god and council, I'd like to point out that part 2 of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy opens on March 15th and I'd like to show up with a bunch of supportive neighbors ready to laugh and create a scene and support one of the really good things that happens here. I've been waiting for this one for a year. If you want to let me know off-list that you'll be coming along I'll see about scheduling a meetup so we can all tromp in at once like conquering Gauls and take up all the seats in the front row. Kyle
Re: [UC] Recycling Question
Leila, The caps and pumps have to come off. The cartons that contained liquid beverages are generally considered garbage, because they stay in contact with perishables, so just chuck those in the garbage for now. If you have containers like cereal boxes that hold dry food, you can recycle those boxes. Mario Giorno 36 S. 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19139 On 3/6/07, Leila Graham-Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are any of the following able to be recycled with the new expansion in our area: cardboard milk juice containers lids of any type (plastic, metal, etc.) spray and pump mechanisms from plastic cleaning bottles, soap dispeners etc. Thanks, Leila _ Rates near 39yr lows! $430K Loan for $1,399/mo - Paying Too Much? Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-18226moid=7581 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Penn's Evil Plot Unmasked
You have way too much time on your hands. On 2/27/07, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] from an article about the continuing battle being fought by Penn Grad Students for enough of a stipend to pay for the escalating costs of living in University City So insidious is this plot, and so well crafted that even Al is now thinking of Penn students not as entitled, over-privileged whiners with dad's credit card, but instead the hard laboring hoi polloi, scratching out a living in the hardscrabble wilds of West Philadelphia, barely able to afford a Fu Wah hoagie. It's time for this conspiracy to be unmasked and the members of the responsible Penn cabal held in the bright light of truth. Let me show you how it works: 1) Penn spends millions of dollars on a PR campaign and security blitzkrieg to make west Philly safe past 40th st. 2) Students scramble from their tiny hovels in center city to the luxurious spaces of west Philly, enjoying driveways, back yard bbq's and concerts in Clark Park. 3) Landlords, drunk with power, raise rents 300% over a period of six years, using this windfall to buy more property and renovate existing spaces into bacchanalian bourgeoisie paradises. 4) There is a veritable windfall for those who install recessed lighting and under-floor heating. 5) Penn unleashes their secret pincer movement -- they open up a 400 bed hi-rise dorm on campus, located immediately adjacent to quietly installed amenities such as a used book store, used record store, ritzy theater, mid range Mexican restaurants and grocery store. 6) Penn hires goons to cause a well publicized mini crime wave on the edge of campus. 7) Penn opens the new dorms advertising stop paying those inflated UC rents, get rid of your car and walk to everything! 43% safer than west of 40th! 8) A sudden mass exodus of Penn students from the carefully renovated apartments of West Philly creates a property vacuum. 9) Unable to pay their mortgages as rents in the hood plummet back to 1997 rates, landlords begin to default on their loans. The whole house of cards begins to unravel. 10) Penn buys up the defaulted properties at pennies on the dollar, driving landlords and real-estate speculators from west Philly like whipped dogs and cementing their hold on 72% of all residential properties in the area, now with recessed lighting and under-floor heating. 11) Penn spends millions of dollars on a PR campaign and security blitzkrieg to make west Philly safe past 40th st.. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Penn's Evil Plot Unmasked
You all have way too much time on your hands. Start a petition. Call the Dr. Guttman's office. Call the local police precinct to get more specifics on recent assaults and violent crime. Ask the companies developing the new condos on 40th and Chestnut (the Hub comin' atcha!!!) and 34th and Chestnut. See if they think local/campus assaults and violent crime brings people to their door. Get a hold of a real estate agent and and he or she if crimes stats have that much of an actual effect on UC real estate purchases, now or ever. Be constructive. On 2/27/07, Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or spending too much time on the internet. Frank On Feb 27, 2007, at 08:54 PM, Wilma de Soto wrote: Thanks, Frank. I would agree. I prefer, You've been watching too much television!. On 2/27/07 7:40 PM, Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never. On Feb 27, 2007, at 07:18 PM, Brian Siano wrote: Mario Giorno wrote: You have way too much time on your hands. I, for one, like extended pieces of comic writing and argument. They reflect thought, care, and effort. But there's always room for the old standards. You have way too much time on your hands. When is that _ever_ not funny? On 2/27/07, *Kyle Cassidy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from an article about the continuing battle being fought by Penn Grad Students for enough of a stipend to pay for the escalating costs of living in University City So insidious is this plot, and so well crafted that even Al is now thinking of Penn students not as entitled, over-privileged whiners with dad's credit card, but instead the hard laboring hoi polloi, scratching out a living in the hardscrabble wilds of West Philadelphia, barely able to afford a Fu Wah hoagie. It's time for this conspiracy to be unmasked and the members of the responsible Penn cabal held in the bright light of truth. Let me show you how it works: 1) Penn spends millions of dollars on a PR campaign and security blitzkrieg to make west Philly safe past 40th st. 2) Students scramble from their tiny hovels in center city to the luxurious spaces of west Philly, enjoying driveways, back yard bbq's and concerts in Clark Park. 3) Landlords, drunk with power, raise rents 300% over a period of six years, using this windfall to buy more property and renovate existing spaces into bacchanalian bourgeoisie paradises. 4) There is a veritable windfall for those who install recessed lighting and under-floor heating. 5) Penn unleashes their secret pincer movement -- they open up a 400 bed hi-rise dorm on campus, located immediately adjacent to quietly installed amenities such as a used book store, used record store, ritzy theater, mid range Mexican restaurants and grocery store. 6) Penn hires goons to cause a well publicized mini crime wave on the edge of campus. 7) Penn opens the new dorms advertising stop paying those inflated UC rents, get rid of your car and walk to everything! 43% safer than west of 40th! 8) A sudden mass exodus of Penn students from the carefully renovated apartments of West Philly creates a property vacuum. 9) Unable to pay their mortgages as rents in the hood plummet back to 1997 rates, landlords begin to default on their loans. The whole house of cards begins to unravel. 10) Penn buys up the defaulted properties at pennies on the dollar, driving landlords and real-estate speculators from west Philly like whipped dogs and cementing their hold on 72% of all residential properties in the area, now with recessed lighting and under- floor heating. 11) Penn spends millions of dollars on a PR campaign and security blitzkrieg to make west Philly safe past 40th st.. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Re: Spruce Hill Community Association Notices Snow Reminders
Bruce, Who are you, the snow-shoveling police?! Mario Giorno On 2/14/07, B Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More on the snow ... On 2/14/07, Richard Guffanti #30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A reminder on the snow from the SHCA Safety Committee *Sidewalks: Dangerous or Unshoveled* Sidewalk and curb maintenance, by city ordinance, is the responsibility of the property owner. The property owner, agent or tenant, as the owner may determine, is responsible for removing snow from the sidewalk at the end of a snowstorm. The regulations require that there should be a path cleared of not less than 30 inches in width, on the sidewalk, abutting the property. As a courtesy to your neighbors and other pedestrians, provide as wide a path as possible, and cut out handicap ramps and inlets. If others have dangerous and unshoveled sidewalks, call the Department of License and Inspections Services and Operations Unit, (215) 686-3140 or use the LI Online Service and Complaint System. *Plowing and Salting* Call the Streets Department's Customer Affairs Unit at 215-686-5560javascript:void(0) , or dial (star) *FIX on your cellular phone (a free cellular call) to request that your street be plowed or salted following a snow or ice storm. The representative will route your request to the appropriate Highway district for service. Our friends at UC Green ask that you minimize the use of salt whenever possible as it damages urban trees and the water table.
Re: [UC] HELLO!!! ALL YOU GENTRIFIED PEOPLE!! SHOVEL YOUR FREAKING WALKS!
Bruce, What happened? Have there been multiple deaths and injuries by slipping on snow and ice today? Mario Giorno 36 S. 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19139 On 2/13/07, B Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found this old message. thought it was relevant. On 12/9/05, B Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Snow* Snow from the sidewalk must be removed by the property owner, agent or tenant, as the owner may determine, by city ordinance, at the end of a snowstorm. Un-shoveled Sidewalks and Street Snow Plowing: 215-686-5560 http://www.phillyblog.com/philly/showthread.php?p=173841#post173841 On 12/9/05, Turner,Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you're unable to do the right thing due to physical or time constraints, I know that there are a number of teenagers with shovels making their rounds of the neighborhood today. Do two good deeds at once -- give your neighbors a safe sidewalk, and give a kid a chance to earn some holiday spending money! Kathleen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Coyle Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10 javascript:void(0):46 AM To: Kyle Cassidy Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] HELLO!!! ALL YOU GENTRIFIED PEOPLE!! SHOVEL YOUR FREAKING WALKS! I couldn't agree more. My neighborhood is terrible about shoveling. Not everyone has the same mobility, it's horribly selfish to not shovel in a timely manner. DO the right thing people! :P Kyle Cassidy wrote: You can see a thin patch of grey here, which is _my_ shoveled walk and then the unshoveled walks of my absentee landlord neighbors quarter million dollar homes. I used to shovel the vacant lot's walk too, but now that it's been bought, I figure it's the owners responsiblity. The guy at the far end of the street owns four or five properties on the block (he doesn't live in any of them), he's always been really good, practically religious, about shoveling in the past, I assume he's just off to a later start than usual, but he's usually out there with a crew of helpers at 5:00. But then it's just him and me. I'm gauging the progress of my street by how many people shovel their walks. And by how many gunshots I'm not hearing. And by the number of beer bottles left in my yard. And by the number of empty Hugs containers left in my yard. And, of course, the chicken bones. I should make a neighborhood index.. I'll be watching out my window for the rest of my miscreant neighbors to start shoveling. http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/shovel.jpg
Re: [UC] YOUR Dope and Where It Comes From - and what itmight do?
Mike, What is angel dust/pcp anyway? What is it made of? On 2/2/07, Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On PCP-laced mary jane. - Mike V. -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *B Andersen *Sent:* Friday, February 02, 2007 4:31 PM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* univcity@list.purple.com *Subject:* Re: [UC] YOUR Dope and Where It Comes From - and what itmight do? There are too many illegal dogs On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/2/2007 3:32:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *may all your dope be laced with PCP.* I hope Rosso said this in a momentary burst of anger. It is heinous in its fury. Rosso finally posts something truly salient and you go after his verbiage and intent? May all your dope be touched with Angel Dust. Is that New Age foo-foo enough? Unfortunately, that Suburbanite Loser Andy Reid was not paying attention to his own kids as one of them started chasing the Dragon http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/16602317.htm and another threatening to shoot the neighbors http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/16603995.htm. How embarrassing to find out White suburban kids are acting badly, too. There goes the membership application to Merion Cricket Club http://www.merioncricket.com/. Thus another opportunity for gun grabbing Professor Lawrence Sherman, director of the Jerry Lee Center of Criminology at the University of Pennsylvania http://www.crim.upenn.edu/aec/mccord_award.htm http://www.crim.upenn.edu/aec/mccord_award.htm to rail about Pennsylvania legislators being the blame for a large share of the homicide rate in Philadelphia, and now its gonna get your suburban kids too. So, why don't we hold a plebiscite: (a) open up the borders to illegal aliens or (b) open up the borders to now legalized drugs? Thanks for your time. I'll let you guys get back to Montel http://www.montelshow.com/ You need your lighter. I think your bong went out. Ciao, Craig
[UC] Fwd: [recyclenowwestphilly] Recycle NOW Leadership Forum, scheduled for Thursday February 1st, 2007, 7PM to 9PM
-- Forwarded message -- From: Maurice M. Sampson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jan 22, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: [recyclenowwestphilly] Recycle NOW Leadership Forum, scheduled for Thursday February 1st, 2007, 7PM to 9PM To: Terry LaBov [EMAIL PROTECTED], Al Airone [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED], Amy Rivera [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carolyn Auwaerter [EMAIL PROTECTED], Geoffrey Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hank Sammon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Helen Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jill Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karen Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kathy Detwiler [EMAIL PROTECTED], Liz Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED], Liz Giblin [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Brakeman [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marlene G. Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED], Megan Wellington [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], RNP LowerNW2 [EMAIL PROTECTED], RNP Upper NW Chapter [EMAIL PROTECTED], RNP West Philly Chapter [EMAIL PROTECTED], RNPsteering [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** FORWARD THE FOLLOWING TO ALL INTERESTED PARTIES My Friends, *I am writing to invite you to attend the Recycle NOW Leadership Forum, scheduled for Thursday February 1st, 2007, on the Penn Campus' Left Bank, 3160 Chestnut Street, Facilities Real Estate Offices - Conference RM1, 7PM to 9PM*. * Please RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are incredibly well prepared for the opportunities in our immediate future. Most notably, we have a hearing on Recycling in City Council Chambers on February 22, 1pm. We need YOU to make it happen. The purpose of the Leadership Forum is to make final preparations to ensure we make our point loud and clear. We'll convene community, civic and student leaders from neighborhoods from all over the City to report on our progress over the last year and strategy over the next four months to elect a Mayor who will give us the recycling program Philadelphia deserves. Among the items we will hear presentations concerning 1. RNP chapters, petition campaign and civic endorsements 2. Report on the Street's Department's plans for Single Stream, RecycleBank and the Philadelphia Recycling Partnership 3. Details of the Next Great City Mayors Forum (2/15, Atwater Kent Museum) which will focus on Philadelphia's health and environmental issues including Recycling 4. Feed back on Mayor's Forums held to date, strategy and plans to attend every Forum to come 5. Strategy for the long-awaited Recycling Hearings before City Council, February 22, 1pm, City Council Chambers. We need to bring hundreds of people! The overall strategy is simple: On May 17th Philadelphian's will select the Mayoral and City Council candidates to compete in the General Elections to be held in November. At every opportunity we will appear each time a new face to press the candidates to commit, re-commit and dagnabit to commit again and again all over the City that when elected they will move to develop an incentive based recycling program that collects all materials including cardboard and plastic every week in every neighborhood. WE NEED YOUR HELP TO COVER YOUR SECTION OF THE CITY. Make plans to joins us. * Left Bankon the Penn Campus, 3160 Chestnut Street, Facilities Real Estate Offices - Conference Rm 1, 7PM to 9PM*. —RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See Directions below I look forward to seeing you. Maurice Sampson, Chair Recycle NOW Philadelphia *DIRECTIONS:* The* *Left* *Bank on the Penn Campus, is located at 3160 Chestnut Street, Facilities Real Estate Offices, between 32nd 31stStreet. Enter the building through the glass doors at the far side of the parking lot. This location is a two block walk from 30th Street Station, (South on 30thStreet to Chestnut) and you can also get there from Walnut Street, take the elevator down at 3133 Walnut Street. Driving? Exit to 30th Street from the Schuylkill Expressway, West on Market Street to 34th Street, south to Chestnut Street, turn left. Lost? Call Maurice's cell: 267 269 6912 javascript:void(0) or my contact there, Dan Garofalo, (215) 746-6429 javascript:void(0). See the following link for a diagram of the location http://www.facilities.upenn.edu/mapsBldgs/view_map.php3?id=425 Niche Waste Reduction and Recycling Systems, Inc PO Box 25246 Philadelphia, PA 19119-2508 javascript:void(0) 215 843 2138 javascript:void(0) msampson @netreach.net __._,_.___ Messages in this topic http://groups.yahoo.com/group/recyclenowwestphilly/message/88;_ylc=X3oDMTMxYnQ1aDBuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4MTE0MDM0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDM3NgRtc2dJZAM4OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzExNjk0OTM1MTgEdHBjSWQDODg-( 1) Reply (via web post) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/recyclenowwestphilly/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJva2w5bTJuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4MTE0MDM0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDM3NgRtc2dJZAM4OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzExNjk0OTM1MTg-?act=replymessageNum=88| Start a new topic
Re: [UC] attempted robbery at 48th and Warrington
Jimmi, I'm sorry were neglected like that last night. The moral apathy and fear in the general public is often one of the main reason that a large amount of crimes committed against persons and property go unsolved and the criminals that perpetrate them go unpunished. The fact is that the the average person doesn't want to get involved in an emergency or crime situation, because they either fear that getting involved means that they themselves will get hurt or blamed in some cases for wrong-doing, even when they were just trying to help. That leads us to moral apathy, or just simply not carry and ignoring the situation. People in the modern world lead very separate lives both physically and psychologically. We often go out of our way to ensure our privacy and not bump into people. We choose the sphere of humanity that we wish to interact with and ignore all others - even in dire situations where life may be on the line. We have gated communities and security systems in our homes to keep the bad guys at a distance. Unfortunately we also keep many of our neighbors and the members of our communities at arms distance as well. It's a shame, because by simply introducing yourself to your neighbors and becoming friends with the people you physically live next to you almost immediately create a sense of community that makes people want to help each other and come to their aid. It's when we remain distant from our neighbors that we create the opposite effect, moral apathy. Suggested reading or viewing: The movies Crash, The Incident, and Grand Canyon, and the short story The Whimper of Whipped Dogs. Mario Giorno 36 S. 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19139 On 1/16/07, SKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is possible that someone reported your noises, but since it was Saturday night around 11p, there may have been so many other crimes going on that a report of noise just didn't make the heirarchy of response. Noise being reported can't compete with attempted murder or armed robbery. I can't speak for anyone except myself, but I can tell you that when I hear a loud noise of any kind that sounds questionable, I call 911 to report it. It is a mystery to me why people don't automatically call 911 at the first sound of anything that doesn't sound quite right. Incidentally, I live near 47th on Windsor so I would not have heard your cries. *What happened to you is terrifying indeed because it could have happened to any of us. * Sande Knight - Original Message - *From:* Jimmi Badger [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* univcity@list.purple.com *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2007 11 javascript:void(0):52 PM *Subject:* [UC] attempted robbery at 48th and Warrington Around 11pm this past Saturday evening on the 4800 block of Warrington Ave, a friend and i were targets of an attempted robbery. No one was injured, and nothing was taken; we're fine. I'm still mad, though. The other night, i was yelling as loudly and as foully as i know how in the middle of a quiet residential street. No extra lights came on. No one opened a door or a window to see what the fuss was about. As far as i can tell, no one called 911 to report the fight in the street. The aggressor finally ran off as a car turned onto the street. I walked up to that car, waving my arms and gesturing for the driver to stop. The tires rolled by inches from my boots. The car barely slowed down. The driver didn't even turn to look at me. Maybe if it had, the police could have been out fast enough to catch the stupid jerk. By the time we reached a safe house and made the call, the would-be robber had also found a safe place. That person is still out there (i'm not posting a description because it matches how many thousand people in this city and won't help you any more than it did Southwest Detectives) looking for the next mark. That person is still out there because someone refused to even look at a couple of scared kids in the street, because a whole block full of people didn't go see what was happening. I know you all have plenty of kvetching to do about free range doggies and local real estate Realtors (tm) and little green men and McPenntrification-Friends of Clark Park-Illuminati conspiracy theories, so i'll let you carry on. Just keep an eye on the real world, too. -- Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=36035/*http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/
Re: [UC] PM-302.3 Weeds
Folks, This weed citation is foolish. There's no across the board method for citing such a thing in a way that couldn't be grotesquely abused by the people making the complaints. There must be hundreds of residences with at least one weed that may be in excess of 10 inches at any given time in this city. It's one thing to want to keep Philadelphia looking clean and orderly, it's another to pelt people with these poorly regulated statutes that aren't properly and equitably enforced by the city government. Unless the city appoints landscaping police, it's foolish to think that you're at the mercy of a disgruntled neighbor who has an abusive green thumb under which we are all are pinned. 2 cents Mario Giorno On 4/13/05, Dubin, Elisabeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be calling the police on J. Cass, who has an illegal sod farm in his backyard. It's a scandal. ELISABETH DUBIN Hillier ARCHITECTURE One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F 215 636-9989 | hillier.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cass Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: univcity@list.purple.com Subject: RE: [UC] PM-302.3 Weeds It is good to see that the City is finally cracking down on all you lay-abouts. Good god -- most UC homeowners only have about 400 square feet of property not covered by the dwelling -- is it really that difficult to maintain it properly? It reminds me of Kyle's lame excuse for why he hasn't taken any steps to landscape the vacant lot next to his manse. (Remember that one -- Janie Blackwell said I couldn't do it!!). The PIC plants sale is coming up at the end of the month-- I suggest that you all get on over there, purchase some plants, and do some landscaping at your weed-choked hovels. Remember, the crazy old lady next door will be watching. Jonathan A. Cass -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: univcity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] PM-302.3 Weeds Yeah right. Decorative grass. Heh. Heard that one before. What are you raising there, Widyono, Panama Red? Hmm? Little BC Bud? Some decorative Colombian mixed in with the trailing arbutus, and the wisterias, and the travelling bamboos? Ross Bender http://rossbender.org In a message dated 4/12/2005 5:03:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got slapped with this, some decorative grass in the front lawn apparently was not liked by a neighbor (who still hasn't come clean to let me know it was them who contacted the police to complain, without ever complaining to me first). *I* got the ticket FOUR MONTHS after it was written up. The timestamp on the envelope proves it. No deal, they wanted their money. I wasn't about to fight all the way to a judge, I'd wasted enough time trying to reason with the Finance department (a.k.a. Collection Agency). You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] My jerk neighbors
Kyle, For the love of God, man, just keep them in the back yard or in the garage until trash day. If they get stolen on trash day, I don't know what to tell you. Keep putting your address on them. At least if they're dumb enough to steal garbage buckets or cans, they'll have to wait til trash day and suffer your address. You could also not leave them out at all and just toss the garbage/trash bags on the sidewalk. That's what I do. The only container that I put out is my blue recycling container. It hasn't been stolen yet; knock on wood. Mario ;-P On Apr 8, 2005 5:46 PM, Susan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scrunch the Cat could use a new litterbox. Ya got a trash can that could double as a poo receptacle? Original message Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:26:38 -0400 From: J. Matthew Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [UC] My jerk neighbors To: 'Tancredi, Sue M.' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Kyle Cassidy' [EMAIL PROTECTED], UnivCity@list.purple.com Dear Neighbors: There seems to be a big problem in our neighborhood regarding trash cans being stolen. In an effort to assist my neighbors, I am announcing that I am starting a business venture in selling used trash cans in our neighborhood. No longer will you have to drive all the way to Home Depot or other establishments and waste your money no new trash cans. I have accumulated a large and diverse supply of used ones, some of which already have addresses written on them. If you are lucky enough to have an address that is in our current inventory, we can also save you the time and trouble of personalizing your own. I also offer a discount on used trash cans that are emblazoned with an address other than yours. If we do not have the sort of trash can you are looking for, it does not normally take more than a few days to add one to our inventory that conforms to your specific needs. I am looking forward to working with you to help make our neighborhood a cleaner, neater place. Sincerely, Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tancredi, Sue M. Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:11 PM To: Kyle Cassidy; UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: RE: [UC] My jerk neighbors we have trash cans (with our address all over them) stolen ALL THE TIME! my husband keeps buying these smaller trash cans for his shop, and they get stolen as soon as he puts them out. in fact, two weeks ago, someone dumped the trash out of the small one and stole it. and it had only been sitting outside a few hours. those small ones are hot. and then, after that they took the garbage, on the same day, someone stole the big ones. we are moving to VT and my husband says he can't wait to see the reaction when he tells people there that our garbage cans were constantly stolen in philly. i hated guillanni, but this is what he meant when he talked about all those small quality of life crimes that adversely impact life in the city. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kyle Cassidy Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:50 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: [UC] My jerk neighbors So ... You may remember that last month someone swiped the last of my trash cans -- emblazoned with my address. It had been taken a couple times before and I'd always found it in front of some neighbors house, stuffed with trash six days before trash day, but last month it seems to have gone far enough from home it couldn't find it's way back. Anyway, I went down to home depot and got two more. I was keeping these inside until trash day but the smell and the inconvenience, you know ... Anyway, I left them out by the side of the house on Tuesday and sure enough, one of them's was carted off last night. Am I the only one this happens to?? Foolishly, I hadn't had time to paint my address on these. So I guess you could try and say it was my own fault. Gah. winmail.dat (8k bytes) Susan Jacobson Assistant Professor Dept. of Broadcasting Telecom Temple University http://countlessstories.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC]Petition to Save Y100
Folks, I have to back up Michael's cynicism about this petition. This is a commercial radio frequency that has played Top 40/MOR programming for years. In the electronic broadcasting industry Y100 was what is known as a package. When a radio station's programming is packaged by an outsourced company that handles all of the song aggregation and blanket licensing with ASCAP and BMI, little or no thought is put into changing the content of the archive of songs being played on the station. And Y100 isn't some special case or exception to the regular everday methods of commercial radio programming, it's the epitome of such prepackaged content. So long as station owners keep buying the packaging, you're never going to get different or alternative choices of music, just a gray middleground of music content preselected by record labels, music agents and licensing brokers. It's the least common denomonator of music that the largest demographic of listeners will tune in to hear. God bless you for wanting your radio station back and having the will to fight for it, but it's a losing battle and I'm kind of glad it's a loosing battle. My philosophy is that we don't need Y100 brought back, we need a classical music station to fill the dial. We need more talk and news programming on the FM band, instead of having it all banished to the lower power AM band. We need a radio station that plays more unknown artists that don't have expensive agents and record labels helping them push their songs with thousands or even millions of marketing dollars. That means crusading to get rid of the packaged programming and any station owner who will play it. We need to convince the FCC that the radio and TV frequencies still belong to the public and we should have more say in directing or choosing the kind of content we want. You can also neglect my argument too, and look toward the web and wireless communication. Everyday the web makes my argument and yours more irrelevant. Web radio stations are playing for more diverse sond choices that any region's FM and AM radio. Satellite radio (Sirius http://www.sirius.com and XM http://www.xmradio.com for now, who's know if more satellite stations will come onboard) offer for pay content, but with much more diversity that terrestrial radio. Go to their websites and see for yourself. They keep adding more and more content every month they exist. Nowadays, even your cellphone or PDA can act as your new age digital radio with all of this content coming to you live through a tiny earpiece. My advice to you is that that Battle of Y100 is a losing gambit. you won't teach the radio station or the content packagers any new lesson. They're doing what they're supposed to be doing from a business standpoint. If they break an FCC reg, then the FCC will come down on them. If you really want to teach the folks who run 100.3 FM a lesson, you stop listening to the old radio altogether and get your music from the new outlets, who do care a great deal more about providing consumers with more choices of media and entertainment. $0.02 Mario Giorno On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:12:56 -0500, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a 2.1KB message. i replied .. A great radio station recently got taken off the air by clearchannel inc. (hereafter to be reffered to as THE MAN). That station was the esteemed, world renowned, award winning Y100fm. They provided a great mix of both national and local bands. They gave Philadelphia witty banter instead of the usual shock jock nonsense shoved down our throats by other stations. Perhaps most importantly they gave God please. Y100 _sucked_ . If you recall correctly, y100 started on 103.9 and moved to 100.3 in the same mechanism, so it shouldnt surprise you that the owners of those two channels would pull the same trick again. If you really want good radio, direct your energies to a worthwhile cause and visit our west philly friends at http://prometheusradio.org, who do a lot of work fighting clear channel and wrangling with the FCC locally. $0.02, _Michael. -- .. Michael Jastremski .. Network Systems Engineer .. .. www.oldtimeynerd.net ... .. www.openphoto.net ... You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC]Petition to Save Y100
Michael aka [EMAIL PROTECTED], My response to your post about the Save Y100 petition was not meant to be derogatory, nor did I mean you any disrespect. I want to set the record straight with you and everyone else on this listserve. I wrote what I wrote to accomplish 2 things. The first was to give you my *opinion* about the current state of broadcast programming and the issue of consumer choice of mass media content, specifically electronic media ie music, radio shows, tv shows, etc. The second thing I wanted to do was put out important information about the reality of commercial broadcasting. Don't let what some of the other members of this listserve turn my words into canon fodder. I've made no judgements about who you are or what is on your mind. It's not for me to say. My true intention was to show you that there may be less futile and time-consuming ways of getting what it is that Y100 gave you before. Legally, demanding that Y100's owners give you the music you wanted is like asking Ford to make more 2001 Mustangs after that specific model is no longer being made. You can't get the folks at Y100 to bring your content back, because it's more than likely not there anymore. The times change music programming and there's no going back on the decisions made by the packagers and station managers to change format. If music shifts, if the public's desire for specific types or genres of music shifts demographically, then the programming eventually changes. It's a stupid, antiquated system of programming content, I agree. I'm on your side. Craig and Mark are two contrarians who have nothing better to do than tear down everyone else's thoughts, ideas and feelings. They do represent how I truly feel about this issue. I can't stress this highly enough. The only reason I ever send a post to this listserve is if I truly have something relevant (or perhaps comical) to share with the group in discussing whatever the issue du jour may be. In this case I happen to know a few things about radio, TV and film production, marketing, licensing and in general communication law. Comm major, BA Radio/TV/Film Production; Rowan University 1994. I also work as a communications research techician/web developer at the Annenberg School for Communication at UPenn. Viva la digital revolucion!!! Mario Giorno You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Good News for my Neighbors at 4300 Larchwood
Thank you. On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 14:14:06 -0500, Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to get my house repainted this year, Does anyone have Chris Neff's phone number? You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Tone of List
Marlene, I second that emotion. Mario Giorno On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:40:17 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to let you know, I've gotten a lot of emails over the past few months from people who (like myself) are reluctant to post to this list because some of the just dowright rude comments certain posts have engendered. This is really too bad, because it means that we are missing out on informative/interesting/humorous commentary relevant to our neighborhood. I honestly think, that while some of exchanges are amusing, little in-jokes and repartees, are not really appropriate to this list - would be more appropriate to personal email. I have hear my view of this stated numerous times in numerous ways, by other posters. Hopefully, in time this will change. It is not about censorship or limiting free speech, it is about common courtesy. Marlene Levy You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Age on the UC List -- A Demographic Survey
Title: Message Mario Giorno member for about 1.5 years. Lived in West Philly about 4 all toll. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S. Sharrieff AliSent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 6:07 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; univcity@list.purple.comSubject: RE: [UC] Age on the UC List -- A Demographic Survey SALI..age 45..years in WP 30 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 2:06 PMTo: univcity@list.purple.comSubject: [UC] Age on the UC List -- A Demographic Survey Have you ever wondered how old the people on this list are? Having only met a few, my guess is that the mean age is fairly high, possibly 45 - 50. In the spirit of scientific research, how about if everybody sends a message to the list listing their true age and perhaps number of years resident in Philadelphia (or elsewhere, if from elsewhere, eg Narberth.) I'd be happy to tally the results and post them on the UC Stats page. http://rossbender.org/ucstats.html Of course I'll go first. True age -- 53. Years in West Philly -- 19 1/2 Ross Bender http://rosslynnbender.org
RE: [UC] Dang! I need new home insurance
Title: Message Kyle, There's Lenny Torrance, a Nationwide rep, on Pine between 47th and 48th Streets. His office is on the ground floor of the Garden Court Plaza apartment building. He was the insurance agant who taughtmy Penn employee workshop on understanding and acquiring insurance. Mario -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle CassidySent: Friday, January 28, 2005 3:40 PMTo: UnivCity@list.purple.comSubject: [UC] Dang! I need new home insurance My home insurance cancelled on me a year and a half ago because they discovered I lived next to "an abandoned property" woooah. Anyway, they cancelled and my mortgage company picked up the insurance, but I'm sure they're not giving me the best rate. Someone give me a name -- [and because craig will write back with an email that just says "rumplestiltskin" I have to add:] "the name of a nice friendly insurance company in the hizzle." Thanks, Kc
[UC] FoCP, the Dog Walk, Etc...
Title: Message Folks, Remember the old American Express motto: "Membership has its privileges." You need to draw a distinct line between the separate and possibly exclusive rights of membership in the FoCP and just being a UC citizen. As far as I or any lay person off the street can tell, those dues are like an annual donation, because on the surface there really isn't any inherent political or economic authority or power vested in FoCP. The city gov't. and the Dept of Recreation can stop every effort that's been proposed. Of course, we also know they're probably not going to stop any positive development FoCP comes up with, because it means FoCP provides money and manpower that the city doesn't want to invest in Clark Park to help build community. All people in the community need a say and thats why FoCP has been able toput onthe events and activities that they'vesponsored in the past. With the dog walk proposal, we're entering into the area of non-profit finacing of public works. That means the FoCP creates a budget; as they've already begun doing, allocates who will perform the physical labor of the dog walk, applies for funds from City Hall (hee hee hee hee...) and develops new and different ways of performing fundraising for the park. If the worry that I see in your messages is over who pays, who leads and who benefits, then I think that FoCP has not yet grown some much needed teeth. I'm not a bona fide member of FoCP, but I'll defend it's purpose for main reason: Without FoCP the city takes over and that not only means nothing will get done, but the park would more than likely retograde. It's easy to attack FoCP because you disagree with them on how to take care of the park or how much "say"it's board feels it has. They spend all of there time helping to both listen to the community and organize activities for the betterment of the park. Unfortunately, what comes back to them are complaints, ingratitude and ill-informed negativity. for once I would like to find a member of this community that gives them one ounce of respect or consideration for having the unpleasant job of the being the middleman between the Philadelphia Dept. of Recreation and the citizenry of University City and the neighbors of Clark Park. They're given neither the necessary resources to make quick change, nor are they given one small bit of authority from the city to move on plans for the park, yet somehow they make small changes occur. Frankly, I'm suprised they've accomplished anything at all with the whining, busy-body, complainers on this list and in the hood bringing them down every two seconds for the pettiest of reasons. They have announced meeting and a website for the public to view for general info and input. They use this very listserve to hold discussions and share information. They are accessible and continue to find more ways of discovering what they people in the community want. It would be nice if the community gave as many solutions as they do complaints. I encourage the board members to answer the complaints with as many solutions as you can find. I know it's a challenge to perfom fundraising activities and that volunteers are a little too scarce. I feel that you do have a right to make final decisions on Clark Park's development. If not you, then who? Surely not the naysayers. With friends like that Clark Park surely doesn'tneed enemies. In this case it's just impossible to please or appeal to all people all of the time, so stick to your guns and stop taking the abuse. There will always be something to disagree with, just encourage people to compromise a little and let them know that you have a broad vision for the park that will be as universally acceptable as is humanly possible. My two cents, Mario :-) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 6:53 PMCc: univcity@list.purple.comSubject: Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run UpdateI agree with Brian, everyone should be members of the FOCP. In a message dated 1/25/05 6:45:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: L a s e r B e a m wrote: hi, I think the process between community members and their elected representatives is a real important process, too. and it seems to me that if you were really REALLY interested in process, and in community members, you would becirculating two petitions, one for a dog run, and one against.What bothered me about the petition was that it put the onus on the FOCPto build a dog park-- no real debate, no consideration of the cost, oranything. It was "FOCP, build the dog park." That's not a process.Let's address Ray's comments about "process." I'm wondering why he seesmembership in the FOCP to be such an impediment to community discussion.One could use his own logic above, and say that if
RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity
Title: RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity Susan, Before I log off today, welcome to the UC listserve,Susan. It's been nice seeing you chime in. Mario -Original Message- From: Susan Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 4:29 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity Funny how all of the really violent crime (robbery/assault/homocide) occurs in MY neighborhood (18th District), and the less-violent occurs in the area right around Penn (17th District). There was even an aggravated assault listed at my address in December! sj Susan Jacobson Assistant Professor Dept. of Broadcasting Telecom Temple University http://countlessstories.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity
Title: Message wow, Kyle, you rule. Thanks for sniffing this out and thank you, John, for the proactive movement. Mario -Original Message-From: Kyle Cassidy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 4:11 PMTo: 'John Ellingsworth'; Jonathan CassCc: univcity@list.purple.comSubject: RE: [UC] Crime in West Philly/Ucity http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/crimes-index.html Funny how what we'd seen as "man robbed and then shot in the face" is only reported by the almanac as "robbery". I don't know whether there's an epidemic of purse snatchings or shootings. Thanks, john, for your efforts to get better crime reporting. Kyle
RE: [UC] Turn Your Back on Bush
Title: RE: [UC] Turn Your Back on Bush Folks, I was made aware by an old friend and lover of history that certainly since the Revloutionary War, the U.S. has never stopped participating in some form of war at home or abroad. We exist in a state of perpetual war, because we seemingly either don't know how to effectively avoid them or we depend on them to gain much needed resources, be it self rule, the elimination of taxation, land, waterways, control of regional commerce, gold, slaves, etc. We are a war nation like no other in the modern world. We don't have war downtime, because it's become such a magnificent political/economic growth stimulator - at least through most of our history; the War of 1812, the Civil War, Vietnam and now Iraq have proven to be a drain on the national economy, military population, and national morale as well as tauting defeated causes. If we turn our backs on the president, we should all be aware that it's classically considered to be the ultimate symbolic gesture of no-confidence. It means we, in spirit if not in any physical sense, shun the man himself and cast him out. I can see why this would be a useful gesture to give toward the president and his policies; it's non-violent, it's universally understood, and it makes a great news image, if ENOUGH people join in. I for one would approve such an effort, but that's only my opinion. What is needed is a big push that will carry enough dissenters to D.C. to protest. Go to http://www.turnyourbackonbush.org and see for yourself how you can get to the capital cheaply and easily and spend the day giving your First Amendment rights some good use. Mario Giorno Communications Research Technician ASC/APPC University of Pennsylvania 3620 Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104
RE: [UC] not just any old bowling alley...
Title: RE: [UC] not just any old bowling alley... Brian, Little Paris Hilton's. I like that. It sort of drips off the tongue like Wile E. Coyote, Spergenius. Muffy G. Vanderbilt, Little Paris Hilton. Yes. Mario ;-) -Original Message- From: Brian Siano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:05 PM Cc: university City List Subject: Re: [UC] not just any old bowling alley... Stephen Fisher wrote: There's a wonderful quote by a Penn Student which definitely sums up much of the ignorance about the area. I didn't realize we were all thugs and bums. I wonder if this is the same (Wharton) student that kicked the female protester at the RNC STUPIDEST IDEA EVER. This bowling venue is a terrible idea. Like Copa, it will attract the worst crowd. The noise will keep residents of beige block up late at night, and hurt property values in the area. What about all the wonderful west philly residents that Strikes will attract? Aren't we supposed to be keeping thugs and bums off of penn's campus? Opening a BOWLING ALLEY, of all wonderful things, is not going to do it! Maureen Rush, please shut this place down and keep your students safe! I, for one, would like to start a tradition of calling Penn students little Paris Hiltons. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Some @#$@ stole my trash can.
Title: Message Kyle, Hide your new trash can in the garage.Set up a hidden webcam in the garage. We can set up a nertwork of shared UC security webcams. We can monitor everyone's home for a fee. Think of it, man!! Garage cams, kitty/doggy cams, kitchen cams, living room cams!! Hey, we could put a new wireless webcam in the trash can and find out where the culprit takes the purloined recepticles. Granted it's a waste of a perfectly good webcam, but hey, if it thwarts the @%#@*#%$ that stole your trash can, sending him or herto jail, and ruining his or her miserable life as theyexperience the hellish, mind-shattering torture of incarceration seeing images of a life unrealized in their dreams every night as our tax dollars pay twice the average annual salary of a member of the working public to keep them alive, then isn't it worth every penny? I say "Yes." Got any vegemite left? Who's your vegemite contact in Aussieland? Nnnuh Nnnuh Nnnuh..yummy sour vegetable paste...Nnnuh Nnnuh Nnnuh. Mario -Original Message-From: Kyle Cassidy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:36 PMTo: University City listservSubject: [UC] Some @#$@ stole my trash can. Walking outside today, experiencing the fine air, the lovely morning, I noticed some 97 115 115 104 97 116 (expletive rendered into decimal ascii values so as to only offend the nerdiest amongst you) has absconded with my trash can. If anybody sees it, it's can shaped. With handles. Made of plastic. Next one I get I'm going to paint "I LOVE HANSON" on it in two foot tall pink letters. Grrr!
RE: [UC] Police Response Time--Infuriating!!!
Title: Message
Yeehw!!! Ah'm yer man, cuz!
Yehw!!!
-Original Message-From: Kyle Cassidy
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004
11:56 AMTo: 'Dan Myers'; Heather and Chris Gasda;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [UC] Police Response
Time--Infuriating!!!
I think I'll just hire a bum to sit on my sofa and watch t.v.
with a loaded gun while I'm at work.
kc
-Original Message- From: Dan
Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:40 AM
To: Heather and Chris Gasda; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] Police Response Time--Infuriating!!!
Well, I really didn't think that a 15 minute response time is
considered great to begin with. If it was a break in
and you were home, it could have been a bad situation.
(it's a little far-fetched, but it could happen) My alarm company usually calls within 30 seconds -2 minutes of my loud
alarm going off. It once went off while we were on
vacation in Maine. It scared us the whole time we were
there, but it wound up that we left a door ajar and the wind was opening and closing it...which is why the alarm kept going
off for 3 hours. I felt bad for our neighbors. But the
police came out (or so they said) and checked
everything to be ok. The alarm company even told the police officers to look in the back yard, since it was my back door
alarm that was going off.
Having the police come over after an hour when an alarm goes
off is terrible. Why do we pay those alarm fees every
year if not for a quick response time from the
cops?
Dan Myers 215.901.0899
Certified Massage Practitioner -
Original Message - From: "Heather and Chris Gasda"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Dan Myers"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November
17, 2004 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [UC] Police Response
Time--Infuriating!!!
Chalmers Security--they've been really great so
far.
--- Dan Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What alarm company do
you have?
Dan - Original Message -
From: "Heather and Chris Gasda" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:26 PM Subject: [UC] Police Response Time--Infuriating!!!
Our alarm company called me at 12:04pm to tell me
that 2 of our
detectors had gone off at 11:49am; they
had dispatched the police
immediately. As of now, 1:16pm,
the police still have not shown up at the
house! Having called the police to make
sure everything was ok, I was told they had been dispatched, but had
not come
yet. I told them not to bother, as I had come home and found it
to be a false alarm, but I was told
they had to come once called. Not within
a reasonable
time frame, apparently! What a great use of resources--don't send
them when needed, but send
them late and
unnecessarily. To add insult to injury, I
saw 2 patrol cars idly driving about
during this time. Pleeease tell me this is an abberation!!
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RE: [UC] Oil vs. Gas Heat
Title: RE: [UC] Oil vs. Gas Heat Does anyone on the list know if there is an all-electric heating system for homes? Mario Giorno -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:51 PM To: Naomi Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] Oil vs. Gas Heat I suggest you go to: www.heatinghelp.com and click on the wall where you can post your question. This site is frequented by some very bright heating experts. I have gotten some priceless advice from them re: my old steam system. Wes LaBlanc -- Original message from Naomi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- I am in the process of purchasing a UC house that needs the 50 year-old gas heater replaced. We are considering switching to oil - or some other way to heat that does not rely on a monopoly like PGW - and wanted to solicit opinions. (Has anyone done this recently? Any success or horror stories?) We have a few factors that we are basing our decision on: The Environment - Which has more of an impact? (Our initial thought was that gas was cleaner but I'm guessing that gas and oil come from the same base ingredient and I have no idea what is involved on the back end to turn it into gas.) Are there any other realistic alternatives? Cost - We're not wealthy. And the house needs a lot of additional work right away. Both the conversion/upgrade and the long term use need to be competitively priced. Convenience Ease of use - Is it relatively easy to maintain? When there is a problem, will people actually come to fix it? Any and all opinions appreciated. (And if I missed any big factors, feel free to let me know what I haven't considered yet.) Thanks. Naomi White Dog Cafe 3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 http://www.whitedog.com (215) 386-9224 x105 The Black Cat Gift Shop 3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 http://www.blackcatshop.com You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Electric Heat
Title: Message Clinton, I've seen units that are fastened to walls that kick out both hot and cool air. They seem to have pipe work that goes to a machine outside of a house or building and is actively converting the air. It was referred to as, and forgive my lack of proper jargon, a mini-something-or-other. The convector unit outside the house looked like it was using freon like a window air conditioner and was electric powered. Have you seen or heard of these machines? Mario "Thinking Green" Giorno -Original Message-From: Clinton, J. Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 3:54 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [UC] Electric Heat Or in a slightly more polite way: Yes, you can buy electric resistance heating for your home. Generally you can buy electric baseboard radient heaters very inexpensively. You will, however, find that the cost per kW/h is extremely high when compared with fosil fuels. Electric radient heat is popular in places like southern Florida where it doesn't really get that cold that often and the cost of installing it is much lower than a hot air or hot water system. For us here in Philadelphia, "fugetaboutit". -j. scott clinton -Original Message-From: Jonathan Cass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 3:04 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: SPAM SPAM -- [UC] Electric Heat: A Heating System for the Insane All-electric heating for a home? Have you lost your mind? Jonathan A. Cass Silverman, Bernheim Vogel Two Penn Center Plaza, Suite 910 Philadelphia, PA 19102 Tel: 215-636-4435 Fax: 215-636-3999 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This electronic message contains information from the law firm of Silverman Bernheim Vogel which may be confidential or privileged. This information is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify use immediately by telephone, 215-569-, or by e-mail reply. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mario GiornoSent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:40 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Naomi'Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [UC] Oil vs. Gas Heat Does anyone on the list know if there is an all-electric heating system for homes? Mario Giorno -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:51 PM To: Naomi Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] Oil vs. Gas Heat I suggest you go to: www.heatinghelp.com and click on "the wall" where you can post your question. This site is frequented by some very bright heating experts. I have gotten some priceless advice from them re: my old steam system. Wes LaBlanc -- Original message from Naomi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- I am in the process of purchasing a UC house that needs the 50 year-old gas heater replaced. We are considering switching to oil - or some other way to heat that does not rely on a monopoly like PGW - and wanted to solicit opinions. (Has anyone done this recently? Any success or horror stories?) We have a few factors that we are basing our decision on: The Environment - Which has more of an impact? (Our initial thought was that gas was cleaner but I'm guessing that gas and oil come from the same base ingredient and I have no idea what is involved on the back end to turn it into gas.) Are there any other realistic alternatives? Cost - We're not wealthy. And the house needs a lot of additional work right away. Both the conversion/upgrade and the long term use need to be competitively priced. Convenience Ease of use - Is it relatively easy to maintain? When there is a problem, will people actually come to fix it? Any and all opinions appreciated. (And if I missed any big factors, feel free to let me know what I haven't considered yet.) Thanks. Naomi White Dog Cafe 3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 http://www.whitedog.com (215) 386-9224 x105 The Black Cat Gift Shop 3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 http://www.blackcatshop.com You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Oil vs. Gas Heat
Title: Message Marianne, That's been my usual plan of attack. However, I more interested in finding non-fossil fuel alternatives for generating heat energy. Solar cells and basement batteries are another long-term avenue I'm looking into. I've also found solar-powered attic fans. Another thing the oncoming winter has me thinking of is better insulation such as replacement windows, window shrink-wrap insulation ala Scotch or 3M, better insulation of electrical wall sockets and floor plates, heavy drapes, etc. I think if I were Naomi (Hi, Naomi!!!) I'd just go with the gas heater for now, because it's the cleaner fossil fuel and requires no delvery guy coming over. The smell of oil is a small issue with me, but getting the tank in and out can be a pain in the ass, if you ever want to switch to gas later on. My parents originally had oil heating in their house, when it was built in 1958. They switched over to gas heating in the early 80's but had to leave the tank in the basement, because it was too wide to carry up the stairs and out the door. The only solution was to eventually chop it up. Stay warm everyone. Mario "You're Friendly Neighborhood Mario" Giorno -Original Message-From: Marianne Das [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:07 AMTo: Mario Giorno; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Naomi'Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [UC] Oil vs. Gas Heat All-electric homes are quite common in the suburbs, but they are quite expensive.One solution to cutting the cost of heating is to turn down the thermostat in the house and use an electric space heater in the room or rooms you use most. Marianne Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mario Giorno To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; 'Naomi' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: RE: [UC] Oil vs. Gas Heat Does anyone on the list know if there is an all-electric heating system for homes? Mario Giorno -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:51 PM To: Naomi Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] Oil vs. Gas Heat I suggest you go to: www.heatinghelp.com and click on "the wall" where you can post your question. This site is frequented by some very bright heating experts. I have gotten some priceless advice from them re: my old steam system. Wes LaBlanc -- Original message from Naomi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- I am in the process of purchasing a UC house that needs the 50 year-old gas heater replaced. We are considering switching to oil - or some other way to heat that does not rely on a monopoly like PGW - and wanted to solicit opinions. (Has anyone done this recently? Any success or horror stories?) We have a few factors that we are basing our decision on: The Environment - Which has more of an impact? (Our initial thought was that gas was cleaner but I'm guessing that gas and oil come from the same base ingredient and I have no idea what is involved on the back end to turn it into gas.) Are there any other realistic alternatives? Cost - We're not wealthy. And the house needs a lot of additional work right away. Both the conversion/upgrade and the long term use need to be competitively priced. Convenience Ease of use - Is it relatively easy to maintain? When there is a problem, will people actually come to fix it? Any and all opinions appreciated. (And if I missed any big factors, feel free to let me know what I haven't considered yet.) Thanks. Naomi White Dog Cafe 3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 http://www.whitedog.com (215) 386-9224 x105 The Black Cat Gift Shop 3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 http://www.blackcatshop.com You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Request for contractors for carpet, tile, laminate floor ing
Title: Message Melanie, I almost used a guy in Jenkintown to do some hardwood work, but he does everything. His name is Roberto and as soon as I find his business card, I get you his number. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:24 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [UC] Request for contractors for carpet, tile, laminate flooringI'm posting this question for a friend -- she just had a contractor back out and needs suggestions for competent individuals or companies who could do the following work at her new co op at 21st Walnut. Please reply to me so that I can forward your suggestions to her: Carpet aliving/dining area and bedroom - luxurious feel, easy to clean. Would also consider laminate such as Pergo. Also would like kitchen and bathroom to be tiled/laminated over the existing flooring - currently white vinyl blocks and crappy tiny tiles, respectively. Also need to spread out payments.Thanks, Melani Lamond
RE: [UC] Dear Adeline
Title: Message Y'All, On a peripheral not I'm taking on some side work doing some "OUTSOURCED" male domestic duties. Ladies of UC, you can contact me at 1-888-MR-RIGHT. I'm in with the hip and trendy connubial outsourcing market. Mario "The Ladies Home Companion" Giorno "Roaarr -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:10 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [UC] Dear Adeline Dear Adeline: I've just moved into my DARLING charming and elegant old fixer-upper in UC Village (of course it's in the Catchment Basin for the new Judy Rodin School of Disembodied Poetics) and it is simply GORGEOUS! Only one problemo -- the kitchen and bathroom floors simply WON'T DO!! I mean, they've got those stinkywhite vinyl blocks and crappy tiny tiles -- you know the kind that I mean? So like positively RETRO! I mean, we're talking SO twenty seconds ago, know what I mean? What do YOU advise? Also, while we were moving in my boyfriend got mugged RIGHT ON THE FRONT STEPS!! I mean, I thought this was a nice SAFE neighborhood!! Of course I got a description of the PERP and I cellphoned it to Mommy RIGHT AWAY! The guy was of course a big scary black fellow, about 6 feet9 inches tall, really dark complexion, thick lips, scars all over his body, wearing this creepy gray hoody kinda thing. OH, and I jotted down a DISTINGUISHING MARK -- he had these big white buck teeth and in the middle of the left front incisor he had this HOLE chiseled out in the shape of a HEART! And he kinda lisped. And he said his name was Frank. So hopefully the police can put away this evildoer PRETTY SOON. I hope! Or we might have to consider moving back to Narberth. I mean, jeez, our real estate agent told us this was a SAFE neighborhood. FINALLY, the old bathtub has about sixteen legs, a layer of thick green moss all over it, and big scary hairs growing out of the bunghole. OF COURSE the first thing I thought was like this has SO got to be replaced, but then my boyfriend was flipping through the recent issue of Urban Homes and Gardens and he saw where these Yuppies in Detroit had their old 16-legger refinished and they redid the whole bathroom in sort of New Age/Art Deco style and won the Suburban Plastic Cheese award, so can you give me any advice? ALSO, my hind end is getting sorta saggy, I mean I AM almost 30 years old now, so I was wondering is there a good Nip 'n Tuck place in the Hood? Of course I make an annual trip to Singapore for you know like augmentations and such, but for say a monthly toneup I'd like to use some local craftsman. Do you know any good pizza places that deliver? And where we can get the Beemer serviced? And speaking of servicing, can you tell me (just between us girls) whereel boyfriendocan get a nice BLOW JOB? I mean, you know how men are these days, and I really find that kind of stuff kinda DISTASTEFUL, know what I mean? Plus Arthur always wants me to swallow, and I'm like YECCH, gag me with a spoon. So I was reading in COSMO that nowadays young wives are like "OUTSOURCING" these unpleasant domestic duties and I figured in a hip and trendy neighborhood like UC Village there MUST be a service. Guess that's about all I can think of right now. At any rate, I'm trying to think and nothing happens. Thanks for all the inside TIPS! Luvya. Ciao, babe. Ross Benderhttp://rossbender.org
RE: [UC] Dear Adeline
Title: Message Ross, My day was just shitty until I read Dear Adeline. Thanks for putting a smile on my face! Mario :-P -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:10 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [UC] Dear Adeline Dear Adeline: I've just moved into my DARLING charming and elegant old fixer-upper in UC Village (of course it's in the Catchment Basin for the new Judy Rodin School of Disembodied Poetics) and it is simply GORGEOUS! Only one problemo -- the kitchen and bathroom floors simply WON'T DO!! I mean, they've got those stinkywhite vinyl blocks and crappy tiny tiles -- you know the kind that I mean? So like positively RETRO! I mean, we're talking SO twenty seconds ago, know what I mean? What do YOU advise? Also, while we were moving in my boyfriend got mugged RIGHT ON THE FRONT STEPS!! I mean, I thought this was a nice SAFE neighborhood!! Of course I got a description of the PERP and I cellphoned it to Mommy RIGHT AWAY! The guy was of course a big scary black fellow, about 6 feet9 inches tall, really dark complexion, thick lips, scars all over his body, wearing this creepy gray hoody kinda thing. OH, and I jotted down a DISTINGUISHING MARK -- he had these big white buck teeth and in the middle of the left front incisor he had this HOLE chiseled out in the shape of a HEART! And he kinda lisped. And he said his name was Frank. So hopefully the police can put away this evildoer PRETTY SOON. I hope! Or we might have to consider moving back to Narberth. I mean, jeez, our real estate agent told us this was a SAFE neighborhood. FINALLY, the old bathtub has about sixteen legs, a layer of thick green moss all over it, and big scary hairs growing out of the bunghole. OF COURSE the first thing I thought was like this has SO got to be replaced, but then my boyfriend was flipping through the recent issue of Urban Homes and Gardens and he saw where these Yuppies in Detroit had their old 16-legger refinished and they redid the whole bathroom in sort of New Age/Art Deco style and won the Suburban Plastic Cheese award, so can you give me any advice? ALSO, my hind end is getting sorta saggy, I mean I AM almost 30 years old now, so I was wondering is there a good Nip 'n Tuck place in the Hood? Of course I make an annual trip to Singapore for you know like augmentations and such, but for say a monthly toneup I'd like to use some local craftsman. Do you know any good pizza places that deliver? And where we can get the Beemer serviced? And speaking of servicing, can you tell me (just between us girls) whereel boyfriendocan get a nice BLOW JOB? I mean, you know how men are these days, and I really find that kind of stuff kinda DISTASTEFUL, know what I mean? Plus Arthur always wants me to swallow, and I'm like YECCH, gag me with a spoon. So I was reading in COSMO that nowadays young wives are like "OUTSOURCING" these unpleasant domestic duties and I figured in a hip and trendy neighborhood like UC Village there MUST be a service. Guess that's about all I can think of right now. At any rate, I'm trying to think and nothing happens. Thanks for all the inside TIPS! Luvya. Ciao, babe. Ross Benderhttp://rossbender.org
[UC] DON'T GO ANYWHERE!!
Title: DON'T GO ANYWHERE!! To University City Democrats, Listen to me out there. This isn't over yet. 1. Though it's looking like a Bush victory, that's no reason not to wait for the official count in Ohio and the other 4 states. 2. If Bush is elected, we need to work harder than ever to make him perform. This is no time to go running to Canada. You're needed here, in YOUR COUNTRY. Do you hear me? YOUR COUNTRY, I don't care how many voters caved in to fear. 3. We need to work on creating a political reformation in America. This isn't just about Nov. 2nd, 2004, it's about planning for a whole generation from today. The Republican victory is pyrrhic and futile. They still rule over a bitterly divided America. 4. The world outside the U.S. is both laughing and crying. Those who wish us ill sit back and await the Bush administration and their failed foreign policy. Bush is Al-Quaeda's poster boy for Western intolerance and colonialism. The people of Iraq see a false leader who's perpetuated a bloody war that's seen over 100,000 of their number die in a senseless, baseless war. 5. Constituency - We have to become citizens that pelt our local politicians with our demands. We need to educate as many people around us as possible, our family, friends, neighbors and even complete strangers. We MUST create constituency. We must a make a Republican majority deal with our demands and that means threatening them with the power of a coalesced constituency that can vote them out. 6. The 2006 Congressional Election. We have two years to effect a major change in the Congress. Support your Democratic Congressional candidates now. Don't wait to 2006 to see who we need to put in office, start looking around now to see how we can oust Republicans like Rick Santorum by finding and supporting a better candidate to change the balance of power. 7. Support the minority. We may still have a minority in Congress, but that doesn't mean they can't effect change. We need to the Deomcratic minority that we have their back. That we will muster the vote. We must be a collective voice that backs theirs with results. 8. The 2008 Elections. We need to make sure that the 2008 presidential candidate is given the FULL support of the Democratic constituency. Our base has to come together and stop trying to create a super-candidate. Whoever gets the next nomination in the Spring of '08. But even before the next Democratic Presidential Primary, we the to give them solid, inflinching support. So many Democrats thought that Kerry wasn't a good enough candidate. This lack of party loyalty is proving lethal to Democratic politicians and their campaigns. 9 It kills me to say this, because against my general code of ethics, but we need to become as virilent as the Republican base. They don't care if they're right or ethically correct in the campaigning. All they care about is a check in the win column and they will horrifyingly dehumanize an opponent and pass off a myriad number of half-truths and innuendo to scare or maniluplate voters. It certainly worked in this election. We need to become the bastards they are, if we want to win elections. We must mount equally virilent attacks against Republican candidates. In some sense giving them a taste of their own medicine. Again, this idea is still making me hurl, but we won't win elections trying to do the right thing. We need to punch back, at the very least, to defend ourselves. We must circle the wagons immediately and get to work now. There's no sense in living in regret. We need to look at the lessons of the past and strategize our political campaigning and voting record. We came out in great numbers this year. We energized the democratic process. We registered hundreds of thousands of new voters and put the Republican campaign machine on alert. We can do this folks. It's about the future and what you want to make it. Be strong. Don't give in to despair or depression. Your voices are still important. Do not go gently into that good night! Mario Giorno
[UC] DON'T GO ANYWHERE!!
Title: DON'T GO ANYWHERE!! To University City Democrats, Listen to me out there. This isn't over yet. 1. Though it's looking like a Bush victory, that's no reason not to wait for the official count in Ohio and the other 4 states. 2. If Bush is elected, we need to work harder than ever to make him perform. This is no time to go running to Canada. You're needed here, in YOUR COUNTRY. Do you hear me? YOUR COUNTRY, I don't care how many voters caved in to fear. 3. We need to work on creating a political reformation in America. This isn't just about Nov. 2nd, 2004, it's about planning for a whole generation from today. The Republican victory is pyrrhic and futile. They still rule over a bitterly divided America. 4. The world outside the U.S. is both laughing and crying. Those who wish us ill sit back and await the Bush administration and their failed foreign policy. Bush is Al-Quaeda's poster boy for Western intolerance and colonialism. The people of Iraq see a false leader who's perpetuated a bloody war that's seen over 100,000 of their number die in a senseless, baseless war. 5. Constituency - We have to become citizens that pelt our local politicians with our demands. We need to educate as many people around us as possible, our family, friends, neighbors and even complete strangers. We MUST create constituency. We must a make a Republican majority deal with our demands and that means threatening them with the power of a coalesced constituency that can vote them out. 6. The 2006 Congressional Election. We have two years to effect a major change in the Congress. Support your Democratic Congressional candidates now. Don't wait to 2006 to see who we need to put in office, start looking around now to see how we can oust Republicans like Rick Santorum by finding and supporting a better candidate to change the balance of power. 7. Support the minority. We may still have a minority in Congress, but that doesn't mean they can't effect change. We need to the Deomcratic minority that we have their back. That we will muster the vote. We must be a collective voice that backs theirs with results. 8. The 2008 Elections. We need to make sure that the 2008 presidential candidate is given the FULL support of the Democratic constituency. Our base has to come together and stop trying to create a super-candidate. Whoever gets the next nomination in the Spring of '08. But even before the next Democratic Presidential Primary, we the to give them solid, inflinching support. So many Democrats thought that Kerry wasn't a good enough candidate. This lack of party loyalty is proving lethal to Democratic politicians and their campaigns. 9 It kills me to say this, because against my general code of ethics, but we need to become as virilent as the Republican base. They don't care if they're right or ethically correct in the campaigning. All they care about is a check in the win column and they will horrifyingly dehumanize an opponent and pass off a myriad number of half-truths and innuendo to scare or maniluplate voters. It certainly worked in this election. We need to become the bastards they are, if we want to win elections. We must mount equally virilent attacks against Republican candidates. In some sense giving them a taste of their own medicine. Again, this idea is still making me hurl, but we won't win elections trying to do the right thing. We need to punch back, at the very least, to defend ourselves. We must circle the wagons immediately and get to work now. There's no sense in living in regret. We need to look at the lessons of the past and strategize our political campaigning and voting record. We came out in great numbers this year. We energized the democratic process. We registered hundreds of thousands of new voters and put the Republican campaign machine on alert. We can do this folks. It's about the future and what you want to make it. Be strong. Don't give in to despair or depression. Your voices are still important. Do not go gently into that good night! Mario Giorno
[UC] DON'T GO ANYWHERE!!
Title: DON'T GO ANYWHERE!! To University City Democrats, Listen to me out there. This isn't over yet. 1. Though it's looking like a Bush victory, that's no reason not to wait for the official count in Ohio and the other 4 states. 2. If Bush is elected, we need to work harder than ever to make him perform. This is no time to go running to Canada. You're needed here, in YOUR COUNTRY. Do you hear me? YOUR COUNTRY, I don't care how many voters caved in to fear. 3. We need to work on creating a political reformation in America. This isn't just about Nov. 2nd, 2004, it's about planning for a whole generation from today. The Republican victory is pyrrhic and futile. They still rule over a bitterly divided America. 4. The world outside the U.S. is both laughing and crying. Those who wish us ill sit back and await the Bush administration and their failed foreign policy. Bush is Al-Quaeda's poster boy for Western intolerance and colonialism. The people of Iraq see a false leader who's perpetuated a bloody war that's seen over 100,000 of their number die in a senseless, baseless war. 5. Constituency - We have to become citizens that pelt our local politicians with our demands. We need to educate as many people around us as possible, our family, friends, neighbors and even complete strangers. We MUST create constituency. We must a make a Republican majority deal with our demands and that means threatening them with the power of a coalesced constituency that can vote them out. 6. The 2006 Congressional Election. We have two years to effect a major change in the Congress. Support your Democratic Congressional candidates now. Don't wait to 2006 to see who we need to put in office, start looking around now to see how we can oust Republicans like Rick Santorum by finding and supporting a better candidate to change the balance of power. 7. Support the minority. We may still have a minority in Congress, but that doesn't mean they can't effect change. We need to the Deomcratic minority that we have their back. That we will muster the vote. We must be a collective voice that backs theirs with results. 8. The 2008 Elections. We need to make sure that the 2008 presidential candidate is given the FULL support of the Democratic constituency. Our base has to come together and stop trying to create a super-candidate. Whoever gets the next nomination in the Spring of '08. But even before the next Democratic Presidential Primary, we the to give them solid, inflinching support. So many Democrats thought that Kerry wasn't a good enough candidate. This lack of party loyalty is proving lethal to Democratic politicians and their campaigns. 9 It kills me to say this, because against my general code of ethics, but we need to become as virilent as the Republican base. They don't care if they're right or ethically correct in the campaigning. All they care about is a check in the win column and they will horrifyingly dehumanize an opponent and pass off a myriad number of half-truths and innuendo to scare or maniluplate voters. It certainly worked in this election. We need to become the bastards they are, if we want to win elections. We must mount equally virilent attacks against Republican candidates. In some sense giving them a taste of their own medicine. Again, this idea is still making me hurl, but we won't win elections trying to do the right thing. We need to punch back, at the very least, to defend ourselves. We must circle the wagons immediately and get to work now. There's no sense in living in regret. We need to look at the lessons of the past and strategize our political campaigning and voting record. We came out in great numbers this year. We energized the democratic process. We registered hundreds of thousands of new voters and put the Republican campaign machine on alert. We can do this folks. It's about the future and what you want to make it. Be strong. Don't give in to despair or depression. Your voices are still important. Do not go gently into that good night! Mario Giorno -Original Message- From: Wilma de Soto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: Mark Krull; Jonathan Cass; UnivCity listserv Subject: Re: [UC] Bush Victory Yes, it certainly is. Moreover, the Heartland which decides the course of this country is the least likely place where a terrorist attack will occur. They are prone to attack major metropolitan areas large, financial districts or seats of national government; namely the Eastern Seaboard and West Coats which went heavily for Kerry. Anyway, he was duly elected and we have to respect that we live in a different country from The Heartland. Fortunately, we are exposed to many more things and have a larger point of view that they do not see. I went to college in Ohio and I know whereof I speak. On 11/3/04 9:48 AM, Mark Krull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its depressing really. It was values that led to this. -Original Message
RE: [UC] Bush Victory
Title: RE: [UC] Bush Victory Scott, That's an excellent observation. The idea that no candidate is actually a good religious fit. I have to admit that I always hope that people leave religion and spiritual ideology out of politics and public policy. I feel this way, Scott, because it's impossible to have a public servant who only identifies and represents a certain sect rather than taking the secular mantle of having to represent them all. However, it's become obvious that a politician has to take a religious side , as it were. I would then be a great idea to establish a religious left. This voice could counter much of the hypocracy in Bush's fundamentalist, and right-wing Catholic following. I'd like to hear more of what you think local churches, synagogues, temples and religious congregations can do to join and discuss what they want in a politician or elected official. It's certainly a great constituency-building idea. Mario Giorno -Original Message- From: Clinton, J. Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [UC] Bush Victory Importance: Low I'm not exactly sure how this all relates to west philly, but I suppose that the election is the most newsworthy topic of discussion for most people; all of the lists I subscribe to are temporarially election discussion lists. So here's my plea. Try not to blame the outcome of the election on moralists or religious whackos or whatever. I'm not sure that is where this discussion is going, but it sure did on other lists and so I'd like to try and prevent that here. I'm not a member of a political party because I don't see that either group represents my interests very well. I toss my tiny bit of support one way or another depending on the election. I am also a Christian, though I certainly don't identify with the conservative Christian ideology. The problem is, the Democrats can't seem to put a candidate on the ticket that I can wholehartedly support. Folks like me are tired of being told who we must vote for because of our faith when neither group really takes positions that we hold as important. There are lots of other progressive Christians out there, but they need to be courted and split away from the religious right. This would take a mighty chunk from the Republican base of support. I don't think the Democrats are going to do this though, because to court these people, they run the risk of turning off some of the more liberal elements of their support. So maybe someone out there has an idea how to organize the Religious Left to help counter the Religious Right or what that might look like. I truly feel for folks (in Ohio and elsewhere) who may have wanted to vote for John Kerry but couldn't quite do it because the national discussion of religious values was given up to the conservatives and nobody really talked about the flaws in the theology of just wars, the inconsistancy of being anti-abortion and pro-death pentalty, the invasion of foreign lands flying in the face of Christs' call to turn the other cheek, etcetera, etcetera. My $.02 for what it is worth. To read what someone who really knows how to write said about some of this, there is a statement put together by some theologeans at Fuller Seminary at: http://www.fullerseminary.net/sot/faculty/stassen/Resource_files/confessingc hrist.pdf -j. scott clinton -Original Message- From: Wilma de Soto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: Mark Krull; Jonathan Cass; UnivCity listserv Subject: Re: [UC] Bush Victory Yes, it certainly is. Moreover, the Heartland which decides the course of this country is the least likely place where a terrorist attack will occur. They are prone to attack major metropolitan areas large, financial districts or seats of national government; namely the Eastern Seaboard and West Coats which went heavily for Kerry. Anyway, he was duly elected and we have to respect that we live in a different country from The Heartland. Fortunately, we are exposed to many more things and have a larger point of view that they do not see. I went to college in Ohio and I know whereof I speak. On 11/3/04 9:48 AM, Mark Krull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its depressing really. It was values that led to this. -Original Message- From: Jonathan Cass [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 3, 2004 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UC] Bush Victory The only silver lining I can see is that Bush is going have to deal with the mess that he created in Iraq and the next terrorist attack that will likely occur on his watch. I don't even want to think about what is going to happen with the Supreme Court. I think I am going to puke. Jonathan A. Cass -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UC
RE: [UC] Voter Turnout or How to Maximize the Number of Votes Cas t
Title: Message Craig, I'm only sending this out to understand who you are and what you're general message or goal is on the list. I can only guess throughyourrecent listservemessages that you are a Democrat. If so, is you're philosophy meant to burn down the Democrats house in order to save it? I will go along with you that the level of corruption among Philadelphia Democrats is profuse, I actually voted for a Republican mayor Sam Katz, in the last two elections, because of this corruption. I never thought I'd have to do that, but I listened to my conscience as well as my intellect and did it. I also agree will the philosophy that it's better to be a logical and educated voter and citizen and to not allow misconduct even in the party I strive to empower. However, where do you draw the line between being an honest and moral Democrat and thereafter being a loud, garrulous and demoralizing Democrat who seems more bent on destroying the good willand hope of Democrats - at least the one's on this list? Yes, encourage them to debate forensically, whether it's on this list or in their living rooms, but don't insult and harass them in a pathetic attempt to belittle them using this list. You have a right to voice your opinion, and I would hope back it up with as many facts and examples as you can, but don't actively try to demoralize and slander the other members who write here. Your insults only undo all the goodyou try to effect in giving people information. A loudmouth can have all of the right answers, but if he spends half of his time doling out answers and the other half trading insults, he's not going to get very many people to pay attention to his answers or even try to have an honest debate. I look forward to you response. Mario Giorno P.S. - Even if you've heard it from everyone around you, folks, go and vote. If you've already voted, thank you for doing your civic duty and making this democracy work. Without the participation of the people, the citizenry, democracy won't work! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:23 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [UC] Voter Turnout or How to Maximize the Number of Votes Cast In a message dated 11/2/2004 2:09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: polling places in private homes, bars, businesses, etc. This is very common in quid pro quo situations. The ward leader comes to the bar owner, merchant etc to buy tickets to fundraisers during the year. The merchant then recoups his "donation" by getting paid to be a polling place. And, he will expect a favor or two during the year, otherwise known as constituent services. In the past a favorite favor was, when there was not enough street parking for bar patrons, to park on the sidewalk along the bar and not get ticketed. Using a privateresidence as a polling place precludes the homeowner's opposing political party from installing signs. I, homerowner, support Kerry and you, opposition, support Bush. I will not allow you to display Bush signs on my front lawn or wall. You have no presence, and my signs are everywhere. Who you gonna cry to? And, you still have to live in the neighborhood after the election is over. I wonder how common it is to havethe confusion of more than one division voting at the same place? Its called economy of scale or command and control. Not unusual to have as many as four divisions working out of one, for example American Legion Post. The benefits: Controlling poll watchers. I ward leader tell you novice good citizen poll watcher there is only one credentialed poll watcher allowed in the polling place at one time (which is the rule). My guerillas usher three of you out the door until you call someone for help.During theruckus of removal, I then vote everyone who has given me permission, in their absence, to vote for them because of favors (fixed tickets, bro in jail, etc.) I did them this past year. Analysis: a) there are people who vote every election because of favors done them. They "owe" the vote. I, committed party official, do them the favor of not having to come to the polling place. I absolutely know how they voted because my corrupt election board member casts it for them. This is very common in SPhila where I have been told outright "I can't helpyou this election" i.e. if he shows up to vote in person there will be a major problem. I wont bore you with more on list. b) It takes a while for a commission official or ADA to arrive and explain to everyone that the Post is considered for (4) polling places because it votes four (4) divisions. Your three associates are now allowed back in. I apologize. How many times did the one remaining poll watcher run in a
RE: [UC] Voter Suppression
Title: Message Folks, I quote Public Enemy: "DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!" This electiondon't let theharsh and demonic campaign machines bend your will. YOUKNOW whoYOUNEED to vote for sojust do it! Mario "I'm baack!!!" Giorno -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 3:14 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Fwd: [UC] Voter Suppression To be honest, nothing that's being done here surprises me anymore - and that's sad. We've even gotten phone calls asking us to "consider" changing our vote to the "right" party and that these phone calls are approved by Bush. I think that's going too far myself. Don't forget, these are the same people who tried to block any protesters from being allowed to assemble in NYC during the convention, and when that failed, went on an insane arrest/holding without due processspree and even that incident with one of the young Republicans seen on tape kicking a protester.
RE: [UC] Voter Suppression
Title: Message HeeHee. Terminator Craig, you better tell these people what time it is! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:57 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [UC] Voter Suppression In a message dated 11/1/2004 6:25:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!" This electiondon't let theharsh and demonic campaign machines bend your will. YOUKNOW whoYOUNEED to vote for sojust do it! Mario "I'm baack!!!" Giorno So now we have to chose between youand Mosetter? Ameica may not be ready for this.
RE: [UC] On my walk to work today ....
Kyle, What a perfect Karmic bitchslap! That's fucking hilarious! Mario Giorno Communications Research Technician Annenberg Public Policy Center University of Pennsylvania 3620 Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 -Original Message- From: Kyle Cassidy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:08 AM To: UC Subject: [UC] On my walk to work today I noticed a taxi had gone around the road block on 44th and walnut trying to shortcut up to locust and drove right into a trench filled with wet cement. When I got there, the construction workers were still laying on the ground prone in peals of laughter. http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/taxi.jpg Just thought I'd share. Kc P.s. mr. hugs this morning before I left home: http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/mr-hugs-10.jpg Much better than living under a car. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Presence of students drives up West Phila. real estate v alues
Brian, I agree. The bloated property values in UC are going to come back and haunt us when the Fed raises the prime rate. When the dollar doesn't pick up the necessary value by the end of this fiscal year, etc. Now Upenn has lowered the endowment to $7,500.00 instead of $15,000.00. They're angling to lower the really fast price increase of UC properties caused by their free money. After I bought my house last summer, the price automatically rose approximately - that's right, you guessed it - $15,000.00. That's a fast increase and the appraisers don't care if that money is actually getting put into the property the way that it's supposed to. Even the University of Pennsylvania has to admit that they are helping create an inflated housing market in the area. They lowered the endowment to start changing the trend and also added more potential real estate to the community by expanding the borders to 52nd Street and Haverford Ave. This also gives companies like Campus Apartments, New Age Reality, O'Donnell Real Estate, etc. to slam their rents to the ceiling because their property is now considered so much more valuable by an appraiser. They make the students feel small and powerless by giving them the ultimatum of either finding cheaper housing in Center City, which isn't going to happen, or move further West toward 49th, 52nd, etc. I feel sorry for the student renters, Penn's plan to give its employees the opportunity of close housing has reciprically made rental housing more expensive and harder to find. enn needs to gain better control of the housing situation or it may affect the decision of students and their parents to choose UC as an acceptable community to come to for their sheepskin. Let's not forget the brutal stabbing last weekend of a Upenn student in his house or the child molestation that occurred earlier in February. The University likes to keep its problems hush-hush and self-contained, but this is just adding to a pile of problems that is starting to stack up. If I were a freshman thinking about Upenn, I might have to do a second take on whether or not I'd want to live here. Okay I'm getting off of the soapbox now, Mario Giorno Communications Research Technician Annenberg Public Policy Center University of Pennsylvania 3620 Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 -Original Message- From: Brian Siano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:56 AM Cc: UC Subject: Re: [UC] Presence of students drives up West Phila. real estate values John Ellingsworth wrote: http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/406a8b1508f12 It's kind of an odd headline, because the facts are otherwise. it's not the students who drive up rents, but the increased home ownership that's made rental units slightly scarcer. After all, there have been renters in West Philly for decades, so the recent surge of rents can't be attributed to their presence. But this does illustrate a point Tony West has made every so often: the rental market is a major part of our local economy, and it should be taken into account when deciding upon policy. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Sunday at abbraccio:vegetarians
Folks, I don't think it's right to hold Vincent and Roger's feet to the fire here. For those wanting to properly define vegan, ovo-lacto vegetarian, and vegetarian should visit this link for a quick dispute about definitions: http://www.veganoutreach.org/advocacy/definingvegan.html. Vince and Roger run a quality establishment. Their meat, fish and produce are top-quality and their chef has a very disciplined care in food preparation. They cater to families, banquets, Sunday brunch crowds and promote a smoke-free bar and restaurant only looking out for the health of their customers, who are really their family, friends and neighbors. By-the-way, you can still smoke on the porch during warm months. The definition of vegetarian food and food preparation differs a little with each person you ask, but I trust that the folks at Abbraccio Restaurant have a good enough idea of what vegan, ovo-lacto vegetarian, and vegetarian mean. In the cause of proper definition, it realy doesn't help to be a vegan nazi. It won't help you as the customer and it won't help the restaurant. Because so many of us who call ourselves vegetarians don't have a common definition to cling to, it is incumbent upon us to tell the staff *EXACTLY* what we do and don't want in our food. Let the waitstaff know and they have the chef give you want you want. As far as the brunch food is concerned, well I think they've gone as far as the average restaurant would dare to go in providing veggy fair for some of their customers, and perhaps a little bit further. I, personally, would like to see the inclusion of soy milk or rice milk for those of us who want cereal without dairy and possibly some seasoned veggy sausage patties vroiled in a little extra virgin olive oil, let's says (just spread a little on the tray), hhh! They already have coffee, tea and juices for everyone, but I also like things like V8 juice for extra vitiamins and minerals in the morning. you can ask to have omlettes made with EggBeaters or egg whites to lower the cholesterol and saturated fat level of the egg material you eat. Veggie cheeses in different flavors like American, Provolone and Swiss would also be killed additions to the omlette preparation. However, while these changes in the brunch would be delicious additions from the vegetarian point of view, most customers would pass on using them. I hate to speak for customers I've never met, but I know most of them are meat eaters and don't care for vegetarian anything, although Kyle Cassidy came up with a valid number of 28.7% vegetarian for last Sunday's crowd. I'll also bet that it's probably more expensive to buy and prepare vegatarian food, which means Vincent and Frank would have to watch how much they spend for those products. I don't want them going broke trying to feed vegetarians either. I'm sorry for the diatribe, folks, but I like for focus on developing the questions we need to ask ourselves first and then focusing on all of the possible solutions. By-the-way, thank you Vince and Roger! Viva los professores Mario Giorno Communications Research Technician Health Communications Annenberg School for Communication University of Pennsylvania 3620 Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 (215) 898-7046 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: J. HolmesAndrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:57 PM To: Mark Krull; Vincent/Roger; Kyle Cassidy; 'university City List ' Subject: Re: [UC] Sunday at abbraccio:vegetarians so why no response to the beans? I give the Abbraccio folks credit for wanting to make people happy and trying to run a fine establishment...but i do think people in food professions should use correct terminology in order to make those who have all the dietary concerns noted feel confident in what they serve...a vegan or vegetarian needs to know that when they ask the waitstaff or chef or owner if something is vegetarian or vegan that they are all using the term with a mutually understood definition. --- Mark Krull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I give Roger Herman Kudos for his patience. Thanks -Original Message- From: Vincent/Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mar 5, 2004 6:50 AM To: J. HolmesAndrews [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'university City List ' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] Sunday at abbraccio:vegetarians PLEASE!!! a brief tirade - vegetarians do not eat FISH (or chicken)! We appreciate the many comments about vegetarians, including the one above. And we have great respect for the food choices that people make, but as anyone who has ever had a restaurant (including all of us at Abbraccio) will tell you, there are MANY people who claim to be vegetarian who do eat fish or even sometimes they'll eat chicken. I might question their use of the term vegetarian, but there it is. We also have customers who will not eat
RE: [UC] The Cat Vet at 22nd and South
Wow. That's some customer service. Mario -Original Message- From: Tancredi, Sue M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:41 PM To: Christy Bracken; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [UC] The Cat Vet at 22nd and South I strongly agree. I have been going to the cat vet for at least 15 years. One of my cats was from there via a pregnant stray they took in and the kittens were born in the office. When my beloved Huey, who was almost 19, was dying, we waited out the weekend to take him to the cat vet because we knew they would make am unbearable experience as best as possible. We were right. She did it gently and even wrapped him sweetly in the blanket we had brought after he passed (we took him to my mom's in NJ to bury him in a little box my husband built for him). And she didn't charge me a thing and sent me a little card about how sorry they were. They are great, and the phone number is easy to remember 215-545-CATS! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christy Bracken Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 11:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UC] The Cat Vet at 22nd and South To all University City cat owners: Kyle and I wanted to share with you the very positive experience we had yesterday evening with Dr. Elizabeth McKinstry, otherwise known as the Cat Vet. Her cozy little office is just over the Schuylkill on the 2200 block of South. Truly, if it weren't for the storefront windows it would be like walking into someone's home. Although Mr. Hugs (the orange stray that we picked up in January) is going to visit Dr. McKinstry next Wednesday to be neutered (gasp!), we needed to take him to the vet a little early because he seemed to be having urinary problems (which, I have learned, can quickly result in serious problems and even death in male cats). Dr. McKinstry gave Mr. Hugs an extremely thorough examination, but at the same time she handled him with utmost care and was very gentle with him. He was checked for ear mites (they're gone!) and had his teeth checked (he's missing two! He probably lost them in a catfight of epic proportions while he was living on the mean streets!). She took his temperature, listened to his heart, and felt for his internal organs. He didn't appreciate having his bladder squeezed (to check for crystals or a blockage), but he was very docile and well behaved otherwise. Thankfully, Mr. Hugs did NOT have a blockage. He did, however, have urinary crystals and his urinary pH was a little too high. Dr. McKinstry asked us what we were feeding him (Sheba and Fancy Feast... he lives like a KING!) and she told us not to feed him seafood-flavor cat food, but rather beef and liver cat food (seafood/fish flavors of cat food apparently exacerbate this problem... who knew?). She also gave us some sort of meat-flavored paste that we have to give him twice a day for a month to improve his urinary pH and get rid of the crystals. (I am sure he much prefers the taste of this paste to the taste of the bubble-gum flavored antibiotics that he's been taking for the past week.) She also recommended feeding him Science Diet Adult because it helps to balance the pH. So all in all, I have to say that I think both Kyle and I agree that we HIGHLY recommend Dr. McKinstry to any cat owner who doesn't yet have a vet or who is unhappy with their current vet. I had taken Mr. Hugs to O'Neal Animal Hospital last week and although I believe Mr. Hugs was treated very well and received good care there, I feel that Dr. McKinstry's office provided a little something extra. Warm fuzzies, if you will. The base price for an office visit at the Cat Vet is $35, which I think is reasonable. Mr. Hugs' visit ended up being $69 (ouch), mainly because he also had a urinalysis performed, plus we bought the pH-balancing paste and the Science Diet food. Kyle and I also had the added expense of cab fare to 22nd and South, but your mileage may vary on that aspect. Cheers! Christy _ Create a Job Alert on MSN Careers and enter for a chance to win $1000! http://msn.careerbuilder.com/promo/kaday.htm?siteid=CBMSN_1Ksc_extcmp=JS_JA Sweep_MSNHotm2 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl
Good fences make good neighbors. - Robert Frost -Original Message- From: S. Sharrieff Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 1:55 PM To: 'Alex de Soto'; 'Mario Giorno'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl Hey Alex: I don't agree. It would not create any problem with sliding down the bowl, the fence will be on the perimeter. It doesn't need to be ugly either, as long as it is not a tall silver cyclone fence (they look much better in black anyway). In concept, it is a compromise because it answers the needs of both sides. The bowl could still be used for everything it is already used for. Resurfacing the bowl will cost a ton of money. It seems to me to be the least expensive way, would call for less change in everyone's lifestyle, and would not require numerous meetings to make changes in the master plan or to establish another dog park. S. -Original Message- From: Alex de Soto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 12:30 PM To: 'S. Sharrieff Ali'; 'Mario Giorno'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl Sharrieff, Mario, and all, I find this to be an awful comprise. Not only does it have the potential of looking extremely ugly, but it would also make it difficult for kids (and adults) to slide down the sides of the bowl when covered with snow. The bowl could be resurfaced with something more lasting than grass (gravel, a la French parks) perhaps augmented by a water feature. A dog park should be funded by dog-owners somewhere else. The master plan should flex to accommodate them. Alex de Soto -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S. Sharrieff Ali Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 10:14 AM To: 'Mario Giorno'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl Hey...that's my idea! Mario: I also suggested that the bowl be fenced in. I see this as a compromise for all. It would provide a barrier for the children and an enter at your own risk area while allowing the dog owners to still have some since of community and freedom. It would be a more legal setting then what we have now. The fence idea should have been explored in the master plan for the park. I think that the dog owners that are interested in preserving the freedom for dogs in the bowl should get a committee together to fund raise, leverage government dollars and make it happen. The dogs' off-leash remains an issue of liability for the city and dog owners, assessment of risk, safety and security, law enforcement and responsible behavior. None of these factors will change no matter what we end up with. S. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Giorno Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:42 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl Dave, Don't turn this into an emotional fight. We need to have a logical debate about this. Would you bring your children to Clark Park, if you knew that large dogs, some potentially harmful to children, were running around unleashed? You must admit that it's a legal problem. And as for the childish claim of Who was here first?, I'd suggest you concentrate on the reality of who actually lives here now. There is a moral priority here. Children's safety is more important the the rights of animals to have a natural landscape in which to run and play. Perhaps it's the dog owners who should hightail it to the burbs if they want their dogs to have a place to run. The animals would be happier and healthier out there rather than in a metro area that is rather animal-unfriendly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl The dogs and their owners have been in the Clark Park bowl forever. Certainly long before the arrival of the yuppies to our fair shores. At first, some hailed the yuppies' arrival as some great thing. After all, they do bring a lot of disposable trinkets. But now the yuppies are breeding and they aren't happy with just all of PENN. They want Clark Park too. I say screw them. This is the city, they already have their suburbs. David You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive
