Re: # actually the short way returns an error / PARENTHESES
It is true that the polygon needs to be regular, which really leaves a lot to be desired... you can't rotate non-regular vector art, and you can't rotate groups of art regular or not. so the things you're rotating are pretty limited. and my results from rotating things I created with the weird paint tool experience shall not even be discussed. btw I don't know that we call these delimiters anything in English. They are simply less-than/greater-than signs. I know, however, they they are typographer's quotation marks as around the world. Yours, Chris On Feb 22, 2004, at 2:36 AM, Malte Brill wrote: hi opie and all, GEEZ!! I did it again!!! g I always say brackets ( is that []? ) when I mean parentheses [ is that ()?]. What is the english name of these ? If you happen to see me saying something about brackets it is always possible I mean parentheses and vice versa... :-( In the example I sent, there is a precedence problem. I was pretty confused about that problem and if I remember correctly 1.1.1 compiled and ran the non parenthesis version.. I might be wrong there. P.S. Don't know what kind of graphic that pointer1 is...but...in my test, although it compiled correctly with the above...*my* pointer1 didn't seem to rotate... Needs to be a regular polygon. (I had to look it up, because it didn´t rotate here either.) Best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How could i Post binary data to perl cgi?
At 1:29 am -0600 22/2/04, Chipp Walters wrote: Alejandro, Contact Dave Cragg about this. We've been working with him to do just what you want in the last couple months. I've contacted Al off list about getting this working. For everyone else, a beta version of libUrl incorporating multipart form support (and some other things) will be available soon. I just need to get the documentation in order. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: save dialogue stuck
Friedrich F. Grohmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I imported one medium sized HyperCard stack (approximately 5500 cards) That's not medium for me ;-) As you are switching from HC to RR, think about another strategy... If there is lot of repeatitive data, why not resort to text (or bin) data outside the stack, and have the stack only as a front end? Also, when I'm struggling with an old HC stack, I am often happy to go with a fresh new RR stack. sure, you have to collect the HC scripts and translate them into Transcript. But there are a number of tools in HC for that purpose! Also again, I often comment out the hypertalk scripts, and translate test them one at a time... HTH, Dom -- Vous parlez français ? faites un tour sur le groupe francophone ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jetez un oeil sur RevoBlog http://revoblog.free.fr ! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Does anyone actually USE the Animation Builder?
I also think this is an OSX only thing, It's generic to all Mac OS versions, AFAIK. Upon further testing, I'd like to retract that last statement. I remembered my animations as jumpy in Mac OS 9; however, compared to the same animation on OS 10.2, they are indeed much smoother. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PARENTHESES
Your right about the ^ being a caret/carrot. But what then are the left and right angle brackets called besides left and right brackets or less than/greater than??? any ideas??? T Angle brackets (open and close). /H ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Discrete Browser version 1.5g6
added the historical and status to the home page. http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=139 just for those who like new things I left unhidden the XOS language GUI managers... It's unifinished but (* just started today - dont expect much - got much more to integrate) Enjoy X 2 weeks snowboard session - all interested - im renting a chalet in switzerland in Verbier or Davos and splitting the costs. Free firework or sauna RunRev sessions! (7-20 March) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MisterX Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 18:54 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Discrete Browser version 1.5g6 Here is the long awaited upgrade of the Discrete Browser version 1.5. http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=44 Registration no longuer required for downloads! ;) Upgraded to PHPNuke 7.1 and revised site logo! cheers X Read the help field, it will help! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: # actually the short way returns an error / PARENTHESES (OT)
But not all circumflexes should be pointy, and since standard ascii doesn't allow for combining characters how was this intended to be useful as a character on a computer keyboard? (just thinking outloud, as someone very familiar with using alt-key combinations and accents, including circumflex, this has always seemed like a second-best choice for what would be on the 6 key - and just following as a vestige of typewriters that actually allowed a back-up overstrike) Yours, Chris On Feb 22, 2004, at 10:12 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: circumflex is the language reference for ^ (shift 6) but is also referred to as the caret key. On Feb 22, 2004, at 10:36 AM, Marian Petrides wrote: Actually a caret is a ^ (shift 6 on your keyboard). Is carrot the correct jargonese or just a misspelling of caret? M On Feb 22, 2004, at 9:45 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: are angle brackets in typography! but in computer jargon they have always been called carrots around here Tom On Feb 22, 2004, at 7:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the english name of these ? I thought these are called angle brackets ? :) http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/a/angle_brackets.html Shishi ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Reading Dan's Book
I am reading volume 1 of Dans book on page 287 ( or 313 in pdf) he says I just type the following line into the message box and hit Enter. The file will then contain one task I can work with as a starting point. Notice that I set this task's order item (the first item in the line) to 1 since it's the first and so far only task in the file. put 1|Task A|A|Pending|8/31/03|8/31/03|Note for Task A into URL file:MyToDo.txt but the message box come up with a Script compile error: Error description: Expression: bad factor, What does this mean ? what am I doing wrong ? when I open thos file with notepad the file is empty anyone explain to me please what a bad factor is Douglas ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading Dan's Book
At 1:36 AM + 2/21/2004, Douglas Mackay wrote: put 1|Task A|A|Pending|8/31/03|8/31/03|Note for Task A into URL file:MyToDo.txt but the message box come up with a Script compile error: Error description: Expression: bad factor, What does this mean ? what am I doing wrong ? when I open thos file with notepad the file is empty anyone explain to me please what a bad factor is It means there's something wrong with the syntax when Revolution tries to parse the statement. (For example, if you try to divide a number by a letter.) This statement works fine for me in the message box. Are you sure you're putting the whole thing on one line? (There shouldn't be a line break after the word URL, just in case.) Also, double-check the quotes. If 1|Task A|A|Pending|8/31/03|8/31/03|Note for Task A isn't surrounded by double quotes, you will get a bad factor error because Revolution will think the slashes are operators and try to do division. -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Making a 'droplet' application?
Hi all, I'm making a workflow app to batch process files. With the help of the list archives I've got my head around drag and drop so that a list of files from the Finder can be dragged into a field, then every item in the field gets processed- on dragDrop set the text of me to the dragData[files] --call the function that does the processing at this point end dragDrop What I would like to do is make this even more transparent by dropping files onto the app icon, in the same way that you can with AppleScript droplets. I can't see anything in the docs or list about this, and am wondering if it is even possible with Rev 2.1.2. Workaround- make an AppleScript droplet that takes the list of dropped files and launches the Rev app, but this is kind of inelegant... Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] UnixCal - Mac OS X only
On 21 Feb 2004, at 2:04 am, Peter T. Evensen wrote: Cool app! It's been a while since I read it, but does it say Meri and Pippin met Treebeard on 2/20? People have worked it all out based on a few dates (Shire dates their conversions), phases of the moon and days spent in various places. I had a book of Lord of the Rings maps once that dated every stage along the way. But you didn't include the French, German, Croatian and Russian stuff... No, that would have involved going down into sub-folders which wasn't worth the effort for me. Feel free to add this yourself :-) Cheers, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.troz.net/Rev/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Graphic Rotation
Scott, The tmpanel loaded and is very nicely designed, but the contents come up with a lot of html tags and the only live url is for the first demo. looks like some great stuff in here hiding among the tags. Yours, Chris On Feb 22, 2004, at 12:28 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Christopher Mitchell wrote: It is true that the polygon needs to be regular, which really leaves a lot to be desired... you can't rotate non-regular vector art, and you can't rotate groups of art regular or not. so the things you're rotating are pretty limited. You might want to look at our Tangram demo stack -- you may be able to adapt something there to your needs (math routines developed by Carl Manaster). Enter the following in your message box and scroll to the bottom of the list: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/tmpanel.rev; Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Graphic Rotation
Recently, Christopher Mitchell wrote: The tmpanel loaded and is very nicely designed, but the contents come up with a lot of html tags and the only live url is for the first demo. looks like some great stuff in here hiding among the tags. Works fine here. What version of Rev are you using? Alternatively, you can try this: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/tangram.rev; Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Graphic Rotation
I got it to work with an internal reload of the demos channel. rev 2.1.2 . This is some very interesting stuff in here all right. I think some of the math routines could be replaced by native functions now in rev (like atan) but it's really neat! Was this imported from HC, or are all the little cards that each hold one image (regular hc/mc icons) part of the optionally included graphics in the app builder? very cool stuff, all of it. This is a totally different application of the environment than I'd seen up until this point and I think some standalone demos of these would better impress upon my java friend that RunRev is not a toy gui maker. Yours, Chris On Feb 22, 2004, at 4:08 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Christopher Mitchell wrote: The tmpanel loaded and is very nicely designed, but the contents come up with a lot of html tags and the only live url is for the first demo. looks like some great stuff in here hiding among the tags. Works fine here. What version of Rev are you using? Alternatively, you can try this: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/tangram.rev; Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: # actually the short way returns an error / PARENTHESES
Tom,
According to Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket_(punctuation), the () [], {} and
are all considered to be brackets, but the common names are:
() Parentheses
[] Square Brackets
{} Braces
Angle Brackets
with alternate names as follows:
() Round Brackets, Curved Brackets, Parens, Fingernails
[] Crochets (in Great Britain, apparently)
{} Curly Brackets
Just FYI...
Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Carrot
{ Bracket }
[ Square Bracket ]
( Parenthesis )
\ Back Slash
/ Forward Slash
~ Tilde
All cool stuff
Tom
On Feb 22, 2004, at 3:36 AM, Malte Brill wrote:
What is the english name of these ?
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Re: Graphic Rotation
Recently, Christopher Mitchell wrote: I think some of the math routines could be replaced by native functions now in rev (like atan) but it's really neat! Was this imported from HC, or are all the little cards that each hold one image (regular hc/mc icons) part of the optionally included graphics in the app builder? As you surmised, this was originally an HC stack originally created by Carl (I think it was '97), which was modified to work with MC/Rev (importing of HC stacks is rarely straightforward). It could probably be adapted to rotate almost any object using the functions included in the stack script. Just need the correct math. I think some standalone demos of these would better impress upon my java friend that RunRev is not a toy gui maker. In fact, the reverse may be more accurate. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Graphic Rotation
If by this you mean non-standalones would be more impressive, he doesn't have the runtime environment on his machine . Yours, Chris On Feb 22, 2004, at 4:28 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I think some standalone demos of these would better impress upon my java friend that RunRev is not a toy gui maker. In fact, the reverse may be more accurate. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Graphic Rotation
Scott, The tmpanel loaded and is very nicely designed, but the contents come up with a lot of html tags and the only live url is for the first demo. looks like some great stuff in here hiding among the tags. Yours, Chris On Feb 22, 2004, at 12:28 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Chris, This issue has been on the list before. The following script may be helpful. It will rotate an arbitrary set of graphic points through an arbitrary angle. A number of people contributed to it. I have used a button name Pivot, with a grab me handler, to use as the point of rotation. On mouseUP --Rotate a polygon myPoly about a button Pivot by 45 degrees rotatePoly myPoly,the loc of button Pivot, 45 end mouseUP On rotatePoly theGraphic, thePivot, theAngle put the points of graphic theGraphic into tPoints put item 1 of thePivot into xPivot put item 2 of thePivot into yPivot put empty into newPointList --Set points relative to pivot repeat for each line tLine in tPoints put (item 1 of tLine)- xPivot , (item 2 of tLine)- yPivot return after tRelPoints end repeat put sin(theAngle* pi/180) into S put cos(theAngle * pi/180) into C --Rotate coordinate axes repeat for each line tLine in tRelPoints put round(C*(item 1 of tLine)+ S*(item 2 of tLine) + xPivot) comma after rotPtlist put round(-S*(item 1 of tLine) + C*(item 2 of tLine)+ yPivot)after rotPtlist put return after rotPtList end repeat set the points of graphic theGraphic to rotPtlist end rotatePoly Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Database GUI logic
Thanks, Jan.
On Sunday, February 8, 2004, at 07:37 AM, Jan Schenkel wrote:
--- hershrev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All functions work except update. (PostgreSQL)
Can you pinpoint under which circumstances it doesn't
work? A recipe or even a sample stack would help the
RunRev crew fix the problem.
Query 1
SELECT * FROM dataBase A
Field 1= last_name Field 2= first_name
Field 1, Connected to last name and selected last_name , field 2,
connected to first name and selected first_name.
Now if update is checked , when modified the text of one of the fields
it is modified in the db's, if not checked update db, and do it by
button
I just connect the fields and create 3 buttons, 1 go to previous, 2 go
to next and 3 update , I change the info , click the update button and
the info doesn't change in the db.
How do switch between query's ? In other words once
I need a SELECT and
sometime I need an INSERT and so on.
If you need to execute a query without changing the
sql that is already in the query, use the undocumented
command
revExecuteWithQuery pQueryName,pSQL
For example, suppose we have a query named Snafu,
and we want to execute an SQL statement in the
database it is connected to :
--
put INSERT INTO Foo VALUES('BAR') into tSQL
revExecuteWithQuery Snafu,tSQL
Qk question, there is already a Query in the query building, what is
the point of rewriting a Query ? should be
revExecuteWithQuery( Snafu) with the query it already contains ?
--
Also the bottom line about the same code needs to be
written as put
revSelect(or Form)Query(..).into field a put
revSelectQuery().into field b and so on and then
to write an UPDATE
SQL on all concatenated fields with revExecuteSQL
and with some playing
around its also portable to different db's.
Or maybe to put all the info at once into a variable
or an Array and
the select from it cell by cell?
I'm not sure I quite understand the first part of what
you're getting at, but it is always possible to save
data in an array or a custom property set as the user
makes changes.
What I meant is , if connecting every field to a Query , and writing
Query's for them , wouldn't be better to just write a Query to store in
variable and then in every field put a
on event
get item 1(for every field a different item)
end event
or for every field a Query for itself e.g. put revFormQuery
(,,myDbid,SELECT last_name FROM database WHERE pk = myPk)
the pro's , portable , the cons I don't know . If there are please
enlighten me
Then at the click of a button, you can go through the
values in the array or custom property set, and build
an sql statement that you can then execute to make all
the changes at once.
Put the following into your card script :
--
on closeField
# first check if it's a db-linked field
if the cREVGeneral[database] of the target is true
See what youre trying to do , but isn't cREVGereral [] a profile
property? because I set a field , connected to the db ,tried it but
wondering..
then
# extract which field it is linked to
put the cREVDatabase[linkcolumn] of the target
into tColumnName
# now save the new data in custom prop set
set the uDBChanges[tColumnName] of me to the text
of the target
end if
end closeField
And finally, I looked over this script a couple of times , I just don't
grasp exactly what your doing over-here . Yes I got the point .
concatenating the field names with the data and creating an SQL
statement. but not the detail how it should be done , somehow I didn't
get it . Currently I'm focusing on doing it not with connected fields
for the reason mentioned above. AND every thing is geared towards a
standalone app.
I was thinking of some kind of on closeField to put the field name
after fieldnameVar and the data after dataVar and like to concatenate
line by line . The question how do I match both lines of both var's ? I
sure you have something better then this.
Thanks a million hershrev.
on UpdateDB
# save the currently selected custom prop set
put the customPropertySet of me into tOldCPSet
set the customPropertySet of me to uDBChanges
# check which fields have been changed
put the customKeys of me into tColumnNames
# prepare data for the final sql statement
repeat for each line tColumnName in tColumnNames
put the uDBChanges[tColumnName] of me into
tNewData
put tColumName = tNewData comma after
tFieldsAndValuesList
end repeat
delete char -1 of tFieldsAndValuesList
# exercise : get the primary keys and table
put FOO into tTable
put foo_id into tPrimaryKey
put 12345 into tPKValue
# now merge all this into the sql statement
put merge(UPDATE [[tTable]] SET
[[tFieldsAndValuesList]] WHERE
[[tPrimaryKey]]=[[tPKValue]]) into tSQL
# finally execute the sql statement
revExecuteWithQuery Snafu,tSQL
# restore the selected custom prop set
set the customPropertySet of me to tOldCPSet
end UpdateDB
--
I'll leave it as an exercise to react to mouseUp on
checkboxes, combo boxes,
Re: Scrolling a Card?
Hi Frank, Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:02:42 + From: Frank Leahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scrolling a Card? Here's code I use to scroll an image in the direction that the mouse is moving. -- Thanks, I'm looking it over. Hmmm...couple of things: 1) I might try to convert it to a mouseMove because polling mouse events (repeat while the mouse is down...) hogs the processor. 2) It doesn't appear to have bounds. What happens if you try to drag the image past the hScroll or vScroll limits of the scrollbars? Does the engine stop it automatically? Does it throw an error? Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parentheses
On 23/02/2004, at 9:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 23 February 2004 5:20:08 GMT+11:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PARENTHESES Reply-To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your right about the ^ being a caret/carrot. But what then are the left and right angle brackets called besides left and right brackets or less than/greater than??? any ideas??? The nearest to a formal name for left and right angle brackets is guillemet. Normally, these appear as and are used in European languages but the single form, a single guillement, is also used in typography. However, the guillemet is actually quite a bit smaller than the angle bracket used in most computer character sets while typographers also use a taller, less-angled version called well actually I don't know what that one is called (Tall Guillemet? Slim Guille?), so someone still has room to enlighten me. It seems perfectly good to me to keep calling them left and right angle brackets, or else you will sound like you are navigating in a rally for a manic in a Citroen. cheers David T ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Graphic Rotation
Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:59:13 -0600 Christopher Mitchell wrote: It is true that the polygon needs to be regular, which really leaves a lot to be desired... you can't rotate non-regular vector art, and you can't rotate groups of art regular or not. so the things you're rotating are pretty limited. In RunRev, look at the function: revRotatePoly. Different programmers has posted to this list (and Metacard list) handlers to rotate poligon graphics. In my website (look the direction at the foot of this post) you could find a stack named graphic transformations, that shows the use of matrices to scale, rotate and skew poligon graphics. al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Search the mail list: http://mindlube.com/cgi-bin/search-use-rev.cgi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling a Card?
On Monday, February 23, 2004, at 12:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm...couple of things: 1) I might try to convert it to a mouseMove because polling mouse events (repeat while the mouse is down...) hogs the processor. Unless you have a background process that needs time in your app, it doesn't really matter if the processor gets hogged for a bit (and OSX should take care of other processes ok) -- but it might be interesting to code it that way. 2) It doesn't appear to have bounds. What happens if you try to drag the image past the hScroll or vScroll limits of the scrollbars? Does the engine stop it automatically? Does it throw an error? Ken N. Setting the scroll negative will pin it to zero, and setting it max will pin it to max. Notice too I get the current value of the scroll each time through the loop, so that once it's pinned mouse movement in the opposite direction will start scrolling right away. -- Frank ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling a Card?
polling mouse events (repeat while the mouse is down...) hogs the processor. Unless you have a background process that needs time in your app, it doesn't really matter if the processor gets hogged for a bit (and OSX should take care of other processes ok) -- but it might be interesting to code it that way. In the past, another important concern for constructs such as repeat while the mouse is down or repeat until the mouse is up was that the mouseup event would sometimes get overlooked in the repeat handler. I don't know if this issue was ever addressed at a lower level but the possibility of missing a mouse event, as well as the additional processor use, were significant reasons for avoiding the aforementioned type of script. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making a 'droplet' application?
You will need to set up an AppleEvent handler in your stack script that recognises when a document is dropped on it, gets the name of the document(s) and processes them. You may also need to set up a defined file type. I think there have been discussions about this on the list in the past, so search the archives as well as checking the docs for AppleEvent. Cheers, Sarah On 23 Feb 2004, at 7:52 am, Ian Wood wrote: Hi all, I'm making a workflow app to batch process files. With the help of the list archives I've got my head around drag and drop so that a list of files from the Finder can be dragged into a field, then every item in the field gets processed- on dragDrop set the text of me to the dragData[files] --call the function that does the processing at this point end dragDrop What I would like to do is make this even more transparent by dropping files onto the app icon, in the same way that you can with AppleScript droplets. I can't see anything in the docs or list about this, and am wondering if it is even possible with Rev 2.1.2. Workaround- make an AppleScript droplet that takes the list of dropped files and launches the Rev app, but this is kind of inelegant... Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: save dialogue stuck
I highly appreciate Jacqueline's comments sent on 21.2.2004 10:30. At the very beginning she wrote: You mentioned this was a fairly large stack, as Rev goes. 5,500 cards is pretty much the limit in Rev. A stack this size will normally take a while to save. To be honest, this statement struck me like lightening. One of the HC stacks I use most often has more than 30 000 cards and stands at 5.9 MB. It is a dictionary which works flawlessly and as swift as I could wish in tandem with another stack containing text. As a matter of fact, it is still growing in size. In more than four years of frequently daily and intensive use, I had a single case of card corruption which, if I remember correctly, had to do with some mechanical mishap not with the operation of the stack itself. This problem was dealt with very easily. That's my experience with HC. Despite the size, despite different scripts in the stacks I develop for my research and also for teaching purposes (things like Chinese, Devanagari or Tibetan), these stacks are reliable and a joy to use. I am now thinking of moving to Rev and you mention 5500 cards come close to the limit. This is indeed very, very bad news for me. I rushed to check the Rev documentation and it says that the maximum number of objects in a stack is unlimited. Admittedly I'm getting confused. The stack in question has now 1.2 MB. Is this too much for Rev under OS X? I've also noticed that sometimes you have to move the cursor outside the window and back again before it will redraw, so the shape you see may not always tell you what the actual state is. Try moving the mouse to check, before resorting to a second save. I've done that. It didn't help. Since this is an imported HC stack, there may be other problems too. It is very important to compact the stack in HC at least twice in a row before importing it to Revolution, especially one this large. If the stack was not thoroughly compacted before import, there could be lots of extraneous junk in there that is slowing down the save process in Rev. This seems a likely culprit to me. I cannot imagine that this is the problem here. Years ago I learned through the HC list, I seem to remember even through some of your contributions, about the advantage of compacting twice in a row after sorting the cards of a stack. Since the stack in question here is another dictionary project of mine and needs to be sorted when new cards have been added, the sort button script includes double compact. The copy I opened in Rev was a sorted stack. Finally, try setting the HCAddressing property to false. You don't need it in Rev. I don't really think this will make all that much difference, but I usually do it anyway. It does affect some aspects of stack behavior sometimes, and you don't need it to be true when working in Revolution. I was not aware of this property and happily followed your suggestion. So far, saving works fine and hopefully stays that way. Thank you so much for your help. Fritz ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: # actually the short way returns an error / PARENTHESES
cool
t
On Feb 22, 2004, at 5:13 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
Tom,
According to Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket_(punctuation), the () [], {} and
are all considered to be brackets, but the common names are:
() Parentheses
[] Square Brackets
{} Braces
Angle Brackets
with alternate names as follows:
() Round Brackets, Curved Brackets, Parens, Fingernails
[] Crochets (in Great Britain, apparently)
{} Curly Brackets
Just FYI...
Ken Ray
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Carrot
{ Bracket }
[ Square Bracket ]
( Parenthesis )
\ Back Slash
/ Forward Slash
~ Tilde
All cool stuff
Tom
On Feb 22, 2004, at 3:36 AM, Malte Brill wrote:
What is the english name of these ?
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Re: Parentheses
:-) On Feb 22, 2004, at 6:42 PM, David Vaughan wrote: On 23/02/2004, at 9:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 23 February 2004 5:20:08 GMT+11:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PARENTHESES Reply-To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your right about the ^ being a caret/carrot. But what then are the left and right angle brackets called besides left and right brackets or less than/greater than??? any ideas??? The nearest to a formal name for left and right angle brackets is guillemet. Normally, these appear as and are used in European languages but the single form, a single guillement, is also used in typography. However, the guillemet is actually quite a bit smaller than the angle bracket used in most computer character sets while typographers also use a taller, less-angled version called well actually I don't know what that one is called (Tall Guillemet? Slim Guille?), so someone still has room to enlighten me. It seems perfectly good to me to keep calling them left and right angle brackets, or else you will sound like you are navigating in a rally for a manic in a Citroen. cheers David T ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: save dialogue stuck
You mentioned this was a fairly large stack, as Rev goes. 5,500 cards is pretty much the limit in Rev. A stack this size will normally take a while to save. To be honest, this statement struck me like lightening. One of the HC stacks I use most often has more than 30 000 cards and stands at 5.9 MB. ... I am now thinking of moving to Rev and you mention 5500 cards come close to the limit. This is indeed very, very bad news for me. I rushed to check the Rev documentation and it says that the maximum number of objects in a stack is unlimited. Admittedly I'm getting confused. The stack in question has now 1.2 MB. Is this too much for Rev under OS X? I just now created a new stack and ran a script to generate 30,000 cards that all have a shared group. Took about a minute or so to run. No problem here on OSX. lock screen;repeat for 3;create cd;end repeat;answer done Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Does anyone actually USE the Animation Builder?
But in my class, they still suck a bit in OS 9... Maybe not as much as in X, but still sucky IMHO... Judy On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Rob Cozens wrote: I also think this is an OSX only thing, It's generic to all Mac OS versions, AFAIK. Upon further testing, I'd like to retract that last statement. I remembered my animations as jumpy in Mac OS 9; however, compared to the same animation on OS 10.2, they are indeed much smoother. -- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: save dialogue stuck
On 2/22/04 10:03 PM, Friedrich F. Grohmann wrote: I am now thinking of moving to Rev and you mention 5500 cards come close to the limit. This is indeed very, very bad news for me. I rushed to check the Rev documentation and it says that the maximum number of objects in a stack is unlimited. Admittedly I'm getting confused. The stack in question has now 1.2 MB. Is this too much for Rev under OS X? No, not at all. I should explain more. There is no theoretical limit to the number of cards, and you can create as many cards as you like within the limitations of your hardware and RAM. There are two things, however, that make very large database stacks less practical in Revolution than they were in HyperCard. The first is that HyperCard is disk-based; you can have very large stacks that run in a very small amount of memory because each card loads as needed. Revolution loads the entire stack into RAM at once, which makes it run much faster, but which also requires that the user have as much RAM as the stack takes on disk (plus a little more for the engine.) It doesn't sound like memory is a problem yet with your stack, though. The second thing that is much different is the find command which is commonly used in HyperCard to search a card-based database. HC used its famous hint bits to create an incredibly fast search. Revolution does not use hint bits and Rev's card and field searching is noticeably slower than HyperCard's. This was the primary limitation I was talking about. If you are using typical HC search routines to look up words in your dictionary, you may find in very large stacks that the find command becomes too slow to be suitable. Under these conditions, it is usually recommended that MC/Rev be used as a front-end to a more traditional, dedicated database. However, if you are using a custom indexing routine rather than using find, you may be just fine. Scott Raney used to recommend that stacks not go above 3-5,000 cards or so before being moved to a more formal database. That isn't a hard number, just a suggestion. I always took it to mean that performance slowed enough after that to make a difference. Speed would also probably depend on how many objects and backgrounds are in the stack Finally, try setting the HCAddressing property to false. You don't need it in Rev. I don't really think this will make all that much difference, but I usually do it anyway. It does affect some aspects of stack behavior sometimes, and you don't need it to be true when working in Revolution. I was not aware of this property and happily followed your suggestion. So far, saving works fine and hopefully stays that way. So that made the delay go away? That's good to know. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
