Re: Open from Context Menu
The simplest way to accomplish this is the following... global fileToOpen on startup put $1 into fileToOpen end startup on openStack if fileToOpen is not empty then -- Insert the code you are using -- to open the file end if end openStack I hope this helps. Derek Bump Dreamscape Software Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com - Original Message - From: D.Rothe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:44 PM Subject: Re: Open from Context Menu Ok, When I start the app (as standalone) I can import/open and display a .txt file in a field by selecting it from a pulldown menu! Just like all text editors.. The problem is getting the .txt file to display in the field by sending it to my app via the right click 'Open with' method. Using this method starts the app but does not load the .txt file into the field! Cheers.Dwayne Hi Dwayne, Hi All, I created a simple textpad type application it's simple and works well for my purposes, however I am having trouble loading a txt file by using the right click 'Open with' method (win xp). Any ideas would be appreciated, it's certainly not a critical flaw but it would finish off the app 100%. what exactly is your problem??? Does the import fail or what or the way HOW to do the import? A tiny bit of info would help us to help you :-) Cheers Dwayne Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac Menubar Again...
Sarah Reichelt wrote: The Mac menus DO respond to the mouseDown, but they don't know which menu has been selected. If you have a mouseDown handler in the menubar's group, it will be triggered, but you will have to set ALL the menus at that point as you have no way of knowing which is going to be displayed. (In Mac's once the mouse button is clicked down in a menubar, it can be moved from side to side and will display any menus under the pointer.) That's true on Windows as well - position mouse over a menu item, depress the left button, move mouse side-to-side and different menus will appear/disappear. As that happens, mouseDown events are sent to the relevant menu buttons (Rev 2.5, WinXP). Sorry, don't have my Mac Mini yet, so I can't test it there -- Alex. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 19/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Font engines and antialiased vector graphics
Hi Developers, Probably this message belongs to the improve-list, but anyway... As many of you have already noticed, one of the areas of interest for me in computer programming are vector graphics. If my memory serves well, RunRev is planning for a future version of the engine include antialiased vector graphics and i hope that they include a font engine rendering (to have kerning pairs and justified text as well). Could the inclusion of both technologies (antialiased vectors and rendering font engine) in the engine, bring the total size of the single executable engine to more than 2 megabytes??? I'm asking this because just today, i had become aware of the four times size increase of the Macromedia Flash plug-in for web browser: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14266 From 103k to 588k... and i'm almost sure that much of these 483k increase come from the addition of Scripting to the swf format. But they have nice antialiased vector and font rendering since the beginning at only 103k... Could this means that in 200k or less, RunRev could add this capability to the engine Looking in the web, i found these websites about font rendering engines and antialiased graphics: http://www.typesolutions.com/ The source for the best font engine and font rasterizer technology! Founded in 1989 by Sampo Kaasila, lead engineer behind the TrueType technology while at Apple Computer, Inc. This is wholly-owned subsidiary of Bitstream Inc. http://www.freetype.org/index2.html FreeType 2 is a GLP software font engine small, efficient, highly customizable and portable. http://www.d-type.com/ Portable, high-performance and high-quality scalable font engine for smooth (anti-aliased) text If had to choose between antialised graphics and a font rendering engine, my choice is obvious: the font rendering engine... ;-) al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Same-size chunk replacements (was RunRev vs RealBasic)
I am interested in creating a 3D object viewer - and I was planning to write it in transcript. I have been researching the equations, and thinking about everything I can do to minimize processor time, including some schemes that would increase memory usage, but reduce computations. If I had to, I could write the math parts in VB, and try to create an external - but I would rather not. VB drives me nuts. This is just something I work on periodically, so at my present rate it would probably take me a number of months to get it done. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:26 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Same-size chunk replacements (was RunRev vs RealBasic) Dar Scott wrote: On Jan 19, 2005, at 11:33 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I did write some compositing and blur/sharpen filters in transcript some time ago, but I don't know the details of the 'same-size chunk' replacements. Where can I find more info? All I know is what Dar posted here, but it sounded really tasty. Apparently he made a suggestion to Scott Raney about ways to optimize operations in which a string of a given length is used to replace a substring of the same length within a larger chunk. In previous versions a very generalized approach was used for all replacement operations, requiring that the data be copied during the replacement, which can be computationally expensive with large chunks. Since the data being inserted is the same length as the data being removed the handle size doesn't change, allowing the operation to work in-place, without copying. IIRC, Raney reported that the new method should improve speed by roughly 4000 times for those cases. Dar - got the details for us? You got the important parts. For building a large string such as an image, the put-after command is fastest (1 or 2 microseconds on my Mac). So, if you are doing color shifting on an image, that is the best to go. put newPixel after imageSoFar But if you are putting a small image over a large image or drawing onto an image or doing something that needs random access or a change to only part, then use same-size put-into (6 microseconds on my Mac). put newPixel into char p to p+3 of imageSoFar This used to take very long on large images. Now both of these are small fixed time. (Well, there is a tiny growth time every once in a while for 'after' but it is only a microsecond on my computer, that is, it is fixed, too.) Anyway, use 'after' if you can, and make sure the chunk sizes match if you can't. This also very handy for binary arrays and matrices and such. I thought I had entered that as an enhancement into bugzilla, but either I goofed or it was changed. This is one of those things in which a fundamental enhancement or performance improvement might open the doors to a scripting solution to what is on folks' wish lists. Good info, thanks Dar. Chipp, does any of this apply to your image processing routines? Anyone else here interested in seeing if it's now feasible to write efficient image filters in native Transcript? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (Richard Gaskin)
It seems to me a more significant contest between the two systems would be to assign the same project to two very experienced developers with each development environment, and see who gets it finished quicker. I cannot imagine many situations where productivity is not of great significance. If a person can create a program in half the time of his competitors, he can afford to charge less to his clients, and still make a bigger profit. This is not to say that Real Basic is not a fast development environment - I honestly do not know that much about it one way or the other. I am just saying that this particular contest misses the point for like 99 out of 100 programming situations. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chipp Walters Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:48 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: RunRev vs RealBasic (Richard Gaskin) Hi David, A quick Google shows you're the product manager for Real Basic. Guess that sorta slipped your sig ;-) I certainly understand your desire to defend RB to the max. I followed closely the previous RB-RR thread, and don't recall it as you do. Perhaps we should discuss over lunch? (I'm in Austin, too!) -Chipp -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 1/17/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Offset with 'charstoskip' doesn't work? [was RunRev vs RealBasic (Richard Gaskin)]
I thought I would see if I could solve the RB/Rev/SC challenge and tried this as a first attempt: on mouseUp put fld 1 into sFld put fld 2 into tFld put into fld 3 -- put 0 into it --*1 put zero into t --*2 repeat with i= 1 to the number of lines in tFld repeat -- get offset(line i of tFld,sfld,it) --*1 get offset(line i of tFld,sfld,t) --*2 put it into t --*2 if it is zero then exit repeat put line i of tFldiitreturn after fld 3 end repeat end repeat end mouseUp but what happens is along the way it finds a search string in question at char 246674 and then finds it again at 250675 and then finds it again at 246674 then at 250675 then at 246674 then at 250675 ... Is offset not working or am I not? Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Offset with 'charstoskip' doesn't work? [was RunRev vsRealBasic (Richard Gaskin)]
Michael D Mays wrote: I thought I would see if I could solve the RB/Rev/SC challenge and tried this as a first attempt: on mouseUp put fld 1 into sFld put fld 2 into tFld put into fld 3 -- put 0 into it --*1 put zero into t --*2 repeat with i= 1 to the number of lines in tFld repeat -- get offset(line i of tFld,sfld,it) --*1 get offset(line i of tFld,sfld,t) --*2 put it into t --*2 if it is zero then exit repeat put line i of tFldiitreturn after fld 3 end repeat end repeat end mouseUp but what happens is along the way it finds a search string in question at char 246674 and then finds it again at 250675 and then finds it again at 246674 then at 250675 then at 246674 then at 250675 ... Is offset not working or am I not? It's you :-) When you do the second search, t already contains an 'skip' value; the result from the offset search is relative to that. So instead of put it into t you should do add it to t -- Alex. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 19/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opening custom files by Drag and Drop in standalone application
Hi Developers, Before sending an attachment to bugzilla, i want to recap the whole issue, for your additions, confirmations and corrections: Begin Report Problem: When i drag and drop a Rev or MC stack to a Windows standalone i had created, it opens the application and the stack dropped over the executable. Workaround: (posted by Frank D. Engels jr.) Under Windows, you would need to check the $1 variable when starting the standalone, if a stack is specified, close it right away, display an error message, and quit. (code tested by Alejandro Tejada) -- use this code in the card script -- of the first card in the mainstack -- of the standalone executable on startup lock messages -- by locking messages, you -- do not give permission to dropped stacks -- to execute any script... if $1 is not empty then answer Please, open this application by double clicking it's shorcut or the executable file and then drag and drop your file inside the application's open window or click the Open file button within the application window. quit end if end startup Problems of this workaround: (Ken Ray) The problem is that the document stack always displays before you can do anything about it, so it looks funky. (Alejandro Tejada) And your file association are rendered useless, because when you double click on a document associated to your standalone application, you trigguer this startup handler and your application only shows a message and close. End of Report What additional information needs this report? Richard Gaskin wrote: This is strange, as I'd thought the only way for an app to be able to open documents dropped on it is to assign acceptable file types to it in the Windows registry. If you're not making that registry entry how does the OS know to allow your app to accept drops of those files? Honestly, i don't know... but in Windows if i drop a stack over any executable created with MC or RR, the stack opens and the application is launched. Richard Gaskin wrote: Bugzilla has one of the ugliest UIs ever, but after a few posts it becomes acceptable. I'll give it a try. :-) al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Should Runtime Revolution have an accreditation course?
Just wondering... Would it be helpful for RunRev (or someone who works outside of RunRev but is approved by them) to offer an online Runtime Revolution training course. Those who take the course, and make an A in it, would then be officially accredited. I can see benefits and disadvantages for such a thing. What are y'alls thoughts? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: font engines
In a message dated 1/21/05 11:16:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.freetype.org/index2.html FreeType 2 is a GLP software font engine small, efficient, highly customizable and portable. -- I would love RR to support Freetype! Yes, a proper font engine is the tool to fix several font problems in RR. Andrew ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac Menubar Again...
Chipp, To each menubar group I add this function: on mouseDown UpdateMenus pass mouseDown end mouseDown where UpdateMenus is a handler that updates all the menus in the menubar group. And in each stack I have something similar to this (changing the stack name as needed), so that it updates the menus when a command/control key is used: on RawKeyDown if the short name of this stack contains List of Albums then if the commandKey is down then UpdateMenus end if end if pass RawKeyDown end RawKeyDown This seems to work fine on both Mac and Windows (but now that I think about it, I wonder if this gets called if you use the keyboard to browse a menu on Windows). -- Frank Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/ On Jan 21, 2005, at 4:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:03:57 +1000 From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mac Menubar Again... To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed The Mac menus DO respond to the mouseDown, but they don't know which menu has been selected. If you have a mouseDown handler in the menubar's group, it will be triggered, but you will have to set ALL the menus at that point as you have no way of knowing which is going to be displayed. (In Mac's once the mouse button is clicked down in a menubar, it can be moved from side to side and will display any menus under the pointer.) Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RAD contest...;-)
In a message dated 1/21/05 11:16:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems to me a more significant contest between the two systems would be to assign the same project to two very experienced developers with each development environment, and see who gets it finished quicker. -- I think after 20yrs...I should be able to make at least in FULL: 1. MacWrite 1.0 -- word processing 2. MacPaint 1.0 -- bitmap editing 3. MacDraw 1.0 -- vector editing 4. Excel 1.0 -- number processing In either RB or RR...so show me which RAD tool is up to the challage! :) Andrew ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Should Runtime Revolution have an accreditation course?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Accreditation is normally based on a test or a series of tests, not on any particular class or course. Various courses and classes are typically available as a preparation step, to help someone gain the knowledge and/or skills required to pass the test(s). For examples of some existing certification programs: http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/requirements.asp http://www.novell.com/training/certinfo/cna/index.html http://www.redhat.com/training/rhce/rhce_faq.html http://www.sun.com/training/certification/java/ On Jan 21, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: Just wondering... Would it be helpful for RunRev (or someone who works outside of RunRev but is approved by them) to offer an online Runtime Revolution training course. Those who take the course, and make an A in it, would then be officially accredited. I can see benefits and disadvantages for such a thing. What are y'alls thoughts? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFB8TD27aqtWrR9cZoRArFCAJ44v3Vy9U36PeZw25rInFqYFWi7pwCfSK8Q N+o5xmxZ3yG9LrtFc0vdwrY= =6xEu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Credit card processing
Since posting a related question back in early December, we've signed up with Authorize.net to use their card processing payment gateway. We need to get credit card information from our Rev application to Authorize.net and retrieve the results of the transaction back to our app. (We do not have the ability to do any of this from a standard browser. It all must all happen from within our Rev application.) Configuring the data fields and data stream Authorize needs is not difficult. The question is, how to establish and open the secure connection. The following information is from the Authorize.net implementation guide. Given this info, it seems we might need to use the Open Secure Socket and Encrypt commands to start the process, but we really have no idea of the syntax required. Also, how is an SSL certificate involved in this process? Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Richard Miller Imprinter Technologies -- How Does AIM Work? When using AIM, transactions flow in the following way: 1. The Merchants server initiates a secure connection to the payment gateway and then initiates an HTTPS POST of the transaction data to the gateway server 2. The payment gateway receives and processes the transaction data 3. The payment gateway then generates and submits the transaction response to the Merchants server 4. The Merchants server receives and processes the response 5. Finally, the Merchant prints a receipt and obtains the cardholders signature to complete the transaction What is Required to Implement AIM? Merchants must be able to perform the following functions in order to submit transactions to the gateway using AIM: 1. Establish a secure socket connection 2. Provide both server and client side encryption 3. Develop scripts on a Web server for the integration to the gateway (e.g., for submitting transaction data and receiving system responses) AIM Implementation To implement AIM, a developer would design a script that can do the following: 1. Securely obtain all of the information needed to process a transaction 2. Initiate a secure HTTPS form POST from the merchants server to: https://cardpresent.authorize.net/gateway/transact.dll 3. Receive the response from the gateway and process the response to display the appropriate result to the end user Note:For reasons of security, use only port 443 for AIM information transfers. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Offset with 'charstoskip' doesn't work? [was RunRev vsRealBasic (Richard Gaskin)]
On Jan 21, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Michael D Mays wrote: I thought I would see if I could solve the RB/Rev/SC challenge and tried this as a first attempt: on mouseUp put fld 1 into sFld put fld 2 into tFld put into fld 3 -- put 0 into it --*1 put zero into t --*2 repeat with i= 1 to the number of lines in tFld repeat -- get offset(line i of tFld,sfld,it) --*1 get offset(line i of tFld,sfld,t) --*2 put it into t --*2 if it is zero then exit repeat put line i of tFldiitreturn after fld 3 end repeat end repeat end mouseUp but what happens is along the way it finds a search string in question at char 246674 and then finds it again at 250675 and then finds it again at 246674 then at 250675 then at 246674 then at 250675 ... Is offset not working or am I not? It's you :-) When you do the second search, t already contains an 'skip' value; the result from the offset search is relative to that. So instead of put it into t you should do add it to t -- Alex. Someday I will read the complete description in the documentation all by myself.:) Thanks. But what is the advantage of returning the offset from the last offset rather than the offset from beginning? I think I do need to insert put zero into t after the first repeat and before the second repeat. Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Mouse move command ???
I'm slowly converting from VB 6.0 to REV. Billy boy has gave me too much problems well enuff about that. I need to know if there is a way to have a mouse move command in Rev. Let me explain I have a foto of Einstein and when I put my mouse on the foto (without clicking) a label pops up with information about the photo. Albert Einstein is born in Ulm (Germany) on March 14 1879, and died on April 18, 1955 at the age of 76, from a rupture of his aorta. When I move my mouse off the foto the label with the above information does a visible = false action. Can this be done in Rev? Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mouse move command ???
Hi Mr. Salyers, I'm slowly converting from VB 6.0 to REV. Billy boy has gave me too much problems well enuff about that. I need to know if there is a way to have a mouse move command in Rev. Let me explain I have a foto of Einstein and when I put my mouse on the foto (without clicking) a label pops up with information about the photo. Albert Einstein is born in Ulm (Germany) on March 14 1879, and died on April 18, 1955 at the age of 76, from a rupture of his aorta. It's the year of the Einstein, isn't it?! ;-) When I move my mouse off the foto the label with the above information does a visible = false action. Can this be done in Rev? Yes, but not with mousemove :-) Put this into the script of the image of Albert: on mouseenter show fld Info about Mr. Einstein #*** end mouseenter #***or whatever your field is named on mouseleave hide fld Info about Mr. Einstein end mouseleave Supposed you have the info in a field that you want to show... Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 16, Issue 64
I'm all for it. Sign me up! Cheers, Roger On Jan 21, 2005, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:30:18 -0500 From: Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Should Runtime Revolution have an accreditation course? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Just wondering... Would it be helpful for RunRev (or someone who works outside of RunRev but is approved by them) to offer an online Runtime Revolution training course. Those who take the course, and make an A in it, would then be officially accredited. I can see benefits and disadvantages for such a thing. What are y'alls thoughts? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mouse move command ???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You might also consider using a tooltip on the image object. On Jan 21, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Mr. Salyers, I'm slowly converting from VB 6.0 to REV. Billy boy has gave me too much problems well enuff about that. I need to know if there is a way to have a mouse move command in Rev. Let me explain I have a foto of Einstein and when I put my mouse on the foto (without clicking) a label pops up with information about the photo. Albert Einstein is born in Ulm (Germany) on March 14 1879, and died on April 18, 1955 at the age of 76, from a rupture of his aorta. It's the year of the Einstein, isn't it?! ;-) When I move my mouse off the foto the label with the above information does a visible = false action. Can this be done in Rev? Yes, but not with mousemove :-) Put this into the script of the image of Albert: on mouseenter show fld Info about Mr. Einstein #*** end mouseenter #***or whatever your field is named on mouseleave hide fld Info about Mr. Einstein end mouseleave Supposed you have the info in a field that you want to show... Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFB8TrX7aqtWrR9cZoRApJ1AJ4zhmtFHFFKS6Kh0JlfomFcwUmqvgCghGDu WTvteXRsgXF84cxAjFoEC7Q= =My8r -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
File Read/Write
Strange (to me): when using the write read to file the position for reading starts at 1.When using the 'open for update' I have to set it to 0 otherwise data cannot be written properly. Is this normal? Andre Rombauts on mouseUp put 1 into rec open file test.txt for binary write repeat 3 times write Line rec to file test.txt put rec + 1 into rec end repeat close file test.txt put 1 into rpos open file test.txt for binary read repeat 3 times put (rpos * 6) - 5 into readpos read from file test.txt at readpos for 6 chars put [ it ] after display put rpos + 1 into rpos end repeat close file test.txt put display into field Log put 1 into wpos open file test.txt for binary update repeat 3 times put (wpos * 6) - 6 into writepos write Sign wpos to file test.txt at writepos put wpos + 1 into wpos end repeat close file test.txt put 1 into rpos open file test.txt for binary read repeat 3 times put (rpos * 6) - 5 into readpos read from file test.txt at readpos for 6 chars put [ it ] after display put rpos + 1 into rpos end repeat close file test.txt put display into field Log end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Should Runtime Revolution have an accreditation course?
Hi Jonathan, Just wondering... Would it be helpful for RunRev (or someone who works outside of RunRev but is approved by them) to offer an online Runtime Revolution training course. Those who take the course, and make an A in it, would then be officially accredited. I can see benefits and disadvantages for such a thing. What are y'alls thoughts? Sounds great! I actualy thought of that some time ago, too... But to play the devil's advocate: Of what worth could such an accreditation be? I mean to whom might that be of value, except for the own ego, of course? ;-) Sorry, this is really hard to explain in a non-native language... Don't get me wrong, i like the idea! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Should Runtime Revolution have an accreditation course?
Hi Klaus :-) Hi Jonathan, Just wondering... Would it be helpful for RunRev (or someone who works outside of RunRev but is approved by them) to offer an online Runtime Revolution training course. Those who take the course, and make an A in it, would then be officially accredited. I can see benefits and disadvantages for such a thing. What are y'alls thoughts? Sounds great! I actualy thought of that some time ago, too... But to play the devil's advocate: Of what worth could such an accreditation be? I mean to whom might that be of value, except for the own ego, of course? ;-) Sorry, this is really hard to explain in a non-native language... Don't get me wrong, i like the idea! to start the discussion: That will become of (hopefuly great) general value, when Rev itself will gain more attention and accreditation in public and in the developer world! Which gives room for another big discussion... ;-) I do my best as an evangelist, but apparently that's not enough :-) Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Should Runtime Revolution have an accreditation course?
On Jan 21, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: Just wondering... Would it be helpful for RunRev (or someone who works outside of RunRev but is approved by them) to offer an online Runtime Revolution training course. Those who take the course, and make an A in it, would then be officially accredited. I can see benefits and disadvantages for such a thing. What are y'alls thoughts? man, just imagine I could make a Brazilian RunRev Trainning empire :D I have four copies of Dan Shafer's book in here and contact with 4 major tech magazines, including main macintosh magazine in Brazil (belive it or not, I used to make REALBasic tutorials for them after Rev, I asked if I could change the language for something I thought better, they said no cause of sponsorship.. I said, okay, find another writer. no tutorial was as fun as mine or as good for the newbies) I really wanted to organize something here, almost no one knows RunRev here... I thought about opening a stand during this years ExpoSALT (alternative computing expo, carries everything from c64, amigas, apples no PC/Win32 allowed). well just thoughts... andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Offset with 'charstoskip' doesn't work? [was RunRev vsRealBasic (Richard Gaskin)]
Michael D Mays wrote: But what is the advantage of returning the offset from the last offset rather than the offset from beginning? Don't know; I'd agree there are probably more cases where an overall answer would be more convenient, but I don't see that it makes any great difference. I can't think of any significant case where the relative result is easier to use. I think I do need to insert put zero into t after the first repeat and before the second repeat. Or just move the existing put zero into t from before the first repeat to immediately after it (before the second repeat) -- Alex. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 19/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: RAD contest...;-)
I should think that creating a word processing program in RR should not be a problem - nor would creating an excel like program. I am not sure there would be much value to doing so - since those programs already exist - but I think pretty much all of the standard functionalities found in those programs could be duplicated in RR, as well a host of other things they do not have. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:38 AM To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: RAD contest...;-) In a message dated 1/21/05 11:16:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems to me a more significant contest between the two systems would be to assign the same project to two very experienced developers with each development environment, and see who gets it finished quicker. -- I think after 20yrs...I should be able to make at least in FULL: 1. MacWrite 1.0 -- word processing 2. MacPaint 1.0 -- bitmap editing 3. MacDraw 1.0 -- vector editing 4. Excel 1.0 -- number processing In either RB or RR...so show me which RAD tool is up to the challage! :) Andrew ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: use-revolution Digest, Vol 16, Issue 64
How many RunRev users are there? Are there enough to make such a course practical? I would agree with Frank's comment - that it would make more sense to have the accreditation separate from the course. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Guay Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 12:15 PM To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 16, Issue 64 I'm all for it. Sign me up! Cheers, Roger On Jan 21, 2005, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:30:18 -0500 From: Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Should Runtime Revolution have an accreditation course? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Just wondering... Would it be helpful for RunRev (or someone who works outside of RunRev but is approved by them) to offer an online Runtime Revolution training course. Those who take the course, and make an A in it, would then be officially accredited. I can see benefits and disadvantages for such a thing. What are y'alls thoughts? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Should Runtime Revolution have an accreditation course?
Well - the accreditation would serve two purposes 1) excellent line on a resume 2) people seeking to achieve the accreditation would have to learn the program really well in order to get there. It would encourage them become knowledgable, and prove that they have done so. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Klaus Major Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 12:58 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Should Runtime Revolution have an accreditation course? Hi Jonathan, Just wondering... Would it be helpful for RunRev (or someone who works outside of RunRev but is approved by them) to offer an online Runtime Revolution training course. Those who take the course, and make an A in it, would then be officially accredited. I can see benefits and disadvantages for such a thing. What are y'alls thoughts? Sounds great! I actualy thought of that some time ago, too... But to play the devil's advocate: Of what worth could such an accreditation be? I mean to whom might that be of value, except for the own ego, of course? ;-) Sorry, this is really hard to explain in a non-native language... Don't get me wrong, i like the idea! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RAD contest...;-)
On Jan 21, 2005, at 4:17 PM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: I am not sure there would be much value to doing so - since those programs already exist - simply, build a good editor for our supported platforms like HP-UX and AIX and all those strange unix flavours Some users might really enjoy this -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Offset with 'charstoskip' doesn't work? [was RunRev vsRealBasic (Richard Gaskin)]
Michael D Mays wrote: Someday I will read the complete description in the documentation all by myself.:) Thanks. But what is the advantage of returning the offset from the last offset rather than the offset from beginning? I think I do need to insert put zero into t after the first repeat and before the second repeat. Sometimes I parse by removing things from the front, other times I leave things in place. The current scheme lets me do both as I choose. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: RAD contest...;-)
I know nothing about Unix :( But, I just created a stack that is basically a primitive word processor - it lets me create multiple page reports with text fields and pictures. The fields are scripted so that, for any given series of fields, the text autoflows from one field to the next, allowing an easy way to wrap text around pictures and to have non-contiguous articles. For a different app at my work I wrote a spellcheck. My windows printing script is, according to a developer friend of mine at work, a total hack - but it prints beautifully. With a few weeks of work, the same process I use for printing could be used to create complex pseudo-fields that allow character kerning, embedded wrappable pictures, and a few other tricks. Just starting with those simple elements, combined with progams others here have written, such as practical pixel-based drawing programs, it would only take a team of 4 or 5 Rev developers a few months effort to produce a word-processor that is competitive with MS-Word, but with added multi-media features. But - is there really value in reinventing the wheel? Is there really enough Unix/Linux users to make such an effort profitable? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andre Garzia Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 1:40 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: RAD contest...;-) On Jan 21, 2005, at 4:17 PM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: I am not sure there would be much value to doing so - since those programs already exist - simply, build a good editor for our supported platforms like HP-UX and AIX and all those strange unix flavours Some users might really enjoy this -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
SpecialFolderPath
the specialFolderPath of folderIdentifier specialFolderPath(folderIdentifier) specialFolderPath(Preferences) set the defaultFolder to specialFolderPath(documents) put specialFolderPath(asup) into appSupportFolder -- special constant I need help one last time. :) I found the above code on Rev doc-help section by searching for Special but as usually no coding help! can some1 help me with a small stack that will place an icon on the desk top to run the program from the current location. Thank you Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 16, Issue 64
A couple of perhaps prejudiced observations here. First, accreditation generally isn't credible unless it is issued by an independent third party testing organization. Having RunRev certify Rev developers would, in almost all real-world cases, be meaningless. Second, as the world of Java certification has shown, this is a seldom-used idea except by very large corporations looking for a no-brainer way to screen out applicants when there's an over-abundance of talent, a problem the Rev community does not now have is not likely ever to face. Finally, certification is really only helpful -- when it is at all -- to fairly newcomers to the game. Experienced programmers get their credibility by reference and demonstration of work done to date. I for one would not want to see RunRev spend any energy in this area with so many other things that we all need them to be doing. dan On Jan 21, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: How many RunRev users are there? Are there enough to make such a course practical? I would agree with Frank's comment - that it would make more sense to have the accreditation separate from the course. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Guay Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 12:15 PM To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 16, Issue 64 I'm all for it. Sign me up! Cheers, Roger On Jan 21, 2005, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:30:18 -0500 From: Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Should Runtime Revolution have an accreditation course? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Just wondering... Would it be helpful for RunRev (or someone who works outside of RunRev but is approved by them) to offer an online Runtime Revolution training course. Those who take the course, and make an A in it, would then be officially accredited. I can see benefits and disadvantages for such a thing. What are y'alls thoughts? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SpecialFolderPath
Paul Salyers wrote: the specialFolderPath of folderIdentifier specialFolderPath(folderIdentifier) specialFolderPath(Preferences) set the defaultFolder to specialFolderPath(documents) put specialFolderPath(asup) into appSupportFolder -- special constant I need help one last time. :) I found the above code on Rev doc-help section by searching for Special but as usually no coding help! Searching for specialFolderPath brought up this: -- For OS X systems: Desktop: The user's Desktop folder System: The active System Folder Fonts: The system Fonts folder Preferences: The Preferences folder inside the user's Library folder For Mac OS and OS X systems, you can also specify a four-character special folder constant as the folderIdentifier. You can find a list of these constants on the Apple web site at http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/Carbon/Files/FolderManager/Folder_Manager/folder_manager_ref/constant_6.html#//apple_ref/c/tdef/FolderType. Note: Some special folder constants are meaningful only on Mac OS or only on OS X but not both. Not all special folder constants work on all system versions. For Windows systems: Desktop: For icons on the desktop System: For system components Start: For items in the Start menu Documents: For user documents Fonts: For font storage Temporary: For storage of temporary files For Windows systems, you can also specify a CSIDL number that identifies a special folder. You can find a list of available CDISL values on the Microsoft web site at http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/shell/reference/enums/csidl.asp. Note: The CSIDL numbers are provided in hexadecimal notation, so you'll need to use the baseConvert function to translate them into decimal numbers to use them with the specialFolderPath function. For example, the CSIDL number of the My Music folder is hexadecimal 0x000d. The expression baseConvert(0x000d,16,10) is equal to 13, the number in decimal notation, so you use 13 as the folderIdentifier to obtain the location of the My Music folder. Note: Not all CSIDL numbers work on all Windows versions. - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RAD contest...;-)
Lynch, Jonathan wrote: But - is there really value in reinventing the wheel? Is there really enough Unix/Linux users to make such an effort profitable? ...and who aren't already using Open Office, or Think Free Office, or any of the others? That Rev and other tools are used to develop professional applications has already been proven, many times over every month. In every trollfest on every list for every product, there is inevitably one point or another in favor of each tool. And still, people use the tool they prefer, and their preference is driven by a much wider range of factors rarely related to someone else's decision to waste their own time replicating office suites. :) One of the reasons I find these sorts of threads tedious is that they tend to be as lengthy as they are fruitless. Posts in which someone migrating to Rev from another tool asks questions of how to do something they're used to doing differently are useful, but the ol' my tool is better than your tool gambit less so. If someone here were to misrepresnt RB by saying it costs a thousand dollars or some such silliness, I would expect that product manager to correct the claim if no one here did. But perpetuating pissing matches over hair-splitting tedium rarely accomplishes more than annoyance for the reader and Google fodder for the other vendor. A far better use of time might be to ship apps. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: SpecialFolderPath
Here is a script I use for a project I am working on... I commented out the part that sets the registry so that the progam runs automatically upon computer startup. Even still, you would probably need to tweak it a bit to work for your program. On Mouseup put the filename of this stack into thisapp put the filename of this stack into thisfilespath replace / with \ in thisapp --get setregistry(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersio n\Run\Newsautoload, thisapp) --put Autoload into field Registry Status --send savesettings to this stack create alias (specialfolderpath(start) / CDC News Autoload.lnk) to file (thisfilespath) create alias (specialfolderpath(desktop) / CDC News Autoload.lnk) to file (thisfilespath) get setRegistry(HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.cna\,Autoload daily newsletter) get setRegistry(HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Autoload daily newsletter\DefaultIcon\,thisfilespath) get setRegistry(HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Autoload daily newsletter\shell\open\command\,thisfilespath) end mouseup -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Salyers Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 2:06 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: SpecialFolderPath the specialFolderPath of folderIdentifier specialFolderPath(folderIdentifier) specialFolderPath(Preferences) set the defaultFolder to specialFolderPath(documents) put specialFolderPath(asup) into appSupportFolder -- special constant I need help one last time. :) I found the above code on Rev doc-help section by searching for Special but as usually no coding help! can some1 help me with a small stack that will place an icon on the desk top to run the program from the current location. Thank you Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SpecialFolderPath
For Windows systems, you can also specify a CSIDL number that identifies a special folder. You can find a list of available CDISL values on the Microsoft web site at http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/shell/reference/enum s/csidl.asp. Even easier is to use my tips page that lists them all for you, both for OS X and for Windows: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/revolution.htm?_file010 :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
xml demo not working
Hi all. I'm looking at sarah's xmldemo and when I click on load I get this error. executing at 8:29:00 PM TypeHandler: can't find handler Object Close LinerevDeleteAllXMLTrees HintrevDeleteAllXMLTrees Now when I look at the script for the load button I see -- load any XML file into memory, creating a tree and displaying the tree, -- the XML text and the root tag, beofre going to the Edit tab -- on mouseUp local tFileName, tData, tDocID -- tidy up any old trees first send mouseUp to btn Close The button close has a script on mouseUp revDeleteAllXMLTrees put empty into fld DocID put empty into fld Tree put empty into fld XML put empty into fld RootTag put empty into fld Tag put empty into fld Data put empty into fld Element put empty into fld ElementEdit put empty into fld ElementAdd put empty into fld NewData put empty into fld Attributes set the menuHistory of btn Tabs to 1 end mouseUp And this declares and error as well. Any ideas using xmldemo1.rev cheers bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 16/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RAD contest...;-)
On 22/01/2005, at 4:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me a more significant contest between the two systems would be to assign the same project to two very experienced developers with each development environment, and see who gets it finished quicker. -- I think after 20yrs...I should be able to make at least in FULL: 1. MacWrite 1.0 -- word processing 2. MacPaint 1.0 -- bitmap editing 3. MacDraw 1.0 -- vector editing 4. Excel 1.0 -- number processing Richard's comment on productivity was intended to focus on tasks typically facing professional developers rather than on artificial contests. It is indeed important that you can process words, bitmaps, vectors and numbers but a contest involving creating new, complete applications in each of these fields is hardly relevant to the daily needs of most people on this list or of the customers they serve. I can see next that this discussion would descend into a feature contest in each of the specific areas; again, not what Richard intended. Let's drop it. As for Mr Grogono, a man who on my reading can deny and then admit the same thing in a single paragraph, he might recall that a predecessor in his company when writing to this list had the courage to sign his messages in full rather than restrict the information to his e-mail address. I doubt that either Mr Rivers or Mr Grogono actually achieved anything by their writing other than a change of employment for the first gentleman. Perhaps Mr Grogono is looking for a job ;-) regards David In either RB or RR...so show me which RAD tool is up to the challage! :) Andrew ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: xml demo not working
At 20:42 21/01/2005, you wrote: Hi all. I'm looking at sarah's xmldemo and when I click on load I get this error. Ohhh this is getting weird It then started to work and not it doesn't. If I load the demo then hit the button to go to page 2 of the tutorial it will go to that page. MNote (1) But if I then go back and star the xml constructor I get an error. Then if I try to go to the tutorial (usingthe same button that worked in note (1)) there is an error? WinXP latestSP and all updates, latest rev studio 2,5. cheers bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 16/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
valentina and rev
HI all. OK here is a rant. I was on the apple store site the other day looking at a mac mini. I noticed that they sell realbasic but not rev. I have been looking at valentina and they mention real basic and lots of other scenarios where you can use valentina but not rev. Should this dev env not be plugging itself to these people? Cheers Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 16/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
some pre-shots on my new app...
Hi Folks, I am building a new version of my DataJr app which is used on the Marketing and Advertising Superior School of Rio De Janeiro (it's a university) to track their contacts and manage their projects. It's database independent, you can tie it to Valentina, MySQL, Oracle, whatever works with revDatabase. I think it's going nice... also it sports a nice Instant Messaging feature... I am posting some links to shots here so that people could give some feedback. I am still glueing the new interface to the routines so there are lots of placeholder controls without data for now. http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr03.png http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr04.png http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr05.png http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr06.png Since reusing code in Rev is so cool and easy, I almost don't have to write anything, it's just a matter of binding the old script to the new controls... I plan to make a generic version of this app and put it to sale online. Cheers andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Office Software
Richard's earlier comment got me to wondering... My use of Rev is for a few specialized situations, and I am largely ignorant of the various office software programs out there. After he mentioned OpenOffice I went online to read about it. Apparently it is free for customers, although Sun paid like $60-million for it! I looked up user comments on groups.google, and it seems that OpenOffice is not quite as polished as MS Office, and probably will not be serious competition for at least a few more development releases. That seems kind of lame to me - I mean, for an investment of $60-million, surely a competitive quality of software could be created? But then again, I understand little about the software market. I have two questions for the folks on this list experienced with both writing and selling software: 1) Is it really that difficult to create basic office software? 2) Why does it cost so much? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: some pre-shots on my new app...
Andre- (B (BThat looks fantastic! The only (very picky) suggestion I have is with the (Binstant messenger (http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr03.png). (BYou may want a space or two between the speaker and what is being said. (BNow it looks like "andre:hey hey hey!". Maybe have it look like "andre: (Bhey hey hey!". Other than that, everything looks really polished. (B (BCheers...James (B (B (B (B (B (BAndre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BSent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B01/21/05 04:50 PM (BPlease respond to How to use Revolution (B (BTo: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com (Bcc: (BSubject:some pre-shots on my new app... (B (B (BHi Folks, (B (BI am building a new version of my DataJr app which is used on the (BMarketing and Advertising Superior School of Rio De Janeiro (it's a (Buniversity) to track their contacts and manage their projects. It's (Bdatabase independent, you can tie it to Valentina, MySQL, Oracle, (Bwhatever works with revDatabase. I think it's going nice... also it (Bsports a nice Instant Messaging feature... (B (BI am posting some links to shots here so that people could give some (Bfeedback. I am still glueing the new interface to the routines so there (Bare lots of placeholder controls without data for now. (B (Bhttp://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr03.png (Bhttp://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr04.png (Bhttp://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr05.png (Bhttp://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr06.png (B (BSince reusing code in Rev is so cool and easy, I almost don't have to (Bwrite anything, it's just a matter of binding the old script to the new (Bcontrols... I plan to make a "generic" version of this app and put it (Bto sale online. (B (BCheers (Bandre (B (B-- (BAndre Alves Garzia ? 2004 (BSoap Dog Studios - BRAZIL (Bhttp://studio.soapdog.org (B___ (Buse-revolution mailing list (Buse-revolution@lists.runrev.com (Bhttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution (B___ (Buse-revolution mailing list (Buse-revolution@lists.runrev.com (Bhttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: valentina and rev
Yep, I agree. It's especially interesting when RR last year spent valuable resources sending R Gaskin and yours truly to man a booth at the Mac Developer conference at the bequest of Apple. And after arriving, finding no RB presence at all. --Chipp Bob Hartley wrote: HI all. OK here is a rant. I was on the apple store site the other day looking at a mac mini. I noticed that they sell realbasic but not rev. I have been looking at valentina and they mention real basic and lots of other scenarios where you can use valentina but not rev. Should this dev env not be plugging itself to these people? Cheers Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 1/17/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Office Software
On Jan 21, 2005, at 7:55 PM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: 1) Is it really that difficult to create basic office software? 2) Why does it cost so much? Jonathan, to create a huge mammoth (is this how one spell big-prehistoric-elephant in english?) like an Office app is not a task for a single person Man, just think about the thousands of features that you don't use... then wonder about the thousand of features you don't even know The word processor task... imagine the code to manage one single document! those things are not HTML they are more complex than that... now wonder about SPREADSHEETit take years and a team to create a simple one now, integrate the whole office I would not know how to begin a project like this. I think thats why there are special developer teams doing this kind of thing for years. don't know, for me it's just to big. andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev vs RealBasic (Richard Gaskin)
Chipp Walters wrote: Hi David, A quick Google shows you're the product manager for Real Basic. Guess that sorta slipped your sig ;-) I certainly wasn't trying to hide my affiliation and I did use my REAL Software email address. I tend not to use a signature very often although it would probably be a good habit to get into. I certainly understand your desire to defend RB to the max. I followed closely the previous RB-RR thread, and don't recall it as you do. Before posting to this list I wanted to confirm my recollection and read original messages from both the RunRev and REALbasic mailing lists. Perhaps we should discuss over lunch? (I'm in Austin, too!) Sounds good - feel free to contact me off list. Best regards, David ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Office Software
Yeah but... And again, I am not advocating that any of us bother creating a competitive word processor in Rev, because I see little point in re-inventing the wheel unless there is some sort of clear advantage the software can deliver... But... Using Rev, most of these types of programs would not be that difficult. I understand that the reason for that is because Rev does most of the hard stuff for you. A spreadsheet, for example, may be complex in terms of defining the cells and such - but if you already have the code worked out for defining a field, it cannot too big of a jump to defining a cell. As for features - do they really have thousands? I am pretty skilled with using both MS Word and MS Excel. It doesn't seem like they contain thousands of features - but maybe I am just not appreciating everything they can do. In my humble opinion, it seems that the problem must be that these programs are being essentially built from scratch. If they were designed using a single starting point, with all the basic components ready to use, then they could be created much more efficiently. Think about it - for $65-million, don't you think a team of experienced Rev developers could create a suite that would blow the pants off of MS office? All hypothetical, of course. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andre Garzia Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 5:28 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Office Software On Jan 21, 2005, at 7:55 PM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: 1) Is it really that difficult to create basic office software? 2) Why does it cost so much? Jonathan, to create a huge mammoth (is this how one spell big-prehistoric-elephant in english?) like an Office app is not a task for a single person Man, just think about the thousands of features that you don't use... then wonder about the thousand of features you don't even know The word processor task... imagine the code to manage one single document! those things are not HTML they are more complex than that... now wonder about SPREADSHEETit take years and a team to create a simple one now, integrate the whole office I would not know how to begin a project like this. I think thats why there are special developer teams doing this kind of thing for years. don't know, for me it's just to big. andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
XML library
Could anybody tell me where the XML library is located in the Rev IDE? The XMLRPC library is right there in the revlibrary stack, but the XML library? Thanks in advance! Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Office Software
Lynch, Jonathan wrote: Using Rev, most of these types of programs would not be that difficult. I understand that the reason for that is because Rev does most of the hard stuff for you. A spreadsheet, for example, may be complex in terms of defining the cells and such - but if you already have the code worked out for defining a field, it cannot too big of a jump to defining a cell. Ah, but the devil is in the details. So many of them in an Office Suite... Think about it - for $65-million, don't you think a team of experienced Rev developers could create a suite that would blow the pants off of MS office? Heck, me and two friends will do it for $3 million, a huge cost savings and the highest margins I've ever had. :) And as RevNet and others demonstrate, AOL could save boatloads of cash by tossing whatever crippled beast they're currently using to make their AOL client and using Rev instead. If you schedule the meeting with Sun or AOL, I'll be there. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: some pre-shots on my new app...
Bom dias, oh sorry buenos dias Andre ;-) Hi Folks, I am building a new version of my DataJr app which is used on the Marketing and Advertising Superior School of Rio De Janeiro (it's a university) to track their contacts and manage their projects. It's database independent, you can tie it to Valentina, MySQL, Oracle, whatever works with revDatabase. I think it's going nice... also it sports a nice Instant Messaging feature... I am posting some links to shots here so that people could give some feedback. I am still glueing the new interface to the routines so there are lots of placeholder controls without data for now. http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr03.png http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr04.png http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr05.png http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr06.png Since reusing code in Rev is so cool and easy, I almost don't have to write anything, it's just a matter of binding the old script to the new controls... I plan to make a generic version of this app and put it to sale online. Muito lindo!!! You guy never fail to astonish us with your work!!! :-) Good to know you are back on the road after your injury and insufficient acces to the net ;-) Cheers andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org Adeus, meu amigo... Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de P.S. PAALM! :-D Sorry, private joke! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Changing the contents of a custom property
I have a custom property called connectorName that currently has the following contents darpa nrl hsecurity I am trying to figure out how I can delete one or more than one of the contents via script. Also, how to add new content via script. Is there an example stack available? thanks, Glen ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Changing the contents of a custom property
Hi Glen, put the connectorName of fld myFld into tList delete line 2 of tList put cr darpa2 after tList set the connectorName of fld myFld to tList Glen Bojsza wrote: I have a custom property called connectorName that currently has the following contents darpa nrl hsecurity I am trying to figure out how I can delete one or more than one of the contents via script. Also, how to add new content via script. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 1/17/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Changing the contents of a custom property
Hi Glen, I have a custom property called connectorName that currently has the following contents darpa nrl hsecurity I am trying to figure out how I can delete one or more than one of the contents via script. No need for an extra stack ;-) on mouseup put the connectorName of xyz into tempCP delete line 1 of tempCP ## delete whatever you want... set the connectorName of xyz to tempCP end mouseup Also, how to add new content via script. No need for an extra stack ;-) on mouseup put the connectorName of xyz into tempCP if tempCP = empty then put New line into tempCP else put CR New line after tempCP end if set the connectorName of xyz to tempCP end mouseup Is there an example stack available? See above. thanks, You're welcome. Glen Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: some pre-shots on my new app...
Very pretty Andre! Since I don't read Spanish (?Portugese?), it's a little hard for me to comment on the functionality of the interface, but the eye candy certainly is wonderful :-)) Marian On Jan 21, 2005, at 4:50 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Hi Folks, I am building a new version of my DataJr app which is used on the Marketing and Advertising Superior School of Rio De Janeiro (it's a university) to track their contacts and manage their projects. I am posting some links to shots here so that people could give some feedback. -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Synchronization puzzle.
[ slightly OT - this is a design / algorithm question rather than a Rev/xtalk one, really ] [and it's a long, rambling email - so feel free to skip it] I am in the process of writing my own Address Book application. That may sound like an odd thing to do : aren't there already hundreds of programs to do that already ? isn't there an address book built into the OS and/or major apps ? can't you get everything from freeware to professional apps to do that ? what's wrong with the software that came with your Palm Pilot (or PDA, or Pocket PC, or ) why re-invent the wheel ? The reason that none of them quite satisfies my needs is simple - I want a shared address book, between myself, my wife and various other family members. There need to be up to 8 different computers running this application - all of them on a network, but never all on the same network. There are two separate home networks, plus maybe a server on a web-site somewhere so I can use it from anywhere with an Internet connection; the 3 laptops will intermittently appear on one or other network. Any person can make updates to the address book, and I want a simple way to synchronize those changes on to the other instances of the app. What I've been doing until recently was using the Palm Desktop software that came with my Palm Pilot on each machine; periodically I would sync the Palm Desktop to my Palm Pilot, then re-connect the Pilot to another machine and sync there, then to another, then . which all worked OK, though it's a bit of a drag connecting the Pilot to the serial port of each machine in turn. And it just seems crazy when they're connected together by 100M Ethernet :-) But now the two newest machines don't have a traditional serial port, only USBs. So I have the choice of spending £29.95 for a cable or tens (hundreds) of hours writing software - no competition :-) I looked at using the Palm database, and simply (??) writing an app to sync databases - but the combination of incomplete documentation on the format (not to mention its complexity) and concern that I might conflict with Palm's synchronization technique has put me off that. I should mention that I never (or very, very rarely) actually use the Palm Pilot for anything other than this synch'ing effort. The Palm Pilot is almost never carried around; it has, for me, been squeezed out of its niche by my laptop one one side and my cell phone with its 100+ phone numbers and storage for many SMS messages on the other. (I sometime text myself an address or directions if I think I'm likely to need it and won't be taking the laptop - or occasionally even use pen+paper !!) What I'm looking for, then, is a method to do peer-to-peer synchronization between an undefined number of instances of the address database. I've got a design, I've thought it through as much as I can, I've done dry-runs on paper to check it works, I've implemented it and tested it - but I'm still concerned that I've missed something, and that it will fail in some circumstances. Here's the relevant section of my design document (i.e. transcription of the scribbling on the back of an envelope); I'd be very grateful for any comments, corrections, etc. On the other hand, if there is some standard technique or algorithm for doing this, and I just didn't know about it (and couldn't find it in a Google search), then a pointer to a good description would be also very useful. --- Synchronization. All synchs are user-triggered - i.e. a user on one machine will trigger a sync to another machine; the user is available to resolve anyh conflicts immediately) or she can choose to postpone that part of the synchronization until later. The two machines must be networked together at the time of a sync. That sync can use any of: - shared file systems (e.g. laptop to file server) - http request / post (e.g. laptop to web site) - TCP based connection (e.g. laptop to laptop while on same network). (I don't export the filesystems on the laptops, nor do I run http server on them, so the plan is that each machine can run a address-book-sync server that will accept TCP connections on some odd port, and transfer data that way). The fundamental sync algorithm is the same in each case; the description below is written as though the synching machine had complete access to the 'other' address files. The optimizations possible to avoid complete transfer of the data should be apparent - but in fact for my address book, the whole file is probably never going to be above 100K, so it's not clear if those optimizations are worth the implementaion effort. Time synchronization. It cannot be assumed that the clocks of the different computers are in sync, even approximately. It can (and will) be assumed that each computer's clock will return times that are continuously increasing. (Yes, I do know about NTGP, and SNTP, and TSP, and various other
Re: some pre-shots on my new app...
Andre Garzia wrote: Hi Folks, I am building a new version of my DataJr app which is used on the Marketing and Advertising Superior School of Rio De Janeiro (it's a university) to track their contacts and manage their projects. It's database independent, you can tie it to Valentina, MySQL, Oracle, whatever works with revDatabase. I think it's going nice... also it sports a nice Instant Messaging feature... I am posting some links to shots here so that people could give some feedback. I am still glueing the new interface to the routines so there are lots of placeholder controls without data for now. http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr03.png http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr04.png http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr05.png http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/DataJR/DataJr06.png Looks great, Andre. Good job! BTW: I see you typed the screen shot command in the Message Box -- if you get tired of typing, since you're using devolution you can use its Camera utility in the Tools menu. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Synchronization puzzle.
Why bother with sync at all? That looks like a nightmare! Are all your workstations internet-connected? Why not create a MYSQL database and any number of clients made in Rev to talk to it. Most good ISPs offer it. All data will be real-time - no copies needed. Very simple. [ slightly OT - this is a design / algorithm question rather than a Rev/xtalk one, really ] [and it's a long, rambling email - so feel free to skip it] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RAD contest...;-)
David Vaughan wrote: As for Mr Grogono, a man who on my reading can deny and then admit the same thing in a single paragraph, If you'd like me to clarify anything I said please contact me off list as I'd rather not add clutter here. If after contacting me off list you'd like me to also clarify it on this list I'd be happy to do so. he might recall that a predecessor in his company when writing to this list had the courage to sign his messages in full rather than restrict the information to his e-mail address. This has nothing to do with courage. As I stated in my previous reply to Chipp I tend not to use signatures. Since my current signature (when I choose to use it) advertises both REAlbasic and the upcoming REAlbasic User Conference it seemed inappropriate to use it on this list when I rarely use it on our own lists. Best regards, David Grogono ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Synchronization puzzle.
Stephen Barncard wrote: Why bother with sync at all? That looks like a nightmare! Because I need it. Are all your workstations internet-connected? No. Some of them are some of the time, but in general they're not. And it's not acceptable to be unable to make edits when they're not connected. I think any delayed update of a central database finishes up being equivalent to this problem - there is a small gain from being able to know that there is a single central master version, but it's a pretty small difference. Why not create a MYSQL database and any number of clients made in Rev to talk to it. Most good ISPs offer it. Yeah, all 3 of the ones I use offer MySQL (and CGI scripts if I needed that). All data will be real-time - no copies needed. Very simple. Simple, but not applicable. If enough of them were connected enough of the time, I'd probably do as you suggested, with a local cache inside the Rev app on each machine - but unfortunately that's not the situation I face. Thanks anyway -- Alex. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 19/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Synchronization puzzle.
I wrote: [ slightly OT - this is a design / algorithm question rather than a Rev/xtalk one, really ] [and it's a long, rambling email - so feel free to skip it] You just can't get good staff these days :-) My typist (that's me) missed a crucial sentence or two when transferring hand-written notes to email. same ID. compare 'last-events' : same : everything is good, advance both current counters. different - but the last-event machine is the same take whichever entry has the later edit time (note - from same machine, so they can be compared), and add to the other database advance both counters different - and different machines: if my 'ID + last-event' is in his history database - his entry is later ACTION : add his entry to my database OR if his 'ID+last-event' is in my history database - my entry is later ACTION: add my entry to his database if all data fields are identical - skip, no action needed. there is no way to tell which is later - user needs to resolve differences, or postpone. then advance both counters. I should have just sent the code . -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 19/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XML Library
I think it's found as 'revXML.bundle' for MacOS and 'revXML.dll' for Windows in the 'components' folder inside the revolution folder... Is that what you mean? Cheers, Mark Could anybody tell me where the XML library is located in the Rev IDE? The XMLRPC library is right there in the revlibrary stack, but the XML library? Thanks in advance! Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revdb and ODBC (a hint)
Hi All, As I was up early, I finally got around to reinstalling Office2K on my Win2K machine (in order to get MSQuery back in a working state), and decided to check why I couldn't connect to my Progress database from Revolution. (Bugzilla # 2438) After connecting from Excel to make sure that, yes indeed, I could connect perfectly fine from there, I took a peek at the actual SQL that Excel sent to the ODBC driver -- and noticed that Excel had prefixed the name of the table with PUB. And sure enough, when I used the Database Query Builder, connected and then entered the query as : SELECT * FROM PUB.Customer There were no complaints from the ODBC driver. I hooked up a few fields and buttons, and lo-and-behold, I could see the data just fine. Conclusion 1: if something with ODBC fails, and Excel works fine, check out what monstrous SQL it has produced, and glean useful information out of it. Conclusion 2: if revdb_tablenames could be fixed to work properly with ODBC and subsequently documented, life would be much easier for those people that use databases for which there are no native drivers. Hope this helped someone, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam - Tools for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Send SMS with a mobile phone
I wrote a rev-application to send SMS . At the moment I send a post to a web-server and the server send the message. It works but I need an account on the server and an internet connection. I wonder how can I send SMS directly from my computer using a mobile phone (with an ordinary SIM) or some other appliances connected to my computer. Have you a hint about that? Best regards, Paolo Mazza ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
