Application suspending after a window closes in 2.7.x
I seem to remember a thread somewhere regarding this subject, but can't find it. Was it Trevor who was noticing that frequently in XP when a window closes, the application is suspended and another window is brought to the front? This happens religiously on a couple of my apps and is disconcerting to say the least. How are other users out there handling this? TIA, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
2.7+ and backdrops?
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Re: can't display text from file
Thank you. This helps...
On 10/30/06, Jim Ault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 10/30/06 10:25 PM, "Libby Huber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am trying to run a program created using Runtime Revolution 2.5 but I
> cannot get my stack to display text from file in a designated field. I
have
> compared my scripts (open and read file commands) to other working
stacks,
> and I have also successfully opened my text file using another stack.
But I
> cannot get the stack I have created to display items from my file. The
stack
> and file are saved in a folder together, and I've checked the filepath
> repeatedly.
>
> Any suggestions?
--try one of the below techniques to discover the 'glich'
if you are using the form I use almost all the time:
put varA into url ("file:"&myRootfolder()&"savedData.txt")
function myRootfolder
get the filename of this stack
set the itemDel to "/"
return (item 1 to -2 of it)
end myRootfolder
--or
if not there is a folder fullPathEyeWant then answer "oops "& cr &
fullPathEyeWant
--or
Try to write a string "some enchanted evening" to the path you have
specified, then immediately read it back into a variable.
--or
answer file "the file I want"
put it into fullPathEyeChose
put fullPathEyeChose &cr& fullPathEyeWant into msg
put cr & ( fullPathEyeChose is fullPathEyeWant) after msg
--or
make sure the file is not empty
Hope this helps.
Jim Ault
Las Vegas
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[OT] Humor
The following is not intended to be humorous, but happened: Attending a lecture on Visual Basic at the University of Abertay, Dundee, I got so bored I took out a slide-rule I always carry for those moments. The lecturer (who was at least my age - 44) did not know what it was and told me to leave because; "You are wasting your time playing with toys". Needless to say, I was more than happy to be excused from a compulsory lecture explaining about subroutines. AND . . . after the bomb goes up, I will live in paradise with my slide-rule :) love, Richmond I have just read and signed the online petition: "Hinge & Bracket" hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/HandB/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Richmond Mathewson Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Are there any arrow buttons?
Scott Rossi wrote: "This behavior is a fundamental Revolution behavior -- you really should learn to harness its power rather than dismissing it as too much trouble." You are probably right. One of the things I really like about RR/MC is that it allows programmers with different styles and ways of thinking to achieve things in a multiplicity of ways. My previous message was my opinion re backgrounds - I am not (thank God) some high-heidyin handing down judgements and rulings from on high. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson I have just read and signed the online petition: "Hinge & Bracket" hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/HandB/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Richmond Mathewson ___ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE Loading a button with Time
WOW ! John Craig's script made mine look STINKY !! I made a couple changes to
it to suit my needs. It now formats the contents to load dirrectly into a
cascading style pull down button so it is easy to select the time you want. I
reformated the script to span 24 hours and maintain a military 0800 style
format. This will make it easy to quickly change the increments. Some
agencies round to the quarter hour and others to the 5 or 10 minute mark so
very cool. Thanks John ! Here is the revised script. Uses three fields to
spec the operation and a pull down menu button which gets loaded with 288 lines
of time increments spanning from to 2400 hrs .
Field "Start1" = 0:05 AM, "end1" = 11:55 pm , "Int1" = 5
the pull down menu is "Time Menu"
Put the script below into the "Load" button script
on mouseUp
put fld "start1" into tStart
put fld "end1" into tEnd
put fld "int1" into tInterval
put empty into tData
convert tStart to dateItems
convert tEnd to dateItems
put item 4 of tStart * 60 + item 5 of tStart into tStartSecs
put item 4 of tEnd * 60 + item 5 of tEnd into tEndSecs
put tStartSecs into tSecs
repeat while tSecs <= tEndSecs
put tSecs into tTime
convert tTime from seconds to dateItems
put item 5 of tTime into tHour
put item 6 of tTime into tMin
if tdata <> empty then put return after tdata
if the number of chars of tHour < 2 then put "0" & tHour into tHour
if tMin is "00" then put tHour & ":" & format ("%02d", tMin) & return after
tdata
put tab & tHour & ":" & format ("%02d", tMin) after tData
add tInterval to tSecs
end repeat
put return & tab & "24:00" after tData
put tData into button "Time Menu"
end mouseUp
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Re: can't display text from file
On 10/30/06 10:25 PM, "Libby Huber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am trying to run a program created using Runtime Revolution 2.5 but I
> cannot get my stack to display text from file in a designated field. I have
> compared my scripts (open and read file commands) to other working stacks,
> and I have also successfully opened my text file using another stack. But I
> cannot get the stack I have created to display items from my file. The stack
> and file are saved in a folder together, and I've checked the filepath
> repeatedly.
>
> Any suggestions?
--try one of the below techniques to discover the 'glich'
if you are using the form I use almost all the time:
put varA into url ("file:"&myRootfolder()&"savedData.txt")
function myRootfolder
get the filename of this stack
set the itemDel to "/"
return (item 1 to -2 of it)
end myRootfolder
--or
if not there is a folder fullPathEyeWant then answer "oops "& cr &
fullPathEyeWant
--or
Try to write a string "some enchanted evening" to the path you have
specified, then immediately read it back into a variable.
--or
answer file "the file I want"
put it into fullPathEyeChose
put fullPathEyeChose &cr& fullPathEyeWant into msg
put cr & ( fullPathEyeChose is fullPathEyeWant) after msg
--or
make sure the file is not empty
Hope this helps.
Jim Ault
Las Vegas
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can't display text from file
Hi all, I am trying to run a program created using Runtime Revolution 2.5 but I cannot get my stack to display text from file in a designated field. I have compared my scripts (open and read file commands) to other working stacks, and I have also successfully opened my text file using another stack. But I cannot get the stack I have created to display items from my file. The stack and file are saved in a folder together, and I've checked the filepath repeatedly. Any suggestions? Libby ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Humor
I thought list folks might be amused by this: -- Attack Thwarted by Alert Airport Security Guard NEW YORK - A public school teacher was arrested today at John F. Kennedy International Airport as he attempted to board a flight while in possession of a ruler, a protractor, a set square, a slide rule and a calculator. At a morning press conference, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said he believes the man is a member of the notorious Al-gebra movement. He did not identify the man, who has been charged by the FBI with carrying weapons of math instruction. "Al-gebra is a problem for us," Gonzales said. They desire solutions by means and extremes, and sometimes go off on tangents in a search of absolute values. They use secret code names like 'x' and y' and refer to themselves as 'unknowns', but we have determined they belong to a common denominator of the axis of medieval with coordinates in every country. As the Greek philanderer Isosceles used to say, 'There are three sides to every triangle'." When asked to comment on the arrest, President Bush said, "If God had wanted us to have better weapons of math instruction, He would have given us more fingers and toes." White House aides told reporters they could not recall a more intelligent or profound statement by the president. -- Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re Subject: Adding Time
> Regarding > >> Can anyone steer me in the correct direction for this? What I need to >> o is populate a list box with times at specific intervals. i.e. >> >> I have a input box for the start time say 8:00 A.M. >> I have a input box that has a stop time say 5:00 P.M. >> I have a input box that has an interval say 5 minutes. > >> What I want to do is populate a list box with: > >> 8:00 A.M. >> 8:05 A.M. >> 8:10 A.M. >> etc. >> etc. on createTimeList get the short date convert it to long time --now correct for Rev's ability to return 1 AM or 2 AM put char 1 of it into theHour convert it to seconds put (it - 60*60*theHour) into midnight --now we have a value for last midnight in seconds put empty into fld timeList --destination for our list put 5 into incrementMinutes -- put 60/incrementMinutes into intervalsPerHour put (60*60)/intervalsPerHour into secsPerInterval set the twelvehourtime to true --optional, if needing 13:05 to be 1:05 PM repeat with x = 0 to (24*intervalsPerHour-1) put midnight+(x*secsPerInterval) into secsOfThisDay get secsOfThisDay convert it to short time put it & cr after fld timeList end repeat delete last char of fld timeList end createTimeList --You can edit the list as you wish --change the line "put 5 into incrementMinutes" Hope this helps Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re Subject: Adding Time
Regarding > >Can anyone steer me in the correct direction for this? What I need to >o is populate a list box with times at specific intervals. i.e. > >I have a input box for the start time say 8:00 A.M. >I have a input box that has a stop time say 5:00 P.M. >I have a input box that has an interval say 5 minutes. >What I want to do is populate a list box with: >8:00 A.M. >8:05 A.M. >8:10 A.M. >etc. >etc. The script below worked for me. It returns the format below for a 24 hour period at 15 min intervals. I had to do some minor editing to it to get perfect before I inserted it as the contents of a button. I'm not proud of the script but it got the job done for me. If you need the script that compares the difference between two of these numbers and compares them against a 24 hour period let me know. Comparing say 0800 and 1315 and returning 5.25 Hrs. I am a Firefighter and we work 24 hour shiftso I use the script often. script returns... 0015 0030 0045 0100 0100 0115 0130 0145 0200 0200 0215 up to 2400 hrs on mouseUp put 0 into daTime put "" into line 1 of field "hr select" repeat with x = 2 to 119 put daTime + 15 into DaTime if DaTime is "60" then put "100" into daTime put DaTime into line x of field "hr Select" add 1 to x put tab & DaTime into line x of field "hr Select" next repeat end if if the number of chars of daTime < 4 then if char 2 to 4 of DaTime is "60" then put "00" into char 2 to 4 of DaTime put char 1 of daTime + 1 into char 1 of daTime end if else if char 3 to 5 of DaTime is "60" then put "00" into char 3 to 5 of DaTime if char 2 of daTime is "9" then put "2000" into daTime put DaTime into line x of field "hr Select" add 1 to x put tab & DaTime into line x of field "hr Select" next repeat end if put char 2 of daTime + 1 into char 2 of daTime end if end if if the number of chars of daTime > 2 then if char 2 to 3 of DaTime is "00" then put DaTime into line x of field "hr Select" add 1 to x put tab & DaTime into line x of field "hr Select" next repeat end if end if if the number of chars of daTime > 3 then if char 3 to 4 of DaTime is "00" then put DaTime into line x of field "hr Select" add 1 to x put tab & DaTime into line x of field "hr Select" next repeat end if end if put tab & DaTime into line x of field "hr Select" puts all the times into a field called hr select end repeat end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Activating a Function in a Different Stack
Wow, thanks for the great response everyone. I tried a few and I found that the value function works the best. I had actually been using virtual properties in a few places instead of functions, but the problem then was that I couldn't pass parameters to them. Here is the final script: put "Stack" && where & quote into vStack put requestData && "of" && vStack into vRequest try put value(vRequest,vStack) into vReturn end try One thing is still a little confusing though. Calling a function like "the short name of the current stack" return the name of the right stack, but a request like "the mouseLoc" returns a value that is relative to the stack that is retrieving the data, even if that stack isn't the top stack. If the mouseloc function is not relative to the top stack, and it is not relative to the stack that the value is being requested from, how does it decide which stack it is relative to and how can I know which functions are funny like that? Also one odd quirk I discovered was that when nesting value functions things get weird. i.e value( (value(vRequest,vStack) ), vStack) "the short name of me" would return "Odyssey" when the stack name was "Odyssey Sensors", and that was the only function that would come close to working. Not important, but very mystifying. TTFN Bridger ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Careful
This sounds like something I once got in trouble for doing in the 5th grade (namely, compile a dictionary of swear words). My teachers were not amused... Seriously, though, somebody's actually written a book on the subject: _The Anatomy of Swearing_ M. F. Ashley Montagu (1967). _Why We Curse: A Neuro-psycho-social Theory of Speech_ Timothy Jay (1999). Judy On Sat, 28 Oct 2006, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > This might sound daft, BUT: > > It might not be a bad thing (especially for the > benefit of non-native speakers of English) if a list > of rude words were drawn up and made available to RR > developers: a guide to words best eschewed in code. > > To back this up we only need to consider the recent > misunderstanding about the word "boks". On the > web-site referred to at the start of this thread there > was another word - "wa**er" - which, as far as I know > is a Briticism and may be misunderstood by North > Americans. > > I am perfectly prepared to offer a list of incredibly > foul Scots words :) > > At present I have a "little job" cleaning up the > website of a Russian type of Linux - the developers > have tried to be "cool" in English, and, owing to the > very simple fact that they are not native speakers and > have had little or no contact with "living English", > have only managed to sound both infantile and coarse. > > As English becomes, like it or not, the language of > programming and the web, this will be an increasing > problem. > > sincerely, Richmond Mathewson > > > > > I have just read and signed the online petition: > >"Hinge & Bracket" > > hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition > service, at: > >http://www.PetitionOnline.com/HandB/ > > I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might > agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and > consider signing yourself. > > Richmond Mathewson > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Activating a Function in a Different Stack
On Oct 30, 2006, at 12:51 PM, Ken Ray wrote: Never mind. It is in parameters where that does not work. Ah, but using pass-by-reference parameters DOES work: But you can't use pass-by-reference with send. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Double beeps
try send beep to target in 0 sec wait until the sound is done <--otherwise beep is cut off beep Hi everyone, I've been using: send beep to target in 0 sec;beep when I want two beeps. Unfortunately there's still too much of a delay between beeps. Can anything be done to adjust this interval? I'm using Mac OSX Joe ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Double beeps
On 10/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone, I've been using: send beep to target in 0 sec;beep when I want two beeps. Unfortunately there's still too much of a delay between beeps. Can anything be done to adjust this interval? I'm using Mac OSX How about this: beep wait 10 ticks with messages beep Adjust the wait interval in the middle until you get the delay you want. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Stack purging - and other bugs
Richard, I voted for bug 3932 - but I'm not optimistic. I voted for bug 1072 as well - ages ago - and nothing happened. Lots of votes - over lots of years - little action. Bugzilla seems to be a black hole into which votes go and out of which nothing comes. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
Dave Cragg wrote:
On 30 Oct 2006, at 20:23, Richard Gaskin wrote:
So while we have a workaround using this odd application of the
"delete stack" command which doesn't actually delete the stack but
merely purges it, I'm wondering if we should consider this behavior
a bug, as least as far as stack with their destroyStack set to true
are concerned?
I think the current behavior can be seen as useful, although I agree
it might seem odd in some ways.
Say I want to do this:
set the cProp of stack "C:/myStack.rev"
save stack "C:/myStack.rev"
If the stack is automatically purged after setting the prop, will the
change be saved? By current logic, presumably not. And what will get
saved in the second statement?
Consider your subsequent post:
I just remembered something (third time this week, must be the
new pills). Aren't "unused" stacks purged from memory by the engine
when it needs to reclaim memory? I think I'm referring to stacks
without the destryStack set, but which have been closed. I seem to
recall reading this somewhere, either in the old Metacard docs, or
the MC mailing list from long ago. If it's true, I wonder if it
applies to "unopened" stacks in memory too.
This implies the engine introduces a "sometimes" rule ("sometime it does
one thing, sometimes something else"), which is generally bad news.
So to answer your question, I would suggest that saving might be limited
to stacks which have been opened with the "open" or "go" command,
provided the stack has its destroyStack set to true.
If a stack has its destroyStack set to false, the current behavior seems
somewhat acceptable (once the "sometimes" part is resolved).
Also, would it be worth pursuing a request for a "purge stack"
command so newcomers don't get the impression that "delete stack"
will actually delete their stack?
You've only been asking for that for 8 years, Richard. Have patience!
But yes, I think it would be good. However, I imagine it's not just a
case of creating a synonym for "delete", as the behavior when applied
to substacks would be different.
Actually, my original request was for a related change, depricating the
destroyStack property in favor of something less alarming:
This request is for a command, which I've just added to BZ:
--
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Fourth World Media Corporation
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Re: Double vision
John Craig wrote: I suddenly have all handler names appearing twice in the handler list - only for 1 stack - all other stacks appear OK. Anyone know of a quick fix? Remove the duplicate handlers? ;) No, seriously, this happened to me once. I accidentally copied/pasted the whole script in twice. If your script is short this probably isn't the problem, but if it's a long one, you may not notice the duplicates if they are far down at the bottom of the script. Try changing the handler display from alphabetical to natural order. If there really are two of each handler, you'll still see two in the list but they won't be next to each other any more. If this isn't the problem then I haven't a clue. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Edit Mode
Hi Jhonken, Try: toplevel Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 30-okt-2006, om 22:55 heeft jhonken het volgende geschreven: I was editing a main stack and something seemed to have been triggered that I can't figure out. When I open the stack I can't use the edit/run icons on the revolution menu. I can open other stacks and they work fine. I can use the Application Inspector and edit everything fine from there. Does anyone know what could of happened to the stack that would prevent me from editing it. Also the save/save as and other menu items are greyed out in the editor. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Edit Mode
jhonken wrote: I was editing a main stack and something seemed to have been triggered that I can't figure out. When I open the stack I can't use the edit/run icons on the revolution menu. I can open other stacks and they work fine. I can use the Application Inspector and edit everything fine from there. Does anyone know what could of happened to the stack that would prevent me from editing it. This is typical of a stack that is opened in any mode that isn't toplevel. For example, palettes and modeless stacks can't be edited. You can change the mode of your stack in several ways; one way is to just type into the message box: toplevel "myStack" You can also change it from the Application Browser by right-clicking the stack name in the list and choosing "toplevel" from the menu. Also the save/save as and other menu items are greyed out in the editor. Once you've changed the stack to toplevel, these will come back. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Double vision
I suddenly have all handler names appearing twice in the handler list - only for 1 stack - all other stacks appear OK. Anyone know of a quick fix? I have tried restarting revolution and slapping the monitor a few times (side and top). Thanks in advance, JC ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Adding Time
This MAY be a tad faster. Jiim Lambert on mouseUp local tTimeList - put BuildTimeList(fld "StartTime", fld "EndTime", fld "Interval") into tTimeList if tTimeList contains "error" then -- error handling else put tTimeList into fld "TimeList" end mouseUp function BuildTimeList pStartime,pEndtime,pInterval local tTimeList - put pInterval * 60 into pInterval convert pStartime from short time to seconds convert pEndtime from short time to seconds if pEndtime <= pStartime then return "Error: invalid time period" - repeat until pStartime > pEndtime put pStartime into temp convert temp from seconds to short time put temp & cr after tTimeList add pInterval to pStartime end repeat - delete char -1 of tTimeList return tTimeList end BuildTimeList ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Edit Mode
I was editing a main stack and something seemed to have been triggered that I can't figure out. When I open the stack I can't use the edit/run icons on the revolution menu. I can open other stacks and they work fine. I can use the Application Inspector and edit everything fine from there. Does anyone know what could of happened to the stack that would prevent me from editing it. Also the save/save as and other menu items are greyed out in the editor. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
On 30 Oct 2006, at 21:15, Dave Cragg wrote: Say I want to do this: set the cProp of stack "C:/myStack.rev" save stack "C:/myStack.rev" Should be: set the cProp of stack "C:/myStack.rev" to somedata save stack "C:/myStack.rev" Also, I just remembered something (third time this week, must be the new pills). Aren't "unused" stacks purged from memory by the engine when it needs to reclaim memory? I think I'm referring to stacks without the destryStack set, but which have been closed. I seem to recall reading this somewhere, either in the old Metacard docs, or the MC mailing list from long ago. If it's true, I wonder if it applies to "unopened" stacks in memory too. Does anyone know? Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External won't load on some machines
On Oct 30, 2006, at 1:13 PM, Dar Scott wrote: I thought the standalone builder took these, and put them in some standard place and messed with the externals property of main stack of the application so they are loaded immediately.] In a standalone built with the Standalone Builder Rev loads the externals using the "revExternalLibraries" stack. I imagine this stack has the externals set and is then put in use so the externals are available in the message path to all objects. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Adding Time
Sorry, I did not use the right notation for function's arguments and forgot to include error management: on mouseUp local tTimeList - put BuildTimeList(fld "StartTime", fld "EndTime", fld "Interval") into tTimeList if tTimeList contains "error" then -- error handling else put tTimeList into fld "TimeList" end mouseUp function BuildTimeList pStartime,pEndtime,pInterval local tTimeList - put pInterval * 60 into pInterval convert pStartime from short time to seconds convert pEndtime from short time to seconds if pEndtime <= pStartime then return "Error: invalid time period" - repeat until pStartime > pEndtime convert pStartime from seconds to short time put pStartime & cr after tTimeList convert pStartime from short time to seconds add pInterval to pStartime end repeat - delete char -1 of tTimeList return tTimeList end BuildTimeList It assumes that "StartTime" and "EndTime" fields are formatted as short English date and field "Interval" is an integer that means minutes. Le 30 oct. 06 à 22:00, Eric Chatonet a écrit : Hi jhonken, Here is another approach: on mouseUp put BuildTimeList(fld "StartTime", fld "EndTime", fld "Interval") into fld "TimeList" end mouseUp function BuildTimeList tStartime,tEndtime,tInterval local tTimeList - put tInterval * 60 onto tInterval convert tStartime from short time to seconds convert tEndtime from short time to seconds - repeat until tStartime > tEndtime convert tStartime from seconds to short time put tStartime & cr after tTimeList convert tStartime from short time to seconds add tInterval to tStartime end repeat - delete char -1 of tTimeList return tTimeList end BuildTimeList It assumes that "StartTime" and "EndTime" fields are formatted as short English date and field "Interval" is an integer that means minutes. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet Le 30 oct. 06 à 20:27, jhonken a écrit : Can anyone steer me in the correct direction for this? What I need to do is populate a list box with times at specific intervals. i.e. I have a input box for the start time say 8:00 A.M. I have a input box that has a stop time say 5:00 P.M. I have a input box that has an interval say 5 minutes. What I want to do is populate a list box with: 8:00 A.M. 8:05 A.M. 8:10 A.M. etc. etc. etc. 5:00 P.M. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
On 30 Oct 2006, at 20:23, Richard Gaskin wrote: So while we have a workaround using this odd application of the "delete stack" command which doesn't actually delete the stack but merely purges it, I'm wondering if we should consider this behavior a bug, as least as far as stack with their destroyStack set to true are concerned? I think the current behavior can be seen as useful, although I agree it might seem odd in some ways. Say I want to do this: set the cProp of stack "C:/myStack.rev" save stack "C:/myStack.rev" If the stack is automatically purged after setting the prop, will the change be saved? By current logic, presumably not. And what will get saved in the second statement? Also, would it be worth pursuing a request for a "purge stack" command so newcomers don't get the impression that "delete stack" will actually delete their stack? You've only been asking for that for 8 years, Richard. Have patience! But yes, I think it would be good. However, I imagine it's not just a case of creating a synonym for "delete", as the behavior when applied to substacks would be different. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External won't load on some machines
On Oct 29, 2006, at 11:49 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: The external is located in the correct Externals folder (Rev) ... [I thought this was for RunRev externals. I thought the standalone builder took these, and put them in some standard place and messed with the externals property of main stack of the application so they are loaded immediately.] ... and in the correct place in the application bundle in the standalone. Is this correct place in the sense that that is where the standalone builder puts them? I deviate from that so I might not be much help. I usually don't load externals from the main stack. I don't have a good feel for what the standalone builder is doing to my stuff. Maybe you can add something to your script where you find it is not loaded that sends to stdout the defaultFolder and the externals property of the main stack. What would make an external fail to load on some machines and not others? As you know, an external loads with the stack it is associated with and relative to the defaultFolder. Could the defaultFolder be getting changed in some environments? Andre has suggested that setting some things in startup might help. That suggests (to me) that externals for even the main stack might be loaded after startup. (A surprise to me.) If your external is bound to the main stack, then maybe some environmental aspect is tested in startup and the defaultFolder is changed in some cases but not in others. If the external is bound to some other unopened stack such as a substack, you might be calling some function of that stack sooner than you thought--forcing compilation--and the defaultFolder might not be set right at that time. Just some rambling that might contain a hint somewhere... Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Adding Time
Hi jhonken, Here is another approach: on mouseUp put BuildTimeList(fld "StartTime", fld "EndTime", fld "Interval") into fld "TimeList" end mouseUp function BuildTimeList tStartime,tEndtime,tInterval local tTimeList - put tInterval * 60 onto tInterval convert tStartime from short time to seconds convert tEndtime from short time to seconds - repeat until tStartime > tEndtime convert tStartime from seconds to short time put tStartime & cr after tTimeList convert tStartime from short time to seconds add tInterval to tStartime end repeat - delete char -1 of tTimeList return tTimeList end BuildTimeList It assumes that "StartTime" and "EndTime" fields are formatted as short English date and field "Interval" is an integer that means minutes. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet Le 30 oct. 06 à 20:27, jhonken a écrit : Can anyone steer me in the correct direction for this? What I need to do is populate a list box with times at specific intervals. i.e. I have a input box for the start time say 8:00 A.M. I have a input box that has a stop time say 5:00 P.M. I have a input box that has an interval say 5 minutes. What I want to do is populate a list box with: 8:00 A.M. 8:05 A.M. 8:10 A.M. etc. etc. etc. 5:00 P.M. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Decoding jpeg in Rev cgi ?
I forgot 1 question : is there any PHP library that could be called from the Rev cgi handler ? Thanks, JB > Hi list, > > Here's another weird question : how do you guys would proceed > to decode jpeg data into a stream of numeric pixel values in a > handler run by Rev cgi on a Linux server, which means without > access to all the GUI functions ? > > Thanks, > JB > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Decoding jpeg in Rev cgi ?
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Re: Adding Time
Same fields as before, but a different approach and less fussy. Hope
this gives some more ideas.
JC
on mouseUp
if not matchText(fld "start", "^([[:digit:]]{1,2}):([[:digit:]]{1,2})[
]*([apm]{2})$", startHour, startMin, startPost) then
answer "error with start time format"
exit mouseUp
end if
if not matchText(fld "end", "^([[:digit:]]{1,2}):([[:digit:]]{1,2})[
]*([apm]{2})$", endHour, endMin, endPost) then
answer "error with end time format"
exit mouseUp
end if
if startPost = "pm" then add 12 to startHour
if endPost = "pm" then add 12 to endHour
put startHour * 60 + startMin into tSecs
put endHour * 60 + endMin into endSecs
put empty into fld "list"
repeat while tSecs <= endSecs
put trunc(tSecs / 60) into tHour
if tHour > 12 then
subtract 12 from tHour
put "pm" into tPost
else
put "am" into tPost
end if
put tSecs mod 60 into tMins
if fld "list" <> empty then put return after fld "list"
put tHour & ":" & format("%02d", tMins) && tPost after fld "list"
add fld "int" to tSecs
end repeat
end mouseUp
jhonken wrote:
Can anyone steer me in the correct direction for this? What I need to
do is populate a list box with times at specific intervals. i.e.
I have a input box for the start time say 8:00 A.M.
I have a input box that has a stop time say 5:00 P.M.
I have a input box that has an interval say 5 minutes.
What I want to do is populate a list box with:
8:00 A.M.
8:05 A.M.
8:10 A.M.
etc.
etc.
etc.
5:00 P.M.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Are there any arrow buttons?
Recently, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > Backgrounds in RR are not at all the same thing as > backgrounds in the dearly departed HC - and I eschew > them as being more trouble than they are worth. You simply need to learn how to use them. They are actually less trouble and worth more than the background behavior in Hypercard ever was. It may be that the term "background" is confusing for you. It was for me when I came to MetaCard from SuperCard. It might help to think of a background not as a layer that sits behind of everything on a card, but as a group that can be shared across cards, and can be placed on a lower layer across cards. This behavior is a fundamental Revolution behavior -- you really should learn to harness its power rather than dismissing it as too much trouble. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ ÁNN] Masking Bitmaps palette
Alejandro Tejada wrote: > Hi all, > > Download the stack "Masking Bitmaps" from: > http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/mask_bitmap.zip > _http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/mask_bitmap.zip_ > > This palette allows you to create a mask for a > bitmap from one or many vector graphics. > > Use it inside the development enviroment. > Read the help information contained in the stack. > > Thanks a lot to Scott Rossi, Willhem Sanke > and Chipp Walters for publishing their work > with images in this platform. > > Send comments and bug reports directly to my > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Have a great good day! > > al > > > Visit my site: > http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ This is a great utility! Very easy to use. I can put it to good use immediately. Thank You! Roger Eller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Are there any arrow buttons?
Bill Marriott wrote: "You're joking, right?" Har, har, har . . . I wish I were (and by George I have a difficult time explaining that Subjunctive outburst to my adult students here in Bulgaria). I spend most of my programming time making really very goofy standalones (that run on Linux) that allow little children to click on choice images or enter text into text boxes (well, blast-yer-eyes, it pays for the bread and cheese). My main concern is to do with background images . . . I copy-paste them on to each blessed card - because the screw-ups that seem to happen with backgrounded images, buttons and so forth, when I move the stacks from one of my Macs onto the Ubuntu boxes down in the school (my flat is in the attic and my school is in the basement - all a bit cavemanlike!) are a real pain in the B.T.M. Unless one is a bit nutty and wants to propagate a button across a thousand cards (!) I can't see what the beef is - one can easily modify the scripts at any time with a nifty for-next loop that shuffles its way through the cards. Backgrounds in RR are not at all the same thing as backgrounds in the dearly departed HC - and I eschew them as being more trouble than they are worth. I am also, a bit of a slob, at least in terms of designing tight little stacks for the following reasons: 1. I have a dual-processor mirror-door G4 Mac which is 4 years old, and, in computer terms, horribly out-dated - but the 1 GB of RAM it sports seems to make mince-meat of anything RR-wise I can chuck at it. 2. The Ubuntu boxes down in the basement with their 700 MHz Pentium 3 processors and 128 MB RAM fail to complain about the EFL stacks I run on them. 3. Does backgrounding an image or a button make a sufficiently visible speed difference that the end-user notices any sort of difference at all? 4. My problem - with my G4, at least - is trying to find time to slurp the next drop of coffee, before the next thing happens. Now, I may be a bit cognitively challenged (???), but a computer that pops stuff up on the VDU (err, "monitor") faster than my little grey cells can cope with it is failing me. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson I have just read and signed the online petition: "Hinge & Bracket" hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/HandB/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Richmond Mathewson ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Adding Time
Here's a quickie that seems to work OK with windoze + 2.7.4
4 fields - start, end, int and list - populated with '8:00 am', '5:00
pm', '5' and empty.
It's quite fussy - doesn't like it if I miss the space before am, etc.
Hopefully this will give you some ideas.
JC
on mouseUp
put fld "start" into tStart
put fld "end" into tEnd
put fld "int" into tInterval
put empty into fld "list"
convert tStart to dateItems
convert tEnd to dateItems
put item 4 of tStart * 60 + item 5 of tStart into tStartSecs
put item 4 of tEnd * 60 + item 5 of tEnd into tEndSecs
put tStartSecs into tSecs
repeat while tSecs <= tEndSecs
put tSecs into tTime
convert tTime from seconds to dateItems
put item 5 of tTime into tHour
put item 6 of tTime into tMin
if tHour > 12 then
subtract 12 from tHour
put "pm" into tPost
else
put "am" into tPost
end if
if fld "list" <> empty then put return after fld "list"
put tHour & ":" & format("%02d", tMin) && tPost after fld "list"
add tInterval to tSecs
end repeat
end mouseUp
jhonken wrote:
Can anyone steer me in the correct direction for this? What I need to
do is populate a list box with times at specific intervals. i.e.
I have a input box for the start time say 8:00 A.M.
I have a input box that has a stop time say 5:00 P.M.
I have a input box that has an interval say 5 minutes.
What I want to do is populate a list box with:
8:00 A.M.
8:05 A.M.
8:10 A.M.
etc.
etc.
etc.
5:00 P.M.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Rules governing stack purging
Thank you all for the verification. Contrary to many people's notions (including mine), it seems that merely reading a property of a stack will cause it to remain in memory -- even when that stack has its destroyStack set to false. I had been working under the presumption that when a property is read from a stack that hasn't been opened, the engine merely reads the stack, extracts the property contents, disposes of the stack and returns the property contents to me. Apparently that isn't how it works, even when a stack's destroyStack is true. So while we have a workaround using this odd application of the "delete stack" command which doesn't actually delete the stack but merely purges it, I'm wondering if we should consider this behavior a bug, as least as far as stack with their destroyStack set to true are concerned? Also, would it be worth pursuing a request for a "purge stack" command so newcomers don't get the impression that "delete stack" will actually delete their stack? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
So, you two are right and I was wrong :-) Thanks for clarifying this. Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 30-okt-2006, om 20:36 heeft J. Landman Gay het volgende geschreven: Dave Cragg wrote: On 30 Oct 2006, at 18:28, J. Landman Gay wrote: The stack will not be in the openstacks, because technically it isn't open. It isn't listed in the "the mainstacks" either. The engine opens it silently and doesn't pass any messages to it when you are just accessing a property. Jacque, are you sure it isn't in the mainstacks. I modified teh script I just posted as follows: And I seem to remember that Rev uses the mainstacks somewhere to list all stacks in memory. You're right, I only did a very quick test and I did expect to see it in the mainstacks. It wasn't in there, but your test is better than the one I did. And when I run yours, I get the same results. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Activating a Function in a Different Stack
On 10/29/06 7:13 PM, "Marielle Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Never mind. It is in parameters where that does not work. Ah, but using pass-by-reference parameters DOES work: on mouseUp put "1" into tTest[1] put "2" into tTest[2] updateArray tTest combine tTest using cr put tTest end mouseUp on updateArray @pTest put "3" into pTest[3] end updateArray When you click this button you get : 1 2 3 Tada! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
Dave Cragg wrote: On 30 Oct 2006, at 18:28, J. Landman Gay wrote: The stack will not be in the openstacks, because technically it isn't open. It isn't listed in the "the mainstacks" either. The engine opens it silently and doesn't pass any messages to it when you are just accessing a property. Jacque, are you sure it isn't in the mainstacks. I modified teh script I just posted as follows: on mouseUp put "/Users/dave/Desktop/proptest.rev" into tStackFile put the myProp of stack tStackFile into field 1 put the short name of stack tStackFile into tShortname put cr & (there is a stack tShortname) after field 1 put cr & (tShortname is among the lines of the mainstacks) after field 1 delete stack tStackFile put cr & (there is a stack tShortname) after field 1 put cr & (tShortname is among the lines of the mainstacks) after field 1 end mouseUp I now get true true false false And I seem to remember that Rev uses the mainstacks somewhere to list all stacks in memory. You're right, I only did a very quick test and I did expect to see it in the mainstacks. It wasn't in there, but your test is better than the one I did. And when I run yours, I get the same results. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Are there any arrow buttons?
James, That's how you're supposed to do it and it works fine for me on Rev 2.6.1 (Windows XP Pro). Sorry, I am unable to test on 2.7.x. James Z reported... > Something isn't working here. > I'm on an Intel Mac Pro, Rev Studio 2.7.3 Build 278. > > I do the following: > 1. File menu, New Mainstack. > 2. Drag a button to the card. > 3. The button is selected, Cmd G, to group. > 4. right click (or control click -Property inspector from menu). > 5. Click the "Behave like a background" button." > 6. Click the Close button in the upper left corner of the Property > Inspector. > 7. From the Object menu, select "New Card" > Result: Button doesn't show as background button. > > So what is missing here? Am I misunderstanding something? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Adding Time
Can anyone steer me in the correct direction for this? What I need to do is populate a list box with times at specific intervals. i.e. I have a input box for the start time say 8:00 A.M. I have a input box that has a stop time say 5:00 P.M. I have a input box that has an interval say 5 minutes. What I want to do is populate a list box with: 8:00 A.M. 8:05 A.M. 8:10 A.M. etc. etc. etc. 5:00 P.M. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
Chipp, If you delete the stack, do you need to close it? In other words, does go read delete suffice? Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
That works here. Having accessed a cp in the stack in question, it shows up in the mainStacks, but not the openStacks. However, seems to purge it from memory just fine. Best, Mark On 30 Oct 2006, at 20:07, Dave Cragg wrote: On 30 Oct 2006, at 18:28, J. Landman Gay wrote: The stack will not be in the openstacks, because technically it isn't open. It isn't listed in the "the mainstacks" either. The engine opens it silently and doesn't pass any messages to it when you are just accessing a property. Jacque, are you sure it isn't in the mainstacks. I modified teh script I just posted as follows: on mouseUp put "/Users/dave/Desktop/proptest.rev" into tStackFile put the myProp of stack tStackFile into field 1 put the short name of stack tStackFile into tShortname put cr & (there is a stack tShortname) after field 1 put cr & (tShortname is among the lines of the mainstacks) after field 1 delete stack tStackFile put cr & (there is a stack tShortname) after field 1 put cr & (tShortname is among the lines of the mainstacks) after field 1 end mouseUp I now get true true false false And I seem to remember that Rev uses the mainstacks somewhere to list all stacks in memory. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
Just to second what Dave says. For many of my apps where I 'load a document', I 'go' the stack, copy the necessary data from it, then 'delete stack xyz' in order to permanently remove it from memory. I don't like leaving inv data stacks in memory for a number of reasons: 1) larger memory footprint; 2) can get confusing esp with Save and Save As. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
On 30 Oct 2006, at 18:28, J. Landman Gay wrote: The stack will not be in the openstacks, because technically it isn't open. It isn't listed in the "the mainstacks" either. The engine opens it silently and doesn't pass any messages to it when you are just accessing a property. Jacque, are you sure it isn't in the mainstacks. I modified teh script I just posted as follows: on mouseUp put "/Users/dave/Desktop/proptest.rev" into tStackFile put the myProp of stack tStackFile into field 1 put the short name of stack tStackFile into tShortname put cr & (there is a stack tShortname) after field 1 put cr & (tShortname is among the lines of the mainstacks) after field 1 delete stack tStackFile put cr & (there is a stack tShortname) after field 1 put cr & (tShortname is among the lines of the mainstacks) after field 1 end mouseUp I now get true true false false And I seem to remember that Rev uses the mainstacks somewhere to list all stacks in memory. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
On 30 Oct 2006, at 17:26, Mark Schonewille wrote: It seems to be correct to assume that getting a property from a stack whose destroystack property has been set to true does not cause that stack to stay in memory. I tried the following in the message box: answer file ""; get the bla of stack it; put the openstacks and the selected stack file is not among the lines of the openstacks. (Dave, I think your reply in this matter is not correct, unless I overlook something). If I try this (using the short name and not the file name): on mouseUp put "/Users/dave/Desktop/proptest.rev" into tStackFile put the myProp of stack tStackFile into field 1 put the short name of stack tStackFile into tShortname put cr & there is a stack tShortname after field 1 delete stack tStackFile put cr & there is a stack tShortname after field 1 end mouseUp The first "there is a stack tShortname" return true, and the second returns false. So it would seem to be still in memory until you delete it. I think in some way that this is logical, as how would the engine know when to release it. I think Jacque's comment that only stacks that have been through the normal "open" procedure appear in the openStacks is correct. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Are there any arrow buttons?
Hi James, I followed the steps exactly as you described and it works fine in Rev 2.7.4 on Mac OS X. Did you quit and restart Revolution before doing this and do you have any non-default plug-ins installed? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 30-okt-2006, om 19:24 heeft James Z het volgende geschreven: Something isn't working here. I'm on an Intel Mac Pro, Rev Studio 2.7.3 Build 278. I do the following: 1. File menu, New Mainstack. 2. Drag a button to the card. 3. The button is selected, Cmd G, to group. 4. right click (or control click -Property inspector from menu). 5. Click the "Behave like a background" button." 6. Click the Close button in the upper left corner of the Property Inspector. 7. From the Object menu, select "New Card" Result: Button doesn't show as background button. So what is missing here? Am I misunderstanding something? James Z. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: disabled icons
On 10/30/06 11:24 AM, "Mark Swindell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks. I wonder how Rev creates, stores the defaults. What's the > mechanism they use? > Mark > Open a new Mainstack go to the Development menu, choose Image Library click on one of the images, then choose Place Image You can now copy, edit in any graphics program. When you import this image, it will get a new id in the library. Others on this list are experts at this, but this will get you started. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
My experience is that having accessed a stack on disk, it remains in memory until you explicitly close it ie. < close stack "/Users/ blah" > For some reason, when you've accessed the stack, but not yet closed it, it doesn't show up in the openStacks, but does show up in the application browser - once you've closed it, however, it seems to be really gone from memory. Perhaps not showing up in the openStacks is a bug? This is on Mac OS X, 2.7.4 (though I encountered this in 2.6xx, as well). Best, Mark On 30 Oct 2006, at 17:48, Richard Gaskin wrote: I'm working with a client on a system that makes extensive use of data stored in custom properties. I had been under the impression that as long as the stack containing the data has its destroyStack set to true, and as long as we don't open the stack, everytime we access its properties we're getting it fresh from disk rather than from cached memory. Is that correct? We're in the process of pinning down some anomalies in our system which would seem to suggest that accessing properties can cause a stack to remain in memory such that subsequent accesses are obtained from memory rather than from disk. I would love to be wrong, as it would complicate our system to have to manually purge each stack before accessing it. And as for that purging, in the absence of a purge command there is the workaround of using the delete command, but at the moment my memory's flakey: does using "delete stack" merely purge the stack but not delete the actual stack if it's a mainStack, or if it's a substack? And once we confirm which type of stack we can safely purge without deleting it using the "delete stack" command, what method do we use to purge stacks of the other kind? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Double beeps
On 10/30/06 11:08 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been using: send beep to target in 0 sec;beep > when I want two beeps. Unfortunately there's still too much of a delay > between beeps. Can anything be done to adjust this interval? I'm using Mac OSX > My guess is that you will have to shorten the actual beep sound file using a sound file editor, or find a shorter one to use, or make your own double-beep sound (like the road runner). Sound files made by others usually include a very small amount of sound data ahead of the audible sound, and quite a bit more on the back end. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
On 30 Oct 2006, at 16:48, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> We're in the process of pinning down some anomalies in our system >> which would seem to suggest that accessing properties can cause a >> stack to remain in memory such that subsequent accesses are >> obtained from memory rather than from disk. >> I would love to be wrong, as it would complicate our system to have >> to manually purge each stack before accessing it. To foil the possible caching, you could open another stack that has the same stack name but different filename, which would replace the first stack. This would allow you to test for the actual removal of the old data. Example: /users/me/documents/dataStorage.rev [stack name 'cacheData'] /users/me/documents/dataStorageNull.rev [stack name 'cacheData'] put the cpInventor of stack "/users/me/documents/dataStorage.rev" & " << is REAL" put the cpInventor of stack "/users/me/documents/dataStorageNull.rev" & " << is NULL" Hope this helps get you to your final solution. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Richard, It seems to be correct to assume that getting a property from a stack whose destroystack property has been set to true does not cause that stack to stay in memory. I tried the following in the message box: answer file ""; get the bla of stack it; put the openstacks and the selected stack file is not among the lines of the openstacks. (Dave, I think your reply in this matter is not correct, unless I overlook something). The stack will not be in the openstacks, because technically it isn't open. It isn't listed in the "the mainstacks" either. The engine opens it silently and doesn't pass any messages to it when you are just accessing a property. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Are there any arrow buttons?
Something isn't working here. I'm on an Intel Mac Pro, Rev Studio 2.7.3 Build 278. I do the following: 1. File menu, New Mainstack. 2. Drag a button to the card. 3. The button is selected, Cmd G, to group. 4. right click (or control click -Property inspector from menu). 5. Click the "Behave like a background" button." 6. Click the Close button in the upper left corner of the Property Inspector. 7. From the Object menu, select "New Card" Result: Button doesn't show as background button. So what is missing here? Am I misunderstanding something? James Z. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: disabled icons
Thanks. I wonder how Rev creates, stores the defaults. What's the mechanism they use? Mark On Oct 30, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Devin Asay wrote: On Oct 29, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: How does one modify the appearance of the stock disabled icons for buttons? For example, the stock disabled icon for a square button with 3D, Border, and Hilite Border checked is transparent... I like the way it looks, but need it to be less so. Mark, The only way I can think of to do this is to create images of the icon states you want and use them in transparent, borderless buttons. The difficulty would be figuring out a way to have the button label show on top of the icon image instead of under or beside it. I suppose you could do some fancy work with snapshots of actual buttons that you modify on the fly... It's starting to sound messy at this point. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Double beeps
Hi everyone, I've been using: send beep to target in 0 sec;beep when I want two beeps. Unfortunately there's still too much of a delay between beeps. Can anything be done to adjust this interval? I'm using Mac OSX Joe ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
managing sqlight3 permissions help
I have developed some powerfull database editing features in my revolution front end. I realize that the find and replace feature that I set up in one of my substacks could if used in properly alter the database in a huge way. So now I am wondering if I should just limit access to that sub stack via the ask password clear command or set permissions for all users as they connect to the database. I would like to say limit a bulk of the users to just the SELECT command, give others use of the INSERT and UPDATE command etc. Can I do this by setting one of the parameters in the connect string on log in ? I just added a password column to my staffing table and may be experimenting with a script to check and change this value. Any ideas? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
Hi Richard, It seems to be correct to assume that getting a property from a stack whose destroystack property has been set to true does not cause that stack to stay in memory. I tried the following in the message box: answer file ""; get the bla of stack it; put the openstacks and the selected stack file is not among the lines of the openstacks. (Dave, I think your reply in this matter is not correct, unless I overlook something). If you delete a stack, you completely remove it from memory. If the stack happens to be a substack of a mainstack, that substack is also deleted. This means that you can only safely delete mainstacks. As far as I know, you cannot purge a substack without either purging the mainstack or actually deleting the substack. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 30-okt-2006, om 17:48 heeft Richard Gaskin het volgende geschreven: I'm working with a client on a system that makes extensive use of data stored in custom properties. I had been under the impression that as long as the stack containing the data has its destroyStack set to true, and as long as we don't open the stack, everytime we access its properties we're getting it fresh from disk rather than from cached memory. Is that correct? We're in the process of pinning down some anomalies in our system which would seem to suggest that accessing properties can cause a stack to remain in memory such that subsequent accesses are obtained from memory rather than from disk. I would love to be wrong, as it would complicate our system to have to manually purge each stack before accessing it. And as for that purging, in the absence of a purge command there is the workaround of using the delete command, but at the moment my memory's flakey: does using "delete stack" merely purge the stack but not delete the actual stack if it's a mainStack, or if it's a substack? And once we confirm which type of stack we can safely purge without deleting it using the "delete stack" command, what method do we use to purge stacks of the other kind? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
On 30 Oct 2006, at 16:48, Richard Gaskin wrote: I'm working with a client on a system that makes extensive use of data stored in custom properties. I had been under the impression that as long as the stack containing the data has its destroyStack set to true, and as long as we don't open the stack, everytime we access its properties we're getting it fresh from disk rather than from cached memory. Is that correct? Perhaps not entirely, but I may have misunderstood your question. If you access a stack without using open/go/toplevel/etc., for example by doing this: get the cMyProperty of stack "/Users/dave/myStack.rev" then my understanding is that the stack will remain in memory until you delete it from memory, even it has the destroyStack set to true. Subsequents "gets" on the same stack will come from the memory version. Although I guess that would only make a difference if another app was saving the stack to disk while you had the stack in memory. We're in the process of pinning down some anomalies in our system which would seem to suggest that accessing properties can cause a stack to remain in memory such that subsequent accesses are obtained from memory rather than from disk. I think that's the case. And as for that purging, in the absence of a purge command there is the workaround of using the delete command, but at the moment my memory's flakey: does using "delete stack" merely purge the stack but not delete the actual stack if it's a mainStack, or if it's a substack? You can safely use "delete stack" with mainstacks. I typically use something like this when saving data to a "data only" stack. set the cMyData of stack "/Users/dave/myStack.rev" to tData save stack "/Users/dave/myStack.rev" delete stack "/Users/dave/myStack.rev" And once we confirm which type of stack we can safely purge without deleting it using the "delete stack" command, what method do we use to purge stacks of the other kind? By "other kind", do you mean substack. If so, I'm not sure as I've never used a substack as a data stack. However, I'd try deleting the substack's mainstack, and see if that works. But I'd *never* delete the substack. Any help?? Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Very confusing - image library multiple stacks
I don't know how this happened, but I now have a drop down that triggers the loading of 12 stacks. I have been developing different versions of three stack designs for a client. I have decided to assign one of the standard Rev icons to a button. I select the button, go to Icons & Border, click the wand button, and get a series of warning messages.. ""A stack with the same name as the one you are tying to load is already open. Before loading 'stacknameFullPath' what do you want to do with the stack: ' stacknameFullPath'? [ save purge cancel] "" Rev 2.7.2, OSX 10.4.7 1. If I repeatedly choose [cancel], I eventually get to the point of viewing the [Image Library] drop down 2. the [Image Library] drop down contains partial names of 6 stacks I have been working on, repeated so that I have additional items in the drop down menu. 3. Choosing one of these added menu choices does not change the display of icons or patterns. --- Standard Icons default Patterns Metacard Compatible Icons Metacard Compatible Patterns This Stack edMultiCycle edMultiCycle edMultiCycle edMultiCycle MultiCycle daMasterProgram dPrintCanada eParseCanada seCanada --- Application Manager shows each of the stacks now in memory if I click SAVE. After quiting Rev, I can... launch Rev, new Mainstack, add a button, now go to Icons & Border, all is normal. I am clueless as to why Rev wants to open all of the stacks and why do this repeatedly for 2 of them. I did assign one button a small lib icon Any hints for a repair. These stacks are very intricate and now that I want to add some interface pizzazz, I don't want to have to re-create them. Working toward a deadline today, so don't have much time to experiment (of course). Thanks Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
Richard, The documentation states that "delete stack" will actually delete the stack if applied to a sub stack - but does not actually delete the stack if applied to a main stack - this seems to be true. I'm not sure if the "delete stack file" command is doing anything. PL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: base 85 encoding ?
Alejandro, Thanks for the help. The handler is in the 3rd link. BTW, did you run this handler on large data chunks (>2Mb) ? Is it fast enough ? Thanks again, JB > on Mon Oct 30 > jbv wrote: > Is there an easy way to encode large chunks > of data into base 85 ? Can baseconvert be used ? > > Hi jbv, > > i included a handler to encode in base 85 > in one of these stacks: > http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/vector2pdf.zip > http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/vector2pdf_v02.zip > http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/vector2pdf_v02b.zip > > Could not tell you in which of them is the handler > to encode in base 85. > Now i´m in a linux computer and do not have > a RR player with me. :-( > > Have a great good day. :-) > > al > > Visit my site: > http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ > > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rules governing stack purging
I'm working with a client on a system that makes extensive use of data stored in custom properties. I had been under the impression that as long as the stack containing the data has its destroyStack set to true, and as long as we don't open the stack, everytime we access its properties we're getting it fresh from disk rather than from cached memory. Is that correct? We're in the process of pinning down some anomalies in our system which would seem to suggest that accessing properties can cause a stack to remain in memory such that subsequent accesses are obtained from memory rather than from disk. I would love to be wrong, as it would complicate our system to have to manually purge each stack before accessing it. And as for that purging, in the absence of a purge command there is the workaround of using the delete command, but at the moment my memory's flakey: does using "delete stack" merely purge the stack but not delete the actual stack if it's a mainStack, or if it's a substack? And once we confirm which type of stack we can safely purge without deleting it using the "delete stack" command, what method do we use to purge stacks of the other kind? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External won't load on some machines
Andre Garzia wrote: Jacque, I experienced similar problem here, I solved it by explicitly binding the external during the startup handler in the standalone, then it resumed working. Try setting the external prop in the startup handler, this will not solve the problem of the external not loading in the IDE but it might solve for standalones. Thanks. The stack/standalone has used that technique all along, and it does work just as you say. But the missing piece is that it isn't a universal binary external. Gak. I need to polish my brain. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External won't load on some machines
Trevor DeVore wrote: On Oct 29, 2006, at 10:49 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: What would make an external fail to load on some machines and not others? You can sometimes get useful information from watching output in Console.app during startup. The app is in /Applications/Utilities. Open it up, press the Clear button and then launch your app. If there is an error while loading the external you will see an error message appear. Let us know if you see anything. I figured it out late last night after backing off from the problem for a while. I left out some important info in my message: I upgraded my Mac, and the external I am using is not a universal binary. The app is. All I need to do is either check the "Run in Rosetta" checkbox in the Finder, or install a univeral binary version of the external. I should have figured that out. I knew about the issue. I think I was just too close to the problem to see it. But thanks for the tip. I didn't know about that one and I'm sure it will be useful. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ÁNN] Masking Bitmaps palette
Hi all, Download the stack "Masking Bitmaps" from: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/mask_bitmap.zip _http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/mask_bitmap.zip_ This palette allows you to create a mask for a bitmap from one or many vector graphics. Use it inside the development enviroment. Read the help information contained in the stack. Thanks a lot to Scott Rossi, Willhem Sanke and Chipp Walters for publishing their work with images in this platform. Send comments and bug reports directly to my email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have a great good day! al Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the New Yahoo.com (http://www.yahoo.com/preview) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: disabled icons
On Oct 29, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: How does one modify the appearance of the stock disabled icons for buttons? For example, the stock disabled icon for a square button with 3D, Border, and Hilite Border checked is transparent... I like the way it looks, but need it to be less so. Mark, The only way I can think of to do this is to create images of the icon states you want and use them in transparent, borderless buttons. The difficulty would be figuring out a way to have the button label show on top of the icon image instead of under or beside it. I suppose you could do some fancy work with snapshots of actual buttons that you modify on the fly... It's starting to sound messy at this point. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External won't load on some machines
On Oct 29, 2006, at 10:49 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: What would make an external fail to load on some machines and not others? You can sometimes get useful information from watching output in Console.app during startup. The app is in /Applications/Utilities. Open it up, press the Clear button and then launch your app. If there is an error while loading the external you will see an error message appear. Let us know if you see anything. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Are there any arrow buttons?
Yes, absolutely right, BUT... he's coming from HyperCard, so he probably expects it to behave that way :) Dave Cragg pointed out... > When you set the group to "Behave like a Background" (set the > backgroundBehavior to true), you change the message passing path. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Are there any arrow buttons?
On 30 Oct 2006, at 13:33, Bill Marriott wrote: No, the answer is simply to group the button (along with any other persistent element in your UI) and set the group to "Behave like a Background" in the object inspector. At the risk of confusing James even more, I don't think it's necessary to set the group to "Behave like a Background". Just "placing" the group on each card is sufficient to get the same button on each card as a shared object. When you set the group to "Behave like a Background" (set the backgroundBehavior to true), you change the message passing path. This can be useful, but can also have unwanted effects. (unlikely in this case). To illustrate: Using James' example button, say you want to set the script to this: on mouseUp go next card end mouseUp But instead of putting the handler in the button script, you put it in the group's script. (Perhaps unlikely in this case, but something you might do if you were grouping a set of buttons.) With the backgroundBehavior set to false, the behavior will be exctly the same as if the handler were in the button's script. But if you set the backgroundBehavior to true, clicking anywhere on the card will trigger the handler, which may not be what you want. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External won't load on some machines
Jacque, I experienced similar problem here, I solved it by explicitly binding the external during the startup handler in the standalone, then it resumed working. Try setting the external prop in the startup handler, this will not solve the problem of the external not loading in the IDE but it might solve for standalones. Andre On Oct 30, 2006, at 4:49 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: This is too weird. I have an app that uses a custom external. I've been working with it for months, up until recently, when I stopped testing it. Today I tried it again and it won't load at all, either in Revolution or in the standalone. I get "error in function handler" at the place where the external is called. The external is located in the correct Externals folder (Rev) and in the correct place in the application bundle in the standalone. I also tested in MC, where the external is located in the correct place inside the engine's folder. The same copies of this external have been sitting in these folders for over six months and always worked in the past. All of these fail now. I have tried engines 2.7.4, 2.7.3, and 2.7.2 with the same results. I know that at least 2.7.2 and 2.7.3 were working fine previously. I used the same test stack that has always worked before. The standalone is shipping currently and we have had three people report the same problem recently. However, most people using the exact same download are not having a problem and the external loads fine. I sent a new build to the client today, and it works fine for him too -- but when I run it, it fails. What would make an external fail to load on some machines and not others? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Are there any arrow buttons?
Hi Marielle and all, Le 30 oct. 06 à 13:40, Marielle Lange a écrit : I just copy-paste the same button containing the same script and the same icon reference to wherever I want it to appear. A word of caution here. To copy and paste *images* is dangerous a good strategy with image is the one that Eric posted on this list recently. Put all images in a "pix" (for picture) card or substack. Create a transparent button. Set the icon id of the button to the id of the image. Then you can safely cut and paste images wherever you want. Best, Marielle This simple technique brings many advantages: . Less weight: an image may be displayed as many times as you wish by reference to the source that stays unique (icons in a list field for instance). . An image can be changed in all places it appears easily (or modified by manipulating its imagedata). . If you use another stack to store images (not a substack), you are on the right way to create multiple-skins applications :-) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Are there any arrow buttons?
My script won't work, you need to refer to the grp as a bg once you have set the bgBehavior to true: place bg id myID onto cd x Sorry for the inconvenience. Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 30-okt-2006, om 13:24 heeft Mark Schonewille het volgende geschreven: Hi James, Create your button on the first card of your stack, select it, choose Group Selected from the Object menu and run the following script: put the short id of the last grp into myID -- following line shows grp if new cards -- are created afterwards set the bgBehavior of the last grp to true repeat with x = 2 to number of cards place grp id myID onto cd x end repeat Best regards, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Are there any arrow buttons?
James Z asked... > One more question... How do I put a button in the background so > each card has the same button? Richmond Mathewson suggested... > I just copy-paste the same button containing the same > script and the same icon reference to wherever I want > it to appear. You're joking, right? Copying an object to multiple cards is a great way to ensure that down the road you'll have headaches to move said button to a new position, change its appearance, or update the script of that button. It's just more work all around, even in terms of sheer keystrokes/mouse clicks to set it up. Not to mention senselessly wasting memory and making the stack bigger. No, the answer is simply to group the button (along with any other persistent element in your UI) and set the group to "Behave like a Background" in the object inspector. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Are there any arrow buttons?
I just copy-paste the same button containing the same script and the same icon reference to wherever I want it to appear. A word of caution here. Though the use backgroundbehavior is a much safer option, the technique given here works perfectly fine for the use being described here, to copy and paste *buttons* on other cards. Given what the good old metacard arrows look like, I suspect that one day or another you will want to replace them with better looking options. Note however that if you use this technique for buttons that are in fact images that you have designed with photoshop (or whatever)... you may be up to very bad surprises. When I wrote my first application, I got everything fine on my own computer... then when I shared it with others I rapidly got to learn that they couldn't get to see the nice looking buttons I had lovingly designed. In fact not that rapidly. It was only a few weeks later than I got a kind user let me know that he couldn't see any button on the screen (the other users simply gave up there was no way for them to know they couldn't see buttons as they were none on the screen). To copy and paste *images* is dangerous a good strategy with image is the one that Eric posted on this list recently. Put all images in a "pix" (for picture) card or substack. Create a transparent button. Set the icon id of the button to the id of the image. Then you can safely cut and paste images wherever you want. Best, Marielle ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Are there any arrow buttons?
Hi James, Create your button on the first card of your stack, select it, choose Group Selected from the Object menu and run the following script: put the short id of the last grp into myID -- following line shows grp if new cards -- are created afterwards set the bgBehavior of the last grp to true repeat with x = 2 to number of cards place grp id myID onto cd x end repeat Best regards, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 30-okt-2006, om 12:53 heeft James Z het volgende geschreven: Thank you very much! One more question... How do I put a button in the background so each card has the same button? James On 10/30/06 2:18 AM, "Richmond Mathewson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, there are arrow icons. 1. Double-click on your new button to open the preferences palette. 2. Select "Icons and Border" from the drop-down menu at the top of the preferences palette. 3. Click on the silly magic wand icon next to where it says 'Icon'. 4. Choose either "Standard Icons" or "Metacard Compatible Icons" from the drop-down menu. 5. Fossick around until you find the particular arrows that suit your needs/tastes. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re-2: Are there any arrow buttons?
Hi, select the button or buttons. Press CTRL-G to group the selected button(s). Open the propertyinspector (right click on the selected group) and check "Behave like a background" under BasicProperties. That´s all. Matthias Original Message Subject: Re: Are there any arrow buttons? (30-Okt-2006 12:58) From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Thank you very much! > > One more question... How do I put a button in the background so each card > has the same button? > > James > > > On 10/30/06 2:18 AM, "Richmond Mathewson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, there are arrow icons. > > > > 1. Double-click on your new button to open the > > preferences palette. > > > > 2. Select "Icons and Border" from the drop-down menu > > at the top > > of the preferences palette. > > > > 3. Click on the silly magic wand icon next to where it > > says 'Icon'. > > > > 4. Choose either "Standard Icons" or "Metacard > > Compatible Icons" from > > the drop-down menu. > > > > 5. Fossick around until you find the particular arrows > > that suit your > > needs/tastes. > > > > sincerely, Richmond Mathewson > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: base 85 encoding ?
Hi JB, You can't use baseconvert, because baseconvert encodes only what can be displayed using 36 different symbols (26 letters and 10 numbers). I suspect you'll have to write a base85 function yourself and please share it if you do. Best regards, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 30-okt-2006, om 13:29 heeft jbv het volgende geschreven: Hi list, Is there an easy way to encode large chunks of data into base 85 ? Can baseconvert be used ? Thanks, JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
base 85 encoding ?
Errm . . . read the Documentation: "The originalBase is an integer between 2 and 36. The destinationBase is an integer between 2 and 36." so 85 is outside the range. Why would you want to use base 85 ? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson I have just read and signed the online petition: "Hinge & Bracket" hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/HandB/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Richmond Mathewson ___ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
HyperCard Hangovers
I just thought I would observe (having spent 2 hours going back to the future and fiddling about with HyperCard) that while Transcript (Oops, Revolution ???) is a version of xTalk, and RR is vaunted as the successor to HC, RR does do some things slightly differently. And the later ex-HC users come to RR the more differences they will find. This is to be expected. The first idea that I had to get rid of was "Background". sincerely, Richmond Mathewson I have just read and signed the online petition: "Hinge & Bracket" hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/HandB/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Richmond Mathewson Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
base 85 encoding ?
Hi list, Is there an easy way to encode large chunks of data into base 85 ? Can baseconvert be used ? Thanks, JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Are there any arrow buttons?
"One more question... How do I put a button in the background so each card has the same button?" I don't know how 'you' do that: BUT I just copy-paste the same button containing the same script and the same icon reference to wherever I want it to appear. However, I am a strictly "path of least resistance" programmer so you may wish to consult others :) sincerely, Richmond Mathewson I have just read and signed the online petition: "Hinge & Bracket" hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/HandB/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Richmond Mathewson Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Are there any arrow buttons?
Thank you very much! One more question... How do I put a button in the background so each card has the same button? James On 10/30/06 2:18 AM, "Richmond Mathewson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, there are arrow icons. > > 1. Double-click on your new button to open the > preferences palette. > > 2. Select "Icons and Border" from the drop-down menu > at the top > of the preferences palette. > > 3. Click on the silly magic wand icon next to where it > says 'Icon'. > > 4. Choose either "Standard Icons" or "Metacard > Compatible Icons" from > the drop-down menu. > > 5. Fossick around until you find the particular arrows > that suit your > needs/tastes. > > sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Are there any arrow buttons?
Yes, there are arrow icons. 1. Double-click on your new button to open the preferences palette. 2. Select "Icons and Border" from the drop-down menu at the top of the preferences palette. 3. Click on the silly magic wand icon next to where it says 'Icon'. 4. Choose either "Standard Icons" or "Metacard Compatible Icons" from the drop-down menu. 5. Fossick around until you find the particular arrows that suit your needs/tastes. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson I have just read and signed the online petition: "Hinge & Bracket" hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/HandB/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Richmond Mathewson Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Are there any arrow buttons?
I'm new to revolution, coming from HC and SC. I want an 'arrow' button to go to the next card, but I can't find any. How do I get an 'arrow' button. Thanks James Z. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
