Re: OT: getting page hit-counts for on-rev account
In cpanel In the "Logs" panel, click on webalizer for the appropriate domain, click on "View" then click on the relevant month then click on "URLs" and then you should see it Hopefully there are other, perhaps better ways. -- Alex. On 18/11/2010 23:55, Nicolas Cueto wrote: Hello List, I guess my question is for fellow on-rev account users. How can one retrieve a count of the number of visitors to a specific web-page? Somewhere in the cpanel, I imagine. But if someone knows for certain, it'd save me a lot of digging around here and there. Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Functions in the on-rev - LC server script
Yes, but there is no need to transform handlers (commands) into functions. You can have handlers in .irev too, so long as they are defined before they are used. -- Alex. On 16/11/2010 17:17, paolo mazza wrote: Thank you Devin, that's interesting. So, if I move all the functions and all the commands (transformed in functions) of my script before the main command the script of my stack should work also in the on-rev server. I will give it a try. Thanks a lot Paolo On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Devin Asay wrote: On Nov 16, 2010, at 9:40 AM, paolo mazza wrote: How can I place a function in a on-rev - CGI server script ? I have to port a stack script (with commands and functions) to a .irev text file for the on-rev server . I expected something similar to the following script... ... but obviously it does not work !!! Any idea? Paolo, In irev scripts you have to declare the function before you call it, so just put the function handler at the top: Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode Personal Banner
On 15/11/2010 20:37, Andre Garzia wrote: (2) There is no way to distinguish your standalone running on your own machine from your standalone running somewhere else. Any way to detect that it is running on the same machine as the one used to develop the given standalone will not be tamper proof. You can't trust any metric given by a computer to identify itself. You can't trust MAC Addresses, HD Serial or CPU Serial, all those can be spoofed. That's right, you can't have a reliable check for the machine. But what you can do, and I would argue you should do, is check for a valid IDE license. So the rule could be: a standalone built with Personal Edition will check whether the machine has a valid licensed copy of the IDE on it If there is no IDE, then you get the 10 second start-up screen. If there is a valid IDE, you get no start-up screen (or maybe a 1-second start-up) That way, anyone with the Personal Edition can build and run on (all) their own machines without being bothered. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Indenting Challenge
I haven't thought this through, but . there are only 3 (or maybe 4) different indent cases. create a suitable image for each case (i.e. normal, bulletted, 2nd level, continuation, etc.) which is blank space of the appropriate number of pixels wide then insert an extra character at the start of each line, and set the imagesource of that first character according according to what kind of line it is -- Alex. On 09/11/2010 18:39, Scott Rossi wrote: Hi List: Was hoping someone here might have some uncanny insight into how to solve a text formatting dilemma... Basic problem: I need to create two levels on indenting in a block of text, but the text needs to always be directly editable and may span multiple lines. About a month or so back I mentioned an app I was working on that was sort of a poor man's PowerPoint, and was trying to mimic the bullet formatting one can apply to text. I've been asked to implement two levels bulleting/indenting, something like the following (hope it comes across): € Main Bullet Item 1 that spans multiple lines € Main Bullet Item 2 - Secondary Bullet 1 - Secondary Bullet 2 which spans multiple lines - Secondary Bullet 3 € Main Bullet Item 3 I can accomplish the first level bullet/indenting using a combination of margins and firstIndent, but I can't figure out a way to handle second level. To date I've been using HTMLtext and non-breaking spaces to pad the secondary level lines, but arbitrarily adding spaces to live editable text is messy, and I can't find a way to align a padded+wrapped line with the line above it. It occurred to me maybe there's some non-typeable, non-selectable character I could use for padding, but I only know of formFeed/lineFeed characters which wouldn't help here. And the thing that really makes this difficult is the fact that the text needs to be directly editable by users (cannot be in a locked field). Any suggestions on how I might tackle this? Thanks& Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: delete chunk.
I agree it would be great to be able to say set the payAttentionToTrailingDelimiters to true But in the meantime you can use the fact that doubling a trailing delimiter will be ignored. repeat for each line L in tData if the last item of (L & the itemDel) is empty then -- deal with an empty one else -- use "the last item of L" which is not empty end if -- Alex. On 03/11/2010 12:52, Ken Ray wrote: Just tossing this out there, but I *love* this behavior. I'm sure there are situations where it's undesirable, but are easily compensated for by just adding another delimiter. Begin able to do the following is very handy and makes the code clean: put "foo"& cr after fld "x" put "bar"& cr after fld "x" put the number of lines of fld "x" Having that return 2 is extremely convenient. Agreed, but sometimes it's not convenient when you want to get the "last item" of a line; for example, if you have a container that holds columns for First Name (tab) Last Name (tab) Notes, and some lines have a note and some don't, you can't just set the itemDelimiter to tab and run through the container and get the "last item" or "item -1" of the line to check if the person entered a note; if they didn't provide one, then check the "last item" will give you their Last Name instead. It would be great if there was a global setting that you could toggle it on in these circumstances, something like: put item -1 of "Ken,Ray," ==> returns "Ray" set the dontIgnoreTrailingDelimiter to true put item -1 of "Ken,Ray," ==> returns "" :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: delete chunk.
On 03/11/2010 13:43, dunb...@aol.com wrote: This seems perfectly intuitive to me. When you delete an item, you are doing something entirely different than just manipulating the contents of an item. In one case you reduce the number of items. In the other you merely insert, or remove, data from them. But manipulating the contents of an item does (can) change the number of items. put "a,b,c" into temp put temp && the number of items in temp ===> a,b,c 3 put empty into the last item of temp put temp && the number of items in temp ===> a,b, 2 -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: delete chunk.
On 03/11/2010 04:41, J. Landman Gay wrote: Right. You can't have an empty last item, and if you try, the last delimiter is removed. There's a comment about it in the dictionary under "item". You can have an empty last item - see the end of the email. But even without that special case, you can have a trailing delimiter - if you do this in the message box of LC 4.5 put "a,b,c" into t ; put empty into item -1 of t; put t then you get a,b, i.e. the trailing comma remains. If instead you say "delete item -1 of temp" then the trailing delimiter disappears. I guess it just *is* that way, and always has been. The problem is that the docs are completely wrong when they say delete /chunk/ of /container / is the same as put empty into /chunk/ of /container/ But it can be tricky to follow the logic. Here's a quiz without trying it :-) what do you get from put "a,b,c" into t put empty into the last item of t put empty into the last item of t put empty into the last item of t put t answer follows below You get "a,," the first "put empty ..." removes "c" The second one removes "b" The third one does nothing - because the last item is empty. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
delete chunk.
Hmmm ... what should I get from put "a,b,c" into temp delete item -1 of temp I think temp should now have "a,b," - i.e. the last item has disappeared, but the (now) trailing item delimiter should still be there. However, I actually get that temp has "a,b" - the last comma has also disappeared. The docs say that "delete chunk of container" is equivalent to "put empty into chunk of container" - but if I replace it so I do put "a,b,c" into temp put empty into item -1 of temp then I do indeed get "a,b,". Feels like a bug, and I should put it into QCC - but it's late at night and I may be just missing something. Am I ? Thanks -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Auto-updating apps, and splash screens.
On 29/10/2010 05:40, stephen barncard wrote: Search for "Magic Carpet" at Chipp's site. I tried Magic Carpet when it was first announced, and it was a good backup/archive/version-control system, but I don't remember anything about auto-update, and there's nothing about auto-update in the web pages about Magic Carpet. On 29/10/2010 05:10, Jim Sims wrote: Alex - search the List archives for Chipp's updater, he has a few posts that outline what seems to be a good system and gives some excellent advice. I did (eventually) find that advice. It's well hidden because some other emails in the archive refer to it, but have the wrong link. It should be http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-August/021626.html and you're right, lots of good advice, looks like a good system, etc. I was just hoping for some working example to start from. Richard Gaskin has most of this in the auto-download used in RevNet, so I may try taking that and expanding it into auto-updater.Sounds like a project for a quiet evening Thanks -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev as Linux Shell Script
Hi Mike If you're using the 3.5 engine you can use liburl via the following: http://www.lacscentre.com/liburl/releases.html regards alex ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Auto-updating apps, and splash screens.
I have a little app that will be used on a number of computers, so I want it to check for a new version being available, and update itself if needed (and desired). I know the easy way to do this is to have the executable be basically a 'splash screen' that starts the *real* stack, and therefore the real stack can be updated. Does anyone have a sample stack / app showing this ? And, what do you as app users prefer 1. The app automatically updates itself when a new version is available. 2. The app downloads the new version automatically, and then (next time?) on startup asks if you want to install the update. 3. The app lets yo know there is a new version available, and asks if it should download / install the update. 4. Something else. Thanks -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev as Linux Shell Script
Just a guess . libURL uses private handlers, and RevServer scripts can't have private functions in them. (The Docs say 'private' applies to desktop and server, but my simple test suggests otherwise fails, remove the 'private' and it works.) There are only 2 instances of it in libURL, so try changing them and see if it helps beware also of name clashes - e.g. the handler 'log' would cause a clash in most of my scripts :-) -- Alex. On 28/10/2010 23:28, Mike Bonner wrote: Nope doesn't work, and I don't know enough to determine if it would be worthwhile to beat it into submission or how to begin if it is worthwhile. (tried it with the 4.5 script) Mostly was just wondering, revserver throws errors such as: 183,485,43,) 482,746,1,private EXECUTION ERROR: 681,0,0,1 I have no clue what they mean. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:39 PM, J. Landman Gaywrote: On 10/28/10 3:23 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: I have a question regarding this, if one were to copy the script as you explained, and instead of placing it in a stack could one paste it into an .irev file and use it as an include with revserver scripts? Yes, I think so, but I'm not sure how much of libURL the irev engine supports. The original post was about using it in an old-style CGI, which doesn't support text file includes, but is basically the same engine as the one used for building standalones. If you try it, let us know if it works. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: liburlftpcommand problem
No clear idea, but a debugging suggestion. If it were me, I'd change your (failing) script to put the selectedtext of fld "fListe" into tText put "dele /htdocs/visit05/files/"& tText into tCmd *put ">>>>"& tCmd& "<<<<"& CR after msg* get liburlftpcommand(tCmd, tFtpServer, tFtpUser, tFtpPass) just to be sure that I have what I expect in the selected text, and don't have any stray extra CRs or other odd characters. -- Alex. On 26/10/2010 21:33, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi, i want to delete a file on an ftp server. With the following script put the selectedtext of fld "fListe" into tText put "dele /htdocs/visit05/files/"& tText into tCmd get liburlftpcommand(tCmd, tFtpServer, tFtpUser, tFtpPass) i get an error 550 /htdocs/visit05/files/Test3: No such file or directory I tried list fields and scrolling list fields. But with the following script put "Test3" put "dele /htdocs/visit05/files/"& tText into tCmd get liburlftpcommand(tCmd, tFtpServer, tFtpUser, tFtpPass) it works and the file is deleted. Is there anything i am missing? Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
Hi Sarah - very interesting perspective on the App Store. I was particularly struck by one point. On 25/10/2010 01:36, Sarah Reichelt wrote: The other iOS phenomenon I would expect to see on the Mac, is greater numbers of small, cheap, single-use apps. LiveCode is ideally suited to this market, provided we can get the native controls etc, that the App store will require. I am building a small app (primarily, if not entirely) for my own use. It does two related, but kind of different, things, which need slightly different user input. And I've been struggling with how to handle that Should I - display all controls - have modes, and disable those controls that don't currently apply - hide those that don't apply - use modal / wizard style for the more complicated one Oh, so many choices. And your point above gave me the right answer for this case - make it two separate apps. Make each one totally focused, no complications arise over what controls to show or what to display. Sometimes the answer is too simple :-) Thanks, -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting Email
Yes, both Sarah and Shao Sean have SMYP libraries (I haven't used either). It's not hard to pick out the attachments - but it would be nice to do it in a general way for a library, that would return a list of attachments, their types, allow simple filing of them, etc. -- Alex. On 24/10/2010 14:49, Len Morgan wrote: On 10/24/2010 8:46 AM, Ray Horsley wrote: Alex, Thanks for these suggestions. Please let me know if you ever write something a little beefier; i.e. something which could read attachments and work with SMTP. I'm pretty sure Sarah has one that uses SMTP too. What makes reading attachments so hard? Aren't they separated by an ID number and you're told what the type of the attachment is and possibly the length? It seems like LiveCode's text search routines would make it pretty easy to "delimit" the various attachments from each other. The "hard" part would be deciding what to do with them once you had them. len morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting Email
Sarah has a library for reading from a POP server, which I've used a few times - see http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Library#stacks Shao Sean also has a POP library, which I haven't used but I would expect it to be excellent. AFAIK, neither has decoding capabilities for extracting attachments, etc. so if you need that you'll need to roll your own. BTW, if anyone else has written one of those, and felt like sharing it, I'm sure it would be very welcome. (I keep threatening to do that, but for now my Python script is running very happily so I haven't got around to re-writing into LiveCode). -- Alex. On 24/10/2010 13:50, Ray Horsley wrote: Greetings, Anybody know of a way to retrieve email using LiveCode? Thanks, Ray Horsley LinkIt! Software ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: determining if user has shell access
Write a tiny script that does something trivial in shell (e.g. "shell ls"), and build that as a tiny executable. Have your real script run that as a separate process and see if it never returns. (Hmmm ... can you always start another executable ?) -- Alex. On 14/10/2010 09:41, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi Dar Thanks for your interest. I'm a little confused as to what is happening. Is the app locking up? Yes. The shell function never returns. I have reported it as a bug because it should fail gracefully. But I'd love a workaround or test. Or does the function return empty? If the latter, then maybe you can test shell with something trivial that always returns something that is not empty. If you get empty, you can't use shell(). I wish it were that easy. Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List Words from Textarea
Welcome Raz. Pierre's script gives you one good answer. When I read your email, I assumed you wanted to list each word - but avoid duplicates. To do that, you would change the script slightly, to on mouseup set the wholeMatches to true repeat for each word w in fld "myfield" if w is not among the lines of mywordslist then put w& cr after mywordslist end repeat answer mywordslist end mouseup -- Alex. On 13/10/2010 20:18, Pierre Sahores wrote: Welcome to LiveCode Raz ! on mouseup repeat for each word w in fld "myfield" put w& cr after mywordslist end repeat answer mywordslist end mouseup HTH, Best, Pierre Le 13 oct. 2010 à 21:06, Razvan Pantescu a écrit : I've started to study Livecode, don't know too much of it. I'm living about 250km north of Danube (Focsani, Romania) So any suggestions so I can read or list all the words from a Textarea? Thanks, Raz. Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:59:55 +0300 From: richmondmathew...@gmail.com To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: List Words from Textarea On 10/13/2010 09:57 PM, Razvan Pantescu wrote: Hi, How can I list every word from a textarea? "put any word of field" - show any word, but exists some "every word"? Thank you, Raz. Wow; at least one other LiveCode / RunRev programmer in the Balkans; there's hope yet! How far north of the Danube do you live? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson (Plovdiv, Bulgaria). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevOnline (Was: Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel]
On 10/10/2010 23:14, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/10/10 4:47 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: On 10/10/2010 19:16, J. Landman Gay wrote: I think the best repository would be the one provided by RunRev -- RevOnline. Everyone has access to that and sharing stacks and code is its main intention. That may be its main intention- but it does a pitifully poor job of it. It currently has 225 entries, in about 90 categories (I guess they're tags, not categories, I think). Which tag would I use to find, say, Scott's scrolling list ? (OK, I'd start with "Awesome", but after that, I'm not sure :-) "Mobile" I guess. Or "Rossi". Only I don't think he's uploaded anything there yet. Neither of those get any hits in the search box. Why they had to remove the old RevOnline feature of allowing us to search by author is totally beyond me. I just typed my name in there and all my stuff came up. But it's true that search also brings up entries that happen to contain someone else's name, so yes, it isn't specifically an author search. I just tried that (which name ?? - Gay, Jacqueline, Landman, Hyperactive - all get 0 hits) I'm sure there were other issues with the new version of RevOnline, but I can't log in to try it out properly. I'm not sure why, but a note to support should fix it. No need - the "automatic password reset" has succeeded. Now I need to find a stack worth uploading :-) -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
On 10/10/2010 19:16, J. Landman Gay wrote: I think the best repository would be the one provided by RunRev -- RevOnline. Everyone has access to that and sharing stacks and code is its main intention. That may be its main intention- but it does a pitifully poor job of it. It currently has 225 entries, in about 90 categories (I guess they're tags, not categories, I think). Which tag would I use to find, say, Scott's scrolling list ? (OK, I'd start with "Awesome", but after that, I'm not sure :-) Why they had to remove the old RevOnline feature of allowing us to search by author is totally beyond me. Why they didn't preset the list of categories is a mystery. I'm sure there were other issues with the new version of RevOnline, but I can't log in to try it out properly. Maybe LiveCodeOnline will be better. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Socket read problems
No good suggestion - but you might try multiple reads, each of one byte to see how many you get. -- Alex. On 08/10/2010 12:29, Len Morgan wrote: Dar, I wish it was that simple but the length of the message is only in one byte so it's pretty hard to swap. For test purposes, I have scrolling field where I print the progress of the conversation and I am displaying the correct length. Also, I've got WireShark on the line so I can look at the actual packets to make sure I'm picking the right bytes, etc. and all of that is ok. The only thing that seems "out of place" is that there is one more zero byte at the end of payload that fills out the data area to an even word boundry. This null byte is not part of the data and is not counted in the length byte that I'm reading. I believe that is part of the TCP/IP spec but it's been a long time since I've done a digital colonoscopy on network protocols so I could be mistaken. What ends up happening is that the socket read command is getting one more byte than I've asked for so I'm wondering if it hangs up when I try and close the socket since I still have one unread byte in the buffer. As it turns out, if I try and read that extra byte too, the result is the same: The read command will not finish until milliseconds have passed yet is never sends me a socketTimeout message. The particular slave I'm talking to is from a major commercial vendor (inventor of ModBus as a matter of fact) but as I recall, my own slave (built with an Arduino) suffered the same "problem." Is it possible that since I'm not using the callback on the read complete, that there is a bug in the read socket library? I will do some more experimentation today and report back what I find. I will also try and whip out a LiveCode slave and see if I can make it do the same thing on the same machine. That should be interesting. len morgan On 10/8/2010 12:42 AM, Dar Scott wrote: Could you have gotten the two length bytes swapped and are asking for way too many bytes? Dar Scott On Oct 7, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Len Morgan wrote: I'm trying to read data from a MODBus/TCP controller and having some issues with the timing of the read command. I request a block of registers from the slave and it returns the requested bytes and header just fine and very quickly. In order to read everything right, I have to first read the first 6 bytes of the header to know how many bytes are to follow. Once I know that, I do a read from socket tSock for characters. Note that ALL of the characters have been received in a single packet so once I read the 6 bytes, the rest of the data is already in the socket buffer. The problem I have is when I do the second read, the read command blocks for the socketTimeoutInterval before continuing. It doesn't matter what I set it to, it will wait that long before continuing. I tried catching the socketTimeout message but that message is never sent, even when I set the socketTimeoutInterval to 5 milliseconds! I am not using the read ... with message form of the command since I want the handler to wait until all the bytes have been received before I move on. Has anyone else seen this? Have I missed something in the documentation or could this be something in the Windows code that handles sockets? Any help would be appreciated! len morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Apache Log File analyzer
Before I re-invent the wheel . does anyone have a LiveCode script to analyze Apache log files ? Thanks, -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode
Hi Ruslan Personally, I have one project which audio playback and recording is central so having a cross platform (other than quicktime) solution is useful, particularly windows & mobile platforms. regards alex On 6/10/10 5:05 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: On 10/6/10 9:20 AM, "Alex Shaw" wrote: Hi Lynn Also, will/is it compatible with revmobile? Hi Alex, We did not considered yet revmobile ... What this means? Port to iphone? Others? This is much more job agree. Task is possible of course. If there is enough interest ... Iphone will be the most easy for us, because we have developers for it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode
Hi Lynn Also, will/is it compatible with revmobile? regards alex On 5/10/10 9:02 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Lynn, Really amazing. Even if i got exactly the same beta-glichies exposed by Bob, Franklin Audio seems very promising (OS X 10.6.4 MBP i7 15"). Will it be way to run it from within the webPlugin ? Best Regards, Pierre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: uuencode/uudecode
Sorry about the delay - I started this interesting exercise, but got
distracted .
Here's a simple script that handles uuencoding a file. It's been
moderately, but not thoroughly, tested.
on mouseUp
answer file "Select a file"
if it is empty then exit mouseUp
put URL ("binfile:" & it) into tOriginal
-- put "Cat" into tOriginal
put uuencode(tOriginal, "000", "text") into tEncoded
put tEncoded after field "fLog"
put CR & the number of chars in tOriginal && the number of chars in
tEncoded after field "fLog"
end mouseUp
function uuencode pData, pPermission, pName
put 1 into tBase
put "begin" && pPermission && pName & CR into tOutput
put the number of chars in pData into tLen
put numToChar(0) & numToChar(0) & numToChar(0) after pData
put empty into tLine
repeat until tBase > tLen-2 -- i.e. all full words before the padding
put charToNum(byte tBase of pData) * 256 * 256 into t
add charToNum(byte tBase+1 of pData) * 256 to t
add charToNum(byte tBase+2 of pData) to t
put numToChar((t mod 64)+32) into t4
put t div 64 into t
put numToChar((t mod 64)+32) into t3
put t div 64 into t
put numToChar((t mod 64)+32) into t2
put t div 64 into t
put numToChar(t+32) & t2 & t3 & t4 after tLine
if the number of chars in tLine = 60 then
put numToChar(the number of chars in tLine * 3 / 4 + 32) &
tLine & CR after tOutput
put empty into tLine
end if
add 3 to tBase
end repeat
if tLine is not empty then
put numToChar(the number of chars in tLine * 3 / 4 + 32) & tLine
& CR after tOutput
end if
put "`" & CR & "end" & CR after tOutput
return tOutput
end uuencode
On 23/09/2010 19:56, Phil Davis wrote:
Hi Matthias,
With LiveCode on Mac OS X you could use a shell() command and let the
'uuencode' line command do the work. Not sure about Windows... there
doesn't seem to be a direct way to uuencode a file - no 'uuencode'
command, nor any way to do it using PowerShell (AFAIK). Do you feel
like writing your own LC uu library? That should be doable.
More info about the uuencode spec:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuencoding
http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/uuencode.html
Phil
On 9/23/10 7:42 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
Hi,
how can i uuencode data with LiveCode?
Do i need 3rd party tools for that? i cannot find anything about it,
when searching the dictionary for uuencode.
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Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
Jan, Thank you for the explanation. I have implemented as you have suggested and it finally works. I think there were several conflicting directives colliding with one another. Now I am just declaring the location in the stackFiles and I had to adjust the start using command to not include the .rev. -- Alex Adams hawkVision yourVision of all the info in yourWorld A2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-724-1397 a...@a2technology.com www.a2technology.com > From: Jan Schenkel > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:33:43 -0700 (PDT) > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in > LiveCode? > > Hi ALex, > > You really shouldn't make the libraries substacks of your own stack, merely > add a reference to them in the stackfiles, as I explained. > Once you've done that, the standalone builder will automatically copy it to > the standalone folder at build time. > > qrtReportsLib.rev includes substacks of its own, and therefore cannot become a > substack of your mainstack. > > Jan Schenkel. > = > Quartam Reports & PDF Library for LiveCode > www.quartam.com > > = > "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time." (La > Rochefoucauld) > > > --- On Tue, 9/21/10, Alex Adams wrote: >> Jan, >> >> I tried what you suggested, but it still didn't work. >> I tried reassigning >> the mainstack of qtrReportLib to my main stack like >> Jacqueline recommended. >> That worked great with libUUID, but not with yours. >> Is it protected against >> such a thing? >> >> The only thing that has worked with qtrReportLib is to put >> a full path name >> into the start using stack statement. >> >> start using stack >> "/LiveCodeUserExtensions/qtrReportsLib.rev" >> >> Nothing short of this has worked. I'm concerned about >> what will happen when >> the standalones are built. Will I still need this >> stack installed on the >> user's computer in the expected directory? >> -- >> Alex Adams >> > > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tRev name change and site re-org
Thanks Jerry. Noticed only a OSX version for Remo (327), will you create a windows version? I still have major problems with tRev (325) on my Windows7 64bit machine. Is this a runrev or tRev problem? regards alex On 22/09/10 2:35 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: tRev users, Since Rev has changed its name to LiveCode, we have renamed tRev. We've been waiting in the wings with this. The new name is...[drum roll] Remo The remote-control object editor for LiveCode Has a nice, new icon that looks like...a remote control! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
Jan, I tried what you suggested, but it still didn't work. I tried reassigning the mainstack of qtrReportLib to my main stack like Jacqueline recommended. That worked great with libUUID, but not with yours. Is it protected against such a thing? The only thing that has worked with qtrReportLib is to put a full path name into the start using stack statement. start using stack "/LiveCodeUserExtensions/qtrReportsLib.rev" Nothing short of this has worked. I'm concerned about what will happen when the standalones are built. Will I still need this stack installed on the user's computer in the expected directory? -- Alex Adams hawkVision yourVision of all the info in yourWorld A2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-724-1397 a...@a2technology.com www.a2technology.com > From: Jan Schenkel > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:38:50 -0700 (PDT) > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in > LiveCode? > > Hi Alex, > > Open your project's mainstack, go to the 'Tools' menu and pick the item 'Stack > inspector' - then use the option menu at the top to switch to the 'Stack > files' panel. > There you can use the 'Folder' icon to add references to the libUUID.rev and > qrtReportsLib.rev stacks - from then on, you can easily 'start using' those > libraries with their short name. > As a bonus, the standalone builder will automatically include them when the > standalone applications are built. See also page 30 of the Quartam Reports > Manual pdf file :-) > > HTH, > > Jan Schenkel. > = > Quartam Reports & PDF Library for LiveCode > www.quartam.com > > = > "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time." (La > Rochefoucauld) > > > --- On Tue, 9/21/10, Alex Adams wrote: >> Sarah, >> >> I'm trying to do what you described. But how? >> Are you suggesting that I >> import the libUUID.rev and qtrReportsLib.rev as sub stack >> to the mainstack >> of my app? If so, I can't figure out how to do >> that. It must be easy >> -- >> Alex Adams >> >> >>> From: Sarah Reichelt >>> >>> While not an ideal solution, for the quick fix, can >> you include these >>> 2 stacks in the stackFiles of the mainStack that needs >> to access them? >>> Then that stack would know where they were and you >> could "start >>> using". >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Sarah >>> > > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
Sarah, I'm trying to do what you described. But how? Are you suggesting that I import the libUUID.rev and qtrReportsLib.rev as sub stack to the mainstack of my app? If so, I can't figure out how to do that. It must be easy???? -- Alex Adams hawkVision yourVision of all the info in yourWorld A2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-724-1397 a...@a2technology.com www.a2technology.com > From: Sarah Reichelt > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:30:46 +1000 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in > LiveCode? > > While not an ideal solution, for the quick fix, can you include these > 2 stacks in the stackFiles of the mainStack that needs to access them? > Then that stack would know where they were and you could "start > using". > > Cheers, > Sarah > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Alex Adams wrote: >> Did that. Set it to the last rev folder where they have been working fine >> all along. Still no go. >> -- >> Alex Adams > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
I'll try that and let you know in the morning. -- Alex Adams hawkVision yourVision of all the info in yourWorld A2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-724-1397 a...@a2technology.com www.a2technology.com > From: Sarah Reichelt > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:30:46 +1000 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in > LiveCode? > > While not an ideal solution, for the quick fix, can you include these > 2 stacks in the stackFiles of the mainStack that needs to access them? > Then that stack would know where they were and you could "start > using". > > Cheers, > Sarah > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Alex Adams wrote: >> Did that. Set it to the last rev folder where they have been working fine >> all along. Still no go. >> -- >> Alex Adams > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
Did that. Set it to the last rev folder where they have been working fine all along. Still no go. -- Alex Adams hawkVision yourVision of all the info in yourWorld A2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-724-1397 a...@a2technology.com www.a2technology.com > From: stephen barncard > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:28:10 -0700 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in > LiveCode? > > The confusion is because of the name change. Just go into the Livecode > preferences and set the user extensions setting to your old rev user > extensions folder and/or name them what you want. We haven't had to do this > for years. > > On 20 September 2010 16:15, Monte Goulding wrote: > >>>> Any ideas? I'm dead in the water until this is resolved. >>> >>> Put a "Plugins" folder inside the folder you declared in the User >>> Extensions preferences. Put your plugins into the Plugins folder. >> >> Aren't these both script libraries? If so then they should go in: >> /Resources/Script Libraries >> >> That will integrate them with the standalone builder. At least it did when >> I originally wrote the SB. The IDE Should provide options for loading these >> libraries at startup but it doesn't. I used to have a plugin for that but I >> haven't had time to maintain it for years. Make a quick plugin that parses >> the stacks in that folder at startup and starts using them and your set. >> >> Cheers >> >> -- >> Monte Goulding >> M E R Goulding Software Development >> Bespoke application development for vertical markets >> >> InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds >> revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > > > -- > > > > Stephen Barncard > San Francisco Ca. USA > > more about sqb <http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar> > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
Sorry, but that didn't work either. -- Alex Adams hawkVision yourVision of all the info in yourWorld A2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-724-1397 a...@a2technology.com www.a2technology.com > From: Mark Wieder > Organization: Ah, Software > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:34:39 -0700 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in > LiveCode? > > Alex- > > Monday, September 20, 2010, 1:22:57 PM, you wrote: > >> I tried creating a folder at the root level of the startup drive and >> declaring it in the preferences for the User Extensions path. > >> Any ideas? I'm dead in the water until this is resolved. > > Put a "Plugins" folder inside the folder you declared in the User > Extensions preferences. Put your plugins into the Plugins folder. > > -- > -Mark Wieder > mwie...@ahsoftware.net > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
I have now tried some more things. None work. I tried creating a folder at the root level of the startup drive and declaring it in the preferences for the User Extensions path. My thought was that the My LiveCode folder was not created during installation maybe because I designated that all users on the machine would have access to LiveCode, so it would not have put the folder in my user documents folder. Good thought, but it didn't work. I can't find anything in the preferences to change the installation to consider me the only user. I tried putting the .rev files in various places in the internal directory along with the stacks that shipped with the app. Still no joy. Any ideas? I'm dead in the water until this is resolved. Thanks in advance, -- Alex Adams hawkVision — yourVision of all the info in yourWorld A2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-724-1397 a...@a2technology.com www.a2technology.com > From: Alex Adams > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:29:44 -0700 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode? > > Thanks, but that did not work. There was no My LiveCode folder in my > documents folder. I created one and gave everyone permission to read/write. > I put libUUID.rev and qtrReportsLib.rev in there, but I get the same error > when a start using command is given. > > That is the folder designated in preferences. > > These do not cause the error and load properly: > start using stack "revDataGridLibrary" > start using stack "Data Grid Templates 1247708866452" > > Any other ideas? > -- > Alex Adams > > hawkVision — yourVision of all the info in yourWorld > A2 Technology Partners, Inc. > 831-724-1397 > a...@a2technology.com > www.a2technology.com > hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com > > >> From: Andre Garzia >> Reply-To: How to use Revolution >> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:01:39 -0300 >> To: How to use Revolution >> Subject: Re: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode? >> >> Alex, >> >> You can go to Preferences -> Files and set your extensions folder there. >> >> Or you can use the default one which is "My LiveCode" inside the documents >> folder. >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Alex Adams wrote: >> >>> Just downloaded the shiny new LiveCode onto my Mac Snow Leopard machine. >>> My >>> apps use libUUID.rev and qtrReportsLib.rev. >>> >>> In runRev 4.5 I keep them at the same level as the Revolution app and the >>> Externals and Resources folders. I have tried placing them at the same >>> level of these folders inside LiveCode.app, but no joy. >>> >>> What should I do? >>> -- >>> Alex Adams >>> >>> hawkVision ‹ yourVision of all the info in yourWorld >>> A2 Technology Partners, Inc. >>> 831-724-1397 >>> a...@a2technology.com >>> www.a2technology.com >>> hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com >>> >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
Thanks, but that did not work. There was no My LiveCode folder in my documents folder. I created one and gave everyone permission to read/write. I put libUUID.rev and qtrReportsLib.rev in there, but I get the same error when a start using command is given. That is the folder designated in preferences. These do not cause the error and load properly: start using stack "revDataGridLibrary" start using stack "Data Grid Templates 1247708866452" Any other ideas? -- Alex Adams hawkVision — yourVision of all the info in yourWorld A2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-724-1397 a...@a2technology.com www.a2technology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com > From: Andre Garzia > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:01:39 -0300 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode? > > Alex, > > You can go to Preferences -> Files and set your extensions folder there. > > Or you can use the default one which is "My LiveCode" inside the documents > folder. > > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Alex Adams wrote: > >> Just downloaded the shiny new LiveCode onto my Mac Snow Leopard machine. >> My >> apps use libUUID.rev and qtrReportsLib.rev. >> >> In runRev 4.5 I keep them at the same level as the Revolution app and the >> Externals and Resources folders. I have tried placing them at the same >> level of these folders inside LiveCode.app, but no joy. >> >> What should I do? >> -- >> Alex Adams >> >> hawkVision ‹ yourVision of all the info in yourWorld >> A2 Technology Partners, Inc. >> 831-724-1397 >> a...@a2technology.com >> www.a2technology.com >> hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > > > -- > http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
Just downloaded the shiny new LiveCode onto my Mac Snow Leopard machine. My apps use libUUID.rev and qtrReportsLib.rev. In runRev 4.5 I keep them at the same level as the Revolution app and the Externals and Resources folders. I have tried placing them at the same level of these folders inside LiveCode.app, but no joy. What should I do? -- Alex Adams hawkVision yourVision of all the info in yourWorld A2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-724-1397 a...@a2technology.com www.a2technology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What is the name of that function...
wrap but why do you want to avoid 'mod' ? -- Alex. On 18/09/2010 22:42, Tereza Snyder wrote: …that lets you cycle among a sequence of numbers without using mod? I've read through the functionnames three times but nothing seems to be it. Someone asked on the list not too long ago, and I said to myself, "Remember that!" and of course I remember saying that, but I don't remember…that. Somebody knows… what is it. t___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Waiting for DNS to update a new site.
Thanks to everyone who replied - it was very helpful. Stephen, I have had the same experience - propagation is very rapid (I also use both Dreamhost and on-rev :-) But in this case, the one person who actually matters is still not able to see her own website. I'm starting to think it's her computer, not DNS (though the web tool I mentioned says that 6 out of the 20 sites it uses worldwide still do not see the domain properly). I'll try Wayne's suggestions re. Windows / Firefox - or maybe just get her to switch off/on her computer and see if that helps. Thanks again -- Alex. On 15/09/2010 16:19, stephen barncard wrote: Propagation used to take days. These days it seems to take just minutes or hours at Dreamhost or ON-Rev. Your milage may vary On 15 September 2010 02:31, AndyP wrote: Hi Alex, I can see the page. I'ts going to be a DNS propagation delay...more info below: To speed up the internet, Internet Server Provider (ISP) caches their DNS Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb<http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar> ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Waiting for DNS to update a new site.
Off-topic - but I could do with a favour. I'm helping a friend develop a new web site, and although I created it a couple of days ago, it (apparently) isn't yet visible to her. I can't tell whether it's simply a DNS delay - just longer than I'm used to, or some other problem. So could a few of you let me know whether or not you can reach http://www.melaniechmielewska.co.uk (and if you can see it, any other comments are welcome; note the gallery and corbel photos are incomplete, but they will be there tomorrow ) And, to be slightly more general - anyone know of a service / website that will let you check DNS name visibility in a number of locations around the web ? I tried the one at http://www.mob.net/~ted/tools/dns.php3 but wasn't convinced it is very authoritative. Thanks -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [feature] did you guys knew that "?" is a valid character for function/command name?
Not quite. We specify pass-by-ref by using '@' in the handler specification; you can't use it in the calling script as Ben did in his example in the email. Ben wants to be able to use the '@' (presumably as an option, with no actual effect) in the calling script, to help remind him that the variable will/may be changed within the handler. -- Alex. On 07/09/2010 14:56, Andre Garzia wrote: Err, Ben, this is actually in place since forever... we can pass by references values with @ On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: This is very bad news for my long-held campaign to introduce '@' as an optional (but one day might be checked) prefix to a parameter, to indicate in the calling line that this is passed by reference. ie if functionWithSideEffects(tInput, @tOutput) then ... should allow the reader to know immediately that 'functionWithSideEffects' takes the second parameter by reference. On 05/09/2010 22:01, Mark Wieder wrote: Andre- Sunday, September 5, 2010, 11:37:46 AM, you wrote: Folks, Did you guys knew that "?" is a valid character for naming functions and commands? I just created a function like that and it works ...it gets worse... see bz #8048 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Copy field problem
Hi Richmond The problem is THAT particular saved stack ie http://www.harryscollar.com/teststack.rev .. is showing the problem. The stack I uploaded has not been binary edited in any way and was initially created by code from a project I'm working on. In the project the stack is a simple temporary, in-memory data stack, created whenever the application is started. When I noticed the problem I stripped all other elements from the stack so that only one of the problem fields was left and then saved it as a on-disk stack. Obviously this process of elimination still left me with a field that still wouldn't copy properly to another stack with the copy to stack command. btw it doesn't matter whether the destination stack is named or saved, I just wanted a quick test process for others to follow and replicate the problem. My concern is how/why the stack or field itself got corrupted so that it cannot be copied when the copy to stack command works fine in every other situation, regardless of the 'sharedText' property. Don't think I've tested the complete range of situations but enough to know something isn't right. regards alex On 31/08/10 8:17 PM, Richmond wrote: On 08/31/2010 12:37 PM, Alex Shaw wrote: Hi Jan Yes, that worked for me too. Fortunately, as a workaround, having 'sharedText' active for that particular field isn't going to cause any problems in this instance but I still think it's a bug of sorts with the 'copy' command. Using the copy field to stack command does not work for that strange stack (is it corrupted?) but if you just copy the field to the clipboard then paste to destination it does work as expected! ie. from the message box.. Instead of.. copy fld 1 of card 1 of stack "teststack" to card 1 of stack "Untitled 1" Why do I have a queer feeling that it might not be a bad idea to name and save the target stack prior to any copying? Just set up [RunRev 4.0, Ubuntu-Linux] 2 stacks: "teststack" and "target"; saved both. Popped a field "fF" on "teststack" and a button with the following script: on mouseUp copy fld "fF" of card 1 of stack "teststack" to card 1 of stack "target" end mouseUp bingo! tried the same in the Messagebox: copy fld "fF" of card 1 of stack "teststack" to card 1 of stack "target" bingo! quod erat demonstrandum old chap . . . :) This works.. copy fld 1 of card 1 of stack "teststack" create stack "new" paste hmm.. strange regards alex ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Copy field problem
Hi Jan Yes, that worked for me too. Fortunately, as a workaround, having 'sharedText' active for that particular field isn't going to cause any problems in this instance but I still think it's a bug of sorts with the 'copy' command. Using the copy field to stack command does not work for that strange stack (is it corrupted?) but if you just copy the field to the clipboard then paste to destination it does work as expected! ie. from the message box.. Instead of.. copy fld 1 of card 1 of stack "teststack" to card 1 of stack "Untitled 1" This works.. copy fld 1 of card 1 of stack "teststack" create stack "new" paste hmm.. strange regards alex On 31/08/10 6:30 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: --- On Mon, 8/30/10, Alex Shaw wrote: Hi Having a annoying problem with copying a field from a (specific) stack. See below for basic test stack with a single field with some content.. http://www.harryscollar.com/teststack.rev This unusual stack was initially created via code, stripped back of unneeded controls and saved. When I load this stack into the IDE, create a new stack and run the following command at the message box.. copy fld 1 of card 1 of stack "teststack" to card 1 of stack "Untitled 1" .. I get a blank field on the new stack! Yet when I copy and paste the field onto another new stack and try copying, it works and copies the contents too. It also works if I manually recreate a test stack with another test field. Very strange because any new field created on "teststack.rev" will now copy over to any other stacks with empty contents. I've checked relevant properties but nothing seems out of place. Argh! Starting to pull out my hair over this problem. regards alex It worked for me, once i set the 'sharedText' property of the field to true. My guess is that the copy command assumes that if this is false, you really didn't want the original text :-) HTH, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports& PDF Library for Revolution www.quartam.com = "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time." (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Copy field problem
Hi Having a annoying problem with copying a field from a (specific) stack. See below for basic test stack with a single field with some content.. http://www.harryscollar.com/teststack.rev This unusual stack was initially created via code, stripped back of unneeded controls and saved. When I load this stack into the IDE, create a new stack and run the following command at the message box.. copy fld 1 of card 1 of stack "teststack" to card 1 of stack "Untitled 1" .. I get a blank field on the new stack! Yet when I copy and paste the field onto another new stack and try copying, it works and copies the contents too. It also works if I manually recreate a test stack with another test field. Very strange because any new field created on "teststack.rev" will now copy over to any other stacks with empty contents. I've checked relevant properties but nothing seems out of place. Argh! Starting to pull out my hair over this problem. regards alex ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Functions for On-Rev
I saw your later post, but thought I'd mention it should be function titlecase pString rather than function titlecase, pString (i.e. no comma between name and parameter list) -- Alex. On 10/08/2010 17:33, Gregory Lypny wrote: Hello everyone, Is it possible to call a file of functions for On-Rev? I created a file called functions.irev. In it, I put a function that converts strings to title case. I then placed an HTML object on a web page with but unfortunately, I get nothing. Regards, Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: EXIF parser
Yes, I did one a few years ago. Wasn't complete but did successfully parse most EXIF tags. It was also relatively slow, and in the end I stopped developing it in favour of using an external exif decoder and parsing its output (I think it might even have been ExifTools, same as Mark S. described). If you still have version 3.5 installed, you can find it on the old RevOnline (I don't so I can't give you the exact name of where to find it, but it was under username 'alextweedly'). I've not had much success with the new RevOnline, so it never did get uploaded there :-( You can download it from http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5491671/libEXIFv0.9-released.rev -- Alex. On 31/07/2010 18:34, FlexibleLearning wrote: Has anyone written an EXIF parser in rev? I have wrestled with this for quite a while, but have to now admit defeat. Examples exist in a variety of languages such as C# (for example http://renaud91.free.fr/MetaDataExtractor/), but I cannot transliterate them. Hugh ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Interactive reverse graph plot
Sorry to sound obtuse, but I have been looking for what seems like it should be a simple tool or a program that contains the features to: Draw a graph line manually and have it generate/change the corresponding plot point data. Does that make since? I¹m creating some growth projections in a proforma and I know what the curve looks like that I want, but generating the data to create the curve is very time consuming. I want to be able to make adjustments by dragging points directly on the graph and have the supporting point data updated. I¹m not asking for suggestions on how to make such a tool. I want to find a tool that does this today so that I can work through these spreadsheets more naturally. Any suggestions? -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2technology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tRev and Win Vista
Hmm, been having same issue with tRev on a 64-bit windows7 desktop machine here plus many other issues. Which is a shame because it has the biggest monitor attached. Don't have 32-bit win7 but seems to work ok on 32-bit xp on a 64-bit machine (macbook via bootcamp). Back to 64-bit win7, tRev and Revolution 4.0 itself seem to occasionally leave 'ghost' processes when quitting, which requires going into task manager to kill. Haven't really noticed this with any standalones I've produced. regards alex On 24/07/10 5:04 PM, Martin Blackman wrote: Actually my bad, it doesn't work on Win 7 (64 bit) for me, only on vista (32 bit, no service packs installed)Hmm For some reason on Win 7 the user account control asks me if I want to allow tRev to make changes to the system when I run it, I don't get that on Vista On 24 July 2010 14:35, Martin Blackman wrote: works fine for me on Vista and Win 7 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sarah's scheduleMessage script.
I think the problems is that following
put pHours into item 4 of nextTime
put pMins into item 5 of nextTime
put 0 into item 6 of nextTime
convert nextTime to seconds
send pMessage to this stack in nextTime seconds
you have nextTime as the value "the seconds" WILL have when the command
should be executed; but when you do
send pMessage to this stack in nextTime seconds
you are asking to wait that many seconds.
I'd try changing it to
send pMessage to this stack in (nextTime - the seconds) seconds
and see if that does it.
-- Alex.
nextTime is the seconds
On 21/07/2010 23:33, Andrew Kluthe wrote:
Hey there!
I always forget to turn my p2p software on before I go to bed at night and I
have oodles of *legal* downloads that I need to catch up on. So, I decided
to try to make a simple timer that would open a program at a certain time
and close it again at a certain time everyday.
I came across Sarah Reichelt's scheduleMessage script on this list.
The problem I am having is, the messages get queued but they never disappear
from the pending messages queue and they never call the handlers I need. It
lets me know they are scheduled at correct times and I can see the messages
in the queue. Why aren't they executing?
the handlers for open and closing the program work just fine. They just
don't execute when they are supposed to.
I have included the entire script here for testing purposes:
on openUTorrent
launch "C:/Program Files/uTorrent/uTorrent.exe"
end openUTorrent
on closeUTorrent
set the hideConsoleWindows to true
get shell("taskkill /IM uTorrent.exe")
end closeUTorrent
on setTimer
scheduleMessage "openUTorrent", 17, 20
scheduleMessage "closeUTorrent", 17, 23
end setTimer
command scheduleMessage pMessage, pHours, pMins
-- pHours is in 24 hour time
put the seconds into nextTime
convert nextTime to dateItems
put item 4 of nextTime into tHourNow
put item 5 of nextTime into tMinsNow
if tHourNow> pHours or (tHourNow = pHours and tMinsNow>= pMins)
then add 1 to item 3 of nextTime
put pHours into item 4 of nextTime
put pMins into item 5 of nextTime
put 0 into item 6 of nextTime
convert nextTime to seconds
send pMessage to this stack in nextTime seconds
-- Uncomment these lines for testing:
convert nextTime to short system date and long time
answer pMessage& " scheduled for "& nextTime
end scheduleMessage
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Re: Checking the location of a moving object
No, it's not completely blocking. The problem is that the very first call to checkit is BEFORE the move starts, so the movingcontrols is empty, so the send doesn't happen. Should work (i.e. it does in my simple stack :-) if you change it to (the equivalent of) on mouseUp move button "B" to 300,300 in 9 seconds without waiting checkit end mouseUp Note that you need the "without waiting" in order that the first checkit gets done immediately, rather than after the move. -- Alex. On 19/07/2010 12:13, David Glasgow wrote: Hello folks. I am proposing to import data which will form a 'freehand' graphic containing about 5,000 data point loc pairs. I have made a marker to follow the curve using the move command, which works fine. However, I want the user to be able to select a threshold on the Y axis above and below which graphics change on screen. I therefore need to check the vertical position of the marker, so I did this: In the starting button: on mouseUp checkit move grc "marker" to the points of graphic "PPG" in 90 seconds end mouseUp and in the card script: on checkit put the loc of grc "marker"& "moving "& the movingcontrols -- check threshold here if the movingcontrols is not empty then send checkit to me in 1 tick end checkit I get the first loc for grc "marker" reported in the message box, but that's it. Is a move completely blocking or am I doing something wrong? If I can't use move in this way, any suggestions? Thanks David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scripting what should be a simple loop...
On 10/07/2010 00:43, Alex Tweedly wrote: put (fld "field" & i) into temp do "put temp into quote & "tVar" & quote & i Sorry - it doesn't need to be that complicated. you can just do put (fld "field" & i) into temp do "put temp into tVar" & i (And just in case there are more silly typos - here's the actual running code I used ... :-) on mouseUp repeat with i = 1 to 2 put (the loc of button "Button" & i) into temp do "put temp into tVar" & i put tVar1 && tVar2 & "!!" after msg end repeat end mouseUp -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scripting what should be a simple loop...
You do indeed need a 'do' statement - but the first half of the statement (dealing with the field) doesn't need it, only the second half. So I would find it more readable to do put (fld "field" & i) into temp do "put temp into quote & "tVar" & quote & i OK, it's marginally inefficient, but who cares compared to the readability :-) -- Alex. On 10/07/2010 00:34, Bob Sneidar wrote: You need a do statement. Otherwise you would need Macro Substitution which Runrev does not support. put "put fld"&& quote& "Field"& i& quote&& "of group"& quote& AllFields& quote&& "into tvar"& i into theCommand do theCommand -- careful of line wraps Easier to read is: put "put fld fieldi of group allfields into tvari" into theCommand replace "fieldi" with quote& "field"& i& quote in theCommand replace "allfields" with quote& "allfields"& quote in theCommand replace "tvari" with quote& "tVar"& i& quote in theCommand do theCommand -- remembering to check Bob for mistakes in his code Bob On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:23 PM, David C. wrote: Good grief! Will someone be so kind as to show me the proper way to format my script... Let's say I have the following 1 group named "AllFields" containing: 10 text fields, named Field1...Field10 10 temporary variables named tVar1...tVar10 All I want to do, using a loop, is to put the user supplied data contained in each field into the corresponding, like-named variable. I thought I could do something easy like this repeat for i = 1 to 10 put fld "Field"& i of grp "AllFields" into tVar& i end repeat I know that I've done this before, but so far I've yet to find the right format that will not cause an error when compiling the script -and- would greatly appreciate it if some kind soul would rescue me from this madness. FWIW, I recently had another fifty-something birthday, so I'm blaming it all on an increasing case of dementia. As in: "Dementia (meaning "deprived of mind") is a serious loss of cognitive ability in a previously unimpaired person, beyond what might be expected from normal ..." Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev 4.5 compiled (NOT) running on Windows 2000
This is a controlled distribution with consenting participants and have had no issues on other than Windows 2000. -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2technology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com > From: Mark Wieder > Organization: Ah, Software > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:14:12 -0700 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: RunRev 4.5 compiled (NOT) running on Windows 2000 > > Alex- > > Rev 4.5 is still in a very buggy developer release version. You > shouldn't be trying to ship apps to real customers using it. > > -- > -Mark Wieder > mwie...@ahsoftware.net > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RunRev 4.5 compiled (NOT) running on Windows 2000
I just got some feedback from customer trying to run one of our apps compiled in runRev 4.5 on Windows 2000. I forgot there ever was such a version of Windows! The app doesn¹t launch successfully. I assume this is a bad match for our app and there¹s nothing we can do but suggest the guy get a new computer? We certainly have no way of testing on a system that old. Does anyone have any experience with this? -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2technology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Having strange problem with the 'clone' command
On 07/07/2010 15:49, J. Landman Gay wrote: Björnke von Gierke wrote: You're running into the settings of the Rev IDE, these things will not apply in a standalone. Relevant bug: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3290 Interesting, I'm glad you knew about it. If the IDE is interfering with the dimensions, would it work to lock messages, reset the template object, and then clone? Seems like that might avoid IDE interference. Thanks everyone. That was indeed the problem, and "lock messages" is a good cure. Thanks again -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Having strange problem with the 'clone' command
I'm just trying to create a simple array of rectangles . I've created one (called, with great imagination :), "R1") which has all the correct characteristics, including a width and height of 8 But when I clone it to create my other shapes, the widths and heights all come out to 120 instead of 8. I can fix this up (as I do in the following code), but I don't understand why that would be necessary (or what other properties might be different from what I expect). repeat with y = 0 to 5 repeat with x = 0 to 4 put "_h01_" & x & y into tName clone grc "R1" set the name of it to tName put the width of grc tName && the width of grc "R1" & CR after field "F" set the loc of grc tName to 100 + 20*x, 150 + 20*y set the width of grc tName to 8 set the height of grc tName to 8 set the visible of grc tName to true put the width of grc tName && the width of grc "R1" & CR after field "F" put "grc" && quote & tName & quote && "and" & space after tGroupList end repeat end repeat what shows up in the field is 120 8 8 8 120 8 8 8 120 8 8 8 120 8 8 8 etc. I tried to create a tiny sample stack to show the problem, and initially succeeded, but at some point as I tried minor variations, it started working - and now I can't get it to fail again. The time it started working was when I changed clone invisible grc "R1" to simply clone grc "R1" but changing that back didn't cause the problem to recur. Any ideas ? Thanks -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Smokescreen.rev
Hi Simon The code is available @ http://smokescreen.us/demos/js/smokescreen.0.1.3-min.js Would be handy but just can't get into javascript :) regards alex On 1/07/10 12:55 PM, Simon Lord wrote: The project is about 6 weeks old I think. Been keeping my eye on it. Very curious to get my hands on the code to see how they are reassembling the graphics and code in JS. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Smokescreen.rev
Hi Here's a link to a good discussion on this i read recently.. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1395509 There is lots of good of debate on whether flash is dead/restrictive/etc and html5 is the future.. http://apiblog.youtube.com/2010/06/flash-and-html5-tag.html Personally flash is just another media format and a very rich one in flexibility and you aren't necessarily restricted to adobe tools for construction. There are lots of good open source projects out there and rev has positioned itself in a unique way by making sometimes obstruce language documentation freely available and with a bit of knowhow extract the cgi/engine component (3.5 & below) to use at no cost. It would be nice if rev supported flash as a native object because interacting with it via quicktime or revbrowser is a bit of labour at the moment but certainly not a priority when rev is flexible in its own way. regards alex On 1/07/10 4:25 AM, Simon Lord wrote: Not immediately related to RunRev but an enterprising person(s) wrote a Javascript service which can read a Flash SWF and decompile& run it in near-realtime. http://smokescreen.us/demo/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.3.3b released
Hi Ralf Keen to really get into revigniter a bit more seriously and like the documentation you've put together. Does it work with the newly available revserver or only with on-rev? regards alex On 1/07/10 6:51 PM, Ralf Bitter wrote: This version addresses issues related to XSS cleaning of encrypted cookie data. Info and download at: http://revigniter.com/ Ralf___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Line Numbers in Text Editor
The straightforward answer is using formattedText . but the deeper question is what line numbering you want for the lines when there is line-wrapping happening. For instance, if it is something like a source code editor, then the line numbers (IMHO) should be independent of the size of window currenty in use. For example, if I have the following text 1 My first line 2 this is a very long line of text that is going to be wrapped in a moment when I make the window narrow. 3 third line. Then when the window becomes narrow, do I *want* 1 My first line 2 this is a very long line of text that is going to be wrapped 3 in a moment when I make the window narrow. 4 third line. or do I want something like 1 My first line 2 this is a very long line of text that is going to be wrapped 2a in a moment when I make the window narrow. 3 third line. It really depends on whether you are numbering the lines of the window or the lines of the underlying text (or source code, or whatever); quite often, I suspect, it should be the latter. And in that case I don't know of any quick or easy way to figure out how the numbering should be done :-( -- Alex. On 25/06/2010 08:25, Justin Sloan wrote: I went with using a parallel field to add line numbers and it is working well. However, rev only counts the line numbers based on the delimeter. So if word warp is turned on you end up with more lines then there are actual line numbers. Does anyone know of a way to count all the lines, even the lines that are wrapped and not separated by the delimeter? - Justin On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Jeff Massung wrote: I used a parallel field in my Cryogen editor (http://massj.tumblr.com for video + screenshot). Worked out perfectly, and now that I've done it that way once, I actually wouldn't want to do it any other way in the future. Jeff M. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Justin Sloanwrote: I am planning to implement line numbers in a proprietary text editor that I wrote for in-house use. Problem is, I don't know how I am going to implement it. I thought about using a parallel text field, but there has to be an easier way. Any of you genius devs have any ideas? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev- for renaming files according to folder name
Sounds a perfect task for Rev. Here is a scrit I had lying around that
did something similar - modified to suit, tested VERY minimally and with
some debugging left in place :-)
Basically - modified by the tips of my fingers, so check it carefully
before using and watch for line wrap ..
local sCount
on mouseUp
set the defaultFolder to "/Users/alextweedly"
put empty into field "F"
put the folders into tFolders
repeat for each line F in tFolders
if the first char of F is not "." then
doOneFolder F
end if
end repeat
end mouseUp
on doOneFolder pFolder
put the defaultFolder into tWhere
set the defaultFolder to pFolder
put "do" && pFolder && the defaultFolder && the number of lines in
tAllFiles && the number of lines in tFiles & CR after field "F"
put 0 into sCount
put the detailed files into tAllFiles
repeat for each line L in tAllFiles
if isInteresting(item 1 of L) then
put L & CR after tFiles
end if
end repeat
put the defaultFolder && the number of lines in tAllFiles && the
number of lines in tFioles & CR after field "F"
sort lines of tFiles by item 4 of each -- is this same item on Win ?
repeat for each line L in tFiles
doOneFile pFolder, URLDecode(item 1 of L)
end repeat
set the defaultFolder to tWhere
end doOneFolder
function isInteresting pFile
--put "try " && pFile & CR after field "F"
if char 1 of pFile is "." then
-- put "nope" & CR after field "F"
return false
end if
if pFile contains ".png" then return true
if pFile contains ".jpg" then return true
if pFile contains ".bmp" then return true
if pFile contains ".doc" then return true
--put "Nope" & CR after field "F"
return false
end isInteresting
on doOneFile pFolder, pFile
add 1 to sCount
set the itemDelimiter to "."
put "rename" && pFolder && pFile && "-->" && \
format("%s%05d.%s", pFolder, sCount, item -1 of pFile) & CR
after field "F"
end doOneFile
-- Alex.
On 24/06/2010 17:59, Kurt Kaufman wrote:
I think that the following sounds like a good task for Rev; just want to make
sure:
OS: WinXP SP3
About 1300 folders at same level; each folder with 10-200 files of type
jpg,png,bmp,doc.
Would rename every file within folder to the name of that folder plus
incremented number, i.e.
name_of_folder1.jpg
followed by, potentially,
name_of_folder2.doc.
Important: The files would be renamed and sorted by creation date only, so that
name_of_folder1.jpg
would be newer than
name_of_folder2.doc.
I'm pretty sure that I could apply the programming WD-40 to my brain and
remember how to do this (would be a good exercise, also), but would appreciate
any tips, warnings, etc.
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Re: WWDC Keynote: HTML5 wide open for On-Rev & revServer
I guess I'm missing something here . It seems that if I write a Rodeo app and it uses HTML5 local storage, then there is a secuity issue because other Rodeo apps on the same server might be able to access the user's data when stored locally on his machine. But today I generally write desktop apps. The user's data is stored on (usually) his local disk. And any other desktop app he chooses to install can access that data. What's so different ? -- Alex. On 08/06/2010 18:10, Mike Bonner wrote: Actually, I believe the following (from the provided link) is what is being referred to: 7.2 Cross-directory attacks Different authors sharing one host name, for example users hosting content on geocities.com, all share one local storage object. There is no feature to restrict the access by pathname. Authors on shared hosts are therefore recommended to avoid using these features, as it would be trivial for other authors to read the data and overwrite it. Even if a path-restriction feature was made available, the usual DOM scripting security model would make it trivial to bypass this protection and access the data from any path. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Not so. No. Each developer has own space. If developer INVITES someone in...as a teammate, then they share. Vampire rules. Need an invite to join another developer. Best, Jerry Daniels Follow the Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Robert Mann wrote: For Rodéo apps, if each user shares a space on a common shared server, than all the local datas of user X are accessible to all different rodeo apps, So far I understood. Not reassuring! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Error in date convert
The following script fragment works OK on Mac (and I believe on Win, but cannot verify that right now) put "2010,1,0,0,0,0,0" into t convert t to system date put t but if I put this into an On-Rev script (i.e. an .irev scrip) it fails (silently - even the on-rev client debugger doesn't see any error, it just stops silently). (Works OK if I use "convert t to english date"). I will, naturally, send an error report to on-rev, but I was curious whether this is an on-rev problem or a Linux problem (or limitation), so if any Linux users can try it out and let me know I'd be grateful. Thanks, -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Datagrid mouseUps
I have a number of datagrids that behave in a way that is not intended and I¹m curious if there is a simple way to solve the problem. I have a mouseUp event the script of the datagrid. It works well except that it is triggered even when there is click in a scroll bar. I¹m imagining that changing the row style from a table to a form that I can move the event to the behaviors? I¹ll be making that change in the next version or so, but I¹d like to fix this the way it is first. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2technology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Google Drops Windows
Wow! -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2technology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com > From: stephen barncard > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:21:40 -0700 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: [OT] Google Drops Windows > > Another big shift: > > http://www.pcr-online.biz/news/33627/Google-drops-Windows > > -- > - > Stephen Barncard > San Francisco > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to deal with unplug from the LAN
Hmmm ... looks like you may have a problem with copy/paste in creating
this email. in "connectionStatus" the first if ...then...else cluae will
*always* cause a return, so the check for Airport never gets used. I
suspect the original code did the Airport check first, then the Ethernet
one - that would have been OK.
In general, can there not be more than one ethernet interface installed
- so why not check if *any* interface of the form"enx" ihas status active.
e.g. (typed direct into email - beware typos) ...
set the itemdel to ":"
repeat for each line L in tStatus
if char 1 to 2 of L = "en" & char 3 to -1 of (item 1 of L) is a
number then
put lineOffset (L,tStatus) into tTarget
put line ((lineOffset ("Status:",tStatus,tTarget))+tTarget) of
tStatus into tENstatus
if (item -1 of tENstatus) = " active" then
return "true"
end if
end repeat
return 'false'
-- Alex.
On 26/05/2010 18:16, Web Admin Himalayan Academy wrote:
With a tip from Andre, we solved this problem... it's really pretty
neat. Perhaps someone else may need this.
Mac Only
This queries the hardware-network interface and give you and instant
response... if the users just unplugs from the network or turns of her
airport, with a remote volume mounted... you want to be sure you don't
try to interact with the server...otherwise you will get a 2 minute
time out waiting before the system gives back the CPU to RunRev
Do this first: (disclaimer, any code I offer probably could be highly
optimized)
function connectionStatus
put shell("ifconfig") into tStatus
# Parse for ethernet status
put lineOffset ("en0:",tStatus) into tTarget
put line ((lineOffset ("Status:",tStatus,tTarget))+tTarget) of
tStatus into tEN0status
set the itemdel to ":"
if (item -1 of tEN0status) = " active" then
return "true"
else
return "false"
end if
# Check Airport-Wireless status
put lineOffset ("en1:",tStatus) into tTarget
put line ((lineOffset ("Status",tStatus,tTarget))+tTarget) of
tStatus into tEN1status
set the itemdel to ":"
if item -1of tEN1status = " active" then
return "true"
end if
end connectionstatus
Then all other places you need to interact with the server:
command CheckVarunaIsMounted
if connectionStatus() <> "True" then
answer "You appear to be offline line. Connect to the network by
ethernet or airport. Then try again." with "OK"
exit to top
else
put URL
"file:/Volumes/Varuna/WWW/*Sites/varuna.hindu.org/ping.txt" into
gControlFile
if gControlFile = "true" then
set the icon of btn "Connected" to 1097
put "true" into gVarunaMounted
set the uVarunaMounted of this stack to "true"
else
put "false" into gVarunaMounted
set the uVarunaMounted of this stack to "False"
set the icon of btn "Connected" to 1098
answer "Varuna is not mounted. Shall I mount it for you?"
with "OK"
mountVaruna
exit to top
end if
end if
end CheckVarunaIsMounted
command Checkin pFileName
CheckVarunaIsMounted
if the uVarunaMounted of this stack <> "true" then
answer "Sorry, Varuna is not mounted, you cannot check in
files." with "OK"
exit to top
end if
# increment revision number; change co to CI; retain user initials;
rename local file
put pFileName into tNewFileName
etc...
end checkIn
Then I always run this every time I set the default folder to the
server, when done getting the file listing:
command unTetherStackFromServer
set the defaultFolder to ($Home&"/Documents/")
end unTetherStackFromServer
and then the user gets no msg saying he can't unmount the volume
because it is in use by RunRev.
HTH somebody...
Sivakatirswami
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Testing a DB connection
Does anyone have a simple technique for testing to see if a DB connection is still functioning before trying to use it to execute some SQL? I have an app that accesses hosted databases directly (postgres). Users logon at app startup. If they let the app sit for long enough, the connection to the DB server is dropped. This is reasonable, but I want a simple way of testing to see if the connection has been dropped and if it has to reestablish the connection transparently before executing SQL statements. I need a simple isDBStillThere handler. Is anyone doing anything similar? Thanks, -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2technology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Monitor Shell Copy File Progress
First thought : I thought (according to Dictionary) that "shell" would
wait until the command was complete before returning - dictionary says
The current handler pauses until the shell returns its result. If the
command was successful but did not return anything, the shell function
returns empty.
Second try : why take a checksum, why not just use the file size ?
Getting the checksum may involve copying the file from the remote server
into your laptop to calculate the checksum.
Third try : instead of doing "shell 'cp file ' " could you do
load url ("file:" & tRemotepathname)
check the cachedURLs
put url("file:" & tRemotepathname) into url('file:" & tLocalfilename)
-- Alex.
On 22/05/2010 23:35, Sivakatirswami wrote:
Work working on an in-house file manager - RCS for Indesign (since
Adobe did an "end of life" for Version Cue)
It's coming along well, in fact really well.
One challenge is that I'm using lots of these:
put ("mv " & quote & gLocalFilePath & quote &" "& quote &
(gLocalProjectPath& "/"& tShortFileName) & quote) into tShell
get shell (tShell)
put ("cp " & quote & (gLocalProjectPath& "/"& tShortFileName) &
quote &" "& quote & (gServerProjectPath& "/"& tShortFileName) & quote)
into tShell
get shell (tShell)
to more files around and rename them... it works great.
Is there a way to monitor a background shell process like this?
The problem is if you copy from the Big Server on the LAN... to my
Little MacBook Pro... you won't know when the file is completely
copied to the local hard drive before doing:
launch (gLocalProjectPath &"/" & pFileName) with the
uInDesignPath of this stack
Typically RunRev will issue the unix cp command and then immediately
launch inDesign, which "crokes" because the file is incomplete on the
local hard drive.
Now I have some ideas about how to do this: get the checksum some of
the remote file, do a send in 30 ticks (repeatedly) test of the local
file until the local file's checksum matches the remote file and then
launch it.
But before I go after this, I was wondering if anyone had any other
method? Most "cool" would be a progress bar, but I'm not sure RunRev
can monitor a local unix copy file processor, if it can, how to do
it.
Thanks!
Sivakatirswami
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Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address
On 17/05/2010 23:48, Bob Sneidar wrote: That's because you connect to the internet without a gateway/router/firewall, in which case there is no public IP. I would rectify that situation pronto. No one should connect directly to the internet these days. No, it doesn't necessarily imply that there is no router/firewall. It does imply there is no NAT function in the router/firewall, but it's perfectly possible, and in fact still fairly common, to have public IP = local IP. Most common in medium to large companies which got in early in the IP address space race, and have more than enough addresses to have no need for address sharing/translation; however, it's also possible for any home user who buys dedicated IP address(es) service from their ISP, say if they want to run their own servers. And of course you can have a transparent firewall (e.g. Cisco PIX or ASA) either in your own network or in the service provider's regardless of whether or not you have NAT in the router. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address
On 14/05/2010 20:17, Jeff Massung wrote: This still doesn't [fully] work. While not the local IP address, you'd still have to perform NAT traversal in order to do any actual communication with the client machine (read: anything useful). At best, with this IP address you can find out the general county/city the client machine is located in. You can't even do that fully reliably. It gets fooled by VPN connections and multi-homed campus networks, as well as other obscure configs. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Strange results in deletion of lines
On 11/05/2010 04:51, David C. wrote: Then I get to build a second version that keeps the deleted "F" items in place while removing everything else. Oh what a joy. ;-) As Geoff demonstrated, the efficient way to do this is with "repeat for each line ..." and build up a new output variable. This is doubly true if you also need to do something with the deleted "F" lines repeat for each line L in tMyData if char 1 of L = "F" then process L put L & CR after tOutputFLines else process L differently put L & CR after tOutputNonFLines end if end repeat -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile
Touche' -- Alex Adams hawkVision — tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2technology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com > From: François Chaplais > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 20:44:48 +0200 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile > > > Le 11 mai 2010 à 19:11, Kevin Miller a écrit : > >> On 11/05/2010 17:57, "Bob Sneidar" wrote: >> >>> I submitted my 2 cents. Just a note here, it will not serve us well to use >>> this as an opportunity to flame Apple or Steve Jobs. Please keep your posts >>> civilized and hopeful. >> >> I certainly wouldn't want to see people flame Apple or Steve Jobs. If you >> have some constructive feedback for him I'm sure there would be no harm >> sending it. Lets keep it professional. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Kevin >> >> Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ >> RunRev - Software construction for everyone >> >> > Right. > > I have read many things bad about Apple on this list. I, personally, do not > resent Apple for the decision they made. I very much understand Apple's point > of view and the fact that they value very much their independence. This is the > same attachment to independence, I feel, that have lead some people to react > so strongly to Apple's decision. Well, conflicts of interest are not new. > > Please stop these post "Beware Apple; I am going to develop for android". As > far as I am concerned, I have heard the message. I guess everybody who has > read the list last week got the message. And my mother has strictly forbidden > me to express my opinion on android and related Google ventures. > > Retrospectively, I'd rather have kept the 700€ I spent on revMobile to buy > what is soon to be my iPad. But, at the time, revMobile for the iPhone had me > convinced, and I do not regret supporting runrev on this opportunity. Well, > you can't win them all. > > I am happy to learn that runrev will pay some attention to field formatting > and perhaps an a number of request that are pending at qacenter. > > Best regards, > François > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: MacBookPro advice needed.
I'd like advice in two areas . 1. Should I buy the 13-inch or the 15-inch ? I can compare the screen sizes, and the resolution and even the relative weights. But I don't have a realistic idea of how much faster the Intel i5 is over the older Dual Core. So any advice about performance, or pointers to reliable benchmark sites for Mac ? 2. I plan to dual-boot or triple-boot OSX, Win 7 and Linux (some kind). Probably just using Bootcamp, but I might want to use VmWare or other VM later. Any advice on setting the machine up to make this easy ? Thanks -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Heather Are You All OK with the Ash!
Sivakatirswami wrote: Just checking... last time the ash was a disaster for Scotland... is our RunRev Team OK? It's not causing any problems here other than the shutting down of air space (and hence just about all air travel). So unless the Rev team are travelling, and can't get home, there should be no problem for them. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revMail in Windows
Sarah Reichelt wrote: I can't get all the data I need in my bug report down to 1000 characters, so does anyone know of an alternative way to send emails on Windows? I want it to go through the user's mail client as I ask them to supply additional information and attach screen shots. Otherwise I could use an irev script on my web site. It's kind of lame, but copy the data you want to send to the clipboard, use revmail with a very short message (something like " now please Paste in the data from the clipboard") -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Question about RevMobile
Richard Gaskin wrote: FWIW, I picked up a netbook a few months ago and have been very happy with it. It weighs only slightly more than an iPad, cost about $200 less, has a physical keyboard, the screen is self-supported so I don't need to hold it with one hand while typing with the other, it folds up nicely so I can stuff it in my shoulder bag without worrying about screen damage, and best of all it comes bundled with an entire computer. :) I can run anything I want on it: I'm learning R right now and it's nice to be able to have it available on every computer I use. And of course Rev runs well there, even though I've set my netbook up with Ubuntu. I used to use the standard Ubuntu for my netbook until I discovered the Ubunutu Netbook Remix, optimized in both architecture and UI for netbooks - you can learn more about it here: <http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr> You may find Ubuntu more Mac-like than Windows, but there are plenty of Windows-based netbooks as well if you prefer, and pretty much all netbooks are dirt cheap (usually between US$300 and US$500). And you can not only run Rev on a netbook, you can use the IDE as well. I've enjoyed many a cappuccino while coding at my corner bakery. :) I thought the reason that netbooks were so cheap was because they were under-powered, or under-spec'ed. Do you find them (or it) adequate for general use ? Does it run the full Rev IDE reasonably (I know you use a fairly minimalist one most of the time) ? Thanks -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Replace command
David Coker wrote:
There seems to be an easy consensus, so that's the direction I'll take
my code...
Up until now I have never attempted using the wordOffset function for
the small things I've been building with Rev, so I guess it's time to
work it into my coding routines for the future.
Thank you folks so much for the advice and samples!
Be a little bit careful here
the original script you posted (i.e. using replace) will replace the
string "Piper" with "Jones" - regardless of whether it is an entire word
on its own or not.
so "abc Piper def" would become "abc Jones def", but also "abc
ghiPiperjkl def" would become "abc ghiJonesjkl def".
However, using wordoffset as described here will replace the entire
word, so "abc ghiPiperjkl def" would become "abc jones def" !!
If you only want to replace Piper when it is the entire word, you can
set wholeMatches (q.v.) true to get around this.
If not, then you might instead do
put offset("Piper", tContainer) into tStart
put "Jones" into char tStart to tStart+4 of tContainer
-- Alex.
put "Jones" into char (charoffset
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Re: Identifying a certain Windows machine
J. Landman Gay wrote: Alex Tweedly wrote: Joe F. wrote: Wow- that is some answer. Thank you Monte. I was actually expecting something like "getSystemID" to be built into Revtalk, but... You inspired me to make myself a script library. Note this approach works 99% of the time, but can go wrong (or at least be very confusing) if the user has installed any devices which have an in-built MAC address (e.g. a USB Wifi card, perhaps to get better reach than the in-built wifi gets, he says from experience :-). This may be the MAC address reported first, giving an "ID" which can later change. Monte's script looks at interface en0. Does your Wifi card register on that one? On OS X it looks at en0, but on Windows it does a search for "Physical address", so it uses the first one it happens to find (which is not always the LAN cards). -- Alex ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Clipboard Link
Sounds really interesting Mark. I'll definitely use it. But I won't use it for code testing - it's just too easy (for someone as easily distracted as me) to finish up with slightly different code on each machine :-( I use Dropbox (www.dropbox.com) to automatically sync all my machines - happens automatically in the time it takes to walk across the room to the other machine. -- Alex. Mark Schonewille wrote: Grrr... you probably want to know where you can download this little app: http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com Op 30 mrt 2010, om 01:27 heeft Mark Schonewille het volgende geschreven: Hello, Economy-x-Talk has released a new little gem: Clipboard Link. Clipboard Link enables you to share the contents of the clipboard of your computer with other computers on the same local network. Copy a text or picture on one computer and paste it on any computer connected to your network. Because I often develop software on two or more computers simultaneously, I frequently want to test the same code on multiple machines. Clipboard Link lets me copy a script on my MacBook and paste it on my Windows PC for example. Anyone who has ever been in the same situation might want to check out Clipboard Link. (Made with Revolution). -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Identifying a certain Windows machine
Joe F. wrote: Wow- that is some answer. Thank you Monte. I was actually expecting something like "getSystemID" to be built into Revtalk, but... You inspired me to make myself a script library. Note this approach works 99% of the time, but can go wrong (or at least be very confusing) if the user has installed any devices which have an in-built MAC address (e.g. a USB Wifi card, perhaps to get better reach than the in-built wifi gets, he says from experience :-). This may be the MAC address reported first, giving an "ID" which can later change. It might be better to do a filter on ""Physical address" and then regard each of the physical addresses as valid IDs (disregarding the 00-00-00-00-00-00 ones for virtual adapters). And as Peter said, a smart user can find a way around it anyway, a smart and malicious user will definitely get around it. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Deleting Data Woefully Slow
Mark Wieder wrote: Alex- Thursday, March 25, 2010, 5:57:48 PM, you wrote: delete line -1 requires search for every CR (i.e. scan every char in the whole large piece of data) adjust some pointer to truncate Not necessarily. See my response to Richard. I'd find the end of the text and work my way back. You're right Mark. When I said "requires" I should have said "currently does" - or even "appears to currently do" :-) It looks like it would be a worthwhile change to use rindex (or equivalent) for all references to "line -N". -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Deleting Data Woefully Slow
Kay C Lan wrote: On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Moreover, Raney once noted that he took the time to optimize "put...after..." specifically for cases like yours, so it could be used in conjunction with "repeat for each" to build a subset of data. Richard, any thoughts as to why delete line -1 is so so much slower than delete line 1? Seems illogical. delete line 1requires search for 1st CR (i.e. scan 30-80 chars) either : copy from there to the end (i.e. move each character). or: manipulate some pointer to say where the data starts I don't know which of these rev does. delete line -1 requires search for every CR (i.e. scan every char in the whole large piece of data) adjust some pointer to truncate Scanning is much slower than simply copying. You can see this by comparing the times for put the milliseconds into tStart repeat K timeScale put the number of lines in largeData into t end repeat put the milliseconds - tStart & CR after field "F" put the milliseconds into tStart repeat K times put largedata into t end repeat put the milliseconds - tStart & CR after field "F" -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: socket write/read conflict?
Nicolas Cueto wrote: Hello List, I've made a quiz-type game where 2-6 students on client stacks buzz in their answers to a server stack, all on a local network. The server stack, as well as sending out the questions, informs live to all the students/client-stacks about who buzzed in what. I thought I had it working until we found a problem. If two out of six students happen to buzz in an answer almost simultaneously (by clicking a button on a game controller pad), as expected five of the students will receive the server's message about who buzzed in first, but one of those two students who buzzed at the same time won't. Except for this simultaneity, all other server-to-client communications work. After trying to track this down for weeks, I'm posting here in hopes of some list magic. My guess, as the subject line reads, is that a client stack might be writing to a socket at the same time that the server is trying to write to that same socket. But, not understanding well how sockets work, the problem may lie elsewhere. I think I've eliminated the obvious types of mistakes, but... So, I am including below the essence of what my server and script stacks do. It is quite long, so apologies beforehand. I'm afraid I can't see anything that looks like it could cause your problem. What I'd do if it were me is : 1. add a logging capability to the 'chatreceived' handler on chatReceived s,data if gLoggingFile then put the millisecs && s && data &CR after URL gLoggingFile end if ## Student/client has sent a message. ## Perhaps it's a choice/answer ... 2. add a similar log/debug to broadcastToAllClients 3. see what you find out :-) Also, a couple of comments - some probably just artefacts of summarizing the script to send to us. 1. In chatreceived (and clientConnected), you do read from socket s with message chatReceived which would only read one character (according to the docs). I guess you really do a "read until someChar ?? 2. In clientConnected, you do wait 50 milliseconds with messages ## Bug? Without this line, read from socket takes a long time ## and returns empty. read from socket s for 1 line I would recommend that you NEVER do a blocking read in a server. I'd make that something like read from socket s until CR with message gotClientIdentification and put the remaining code into gotClientIdentification (or siply add it to the logic in chatreceived). And I'm pretty sure you can then remove the "wait 50 msec with messages" 3. In the array gAllClientIPsArray, it seems that the 3rd item of each entry will always match the key of the array, because of put tChatMessage & comma & s into gAllClientIPsArray[s] That just seems like duplicate effort (and a possible source of error / confusion). Why not leave that out, and just use the key ? 4. If you do #3, then you can simplify on broadcastToAllClients message ## Tell all the students/clients who made what choice. put keys(gAllClientIPsArray) into tChatterList repeat for each line tArrayKey in tChatterList put gAllClientIPsArray[tArrayKey] into tArrayDataLine -- the client ID, the student ID, the client IP -- eg, Blitz-1,1,127.0.0.1:1448 put item 3 of tArrayDataLine into tSocket write message to socket tSocket end repeat to on broadcastToAllClients message ## Tell all the students/clients who made what choice. repeat for each key tSocket in gAllClientIPsArray write message to socket tSocket end repeat end broadcastToAllClients (Again, this may be due to summarizing, and there may be more to do here - but even then it would likely be repeat for each element tArrayDataLine in gAllClientsIPsArray -- do something to send to this client ) Hope that helps a little bit. Try the logging / debug code and see what happens (and let us know if it shows anything and we can help with analyzing it :-) -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: InetBrowser and sound
The brower stack is a companion to a stack that manages URL records. When a URL record is loaded, the browser is first closed if open, then reopened and the new URL put in the address of the browser stack. I'm not sure what code I should be posting. I am not aware of any multiple instantiation going on. -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2tecnology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com > From: Mark Schonewille > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:23:15 +0100 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: InetBrowser and sound > > Alex, > > Are you positive that you are loading a new page in the same browser > instance, rather than creating a new instance for each page? > > Could you post your script? > > -- > Best regards, > > Mark Schonewille > > Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering > Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer > > Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development > projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. > > Op 15 mrt 2010, om 17:19 heeft Alex Adams het volgende geschreven: > >> When I go to a page in the InetBrowser that has sound it starts >> playing >> fine, but when I close the InetBrowser window or load another page >> the sound >> does not stop playing. In fact, if I go to a series of pages with >> sound, >> the sound tracks from all the pages play simultaneously. >> >> Tacky... >> >> Any ideas? >> -- >> Alex Adams > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
InetBrowser and sound
When I go to a page in the InetBrowser that has sound it starts playing fine, but when I close the InetBrowser window or load another page the sound does not stop playing. In fact, if I go to a series of pages with sound, the sound tracks from all the pages play simultaneously. Tacky... Any ideas? -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2tecnology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quartam Reports Image Path
Jan, I tried setting the defaultFolder to that in which the report file and the image are located. I did this at the beginning of the mouseUp handler in the data broker button. I then just put the name of the image file into to source property of the image in the report file. I also tried putting ./and the image file name. Neither worked. Any ideas? -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2tecnology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com > From: Jan Schenkel > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:26:06 -0800 (PST) > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Quartam Reports Image Path > > --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Alex Adams wrote: >> I am including an icon in each >> Quartam report that I am building. The image >> path stored in the report files are literal. How do I >> store a relative >> path? >> >> Thanks, >> -- >> Alex Adams >> > > Hi Alex, > > You're not per se limited to absolute paths - if you specify a relative path > in the filename field, the revEngine will look for your image in a few places. > Check out the 'defaultFolder' property in the docs. > > HTH, > > Jan Schenkel > = > Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution > <http://www.quartam.com> > > = > "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time." (La > Rochefoucauld) > > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Quartam Reports Image Path
I am including an icon in each Quartam report that I am building. The image path stored in the report files are literal. How do I store a relative path? Thanks, -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2tecnology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Row count in datagrid
My mistake. Once I rebuilt the list, it worked fine. Thanks, -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2tecnology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com > From: Alex Adams > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:18:01 -0800 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Row count in datagrid > > put the dgNumberOfLines of group "dgConnectedList" of card > "crdConnectedList" of stack "stkConnections" into rowCount > Always equates to 0 > > What am I doing wrong? > -- > Alex Adams > > hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems > > (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. > 831-726-8013 > a...@a2tecnology.com > hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com > universalConnector.wordpress.com > > >> From: zryip theSlug >> Reply-To: How to use Revolution >> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:53:49 +0100 >> To: How to use Revolution >> Subject: Re: Row count in datagrid >> >> 2010/3/12 zryip theSlug : >>> 2010/3/12 Alex Adams : >>>> Simple question. How do I determine the row count in a datagrid? I¹ve >>>> searched through the manual, but I can¹t find it. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> -- >>>> Alex Adams >>> >>> >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>> Have you tried : >>> >>> put the number of lines of the dgProp["columns"] of group "myDataGrid" >>> >>> Note : The columns property return a line delimited list of columns in >>> your grid. >> >> Why I have read columns ?? >> >> For row, have you tried the dgNumberOfLines property? >> >> >> Regards, >> -- >> -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) >> http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Row count in datagrid
put the dgNumberOfLines of group "dgConnectedList" of card "crdConnectedList" of stack "stkConnections" into rowCount Always equates to 0 What am I doing wrong? -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2tecnology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com > From: zryip theSlug > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:53:49 +0100 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Row count in datagrid > > 2010/3/12 zryip theSlug : >> 2010/3/12 Alex Adams : >>> Simple question. How do I determine the row count in a datagrid? I¹ve >>> searched through the manual, but I can¹t find it. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -- >>> Alex Adams >> >> >> Hi Alex, >> >> Have you tried : >> >> put the number of lines of the dgProp["columns"] of group "myDataGrid" >> >> Note : The columns property return a line delimited list of columns in >> your grid. > > Why I have read columns ?? > > For row, have you tried the dgNumberOfLines property? > > > Regards, > -- > -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) > http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Row count in datagrid
Simple question. How do I determine the row count in a datagrid? I¹ve searched through the manual, but I can¹t find it. Thanks, -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2tecnology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com universalConnector.wordpress.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMobile first impressions?
Hi Sarah Thanks for the all the updates. For those who haven't seen it.. http://www.tuaw.com/2010/03/05/revmobile-write-iphone-and-ipad-apps-without-knowing-objective/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+weblogsinc%2Ftuaw+%28The+Unofficial+Apple+Weblog+%28TUAW%29%29 Hmm.. might be time to buy an iphone. regards alex On 6/03/10 3:33 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: I've now installed my test stack on my iPhone and some of the results are a bit different: I can list the files in the default folder (which is in the app bundle) but I can't create a new file there. I can't download either a file or a web page from the internet. Multi-touch definitely works. Shaking definitely works. Rotation does nothing. Accessing the photo library works but is quite slow to display a selected picture. The rest is all as I reported earlier. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: socket error 54?
Jim Bufalini wrote: Alex Tweedly wrote: What is error 54? Error 54, sometimes known as 10054 or sometimes as 20054 is a hard one to deal with. It means: Connection reset. (i.e. by the other guy) - When I first saw the post by Richard, I wondered, because I have seen and trap for errors like 10053 (connection to server dropped) and 10061 (no server available on this port), etc. in my *ON socketError pSocket, pError* handler. But, I had not seen an error of just 53 or 54 or... (or at least I didn't think I had). Alex, Any way of knowing if an error is going to be reported as 10054, 20054 or just 54? What generates this socket error number? Rev? The platform? The server? It makes a difference to my switch statement. ;-) Don't know for sure, but I believeWin consistently reports socket error numbers as 100xx, while I think (maybe) Mac reports them as simply xx Linux - no idea. Maybe parse out and switch on the last two digits of the error number ?? -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: survey
Mikey wrote: Oh, here we go! Nice catch Klaus. I did also say "don't" though in my original post, if we're gonna start tweaking each other over my original tweak. Have a great day, guys. It was (IMHO) a fair tweak - I *should* have said "Sure you did, fairly recently." rather than "Sure you do." BTW, is "fortnight" still used in jolly old Mother England? Yes, still in common usage there, and also here in Scotland. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: socket error 54?
Richard Gaskin wrote: Bernard Devlin wrote: It may be easier to just use my Dreamhost account for this, where it works great all the time with files of any size and type. Or create a CGI on Dreamhost that will relay a file on to another site such as BH. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: socket error 54?
Richard Gaskin wrote: What is error 54? "Connection reset by peer". But does peer mean the server or your app? Is it a timeout thing? It is the server. Can be a timeout, can be policy, can be timeout induced by rate-limiting, can be ... darn hard to figure out :-( Thanks, Sarah. FWIW, I've found that I can upload the file to the same server without difficulty at home, it's only here in the office that the connection times out. I think it may be a router thang, but I've reviewed those settings and I can't turn up anything that seems relevant. But oddly enough, I find that I can upload the same file to Dreamhost without difficulty; it's only with Bluehost that I have this issue. :( btw - in my other email, I said it meant that you had received a RST packet; that's normally the cause, but that's not the *only* way it can happen. Does it happen every time ? At the same point in the file ? Are you using same machine in both locations ? Same App, OS, etc. ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: survey
Mike Kerner wrote: Just a note - because I can google it if i really care, but what the hell - oh sorry - what the bloody hell is a fortnight? As other have said, two weeks. Sorry, over here in the colonies we don't use such hooey. Sure you do. VMS (i.e. DEC systems, based in Mass) were well known for the joke of having timings defined in microfortnights (pretty close to one second). -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: socket error 54?
Richard Gaskin wrote: I have a weird connection which drops my socket about 25MBs into a 34MB upload using libURL. The session transcript ends with: socket error |6927 Error 54 reading socket What is error 54? Error 54, sometimes known as 10054 or sometimes as 20054 is a hard one to deal with. It means: Connection reset. (i.e. by the other guy) - i.e. you receiveed a reset (RST) packet. Connection reset by peer. An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host. This normally results if the peer application on the remote host is suddenly stopped, the host is rebooted, the host or remote network interface is disabled, or the remote host uses a hard close (see *setsockopt* <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms740476%28VS.85%29.aspx> for more information on the SO_LINGER option on the remote socket). This error may also result if a connection was broken due to keep-alive activity detecting a failure while one or more operations are in progress. Operations that were in progress fail with WSAENETRESET. Subsequent operations fail with WSAECONNRESET. Can also happen if you go over a policy limit on uploads, or similar. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading/Deleting Last Line Of File
Richard Gaskin wrote:
Jim Bufalini wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
But FWIW, I tried your version and it seemed to leave the file
unchanged
If your original file ends in a cr then Alex's code would end in
absolutely
no change. ;-)
Thanks, Jim. I tried it both ways; no change to the file's contents,
although the mod date gets updated so I know it's trying.
I strongly suspect it only works on Windows :-( Sorry.
I don't have either a Mac or Linux box to try it on, however I did just
try it on the on-rev server (as an .irev script) and it also appears to
leave the file unchanged there.
In fact, it gives an error ("error in offset expression") on the seek,
because the test file is less than 1000 chars - an error which didn't
get flagged up on Windows. I changed the line from
seek tFileLength-K in file pFile
to
if tFileLength-k > 0 then seek tFileLength-K in file pFile
to avoid the error. But it then leaves the file unchanged.
I suspect the *trick* of opening a file for append, then seeking back
into the middle of the file before doing a write is OS-dependent. It's
certainly not documented (either way), and I was surprised when Jim said
that it could be done.
Intuitively, 'append' should mean that the existing file is unchangable
- all you can do is add to it.
Playing around some more, it appears that the results of write to file
in these odd cases are not always what you'd expect.
I would have expected the following two fragments to be equivalent
seek to 2 in file "b.txt"
write "x" to file "b.txt"
and
write "x" to file "b.txt" at 2
to be equivalent, but they are not. The latter truncates the file after
the write, but the former does not (in Windows).
Could you try this in your multi-line msg box and let me know what it
does on Mac ?
put "abcdefg" & CR into URL "file:b.txt"
put URL "file:b.txt"
open file "b.txt" for append
write "x" to file "b.txt" at 2
close file "b.txt"
put URL "file:b.txt" after msg
on Win, it produces
abcdefg
abx
Thanks
-- Alex.
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Re: Reading/Deleting Last Line Of File
Jim Bufalini wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
But FWIW, I tried your version and it seemed to leave the file
unchanged
If your original file ends in a cr then Alex's code would end in absolutely
no change. ;-)
That's not what my testing showed (or appeared to show). Here's the
short version of the test script, and the corresponding output
note the first example has a single final CR, the second has no CR and
the third one has multiple CRs, and each is correctly truncated.
(I missed a few test cases here - empty file, single line of data, etc.
but it is only "reasonably tested")
The test stack can be downloaded from
http://www.tweedly.org/deletelastline.rev
(btw - I don't currently have access to a mac, so it's only tested on
Windows. Could that cause the different result for Richard ?)
on mouseUp
put empty into field "F"
put "abcdefg" & CR into t
put "1234567" & CR after t
put t into URL ("file:a,b.txt")
put "abcdefg" & CR into t
put "1234567" after t
put t into URL ("file:b.txt")
put "abcdefg" & CR into t
put "1234567" & CR &CR after t
put t into URL ("file:c.txt")
putfile "a,b.txt"
deletelastline "a,b.txt"
putfile "a,b.txt"
putfile "b.txt"
deletelastline "b.txt"
putfile "b.txt"
putfile "c.txt"
deletelastline "c.txt"
putfile "c.txt"
end mouseUp
on putfile p
put "file " && p & CR after field "F"
put URL ("file:" & P) after field "F"
put "endoffile" & CR after field "F"
end putfile
giving
file a,b.txt
abcdefg
1234567
endoffile
file a,b.txt
abcdefg
endoffile
file b.txt
abcdefg
1234567endoffile
file b.txt
abcdefendoffile
file c.txt
abcdefg
1234567
endoffile
file c.txt
abcdefg
1234567
endoffile
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Re: Reading/Deleting Last Line Of File
Jim Bufalini wrote: Just one thing Alex, you need to: put URLDecode(the detailed files) into t in case the file name has, for example, a space in it. Thanks Jum, I didn't spot that. But then, if the file name had a comma in it, I'd be caught out. I think what I needed was to URLEncode(pFile) to use in the filter : on deletelastline pFile constant K = 1000 put the detailed files into t filter t with URLEncode(pFile) & ",*" put item 2 of t into tFileLength open file pFile for read seek to tFileLength-K in file pFile read from file pFile until end close file pFile put the number of chars in the last line of it into tNum open file pFile for append write empty to file pFile at (tFileLength-tNum-3) close file pFile end deletelastline -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading/Deleting Last Line Of File
Richard Gaskin wrote: That looks similar to what I posted here on the 9th: open file tFile for update seek relative -1000 in file tFile repeat read from file tFile until cr if it is not empty then put it after tBuffer else delete last line of tBuffer write tBuffer to file tFile end if end repeat close file tFile Does that not do what you need? No, it doesn't. If a file is opened for 'update' then any write to the file simply overwrites any existing characters at the appropriates position(s), and leaves everything following that unchanged. There is no EOF implied by a write in update mode. There is an EOF inserted after a write if the file is opened in 'append' mode - but then you cannot read from it. (Actually, there is another additional reason - each time you do a 'read' that updates the file pointer, so the subsequent write would begin at the file position immediately *after* the last read, not where the read had been done from; you would have needed another seek before write (or do a 'write at x') to have a chance, but you'd still need Rev to provide access to truncate() after your write.) -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading/Deleting Last Line Of File
Jeff Massung wrote: I'm still new to Rev, but in other languages this is dead simple: ... // nuke everything else at the end of the file trunctate(fp, new_len); ... Done. Now, maybe this isn't as easy in Rev as it is in C and *many* other languages. But it should be [if it isn't]. That is *exactly* the problem - Rev doesn't expose ftruncate() (or ftell() either), so what should be very simple becomes very difficult. In C, or Python, or even shell it is simple, but Rev's incomplete interface to the file system causes the problem. I opened a RQCC report (#1851) in 2004 to request the enhancement of providing a way to get the file position (i.e. ftell()). That report remains "Unconfirmed". Given that response, I have not chosen to waste any time entering an enhancement request for truncate. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
