RE: Windows Version problems
Joe... I'm confused with what you want to do... Do you want to put data from your standalone into say a field in a substack and also at some point in time get that data back from the substack and view it in your mainstack ? or Do you want to open your substack from your main stack and then go back to your main stack from your substack ? Dixie From: pepe...@cox.net Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:09:35 -0800 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Windows Version problems What's even more confusing is that I find I CAN go to sub-stacks from the Main Stack, but not the other way around. Hmn! Sorry for all the postings. I'll just keep working and maybe stumble over a solution. Joe Wilkins On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Well, it seems that my problem is more pernicious than I realized. While within the IDE I can go back and forth between stacks by providing the name of the stack with the .rev on the end, but that doesn't help to identify the stacks in the standalone, so I thought that, if I stripped the .rev from the names, I'd be able to go back and forth in the standalone. It appears that I can't. So, I've been deluded into thinking that this is even possible in the MacOX standalone. This concept is/was the basis of my entire application. So my BIG question is: Is there ANY way that we can go back and forth between stacks in a standalone? If so, what is the syntax? I want to click on a button in one stack, go to another and retrieve some information stored there, return to the original stack and use the information to do something. In the IDE I can do this. It appears that I cannot do that in a standalone. Is my only solution to run the application using StackRunner? TIA to anyone who has insight into this problem. Joe Wilkins On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:06 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: The Windows version of my app has a few problems. I'm using this on a MacPro under Fusion. 1. A whole series of buttons on the first card are missing; while others on the card are there. They are all there on the MacOSX version. All are exactly the same except for their scripts which are very simple and used to go to other cards. The missing ones take the user to another stack. 2. The Menus of one of the three stacks are Very Large text, whereas the other two are small text. Any ideas? I'd like them all to be Very Large. Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] legality of DVD backup
Nice one... From: dave.cr...@lacscentre.co.uk Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 11:35:11 + To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: [OT] legality of DVD backup They may have dropped the name, but this Revolutionary tune was heard blasting out of one office window in Edinburgh recently: The compiler flag is deepest red To those that say Hypercard is dead But your static class can kiss my *ss We're in the iTunes store at last ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: standalone image problem
Hi Edward... Will this work for you ? global gtheFolder on preopenstack set itemDel to / put item 1 to -2 of (the effective fileName of this stack) /resources into gtheFolder set the defaultfolder to gtheFolder --set the topleft of this stack to 30,30 --set the defaultfolder to resources/ set the decorations of this stack to title,close set the topleft of this stack to 0,0 set the height of this stack to 750 set the width of this stack to 1280 set the loc of this stack to 640,400 hide menubar end preopenstack on openCard global pname set the filename of image 1 to ./resources/BKG.paneling.jpg set the filename of image 2 to ./resources/deck_animation.gif set the currenttime of player 1 to 0 set the filename of player 1 to ./resources/river1 start player 1 end openCard be well Dixie From: etcaw...@fastmail.fm Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 04:21:14 -0500 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: standalone image problem I'm trying to build for both Mac OS X and windows, but I'm concentrating on Mac until I get it to work. I have Snow Leopard installed.The folder structure is ./Resources/map_animation.gif for a typical file I have included the open stack code and the opencard code for one of the cards. I also will include(attached) screen capture of the folders location . As I said the stack works, ie. clik on the field or button and it will go to the next cd, all the text files are read and shown but the images (gif jpeg), audio, and one video clip do not show. Since it is showing the files it looks like it is finding the files in the folder but not showing them. on preopenstack --set the topleft of this stack to 30,30 set the defaultfolder to resources/ set the decorations of this stack to title,close set the topleft of this stack to 0,0 set the height of this stack to 750 set the width of this stack to 1280 set the loc of this stack to 640,400 hide menubar end preopenstack on openCard global pname set the filename of image 1 to resources/BKG.paneling.jpg set the filename of image 2 to resources/deck_animation.gif set the currenttime of player 1 to 0 set the filename of player 1 to resources/river1 start player 1 end openCard On Nov 5, 2010, at 11:02 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Message: 2 Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 11:36:39 -0600 From: Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu Subject: Re: image files in standalone To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 3b2c6b00-1e04-4fb2-a629-d9a0f3785...@byu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:07 AM, edward cawley wrote: Hello Edward, What platform are you building for? What does your folder structure look like? Do you set the defaultFolder in order to locate the resource folder? Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: in a menu?
Apples Oranges... double up the ampersand Have a look at page 262 of the 'User Guide' be well Dixie Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 10:43:03 -0700 From: martykn...@comcast.net To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: in a menu? For a Mac only program, is there a way to use ampersand in a popup menu button? I understand its normal use, but I'm needing to emulate a menu in another program. Thanks, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
This probably reflects my complete ignorance, but...
All, I use RunRev in my lab: indeed, it does everything in my lab: all of my lab computers have it, except they have it as Metacard, but that shouldn't be an issue (or if it is, then I really have an issue, as it has to be in the Metacard IDE!). I never create standalones (well, I have done so to respond to beta-release questions, but that is not my usual use). I use Metacard to do everything: it is the hypercard of now. So, EVERYTHING I do runs in the IDE. I don't want it otherwise (I have self-modifying code and all sorts of horrors you don't want to know about), because I like the original hypercard ideal: it is how I work and think. Ok, that out of the way: I have a simple stack to edit face photographs to eye-align them. That means: simple scaling, rotating, and translating. Trivial. And not a problem. But, I need to locate the eyes in each photo first. So, I designed a simple stack to have the user *in the Metacard IDE* drag a line between the eyes to get the coordinates of the eyes in the photograph. Again, simple. BUT: in the Metacard IDE, as soon as I script-select the line to allow the user to draw the line so my code can get the rect, it switches the IDE to edit mode, which means any subsequent clicks on buttons (to indicate that the line has been drawn, etc.) put that button (or whatever object) into edit mode, so the intent of the object is lost. Suggestions? Remember, they have to work within the Metacard IDE, and I can't know ahead of time when the user has finished drawing or adjusting the line. Obviously, the Metacard IDE itself has solved the problem (e.g., all of the IDE stacks remain in use not edit modes), but I remain baffled. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Open a property inspector by script ?
Hi... Is it possible to open the property inspector of an object by script, and have it display the geometry settings on opening ? be well Dixie ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Open a property inspector by script ?
Shao... There are days that pass you by when it seems that you have not learned much... there are other days when you learn something and the facts just get stored away, maybe for recall at some point in the future... and now and again there are days when you learn so much it makes you tired... this has been one of those days... I am now sat down resting... Thanks for your reply... you have put a smile on my face.. be well Dixie From: shaos...@wehostmacs.com To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:35:29 -0400 Subject: Re: Open a property inspector by script ? on mouseUp # get the target of this control local tTargetID put the long id of the target into tTargetID # create the inspector linked to this control send revBuildPropertyPalette tTargetID to stack revTemplatePalette # get the name of the inspector linked to this control local tPaletteName put revPropertyPalettes(tTargetID) into tPaletteName # bring the inspector stack into use so we can use the scripts from it (we could do this with the value() function) start using stack tPaletteName # get the text for the drop down menu (the first line is the object type) local tTabs put revObjectTabs2(tTargetID) into tTabs # lock the screen so we do not see the selection handles lock screen select tTargetID # get the proper geometry card to display local tDefaultCard put revGeometryCard() into tDefaultCard # deselect the control and unlock the screen select EMPTY unlock screen # go to the correct inspector pane revBuildPropertyPaletteGoCard tDefaultCard, tPaletteName, tTargetID, tTabs # get the inspector to remember the pane it is displaying revRememberPane # no longer need the palette's scripts stop using stack tPaletteName end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
crop command
LiveCode graphics gurus: I have to process a few thousand photograph files through a simple set of manipulations that scales, translates and rotates the images to a common standard, and then crops them to a fixed size. The code is simple, except apparently the crop command doesn't work on file-based image objects. How do I manipulate the file-based image to allow for the crop command? -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 85, Issue 44
On 2010-10-21, at 1:34 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Regardless of the method of acquiring, the data has to be put in RAM for any kind of manipulation, including cropping or resizing. sqb Of course, but that is not the issue: it is *only* the crop command that fails on file-sourced image objects. For example, if you create an image object and use the paint tools to create an image, it can be cropped with the crop command, but if the image object is sourced to a file, the crop command returns an error. On 21 October 2010 11:11, Vokey, John vo...@uleth.ca wrote: LiveCode graphics gurus: I have to process a few thousand photograph files through a simple set of manipulations that scales, translates and rotates the images to a common standard, and then crops them to a fixed size. The code is simple, except apparently the crop command doesn't work on file-based image objects. How do I manipulate the file-based image to allow for the crop command? -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -Dr. John R. Vokey ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Geometry settings...
Hi... Is it possible to set the geometry of an object by script so that the settings are then reflected in that objects' inspector ? be well Dixie ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Geometry settings...
Hi Devin... Thanks for the reply.. I have not explained what I want to do too well. What I would like to be able to do is set the 'geometry' in the geometry pane that are in the objects' inspector so, if I create a field by script, I can also set its geometry in the geometry pane... Is it now a little clearer than mud ? Dixie On Oct 15, 2010, at 4:08 PM, John Dixon wrote: Hi... Is it possible to set the geometry of an object by script so that the settings are then reflected in that objects' inspector ? be well Yes. There are many properties that can be set, like height, width, rectangle, left, right, etc. Usually after you've set them by script you have to force the property inspector to update itself before the new settings are shown. For example, you could close and reopen the inspector, or switch to another pane of the inspector then switch back. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 85, Issue 31
One last change; HP worked hard to find the colours for the keys that would work for all, especially those otherwise known as colourblind; hence the, for some, odd beige/yellow keys, and the faded cyan keys. But, in tests, these colours really do work for all including monochromats. Wendy Carlos has a nice demo for those not otherwise afflicted: http://www.wendycarlos.com/colorvis/color3.html#cblind On 2010-10-15, at 10:59 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Folks, following Craig advise, I've changed the little RPN calculator stack to be more HP like. Now it has four stack registers (X,Y,Z,T). T will roll down as expected. There is now a roll down button. I also made the label on the buttons bigger. Before this change, the calculator has an infinite stack which mimicked the last models of HP calculators, now it has four registers which is like earlier models. It is enough for simple calculations. It might be a toy but it is a fun one. http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/518/RPN-Calc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Simple RPN Calculator on RevOnline
I still have (and use) my HP-25C and my HP-48G+ . I prefer the 25C to the 48G+ for most simple programming tasks. I also have a perfect emulator of the HP-25C for OS X that I picked up a few years back. It is my main calculator on the mac. I can't find it on the internet anymore, but I will happily send a copy to anyone who emails me privately. On 2010-10-13, at 3:41 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: I still have my HP-35. Got it in 1971, I think. I use an HP-41 now. Wouldn't think of anything else. Craig -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -Dr. John R. Vokey ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?
mac 10.6.4 your revlets run fine here ! John Dixon To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com From: liste.r...@medard.on-rev.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 12:01:12 +0200 Subject: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? At least on my machine... I upgraded from Mac OS X 10.6.2 to 10.6.4 at the end of June; I don't remember if I acceded the installed revlets on my web page after that date -- maybe NOT, if I refer to the visitors IP (my personal IP is not fixed) Briefly, I think that the revlets runned correctly with Mac OS X 10.6.2 Now, under 10.6.4 the crash is immediate ;- The revlets web page: http://medard.on-rev.com/RevWeb/index.irev Can you, on your side, test any revlet on this web page, and report the result, along with your Mac OS X version? TIA :-) PS: the technical support is aware of this bug, but excepted me they got only one bug report, along with the crash log PS2: tested on others machines, that runs smoothly on 10.5.8 and 10.6.2... PS3: I tested on a fresh Guest account, and that crashes also... (-8 Médard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Read from file not working 4.5?
Hi All... I have a stack that reads a text file and puts that text in a card fld. It works in 4.0, but when I open the same stack in 4.5 LiveCode it does not work? Here is the simple script: on openStack put the defaultFolder into tFilePath open window data of stack Data put tFilePath/imageData into tTargetToOpen open file tTargetToOpen read from file tTargetToOpen until EOF put it into cd fld data of cd 1 of Stack data end openStack What am i missing here for this not to work in 4.5? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Which stack called the library stack ?
How can I find out which stack called a library stack from the script of the library stack ? thanks... John Dixon ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Which stack called the library stack ?
Thanks for your replies ... Dar, Richard, Jan I have a stack that contains a field.. what happens in the field is called from a library stack that is loaded in the preOpen stack handler... What I want to happen is that the backgroundColor of the field will change depending on whether or not the stack is 'suspended'... I have a 'suspendStack' and a 'resumeStack' handler in the library stack to handle the change of colour... All works fine if I run the stack as a standalone ... All works fine in the IDE except for the first click in the field when the stack has first opened, for some reason the colour of the field when first 'clicking' into it changes the colour to the suspended colour ... all subsequent clicks after the first one and everything is fine... So, the reason for me asking 'Which stack called the library stack' was that I was hoping I could trap for which stack was suspended or not and handle it that way... regards John Dixon Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:25:42 -0700 From: janschen...@yahoo.com To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Which stack called the library stack ? --- On Fri, 9/24/10, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: How can I find out which stack called a library stack from the script of the library stack ? thanks... John Dixon Are you wondering which script issued the 'start using' command? Or which script calls one of the handlers in your library stack script? I'm not sure about the first one, but you can solve the second riddle by looking at the 'executionContexts' local property. I made a quick test stack MyMain with a single button, and a substack MyLib with a single scrolling text field. Then I set the script of stack MyLib to: ## on MyLibHandler put MyLibHandler return \ the executioncontexts return \ return \ after field 1 of me end MyLibHandler ## Then I went back to stack MyMain and set the script of the button to: ## on mouseUp start using stack MyLib MyLibHandler stop using stack MyLib end mouseUp ## With all that set up, I clicked the button, and got the following in the scrolling text field of stack MyLib: ## MyLibHandler button id 1004 of card id 1002 of stack MyMain,mouseUp,3 stack MyLib of stack MyMain,MyLibHandler,17 ## So the second-to-last line gives you the control that called MyLibHandler, the name of the handler in which MyLibHandler was callezd, and even the line number. Note that I said 'the second-to-last line' - because if we slightly change the script of the button in stack MyMain to: ## on mouseUp RunMyLibHandler end mouseUp on RunMyLibHandler start using stack MyLib MyLibHandler stop using stack MyLib end RunMyLibHandler ## Then we get the following output instead in the scrolling text field: ## MyLibHandler button id 1004 of card id 1002 of stack MyMain,mouseUp,2 button id 1004 of card id 1002 of stack MyMain,RunMyLibHandler,7 stack MyLib of stack MyMain,MyLibHandler,17 ## The 'mouseUp' called 'RunMyLibHandler'; and this in turn loaded the library stack, called 'MyLibHandler' and unloaded it again. So the first line is the originating event, and the second-to-last line gives you the handler that actually called the handler in the library script. HTH, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multi-Page Printing Strategy?
I had a similar situation and tried the routine you described. I couldn't get it to work reliably. The printing always seemed to hang after the first card printed. It could have been my limited experience with printing code, but I tried a slightly different approach. First, put all the card information into a multi-dimensional array. Clone as many cards as you need (the number of keys in the array - 1). In a repeat loop, fill in all the cards from the array. Then, use the print stack command. After the print routine, delete all the cards except card 1. Works great for me. John On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:00 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: I'm wondering if someone more versed in printing than I can offer a suggestion for printing multiple pages from a stack where the card content is dynamically created. The stack is essentially a bare bones PowerPoint-like app that creates custom charts and text-only slides. Only one card is used for the display of all content -- groups are hidden and shown as needed when viewing a slideshow, and field/chart contents are populated on-the-fly. I can write a routine to to tell the app to automatically create each slide, but I don't know if I should try to print directly from the main display stack, or copy card elements out to an offscreen stack and print from there. The display stack can fit standard paper size, so there's no resizing/reformatting issue to deal with there. Could this be as straightforward as the following? open printing generate slide 1 print this cd generate slide 2 print this cd ...etc. close printing Also, what is the proper method for centering content on a printed page? I see Rev provides printRectangle and printPaperRectangle properties, but I can't tell from their descriptions what I would use to center stack content within the live area of a printed page. Thanks for any advice/suggestions. Best Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multi-Page Printing Strategy?
As far as the second part of your question goes... I set the card dimensions to 612 x 792 and use the following code: set the formatForPrinting of stack thePrint to true set printMargins to 0,0,0,0 open printing print stack thePrint into 0,0,612,792 close printing set the formatForPrinting of stack thePrint to false John On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:00 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Also, what is the proper method for centering content on a printed page? I see Rev provides printRectangle and printPaperRectangle properties, but I can't tell from their descriptions what I would use to center stack content within the live area of a printed page. Thanks for any advice/suggestions. Best Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ON TOPIC : A REV QUESTION! :-)
Hi... I have put a stack together on a Mac using an 'English' Mac OS... The stack will run in France... I have just realized that there are a couple of 'Ask' commands littered about the stack that have 'Cancel' and 'OK' in the buttons... Will 'Cancel' be translated into something like 'Effacer' when running under a French Mac OS ? regards, John Dixon _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/19780/direct/01/ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: ON TOPIC : A REV QUESTION! :-)
René Thanks... Regards John Dixon _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: ON TOPIC : A REV QUESTION! :-)
Mark... Thanks for the tip... I'll try it Regards, John Dixon _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: OT: Rodeo and media
Hello Mark Would you tell me the name of the software you used to make the video of the video, as it were... I am intrigued by the red rings that appear with the mouseClicks... regards,, John Dixon From: use...@canelasoftware.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:47:03 -0700 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: OT: Rodeo and media I made a short video showing a video playing in Rodeo 2 and the code that goes with it. I altered the link to the video for copyright purposes. Otherwise, the code you see is very Rev like and simple to read. http://www.canelasoftware.com/temp/rodeo/Rodeo%20Video.mov Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/19780/direct/01/ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: OT: Rodeo and media
Mark and Ian... Thanks for the info about mouseposé and screenflow... interesting regards, John Dixon _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/19780/direct/01/ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
Ignoring the repeated spelling error, I chose not to buy-in to the early release bargain (and, it is a bargain); Instead, I want Jerry et al. to be able to leverage this thing to the point where it is actually affordable *for them*. So, I will wait and pay the full freight. I am so impressed with what they have accomplished to this point that full freight on just that, alone, is worth it. On 2010-07-20, at 2:08 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions! -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: I cannot edit a field although the locktext is set to false
In the object inspector of the field is 'focusable' set to false ?... regards John Dixon Hi! On my card there are 10 textfields, one of them ist locked and stay locked. The looktext-button in the basic properties is not highlighted. I send the message set the locktext of fld FrageR1 to false to the field. It stay locked. What can I do? What can be the reason? Thanks Reinhold ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/19780/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Problem with revCopyFile
Thankyou for your reply... Yes, the global variable gdefaultfolder has a value , it is set when the stack first opens in the preOpenStack handler using :- --- global gdefaultFolder on preOpenstack set itemDel to / put item 1 to -2 of (the effective fileName of this stack) into gdefaultFolder set the defaultfolder to gdefaultFolder set the loc of this stack to screenLoc() end preOpenstack --- I put the following line into the ' mouseUp' handler to see if the engine believes the file exists : put there is a file (gdefaultFolder /Bernier Master.rev) it returns true Still stumped !... regards, John Dixon _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/19780/direct/01/ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with revCopyFile
Hi Could someone tell me why revCopyFile and revCopyFolder will not work in the script below when run as a standalone under Mac OS X everything is fine in the IDE... The folders are created but the file and folder that I wish to copy are not copied... --- global gdefaultFolder on mouseUp if fld 1 is empty then exit mouseUp answer folder Select a folder in which to build the presentation if it is empty then exit mouseUp set the defaultFolder to it put it into theFolderPath put line 1 of fld 1 into theFolderName create folder theFolderName create folder theFolderName /BernierResources create folder theFolderName /BernierResources/capitons create folder theFolderName /BernierResources/cercueils create folder theFolderName /BernierResources/cercueilsCroix create folder theFolderName /BernierResources/cercueilsEnfant create folder theFolderName /BernierResources/emblemes create folder theFolderName /BernierResources/urnes revCopyFile (gdefaultFolder /Bernier Master.rev), (theFolderPath / theFolderName) revCopyFolder (gdefaultFolder /BernierResources/BernierData), theFolderPath / theFolderName /BernierResources rename (theFolderPath / theFolderName /Bernier Master.rev) to (theFolderPath / theFolderName /Presentation.rev) put empty into fld 1 open stack (theFolderPath / theFolderName /Presentation.rev) end mouseUp --- Any help appreciated... be well Dixie -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Problem-with-revCopyFile-tp2253990p2253990.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Problem with revCopyFile
Josep... Thanks for your quick reply... my knowledge of unix is positively dangerous, so I have to ask the question 'Will your shell copy command solution work for a file as well as a folder ?' I get the same problem and I solved using a shell copy command. put your folder path A into tFolderA put your folder path B into tFolderB put (cp -R -p quotetFolderAquotequotetFolderBquote) into tCommand get shell(tCommand) Salut, Josep kind regards, John Dixon _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/19780/direct/01/ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hiliting Words in a Field
Gregory... Continuing with Michael's 'Scotland' theme :- on mouseUp repeat with count = 1 to the number of words of fld 1 if word count of fld 1 = Scotland then set the foregroundcolor of word count of fld 1 to yellow end repeat end mouseUp -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Hiliting-Words-in-a-Field-tp2246485p2246586.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Audio Playback in Linux is Clipped?
Hi All... I'm trying to track down why on Linux Rev is clipping the audio playback? On opening a stack and attempting to play recording from Rev, the first time through appears to layer pieces of the single recording on top of each other. Then on subsequent attempts to play the same recording it only plays the last few seconds of the audio. I created a sample stack and saved it to RevOnline. It is called Linux Audio Test. It will record 10 seconds of audio using a shell script for aRecord and then use Rev's ability to play back the wav audio file. This was done on Unbuntu Netbook Remix (9.01) version. Not sure if the problem is my hardware or if it is the software, or my goofy authoring skills... If anybody could confirm that would be fantastic. If anybody has some tips that would be even better :-) Thank you! John Patten SUSD ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Linux Audio Playback clips audio?
Hi All... Still experimenting with the Linux version of Rev. I have been using the following to record audio in my stack: put the effective filename of this stack into theTargetPath set the itemDel to / delete last item of theTargetPath delete first item of theTargetPath put / theTargetPath /recordings into theRecordingTarget convert the date the long time to seconds put it into tFileNameRec put tFileNameRec into cd fld audioFileName put arecord -d 10 -f u8 -t wav into tShellCmd put shell(tShellCmdtheRecordingTargettFileName) put theRecordingTargettFileNameRec into cd fld recordingName This creates an audio recording that is 10 seconds long in the recordings directory. The audio file plays in its entirety when played back in the Totem Movie Player. However, when played back through Revolution the file gets clipped and only approximately the last 5 seconds of the 10 second audio file plays. I'm just using the following to play it back: put cd fld recordingName of cd 1 into tAudioFile play url tAudioFile Any tips on what I might try to make the entire audio file play back? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Playing wav sound file in Linux in background?
Thanks Everyone... ... and Andre all try out you suggestion on the shell command when I get a second. I solved the issue by just looking a little closer and the man file for arecord and discoverd that I could just change the file format to one that Revolution could handle. It used -f u8 and that did the trick. I have one other question about getting the correct path to a directory in a standalone where I save my stack saves the audio file. It works fine when I'm in Revolution editor, but after I save it as a standalone it saves the audio file in the wrong location. I was under the impression that Windows and Linux did not have an issue with file paths when saved as standalones, but I may be doing something incorrectly. Here's what i have: put the effective filename of current stack into theTargetPath set the itemDel to / delete last item of theTargetPath delete first item of theTargetPath put / theTargetPath /recordings/ into theRecordingTarget convert the date the long time to seconds put it into tFileNameRec put tFileNameRec into cd fld audioFileName send mouseUp to btn Stop Recording in 10 secs put arecord -d 10 -fu8 -t wav into tShellCmd put shell(tschellCmdtheRecordingTargetFilenameRec) This works fine when I'm in the editor (saves to the recordings folder), but when I create a standalone the standalone saves the audio file as student in the location of the directory that I select to build the standalone. Any advice on what I'm missing with this little Linux process? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Playing wav sound file in Linux in background?
Hi All... I've been having a problem playing back an audio file on a Linux computer using an arecord a shell script to first create the audio file. The audio file gets created on the local machine, it then gets uploaded to an ftp directory, however when I go to play the sound file locally using just Rev it's just static white noise. If I again, use the shell script to play the audio file, aplay path- tofile, it plays fine. However the user can't do anything with my stack until the file completely finishes playing. Is there any way to play the audio file via the shell script in the background and still allow the user to interact with the stack? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Recording Audio on Windows...?
Hi All... I'm attempting to move a small stack, which records audio from a OS X computer over to a Windows XP computer. The OS X stack works fine. When I run it on the Windows XP machine I'm getting an error. I have installed QT on the Windows XP machine and I appear to have all my paths correct. i.e. C:\Documents and Settings\the_domain.theUser\Desktop\recordings \nameofRecording However, when I check the result after giving the record sound file command it reports: error -220 starting recording Does anyone have an idea of what I'm missing? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Changing the Style of Words in Field And Quotation Marks?
Hi All... I'm working on a little student utility that changes the text color and underlines the individual word in the target field as they hit the space bar. I'm wondering how I should handle passages of text that are surrounded by quotation marks? I was taking the text passage and stripping out the quotes to get the total number of words in the field. Then using that number and reducing it to target the specific words in the field to modify their text style. The quotation marks create a single word out of the phrase, and if I attempt to delete a quote and then add it back the total number of words in my variable is off. In any case, everything gets all wonky when there are quotes in the passage... Anyone done something similar? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RunRev and Linux Shell Scripting (...was Re: Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS?)
Thanks Peter!!! This was just the information I was looking for! John Patten Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:39:17 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS? To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 1272008357927-2032844.p...@n4.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Invoking the shell command is the easy part. First, you open a terminal and verify that the command or script you want to use works properly from the terminal. For example, if you are going to use krecord you would open a terminal and do krec followed by whatever options you want. (this seems to be the command which opens the app now, seems to me it used to be krecord but still.) Now you know that it works as expected in the shell, you can invoke it from Rev: put shell(krec) -- this will just open the application. For instance, to execute the command you gave as a sample, from a button, you would just do: on mouseUp put shell(arecord -d 10 -f cd -t wav -D copy foobar.wav) end mouseUp This would then record the file in the user's home directory as foobar.wav. You can execute any shell command like this. You can also pipe the output of one shell command to the input of another one, in a shell command, as in ls | gedit this will have the effect of first listing the current directory contents, then sending the result to gedit, in which the input will be opened. You could use this to send a file, once recorded, to a player. Or, if you have lame installed, you could use it to convert the file to mp3 with soundconverter. Finally, you might need to execute commands one after the other, which you can also do. To do this, you put your script into a file, for example, myscript.sh, have the first line be a so called 'shebang', make it executable, and put in your commands one after the other. Lets say you wanted the file in the above example to go to the desktop: #! /usr/bin/env bash cd Desktop arecord -d 10 -f cd -t wav -D copy foobar.wav Now you would do, from your button, put shell (myscript.sh) -- the file would have to be made executable. The shell is a quite fully featured, if rather antique, programming language, with what you might regard as a huge collection of macros and utilities for all kinds of purposes. Most of the stuff you would expect, flow control, branching, error reporting etc. There are lots of guides to it on the net, but if you're in an academic environment the simplest might be to find someone in IT who has scripting experience and have them write it. If you want to learn it yourself, there is a nice book, full of worked examples, by Glen Smith: Introduction to Shell Scripting. Might be a bit basic for an experienced programmer. It is antique, but its ideal for this sort of thing, because of the ability to invoke stuff like krec. On Rev, because of the limitations of Rev on Linux at the moment, its a lifesaver. Peter -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Record-Audio-in-Rev-on-Linux-OS-tp2016409p2032844.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS?
Thanks for the suggestion Peter! As for how to go about doing what you described in Linux, I'm at a loss. I have no experience using Rev and Shell scripts in Linux. The reason why I am interested is that I working on a little utility that allows students to record an audio response and then ftp the resulting audio file to a server. This works fine on my Mac, and I presume it will on Windows too (though have not tested extensively yet). We have recently begun using Netbooks running Ubuntu Remix with our students (about 600 of them currently). We do have Audacity on them for recording audio, among a whole collection of other great software tools. I would like to be able to get my little utility to work on the Netbooks too. I have looked up krecord and hunted some discussion lists related to command line commands for this tool. I don't see too much in the area of command line language for Audacity, so I'm guessing we will have to use krecord or ALSA. These laptops do have ALSA arecord and aplay and I do see an example in man for arecord: arecord -d 10 -f cd -t wav -D copy foobar.wav (I'm guessing in the example above, I would need to give the complete path when saving the foobar.wav file. Something like ~/home/student/ foobar.wav ) I have never done anything like this with Rev before and need some direction. I'm guessing that I'm going to need to create a function that will contain the shell script and then call it from a button when I want to record...? But I don't have a clue what it would look like??? Does someone have a simple example stack I can pick apart? Thank you! John Patten -- Message: 11 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:45:13 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS? To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 1271709913251-2016534.p...@n4.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dunno about Rev directly, but you can go out to shell, and then use the Linux command line tools. The easiest gui recording tool is krecord, but there are lots of non-gui ones. Use zenity to get a gui for them. Then when you've captured the file, go out to the shell again to play it. Or maybe this is what you were trying to avoid? Most things that Rev cannot do can be done in the shell. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS?
Hi All... I think I know the answer, but want to make sure. Is is possible to record audio in a stack that is running on Linux (Ubuntu)? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Naming Custom Properties
If you note in the Dictionary there is a comment from me on this ``hiccup'' of the custom properties, and it represents a long-standing complaint of mine (i.e., that all custom property names should be quoted literals or the contents of some variable). The problem is this: if variable fred has not been defined, then set the fred of this stack to myArray will, of course create the custom property fred with the contents of myArray. However, if fred has the contents mary then the same line set the fred of this stack to myArray will create the custom property mary with the contents of myArray. And this latter syntax is very convenient for creating custom properties with custom names on the fly. However, to be consistent, the name of the custom property should be a quoted literal when not the contents of a variable name, such that the lines: set the fred of this stack to myArray put fred into mary; set the mary of this stack to myArray do the same thing. The line set the fred of this stack to myArray should throw an error if fred is empty. Unfortunately, nobody at RunRev seems to agree with my desire for a consistent syntax. On 2010-04-16, at 4:51 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Hello everyone, I vaguely, very vaguely, recall that a custom property should have a name that is different from the variable to which it is being set. So, for example, if myArray is the variable, then set the myPropArray of this stack to myArray is fine, but set the myArray of this stack to myArray does not set anything apparently. I waisted a big chunk (no xTalk pun intended) of time rediscovering that, and I'd just like to confirm that that is the case. I'm also wondering whether anyone can point me to where this convention is discussed in the Users Guide or built-in dictionary. Regards, Gregory -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 79, Issue 28
What do I do? Rail against the fact that, sensibly, the engine translates all file references to one form, but fails to do so for many other utterly trivial differences. So, one is always forced to check for the OS (see the dictionary for all the ridiculous exceptions). Why? Why doesn't the engine, as with file paths, choose one style? It drives me nuts that in the IDE associated file references, for example, are different from that in the standalone, depending on the OS. That is just maddening, and also one reason I rarely produce standalones: in the IDE *almost* all remains constant over OSs. But create standalones and one spends way to much time compensating for silly differences over OSs that should not matter. To make the point clear that is is not just RunRev that maintains this nonsense. Take a look at this quintessential cross-platform app, R. You want to access text data in a rows by columns format on the clipboard by command in Mac OS X, you use: data.dat - read.table(pipe(pbpaste), header = TRUE), but on Windose, you use: data.dat - read.table(file(clipboard), header = TRUE). Why? Why wouldn't something so primitive be coded in the engine? Indeed, we all write a function in to handle the translation over systems, but, seriously, why should we have to? Same in RunRev. It it is a RunRev function or command, it should be identical over all systems. Period. If I see: ``how to do X on system y'' in RunRev, it should be followed by a single command for all systems. I admit, it is often no more than a switch command and a 3-line wrapper, but, really, why should it be even that? RunRev has probably spent more time writing the damn dictionary explanation of the exception than it would take to just make the the switch and 3-lines of code inherent in the code. On 2010-04-14, at 10:23 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Which brings up an interface question. My app lets users choose a folder and then displays the folder path in a field. I've never bothered to change it in the past, but now I'm wondering if I should translate all the slashes to backslashes just for display on Windows, and then change them back to regular slashes in the script when I need to work with the path. What do others do? -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Record Audio for only 10 seconds?
Hi All... I'm attempting to create a little stack that will allow the user to record audio, their voice, for a specific amount of time. I have the recording scripts down: put the long name of current stack into theTargetPath put the itemDel into tOrigItemDel set the itemDel to / delete last item of theTargetPath delete first item of theTargetPath put / theTargetPath /Recordings/ into theRecordingTarget --create a unique name for the audio file convert the date the long time to seconds put it into tFileName hide me show button Stop Recording record sound file theRecordingTargettFilename put theRecordingTargettFileName into cd fld recording name set the itemDel to tOrigItemDel However I'm not sure how to add the timer component. I'm thinking I will need to use a send statement, something like, send stop recording after 10 seconds to current stack??? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] WePad
I'm looking forward to the iPad being available in the UK. I'm also looking forward to the WePad launch; http://wepad.mobi/en/index It sounds interesting. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] WePad
Check out http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/03/wepad.html On 12/04/2010 00:25, stephen barncard wrote: I like this. Now we're talking. Can't wait to see the specs and a real one. On 11 April 2010 16:20, John Craigr...@splash21.com wrote: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RunRev and Linux
I have been an Apple user since the Apple ][, and have purchased upwards of at least 100 machines from Apple in that time; but, lately, I have been playing with Ubuntu Linux. And, I must admit I am impressed. Most of my work on Macs is done with open-source software (mostly LaTeX and R), but I really rely otherwise on Matlab and RunRev. Really: about 90% of the work *in my lab* uses those two tools. Octave (open-source) and R can, combined, do most or what I use Matlab for, but there is no open-source replacement for RunRev. I really need it to work. I don't compile apps, I run everything in the (MetaCard) IDE. So, if I could be assured that the RunRev (especially the Metacard) IDE worked adequately in Ubuntu Linux, I would shift to purchasing cheap Intel machines for all my work and use Ubuntu Linux. My lab runs on tax-payer dollars, so any savings I can make benefit us all. Advice, comments? On 2010-04-10, at 8:44 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: On Planet Ubuntu 9.10, I just opened Rev, made a stack, opened its script, typed some text, cut it, pasted it, copied it, pasted it -- all good. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Images, icons and Objects and Data Grid Tables?
Hi All... I have a folder full of images that are named with a specific number id. I'm attempting to insert each image based on its name (number id) that is pulled from the pData into the Data Grid Table. These images are not part of the stack, and will be stored in a directory outside of the stack. I can poll the data grid for the correct image id by changing the column object from an image object to a button object and using the column behavior script: set the label of button 1 of me to (pData) ... so I know i have the correct name being reported by the pData data.The result is a the name of the image. I don't appear to be able to set the button icon based on the image path of the image in the folder and there is no way from a script to set the imageSource for an image object via a path (like you can when you open the image properties and select the button folder). If pdata is returning the name of my image correctly, how can I use that to display the image in my DataGrid table? As an image object? As the icon of a button? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DataGrid Forms, checkboxes and Pull-Down buttons - Solved
Thanks Again Trevor! I have it working now. I shared it on revOnline, DataGrids_CheckBoxes_and MenuOptions. The following is the specifics of what I did: Option Menu Button Column Behavior- on FillInData pData --set the text of field 1 of me to pData -- Lock messages so that menuPick isn't fired when setting the menuHistory lock messages set the menuhistory of button 1 of me to lineOffset(pData, the text of button 1 of me) unlock messages end FillInData getProp dgDataControl --required by library so that it can locate your control. return the long id of me end dgDataControl on menuPick pChosenItem setDataOfIndex the dgIndex of me, the dgColumn of me, pChosenItem end menuPick Checkbox Button Column Behavior- getProp dgDataControl return the long id of me end dgDataControl on mouseDown pMouseBtnNum dgMouseDown pMouseBtnNum setDataOfIndex the dgHilitedIndexes of me, the dgColumn of the target, (the hilited of target) end mouseDown Thanks! John Patten -snip-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:28:36 -0400 From: Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com Subject: Re: DataGrid Forms, checkboxes and Pull-Down buttons? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 1c56ffc2-a6a8-417f-93e6-92f83d36e...@mangomultimedia.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Mar 30, 2010, at 1:43 PM, John Patten wrote: I have been searching the list and found those same resources you describe. I'm closer, but still not quite getting the concept. I noticed that tutorial examples are using Table and not Form DataGrids. I have been using the Form version of the DataGrid, are the examples you mention only workable when the DataGrid is a Table style? Yes, the example will work with a form. These are the steps you will go through when working with the data in your data grid: 1) Assign data to data grid. Data grid stores internal array. 2) The FillInData handler in the row template inserts data from array into UI controls. 3) User interacts with UI control (clicks on checkbox, makes selection using option menu) 4) You store result of user interaction back in data grid array. 5) You ask the data grid for the value of the array using the dgDataOfIndex/dgDataOfLine or GetDataOfIndex/GetDataOfLine. At which point are you getting stuck? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DataGrid Forms, checkboxes and Pull-Down buttons
Correction...I almost have it working The option menu behavior seems to be okay... The problem is with my checkbox button. The script I used is: Checkbox Button Column Behavior- getProp dgDataControl return the long id of me end dgDataControl on mouseDown pMouseBtnNum dgMouseDown pMouseBtnNum setDataOfIndex the dgHilitedIndexes of me, the dgColumn of the target, (the hilited of target) end mouseDown There are two problems. The first is that when I look at the data in the Data Grid after highlighting the checkbox, the data from the datagrid reports that the hilite is 'false. If I uncheck the checkbox, and grab the data again, the Data Grid reports that the hilite is 'true. It is reversed from what is normal. Second problem is that if I click in the column with the check box, missing the button, I get an error stating that the (column) does not have that property (assume it means the hilite property). I attempted to put an: if the pMouseBtnNum is 1then setDataOfIndex the dgHilitedIndexes of me, the dgColumn of the target, (the hilited of target) But that still did not take out the error message when I clicked on the column instead of the checkbox. Suggestion...? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DataGrid Forms, checkboxes and Pull-Down buttons?
Thanks Trevor... I have been searching the list and found those same resources you describe. I'm closer, but still not quite getting the concept. I noticed that tutorial examples are using Table and not Form DataGrids. I have been using the Form version of the DataGrid, are the examples you mention only workable when the DataGrid is a Table style? Also, I made a quick stack and shared it on RevOnline. It will eventually work...I hope, with a little help :-) It populates and datagrid with one button, and then extracts the DataGrid data into a second field. However, checkbox and option menu button data are not working...yet. It is tagged with DataGrid on the revOnline site. Feel free to make suggestions. When it's all working correctly, I will repost for those challenged like myself. Thank you! John Patten -snip- Message: 20 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:21:39 -0400 From: Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com Subject: Re: Data grids in standalones To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 42467ae9-79af-49f8-bd39-6415dbf81...@mangomultimedia.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Can I tell the standalone builder to include the data grid library even if setting inclusions manually? Or do I have to un-protect my stack to get this to work. Add a Data Grid Templates substack and the standalone builder will include the Data Grid library: http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/manuals/datagrid/lessons/7339-What-Do-I-Need-to-Do-To-Deploy-a-Standalone-With-A-Data-Grid- -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
DataGrid Forms, checkboxes and Pull-Down buttons?
Hi All... I'm using datagrids to display some data out of a mySQL database. I created a check box and a option button in the template for my data grid row. I would like to be able to check if data row checkbox hilite is true or not and would like to store data in my db based on the option of my option button. How do I get the hilite of my individual checkboxes in each row, and along the same lines, how would I get the information selected in my option button from each row of the datagrid? Thanks in Advance! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Connecting Rev stack to On-Rev mySQL DB?
Thanks Sarah and Andre! I figured out the % wildcard for SQL but I like Sarah's irev strategy too. I'm attempting to modify what Sarah describes to include a search field on card and a WHERE in the SQL. Having a hard time getting my head around sending the POST to the irev script so that I can search by field in SQL and then returning the data to the stack. Here's where I'm at: --On the card- on mouseUp put cd fld SearchName into tTeacher libUrlFormData(name, tTeacher) post it to url http://jpatten.on-rev.com/readDB.irev; put http://jpatten.on-rev.com/readDB.irev; into tData put tData into fld tempdata ... --in the irev file put $_POST[name] into tTeacher ( and then everything that Sarah describes below) My confusion comes from trying to submit two actions to the irev file, a POST of the card field text and the OpenQuery of the database. What is the proper way to get the text (POST) included as a WHERE in the irev SQL action? Hope that made sense. Thank you! John Patten -snip- Message: 17 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:56:57 +1000 From: Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Connecting Rev stack to On-Rev mySQL DB? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: f99b52861003251656m7537ea7fvf9ffca2a35a2b...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 John, it looks like you are trying to access the database from outside the server. By default this is not permitted. There is a way to set up access from outside, but I don;t remember what it is. Search the list archives as I think it was discussed a few weeks ago. The more regular way of connecting is via an irev script file on your on-rev server. Here is how I do it: put this script into an irev file, replace all the ***'s with your own variables, and upload it to your on-rev site. ?rev put * into tDBname put * into tDBuser put * into tDBpass put revOpenDatabase(mysql, localhost, tDBname, tDBuser, tDBpass) into tDBconnection if tDBconnection is not a number then put Error: could not connect to database! if tDBconnection is a number then -- query the database, then close it put into tTableName put SELECT * FROM tTableName into tSQL put revDataFromQuery(tab, cr, tDBconnection, tSQL) into tData revCloseDatabase tDBconnection put tData end if ? In your Rev stack, use this script (assuming the irev script file is called readDB.irev): on mouseUp put http://myusername.on-rev.com/readDB.irev; into tDBdata -- now display it end mouseUp For further refinements, edit the irev script to take a GET or POST parameter and apply that in the SELECT statement. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Connecting Rev stack to On-Rev mySQL DB?
Hi All... My Developer Conference 2009 DVDs arrived yesterday and I listened to Devin do his presentations on connecting rev to an on-rev mysql db. He made it look so easy, I thought I'd give it a try! My attempts are failing with the error: Access denied for user 'jpatten_elearn'@'216.64.xxx.xx' (using password: YES) I'm behind a firewall, however anything that we initiate from inside is allowed. I pretty much used Devin's example straight from the DVD, put mysql into tType put jpatten.on-rev.com into tHost put jpatten_theDB into tDB put jpatten_elearn into tUser put theDBuser_passwd into tPass put revOpenDatabase(tType,tHost,tDB,tUser,tPass) into tConnID put tConnID But instead of getting what I would think would be a connection ID, I get the access denied error. I will try from home tonight to see if it works from outside my school network, but was also curious if anybody had a suggestions? ...Have a stack you can share that connects to a mySQL db on the web I can test? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Freezing solid
Greetings As a sometime Hypercard enthusiast I'm slowly getting used to RunRev. How does one prevent the program locking up in the middle of a job? I then have to force quit - Mac OS Snow Leopard. Thanks JL John Law Panoramas www.john-law.org.uk m...@john-law.org.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Drifting off topic (was: Re-2: on standalonesaved)
I would absolutely loved to have been invited (can you just imagine all the amazing insights Jacqueline keeps hidden in there simply because she doesn't realize how we would all benefit if she just let it all out?). That said, it does seems a bit creepy, and I suspect my wife would have words. On 2010-02-22, at 9:11 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: I will have pretty soon. But for now it's mostly a case of Jim joining Sarah in my brain, which you'd think I'd notice, but I was obviously elsewhere. I hope they're happy in there, it's a bit of a mess from where I stand. Sorry, I just stepped out for a while. You're on your own in there Jim :-) Sarah -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
peoples choice
Hello World In an attempt to reawaken my long dormant hypertalk skills I'm trying to build a Runrev stack that allows visitors to an exhibition to vote for a numbered photograph, store the choice and give a 'current votes' result. I expect there is a Peoples Choice stack somewhere in the archive and would be grateful for pointers to it. bw from Bath UK JL John Law Panoramas www.john-law.org.uk m...@john-law.org.uk 01225 339590 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sorting question
This function provides for a *truly uniform* random sort: function scramble x -- scramble lines or items in a row put the number of lines of x into z if z = 1 then put the number of items of x into n else put the number of lines of x into n repeat with i=n down to 2 put random(i) into k if z=1 then put item k of x into t else put line k of x into t if z=1 then put item i of x into item k of x else put line i of x into line k of x if z=1 then put t into item i of x else put t into line i of x end repeat return x end scramble -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Setting the blendLevel of BGColor with no color...???
Hi All... I'm guessing you shouldn't be able to do this: on MouseDown if the backgroundcolor of me is then set the backgroundcolor of me to blue set the ink of me to blend set the blendLevel of me to 50 else set the backgroundcolor of me to set the ink of me to blend set the blendLevel of me to 100 end if end mouseDown This works fine with a series of rectangle graphics. Setting the backgroundColor to results in a transparent rectangle but still containing an Opaque qualities. (However still couldn't get them to change while mouse down and dragging...but I digress...) However, when you try to control the blendlevel of colored rectangles with a scrollbar the rectangles with their backgroundColor set to turn white. I was hoping I could still preserve the transparency and keep the rectangle grcs opaque. (I need to the user to be able click on them to either colorize or remove color with a click.) Here's my scrollbar: on mouseStillDown put the number of grcs of group grid - 1 into ModTransparency put 1 into X repeat ModTransparency set the blendLevel of grc (rectangleX) to ThumbPosition of me add 1 to X end repeat put the thumbPosition of me end mouseStillDown Is setting the bgcolor of a grc to not really something that is supposed to result in a transparent grc with an opaque setting of true? Thanks! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Continuous MouseDown Colorization of Graphic Grid?
Hi All... I've created a grid of graphic rectangles that I can colorize and make transparent (blend). I would like to be able to let the user drag the mouse while holding the mouse button down and colorize each rectangle they drag across. On the flip side, if the rectangle is already colorized, I would like to it to turn it's blend level to 100 and set its color to empty. Again, if there were a series of rectangles in the grid that were colorized, dragging across them with the mouse down with de-colorize them. I can't seem to get my head around the mousedown while dragging part? I've tried mouseEnter, but that gets messy when accidentally dragging over a rect in the grid you don't want colorized; I have tried MouseStillDown with no luck there either. Anyone done anything similar with a transparent grid? The grid would sit on top of an image, like for example a map, and the colorizing would enable the user to, essentially, focus in on a particular part of the image below. Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid form - sorting?
Malte, try this: ## if the timeStamp is a number put numeric into theSort or, ## if the timeStamp is a date and time put date and time into theSort dispatch sortDataByKey to group dataGrid with timeStamp,theSort,descending,false timeStamp = the key to sort by theSort = the sort type descending = the direction false = whether or not the sort is case-sensitive Cheers, John I have a datagrid form that has a timestamp in its dataArray. I would like to sort the data in the datagrid using that timestamp. For lists this is easy, but is it also possible for forms? the data might look like this tData[1][timestamp] tData[1][otherData] tData[2][timestamp] tData[2][otherData] Thanks in advance, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AnimationEngine Arcade shooter strategy?
Thanks Malte! I just have one little issue with the example. I have the aeEnterFrame deleting the grc target when there is a collision between the projectile and the grc target. However, after it deletes the grc it throws up the script dialog box immediately with password required for the AnimationEngine stack. I think it's related to the aeMoveDone call, because after I delete the grc target it can't complete the aeMoveTo nestled in the aeMoveDone call anymore. I attempted to trap for this by adding some conditions based on the number of grc target (s), so that if it = 0 it would just exit aeMoveDone. That didn't seem to help. Any suggestions? Thanks for your help! Thank you! John Patten --snip Message: 25 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:45:43 +0100 From: Malte Pfaff-Brill revolut...@derbrill.de Subject: Re: AnimationEngine Arcade shooter strategy? To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: c68c4f21-e294-4f1f-9d62-82805c460...@derbrill.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi John, if you use AE 2.9 or higher, aeMoveTo is your friend. aeMoveTo is a one line command that moves your object. it automatically sets up the needed timer to move the object and moves it from its current location to an end point you specify. You can apply an easing effect to the movement, which makes it look quite nicely. Also, aeMoveTo sends callback messages, while the object is moving. Here is a starter. Assumes AE is in use and a button projectile and a button target exist. Also an image cannon Script is in the card: on mouseDown set the loc of btn projectile to the loc of image cannon shoot end mouseDown on shoot aeMoveTo the long ID of btn projectile,the mouseLoc,400,inOut end shoot on aeEnterFrame if intersect(btn projectile,btn target) then --more sophisticated collision detection goes here put boom end if end aeEnterFrame Hope that helps, Malte -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AnimationEngine Arcade shooter strategy?
Hi All... Trying to come up with a simple arcade shooter type game. I'm using Animation Engine. I would like to be able to aim a cannon (button that switches icon based on the FindAngle of canon and mouseLoc) at a moving target (img) and then check for collision between projectile and target. 1. I can animate the canon rotation with FindAngle, however will probably need to rename images so direction of cannon matches angle returned. 2. I (think) understand the AE collision too.. 3. What I'm having trouble with is understanding how to animate and direct the projectile, based on the direction of the canon. So many of the AE examples are based on a path, that I assume I will need to create a path, line (invisible), between the canon and the proposed target. Creating the first point of that line is pretty straight forward, however, determining the angle of the canon's muzzle (canons have muzzles?) and the complimentary angle of the line and the intended target, a point farther down the line, feels way beyond my skills. Would it be wise to have the user drag a marker, something like a cross-hair image, to a screen location to represent the user's proposed aim, and then get the loc of the cross hair image and then the loc of the cannon to create the line path? Or are their better ways of doing what I'm trying? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AnimationEngine and Creating Icons in Photoshop...?
DISCLAIMER: This question is targeting Malte Brill and is more Photoshop related then Rev...however I thought it might be useful for others, so here goes... I've been experimenting with Animation Engine, and have been creating some icons that work as levers, odd shaped dials, etc. etc. Using some of the nice functions that Malte has created and his excellent examples I can set the icon ID of button to give the illusion of these icons turning. However, the hard part seems creating the 360 icon representations for the animations and such. I have access to Adobe CS3 (PS, Fireworks, Illus, etc.) but I'm no expert in any of these apps, especially when it comest to automating processes. In PhotoShop I can create Actions however, doing something like...create layer, rotate 1 degree, copy layer, repeat, repeat, 360 times, does not seem to be in my range of expertise :-) Malte, or any of the other graphic experts (Scott R., Richard G.), Do you have any sites or tips you can point me to for automating the creation of images for animations and icons? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: large-file sharing
On 2009-12-23, at 11:00 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: *** I would like you recommendations of where to upload a free version of a 150 megabyte program *** Try Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/home#/ -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A Rev Web Project and On-Rev working together?
Hi All... I finished my little Rev web application example. It is still a little rough, but I hope it sparks some conversations with those interested on how it was done :-) I'm going to send out to our teachers and administrators tomorrow. So if you do see anything that's buggy or suggestions for making it better ( in know there are probably plenty) :-) It is accessible at: http://jpatten.on-rev.com/xmas/ Cheers Happy Holidays! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
A Rev Web Project and On-Rev working together?
Hi All! I have a little rev project that I will eventually turn into a webRevProject. I would like to have this little webRevProject project store a line of text into an on-rev text file. I'm not quite getting it right... Here are the three parts that I have: 1. Rev Projects Script put theSentence-created in totalTime seconds into theSentence set the clipboardData[text] to theSentence put sentence = urlEncode(theSentence) into tMyPostData post tMyPostData to URL http://jpatten.on-rev.com/xmas/saveSentence.irev 2. SaveSentence.irev html ?rev put $_POST[sentence] return after URL: file:sentence.txt ? /html 3. sentence.txt (a blank text file waiting to be written to) Is there something I missed? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A Rev Web Project and On-Rev working together?
Thanks Sarah and Bj?rnke! I had a funny feeling about the : colon after URLhowever, I could of swore I lifted that script from one of the examples, and it had a colon in there... In any case I removed it and it worked fine :-) Bj?rnke, as for copying the sentence to the clipboard, is there a technical reason why this is a bad idea, it's not being written to the harddrive? Is it because the user might have been saving something else on the clipboard and that action replaces what they had previously saved? I was using the copy to clipboard as a kind of cheat. I'm going to embed the rev project into Drupal web page. Originally, I was hoping to figure out how to have the Rev app automatically post an anonymous comment to the Drupal page (the little rev app was embedded in.) But not sure how I actually would do it. Ultimately I was looking for a way the user would be able to share a sentence that they create by dragging a few words from some song lyrics I know it sounds a little lame, but I was just going to use it as example for some teachers as to what these tools can do all together. I was hoping to have the Rev project duplicate the process of the Drupal comment action, using the Rev interface instead of the Drupal interface...but still having the user's work show up in the comments section. As an alternative I may just load a new Drupal Module that pulls a static html file, ...one like Rev creates in my example here. That might work to if I move a way from having the user just past their comment off the clipboard. Thank you! John Patten On Dec 16, 2009, at 4:33 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: -- Message: 23 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:45:04 +1000 From: Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com Subject: Re: A Rev Web Project and On-Rev working together? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: f99b52860912161345g6d107850m7f157d17160f0...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have a little rev project that I will eventually turn into a webRevProject. I would like to have this little webRevProject project store a line of text into an on-rev text file. I'm not quite getting it right... Here are the three parts that I have: 1. Rev Projects Script put theSentence-created in totalTime seconds into theSentence set the clipboardData[text] to theSentence put sentence = urlEncode(theSentence) into tMyPostData post tMyPostData to URL http://jpatten.on-rev.com/xmas/saveSentence.irev; 2. SaveSentence.irev html ?rev put $_POST[sentence] return after URL: file:sentence.txt ? /html 3. sentence.txt (a blank text file waiting to be written to) Basically, this should work fine, but there are a couple of things which may be typos in your email, or may be causing problems. In Step 1, you post to saveSentence.irev, but in step 2, you say the irev file is called SaveSentence.irev. Servers are usually case-sensitive, so you need to make these 2 consistent. In step 2, you have: URL: file:sentence.txt but the colon after URL is not correct. For testing purposes, check it and the result after the post command to see if there is any error or returned value. In your irev file, have it write a log file showing all the $_POST variables to check what is arriving. HTH, Sarah -- Message: 24 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:45:14 +0100 From: Bj?rnke von Gierke b...@mac.com Subject: Re: A Rev Web Project and On-Rev working together? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 55466469-d402-4cfc-a032-def7dce2b...@mac.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes A http server (like on-rev) needs to always return something. making that something (as in your case) be html/html seems to be rather unusual and nondescript, but should work. still you might want to check the result in your rev stack, to make sure the script on the server actually works as expected. Also, you're missing validation and security. anyone can write anything into your text file, if he or she wants to, and sooner or later they will. If there are a lot of users (hundrets per second), you might also run into the problem of some text not being stored in the file, because another user overwrites the first change (competing file access). Note that there's script errors in your supplied example, so i guess you're missing those too. For example URL: in the irev file should of course be URL, and probably i'm missing some too :) A file created by you might not be accessible to the process the web server runs at (unix user handling and file access restrictions). But this is more a what if everything else is correct and it still fails unexpectedly scenario. If things don't work, try to return stuff
Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE
On 2009-12-13, at 11:00 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Can someone give me a quick summary of why I might want to use the MetaCard IDE instead of RunRev's? It seems that a lot of users of this group use MC. Is it just what you were used to or is there some feature that Rev's doesn't? Just curious. len Partly, it is because it is what I am familiar with, no doubt. But, I am not a fanatic about it: I encourage all my students to begin with RunRev using the RunRev IDE, and I use it on those occasions where I need to develop a complicated (read prettified) interface. However, those who go on to become the more proficient programmers seem to drift to the MetaCard IDE as they gain experience. The main difference is that the MC IDE, for the most part, because it is so close to the engine, stays out of your way. So much so, that at least for my current and former students and me, we rarely compile standalones, preferring to run our stacks in the MC IDE itself. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Simultaneous Animations...
Hi All... Looking for a strategy to implement random animations, and then have the animated objects interactions result in additional data...these animations would be part of simulations for students. I posted a small example of my first attempt by using polygons and then modifying the points of those polygons and having the object move along their paths. It up on RevOnline tagged with Animation. Not sure if there is a better way, probably will invest in AnimationEngine... seems to simplify many of the things I would like to do once I get a strategy down for animating the screen objects. However, not sure if the randomizing poygon points strategy is the correct way to about about randomizing objects on the screen...? Any other suggestions? Thank you! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Simultaneous Animations
Thanks Malte! That's just what I was trying to do! Much more elegant than my monstrosity :-) I'm guessing I would also be able to call events while the animation is taking place? Events initiated if animated objects cross paths, or get within a certain distance from each other. Maybe even the ability to record these types of events to a field while they are happening? Andre, in my weak attempt, I was going to hide the path polygons. However, I liked the designs they created too. It is a little interesting how if you grab and move a polygon while the animation is running the animated objects continue to remember the original point locations. And Richmond, after knocking back a few and then re-reading your reply, I think I got the gist of it and Malte's example seems to address them. Or, ...maybe I need to go back to the bottle :-) Thanks for all the suggestions and examples! Very much appreciated! John Patten -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution End of use-revolution Digest, Vol 75, Issue 7 * ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Syllabic division of words
Something close to what I think Randall was talking about is LSA (Latent Semantic Analysis). Indeed, rumour has long held that it is the basis of Apple's junk filter in Safari. The original source for the work is here: http://lsa.colorado.edu/ On 22-Aug-09, at 6:47 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Randall, OK, well let's carry on from there. Are you familiar with this project? http://www.research.sun.com/knowledge/papers.html Something similar in xTalk would be pretty darn cool, I would think. Especially if it were to index and search the web =). -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] Game update
For anyone interested in wasting some time, I've updated the 'Air Traffic Control' game stack on Rev Online. The animation is a bit smoother in the new version. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
moving multiple stacks - slight stutter
I saw rocketdock mentioned recently a couple of times and it's reminded me of a small problem (more of an annoyance) I encountered. I wrote a dock using rev and used individual stacks for each icon to get the transparency effect. The stacks are lined up next to each other and moved/resized as the mouse moves over them. It's not totally obvious from the video, but the 5th and 7th icons (stacks) move with a slight stutter compared to all the other ones. It always seems to be positions 5 and 7, even when switching the order of the icons around. Any ideas why this would happen? - each stack is a clone of an existing template stack, so they all have identical properties. Any tips / ideas appreciated. JC short video; http://splash21.on-rev.com/temp/dock.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Zip files
Hi, Does anybody know if it's possible to password protect winzip compatible zip files using Revolution?. Thx, John ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Newbie question
Hi All, I'm looking at Rev and RB and was wondering if there are any samples / demo stacks that show how to use sqlite databse without using buttons to create or connect to. It would be really helpful to see how to create / connect to sqlite databases using code as opposed to buttons. Regards, John ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Repeat Process To Check Contents of File on HTTP Server?
Thanks Phil and Bjoernke! That's what I needed...send command. Seems so obvious when you see someone else explain it :-) Now, that I understand send, here's my dilemma. What I'm trying to create is a little app that allows a teacher in the classroom to push out a web site they have loaded in their teacher browser out to to all 32 student laptops in their classroom. I thought this would be a perfect implementation for revBrowser, a custom web browser. I remember in the past struggling with Rev and opening sockets to try to get two Rev stacks to talk to each other. I never had very much success with that process so I thought I would try to keep it real basic and utilize web sharing and writing out a text file with the teacher's current web site address and time stamp to the local web sites folder. The client (student) computers would check that text file every 5 seconds, continually, and then if the time stamp is different from the last web address and time stamp, load the new web address in the client (student) browser. The key word in those run on sentences is continually. In the examples shared, the scripts handlers are opencard and mousedown. They only run, essentially, one time through and after the time stamp is different, the script would end. I started to mess with an idle handler, but that gets messy real quick. Is what I'm describing possible? To have a script run continually in the background over and over? Or, maybe I'm going at this custom teacher to student web browser thing all wrong? Any ideas greatly appreciated! Thank you! John Patten On May 7, 2009, at 10:00 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: 5. Re: Repeat Process To Check Contents of File on HTTP Server? (Phil Davis) 12. Re: Repeat Process To Check Contents of File on HTTP Server? (Bj?rnke von Gierke) -- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 23:31:52 -0700 From: Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net Subject: Re: Repeat Process To Check Contents of File on HTTP Server? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 4a028058.9010...@pdslabs.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed John Patten wrote: Hi All! I'm making a little web browser client that needs to check the contents of a file on a web server. It needs to be able to do this every 5 seconds or so in the background, and then if the contents changes in the last line of the file it is checking, it starts another process in the background. Can this be done in Rev? Would I use two stacks, one as the browser and one with the repeat loop? I'm at a loss for what this might look like in a script? Hi John, Are you familiar with the send command? If not, I think you're about to be... ;o) -- prep: since you're looking for a change in data values, -- you need to store its initial value so you have something -- to compare to global gOriginalData -- and the data check has to be put into motion: on openCard -- store initial value put url http://my.website.com/targetfile.txt; into gOriginalData -- put the data check into motion send checkWebFile to me in 5 secs end openCard -- the data check on checkWebFile -- get fresh copy of the data put url http://my.website.com/targetfile.txt; into tCurrData if (last line of tCurrData last line of gOriginalData) then send (startOtherProcess tCurrData) to me in 1 sec else -- data hasn't changed, so schedule another check send checkWebFile to me in 5 secs end if end checkWebFile -- the other background process on startOtherProcess pChangedData -- do your other stuff here end startOtherProcess The send... in construct 'disconnects' the calling and called handlers from each other, so the calling one can finish executing before the called one starts. And by saying in 5 secs, you insert idle time when the UI can be refreshed interacted with. It keeps the user from being locked out of the UI due to continuous running of code you might have if you tried using a repeat loop for data checks. Hopefully this will get you started. Thanks in Advance! John Patten -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net -- Message: 12 Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:34:20 +0200 From: Bj?rnke von Gierke b...@mac.com Subject: Re: Repeat Process To Check Contents of File on HTTP Server? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: b4a2fc5f-2523-4d98-8818-784299b14...@mac.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I suggest to use the put command with the url keyword, using a send in time structure: on mouseUp checkWebsite end mouseUp on checkWebsite thePrev put line -1 of url http://yoursite.com/yourfile; into theCurrent if thePrev theCurrent then --do your stuff here, it changed! end if send checkWebsite theCurrent to me in 4.5
Repeat Process To Check Contents of File on HTTP Server?
Hi All! I'm making a little web browser client that needs to check the contents of a file on a web server. It needs to be able to do this every 5 seconds or so in the background, and then if the contents changes in the last line of the file it is checking, it starts another process in the background. Can this be done in Rev? Would I use two stacks, one as the browser and one with the repeat loop? I'm at a loss for what this might look like in a script? Thanks in Advance! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2 things
Amateurs. I still keep Apple ][ GS computers running (you want vblint sync, that is all that is left; you want horizontal line scanning sync: there is no other machine!). And Hypercard on the ][GS (full colour!) was in many ways what hypercard should have been on the mac. It died with the ][GS, but it was fun. I still run it in emulation on OSX (and then back-port the software to the ][GSs). On 21-Apr-09, at 6:55 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Wow, Andre, that's the right attitude! Unfortunately about 9 of my older computers are stuffed in the attic of my house in St Andrews, Scotland, and I have yet to work out how to get them to Bulgaria (especially my 'first love', my BBC Master Compact). I had great fun 2 years ago, on holiday in Scotland, running up a whole pile of simple programs for my school using Runtime Revolution 1.1.1 on an all-in-one Mac Performa PC 5260CD and then burning all the stuff onto a CD via my external 4x SCSI burner; lovely job! I also managed to convert some Hypercard stuff of mine with Metacard and then use that as a foundation for some new things. Mind you, the built-to-order SCSI card I have in the back of my G4 Mac only seems to work with Mac OS 9, and then plays funny games with my ZIP drive. If I could get all my old Macs to Bulgaria I would probably use them instead of the Pentium IIIs with Ubuntu as I believe their lives will be longer. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution
Richmond, Point well taken. My program allows the user to show slideshows, create notes, etc, etc, etc. in a much simpler way than PowerPoint. Frustration with PowerPoint was the main reason I started writing my program in the first place, and I personally never use it. However, there are a number of reasons my customers give for wanting this feature: 1. They have invested a great deal of time creating PowerPoint files and don't want to redo them. 2. We live in a powerPoint world. My users are often given a PowerPoint file from their denomination or a guest speaker who brings a PowerPoint file that they would like to project. Given enough time, we could convert these files, but when you are handed a file ten minutes before a church service, you can't always do the conversion. 3. Some people have learned to use PowerPoint and don't want to learn another system even though it may be much simpler. 4. So, my user's buy my software to do what it does best, but still want the ability to show PowerPoint files from within my app. In short - The customer is always right - even when they're wrong !!! ; ) John On Apr 17, 2009, at 5:27 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: This whole set of posts seems somehow redundant when the whole Power Point thing can be handled within Runtime Revolution itself. Making a presentation that is 'Power-Point-like' in Runtime Revolution is extremely easy; and once that's done nobody has to rely on an external program and how Runtime Revolution is going to control it. And, by-the-by; the average presentation in RR takes far less RAM than MS Powerpoint or OO Impress; a standalone also means that the end-user doesn't have to have any of these heavy great programs clogging up their arteries. This may seem like an incredibly obvious point (and it should be); but I wonder if the good folks in Edinburgh while concentrating on how their product can play databases and suck information in from the Internet, hither and yon are forgetting RR's other, possibly more prosaic capabilities which are also extremely useful; and if used, would mean there was no real need for questions of the sort: How do I control an external slide-show from RR? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution
Greetings All, I am trying to write a script that will allow the user to open and show a powerpoint presentation and then give control back to revolution when finished. I am currently using the launch command, but don't like seeing all the PowerPoint startup items. The presentation runs OK, but when it is done, it closes the presentation and shows the regular PowerPoint development windows. My end users do NOT want to convert their presentation to a batch of jpegs. They would prefer just showing the PP presentation and then come right back to their runtime app. Can this be done? John Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution
Thanks for the hints everybody. Luis, I don't have any experience with using command lines. Could you describe the process? Is this something that you call from within RR? Also, can any of you comment on the question of handing control back to RR after the presentation is shown? Thanks, John Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution
Hey Guys, I've enjoyed reading all your comments about Open Office, Neo Office, and Google Docs. It may be that I can use this info later. However, for the moment, I wonder if I can rein this discussion in and focus on the problem at hand. My software is a church projection software package that handles many different kinds of media. My end users are happy with PowerPoint and want to use what they have created inside my application (transitions and all). My question is this - Does anyone know how to hand control back to RR after the PowerPoint presentation is over. I want this to be as seamless as possible so my users don't have to jostle back and forth between two programs. Thanks for your help. You're all great!! John Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table field text formating
On 17-Dec-08, at 9:12 PM, Richard wrote: It may be easier to get the exact feature you need than to ask RunRev to become a type foundry. If all you need is a one-pixel font, I'm sure there are plenty around. But perhaps we might ask why this is useful, and look one step further to the mechanics of the underlying text rendering in the field object to get exactly what we most want. It may be that such additions would become trivial once RunRev adds independent column alignment to fields. Slogging through big blocks of text line by line and/or word by word, measuring each and adding/subtracting a number of special one-pixel characters can be quite slow, and not the sort of thing I enjoy teaching to newcomers for simple text alignment. So hopefully instead we can just get the appearance we want just as we want it at the moment it's rendered. I doesn't hurt to ask. :) Yes, and we have those text-description languages available now: postscript (which most of us now experience as PDF) and TeX/LaTeX--- both of which microtype to way (way!) better than a 1-pixel character. Writing the code for either is (relatively) trivial. So, given every modern operating system has engines for both, all Rev has to do is invoke the engines when needed. For example, in addition to html, one should be able to declare a field postscript or TeX/LaTeX, put the code, and Rev simply calls the appropriate engine/renderer to produce it. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -Dr. John R. Vokey ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: When they ask, what is this written in?
I say the same thing, except I call it Metacard. On 1-Dec-08, at 7:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, just to throw another spanner in the works:- The very few times people ask me how I make my programs I state that I use: Runtime Revolution, a complete programming package. No 'language', 'IDE', 'GUI', and so on, os mentioned; probably because most people seem perfectly satisfied with that answer. The few who are not satisfied get treated to 30 minutes of my demonstrating RR, and 30 minutes while I go away and let them play with RR. The end result is either Wow! or I don't understand how computers work anyway. -- Yep, the dyslexic atheist claims there is no dog, but that is not half as risky as the dyslexic devil worshiper who sold his soul to Santa ;-) Dr. John R. Vokey ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Random algorithm
All, rant This has bugged me for a long time (back to the days of the Apple //, at least). All programming languages should *document* their RNGs, so we have some idea of what they are, and, especially, how bad they are (and most are very bad). LGN RNGs are not necessarily bad (a colleague and I developed some quite good ones, back in the day: http://www.kaner.com/pdfs/random.pdf , but, as Marsaglia has documented more recently, we can do so much better. If you want the Rev (actually, old hypercard) code for my and Kaner's LNG RNGs, I can send it to you, but it is recursive (it replaces itself in place), so can only be used in the IDE or Rev Player (or any variant that doesn't render the RNG stack as a standalone). But, the better principle is the more RNGs (even bad ones) the better. Then, as Marsaglia demonstrated, simply *combine* them in some way: e.g., use RNG 1 to choose which of n RNGs you choose from next, use the result of that second RNG to select among the remaining n-1, and so on, until you get a number. Even a collection of bad RNGs will produce quite random numbers under Marsaglia's insight. /rant On 12-Nov-08, at 6:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks for your two cents ! I wonder if the first name of people answering my first question is really random : Mark, Mark and Mark... Jacques ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Hey Malte, Very sorry to hear what happened, I agree with the thank goodness you am not like them sentiment that Mark expressed. I have had a similar experience. One effect of starting over is that ALL the thinking and refinement you have done to date is where you start from, not from the place you started from last time. For me (when this happened a few years ago) I think the second round product was a lot cleaner than the first round. But in the meantime there is that horrible feeling in the pit of your stomach, yes? Let me know directly if you need anything. Regards (and a little awkward hug) John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Malte Brill Sent: Thursday, 9 October 2008 8:52 PM To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two) Hi all, today is the worst day in my self employment life. I arrived at the office today, just to learn that everything apple branded is gone. Stolen. Away. Not only that, but my external backup HD also vanished and a few things I was pretty fond of, like a keyboard (music) and a microphone. I do not care too much about the machines. Those are replacable. But I lost at least 3 months worth of data. I had something cool coming up, but I am afraid I am thrown back to point zero, at least with the documentation. The people I have been talking off list will know what I mean. So everyone who is involved with that project, I beg your patience, as I really need to start freshly on it. And just now I can't. I just feel like sitting in the corner and weeping. So if any of you has any urgent support queries for AE or other stuff I beg your patience. It might be a day or two until I recover. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Scrolling stack windows?
Great news. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chipp Walters Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2008 8:32 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Scrolling stack windows? copy button 1 to group 1 It works. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:08 AM, John Tregea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or is there a way of cloning into a group the way I can copy into a card? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Scrolling stack windows?
Dear Mark, Thanks for that. I think I would have to ungroup the existing top level group then select whatever number of clones groups the user is displaying and regroup them. Or is there a way of cloning into a group the way I can copy into a card? Thanks and regards John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Schonewille Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2008 6:32 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Scrolling stack windows? Hi John, Group all objects and set the rect of this new group to the rect of the card (you may need to make adjustemnts if you have a menubar). Set the hScrollba, vScrollbar and the lockLoc of the group to true. Now you have something that's very close to a scrolling window. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 8 okt 2008, at 03:36, John Tregea wrote: Hello again fellow Revolutionaries : ) I have built an interface where users can keep on adding new layers of information down a stack window by clicking a button at the bottom of the bottom most layer (the button clones the last group and re-populates the fields to suit the new context). Because the users frequently want to display 6 or 7 layers one below the other they quickly run out of screen space. I believe there are no scrollbars that I can turn on in the stack window like I can on a text field? I hope I am wrong? But if I am correct can anyone point me to examples of scrollbars being used to scroll multiple groups within a window? Regards John Tregea ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: VISTA Printing Woes
This email made me laugh. It is a perfect example of why Revolution is such a brave and difficult product to deliver. Vista, printer brands, trays of paper and oh yes, Japanese :) Not laughing at the problem Nicolas, just the amazing complexity of the environment and the seemingly endless number of things we can all think of to do with it... Sorry I can't answer the question, if only the OS was speaking Mandarin? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicolas Cueto Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2008 3:47 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: VISTA Printing Woes Hello, A 2.9-built standalone's printing function suddenly no longer works -- kind of. Looking thru the archives, a likely culprit is Vista. Anyway. I say kind of, cause I did finally manage to get a print-out when I over-rode my printer's automatic paper-tray selection option and, instead, manually selected front-loading tray. And only the frond-loading tray option words; none of the other three in-built trays works when selected. The (Ipsio) printer is on a network, and MS-Office applications (Word, Excel) have no problems printing. Oh, and I'm on a Japanese version of Vista. By the way. The problem also occurs with the Rev development environment. Hopefully, someone has more info on this problem. But I'm posting mostly to offer a possible work-around. Cheers, Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Scrolling stack windows?
Hello again fellow Revolutionaries : ) I have built an interface where users can keep on adding new layers of information down a stack window by clicking a button at the bottom of the bottom most layer (the button clones the last group and re-populates the fields to suit the new context). Because the users frequently want to display 6 or 7 layers one below the other they quickly run out of screen space. I believe there are no scrollbars that I can turn on in the stack window like I can on a text field? I hope I am wrong? But if I am correct can anyone point me to examples of scrollbars being used to scroll multiple groups within a window? Regards John Tregea ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 60, Issue 34
Use GraphicConvertor (it can be used freely) on the snapshots to create a gif movie, setting the timing for each shot, then covert to qt format. On 16-Sep-08, at 11:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snapper is not working like I'd hoped, at least with my primitive eMac. The problem seems to be that the display is not always fully rendered for the screen 'snap', so that the image sometimes is incomplete. Too bad, because this could be an easy way to accomplish what I need to do. I will borrow a much more capable Mac and try again. However, it looks like exporting snapshots from Revolution and then creating a qt movie from the saved images might be the most reliable way to render the sequence of images as a qt movie. I'm open to suggestions about the best way to create a qt movie from the saved snapshot images. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -Dr. John R. Vokey ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i
Thank you all, for this discussion. Really. It was more informative than the release notes could even hope to be. The exemplars of why the new array features were so obviously useful helped me a lot in exactly one way: I have no idea what you who promote these ``new'' features are on about. Opaque doesn't begin to describe my appreciation of your views on these ``new'' features. Admittedly, I have only been programming in everything from machine code through every passing fad since the 1960s, so I may be either dated or stunned. But, really, I just don't get it. Again, I ask, what have we gained by the ``new'' array features, besides more brackets? Setting fred[z] to empty does not seem to me to be a major advancement. Or, at least not one that is at best a trivial change. Telling me that you can now set orange to apple does not help except in light of how anyone could not do so before. As far as I can see nothing prevented anyone from doing so in the old array system. So, please, please, help me. I am usually the first to jump on the newest and latest, but these new array referencing functions leave me non- plussed. And they still suffer from an old incongruity that I have complained about for years: array[fred] differs if fred has been previously defined (i.e., has content), in which case the content (value?) of array[fred] is the value(fred) of array; otherwise it is the literal fred of array. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -Dr. John R. Vokey ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Rev 3.0 Cloning problem
Hi Bernard, When I copied the script from the 3.0 script editor and pasted it into the email all the spaces were somehow stripped out. I didn't notice until later. Regards John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernard Devlin Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2008 5:19 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Rev 3.0 Cloning problem Just a quick question: is this really the line of code you have in the script editor: sendchoose browse tooltomein1tick Or have the spaces been stripped out somehow? Bernard On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:55 AM, John Tregea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Fellow Rev'ers, I have been trying out Rev 3.0 across a number of iterations and recently came across a problem (3.0gm Build 750). I have a piece of code that makes a clone of a stack, renames it and then populates the new version of the stack with data from a database. This has worked fine in 2.8, 2.9 and earlier iterations of 3.0. The problem is that when the script gets to the clone command it performs that line then just exits as if there is no more code. No error is returned. Anyone seen this behaviour? The code looks like this. ifthereisnotastack tTheStack then clonestackresource_template sendchoose browse tooltomein1tick setthenameofstack it to tTheStack endif The variable tTheStack contains the name for the new stack. In debug mode the variable is correctly populated, the stack IS cloned, then the script just exits. Any help would be appreciated Regards John Tregea Technology Director Debraneys +61 (0) 4 0363 9367 Mobile www.debraneys.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Rev 3.0 Cloning problem
Dear Mark, Thanks for the guidance. Both your version and mine just stopped at the line clone stack resource_template That line is executed (and the resource_template stack is cloned), but the next line is not. I just tried inserting Lock messages before the clone stack command and now it is ok. It struck me that there may have been another window message handler being triggered that was interrupting the process. Hm. Regards John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Schonewille Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2008 7:57 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Rev 3.0 Cloning problem Hi John, The correct procedure is: clone stack resouce_template put it into myTempStackID -- do other stuff here set the name of myTempStackID to myStackName You don't need the keyword stack before the variable containing the long ID of the new stack. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz http://facebook.economy-x-talk.com Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 10 sep 2008, at 06:55, John Tregea wrote: Hi Fellow Rev'ers, I have been trying out Rev 3.0 across a number of iterations and recently came across a problem (3.0gm Build 750). I have a piece of code that makes a clone of a stack, renames it and then populates the new version of the stack with data from a database. This has worked fine in 2.8, 2.9 and earlier iterations of 3.0. The problem is that when the script gets to the clone command it performs that line then just exits as if there is no more code. No error is returned. Anyone seen this behaviour? The code looks like this. ifthereisnotastack tTheStack then clonestackresource_template sendchoose browse tooltomein1tick setthenameofstack it to tTheStack endif The variable tTheStack contains the name for the new stack. In debug mode the variable is correctly populated, the stack IS cloned, then the script just exits. Any help would be appreciated Regards John Tregea ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i
On 11-Sep-08, at 7:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 11, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: Now I understand, I didn't consider not to tell rev how many sub arrays there would be. I have no clue when this would be useful though, maybe you can explain that? Sure. One thing that the ability to dynamically specify a key would do is open up additional algorithms. Let's take the XML for example. T ... ellipsis intentional Can anybody explain what the new array format provides that the old did not? All these bizarre examples seem not so much as exemplifying the ``new'' features as to leave me baffled as to what added value they provide. In NONE of the supposed or alleged examples have I seen anything I could not do with old arrays. So, and I mean in really simple language (not OOP-speak), wtf is up with these new arrays? I see nothing but extra brackets. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -Dr. John R. Vokey ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev 3.0 Cloning problem
Hi Fellow Rev'ers, I have been trying out Rev 3.0 across a number of iterations and recently came across a problem (3.0gm Build 750). I have a piece of code that makes a clone of a stack, renames it and then populates the new version of the stack with data from a database. This has worked fine in 2.8, 2.9 and earlier iterations of 3.0. The problem is that when the script gets to the clone command it performs that line then just exits as if there is no more code. No error is returned. Anyone seen this behaviour? The code looks like this. ifthereisnotastack tTheStack then clonestackresource_template sendchoose browse tooltomein1tick setthenameofstack it to tTheStack endif The variable tTheStack contains the name for the new stack. In debug mode the variable is correctly populated, the stack IS cloned, then the script just exits. Any help would be appreciated Regards John Tregea Technology Director Debraneys +61 (0) 4 0363 9367 Mobile www.debraneys.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
REV Send Email via CGI and mail.php script on the fly?
Hi All... Quick question, i have some projects that multiple teachers will use with their students and I would like the student results to be emailed back to their teachers. I would like this process to be transparent to the student using the stack. Can the following be done? I would like the rev project to post the student data and the identified teacher's email address (saved is stack profile settings) to the built in smtp mail.php script. I know I can get the rev stack to post to the mail.php file, but the mail php file has to be dynamic is determining what teacher's email address to send to. I was wondering if I could post the teacher's email address and the student project data to a rev cgi project on the server, and then have the rev cgi project, on the fly, create the mail.php file with the correct email address and email the student data to the teacher? Essentially, the rev cgi project would create the mail.php file based on the submitted email address, forward the student data to the file it just created (mail.php) and then possibly delete the mail.php file and wait for the next post. Can a rev cgi create a mail.php file, execute the php file by forwarding data to it, and then delete the file it created, all in one swoop? Thank you! John Patten SUSD ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
when is an integer not an integer?
The statement: set the randomseed to x is not consistent. In both the Rev and MC documentation, x must be an integer. So, for example, set the randomseed to the seconds works in the sense that a new and different sequence is subsequently generated by random and any statements. But set the randomseed to the ticks, or set the randomseed to the milliseconds, both fail in that the same sequence is generated every time. Yet, each of the ticks/the milliseconds/the seconds is an integer return true. It appears clear that the randomseed property requires small integers (on the order of the seconds). But, it is still the case that even though the ticks is an integer, is is too large of an integer for the randomseed property. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -Dr. John R. Vokey ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ExifTool Question
Greetings All, I am writing a program that allows the user to add a caption for a jpg image. Right, now, that caption is being written into a text file that sits alongside the image file. My beta testers are not happy with this solution. So, I would like to be able to include a short caption as metdata in the jpg file. From the archives, it appears that using ExifTool by Phil Harvey is the way to go. I have read dozens of archived e-mails on this topic that are W-A-Y over my head. 1. How does one attach a copy of ExifTool as an application bundle in Rev? 2. Can someone provide a sample scripts that would show me how to use ExifTool to ... A. Import the jpg file B. Add the metadata C. Export the altered jpg file 3. On a related topic (at least I think it is related), how does one attach a font to a stack so it becomes a part of the standalone app so that my users don't have to install a copy onto their machines? Thanks in advance for your help. John Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Help with basic CGI project?
Thanks Jacqueline! I did find the solution in a post you had made earlier in the archives a few years back Store your stack, in this case, the data.rev stack, outside of the cgi-bin folder. I did that and everything worked as it should. As I was trouble shooting this, i did remember seeing something about ...can't open up backup stack... but didn't think anything of it as I was trying all kinds of contortions to get this to work and thought little of it. Searching through the archives lead me to your previous post. I gota remember to search those archives more often when I have a problem! ;-) Thank you! John Patten Message: 11 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:02:13 -0500 From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help with basic CGI project? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed John Patten wrote: Couple things I?ve noticed that seem a bit strange. First, if I have multiple ?put? commands pulling text from fields on different cards, the rev cgi only will pull the text from the first card. Not sure why that would be, it should work. You could try adding a start using stack theStack command near the top of the script somewhere. If I add multiple fields to the first card, and pull the text from these fields, all on one card, it will pull the text out of the fields. It is as if the rev cgi will not go beyond the first card of the data.rev stack. Also, if I increase the number of ?create new card? commands in the text cgi script, it will report back that it created the cards, but if it does, they are only temporary and not saved. The cgi does not run as you, it runs as another user (nobody I think, but I'm not certain.) At any rate, the permissions for the stack are set to only allow you, the admin, to write to the file. You need to change that to allow anyone to write to the file. This is a bit of a security concern and most ISPs do not allow writing anything to files in a cgi folder. A better way to handle this is to store your data stack somewhere else on the server -- even in your own user folder -- and provide a long file path to the stack to open it. If you are just experimenting on your own machine and don't intend to use the script elsewhere, then it's fine to violate security of course. Rev will accept a full path as a stack reference, so it is legal to say: go stack /Users/myname/myfolder/data.rev Regardless of where you store the data file, it needs to have permissions set for anyone to write to it. Just an aside: the destroystack property is permanent, you don't have to reset it once the stack has been created and saved the first time. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Help with basic CGI project?
Hi All? I been going round and round with an issue on a very simple cgi exercise. I?m attempting to post data from a web form and store it in a field on a rev stack. Everything appears to work with the exception of saving text to a fld on the rev stack, saving new cards in the rev stack, and pulling text out of flds that are not on the first card of the stack. I had this posted on the forum but then saw the post this morning on the list about more ?eyes? on the mailing list so I thought I?d try here too. :-) Thank you Klaus, Mark, and Richard for jumping in so far! Couple things I?ve noticed that seem a bit strange. First, if I have multiple ?put? commands pulling text from fields on different cards, the rev cgi only will pull the text from the first card. If I add multiple fields to the first card, and pull the text from these fields, all on one card, it will pull the text out of the fields. It is as if the rev cgi will not go beyond the first card of the data.rev stack. Also, if I increase the number of ?create new card? commands in the text cgi script, it will report back that it created the cards, but if it does, they are only temporary and not saved. So here?s the description of what I have been doing: One stack ? Data.rev It contains three cds with one fld on each cd. CGI text script- postdata.cgi #!rev on startup put Data.rev into theStack put empty into theTerm repeat until length(theTerm) = $Content_Length read from stdin until empty put it after theTerm end repeat if theTerm = then put You don't have any data stupid! into buffer else if there is no stack theStack then put No stack of that name. after buffer --put cr theStack after buffer else put theTerm into theTermsArray split theTermsArray by and = put urlDecode(theTermsArray[terms]) into theIdentifiedTerm end if put content-Type: text/plain cr cr put number of cards: the number of cards of stack theStack cr before buffer set the destroyStack of stack theStack to true set the defaultstack to theStack create card create card create card --it appears rev creates the cards, but they are not saved put it put number of cards: the number of cards of stack theStack cr before buffer put buffer cr theIdentifiedTerm cr theStack cr cd fld thedata2 of cd 2 of / stack theStack cr cd fld theData of cd 1 of stack theStack / put theIdentifiedTerm into cd fld theData2 of cd 1 of stack theStack --put the result --put cr cd fld thedata of cd 1 of stack theStack after buffer --put cr cd fld thedata2 of cd 2 of stack theStack after buffer -put cr cd fld thedata3 of cd 3 of stack theStack after buffer save stack theStack put buffer close stack theStack quit rev end startup HTML Web Form- postdata.html html head titleSending data to rev stack/title /head body form action=http://localhost/cgi-bin/postdata.cgi; method=post p h2Send this data to the rev stack:/h2 p input type=text name=terms value=enter text here size=35 p input TYPE=reset VALUE=Reset input type=submit value=Send Text /form /body /html Permissions Set on ?server? ? (I am running this local on my Mac OS X laptop running 10.4.11) d1q4sv51:/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables johnpatten$ ls -l total 5416 -rwxr-xr-x 1 johnpatt admin1044 Jun 18 09:10 Data.rev -rwxr-xr-x 1 johnpatt johnpatt 516 Jan 9 2004 echo.mt -rwxrwxrwx 1 johnpatt johnpatt 1353 Jun 18 09:43 postdata.cgi -rwxr-xr-x 1 johnpatt johnpatt 2698096 Apr 18 2003 rev Also, I?m using the rev engine link that is on Jacqueline?s tutorial, http://downloads.runrev.com/engines/2.1.2/cgi/osx.zip I used Rev 2.9 to create the data.rev stack and then did a Save as? and saved it in Legacy Mode. If anybody sees anything I missed, I?d be greatly appreciative! Thank you! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
