date:20120521

Hi :)
Re-creating a fresh new image using the newer branch was brilliant.  Sometimes 
older documents that have been around the block a few times get a lot of 
inexplicable weirdnesses.  Sending your new version directly to the original 
poster might be enough to solve the problem.  Even if it doesn't then it would 
be a useful note for the bug-report so sending it is  a win-win.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bug #48365 filed six weeks ago. No sign of 
acknowledgement.
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 8:53

Marc;

 Here is the screen capture that I get: 
 http://www.parentreprise.com/images/LibreOffice/990C-Graphics2012-03-19.odg.png
  


Your captured image is (obviously) not even close to what it is supposed to 
look like. The 990c text appears to be a completely different font in your 
screen capture. HOWEVER: I just loaded the file directly from the bug report 
page into Draw 3.5.2.2 again. The file was in read-only mode, so I Saved it to 
my hard drive and reopened it to be able to see what the actual fonts are. 
Observations:

1. The 990c text looked OK. When I highlight the 990c text, the font is 
identified by Draw as Square 721 with the Bold attribute turned on. This is 
an OpenType font, and the Bold attribute should not be on. When I turn the Bold 
attribute off, the font changes completely, looking much less square, much more 
rounded, similar to the font in your screen capture. It looks like a slightly 
bolder version of the font that is used for the text under the 990c text, 
specifically the U.S. PATENT #4,287,479 text (the 9 is the best clue). That 
text is the Formata font. There is a bold version of Formata, and the 990c 
text from your image is bolder than the regular Formata, but not as bold as the 
actual Bold version. But almost identical in form. I wonder if some metrics 
were mixed up.

2. The font name Square 721 that is displayed when I highlight the existing 
990c text isn't the full name of the font. If I add new text, the font list 
has Square 721 Condensed as the name of the font, and the Bold attribute is 
NOT turned on. It does not need to be turned on. In fact, turning the Bold 
attribute ON has no effect on the appearance of the font in this case. If I add 
new text using Square 721 Condensed, then go back to that text later to 
verify, it is still described as Square 721 Condensed. I don't know if the 
shorter name of the font in the example drawing matters. It may just be a 
shorthand way for Draw to identify the font by name. Or it may be an indication 
of other issues with the handling of fonts.

Some of the small type appears to be a different font than it should be, 
particularly the word OUT (Output). It is supposed to be much narrower in 
appearance, using the Humanist 521 condensed font. Same effect with the -V 
and +V text (the +V text is partially covered by the mangled 990c text in 
your image.

I've done some quick experiments with a simple new drawing created in Draw 
3.5.2.2. I'm not sure, but things seem to be handled OK when Exported as an EPS 
file. On the other hand, GIMP printed a blank page. So, I will look into it 
more tomorrow. Lots of variables. There is also the fact that you are using a 
slightly later version of Draw (3.5.3.2), so it is hard to tell where the 
errors are being introduced.

Thanks you very much for your help. More information later.

John

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

Hi :)
I don't think the QuickStarter is made for GnuLinux systems.  We get a bit 
spoiled.  If things don't almost instantly then we tend to be a bit impatient.  

With Windows people get used to their systems slowing down quite a lot or being 
given a system that is desperately slow.  It gets so slow that a number of 
work-arounds have been built, such as keeping programs open all the time even 
if they are not being used.  This makes them appear to 'open' faster and gives 
the illusion that the system is more responsive.  Of course that tends to slow 
Windows even more because programs can't share libraries and other components 
in Ram and Swap/Virtual-memory.  So, people figure out work-arounds such as 
going off to make a cuppa tea or deal with filing or double-clicking a load of 
times in frustration.  

The question is whether you really need quickstarter?  Roughly how long does it 
take to open LibreOffice?  It usually is quite slow, like the Gimp.  Are other 
programs also slow?  Is it possible to add some more Ram or get a newer cpu 
with more L1 or L2 cache?  Obviously DDR ram is too expensive and just not 
worth it but DDR2 is cheaper and DDR3 is worth buying at the moment.  Cpu can 
have more impact for less money though.  

Regards from
Tom :)  


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From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 6:17

Hi Miguel

Le 2012-05-20 21:04, MiguelAngel a écrit :

 
 There is an option to activate it:
 Menu/Tools/Options/LibreOffice/Memory - LibreOffice Quickstarter.
 Miguel Ángel.
 

Not on mine. Here is a screenshot[1]. I also tried this in admin mode with the 
same results.

Marc

[1] 
http://www.parentreprise.com/images/LibreOffice/LibreOffice3.5.3.2NoQuickStarter.png


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bug #48365 filed six weeks ago. No sign of acknowledgement.

2012-05-21 Thread John Hardy


Tom;


Re-creating a fresh new image using the newer branch was brilliant.  Sometimes older 
documents that have been around the block a few times get a lot of 
inexplicable weirdnesses.


I have only made a few drawings, and fairly simple ones at that. So 
starting over is not hard. However, it was a jolt to receive a batch of 
printed potting shells with the image scaled incorrectly. Fortunately, 
not enough to be unusable. I hope there aren't other users out there 
that have many drawings that will need to be done over.


OpenOffice had a problem (bug #114901) a couple of years ago where it 
started mishandling Adobe Type 1 fonts. The simpler solution was to 
convert them to TrueType fonts. I can't even find that bug now. And so 
it goes.


Even though Draw is a fairly simple program, it has the ability to 
expand or condense the spacing between characters, and pair kerning. I 
condensed the spacing with the 990 part of the drawing for a tighter 
look. DesignCAD 3D Max V21 cannot do that.


I will verify future drawings before submitting them for production.

John


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[libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

2012-05-21 Thread Marc Paré


Hi Tom,

Le 2012-05-21 05:01, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi :)
I don't think the QuickStarter is made for GnuLinux systems.  We get a bit 
spoiled.  If things don't almost instantly then we tend to be a bit impatient.

With Windows people get used to their systems slowing down quite a lot or being 
given a system that is desperately slow.  It gets so slow that a number of 
work-arounds have been built, such as keeping programs open all the time even 
if they are not being used.  This makes them appear to 'open' faster and gives 
the illusion that the system is more responsive.  Of course that tends to slow 
Windows even more because programs can't share libraries and other components 
in Ram and Swap/Virtual-memory.  So, people figure out work-arounds such as 
going off to make a cuppa tea or deal with filing or double-clicking a load of 
times in frustration.

The question is whether you really need quickstarter?  Roughly how long does it 
take to open LibreOffice?  It usually is quite slow, like the Gimp.  Are other 
programs also slow?  Is it possible to add some more Ram or get a newer cpu 
with more L1 or L2 cache?  Obviously DDR ram is too expensive and just not 
worth it but DDR2 is cheaper and DDR3 is worth buying at the moment.  Cpu can 
have more impact for less money though.

Regards from
Tom :)


Quite frankly, I didn't use QuickStarter when it was available for 
Linux, I preferred to reserve my RAM for other purposes. I usually kept 
my OOo or LibreOffice open all the time -- I used it for my teaching 
plans, lessons etc. I normally have FF, TBird, LibreOffice open. I am 
also spoiled in that I also have 2X19inch monitors which makes it easy 
to slide windows from one side to the other.


Cheers,

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

Hi :)
+1
Either open or shut.  There is no need to try to fool yourself into thinking 
something is not really open but have it open in a hidden way taking up space 
in Cache, Ram and Swap/Virtual-memory.  

One of my co-workers (on Windows) gets really frustrated waiting for things to 
open.  You can almost see steam rising.  If something does take too long for 
her then she shuts it quickly as soon as it's open and then tries opening it 
again.  I think slow opening gives the impression that it's going to be slow 
when typing things in and stuff.  

That could be another reason why people at work are avoiding using LO.  I think 
i have got to try to get the quickstarter onto all the Windows sides of the 
dual-boots.  It'd be nice to upgrade to the 3.5.4 at the same time :)

Regards from
Tom :)  


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From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 10:11

Hi Tom,

Le 2012-05-21 05:01, Tom Davies a écrit :
 Hi :)
 I don't think the QuickStarter is made for GnuLinux systems.  We get a bit 
 spoiled.  If things don't almost instantly then we tend to be a bit impatient.
 
 With Windows people get used to their systems slowing down quite a lot or 
 being given a system that is desperately slow.  It gets so slow that a number 
 of work-arounds have been built, such as keeping programs open all the time 
 even if they are not being used.  This makes them appear to 'open' faster and 
 gives the illusion that the system is more responsive.  Of course that tends 
 to slow Windows even more because programs can't share libraries and other 
 components in Ram and Swap/Virtual-memory.  So, people figure out 
 work-arounds such as going off to make a cuppa tea or deal with filing or 
 double-clicking a load of times in frustration.
 
 The question is whether you really need quickstarter?  Roughly how long does 
 it take to open LibreOffice?  It usually is quite slow, like the Gimp.  Are 
 other programs also slow?  Is it possible to add some more Ram or get a newer 
 cpu with more L1 or L2 cache?  Obviously DDR ram is too expensive and just 
 not worth it but DDR2 is cheaper and DDR3 is worth buying at the moment.  Cpu 
 can have more impact for less money though.
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)

Quite frankly, I didn't use QuickStarter when it was available for Linux, I 
preferred to reserve my RAM for other purposes. I usually kept my OOo or 
LibreOffice open all the time -- I used it for my teaching plans, lessons etc. 
I normally have FF, TBird, LibreOffice open. I am also spoiled in that I also 
have 2X19inch monitors which makes it easy to slide windows from one side to 
the other.

Cheers,

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

2012-05-21 Thread Steve Edmonds




On 2012-05-21 16:50, NoOp wrote:

On 05/17/2012 05:34 PM, minhsien0330 wrote:

Dear all:
I downloaded and installed  the deb packages from homepage of LibreOffice.
(http://www.libreoffice.org/download/)

After I opened Lobreoffice, I found nowhere to enable the QuickStarter.
(Tools→Options→LibreOffice→View→There is no QuickStarter option)

The devs did you a great favor  removed it.

My LO 3.4.6 starts from a file click in 3 seconds so is fast enough 
without the quick starter. I find LO very fast these days.

steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bug #48365 filed six weeks ago. No sign of acknowledgement.

Hi :)
Hmm, i hadn't thought about that.  I guess Draw is probably treated differently 
from word-processing.  

Typically office workers will open some old document and then just delete 
everything visible and then start writing a new document in there.  I have 
found documents with non-printing characters and even empty tables and stuff.  
One had been created on a Mac using something other than MS Office.  Most have 
a lot of 'personal' info such as name and company address that are clearly 
nothing to do with my workplace.  It wouldn't surprise me to find 'new' 
documents that could be traced back to the documents origins in Win95.  

I kinda imagined people would similarly open an old word-processed document and 
then Save As.. to get it as a odg and then delete a few things and add 
drawings.  I guess that with Draw people might do the hugely complicated 
File - New
instead.  

Regards from
Tom :)


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From: John Hardy johnha...@johnhardyco.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bug #48365 filed six weeks ago. No sign of 
acknowledgement.
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 10:07

Tom;

 Re-creating a fresh new image using the newer branch was brilliant.  
 Sometimes older documents that have been around the block a few times get a 
 lot of inexplicable weirdnesses.

I have only made a few drawings, and fairly simple ones at that. So starting 
over is not hard. However, it was a jolt to receive a batch of printed potting 
shells with the image scaled incorrectly. Fortunately, not enough to be 
unusable. I hope there aren't other users out there that have many drawings 
that will need to be done over.

OpenOffice had a problem (bug #114901) a couple of years ago where it started 
mishandling Adobe Type 1 fonts. The simpler solution was to convert them to 
TrueType fonts. I can't even find that bug now. And so it goes.

Even though Draw is a fairly simple program, it has the ability to expand or 
condense the spacing between characters, and pair kerning. I condensed the 
spacing with the 990 part of the drawing for a tighter look. DesignCAD 3D Max 
V21 cannot do that.

I will verify future drawings before submitting them for production.

John


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

Hi :)
Yes.  That is why i was wondering if the speed is really an issue and if so 
then maybe it's indicating there is a problem that 'needs' to be fixed.  On the 
other hand it could just be a low-spec machine like most of the ones here.   
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@pt-global.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 10:58



On 2012-05-21 16:50, NoOp wrote:
 On 05/17/2012 05:34 PM, minhsien0330 wrote:
 Dear all:
 I downloaded and installed  the deb packages from homepage of LibreOffice.
 (http://www.libreoffice.org/download/)

 After I opened Lobreoffice, I found nowhere to enable the QuickStarter.
 (Tools→Options→LibreOffice→View→There is no QuickStarter option)
 The devs did you a great favor  removed it.

My LO 3.4.6 starts from a file click in 3 seconds so is fast enough 
without the quick starter. I find LO very fast these days.
steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

Hi,

Am 21.05.2012 11:58, schrieb Steve Edmonds:

 My LO 3.4.6 starts from a file click in 3 seconds so is fast enough
 without the quick starter. I find LO very fast these days.

Yes, but... ;-)

Using QuickStarter not necessarily is a question of how long does it
take to start up the application.

From the users point of view, QuickStarter also is an alternative
(and by some users preferred) way of accessing LibrOffice in the
GUI, with nice shortcuts for opening documents or creating new
documents from templates.

Stefan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)


Stefan Weigel wrote:

Yes, but...;-)

Using QuickStarter not necessarily is a question of how long does it
take to start up the application.

 From the users point of view, QuickStarter also is an alternative
(and by some users preferred) way of accessing LibrOffice in the
GUI, with nice shortcuts for opening documents or creating new
documents from templates.


There's no reason why someone couldn't add it to the bar if so desired.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

Hi,

Am 21.05.2012 14:00, schrieb James Knott:

  From the users point of view, QuickStarter also is an alternative
 (and by some users preferred) way of accessing LibrOffice in the
 GUI, with nice shortcuts for opening documents or creating new
 documents from templates.

 There's no reason why someone couldn't add it to the bar if so desired.

How would I add a menu like this

  http://ipir.at/menu

to the panel, without activating QuickStarter?

Stefan


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[libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)


Am 21.05.2012 14:26, Stefan Weigel wrote:

Hi,

Am 21.05.2012 14:00, schrieb James Knott:


   From the users point of view, QuickStarter also is an alternative
(and by some users preferred) way of accessing LibrOffice in the
GUI, with nice shortcuts for opening documents or creating new
documents from templates.



There's no reason why someone couldn't add it to the bar if so desired.


How would I add a menu like this

   http://ipir.at/menu

to the panel, without activating QuickStarter?

Stefan




swriter
scalc
simpress
sdraw
sbase
smath
soffice .uno:NewDoc
soffice .uno:Open



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)


Stefan Weigel wrote:

Hi,

Am 21.05.2012 14:00, schrieb James Knott:


   From the users point of view, QuickStarter also is an alternative
(and by some users preferred) way of accessing LibrOffice in the
GUI, with nice shortcuts for opening documents or creating new
documents from templates.

There's no reason why someone couldn't add it to the bar if so desired.

How would I add a menu like this

   http://ipir.at/menu

to the panel, without activating QuickStarter?

Stefan




About all you could do is place the LO Suite icon there, and then choose 
what you want to do.  One thing that was available in OS/2, which I 
haven't seen in Linux was something called Drawer.  You'd place it on 
the bar and then add in the items you want.  When you clicked on the 
icon on the bar, the list of items would appear and you could then 
choose the one you wanted, as in the example you have.  One thing that 
could be done in KDE 3, but doesn't seem to be possible in KDE 4 (KDE 3 
mode) is copy a group from the main menu, so that all the items in that 
group would pop up when clicking on the icon on the bar.  With that, you 
could create an LibreOffice¹ section in the menu, fill it with the LO 
apps and then place the section on the bar.  This would result in a pop 
up list of LO apps.


1.  Since my birthday is in October, perhaps LibreOffice should be 
called LibraOffice.  ;-)





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)


Andreas Säger wrote:


swriter
scalc
simpress
sdraw
sbase
smath
soffice .uno:NewDoc
soffice .uno:Open


Regardless of the language, how is such a list created?  It could be 
done in KDE 3, but apparently not in KDE 4.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

Hi :)
I hadn't realised about the menu.  I guess it is a good reason for having the 
QuickStarter in GnuLinux.  However there are a lot more serious changes in the 
entire interfaces of most OSes in the last year or so.  

It would be good to be able to have the menu i guess
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 13:00

Stefan Weigel wrote:
 Yes, but...;-)

 Using QuickStarter not necessarily is a question of how long does it
 take to start up the application.

  From the users point of view, QuickStarter also is an alternative
 (and by some users preferred) way of accessing LibrOffice in the
 GUI, with nice shortcuts for opening documents or creating new
 documents from templates.

There's no reason why someone couldn't add it to the bar if so desired.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

Am 21.05.2012 14:37, schrieb Andreas Säger:

 How would I add a menu like this

http://ipir.at/menu

 to the panel, without activating QuickStarter?

 swriter
 scalc
 simpress
 sdraw
 sbase
 smath
 soffice .uno:NewDoc
 soffice .uno:Open

Ok yes. However, clicking the checkbox, available in my Ubuntu build
of LibreOffice is much easier and faster. ;-)

All that I am saying is: For some users the option QuickStarter is
a matter of convenience and does not relate to the question, how
fast the application starts up.

So, eliminating QuickStarter should have a good reason, which has
not been mentioned in this thread, so far, has it?

Stefan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

Hi :)
In Gnome and i think Xfce too you can right-click on existing menus and Edit 
the menu to Add new item but hopefully the desktop integration does that 
better with nice icons and stuff.  Still the Edit menu can re-arrange the 
menus quite a lot or put items in different main headings from the ones chosen 
by default.  

On most desktops you can right-click on a menu item and either Send to 
desktop or Add to panel or something like that.  I think Gnome has the draw 
thing too.  Whatever SliTaz uses seems to have the drawer.  Windows has a 
Quick launcher which has the 1st 3 icons on the panel/taskbar and remaining 
ones in a type of draw.  It's not the same as a QuickStarter because stuff is 
not left running in Ram.  It's called Quick because it saves you from having 
to dig around the menus.  With Windows i don't think you can directly add to 
panel but you can drag stuff off the desktop onto that weird QuickLauncher 
thing.  

So, i think you can probably add most of the functionality using pointclick 
even without digging around and editing panel scripts.  However the 
QuickStarter did that already and all in one go without much faffing around :)
Regards from
Tom :)



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From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 13:40

Stefan Weigel wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Am 21.05.2012 14:00, schrieb James Knott:
 
    From the users point of view, QuickStarter also is an alternative
 (and by some users preferred) way of accessing LibrOffice in the
 GUI, with nice shortcuts for opening documents or creating new
 documents from templates.
 There's no reason why someone couldn't add it to the bar if so desired.
 How would I add a menu like this
 
    http://ipir.at/menu
 
 to the panel, without activating QuickStarter?
 
 Stefan
 
 

About all you could do is place the LO Suite icon there, and then choose what 
you want to do.  One thing that was available in OS/2, which I haven't seen in 
Linux was something called Drawer.  You'd place it on the bar and then add in 
the items you want.  When you clicked on the icon on the bar, the list of items 
would appear and you could then choose the one you wanted, as in the example 
you have.  One thing that could be done in KDE 3, but doesn't seem to be 
possible in KDE 4 (KDE 3 mode) is copy a group from the main menu, so that all 
the items in that group would pop up when clicking on the icon on the bar.  
With that, you could create an LibreOffice¹ section in the menu, fill it with 
the LO apps and then place the section on the bar.  This would result in a pop 
up list of LO apps.

1.  Since my birthday is in October, perhaps LibreOffice should be called 
LibraOffice.  ;-)




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

Am 21.05.2012 14:40, schrieb James Knott:

 How would I add a menu like this

http://ipir.at/menu

 to the panel, without activating QuickStarter?

 Stefan

 About all you could do is place the LO Suite icon there, and then
 choose what you want to do.

Well, no. The LO suite icon will show me the StartCenter, but only
if LO is not running already. Otherwise it´s not so easy to navigate
for the Open From Template dialog, for example.

:-)

Sure, one can work around the missing QuickStarter, and I am
immediately willing to accept it, if there is at least one good
reason. But, I am not willing to accept arrogant statements like:

The devs did you a great favor  removed it.

without any substance.

;-)

Stefan

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[libreoffice-users] Support for 3.4.x line ?

2012-05-21 Thread georgmeyer

Dear all,

I use 3.4.6 right now, but there seems to be a security hole found. Since I
use the commercial Duden Korrektor software for advanced spell and grammar
checking, I want to follow a conservative update approach as long as
possible, since each new version might break the Korrektor software.

So will there be a security release for the 3.4 line or do I have to risk
updating to 3.5.3?

Thanks for any help

George

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

Tom Davies wrote:
In Gnome and i think Xfce too you can right-click on existing menus and Edit the menu to Add new item but hopefully the desktop integration does that better with nice icons and stuff. Still the Edit menu can re-arrange the menus quite a lot or put items in different main headings from the ones chosen by default.

On most desktops you can right-click on a menu item and either Send to desktop or Add to panel or something like that. I think Gnome has the draw thing too. Whatever SliTaz uses seems to have the drawer. Windows has a Quick launcher which has the 1st 3 icons on the panel/taskbar and remaining ones in a type of draw. It's not the same as a QuickStarter because stuff is not left running in Ram. It's called Quick because it saves you from having to dig around the menus. With Windows i don't think you can directly add to panel but you can drag stuff off the desktop onto that weird QuickLauncher thing.

So, i think you can probably add most of the functionality using pointclick
even without digging around and editing panel scripts. However the QuickStarter
did that already and all in one go without much faffing around:)

Is it possible to add a customizable menu to the panel in KDE 4? In KDE
3, at least you could create a section in the main menu and then copy
that section to the panel. All I can find in KDE 4 is the menu
launcher, which simply duplicates the one that's at the left end of the
panel.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)


Am 21.05.2012 14:55, Stefan Weigel wrote:

Am 21.05.2012 14:37, schrieb Andreas Säger:


How would I add a menu like this

http://ipir.at/menu

to the panel, without activating QuickStarter?



swriter
scalc
simpress
sdraw
sbase
smath
soffice .uno:NewDoc
soffice .uno:Open


Ok yes. However, clicking the checkbox, available in my Ubuntu build
of LibreOffice is much easier and faster. ;-)



With qs: One click on the button, another click on the menu item.
Without qs: One click on some soffice starter, another click on the 
start panel.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)


Am 21.05.2012 14:45, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I hadn't realised about the menu.  I guess it is a good reason for having the 
QuickStarter in GnuLinux.  However there are a lot more serious changes in the 
entire interfaces of most OSes in the last year or so.

It would be good to be able to have the menu i guess
Regards from
Tom :)



It's the first thing I use to disable. Instead I add one push button for 
everything (soffice.exe) to the task bar.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

2012-05-21 Thread minhsien0330

2012/5/21 Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@pt-global.com

 My LO 3.4.6 starts from a file click in 3 seconds so is fast enough
 without the quick starter. I find LO very fast these days.
 steve


Dear Steve Edmonds:
I also downloaded and installed LO 3.4.6, but it takes about 7 seconds when
I first time to start it.
Did you had modified any option?

My hardware information is below:
Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2300  @ 1.66GHz
Ram DDR2 2G
HDD: sata 7200rpm 320GB

Regards,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Support for 3.4.x line ?

2012-05-21 Thread Jay Lozier

George,

On 05/21/2012 09:43 AM, georgmeyer wrote:
 Dear all,

 I use 3.4.6 right now, but there seems to be a security hole found. Since I
 use the commercial Duden Korrektor software for advanced spell and grammar
 checking, I want to follow a conservative update approach as long as
 possible, since each new version might break the Korrektor software.

 So will there be a security release for the 3.4 line or do I have to risk
 updating to 3.5.3?

 Thanks for any help

 George

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I understand that support including bug fixes for each version is 1 year
from the release date of the latest/last version. So 3.4.6 is still
being supported.

Please file bug report for what you found at
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

Hi :)
I really do not know anything about KDE at all.  There were some earlier posts 
about KDE3 but not about KDE4.  Hopefully someone else might have ideas
Apols and regards from
Tom :)



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From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 14:49

Tom Davies wrote:
 In Gnome and i think Xfce too you can right-click on existing menus and 
 Edit the menu to Add new item but hopefully the desktop integration does 
 that better with nice icons and stuff.  Still the Edit menu can re-arrange 
 the menus quite a lot or put items in different main headings from the ones 
 chosen by default. 
 On most desktops you can right-click on a menu item and either Send to 
 desktop or Add to panel or something like that.  I think Gnome has the 
 draw thing too.  Whatever SliTaz uses seems to have the drawer.  Windows has 
 a Quick launcher which has the 1st 3 icons on the panel/taskbar and 
 remaining ones in a type of draw.  It's not the same as a QuickStarter 
 because stuff is not left running in Ram.  It's called Quick because it 
 saves you from having to dig around the menus.  With Windows i don't think 
 you can directly add to panel but you can drag stuff off the desktop onto 
 that weird QuickLauncher thing. 
 So, i think you can probably add most of the functionality using pointclick 
 even without digging around and editing panel scripts.  However the 
 QuickStarter did that already and all in one go without much faffing around:)

Is it possible to add a customizable menu to the panel in KDE 4?  In KDE 3, at 
least you could create a section in the main menu and then copy that section to 
the panel.  All I can find in KDE 4 is the menu launcher, which simply 
duplicates the one that's at the left end of the panel.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

2012-05-21 Thread Gabriel Risterucci

2012/5/21 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 I really do not know anything about KDE at all.  There were some earlier
 posts about KDE3 but not about KDE4.  Hopefully someone else might have
 ideas
 Apols and regards from
 Tom :)


At least on KDE 4.6.5, I can right-click on an item group in the
applications menu, and add them to the panel. When clicking this new icon,
it open a popup menu with the item in it. If you create a LibreOffice group
with all the shortcuts, you can mimic the old quickstart.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

2012-05-21 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker


On 20/05/12 22:53, Marc Paré wrote:
I looked for it on my MageiaLinux and it doesn't look like it is 
there. Maybe a dev could chime in and let us know why the QuickStart 
is not on the Linux version of LibreOffice?




It's certainly here in the included version (3.5.3.2) in Ubuntu 12.04

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)


Gabriel Risterucci wrote:

2012/5/21 Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk


Hi :)
I really do not know anything about KDE at all.  There were some earlier
posts about KDE3 but not about KDE4.  Hopefully someone else might have
ideas
Apols and regards from
Tom :)



At least on KDE 4.6.5, I can right-click on an item group in the
applications menu, and add them to the panel. When clicking this new icon,
it open a popup menu with the item in it. If you create a LibreOffice group
with all the shortcuts, you can mimic the old quickstart.



I have tried just that in KDE 4 in KDE 3 mode.  It creates a Konqueror 
icon that opens a folder that does not contain what the sub-menu does.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Connecting libreoffice calc to existing sqlite database file

2012-05-21 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan

On Sun, 2012-05-20 at 01:48 +0200, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
 Sorry about pointing to another thread, but you may find this useful.
 Poster 
 there managed to connect OpenOffice with sqlite file. I believe the
 same should 
 work for LO.
 Link:
 http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40t=9905
 
 As far as I can tell, you will need (aside from LO, of course)
 unixodbc and 
 libsqliteodbc packages. At least that's how they are called in Debian;
 I don't 
 know about Fedora, but perhaps they have similar names. 
Thanks very much for the pointer.  I attempted to follow the
instructions, installing the SQLite ODBC Driver, but I have installation
problems. (If you configure wrong, an attempt to access a database will
lock up your system so badly that you need to reboot).  

My particular system runs KDE, which requires iodbc for many
applications, so that is what I am using for the database interface.
Iodbc has two kinds of configuration files in two places, namely:
/etc/odbc.ini
/etc/odbcinst.ini
~/.odbc.ini
~/.odbcinst.ini  (maybe not used)
The iodbc web site has info about ~/.odbc.ini, and by implication
about /etc/odbc.ini, which contains (I believe) default info; but it has
nothing about /etc/odbcinst.ini.  Can someone enlighten me about the
relation about these files and what they are used for?

jon


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [Evolution] Evolution cameo in Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters



--- On Mon, 21/5/12, Matthew Barnes mbar...@redhat.com wrote:

From: Matthew Barnes mbar...@redhat.com
Subject: [Evolution] Evolution cameo in Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters
To: evolution-l...@gnome.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 16:34

Got a little kick out of this over the weekend, just thought I'd share.

Apparently someone spotted Ubuntu's Unity desktop in some Japanese Power
Rangers type TV show and posted a YouTube clip.

But Unity isn't the only cameo.  Pause the video at 0:45 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X64rQqqsGPM

Matthew Barnes


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

Hi :)
Errr, the option is not labelled anything really obvious such as 
QuickStarter.  On one of mine (well 'works') it was called something like 
Load LibreOffice at start-up.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 16:28

Gabriel Risterucci wrote:
 2012/5/21 Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 I really do not know anything about KDE at all.  There were some earlier
 posts about KDE3 but not about KDE4.  Hopefully someone else might have
 ideas
 Apols and regards from
 Tom :)


 At least on KDE 4.6.5, I can right-click on an item group in the
 applications menu, and add them to the panel. When clicking this new icon,
 it open a popup menu with the item in it. If you create a LibreOffice group
 with all the shortcuts, you can mimic the old quickstart.


I have tried just that in KDE 4 in KDE 3 mode.  It creates a Konqueror 
icon that opens a folder that does not contain what the sub-menu does.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

2012-05-21 Thread Steve Edmonds




On 2012-05-22 02:34, minhsien0330 wrote:

2012/5/21 Steve Edmondssteve.edmo...@pt-global.com


My LO 3.4.6 starts from a file click in 3 seconds so is fast enough
without the quick starter. I find LO very fast these days.
steve



Dear Steve Edmonds:
I also downloaded and installed LO 3.4.6, but it takes about 7 seconds when
I first time to start it.
Did you had modified any option?

My hardware information is below:
Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2300  @ 1.66GHz
Ram DDR2 2G
HDD: sata 7200rpm 320GB

Regards,

Hi. I have  low power i5-2500T CPU @ 2.30GHz, 8 GB  ram. I haven't 
turned my PC off for months and are not sure if it takes longer the 
first time to start LO but now  is quick.

steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

Hi :)
Over 1Gb and 1GHz sounds like waaay more than enough.  Even if you are running 
Ubuntu that should be opening fine.  Maybe 10-15 seconds?  On this machine it 
takes just under 10 seconds and it's very similar to your machine by the sounds 
of it.  Mine is over 2GHz but has low cache.  

GnuLinux with 8Gb ram!!?!?  Lol, why!?!!  Was it made for Windows perchance?  
I guess that much would be good for playing around with virtual machines.  You 
could have a whole swarm of them in there ;) lol.  Actually i do think i could 
do with either switching distros or buying more Ram for exactly that, perhaps 
both.    
Regards from
Tom :)




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From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@pt-global.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 19:00



On 2012-05-22 02:34, minhsien0330 wrote:
 2012/5/21 Steve Edmondssteve.edmo...@pt-global.com

 My LO 3.4.6 starts from a file click in 3 seconds so is fast enough
 without the quick starter. I find LO very fast these days.
 steve


 Dear Steve Edmonds:
 I also downloaded and installed LO 3.4.6, but it takes about 7 seconds when
 I first time to start it.
 Did you had modified any option?

 My hardware information is below:
 Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2300  @ 1.66GHz
 Ram DDR2 2G
 HDD: sata 7200rpm 320GB

 Regards,

Hi. I have  low power i5-2500T CPU @ 2.30GHz, 8 GB  ram. I haven't 
turned my PC off for months and are not sure if it takes longer the 
first time to start LO but now  is quick.
steve

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[libreoffice-users] Some newbie questions (Impress)

2012-05-21 Thread qetu

Hi everyone, I am making presentation to school and I have some problems. I
want to put many text boxes along equal vertical line. Also I use template
from internet and there were dots: http://i46.tinypic.com/2lcbmzm.png So how
can I remove them from only one slide? Sorry for my English :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Some newbie questions (Impress)

2012-05-21 Thread Mirosław Zalewski

(Wiadomość po polsku jest niżej).
On 21/05/2012 at 21:19, qetu justq...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone, I am making presentation to school and I have some problems. I
 want to put many text boxes along equal vertical line. Also I use template
 from internet and there were dots: http://i46.tinypic.com/2lcbmzm.png So
 how can I remove them from only one slide?

Perhaps these dots are in master slide. Go to View → Master → Slide Master.
You will see that all your slides have disappeared. Don't panic. You have 
enabled slide master view, which let's you modify templates for styles. You 
want to add new template (the same way as you add new slides) and copy all 
graphics from existing one into new one. You have to do it one-by-one though, 
as ctrl+a and ctrl+c will not work, unfortunately. In your new template you 
don't want these dots, so don't copy them. When you finish, click View → 
Normal. Then click on that one slide with right mouse button and select Slide 
Design - in new window you will select master slide without dots.

That's the proper way to do these things. In fact, you can simply create new 
rectangle shape without lines and with color of your slide background and 
cover these dots with that shape - dots will still be here, but they won't be 
visible.

Also please note that you are free to send your message in few languages (as I 
did), but basic language of this mailing list is English and you are required 
to use it. This way if someone from other country will have similar question, 
he or she may find that thread and understand it.

Message in Polish follows.
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Zapewne te kropki pochodzą z wzorca slajdu. Kliknij Widok → Wzorzec → Wzorzec 
slajdu. Twoje dotychczasowe slajdy znikną, ale nie przejmuj się tym. Jesteś 
teraz w widoku wzorca slajdów (nazwa chyba mówi sama za siebie?). Dodaj nowy 
wzorzec (tak samo jak dodaje się nowe slajdy) i przekopiuj na niego wszystkie 
grafiki z poprzedniego wzorca. Niestety ctrl+a, ctrl+c nie zadziała, musisz 
kopiować je pojedynczo. Oczywiście powinieneś pominąć te kropki, których nie 
chcesz. Jak już skończysz, kliknij Widok → Normalne, wybierz slajd na którym 
nie chcesz kropek, kliknij na niego prawym przyciskiem myszy i wybierz 
„Projekt slajdu”. W nowym okienku wybierz projekt bez kropek.

To „poprawny” sposób żeby osiągnąć ten efekt. W rzeczywistości możesz do 
slajdu dodać nowy element z menu kształtów podstawowych. Ustaw, żeby nie miał 
żadnych linii i żeby jego kolor był taki sam jak kolor tła slajdu. Następnie 
przykryj nim te kropki. One nadal tam będą, ale przykryte, a przez to 
niewidoczne.

Pozwoliłem sobie napisać tę wiadomość w dwóch językach, ale miej na uwadze, że 
podstawowym językiem na tej grupie jest angielski. Jeżeli więc będziesz 
odpowiadał, koniecznie napisz swoją wiadomość po angielsku, ewentualnie 
dodając polskie tłumaczenie. Dzięki temu jeżeli ktokolwiek na świecie będzie 
miał podobne pytanie, będzie mógł znaleźć ten wątek i zrozumieć, co jest w nim 
napisane.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Some newbie questions (Impress)

2012-05-21 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi getu,

qetu schrieb:

Hi everyone, I am making presentation to school and I have some problems. I
want to put many text boxes along equal vertical line. Also I use template
from internet and there were dots: http://i46.tinypic.com/2lcbmzm.png So how
can I remove them from only one slide? Sorry for my English :)


There are several ways to do this:
1.
Mark all text boxes together. Kontextmenu (=right click or special key) 
- Alignment  left


2.
Show vertical ruler, open toolbar 'Options', enable 'snap to snap lines'.
Put mouse on the vertical ruler and drag to the slide. You get a snap 
line. Move the text boxes one by on to the snap line and let it 'snap'. 
Snapping becomes more obvious, if you set the snap range to 20pixel in 
Tools  Options  LO Impress  grid


3.
Use dialog 'Position and Size' (Kontextmenu, Format menu or F4) and set 
X position to an identical value for all text boxes.


Kind regards
Regina


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[libreoffice-users] File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7

I previously installed OpenOffice on my computer and recently 
LibreOffice.  I have also installed the various free Microsoft viewers.  
One thing I've noticed is that I can't have both LO and OO associated 
with the various file types.  Please note that I'm just talking about 
association, not default association, so that when I right click on a 
file I can chose from among LO, OO or the Microsoft viewer.  At the 
moment, my choices are just LO and the viewer.  If I want to use 
OpenOffice, I have to open the app first and then the file.


Any way around this?

tnx jk


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RE: [libreoffice-users] File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7

2012-05-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

Here's the tip that I provided over on ooo-users.  My system is busy right now 
so I can't check to see how well it works with AOO 3.4.0 also:

You can try to add AOO associations manually, but it might not be effective.

The problem is that LibreOffice, OpenOffice.org, and Apache OpenOffice all use 
the same (old Star Office) names for the individual application programs.  Even 
if you succeed in having multiple swriter.exe associations, for example, you 
may have trouble telling them apart [;).

I think you already know how to do this, by using the Open With ... 
context-menu and take the Choose Default Program option.  You'll have to find 
the installed files and select them.  Perhaps even make it the default at 
first, although you can select the program and remove the check mark on Always 
use the selected program ... .  

Thereafter, they should all be offered in the Open With ... without having to 
be added.  But I suspect this is where you might be frustrated.  (This is how I 
add WinZip to all of the ODF and OOXML extension names so I can simplify 
document-forensic work.) 

 - Dennis

PS: I just got this working for .odds on a Vista configuration that has 
OpenOffice 3.3.0, Symphony 3.0.1, and LibreOffice 3.4.3 installed.  

PPS: Installing Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 seems to steal the default file 
associations, no matter who has them.  Because of that I tend not to keep it 
around on any configurations where I want to use other ODF-supporting programs. 
 (When uninstalled, AOO 3.4.0 leaves no associations behind.)  I haven't tried 
the above procedure to get the other associations back.  That's out of pique.  
Let me know if it works for you.

-Original Message-
From: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 13:13
To: LibreOffice
Subject: [libreoffice-users] File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on 
Windows 7

I previously installed OpenOffice on my computer and recently 
LibreOffice.  I have also installed the various free Microsoft viewers.  
One thing I've noticed is that I can't have both LO and OO associated 
with the various file types.  Please note that I'm just talking about 
association, not default association, so that when I right click on a 
file I can chose from among LO, OO or the Microsoft viewer.  At the 
moment, my choices are just LO and the viewer.  If I want to use 
OpenOffice, I have to open the app first and then the file.

Any way around this?

tnx jk


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Some newbie questions (Impress)

Hi :)
The Impress Guide has just been completed today
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Impress_Guide
It's done for 3.5.x branch and only half done for 3.4.x but there is not much 
point in going backwards especially as 3.4.x is eol already.  

Errr, that could have been yday depending on whereabouts in the world you are 
as it's almost tomorrow here too.  Unless you are reading this tomorrow and i 
am writing this yday.  Timezones are great :)
Regards from
Tom :)



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From: Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Some newbie questions (Impress)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 21:12

Hi getu,

qetu schrieb:
 Hi everyone, I am making presentation to school and I have some problems. I
 want to put many text boxes along equal vertical line. Also I use template
 from internet and there were dots: http://i46.tinypic.com/2lcbmzm.png So how
 can I remove them from only one slide? Sorry for my English :)

There are several ways to do this:
1.
Mark all text boxes together. Kontextmenu (=right click or special key) - 
Alignment  left

2.
Show vertical ruler, open toolbar 'Options', enable 'snap to snap lines'.
Put mouse on the vertical ruler and drag to the slide. You get a snap line. 
Move the text boxes one by on to the snap line and let it 'snap'. Snapping 
becomes more obvious, if you set the snap range to 20pixel in Tools  Options  
LO Impress  grid

3.
Use dialog 'Position and Size' (Kontextmenu, Format menu or F4) and set X 
position to an identical value for all text boxes.

Kind regards
Regina


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[libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7

Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

You can try to add AOO associations manually, but it might not be effective.

The problem is that LibreOffice, OpenOffice.org, and Apache OpenOffice all use the
same (old Star Office) names for the individual application programs. Even if you
succeed in having multiple swriter.exe associations, for example, you may have
trouble telling them apart [;).

I think you already know how to do this, by using the Open With ... context-menu and take the
Choose Default Program option. You'll have to find the installed files and select
them. Perhaps even make it the default at first, although you can select the program and remove
the check mark on Always use the selected program ... .

Thereafter, they should all be offered in the Open With ... without having to
be added. But I suspect this is where you might be frustrated. (This is how I
add WinZip to all of the ODF and OOXML extension names so I can simplify
document-forensic work.)

Got it. You gave me the idea. Instead of going into the OpenOffice
folder and selecting, for example, swriter, I selected OpenOffice and it
now appears as a choice when I right click. It also now possible to
choose any of the three to be the default app.

tnx jk

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)

2012-05-21 Thread Steve Edmonds


Engineering CAD, 3D modelling and image manipulation.

On 2012-05-22 06:55, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Over 1Gb and 1GHz sounds like waaay more than enough.  Even if you are running Ubuntu that should be opening fine.  Maybe 10-15 seconds?  On this machine it takes just under 10 seconds and it's very similar to your machine by the sounds of it.  Mine is over 2GHz but has low cache. 

GnuLinux with 8Gb ram!!?!?  Lol, why!?!!  Was it made for Windows perchance?  I guess that much would be good for playing around with virtual machines.  You could have a whole swarm of them in there ;) lol.  Actually i do think i could do with either switching distros or buying more Ram for exactly that, perhaps both.   
Regards from

Tom :)




--- On Mon, 21/5/12, Steve Edmondssteve.edmo...@pt-global.com  wrote:

From: Steve Edmondssteve.edmo...@pt-global.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No QuickStarter? (Linux)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 19:00



On 2012-05-22 02:34, minhsien0330 wrote:

2012/5/21 Steve Edmondssteve.edmo...@pt-global.com


My LO 3.4.6 starts from a file click in 3 seconds so is fast enough
without the quick starter. I find LO very fast these days.
steve



Dear Steve Edmonds:
I also downloaded and installed LO 3.4.6, but it takes about 7 seconds when
I first time to start it.
Did you had modified any option?

My hardware information is below:
Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2300  @ 1.66GHz
Ram DDR2 2G
HDD: sata 7200rpm 320GB

Regards,


Hi. I have  low power i5-2500T CPU @ 2.30GHz, 8 GB  ram. I haven't
turned my PC off for months and are not sure if it takes longer the
first time to start LO but now  is quick.
steve



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7


James Knott wrote:

Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
You can try to add AOO associations manually, but it might not be 
effective.


The problem is that LibreOffice, OpenOffice.org, and Apache 
OpenOffice all use the same (old Star Office) names for the 
individual application programs.  Even if you succeed in having 
multiple swriter.exe associations, for example, you may have trouble 
telling them apart [;).


I think you already know how to do this, by using the Open With ... 
context-menu and take the Choose Default Program option.  You'll 
have to find the installed files and select them.  Perhaps even make 
it the default at first, although you can select the program and 
remove the check mark on Always use the selected program ... .


Thereafter, they should all be offered in the Open With ... without 
having to be added.  But I suspect this is where you might be 
frustrated.  (This is how I add WinZip to all of the ODF and OOXML 
extension names so I can simplify document-forensic work.)


Got it.  You gave me the idea.  Instead of going into the OpenOffice 
folder and selecting, for example, swriter, I selected OpenOffice and 
it now appears as a choice when I right click.  It also now possible 
to choose any of the three to be the default app.


tnx jk




I have found another way.  Change the OpenOffice files to owriter etc.  
This way, OpenOffice Writer is displayed, instead of just OpenOffice.org 
3.4, when right clicking.  Perhaps creating a shortcut there may work too.



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7

2012-05-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

What I discovered in the Vista VM was that the icons are different between 
LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org scalc and they appear in the Open With ... 
dialog.  There is no confusion there as a result.  Lotus Symphony uses a 
different file name so there is no problem there.

I don't know whether the choose program dialog will allow a shortcut to be 
used.  That's an interesting idea though.  

-Original Message-
From: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 14:25
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and 
OpenOffice on Windows 7

James Knott wrote:
 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
[ ... ]
 I think you already know how to do this, by using the Open With ... 
 context-menu and take the Choose Default Program option.  You'll 
 have to find the installed files and select them.  Perhaps even make 
 it the default at first, although you can select the program and 
 remove the check mark on Always use the selected program ... .

 Thereafter, they should all be offered in the Open With ... without 
 having to be added.  But I suspect this is where you might be 
 frustrated.  (This is how I add WinZip to all of the ODF and OOXML 
 extension names so I can simplify document-forensic work.)

 Got it.  You gave me the idea.  Instead of going into the OpenOffice 
 folder and selecting, for example, swriter, I selected OpenOffice and 
 it now appears as a choice when I right click.  It also now possible 
 to choose any of the three to be the default app.

 tnx jk



I have found another way.  Change the OpenOffice files to owriter etc.  
This way, OpenOffice Writer is displayed, instead of just OpenOffice.org 
3.4, when right clicking.  Perhaps creating a shortcut there may work too.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Connecting libreoffice calc to existing sqlite database file

2012-05-21 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan

On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 09:34 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 On Sun, 2012-05-20 at 01:48 +0200, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
  Sorry about pointing to another thread, but you may find this useful.
  Poster there managed to connect OpenOffice with sqlite file. I believe the
  same should work for LO.
  Link:
  http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40t=9905
  
  As far as I can tell, you will need (aside from LO, of course) unixodbc and 
  libsqliteodbc packages. At least that's how they are called in Debian;
  I don't know about Fedora, but perhaps they have similar names. 

 Thanks very much for the pointer.  I attempted to follow the
 instructions, installing the SQLite ODBC Driver, but I have installation
 problems.

I have been able to establish a connection between libreOffice base and
my database, using sqliteodbc and unixODBC (which are the names on
Fedora).  I have not been able to use libiodbc, which serves the same
function as unixODBC and is the default driver on KDE, probably because
of documentation problems; libiodbc runs fine on all the KDE
applications that require it, but not for libreOffece and me.

But the database doesn't look like what I had expected it to: sqlite
databases contain within themselves the names and data types of all the
entries, but when libreOffice opens the database, there is no such data
visible.  Am I missing something.  A dump of the database using 
$ sqlite3 archive.sdb .dump looks fine.  Is this what I should expect,
or is something wrong, or am I missing something?

Thanks - jon



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Connecting libreoffice calc to existing sqlite database file


Am 21.05.2012 23:40, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:


blah



Ask your question on a SQLite forum with some _technical_ information 
about your operating system, SQLite version of the creating application, 
driver version, configuration file, connection URL of the client (Base 
menu:EditDatabaseProperties).



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Support for 3.4.x line ?

Hi :)
Ok, sorry about the delay.  This guide should help you install a 2nd version of 
LibreOffice alongside the one you depend on.  
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

It's generally better to install into a virtual machine or on a spare machine, 
perhaps your old one or something?
Regards from
Tom :) 


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From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Support for 3.4.x line ?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 16:16

Hi :)
You can test-drive a newer release without being forced to move to it 
permanently.  It's not easy and i will have to try to dig out a link later.  I 
would wait for the x.x.4 before upgrading as branches seem to suddenly become a 
lot more stable around then.  

Having said that it is always good to test-drive the latest release if you can, 
just to see if it does lookfeel better or performs better for you but make 
sure it's done in a way that avoids it interacting with the version you rely 
on!  Obviously if you have restrictions on your download then it might be best 
to avoid downloading each one.  Also it's probably best to test on just one or 
2 machines rather than rolling it out to all machines, especially ones you rely 
on.  
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Mon, 21/5/12, Jay Lozier
 jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Support for 3.4.x line ?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 21 May, 2012, 15:37

George,

On 05/21/2012 09:43 AM, georgmeyer wrote:
 Dear all,

 I use 3.4.6 right now, but there seems to be a security hole found. Since I
 use the commercial Duden Korrektor software for advanced spell and grammar
 checking, I want to follow a conservative update approach as long as
 possible, since each new version might break the Korrektor software.

 So will there be a security release for the 3.4 line or do I have to risk
 updating to 3.5.3?

 Thanks for any help

 George


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I understand that support including bug fixes for each version is 1 year
from the release date of the latest/last version. So 3.4.6 is still
being supported.

Please file bug report for what you found at
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7

2012-05-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

@James,

I see.  It happens that Windows XP will not let you assign a different program 
of the same name to be associated with the same file extension via Open With 
... .  When you go find the second program, it behaves as if you already have 
it in the list and won't add another to the list.

This is *not* the case for Windows Vista (and therefore Windows 7 and Windows 
8, I surmise).  Those will provide all of the associations without trickery.

To work around the Windows XP limitation, your trick of using soffice.exe 
instead of swriter.exe, scalc.exe, etc., works great.  Until there are more 
than two that you want to hook up to the same extension [;).

Changing the program-file names probably works so long as you don't change 
soffice.bin.   I wouldn't do that except as a last resort.  (It will mess up 
program updates and the uninstaller, for example.)

I have a set of screen captures for walking through this on Windows XP.  I'll 
put them in some mutually useful place.

 - Dennis

PS: I confirmed this on a Windows XP where the install of Apache OpenOffice 
3.4.0 stomped on the associations of LibreOffice 3.5.2.2.  

PPS: Unfortunately, something else was stomped on so sometimes the programs get 
blocked and there are multiple soffice.bin and soffice.exe instances running, 
but nothing useful happens.  I am not sure that is repeatable.  I'm going to 
try installing LibreOffice 3.5 *after* the AOO 3.4.0 to see if that is better.  
I suspect it might be.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 14:39
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and 
OpenOffice on Windows 7

What I discovered in the Vista VM was that the icons are different between 
LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org scalc and they appear in the Open With ... 
dialog.  There is no confusion there as a result.  Lotus Symphony uses a 
different file name so there is no problem there.

I don't know whether the choose program dialog will allow a shortcut to be 
used.  That's an interesting idea though.  

-Original Message-
From: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 14:25
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and 
OpenOffice on Windows 7

James Knott wrote:
 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
[ ... ]
 I think you already know how to do this, by using the Open With ... 
 context-menu and take the Choose Default Program option.  You'll 
 have to find the installed files and select them.  Perhaps even make 
 it the default at first, although you can select the program and 
 remove the check mark on Always use the selected program ... .

 Thereafter, they should all be offered in the Open With ... without 
 having to be added.  But I suspect this is where you might be 
 frustrated.  (This is how I add WinZip to all of the ODF and OOXML 
 extension names so I can simplify document-forensic work.)

 Got it.  You gave me the idea.  Instead of going into the OpenOffice 
 folder and selecting, for example, swriter, I selected OpenOffice and 
 it now appears as a choice when I right click.  It also now possible 
 to choose any of the three to be the default app.

 tnx jk



I have found another way.  Change the OpenOffice files to owriter etc.  
This way, OpenOffice Writer is displayed, instead of just OpenOffice.org 
3.4, when right clicking.  Perhaps creating a shortcut there may work too.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7