Re: [libreoffice-users] Draw printing of large plans
Agreed, I did not find it in the other components of LO, only in Draw. And agreed on the printer. You could post this as a feature add/bug report, to be included in the next release. Regards Andrew Brown On 25/07/2013 12:44 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Why is this option not part of the rest of the modules? I create large documents in Writer all the time. Not every one will have the wide format printers to use for their Writer docs. On 07/24/2013 04:31 PM, Andrew Brown wrote: Ah! you are correct, I've just found it in LO Draw, under Ubuntu Raring too. So I am learning more personally from these emails. Regards Andrew Brown On 24/07/2013 10:17 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi, Kracked_P_P---webmaster schrieb: On 07/24/2013 08:47 AM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi John, John R. Sowden schrieb: 4) Can I print multiple parts of the drawing onto 8.5 x 11.0 paper, then tape them together for a preliminary draft? (I know I can do the taping part, its the printing that is an issue :) )? You can use the option Distribute on multiple sheets of paper in the second tab of the printing dialog. The printer needs no special setting. 5) And , finally, Does the PDF format fit into this issue at all? Well I just opened a large format document in Writer and checked every printer that wasa letter/legal printer and I saw NO option like listed above. I use Ubuntu 64-bit with 4.0.4. So, it does not work that wayfor my system. I think one of my Windows drivers has the ability, but it is not in my Ubuntu system. It is no option of the printer, but of the LibreOffice printing dialog. File Print Tab LibreOffice Draw Section Size Option Distribute on multiple sheets of paper You can traverse the preview to see, how the large drawing is cut into sheets. Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with two issue I am finding in LO
Hi Andrew, I agree regarding the calc issue. I tried this on 4.0.4.2 under Fedora and 4.0.0.3 portable under Windows. Neither allow you to right click on the input line. As you noted, CTRL-C works. So, I cranked up LO3.6.2.2 under XP. Same. The only thing I noticed is that you can right click on the cell itself. No need to go up to the input line. I wonder if this is deemed to be sufficient. Cheers On 07/24/2013 06:26 PM, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Everyone Well this is now my turn to ask for some help, and to see if any of you have or are experiencing these issues. This applies to both my Windows version, and Ubuntu Raring versions of LO, so a common occurrence. And it has persisted since I migrated over to LO. Your responses will assist me before I send this as a bug report, missing feature. In Calc, I cannot copy and paste any data content out of the input line at the top i.e. right click the mouse and copy using the now non existent drop down menu. This goes for an existing spreadsheet or creating a new one. In the past, not sure if it was early versions of LO Calc, or OOo Calc, but I could do this, no problems. I copy from a lot of pricelists and other similiar type spreadsheets, and paste into order sheets or directly into emails for my business, and I find now the only workaround is to highlight the content and Ctrl c to copy it, or using the menu Edit. This needs to be looked at and added as a feature, or returned as a feature. MS Office Excel has always allowed this as well. This next one is in Writer, and many of my clients have this issue as well, and I feel this is a major failure or feature exclusion. Writer cannot handle the copy and paste of multiple image files, such as photos etc, and then automatically space them one below the other. Many of my clients are in the field as motor vehicle assessors and take multiple pictures of vehicle repairs (up to about twenty per vehicle), process them to reduce their physical size, then paste them into a word processor and compile into a PDF before emailing to the insurance houses. MS Office can do this and has always done this with no issues whatsoever, but LO Writer simply dumps the images one on top of the other, with a lot of unnecessary work to have to drag and place each image in order below the previous one. And this is not consistent, sometimes Writer fails with a lot of photos (noticeably more than five). This lack of feature is now forcing many of my customers to return to MSO, and I feel it needs to be addressed and fixed. Regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
Hello, I need help with LibreOffice Writer - Tools - Outline Numbering. As long as I know Tools - Outline Numbering in LibreOffice Writer is somehow equivalent to defining new Multilevel list in MS Office Word 2010. But I need some features in formating of each level in Outline Numbering, which is not available in LibreOffice Writer but is available in MS Word - Multilevel list. I need some more professional formatting of each level because I'm writing my thesis based on a template provided by my university and I have to obey that template. In that template (which is a .doc file) format of each level is defined in a particular way that can be shown correctly in MS Word, but not in LibreOffice. I need to be able to customize Number format of each level similar to MS Word like what you can see here: http://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/word-2007-taming-multilevel-list-numbering/ If someone is professional in this issue please help me. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
Let me show you what exact Outline Numbering I want using the example below: Level Example(desired output) Associated Paragraph Style 1Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 3 3.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9-Heading 3 5(b)none 6 Fig (3.12)Fig Caption 7 (3.27) Formula 8 Table (3.20)Table Caption As you can see in the example above the '3' in Fig (3.12), (3.27) and Table (3.20) is the chapter number at level 1. But in Writer-Tools-Outline_Numbering the first digit is not '3' (level1 number) but the first digit in level 'n' with Show sublevels = 2 will be number of level 'n-1'. Therefor also in the .doc template everything is stored correctly using MS Word, but when I open it with LO Writer I see Outline Numberings as below: Level Example(Writer result) Associated Paragraph Style 1Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 3 3.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9-Heading 3 5(b)none 6 Fig (b.12)Fig Caption 7 (12.27) Formula 8 Table (27.20) Table Caption How can I achieve my desired output I mentioned in first example using LO Writer? On 07/25/2013 12:09 PM, Sina Momken wrote: Hello, I need help with LibreOffice Writer - Tools - Outline Numbering. As long as I know Tools - Outline Numbering in LibreOffice Writer is somehow equivalent to defining new Multilevel list in MS Office Word 2010. But I need some features in formating of each level in Outline Numbering, which is not available in LibreOffice Writer but is available in MS Word - Multilevel list. I need some more professional formatting of each level because I'm writing my thesis based on a template provided by my university and I have to obey that template. In that template (which is a .doc file) format of each level is defined in a particular way that can be shown correctly in MS Word, but not in LibreOffice. I need to be able to customize Number format of each level similar to MS Word like what you can see here: http://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/word-2007-taming-multilevel-list-numbering/ If someone is professional in this issue please help me. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
Hi :) Sorry! I couldn't find the section in the guides but you might find this helpful https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide on a side issue you might find Chapter 12 interesting Creating Tables of Contents, Indexes, and Bibliographies. There is a plug-in/add-on/Extension that might help with that, i think Zotero? http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_installation How rigid is the template? Can you create a fresh new Odt document in LibreOffice and follow the guidelines of the template without having to copypaste anything from their template into your new document? If there are bits you need to copy can you use paste-special to paste as unformatted text? Ctrl Shift v rather than just Ctrl v A fresh start means you neatly avoid getting stuck with lots of legacy formatting codes that might spring surprises on you randomly in the future. It gives you more control over what you do. If it is rigid and you can't just start afresh then it might be worth asking the University if they could give you an OpenDocument Format (ODF, specifically Odt) version rather than the proprietary one. If not then perhaps be insolent and ask them to buy and give you the product, that is made by a foreign company, in order to be able to use their template. Perhaps push further and ask them to supply it in a non-American 'local' language. Errr, i am guessing you are outside of the USA because most of the world is. Also i assumed that your native language is not English (US) because, again, most of the world speaks other languages as their 1st language, even inside the US. Also note that ODF is an ISO standard. ISO meaning it is agreed by an international agency made from people of many different nationalities. While DocX also has a version that is an ISO standard that is not the one implemented in any version of MS Office so far because they all tweak it some different way that is non-compliant with the standards. Point out that you already have the necessary tools for the job but the only reason you would have to buy product from a foreign company is to complete this 1 task, the thesis. The tools you already have do everything else better. Regards from Tom :) From: Sina Momken digi...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 8:39 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering Hello, I need help with LibreOffice Writer - Tools - Outline Numbering. As long as I know Tools - Outline Numbering in LibreOffice Writer is somehow equivalent to defining new Multilevel list in MS Office Word 2010. But I need some features in formatting of each level in Outline Numbering, which is not available in LibreOffice Writer but is available in MS Word - Multilevel list. I need some more professional formatting of each level because I'm writing my thesis based on a template provided by my university and I have to obey that template. In that template (which is a .doc file) format of each level is defined in a particular way that can be shown correctly in MS Word, but not in LibreOffice. I need to be able to customize Number format of each level similar to MS Word like what you can see here: http://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/word-2007-taming-multilevel-list-numbering/ If someone is professional in this issue please help me. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
Hi :) Please could you upload the .doc template to Nabble so everyone can have a look and see if we can modify it ourselves? Is there anything confidential in it that should not be displayed to the world-wide general public? If so then don't upload it! In Nabble start your reply and notice the More button just above where you type the message of your reply. The top option in the More button is to upload a file in much the same way that you would for attaching a file to an email. I think your formatting got messed up by the emailing system so it might be better to just upload a file showing roughly how you want it although the template might explain it fully enough. Regards from Tom :) Sina Momken wrote Let me show you what exact Outline Numbering I want using the example below: Level Example(desired output) Associated Paragraph Style 1 Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 33.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9-Heading 3 5 (b)none 6 Fig (3.12)Fig Caption 7(3.27) Formula 8 Table (3.20)Table Caption As you can see in the example above the '3' in Fig (3.12), (3.27) and Table (3.20) is the chapter number at level 1. But in Writer-Tools-Outline_Numbering the first digit is not '3' (level1 number) but the first digit in level 'n' with Show sublevels = 2 will be number of level 'n-1'. Therefor also in the .doc template everything is stored correctly using MS Word, but when I open it with LO Writer I see Outline Numberings as below: Level Example(Writer result) Associated Paragraph Style 1 Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 33.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9-Heading 3 5 (b)none 6 Fig (b.12)Fig Caption 7(12.27) Formula 8 Table (27.20) Table Caption How can I achieve my desired output I mentioned in first example using LO Writer? snip / In that template (which is a .doc file) format of each level is defined in a particular way that can be shown correctly in MS Word, but not in LibreOffice. I need to be able to customize Number format of each level similar to MS Word like what you can see here: http://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/word-2007-taming-multilevel-list-numbering/ If someone is professional in this issue please help me. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Customizing-Number-Format-of-each-level-in-Writer-Tools-Outline-Numbering-tp4067168p4067193.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] couple questions
On 24/07/13 16:12, Bill Zaffer wrote: I heard about your system on Corbett Report. The reason I would want to join is do not want NSA checking my emails or other forms of communications. Am I protected with your site. Also, if I join your system, do I drop my Cox Internet Connection or still keep it plus with emails do I get to keep my Outlook or hotmail accounts? William Zaffer www.zafferhomes.com Scottsdale, Arizona 480-201-7387 Stop being exploited, learn to eat healthier at home, learn to live a Earth Friendly lifestyle, shop local, and buy more American but moderate consumption. We need to rethink and restructure the system. It is not sustainable. If you’re not prepared to be wrong, you’ll never come up with anything original.” Hello Bill You may have some misunderstanding about this email list. I'm no tech, but what I can say is this and others will no doubt correct me and give more info too: (1) this is an email-based discussion/ support list for people using LibreOffice, an open source alternative to MS Office. It does not require you to join anything (although you can subscribe for nothing to receive replies to your emails - hence I've cc'd you, since I don't know if you subscribed or not). The good news is that because LibO is open source, the chances for the NSA to have a backdoor access to this suite is vanishingly small ... although, of course, using Microsoft as your operating system already means that the NSA have a backdoor into your system - that is to say, that Microsoft is a surveillance enabled system in its own right. This is a link http://tinyurl.com/m2hnbv6 to a google search for microsoft nsa backdoor giving 524,000 results. (2) this will in no way stop the NSA from reading your emails. If you want to do that, you have some options. One is to review http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll412.xml find out who voted No to the Amash Amendment and lobby those to actually represent the interests of the American people in matters of privacy and civil liberties (2nd and 4th Amendment Rights) rather than fuel the paranoid Security Industry agenda for Full Spectrum Dominance. Another would be to visit http://stopprism.org as well as choosing software alternatives from https://prism-break.org/ (3) If you wanted a more secure email, sign up for Hush Mail which claims to encrypt your emails and not to record IP addresses http://www.hushmail.com or just create phoney Google accounts, and use a proxy or a VPN to log into and use these. (4) This site does not provide an ISP, so you will have to keep your existing Net provider unless you decide to opt for an alternative. I hope this helps clarify some things for you. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
Dear Tom, Thank you for reading my question and trying to help. On 07/25/2013 01:17 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Sorry! I couldn't find the section in the guides but you might find this helpful https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide About the documentation and its chapter 12 I don't think it's useful for me now. on a side issue you might find Chapter 12 interesting Creating Tables of Contents, Indexes, and Bibliographies. There is a plug-in/add-on/Extension that might help with that, i think Zotero? http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_installation About Zotero, I currently use Zotero for making bibliography of my thesis. It's very convenient to use, integrates very well with LibreOffice and MS Word and is even better than its proprietary equivalent Endnote. How rigid is the template? Can you create a fresh new Odt document in LibreOffice and follow the guidelines of the template without having to copypaste anything from their template into your new document? If there are bits you need to copy can you use paste-special to paste as unformatted text? Ctrl Shift v rather than just Ctrl v About using the template I can say that using the .doc template is not necessary and my university also has provided the TeX equivalent of that template, but not .odt format. However also using the specific .doc or .tex format is not necessary but my thesis must follow its guidelines (e.g. The fonts and sizes of headers, body, figs, tables, etc.) But fortunately I could successfully import and use the .doc template and only some minor problems like what I'm asking about is still present. Actually there is no need to create a new .odt file from scratch because most of the things work well. A fresh start means you neatly avoid getting stuck with lots of legacy formatting codes that might spring surprises on you randomly in the future. It gives you more control over what you do. Even if I want to make a .odt specific version, I must be able to make Figure and Table numberings with Chapter numbers in themselves. How could I do that? If it is rigid and you can't just start afresh then it might be worth asking the University if they could give you an OpenDocument Format (ODF, specifically Odt) version rather than the proprietary one. If not then perhaps be insolent and ask them to buy and give you the product, that is made by a foreign company, in order to be able to use their template. Perhaps push further and ask them to supply it in a non-American 'local' language. About access to an MS Office instance, I don't have any problem in access to MS Windows, MS Office (the latest version) and many other Win software. I even currently have them but I don't use them because first my thesis needed some implementations in Linux, so it was hard to go back and forth to Windows, and second I don't believe in non-Free-Software at all. Errr, i am guessing you are outside of the USA because most of the world is. Also i assumed that your native language is not English (US) because, again, most of the world speaks other languages as their 1st language, even inside the US. I live in Iran and believe it or not 99% of people here use the pirated version of the latest applications for windows. But even in this situation the trend to Free and Open Source Software is increasing and many Iranian People (like me) are exclusively using FOSS software. This increasing trend is usually because of the Freedom and Capabilities that the FOSS applications and their community bring. It's not matter of money (because we don't buy software here!); I use LO because I believe in Free Software and the community around it. Also note that ODF is an ISO standard. ISO meaning it is agreed by an international agency made from people of many different nationalities. While DocX also has a version that is an ISO standard that is not the one implemented in any version of MS Office so far because they all tweak it some different way that is non-compliant with the standards. Actually the template I have is in .doc format not .docx. And surprisingly LO Writer works very well with .doc format even better than .docx format. I prefer to continue my work in .doc format because it renders well enough in LO in addition to MS Word; But .odt format doesn't represent well in MS Word. So it's safe for me to stay with .doc so if I needed to go back to MS Word I would encounter less issues. Point out that you already have the necessary tools for the job but the only reason you would have to buy product from a foreign company is to complete this 1 task, the thesis. The tools you already have do everything else better. You are right, the tools I already have do everything better and it's the main reason I don't go back to MS Word unless as the last solution. But I think it's possible for me to complete my thesis
Re: [libreoffice-users] couple questions
Hi :) This list is not deliberately giving specific agencies any information or posts from individuals. All your login info is protected as much as can reasonably be done (although i'm sure all sensible people give wrong information or just leave most of it blank). The posts you make are the only thing that is given out but they are publicly available by anyone, anywhere that has a web-browser possibly further. If your posts indicate you are from a specific town then some people might remember that or find it in the archives. So, obviously you would give a fake town or just not tell anyone and not hand out business cards or flyers or anything unless you wanted people to know. I vaguely recall having heard of Tor web-browsing https://www.torproject.org/ However, i heard it is quite slow. Also, as sun shine pointed out it's a bit of a waste of time i you are using Windows. There are a few OSes, such as versions of GnuLinux that do an amazing amount to protect your privacy https://tails.boum.org/ https://whonix.org/wiki/Main_Page both use Tor. If you run either of those on a machine, especially if it's not connected to the internet then you can be reasonably sure no-one can snoop. Tails has a page at DistroWatch so i feel reasonably confident about suggesting them http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=tails Probably others too but i didn't spend long looking. Whonix doesn't appear on DW although does that mean they are not GnuLinux (or Bsd) or that they are more extremely careful and really don't want to be known? Mostly i think these sorts of things are developed to protect canny journos, or people living in dangerous and paranoid countries. Military organisations seem to have only just caught onto the idea that a LiveCd is a pretty neat idea for keeping sessions secure but hopefully that is just their public face and they are working on these sorts of tools in the back-ground. Most people seem quite happy to share almost everything with everyone freely on-line through Facebook, MySpace and all the rest. Not so much a hidden back-door but a wide open front-door and in a knock all the walls down type of way. Everyone is spying on everyone else and happily uploading pictures and whatnot of everyone anywhere without any regard to any sort of privacy. We, collectively, sold out our right to privacy (in countries that bothered to pay lip-service to such concepts that have never really existed anywhere in reality) gleefully years ago. Btw for the first time in just under a decade the UbuntuForums.Com got hacked and all users email addresses got collected. However, swift action (perhaps automated?) shut the whole site down to attempt to prevent any other data getting siphoned off. I changed all my Ubuntu-related passwords quite quickly because i get paranoid quite easily so i was expecting other sites to domino but that never happened and all other sites have remained safe. Regards from Tom :) From: sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: bzaf...@hotmail.com Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 10:03 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] couple questions On 24/07/13 16:12, Bill Zaffer wrote: I heard about your system on Corbett Report. The reason I would want to join is do not want NSA checking my emails or other forms of communications. Am I protected with your site. Also, if I join your system, do I drop my Cox Internet Connection or still keep it plus with emails do I get to keep my Outlook or hotmail accounts? William Zaffer www.zafferhomes.com Scottsdale, Arizona 480-201-7387 Stop being exploited, learn to eat healthier at home, learn to live a Earth Friendly lifestyle, shop local, and buy more American but moderate consumption. We need to rethink and restructure the system. It is not sustainable. If you’re not prepared to be wrong, you’ll never come up with anything original.” Hello Bill You may have some misunderstanding about this email list. I'm no tech, but what I can say is this and others will no doubt correct me and give more info too: (1) this is an email-based discussion/ support list for people using LibreOffice, an open source alternative to MS Office. It does not require you to join anything (although you can subscribe for nothing to receive replies to your emails - hence I've cc'd you, since I don't know if you subscribed or not). The good news is that because LibO is open source, the chances for the NSA to have a backdoor access to this suite is vanishingly small ... although, of course, using Microsoft as your operating system already means that the NSA have a backdoor into your system - that is to say, that Microsoft is a surveillance enabled system in its own right. This is a link http://tinyurl.com/m2hnbv6 to a google search for microsoft nsa
[libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
Dear Tom, Thank you very very much for taking time trying to help me. The .doc file I'm currently working on is ~200 pages, is in Farsi language and is heavy enough that I think is not useful for you. I can share the university template too, but its main problem is that the template is mostly in Farsi and not understandable to others. But I'm sure that my problem is not because of the template or its language. So I'll translate the template to English (especially those parts of the template that are related to this problem), then I'll write an example with the translated template and I'll upload that example file. Using that example file you will exactly understand what is my problem. I guess that LO Writer UI doesn't support the exact Outline Numbering format that I want, or there is a trick or point that I don't know. But even if LO Writer doesn't support my requested feature, I believe there should be an alternative solution to make the same output, because the Outline Numbering format that I want is famous and is used in many other publications. Please wait, I'll make and upload the file and then post its link in reply to this message. On 07/25/2013 01:27 PM, Tom wrote: Hi :) Please could you upload the .doc template to Nabble so everyone can have a look and see if we can modify it ourselves? Is there anything confidential in it that should not be displayed to the world-wide general public? If so then don't upload it! In Nabble start your reply and notice the More button just above where you type the message of your reply. The top option in the More button is to upload a file in much the same way that you would for attaching a file to an email. I think your formatting got messed up by the emailing system so it might be better to just upload a file showing roughly how you want it although the template might explain it fully enough. Regards from Tom :) Sina Momken wrote Let me show you what exact Outline Numbering I want using the example below: LevelExample(desired output) Associated Paragraph Style 1 Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 3 3.2.5- Heading 2 43.2.5.9-Heading 3 5 (b)none 6 Fig (3.12)Fig Caption 7 (3.27) Formula 8Table (3.20)Table Caption As you can see in the example above the '3' in Fig (3.12), (3.27) and Table (3.20) is the chapter number at level 1. But in Writer-Tools-Outline_Numbering the first digit is not '3' (level1 number) but the first digit in level 'n' with Show sublevels = 2 will be number of level 'n-1'. Therefor also in the .doc template everything is stored correctly using MS Word, but when I open it with LO Writer I see Outline Numberings as below: LevelExample(Writer result) Associated Paragraph Style 1 Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 3 3.2.5- Heading 2 43.2.5.9-Heading 3 5 (b)none 6 Fig (b.12)Fig Caption 7 (12.27) Formula 8Table (27.20) Table Caption How can I achieve my desired output I mentioned in first example using LO Writer? snip / In that template (which is a .doc file) format of each level is defined in a particular way that can be shown correctly in MS Word, but not in LibreOffice. I need to be able to customize Number format of each level similar to MS Word like what you can see here: http://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/word-2007-taming-multilevel-list-numbering/ If someone is professional in this issue please help me. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Customizing-Number-Format-of-each-level-in-Writer-Tools-Outline-Numbering-tp4067168p4067193.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] couple questions
Hi :) Errr, ok, i have re-read this and think i misunderstood a few things. Yes, people do keep going on about security and the dangers of the internet (usually hypocritically) but we do keep your personal data about as safe as, or possibly safer than the Pentagon keeps there's or the space station keeps their commandcontrol systems, or the stock-exchanges around the world keep their's. Like all of them we use one of many unix-based systems. Hmm, not all stock-exchanges are as safe and definitely not all banks! Windows is ok as a desktop but it's not good enough when security is critical. There are many things that would be considered a security problem in unix-based systems that Windows doesn't even worry about at all, such as being forced to shut-down a machine. 1. You keep your existing internet connection. If you want to use a different one from your existing one that has nothing to do with us and if you do change then that doesn't affect us at all. As long as you get access to the internet that's all that matters really. 2. Your hotmail account or other email accounts remain the same. Again that is nothing to do with us. if you change to a different email account then you would have to re-subscribe with the new one. So, it's probably easier to just keep the one you have. Your emails come through your internet connection but if you changed email account or got a 2nd one then that would come through your internet connection too. You could have lots of different email accounts with lots of different companies or even lots from the same company but it's usually better to keep it simple and just have 1 or 2 email accounts. Your internet service provider (=isp) does not need to know about what email accounts you have. If you do ever change your isp then they also don't need to know about your email accounts. Your isp might want to know your email address so that they can write to you. 3. You can keep using Outlook. It is just a tool for reading emails. If you have lots of email accounts then you can probably get Outlook to collect them all for you but you would have to configure Outlook to do that. If you are temporarily without internet access then Outlook can probably show you your old emails but it just wont get any of the new ones until you connect again. People may tell you that you have to change to something else for any of those 3 things but that is much the same as telling you to eat greens or eat more fruit. They might think other tools are better for you but it's your choice as to what you use. Please ignore my earlier post! I thought the question was about something else. Regards from Tom :) From: sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: bzaf...@hotmail.com Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 10:03 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] couple questions On 24/07/13 16:12, Bill Zaffer wrote: I heard about your system on Corbett Report. The reason I would want to join is do not want NSA checking my emails or other forms of communications. Am I protected with your site. Also, if I join your system, do I drop my Cox Internet Connection or still keep it plus with emails do I get to keep my Outlook or hotmail accounts? William Zaffer www.zafferhomes.com Scottsdale, Arizona 480-201-7387 Stop being exploited, learn to eat healthier at home, learn to live a Earth Friendly lifestyle, shop local, and buy more American but moderate consumption. We need to rethink and restructure the system. It is not sustainable. If you’re not prepared to be wrong, you’ll never come up with anything original.” Hello Bill You may have some misunderstanding about this email list. I'm no tech, but what I can say is this and others will no doubt correct me and give more info too: (1) this is an email-based discussion/ support list for people using LibreOffice, an open source alternative to MS Office. It does not require you to join anything (although you can subscribe for nothing to receive replies to your emails - hence I've cc'd you, since I don't know if you subscribed or not). The good news is that because LibO is open source, the chances for the NSA to have a backdoor access to this suite is vanishingly small ... although, of course, using Microsoft as your operating system already means that the NSA have a backdoor into your system - that is to say, that Microsoft is a surveillance enabled system in its own right. This is a link http://tinyurl.com/m2hnbv6 to a google search for microsoft nsa backdoor giving 524,000 results. (2) this will in no way stop the NSA from reading your emails. If you want to do that, you have some options. One is to review http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll412.xml find out who voted No to the Amash Amendment and lobby those to actually
Re: [libreoffice-users] couple questions
Hi Tom Actually, I preferred your first reply :-) But, your second was more to the point of the OP. Cheers On 25/07/13 11:45, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Errr, ok, i have re-read this and think i misunderstood a few things. Yes, people do keep going on about security and the dangers of the internet (usually hypocritically) but we do keep your personal data about as safe as, or possibly safer than the Pentagon keeps there's or the space station keeps their commandcontrol systems, or the stock-exchanges around the world keep their's. Like all of them we use one of many unix-based systems.Hmm, not all stock-exchanges are as safe and definitely not all banks! Windows is ok as a desktop but it's not good enough when security is critical. There are many things that would be considered a security problem in unix-based systems that Windows doesn't even worry about at all, such as being forced to shut-down a machine. 1. You keep your existing internet connection. If you want to use a different one from your existing one that has nothing to do with us and if you do change then that doesn't affect us at all. As long as you get access to the internet that's all that matters really. 2. Your hotmail account or other email accounts remain the same. Again that is nothing to do with us. if you change to a different email account then you would have to re-subscribe with the new one. So, it's probably easier to just keep the one you have. Your emails come through your internet connection but if you changed email account or got a 2nd one then that would come through your internet connection too. You could have lots of different email accounts with lots of different companies or even lots from the same company but it's usually better to keep it simple and just have 1 or 2 email accounts. Your internet service provider (=isp) does not need to know about what email accounts you have. If you do ever change your isp then they also don't need to know about your email accounts. Your isp might want to know your email address so that they can write to you. 3. You can keep using Outlook. It is just a tool for reading emails. If you have lots of email accounts then you can probably get Outlook to collect them all for you but you would have to configure Outlook to do that. If you are temporarily without internet access then Outlook can probably show you your old emails but it just wont get any of the new ones until you connect again. People may tell you that you have to change to something else for any of those 3 things but that is much the same as telling you to eat greens or eat more fruit. They might think other tools are better for you but it's your choice as to what you use. Please ignore my earlier post! I thought the question was about something else. Regards from Tom :) *From:* sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com *To:* users@global.libreoffice.org *Cc:* bzaf...@hotmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, 25 July 2013, 10:03 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] couple questions On 24/07/13 16:12, Bill Zaffer wrote: I heard about your system on Corbett Report. The reason I would want to join is do not want NSA checking my emails or other forms of communications. Am I protected with your site. Also, if I join your system, do I drop my Cox Internet Connection or still keep it plus with emails do I get to keep my Outlook or hotmail accounts? William Zaffer www.zafferhomes.com Scottsdale, Arizona 480-201-7387 Stop being exploited, learn to eat healthier at home, learn to live a Earth Friendly lifestyle, shop local, and buy more American but moderate consumption. We need to rethink and restructure the system. It is not sustainable. If you’re not prepared to be wrong, you’ll never come up with anything original.” Hello Bill You may have some misunderstanding about this email list. I'm no tech, but what I can say is this and others will no doubt correct me and give more info too: (1) this is an email-based discussion/ support list for people using LibreOffice, an open source alternative to MS Office. It does not require you to join anything (although you can subscribe for nothing to receive replies to your emails - hence I've cc'd you, since I don't know if you subscribed or not). The good news is that because LibO is open source, the chances for the NSA to have a backdoor access to this suite is vanishingly small ... although, of course, using Microsoft as your operating system already means that the NSA have a backdoor into your system - that is to say, that Microsoft is a surveillance enabled system in its own right. This is a link http://tinyurl.com/m2hnbv6 to a google search for
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
Hi :) Please don't bother to translate the document or the template! It's not the contents that we are interested in so much as the formatting. Errr, since we might not understand the Farsi instructions it might be good to just translate the bit about outline numbering. You already did that in a previous email but the formatting went wrong. So if you could copypaste your earlier explanation into a fresh document and then upload that it might help us. It was this sort of thing Level Example(desired output) Associated Paragraph Style 1 Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 3 3.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9- Heading 3 5 (b) none 6 Fig (3.12) Fig Caption 7 (3.27) Formula 8 Table (3.20) Table Caption that i think needs to go into a fresh document. Was it a table? Was it 3 columns? I think i can just about see what it was meant to be but i cold easily be wrong. Regards from Tom :) From: Sina Momken digi...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 11:30 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering Dear Tom, Thank you very very much for taking time trying to help me. The .doc file I'm currently working on is ~200 pages, is in Farsi language and is heavy enough that I think is not useful for you. I can share the university template too, but its main problem is that the template is mostly in Farsi and not understandable to others. But I'm sure that my problem is not because of the template or its language. So I'll translate the template to English (especially those parts of the template that are related to this problem), then I'll write an example with the translated template and I'll upload that example file. Using that example file you will exactly understand what is my problem. I guess that LO Writer UI doesn't support the exact Outline Numbering format that I want, or there is a trick or point that I don't know. But even if LO Writer doesn't support my requested feature, I believe there should be an alternative solution to make the same output, because the Outline Numbering format that I want is famous and is used in many other publications. Please wait, I'll make and upload the file and then post its link in reply to this message. On 07/25/2013 01:27 PM, Tom wrote: Hi :) Please could you upload the .doc template to Nabble so everyone can have a look and see if we can modify it ourselves? Is there anything confidential in it that should not be displayed to the world-wide general public? If so then don't upload it! In Nabble start your reply and notice the More button just above where you type the message of your reply. The top option in the More button is to upload a file in much the same way that you would for attaching a file to an email. I think your formatting got messed up by the emailing system so it might be better to just upload a file showing roughly how you want it although the template might explain it fully enough. Regards from Tom :) Sina Momken wrote Let me show you what exact Outline Numbering I want using the example below: Level Example(desired output) Associated Paragraph Style 1 Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 3 3.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9- Heading 3 5 (b) none 6 Fig (3.12) Fig Caption 7 (3.27) Formula 8 Table (3.20) Table Caption As you can see in the example above the '3' in Fig (3.12), (3.27) and Table (3.20) is the chapter number at level 1. But in Writer-Tools-Outline_Numbering the first digit is not '3' (level1 number) but the first digit in level 'n' with Show sublevels = 2 will be number of level 'n-1'. Therefor also in the .doc template everything is stored correctly using MS Word, but when I open it with LO Writer I see Outline Numberings as below: Level Example(Writer result) Associated Paragraph Style 1 Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 3 3.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9- Heading 3 5 (b) none 6 Fig (b.12) Fig Caption 7 (12.27) Formula 8 Table (27.20) Table Caption How can I achieve my desired output I mentioned in first example using LO Writer? snip / In that template (which is a .doc file) format of each level is defined in a particular way that can be shown correctly in MS Word, but not in LibreOffice. I need to be able to customize Number format of each level similar to MS Word like what you can see here: http://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/word-2007-taming-multilevel-list-numbering/ If someone is professional in this issue please help me.
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
Hi :) Ok, i had misunderstood due to some prejudices of my own. It is good to hear of a University that provides non-MS formats! In my country it is hard-work trying to get them to accept anything else. TeX is good. TeX might do the outline numbering you want by default. If you can use TeX it might be better than Writer. it might let you copypaste everything into TeX fairly easily? If you are not already familiar with TeX (most people aren't and i'm one of them) then Writer should be able to do it. I don't know how but others on the list might be able to help. Since you are already using Zotero and Writer it sounds like you are already using the best tools and already know plenty about them. The link to Chapter 12 assumed you were just about to start writing rather than being well into the middle of it already. I am not sure how to do Even if I want to make a .odt specific version, I must be able to make Figure and Table numberings with Chapter numbers in themselves. How could I do that? but hopefully someone else might be able to give you a good answer later. The problem with going backwards and forwards between different formats is that sometimes you get extra codes/mark-up hidden inside the document. Usually the best way is to keep an original in Odt and just edit that. Obviously old versions and backups of it are a good plan! Then make a copy of the document in Doc only when you need to show it to others. Any changes made in Doc are probably better copypasted back into the original Odt. it's not very convenient though! Hopefully everyone will be happy editing in Odt one day! I don't think that is the reason you are having troubles with numbering though and like you say it might well not have affected your document at all. There are many countries where most people prefer to use pirated software rather than pay for it. It's good to see some places beginning to use OpenSource more to get out of that trap. In my country i remember people being quite happy to use pirated software but now being keen to buy that software instead. It might be just because i am now working in a more corporate environment. Regards from Tom :) From: Sina Momken digi...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 11:09 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering Dear Tom, Thank you for reading my question and trying to help. On 07/25/2013 01:17 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Sorry! I couldn't find the section in the guides but you might find this helpful https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide About the documentation and its chapter 12 I don't think it's useful for me now. on a side issue you might find Chapter 12 interesting Creating Tables of Contents, Indexes, and Bibliographies. There is a plug-in/add-on/Extension that might help with that, i think Zotero? http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_installation About Zotero, I currently use Zotero for making bibliography of my thesis. It's very convenient to use, integrates very well with LibreOffice and MS Word and is even better than its proprietary equivalent Endnote. How rigid is the template? Can you create a fresh new Odt document in LibreOffice and follow the guidelines of the template without having to copypaste anything from their template into your new document? If there are bits you need to copy can you use paste-special to paste as unformatted text? Ctrl Shift v rather than just Ctrl v About using the template I can say that using the .doc template is not necessary and my university also has provided the TeX equivalent of that template, but not .odt format. However also using the specific .doc or .tex format is not necessary but my thesis must follow its guidelines (e.g. The fonts and sizes of headers, body, figs, tables, etc.) But fortunately I could successfully import and use the .doc template and only some minor problems like what I'm asking about is still present. Actually there is no need to create a new .odt file from scratch because most of the things work well. A fresh start means you neatly avoid getting stuck with lots of legacy formatting codes that might spring surprises on you randomly in the future. It gives you more control over what you do. Even if I want to make a .odt specific version, I must be able to make Figure and Table numberings with Chapter numbers in themselves. How could I do that? If it is rigid and you can't just start afresh then it might be worth asking the University if they could give you an OpenDocument Format (ODF, specifically Odt) version rather than the proprietary one. If not then perhaps be insolent and ask them to buy and give you the
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6
Hi :) 'Fortunate' like 99.99% of people! Upgrading from 3.x.x to 4.0.x produced a startling lack of bump in traffic on this list, except old die-hards remarking on how well it went. The 4.1.0-beta gave more of a bump but still nothing like the start of a new branch used to produce here. If we take the ancient figure of 60milion users (am i remembering correctly?) world-wide and that this is the international list and gets emails from Japan, India, Iran, even New Zealand and all around the globe i think we can safely say that 1. not so many are upgrading and/or 2. not many are having troubles of course there is another possiblity but LO usage seems to be growing rapidly, not dwindling! Regards from Tom :) From: Dave Liesse dslie...@liessefamily.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013, 18:51 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6 Thanks, Andrew; I hadn't noticed this before. My LO 3.4 directory is still present, but practically empty. This is NOT good behavior if the user is not notified first. I'll be sure to go back and find your earlier message and save it, for future use. When there's an upgrade (as opposed to a patch), I want the ability to test it before abandoning my old software. Guess I'm fortunate not to have had issues going from 3.4 to 4.0! Dave On 7/24/2013 08:13, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Virgil You have observed correctly. I have just done a test of installing two version of AOO under Windows 7, and quite correctly, it installs it's own local cache/store of settings, per version, thus allowing two copies to work side by side, as long as you create two distinct install folders (by default I never allow any installing program's defaults in Windows 7, many known issues with virtual links to folders etc). And correct in your observation, as well as my earlier supplied info, LO does not do this, rather opting for a single user settings store, detecting another install of LO, and uninstalling it, before installing the upgrade (or possible downgrade). But this is not a bad thing though, as covered by other respondees. The link I supplied in my earlier email shows one how to overcome this issue of LO and a universal store, allowing for two versions simultaneous and operational on Windows 7. Regards Andrew -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
Hi Sina Sina Momken schrieb: Let me show you what exact Outline Numbering I want using the example below: Level Example(desired output) Associated Paragraph Style 1Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 3 3.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9-Heading 3 5(b)none 6 Fig (3.12)Fig Caption 7 (3.27) Formula 8 Table (3.20)Table Caption As you can see in the example above the '3' in Fig (3.12), (3.27) and Table (3.20) is the chapter number at level 1. [..] How can I achieve my desired output I mentioned in first example using LO Writer? You do the outline numbering with Chapter, Heading 1 , ... with normal outline numbering. You need to define a paragraph style Chapter and alter the assignment between paragraph style and level in the outline numbering dialog. LibreOffice uses the field Number range for numbering in captions. Therefore these are not at all in the outline numbering. But when you insert a caption to a table or figure, you will see a Options-buttons. There you can tell LibreOffice to count newly for each chapter. The caption item in the context menu is only a shortened way to set a caption. You can also write your own caption inserting the field Number range manually. That will be the right way for numbering formulas. The Autotext FN puts the formula and the formula-numbering in a table. I would not use it, because it is not easily possible to move paragraphs, when the movement crosses a table. I would position the formula number using a tab. For display formulas in own paragraphs you can define a suitable paragraph style. The captions are normal paragraphs, so you can add the needed brackets manually as you need them. Each Number range will generate its own index later on. The numbers of the outline can be inserted using fields. Do not try to mimic the way things are done in Word, the concepts are different. But you can be sure, that you can write well formatted academic papers in LibreOffice. Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to change url for persona settings
Hi :) Thanks. Nicely handled. :) Regards from Tom :) From: Scott Castaline skotch...@gmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013, 17:15 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to change url for persona settings Tom, there's already 2 bug reports open on this as mentioned by Peter in another post in this thread. Although I think one of them has or had been closed as it was a duplicate bug report to the original one. On 07/24/2013 03:59 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think time to post a bug report! https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport Just copy*paste the old settings over the top of the new ones might mean some settings are not quite suitable for the new branch. It's not very likely imo especially for something like personas/themes that have been around for quite a while now but it might be a case where you need to reinstall the 4.1.x and let it adjust any settings it needs to. Definitely keep an untweaked copy of your 4.0.x settings though in case you need to go back to the current stable branch! Regards from Tom :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
Ok Tom, It's the partially translated template, I was speaking about. http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4067241/iust_translated_english_template_for_thesis_final_%28nazanin%29_writable.doc Because of lack of time I only translated Chapter 1 and Chpater 2. I also translated the used paragraph styles and put '_' in front of those translated paragraph styles. (e.g. _Chpater, _Fig_Caption, etc.). Some digits are still in Farsi. (۱۲۳۴۵۶۷۸۹۰=1234567890) As I described in the translated Chapter 2, the Numberings are incorrect. You can see the incorrect numberings plus the expected correct numberings above each Fig, Table or Formula. The main reason for numberings being incorrect is Tools-Outline_Numbering not being flexible enough. If Tools-Outline_Numbering in LO Writer was as flexible as Multilevel List Numberings of MS Word (as you can see in http://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/word-2007-taming-multilevel-list-numbering/) this problem could be fixed. After seeing this document if you still has any question about the reason of this incorrect numberings in LO Writer, don't hesitate to ask. Likewise, if you have any idea or possible solution I'll be more than glad to know. Best, Sina Momken On 07/25/2013 03:00 PM, Sina Momken wrote: Dear Tom, Thank you very very much for taking time trying to help me. The .doc file I'm currently working on is ~200 pages, is in Farsi language and is heavy enough that I think is not useful for you. I can share the university template too, but its main problem is that the template is mostly in Farsi and not understandable to others. But I'm sure that my problem is not because of the template or its language. So I'll translate the template to English (especially those parts of the template that are related to this problem), then I'll write an example with the translated template and I'll upload that example file. Using that example file you will exactly understand what is my problem. I guess that LO Writer UI doesn't support the exact Outline Numbering format that I want, or there is a trick or point that I don't know. But even if LO Writer doesn't support my requested feature, I believe there should be an alternative solution to make the same output, because the Outline Numbering format that I want is famous and is used in many other publications. Please wait, I'll make and upload the file and then post its link in reply to this message. On 07/25/2013 01:27 PM, Tom wrote: Hi :) Please could you upload the .doc template to Nabble so everyone can have a look and see if we can modify it ourselves? Is there anything confidential in it that should not be displayed to the world-wide general public? If so then don't upload it! In Nabble start your reply and notice the More button just above where you type the message of your reply. The top option in the More button is to upload a file in much the same way that you would for attaching a file to an email. I think your formatting got messed up by the emailing system so it might be better to just upload a file showing roughly how you want it although the template might explain it fully enough. Regards from Tom :) Sina Momken wrote Let me show you what exact Outline Numbering I want using the example below: Level Example(desired output) Associated Paragraph Style 1Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 3 3.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9-Heading 3 5(b)none 6 Fig (3.12)Fig Caption 7 (3.27) Formula 8 Table (3.20)Table Caption As you can see in the example above the '3' in Fig (3.12), (3.27) and Table (3.20) is the chapter number at level 1. But in Writer-Tools-Outline_Numbering the first digit is not '3' (level1 number) but the first digit in level 'n' with Show sublevels = 2 will be number of level 'n-1'. Therefor also in the .doc template everything is stored correctly using MS Word, but when I open it with LO Writer I see Outline Numberings as below: Level Example(Writer result) Associated Paragraph Style 1Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 3 3.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9-Heading 3 5(b)none 6 Fig (b.12)Fig Caption 7 (12.27) Formula 8 Table (27.20) Table Caption How can I achieve my desired output I mentioned in first example using LO Writer? snip / In that template (which is a .doc file) format of each level is defined in a particular way that can be shown correctly in MS Word, but not in LibreOffice. I need to be able to customize Number format of each level similar to MS Word like what you can see here: http://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/word-2007-taming-multilevel-list-numbering/ If someone is professional in this issue
[libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
It seems that the tables in original message below are not readable. So I typed the message in LO Writer and attached here: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4067244/Outline_number_message_2.odt You can read the post below more clearly using the .odt file I attached above. On 07/25/2013 12:47 PM, Sina Momken wrote: Let me show you what exact Outline Numbering I want using the example below: Level Example(desired output) Associated Paragraph Style 1 Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 33.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9-Heading 3 5 (b)none 6 Fig (3.12)Fig Caption 7(3.27) Formula 8 Table (3.20)Table Caption As you can see in the example above the '3' in Fig (3.12), (3.27) and Table (3.20) is the chapter number at level 1. But in Writer-Tools-Outline_Numbering the first digit is not '3' (level1 number) but the first digit in level 'n' with Show sublevels = 2 will be number of level 'n-1'. Therefor also in the .doc template everything is stored correctly using MS Word, but when I open it with LO Writer I see Outline Numberings as below: Level Example(Writer result) Associated Paragraph Style 1 Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 33.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9-Heading 3 5 (b)none 6 Fig (b.12)Fig Caption 7(12.27) Formula 8 Table (27.20) Table Caption How can I achieve my desired output I mentioned in first example using LO Writer? On 07/25/2013 12:09 PM, Sina Momken wrote: Hello, I need help with LibreOffice Writer - Tools - Outline Numbering. As long as I know Tools - Outline Numbering in LibreOffice Writer is somehow equivalent to defining new Multilevel list in MS Office Word 2010. But I need some features in formating of each level in Outline Numbering, which is not available in LibreOffice Writer but is available in MS Word - Multilevel list. I need some more professional formatting of each level because I'm writing my thesis based on a template provided by my university and I have to obey that template. In that template (which is a .doc file) format of each level is defined in a particular way that can be shown correctly in MS Word, but not in LibreOffice. I need to be able to customize Number format of each level similar to MS Word like what you can see here: http://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/word-2007-taming-multilevel-list-numbering/ If someone is professional in this issue please help me. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6
Or, people have upgraded, have had problems, and are too disappointed to keep reporting them. For example, as I reported before, LO 3.6.6.2 properly loads the style list in the format it was in on the last close out. For me that is hierarchical, my preferred way of displaying styles. LO 4.0 went back to the old behavior of defaulting to another view setting. LO 4.0.4 has really strange behavior. When a document loads with the style list, the notation at the bottom of the list *says* it's hierarchical (just as I wanted), but the actual list is not arranged hierarchically; it is arranged alphabetically. Admittedly, it's a minor irritation, but one that I didn't have with LO 3.6 As we now know, upgrades sometimes contain bug regressions. That being the case, an upgrade to LO 4 should politely leave LO 3.6 alone, so those of us who prefer the older version wouldn't have to reinstall it. AOO has done this; TDF should be able to as well. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:58 AM To: dslie...@liessefamily.net ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6 Hi :) 'Fortunate' like 99.99% of people! Upgrading from 3.x.x to 4.0.x produced a startling lack of bump in traffic on this list, except old die-hards remarking on how well it went. The 4.1.0-beta gave more of a bump but still nothing like the start of a new branch used to produce here. If we take the ancient figure of 60milion users (am i remembering correctly?) world-wide and that this is the international list and gets emails from Japan, India, Iran, even New Zealand and all around the globe i think we can safely say that 1. not so many are upgrading and/or 2. not many are having troubles of course there is another possiblity but LO usage seems to be growing rapidly, not dwindling! Regards from Tom :) From: Dave Liesse dslie...@liessefamily.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013, 18:51 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6 Thanks, Andrew; I hadn't noticed this before. My LO 3.4 directory is still present, but practically empty. This is NOT good behavior if the user is not notified first. I'll be sure to go back and find your earlier message and save it, for future use. When there's an upgrade (as opposed to a patch), I want the ability to test it before abandoning my old software. Guess I'm fortunate not to have had issues going from 3.4 to 4.0! Dave On 7/24/2013 08:13, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Virgil You have observed correctly. I have just done a test of installing two version of AOO under Windows 7, and quite correctly, it installs it's own local cache/store of settings, per version, thus allowing two copies to work side by side, as long as you create two distinct install folders (by default I never allow any installing program's defaults in Windows 7, many known issues with virtual links to folders etc). And correct in your observation, as well as my earlier supplied info, LO does not do this, rather opting for a single user settings store, detecting another install of LO, and uninstalling it, before installing the upgrade (or possible downgrade). But this is not a bad thing though, as covered by other respondees. The link I supplied in my earlier email shows one how to overcome this issue of LO and a universal store, allowing for two versions simultaneous and operational on Windows 7. Regards Andrew -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?
Hi :) Thanks :) It's actually easier for me to go from machine to machine and do 1. Open LibreOffice 2. Switch off quick starter 3. Install newer version of LO 4. Check for updates 5. switch on quick starter again than to listen to them go on and on about how slow LO is to start-up. it is a little slower than MSO but not by much. perhaps if the spalsh screen and progress bar appeared earlier to give them something to look at. Anyway i really should get on and install the 4.0.4 today if i can. Regards from Tom :) From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013, 11:58 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? There is an option in the Extension Manager to find updates. That is where I get the issue when I want to install the updates and sometimes the quickstarter will block the update, since you cannot shut down and restart LO completely with that option enabled. I do not know if it is still true with the 4.x versions, but it has been at least a year since I enabled the quickstarter option on my Ubuntu desktop and/or my Windows laptop. On 07/24/2013 06:21 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I have it on for my colleagues to make LO start-up just that bit faster. They pick on any slightest thing as a blocker and slower start-up drives them up the wall. They really have no clue about adding Extensions and haven't used LO enough to grumble about any 'missing' functionality. if they did i would add the appropriate Extension for them. I already do the updates for them anyway. Admittedly i am not in a perfect position and it's probably not a good idea to copy me. On my own logins i avoid the quick-starter because there is plenty else to get on with while waiting for something to open. Regards from Tom :) From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013, 10:51 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? On 07/24/2013 12:33 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. I have 3.6, 4.1dev. and AOO 4.0 installed together on my mac. Steve On 2013-07-24 12:41, V Stuart Foote wrote: Yes if one or both are fully installed (as opposed to /A administrative installs) they will interfere in subtle ways. Actions to mitigate: 1) Disable the Quickstarter for both during installation -- the TDF LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice versions will conflict--best if both are off. Done from AppWiz.cpl and a modify installation of both. I always disable the Quickstart option. In the past, having it active caused issues to updating some of the add on extensions. 2) Also, only one or the other should have the Windows Explorer Integration enabled (it provides a thumbnail view of ODF documents) in Desktop or Thumbnail views in Windows Explorer (Desktop and other folder views). Personally I also leave that unchecked when installing. 3) Finally, if using the release rather than development builds. The Windows registry will be written with file associations--the two programs should coexist to open a file type, but only one can be set as the default for any particular ODF or MS Office format. So keep track of that. Good luck. From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:13 PM To: Virgil Arrington; us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Hi :) I think it's the same conflicts as between any 2 versions of LibreOffice or any 2 versions of AOO or OOo. Basically avoid having both open at the same time. That might mean turning off the Quickstarter of both of them. This link might help https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 20:38 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting
[libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
It seems that the tables in original message below are not readable. So I typed the message in LO Writer and attached here: Outline_number_message_2.odt http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4067244/Outline_number_message_2.odt You can read the post below more clearly using the .odt file I attached above. masterman wrote Let me show you what exact Outline Numbering I want using the example below: Level Example(desired output) Associated Paragraph Style 1 Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 33.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9-Heading 3 5 (b)none 6 Fig (3.12)Fig Caption 7(3.27) Formula 8 Table (3.20)Table Caption As you can see in the example above the '3' in Fig (3.12), (3.27) and Table (3.20) is the chapter number at level 1. But in Writer-Tools-Outline_Numbering the first digit is not '3' (level1 number) but the first digit in level 'n' with Show sublevels = 2 will be number of level 'n-1'. Therefor also in the .doc template everything is stored correctly using MS Word, but when I open it with LO Writer I see Outline Numberings as below: Level Example(Writer result) Associated Paragraph Style 1 Chapter 3: Chapter 2 3.2- Heading 1 33.2.5- Heading 2 4 3.2.5.9-Heading 3 5 (b)none 6 Fig (b.12)Fig Caption 7(12.27) Formula 8 Table (27.20) Table Caption How can I achieve my desired output I mentioned in first example using LO Writer? On 07/25/2013 12:09 PM, Sina Momken wrote: Hello, I need help with LibreOffice Writer - Tools - Outline Numbering. As long as I know Tools - Outline Numbering in LibreOffice Writer is somehow equivalent to defining new Multilevel list in MS Office Word 2010. But I need some features in formating of each level in Outline Numbering, which is not available in LibreOffice Writer but is available in MS Word - Multilevel list. I need some more professional formatting of each level because I'm writing my thesis based on a template provided by my university and I have to obey that template. In that template (which is a .doc file) format of each level is defined in a particular way that can be shown correctly in MS Word, but not in LibreOffice. I need to be able to customize Number format of each level similar to MS Word like what you can see here: http://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/word-2007-taming-multilevel-list-numbering/ If someone is professional in this issue please help me. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscribe@.libreoffice Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Customizing-Number-Format-of-each-level-in-Writer-Tools-Outline-Numbering-tp4067168p4067244.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
Ok Tom, It's the partially translated template, I was speaking about. iust_translated_english_template_for_thesis_final_(nazanin)_writable.doc http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4067241/iust_translated_english_template_for_thesis_final_%28nazanin%29_writable.doc Because of lack of time I only translated Chapter 1 and Chpater 2. I also translated the used paragraph styles and put '_' in front of those translated paragraph styles. (e.g. _Chpater, _Fig_Caption, etc.). Some digits are still in Farsi. (۱۲۳۴۵۶۷۸۹۰=1234567890) As I described in the translated Chapter 2, the Numberings are incorrect. You can see the incorrect numberings plus the expected correct numberings above each Fig, Table or Formula. The main reason for numberings being incorrect is Tools-Outline_Numbering not being flexible enough. If Tools-Outline_Numbering in LO Writer was as flexible as Multilevel List Numberings of MS Word (as you can see in http://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/word-2007-taming-multilevel-list-numbering/) this problem could be fixed. After seeing this document if you still has any question about the reason of this incorrect numberings in LO Writer, don't hesitate to ask. Likewise, if you have any idea or possible solution I'll be more than glad to know. Best, Sina Momken -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Customizing-Number-Format-of-each-level-in-Writer-Tools-Outline-Numbering-tp4067168p4067241.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Creating non-printable pages in Writer
Hi all, I have a Writer template (OTT) that I wish colleagues to use, but I would like the first couple pages to contain instructions on how to use the template. Naturally I wouldn't want these to be printed or exported to a PDF. Is there any way to mark pages as unprintable/non-exportable in a template so that I don't have to include an instruction to users to delete those 2 pages before exporting? I don't want to mark just the text as non-printable as this will still occupy space, and I also have a header and footer that would be produced on those 2 pages anyway. Thanks Thom -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java
I have been using various versions of LO for some time now and have just upgraded from V4.0.4 to V4.1. All seems OK apart from base which does not find Java Runtime SE 7u25; however it is shown OK in the advanced Options - LibreOffice - Advanced setting as Oracle Corporation 1.7.0_25. Is this a bug or is there a workaround? Using Win7 64bit -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LO-4-1-upgrade-from-4-0-4-now-does-not-find-Java-tp4067306.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating non-printable pages in Writer
Hi :) I don't know so i'm going to make a guess and see what others say about it. Can the 1st 2 pages be a separate section? Is that the best approach? Regards from Tom :) From: Thom Brown t...@linux.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 16:49 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Creating non-printable pages in Writer Hi all, I have a Writer template (OTT) that I wish colleagues to use, but I would like the first couple pages to contain instructions on how to use the template. Naturally I wouldn't want these to be printed or exported to a PDF. Is there any way to mark pages as unprintable/non-exportable in a template so that I don't have to include an instruction to users to delete those 2 pages before exporting? I don't want to mark just the text as non-printable as this will still occupy space, and I also have a header and footer that would be produced on those 2 pages anyway. Thanks Thom -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Totals in Base Report
I have a report built in a standard LO Base file. It uses a query that combines two tables in my film library database—one table is the detail of the films, the other is for the “box sets”. Both tables have a cost field that I want to accumulate in subtotals and the report total. I have the report subtotaled by box set. My problem is with the BoxSetCost from the BoxSet table. I can get the subtotals by box set to work, but the report total will not. It accumulates the BoxSetCost for each film in the set, not once for the set. Here are a couple of things that I have tried: I tried setting up the BoxSet.BoxSetCost subtotal as a user-defined function, then accumulating that function in the report total. The report total field produces an error when the report is run. I have tried to set up a text box in the Report Total section that was based on a separate query to simply add up the BoxSetCost field of the BoxSet table. Apparently that is not possible. So, here is some sample data and the results I am working toward. For raw data like this from the query driving the report: FilmBoxSet FilmCostBoxSetCost 1 A 2.000.00 2 B 0.003.00 3 B 0.003.00 The report total section should show Total FilmCost of 2.00 and Total BoxSetCost of 3.00. Does anyone have any ideas on how to make this work? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Totals-in-Base-Report-tp4067292.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Draw printing of large plans
I am having another, yet related, problem. The drawing is larger than 8.5 x 11. When I display it on the screen, there is a grayed portrait double line box, which covers the same area that is printed, on the screen. I thought that was the page pane. Not so, turning it on/off in the View menu has no effect. Looking up 'page pane' in Help sends me to a different help location. I cannot 'edit/change' this grayed box. Q: How do I make the entire drawing print using the 'fit to printable page' option. I have tried printing to paper and, using 'print to file', creating a pdf. All that is printed is the area inside this grayed box. tia, John On 07/24/2013 12:42 PM, John R. Sowden wrote: On 07/24/2013 06:41 AM, John R. Sowden wrote: We have created a floor plan, using LO Draw with a scale of 1/8 = 1'. Now we want to take it to Kinko's (Fed Ex) and have it printed for about $4.00 per page. Problem is they cannot print it. A few questions: 1) What is the standard file format (description and file type) for professional drafting? 2) Does LO Draw support this format? 3) If not, is there a work around? 4) Can I print multiple parts of the drawing onto 8.5 x 11.0 paper, then tape them together for a preliminary draft? (I know I can do the taping part, its the printing that is an issue :) )? 5) And , finally, Does the PDF format fit into this issue at all? tia, John -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] SQL-Query Syntax in LO-3.6-Base
Hello, I am trying to define a query in Base like... insert into anwesenheit a1 (select 795,a2.persNr,a2.anwesend,a2.statAnw,a2.abwGrund,a2.mitfahrer,a2.bemerkung from anwesenheit a2 where a2.veranstNr = 796) I get back the following error message: SQL-Status: HY000 Fehler-Code: 1000 syntax error, unexpected $end, expecting BETWEEN or IN or SQL_TOKEN_LIKE What's wrong with my query? Regards Heinrich Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now? Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.1: a landmark for interoperability
Hi :) Now that the 4.1.0 has been properly released you might find the proper release has all the desktop integration sorted out now. it might be worth checking if you are keen and have the time Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org To: annou...@documentfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 13:00 Subject: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.1: a landmark for interoperability The office suite features a large number of improvements which bring compatibility with proprietary and legacy file formats to the next level Berlin, July 25, 2013 - The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 4.1, not only the best but also the most interoperable free office suite ever. LibreOffice 4.1 features a large number of improvements in the area of document compatibility, which increases the opportunities of sharing knowledge with users of proprietary software while retaining the original layout and contents. Interoperability is a key asset for LibreOffice, which is the de facto standard for migrations to free office suites since early 2012. Numerous improvements have been made to Microsoft OOXML import and export filters, as well as to legacy Microsoft Office and RTF file filters. Most of these improvements derive from the fundamental activity of certified developers backing migration projects, based on a professional support agreement. Instrumental for interoperability are also new features such as font embedding in Writer, Calc, Impress and Draw - which helps in retaining the visual aspect when fonts used to produce the document are not installed on the target PC - and import and export functions new in Excel 2013 for ODF OpenFormula compatibility. In addition to interoperability, LibreOffice 4.1 offers a very large number of new features and improvements also in other areas of the suite, which are listed here: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-1-new-features-and-fixes. LibreOffice 4.1 is also importing some AOO features, including the Symphony sidebar, which is considered experimental. LibreOffice developers are working at the integration with the widget layout technique (which will make it dynamically resizeable and consistent with the behaviour of LibreOffice dialog windows). LibreOffice 4.1 arrives at the end of a significant development process, which has just been outlined on the foundation blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-q0. Feature wise, the summary is here: https://www.libreoffice.org/features/why-libreoffice/. In just two months, on September 25, 2013, the LibreOffice community will gather in Italy at the Third LibreOffice Conference, hosted by the Department of Computer Science of Milan State University. More information on the conference web site at the following address: http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en. The Call for Paper is open until Sunday, August 4. Downloading LibreOffice LibreOffice 4.1 is immediately available for download from the following link: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/. Extensions for LibreOffice are available from the following link: http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center. Changelogs are available at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC1 (changed in 4.1.0.1), https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC2 (changed in 4.1.0.2) and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC3 (changed in 4.1.0.3) and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC4 (changed in 4.1.0.4). Support The Document Foundation LibreOffice users, free software advocates and community members can support The Document Foundation with a donation at http://donate.libreoffice.org. Money collected will be used to grow the infrastructure, and support marketing activities to increase the awareness of the project, both at global and local level. Short link to post on TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-qn. -- Italo Vignoli - Director italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org mob +39.348.5653829 - sip it...@libreoffice.org The Document Foundation Zimmerstraße 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal Details: www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: announce+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: SQL-Query Syntax in LO-3.6-Base
Le 25/07/13 18:54, Heinrich Stoellinger a écrit : Hi Heinrich, What's wrong with my query? Which db engine are you using ? Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with two issue I am finding in LO
It is not suficient. If I copy the input line and past to the input line of a new cell the cell references stay the same. Not so if I copy a cell. CMD-C works on the mac. On linux highlighting the line copies it to clipboard and middle click pastes it. Steve On 25/07/13 7:50 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote: Hi Andrew, I agree regarding the calc issue. I tried this on 4.0.4.2 under Fedora and 4.0.0.3 portable under Windows. Neither allow you to right click on the input line. As you noted, CTRL-C works. So, I cranked up LO3.6.2.2 under XP. Same. The only thing I noticed is that you can right click on the cell itself. No need to go up to the input line. I wonder if this is deemed to be sufficient. Cheers On 07/24/2013 06:26 PM, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Everyone Well this is now my turn to ask for some help, and to see if any of you have or are experiencing these issues. This applies to both my Windows version, and Ubuntu Raring versions of LO, so a common occurrence. And it has persisted since I migrated over to LO. Your responses will assist me before I send this as a bug report, missing feature. In Calc, I cannot copy and paste any data content out of the input line at the top i.e. right click the mouse and copy using the now non existent drop down menu. This goes for an existing spreadsheet or creating a new one. In the past, not sure if it was early versions of LO Calc, or OOo Calc, but I could do this, no problems. I copy from a lot of pricelists and other similiar type spreadsheets, and paste into order sheets or directly into emails for my business, and I find now the only workaround is to highlight the content and Ctrl c to copy it, or using the menu Edit. This needs to be looked at and added as a feature, or returned as a feature. MS Office Excel has always allowed this as well. This next one is in Writer, and many of my clients have this issue as well, and I feel this is a major failure or feature exclusion. Writer cannot handle the copy and paste of multiple image files, such as photos etc, and then automatically space them one below the other. Many of my clients are in the field as motor vehicle assessors and take multiple pictures of vehicle repairs (up to about twenty per vehicle), process them to reduce their physical size, then paste them into a word processor and compile into a PDF before emailing to the insurance houses. MS Office can do this and has always done this with no issues whatsoever, but LO Writer simply dumps the images one on top of the other, with a lot of unnecessary work to have to drag and place each image in order below the previous one. And this is not consistent, sometimes Writer fails with a lot of photos (noticeably more than five). This lack of feature is now forcing many of my customers to return to MSO, and I feel it needs to be addressed and fixed. Regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: SQL-Query Syntax in LO-3.6-Base
Le 25/07/13 18:54, Heinrich Stoellinger a écrit : Hi Heinrich, insert into anwesenheit a1 (select 795,a2.persNr,a2.anwesend,a2.statAnw,a2.abwGrund,a2.mitfahrer,a2.bemerkung from anwesenheit a2 where a2.veranstNr = 796) http://www.hsqldb.org/doc/guide/ch09.html#insert-section Don't you need to tell your db that you have VALUES to insert ? Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Draw printing of large plans
Something else. I clicked on Format - 'Fit object to paper format', then 'letter' in paper format went from blue to gray. After closing the menu, I reclicked on it and the box was unchecked, and the 'letter' option was again blue. No mention of anything strange in Help. John On 07/25/2013 09:45 AM, John R. Sowden wrote: I am having another, yet related, problem. The drawing is larger than 8.5 x 11. When I display it on the screen, there is a grayed portrait double line box, which covers the same area that is printed, on the screen. I thought that was the page pane. Not so, turning it on/off in the View menu has no effect. Looking up 'page pane' in Help sends me to a different help location. I cannot 'edit/change' this grayed box. Q: How do I make the entire drawing print using the 'fit to printable page' option. I have tried printing to paper and, using 'print to file', creating a pdf. All that is printed is the area inside this grayed box. tia, John On 07/24/2013 12:42 PM, John R. Sowden wrote: On 07/24/2013 06:41 AM, John R. Sowden wrote: We have created a floor plan, using LO Draw with a scale of 1/8 = 1'. Now we want to take it to Kinko's (Fed Ex) and have it printed for about $4.00 per page. Problem is they cannot print it. A few questions: 1) What is the standard file format (description and file type) for professional drafting? 2) Does LO Draw support this format? 3) If not, is there a work around? 4) Can I print multiple parts of the drawing onto 8.5 x 11.0 paper, then tape them together for a preliminary draft? (I know I can do the taping part, its the printing that is an issue :) )? 5) And , finally, Does the PDF format fit into this issue at all? tia, John -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
Hi :) You translated plenty. i just don't know how to do any of that! I think Regina gave an excellent response. At least i see a message from her in my inbox and she is usually excellent. Did she solve it already? Regards from Tom :) From: masterman digi...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 13:15 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering Ok Tom, It's the partially translated template, I was speaking about. iust_translated_english_template_for_thesis_final_(nazanin)_writable.doc http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4067241/iust_translated_english_template_for_thesis_final_%28nazanin%29_writable.doc Because of lack of time I only translated Chapter 1 and Chpater 2. I also translated the used paragraph styles and put '_' in front of those translated paragraph styles. (e.g. _Chpater, _Fig_Caption, etc.). Some digits are still in Farsi. (۱۲۳۴۵۶۷۸۹۰=1234567890) As I described in the translated Chapter 2, the Numberings are incorrect. You can see the incorrect numberings plus the expected correct numberings above each Fig, Table or Formula. The main reason for numberings being incorrect is Tools-Outline_Numbering not being flexible enough. If Tools-Outline_Numbering in LO Writer was as flexible as Multilevel List Numberings of MS Word (as you can see in http://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/word-2007-taming-multilevel-list-numbering/) this problem could be fixed. After seeing this document if you still has any question about the reason of this incorrect numberings in LO Writer, don't hesitate to ask. Likewise, if you have any idea or possible solution I'll be more than glad to know. Best, Sina Momken -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Customizing-Number-Format-of-each-level-in-Writer-Tools-Outline-Numbering-tp4067168p4067241.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering
Hi :) Ahh, found Regina's answer and copied it directly to you. I am not sure how you are still not properly subscribed to the mailing list but yet ARE able to post to Nabble! Congrats on doing that btw and if you find out how you did it please let the rest of us know because it could be about the best way to view this mailing list!! :) Thanks, congrats (well, partial congrats) and regards from Tom :) From: Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 12:59 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering snip / You do the outline numbering with Chapter, Heading 1 , ... with normal outline numbering. You need to define a paragraph style Chapter and alter the assignment between paragraph style and level in the outline numbering dialog. LibreOffice uses the field Number range for numbering in captions. Therefore these are not at all in the outline numbering. But when you insert a caption to a table or figure, you will see a Options-buttons. There you can tell LibreOffice to count newly for each chapter. The caption item in the context menu is only a shortened way to set a caption. You can also write your own caption inserting the field Number range manually. That will be the right way for numbering formulas. The Autotext FN puts the formula and the formula-numbering in a table. I would not use it, because it is not easily possible to move paragraphs, when the movement crosses a table. I would position the formula number using a tab. For display formulas in own paragraphs you can define a suitable paragraph style. The captions are normal paragraphs, so you can add the needed brackets manually as you need them. Each Number range will generate its own index later on. The numbers of the outline can be inserted using fields. Do not try to mimic the way things are done in Word, the concepts are different. But you can be sure, that you can write well formatted academic papers in LibreOffice. Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] colorize cell background automatically
Hi, i already asked this question, but i've never received any answer, so i'm asking it again. i have several cells with hexa value of a RGB color like that: in A1: #aacc99 in A2: #997733 and i would like to colorize the background of B1 with color defined in A1, and B2 with color defined in A2. is there something like : B1 = RGB(A1) ? or something similar ? thx. Alain -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: SQL-Query Syntax in LO-3.6-Base
Hi Alex, This query (ommitting the ) has been working perfectly for years when issued from the mysql command-line client. It is correct SQL syntax... Regards H On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:45:24 +0200, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote: Le 25/07/13 18:54, Heinrich Stoellinger a écrit : Hi Heinrich, insert into anwesenheit a1 (select 795,a2.persNr,a2.anwesend,a2.statAnw,a2.abwGrund,a2.mitfahrer,a2.bemerkung from anwesenheit a2 where a2.veranstNr = 796) http://www.hsqldb.org/doc/guide/ch09.html#insert-section Don't you need to tell your db that you have VALUES to insert ? Alex -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with two issue I am finding in LO
Hi Andrew, I just had a look at the writer issue. Keeping it simple I downloaded 2 images from the web into my downloads folder. I opened a new writer document, went to my file browser and selected both images (FWIW a jpg a gif). When I pasted into writer the 2nd image was pasted on top of the first. Is that what you see? I expected to see the images separated in some way. Cheers On 07/25/2013 06:13 PM, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Tim Ok, at least I have a comrade with the same observation and non function. Yes I am aware of the cell right click, but I suppose force of continuous habit on my behalf in using this in the input line, and a family raised from school level on MSO, as well as my wife very proficient in MSO, all pointed this out to me. So I find it not sufficient to leave it out, as I said it works in other versions of spreadsheet programs, so why not LO. Have you tried the Writer issue I have, with pasting multiple images into it, try it. Another program non-feature/problem that needs to be fixed. Thanks for the feedback. Andrew Brown On 25/07/2013 09:50 AM, Tim Lloyd wrote: Hi Andrew, I agree regarding the calc issue. I tried this on 4.0.4.2 under Fedora and 4.0.0.3 portable under Windows. Neither allow you to right click on the input line. As you noted, CTRL-C works. So, I cranked up LO3.6.2.2 under XP. Same. The only thing I noticed is that you can right click on the cell itself. No need to go up to the input line. I wonder if this is deemed to be sufficient. Cheers On 07/24/2013 06:26 PM, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Everyone Well this is now my turn to ask for some help, and to see if any of you have or are experiencing these issues. This applies to both my Windows version, and Ubuntu Raring versions of LO, so a common occurrence. And it has persisted since I migrated over to LO. Your responses will assist me before I send this as a bug report, missing feature. In Calc, I cannot copy and paste any data content out of the input line at the top i.e. right click the mouse and copy using the now non existent drop down menu. This goes for an existing spreadsheet or creating a new one. In the past, not sure if it was early versions of LO Calc, or OOo Calc, but I could do this, no problems. I copy from a lot of pricelists and other similiar type spreadsheets, and paste into order sheets or directly into emails for my business, and I find now the only workaround is to highlight the content and Ctrl c to copy it, or using the menu Edit. This needs to be looked at and added as a feature, or returned as a feature. MS Office Excel has always allowed this as well. This next one is in Writer, and many of my clients have this issue as well, and I feel this is a major failure or feature exclusion. Writer cannot handle the copy and paste of multiple image files, such as photos etc, and then automatically space them one below the other. Many of my clients are in the field as motor vehicle assessors and take multiple pictures of vehicle repairs (up to about twenty per vehicle), process them to reduce their physical size, then paste them into a word processor and compile into a PDF before emailing to the insurance houses. MS Office can do this and has always done this with no issues whatsoever, but LO Writer simply dumps the images one on top of the other, with a lot of unnecessary work to have to drag and place each image in order below the previous one. And this is not consistent, sometimes Writer fails with a lot of photos (noticeably more than five). This lack of feature is now forcing many of my customers to return to MSO, and I feel it needs to be addressed and fixed. Regards -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating non-printable pages in Writer
At 16:49 25/07/2013 +0100, Thom Brown wrote: I have a Writer template (OTT) that I wish colleagues to use, but I would like the first couple pages to contain instructions on how to use the template. Naturally I wouldn't want these to be printed or exported to a PDF. Is there any way to mark pages as unprintable/non-exportable in a template so that I don't have to include an instruction to users to delete those 2 pages before exporting? I don't want to mark just the text as non-printable as this will still occupy space, and I also have a header and footer that would be produced on those 2 pages anyway. I don't know any simple way to do this. You are basically scuppered, I think, by the WYSIWYG principle: anything you don't want printed won't display - at least by default - and it's assumed that you will want anything that does display to be printed. The best I can suggest is to mark the text as hidden (which you can do in various ways). Then you have to tell the users to tick the option at Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Writer | Formatting Aids | Display of | Hidden text, and also to switch on the display of non-printing characters. The option at Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Writer | Print | Contents | Hidden text needs to be unticked, but that should be so by default. I don't think headers and footers on the corresponding pages are any problem: if the text of the pages is not printed, then there will be no pages for the headers and footers to appear on and they will be suppressed too. Page Preview will correctly show the material to be printed - and yes: this works equally for exporting to PDF. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] 4.0.3
Hi, I was using 4.0.2 and then I downloaded 4.0.3 but 4.0.3 is not as stable as 4.0.2. So, now I am downloading 4.0.4. I am more interested in stable and feature rich (optional) software rather than frequently released software. Stablility is very important because a non-stable software / software having many bugs results in loss of time and frustartion. Amit -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
