[users] Calc Lack of Printer Options and Write FAX pdf file name.

2008-11-06 Thread Hans Malmberg

Hello.

My system is MacOS X 10.5.5,
OpenOffice 3.0.0  OOO300m9 (Build:9358)

My problem(s).

No1:
Working with a spreadsheet I do mark an area that I want to be printed  
instead of the whole sheet.

I do not get the chance to select Print Marked Area Only

That option did show up before I had installed a printer, after  
installing the printer

 I can not find the option to print  Print Marked Area Only.

Anyone have a suggestion?

No2:

Using the printer option to send a pdf by fax using the Mac system a  
Write document
is faxed, BUT the statistics of sent faxes displayes the document with  
no file name
in the fax list. This is a problem as I then do not know what document  
has been faxed.


Using MS Word however the file name of the document is displayed in  
the sent fax list.


I assume this is a problem to be solved by the developers.

Best regards,

/Hans.


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[users] Open Office 3.0

2008-11-06 Thread Uwe Jonescheit
Hallo OpenOffice- Team,

kann es Euch anbieten mit High Speed- download die Version 3 in German zum
download mit zur Verfügung zu stellen.


Viele Grüsse,
  Uwe Jonescheit

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Re: [users] Auto Spell check bug

2008-11-06 Thread Juan Ortega
On Thursday 30 October 2008 11:21:02 you wrote:
 Hi,

 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 18:52, Harold Fuchs wrote:
  On 29/10/2008 17:41, Juan Ortega wrote:
 
  snip
 
  When checking the paragraph style on the font tab, the language next to
  English(USA) doesn't have ABC (checkmark) does that mean the
  dictionary is not installed?
 
  Yes.

 ... in addition ...

  {...] I tried all that, and every extention I try to add an error
  comes up saying bad transfer url

 Could you please specify this error message?

 ... and please remember -
 you had a look at this link? -

 quote
 Hello Juan,

 maybe this tutorial can help:
 http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=67

 Guy
 /quote


 (1) Please check your installed dictionaries.
 The default dictionaries for the en-US version should be:
 en - fr - es  ...

 (2) ... there is explained how it should work  -
 Software Specification Document -
 Set Language Attribute for Text
 http://specs.openoffice.org/appwide/linguistic/Set_Language_Attribute_for_
Text.odt

 (3) ... and there are some test case  -
 OpenOffice.org - Testcase specification
 Testname: Set Language Attribute for Text
 http://qa.openoffice.org/ooQAReloaded/TestcaseSpecifications/OpenOffice.or
g_2.4/Word_Processor/Set_Language_Attribute_for_Text.html

 Manfred

I haven't noticed before but when I start the program in xterm this comes up

I18N: Operating system doesn't support locale en_US

The OS (FreeBSD) can't find the dictionary? or it's not supported?

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[users] open office 3.0.0 beta

2008-11-06 Thread Martin Graedel

Guten Tag

Mein System: Mac OS 10.4.11.Miuss die Beta-Version 3.0.0 auf meinem  
Mac aktualisiert werden? Wenn ja, womit? Sollte gegebenenfalls vor  
einem Download die Beta-Version entfernt werden?


Vielen Dank für die Unterstützung.
Gruss

Martin Graedel-Jaddou
Pfrundstrassse 28
3176 Neuenegg

Tel./AB: 031 741 41 22




[users] Questions on product

2008-11-06 Thread suzanne guitor

To whom it may concern,
 
I have a new laptop computer and included with it is a ``trial`` Microsoft 
Office software that I can open so many times before I am asked for the product 
key.  I would like to know if I need to remove this ``trial`` software before I 
download your product.   If I don't remove it can they interfere with one 
another?  Thank you.
 
Suzanne Guitor
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[users] pricelist for open office license

2008-11-06 Thread Dirk Fritzen
Dear all,

 

We are a company with 120 - 150 employees.

For some employees (5-10) we need to have open office portable.

 

Can you send us a pricelist for license, please?

 

Best regards, 


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[users] regarding open office

2008-11-06 Thread André Lövgren
Hello

I would like to distribute open office on burned discs.

Is this possible or illegal? I sell laptops and would like to deliver them
with openoffice for free.

OK? or not?

Best regards


[users] Pls help, Data type changed when use Openoffice Spreadsheet

2008-11-06 Thread ta thuy
Dear sir/madam,

I have a question about using open office spread sheet. I used google to find 
out the answer but I can't. And I find your website, so please help me in this 
situation.
 
My question is very simple, but I don't know how to fix it.
It is when I type, for example, 3.3.3 into one cell of a sheet, it changed into 
03/03/03 (mean March 03rd 2003).
I tried many ways to change it to 3.3.3 but I can't.
 
So please help me about this, I thank you very much for your consideration.
 
Thuy Ta - From VietNam.



  

[users] What is open office?

2008-11-06 Thread Phyllis Myers
I do not remember joining open office.  How did this come about?  I am clearing 
icons off of my desktop and open office was one of them.  Can you be of help?
Thank You,
Phyllis M

[users] Question about Calc

2008-11-06 Thread John M Collins
Thanks for the answer to my question about Calc - this did the trick

In answer to Steve's question about why I should want to do this, I
think it was partly answered but the specific cases I wanted it for
were:


 1. I'd got some invoices to do and in many cases the only change
from last year was replace some line items with
=ROUND(last_years_price * (1 + inflation_rate);2) The trouble is
I did that last year and the formula started to look ridiculous,
besides which inflation_rate was different. I suppose I could
have done it by making inflation_rate some cumulative value
but it seemed easiest to start from plain numbers. Or I could
have had last year's invoice on one worksheet with a reference
to the line item for that in another worksheet.
 2. I had to make some high-level adjustments to our accounts for
end of year audit and in some cases I had to move sums between
the debit and credit column, so for example row A had X
subtracted from the debit column row B had Y added to the debit
column and row C had X-Y subtracted from the credit column. I
wanted the values to be the correct final values not a whole
string of corrections especially as the formulae involved plain
numbers and no cell references.
 3. Same task - we have most accounts in GBP, some in USD and some
in Euro. When conversions have been done at certain points of
the year, the rate that applied on that day rather than the rate
at the end end of the year had to be used.

In all cases the easiest thing seemed to me to be to just replace the
column with the numeric value once I was happy it was right. I could
have probably done it by having a considerably more complicated
spreadsheet in each case but it seemed pointless in the circumstances.


John Collins Xi Software Ltd www.xisl.com



Re: [users] SUBSCRIPTION

2008-11-06 Thread Guy Voets
2008/11/3 njm [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I would like to subscribe to this list but I can't find any form to fill
 in.
 I enclose my personals:
 Mr. Johnny Mansson


Hello Johnny,

To subscribe send a mail (may be empty, no subject needed) to
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and reply to the automatic response you'll receive.
It may be wise to create a separate email account for this list, since
you'll receive 20, 30 or more mails per day. I have a (free) gmail account
for all things about OpenOffice.org and other list like this. It gives you
lots of space, so you don't aven have to throw away OOo help that might be
useful later.
-- 
Guy
using dutch OOo Aqua 3.0.0 on a iMac Intel DualCore Tiger
and brazilian OOo Aqua 3.0.0 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard
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Dodoes can't afford to have headaches


Re: [users] What is open office?

2008-11-06 Thread Guy Voets
2008/11/6 Phyllis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I do not remember joining open office.  How did this come about?  I am
 clearing icons off of my desktop and open office was one of them.  Can you
 be of help?
 Thank You,
 Phyllis M


Hello Phyllis,

You don't have to join OpenOffice.org.
OpenOffice.org is a complete office suite with text manipulation,
spreadsheet, presentation program, database program etc.
It is an Open Source program, which makes it free of charge, free to
distribute and to use.
You can find all relevant information at www.openoffice.org

I don't know how OpenOffice.org got onto your computer. Maybe the shop you
got it from installed it, since it's free and a good substitute for
expensive proprietary office suites like MS Office.

Why not give it a try before throwing it into the trashbin?
You can always get help on this list.

-- 
Guy
using dutch OOo Aqua 3.0.0 on a iMac Intel DualCore Tiger
and brazilian OOo Aqua 3.0.0 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard
-- please reply only to users@openoffice.org --
Dodoes can't afford to have headaches


Re: [users] Pls help, Data type changed when use Openoffice Spreadsheet

2008-11-06 Thread Rob Clement

ta thuy wrote:

Dear sir/madam,

I have a question about using open office spread sheet. I used google to find 
out the answer but I can't. And I find your website, so please help me in this 
situation.
 
My question is very simple, but I don't know how to fix it.

It is when I type, for example, 3.3.3 into one cell of a sheet, it changed into 
03/03/03 (mean March 03rd 2003).
I tried many ways to change it to 3.3.3 but I can't.
 
So please help me about this, I thank you very much for your consideration.
 
Thuy Ta - From VietNam.




  

Hi Thuy Ta

The answer is simple, this is an automatic feature within spreadsheets 
to try and detect the difference between dates, pure numbers and 
character strings. My recommendation would be to type this string as 
'3.3.3 as the ' (a single quote mark) tells a spreadsheet program that 
what follows is a string of characters and not a number.


I hope that helps

Rob

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Re: [users] Install dictionaries in Ooo 3.0

2008-11-06 Thread Carlos Martinez

Hi, ANDIS
I have visited the link for extensions.services...etc and I didn´t fine a 
Spanish dictionary with thesuarus and  synonims att all. Do you know where I 
can fine them?

Many thanks Carlos.
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Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [users] Install dictionaries in Ooo 3.0



Hi!

You have to go to
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/taxonomy/term/231 and download
appropriate directory. In windows it might be associated with
Openoffice.org extension manager, thus you just need to confirm
installation during download. Other way is to save dictionary file on
your computer hard disk drive and then open it through Openoffice.org
Tools menu (Tools -- Extension manager... -- Add...) and browse to
location, where you saved dictionary file.

Andis



Carlos Martinez wrote:
Dear friends, after I hade made the uppdate of Ooo 2.0.3 to Ooo 3. I 
loosed the dictionaries I´ve installed in the older version. I´m 
running Ooo 3 (In Swedish). under Windows XP. But..When I tryto use the 
installer DicOOo found in 
http://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/dictionaries/dicooo/DicOOo.sxw , 
it works with the older versions, but not with 3.0.
If there are somebody who knows How I could install a  Spanish dictionary 
in the Swedish version of Ooo 3.0 I´d appreciate this help.

Sincerelly Carlos.



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[users] Saving dta on a samba-share

2008-11-06 Thread Dieter Treichel
We are using staroffice 8 and openoffice 2 since 2006 on about 300 pc in
my school. The users are saving their data on their personal
samba-share.
Now we want to change to OO-3 and have the problem, that no user is able
to save data in his/her home-share. Cause is the new behaviour of open
office, to create a temporary file like .lockFilename.

.Filename-files are vorbidden (veto file statement in the smb.conf ) for
this share.

Is there any possibility to change the standard name for the temporary
files (they should not begin with a dot) ?

Is it possibe to change the path for the temporary files without
changing the path to the working directory ?


Dieter
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Re: [users] regarding open office

2008-11-06 Thread Guy Voets
2008/11/5 André Lövgren [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hello

 I would like to distribute open office on burned discs.

 Is this possible or illegal? I sell laptops and would like to deliver them
 with openoffice for free.

 OK? or not?

 Best regards



Hello André,

It's perfectly legal and even encouraged to distribute OpenOffice.org,
either on CD or already installed on computers. Read the licence info here:
http://www.openoffice.org/license.html

-- 
Guy
using dutch OOo Aqua 3.0.0 on a iMac Intel DualCore Tiger
and brazilian OOo Aqua 3.0.0 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard
-- please reply only to users@openoffice.org --
Dodoes can't afford to have headaches


Re: [users] Questions on product

2008-11-06 Thread James Knott
suzanne guitor wrote:
 To whom it may concern,
  
 I have a new laptop computer and included with it is a ``trial`` Microsoft 
 Office software that I can open so many times before I am asked for the 
 product key.  I would like to know if I need to remove this ``trial`` 
 software before I download your product.   If I don't remove it can they 
 interfere with one another?  Thank you.
  
   

No, you don't need to remove it, as you can run both on the same
computer.  However, unless you're planning on paying for it, you might
as well remove it.  Just make sure you can open your documents in
OpenOffice first.  You may have to save them in an older format.


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Re: [users] pricelist for open office license

2008-11-06 Thread James Knott
Dirk Fritzen wrote:
 Dear all,

  

 We are a company with 120 - 150 employees.

 For some employees (5-10) we need to have open office portable.

  

 Can you send us a pricelist for license, please?
   
Here's the price list.

$0.

There is no charge for using OpenOffice.org on as many computers as you
wish.  You can even pass it around to friends and family.  Incidentally,
the portable version, available from portableapps.com, is a separate
project, based on OpenOffice.org.  However, it's the same license and 
also free.  While both OpenOffice.org and the portableapps version are
free of charge, donations are always welcome.


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Re: [users] Bulleting in OOo3 broken?

2008-11-06 Thread Naz

Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
A reference implementation is used as a definitive interpretation for 
that specification.  This helps to discover errors and ambiguities in 
the specification. It is very difficult to fully specify anything, and 
at least with a reference implementation, you know who is correct.


I frequently see web pages rendered differently depending on the web 
browser used. Which one is correct and accurate? A reference 
implementation would answer that question immediately.


It is clearly important to have a fully and correctly specified 
system, but that does not remove the helpfulness of a reference 
implementation.


I only vaguely remember the precise behavior that you use to claim 
that a destructive edit exists. Did I consider it a bug? Yes! Now, 
which behavior is correct?


In this context, however, the first issue of discussion seems to be 
the ODF file format and how it should be rendered. We only care that 
it is always and consistently rendered exactly the same. If I save a 
file, reopen the file, and the rendering has changed, well, where is 
the bug? Is the data properly rendered? Was the data changed on write? 
A reference implementation would help sort that out.


I feel that my point has been missed. With regards to two web pages that 
are rendered differently, assuming that the markup is valid and to spec, 
the answer to the question regarding which is correct is both of them.


My point is that the ODF spec should be like proper use of XHTML strict; 
a rigid and well-defined set of semantic rules with a 1:1 mapping to 
document elements. Were that the case, it wouldn't matter at all if the 
documents were *rendered* differently, as editing them in different apps 
would not result in any semantic irregularities. If I were working on a 
document in OOo and my colleague was working on the same document in 
Abiword, if the ODF specification was properly abstracted, neither of us 
would be any the wiser that the document was rendered differently to the 
other.


- Naz.

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Re: [users] regarding open office

2008-11-06 Thread James Knott
André Lövgren wrote:
 Hello

 I would like to distribute open office on burned discs.

 Is this possible or illegal? I sell laptops and would like to deliver them
 with openoffice for free.

 OK? or not?

 Best regards

   
Yes, you can do that.  You can find the ISO files here:
http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/iso_downoad.html


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Re: [users] Install dictionaries in Ooo 3.0

2008-11-06 Thread Guy Voets
2008/11/6 Carlos Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi, ANDIS
 I have visited the link for extensions.services...etc and I didn´t fine a
 Spanish dictionary with thesuarus and  synonims att all. Do you know where I
 can fine them?
 Many thanks Carlos.


Indeed, Carlos, I only find Argentinian and Mexican blends of Spanish, no
Spanish from Spain...
I have the Spanish word list in my OOo, but I can't find the extension of
it!

-- 
Guy
using dutch OOo Aqua 3.0.0 on a iMac Intel DualCore Tiger
and brazilian OOo Aqua 3.0.0 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard
-- please reply only to users@openoffice.org --
Dodoes can't afford to have headaches


Re: [users] Saving data on a samba-share

2008-11-06 Thread Brian Barker

At 12:08 06/11/2008 +0100, Dieter Treichel wrote:

We are using staroffice 8 and openoffice 2 since 2006 on about 300 pc in
my school. The users are saving their data on their personal
samba-share.
Now we want to change to OO-3 and have the problem, that no user is able
to save data in his/her home-share. Cause is the new behaviour of open
office, to create a temporary file like .lockFilename.

.Filename-files are forbidden (veto file statement in the smb.conf ) for
this share.

Is there any possibility to change the standard name for the temporary
files (they should not begin with a dot) ?

Is it possible to change the path for the temporary files without
changing the path to the working directory ?


I don't know the answer to this, but I can mention another 
disadvantage with the new arrangement.


If I open an OpenOffice document to read it or perhaps to copy 
material from it and then close the document without making changes 
or saving it, the modification date and time on the file are not 
changed.  This is correct.  But the modification date and time on the 
containing folder *are* changed, because two changes have been made 
to it - the creation and then deletion of the lock file.  The folder 
and its contents, though, are just as they were.  This is perhaps 
unhelpful, and could be avoided if the lock files were saved 
somewhere else - perhaps in a common location, as suggested above.


Brian Barker


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Re: [users] What is open office?

2008-11-06 Thread James Knott
Phyllis Myers wrote:
 I do not remember joining open office.  How did this come about?  I am 
 clearing icons off of my desktop and open office was one of them.  Can you be 
 of help?
 Thank You,
 Phyllis M
   
You do not appear to be subscribed to this mail list, so I'm not sure
what you joined.  OpenOffice is an office suite, comparable to and
compatible with Microsoft Office.  It includes word processor and
spreadsheet components, among others.  If it is of no use to you, you
can uninstall it in the same manner as you would uninstall any other
application.  In Windows, there's an Add/Remove software utility in the
Control Panel.  You'd use that to uninstall it.


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Re: [users] Saving data on a samba-share

2008-11-06 Thread Dieter Treichel
Brian Barker wrote:

 At 12:08 06/11/2008 +0100, Dieter Treichel wrote:
 
  We are using staroffice 8 and openoffice 2 since 2006 on about 300
  pc in
  my school. The users are saving their data on their personal
  samba-share.
  Now we want to change to OO-3 and have the problem, that no user is
  able
  to save data in his/her home-share. Cause is the new behaviour of
  open
  office, to create a temporary file like .lockFilename.
  
  .Filename-files are forbidden (veto file statement in the smb.conf )
  for
  this share.
  
  Is there any possibility to change the standard name for the
  temporary
  files (they should not begin with a dot) ?
  
  Is it possible to change the path for the temporary files without
  changing the path to the working directory ?
  

 I don't know the answer to this, but I can mention another
 disadvantage
 with the new arrangement.
 
 If I open an OpenOffice document to read it or perhaps to copy
 material
 from it and then close the document without making changes or saving
 it,
 the modification date and time on the file are not changed. This is
 correct. But the modification date and time on the containing folder
 *are* changed, because two changes have been made to it - the creation
 and then deletion of the lock file. The folder and its contents,
 though, are just as they were. This is perhaps unhelpful, and could be
 avoided if the lock files were saved somewhere else - perhaps in a
 common location, as suggested above.
 

I beg to differ: I don't think that's at all unreasonable behaviour.
Even if you open a file in OOo just to read it, it is nevertheless
opened in r/w mode, and it therefore needs to be locked because the
system can't read the user's mind -- it might be helpful if there were
an open-read-only facility if this is an issue. So the date changes are
correct.

Lock files have to exist alongside the original if they're to be any
use
in a networked environment - different machines may have different
ideas
of the suggested common location.

I think the OP needs to get his samba config changed - that seems to me
to be the real issue. I wasn't actually aware 'dot' files could be
prohibited under samba - and my own OOo v3 running under XP works very
happily using a samba share.

BTW 'dot' files do seem to be a general windows issue: try using
R-click
and New|Text File under explorer to create a file called .xyzzy - it
won't do it (file name needed or some such).

I will try to explain my problem with the dot-Files:
The server is set up to supply windows- and linux-clients. The
linux-clients  needs a lot of dot-files in the homes  of  the user. 
These  files  should not  be visible using the windows-clients. For this
purpose  there  is  the  Veto-file-statement in the  smb.conf-file.  It
has never been a problem before.

I would be glad to get a change in the behaviour of OOo-3.

thanks

Dieter
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Re: [users] Pls help, Data type changed when use Openoffice Spreadsheet

2008-11-06 Thread Brian Barker

At 17:25 04/11/2008 -0800, Thuy Ta wrote:
I have a question about using open office spread sheet. [...]  It is 
when I type, for example, 3.3.3 into one cell of a sheet, it changed 
into 03/03/03 (mean March 03rd 2003).

I tried many ways to change it to 3.3.3 but I can't.



There are two ways to avoid this.  Either:

o  Format the cells as Text before entering the values.  (Go to 
Format | Cells... .)


o  Enter an apostrophe before typing the data.  The apostrophe does 
not appear in the cell, but just indicates that the data should be 
interpreted as text and suppresses the automatic recognition of 
dates.  Note that if you have Custom Quotes set up, the apostrophe 
will itself be corrected into a smart quote and this will prevent it 
being recognised properly.  To avoid this, either press Ctrl+Z (or go 
to Edit | Undo) immediately after typing the apostrophe each time 
(which undoes the correction to smart quote but does not remove the 
apostrophe) or go to Tools | AutoCorrect... | Custom Quotes and 
remove the tick from Replace under Single quotes once (which 
suppresses the unwanted correction).


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[users] Re: Open Office 3.0

2008-11-06 Thread Spiderman

Uwe Jonescheit schrieb:

Hallo OpenOffice- Team,



kann es Euch anbieten mit High Speed- download die Version 3 in German zum
download mit zur Verfügung zu stellen.





Viele Grüsse,

  Uwe Jonescheit

Hi,
wäre sinnvoller in Englisch zu schreiben, da es die englische bzw. 
internationale Newsgroup ist. Sonst kann sein, dass dir keiner antwortet.


Gruß,
Spiderman


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Re: [users] SUBSCRIPTION

2008-11-06 Thread Carlos Martinez
Hej Johnny, om du följer länken till  http://support.openoffice.org/. du 
kommer att få en sida där du hittar en rubrik Free Community Support och 
där efter

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Re: [users] Saving data on a samba-share

2008-11-06 Thread Mike Scott

Brian Barker wrote:

At 12:08 06/11/2008 +0100, Dieter Treichel wrote:

We are using staroffice 8 and openoffice 2 since 2006 on about 300 pc in
my school. The users are saving their data on their personal
samba-share.
Now we want to change to OO-3 and have the problem, that no user is able
to save data in his/her home-share. Cause is the new behaviour of open
office, to create a temporary file like .lockFilename.

.Filename-files are forbidden (veto file statement in the smb.conf ) for
this share.

Is there any possibility to change the standard name for the temporary
files (they should not begin with a dot) ?

Is it possible to change the path for the temporary files without
changing the path to the working directory ?


I don't know the answer to this, but I can mention another disadvantage 
with the new arrangement.


If I open an OpenOffice document to read it or perhaps to copy material 
from it and then close the document without making changes or saving it, 
the modification date and time on the file are not changed.  This is 
correct.  But the modification date and time on the containing folder 
*are* changed, because two changes have been made to it - the creation 
and then deletion of the lock file.  The folder and its contents, 
though, are just as they were.  This is perhaps unhelpful, and could be 
avoided if the lock files were saved somewhere else - perhaps in a 
common location, as suggested above.


I beg to differ: I don't think that's at all unreasonable behaviour. 
Even if you open a file in OOo just to read it, it is nevertheless 
opened in r/w mode, and it therefore needs to be locked because the 
system can't read the user's mind -- it might be helpful if there were 
an open-read-only facility if this is an issue. So the date changes are 
correct.


Lock files have to exist alongside the original if they're to be any use 
in a networked environment - different machines may have different ideas 
of the suggested common location.


I think the OP needs to get his samba config changed - that seems to me 
to be the real issue. I wasn't actually aware 'dot' files could be 
prohibited under samba - and my own OOo v3 running under XP works very 
happily using a samba share.


BTW 'dot' files do seem to be a general windows issue: try using R-click 
and New|Text File under explorer to create a file called .xyzzy - it 
won't do it (file name needed or some such).




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[users] Re: open office 3.0.0 beta

2008-11-06 Thread Spiderman

Martin Graedel schrieb:

Guten Tag

Mein System: Mac OS 10.4.11.Miuss die Beta-Version 3.0.0 auf meinem Mac 
aktualisiert werden? Wenn ja, womit? Sollte gegebenenfalls vor einem 
Download die Beta-Version entfernt werden?


Vielen Dank für die Unterstützung.
Gruss

Martin Graedel-Jaddou
Pfrundstrassse 28
3176 Neuenegg

Tel./AB: 031 741 41 22




Hi,
es wäre sinnvoll die Beta durch die finale Ausgabe zu ersetzen. 
Eleganter is es die Beta vorher zu deinstallieren, aber man kann einfach 
die alte Beta mit der neuen überschreiben bzw. drüber installieren. Ich 
mache das meistens so und hatte bis jetzt keine Probleme. Die stabile 
finale Version wird irgendwo im Downloadbereich von 
http://de.openoffice.org sein. Schau mal hier:

http://de.openoffice.org/downloads/quick.html
Und nicht vergessen JavaScript zu aktiviren, sonst kann man da nichts zu 
download auswählen.


Gruß,
Spiderman


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Re: [users] Questions on product

2008-11-06 Thread Guy Voets
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 suzanne guitor wrote:
  To whom it may concern,
 
  I have a new laptop computer and included with it is a ``trial``
 Microsoft Office software that I can open so many times before I am asked
 for the product key.  I would like to know if I need to remove this
 ``trial`` software before I download your product.   If I don't remove it
 can they interfere with one another?  Thank you.
 
 

 No, you don't need to remove it, as you can run both on the same
 computer.  However, unless you're planning on paying for it, you might
 as well remove it.  Just make sure you can open your documents in
 OpenOffice first.  You may have to save them in an older format.


Hello,

OpenOffice.org 3.0.0 (download from www.openoffice.org) can now read the
newer docx, xlsx and pptx files, and it can save in Open Document format
(odt, ods, odp) as well as in MS Office format (and many others).

-- 
Guy
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and brazilian OOo Aqua 3.0.0 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard
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Dodoes can't afford to have headaches


Re: [users] Saving data on a samba-share

2008-11-06 Thread Mike Scott

Dieter Treichel wrote:
...

I think the OP needs to get his samba config changed - that seems to me
to be the real issue. I wasn't actually aware 'dot' files could be
prohibited under samba - and my own OOo v3 running under XP works very
happily using a samba share.

...

I will try to explain my problem with the dot-Files:
The server is set up to supply windows- and linux-clients. The
linux-clients  needs a lot of dot-files in the homes  of  the user. 
These  files  should not  be visible using the windows-clients. For this

purpose  there  is  the  Veto-file-statement in the  smb.conf-file.  It
has never been a problem before.

I would be glad to get a change in the behaviour of OOo-3.


I see the problem, but you're IMO still tackling the wrong issue. I 
agree dot files are a pain when looking at a samba share - but they are 
classed as hidden files when accessed via samba (at least from XP) - so 
aren't visible unless explorer is showing these. For most users, showing 
hidden files is a bad idea anyway, so explorer should be thus set up. In 
which case it becomes a non-issue.



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Re: [users] Saving data on a samba-share

2008-11-06 Thread Brian Barker

At 13:44 06/11/2008 +, Mike Scott wrote:
I beg to differ: I don't think that's at all unreasonable behaviour. 
Even if you open a file in OOo just to read it, it is nevertheless 
opened in r/w mode, and it therefore needs to be locked because the 
system can't read the user's mind -- it might be helpful if there 
were an open-read-only facility if this is an issue. So the date 
changes are correct.


Sorry, but I think you are missing my point.

o  Of course I realise that the file will be opened in edit mode and 
will be locked and that no software can guess whether I intend to 
edit any file.  (I may not even know!)  I said nothing that could 
possibly have given you the idea that I thought otherwise.


o  You talk about the document file and say the date changes are 
correct.  But - as I explained - there are no changes to the 
modification date of the document file in this case.  A change that 
doesn't exist cannot be called correct.  And it would not be 
correct to show any change in modification date when the file had not 
been modified: that much is obvious.  OpenOffice 3 gets this right by 
*not* making any changes, of course.


o  My point was about the change to the modification date of the 
*containing folder*.  There is no net change to this folder after the 
process, but because an understandable, possibly hidden, temporary 
change has taken place - indeed, as it transpires, unnecessarily - in 
creating and deleting the lock file, the modification date of the 
folder suggests that there has been a change.  This is hardly likely 
to be helpful to users - and very probably confusing.


o  If any such changes were deemed correct, you would want all 
software to make them - and other software doesn't.  In particular, 
you would have been complaining that earlier versions of OpenOffice 
did not do this (irrespective of the reason for it and your 
understanding of this).


Lock files have to exist alongside the original if they're to be any 
use in a networked environment - different machines may have 
different ideas of the suggested common location.


Hmm: yes - very likely!  I rest my case.

BTW 'dot' files do seem to be a general windows issue: try using 
R-click and New|Text File under explorer to create a file called 
.xyzzy - it won't do it (file name needed or some such).


That's because of Windows' continuing interest in file extensions, of 
course: it sees .something as a file with an extension of 
something but no actual file name.


Brian Barker


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Re: [users] open office 3.0.0 beta

2008-11-06 Thread john d. herron



Martin Graedel wrote:

Guten Tag

Mein System: Mac OS 10.4.11.Miuss die Beta-Version 3.0.0 auf meinem 
Mac aktualisiert werden? Wenn ja, womit? Sollte gegebenenfalls vor 
einem Download die Beta-Version entfernt werden?


Vielen Dank für die Unterstützung.
Gruss

Martin Graedel-Jaddou
Pfrundstrassse 28
3176 Neuenegg

Tel./AB: 031 741 41 22



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Re: [users] Open Office 3.0

2008-11-06 Thread john d. herron

Dear Uwe:
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Uwe Jonescheit wrote:

Hallo OpenOffice- Team,

kann es Euch anbieten mit High Speed- download die Version 3 in German zum
download mit zur Verfügung zu stellen.


Viele Grüsse,
  Uwe Jonescheit
  


Re: [users] Install dictionaries in Ooo 3.0

2008-11-06 Thread Javier Rivera
Guy Voets escribió:
 Indeed, Carlos, I only find Argentinian and Mexican blends of Spanish, no
 Spanish from Spain...
 I have the Spanish word list in my OOo, but I can't find the extension of
 it!

You can find an user created extension containing some Spanish Spanish
dictionaries here:

http://ricardo.berlasso.googlepages.com/ooo3

Javier.

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[users] made her day, gave her OOo

2008-11-06 Thread web at work

Yesterday I met a lady visiting her parents in New York State.
She has been living in Israel for the past 20 years.  She loved
recieving a copy of the English version of OpenOffice.org, that
I carry around.  She loved the fact that she could get a free
Hebrew version as well.

She worked in the communication and media field and I believe
that she would spread the word, once she gets home and tries the
English and Hebrew version of 3.0.

Folks.  This is why you should alwayd carry a copy of OpenOffice.org
with you as you go about you life outside you home.  You never
know who you will meet and talk about OpenOffice.org to.

The facts are, if you give someone great free software, and they like/love it,
they will tell others about it, and so on, and so on.  Word of mouth is 
how this project gets more users.  

Spread the word.
Spread the CDs

[She also loved the fact that I would not take money for the CD I gave her.]



Re: [users] Saving dta on a samba-share

2008-11-06 Thread James Finnall
I have seen several replies to this question.   But none seem to address the 
original issue of the creation of the file itself.   It has been my long 
understanding that file locking semantics are _NOT_  part of any data 
application program to start with.So any file for the purpose of file 
locking is totally unwarranted and undesirable.

It is the responsibility of the OS that is providing the file share service to 
adequately protect the file from operations that could cause any form of data 
loss or undesirable results.

My two cents worth.
James



On Thursday 06 November 2008, Dieter Treichel wrote:
 We are using staroffice 8 and openoffice 2 since 2006 on about 300 pc in
 my school. The users are saving their data on their personal
 samba-share.
 Now we want to change to OO-3 and have the problem, that no user is able
 to save data in his/her home-share. Cause is the new behaviour of open
 office, to create a temporary file like .lockFilename.

 .Filename-files are vorbidden (veto file statement in the smb.conf ) for
 this share.

 Is there any possibility to change the standard name for the temporary
 files (they should not begin with a dot) ?

 Is it possibe to change the path for the temporary files without
 changing the path to the working directory ?


 Dieter
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Re: [users] Saving data on a samba-share

2008-11-06 Thread Mike Scott

Brian Barker wrote:

At 13:44 06/11/2008 +, Mike Scott wrote:
I beg to differ: I don't think that's at all unreasonable behaviour. 
Even if you open a file in OOo just to read it, it is nevertheless 
opened in r/w mode, and it therefore needs to be locked because the 
system can't read the user's mind -- it might be helpful if there were 
an open-read-only facility if this is an issue. So the date changes 
are correct.


Sorry, but I think you are missing my point.

o  Of course I realise that the file will be opened in edit mode and 
will be locked and that no software can guess whether I intend to edit 
any file.  (I may not even know!)  I said nothing that could possibly 
have given you the idea that I thought otherwise.


o  You talk about the document file and say the date changes are 
correct.  But - as I explained - there are no changes to the 


Mmmm. That's not what I intended, apologies if I was unclear: I /meant/ 
my comment to refer to date changes on the directory, not the document.


modification date of the document file in this case.  A change that 
doesn't exist cannot be called correct.  And it would not be correct 
to show any change in modification date when the file had not been 
modified: that much is obvious.  OpenOffice 3 gets this right by *not* 
making any changes, of course.


o  My point was about the change to the modification date of the 
*containing folder*.  There is no net change to this folder after the 
process, but because an understandable, possibly hidden, temporary 
change has taken place - indeed, as it transpires, unnecessarily - in 
creating and deleting the lock file, the modification date of the folder 
suggests that there has been a change.  This is hardly likely to be 
helpful to users - and very probably confusing.


Directories can change date for other reasons; I rather doubt anyway 
that most users ever bother to check them, as opposed to /document/ dates.




o  If any such changes were deemed correct, you would want all software 
to make them - and other software doesn't.  In particular, you would 
have been complaining that earlier versions of OpenOffice did not do 
this (irrespective of the reason for it and your understanding of this).


Only if I'd noticed :-)



Lock files have to exist alongside the original if they're to be any 
use in a networked environment - different machines may have different 
ideas of the suggested common location.


Hmm: yes - very likely!  I rest my case.

BTW 'dot' files do seem to be a general windows issue: try using 
R-click and New|Text File under explorer to create a file called 
.xyzzy - it won't do it (file name needed or some such).


That's because of Windows' continuing interest in file extensions, of 
course: it sees .something as a file with an extension of something 
but no actual file name.


One could argue forever over the rights and wrongs of that. I dislike 
XP's approach - because for one thing I can't create a new (unix) dot 
file on the samba share - although, inconsistently, XP will let me open 
an existing one. There's a sure cure though, not so far off now :-)




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[users] Quickstarter in OOo 3.0.0

2008-11-06 Thread Gene Young
Is there a way to stop Quickstarter from loading itself into the system tray everytime I open 
swriter?  I Primarily use swriter and do not like any quickstarters running in the background using 
resources unnecessarily.  I have looked for the way to do this but have, obviously, been unsuccessful.


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Re: [users] regarding open office

2008-11-06 Thread Guy Voets
2008/11/6 André Lövgren [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hello

 Do you know if there is any posibility, when installing a laptop and disc 1
 is ready the machines asks for do you have an aplikation disc -put it in
 now or just restart.

 If we can get an open office application disc we will install all units
 with open office. But we can not enter and register the laptops and thats
 why we need an special aplication disc that will be installed during the
 re-installation of the vista.

 Do you understand hehe? Hard to explain. We distribute 2000 laptops a year
 in Sweden

 Best regards
 André

 2008/11/6 Guy Voets [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 2008/11/5 André Lövgren [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hello

 I would like to distribute open office on burned discs.

 Is this possible or illegal? I sell laptops and would like to deliver
 them
 with openoffice for free.

 OK? or not?

 Best regards



 Hello André,

 It's perfectly legal and even encouraged to distribute OpenOffice.org,
 either on CD or already installed on computers. Read the licence info here:
 http://www.openoffice.org/license.html

 --
 Guy


Hello again,

Please reply _only_ to users@openoffice.org

As James pointed out, you can get the ISO files directly from the
www.openoffice.org website. If you install these on a cd, and have cd1 ask
for this cd, I think it will be OK.
You don't need to register OOo, so why not install it already on the laptop?

-- 
Guy
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and brazilian OOo Aqua 3.0.0 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard
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Dodoes can't afford to have headaches


Re: [users] Quickstarter in OOo 3.0.0

2008-11-06 Thread Gene Young

Gene Young wrote:
Is there a way to stop Quickstarter from loading itself into the system 
tray everytime I open swriter?  I Primarily use swriter and do not like 
any quickstarters running in the background using resources 
unnecessarily.  I have looked for the way to do this but have, 
obviously, been unsuccessful.







Never mind.  I finally found it by accident.  When I unchecked load at startup it stopped loading on 
opening swriter.



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Re: [users] Quickstarter in OOo 3.0.0

2008-11-06 Thread Arnold Huzen

Gene,

Have a look under Extra/Options/Memory. You'll see a tickbox to activate 
the quickstarter. Untick it and it won't start anymore.


Arnold Huzen

Gene Young schreef:
Is there a way to stop Quickstarter from loading itself into the system 
tray everytime I open swriter?  I Primarily use swriter and do not like 
any quickstarters running in the background using resources 
unnecessarily.  I have looked for the way to do this but have, 
obviously, been unsuccessful.




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Re: [users] Install dictionaries in Ooo 3.0

2008-11-06 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi,

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 15:59, Javier Rivera wrote:
 [...]

 You can find an user created extension containing some Spanish Spanish
 dictionaries here:

 http://ricardo.berlasso.googlepages.com/ooo3

 Javier.

Great -
Diccionario español, sinónimos y silábico dict-es_ES.oxt
is working fine ...  :-)

¡muchas gracias! -
Manfred

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[users] Multiple libraries with OOo Base AS 400 ?

2008-11-06 Thread Boris Ratak

Hi,

I'm using OpenOffice Base to connect to our AS400 server through JDBC. 
It works fine, but there's only one problem : We have three libraries 
(databases) and in the connection string, I have to specify one of them. 
Current library is displayed and I can access the other two using some 
text requests. What I would like, is to have all three databases shown 
in Base GUI, to be able to select tables from any of the libraries using 
the common interface.
So basically, I'm using three separate OOBase files to show each library 
structure.


Is it possible to have all libraries displayed ? I thought of specifying 
my three libraries in the connection string, but I don't know if it's 
possible and what the syntax is.


Anyone an idea ?

Thx

B.



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Re: [users] Saving dta on a samba-share

2008-11-06 Thread Mike Scott

James Finnall wrote:
I have seen several replies to this question.   But none seem to address the 
original issue of the creation of the file itself.   It has been my long 
understanding that file locking semantics are _NOT_  part of any data 
application program to start with.So any file for the purpose of file 
locking is totally unwarranted and undesirable.

It is the responsibility of the OS that is providing the file share service to 
adequately protect the file from operations that could cause any form of data 
loss or undesirable results.


A nice idea. But given the way it's been done, I suspect the developers 
had networked machines in mind. I'm pretty sure there's no locking 
mechanism that will work across windows, mac, and assorted flavours of 
un*x on a network - other than a crude lockfile.  It would probably have 
been better though if the file had been named something different.




My two cents worth.
James



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Re: [users] Saving dta on a samba-share

2008-11-06 Thread Robin Laing

James Finnall wrote:
I have seen several replies to this question.   But none seem to address the 
original issue of the creation of the file itself.   It has been my long 
understanding that file locking semantics are _NOT_  part of any data 
application program to start with.So any file for the purpose of file 
locking is totally unwarranted and undesirable.

It is the responsibility of the OS that is providing the file share service to 
adequately protect the file from operations that could cause any form of data 
loss or undesirable results.


My two cents worth.
James



On Thursday 06 November 2008, Dieter Treichel wrote:

We are using staroffice 8 and openoffice 2 since 2006 on about 300 pc in
my school. The users are saving their data on their personal
samba-share.
Now we want to change to OO-3 and have the problem, that no user is able
to save data in his/her home-share. Cause is the new behaviour of open
office, to create a temporary file like .lockFilename.

.Filename-files are vorbidden (veto file statement in the smb.conf ) for
this share.

Is there any possibility to change the standard name for the temporary
files (they should not begin with a dot) ?

Is it possibe to change the path for the temporary files without
changing the path to the working directory ?



There are two issues here.

The OS should be doing locking controls but that can be problematic when 
there are applications that allow concurrent editting.  If the OS does 
all locking then the applications may not work.


Application locking allows finer control of file access.  If the file is 
opened read-only then there is no need for a lock file.


Now is there an option that can be set to enable/disable this feature. 
Yes I call it a feature when using shared document folders to protect 
the documents.


I thought I read about a setting for locking files but I could be 
confused with a different application.



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[users] Problems with Vertical (Portrait) screen orientation

2008-11-06 Thread Alvin Revzin

OpenOffice 3.x is a very interesting product --- which I cannot use.

I prefer to use a vertical, or portrait, screen orientation.  
OpenOffice does not display properly on such a screen - the WP  
documents are stretched vertically and compressed horizontally - the  
latter to the extent that typed in letters overlap. Other OO function  
displays are similarly distorted.


All my other software handles the vertical screen with aplomb --  
including NeoOffice.


I have gone through everything in the Help and Preferences screens  
and found no solutions. Are there any cures or do I go back to  
NeoOffice and Pages?


Thanks,

Al Revzin



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Re: [users] Problems with Vertical (Portrait) screen orientation

2008-11-06 Thread Brian Barker

At 10:39 06/11/2008 -0700, Alvin Revzin wrote:

OpenOffice 3.x is a very interesting product --- which I cannot use.

I prefer to use a vertical, or portrait, screen orientation. 
OpenOffice does not display properly on such a screen - the WP 
documents are stretched vertically and compressed horizontally - the 
latter to the extent that typed in letters overlap. Other OO 
function displays are similarly distorted.


All my other software handles the vertical screen with aplomb -- 
including NeoOffice.


I have gone through everything in the Help and Preferences 
screens and found no solutions. Are there any cures or do I go back 
to NeoOffice and Pages?


You appear to be using a Mac.  There are existing reports of similar issues:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=89320
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=94377

You may wish to vote for or to add detail to these.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] made her day, gave her OOo

2008-11-06 Thread James Knott

web at work wrote:

Yesterday I met a lady visiting her parents in New York State.
She has been living in Israel for the past 20 years.  She loved
recieving a copy of the English version of OpenOffice.org, that
I carry around.  She loved the fact that she could get a free
Hebrew version as well.

She worked in the communication and media field and I believe
that she would spread the word, once she gets home and tries the
English and Hebrew version of 3.0.

Folks.  This is why you should alwayd carry a copy of OpenOffice.org
with you as you go about you life outside you home.  You never
know who you will meet and talk about OpenOffice.org to.

The facts are, if you give someone great free software, and they like/love it,
they will tell others about it, and so on, and so on.  Word of mouth is 
how this project gets more users.  


Spread the word.
Spread the CDs

[She also loved the fact that I would not take money for the CD I gave her.]




I carry a copy of OpenOffice, along with a few other apps, on a pen 
drive that I always carry in my pocket.  I also carry a pen drive with 
the portable apps version installed on it.



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Re: [users] Quickstarter in OOo 3.0.0

2008-11-06 Thread James Knott

Gene Young wrote:
Is there a way to stop Quickstarter from loading itself into the system 
tray everytime I open swriter?  I Primarily use swriter and do not like 
any quickstarters running in the background using resources 
unnecessarily.  I have looked for the way to do this but have, 
obviously, been unsuccessful.




Click on Tools  Options.  Select OpenOffice.org  Memory and then turn 
off the quickstarter.


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[users] Re: Install dictionaries in Ooo 3.0

2008-11-06 Thread Larry Gusaas

Guy Voets wrote:

2008/11/6 Carlos Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  

Hi, ANDIS
I have visited the link for extensions.services...etc and I didn´t fine a
Spanish dictionary with thesuarus and  synonims att all. Do you know where I
can fine them?
Many thanks Carlos.




Indeed, Carlos, I only find Argentinian and Mexican blends of Spanish, no
Spanish from Spain...
I have the Spanish word list in my OOo, but I can't find the extension of
it!
  


I have the US English version of OO.o 3.0. It came with a Spanish 
dictionary. Also with French as well as US, GB and ZA versions of 
English dictionaries.


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[users] Updating ranges after inserting line

2008-11-06 Thread Adam Victor Nazareth Brandizzi
Hi, people!

I have a spreadsheet with a list of values, let's say, at the interval
B2:B8. At B9, I have the formula =SUM(B2:B8). If I insert a new row
between B8 and B9, the formula at the now B10 cell is not updated.

Is there a simple way to make this formula automatically update
itself? I'm leaving a blank row between the last value and the sum
cell; I believe I could do some black magic with info functions and
such; also, I know I could use macros, but I'm looking for something
easier, since I'm going to teach it.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [users] Updating ranges after inserting line

2008-11-06 Thread Arnold Huzen
I usually keep an empty row or column between the data and the cell 
containing the formula if I expect that I wil insert rows or columns in 
the future. In the formula I include the empty cell. If I then need to 
insert a new cell in the range it will also extend the formula.


In your example I would have the data in B2:B8, leave B9 blank and put 
the formula =SUM(B2:B9) in B10.


As you do this you must keep in mind what the formula does that you use. 
In the above example it works just fine, because an empty cell makes no 
difference to the result. But in other functions that might be different.


Arnold Huzen


Adam Victor Nazareth Brandizzi schreef:

Hi, people!

I have a spreadsheet with a list of values, let's say, at the interval
B2:B8. At B9, I have the formula =SUM(B2:B8). If I insert a new row
between B8 and B9, the formula at the now B10 cell is not updated.

Is there a simple way to make this formula automatically update
itself? I'm leaving a blank row between the last value and the sum
cell; I believe I could do some black magic with info functions and
such; also, I know I could use macros, but I'm looking for something
easier, since I'm going to teach it.

Thanks in advance!



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RE: [users] Updating ranges after inserting line

2008-11-06 Thread Anthony Chilco

Hi Adam,
If you add the row between b7 and b8, then the formula will update the range. 
If you plan to add rows, set up the sum with an empty row at the bottom and 
include it in the sum range. Adding rows above the empty row will cause the 
formula range to change.
tc

 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:12:53 -0200
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 Subject: [users] Updating ranges after inserting line
 
 Hi, people!
 
 I have a spreadsheet with a list of values, let's say, at the interval
 B2:B8. At B9, I have the formula =SUM(B2:B8). If I insert a new row
 between B8 and B9, the formula at the now B10 cell is not updated.
 
 Is there a simple way to make this formula automatically update
 itself? I'm leaving a blank row between the last value and the sum
 cell; I believe I could do some black magic with info functions and
 such; also, I know I could use macros, but I'm looking for something
 easier, since I'm going to teach it.
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
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 http://brandizzi.googlepages.com/
 
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[users] Re: What is open office?

2008-11-06 Thread Twayne
 Phyllis Myers wrote:
 I do not remember joining open office.  How did this come about?  I
 am clearing icons off of my desktop and open office was one of them.
 Can you be of help? Thank You,
 Phyllis M

 You do not appear to be subscribed to this mail list, so I'm not sure
 what you joined.  OpenOffice is an office suite, comparable to and
 compatible with Microsoft Office.  It includes word processor and
 spreadsheet components, among others.  If it is of no use to you, you
 can uninstall it in the same manner as you would uninstall any other
 application.  In Windows, there's an Add/Remove software utility in
 the Control Panel.  You'd use that to uninstall it.

IF it's installed.  Since it's on the desktop, it might only the long 
forgotten install files.  Control Panel's Add or Remove Programs should 
show it as Open Office  if it was installed.  If it is not there then it 
likely was never installed.  Check Start; Programs - if it's not there 
either, it's pretty surely not installed, in which case all that needs 
to be done is to delete those files on the desktop.

Right James/Guy?  Or did I miss something?

Just thought I'd add my 2 ¢ because I recently came across an almost 
identical question from a neighbor; it was downloaded but never 
installed and then forgotten for awhile.

Regrards.

Twayne




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Re: [users] Updating ranges after inserting line

2008-11-06 Thread John Mary Linge
I handle this problem by filling the empty row with dashes or equal signs to
remind me that the row is a non-data row. Then I name the range from the
head of the column to the dashed line based on the type of data in the
column (e.g., Miles) and then make the  formula in the sum line
=SUM(Miles). When I need to add a new row of data, I just add the row above
the dashed line and the named range automatically updates itself.

I hope this helps.

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Adam Victor Nazareth Brandizzi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, people!

 I have a spreadsheet with a list of values, let's say, at the interval
 B2:B8. At B9, I have the formula =SUM(B2:B8). If I insert a new row
 between B8 and B9, the formula at the now B10 cell is not updated.

 Is there a simple way to make this formula automatically update
 itself? I'm leaving a blank row between the last value and the sum
 cell; I believe I could do some black magic with info functions and
 such; also, I know I could use macros, but I'm looking for something
 easier, since I'm going to teach it.

 Thanks in advance!

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Re: [users] Updating ranges after inserting line

2008-11-06 Thread Adam Victor Nazareth Brandizzi
Thanks all for the responses!

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Arnold Huzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I usually keep an empty row or column between the data and the cell
 containing the formula if I expect that I wil insert rows or columns in the
 future. In the formula I include the empty cell. If I then need to insert a
 new cell in the range it will also extend the formula.

 In your example I would have the data in B2:B8, leave B9 blank and put the
 formula =SUM(B2:B9) in B10.

 As you do this you must keep in mind what the formula does that you use. In
 the above example it works just fine, because an empty cell makes no
 difference to the result. But in other functions that might be different.

Yes, I do it, too. The great problem is exatly other functions, like
MEAN(). I'd like to do not need to do it.

Well, if there is no such thing, I'll have to deal with the workaround :)

Again, thanks you all!

 Arnold Huzen


 Adam Victor Nazareth Brandizzi schreef:

 Hi, people!

 I have a spreadsheet with a list of values, let's say, at the interval
 B2:B8. At B9, I have the formula =SUM(B2:B8). If I insert a new row
 between B8 and B9, the formula at the now B10 cell is not updated.

 Is there a simple way to make this formula automatically update
 itself? I'm leaving a blank row between the last value and the sum
 cell; I believe I could do some black magic with info functions and
 such; also, I know I could use macros, but I'm looking for something
 easier, since I'm going to teach it.

 Thanks in advance!


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Re: [users] Updating ranges after inserting line

2008-11-06 Thread Adam Victor Nazareth Brandizzi
Thanks all for the responses!

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:43 PM, John  Mary Linge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I handle this problem by filling the empty row with dashes or equal signs to
 remind me that the row is a non-data row. Then I name the range from the
 head of the column to the dashed line based on the type of data in the
 column (e.g., Miles) and then make the  formula in the sum line
 =SUM(Miles). When I need to add a new row of data, I just add the row above
 the dashed line and the named range automatically updates itself.

 I hope this helps.

Yes, I actually

 On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Adam Victor Nazareth Brandizzi 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, people!

 I have a spreadsheet with a list of values, let's say, at the interval
 B2:B8. At B9, I have the formula =SUM(B2:B8). If I insert a new row
 between B8 and B9, the formula at the now B10 cell is not updated.

 Is there a simple way to make this formula automatically update
 itself? I'm leaving a blank row between the last value and the sum
 cell; I believe I could do some black magic with info functions and
 such; also, I know I could use macros, but I'm looking for something
 easier, since I'm going to teach it.

 Thanks in advance!

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[users] Re: regarding open office

2008-11-06 Thread NoOp
On 11/06/2008 04:34 AM, James Knott wrote:
 André Lövgren wrote:
 Hello

 I would like to distribute open office on burned discs.

 Is this possible or illegal? I sell laptops and would like to deliver them
 with openoffice for free.

 OK? or not?

 Best regards

   
 Yes, you can do that.  You can find the ISO files here:
 http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/iso_downoad.html
 
 

Please consider before you promote that link this example:

http://openoffice.cs.utah.edu/extended/iso/en/

This is typical of _all_ the iso's: they are 2.4.0 and are out of date.
It will be a complete waste of time for André Lövgren to download and
distribute those iso's.



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Re: [users] regarding open office

2008-11-06 Thread James Knott
James Knott wrote:
 André Lövgren wrote:
   
 Hello

 I would like to distribute open office on burned discs.

 Is this possible or illegal? I sell laptops and would like to deliver them
 with openoffice for free.

 OK? or not?

 Best regards

   
 
 Yes, you can do that.  You can find the ISO files here:
 http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/iso_downoad.html


   
Upon checking that link, it appears those ISOs are out of date.  I guess
you'll just have to download the install package from www.openoffice.org.



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[users] Re: Two different OOorg versions on same Linux machine

2008-11-06 Thread NoOp
On 11/05/2008 11:23 PM, john d. herron wrote:
 Thanks to Drew and NoOp for  responding.
 Using NoOp's instructions  I installed OOo_3 from 
 OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz.
 As predicted, now there's stuff in /opt/openoffice.org3/ and in 
 /home/xxx/.openoffice.org/3/user (where I apparently find my OOo_2.2 
 macros and templates).
 I create the launcher entry as instructed in the installer webpage, then 
 close the menu editor.
 When I click on the OOo_3.0 menu entry I get a registration wizard. I 
 fill out the dialogs and when I click 'Finish' the wizard closes and a 
 splash form appears for two seconds, then disappears. Nothing else happens.
 What am I doing wrong?
 (By the way: OOo_2.2 still works as it did before).
 Any suggestions?
 john herron
 _
 **kubuntu 7.04 on Intel P4 w/ 512 MB Ram**
 
 

What happens if you do this from a terminal?

/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice

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[users] Re: Saving dta on a samba-share

2008-11-06 Thread NoOp
On 11/06/2008 03:08 AM, Dieter Treichel wrote:
 We are using staroffice 8 and openoffice 2 since 2006 on about 300 pc in
 my school. The users are saving their data on their personal
 samba-share.
 Now we want to change to OO-3 and have the problem, that no user is able
 to save data in his/her home-share. Cause is the new behaviour of open
 office, to create a temporary file like .lockFilename.
 
 .Filename-files are vorbidden (veto file statement in the smb.conf ) for
 this share.
 
 Is there any possibility to change the standard name for the temporary
 files (they should not begin with a dot) ?
 
 Is it possibe to change the path for the temporary files without
 changing the path to the working directory ?

OOo 3.0 made some significant changes to how file locking is implemented
- see:

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=91015
[data loss using concurently OOo3 and another editor in the same network]
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=95528
[Let OOo use lock file mechanics for alien formats as well.]
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=95530
[Notify on closing/saving if the file was changed by other application.]

There is considerable discussion regarding this on the release and
development lists  3.0.1 is supposed to address _some_ of the issues.

You may want to read those bug/issue reports  participate in
testing/commenting. In the interim, I'd recommend that you stay with
2.4.2 for the time being until the issue(s) is resolved.

Also, note that StarOffice 9 (yet to be fully released) may have the
same issues. However, generally Sun/SO tend to use OOo as a testing
ground (hence the delay in releasing SO9), so perhaps they will have
addressed the problem by the time they release.


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Re: [users] Re: Two different OOorg versions on same Linux machine

2008-11-06 Thread john d. herron



NoOp wrote:

On 11/05/2008 11:23 PM, john d. herron wrote:
  

Thanks to Drew and NoOp for  responding.
Using NoOp's instructions  I installed OOo_3 from 
OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz.
As predicted, now there's stuff in /opt/openoffice.org3/ and in 
/home/xxx/.openoffice.org/3/user (where I apparently find my OOo_2.2 
macros and templates).
I create the launcher entry as instructed in the installer webpage, then 
close the menu editor.
When I click on the OOo_3.0 menu entry I get a registration wizard. I 
fill out the dialogs and when I click 'Finish' the wizard closes and a 
splash form appears for two seconds, then disappears. Nothing else happens.

What am I doing wrong?
(By the way: OOo_2.2 still works as it did before).
Any suggestions?
john herron



What happens if you do this from a terminal?
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice?

Here's the output from terminal:
~$ /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
  Major opcode:  145
  Minor opcode:  3
  Resource id:  0x0
Failed to open device
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
  Major opcode:  145
  Minor opcode:  3
  Resource id:  0x0
Failed to open device
[Java framework]sunjavaplugin.so could not load Java runtime library:
file:///usr/lib/../lib/gcj-4.1/libjvm.so.
~$
  


[users] Impress: Sequential numbers when slides hidden

2008-11-06 Thread Laurent Duperval
Hi,

Does anyone know if it's possible to have slide page numbers be kept in 
sequence when slides are hidden. When I do that, I get slide numbers like 
1-2-3-5-6-9.  Looks kinda weird

L



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