Re: ixHash Timeout

2006-10-23 Thread Dirk Bonengel

Chris schrieb:
I've been seeing this quite a bit lately, is the site down or do the 
timeouts need to be increased?  Its currently set for the default 10 
seconds.


Oct 21 12:28:03 localhost spamd[19162]: ixhash timeout reached 
at /etc/mail/spamassassin/iXhash.pm line 91. 
Oct 21 12:28:03 localhost spamd[19162]: ixhash timeout reached 
at /etc/mail/spamassassin/iXhash.pm line 91. 

  
Which zones do you query? The servers running the zones 
nospam.login-solutions.de and nospam.login-solutions.ag run fine.
But I happen to know that the guys running the zone @ manitu.net moved 
to another machine, maybe they have problems.


I'll get in touch with them

Dirk



Re: why this spam has a negative score?

2006-10-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,
I´m newbee to Spamassassin
I´ve install Spamassassin 3.1.5 a some spam are§not marked as a spam.
Whatś wrong in my settings of spamassassin
Especially this header:

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on fw.muvalmez.cz
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-88.9 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_96_XX,
EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08,HTML_MESSAGE,INVALID_DATE,
MIME_HTML_MOSTLY,MPART_ALT_DIFF,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,SARE_GIF_ATTACH,
SARE_GIF_STOX,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no 
version=3.1.5
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Don't whitelist yourself with a whitelist method that isn't immune to 
forgery.


Daryl


Re: why this spam has a negative score?

2006-10-23 Thread M.Lewis

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,
I´m newbee to Spamassassin
I´ve install Spamassassin 3.1.5 a some spam are§not marked as a spam.
Whatś wrong in my settings of spamassassin
Especially this header:

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on fw.muvalmez.cz
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-88.9 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_96_XX,
EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08,HTML_MESSAGE,INVALID_DATE,
MIME_HTML_MOSTLY,MPART_ALT_DIFF,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,SARE_GIF_ATTACH,
SARE_GIF_STOX,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no 
version=3.1.5
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Received: from bmx.cz.net (bmx.cz.net [193.85.2.20])
by fw.muvalmez.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F5A2C08D
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:52:37 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from 210.211.242.52.bb-static.vsnl.net.in (unknown [210.211.242.52])
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Received: from mailin.webmailer.de (port=6609 helo=rjsjqvsn)
by 210.211.242.52.bb-static.vsnl.net.in with smtp
id 2MYvP-u3m6-D3O
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:22:61 +0530
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Jimmy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: younger man's eyes that?  You've gone out the
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:22:61 +0530
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Security: MIME headers sanitized on fw.muvalmez.cz
See http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/sanitizer-intro.html
for details. $Revision: 1.139 $Date: 2003-09-07 10:14:23-07 
Content-Type: multipart/related;

type="multipart/alternative";
boundary="=_NextPart_000_000B_01C62669.6F0E7D80"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
X-Virus-Status: No
X-Virus-Checker-Version: clamassassin 1.2.3 with clamscan / ClamAV 
0.88.4/2077/Mon Oct 23 08:29:38 2006
Status:   
X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.427 [268.13.9/490]





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why this spam has a negative score?

2006-10-23 Thread m . donicova
Hi all,
I´m newbee to Spamassassin
I´ve install Spamassassin 3.1.5 a some spam are§not marked as a spam.
Whatś wrong in my settings of spamassassin
Especially this header:

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on fw.muvalmez.cz
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-88.9 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_96_XX,
EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08,HTML_MESSAGE,INVALID_DATE,
MIME_HTML_MOSTLY,MPART_ALT_DIFF,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,SARE_GIF_ATTACH,
SARE_GIF_STOX,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no 
version=3.1.5
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from bmx.cz.net (bmx.cz.net [193.85.2.20])
by fw.muvalmez.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F5A2C08D
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:52:37 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from 210.211.242.52.bb-static.vsnl.net.in (unknown [210.211.242.52])
by bmx.cz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D221277F5
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:52:22 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from mailin.webmailer.de (port=6609 helo=rjsjqvsn)
by 210.211.242.52.bb-static.vsnl.net.in with smtp
id 2MYvP-u3m6-D3O
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:22:61 +0530
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Jimmy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: younger man's eyes that?  You've gone out the
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:22:61 +0530
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Security: MIME headers sanitized on fw.muvalmez.cz
See http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/sanitizer-intro.html
for details. $Revision: 1.139 $Date: 2003-09-07 10:14:23-07 
Content-Type: multipart/related;
type="multipart/alternative";
boundary="=_NextPart_000_000B_01C62669.6F0E7D80"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
X-Virus-Status: No
X-Virus-Checker-Version: clamassassin 1.2.3 with clamscan / ClamAV 
0.88.4/2077/Mon Oct 23 08:29:38 2006
Status:   
X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.427 [268.13.9/490]




Re: Max-children setting not high enough causing spamassassin to hang?

2006-10-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

James Lavery wrote:

Hi all,
Version: 3.1.4
OS - Unslung 6.8 on a Linksys NSLU2 (Slug)
Running spamd with fetchmail and postfix


How much memory do one of those things have?


A couple of days ago the Slug hung with masses of disk activity; when I 
looked at what was going on, it seemd that spamd and/or spamc were 
chewing up resources.
 
Looking at the spamd log file (relevant part included below) indicates 
that I hadn't got my max-child setting high enough to cope with a flurry 
of emails coming in. Is this my problem, or is this a red herring, and 
is it the warning logged by child process 17429 ' copy_config timeout, 
respawning child process..'? After this, it sems that 17429 no longer 
talks to the parent process.


respawning child... ie. the child kills itself and the parent spawns a 
new one.  Dead children don't talk to their parents much. ;)



I'd be surprised if too low a max-children setting would be causing the 
problem, so can someone shed light on what the problem was with this 
child process?  I had to restart spamd to get things going again.


It's the opposite.  Too large of a setting causes the machine to use up 
all it's physical memory and swap thrash.  copy_config timeouts are 
always indicative of this, or insane CPU load.



Daryl


Max-children setting not high enough causing spamassassin to hang?

2006-10-23 Thread James Lavery



Hi all,
Version: 
3.1.4
OS - Unslung 6.8 on a Linksys 
NSLU2 (Slug)
Running spamd with fetchmail 
and postfix
 
A couple of days ago the Slug 
hung with masses of disk activity; when I looked at what was going on, it seemd 
that spamd and/or spamc were chewing up resources.
 
Looking at the spamd log file 
(relevant part included below) indicates that I hadn't got my max-child setting 
high enough to cope with a flurry of emails coming in. Is this my problem, 
or is this a red herring, and is it the warning logged by child process 
17429 ' copy_config timeout, respawning child process..'? After this, it sems 
that 17429 no longer talks to the parent process.
 
I'd be surprised if too low a 
max-children setting would be causing the problem, so can someone shed light on 
what the problem was with this child process?  I had to restart spamd to 
get things going again.
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
Log file 
extract:
 
Mon Oct 23 06:02:58 2006 
[17427] info: prefork: child states: IIMon Oct 23 06:38:55 2006 [17428] 
info: spamd: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] at port 2676Mon Oct 23 
06:38:56 2006 [17428] info: spamd: setuid to spamd succeededMon Oct 23 
06:38:57 2006 [17428] info: spamd: processing message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
for spamd:40Mon Oct 23 06:39:18 2006 [17428] info: spamd: identified spam 
(16.6/5.0) for spamd:40 in 22.9 seconds, 2512 bytes.Mon Oct 23 06:39:18 2006 
[17428] info: spamd: result: Y 16 - 
INVALID_TZ_EST,URIBL_AB_SURBL,URIBL_BLACK,URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_OB_SURBL,URIBL_SC_SURBL 
scantime=22.9,size=2512,user=spamd,uid=40,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=2676,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolearn=noMon 
Oct 23 06:39:24 2006 [17427] info: prefork: child states: IIMon Oct 23 
06:59:51 2006 [17428] info: spamd: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] at port 
2698Mon Oct 23 06:59:52 2006 [17428] info: spamd: setuid to spamd 
succeededMon Oct 23 06:59:55 2006 [17429] info: spamd: connection from 
localhost [127.0.0.1] at port 2699Mon Oct 23 06:59:58 2006 [17429] info: 
spamd: setuid to spamd succeededMon Oct 23 07:00:00 2006 [17428] info: 
spamd: processing message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
for spamd:40Mon Oct 23 07:00:09 2006 [17429] info: spamd: processing message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
for spamd:40Mon Oct 23 07:00:57 2006 [17428] info: spamd: clean message 
(1.6/5.0) for spamd:40 in 65.6 seconds, 1881 bytes.Mon Oct 23 07:00:58 2006 
[17428] info: spamd: result: . 1 - INVALID_TZ_EST,UNDISC_RECIPS 
scantime=65.6,size=1881,user=spamd,uid=40,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=2698,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolearn=noMon 
Oct 23 07:01:02 2006 [17429] info: spamd: clean message (1.6/5.0) for spamd:40 
in 67.9 seconds, 1893 bytes.Mon Oct 23 07:01:02 2006 [17429] info: spamd: 
result: . 1 - INVALID_TZ_EST,UNDISC_RECIPS 
scantime=67.9,size=1893,user=spamd,uid=40,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=2699,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolearn=noMon 
Oct 23 07:01:58 2006 [17428] warn: spamd: copy_config timeout, respawning child 
process after 3 messages at /opt/bin/spamd line 967.Mon Oct 23 07:02:09 2006 
[17427] info: prefork: child states: BIMon Oct 23 07:02:10 2006 [17427] 
info: prefork: child states: BIMon Oct 23 07:02:13 2006 [17427] warn: 
prefork: cannot ping 17428, file handle not defined, child likely to still be 
processing SIGCHLD handler after killing itselfMon Oct 23 07:02:13 2006 
[17427] warn: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at 
/opt/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/SpamdForkScaling.pm line 
127.Mon Oct 23 07:02:13 2006 [17427] warn: prefork: killing failed child 
17428 fd= at 
/opt/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/SpamdForkScaling.pm line 
127.Mon Oct 23 07:02:13 2006 [17427] warn: prefork: killed child 17428 at 
/opt/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/SpamdForkScaling.pm line 
141.Mon Oct 23 07:02:14 2006 [17427] info: spamd: handled cleanup of child 
pid 17428 due to SIGCHLDMon Oct 23 07:02:16 2006 [17427] info: spamd: server 
successfully spawned child process, pid 17528Mon Oct 23 07:02:17 2006 
[17427] info: prefork: child states: IIMon Oct 23 07:05:51 2006 [17429] 
info: spamd: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] at port 2706Mon Oct 23 
07:05:52 2006 [17429] info: spamd: setuid to spamd succeededMon Oct 23 
07:05:56 2006 [17429] info: spamd: processing message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
for spamd:40Mon Oct 23 07:06:14 2006 [17429] info: spamd: clean message 
(1.6/5.0) for spamd:40 in 23.2 seconds, 1885 bytes.Mon Oct 23 07:06:14 2006 
[17429] info: spamd: result: . 1 - INVALID_TZ_EST,UNDISC_RECIPS 
scantime=23.2,size=1885,user=spamd,uid=40,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=2706,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolearn=noMon 
Oct 23 07:06:20 2006 [17427] info: prefork: child states: IIMon Oct 23 
07:06:57 2006 [17429] info: spamd: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] at port 
2709Mon Oct 23 07:06:57 2006 [17429] info: spamd: setuid to spamd 
succeededMon Oct 23 07:

Re: Scoring PTR's

2006-10-23 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Jo Rhett wrote:

> David B Funk wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Jo Rhett wrote:
> >
> >> Richard Frovarp wrote:
> >>> Or for any machine that hosts more domains than has IPs. Even being able
> >>> to edit the reverse doesn't mean it will always be the same.
> >> How many different names does your mailserver use in its HELO?
> >>
> >> And what mailserver is that?  That's not possible in qmail, postfix,
> >> sendmail, et al...
> >
> > You're a bit behind the times Jo, check out the 'h' argument to
> > 'ClientPortOptions' or the 'HeloName' variable in sendmail 8.13.
>
> I can find no documentation of either.  Googling just gets me lots of
> examples of a script called SendMail()

Some of us pre-date Sir Timothy & his bright idea, had to make our
ones & zeros the hard way by banging two rocks together, had to learn
to find and read documentation. (I first ran into sendmail on a VAX-750
running BSD-4.2 in the early 80's).

In every sendmail release for the last decade there's been a document
"doc/op/op.me" which is the  configuration and operations manual. In that
doc for 8.13.* you'll find:

  ClientPortOptions=options
[O]  Set  client  SMTP options.  The options
are key=value  pairs  separated  by  commas.
Known keys are:

Port  Name/number of source port for connection 
(defaults to any free port)
Addr  Address mask (defaults INADDR_ANY)
FamilyAddress family (defaults to INET)
SndBufSizeSize of TCP send buffer
RcvBufSizeSize of TCP receive buffer
Modifier  Options (flags) for the client

The Address mask may be a numeric address in
dot notation or a  network  name.   Modifier
can be the following character:

h use name of interface for HELO command
A don't use AUTH when sending e-mail
S don't use STARTTLS when sending e-mail

If  ``h''  is set, the name corresponding to
the outgoing interface address (whether cho-
sen  via  the  Connection  parameter  or the
default) is used for the HELO/EHLO  command.


Now if the only way you can relate to things is via a web-page then
look at: http://www.sendmail.org/doc/sendmail-current/doc/op/op.pdf


> Looking at the code, heloname would appear to be statically defined,

I'm not sure what your strong points are Jo, but reading 'c' code doesn't
appear to be one of them. I made no mention of 'heloname' ('c' is case
sensitive). In the sendmail source file readcf.c the variable 'HeloName'
is assigned a value in the case statement:

  case O_HELONAME:
HeloName = newstr(val);
break;

where 'val' is the token that has just been parsed out of the config file.
(not a static definition).

> which brings me back to my original point: how many names does his
> mailserver use in helo?
>
> Sure, if it has 3 interfaces (and uses them all) then he'll need three
> names.  But he won't need 1000 or however many virtual hosts he has...

If that was your point, then why did you make that bogus assertion that
it wasn't possible for MTAs (at least sendmail) to use different HELO names?
And if he wants to use TLS-SSL then he'll have to have a different
interface and matching name for each virtual host.

My whole point here was not to make you look foolish but to point
out that maybe you should stop and think a bit more before going off
and making unsupportable statements.

For example, a while back you were complaining about a FP from a bank
anti-phisihing rule. It was probably caused by that defective milter you
were using. A bit of digging (rather than ranting) might have shown
you something that other sendmail-2-SA milter authors found out years
ago, the need for that added 'Received:' header.

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College of Engineering
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Sys_admin/Postmaster/cell_adminIowa City, IA 52242-1527
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Regex fot words written over multiple lines

2006-10-23 Thread Christopher Martin

Hi,

Spam assassin has for a long time been picking up e-mails with content 
like the following (I have changed a few letters to prevent Bayesian 
stuff from picking it up), but it's always based on URIs, HTML structure 
and such, rather than on a plain text match on the body.


V   LOST PRCE   C
T TOP QUITY  N
A FAT DEVERY WORLDWIDE A
O MEY BK GUANTEE L
R CETELY SECURE N
A Visit our sh op: HERE S

In theory I could use the following to detect it:

/C\n+[a-zA-Z\s]+I\n+[a-zA-Z\s]+A\n+[a-zA-Z\s]+L\n+[a-zA-Z\s]+I\n+[a-zA-Z\s]+S\n/e

Is there a better way? And can use a similar rule for the other word, 
and can I get around the leading space issue? Any way of making it safer 
(less likely to generate false positives)?


Thanks!

Chris M


Re: Scoring PTR's

2006-10-23 Thread Matt Kettler
John Rudd wrote:
> Eric A. Hall wrote:
>> On 10/23/2006 7:01 PM, John Rudd wrote:
>>> Eric A. Hall wrote:
 http://www.ehsco.com/misc/spamassassin/std_compliance.cf might help or
 work for what you're doing.

 Make sure to read the disclaimers and warnings
>>> Those helped a lot.  There's only three checks I can't do with them
>>> (probably need to use a plugin for it):
>>>
>>> a) does the hostname in the PTR record point to a CNAME instead of
>>> an A record
>>
>> That's not illegal. It's pretty common too, since subnet delegation of
>> in-addr space only works on /8, /16 and /24 subnets due to the way that
>> octets are mapped to domain name labels in that hierarchy.
>
> RFC 1912 says "don't do that" :-)
>

And RFC 2317 says "Do that".

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2317.html



Re: Wiki page for BLs updated (Was: Concerned with scores for from rfc-ignorant.org)

2006-10-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Jo Rhett wrote:
> On the "walk the way you talk" point, I have edited the DNSBL wiki
> page to include a list of all the DNSBLs in 20_dnsbl_tests.cf, instead
> of the previous comment about "all of the public DNSBLs" which isn't
> really true.
>
> This could probably use some more editing, so everyone is encouraged
> to fix any mistakes I made.
>
> Jo Rhett wrote: 
Personally I think you mis-read the original text. I don't think it was
meant to imply that SA supported "all public DNSBLs".

By "All of the free BL services are enabled by default."  I believe the
original author was not trying to say SA supported all BL services, but
that all of the free ones it does support are enabled by default.

I might consider re-integrating that statement, perhaps with some revision.

It also might be a good idea to include a link to the exact wiki page
you changed, so folks don't have to go searching to find it.

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists





Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread John Andersen
On Monday 23 October 2006 11:17, Duane Hill wrote:
> As it is now, Windows is the most widely used platform at 
> present. That is the reason it is the most widely attacked.

Ah, someone else who has drunk the cool-aid poured by
Ballmer and Gates.

Windows is attacked because its EASY, not necessarily
because its popular.  

Bill would rather you spout the nonsense you did, and for
that he thanks you, i'm sure.

-- 
_
John Andersen


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Re: Scoring PTR's

2006-10-23 Thread John Rudd

Eric A. Hall wrote:

On 10/23/2006 7:01 PM, John Rudd wrote:

Eric A. Hall wrote:

http://www.ehsco.com/misc/spamassassin/std_compliance.cf might help or
work for what you're doing.

Make sure to read the disclaimers and warnings
Those helped a lot.  There's only three checks I can't do with them 
(probably need to use a plugin for it):


a) does the hostname in the PTR record point to a CNAME instead of an A 
record


That's not illegal. It's pretty common too, since subnet delegation of
in-addr space only works on /8, /16 and /24 subnets due to the way that
octets are mapped to domain name labels in that hierarchy.


RFC 1912 says "don't do that" :-)

Though, honestly, I've yet to see it actually get triggered in my 
mimedefang filter, so I don't mind losing it.





b) does the hostname contain it's IP address in _hex_ form (instead of 
in decimal form, which I've already got working)


I don't recall ever seeing that. If you create a rule for that you might
also want to do octal notations too, which is another valid address
encoding syntax that should never appear naturally.


I see it in about 10% of cases where the IP address is in the hostname.



c) does the hostname in the PTR record actually going to an A record 
which includes the relay's IP addr


that's a reasonable test



Re: Scoring PTR's

2006-10-23 Thread Eric A. Hall

On 10/23/2006 7:01 PM, John Rudd wrote:
> Eric A. Hall wrote:
>> http://www.ehsco.com/misc/spamassassin/std_compliance.cf might help or
>> work for what you're doing.
>>
>> Make sure to read the disclaimers and warnings
> 
> Those helped a lot.  There's only three checks I can't do with them 
> (probably need to use a plugin for it):
> 
> a) does the hostname in the PTR record point to a CNAME instead of an A 
> record

That's not illegal. It's pretty common too, since subnet delegation of
in-addr space only works on /8, /16 and /24 subnets due to the way that
octets are mapped to domain name labels in that hierarchy.

> b) does the hostname contain it's IP address in _hex_ form (instead of 
> in decimal form, which I've already got working)

I don't recall ever seeing that. If you create a rule for that you might
also want to do octal notations too, which is another valid address
encoding syntax that should never appear naturally.

> c) does the hostname in the PTR record actually going to an A record 
> which includes the relay's IP addr

that's a reasonable test

-- 
Eric A. Hallhttp://www.ehsco.com/
Internet Core Protocols  http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/


Re: Funky spamd error

2006-10-23 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 05:43:30PM -0700, Evan Platt wrote:
> null string many times in regex; marked by <-- HERE in 
> m/\G(?:(?<=[\s,]))* <-- HERE \Z/ at 
> /opt/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/Text/Wrap.pm line 46.\n
> 
> Any ideas what's causing this?

Bug in Text::Wrap.

http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5056

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Re: About the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-23 Thread Marc Perkel



Robert Braver wrote:

On Monday, October 23, 2006, 7:52:56 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:

MP> The judge should have raised the issue sua sponte. (of his own motion)

While the court can decide, sua sponta, that it doesn't have subject
matter jurisdiction, I don't believe it can do that with regards to
personal jurisdiction (unless, perhaps, the pleadings were blatantly
defective).

The Plaintiff did plead (alleged) facts that would tend to support
personal jurisdiction over the defendant - the defendant did not
refute those facts (if I missed something in the record of the case,
please correct me) and, once again, the defendant deliberately
allowed judgment to be taken against it. Harping on the court for
following the law and because the outcome of the case is exactly
what the defendant deliberately allowed to happen is non-sensical.

MP> Does anyone have the address of the court? I might write the judge a
MP> letter myself.

It is trivial to look it up on Google or follow the link to the
court's web site from www.uscourts.gov. However, I'd respectfully
suggest you don't embarrass yourself. You have no standing in the
matter, any such letters would be afforded absolutely no
consideration, which is as it should be. Your letter would, at best,
simply be sent back to you with a note from the clerk explaining
this.

As I've explained before, I've been on the receiving end of
retaliatory lawsuits and counter-claims from the bad guys
(telemarketers, junk faxers and spammers), and am clearly
sympathetic to Spamhaus' plight here. However, there is nothing I
can see in the record to fault the court on in this case. Spamhaus
apparently intends to appeal, so we'll just have to see what issues
are raised.
  


I get referrals to host web sites than no one else will host. I've been 
sued twice by lawyers who thought they could intimidate me. In both 
cases I wrote a letter to the judge and told him that I was in San 
Francisco and that he didn't have personal jurisdiction and that his 
court wasn't the proper venue for the lawsuit. And in both cases they 
dismissed me from the suit.




SA errors

2006-10-23 Thread Arthur Sherman CPTeam

Howdy,

I run SA-3.1.7 from MailScanner, on CentOS-4.4

When I run 'maiscanner --lint' it says SA has an error. Output follows:
---
Connected to SpamAssassin cache database
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_XBL
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_NJABL_SPAM
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule __RCVD_IN_SORBS
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_SBL
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule BAYES_20
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule BAYES_00
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule __RCVD_IN_SBL_XBL
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_SORBS_ZOMBIE
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_BSP_TRUSTED
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule BAYES_05
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule __RCVD_IN_NJABL
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule DNS_FROM_RFC_DSN
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_NJABL_RELAY
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_SORBS_MISC
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule DNS_FROM_RFC_BOGUSMX
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_MAPS_RSS
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_SORBS_SMTP
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_SORBS_BLOCK
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_MAPS_DUL
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule BAYES_60
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_MAPS_RBL
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_SORBS_SOCKS
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule __RFC_IGNORANT_ENVFROM
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule BAYES_40
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_NJABL_MULTI
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule DNS_FROM_RFC_POST
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_DSBL
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule BAYES_99
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_NJABL_CGI
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_BSP_OTHER
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule BAYES_80
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_MAPS_NML
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule BAYES_95
config: warning: score set for non-existent rule RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY
[28027] info: rules: meta test __SARE_HEAD_FALSE has undefined dependency
'__FROM_AOL_COM'
[28027] info: rules: meta test __SARE_HEAD_FALSE has undefined dependency
'__FROM_AOL_COM'
[28027] info: rules: meta test SARE_BOUNDARY_D12 has undefined dependency
'MIME_BOUND_DIGITS_15'
[28027] info: rules: meta test SARE_CIT_BLOCKER has undefined dependency
'USER_IN_WHITELIST'
[28027] info: rules: meta test HEBREWSPAM_33 has undefined dependency
'HEBREW_SPAM_30'
[28027] info: rules: meta test SARE_SUN_BLOCKER has undefined dependency
'USER_IN_WHITELIST'
[28027] info: rules: meta test HEBREWSPAM_33H has undefined dependency
'HEBREW_SPAM_3H'
[28027] info: rules: meta test SARE_HEAD_SUBJ_RAND has undefined dependency
'SARE_XMAIL_SUSP2'
[28027] info: rules: meta test SARE_HEAD_SUBJ_RAND has undefined dependency
'SARE_HEAD_XAUTH_WARN'
[28027] info: rules: meta test SARE_HEAD_SUBJ_RAND has undefined dependency
'X_AUTH_WARN_FAKED'
[28027] info: rules: meta test SARE_RD_SAFE has undefined dependency
'SARE_RD_SAFE_MKSHRT'
[28027] info: rules: meta test SARE_RD_SAFE has undefined dependency
'SARE_RD_SAFE_GT'
[28027] info: rules: meta test SARE_RD_SAFE has undefined dependency
'SARE_RD_SAFE_TINY'
[28027] info: rules: meta test SARE_FPP_BLOCKER has undefined dependency
'USER_IN_WHITELIST'
[28027] info: rules: meta test VIRUS_WARNING_DOOM_BNC has undefined
dependency 'VIRUS_WARNING_MYDOOM4'
[28027] info: rules: meta test __SARE_SUB_FALSE has undefined dependency
'__FROM_AOL_COM'
[28027] info: rules: meta test __SARE_SUB_FALSE has undefined dependency
'__FROM_AOL_COM'
[28027] info: rules: meta test SARE_FEB_BLOCKER has undefined dependency
'USER_IN_WHITELIST'
[28027] info: rules: meta test FP_MIXED_PORN3 has undefined dependency
'FP_PENETRATION'
SpamAssassin reported an error.
---

Anyone met this before? What was the cure?

Thanks!


Best,

--
Arthur Sherman

+972-52-4878851
CPTeam 



Re: About the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Braver
On Monday, October 23, 2006, 7:52:56 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:

MP> The judge should have raised the issue sua sponte. (of his own motion)

While the court can decide, sua sponta, that it doesn't have subject
matter jurisdiction, I don't believe it can do that with regards to
personal jurisdiction (unless, perhaps, the pleadings were blatantly
defective).

The Plaintiff did plead (alleged) facts that would tend to support
personal jurisdiction over the defendant - the defendant did not
refute those facts (if I missed something in the record of the case,
please correct me) and, once again, the defendant deliberately
allowed judgment to be taken against it. Harping on the court for
following the law and because the outcome of the case is exactly
what the defendant deliberately allowed to happen is non-sensical.

MP> Does anyone have the address of the court? I might write the judge a
MP> letter myself.

It is trivial to look it up on Google or follow the link to the
court's web site from www.uscourts.gov. However, I'd respectfully
suggest you don't embarrass yourself. You have no standing in the
matter, any such letters would be afforded absolutely no
consideration, which is as it should be. Your letter would, at best,
simply be sent back to you with a note from the clerk explaining
this.

As I've explained before, I've been on the receiving end of
retaliatory lawsuits and counter-claims from the bad guys
(telemarketers, junk faxers and spammers), and am clearly
sympathetic to Spamhaus' plight here. However, there is nothing I
can see in the record to fault the court on in this case. Spamhaus
apparently intends to appeal, so we'll just have to see what issues
are raised.

-- 
Best regards,
 Robert Braver
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



About the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-23 Thread Marc Perkel



Robert Braver wrote:

On Monday, October 23, 2006, 7:07:43 PM, Giampaolo Tomassoni  wrote:

GT> I would have much more preferred a statement like: 'we can't
GT> handle this case since it crosses U.S. borders', but
GT> anyway...

Me too, but because Spamhaus did not ask that the case be dismissed
for lack of personal jurisdiction, that was not an issue that the
court had an opportunity to decide.
  


The judge should have raised the issue sua sponte. (of his own motion)

Does anyone have the address of the court? I might write the judge a 
letter myself.


Funky spamd error

2006-10-23 Thread Evan Platt



Oct 23 17:19:09 espphotography spamd[7320]: (?:(?<=[\s,]))* matches 
null string many times in regex; marked by <-- HERE in 
m/\G(?:(?<=[\s,]))* <-- HERE \Z/ at 
/opt/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/Text/Wrap.pm line 46.\n


Any ideas what's causing this?

Coming up pretty frequently in my mail.log.

SA 3.1.7 on a os/x box.

Thanks.

Evan



Re: R: R: Re[4]: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Braver
On Monday, October 23, 2006, 7:07:43 PM, Giampaolo Tomassoni  wrote:

GT> I would have much more preferred a statement like: 'we can't
GT> handle this case since it crosses U.S. borders', but
GT> anyway...

Me too, but because Spamhaus did not ask that the case be dismissed
for lack of personal jurisdiction, that was not an issue that the
court had an opportunity to decide.

-- 
Best regards,
 Robert Braver
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Bayes ?

2006-10-23 Thread Michael Scheidell


> -Original Message-
> From: Noc Phibee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:46 PM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Bayes ?
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> he have a spam file for add to a new SA installation ? for 
> don't start at 0
> 
> Thanks for your answer
> 
> 
Find some existing email.  Put it into two folders

Spam and ham.

Use sa-learn to learn the spam folder as spam and the ham folder as ham.

You should have at least 200 emails in each folder.



R: R: Re[4]: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-23 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> GT> That's not so good, whether confirmed: it would mean that the
> GT> court recognized that Spamhaus is actually running some
> GT> unlawful ...
> 
> No, it only means that Spamhaus abandoned the case and allowed a
> default judgment and injunction to be entered against it.
> 
> A default judgment is not a determination on the merits.

Well, I don't know: you're probably right.

I would have much more preferred a statement like: 'we can't handle this case 
since it crosses U.S. borders', but anyway...

giampaolo


> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Robert Braver
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 



Re: R: Re[4]: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Braver
On Monday, October 23, 2006, 5:11:43 PM, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:

GT> That's not so good, whether confirmed: it would mean that the
GT> court recognized that Spamhaus is actually running some
GT> unlawful ...

No, it only means that Spamhaus abandoned the case and allowed a
default judgment and injunction to be entered against it.

A default judgment is not a determination on the merits.

-- 
Best regards,
 Robert Braver
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Scoring PTR's

2006-10-23 Thread John Rudd

Eric A. Hall wrote:

http://www.ehsco.com/misc/spamassassin/std_compliance.cf might help or
work for what you're doing.

Make sure to read the disclaimers and warnings




Those helped a lot.  There's only three checks I can't do with them 
(probably need to use a plugin for it):


a) does the hostname in the PTR record point to a CNAME instead of an A 
record
b) does the hostname contain it's IP address in _hex_ form (instead of 
in decimal form, which I've already got working)
c) does the hostname in the PTR record actually going to an A record 
which includes the relay's IP addr



Short of those things, I think this works the way I want it to:

http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/jr_rfc1912.cf


Now I just need to decide if getting those other 3 items in place is 
worth the time I'd spend learning to write a plugin.  Probably is, since 
it's learning... but I'm not sure I have the time to actually do it.





RE: Per Domain Whitelisting

2006-10-23 Thread Dylan Bouterse


-Original Message-
From: jasonegli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:36 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Per Domain Whitelisting


I'm running multiple domains on one SPAM cleaning server.  I'm wondering
if
there's a way in spamassassin to build a separate whitelist for each
domain. 
If not, can you build a whitelist based on BOTH To and From addresses.

For example let's say that domain xyz.com wants to allow all messages
from
yahoo.com, but domain 123.com does not. Is there a way to allow "FROM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] TO [EMAIL PROTECTED]"?


Thanks
-- 
View this message in context:
http://www.nabble.com/Per-Domain-Whitelisting-tf2497743.html#a6962693
Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


I've not implemented or tested it, but I ran across Maia Mailguard a few
weeks back. It looks like you can do per user/domain sa settings.
http://www.renaissoft.com/maia/

Dylan


R: Re[4]: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-23 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> But Kocoras said Thursday that the requested action was too broad and
> would cut off all lawful online activities of Spamhaus, not just those
> targeted by any court order.

That's not so good, whether confirmed: it would mean that the court recognized 
that Spamhaus is actually running some unlawful activity...

giampaolo



Re: CC: in body of email causes message to be blocked

2006-10-23 Thread Steven Danneman
Hello John and Evan,

Thanks for your help.  I've tried setting the required_score to 1000,
but any mail with 'C' 'C' ':' is still not coming through. 

In addition to not receiving email, I've now tried sending email with
this string in the body through webmail and receive a CPanel error:

Email delivery error
Server replied: 1 Can't execute command
'/usr/local/cpanel/bin/sendmail_cpanel -i -t [EMAIL PROTECTED]'.

Again, this is only happening when SpamAssassin is enabled, which is why
I think it may be the problem, but I am also contacting CPanel to report
this error.

-Steven

John D. Hardin wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Steven Danneman wrote:
>
>   
>> I'm guessing SpamAssassin is misconfigured, unfortunately I don't have
>> much access to its configuration, only what is available through
>> CPanel.  Does anybody have any ideas what could be happening here?
>> 
>
> Suggestion:
>
> Use CPanel to set your SA spam score way high (1000) and send a test
> message through. You should be able to check the message headers and
> see which rules are hitting and what the message is scoring.
>
> --
>  John Hardin KA7OHZICQ#15735746http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  key: 0xB8732E79 - 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
> ---
>   ...the Fates notice those who buy chainsaws...
>   -- www.darwinawards.com
> ---
>  8 days until Halloween
>
>
>
> .
>
>   



RE: in body of email causes message to be blocked

2006-10-23 Thread Michael Scheidell

Its not spamassassin, note the x-spam-level: no.

SA didn't block, or attempt to block, or even mark that email spam.

> 
> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on
>   server4.virtuosonetsolutions.com
> X-Spam-Level: *
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=12.0 
> tests=AWL,BAYES_05,MISSING_SUBJECT,
>   NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS,TO_CC_NONE autolearn=no version=3.1.7
> From: "Spam Assassin"
> 
> Spam Assassin has been enabled on this account
> 
> 

It did however find a blank cc, missing received header, missing
subject, no relays...
I would suggest that whoever set it up has it messed up.


Per Domain Whitelisting

2006-10-23 Thread jasonegli

I'm running multiple domains on one SPAM cleaning server.  I'm wondering if
there's a way in spamassassin to build a separate whitelist for each domain. 
If not, can you build a whitelist based on BOTH To and From addresses.

For example let's say that domain xyz.com wants to allow all messages from
yahoo.com, but domain 123.com does not. Is there a way to allow "FROM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] TO [EMAIL PROTECTED]"?


Thanks
-- 
View this message in context: 
http://www.nabble.com/Per-Domain-Whitelisting-tf2497743.html#a6962693
Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



OFF-TOPIC - (Was: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft)

2006-10-23 Thread Jo Rhett
I have no official position with spamassassin, but I am requesting that 
you please take this thread to another mailing list.  It isn't relevant 
to spamassassin and we don't need to read this.


--
Jo Rhett
Senior Network Engineer
Network Consonance


RE: It works great, but looking for advise...

2006-10-23 Thread Dan Horne

> 
> ClamAV blocks a lot of phishing attempts; you might look into that.
> 

In addition to vanilla ClamAV, I would also suggest adding in the
SANESECURITY unofficial Phishing and Scam signatures for ClamAV.  These
are just extra signatures that run in addition to the normal ClamAV
signatures and catch a LOT of phishing/scam attempts.  Easy to set up
and use, too.  Remember to update them frequently.

http://www.sanesecurity.com/clamav/

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the 
intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. 
Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you 
are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and 
destroy all copies of the original message.
 
SPAM-FREE 1.0(2476)




Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread hamann . w
>> 
>> 
>> Jo wrote:
>> > Duane Hill schreef:
>> >> Marc Perkel wrote:
>> >>> I'm considering filing a lawsuit against Microsoft to try to get an 
>> >>> order to make them make public security updates for Windows to 
>> >>> everyone, registered or not.
>> >>>
>> >>> The idea is that their product Windows creates a toxic byproduct 
>> >>> (spam,ddos zombies) that interfere with everyone else's internet 
>> >>> usage and that they have a responsibility to clean it up. It would 
>> >>> be similar to a suit where a business that is otherwise legitimate 
>> >>> attracts crime in a neighborhood or a manufacturer dumping toxic 
>> >>> waste into a stream.
>> >>>
>> >>> Virus infected spam zombie are a toxic byproduct of their business 
>> >>> model and it affects all of us and they have a duty to the public to 
>> >>> fix it. I'm somewhat of a legal expert, not a lawyer though. But 
>> >>> just wanted to get some feedback on the idea.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> Good luck! As it is now, Windows is the most widely used platform at 
>> >> present. That is the reason it is the most widely attacked. If Mac 
>> >> OSX or any other platform were to rise up and be dominant, then guess 
>> >> what would happen? Yes. That platform would be the one most widely 
>> >> attacked.
>> >>
>> >> So, should the other OS platforms start to take action now in 
>> >> preparing for an OS mainstream shift?
>> > I don't buy the hypothesis that if another OS would be more popular it 
>> > would automatically be such a sieve like Windows. A system can be 
>> > intrinsically more secure due to the choices that were made during its 
>> > development.
>> >
>> > Suing MS, I would say: Go for it! By all means. Maybe they can also 
>> > die the death of a thousand cuts.
>> >
>> > Jo
>> 
>> Popularity is a factor. But the real vulnerability is that Windows can 
>> be more secure if it has the patches. If Linux for example restricted 
>> it's seurity patches to only licensed users they would have the same 
>> problem. I'm not saying either that MS should be compelled to distribute 
>> any upgrades for free. Just secutiry fixes.
>> 
Hi,

I believe that some users of illegal copies avoid to download security fixes 
because
- they fear that some info about them might be sent to MS
- it is not always clear what an update really does.

I have no idea whether the first one is true, but I can say for sure that the 
ONLY update
that windows suggested to install by itself on a specific pc was WGA  but 
nothing security related.
This does not necessarily improve confidence in the security update mechanism

Side note: some of the "pirated" windows copies only seem to exist due to 
problems with
the system, or strange licensing conditions. If I can trust some recent 
statistics, the vast
majority of systems is sold with windows already installed, and should not be 
candidates
for pirating at all. If these systems are set up such that the average user 
cannot reinstall
after a crash or hardware change, users might prefer to reinstall from a 
non-restricted version
and probably use a pirated one. After all, why should they pay twice for the 
same OS on the
same computer
Perhaps this aspect of the computer business should be questioned in court

Wolfgang Hamann





Re: It works great, but looking for advise...

2006-10-23 Thread Chris St. Pierre
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Jon D. Slater wrote:

>What rule set do you suggest for the spoof Paypal and eBay spam (and
>assorted fake links to assorted banks and credit unions).

Jon--

ClamAV blocks a lot of phishing attempts; you might look into that.

Between ClamAV and an aggressive MTA configuration (blacklists,
forcing somewhat RFC-compliant behavior, etc.), I see very little
phishing mail.

Chris St. Pierre
Unix Systems Administrator
Nebraska Wesleyan University




RE: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread Rose, Bobby
 
But windows patches are free.  Even if you are using an illegal copy of
windows, you can still manually download and install the patches.  It's
Microsoft Update where they mostly have the genuine windows verification
code.  Even Redhat forces you to pay subscriptions for their autoupdate
management stuff.

-Original Message-
From: Marc Perkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:59 PM
To: Jo
Cc: Duane Hill; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft



Popularity is a factor. But the real vulnerability is that Windows can
be more secure if it has the patches. If Linux for example restricted
it's seurity patches to only licensed users they would have the same
problem. I'm not saying either that MS should be compelled to distribute
any upgrades for free. Just secutiry fixes.



Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 23 October 2006 21:58, Peter H. Lemieux took the opportunity to say:
> Magnus Holmgren wrote:
> > I thought they did? At least the message from WU/WGA on one computer with
> > Windows XP I used recently was that unauthorised installations only get
> > critical updates, but they do get those. Is that going to change with
> > Vista?
>
> Yes.  See, for instance, http://www.computerworld.com/blogs/node/3665
>
> Vista machines that Windows "Genuine Advantage" believes to be pirated
> will operate with reduced functionality, including disabling the "Windows
> Defender" software that protects against malware.

But Windows Defender != patches for security holes? Still, bad move ("security 
in depth" etc.). We can only pray that, to the extent SPP works, people will 
either pay up or get rid of Vista, or Windows altogether.

> All that said, those of you who think a lawsuit is a good approach should
> start by reading the Windows EULA.  Like most EULA's it exempts Microsoft
> from liability for just about anything it's software does.  

The EULA isn't binding to third parties, though. The question is whether 
Microsoft, by willfully denying some computers adequate protection, is liable 
of contributing to the crimes committed by others, or those installing 
unauthorised copies are fully responsible.

-- 
Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks)


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Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread Marc Perkel



Peter H. Lemieux wrote:

Magnus Holmgren wrote:
I thought they did? At least the message from WU/WGA on one computer 
with Windows XP I used recently was that unauthorised installations 
only get critical updates, but they do get those. Is that going to 
change with Vista?


Yes.  See, for instance, http://www.computerworld.com/blogs/node/3665

Vista machines that Windows "Genuine Advantage" believes to be pirated 
will operate with reduced functionality, including disabling the 
"Windows Defender" software that protects against malware.


What's especially troubling is the large number of false positives 
that WGA currently generates if the computer's hardware is 
significantly altered.  It also seems to me that this approach leaves 
these machines ripe for a denial-of-service attack where a virus 
somehow changes the WGA signature on the machine so it appears that 
the Windows OS is pirated. Then the next time WGA phones home it 
switches the infected computer to the reduced functionality state 
(which generates lots of calls to the help desk!).


All that said, those of you who think a lawsuit is a good approach 
should start by reading the Windows EULA.  Like most EULA's it exempts 
Microsoft from liability for just about anything it's software does.  
I also suspect most judges wouldn't consider spamming to be a 
sufficient threat to the public's health and welfare that it would 
justify taking legal actions against Microsoft.  But, if your 
attorneys think this is a good idea, more power to you!


Peter




Lots of companies state that they are exempt from liability that they 
aren't exempt from. Just because an agreement says "we aren't liable" 
really means nothing. And it doesn't apply to third parties who are 
affected.




Re: Concerned with scores for from rfc-ignorant.org

2006-10-23 Thread John Rudd

Elizabeth Schwartz wrote:

JADP - the rfc-ignorant rules lost us some important email today. The
customer was throwing away all mail tagged as SPAM after many months of no
false positives. I've turned those rules off on my site, and continue as
always to encourage my users to check their tagged mail before tossing it.



IMO, anyone who is throwing all all mail tagged as spam _deserves_ to 
lose legit email.


Reject it (at the SMTP level) at something like 10+ if your setup allows 
that, but review it in the range of 5-10.


Never throw it away blindly.  That's just _stupid_.



IMHO if a rule is getting legit email tagged as SPAM it should be toned
down.


IMNHAAO (in my not humble at all opinion), the problem here isn't the 
rules.  It's how your user was using them.






Wiki page for BLs updated (Was: Concerned with scores for from rfc-ignorant.org)

2006-10-23 Thread Jo Rhett
On the "walk the way you talk" point, I have edited the DNSBL wiki page 
to include a list of all the DNSBLs in 20_dnsbl_tests.cf, instead of the 
previous comment about "all of the public DNSBLs" which isn't really true.


This could probably use some more editing, so everyone is encouraged to 
fix any mistakes I made.


Jo Rhett wrote:

Elizabeth Schwartz wrote:

IMHO if a rule is getting legit email tagged as SPAM it should be toned
down. Obeying the RFC's is a good thing, but I am trying to tune our spam
filter to filter spam, not to be a netcop.


Then you should disable these BLs in your configuration.

Don't suggest to others that these should be disabled.  Do it yourself. 
 Pretty much everyone here is aware that these are policy-enforcement, 
not spam detection, and if they have them enabled it is because they 
find that to be useful.


You should take this time to go read the objectives of each of the BLs 
you have enabled and decide if their policy matches your objectives.





--
Jo Rhett
Senior Network Engineer
Network Consonance


Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread Peter H. Lemieux

Magnus Holmgren wrote:
I thought they did? At least the message from WU/WGA on one computer with 
Windows XP I used recently was that unauthorised installations only get 
critical updates, but they do get those. Is that going to change with Vista?


Yes.  See, for instance, http://www.computerworld.com/blogs/node/3665

Vista machines that Windows "Genuine Advantage" believes to be pirated 
will operate with reduced functionality, including disabling the "Windows 
Defender" software that protects against malware.


What's especially troubling is the large number of false positives that 
WGA currently generates if the computer's hardware is significantly 
altered.  It also seems to me that this approach leaves these machines 
ripe for a denial-of-service attack where a virus somehow changes the WGA 
signature on the machine so it appears that the Windows OS is pirated. 
Then the next time WGA phones home it switches the infected computer to 
the reduced functionality state (which generates lots of calls to the 
help desk!).


All that said, those of you who think a lawsuit is a good approach should 
start by reading the Windows EULA.  Like most EULA's it exempts Microsoft 
from liability for just about anything it's software does.  I also 
suspect most judges wouldn't consider spamming to be a sufficient threat 
to the public's health and welfare that it would justify taking legal 
actions against Microsoft.  But, if your attorneys think this is a good 
idea, more power to you!


Peter




Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread Marc Perkel



Jo wrote:

Duane Hill schreef:

Marc Perkel wrote:
I'm considering filing a lawsuit against Microsoft to try to get an 
order to make them make public security updates for Windows to 
everyone, registered or not.


The idea is that their product Windows creates a toxic byproduct 
(spam,ddos zombies) that interfere with everyone else's internet 
usage and that they have a responsibility to clean it up. It would 
be similar to a suit where a business that is otherwise legitimate 
attracts crime in a neighborhood or a manufacturer dumping toxic 
waste into a stream.


Virus infected spam zombie are a toxic byproduct of their business 
model and it affects all of us and they have a duty to the public to 
fix it. I'm somewhat of a legal expert, not a lawyer though. But 
just wanted to get some feedback on the idea.




Good luck! As it is now, Windows is the most widely used platform at 
present. That is the reason it is the most widely attacked. If Mac 
OSX or any other platform were to rise up and be dominant, then guess 
what would happen? Yes. That platform would be the one most widely 
attacked.


So, should the other OS platforms start to take action now in 
preparing for an OS mainstream shift?
I don't buy the hypothesis that if another OS would be more popular it 
would automatically be such a sieve like Windows. A system can be 
intrinsically more secure due to the choices that were made during its 
development.


Suing MS, I would say: Go for it! By all means. Maybe they can also 
die the death of a thousand cuts.


Jo


Popularity is a factor. But the real vulnerability is that Windows can 
be more secure if it has the patches. If Linux for example restricted 
it's seurity patches to only licensed users they would have the same 
problem. I'm not saying either that MS should be compelled to distribute 
any upgrades for free. Just secutiry fixes.


Re: CC: in body of email causes message to be blocked

2006-10-23 Thread Evan Platt

At 06:21 PM 10/20/2006, you wrote:


When we have SpamAssassin enabled, we are unable to receive some
messages.  I've narrowed down the problem to any message with the three
characters 'C' 'C' ':' (I've separated them so I can send this message
out) in the body of the message.  When any email address
sends us a message with this in the body, the message seems to be
rejected by our mail server.  The original sender of the message is not
notified, and no message, not even one with re-written headers and a
SPAM score comes to the recipient.

When I turn off SpamAssassin, these messages are received fine.  So it
seems obvious that SpamAssassin is blocking messages with 'C' 'C' ':' in
their body, but this doesn't seem to be a filter rule, because no
message gets through, even when I have SpamAssassin set to forward all
messages.

I'm guessing SpamAssassin is misconfigured, unfortunately I don't have
much access to its configuration, only what is available through
CPanel.  Does anybody have any ideas what could be happening here?



If you don't get any responses here, check in a cpanel group.

Spamassassin cannot 'block' messages. Something else is blocking them.



Re: CC: in body of email causes message to be blocked

2006-10-23 Thread John D. Hardin
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Steven Danneman wrote:

> I'm guessing SpamAssassin is misconfigured, unfortunately I don't have
> much access to its configuration, only what is available through
> CPanel.  Does anybody have any ideas what could be happening here?

Suggestion:

Use CPanel to set your SA spam score way high (1000) and send a test
message through. You should be able to check the message headers and
see which rules are hitting and what the message is scoring.

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Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread James Butler
Holding the position of "most widely-attacked" is no reason for it to also be 
"least secure-due-to-widely-known-and-poorly-corrected-issues". Even if 
Apple/Posix products were as "widely attacked" as Windows products, the results 
would be far less damaging to the global infrastructure, despite Posix near 
stranglehold on server systems worldwide.

I'm in favor of investigating a lawsuit such as the one described, because 
Microsoft is in the same arena as other major manufacturers (automobiles, 
telephone systems, medical equipment, etc.) that are regularly held accountable 
for problems with their products that impact safety and economic issues on a 
broad scale.

James

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 10/23/06 at 7:17 PM Duane Hill wrote:

>Marc Perkel wrote:
>> I'm considering filing a lawsuit against Microsoft to try to get an
>> order to make them make public security updates for Windows to
>> everyone, registered or not.
>>
>> The idea is that their product Windows creates a toxic byproduct
>> (spam,ddos zombies) that interfere with everyone else's internet usage
>> and that they have a responsibility to clean it up. It would be
>> similar to a suit where a business that is otherwise legitimate
>> attracts crime in a neighborhood or a manufacturer dumping toxic waste
>> into a stream.
>>
>> Virus infected spam zombie are a toxic byproduct of their business
>> model and it affects all of us and they have a duty to the public to
>> fix it. I'm somewhat of a legal expert, not a lawyer though. But just
>> wanted to get some feedback on the idea.
>>
>>
>>
>Good luck! As it is now, Windows is the most widely used platform at
>present. That is the reason it is the most widely attacked. If Mac OSX
>or any other platform were to rise up and be dominant, then guess what
>would happen? Yes. That platform would be the one most widely attacked.
>
>So, should the other OS platforms start to take action now in preparing
>for an OS mainstream shift?





Re: Does skip_rbl_checks have influence on razor 2 and DCC?

2006-10-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Volker wrote:

Hi,

does anybody know if disabling "skip_rbl_checks" does stop razor 2 
checks and DCC too even if razor2 and dcc are enabled in local.cf?


Run spamassassin in debug mode and find out.

Daryl



Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread Evan Platt

At 12:35 PM 10/23/2006, you wrote:

My opinion is that security patches should be available to everyone 
so as not to create an army of zombies. Aren't OS-X patches openly available?



I believe so.

But then again, there is no product key for OS/X.

It's been a while since I installed OS/X, but if I recall, 
hypothetically, you could buy one DVD of OS/X, install it on 30 
computers, and no one would be the wiser.


I mean, unless EVERY DVD is serialized, and the serial is hard coded...




Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread Will Nordmeyer


Marc Perkel wrote: 
> 
> Duane Hill wrote:
> > Marc Perkel wrote:
> >> I'm considering filing a lawsuit against Microsoft to try to get 
an 
> >> order to make them make public security updates for Windows to 
> >> everyone, registered or not.
> >>
> >> The idea is that their product Windows creates a toxic byproduct 
> >> (spam,ddos zombies) that interfere with everyone else's internet 
> >> usage and that they have a responsibility to clean it up. It would 
be 
> >> similar to a suit where a business that is otherwise legitimate 
> >> attracts crime in a neighborhood or a manufacturer dumping toxic 
> >> waste into a stream.
> >>
> >> Virus infected spam zombie are a toxic byproduct of their business 
> >> model and it affects all of us and they have a duty to the public 
to 
> >> fix it. I'm somewhat of a legal expert, not a lawyer though. But 
just 
> >> wanted to get some feedback on the idea.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Good luck! As it is now, Windows is the most widely used platform 
at 
> > present. That is the reason it is the most widely attacked. If Mac 
OSX 
> > or any other platform were to rise up and be dominant, then guess 
what 
> > would happen? Yes. That platform would be the one most widely 
attacked.
> >
> > So, should the other OS platforms start to take action now in 
> > preparing for an OS mainstream shift?
> 
> My opinion is that security patches should be available to everyone 
so 
> as not to create an army of zombies. Aren't OS-X patches openly 
available?
> 
> 

It is my understanding that SECURITY patches are still freely available 
via Windows Update for currently supported Operating Systems.  It is 
feature enhancements and other such downloads that are not available 
for pirated software.


Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 23 October 2006 20:34, Marc Perkel took the opportunity to say:
> I'm considering filing a lawsuit against Microsoft to try to get an
> order to make them make public security updates for Windows to everyone,
> registered or not.

I thought they did? At least the message from WU/WGA on one computer with 
Windows XP I used recently was that unauthorised installations only get 
critical updates, but they do get those. Is that going to change with Vista?

-- 
Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks)


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Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread Jo

Duane Hill schreef:

Marc Perkel wrote:
I'm considering filing a lawsuit against Microsoft to try to get an 
order to make them make public security updates for Windows to 
everyone, registered or not.


The idea is that their product Windows creates a toxic byproduct 
(spam,ddos zombies) that interfere with everyone else's internet 
usage and that they have a responsibility to clean it up. It would be 
similar to a suit where a business that is otherwise legitimate 
attracts crime in a neighborhood or a manufacturer dumping toxic 
waste into a stream.


Virus infected spam zombie are a toxic byproduct of their business 
model and it affects all of us and they have a duty to the public to 
fix it. I'm somewhat of a legal expert, not a lawyer though. But just 
wanted to get some feedback on the idea.




Good luck! As it is now, Windows is the most widely used platform at 
present. That is the reason it is the most widely attacked. If Mac OSX 
or any other platform were to rise up and be dominant, then guess what 
would happen? Yes. That platform would be the one most widely attacked.


So, should the other OS platforms start to take action now in 
preparing for an OS mainstream shift?
I don't buy the hypothesis that if another OS would be more popular it 
would automatically be such a sieve like Windows. A system can be 
intrinsically more secure due to the choices that were made during its 
development.


Suing MS, I would say: Go for it! By all means. Maybe they can also die 
the death of a thousand cuts.


Jo


Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread Marc Perkel



Duane Hill wrote:

Marc Perkel wrote:
I'm considering filing a lawsuit against Microsoft to try to get an 
order to make them make public security updates for Windows to 
everyone, registered or not.


The idea is that their product Windows creates a toxic byproduct 
(spam,ddos zombies) that interfere with everyone else's internet 
usage and that they have a responsibility to clean it up. It would be 
similar to a suit where a business that is otherwise legitimate 
attracts crime in a neighborhood or a manufacturer dumping toxic 
waste into a stream.


Virus infected spam zombie are a toxic byproduct of their business 
model and it affects all of us and they have a duty to the public to 
fix it. I'm somewhat of a legal expert, not a lawyer though. But just 
wanted to get some feedback on the idea.




Good luck! As it is now, Windows is the most widely used platform at 
present. That is the reason it is the most widely attacked. If Mac OSX 
or any other platform were to rise up and be dominant, then guess what 
would happen? Yes. That platform would be the one most widely attacked.


So, should the other OS platforms start to take action now in 
preparing for an OS mainstream shift?


My opinion is that security patches should be available to everyone so 
as not to create an army of zombies. Aren't OS-X patches openly available?




It works great, but looking for advise...

2006-10-23 Thread Jon D. Slater








Hi All,

 

I’m using:

 

70_sare_adult.cf

70_sare_specific.cf

70_sare_stocks.cf

 

What rule set do you suggest for the spoof Paypal and eBay
spam (and assorted fake links to assorted banks and credit unions).

 

Thanks!

 

Jon








Re: I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread Duane Hill

Marc Perkel wrote:
I'm considering filing a lawsuit against Microsoft to try to get an 
order to make them make public security updates for Windows to 
everyone, registered or not.


The idea is that their product Windows creates a toxic byproduct 
(spam,ddos zombies) that interfere with everyone else's internet usage 
and that they have a responsibility to clean it up. It would be 
similar to a suit where a business that is otherwise legitimate 
attracts crime in a neighborhood or a manufacturer dumping toxic waste 
into a stream.


Virus infected spam zombie are a toxic byproduct of their business 
model and it affects all of us and they have a duty to the public to 
fix it. I'm somewhat of a legal expert, not a lawyer though. But just 
wanted to get some feedback on the idea.




Good luck! As it is now, Windows is the most widely used platform at 
present. That is the reason it is the most widely attacked. If Mac OSX 
or any other platform were to rise up and be dominant, then guess what 
would happen? Yes. That platform would be the one most widely attacked.


So, should the other OS platforms start to take action now in preparing 
for an OS mainstream shift?


Re: Concerned with scores for from rfc-ignorant.org

2006-10-23 Thread Peter H. Lemieux

Elizabeth Schwartz wrote:
IMHO if a rule is getting legit email tagged as SPAM it should be toned 
down. Obeying the RFC's is a good thing, but I am trying to tune our 
spam filter to filter spam, not to be a netcop. Our particular contact 
seems to have gotten onto rfc-ignorant's list because it is rejecting 
mail from <>, nothing to do with sending spam, and it's a legitimate 
site, neither a spammer nor an ISP (nor in a computer related field, nor 
English speaking...)


It seems to me you have a couple of different options, Betsy.  You can 
reduce the score attached to all mail that trips the rfc-ignorant rule, 
you can set it to zero and deactivate the rule entirely, or you can 
whitelist particular senders in a custom .cf file.  I usually choose the 
latter route, most often based on the Received headers.  For instance,


header RCVD_FROM_HARVARDReceived =~ /from .*\.harvard\.edu \(/i
score RCVD_FROM_HARVARD -5

matches the Received header added by sendmail.  If you're using a 
different MTA, you'll need to write a rule customized to the headers it 
adds.  (Note the escaped periods and parenthesis in the regex.)


You might drop a note to the postmaster box at that domain and tell them 
they're listed in rfc-ignorant.  I bet they haven't got a clue, and some 
of their other legitimate messages aren't being delivered.


Peter



CC: in body of email causes message to be blocked

2006-10-23 Thread Steven Danneman
Hello,

We have recently changed our email hosting provider and our new provider
uses SpamAssassin on our mail server.  SpamAssassin is being run through
CPanel 10, and when enabling it I receive these configuration details:

--

Attempting to enable SpamAssassin...

X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on
server4.virtuosonetsolutions.com
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=12.0
tests=AWL,BAYES_05,MISSING_SUBJECT,
NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS,TO_CC_NONE autolearn=no version=3.1.7
From: "Spam Assassin"

Spam Assassin has been enabled on this account


SpamAssassin is now: enabled

--

When we have SpamAssassin enabled, we are unable to receive some
messages.  I've narrowed down the problem to any message with the three
characters 'C' 'C' ':' (I've separated them so I can send this message
out) in the body of the message.  When any email address
sends us a message with this in the body, the message seems to be
rejected by our mail server.  The original sender of the message is not
notified, and no message, not even one with re-written headers and a
SPAM score comes to the recipient.

When I turn off SpamAssassin, these messages are received fine.  So it
seems obvious that SpamAssassin is blocking messages with 'C' 'C' ':' in
their body, but this doesn't seem to be a filter rule, because no
message gets through, even when I have SpamAssassin set to forward all
messages.

I'm guessing SpamAssassin is misconfigured, unfortunately I don't have
much access to its configuration, only what is available through
CPanel.  Does anybody have any ideas what could be happening here?

-- 
Best regards,

Steven Danneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ITTIA - Mobile and Embedded Database Solutions

425 462 0046  | direct
425 462 0048  | fax

Download a free evaluation of ITTIA DB at:
http://www.ittia.com/community/request/ittiadb





Re: Concerned with scores for from rfc-ignorant.org

2006-10-23 Thread Jo Rhett

Elizabeth Schwartz wrote:

IMHO if a rule is getting legit email tagged as SPAM it should be toned
down. Obeying the RFC's is a good thing, but I am trying to tune our spam
filter to filter spam, not to be a netcop.


Then you should disable these BLs in your configuration.

Don't suggest to others that these should be disabled.  Do it yourself. 
 Pretty much everyone here is aware that these are policy-enforcement, 
not spam detection, and if they have them enabled it is because they 
find that to be useful.


You should take this time to go read the objectives of each of the BLs 
you have enabled and decide if their policy matches your objectives.


--
Jo Rhett
Senior Network Engineer
Network Consonance


Re: Concerned with scores for from rfc-ignorant.org

2006-10-23 Thread Kris Deugau
Elizabeth Schwartz wrote:
> JADP - the rfc-ignorant rules lost us some important email today. The
> customer was throwing away all mail tagged as SPAM after many months of
> no false positives. I've turned those rules off on my site, and continue
> as always to encourage my users to check their tagged mail before
> tossing it.

*nod*  The *ONLY* mail I autodiscard immediately is mail tagged as a
virus - and even there I'm cautious.  Spam is tagged, and filed in a
separate folder.  I *do* have autoexpiry processes set up to keep the
spam folders from growing out of control, but the shortest period they
run on is 7 days.

> IMHO if a rule is getting legit email tagged as SPAM it should be toned
> down.

And that's one of the real benfits of SpamAssassin;  you *can* do just
that.  If one rule is persistently misfiring on your particular mail
flow, you can score it down or zero it out completely.  If you're
getting really poor scoring across the board, you could even go to the
effort of completely rerunning the entire scoreset to customize it to
your mail flow.  I don't know of many commercial products you could do
that with.

A few years ago, I was seeing FPs on whitelist_from_rcvd for PayPal
(IIRC - it's been a while.)  So I temporarily overrode that whitelist entry.

 Obeying the RFC's is a good thing, but I am trying to tune our
> spam filter to filter spam, not to be a netcop. Our particular contact
> seems to have gotten onto rfc-ignorant's list because it is rejecting
> mail from <>

... which is a *REALLY* bad thing for a mail server to do.

I don't reject mail outright from many systems, but rejecting legitimate
postmaster notices (which are, by definition, generated with the null
sender "<>") is high on my trigger list once a system has been seen
doing other unsavoury things to their mail flow.  I wonder if they ever
read mail sent *to* [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I regularly see remote systems refusing mail delivery notices
(autogenerated by the server that delivers the message to the
appropriate inbox **if requested by the sender** - IIRC Outlook can
request this notice).

On the other side of this debate, I refuse to let client MUAs use the
null sender;  I can't think of any reasons they should ever do so.  Read
receipts should be sent using the usual sender address, so that if the
recipient(s server) bounces it, it goes back where it belongs (ie,
**NOT** in my postmaster mailbox).

-kgd


I'm thinking about suing Microsoft

2006-10-23 Thread Marc Perkel
I'm considering filing a lawsuit against Microsoft to try to get an 
order to make them make public security updates for Windows to everyone, 
registered or not.


The idea is that their product Windows creates a toxic byproduct 
(spam,ddos zombies) that interfere with everyone else's internet usage 
and that they have a responsibility to clean it up. It would be similar 
to a suit where a business that is otherwise legitimate attracts crime 
in a neighborhood or a manufacturer dumping toxic waste into a stream.


Virus infected spam zombie are a toxic byproduct of their business model 
and it affects all of us and they have a duty to the public to fix it. 
I'm somewhat of a legal expert, not a lawyer though. But just wanted to 
get some feedback on the idea.





RE: CGPSA

2006-10-23 Thread Bret Miller
> am using CGPro as mail server, and i need some help and advice
> I am planning to implement CGPSA on our ingate servers and am
> not quite sure if it is a good idea
> we recieve almost 7000 email per hour and i don't know if
> spamassassin is going to miss anything
> another question
> for the amount of emails mentioned above am i supposed to configure
> CGPSA as in HEADERS or FULL mode
>
> any help on that regard will be appreciated

That's a fairly high volume, but assuming you've set it up to handle
that load, it shouldn't be a problem either way. If you're using network
tests, you'll probably need local copies of any DNSBL and URIBL zones so
there isn't a delay in querying external servers for it.

As for headers only vs full mode, there are pros and cons of each.

We run in headers-only mode here. Global configuration for everyone,
every message gets scanned and tagged. There's a bug in the add-header
routine in CGPSA that will try to add more header information to a
message than CGPro will allow. I've submitted a code fix for that
problem for the next version.

In full mode, each domain and user can have individual settings. This
can be helpful if you have users who are interested in changing scores,
whitelisting people or whatever. Our users just want us to stop the spam
without any effort on their part. Full mode requires PWD/CLI access to
the server so it can check recipients. By default, only recipients with
local accounts are scanned, not forwarders, lists, groups, or any other
non-user account recipient. Even so, I think the majority of
installations use this mode.

I do believe there are some high-volume installations. You might have
better luck with feedback if you posted on the CGPSA discussion list
instead.

HTH,
Bret





Re: R: Psst!

2006-10-23 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Thu, October 19, 2006 13:41, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:
>> Place it In your signature e.g. on multiple Mailinglists/Forums?
> Well, that way somebody would be tempted to use it.
> You mean, I have to write something like:
> "Plase, do NOT send here: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> ?

no that will be obivious :-)

see the whole mail where @ is hidded, spammers don't care where it is

if i tell more spammers will die :-)

-- 
"This message was sent using 100% recycled spam mails."



Re: Anyone had the pleasure of this one?

2006-10-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Yes, I've gotten that one recently.. It's funny, but it's just another
virus.

The one I got was missed by all 3 AV products I use  (clam, bitdefender,
command). I submitted it to clamav and it's now caught as a variant of
trojan-small.

David Baron wrote:
> (Virus attachment removed)
>
> --  Forwarded Message  --
>
> Subject: Mail server report.
> Date: Saturday 21 October 2006 18:42
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Mail server report.
>
> Our firewall determined the e-mails containing worm copies are being sent
>  from your computer.
>
> Nowadays it happens from many computers, because this is a new virus type
>  (Network Worms).
>
>
> Using the new bug in the Windows, these viruses infect the computer
>  unnoticeably. After the penetrating into the computer the virus harvests all
>  the e-mail addresses and sends the copies of itself to these e-mail
>  addresses
>
> Please install updates for worm elimination and your computer restoring.
>
> Best regards,
> Customers support service
>
> ---
>
>   



ixHash Timeout

2006-10-23 Thread Chris
I've been seeing this quite a bit lately, is the site down or do the 
timeouts need to be increased?  Its currently set for the default 10 
seconds.

Oct 21 12:28:03 localhost spamd[19162]: ixhash timeout reached 
at /etc/mail/spamassassin/iXhash.pm line 91. 
Oct 21 12:28:03 localhost spamd[19162]: ixhash timeout reached 
at /etc/mail/spamassassin/iXhash.pm line 91. 

-- 
Chris


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order of precedence for loading configuration?

2006-10-23 Thread OpenMacNews

after running:

sa-update --channel updates.spamassassin.org

and, reading:

% man spamassassin
  Default configuration data is loaded from the first existing 
directory

   in:
   /usr/local/spamassassin/var/spamassassin/3.001007
   /var/MailServer/Conf/SA/Dist
   /usr/local/spamassassin/share/spamassassin
   /usr/local/share/spamassassin
   /usr/share/spamassassin

checking in:

% ls /usr/local/spamassassin/var/spamassassin/3.001007
updates_spamassassin_org/
updates_spamassassin_org.pre
updates_spamassassin_org.cf

and, verifying:

	% cat 
/usr/local/spamassassin/var/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassin_org.cf

# UPDATE version 431276
include updates_spamassassin_org/10_misc.cf
...

	% ls -al 
/usr/local/spamassassin/var/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassin_org/10_misc.cf
		-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 5500 Oct 21 12:05 
/usr/local/spamassassin/var/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassin_org/10_misc.cf


% ls -al /var/MailServer/Conf/SA/Dist/10_misc.cf
		-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 5686 Oct 19 10:46 
/var/MailServer/Conf/SA/Dist/10_misc.cf


a successful --lint, reports:

...
[25198] dbg: config: read file /var/MailServer/Conf/SA/Dist/10_misc.cf
...

BUT, per the man page, should not the 10_misc.cf be loaded 
first/preferentially from 
/usr/local/spamassassin/var/spamassassin/3.001007?


thanks



Net-DNS problem with SpamAssassin.

2006-10-23 Thread Piyush Panchal



I have SpamAssassin-3.1.7 with Postfix MTA  on 
RHEL 3.0. 
 
I have found following failure message in my 
postfix log file. I believe that problem is happened when i updated 
Net::DNS perl module from CPAN. Yet SpamAssassin is working perfectly with 
postfix MTA without any problem
 
Oct 23 11:07:10 linux spamd[16790]: Can't use 
string ("Net::DNS::RR::MX") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/Net/DNS/RR.pm line 
724.Oct 23 11:07:10 linux spamd[16790]: Can't use string 
("Net::DNS::RR::MX") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/Net/DNS/RR.pm line 
724.Oct 23 11:07:10 linux spamd[16790]: Compilation failed in require at 
(eval 225) line 3.Oct 23 11:07:10 linux spamd[16790]: Can't use string 
("Net::DNS::RR::MX") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/Net/DNS/RR.pm line 
724.Oct 23 11:07:10 linux spamd[16790]: Compilation failed in require at 
(eval 225) line 3.Oct 23 11:07:10 linux spamd[16790]: plugin: eval failed: 
Can't use string ("Net::DNS::RR::MX") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use 
at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/Net/DNS/RR.pm line 
724.Oct 23 11:07:10 linux spamd[16790]: Compilation failed in require at 
(eval 225) line 3.
 
Oct 23 11:04:37 linux spamd[15293]: spf: lookup failed: Can't use 
string ("Net::DNS::RR::MX") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/Net/DNS/RR.pm line 724, 
 line 132.
 
Thanks,
Piyush Panchal


[Solved]

2006-10-23 Thread Magnus Anderson
I have solved my problem with this.

I used CGPSA v 1.4f and the developer has completed v 1.5 that now
supports MySQL DB for all the user_auto_whitelist data.

--Magnus



Re: Pyzor problem

2006-10-23 Thread Kelson

Mark wrote:

In Pyzor.pm, "internal error" is actually a mask for the infamous error:

"Traceback (most recent call last): ..."


Yeah, there are certain types of input that Pyzor chokes on, like 
messages with bogus character encodings.  Unfortunately, development 
stopped before it was fixed to gracefully handle these conditions, and 
no one seems to have picked it up to patch it.


--
Kelson Vibber
SpeedGate Communications 


Re: Custom scores -- how to..

2006-10-23 Thread Debbie D
Thanks for confirming that :)



"Bowie Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Debbie D wrote:
>> Can someone please remind me how to create custom scores for existing
>> rules?? I do not want to manually go in and change any particular
>> score, any update will over ride that.. I want to manually change
>> them to hit on a higher [or lower as the case might be] score.
>>
>> If memory serves, I THINK I simply need to add a SCORE rule to my
>> customlist and restart exim???
>>
>> So as an example.. in sare-stocks the score set is like so:
>> scoreSARE_MLH_Stock11.66
>>
>> But I want to score that higher.. do I add
>>
>> scoreSARE_MLH_Stock15.55
>> to my custom list and restart exim??
>>
>> thanks
>
> Yep.
>
> Usually you just add the new score line to your local.cf file.
>
> -- 
> Bowie
> 





Re: Psst!

2006-10-23 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Thu, October 19, 2006 13:19, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:
> Any suggestion to spread a spamtrap e-mail address?

just post on a mail list and your email will be scanned by pfishers into there
crap maillists where thay sell all kinds of things, maybe even thay use YOUR
email just for sending out spam to pretend is was sent by you

so what you need is just post on a mail list then wait :-)

> Plase, don't let 'em know...

i will

-- 
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SA-Update error messages

2006-10-23 Thread John Andersen
Everytime my SA-Update runs the output from the cron job shows these lines:


Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 91.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 91.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 91.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 92.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 92.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 92.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 93.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 93.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 93.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 94.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 94.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 94.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 95.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 95.
Use of uninitialized value in eval "string" at /usr/bin/sa-update line 95.

Which refer to these lines in sa-update:

eval { use Net::DNS; };
eval { use LWP::UserAgent; };
eval { use HTTP::Date qw(time2str); };
eval { use Archive::Tar 1.23; };
eval { use IO::Zlib 1.04; };


Whats up with that?


-- 
_
John Andersen


Re: Anyone had the pleasure of this one?

2006-10-23 Thread Gary V

It's just some bull.
Any good postmaster should know that you will never ever send a return 
message now a days when it comes to a virus.

Seen it, and sent it to the round long-time-burning-and-forget storage.

/Micke

David Baron wrote:

(Virus attachment removed)

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Mail server report.
Date: Saturday 21 October 2006 18:42
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mail server report.

Our firewall determined the e-mails containing worm copies are being sent
 from your computer.

Nowadays it happens from many computers, because this is a new virus type
 (Network Worms).


Using the new bug in the Windows, these viruses infect the computer
 unnoticeably. After the penetrating into the computer the virus harvests 
all

 the e-mail addresses and sends the copies of itself to these e-mail
 addresses

Please install updates for worm elimination and your computer restoring.

Best regards,
Customers support service

---



I received this same one a couple weeks ago. You know, if you go to all the 
trouble of creating a virus, wouldn't you want to at least do a believable 
job with your grammar?


Gary V

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finish() method on the status objects

2006-10-23 Thread Joe Flowers

Hello everyone!  :)

Can I get away with this without any memory or resource leaks? Is this OK?

Thanks!

Joe


  my $spamtest = Mail::SpamAssassin->new();
  my $status = $spamtest->check($spamtest->parse($message));

  if ($status->is_spam()) {
$message = $status->rewrite_mail();
  }
  else {
...
  }
  ...

  $status->finish();


 PLEASE NOTICE the missing lines:

  my $mail = $spamtest->parse($message);
and
  $mail->finish();




The docs at 
(http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.1.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin.html) 
say the following.


  my $spamtest = Mail::SpamAssassin->new();
  my $mail = $spamtest->parse($message);
  my $status = $spamtest->check($mail);

  if ($status->is_spam()) {
$message = $status->rewrite_mail();
  }
  else {
...
  }
  ...

  $status->finish();
  $mail->finish();


$status = $f->check ($mail)


Note that the Mail::SpamAssassin object can be re-used for further 
messages without affecting this check; in OO terminology, the 
Mail::SpamAssassin object is a ``factory''. However, if you do this, be 
sure to call the finish() method on the status objects when you're done 
with them.




//End.


CC: in body of email causes message to be blocked

2006-10-23 Thread Steven Danneman
Hello,

We have recently changed our email hosting provider and our new provider
uses SpamAssassin on our mail server.  SpamAssassin is being run through
CPanel 10, and when enabling it I receive these configuration details:

--

Attempting to enable SpamAssassin...

X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on
server4.virtuosonetsolutions.com
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=12.0
tests=AWL,BAYES_05,MISSING_SUBJECT,
NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS,TO_CC_NONE autolearn=no version=3.1.7
From: "Spam Assassin"

Spam Assassin has been enabled on this account


SpamAssassin is now: enabled

--

When we have SpamAssassin enabled, we are unable to receive some
messages.  I've narrowed down the problem to any message with the three
characters 'C' 'C' ':' (I've separated them so I can send this message
out) in the body of the message.  When any email address
sends us a message with this in the body, the message seems to be
rejected by our mail server.  The original sender of the message is not
notified, and no message, not even one with re-written headers and a
SPAM score comes to the recipient.

When I turn off SpamAssassin, these messages are received fine.  So it
seems obvious that SpamAssassin is blocking messages with 'C' 'C' ':' in
their body, but this doesn't seem to be a filter rule, because no
message gets through, even when I have SpamAssassin set to forward all
messages.

I'm guessing SpamAssassin is misconfigured, unfortunately I don't have
much access to its configuration, only what is available through
CPanel.  Does anybody have any ideas what could be happening here?

-- 
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ITTIA - Mobile and Embedded Database Solutions

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Re: Anyone had the pleasure of this one?

2006-10-23 Thread John Thompson
On 2006-10-21, David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --  Forwarded Message  --
>
> Mail server report.
>
> Our firewall determined the e-mails containing worm copies are being sent
>  from your computer.
>
> Nowadays it happens from many computers, because this is a new virus type
>  (Network Worms).
>
>
> Using the new bug in the Windows, these viruses infect the computer
>  unnoticeably. After the penetrating into the computer the virus harvests all
>  the e-mail addresses and sends the copies of itself to these e-mail
>  addresses
>
> Please install updates for worm elimination and your computer restoring.
>
> Best regards,
> Customers support service

Yes, I remember getting ones like this a couple years ago already. 
Amusing, since they implied that I should apply their Windows updates to 
my FreeBSD system.

-- 

John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: auto-whitelist and MySQL Problems

2006-10-23 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Sat, October 21, 2006 21:18, Magnus Anderson wrote:

> The Bayes are working, but the AWL are not.

is AWL plugin loaded in ?

> Is there some problem in SA 3.14 for this?

not to what i know of

-- 
"This message was sent using 100% recycled spam mails."



Re: a

2006-10-23 Thread Chris Purves
On Friday 20 October 2006 02:53, Angel L. Mateo wrote:
> Hello,
>
>   I am using spamassassin with postfix and amavis on a debian sarge
> server. The versions I use are:
>
> * postfix: 2.1.5
> * amavisd-new
> * spamassassin: 3.1.0a
>
>   The problem I have is that emails sent by one of my users is always
> tagged as spam, although messages aren't spam. The spamassassin flags in
> the received email are:
>
> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at telemat.um.es
> X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=9.5 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0
> tests=ALL_TRUSTED, AWL
> X-Spam-Level: *
> X-Spam-Flag: YES
>
>   As you can see, the only matching tests are:
>
> * ALL_TRUSTED: because the mail has only pass through trusted servers
> (in fact, just my mail server).
> * AWL: auto whitelist. According to the documentation, I think that this
> is just a history of the score of his mails.
>
>   Why could be the reason for this wrong tagging?
>
>   As far as I can guess, the problem could be the AWL (I think that this
> user is the same that had a problem some months ago with a worm virus
> sending a lot of emails), but I run:
>
> spamassassin --remove-addr-from-whitelist=
>
>   And the problem was still there.
>
>   Any help?

Do you use global AWL or per user?  If it's per user then perhaps you ran 
spamassassin --remove-addr-from-whitelist= from your root account, 
in which case only e-mails sent to the root account will have the AWL reset.

-- 
Take care,
Chris


Re: Scoring PTR's

2006-10-23 Thread Jo Rhett

David B Funk wrote:

On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Jo Rhett wrote:


Richard Frovarp wrote:

Or for any machine that hosts more domains than has IPs. Even being able
to edit the reverse doesn't mean it will always be the same.

How many different names does your mailserver use in its HELO?

And what mailserver is that?  That's not possible in qmail, postfix,
sendmail, et al...


You're a bit behind the times Jo, check out the 'h' argument to
'ClientPortOptions' or the 'HeloName' variable in sendmail 8.13.


I can find no documentation of either.  Googling just gets me lots of 
examples of a script called SendMail()


Looking at the code, heloname would appear to be statically defined, 
which brings me back to my original point: how many names does his 
mailserver use in helo?


Sure, if it has 3 interfaces (and uses them all) then he'll need three 
names.  But he won't need 1000 or however many virtual hosts he has...


--
Jo Rhett
Network/Software Engineer
Net Consonance


Spam using local newspapers

2006-10-23 Thread Maurice Lucas
Hello,

I receive some spam today using parts of local newspapers.
Just a mixup from some articals put together so my Bayes won't mark it
as spam.

This is my first time I see spam using local (Dutch) newspapers for
this. Normally it is a English random text.

Am I the only one seeing this or are there more (Dutch) users seeing
this.

-- 
With kind regards,

Maurice Lucas
TAOS-IT



Re: This image is turning frequent..

2006-10-23 Thread Paul Lenz
Steve Lake  raiden.net> writes:

> Yeah, I'm seeing that too.  Any ideas on how to do that?  

I just wrote a little program which
- examines a GIF animation and stores its size
- stores delay time, size, left offset, and top offset of each single picture
- calls gifasm to extract the single pictures
- calls giftopnm to convert them into PNM files
- creates one empty PNM according to the size of the GIF file
- copies the content of each single PNM file according to its offsets
  into the empty PNM file
- stops working if the delay time is much bigger then the previous ones
- saves the PNM file

After that I got a PNM file which looks exactly like the GIF animation
when it has finished to move. This PNM file can be passed to GOCR and
converted into plain text with good results.


Paul Lenz




SA barfing on some messages?

2006-10-23 Thread Joe Flowers

Do you guys ever get parse() to bail out on a message?
I seem to get that every once in a while.

my $mail = $spamtest->parse($message);

Thanks!

Joe


Re: Spamassassin effectiveness, BAYES_99

2006-10-23 Thread Matthias Haegele

Michael Beckmann schrieb:

Greetings!


Hello!

In the past few weeks, I have noticed significant amounts of spam 
passing through my filter. It is reaching a level that annoys me. I use 
Spamassassin 3.1.7.


I used to get maybe one or two spam messages a day earlier this year 
with 200+ spams filtered. Now I get 10 to 20 spams per day that are not 
automatically filtered (while something like 300+ are filtered.) Did 
anybody else notice this? Are spammers becoming more effective in 
working around SpamAssassin?


I examined the spam, and it seems that the majority of the messages 
score BAYES_99 and nothing or hardly anything else. BAYES_99 is not 
enough to filter the messages. I use the standard threshold of 5.


Oh you are lucky, often such messages here only score BAYES_80 or 
BAYES_50 (bayes is trained nearly daily ...).



I have been tempted to increase the BAYES_99 score to 5. I have seen 
that only very few ham messages of the newsletter type ever score 
BAYES_99 in my inbox.


Do others make similar observations? How do you deal with this?


As others suggested i would try to set the treshold near 4.0.
(I had some false-positives with list-mails see bottom, (but bayes was 
BAYES_00) but with no "regular-off-list-mails").



I am considering a "custom rule" to give messages with urls e.g. a score 
of say 1.0, to get those message which hit no other rules but bayes_99 
over the treshold. How do you think about this (i know it would also 
affect many ham-mails but since these usually dont get "other scores" it 
might not be dangerous?)


Is someone using such a rule and can give an example?


Thanks,

Michael


Greetings and hth
MH

a "false-positive" list-mail:

Content preview:  Yes, spamassassin definitely RULES! ;-D RE: Spamassassin
  Rules Yes, spamassassin definitely RULES! ;-D [...] 


Content analysis details:   (4.3 points, 5.0 required)

 pts rule name  description
 -- --
 1.7 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO  Received: contains an IP address used for HELO
-2.3 BAYES_00   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
[score: 0.0020]
 1.5 HTML_SHORT_LENGTH  BODY: HTML is extremely short
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 3.5 FORGED_OUTLOOK_TAGSOutlook can't send HTML in this format
-0.1 AWLAWL: From: address is in the auto white-list





Does skip_rbl_checks have influence on razor 2 and DCC?

2006-10-23 Thread Volker

Hi,

does anybody know if disabling "skip_rbl_checks" does stop razor 2 
checks and DCC too even if razor2 and dcc are enabled in local.cf?


Best regards

Volker


Bayes ?

2006-10-23 Thread Noc Phibee

Hi

he have a spam file for add to a new SA installation ? for don't start at 0

Thanks for your answer


click here

2006-10-23 Thread Benny Pedersen

Subject: Need software? Click here.


right click in subject line to see the webpage, with browsers support this :-)

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Re: Concerned with scores for from rfc-ignorant.org

2006-10-23 Thread Elizabeth Schwartz
JADP - the rfc-ignorant rules lost us some important email today. The customer was throwing away all mail tagged as SPAM after many months of no false positives. I've turned those rules off on my site, and continue as always to encourage my users to check their tagged mail before tossing it. 
IMHO if a rule is getting legit email tagged as SPAM it should be toned down. Obeying the RFC's is a good thing, but I am trying to tune our spam filter to filter spam, not to be a netcop. Our particular contact seems to have gotten onto rfc-ignorant's list because it is rejecting mail from <>, nothing to do with sending spam, and it's a legitimate site, neither a spammer nor an ISP (nor in a computer related field, nor English speaking...)
Betsy


Re: Anyone had the pleasure of this one?

2006-10-23 Thread David Baron
I had several of them. The first one apparently was the one I forwarded.
The others all got flagged by clamav so the updated signatures must have come 
in between the posts.
> Yes, I've gotten that one recently.. It's funny, but it's just another
> virus.
>
> The one I got was missed by all 3 AV products I use  (clam, bitdefender,
> command). I submitted it to clamav and it's now caught as a variant of
> trojan-small.
>
> David Baron wrote:
> > (Virus attachment removed)
> >
> > --  Forwarded Message  --
> >
> > Subject: Mail server report.
> > Date: Saturday 21 October 2006 18:42
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Mail server report.
> >
> > Our firewall determined the e-mails containing worm copies are being sent
> >  from your computer.
> >
> > Nowadays it happens from many computers, because this is a new virus type
> >  (Network Worms).
> >
> >
> > Using the new bug in the Windows, these viruses infect the computer
> >  unnoticeably. After the penetrating into the computer the virus harvests
> > all the e-mail addresses and sends the copies of itself to these e-mail
> > addresses
> >
> > Please install updates for worm elimination and your computer restoring.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Customers support service
> >
> > ---


Re: Installing URIDNSBL

2006-10-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Terry Allen wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm a long time SA user - my system runs Mac OSX 10.4.x, running
> Postfix, Maia Mailguard, ClamAV, Amavisd-new & now SpamAssassin 3.1.7
> since upgrading 4 days ag, the SA installation intercepts all inbound
> mail for scanning prior to delivery.
> Recently, I've discovered the URIDNSBL plugin & I am wondering if
> this is installed as part of the SA installation procedure or if it's
> an optional extra.
Part of all versions of SA 3.0.0 or higher. Just make sure the plugin
line for it is not commented out in your init.pre, and make sure you
have a fairly recent Net::DNS.


Re: DNS lookup plugin?

2006-10-23 Thread mouss

Chris St. Pierre wrote:

I use Postfix and, for a while, I had reject_unknown_hostname as part
of my smtpd_helo_restrictions.  For those who aren't familiar,
reject_unknown_hostname will:

Reject the request when the hostname in the client HELO (EHLO) command
has no DNS A or MX record.

This was insanely effective; SpamAssassin started to get lonely while
I had this enabled.  I was dropping massive amounts of spam at
connection time -- but, unfortunately, I had a fair number of FPs as
well, due to misconfigurations, or, more frequently than I'd hoped,
mail outsourcing firms giving a bogus HELO.  (That is, mail from
foobar.com, outsourced to sendmailstupidly.com, would give "HELO
mail.foobar.com" -- which doesn't exist.)

I'd love to get this behavior in a SpamAssassin plugin so that the FPs
would have a better chance of getting through.  Does something like
this exist, or do I need to rev up my Perl?
  


try policyd-weight. it's a score based policy server for postfix.


rules to catch mangled phone numbers

2006-10-23 Thread Ramprasad
Is it possible to write a quick rule to catch phone numbers mangled with
[\- *] in between

Like these
1--314--414---4001

If someone is writing phonenumbers this way there is enough reason to
believe he is a spammer

Thanks
Ram






Re: Installing URIDNSBL

2006-10-23 Thread Terry Allen

On Friday, October 20, 2006, 9:26:29 PM, Terry Allen wrote:

 Hi all,
 I'm a long time SA user - my system runs Mac OSX 10.4.x,
 running Postfix, Maia Mailguard, ClamAV, Amavisd-new & now
 SpamAssassin 3.1.7 since upgrading 4 days ag, the SA installation
 intercepts all inbound mail for scanning prior to delivery.
 Recently, I've discovered the URIDNSBL plugin & I am
 wondering if this is installed as part of the SA installation
 procedure or if it's an optional extra.
 If it's an optional extra, can anyone let me know how to
 install it or point me to a how-to to get it running successfully
 with SA - many thanks for any help with this.



Hi Terry,
uridnsbl is a standard part of SA starting with version 3.  To
enable it you need to install a recent version of the perl module
Net::DNS and you need to enable network tests.  Some references
are at:

  http://www.surbl.org/faq.html#nettest

Jeff C.

Hi again,
	Thanks for the reply Jeff - Net::DNS is installed on my 
server - is there some way to determine whether the URIDNSBL plugin 
is working?

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Re: Spamassassin effectiveness, BAYES_99

2006-10-23 Thread Chris Purves

R Lists06 wrote:
From: Benny Pedersen > 
i have changed bayes scores to catch most spam here, and changed threshold

to
learn spam / ham with less range so it more accurate and prevents bayes
poinson on the same time, just have them at scores so spam is still
autolearned, and ham is still autolearned, check that you don't have
whitelist
with -100 for spam mails :)

if you use whitelist from or whitelist at all make sure it will not
trigger
the bayes ham learnning on its own

if your bayes have nearly same count of spam / ham msgs its good

manualy learn helps aswell

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Im not sure I am following the whitelist comments above.

What do you mean and how do we prevent whitelisting from triggering the
bayes on its own.



If you have bayes auto-learning enabled, you can disable it for messages 
that are in your whitelist.  It is especially useful for the 
spamassassin mailing list, which often contains examples of spam, so you 
whitelist the mailing list, but you don't want those message to be 
auto-learned as ham.  In your local.cf:


whitelist_from_rcvd   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   apache.org   # SA List
bayes_ignore_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf for more bayes_ignore info


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Re: This image is turning frequent..

2006-10-23 Thread Paul Lenz
Steve Lake  raiden.net> writes:

> Yeah, I'm seeing that too.  Any ideas on how to do that?  For now 
> I've been falling back on a procmail hack to toss all messages with 
> images embedded in the HTML of the message into their own folder.

I just wrote a little program which 
- examinates GIF animation files
- detects the left and top offsets and the delay times
- calls gifasm to extract the single pictures
- calls giftopnm to convert the single pictures
- creates one PNM file according to the global width and height
- copies all the extracted PNM pictures into the big file
  according to the detected offsets
- stops working when the delay time of the current picture is 
  much bigger than the previous delay times
- saves the big PNM file

This PNM file looks exactly like the animation after it has
finished moving, and can be passed to GOCR with a good result.


Paul Lenz




RE: Psst!

2006-10-23 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Sat, October 21, 2006 17:04, Maurice Lucas wrote:

> So one stupid spammer did put smtp before the usernames.

spammer tested if the domain have catch all

now you can "grep User /var/log/maillog" if using postfix :-)

and then block the ip

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Re: Psst!

2006-10-23 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Thu, October 19, 2006 13:41, Matt Kettler wrote:

> Another thing I've been noticing recently.. some idiot has been culling
> the web archives of mailing lists, and is trying to send spam emails to
> MESSAGE ID's of posts I've made. Check your mail logs!

damm don't tell :-)

i have a whole subdomain as a spamtrap

so [EMAIL PROTECTED]

policyd[1] have .example.tld as spamtrap

> One or more of those would make a great spamtrap.

one should be enough :-)


[1] http://policyd.sourceforge.net/
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Re: FuzzyOCR and Animated GIFs

2006-10-23 Thread Nick Leverton
On Saturday 14 October 2006 02:24, Lee Manevitch wrote:
> I think I already know the answer to this, but does FuzzyOCR process
> all frames of an animated GIF?

Not out of the box, but it can do if you have a recent version of netpbm 
which supports "giftopnm -image=all".  There are two calls to giftopnm in 
FuzzyOCR.pm, add that option to them both.  I'm not sure when this option 
cam in: version 10.0 on Debian doesn't have it but version 10.25 on 
RHEL/CentOS does.

You will also want to change all occurrences of "$image_count gt" to 
say "$image_count >", and of "$image_count lt" to say "$image_count <"

Nick


Re: Anyone had the pleasure of this one?

2006-10-23 Thread David f.

David Baron wrote:

(Virus attachment removed)

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Mail server report.
Date: Saturday 21 October 2006 18:42
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mail server report.

Our firewall determined the e-mails containing worm copies are being sent
 from your computer.

Nowadays it happens from many computers, because this is a new virus type
 (Network Worms).


Using the new bug in the Windows, these viruses infect the computer
 unnoticeably. After the penetrating into the computer the virus harvests all
 the e-mail addresses and sends the copies of itself to these e-mail
 addresses

Please install updates for worm elimination and your computer restoring.

Best regards,
Customers support service

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Yep.  It hit a few of our clients a week or so ago.   Caused confusion 
for a while.  We still get some, but the AV catches them now so they are 
dropped by our front end MTAs.







Re: Re[4]: Any comments of the SpamHaus lawsuit?

2006-10-23 Thread Ramprasad

I got this on my google alerts 

Can anyone confirm 
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/technology/15809465.htm


CHICAGO - A federal judge presiding over a spam dispute rejected a
marketing company's request to suspend the domain name of an anti-spam
group that ignored an $11.7 million judgment against it.

U.S. District Court Judge Charles P. Kocoras denied a proposed motion
from e360 Insight, which sued the Spamhaus Project over its "black list"
of spammers. Wheeling, Ill.-based e360 Insight contends it is improperly
on the list because it is a direct marketer that does not send
unsolicited e-mail.

The Spamhaus Project did not bother defending itself and refused to
recognize Kocoras' $11.7 million judgment against it, saying the court
had no jurisdiction over the U.K.-based group. So e360 Insight asked
that the judge order the spamhaus.org domain suspended.

But Kocoras said Thursday that the requested action was too broad and
would cut off all lawful online activities of Spamhaus, not just those
targeted by any court order.

Service providers and others use Spamhaus' list to help identify which
messages to block, send to a "junk" folder or accept. Spamhaus claims
that more than 650 million Internet users benefit from its list of
spammers.





Horribly corrupted spam or new exploit attempt?

2006-10-23 Thread John Andersen
I've seen a couple different events in my logs where it would appear
the spam was so corrupted that postfix thought it had dozens of
message IDs and went into a cleanup frenzy:

Oct 21 15:40:06 pen postfix/cleanup[13571]: 3965B176A0: message-id=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
Oct 21 15:40:06 pen postfix/cleanup[13571]: 3965B176A0: message-id=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
Oct 21 15:40:06 pen postfix/cleanup[13571]: 3965B176A0: message-id=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
... huge snippage
Oct 21 15:40:06 pen postfix/cleanup[13571]: 3965B176A0: message-id=
Oct 21 15:40:06 pen postfix/cleanup[13571]: 3965B176A0: message-id=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
Oct 21 15:40:06 pen postfix/cleanup[13571]: 3965B176A0: message-id=Human Growth 
Hormone 
Oct 21 15:40:06 pen postfix/cleanup[13571]: 3965B176A0: message-id=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
Oct 21 15:40:06 pen postfix/cleanup[13571]: 3965B176A0: message-id=Hangover 
Pills 
Oct 21 15:40:06 pen postfix/cleanup[13571]: 3965B176A0: message-id=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>

It went on that way for what appears to be an entire html message.

[Un]fortunately that ever it was scored so high (37) it went to /dev/null and
I never saw the source.

Has anyone else seen this?

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Re: Installing URIDNSBL

2006-10-23 Thread Terry Allen

On Sat, October 21, 2006 06:26, Terry Allen wrote:


 if it's an optional extra, can anyone let me know how to
 install it or point me to a how-to to get it running successfully
 with SA - many thanks for any help with this.


find /etc/mail/spamassassin/ look for any file there ends with pre

there you can anable this plugin if needed

hope its same path on mac :-)

Hi again,
	Thanks Benny - hopefully as Jeff Chen's emailed indicates, 
it's a standard & I won't have to do anything to add it in.

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