Re: New community site based on t5

2007-12-14 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
And is that all T5 can do? This is very embarrassing indeed.

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T5: Quartz and the IoC Registry?

2007-12-14 Thread Andy Huhn
All,

I'd like to use Quartz with tapestry.  As such, I'd like to get a
reference to the Registry and pass it into a Tapestry service (so that I
can use it in my Quartz jobs to instantiate all of my DAOs and Hibernate
Sessions).

I saw some discussion here on the list a few days ago about the
Registry...it sounds like it's not exposed to services at all.  Is this
true?  Does anyone have any ideas how I can get a reference to it?

I have also thought about building a completely new registry inside this
service for all of the quartz jobs to use, but my guess is that there
would be quite an impact on the machine's resources.  Does anyone have a
good feel for how much memory I can expect to give up if I instantiate a
second instance of the Registry?

Thanks,
Andy

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Re: T4.1.3 - Upgrade Dojo

2007-12-14 Thread Matt Brock


Andreas Andreou wrote:
> 
> I just uploaded the docs, so you can now see what is possible with
> 4.1.4-SNAPSHOT at:
> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/ajax/beyonddojo.html
> 
> The adapter javascript file mentioned is:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tapestry/tapestry4/trunk/tapestry-framework/src/js/tapestry/skeleton/core.js
> 
> I'm aware we need more docs + an example implementation, but lack of
> time hasn't made this possible yet.
> 

I just wanted to say on behalf on Tap~4 users everywhere: thank you for your
efforts!
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T5: JumpStart 3.0.0 Preview ready for comments

2007-12-14 Thread Geoff Callender

Hi all,

I've reworked JumpStart to address Tapestry 5, and I need feedback on  
how to make it as good as it can be...


If you don't know JumpStart, its purpose is to get newcomers up-to- 
speed with Tapestry as fast as possible.  It's aim is to dispel the  
myth of Tapestry's steep learning curve by helping people get  
productive quickly.  The better that JumpStart is, the better I hope  
it will be for all the Tapestry community.


So, I'm looking for heaps of feedback on its strengths, weaknesses,  
choice of examples, quality of code, correctness, etc., anything that  
will make it more helpful to more people!


To get it, go to http://files.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart/ , click  
on Downloads, and look for jumpstart-min-3.0.0.preview.1.zip.


Cheers,

Geoff Callender
http://files.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart/

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Zone Component & update Grid

2007-12-14 Thread Moritz Gmelin

Hi,

I just tried the new Zone component which is just about great!

But when I tried to return a Block from my ActionListener that  
contains a Grid, I get the following Exception


org.apache.tapestry.runtime.ComponentEventException: No object of type  
org.apache.tapestry.services.Heartbeat is available from the  
Environment.  Available types are .


(...no types are listed here)

On the documentation about Zone I can read

"Inside a component, you should use Environmental, to highlight the  
fact that PageRenderSupport (like most environmental objects) is only  
available during rendering, not during action requests."


So is this expected behaviour, that a Grid cannot be returned by an  
ActionListener that is supposed to update a Zone component?
This would be an absolutely great feature to be able to update Grid's  
content in an AJAX fashion.


Thanks for clues.

Moritz

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Re: T4.1.3 - Upgrade Dojo

2007-12-14 Thread Martino Piccinato
That's great Andreas! Is there a plan to also provide a "standard"
adapter to dojo 1.0? the fact that this is called "beyonddojo" is
confusing :-)

On Dec 14, 2007 7:08 PM, Andreas Andreou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just uploaded the docs, so you can now see what is possible with
> 4.1.4-SNAPSHOT at:
> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/ajax/beyonddojo.html
>
> The adapter javascript file mentioned is:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tapestry/tapestry4/trunk/tapestry-framework/src/js/tapestry/skeleton/core.js
>
> I'm aware we need more docs + an example implementation, but lack of
> time hasn't made this possible yet.
> I'll let you know when related work resumes (hoping for middle of next week)
>
>
> On Dec 14, 2007 2:57 PM, Martino Piccinato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think it was my mail and in fact there was no clear date/plan to
> > upgrade to 1.0 (but maybe I misunderstood...).
> >
> > In fact it would be a great thing upgrading to 1.0 we tapestry4ers are
> > quite scared by the t5 only list traffic lately ;-)
> >
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> > On Dec 14, 2007 1:46 PM, Matt Brock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, it's  http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-1902 issue #1902 
> > >  in
> > > JIRA.  Andreas Andreou implied he was working on it in
> > > http://www.nabble.com/Moving-on-from-4.0.*-to13635906.html#a13636810 this
> > > post  in response to a similar question a month ago, but I haven't heard
> > > anything else since then.
> > >
> > >
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> > > >
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> > > > That's great. Has it been written on JIRA yet?
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Re: T4.1.3 - Upgrade Dojo

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Andreou
I just uploaded the docs, so you can now see what is possible with
4.1.4-SNAPSHOT at:
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4.1/ajax/beyonddojo.html

The adapter javascript file mentioned is:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tapestry/tapestry4/trunk/tapestry-framework/src/js/tapestry/skeleton/core.js

I'm aware we need more docs + an example implementation, but lack of
time hasn't made this possible yet.
I'll let you know when related work resumes (hoping for middle of next week)

On Dec 14, 2007 2:57 PM, Martino Piccinato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it was my mail and in fact there was no clear date/plan to
> upgrade to 1.0 (but maybe I misunderstood...).
>
> In fact it would be a great thing upgrading to 1.0 we tapestry4ers are
> quite scared by the t5 only list traffic lately ;-)
>
>
> On Dec 14, 2007 1:46 PM, Matt Brock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, it's  http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-1902 issue #1902  
> > in
> > JIRA.  Andreas Andreou implied he was working on it in
> > http://www.nabble.com/Moving-on-from-4.0.*-to13635906.html#a13636810 this
> > post  in response to a similar question a month ago, but I haven't heard
> > anything else since then.
> >
> >
> > Joshua Jackson-3 wrote:
> > >
> > > On 12/14/07, Matt Brock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > That's great. Has it been written on JIRA yet?
> > >
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New community site based on t5

2007-12-14 Thread Jonathan Glanz
If you'd like to see a new.site based on t5 goto www.wingmanfinder.com its 100 
percent free, so its just an example of what t5 can do
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Re: Adding extra rows to a BeanEditForm / extra columns to a Grid (T5!)

2007-12-14 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:44:11 -0200, Tobias Wehrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Hello Thiago,

great, works fine! Thank you very much - seems I overlooked the "this  
may be null for a synthetic or placeholder property" in the JavaDoc  
completly.


You're welcome! :)

Is there any way to get the grid to not display any name in the header  
of my synthetic column? I know how to change it, but giving null, an  
empty string or a whitespace results in a tapestry exception stating  
"Parameter label was null or contained only whitespace".


Well, in Tapestry 5.0.6, if you just add a column using BeanModel.add, it  
doesn't show any label, unless you have a -label entry  
in your app.properties.


On the other hand, you can do:

beanModel.add("action", null).label("any label you want, including an  
empty string.");


I've posted a related JIRA,  
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-1983, asking for a new  
parameter in Grid to add new columns without the need to create a  
BeanModel explicitly as we have to do now.


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Re: Adding extra rows to a BeanEditForm / extra columns to a Grid (T5!)

2007-12-14 Thread Tobias Wehrum

Hello Thiago,

great, works fine! Thank you very much - seems I overlooked the "this 
may be null for a synthetic or placeholder property" in the JavaDoc 
completly.


Is there any way to get the grid to not display any name in the header 
of my synthetic column? I know how to change it, but giving null, an 
empty string or a whitespace results in a tapestry exception stating 
"Parameter label was null or contained only whitespace".


Regards,
Tobias


Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo schrieb:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:57:54 -0200, Tobias Wehrum 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Tobias Wehrum schrieb:

Hello everyone!

Is there a way to add extra rows to a BeanEditForm and extra columns 
to a Grid - rows / columns which doesn't represent a property of the 
given model? I need it to edit or show values which are relevant for 
the model, but like I said not included in it, as well as present 
links in an own column like "edit", "delete", "move" etc..


Now, you need to create a BeanModel in your page class and pass it to 
the Grid:


@Inject
private BeanModelSource beanModelSource;

@Inject
private ComponentResources componentResources;

public BeanModel getBeanModel() {
BeanModel beanModel = 
beanModelSource.create(YourClassnameHere.class, false, 
componentResources);

beanModel.add("action", null); // action is just a name I chose.
return beanModel;
}

Then, inside your Grid, provide the template for your column:




Your links here! :)





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Re: Adding extra rows to a BeanEditForm / extra columns to a Grid (T5!)

2007-12-14 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:57:54 -0200, Tobias Wehrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Tobias Wehrum schrieb:

Hello everyone!

Is there a way to add extra rows to a BeanEditForm and extra columns to  
a Grid - rows / columns which doesn't represent a property of the given  
model? I need it to edit or show values which are relevant for the  
model, but like I said not included in it, as well as present links in  
an own column like "edit", "delete", "move" etc..


Now, you need to create a BeanModel in your page class and pass it to the  
Grid:


@Inject
private BeanModelSource beanModelSource;

@Inject
private ComponentResources componentResources;

public BeanModel getBeanModel() {
	BeanModel beanModel = beanModelSource.create(YourClassnameHere.class,  
false, componentResources);

beanModel.add("action", null); // action is just a name I chose.
return beanModel;
}

Then, inside your Grid, provide the template for your column:


	

Your links here! :)


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Re: Adding extra rows to a BeanEditForm / extra columns to a Grid

2007-12-14 Thread Daniel Jue
I did this for my application, which needed rows with some totals.  I didn't
want the totals row to get sorted with the other data, and I also wanted it
to look different.  You can't put this in an outside table, because it won't
line up!

So can extend Grid and in the html part simply allow a body component before
the loop that renders your column headers and data.  In your main page you
can insert your custom row with controls, etc.

The bad part is you can't have something above and below the data rows with
this approach.

So if you need more, consider merging your custom row component into your
enhanced grid class, so you can have more control.
This would also work if you wanted to have an extra column for check boxes,
etc.

I think I posted my EnhancedGrid class on the list a while back, it's T5.0.5
.



On Dec 14, 2007 10:56 AM, Tobias Wehrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> Is there a way to add extra rows to a BeanEditForm and extra columns to
> a Grid - rows / columns which doesn't represent a property of the given
> model? I need it to edit or show values which are relevant for the
> model, but like I said not included in it, as well as present links in
> an own column like "edit", "delete", "move" etc..
>
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Adding extra rows to a BeanEditForm / extra columns to a Grid

2007-12-14 Thread Tobias Wehrum

Hello everyone!

Is there a way to add extra rows to a BeanEditForm and extra columns to 
a Grid - rows / columns which doesn't represent a property of the given 
model? I need it to edit or show values which are relevant for the 
model, but like I said not included in it, as well as present links in 
an own column like "edit", "delete", "move" etc..


Regards,
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Re: Adding extra rows to a BeanEditForm / extra columns to a Grid (T5!)

2007-12-14 Thread Tobias Wehrum

Tobias Wehrum schrieb:

Hello everyone!

Is there a way to add extra rows to a BeanEditForm and extra columns 
to a Grid - rows / columns which doesn't represent a property of the 
given model? I need it to edit or show values which are relevant for 
the model, but like I said not included in it, as well as present 
links in an own column like "edit", "delete", "move" etc..


Regards,
Tobias


Ah, sorry - didn't give the version! I am using Tapestry 5!

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Re: T4.1.3 - Upgrade Dojo

2007-12-14 Thread Martino Piccinato
I think it was my mail and in fact there was no clear date/plan to
upgrade to 1.0 (but maybe I misunderstood...).

In fact it would be a great thing upgrading to 1.0 we tapestry4ers are
quite scared by the t5 only list traffic lately ;-)

On Dec 14, 2007 1:46 PM, Matt Brock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes, it's  http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-1902 issue #1902  in
> JIRA.  Andreas Andreou implied he was working on it in
> http://www.nabble.com/Moving-on-from-4.0.*-to13635906.html#a13636810 this
> post  in response to a similar question a month ago, but I haven't heard
> anything else since then.
>
>
> Joshua Jackson-3 wrote:
> >
> > On 12/14/07, Matt Brock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That's great. Has it been written on JIRA yet?
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Re: T4.1.3 - Upgrade Dojo

2007-12-14 Thread Matt Brock

Yes, it's  http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-1902 issue #1902  in
JIRA.  Andreas Andreou implied he was working on it in 
http://www.nabble.com/Moving-on-from-4.0.*-to13635906.html#a13636810 this
post  in response to a similar question a month ago, but I haven't heard
anything else since then.


Joshua Jackson-3 wrote:
> 
> On 12/14/07, Matt Brock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's great. Has it been written on JIRA yet?
> 

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Re: Antwort: Re: IoC global question

2007-12-14 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:45:56 -0200, Kristian Marinkovic  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



i think choosing spring or tapestry-ioc is just a matter of taste. I do
use tapestry-ioc a lot because i develop tapestry 5 applications
and sometimes i do not need spring.


I beg to differ. Howard haven't used Spring or Guice for Tapestry 5's IoC  
need for a reason (or two).
Read the "Why not Spring" section of  
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-ioc/.

Summary:
-> Tapestry-IoC has distributed configuration
-> Tapestry-IoC is more modular than Spring (drop-in modules is not  
possible in Spring AFAIK).
-> Tapestry-IoC has a better way to wire beans (waay better than  
XML and way better than Spring's JavaConfig).
Besides this, Tapestry-IoC has a wonderful bean scope: perthread, but I'm  
too lazy and busy to explain why is it so good here. :)


In other words: Tapestry-IoC has more features than spring-core, and these  
features are needed and/or wanted fo tapestry-core (the Web framework).



i use tapestry-ioc are contributions (helps seperate your appilcation
in useful drop-in modules) and the xml free configuration.


I think you answered your own question. :)

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Re: IoC global question

2007-12-14 Thread Hugo Palma

m, i think there's something missing here
If i'm understanding correctly you want tapestry-ioc to manage all your 
services (either presentation stuf, db stuff, etc) and you don't want it 
to be intrusive. You don't want to reference any tapestry-ioc API inside 
you service classes. Does that describe the problem ?

If so, tapestry-ioc can solve your problem really easily.

Michael Bernagou wrote:

So I have to call the current Registry (or to manage it myself) and call the
myRegistry.getService(MyService.class);

Hum, I think it's not ioc anymore if I have to setup my containers (Axis2,
Hibernate) to call the tapestry-ioc or I have to create a sort of "middle
layer" between the layer and the tapestry-ioc, and then my classes have to
call this middleLayer... hum...

How do you do yourself? Webapp have usually more than just a MVC layer. Are
you using the tapestry-ioc only for the MVC layer?
Its seems to me strange for one class having to use @Inject Logger log; and
for another class Logger log = Logger.getLogger(
ApplicationDaoImpl.class.getName());

2 ways to get the logger in the same application for the same target log
file... Maybe tapestry-ioc should be extended to take care also to the other
layers.

Maybe I'm totally wrong ;o) so, how should it be coded to respect ioc
pattern between tapestr-ioc and other layers such as Axis2 and Hibernate3
(for T5 we know ;o) )

Thanks


2007/12/14, Michael Bernagou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

Ok I'm going to investigate about that Registry.
So, what's the interrest to use tapestry-ioc instead of Spring ioc? If I
need my ioc to provide all the services I need, I cannot use tapestry-ioc
unless I need my other layers to call explicitely the ioc which is not
recommended when you want independant layers working together.

@Hugo, ok I'm going to reread again this part.

2007/12/14, Kristian Marinkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:


hi michael,

@Inject only works in Tapestry pages and components (and mixins).
By default Tapestry will use the field type as an id and lookup the
corresponding ioc service.

I assume your Web Service Container was not started by the ioc
container so it runs outside its control. Therefore you have to first
obtain an ioc Registry first and then ask it explicitly for the service
you want to call. The builder methods are not meant to be called
except by the container :)

g,
kris




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14.12.2007 10:51
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"Tapestry users" 
Kopie

Thema
IoC global question






Hi,

I have a sort of general question about tapestry-ioc. In fact, I would
like
it to manage all the services of my webapp. In theory it should be the
case,
shouldn't be?

So to provides services to my MVC, no problem the syntax @Inject
MyService
_myService; work perfectly. But, to provide services the same way for my

Dao
it's different. The same syntax doesn't provide any instance.
I used the tapestry-hibernate and declare my dao as services :

  import org.hibernate.Session;

  public static UserDao buildUserDao(@InjectService("Session") Session
session) {
  return new UserDaoImpl(session);
  }

  public static UserService buildUserService(@InjectService("UserDao")
UserDao dao) {
return new UserServiceImpl(dao);
  }

So my implementation can work. But to use the service, all the callers
have
to know a session object!
Ok, if my caller is a web service, and this web service want to call the
UserService, @Inject UserService _userService; DOES NOT work and
_userService is null! So I have to call explicitely the builder of my
service FROM the web service... If I do that, I bypass the IoC purpose
because I link it directly :

UserService us = AppModule.buildUserService ( ... and then I have a
problem!
buildUserService need a UserDao, but my web service doesn't care about
knowing any kind of dao!

So, I should be able to use @Inject MyService _myService; anywhere in my

project and the tapestry-ioc should be able to give instance to all the
class...

Did I (probably) missed something?

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Antwort: Re: IoC global question

2007-12-14 Thread Kristian Marinkovic
generally there are no differences in the basic concepts between 
spring ioc and tapestry-ioc. the only difference in this case is that
spring already offers a ready to use integration layer for Web 
Services and spring ioc tapestry-ioc does not yet :)

i think choosing spring or tapestry-ioc is just a matter of taste. I do
use tapestry-ioc a lot because i develop tapestry 5 applications 
and sometimes i do not need spring. If i do i can use the tapestry-spring
integration to inject spring beans into my tapestry-ioc services...
especially useful when using email, web services, ... :)... but again
in this case spring has control over this services by providing own
servlets, filters, ... and they are initialized via spring. Another reason
i use tapestry-ioc are contributions (helps seperate your appilcation
in useful drop-in modules) and the xml free configuration.

i hope this helps maybe it helps looking closer at springs integration
with web services. 

g,
kris




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So I have to call the current Registry (or to manage it myself) and call 
the
myRegistry.getService(MyService.class);

Hum, I think it's not ioc anymore if I have to setup my containers (Axis2,
Hibernate) to call the tapestry-ioc or I have to create a sort of "middle
layer" between the layer and the tapestry-ioc, and then my classes have to
call this middleLayer... hum...

How do you do yourself? Webapp have usually more than just a MVC layer. 
Are
you using the tapestry-ioc only for the MVC layer?
Its seems to me strange for one class having to use @Inject Logger log; 
and
for another class Logger log = Logger.getLogger(
ApplicationDaoImpl.class.getName());

2 ways to get the logger in the same application for the same target log
file... Maybe tapestry-ioc should be extended to take care also to the 
other
layers.

Maybe I'm totally wrong ;o) so, how should it be coded to respect ioc
pattern between tapestr-ioc and other layers such as Axis2 and Hibernate3
(for T5 we know ;o) )

Thanks


2007/12/14, Michael Bernagou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Ok I'm going to investigate about that Registry.
> So, what's the interrest to use tapestry-ioc instead of Spring ioc? If I
> need my ioc to provide all the services I need, I cannot use 
tapestry-ioc
> unless I need my other layers to call explicitely the ioc which is not
> recommended when you want independant layers working together.
>
> @Hugo, ok I'm going to reread again this part.
>
> 2007/12/14, Kristian Marinkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
> >
> > hi michael,
> >
> > @Inject only works in Tapestry pages and components (and mixins).
> > By default Tapestry will use the field type as an id and lookup the
> > corresponding ioc service.
> >
> > I assume your Web Service Container was not started by the ioc
> > container so it runs outside its control. Therefore you have to first
> > obtain an ioc Registry first and then ask it explicitly for the 
service
> > you want to call. The builder methods are not meant to be called
> > except by the container :)
> >
> > g,
> > kris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Michael Bernagou" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 14.12.2007 10:51
> > Bitte antworten an
> > "Tapestry users" 
> >
> >
> > An
> > "Tapestry users" 
> > Kopie
> >
> > Thema
> > IoC global question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a sort of general question about tapestry-ioc. In fact, I would
> > like
> > it to manage all the services of my webapp. In theory it should be the
> > case,
> > shouldn't be?
> >
> > So to provides services to my MVC, no problem the syntax @Inject
> > MyService
> > _myService; work perfectly. But, to provide services the same way for 
my
> >
> > Dao
> > it's different. The same syntax doesn't provide any instance.
> > I used the tapestry-hibernate and declare my dao as services :
> >
> >   import org.hibernate.Session;
> >
> >   public static UserDao buildUserDao(@InjectService("Session") Session
> > session) {
> >   return new UserDaoImpl(session);
> >   }
> >
> >   public static UserService buildUserService(@InjectService("UserDao")
> > UserDao dao) {
> > return new UserServiceImpl(dao);
> >   }
> >
> > So my implementation can work. But to use the service, all the callers
> > have
> > to know a session object!
> > Ok, if my caller is a web service, and this web service want to call 
the
> > UserService, @Inject UserService _userService; DOES NOT work and
> > _userService is null! So I have to call explicitely the builder of my
> > service FROM the web service... If I do that, I bypass the IoC purpose
> > because I link it directly :
> >
> > UserService us = AppModule.buildUserService ( ... and then I have a
> > problem!
> > buildUserService need a UserDao, but my web service doesn't care about
> > knowing any kind of dao!
> >
> > So, I should be able to use @Inject MyService _myService; anywhere in 
my
> >

Re: IoC global question

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Bernagou
So I have to call the current Registry (or to manage it myself) and call the
myRegistry.getService(MyService.class);

Hum, I think it's not ioc anymore if I have to setup my containers (Axis2,
Hibernate) to call the tapestry-ioc or I have to create a sort of "middle
layer" between the layer and the tapestry-ioc, and then my classes have to
call this middleLayer... hum...

How do you do yourself? Webapp have usually more than just a MVC layer. Are
you using the tapestry-ioc only for the MVC layer?
Its seems to me strange for one class having to use @Inject Logger log; and
for another class Logger log = Logger.getLogger(
ApplicationDaoImpl.class.getName());

2 ways to get the logger in the same application for the same target log
file... Maybe tapestry-ioc should be extended to take care also to the other
layers.

Maybe I'm totally wrong ;o) so, how should it be coded to respect ioc
pattern between tapestr-ioc and other layers such as Axis2 and Hibernate3
(for T5 we know ;o) )

Thanks


2007/12/14, Michael Bernagou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Ok I'm going to investigate about that Registry.
> So, what's the interrest to use tapestry-ioc instead of Spring ioc? If I
> need my ioc to provide all the services I need, I cannot use tapestry-ioc
> unless I need my other layers to call explicitely the ioc which is not
> recommended when you want independant layers working together.
>
> @Hugo, ok I'm going to reread again this part.
>
> 2007/12/14, Kristian Marinkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
> >
> > hi michael,
> >
> > @Inject only works in Tapestry pages and components (and mixins).
> > By default Tapestry will use the field type as an id and lookup the
> > corresponding ioc service.
> >
> > I assume your Web Service Container was not started by the ioc
> > container so it runs outside its control. Therefore you have to first
> > obtain an ioc Registry first and then ask it explicitly for the service
> > you want to call. The builder methods are not meant to be called
> > except by the container :)
> >
> > g,
> > kris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Michael Bernagou" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 14.12.2007 10:51
> > Bitte antworten an
> > "Tapestry users" 
> >
> >
> > An
> > "Tapestry users" 
> > Kopie
> >
> > Thema
> > IoC global question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a sort of general question about tapestry-ioc. In fact, I would
> > like
> > it to manage all the services of my webapp. In theory it should be the
> > case,
> > shouldn't be?
> >
> > So to provides services to my MVC, no problem the syntax @Inject
> > MyService
> > _myService; work perfectly. But, to provide services the same way for my
> >
> > Dao
> > it's different. The same syntax doesn't provide any instance.
> > I used the tapestry-hibernate and declare my dao as services :
> >
> >   import org.hibernate.Session;
> >
> >   public static UserDao buildUserDao(@InjectService("Session") Session
> > session) {
> >   return new UserDaoImpl(session);
> >   }
> >
> >   public static UserService buildUserService(@InjectService("UserDao")
> > UserDao dao) {
> > return new UserServiceImpl(dao);
> >   }
> >
> > So my implementation can work. But to use the service, all the callers
> > have
> > to know a session object!
> > Ok, if my caller is a web service, and this web service want to call the
> > UserService, @Inject UserService _userService; DOES NOT work and
> > _userService is null! So I have to call explicitely the builder of my
> > service FROM the web service... If I do that, I bypass the IoC purpose
> > because I link it directly :
> >
> > UserService us = AppModule.buildUserService ( ... and then I have a
> > problem!
> > buildUserService need a UserDao, but my web service doesn't care about
> > knowing any kind of dao!
> >
> > So, I should be able to use @Inject MyService _myService; anywhere in my
> >
> > project and the tapestry-ioc should be able to give instance to all the
> > class...
> >
> > Did I (probably) missed something?
> >
> > --
> > Michael Bernagou
> > Java Developper
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Michael Bernagou
> Java Developper




-- 
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Java Developper


Re: IoC global question

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Bernagou
Ok I'm going to investigate about that Registry.
So, what's the interrest to use tapestry-ioc instead of Spring ioc? If I
need my ioc to provide all the services I need, I cannot use tapestry-ioc
unless I need my other layers to call explicitely the ioc which is not
recommended when you want independant layers working together.

@Hugo, ok I'm going to reread again this part.

2007/12/14, Kristian Marinkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> hi michael,
>
> @Inject only works in Tapestry pages and components (and mixins).
> By default Tapestry will use the field type as an id and lookup the
> corresponding ioc service.
>
> I assume your Web Service Container was not started by the ioc
> container so it runs outside its control. Therefore you have to first
> obtain an ioc Registry first and then ask it explicitly for the service
> you want to call. The builder methods are not meant to be called
> except by the container :)
>
> g,
> kris
>
>
>
>
> "Michael Bernagou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 14.12.2007 10:51
> Bitte antworten an
> "Tapestry users" 
>
>
> An
> "Tapestry users" 
> Kopie
>
> Thema
> IoC global question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a sort of general question about tapestry-ioc. In fact, I would
> like
> it to manage all the services of my webapp. In theory it should be the
> case,
> shouldn't be?
>
> So to provides services to my MVC, no problem the syntax @Inject MyService
> _myService; work perfectly. But, to provide services the same way for my
> Dao
> it's different. The same syntax doesn't provide any instance.
> I used the tapestry-hibernate and declare my dao as services :
>
>   import org.hibernate.Session;
>
>   public static UserDao buildUserDao(@InjectService("Session") Session
> session) {
>   return new UserDaoImpl(session);
>   }
>
>   public static UserService buildUserService(@InjectService("UserDao")
> UserDao dao) {
> return new UserServiceImpl(dao);
>   }
>
> So my implementation can work. But to use the service, all the callers
> have
> to know a session object!
> Ok, if my caller is a web service, and this web service want to call the
> UserService, @Inject UserService _userService; DOES NOT work and
> _userService is null! So I have to call explicitely the builder of my
> service FROM the web service... If I do that, I bypass the IoC purpose
> because I link it directly :
>
> UserService us = AppModule.buildUserService( ... and then I have a
> problem!
> buildUserService need a UserDao, but my web service doesn't care about
> knowing any kind of dao!
>
> So, I should be able to use @Inject MyService _myService; anywhere in my
> project and the tapestry-ioc should be able to give instance to all the
> class...
>
> Did I (probably) missed something?
>
> --
> Michael Bernagou
> Java Developper
>
>


-- 
Michael Bernagou
Java Developper


Re: IoC global question

2007-12-14 Thread Hugo Palma
I think the easiest way to implement that is to use auto-building and to 
just declare each service dependencies in it's implementation class.
See the "Binding and Autobuilding" and "Injecting Dependencies for 
Autobuilt Services" section here 
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-ioc/service.html



Michael Bernagou wrote:

Hi,

I have a sort of general question about tapestry-ioc. In fact, I would like
it to manage all the services of my webapp. In theory it should be the case,
shouldn't be?

So to provides services to my MVC, no problem the syntax @Inject MyService
_myService; work perfectly. But, to provide services the same way for my Dao
it's different. The same syntax doesn't provide any instance.
I used the tapestry-hibernate and declare my dao as services :

  import org.hibernate.Session;

  public static UserDao buildUserDao(@InjectService("Session") Session
session) {
  return new UserDaoImpl(session);
  }

  public static UserService buildUserService(@InjectService("UserDao")
UserDao dao) {
return new UserServiceImpl(dao);
  }

So my implementation can work. But to use the service, all the callers have
to know a session object!
Ok, if my caller is a web service, and this web service want to call the
UserService, @Inject UserService _userService; DOES NOT work and
_userService is null! So I have to call explicitely the builder of my
service FROM the web service... If I do that, I bypass the IoC purpose
because I link it directly :

UserService us = AppModule.buildUserService( ... and then I have a problem!
buildUserService need a UserDao, but my web service doesn't care about
knowing any kind of dao!

So, I should be able to use @Inject MyService _myService; anywhere in my
project and the tapestry-ioc should be able to give instance to all the
class...

Did I (probably) missed something?

  


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RE: IoC global question

2007-12-14 Thread Kristian Marinkovic
hi michael,

@Inject only works in Tapestry pages and components (and mixins). 
By default Tapestry will use the field type as an id and lookup the 
corresponding ioc service.

I assume your Web Service Container was not started by the ioc
container so it runs outside its control. Therefore you have to first
obtain an ioc Registry first and then ask it explicitly for the service 
you want to call. The builder methods are not meant to be called
except by the container :)

g,
kris




"Michael Bernagou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
14.12.2007 10:51
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"Tapestry users" 


An
"Tapestry users" 
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Thema
IoC global question






Hi,

I have a sort of general question about tapestry-ioc. In fact, I would 
like
it to manage all the services of my webapp. In theory it should be the 
case,
shouldn't be?

So to provides services to my MVC, no problem the syntax @Inject MyService
_myService; work perfectly. But, to provide services the same way for my 
Dao
it's different. The same syntax doesn't provide any instance.
I used the tapestry-hibernate and declare my dao as services :

  import org.hibernate.Session;

  public static UserDao buildUserDao(@InjectService("Session") Session
session) {
  return new UserDaoImpl(session);
  }

  public static UserService buildUserService(@InjectService("UserDao")
UserDao dao) {
return new UserServiceImpl(dao);
  }

So my implementation can work. But to use the service, all the callers 
have
to know a session object!
Ok, if my caller is a web service, and this web service want to call the
UserService, @Inject UserService _userService; DOES NOT work and
_userService is null! So I have to call explicitely the builder of my
service FROM the web service... If I do that, I bypass the IoC purpose
because I link it directly :

UserService us = AppModule.buildUserService( ... and then I have a 
problem!
buildUserService need a UserDao, but my web service doesn't care about
knowing any kind of dao!

So, I should be able to use @Inject MyService _myService; anywhere in my
project and the tapestry-ioc should be able to give instance to all the
class...

Did I (probably) missed something?

-- 
Michael Bernagou
Java Developper



IoC global question

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Bernagou
Hi,

I have a sort of general question about tapestry-ioc. In fact, I would like
it to manage all the services of my webapp. In theory it should be the case,
shouldn't be?

So to provides services to my MVC, no problem the syntax @Inject MyService
_myService; work perfectly. But, to provide services the same way for my Dao
it's different. The same syntax doesn't provide any instance.
I used the tapestry-hibernate and declare my dao as services :

  import org.hibernate.Session;

  public static UserDao buildUserDao(@InjectService("Session") Session
session) {
  return new UserDaoImpl(session);
  }

  public static UserService buildUserService(@InjectService("UserDao")
UserDao dao) {
return new UserServiceImpl(dao);
  }

So my implementation can work. But to use the service, all the callers have
to know a session object!
Ok, if my caller is a web service, and this web service want to call the
UserService, @Inject UserService _userService; DOES NOT work and
_userService is null! So I have to call explicitely the builder of my
service FROM the web service... If I do that, I bypass the IoC purpose
because I link it directly :

UserService us = AppModule.buildUserService( ... and then I have a problem!
buildUserService need a UserDao, but my web service doesn't care about
knowing any kind of dao!

So, I should be able to use @Inject MyService _myService; anywhere in my
project and the tapestry-ioc should be able to give instance to all the
class...

Did I (probably) missed something?

-- 
Michael Bernagou
Java Developper