[VFB] Good Morning

2009-04-14 Thread J McK


Good Tuesday morning;

 

Hope this finds all fly tyers and fly fisherman well today.

 

Last nights fly tying was very good had 10 members show,

I showed my two students how to do wings, hair and feather.

 


Jerry McKaughan,President
Caddis Fly Fishing Club
P O Box 85
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FW: [VFB] Good Morning

2009-04-14 Thread jim phillips



 

 
 


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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 07:38:14 -0600



Thankx Jim.lol. 
 
Jerry.if you don't or can't get up here for our meetings.guess we'll 
have to get down there for yours, lmao. Got a spare bedroom?.we 
do. Btw, when exactly do you guys hold your meetings? Ours are every first Wed. 
of the month, at the Blue Ribbon Fly Shop Anglers Coffee Cafe.in Mt. 
Home.@ 6 p.m. We won't be able to make the next two, (May and June), and 
we're not sure bout July yet.most likely not.and Aug. is not lookin' 
good either..depending on how you Look at it.lol. Most 
likely, we'll still be in Colorado at the time.and if so, trust 
me.that'll be a good thing.  But, the meetings will still go on without 
us.and i've arranged for a good friend (Ron Griffin.Tony knows him), to 
Cover for us in our absense. 
And while it's always in the hands of God.we should be there for the Sept. 
meeting. 
As you may or may not know.the FFF Southern Council Conclave is Oct. 1st, 
2ne, and 3rd this year. With our meeting on the 7th.maybe you can finagel 
the week after Conclave off, and make the meeting and do some 
fishin'.Browns will be runnin' 
then...heheheheheheheand it's a BEAutiful time of year to 
fish here. Think it over and gimme a shout. 
We've got a show this weekend in Missouri.then we'll be back for our TU 
Chapter Banquet on the 25th..on the 26th we're outta here for a good long 
while. But we've always got the puters wiff us. So stay in touch. Domo, 
mark. p.s. if you wanna tye at the FFF Southern Council Conclave in Oct., i 
can drop the word for you.if he's full up.he's full up.but, One 
Never Knows...Do One?
 


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Good Tuesday morning;
 
Hope this finds all fly tyers and fly fisherman well today.
 
Last nights fly tying was very good had 10 members show,
I showed my two students how to do wings, hair and feather.
 

Jerry McKaughan,President
Caddis Fly Fishing Club
P O Box 85
Pottsville, AR 72858






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[VFB] Nice Easter weekend in Sweden...

2009-04-14 Thread Niclas Runarsson
8:15 a.m, day before yesterday:
Was ordered to open my eyes and the first thing I saw was a blazing sun
through the window. Perfect day for going out with the small ones. A few
seconds later I realized that this wasn't going to happen. I heard a dog
breathing somewhere in the room... and it turned out to be Emelie in front
of the TV. Short quick hissing breaths. The only walk outside for any of us
was going to be from the door to the ambulance.
After a few minutes fighting on the phone with a nurse who just couldn't
believe that she felt so sick because she was able to cry like that the
ambulance was finally on its way. Teresa followed in the ambulance while I
stayed at home with Klara. Blue lights and sirens... and half way to the
emergency hospital (which is in the next town) they had to stop to pick up
an anestethic nurse... just in case. Teresa has been a nurse herself and
knows what that just in case means, so she was NOT comfortable sitting in
the front with the driver, not being able to see anything anymore.
 
A couple of hours later she called and knew nothing... and then she called
again and knew nothing... and then she called again and knew that they would
not come home the same day. So mom had to drive me and Klara up to the
hospital with stuff for them. I was a little bit worried how that would work
out. I know the reaction when granny walks in here... toys flying,
everything flying, Emelie jumping and running. How would that work if she
had monitors and stuff connected? But that didn't happen. We walked in and
there she was lying with cables and tubes. But it wasn't the same untamed
wildcat that I knew. This one barely lifted her eyes when we walked in. It
was a sad sight. Noone wants to see their little baby like that. So that
night I had to be single father.
 
They still don't know what it was, but she responded to Asthma medications
so last night we could finally get them back home. If it actually IS Asthma
is yet to be seen... but now she's considered asthmatic until it can be
ruled out.
 
Paramedics and sirens... not what any of us had expected to find in the
Easter Bunny egg.
 
/Nick

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[VFB] Try it again!

2009-04-14 Thread Allan Fish

Aw SHUCKS!  What a horrible scary weekend.  I certainly hope that 
Emelie is okay and that this was just a once-in-a-lifetime occurence.

Prayers are with you.

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[VFB] Re: Nice Easter weekend in Sweden...

2009-04-14 Thread J Balmer
Good luck. Asthma has become much more prevalent in children here, but is
very treatable. Unfortunately, dealing w/ the causes in the Midwest US is
not.

 

J

 

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Of Niclas Runarsson
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:27 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Nice Easter weekend in Sweden...

 

8:15 a.m, day before yesterday:

Was ordered to open my eyes and the first thing I saw was a blazing sun
through the window. Perfect day for going out with the small ones. A few
seconds later I realized that this wasn't going to happen. I heard a dog
breathing somewhere in the room... and it turned out to be Emelie in front
of the TV. Short quick hissing breaths. The only walk outside for any of us
was going to be from the door to the ambulance.

After a few minutes fighting on the phone with a nurse who just couldn't
believe that she felt so sick because she was able to cry like that the
ambulance was finally on its way. Teresa followed in the ambulance while I
stayed at home with Klara. Blue lights and sirens... and half way to the
emergency hospital (which is in the next town) they had to stop to pick up
an anestethic nurse... just in case. Teresa has been a nurse herself and
knows what that just in case means, so she was NOT comfortable sitting in
the front with the driver, not being able to see anything anymore.

 

A couple of hours later she called and knew nothing... and then she called
again and knew nothing... and then she called again and knew that they would
not come home the same day. So mom had to drive me and Klara up to the
hospital with stuff for them. I was a little bit worried how that would work
out. I know the reaction when granny walks in here... toys flying,
everything flying, Emelie jumping and running. How would that work if she
had monitors and stuff connected? But that didn't happen. We walked in and
there she was lying with cables and tubes. But it wasn't the same untamed
wildcat that I knew. This one barely lifted her eyes when we walked in. It
was a sad sight. Noone wants to see their little baby like that. So that
night I had to be single father.

 

They still don't know what it was, but she responded to Asthma medications
so last night we could finally get them back home. If it actually IS Asthma
is yet to be seen... but now she's considered asthmatic until it can be
ruled out.

 

Paramedics and sirens... not what any of us had expected to find in the
Easter Bunny egg.

 

/Nick



 


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[VFB] Re: Nice Easter weekend in Sweden...

2009-04-14 Thread jim phillips

Nick

What a scarey scene. Having a daughter, my prayers are with you and yours.

I hope that the medical profession will find the cause of all this and just no 
more maybe it Asthma but at least the meds worked. Was she eating peanuts? 
Some people are allergic to nuts and thier products. Reactions are similiar to 
asthma at first with the closing of the wind pipes etc,,

Again, God be with you and the family.

Jim

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From: niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Nice Easter weekend in Sweden...
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:26:49 +0200


8:15 a.m, day before yesterday:
Was ordered to open my eyes and the first thing I saw was a blazing sun through 
the window. Perfect day for going out with the small ones. A few seconds 
later I realized that this wasn't going to happen. I heard a dog breathing 
somewhere in the room... and it turned out to be Emelie in front of the TV. 
Short quick hissing breaths. The only walk outside for any of us was going to 
be from the door to the ambulance.
After a few minutes fighting on the phone with a nurse who just couldn't 
believe that she felt so sick because she was able to cry like that the 
ambulance was finally on its way. Teresa followed in the ambulance while I 
stayed at home with Klara. Blue lights and sirens... and half way to the 
emergency hospital (which is in the next town) they had to stop to pick up an 
anestethic nurse... just in case. Teresa has been a nurse herself and knows 
what that just in case means, so she was NOT comfortable sitting in the front 
with the driver, not being able to see anything anymore.
 
A couple of hours later she called and knew nothing... and then she called 
again and knew nothing... and then she called again and knew that they would 
not come home the same day. So mom had to drive me and Klara up to the hospital 
with stuff for them. I was a little bit worried how that would work out. I know 
the reaction when granny walks in here... toys flying, everything flying, 
Emelie jumping and running. How would that work if she had monitors and stuff 
connected? But that didn't happen. We walked in and there she was lying with 
cables and tubes. But it wasn't the same untamed wildcat that I knew. This one 
barely lifted her eyes when we walked in. It was a sad sight. Noone wants to 
see their little baby like that. So that night I had to be single father.
 
They still don't know what it was, but she responded to Asthma medications so 
last night we could finally get them back home. If it actually IS Asthma is yet 
to be seen... but now she's considered asthmatic until it can be ruled out.
 
Paramedics and sirens... not what any of us had expected to find in the Easter 
Bunny egg.
 
/Nick



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[VFB] Re: up note on Easter

2009-04-14 Thread jim phillips



 


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Subject: RE: [VFB] up note on Easter
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:08:24 -0600



aa, lol. 
 


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Subject: [VFB] up note on Easter
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:37:58 -0500




Just a shot of my 2year old granddaughter
 

Jerry McKaughan,President
Caddis Fly Fishing Club
P O Box 85
Pottsville, AR 72858






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[VFB] Re: up note on Easter

2009-04-14 Thread DonO
Jerry, I see you were able to get a photo posted to this site.  I'll have to 
try it.  Would be great if we can post photos of flies and fish, too.  

Jerry Goldsmith, that doesn't mean you can post a pic of you in your thong 
surf-casting outfit!  LOL

DonO
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  Subject: [VFB] up note on Easter



  Just a shot of my 2year old granddaughter
   

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[VFB] Re: up note on Easter

2009-04-14 Thread jim phillips

Why not? I for one being who I am would like to see that.

DT

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:46:53 -0600




Jerry, I see you were able to get a photo posted to this site.  I'll have to 
try it.  Would be great if we can post photos of flies and fish, too.  
 
Jerry Goldsmith, that doesn't mean you can post a pic of you in your thong 
surf-casting outfit!  LOL
 
DonO

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From: J McK 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:37 AM
Subject: [VFB] up note on Easter


Just a shot of my 2year old granddaughter
 

Jerry McKaughan,President
Caddis Fly Fishing Club
P O Box 85
Pottsville, AR 72858






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[VFB] Re: up note on Easter

2009-04-14 Thread jim phillips


Speaking of thongs, my bride bought me one about six years ago. I went fishing 
in S, Korea, wearing the darn thingie and lo and behold, I had an urge to do a 
#2, I mean a bone chilling, brain knocking urge and started running for the 
Korean outhouse on the other side of the pond. Of course as you know, you have 
to run puckered up and with straight legs. My buddies were laughings their 
rearends off. Well I got to the outhouse and threw open the door and it hit me; 
the unbelievable stench of fermented cabbage, rice, hot peppers all mixed with 
gastric juices and somewhat solid waste. Even the flys were staying away from 
this place. Well, I held my breath and pulled down my overalls and started 
searching for the straps on the undies. I was weighing in at about 280 at the 
time and with the various rolls of fat, the thong was hidden somewhere. Well 
you know the rest of the story, After releiving myself and feeling much better, 
I disrobed, found the thong, removed it carefully(a bit stained) and threw it 
in with the rest of the stuff down there. Oh yea, there was no TP either. This 
is true - just ask me and I did catch some fish (trout and an European Carp).

Jim
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Subject: [VFB] Re: up note on Easter
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:56:29 -0700



Why not? I for one being who I am would like to see that.
DT

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:46:53 -0600




Jerry, I see you were able to get a photo posted to this site.  I'll have to 
try it.  Would be great if we can post photos of flies and fish, too.  
 
Jerry Goldsmith, that doesn't mean you can post a pic of you in your thong 
surf-casting outfit!  LOL
 
DonO

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Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:37 AM
Subject: [VFB] up note on Easter


Just a shot of my 2year old granddaughter
 

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Caddis Fly Fishing Club
P O Box 85
Pottsville, AR 72858






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[VFB] Re: was up note on Easter, now photos on this list

2009-04-14 Thread DonO
Not me!  I know him. Just the thought is hard to bear (and I should talk!  LOL) 
Please keep those posts off-list.  LOL

On the original VFB site, because of the virus situation, Byard had the limit 
set at 4kb, I think, which was smaller than any virus.

If we can post photos now, that would be a great stimulus to the site, if it 
can handle the memory without getting clogged.  Anyone know anything about this?

To keep it in Byard's topic-realm, pics of flies with recipes, or fish, gear, 
etc. would be welcome additions to a heretofore just-text format.  Pics kept to 
the smallest readable resolution and size would help.

DonO
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  Jerry, I see you were able to get a photo posted to this site.  I'll have to 
try it.  Would be great if we can post photos of flies and fish, too.  

  Jerry Goldsmith, that doesn't mean you can post a pic of you in your thong 
surf-casting outfit!  LOL

  DonO
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To: Fly Swap 
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:37 AM
Subject: [VFB] up note on Easter



Just a shot of my 2year old granddaughter
 

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[VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'

2009-04-14 Thread DonO
My day is just ruirnt!  LOL, Can't say I been there...not geographically at 
least, but have been state-side (without the thong part).  Park and camping 
area facilities can be really bad. And then some, like the ones at Miracle Mile 
here, are spotless and odor-free. 

On the other hand, my 50cal. SW allows me to 'go in the woods' where the bears 
and cougars go.  

This is sorta fishing related (without some of the 'gory' details), as a bad 
case of the trots can spoil a fishing trip.  I try to prepare myself for 
'non-standard nature-calls operations' by drinking only bottled fluids and 
taking Pepto before I start the journey and during.  Before Baja, most of the 
group takes a perscription medicine for Montezuma's revenge.  Having a problem 
while out on a panga is not the best of memories to bring home.  I have been 
spared it, but have had friends whose vacations were ruined by it.  So it is a 
valid topic- might as well lose your gear- fishing is over.

As we men get older, our need to go gets more often, and when our need happens 
in chest-waders out in the middle of a crowded stream, do we want to leave just 
to go, and give up our spot? I try not to drink much before a wading trip.  But 
I wonder if taking a salt pill would help, since salts causes the body to 
retain water.  Anyone know?

DonO
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[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?

2009-04-14 Thread Neville Gosling

Wes:

What are you planning to use this for?

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
B. C.   Canada 
 

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The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing with
the material.  If you took the standard braided nylon material used for
making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon fibers, then
you can visualize the product.

The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound
test.

The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound.  I ordered the 8
and 6.

The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been able to
break the 8 pound test with my hands.  It is very sturdy stuff, tightly
braided.

The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many butt
sections of leaders.  Indeed, you could easily have a quick substitute for a
furled leader butt using this stuff.

The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32.

I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye hooks,
but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative.

The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds:

6-pound C-Thru
http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074

8-pound C-Thru
http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075

17-pound C-Thru
http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076


If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline.


Wes Wada
Bend, Oregon












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 I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod  
 C-Thru.  The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the  
 product and source.


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FW: [VFB] Nice Easter weekend in Sweden...

2009-04-14 Thread jim phillips



 
 


  From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Nice Easter weekend in Sweden...
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:41:54 -0600



TKX. again Jim. 
 
Nick, so sorry to hear of your little one's medical condition..if it is 
that, she'll learn to live with it...but let's hope and pray not. Remember 
bout Mysterious Ways. and after all, she is a miracle.right. Good 
luck and God Bless, mark.
 


From: niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Nice Easter weekend in Sweden...
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:26:49 +0200


8:15 a.m, day before yesterday:
Was ordered to open my eyes and the first thing I saw was a blazing sun through 
the window. Perfect day for going out with the small ones. A few seconds 
later I realized that this wasn't going to happen. I heard a dog breathing 
somewhere in the room... and it turned out to be Emelie in front of the TV. 
Short quick hissing breaths. The only walk outside for any of us was going to 
be from the door to the ambulance.
After a few minutes fighting on the phone with a nurse who just couldn't 
believe that she felt so sick because she was able to cry like that the 
ambulance was finally on its way. Teresa followed in the ambulance while I 
stayed at home with Klara. Blue lights and sirens... and half way to the 
emergency hospital (which is in the next town) they had to stop to pick up an 
anestethic nurse... just in case. Teresa has been a nurse herself and knows 
what that just in case means, so she was NOT comfortable sitting in the front 
with the driver, not being able to see anything anymore.
 
A couple of hours later she called and knew nothing... and then she called 
again and knew nothing... and then she called again and knew that they would 
not come home the same day. So mom had to drive me and Klara up to the hospital 
with stuff for them. I was a little bit worried how that would work out. I know 
the reaction when granny walks in here... toys flying, everything flying, 
Emelie jumping and running. How would that work if she had monitors and stuff 
connected? But that didn't happen. We walked in and there she was lying with 
cables and tubes. But it wasn't the same untamed wildcat that I knew. This one 
barely lifted her eyes when we walked in. It was a sad sight. Noone wants to 
see their little baby like that. So that night I had to be single father.
 
They still don't know what it was, but she responded to Asthma medications so 
last night we could finally get them back home. If it actually IS Asthma is yet 
to be seen... but now she's considered asthmatic until it can be ruled out.
 
Paramedics and sirens... not what any of us had expected to find in the Easter 
Bunny egg.
 
/Nick





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FW: [VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'

2009-04-14 Thread jim phillips



v
 


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; desert-tr...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:25:09 -0600



For the List Jim.tkx. 
 
Don.i haven't tried it yet..but a good friend says he does it all 
the time...remember the punch line bout the 65 year 
old.LMAODepends. .ROTFtry 
it.you might like it..rotflmao...says he never get 
in the water wiffout itand that it has saved his day many 
times.why not. Like you said, 
who wants to loose a good spot.specially if you've just secured 
it..worth a try. mark.
 


From: f...@tribcsp.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:40:25 -0600




My day is just ruirnt!  LOL, Can't say I been there...not geographically at 
least, but have been state-side (without the thong part).  Park and camping 
area facilities can be really bad. And then some, like the ones at Miracle Mile 
here, are spotless and odor-free. 
 
On the other hand, my 50cal. SW allows me to 'go in the woods' where the bears 
and cougars go.  
 
This is sorta fishing related (without some of the 'gory' details), as a bad 
case of the trots can spoil a fishing trip.  I try to prepare myself for 
'non-standard nature-calls operations' by drinking only bottled fluids and 
taking Pepto before I start the journey and during.  Before Baja, most of the 
group takes a perscription medicine for Montezuma's revenge.  Having a problem 
while out on a panga is not the best of memories to bring home.  I have been 
spared it, but have had friends whose vacations were ruined by it.  So it is a 
valid topic- might as well lose your gear- fishing is over.
 
As we men get older, our need to go gets more often, and when our need happens 
in chest-waders out in the middle of a crowded stream, do we want to leave just 
to go, and give up our spot? I try not to drink much before a wading trip.  But 
I wonder if taking a salt pill would help, since salts causes the body to 
retain water.  Anyone know?
 
DonO

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[VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'

2009-04-14 Thread Anthony Spezio
Don,
Two years ago I had prostrate Surgery and had to go quite often. I got one if 
those leg bags with the appropriate connections and just had no worries except 
for the day I took a water pill when I had not planned on fishing. Needless to 
say, the bag was overfilled. Did not do that again.
Tony

--- On Tue, 4/14/09, DonO f...@tribcsp.com wrote:

From: DonO f...@tribcsp.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 2:40 PM



 
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My day is just ruirnt!  LOL, Can't 
say I been there...not geographically at least, but have been state-side 
(without the thong part).  Park and camping area facilities can be really 
bad. And then some, like the ones at Miracle Mile here, are spotless and 
odor-free. 
 
On the other hand, my 50cal. SW allows me to 'go in 
the woods' where the bears and cougars go.  
 
This is sorta 
fishing related (without some of the 'gory' details), as a bad case of the 
trots 
can spoil a fishing trip.  I try to prepare myself for 
'non-standard nature-calls operations' by drinking only bottled 
fluids and taking Pepto before I start the journey and during.  Before 
Baja, most of the group takes a perscription medicine for Montezuma's 
revenge.  Having a problem while out on a panga is not the best of memories 
to bring home.  I have been spared it, but have had friends whose vacations 
were ruined by it.  So it is a valid topic- might as well lose your gear- 
fishing is over.
 
As we men get older, our need to go gets more often, and 
when our need happens in chest-waders out in the middle of a crowded stream, do 
we want to leave just to go, and give up our spot? I try not to drink much 
before a wading trip.  But I wonder if taking a salt pill would help, since 
salts causes the body to retain water.  Anyone know?
 
DonO

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  phillips 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
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  PM
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[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY

2009-04-14 Thread DonO

...and then again when I get the photo of it in my photo shop

DonO


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A fish grows excessively fast between the moment when it is taken and the
moment when the fisherman describes it to his friends.

Pierre Masson



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[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?

2009-04-14 Thread Wes Wada

Hi Neville,

I am developing techniques and a series of flies using a shapeable,
moldable foam.  The foam cannot be tied to a hook (the thread cuts
right through it).  Hooks need to be GLUED into the foam.  When done
properly, the setup is very durable.

I have been looking for a product that I could wind around  a hook
that would give the hook shank a tooth without a lot of bulk.  The
purpose of the tooth would be to give the foam something to hang onto,
to prevent rotation or slippage around the hook.  Just from the tests
so far using the Gudebrod C-Thru, it works for that purpose!

I am also going to play around with the material for special leader
mini-connectors and such.  Should be interesting to make loops from
8-pound, 1/16 diameter braided nylon.  Like I noted, the breaking
strength is much greater than listed.

Wes


On 4/14/09, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote:

  Wes:

  What are you planning to use this for?

  Neville (Nev) Gosling
  Greater Vancouver
  B. C.   Canada



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  Of Wes Wada
  Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:49 PM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?


  The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing with
  the material.  If you took the standard braided nylon material used for
  making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon fibers, then
  you can visualize the product.

  The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound
  test.

  The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound.  I ordered the 8
  and 6.

  The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been able to
  break the 8 pound test with my hands.  It is very sturdy stuff, tightly
  braided.

  The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many butt
  sections of leaders.  Indeed, you could easily have a quick substitute for a
  furled leader butt using this stuff.

  The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32.

  I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye hooks,
  but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative.

  The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds:

  6-pound C-Thru
  http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074

  8-pound C-Thru
  http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075

  17-pound C-Thru
  http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076


  If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline.


  Wes Wada
  Bend, Oregon












  On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote:
   I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod
   C-Thru.  The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the
   product and source.
  
  
Wes
  




 


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[VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Bliss

And to take care of the other discarge I just eat one of those energy
bars.  That stops me up pretty good.

Mike

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Don,
 Two years ago I had prostrate Surgery and had to go quite often. I got one
 if those leg bags with the appropriate connections and just had no worries
 except for the day I took a water pill when I had not planned on fishing.
 Needless to say, the bag was overfilled. Did not do that again.
 Tony

 --- On Tue, 4/14/09, DonO f...@tribcsp.com wrote:

 From: DonO f...@tribcsp.com
 Subject: [VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 2:40 PM

 My day is just ruirnt!  LOL, Can't say I been there...not geographically at
 least, but have been state-side (without the thong part).  Park and camping
 area facilities can be really bad. And then some, like the ones at Miracle
 Mile here, are spotless and odor-free.

 On the other hand, my 50cal. SW allows me to 'go in the woods' where the
 bears and cougars go.

 This is sorta fishing related (without some of the 'gory' details), as a bad
 case of the trots can spoil a fishing trip.  I try to prepare myself for
 'non-standard nature-calls operations' by drinking only bottled fluids and
 taking Pepto before I start the journey and during.  Before Baja, most of
 the group takes a perscription medicine for Montezuma's revenge.  Having a
 problem while out on a panga is not the best of memories to bring home.  I
 have been spared it, but have had friends whose vacations were ruined by
 it.  So it is a valid topic- might as well lose your gear- fishing is over.

 As we men get older, our need to go gets more often, and when our need
 happens in chest-waders out in the middle of a crowded stream, do we want to
 leave just to go, and give up our spot? I try not to drink much before a
 wading trip.  But I wonder if taking a salt pill would help, since salts
 causes the body to retain water.  Anyone know?

 DonO

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 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 1:10 PM
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 Speaking of thongs,






 


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FW: [VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'

2009-04-14 Thread jim phillips



 
 


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; desert-tr...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:35:16 -0600



for the list
 
LMAO..
 


Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:33:26 -0700
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Don,
Two years ago I had prostrate Surgery and had to go quite often. I got one if 
those leg bags with the appropriate connections and just had no worries except 
for the day I took a water pill when I had not planned on fishing. Needless to 
say, the bag was overfilled. Did not do that again.
Tony

--- On Tue, 4/14/09, DonO f...@tribcsp.com wrote:


From: DonO f...@tribcsp.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 2:40 PM





My day is just ruirnt!  LOL, Can't say I been there...not geographically at 
least, but have been state-side (without the thong part).  Park and camping 
area facilities can be really bad. And then some, like the ones at Miracle Mile 
here, are spotless and odor-free. 
 
On the other hand, my 50cal. SW allows me to 'go in the woods' where the bears 
and cougars go.  
 
This is sorta fishing related (without some of the 'gory' details), as a bad 
case of the trots can spoil a fishing trip.  I try to prepare myself for 
'non-standard nature-calls operations' by drinking only bottled fluids and 
taking Pepto before I start the journey and during.  Before Baja, most of the 
group takes a perscription medicine for Montezuma's revenge.  Having a problem 
while out on a panga is not the best of memories to bring home.  I have been 
spared it, but have had friends whose vacations were ruined by it.  So it is a 
valid topic- might as well lose your gear- fishing is over.
 
As we men get older, our need to go gets more often, and when our need happens 
in chest-waders out in the middle of a crowded stream, do we want to leave just 
to go, and give up our spot? I try not to drink much before a wading trip.  But 
I wonder if taking a salt pill would help, since salts causes the body to 
retain water.  Anyone know?
 
DonO

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Subject: [VFB] Re: up note on Easter


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[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Bliss

So Wes are you making loop connectors for your fly lines?  If you are
I would be interested in the process.  I have been using the braided
leaders for some time and love them but the connections to the fly
line are not how I would like them yet.

Mike

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote:

 The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing
 with the material.  If you took the standard braided nylon material
 used for making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon
 fibers, then you can visualize the product.

 The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound test.

 The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound.  I ordered
 the 8 and 6.

 The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been
 able to break the 8 pound test with my hands.  It is very sturdy
 stuff, tightly braided.

 The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many
 butt sections of leaders.  Indeed, you could easily have a quick
 substitute for a furled leader butt using this stuff.

 The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32.

 I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye
 hooks, but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative.

 The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds:

 6-pound C-Thru
 http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074

 8-pound C-Thru
 http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075

 17-pound C-Thru
 http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076


 If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline.


 Wes Wada
 Bend, Oregon












 On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote:
 I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod
  C-Thru.  The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the
  product and source.


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[VFB] Re: FW: try this.....

2009-04-14 Thread jim phillips



   


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; desert-tr...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: FW: try this.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:38:00 -0600



FOR THE LIST.
 
..is that anything like the Congo Tango.
 


From: f...@tribcsp.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: FW: try this.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:29:17 -0600




I guess if toucan do it, so can I.  LOL

- Original Message - 
From: jim phillips 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:28 PM
Subject: [VFB] FW: try this.



v
 
 


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: desert-tr...@hotmail.com; markflie...@hotmail.com
Subject: try this.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:15:01 -0600



 .This is just a test.look for the pic. mark.


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[VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'

2009-04-14 Thread jim phillips




 


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; desert-tr...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:47:29 -0600



for the list.
 
you guys t funny..reminds me of what my boss used 
to tell the girls when he was commin' outta the women's room and they were 
goin' in...Mention my name, you'll get a good seat. 
rotflmao..
 
 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:36:44 -1000
 Subject: [VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'
 From: flyfish...@gmail.com
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 
 
 And to take care of the other discarge I just eat one of those energy
 bars. That stops me up pretty good.
 
 Mike
 
 On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Don,
  Two years ago I had prostrate Surgery and had to go quite often. I got one
  if those leg bags with the appropriate connections and just had no worries
  except for the day I took a water pill when I had not planned on fishing.
  Needless to say, the bag was overfilled. Did not do that again.
  Tony
 
  --- On Tue, 4/14/09, DonO f...@tribcsp.com wrote:
 
  From: DonO f...@tribcsp.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Tips on 'Nature Calls While Fishing'
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 2:40 PM
 
  My day is just ruirnt!  LOL, Can't say I been there...not geographically at
  least, but have been state-side (without the thong part).  Park and camping
  area facilities can be really bad. And then some, like the ones at Miracle
  Mile here, are spotless and odor-free.
 
  On the other hand, my 50cal. SW allows me to 'go in the woods' where the
  bears and cougars go.
 
  This is sorta fishing related (without some of the 'gory' details), as a bad
  case of the trots can spoil a fishing trip.  I try to prepare myself for
  'non-standard nature-calls operations' by drinking only bottled fluids and
  taking Pepto before I start the journey and during.  Before Baja, most of
  the group takes a perscription medicine for Montezuma's revenge.  Having a
  problem while out on a panga is not the best of memories to bring home.  I
  have been spared it, but have had friends whose vacations were ruined by
  it.  So it is a valid topic- might as well lose your gear- fishing is over.
 
  As we men get older, our need to go gets more often, and when our need
  happens in chest-waders out in the middle of a crowded stream, do we want to
  leave just to go, and give up our spot? I try not to drink much before a
  wading trip.  But I wonder if taking a salt pill would help, since salts
  causes the body to retain water.  Anyone know?
 
  DonO
 
  - Original Message -
  From: jim phillips
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 1:10 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: up note on Easter
 
  Speaking of thongs,
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
  



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[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?

2009-04-14 Thread Wes Wada

Hi Mike,

It was snowing hard in Bend today.  We are going to go directly from
winter to the 4th of July.  Aloha.

Henry posted this link about the loop construction.  The info is part
of Dan Blanton's web site.

Get Looped
http://www.danblanton.com/gettinglooped.html


That's actually a nice salutation:

Get Looped,
Wes


P.S.  I am giving myself the challenge to create braided nylon loops
from the 6-pound Gudebrod C-Thru.  Haven't a clue yet what I'd use
them for.



On 4/14/09, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote:

  So Wes are you making loop connectors for your fly lines?  If you are
  I would be interested in the process.  I have been using the braided
  leaders for some time and love them but the connections to the fly
  line are not how I would like them yet.

  Mike


  On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote:
  
   The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing
   with the material.  If you took the standard braided nylon material
   used for making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon
   fibers, then you can visualize the product.
  
   The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound 
 test.
  
   The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound.  I ordered
   the 8 and 6.
  
   The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been
   able to break the 8 pound test with my hands.  It is very sturdy
   stuff, tightly braided.
  
   The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many
   butt sections of leaders.  Indeed, you could easily have a quick
   substitute for a furled leader butt using this stuff.
  
   The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32.
  
   I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye
   hooks, but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative.
  
   The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds:
  
   6-pound C-Thru
   http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074
  
   8-pound C-Thru
   http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075
  
   17-pound C-Thru
   http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076
  
  
   If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline.
  
  
   Wes Wada
   Bend, Oregon
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote:
   I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod
C-Thru.  The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the
product and source.
  
  
Wes
  
  
   
  


 


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