Re: [videoblogging] Vlogonomics, Part I
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:34:11 +0100, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Eric Rice's Epsilon construct.. is that the same as the 4x4 grid he was talking about? Eric, did you ever post that matrix? I saw a whiteboard glimpse of it in the video chat... Eric Rice's matrix is at URL: http://flickr.com/photos/ericrice/83535155/ - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
Generally speaking I'm the same as Josh Kinberg: 3 mins/ 25 MB. But it depends on a lot of factors. If there is a good text description of the video I'm more likely to watch, if I don't know what I'll be watching my patience with the piece is very low. Often I don't click through at all because the payoff is not obvious. For anything longer than 3 mins that also look really really good I'll download and watch later. That usually mean sit on my desktop for a week or two before watching. Then you and I lose out on the great things about videoblogging (feedback, networked communication) because I switch from viewing it as a blog to viewing it as I would a tv program. - Andreas On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:22:48 +0100, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
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Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
Note to you FireANT users, if you want to subscribe just use the PSP feed.It has the same QT videos as the iTunes feed.I'd also like to say...woo...and whew.-AQ Thank you, Mica, Adam, and the PAN team Meet our contributors – http://thepan.org/contributors/ Visit The PAN – http://thepan.org / SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:55:57 +0100, MICA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * * http://thepan.org/home.html Since the site is void of any explanatory details and the daily video download is 77MB (thus requiring a 12 minute wait for yours truly) I must ask: What *is* the pan? A videoblog with Really Big Files (tm)? Content created by contributors or content found by contributors? - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:55:09 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right... you had to drag the stuff in and it automatically converts. But it still had to convert. Its just that the interface was simple and intuitive. I would think that iTunes will try to make the process roughly the same for video on the iPod. Perhaps I confused what Andreas was saying. I thought he meant software authors should only provide two codecs and have the user figure out the rest. He may have meant a content authors, in which case I'm mistaken. Yes, I meant content authors. The videoblogger should only ever have to provide one, perhaps two formats (because Apple and Microsoft will never think what's best for the consumer). The user's software should handle all necessary conversations to make sure the content plays on that user's external devices. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant, although most are smaller. i tend to be less patient in the browser. if there is a feed, i'll use that instead if it makes sense. if not, i'll download it in the background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care how long the download takes. i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i prefer a sizable player like fireant. in general, i don't really care how big or how long a video is as long as the content is worth it (there is a limit of course, I'm not looking to download gigabyte files just yet). very few pieces of media can hold my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially movies and TV). i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usually just fast forward. if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within the first 30 seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's not from a friend perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next. again, size is not much of a factor here. while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail to capture my attention these days (this is more of a statement about the increase in the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's just a lot more stuff out there these days) the main reason for stopping a download: i found something else I want sooner my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with no other limits (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is not super fast, i would probably feel different (i.e., more selective) if I had slower access. i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does not seem to make much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it stops and starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward). hope that helps Stephanie Bryant wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
Why pack them all together into a 15 min. video?Why not let them each exist as separate videos that can be downloaded quicker and easier? You may as well simply link to the originals too in order to credit the creators. -joshOn 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a 15 minute video, every business day, with a variety of short segments.Some of it is created specifically for The PAN, some of it is found material, usually found on static sites without blogs.It's a pretty long video for web-viewing, and wasn't intended to be such. We decided to include a download link on the page though so people (like you) could try before they buy (or get for free). It isn't designed to be a video blog, although it turned out looking a lot like one. It's for video gadgets and so such and so forth.We heard they needed some content.On 1/16/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:55:57 +0100, MICA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * * http://thepan.org/home.html Since the site is void of any explanatory details and the daily video download is 77MB (thus requiring a 12 minute wait for yours truly) I must ask: What *is* the pan? A videoblog with Really Big Files (tm)? Content created by contributors or content found by contributors? - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
i'd agree with josh/andreas that over 3 mins is often too much, i don't think this is directly related to my attention span (e.g. i'm a big tarkovsky fan), but purely due to the fact that i'm usually at my computer and multitasking when i watch them, and often have lots of them to watch!! in terms of file size i guess i'm still pretty old school, i feel bad if i post a video over 5mb!, but saying that i often get annoyed with people making huge files for stuff that doesn;t contain much visual information, what is all filesize used for? it just clogs up my fireant queue (although now the mac version has browsing things could be getting better for me !! ) d(p.s. steph, is it you thats writing videoblogging for dummies?, how's it coming along ) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] MSM on mobile phone advertising
URL: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/16/technology/16mobile.html?ex=1295067600en=4ca77eacb70dbebeei=5090partner=rssuserlandemc=rss NY Times on advertising trend: "Forget the 30-second spot on a 50-inch high-definition TV. How about a three-second message on the tiniest of screens? "Television-style advertising is coming to a mobile phone near you. It is part of a broader push by marketers to create a new generation of "up close and personal" ads by delivering video, audio, banner displays and text clips over a device carried by most American adults." The piece speaks of :03 ads delivered based on GPS technology and a potential $1.25 billion in ad revenues via cell phone by 2009. XOX, Jan -- "It isn't done alone. Pay more." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - Road Node 101http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motionhttp://blog.urbanartadventures.com - soundhttp://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - communityhttp://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] MSM on mobile phone advertising
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:04:18 +0100, Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The piece speaks of :03 ads delivered based on GPS technology and a potential $1.25 billion in ad revenues via cell phone by 2009. And they don't answer the obvious question: Why in the world would consumers tell advertisers their location? And the you get great quotes like this: Ujjal Kohli, chief executive of Rhythm NewMedia, a start-up in Mountain View, Calif., which is developing video advertising technology, said he had hopes that mobile marketing, by being very personal and intimate, could solve some of the frustrations advertisers have with consumers ignoring television commercials - no matter how big the monitor. Maybe, just maybe, consumers will be equally frustrated by having their cell phone go off 20 times during a walk through the mall. Maybe, just maybe, he should be worrying about the frustrations of the consumer, not the advertiser. Maybe, just maybe, happy consumers make happy corporate execs. Despite my degree in communication and a possible future career in the area I will not shed tears for the frustrations of the advertising exec. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:06:56 +0100, duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in terms of file size i guess i'm still pretty old school, i feel bad if i post a video over 5mb! You're my hero. 4MB/min is too much for most stuff. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
On 16 Jan 2006, at 12:06, duncan wrote: although now the mac version has browsing things could be getting better for me It does?? Not here - 1.0 b3 - and the FireANT website isn't offering a newer version as far as I can tell... do tell! Christian Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] kids make vlogging dangerous
On Jan 15, 2006, at 9:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: over the weekend my friend's 7 year old brother, justin, grabbed the mini dv and began walking around the house; instead of dismissing him like we usually do, we viewed the videos he had saved on the camera and we got this: http://collegewit.com/media/videos/weirdosonlaptops.wmv I'm not getting but a few seconds... I don't know why, but it just won't play... It's 2.9 mb but perhaps it's 900kbs so that's well just a few seconds. Am I missing something? untrained, he gave his own commentary and he did so simply b/c he was inspired by the videos section ( http://collegewit.com/index.php?cat=15 ) of the College Wit site that he always hears his sister and i talking about I wouldn't say untrained... ok, untrained.. .but talking into a cemera is a very natural thing these days and will become more so... kids have a habbit of picking up stuff like this naturally... especially when they're obviously surrounded by people who walk around talking to their cameras all day. :) we realized in a moment that as soon as Justin learns to upload videos on the internet, private moments like this with mel and i sitting around in pajamas, giving ourselves beauty treatments while typing on our comps will easily become exposed! (from now on all zit therapy sessions will take place behind closed and locked doors!)Don't worry a) we don't want to see it anyway... b) by that time the web will be so overloaded by the mundane and awesome everyday moments that you're really really have to do something spectacular to pull a "star wars kid".I say get him started NOW, get him started early... by the time he's reached the technical level of competence to really embarace you he'll understand the whole ediquette of being a vlogger. Besides you can always embarace him a few times. :) i just thought i would share with all of you how easy it is for little kids to pick up on vlogging, i.e., talk about your own vids and give them a mini dv for their birthdays!I wish I had some kids to push my wicked agenda's on, but for the time being I'll just have to corrupt my niece... hmmm 3 year old video blogger?-Mikemmeiser.com/blogevilvlog.com -brainy founder http://collegewit.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Come be a WATM Reporter!
Howdy Josh,I'd like to contribute and participate... I'm thinking one in every 10 or 20 essays I write might be good for we are the media... If it's cool with you I'll just write for myself and every once in a while I'll ease something over your way that I think is really on topic and you can review it in a good old editorial fashion... hell I'll even do revisions, just as long as your not to much of a tyrannical editor. :)That or of course I can just use my own judgment and when I hit on some thing I think concerns more people than myself... I'll write stuff specifically for We are the media.Just hoping to be a little more active... WATM is a good cause and we could use more product and service reviews and interviews and just general blogging about vlogging.Peace,-Mike Michael Meiserhttp://mmeiser.com/blog - fun stuffhttp://mmeiser.com/backchannel - del.icio.us link bloghttp://evilvlog.com - Serious lunacy has a new domain.http://mefeedia.com On Jan 15, 2006, at 11:39 PM, Josh Leo wrote: Registration links: http://wearethemedia.com/2006/01/15/want-to-write-for-watm/Have you ever seen a peice of news that would look great on We Are The Media? Have you found the latest and greatest vlog that nobody knows about? Well registration is open at WATM for new reporters. Go get yourself registered and write that article that you want the vlogging community to see.By becomeing a writer for WATM you agree to abide by the guidelines and have your work edited by the editors. Here are the basic rules, but make sure you go read all the guidelines before writing an article.1. Keep it positive. No mudslinging.2. Your article should be about vlogging. No articles to the latest viral commercial. 3. No blatant self promotion. It just doesn't look good.What we like here at WATM is articles about vlogging and glowing reviews for the vlogs you love. Now go sign up and get to writing. -- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.comjoshspicks.blogspot.com vlogcats.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Come be a WATM Reporter!
Oh and I tried the form on the registration pageOUCH!Warning: strpos(): Empty delimiter. in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment-functions.php on line 867Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment-functions.php:867) in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-comments-post.php on line 54Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment-functions.php:867) in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-comments-post.php on line 55Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment-functions.php:867) in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-comments-post.php on line 56Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment-functions.php:867) in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/pluggable-functions.php on line 178On Jan 15, 2006, at 11:39 PM, Josh Leo wrote: Registration links: http://wearethemedia.com/2006/01/15/want-to-write-for-watm/Have you ever seen a peice of news that would look great on We Are The Media? Have you found the latest and greatest vlog that nobody knows about? Well registration is open at WATM for new reporters. Go get yourself registered and write that article that you want the vlogging community to see.By becomeing a writer for WATM you agree to abide by the guidelines and have your work edited by the editors. Here are the basic rules, but make sure you go read all the guidelines before writing an article.1. Keep it positive. No mudslinging.2. Your article should be about vlogging. No articles to the latest viral commercial. 3. No blatant self promotion. It just doesn't look good.What we like here at WATM is articles about vlogging and glowing reviews for the vlogs you love. Now go sign up and get to writing. -- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.comjoshspicks.blogspot.com vlogcats.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Come be a WATM Reporter!
darn it...i guess i have to talk to bre...some things never got fixed when he switched serversOn 1/16/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh and I tried the form on the registration pageOUCH!Warning: strpos(): Empty delimiter. in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment- functions.php on line 867Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment- functions.php:867) in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-comments-post.php on line 54Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment- functions.php:867) in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-comments-post.php on line 55Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment- functions.php:867) in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-comments-post.php on line 56Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment- functions.php:867) in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/pluggable-functions.php on line 178On Jan 15, 2006, at 11:39 PM, Josh Leo wrote: Registration links: http://wearethemedia.com/2006/01/15/want-to-write-for-watm/Have you ever seen a peice of news that would look great on We Are The Media? Have you found the latest and greatest vlog that nobody knows about? Well registration is open at WATM for new reporters. Go get yourself registered and write that article that you want the vlogging community to see.By becomeing a writer for WATM you agree to abide by the guidelines and have your work edited by the editors. Here are the basic rules, but make sure you go read all the guidelines before writing an article.1. Keep it positive. No mudslinging.2. Your article should be about vlogging. No articles to the latest viral commercial. 3. No blatant self promotion. It just doesn't look good.What we like here at WATM is articles about vlogging and glowing reviews for the vlogs you love. Now go sign up and get to writing. -- Josh Leojoshleo.com stonefarm.blogspot.comjoshspicks.blogspot.com vlogcats.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.comvlogcats.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
Christian, it's in the non-public beta, which rumors say will be released soon. Email Jay Dedman if you can beta-test for them. On 1/16/06, Christian Wach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Jan 2006, at 12:06, duncan wrote: although now the mac version has browsing things could be getting better for me It does?? Not here - 1.0 b3 - and the FireANT website isn't offering a newer version as far as I can tell... do tell! Christian Yahoo! Groups Links -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] re: Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Hi Stephanie and all,I have two limits: pacing and download/buffer times. 1) I typically stop watching when the video loses my attention. They have a slow pace visually or in delivering information. This is subjective. But typically mainstream media can hold my attention longer than newbie videos becuase mainstream media has a certain pace-- and I like it. Now whethermainstream programs can keep me watching for longer than five minutes is another thing.2) I also don't even start to watchvideos if it takes more than a minute to download/buffer UNLESS I know I want to see this video for some reason I read in the description. This is where format and file size come into play for me. I prefer streaming or progressive downloads, or small files (10mb) of wmv, mov, and mpg.I've spent 20 minutes watchign buffering, watching buffering, watching and buffering --just becuase Iwas riveted bythe content. But that downlaod/buffer time is a killer for most videos because the content doesn't grab me at video beginning.3) Another way to look at this is to ask your viewers what they want. If your viewers want more scenery, give it to them. I they want more info, give that to them. If they want your videos to share on their website-- make it possible. Listen to what they say abotu your videos or ask them for more detailed feedback.For example, drjoevitale.blogspot.com streams flv and is accessible to most people without problems BUT is the content worhty of 2 minutes, 3 minutes or 15 minutes? I know most viewers just a want a glimpse so I try to keep posts short, moving and fun. But I also have a a great lead person who is riveting when he talks, but he also typically talks more than I want timewise. His readers are his viewers and no one seems to mind. He's got their attention and they love him. But he were a slow talker or boring ons screen then I may have cut jumps everywhere to keep thethe pertinant info moving along. The longest video I have up on his site is 15 minutes and I did it to show the entire adjustment session in real time. I kept the camera moving to stimulate visual movement and of course the video is narrated in real time and there is also good natured bantering going on that I knew his audience would love.Nebelungs.blogspot I keep those videos very short short becuase they are in mov format. I also dont want to keep my audience wanting more. I dont want the audienceto ever fill up and get bored with watching Nona.My .02, NerissaNerissa Odenhttp://TheVideoQueen.comhttp://FreeMediaGuide.comhttp://FreeVideoCoding.comhttp://FreeVideoEditing.comhttp://Nebelungs.blogspot.comMy Groups:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videobloggingbusiness/http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/videowomen/* Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
Christian, it's in the non-public beta, which rumors say will be released soon. Will be released publicly very soon. New Windows version and Website too! Its a big update. We've been working hard but have been a little quiet about it here in this group. -Josh On 1/16/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian, it's in the non-public beta, which rumors say will be released soon. Email Jay Dedman if you can beta-test for them. On 1/16/06, Christian Wach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Jan 2006, at 12:06, duncan wrote: although now the mac version has browsing things could be getting better for me It does?? Not here - 1.0 b3 - and the FireANT website isn't offering a newer version as far as I can tell... do tell! Christian Yahoo! Groups Links -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
Sorry, I crashed after replying to the last one.Awake again...On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why pack them all together into a 15 min. video?For context, and ease of use for the viewer. The stuff we include all looks really good together, one right after the other. And on my iPod, if there is 15 minutes of stuff from a site every day, why would I want to have to navigate to the menu each time I want to watch the next segment? That said, I do want to figure out QT chapters so they can easily skip a segment if they wish. Although I'm not so sure it will function on the iPod. The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks.Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. Why not let them each exist as separate videos that can be downloaded quicker and easier? You may as well simply link to the originals too in order to credit the creators. That's been done.Ps. Josh, or any other FireANTers reading this, is there a one-click FireANT subscription mechanism? Or will there be?Thanks for feedback on this, by the way. AQ SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] What to buy and use; Editing software / tools / tapes / magazines /
I think you are all eager to answer some newbie questions? Yes I know they (newbies) keep coming over and over again and ask the same old stupid questions. But hey if you do not ask you never know what others think about it. Well here it goes; The ingredients so far -Bought a digital videocam , Panasonic PV-GS150 3ccd minidv , http://tinyurl.com/7v93n (also spare battery, UV filter, mono-pod, tapes and a 3W light no microfoon yet) -I'm building a website using WordPress http://vlogmatic.com -Have content in my head and its around everywhere. -I read the discussions about duration and publishing of video and all the artistic issues with vlogs. -Have a fast PC with windows XP sp2 and cable internet. Then I got stuck on a few technical questions; 1. What the heck should I use to edit the video's with? I have the free windows XP moviemaker but it is too limited for my desire. I know you can buy all sorts of add-ons but I believe there is no development for moviemaker anymore. However spending over $200 for editing software is not in the budget. What is the next best alternative? (Functions I like/need ; transitions, different fonts, use of green-screen, audio editing, adding sounds and clips) I have not yet decided on the publishing format. Is Vegas movie studio + dvd platinum a good choice? Or Pineaccle Studio media suite 10 ? 2. What are the must have software utility's and/or gadgets? you use on a regular basis? 3. How many times can I use a tape? (Consider it being a good quality tape) 4. Do you subscribe to any video magazines? Ok for now these are my questions and I would appreciate any answers very much. Anything else i did not mention would be important to think of? (yup a catch all question) Blips aka Klaas Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
Ps. Josh, or any other FireANTers reading this, is there a one-click FireANT subscription mechanism? Or will there be? There is, and there will be an easy code-generator to copy-paste and embed a 1-click button into your site. We're gearing up for a new launch this week that will include new versions for Mac and Windows plus a new Website. -Josh On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I crashed after replying to the last one. Awake again... On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why pack them all together into a 15 min. video? For context, and ease of use for the viewer. The stuff we include all looks really good together, one right after the other. And on my iPod, if there is 15 minutes of stuff from a site every day, why would I want to have to navigate to the menu each time I want to watch the next segment? That said, I do want to figure out QT chapters so they can easily skip a segment if they wish. Although I'm not so sure it will function on the iPod. The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. Why not let them each exist as separate videos that can be downloaded quicker and easier? You may as well simply link to the originals too in order to credit the creators. That's been done. Ps. Josh, or any other FireANTers reading this, is there a one-click FireANT subscription mechanism? Or will there be? Thanks for feedback on this, by the way. AQ SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] re: Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
Nerissa, can you explain what you mean by progressive buffering? On 1/16/06, Nerissa (TheVideoQueen) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) I also don't even start to watch videos if it takes more than a minute to download/buffer UNLESS I know I want to see this video for some reason I read in the description. This is where format and file size come into play for me. I prefer streaming or progressive downloads, or small files (10mb) of wmv, mov, and mpg. -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. You should at least provide better text descriptions on the site and in the feed. This will make it easier to trust that you are really providing 15 min. of good stuff. Right now, I have no idea what stuff is there until after I've viewed. Text descriptions are too often overlooked by videobloggers. They are really helpful to the viewer deciding if they want to download and also to search engines to help make your content more findable.I agree with most of this. If it proves to be true that viewers won't watch a video until they've read something about it, we'll probably have to rethink our presentation. Although Rocketboom, Bottomunion, Human-Dog, etc. haven't seemed to have had a problem with a lack of text. We provide a list of the individual creators featured in the video, with links, so that's enough to get you started. But like I said, time will tell... Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones.Right, totally. It just so happens that this 15 minutes is a video doppelganger of what's going on inside my head a lot of the time, so it's a blast for me to watch it, and I usually want it to run longer when I see it. It's an interesting combination of content. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
3 minutes doesn't seem like a long time for a video. until you've got 20 of them to watch.i'll take a 30-second video that's so rockin' i have to watch it three times in a row, over a three-minute one where i'm fast-forwarding going "ok ok... i get it."disclaimer-- i am far from your typical vlog viewer. i'm on dialup and don't subscribe to any feeds. instead i visit sites individually and make download decisions based on the criteria of text description, file size, intriguing screenshot, and easy access to the .mov file (a few of you make this last one kind of difficult). anything over, say 15MB and i'll have to get back to you tomorrow... assuming i leave my modem on all night... and i remember it in the morning. even with my finite download capability i somehow still wind up with a backlog of unwatched vids.xo philiphttp://swordfight.orghttp://destroyhotaction.comOn 16-Jan-06, at 5:00 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant, although most are smaller. i tend to be less patient in the browser. if there is a feed, i'll use that instead if it makes sense. if not, i'll download it in the background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care how long the download takes. i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i prefer a sizable player like fireant. in general, i don't really care how big or how long a video is as long as the content is worth it (there is a limit of course, I'm not looking to download gigabyte files just yet). very few pieces of media can hold my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially movies and TV). i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usually just fast forward. if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within the first 30 seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's not from a friend perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next. again, size is not much of a factor here. while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail to capture my attention these days (this is more of a statement about the increase in the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's just a lot more stuff out there these days) the main reason for stopping a download: i found something else I want sooner my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with no other limits (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is not super fast, i would probably feel different (i.e., more selective) if I had slower access. i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does not seem to make much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it stops and starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward). hope that helps Stephanie Bryant wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
I agree with most of this. If it proves to be true that viewers won't watch a video until they've read something about it, we'll probably have to rethink our presentation. Although Rocketboom, Bottomunion, Human-Dog, etc. Not true. Rocketboom makes great use of text. There are always story links for every episode. Textual descriptors, links, references. This has been RB's presentation from day one. Outbound links help build traffic and the text makes the entries more searchable. RB also uses QT chapter tracks to easily skip around within the video to the desired story link. I think Bottom Union and Human Dog could make much better use of text. I've never been quite sure why they don't. -Josh On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. You should at least provide better text descriptions on the site and in the feed. This will make it easier to trust that you are really providing 15 min. of good stuff. Right now, I have no idea what stuff is there until after I've viewed. Text descriptions are too often overlooked by videobloggers. They are really helpful to the viewer deciding if they want to download and also to search engines to help make your content more findable. I agree with most of this. If it proves to be true that viewers won't watch a video until they've read something about it, we'll probably have to rethink our presentation. Although Rocketboom, Bottomunion, Human-Dog, etc. haven't seemed to have had a problem with a lack of text. We provide a list of the individual creators featured in the video, with links, so that's enough to get you started. But like I said, time will tell... Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. Right, totally. It just so happens that this 15 minutes is a video doppelganger of what's going on inside my head a lot of the time, so it's a blast for me to watch it, and I usually want it to run longer when I see it. It's an interesting combination of content. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
OK, so now i'm wondering if those of us, like me, who prefer shorter videos are simply more vocal than others. Come on, there's got to be some people out there who love the longer videos and just can't get enough of the large files. -Josh On 1/16/06, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 minutes doesn't seem like a long time for a video. until you've got 20 of them to watch. i'll take a 30-second video that's so rockin' i have to watch it three times in a row, over a three-minute one where i'm fast-forwarding going ok ok... i get it. disclaimer-- i am far from your typical vlog viewer. i'm on dialup and don't subscribe to any feeds. instead i visit sites individually and make download decisions based on the criteria of text description, file size, intriguing screenshot, and easy access to the .mov file (a few of you make this last one kind of difficult). anything over, say 15MB and i'll have to get back to you tomorrow... assuming i leave my modem on all night... and i remember it in the morning. even with my finite download capability i somehow still wind up with a backlog of unwatched vids. xo philip http://swordfight.org http://destroyhotaction.com On 16-Jan-06, at 5:00 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant, although most are smaller. i tend to be less patient in the browser. if there is a feed, i'll use that instead if it makes sense. if not, i'll download it in the background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care how long the download takes. i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i prefer a sizable player like fireant. in general, i don't really care how big or how long a video is as long as the content is worth it (there is a limit of course, I'm not looking to download gigabyte files just yet). very few pieces of media can hold my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially movies and TV). i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usually just fast forward. if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within the first 30 seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's not from a friend perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next. again, size is not much of a factor here. while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail to capture my attention these days (this is more of a statement about the increase in the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's just a lot more stuff out there these days) the main reason for stopping a download: i found something else I want sooner my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with no other limits (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is not super fast, i would probably feel different (i.e., more selective) if I had slower access. i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does not seem to make much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it stops and starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward). hope that helps Stephanie Bryant wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
I mean, in theory, if we're talking faster and fatter pipes, won't file size limitations be a thing of the past? -josh On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so now i'm wondering if those of us, like me, who prefer shorter videos are simply more vocal than others. Come on, there's got to be some people out there who love the longer videos and just can't get enough of the large files. -Josh On 1/16/06, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 minutes doesn't seem like a long time for a video. until you've got 20 of them to watch. i'll take a 30-second video that's so rockin' i have to watch it three times in a row, over a three-minute one where i'm fast-forwarding going ok ok... i get it. disclaimer-- i am far from your typical vlog viewer. i'm on dialup and don't subscribe to any feeds. instead i visit sites individually and make download decisions based on the criteria of text description, file size, intriguing screenshot, and easy access to the .mov file (a few of you make this last one kind of difficult). anything over, say 15MB and i'll have to get back to you tomorrow... assuming i leave my modem on all night... and i remember it in the morning. even with my finite download capability i somehow still wind up with a backlog of unwatched vids. xo philip http://swordfight.org http://destroyhotaction.com On 16-Jan-06, at 5:00 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant, although most are smaller. i tend to be less patient in the browser. if there is a feed, i'll use that instead if it makes sense. if not, i'll download it in the background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care how long the download takes. i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i prefer a sizable player like fireant. in general, i don't really care how big or how long a video is as long as the content is worth it (there is a limit of course, I'm not looking to download gigabyte files just yet). very few pieces of media can hold my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially movies and TV). i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usually just fast forward. if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within the first 30 seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's not from a friend perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next. again, size is not much of a factor here. while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail to capture my attention these days (this is more of a statement about the increase in the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's just a lot more stuff out there these days) the main reason for stopping a download: i found something else I want sooner my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with no other limits (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is not super fast, i would probably feel different (i.e., more selective) if I had slower access. i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does not seem to make much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it stops and starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward). hope that helps Stephanie Bryant wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardlyanything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. interesting, since apps like fireANT's main benefit is downloading management which is most valuable if the video is larger (download overnight or while doing other things).if you are a fan of smaller chunks, then you could prob be happy watching videos on the web, no? if your point is about attention span... ok. but it seems that adam made the point that this content will continue to be grabbed by a trusted audience who would love nothing more than content to fill their commute. short, long... whatever. its not even worth debating since the wide audience consists of many different preferences. why ask why and all that. sullOn 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For context, and ease of use for the viewer.But I don't know what's included in the 15 minutes and can't choosewhether or not I want to download it or view it in that order I ama fan of smaller chunks. if there is 15 minutes of stuff from a site every day, why would I want to have to navigate to the menu each time I want to watch the next segment?That seems like an iPod issue. I don't have one, but I'm surprised it doesn't skip to the next video track in a playlist? That said, I do want to figure out QT chapters so they can easily skip a segment if they wish.Although I'm not so sure it will function on the iPod. That would be cool if this feature were supported on the iPod. The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. You should at least provide better text descriptions on the site andin the feed. This will make it easier to trust that you are reallyproviding 15 min. of good stuff. Right now, I have no idea what stuff is there until after I've viewed. Text descriptions are too oftenoverlooked by videobloggers. They are really helpful to the viewerdeciding if they want to download and also to search engines to helpmake your content more findable. Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers.If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardlyanything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones.Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
Well, I wouldn't say I just can't get enough of large files, I just don't really mind longer videos. Some people just make long videos, and if I enjoy them, I watch em! (yes, I'm looking at you, Mr. Richard Show.) After watching the Pan, I can see being on the train and enjoying the 15min...chapter markers would be nice on a portable device, but I also don't feel a need to have their Pan videos sent to me separately. There is something to be said for a curated show-- much like Liquid Television that used to be on MTV. (a compliation show of various animators) As time goes on, and Adam and Mica amass a large collection of original stuff, this could be a very fast-paced, entertaining 15min. You would just have to keep up with the shows before it ate your harddrive away. But that goes for my feeds in general...they always pile up. schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://bayarea.node101.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so now i'm wondering if those of us, like me, who prefer shorter videos are simply more vocal than others. Come on, there's got to be some people out there who love the longer videos and just can't get enough of the large files. -Josh On 1/16/06, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 minutes doesn't seem like a long time for a video. until you've got 20 of them to watch. i'll take a 30-second video that's so rockin' i have to watch it three times in a row, over a three-minute one where i'm fast-forwarding going ok ok... i get it. disclaimer-- i am far from your typical vlog viewer. i'm on dialup and don't subscribe to any feeds. instead i visit sites individually and make download decisions based on the criteria of text description, file size, intriguing screenshot, and easy access to the .mov file (a few of you make this last one kind of difficult). anything over, say 15MB and i'll have to get back to you tomorrow... assuming i leave my modem on all night... and i remember it in the morning. even with my finite download capability i somehow still wind up with a backlog of unwatched vids. xo philip http://swordfight.org http://destroyhotaction.com On 16-Jan-06, at 5:00 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant, although most are smaller. i tend to be less patient in the browser. if there is a feed, i'll use that instead if it makes sense. if not, i'll download it in the background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care how long the download takes. i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i prefer a sizable player like fireant. in general, i don't really care how big or how long a video is as long as the content is worth it (there is a limit of course, I'm not looking to download gigabyte files just yet). very few pieces of media can hold my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially movies and TV). i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usually just fast forward. if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within the first 30 seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's not from a friend perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next. again, size is not much of a factor here. while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail to capture my attention these days (this is more of a statement about the increase in the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's just a lot more stuff out there these days) the main reason for stopping a download: i found something else I want sooner my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with no other limits (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is not super fast, i would probably feel different (i.e., more selective) if I had slower access. i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does not seem to make much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it stops and starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward). hope that helps Stephanie Bryant wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog:
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
interesting, since apps like fireANT's main benefit is downloading management which is most valuable if the video is larger (download overnight or while doing other things). if you are a fan of smaller chunks, then you could prob be happy watching videos on the web, no? No. I am a fan of small chunks... but lots of them from lots of different places and the ability to easily switch between them and manipulate them, etc. Viewing video on the web never seems to allow me to interact this way. -Josh On 1/16/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. interesting, since apps like fireANT's main benefit is downloading management which is most valuable if the video is larger (download overnight or while doing other things). if you are a fan of smaller chunks, then you could prob be happy watching videos on the web, no? if your point is about attention span... ok. but it seems that adam made the point that this content will continue to be grabbed by a trusted audience who would love nothing more than content to fill their commute. short, long... whatever. its not even worth debating since the wide audience consists of many different preferences. why ask why and all that. sull On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For context, and ease of use for the viewer. But I don't know what's included in the 15 minutes and can't choose whether or not I want to download it or view it in that order I am a fan of smaller chunks. if there is 15 minutes of stuff from a site every day, why would I want to have to navigate to the menu each time I want to watch the next segment? That seems like an iPod issue. I don't have one, but I'm surprised it doesn't skip to the next video track in a playlist? That said, I do want to figure out QT chapters so they can easily skip a segment if they wish. Although I'm not so sure it will function on the iPod. That would be cool if this feature were supported on the iPod. The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. You should at least provide better text descriptions on the site and in the feed. This will make it easier to trust that you are really providing 15 min. of good stuff. Right now, I have no idea what stuff is there until after I've viewed. Text descriptions are too often overlooked by videobloggers. They are really helpful to the viewer deciding if they want to download and also to search engines to help make your content more findable. Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
BTW, I've had the opportunity to try out the Apple iTunes convert to ipod feature for video. As a test I converted one feature length movie that had already been ripped from DVD as an mp4 yet was too high res for the ipod. iTunes converted it to a m4v in about 12 hours and it was about 700 mb. COnsidering this is my shit kicker 400 mhz g4 server and it's running all sorts of media tools and aggregation stuff I think it did quite well. In fact I think it was much better than iSquint. My only complaint is that apple needs import settings for video, not just audio. I'd much prefer mp4 and I'd much prefer being able to create a much larger size... say as high as 720 wide. BTW, I also like that Apple creates a queue of videos to convert not sure wether you can stop and restart this queue if you want to quit iTunes of restart, my guess is not, but good enough. You can just let it plug away in the background as other things are going on. This will likely be very handy for converting old viral videos and old vlog posts. Pretty sweet. Oh, one other big problem I haven't figured out yet... It doesn't seem to work with AVI's at all... or WMV or Real. iTunes won't even allow them into the library. I don't know if this will change after I install the DIVX QT component or... if I could find some sort of WMV QT component I'd be one hell of a happy camper! There has to be a way to import WMV's into Quicktime or Final Cut. Anyone? I haven't been doing as much video editing as most of the people here. This would really be dreamy. Being able to put ALL my videos not just standard QT formats in iTunes... and being able to convert them to m4v or mp4 for the iPod... McDreammy. On a side note it's recently occured to me that I'm going to be so sad when the next iPod video comes out... perhaps I bought to early. I can almost guarentee the next ipod will have a) a bigger and wider format screen... b) will do much higher resolution videos. There might be the opportunity that the ROM will be updated on this generation to support higher res formats but it's unlikely do to hardware limitations... I have infact somehow gotten atleast one video on the ipod, where the ipod couldn't keep up with the data rate and it'd skip in fast action scenes... not sure how that happened. My guess for the next video iPod would be a device the same size but with nearly one whole side being a screen... a TOUCH screen that uses mouse gestures and graphics to replicate the click wheel for both volume and scrubbing touch screen menus too :) This by the end of 2006 and possibly much sooner. ... MY other guess the fabled networked ipod with direct aggregation from the web of things subscribed to in the online web store but that's a bit much of a dream. Possible... but unlikely. Peace, -Mike On Jan 16, 2006, at 3:52 AM, Andreas Haugstrup wrote: On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:55:09 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right... you had to drag the stuff in and it automatically converts. But it still had to convert. Its just that the interface was simple and intuitive. I would think that iTunes will try to make the process roughly the same for video on the iPod. Perhaps I confused what Andreas was saying. I thought he meant software authors should only provide two codecs and have the user figure out the rest. He may have meant a content authors, in which case I'm mistaken. Yes, I meant content authors. The videoblogger should only ever have to provide one, perhaps two formats (because Apple and Microsoft will never think what's best for the consumer). The user's software should handle all necessary conversations to make sure the content plays on that user's external devices. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
For me size does not matter (in videos) However you got me mad if i have to download a 10 minute 50MB file showing some dork answering his email thru a vlog using the word whatever and like every 10 seconds. It is not the question do you like long or short video's for me it's more if the content is worth downloading. So people use TAGS!! or descriptions, a picture as a teaser will get me going too. just my 2..whatever Blips aka Klaas (he who is behind vlogmatic) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean, in theory, if we're talking faster and fatter pipes, won't file size limitations be a thing of the past? -josh On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so now i'm wondering if those of us, like me, who prefer shorter videos are simply more vocal than others. Come on, there's got to be some people out there who love the longer videos and just can't get enough of the large files. -Josh On 1/16/06, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 minutes doesn't seem like a long time for a video. until you've got 20 of them to watch. i'll take a 30-second video that's so rockin' i have to watch it three times in a row, over a three-minute one where i'm fast-forwarding going ok ok... i get it. disclaimer-- i am far from your typical vlog viewer. i'm on dialup and don't subscribe to any feeds. instead i visit sites individually and make download decisions based on the criteria of text description, file size, intriguing screenshot, and easy access to the .mov file (a few of you make this last one kind of difficult). anything over, say 15MB and i'll have to get back to you tomorrow... assuming i leave my modem on all night... and i remember it in the morning. even with my finite download capability i somehow still wind up with a backlog of unwatched vids. xo philip http://swordfight.org http://destroyhotaction.com On 16-Jan-06, at 5:00 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant, although most are smaller. i tend to be less patient in the browser. if there is a feed, i'll use that instead if it makes sense. if not, i'll download it in the background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care how long the download takes. i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i prefer a sizable player like fireant. in general, i don't really care how big or how long a video is as long as the content is worth it (there is a limit of course, I'm not looking to download gigabyte files just yet). very few pieces of media can hold my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially movies and TV). i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usually just fast forward. if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within the first 30 seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's not from a friend perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next. again, size is not much of a factor here. while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail to capture my attention these days (this is more of a statement about the increase in the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's just a lot more stuff out there these days) the main reason for stopping a download: i found something else I want sooner my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with no other limits (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is not super fast, i would probably feel different (i.e., more selective) if I had slower access. i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does not seem to make much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it stops and starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward). hope that helps Stephanie Bryant wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
richard (madge) mentioned his desire for longer videoblogs during one of the video conferences a few weeks back Joshua Kinberg wrote: OK, so now i'm wondering if those of us, like me, who prefer shorter videos are simply more vocal than others. Come on, there's got to be some people out there who love the longer videos and just can't get enough of the large files. -Josh On 1/16/06, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 minutes doesn't seem like a long time for a video. until you've got 20 of them to watch. i'll take a 30-second video that's so rockin' i have to watch it three times in a row, over a three-minute one where i'm fast-forwarding going "ok ok... i get it." disclaimer-- i am far from your typical vlog viewer. i'm on dialup and don't subscribe to any feeds. instead i visit sites individually and make download decisions based on the criteria of text description, file size, intriguing screenshot, and easy access to the .mov file (a few of you make this last one kind of difficult). anything over, say 15MB and i'll have to get back to you tomorrow... assuming i leave my modem on all night... and i remember it in the morning. even with my finite download capability i somehow still wind up with a backlog of unwatched vids. xo philip http://swordfight.org http://destroyhotaction.com On 16-Jan-06, at 5:00 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant, although most are smaller. i tend to be less patient in the browser. if there is a feed, i'll use that instead if it makes sense. if not, i'll download it in the background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care how long the download takes. i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i prefer a sizable player like fireant. in general, i don't really care how big or how long a video is as long as the content is worth it (there is a limit of course, I'm not looking to download gigabyte files just yet). very few pieces of media can hold my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially movies and TV). i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usually just fast forward. if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within the first 30 seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's not from a friend perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next. again, size is not much of a factor here. while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail to capture my attention these days (this is more of a statement about the increase in the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's just a lot more stuff out there these days) the main reason for stopping a download: i found something else I want sooner my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with no other limits (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is not super fast, i would probably feel different (i.e., more selective) if I had slower access. i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does not seem to make much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it stops and starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward). hope that helps Stephanie Bryant wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
short, long... whatever. its not even worth debating since the wide audience consists of many different preferences. why ask why and all that. Glad to hear you say that. My own feeling is that if it's done well, it will hold my attention no matter how long. Deirdre Straughan had one the other day that was a car trip to Dallas, the sort of thing that would usually turn me off very soon (how interesting can Texas highways be, anyway??), but it was so cleverly done, with great background music that I enjoyed the whole thing. Minnesota Stories generally last longer than a few minutes and are delightful. Bicycle Sidewalk is generally fun to watch, as are Ravi's Drive Time interviews --and I can't figure out why I'm so taken with Carl Weaver's dry, offbeat humor By the same token, there are some very brief "artsy fartsy" kinds of videos that don't do a thing for me, though when they are clever Ican beimpressed. Like Sull, I think it's all a matter of taste and everybody's tastes are different. I prefer something that shows me something I haven't seen before or presents something familiar in a new light.I also like videos that give me a glimpse into someone's life, like Susan's KityKity, or Doug's glimpse into his world in Providence, RI or Missbhavens life in New York. -- BevBlog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal: http://funnytheworld.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is, and there will be an easy code-generator to copy-paste and embed a 1-click button into your site. We're gearing up for a new launch this week that will include new versions for Mac and Windows plus a new Website.Can you put The PAN in the directory for us?Is there a way to submit a site to that, or is it manual?I bet that's coming with the new release, yes?Also, don't want to split hairs here, but in reference to this: Not true. Rocketboom makes great use of text. There are always story links for every episode. Textual descriptors, links, references. This has been RB's presentation from day one. Outbound links help build traffic and the text makes the entries more searchable.There's only so much time in the day, and between both of us working full-time we're doing pretty good to get the links to all the contributors right after putting together 15min. worth of video. I would like to write a little more about each piece, but we're kinda going for the bare necessities for now. We do have story links though, like RB. AQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Blip and Sprint
Saw this today on CraigslistBlip wants short films The future is right now!Cheers Blip.Share RossRock n Roll TV SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:39:41 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean, in theory, if we're talking faster and fatter pipes, won't file size limitations be a thing of the past? I thought you didn't spoke theory. ;o) Anyway, for the forseeable future demands will probably just rise along with the fattening of the pipes... - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:10:50 +0100, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: richard (madge) mentioned his desire for longer videoblogs during one of the video conferences a few weeks back And Markus posted the quote right after: URL: http://wearethemedia.com/2005/12/27/madge-weinstein-stirs-up-the-videoblogging-video-conference/ - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
iTunes won't even allow them into the library. I don't know if this will change after I install the DIVX QT component ... My experience is that qt codecs do not influence supported video types in itunes. -a Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
I prefer the shorter ones because of where I watch...at work or on my video ipod. When I can have it all connected to my living room tv...then I may want to watch longer pieces. And yeah, it'd better be a progressive download. On 1/16/06, usadutch2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me size does not matter (in videos)However you got me mad if i have to download a 10 minute 50MB fileshowing some dork answering his email thru a vlog using theword whatever and like every 10 seconds. It is not the question do you like long or short video's for meit's more if the content is worth downloading.So people use TAGS!! or descriptions, a picture as a teaser will getme going too. just my 2..whateverBlips aka Klaas (he who is behind vlogmatic)--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I mean, in theory, if we're talking faster and fatter pipes, won't file size limitations be a thing of the past? -josh On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so now i'm wondering if those of us, like me, who prefershorter videos are simply more vocal than others. Come on, there's gotto be some people out there who love the longer videos and just can't get enough of the large files. -JoshOn 1/16/06, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 minutes doesn't seem like a long time for a video. until you've got 20 of them to watch. i'll take a 30-second video that's so rockin' i have to watchit three times in a row, over a three-minute one where i'm fast-forwarding going ok ok... i get it. disclaimer-- i am far from your typical vlog viewer. i'm ondialup and don't subscribe to any feeds. instead i visit sites individually and make download decisionsbased on the criteria of text description, file size, intriguingscreenshot, and easy access to the .mov file (a few of you make this last one kind of difficult). anything over, say 15MB and i'll have to get back to youtomorrow... assuming i leave my modem on all night... and i remember it inthe morning. even with my finite download capability i somehow still windup with a backlog of unwatched vids. xo philip http://swordfight.org http://destroyhotaction.com On 16-Jan-06, at 5:00 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant,although most are smaller.i tend to be less patient in the browser.if there is a feed, i'll use that instead if it makes sense.if not, i'll download it inthe background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care howlong the download takes.i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i prefer a sizable player like fireant.in general, i don't really care how big or how long a videois as long as the content is worth it(there is a limit of course, I'm not looking to download gigabyte files just yet).very few pieces ofmedia can hold my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially moviesand TV). i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usuallyjust fast forward.if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within thefirst 30 seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's notfrom a friend perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next.again, sizeis not much of a factor here. while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail tocapture my attention these days (this is more of a statement about theincrease in the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's just a lot more stuff out there these days)the main reason for stopping a download: i found somethingelse I want sooner my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with noother limits (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is notsuper fast, i would probably feel different ( i.e., more selective) if I hadslower access.i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does notseem to make much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it stops and starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward).hope that helpsStephanie Bryant wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post alarge file to my vlog.How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it'snot too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said theywanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to reallysit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is thatworth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make moresense to stream instead? --Stephanie-- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.comYahoo! Groups Links --My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
Also, with Rocketboom videos, you can click on the actual QT video frame to launch the story links in a browser window, when played in a browser. Most people don't know this detail because it's not mentioned anywhere and I haven't been able to come up with a comfortable graphic to add on top of the video to make this apparent. I'm thinking of adding a message on the begging frame, not sure. themselves and On Jan 16, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: I agree with most of this. If it proves to be true that viewers won't watch a video until they've read something about it, we'll probably have to rethink our presentation. Although Rocketboom, Bottomunion, Human-Dog, etc. Not true. Rocketboom makes great use of text. There are always story links for every episode. Textual descriptors, links, references. This has been RB's presentation from day one. Outbound links help build traffic and the text makes the entries more searchable. RB also uses QT chapter tracks to easily skip around within the video to the desired story link. I think Bottom Union and Human Dog could make much better use of text. I've never been quite sure why they don't. -Josh On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. You should at least provide better text descriptions on the site and in the feed. This will make it easier to trust that you are really providing 15 min. of good stuff. Right now, I have no idea what stuff is there until after I've viewed. Text descriptions are too often overlooked by videobloggers. They are really helpful to the viewer deciding if they want to download and also to search engines to help make your content more findable. I agree with most of this. If it proves to be true that viewers won't watch a video until they've read something about it, we'll probably have to rethink our presentation. Although Rocketboom, Bottomunion, Human-Dog, etc. haven't seemed to have had a problem with a lack of text. We provide a list of the individual creators featured in the video, with links, so that's enough to get you started. But like I said, time will tell... Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. Right, totally. It just so happens that this 15 minutes is a video doppelganger of what's going on inside my head a lot of the time, so it's a blast for me to watch it, and I usually want it to run longer when I see it. It's an interesting combination of content. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
I tend to like shorter too. But then again if something is really good I often wish it was longer. I've been showing Nathan Millers Bicycle Sidewalk to my wife via my ipod plugged into the TV and she loves it. Her complaint is that it's too short! But then again that's the difference between watching on a computer screen and watching on a TV. I would suspect that as more devices come along to allow aggregated internet video content to be displayed on a television then there will be a greater demand for longer videos. On the creative side, I happen to love making short form stuff. I mean I really love it. I love the callenge of keeping something really interesting for 3 to 5 minutes. It's also a good format to learn, experiment and make mistakes in. If you do something really bad you haven't wasted too much of anyones time. But if you think about it, before the Internet the only short form films one might see on a regular basis was television commercials. And that's a real waste of a perfectly good format. Now you might also consider the fact that there are several longer format video blogs that seem to be popular (like Democracy Now) but those tend to have a lot of very high quality content. So yeah if you have enough great content to carry a long format then by all means put it out there!! Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so now i'm wondering if those of us, like me, who prefer shorter videos are simply more vocal than others. Come on, there's got to be some people out there who love the longer videos and just can't get enough of the large files. -Josh On 1/16/06, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 minutes doesn't seem like a long time for a video. until you've got 20 of them to watch. i'll take a 30-second video that's so rockin' i have to watch it three times in a row, over a three-minute one where i'm fast-forwarding going ok ok... i get it. disclaimer-- i am far from your typical vlog viewer. i'm on dialup and don't subscribe to any feeds. instead i visit sites individually and make download decisions based on the criteria of text description, file size, intriguing screenshot, and easy access to the .mov file (a few of you make this last one kind of difficult). anything over, say 15MB and i'll have to get back to you tomorrow... assuming i leave my modem on all night... and i remember it in the morning. even with my finite download capability i somehow still wind up with a backlog of unwatched vids. xo philip http://swordfight.org http://destroyhotaction.com On 16-Jan-06, at 5:00 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant, although most are smaller. i tend to be less patient in the browser. if there is a feed, i'll use that instead if it makes sense. if not, i'll download it in the background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care how long the download takes. i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i prefer a sizable player like fireant. in general, i don't really care how big or how long a video is as long as the content is worth it (there is a limit of course, I'm not looking to download gigabyte files just yet). very few pieces of media can hold my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially movies and TV). i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usually just fast forward. if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within the first 30 seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's not from a friend perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next. again, size is not much of a factor here. while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail to capture my attention these days (this is more of a statement about the increase in the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's just a lot more stuff out there these days) the main reason for stopping a download: i found something else I want sooner my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with no other limits (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is not super fast, i would probably feel different (i.e., more selective) if I had slower access. i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does not seem to make much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it stops and starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward). hope that helps Stephanie Bryant wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the
[videoblogging] Godaddy question
Anyone using Godaddy currently and if yeah feedback on how well you like it and what package you got? I'm thinking of doing the domain name yadda yadda stuff and could use some input. If I go with this thing I'll be changing my vlog name and all that good glop too so it all syncs up nicely. I hate feeling Like I've got multiple personality disorder ack. Thanks in advance!! Lis Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Godaddy question
I use both Godaddy and Dreamhost, and I'll always recommend Dreamhost over Godaddy. I've had a terrible amount of downtime with Godaddy since I began using them for a video site last year. It seems that when a certain amount of people try to download the same video on a Godaddy server, it just automatically shuts down and you have to manually reboot the server. Unacceptable.Go Dreamhost. They just increased their bandwidth allowances to some ridiculously large number too.If you want a code for a deal there, I think vlogmap works if I remember correctly. You may want to search the archive of this group for dreamhost code.AQOn 1/16/06, grasshopperatyourfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone using Godaddy currently and if yeah feedback on how well you like it and what package you got? I'm thinking of doing the domain name yadda yadda stuff and could use some input. If I go with this thing I'll be changing my vlog name and all that good glop too so it all syncs up nicely. I hate feeling Like I've got multiple personality disorder ack. Thanks in advance!! Lis SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Blip and Sprint
They don't want films made to entertain children... I guess that leaves me out... heh Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Share [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw this today on Craigslist Blip wants short films The future is right now! Cheers Blip. Share Ross Rock n Roll TV Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: What to buy and use; Editing software / tools / tapes / magazines /
I'm one of the few PC users out here, and I use Roxio. If you can still find Roxio 7, it supports 3ivx, which allows you to make mp4's in one fell swoop. (Currently Roxio 8 does not support mp4 output). Personally, I can't stand Pinnacle. I don't have the latest version, but the older version I had crashed constantly, and took forever to encode. Read lots of online reviews. I have always heard that you should only use a tape one time... but then again, I don't have a tape camcorder (mine saves to memory stick)... others might chime in on this one. Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, usadutch2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you are all eager to answer some newbie questions? Yes I know they (newbies) keep coming over and over again and ask the same old stupid questions. But hey if you do not ask you never know what others think about it. Well here it goes; The ingredients so far -Bought a digital videocam , Panasonic PV-GS150 3ccd minidv , http://tinyurl.com/7v93n (also spare battery, UV filter, mono-pod, tapes and a 3W light no microfoon yet) -I'm building a website using WordPress http://vlogmatic.com -Have content in my head and its around everywhere. -I read the discussions about duration and publishing of video and all the artistic issues with vlogs. -Have a fast PC with windows XP sp2 and cable internet. Then I got stuck on a few technical questions; 1. What the heck should I use to edit the video's with? I have the free windows XP moviemaker but it is too limited for my desire. I know you can buy all sorts of add-ons but I believe there is no development for moviemaker anymore. However spending over $200 for editing software is not in the budget. What is the next best alternative? (Functions I like/need ; transitions, different fonts, use of green-screen, audio editing, adding sounds and clips) I have not yet decided on the publishing format. Is Vegas movie studio + dvd platinum a good choice? Or Pineaccle Studio media suite 10 ? 2. What are the must have software utility's and/or gadgets? you use on a regular basis? 3. How many times can I use a tape? (Consider it being a good quality tape) 4. Do you subscribe to any video magazines? Ok for now these are my questions and I would appreciate any answers very much. Anything else i did not mention would be important to think of? (yup a catch all question) Blips aka Klaas Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: The PAN!
What if I don't have a cock at all? Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Bennett-Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our team of trained professionals works around the cock developing original content What if I want my cock included? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Come be a WATM Reporter!
ooof! I was able to register and log in. Now I just have to come up with something newsworthy. I wont be prolific, but I do hope that I can add a different voice to the mix. This is very cool.On 1/16/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh and I tried the form on the registration pageOUCH!Warning: strpos(): Empty delimiter. in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment- functions.php on line 867Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment- functions.php:867) in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-comments-post.php on line 54Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment- functions.php:867) in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-comments-post.php on line 55Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment- functions.php:867) in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-comments-post.php on line 56Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/comment- functions.php:867) in /home/.neema/watm/wearethemedia.com/wp-includes/pluggable-functions.php on line 178 On Jan 15, 2006, at 11:39 PM, Josh Leo wrote: Registration links: http://wearethemedia.com/2006/01/15/want-to-write-for-watm/Have you ever seen a peice of news that would look great on We Are The Media? Have you found the latest and greatest vlog that nobody knows about? Well registration is open at WATM for new reporters. Go get yourself registered and write that article that you want the vlogging community to see.By becomeing a writer for WATM you agree to abide by the guidelines and have your work edited by the editors. Here are the basic rules, but make sure you go read all the guidelines before writing an article. 1. Keep it positive. No mudslinging.2. Your article should be about vlogging. No articles to the latest viral commercial. 3. No blatant self promotion. It just doesn't look good.What we like here at WATM is articles about vlogging and glowing reviews for the vlogs you love. Now go sign up and get to writing. -- Josh Leojoshleo.com stonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.com vlogcats.blogspot.com wearethemedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagamitagami.comU N I V E R S U S . N E T YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blip and Sprint
I thought I heard that this company was not the same as the blip we all know and love for hosting. Are they related? On 1/16/06, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't want films made to entertain children... I guess that leaves me out... heh Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Share [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw this today on Craigslist Blip wants short films The future is right now! Cheers Blip. Share Ross Rock n Roll TV Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] What to buy and use; Editing software / tools / tapes / magazines /
I use the same camera. I hate Sony Vegas. I use Premier Elements 2.0, and I like it ALOT :-) - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com On 1/16/06, usadutch2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you are all eager to answer some newbie questions? Yes I know they (newbies) keep coming over and over again and ask the same old stupid questions. But hey if you do not ask you never know what others think about it. Well here it goes; The ingredients so far -Bought a digital videocam , Panasonic PV-GS150 3ccd minidv , http://tinyurl.com/7v93n (also spare battery, UV filter, mono-pod, tapes and a 3W light no microfoon yet) -I'm building a website using WordPress http://vlogmatic.com -Have content in my head and its around everywhere. -I read the discussions about duration and publishing of video and all the artistic issues with vlogs. -Have a fast PC with windows XP sp2 and cable internet. Then I got stuck on a few technical questions; 1. What the heck should I use to edit the video's with? I have the free windows XP moviemaker but it is too limited for my desire. I know you can buy all sorts of add-ons but I believe there is no development for moviemaker anymore. However spending over $200 for editing software is not in the budget. What is the next best alternative? (Functions I like/need ; transitions, different fonts, use of green-screen, audio editing, adding sounds and clips) I have not yet decided on the publishing format. Is Vegas movie studio + dvd platinum a good choice? Or Pineaccle Studio media suite 10 ? 2. What are the must have software utility's and/or gadgets? you use on a regular basis? 3. How many times can I use a tape? (Consider it being a good quality tape) 4. Do you subscribe to any video magazines? Ok for now these are my questions and I would appreciate any answers very much. Anything else i did not mention would be important to think of? (yup a catch all question) Blips aka Klaas Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blip and Sprint
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:31:19 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I heard that this company was not the same as the blip we all know and love for hosting. They're not. There's the Blip we love and then there's the blip whore who has a pact with sprint. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
If it is something interesting, I don't mind the longer clips at all. I usually load 'em up in a new tab (firefox) and carry on with whatever I was doing until they are done. On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so now i'm wondering if those of us, like me, who prefer shorter videos are simply more vocal than others. Come on, there's got to be some people out there who love the longer videos and just can't get enough of the large files. -Josh On 1/16/06, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 minutes doesn't seem like a long time for a video. until you've got 20 of them to watch. i'll take a 30-second video that's so rockin' i have to watch it three times in a row, over a three-minute one where i'm fast-forwarding going ok ok... i get it. disclaimer-- i am far from your typical vlog viewer. i'm on dialup and don't subscribe to any feeds. instead i visit sites individually and make download decisions based on the criteria of text description, file size, intriguing screenshot, and easy access to the .mov file (a few of you make this last one kind of difficult). anything over, say 15MB and i'll have to get back to you tomorrow... assuming i leave my modem on all night... and i remember it in the morning. even with my finite download capability i somehow still wind up with a backlog of unwatched vids. xo philip http://swordfight.org http://destroyhotaction.com On 16-Jan-06, at 5:00 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant, although most are smaller. i tend to be less patient in the browser. if there is a feed, i'll use that instead if it makes sense. if not, i'll download it in the background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care how long the download takes. i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i prefer a sizable player like fireant. in general, i don't really care how big or how long a video is as long as the content is worth it (there is a limit of course, I'm not looking to download gigabyte files just yet). very few pieces of media can hold my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially movies and TV). i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usually just fast forward. if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within the first 30 seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's not from a friend perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next. again, size is not much of a factor here. while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail to capture my attention these days (this is more of a statement about the increase in the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's just a lot more stuff out there these days) the main reason for stopping a download: i found something else I want sooner my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with no other limits (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is not super fast, i would probably feel different (i.e., more selective) if I had slower access. i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does not seem to make much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it stops and starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward). hope that helps Stephanie Bryant wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: The PAN!
I think I am more of a fan of picking out my own content. That is the beauty of video on the web...the options. If I wanted someone else picking out what was cool for me to watch I could just turn on TV? No? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. You should at least provide better text descriptions on the site and in the feed. This will make it easier to trust that you are really providing 15 min. of good stuff. Right now, I have no idea what stuff is there until after I've viewed. Text descriptions are too often overlooked by videobloggers. They are really helpful to the viewer deciding if they want to download and also to search engines to help make your content more findable. I agree with most of this. If it proves to be true that viewers won't watch a video until they've read something about it, we'll probably have to rethink our presentation. Although Rocketboom, Bottomunion, Human- Dog, etc. haven't seemed to have had a problem with a lack of text. We provide a list of the individual creators featured in the video, with links, so that's enough to get you started. But like I said, time will tell... Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. Right, totally. It just so happens that this 15 minutes is a video doppelganger of what's going on inside my head a lot of the time, so it's a blast for me to watch it, and I usually want it to run longer when I see it. It's an interesting combination of content. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The PAN!
I have found a ton of sites and video from other's that I may not have found myself. That is what I love about Steve Garfield's Vlog Soup, etc.On 1/16/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I am more of a fan of picking out my own content. That is the beauty of video on the web...the options. If I wanted someone else picking out what was cool for me to watch I could just turn on TV? No? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. You should at least provide better text descriptions on the site and in the feed. This will make it easier to trust that you are really providing 15 min. of good stuff. Right now, I have no idea what stuff is there until after I've viewed. Text descriptions are too often overlooked by videobloggers. They are really helpful to the viewer deciding if they want to download and also to search engines to help make your content more findable. I agree with most of this. If it proves to be true that viewers won't watch a video until they've read something about it, we'll probably have to rethink our presentation. Although Rocketboom, Bottomunion, Human- Dog, etc. haven't seemed to have had a problem with a lack of text. We provide a list of the individual creators featured in the video, with links, so that's enough to get you started. But like I said, time will tell... Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. Right, totally. It just so happens that this 15 minutes is a video doppelganger of what's going on inside my head a lot of the time, so it's a blast for me to watch it, and I usually want it to run longer when I see it. It's an interesting combination of content. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~DevlonBlog: http://devlond.blogspot.comVlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
On Jan 16, 2006, at 12:22 AM, Stephanie Bryant wrote:How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, asa vlog watcher):1) Stop downloading the file.For the most part, I download videos with FireAnt so this doesn't apply. It does it in the background or when I'm asleep so as far as I'm concerned I'm almost never waiting for a video to download. On the rare occasion when I am watching a video while it downloads, quicktime's fast start and windows media buffering thing pretty much mean a short wait, 10 - 15 sec, before I can watch the video. This is true no matter how long the video is. Check out this 30 min short film I posted on my server. URL: http://www.michaelverdi.com/video/thenosferatu.mov It started playing in under 5 seconds for me. It's 122 MB.2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring).I think this all depends on the context. If it's a video from a friend or from a feed that I know that I like, I'll watch any length - though it's nice to know ahead of time if it's going to be more than 10 minutes. If I have no personal investment - they're not a friend or something I already know that I like - then I'll give it a few minutes if it seems interesting but if I don't find anything that speaks to me inside the first minute, I usually skip over it.--Me: http://michaelverdi.comRD: http://evilvlog.comLearn to videoblog: http://freevlog.orgLearn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blip and Sprint
http://bliptv.com/On 1/16/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:31:19 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I thought I heard that this company was not the same as the blip we all know and love for hosting.They're not. There's the Blip we love and then there's the blip whore who has a pact with sprint.- Andreas--URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology.Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blip and Sprint
lol ... something tells me you're not a fan of sprint? :-P On 1/16/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:31:19 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I heard that this company was not the same as the blip we all know and love for hosting. They're not. There's the Blip we love and then there's the blip whore who has a pact with sprint. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The PAN!
On 1/16/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I am more of a fan of picking out my own content. That is the beauty of video on the web...the options. If I wanted someone else picking out what was cool for me to watch I could just turn on TV? No?This is very true. If what you wanted to watch existed on the TV, then that would be the place you would watch it. The point here is that this stuff isn't made for the TV, it's made for The PAN. Eventually, in a predetermined time period, we are going to have 100% original content made specifically for The PAN. We just don't have the resources to do it yet.Until then, we find videos that we want to watch, and think that other people would want to watch, and put them in the feed. It's a matter of taste though, and if you don't like the stuff we're putting in there from other people, you probably won't like the stuff we're creating originally either. The beauty of video on the web, for me, is that you can do whatever the fuck you want.From your statements, can I assume that you watched the 1st video and were unimpressed by our content?AQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: re: Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
Nerissa, can you explain what you mean by "progressive buffering"?On 1/16/06, Nerissa (TheVideoQueen) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) I also don't even start to watch videos if it takes more than a minute to download/buffer UNLESS I know I want to see this video for some reason I read in the description. This is where format and file size come into play for me. I prefer streaming or progressive downloads, or small files (10mb) of wmv, mov, and mpg. I dont see where I said progressive "buffering" in the above quote you included, but if I did some where in my previous email just know I meant progressive "downloads".An example of progressive download iswhen anflvis used with my freevideocoding.com integrated player.The flv filedownloads to browser temp folder but starts to play almost immediatelyway before flv filecompletes downloading process. Streaming files on the other hand, aredifferent from downloads and progressive downloads both.Nerissa Odenhttp://TheVideoQueen.comhttp://FreeMediaGuide.comhttp://FreeVideoCoding.comhttp://FreeVideoEditing.comhttp://Nebelungs.blogspot.comMy Groups:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videobloggingbusiness/http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/videowomen/*__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Blip and Sprint
OMG! thanks for the clarification on that Andreas. Had no idea there was an evil blip. cheers. s. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:31:19 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I heard that this company was not the same as the blip we all know and love for hosting. They're not. There's the Blip we love and then there's the blip whore who has a pact with sprint. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blip and Sprint
I've never had to endure Sprint, but I'm not a fan of companies stealing the name of other companies. It creates confusion and the blip.tv guys don't need that. - Andreas On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:53:07 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lol ... something tells me you're not a fan of sprint? :-P On 1/16/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:31:19 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I heard that this company was not the same as the blip we all know and love for hosting. They're not. There's the Blip we love and then there's the blip whore who has a pact with sprint. -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Where are the emails?
Sydney Australia. Just as well, the Tuesday flash meeting is on Wednesday afternoons here. :) On 1/17/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THank god!We were taking a respite... in the U.S. we call it sleeping, verynecessary even if some don't actually do it so much.Monday afternoon? Where in the heck are you at anyway... China? Russia? India? :)-MikeOn Jan 15, 2006, at 10:15 PM, Joan Khoo wrote:It's a Monday afternoon and there are no emails filling my inbox.Where did they all go?Are we going soft?What happened to the videoblogging group boasting 50 emails a day! The one that is constantly clogging up my inbox?!JoanYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Screencasting in Windows Media File (long)
This is not specifically vlog-related, but I need some help and you are all very knowledgeable. I am normally a Mac/iMovie user, so this is all a steep learning curve. Unfortunately, my deadline is tomorrow for a finished product, so I have to leap the curve ASAP. OK, here are the specs of my assignment: Make a training video using Windows to be put on a DVD. Have screencam video in it (basically, video of my desktop as I perform various tasks). Here's what I did and what's going wrong: I used Windows Media Encoder to capture the screen. No problems there, though everything ran slowly. I used a custom encoder profile: Screen capture, no audio. Encode to file, no limit. Compression: Video encoding mode:CBR Audience: 1009 Kbps Video codec:Windows Media Video 9 Video bit rate: 1000 Kbps Video size: Same as video input Frame rate: 29.97 fps Key frame: 6 s Image quality: 0 Buffer size:Default Not 2-pass encoding (which WME kept complaining wasn't possible with screencapture) No cropping No video processing options No plugins No security What's going wrong is that I imported these files into Windows Movie Maker and when I preview the clip from the Collection, it's fine. When I preview the clip from the storyboard, it's nearly impossible to view-- the text is fuzzy and bitmappy. A screen shot of the storyboard is available here, but I can't get the collection to screenshot properly-- it appears to not want to take an accurate screenshot (probably playing video via plugin?): View from the Storyboard: http://www.scottrell.com/personal/images/FromStoryboard.png So, the question is: Should I worry about this Collections preview issue? Is it just previewing badly, but will show up fine in the final rendering? I might add: the generated .avi from these files (I tested it), so far, has not impressed me-- they appear to be very jumpy. When I import them into Roxio, they appear to smooth out, but I haven't actually burned the DVD yet to see how well it plays. Help? Suggestions? Tips and tricks? Please don't tell me to use iMovie. I can't take the screencam except on the windows box, and the screencam software saves as WMV. If all else fails, I will bring the Mac laptop tomorrow and try to convert everything to .mov and use iMovie, but tomorrow's my last day here, and I needed these training videos to be done by then. Thanks in advance, --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: The PAN!
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, with Rocketboom videos, you can click on the actual QT video frame to launch the story links in a browser window, when played in a browser. Most people don't know this detail because it's not mentioned anywhere and I haven't been able to come up with a comfortable graphic to add on top of the video to make this apparent. I'm thinking of adding a message on the begging frame, not sure. This is a great feature! But I just tried it and found 2 issues: In Firefox, the link is blocked as a pop-up and nothing happens. After a couple of tries I just happened to notice the Firefox blocker and changed the preferences to allow if from RB. Something else that needs to be pointed out. The link then took me to a new tab, but the video continued playing. So, that meant going back to the tab in which RB was playing, stopping the video, going to the new tab which has the linked article or video, then going back to RB. Once I did this a couple of times, of course, I realized that if I stop the video, then click on the frame, I got to the link. Something else to be documented. But I like the feature very much. Now you've got me wondering what is the begging frame? It's great that you've been so open and helpful with what is going into RB. Thanks. Stan Hirson http://hestakaup.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
Just an FYI... that PSP feed I think needs a little work.http://thepan.org/psp.xmlI plugged it into mefeedia and got no videos. Looked at the feed and it only has one video in it.http://mefeedia.com/feeds/4217/Is this the exact same feed used in itunes?I'm not quite ready to click on that link and dig the url out of itunes interface... rat itunes bastards. :)-MikeOn Jan 16, 2006, at 3:31 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: Note to you FireANT users, if you want to subscribe just use the PSP feed.It has the same QT videos as the iTunes feed.I'd also like to say...woo...and whew.-AQ Thank you,Mica, Adam, and the PAN team Meet our contributors – http://thepan.org/contributors/ Visit The PAN – http://thepan.org / SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blip and Sprint
I seriously hope blip.tv has a trademark registration-- the name similarity IS causing customer confusion, which is exactly what trademark exists to prevent. This Blip whore needs to go! --Stephanie On 1/16/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:31:19 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I heard that this company was not the same as the blip we all know and love for hosting. They're not. There's the Blip we love and then there's the blip whore who has a pact with sprint. -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Godaddy question
I use GoDaddy, but my buddies like Adam and Bill Streeter keep telling me how good Dream Host is and they are, of course, smarter, but I'm lazier and I'm also afraid of the hassle of changing - especially since I'd have to change the ftp stuff in blogger to point to dream host and then the world would explode, I'm sure. However, another good thing about dream host is that you can get wordpress with one click, which is supposed to be infinately better than blogger, but, of course, I'm way too chicken for that - surely the sky would fall if I tried to transfer all my stuff to another type of blogging software - so I will probably stick with my safe little godaddy and blogger snickums and love them and hug them and hope they are always nice. One important thing, though, is that GoDaddy does not host my videos. Those are hosted on blip. GoDaddy just hosts my pages and, in fact, I use blogger and just set it so it points to GoDaddy, as I mentioned above, so, I don't see any problems with video downloads like Adam describes. The GoDaddy support is generally pretty good and I think I recall that Bill said that he thought GoDaddy was a good place to register domains, though I'm not sure why that is necessarily.Of course, I could just go downstairs and tell you all this, since you are my daughter and you are in my house, but that would involve human contact, and I'm a Cyber Dad. Also, others on the list would want to hear my great wisdom, I'm sure. ... Great Wisdom RichardOn 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use both Godaddy and Dreamhost, and I'll always recommend Dreamhost over Godaddy. I've had a terrible amount of downtime with Godaddy since I began using them for a video site last year. It seems that when a certain amount of people try to download the same video on a Godaddy server, it just automatically shuts down and you have to manually reboot the server. Unacceptable.Go Dreamhost. They just increased their bandwidth allowances to some ridiculously large number too.If you want a code for a deal there, I think vlogmap works if I remember correctly. You may want to search the archive of this group for dreamhost code.AQOn 1/16/06, grasshopperatyourfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone using Godaddy currently and if yeah feedback on how well you like it and what package you got? I'm thinking of doing the domain name yadda yadda stuff and could use some input. If I go with this thing I'll be changing my vlog name and all that good glop too so it all syncs up nicely. I hate feeling Like I've got multiple personality disorder ack. Thanks in advance!! Lis SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Screencasting in Windows Media File (long)
On 1/16/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Image quality: 0That's a problem, I bet. I use 70 at least, and that's when I don't care about sharpness too much.I'd think for a screencast you'll want to make it 95 or so. You set it in the Video Smoothness box under the Compression tab in WME. AQ SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
Where's your mefeedia one click button!? I want mefeedia! http://mefeedia.com/feed_promote.php?id=4217 Of course please make sure you get your feed 100% first I want to be able to watch it too. :) BTW, I personally LOVE the format... sure it has some kinks.. but it's experimental... I think you're going to here a lot of people saying it's tooo long or to short... whatever... it is what it is and I can't wait to see how it progresses... Just make sure you include good links and text about what's included in the RSS so I have something to read or click on while I'm watching or waiting for it to download or whatever. :) -Mike On Jan 16, 2006, at 12:28 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Ps. Josh, or any other FireANTers reading this, is there a one- click FireANT subscription mechanism? Or will there be? There is, and there will be an easy code-generator to copy-paste and embed a 1-click button into your site. We're gearing up for a new launch this week that will include new versions for Mac and Windows plus a new Website. -Josh On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I crashed after replying to the last one. Awake again... On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why pack them all together into a 15 min. video? For context, and ease of use for the viewer. The stuff we include all looks really good together, one right after the other. And on my iPod, if there is 15 minutes of stuff from a site every day, why would I want to have to navigate to the menu each time I want to watch the next segment? That said, I do want to figure out QT chapters so they can easily skip a segment if they wish. Although I'm not so sure it will function on the iPod. The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. Why not let them each exist as separate videos that can be downloaded quicker and easier? You may as well simply link to the originals too in order to credit the creators. That's been done. Ps. Josh, or any other FireANTers reading this, is there a one- click FireANT subscription mechanism? Or will there be? Thanks for feedback on this, by the way. AQ SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
Hmm, well it's only supposed to have one video in it, since today's the 1st day. But I wonder why it's not showing up in Mefeedia?The gaddammed Effing movable type plugin is making an enclosure out of our poster frame, which has been baffling me for several weeks now. But I don't think Mefeedia would reject a feed due to multiple enclosures. iTunes just takes the correct one (somehow). The itunes feed is: http://thepan.org/ipod.xmlNote to anybody using MTEnclosures, know how to exclude an enclosure by length? I can't use mime_exclude because they're both technically qt vids.I posted at the MT message board to no avail.Maybe I need to email Brandon Fuller directlyAQ On 1/16/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an FYI... that PSP feed I think needs a little work.http://thepan.org/psp.xml I plugged it into mefeedia and got no videos. Looked at the feed and it only has one video in it. http://mefeedia.com/feeds/4217/Is this the exact same feed used in itunes?I'm not quite ready to click on that link and dig the url out of itunes interface... rat itunes bastards. :) -MikeOn Jan 16, 2006, at 3:31 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: Note to you FireANT users, if you want to subscribe just use the PSP feed. It has the same QT videos as the iTunes feed.I'd also like to say...woo...and whew.-AQ Thank you,Mica, Adam, and the PAN team Meet our contributors – http://thepan.org/contributors/ Visit The PAN – http://thepan.org / SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
On 1/16/06, johngaltsjournal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I wouldn't say I just can't get enough of large files, I just don't really mind longervideos.Some people just make long videos, and if I enjoy them, I watch em! (yes, I'm looking atyou, Mr. Richard Show.) ... hey, my recent ones are shorter ... really ... I'm down below a gigabyte and , my last was shorter than the most recent Harry Potter movie ... well, almost ... Richard (War and Peace of the Vlog World) -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
I tried adding it earlier and noticed the two enclosure tags. I wouldn't think the system would exclude it for that, but I'll look at the code tonight.On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, well it's only supposed to have one video in it, since today's the 1st day. But I wonder why it's not showing up in Mefeedia?The gaddammed Effing movable type plugin is making an enclosure out of our poster frame, which has been baffling me for several weeks now. But I don't think Mefeedia would reject a feed due to multiple enclosures. iTunes just takes the correct one (somehow). The itunes feed is: http://thepan.org/ipod.xmlNote to anybody using MTEnclosures, know how to exclude an enclosure by length? I can't use mime_exclude because they're both technically qt vids.I posted at the MT message board to no avail.Maybe I need to email Brandon Fuller directlyAQ On 1/16/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an FYI... that PSP feed I think needs a little work.http://thepan.org/psp.xml I plugged it into mefeedia and got no videos. Looked at the feed and it only has one video in it. http://mefeedia.com/feeds/4217/Is this the exact same feed used in itunes?I'm not quite ready to click on that link and dig the url out of itunes interface... rat itunes bastards. :) -MikeOn Jan 16, 2006, at 3:31 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: Note to you FireANT users, if you want to subscribe just use the PSP feed. It has the same QT videos as the iTunes feed.I'd also like to say...woo...and whew.-AQ Thank you,Mica, Adam, and the PAN team Meet our contributors – http://thepan.org/contributors/ Visit The PAN – http://thepan.org / SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~DevlonBlog: http://devlond.blogspot.comVlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Screencasting in Windows Media File (long)
That didn't seem to help in previewing in the Storyboard. The files play just fine in Windows Media Player when I view them separately from the Windows Movie Maker. --Stephanie On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/16/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Image quality: 0 That's a problem, I bet. I use 70 at least, and that's when I don't care about sharpness too much.I'd think for a screencast you'll want to make it 95 or so. You set it in the Video Smoothness box under the Compression tab in WME. AQ SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Stephanie Bryant[EMAIL PROTECTED]Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.comAudioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Godaddy question
I use Godaddy for domains but not for hosting. I use them for domains because they're not jerks and the prices and features are fine. I've had them for a couple years now, and my long term experience has been good. For hosting something about them doesn't turn me on, though that's just a vibe thing. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Godaddy question
I have about 75 domains registered at GoDaddy. i like the interface and management tools. But I host with Dreamhost and oc3Networks. -halcyon spreadingthepink.com On 1/16/06, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Godaddy for domains but not for hosting. I use them for domains because they're not jerks and the prices and features are fine. I've had them for a couple years now, and my long term experience has been good. For hosting something about them doesn't turn me on, though that's just a vibe thing. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] help with audio into computer
I have a digital mixer (BOSS BR-864), and it has a usb port and it's done a really good job with music or voice I have recorded, transferred to my computer and used in vlogs.I have also tried to do voice over recording with Final Cut Pro by just sticking a cheap microphone in the mic input and it sounds like crap, naturally. It's a pretty big hassle to have to record voice on my digital recorder, which sounds really good, then upload it to the computer, and then add it to the editing program separately, as opposed to doing it real time. As you probably have guessed, my question is: can I use the digital mixer to record directly onto the computer to use with things like final cut voice over or something like garage band?This is probably a stupid question and the answer is probably of course you can or of course you can not you big geeb, but that has never stopped me before. The mixer does have (from the manual):a) Line Out Jack: These are the output jacks for the analog audio signal. You can connect tape recorders, or other recording devices to record the output analog signal from the BR 864 (looks like regular RCA jacks - i think that's what they are called) and b) Digital Out Connector: Optical connector for outputting digital audio signals. The same sound that is output from LINE OUT is also output from DIGITAL OUT. You can connect a DAT recorder or CD recorder to this connector and make digital recordings of the BR-864's output ... This is a very weird looking jack I've never seen before. ... oh yeah, I also noticed that my power book does not have a line in hole like my PC does, just a mic and headphone jack, so I don't know if that makes a difference... Any help would be much appreciated ... thanks! ... Richard p.s. I have some nice microphones - old Sure SM58s, if that makes any difference - I use these with the mixer, but have never tried to find some sort of jack that would make it fit in the tiny little mic hole in the computer ... not knowing if that would make any difference .. -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] New Blog. Underwater, film sets, theme, and deeper meaning.
hey guys I just finished my newest blog http://vilekylefasanella.blogspot.com/ The Line Blurs. I am trying something new and want to know what you guys think. kyle fasanella Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
I don't care that much about the filesize, since my aggregator fetches the media in the background. Here is my take on the length issue. I am a fast forwarder. I fast forward through stuff im not sure on. I may fast forward through some vlogs, while others will play uninterrupted. Here's an example : For example i may fast forward through some of kitykity videos while i usually don't with the human dog videos. I pick these two because they are two vlogs i enjoy, but are different by design and i approach viewing them differently (Not to offend Susan, i like her character in the videos, i sometimes FF through the more family oriented videos.) My point is that i don't skip, I fast forward and I like having that choice. So i prefer the vloggers just listen to their audience and that little vlog-voice in their heads when it comes to length of the videos. Hope this makes sense to someone. -Addi On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so now i'm wondering if those of us, like me, who prefer shorter videos are simply more vocal than others. Come on, there's got to be some people out there who love the longer videos and just can't get enough of the large files. -Josh On 1/16/06, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 minutes doesn't seem like a long time for a video. until you've got 20 of them to watch. i'll take a 30-second video that's so rockin' i have to watch it three times in a row, over a three-minute one where i'm fast-forwarding going ok ok... i get it. disclaimer-- i am far from your typical vlog viewer. i'm on dialup and don't subscribe to any feeds. instead i visit sites individually and make download decisions based on the criteria of text description, file size, intriguing screenshot, and easy access to the .mov file (a few of you make this last one kind of difficult). anything over, say 15MB and i'll have to get back to you tomorrow... assuming i leave my modem on all night... and i remember it in the morning. even with my finite download capability i somehow still wind up with a backlog of unwatched vids. xo philip http://swordfight.org http://destroyhotaction.com On 16-Jan-06, at 5:00 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: i regularly download files in the 80-100Mb via fireant, although most are smaller. i tend to be less patient in the browser. if there is a feed, i'll use that instead if it makes sense. if not, i'll download it in the background. i generally multi-task and so rarely care how long the download takes. i prefer not to view vids in the browser, i prefer a sizable player like fireant. in general, i don't really care how big or how long a video is as long as the content is worth it (there is a limit of course, I'm not looking to download gigabyte files just yet). very few pieces of media can hold my full attention for 40 minutes anymore (especially movies and TV). i don't generally stop watching when it gets long, i usually just fast forward. if i do stop, i generally stop watching a video within the first 30 seconds. If it has not captured me by then (or if it's not from a friend perhaps), I delete it and move on to the next. again, size is not much of a factor here. while i constantly find great stuff, most videos fail to capture my attention these days (this is more of a statement about the increase in the number of videos, not a decrease in quality - there's just a lot more stuff out there these days) the main reason for stopping a download: i found something else I want sooner my download speed is usually in the 512Kb-1Mb range with no other limits (e.g., total downloads not limited). while this is not super fast, i would probably feel different (i.e., more selective) if I had slower access. i like streaming for the video conferences, but it does not seem to make much sense to me for vlogs (from a viewer standpoint, it stops and starts too much and it's usually hard to fast forward). hope that helps Stephanie Bryant wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog:
Re: [videoblogging] Screencasting in Windows Media File (long)
maybe try camstudio.orgOn 1/16/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:This is not specifically vlog-related, but I need some help and youare all very knowledgeable. I am normally a Mac/iMovie user, so this is all a steep learning curve. Unfortunately, my deadline is tomorrowfor a finished product, so I have to leap the curve ASAP.OK, here are the specs of my assignment:Make a training video using Windows to be put on a DVD. Have screencam video in it (basically, video of my desktop as Iperform various tasks).Here's what I did and what's going wrong:I used Windows Media Encoder to capture the screen. No problems there, though everything ran slowly.I used a custom encoder profile:Screen capture, no audio.Encode to file, no limit.Compression:Video encoding mode:CBRAudience: 1009 KbpsVideo codec:Windows Media Video 9 Video bit rate: 1000 KbpsVideo size: Same as video inputFrame rate: 29.97 fpsKey frame:6 sImage quality:0Buffer size:DefaultNot 2-pass encoding (which WME kept complaining wasn't possible with screencapture)No croppingNo video processing optionsNo pluginsNo securityWhat's going wrong is that I imported these files into Windows MovieMaker and when I preview the clip from the Collection, it's fine. When I preview the clip from the storyboard, it's nearly impossible toview-- the text is fuzzy and bitmappy. A screen shot of the storyboardis available here, but I can't get the collection to screenshotproperly-- it appears to not want to take an accurate screenshot (probably playing video via plugin?):View from the Storyboard:http://www.scottrell.com/personal/images/FromStoryboard.pngSo, the question is: Should I worry about this Collections preview issue? Is it just previewing badly, but will show up fine in the finalrendering?I might add: the generated .avi from these files (I tested it), sofar, has not impressed me-- they appear to be very jumpy. When I import them into Roxio, they appear to smooth out, but I haven'tactually burned the DVD yet to see how well it plays.Help? Suggestions? Tips and tricks? Please don't tell me to useiMovie. I can't take the screencam except on the windows box, and the screencam software saves as WMV.If all else fails, I will bring the Mac laptop tomorrow and try toconvert everything to .mov and use iMovie, but tomorrow's my last dayhere, and I needed these training videos to be done by then. Thanks in advance,--Stephanie--Stephanie Bryant[EMAIL PROTECTED]Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.comAudioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.comYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:45:58 +0100, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would suspect that as more devices come along to allow aggregated internet video content to be displayed on a television then there will be a greater demand for longer videos. No doubt. I have the feeling that public access tv has failed because it requires longer content. That leaves out the regular joe who don't have time to produce a weekly 30 minute show. I only have limited experience with public access of course (a 5 month stay at CTN in Ann Arbor), but it seemed that the 'public' wasn't represented very well. It was mostly representatives from the local churches who videotaped sermons (a very easy way to create a 60 minute show). That why videoblogging - in my opinion - has an advantage over the tv. Shorter forms (ie. shorter than 30 minutes) work better, and thus more people can be involved. before the Internet the only short form films one might see on a regular basis was television commercials. And that's a real waste of a perfectly good format. I always tell people to start watching commercials. You can say a lot about them, but they're really good for figuring out how much you can leave *out* of a video and still have a perfectly coherent story. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:58:16 +0100, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, with Rocketboom videos, you can click on the actual QT video frame to launch the story links in a browser window, when played in a browser. Most people don't know this detail because it's not mentioned anywhere and I haven't been able to come up with a comfortable graphic to add on top of the video to make this apparent. You could use the rocketboom rocket. That signals 'go out to the web' to me. I've seen circles and squares with arrows pointing out of them used on websites as well. You can make the bug hidden until the viewer hovers their mouse over the video, but that'd mean more scripting for you. And the image don't have to be placed over the video of course. It can be a horizontal bar between the video and the controller for example (that option is most likely best solved with SMIL because it's easier to automate, and you don't have to encode a new version of the video). - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blip and Sprint
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:26:23 +0100, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seriously hope blip.tv has a trademark registration-- the name similarity IS causing customer confusion, which is exactly what trademark exists to prevent. I'm certain the blip.tv guys are all over it. However as far as I can tell from the USPTO website both good blip and evil blip have trademark registrations pending. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:37:11 +0100, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note to anybody using MTEnclosures, know how to exclude an enclosure by length? I can't use mime_exclude because they're both technically qt vids. Josh Kinberg hacked MTEnclosures a long time ago into a MTRelEnclosure plugin. That version only made enclosures out of links that had rel=enclosure and nothing else. Seems like it's what you're looking for. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Godaddy question
Thank you for all the input folks! Yes I see the consensus is leaning toward don't "Host" at Godaddy but it's okay for domain. That works for me as I am but a humble cog in a larger wheel and have no desire at this time for hosting services.Thank you to everyone and especially to CyberDad. I suppose I could have just hollered up the stairs at you and asked this question in person but that would indeed have required some form of human interraction but even more frightening it would have required physical activity which all us Cyber-children shun.Thanks ever soLis--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use GoDaddy, but my buddies like Adam and Bill Streeter keep telling me how good Dream Host is and they are, of course, smarter, but I'm lazier and I'm also afraid of the hassle of changing - especially since I'd have to change the ftp stuff in blogger to point to dream host and then the world would explode, I'm sure. However, another good thing about dream host is that you can get wordpress with one click, which is supposed to be infinately better than blogger, but, of course, I'm way too chicken for that - surely the sky would fall if I tried to transfer all my stuff to another type of blogging software - so I will probably stick with my safe little godaddy and blogger snickums and love them and hug them and hope they are always nice. One important thing, though, is that GoDaddy does not host my videos. Those are hosted on blip. GoDaddy just hosts my pages and, in fact, I use blogger and just set it so it points to GoDaddy, as I mentioned above, so, I don't see any problems with video downloads like Adam describes. The GoDaddy support is generally pretty good and I think I recall that Bill said that he thought GoDaddy was a good place to register domains, though I'm not sure why that is necessarily. Of course, I could just go downstairs and tell you all this, since you are my daughter and you are in my house, but that would involve human contact, and I'm a Cyber Dad. Also, others on the list would want to hear my great wisdom, I'm sure. ... Great Wisdom Richard On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use both Godaddy and Dreamhost, and I'll always recommend Dreamhost over Godaddy. I've had a terrible amount of downtime with Godaddy since I began using them for a video site last year. It seems that when a certain amount of people try to download the same video on a Godaddy server, it just automatically shuts down and you have to manually reboot the server. Unacceptable. Go Dreamhost. They just increased their bandwidth allowances to some ridiculously large number too. If you want a code for a deal there, I think "vlogmap" works if I remember correctly. You may want to search the archive of this group for "dreamhost code". AQ On 1/16/06, grasshopperatyourfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone using Godaddy currently and if yeah feedback on how well you like it and what package you got? I'm thinking of doing the domain name yadda yadda stuff and could use some input. If I go with this thing I'll be changing my vlog name and all that good glop too so it all syncs up nicely. I hate feeling Like I've got multiple personality disorder ack. Thanks in advance!! Lis SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=_ypWGVVDWUSpuxYaJQCHhA Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=ZN1ChvogeamDt5UU6pqRYQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=JJpiF0el7XIZm7_UQJThew Explainshttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Explainsw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=UJhUAw_ybLAhU1YhEOb9AA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group "videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging" on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . -- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS- Visit your group "videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging" on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/.-- -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
On Jan 16, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: interesting, since apps like fireANT's main benefit is downloading management which is most valuable if the video is larger (download overnight or while doing other things). if you are a fan of smaller chunks, then you could prob be happy watching videos on the web, no? No. I am a fan of small chunks... but lots of them from lots of different places and the ability to easily switch between them and manipulate them, etc. Viewing video on the web never seems to allow me to interact this way. -Josh Ultimately... and we talked about this in the way back at the beginning of the mRSS (aka. media RSS) initiative... I'd love to see content strung together in RSS so it would play in an order... so it didn't need to be compiled together into one video... so you could have to minutes of video A... and then do a personal seguay with another video clip to introduce the third clip... the probelem is in preserving the integrity of that stream. Lucas Gonze promoted his playlist fromat XSPF or whatever it's called... and that works well for mp3's but there's still a huge problem with two factors. a) XSPF is not supported for aggregation... I know of no way to attach it or enclose it with all the videos it references in RSS so they can all be downloaded and the playlist reconstructed on the client side. b) The XSPF format is best with mp3 because there are just tooo many audio formats... there's just no way to 1) stream video as consistently as mp3 from different sources... 2) play back videos in different formats consistently in any playback tool. Essentually there needs to be a better open markup, a container, for maintaing the integrity and the relationship of videos over aggregation and that tools like fireant that support this container and all the video formats it might contain. Essentially apple's SMIL format is one such container... but it has it has many of the same faults as XSPF. BTW, correct me if I'm misrepresenting the XSPF playlist format, I'm no expert on it. -Mike On 1/16/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. interesting, since apps like fireANT's main benefit is downloading management which is most valuable if the video is larger (download overnight or while doing other things). if you are a fan of smaller chunks, then you could prob be happy watching videos on the web, no? if your point is about attention span... ok. but it seems that adam made the point that this content will continue to be grabbed by a trusted audience who would love nothing more than content to fill their commute. short, long... whatever. its not even worth debating since the wide audience consists of many different preferences. why ask why and all that. sull On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For context, and ease of use for the viewer. But I don't know what's included in the 15 minutes and can't choose whether or not I want to download it or view it in that order I am a fan of smaller chunks. if there is 15 minutes of stuff from a site every day, why would I want to have to navigate to the menu each time I want to watch the next segment? That seems like an iPod issue. I don't have one, but I'm surprised it doesn't skip to the next video track in a playlist? That said, I do want to figure out QT chapters so they can easily skip a segment if they wish. Although I'm not so sure it will function on the iPod. That would be cool if this feature were supported on the iPod. The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. You should at least provide better text descriptions on the site and in the feed. This will make it easier to trust that you are really providing 15 min. of good stuff. Right now, I have no idea what stuff is there until after I've viewed. Text descriptions are too often overlooked by videobloggers. They are really helpful to the viewer deciding if they want to download and also to search engines to help make your content more findable. Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and
[videoblogging] Re: What to buy and use; Editing software / tools / tapes / magazines /
I use both a PC and a Mac to do my editing. It all depends on what system I sit down to at any given time. On my PC, for editing, I use Adobe Premiere Pro. After I have done all my editing, I save the movie as an uncompressed AVI then encode it to an 320x240 H.264 MOV file using Quicktime Pro. As for other editors, I've probably tried them all. Vegas is very, very good. Adobe Premiere Elements is very good (only about $100). Ulead MediaStudio and VisualStudio are good. Pinnacle is absolute crap. Version 10 is worse than crap. Stay away from Pinnacle if you want to keep your money and your sanity. As a side note. Windows MovieMaker will have a new version when Windows Vista is released. All the functions (transitions, special effects, fonts, etc) that you are looking for can pretty much be found in almost all NLE's these days. Tapes. I use a tape only once and then pop in a new one when it's full. I mostly do that for archival purposes. Software Utilities. None. Premiere Pro and Quicktime Pro do everything I need or want them to do. Video magazines. I have a subscription to DV Magazine. Good toilet reading material :) Hope that helped. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm one of the few PC users out here, and I use Roxio. If you can still find Roxio 7, it supports 3ivx, which allows you to make mp4's in one fell swoop. (Currently Roxio 8 does not support mp4 output). Personally, I can't stand Pinnacle. I don't have the latest version, but the older version I had crashed constantly, and took forever to encode. Read lots of online reviews. I have always heard that you should only use a tape one time... but then again, I don't have a tape camcorder (mine saves to memory stick)... others might chime in on this one. Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, usadutch2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you are all eager to answer some newbie questions? Yes I know they (newbies) keep coming over and over again and ask the same old stupid questions. But hey if you do not ask you never know what others think about it. Well here it goes; The ingredients so far -Bought a digital videocam , Panasonic PV-GS150 3ccd minidv , http://tinyurl.com/7v93n (also spare battery, UV filter, mono-pod, tapes and a 3W light no microfoon yet) -I'm building a website using WordPress http://vlogmatic.com -Have content in my head and its around everywhere. -I read the discussions about duration and publishing of video and all the artistic issues with vlogs. -Have a fast PC with windows XP sp2 and cable internet. Then I got stuck on a few technical questions; 1. What the heck should I use to edit the video's with? I have the free windows XP moviemaker but it is too limited for my desire. I know you can buy all sorts of add-ons but I believe there is no development for moviemaker anymore. However spending over $200 for editing software is not in the budget. What is the next best alternative? (Functions I like/need ; transitions, different fonts, use of green-screen, audio editing, adding sounds and clips) I have not yet decided on the publishing format. Is Vegas movie studio + dvd platinum a good choice? Or Pineaccle Studio media suite 10 ? 2. What are the must have software utility's and/or gadgets? you use on a regular basis? 3. How many times can I use a tape? (Consider it being a good quality tape) 4. Do you subscribe to any video magazines? Ok for now these are my questions and I would appreciate any answers very much. Anything else i did not mention would be important to think of? (yup a catch all question) Blips aka Klaas Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Godaddy question
On 1/16/06, grasshopperatyourfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you to everyone and especially to CyberDad. I suppose I could have just hollered up the stairs at you and asked this question in person but that would indeed have required some form of human interraction but even more frightening it would have required physical activity which all us Cyber-children shun. You two sound like my son and I, we use IM clients to talk to each other from either side of a wall...nice parenting eh? Thanks ever so Lis --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use GoDaddy, but my buddies like Adam and Bill Streeter keep telling me how good Dream Host is and they are, of course, smarter, but I'm lazier and I'm also afraid of the hassle of changing - especially since I'd have to change the ftp stuff in blogger to point to dream host and then the world would explode, I'm sure. However, another good thing about dream host is that you can get wordpress with one click, which is supposed to be infinately better than blogger, but, of course, I'm way too chicken for that - surely the sky would fall if I tried to transfer all my stuff to another type of blogging software - so I will probably stick with my safe little godaddy and blogger snickums and love them and hug them and hope they are always nice. One important thing, though, is that GoDaddy does not host my videos. Those are hosted on blip. GoDaddy just hosts my pages and, in fact, I use blogger and just set it so it points to GoDaddy, as I mentioned above, so, I don't see any problems with video downloads like Adam describes. The GoDaddy support is generally pretty good and I think I recall that Bill said that he thought GoDaddy was a good place to register domains, though I'm not sure why that is necessarily. Of course, I could just go downstairs and tell you all this, since you are my daughter and you are in my house, but that would involve human contact, and I'm a Cyber Dad. Also, others on the list would want to hear my great wisdom, I'm sure. ... Great Wisdom Richard On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use both Godaddy and Dreamhost, and I'll always recommend Dreamhost over Godaddy. I've had a terrible amount of downtime with Godaddy since I began using them for a video site last year. It seems that when a certain amount of people try to download the same video on a Godaddy server, it just automatically shuts down and you have to manually reboot the server. Unacceptable. Go Dreamhost. They just increased their bandwidth allowances to some ridiculously large number too. If you want a code for a deal there, I think vlogmap works if I remember correctly. You may want to search the archive of this group for dreamhost code. AQ On 1/16/06, grasshopperatyourfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone using Godaddy currently and if yeah feedback on how well you like it and what package you got? I'm thinking of doing the domain name yadda yadda stuff and could use some input. If I go with this thing I'll be changing my vlog name and all that good glop too so it all syncs up nicely. I hate feeling Like I've got multiple personality disorder ack. Thanks in advance!! Lis SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=_ypWGVVDWUSpuxYaJQCHhA Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=ZN1ChvogeamDt5UU6pqRYQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=JJpiF0el7XIZm7_UQJThew Explainshttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Explainsw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=UJhUAw_ybLAhU1YhEOb9AA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . -- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
Well said Bev.I'd also like to add that Raymond makes these tiny little video clips that last between 2 and 30 second. It is what it is... and I think everything has a validity. Though we should feel free to explore use case scenarios for these different lenght media let's try to set our personal bias a side. Everyone's opinion and everyone's choice of video lenght are equally as valid.-MikeOn Jan 16, 2006, at 2:12 PM, BevSykes wrote:short, long... whatever. its not even worth debating since the wide audience consists of many different preferences. why ask why and all that. Glad to hear you say that. My own feeling is that if it's done well, it will hold my attention no matter how long. Deirdre Straughan had one the other day that was a car trip to Dallas, the sort of thing that would usually turn me off very soon (how interesting can Texas highways be, anyway??), but it was so cleverly done, with great background music that I enjoyed the whole thing. Minnesota Stories generally last longer than a few minutes and are delightful. Bicycle Sidewalk is generally fun to watch, as are Ravi's Drive Time interviews -- and I can't figure out why I'm so taken with Carl Weaver's dry, offbeat humor By the same token, there are some very brief "artsy fartsy" kinds of videos that don't do a thing for me, though when they are clever I can be impressed. Like Sull, I think it's all a matter of taste and everybody's tastes are different. I prefer something that shows me something I haven't seen before or presents something familiar in a new light. I also like videos that give me a glimpse into someone's life, like Susan's KityKity, or Doug's glimpse into his world in Providence, RI or Missbhavens life in New York. -- BevBlog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal: http://funnytheworld.comYAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The PAN!
On Jan 16, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Nick wrote: I think I am more of a fan of picking out my own content. That is the beauty of video on the web...the options. If I wanted someone else picking out what was cool for me to watch I could just turn on TV? No? as is your right Nick... but in a world of infinite and abundant content... someone always does the picking... there are in fact infinite forms of packaging and filtering content... and it's unrealistic to think we'll always get it directly from our favorite vloggers mouth... though I think that's a strong part of the puzzle. Increasinly I think we'll rely on our friends and the communities we participate to be our filters... and who knows how they'll recontextualize and repackage content. I think we'll use traditional top down editorial methods as are used in news rooms and cable stations less and less getting more information through our communities... Call it the global village or whatever you like but there's a whole new economy based on how communications are accessed and used. It's no longer completely in the hands of the few... This is why publishers are suing google.. and record labels refuse to put content on line... they don't want to give up their lucrative marketing and distribution systems... they're afraid to give up some control... but increasingly it'll be US and our communities that make sense out of the world... no longer executives in board rooms or advertisers and marketers figuring out what we want based on how we spend our money... but US based on what we talk about and share. And as I'm fond of saying once everyone get's over that hurdle of giving up some controll we're all going to benifit societally and economicly tremendously... on all levels... not just down here in the trenches... the long tail so too speak... but even the big media companies. Indeed this swing is already happening in news media as newspapers realize that bloggers are not the enemy but are in fact offer a HUGE economic benifit to their business. To come full circle I tend to really like just that The Pan is packaging content in a really unique way... intermediating it differently... well also that it's really unique content... but the packaging is cool too. -Mike mmeiser.com/blog evilvlog.com mefeedia.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so they won't need them as separate chunks. You should at least provide better text descriptions on the site and in the feed. This will make it easier to trust that you are really providing 15 min. of good stuff. Right now, I have no idea what stuff is there until after I've viewed. Text descriptions are too often overlooked by videobloggers. They are really helpful to the viewer deciding if they want to download and also to search engines to help make your content more findable. I agree with most of this. If it proves to be true that viewers won't watch a video until they've read something about it, we'll probably have to rethink our presentation. Although Rocketboom, Bottomunion, Human- Dog, etc. haven't seemed to have had a problem with a lack of text. We provide a list of the individual creators featured in the video, with links, so that's enough to get you started. But like I said, time will tell... Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or go home at night, restart it right where you left off. I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. Right, totally. It just so happens that this 15 minutes is a video doppelganger of what's going on inside my head a lot of the time, so it's a blast for me to watch it, and I usually want it to run longer when I see it. It's an interesting combination of content. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Screencasting in Windows Media File (long)
The non-pay version has a watermark, and I can't wait for IT to jump through the paperwork hoops to buy a license. Besides which, I'm not sure that would solve the problem with Windows Movie Maker, which is what's showing the preview at such a bitmappy display. --Stephanie On 1/16/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe try camstudio.org-- Stephanie Bryant[EMAIL PROTECTED]Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.comAudioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Godaddy question
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You two sound like my son and I, we use IM clients to talk to eachother from either side of a wall...nice parenting eh?... I find that if you use the proper emoticons, :) {:/ ... it's a perfect substitute for actual human interaction ...
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Re: [videoblogging] Godaddy question
Have you heard anything about midphase with regard to their hosting package? They said they have unmetered bandwidth...what exactly does that mean?Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use GoDaddy, but my buddies like Adam and Bill Streeter keep telling me how good Dream Host is and they are, of course, smarter, but I'm lazier and I'm also afraid of the hassle of changing - especially since I'd have to change the ftp stuff in blogger to point to dream host and then the world would explode, I'm sure. However, another good thing about dream host is that you can get wordpress with one click, which is supposed to be infinately better than blogger, but, of course, I'm way too chicken for that - surely the sky would fall if I tried to transfer all my stuff to another type of blogging software - so I will probably stick with my safe little godaddy and blogger snickums and love them and hug them and hope they are always nice. One important thing, though, is that GoDaddy does not host my videos. Those are hosted on blip. GoDaddy just hosts my pages and, in fact, I use blogger and just set it so it points to GoDaddy, as I mentioned above, so, I don't see any problems with video downloads like Adam describes. The GoDaddy support is generally pretty good and I think I recall that Bill said that he thought GoDaddy was a good place to register domains, though I'm not sure why that is necessarily.Of course, I could just go downstairs and tell you all this, since you are my daughter and you are in my house, but that would involve human contact, and I'm a Cyber Dad. Also, others on the list would want to hear my great wisdom, I'm sure. ... Great Wisdom Richard On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use both Godaddy and Dreamhost, and I'll always recommend Dreamhost over Godaddy. I've had a terrible amount of downtime with Godaddy since I began using them for a video site last year. It seems that when a certain amount of people try to download the same video on a Godaddy server, it just automatically shuts down and you have to manually reboot the server. Unacceptable.Go Dreamhost. They just increased their bandwidth allowances to some ridiculously large number too.If you want a code for a deal there, I think "vlogmap" works if I remember correctly. You may want to search the archive of this group for "dreamhost code".AQ On 1/16/06, grasshopperatyourfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone using Godaddy currently and if yeah feedback on how well you like it and what package you got? I'm thinking of doing the domain name yadda yadda stuff and could use some input. If I go with this thing I'll be changing my vlog name and all that good glop too so it all syncs up nicely. I hate feeling Like I've got multiple personality disorder ack.Thanks in advance!!Lis SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service .YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Godaddy question
Sad isn't it? I IM my fiance who is sitting 10 feet away in the same room. Nevermind talking, its too hard. On 1/17/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/16/06, grasshopperatyourfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you to everyone and especially to CyberDad. I suppose I could have just hollered up the stairs at you and asked this question in person but that would indeed have required some form of human interraction but even more frightening it would have required physical activity which all us Cyber-children shun.You two sound like my son and I, we use IM clients to talk to each other from either side of a wall...nice parenting eh? Thanks ever so Lis --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use GoDaddy, but my buddies like Adam and Bill Streeter keep telling me how good Dream Host is and they are, of course, smarter, but I'm lazier and I'm also afraid of the hassle of changing - especially since I'd have to change the ftp stuff in blogger to point to dream host and then the world would explode, I'm sure. However, another good thing about dream host is that you can get wordpress with one click, which is supposed to be infinately better than blogger, but, of course, I'm way too chicken for that - surely the sky would fall if I tried to transfer all my stuff to another type of blogging software - so I will probably stick with my safe little godaddy and blogger snickums and love them and hug them and hope they are always nice. One important thing, though, is that GoDaddy does not host my videos. Those are hosted on blip. GoDaddy just hosts my pages and, in fact, I use blogger and just set it so it points to GoDaddy, as I mentioned above, so, I don't see any problems with video downloads like Adam describes. The GoDaddy support is generally pretty good and I think I recall that Bill said that he thought GoDaddy was a good place to register domains, though I'm not sure why that is necessarily. Of course, I could just go downstairs and tell you all this, since you are my daughter and you are in my house, but that would involve human contact, and I'm a Cyber Dad. Also, others on the list would want to hear my great wisdom, I'm sure. ... Great Wisdom Richard On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... wrote: I use both Godaddy and Dreamhost, and I'll always recommend Dreamhost over Godaddy. I've had a terrible amount of downtime with Godaddy since I began using them for a video site last year. It seems that when a certain amount of people try to download the same video on a Godaddy server, it just automatically shuts down and you have to manually reboot the server. Unacceptable. Go Dreamhost. They just increased their bandwidth allowances to some ridiculously large number too. If you want a code for a deal there, I think vlogmap works if I remember correctly. You may want to search the archive of this group for dreamhost code. AQ On 1/16/06, grasshopperatyourfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone using Godaddy currently and if yeah feedback on how well youlike it and what package you got? I'm thinking of doing the domain name yadda yadda stuff and could use some input. If I go with thisthing I'll be changing my vlog name and all that good glop too so itall syncs up nicely. I hate feeling Like I've got multiple personality disorder ack. Thanks in advance!! Lis SPONSORED LINKSIndividual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=_ypWGVVDWUSpuxYaJQCHhAFireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=ZN1ChvogeamDt5UU6pqRYQUse http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=JJpiF0el7XIZm7_UQJThewExplains http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Explainsw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=UJhUAw_ybLAhU1YhEOb9AA-- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] @yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms ofService http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . -- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] @yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group
Re: [videoblogging] Re: The PAN!
The pan is the next version of the original MTV... :)Only instead of stringing together music videos they got for free the pan is sringing together viral and independant media.Just like mtv this works because The Pan is giving these artist promotion it's the same model... just a different medium... a different market and a different generation... and I think it's a bautiful thing because it allows us to draw tremendous parrallels between MTV "revolution in Cable TV" and our revolution in internet based media. I really hope the pan succeds tremendously if only because I want to keep following the evolution and enjoying the simple parrels and differences between these two so called revolutions in distributing media.BTW, if you're interested in MTV's story you should wikipedia it... and while you're at it... perhaps more so you should wikipedia Ted Turner and the CNN story... he very much predated MTV and infact MTV more or less coppied his architecture... of course by the time MTV came around everyone was copying CNN's architecture... ...that architecture btw, was to take a single niche... in CNN's case news... and make it global... and make it 24x7 around the clock... it was a radical idea in it's time... because everyone knew the news was supposed to be a one hour thing at 5'oclock and 11 o'clock... who in the world would watch news 24x7? and yet the pervasiveness of CNN showed that you could recycle and regurgetate and recontextualize the news over and over for 24 hours and people would tune in because they new at any point the could tune in and they'd catch the top issues of the moment..and now Tivo has come along... and proposed something different... but Tivo is not the end all be all... the CNN's and MTV's of this generation are still out there lurking waiting to be discovered... Current TV many thought might have a stab at this... but as many have pointed out they simply BLEW it big time the're just the same old media in the new clothing indeed architecturally they throw a bone to participation... Personally... and I know my opinion means nothing to what time will teach us... but I think the MTV of tomorrow is the idea of the Personal Feed... the idea that you can create a channel that's completely YOURS... your media... and that you can interact with that personal channel in any and every way possible... that it's going to be pervasive in time and space... watchable not just at any time of the day, not just on demand... bit anywhere you want it... in front of the TV... while on the subway on your ipod or PSP... perhaps on your Nokia770 or cell phone... wherever you want that constantly updating channels of information you'll have it... and this may on one level sound absurd but then it's already true... we're ALL... all our videos are going to make up that channel... call it channel internet or some B.S but it's not going to be channel CNN... or channel MTV or whatever the end user is going to take ownership over that channel... and all media makers will be able to do is make media ... not craft the channel... not decide what to put in front of you... and what ads... they'll get to make their shows and decide how to make them "available" and we'll decide how we want to access them and when. This is a huge shift in the world of media... from a world of couch potatoes from a world where people will reach through the network and east from an infinite bufette of media. And once again this may be my personal B.S. but the services and tools that are most in line with that vision will be the ones that succeed best.I could go on four hours about google video vs. iTunes video vs. yahoo's plans... all of them want to bring big media to the internet... but really it's the one who's most "open" that will win... period.. the one who allows the most media makers to enter the marketplace and the one accessible by the most consumers... and all matter of interaction inbetween. Mark my words... either by the end of 2006 or the end of 2007 Apple's glorious closed platform will either become the coffin in which they soffocate or they'll have to dismantel it and open it up to everyone... this does NOT mean they'll loose money... but it does mean they'll loose marketshare... just like they did in the Windows/mac showdow in the 80's. The most open platform will win.My money though the start is humble is on googlebtw ebay.com... same damn story... they opened the markets to everyone... turned every buyer into a seller, and look at them now buying Skype for $4 billion... crazy bastards.Peace,-MikeOn Jan 16, 2006, at 4:00 PM, Adam Quirk wrote: On 1/16/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I am more of a fan of picking out my own content. That is the beauty of video on the web...the options. If I wanted someone else picking out what was cool for me to watch I could just turn on TV? No?This is very true. If what you wanted to watch existed on the TV, then that
Re: [videoblogging] The PAN!
Well here's the two feeds.iPod: http://mefeedia.com/feeds/4233/PSP: http://mefeedia.com/feeds/4217/There's most definitely things to be fixed on both sides... mefeedia is probably hanging on the double enclosure and The Pan needs to remove the image enclosure can't waut to be watching yumme viral media porn on my video ipod... probably the best place to watch it. :)-MikeOn Jan 16, 2006, at 4:47 PM, Devlon wrote: I tried adding it earlier and noticed the two enclosure tags. I wouldn't think the system would exclude it for that, but I'll look at the code tonight.On 1/16/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, well it's only supposed to have one video in it, since today's the 1st day. But I wonder why it's not showing up in Mefeedia?The gaddammed Effing movable type plugin is making an enclosure out of our poster frame, which has been baffling me for several weeks now. But I don't think Mefeedia would reject a feed due to multiple enclosures. iTunes just takes the correct one (somehow). The itunes feed is: http://thepan.org/ipod.xmlNote to anybody using MTEnclosures, know how to exclude an enclosure by length? I can't use mime_exclude because they're both technically qt vids.I posted at the MT message board to no avail.Maybe I need to email Brandon Fuller directlyAQ On 1/16/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an FYI... that PSP feed I think needs a little work.http://thepan.org/psp.xml I plugged it into mefeedia and got no videos. Looked at the feed and it only has one video in it. http://mefeedia.com/feeds/4217/Is this the exact same feed used in itunes?I'm not quite ready to click on that link and dig the url out of itunes interface... rat itunes bastards. :) -MikeOn Jan 16, 2006, at 3:31 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: Note to you FireANT users, if you want to subscribe just use the PSP feed. It has the same QT videos as the iTunes feed.I'd also like to say...woo...and whew.-AQ Thank you,Mica, Adam, and the PAN team Meet our contributors – http://thepan.org/contributors/ Visit The PAN – http://thepan.org / SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging " on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service .YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~DevlonBlog: http://devlond.blogspot.comVlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Screencasting in Windows Media File (long)
Stephanie Bryant schrieb: The non-pay version has a watermark, and I can't wait for IT to jump through the paperwork hoops to buy a license. Hello Stephanie, Try this great freeware WINK: http://www.debugmode.com/wink/ I suggest you read also the tutorial on that site. You can achieve good results and rather quickly, it is as intuitive as RoboDemo. (I don't know how intuitive Camtasia is.) Only be careful with the number of the frames per file (if I remember right, each file should not have more than 20 frames. But the (expensive) screencast software has such file limitations, too ... HTH Martina Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Godaddy question
I'm glad you asked this question. I'm shopping around for a domain registrar too. Does anyone have any experience with Yahoo? I see they're advertizing $2.99/year for domain registrations. That's such a good price there must be a catch. Do any of you bother with Private Domain Registration? Or do you use a P.O. Box, or is it even worrying about.-- http://walkingonairvideo.blogspot.com/ http://www.speakeasy.org/~endico/maps/usgs.html SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
