[videoblogging] YouTube Smacks Down AskANinja.com

2006-02-22 Thread digitalfilmmaker



Crossposted at: http://askaninja.blogspot.com/2006/02/youtube-smacks-down-ninja.htmlLast week YouTube.com got the smack down from NBC for hosting the Lazy Sunday sketch from SNL.
Today AskANinja.com got these emails from YouTube:Your video Ask A Ninja: Question 10 Ninja Metal has been rejected due to its inappropriate nature. Please refer to our 
terms and conditions for more information on what video material is not permitted on YouTube.Followed by:
Dear Subscriber:This is to notify you that we have removed or disabled access to on or
more of your videos as a result of a third-party notification claimingthat this material is infringing.If you elect to send us a counter notice, to be effective it must be awritten communication provided to our designated agent that includes
substantially the following (please consult your legal counsel or see 17U.S.C. Section 512(g)(3) to confirm these requirements):(A) A physical or electronic signature of the subscriber.(B) Identification of the material that has been removed or to which
access has been disabled and the location at which the material appearedbefore it was removed or access to it was disabled.(C) A statement under penalty of perjury that the subscriber has a goodfaith belief that the material was removed or disabled as a result of
mistake or misidentification of the material to be removed or disabled.(D) The subscriberÂ's name, address, and telephone number, and astatement that the subscriber consents to the jurisdiction of Federal
District Court for the judicial district in which the address islocated, or if the subscriberÂ's address is outside of the United States,for any judicial district in which the service provider may be found,and that the subscriber will accept service of process from the person
who provided notification under subsection (c)(1)(C) or an agent of suchperson.Such written notice should be sent to our designated agent as follows:Copyright AgentYouTube, Inc.PO Box 2053
San Mateo, CA 94401Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Please note that under Section 512(f) of the Copyright Act, any personwho knowingly materially misrepresents that material or activity was
removed or disabled by mistake or misidentification may be subject toliability. Please also be advised that we enforce a policy thatprovides for the termination in appropriate circumstances of subscribers
who are repeat infringers.Very truly yours,HeatherYouTube, IncA couple of things, we are the creators of the Ask A Ninja, we were (and still are) using their site to host the Flash Video versions of our work. It's odd that we can just be arbitrarily cut off from our audience of over 280,000 viewers on the 
YouTube.com site.Not to worry, we're already in the works on building a site to host our own Flash files, but if the content creators can't post their files at YouTube, and copyright violators can't either, who 
is going to be allowed to post their videos?-Kent





  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] YouTube Smacks Down AskANinja.com

2006-02-22 Thread Deirdre Straughan



I'm confused. What are they saying is inappropriate about the piece? (I haven't seen it.)-- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)
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Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Media Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Caution Zero
--- Richard BF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm especially interested in the new members'
 opinions, as they 
 probably haven't had a lot of the citizen media,
 fuck big media 
 rhetoric we used to go on about  here a year ago,
 but now tend to no 
 longer bother about.

i guess you asked for it, and i'm new enough, so. :)

i didn't catch on until recently that many members of
this list defined videoblogging as inherently
personal... livejournal via video, as it were.  i
don't have a problem with that as an aspect of
videoblogging.  i just also thought non-diary art was
quite significantly a part of what you seem to be
pointing at when you say 'citizen media, fuck big
media'.  i think the idea that only large networks can
push out episodic video storytelling, for instance, is
ripe for destruction, and a videoblog seems to be a
great way to distribute an antidote.  it seems like
that kind of storytelling could / should coexist
pretty easily alongside 'here is what i am thinking
right now' when it comes to what styles / genres
videoblogging should encompass or describe as a term. 


-scotto

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[videoblogging] Embed wmp video issues

2006-02-22 Thread Kelley
If I don't get the tech lingo right, just bear with me, I am a social 
worker that just does this in my free time.

I am new to this whole thing and would love some input on the best way 
to post videos to my blog.  I have tried a few options and it seems 
like embedding the videos is the way to go.  I have read that a lot of 
people think you should link it to another page rather than have it 
play on the page itself.

I have figured out how to embed it them to my page, but then there is 
no preview pic.  Should I even be trying to embed them on my page?

I have only done that to one of my videos and am looking for feedback 
before I do more.  I just dont like how my videos open currently.

I have found one site that creates a video code for you, but the code 
for the embedded video with a pic doesnt work. The site is: 
http://freevideocoding.com/  Does that site usually work?  I hope so 
because I suck at HTML.

I hope I am making a little sense... my brain is mush from searching 
for answers online all evening.

Thanks... Kelley

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Re: [videoblogging] Embed wmp video issues

2006-02-22 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Try this:

http://embedthevideo.com

-Josh


On 2/22/06, Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I don't get the tech lingo right, just bear with me, I am a social
 worker that just does this in my free time.

 I am new to this whole thing and would love some input on the best way
 to post videos to my blog.  I have tried a few options and it seems
 like embedding the videos is the way to go.  I have read that a lot of
 people think you should link it to another page rather than have it
 play on the page itself.

 I have figured out how to embed it them to my page, but then there is
 no preview pic.  Should I even be trying to embed them on my page?

 I have only done that to one of my videos and am looking for feedback
 before I do more.  I just dont like how my videos open currently.

 I have found one site that creates a video code for you, but the code
 for the embedded video with a pic doesnt work. The site is:
 http://freevideocoding.com/  Does that site usually work?  I hope so
 because I suck at HTML.

 I hope I am making a little sense... my brain is mush from searching
 for answers online all evening.

 Thanks... Kelley

 http://kelleyinthecity.blogspot.com/






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[videoblogging] invite

2006-02-22 Thread Adrian Miles
hi all

RMIT Video and Podcasting Interest Group

Any staff interested in developing a Video and Audio blogging/casting 
interest group are invited to attend a meeting at 10am on Tuesday, 
March 7. The interest group is to discuss and develop projects, 
ideas, teaching and research possibilities around rich media blogs 
within RMIT.

Please contact Adrian Miles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you would 
like to attend and/or participate.

when: Tuesday March 7.
at: 10am
where: 4.5.1 Labsome honours studio

while it is called RMIT if you're in Melbourne and interested, let me 
know. if you can't make that time, please also let me know.
-- 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:10:32 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Of the first ten videos, only one is clearly copyrighted with a second
 one probable.  The rest are original, amateur works to share with
 friends and others with similar intrests.

What are you trying to say? All those videos are covered by copyright -  
doesn't matter if you make it for friends or MTV.

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[videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread davecircumnavigator
Here's the scenario: I've finished shooting material for tomorrow's 
vlog, but I haven't edited it.  It's dinner time.  It's so much 
easier to let American Idol wash over me while I eat than to seek 
out new material on the Internet because I'm not well set up for the 
latter, while I've got a TV in my kitchen where I dine and I just 
want to plotz and relax and not do anything for a few minutes.  Okay, 
a few minutes turns into a few too many and then into a half-hour, 
but I want to just sit and digest and drink my coffee before I get up 
to edit and Idol will be over in fifteen minutes at this point which 
serves as a sort of milepost that I can use to hoist myself back into 
action at the computer for editing.  It doesn't matter that Idol is 
in its 5th year and the format is stale and the forced relationships 
between the superficial characters is hackneyed.  It's on when I sit 
down and nothing else better is on and 4 of the women sing pretty 
damn well anyway.  So what if Ryan Seacrest has the charm of an organ 
grinder's monkey; it's on.  So I suffer a stultifying program that 
anesthetizes me a little more every time I passively consume it and 
diminishes my artistic and social vigor bit by bit.  I do this 
because of conditioning, because I'm accustomed to it, because it's 
easier than alternatives and because I'm not interested in watching 
Internet footage of teenagers skateboarding.  I'm not interested in 
watching adults skateboard either, by the way.  I don't find watching 
skateboarding interesting.  And, anyway, I'm not well set up to watch 
Internet video while I sit and eat.  So that's part of what anyone 
producing video for the Ineternet (whether it's art, comedy, news, 
etc), is fighting.  Meanwhile, check the time stamp on this post.  I 
just finished writing tomorrow's show.  And the most viewed show on 
Ifilm is of two adolescent girls kissing.  Well at least they're not 
skateboarding while they kiss.

-David
A man alone.  Around the world.
The smallest boat.  A world record.

www.capatainhumphreys.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r
 robert.videoblogging@ wrote:
 
  I completely agree with Josh, re-posting the intellectual 
property of 
  others is wrong.
  
 
 It is.  But most of the postings are personal moments that mean 
things
 to a those of similar interests.  Looking right now at lastest posts
 on YouTube I find:  
 
 The Worm - a kid squirming like a worm in tha back of a 
classroom. 
 Hilarious to those who are friends and were there.
 
 Summit View Documentary a kid skateboarding with proprietary 
music.
  While the music shouldn't be used, it's a practice that's been
 happening in some popular videoblogs.
 
 Love two girls and a guy driving in a car, listening to music 
while
 he holds the camera out in front of them from the back seat.  
They're
 having fun and grooving.
 
 iam only one a rap music video.  It's roughly made, but could very
 likely be copyrighted material taken from an artist.
 
 ii SED WAZZ GOOD is two girls playing at hip hop recorded on
 probably a camera phone -- amateur and high spiritied.
 
 Mammoth Feb 06 two skiers going down a slope.
 
 Big 4 is a skateboarder going over some steps.
 
 chueco vs cali el cuarto is a soccer game that sounds like it's in
 Spanish language recorded off TV -- copyrighted material.
 
 Me in Pump It Up Dancing, Tashannie - Don't Bother Me is a kid
 recording himself playing a dance videogame with some speed and 
precision.
 
 sk8allDay has titling, with music by Queen and the camera 
following
 a skater try different challenges.  He describes what he's trying to
 do.  Slow motion is used to emphasize sections.  A crowd reacts as 
he
 keeps trying and failing.  It ends with the camera coming up to the
 upside down skateboard on another failure which he picks up and goes
 to try again.
 
 Of the first ten videos, only one is clearly copyrighted with a 
second
 one probable.  The rest are original, amateur works to share with
 friends and others with similar intrests.  
 
   -- Enric
   -==-
   http://www.cirne.com
 
  BTW, wasn't this a great video moment?
  
  http://www.apollopony.net/2006/02/frank_zappa_on.html
  
  
  
  
  
  On Feb 21, 2006, at 11:56 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote:
  
   I agree with this... yet I also think there are some cases where
   bubbling up is important.
  
   But you are correct that bubbling up doesn't satisfy the 
needs of
   the individual and their immediate social circle. It doesn't 
help
   people share their lives through video. I feel this aspect is 
being
   lost we need more good examples. Maybe that has to do with 
my own
   aesthetic concerns though. I feel like some of that spirit is 
being
   lost amidst the wave of lipsyncing teens and plaigarized video.
  
   -Josh
  
  
   On 2/21/06, Peter Van Dijck petervandijck@ wrote:
  
  
   On 2/21/06, Michael Sullivan sulleleven@ 

Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Media Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Ronen



Richard-- I don't think the Four Eyed Monster videopodcast is merely a promotional tool. If there were no film, the vlog would be just as good (possibly better). It is its own art.
Re: LJMany people use livejournal for fiction, and they're nothing wrong with that. Blogging is the 
tool.That said, I don't think we (we being the videoblogging group) need to re-open this discussion... People can feel free to re-read the many times it's been discussed--- I doubt anything new will be said.






  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread teleblogo
Uhm, I'm new at videoblogging, but I think FEM is very well done and
interestign, but  even if they've got a blog and so on... it's so
traditional and old media.


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Check out what they are doing over at MySpace:
 
http://www.myspace.com/foureyedmonsters
 
 They've got a blog, plus all the added features of MySpace which are 
 allowing them to build a community.
 
 They are listed under MySpace Film which is kinda like being listed 
 under MySpace Music, but in this case it looks like they get a sweet 
 videoplayer.
 
 On Feb 21, 2006, at 6:19 PM, Richard BF wrote:
 
  I think they need to take a step back and embrace
  the new media a bit better, instead of using the online medium
  essentially to promote an offline product.
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:10:32 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Of the first ten videos, only one is clearly copyrighted with a second
  one probable.  The rest are original, amateur works to share with
  friends and others with similar intrests.
 
 What are you trying to say? All those videos are covered by
copyright -  
 doesn't matter if you make it for friends or MTV.
 
 - Andreas
 -- 
 URL:http://www.solitude.dk/
 Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology.


How are they all covered by copyright if some of them are completely
original works?  Do you mean by the person who made the video?  I was
showing that most YouTube videos, though rough, are not straight
copies of broadcast media like the SNL clips, commercials, sports
events, music video clips, etc.  Most of them are rough, personal
works intended for friends and people with similar interests.  I think
if YouTube is successful, it should be understood why.

  -- Enric
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Steve Garfield
Hi JV,

I just scheduled them for the next Node101/Boston Media Makers Meeting 
on March 5th.

Arin Crumley and Susan Buice of the film Four Eyed Monsters, 
http://www.foureyedmonsters.com/ , are going to come and talk about 
making better videos.  They are also going to talk about their 
experiences with MySpace.

Arin and Susan are also interested having a conversation with us about 
where we think this is all going.

http://www.feevlog.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17


On Feb 21, 2006, at 9:33 PM, JV wrote:

 Steve, you should get in touch with them. I think they are up in your
 neck of the woods now ( at susan's parent's house). Maybe an interview
 about what myspace film means and whether they see their podcasts as
 primarily promotion for their offline product or if they see it in a
 different light. They are really nice and well spoken, if a little
 busy at times.

--Steve
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Re: [videoblogging] Get Democracy: free and open-source internet TV

2006-02-22 Thread Deirdre Straughan



Having some trouble with this. Let me put on my bitchy hat...When I try to submit my RSS feed as a new channel, clicking the Submit a New Channel button (green) just keeps reloading the same page.I find it a bit questionable that your toolbar seems to be copied from iTunes. This does not inspire confidence. Get your own graphics!
As to installing Broadcast Machine, I tried to do this months ago on my old webhost, and they wouldn't let me - probably didn't like the idea of me putting some script they'd never heard of on their servers (and who can blame them?).
Your instructions now say:Installing Broadcast Machine


Download Broadcast Machine and open the zip file.Copy the folder bm to the public_html directory on your website.Point your browser to 
www.yourwebsite.com/bmIf you see a login screen, you're ready to go.  Just create your first account.I know a little about managing my site via DreamHost (my new provider), but this seems to be aimed at users more expert than myself - I can't find any directory labeled public_html. 
So... not quite as easy as it needs to be if you want this to be truly broad-based and democratic.On 2/22/06, cooperwef 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi VideoBloggers,Tiffiniy with Participatory Culture here. Big news, good news: we've just released the beta
version for Windows of our flagship video player (formerly known as DTV)!We're also announcing a new name for this free and open-source internet TV platform:Democracy. It's perfect for videobloggers and independent publishers -- covers everything
from publishing videos, to watching them in fullscreen, to sharing them over the net.You can download the Democracy player for Windows right now, free of charge as always,on our new community website:
http://www.getdemocracy.com/Mac users: you can grab an updated version 0.8 of Democracy for Mac on GetDemocracyas well. There's a version for Linux users also, so Democracy is now officially cross-platform.
On GetDemocracy.com, you'll find lots of new materials: case studies of how the platformflows together, buttons for you to post on your website to help promote open internet TV,testimonials from actual internet users, help documentation, user forums, and more.
Tthere's an opportunity for all of us to build a new, open mass medium of onlinetelevision. We're developing the Democracy internet TV platform so that watching internetvideo channels will be as easy as watching TV and broadcasting a channel will be open to
everyone, and unlike traditional TV, everyone will have a voice.The Democracy platform encompasses four open-source and open-standards tools we'vereleased over the past year:1. Democracy player. Now available in beta for Windows, Mac, and Linux. New features
include built-in video search— just type your search terms into Democracy and see whatthere is to watch out there on the web. Also, Videobomb integaration—you can nowbomb videos you like from within Democracy player, linking up with the 
Videobomb.comwebsite. It's all coming together.2. Democracy Channel Guide. Recently re-designed, a welcoming home base for internetTV. Now features over 300 channels (yes!!!) of fascinating internet video with more being
added every day. Please feel free to submit your channel (an RSS feed with videos) bygoing here, it's entirely free:https://channelguide.participatoryculture.org/?q=submitchannel
3. Broadcast Machine. Free video publishing software. Provides instant video capacity forindividuals and organizations -- it's easy publishing for videoblogs, the interface is justlike blogging software. Optional BitTorrent publishing makes broadcasting video
affordable for anyone.4. Videobomb.com. The new social bookmarking website for video. Watch and support thebest video on the web. Share with friends  family. It's like Digg + 
del.icio.us for video.Please forward this widely, write about us, tell your friends about us, and write back to thise-mail with your feedback, we welcome your thoughts on the Democracy platform.
Thanks!Participatory Culture – Holmes, Nicholas, Tiffiniy, Nick, David, Geoff, Matt, Colin, Luc, andfriends.www.getdemocracy.com
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[videoblogging] re: Embed wmp video issues

2006-02-22 Thread Nerissa \(TheVideoQueen\)



Hi Kelley,FreeVideoCoding.com doeswork but some free website services like Blogger.com don't accept _javascript_ (which is what FVC uses in part of it's "Link to Embedded Playerfrom Image" feature.) FVC uses _javascript_ to make your image the same size asyour chosenembed player size (ie: 320x240) so that your website contents dont get shifted when web visitors click to play video.What you CAN do is Link your video file from an image or text. And NOT embed. This is not the same as Linking to an embedded player, but achieves a similar result--web visitors arent hit with a lot of downloading as soon as they get to your webpage.See these examples and instructions for linking to wmv video with imageor text:  http://www.freevideocoding.blogspot.comNerissa 
I have found one site that creates a video code for you, but the code  for the embedded video with a pic doesnt work. The site is:  http://freevideocoding.com/ Does that site usually work? I hope so  because I suck at HTML.  I hope I am making a little sense... my brain is mush from searching  for answers online all evening.  Thanks... Kelley  http://kelleyinthecity.blogspot.com/  Nerissa Odenhttp://TheVideoQueen.comhttp://FreeMediaGuide.comhttp://FreeVideoCoding.comhttp://FreeVideoEditing.comhttp://Nebelungs.blogspot.comMy
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[videoblogging] re: Embed wmp video issues

2006-02-22 Thread Nerissa \(TheVideoQueen\)



Hi Kelley,FreeVideoCoding.com doeswork but some free website services like Blogger.com don't accept _javascript_ (which is what FVC uses in part of it's "Link to Embedded Playerfrom Image" feature.) FVC uses _javascript_ to make your image the same size asyour chosenembed player size (ie: 320x240) so that your website contents dont get shifted when web visitors click to play video.What you CAN do is Link your video file from an image or text. And NOT embed. This is not the same as Linking to an embedded player, but achieves a similar result--web visitors arent hit with a lot of downloading as soon as they get to your webpage.See these examples and instructions for linking to wmv video with imageor text:  http://www.freevideocoding.blogspot.comNerissa 
I have found one site that creates a video code for you, but the code  for the embedded video with a pic doesnt work. The site is:  http://freevideocoding.com/ Does that site usually work? I hope so  because I suck at HTML.  I hope I am making a little sense... my brain is mush from searching  for answers online all evening.  Thanks... Kelley  http://kelleyinthecity.blogspot.com/  Nerissa Odenhttp://TheVideoQueen.comhttp://FreeMediaGuide.comhttp://FreeVideoCoding.comhttp://FreeVideoEditing.comhttp://Nebelungs.blogspot.comMy
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Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Media Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Steve Garfield
Hi Richard,
I've been thinking about this a lot recently since I've been teaching 
some videoblogging classes.

There are a lot of things happening in the video space which are 
diluting the meaning of the term videoblogging.

Everything seems to be called videoblogging these days including 'video 
podcasting', 'Google Video', and 'Subscribe to LOST on iTunes'.

There is the technical definition, videoblogging is video on a blog, 
and the meaning.

In class, we talk about the technical process of getting video onto a 
blog, but then discuss what it all means.  We talk about how by putting 
video on a blog, you get all the bloggy goodness of permalinks, link 
love, comments, and discussion.

We also talk about this Yahoo! list and the twice weekly video 
conferences and the Meet the Vloggers physical meet ups.

'Video blogging' is a community of creative people, and that is what 
makes it more than just video on a blog.

Some of these video aggregation sites can expand our community by 
allowing people to find our videos, and if annotated correctly, they 
can provide a link back to us, where we can bring new people into the 
community.


GOOGLE VIDEO
Google Video makes it really easy to put video up on the web.  It's up 
to the person to make sure they provide links back to their blog so 
that all the bloggy goodness isn't lost.

Pomme  Kelly got 11,000 hits on their blog yesterday.

Pomme  Kelly on Google Video singing Britney Spears Toxic:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7387896948226994299

Nice archive showing more from this user and allowing you to play 
videos back to back.  Google video is great at providing better access 
to video archives.

The link Pomme  Kelly provides goes back to their main blog and not 
the permalink, but you can find the post that relates to the video.

Pomme  Kelly's WordPress blog:
http://pommekelly.wordpress.com/toxic/

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On Feb 22, 2006, at 2:15 AM, Richard BF wrote:

 In recent months, reading this list you would be fooled into thinking
 that videblogging means video on the Internet. We have countless
 videoblog directories which simply aggregate RSS enclosures, we
 have videoblog aggregators which simply play video over the
 Internet, we have videoblog hosting providers which simply host
 video on the Internet, we have videoblog shows which are simply
 amateur TV series hosted on the Internet... the list goes on.
 Videoblog is a buzzword that most people seem to use to describe
 anything with video and the Internet.

--Steve
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http://Rocketboom.com

My most recent post:
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http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2006/02/vlog_soup_episo.html

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Re: [videoblogging] Get Democracy: free and open-source internet TV

2006-02-22 Thread T . Whid



FYIThere is no public_html directory on dreamhost, it would be the directory that is named as your domain.On 2/22/06, Deirdre Straughan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Having some trouble with this. Let me put on my bitchy hat...When I try to submit my RSS feed as a new channel, clicking the Submit a New Channel button (green) just keeps reloading the same page.I find it a bit questionable that your toolbar seems to be copied from iTunes. This does not inspire confidence. Get your own graphics!
As to installing Broadcast Machine, I tried to do this months ago on my old webhost, and they wouldn't let me - probably didn't like the idea of me putting some script they'd never heard of on their servers (and who can blame them?).
Your instructions now say:Installing Broadcast Machine


Download Broadcast Machine and open the zip file.Copy the folder bm to the public_html directory on your website.
Point your browser to 
www.yourwebsite.com/bmIf you see a login screen, you're ready to go.  Just create your first account.
I know a little about managing my site via DreamHost (my new provider), but this seems to be aimed at users more expert than myself - I can't find any directory labeled public_html. 
So... not quite as easy as it needs to be if you want this to be truly broad-based and democratic.On 2/22/06, 
cooperwef 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi VideoBloggers,Tiffiniy with Participatory Culture here. Big news, good news: we've just released the beta
version for Windows of our flagship video player (formerly known as DTV)!We're also announcing a new name for this free and open-source internet TV platform:Democracy. It's perfect for videobloggers and independent publishers -- covers everything
from publishing videos, to watching them in fullscreen, to sharing them over the net.You can download the Democracy player for Windows right now, free of charge as always,on our new community website:

http://www.getdemocracy.com/Mac users: you can grab an updated version 0.8 of Democracy for Mac on GetDemocracyas well. There's a version for Linux users also, so Democracy is now officially cross-platform.
On GetDemocracy.com, you'll find lots of new materials: case studies of how the platformflows together, buttons for you to post on your website to help promote open internet TV,testimonials from actual internet users, help documentation, user forums, and more.
Tthere's an opportunity for all of us to build a new, open mass medium of onlinetelevision. We're developing the Democracy internet TV platform so that watching internetvideo channels will be as easy as watching TV and broadcasting a channel will be open to
everyone, and unlike traditional TV, everyone will have a voice.The Democracy platform encompasses four open-source and open-standards tools we'vereleased over the past year:1. Democracy player. Now available in beta for Windows, Mac, and Linux. New features
include built-in video search— just type your search terms into Democracy and see whatthere is to watch out there on the web. Also, Videobomb integaration—you can nowbomb videos you like from within Democracy player, linking up with the 
Videobomb.comwebsite. It's all coming together.2. Democracy Channel Guide. Recently re-designed, a welcoming home base for internet
TV. Now features over 300 channels (yes!!!) of fascinating internet video with more being
added every day. Please feel free to submit your channel (an RSS feed with videos) bygoing here, it's entirely free:
https://channelguide.participatoryculture.org/?q=submitchannel
3. Broadcast Machine. Free video publishing software. Provides instant video capacity forindividuals and organizations -- it's easy publishing for videoblogs, the interface is justlike blogging software. Optional BitTorrent publishing makes broadcasting video
affordable for anyone.4. Videobomb.com. The new social bookmarking website for video. Watch and support the
best video on the web. Share with friends  family. It's like Digg + 
del.icio.us for video.Please forward this widely, write about us, tell your friends about us, and write back to this
e-mail with your feedback, we welcome your thoughts on the Democracy platform.
Thanks!Participatory Culture – Holmes, Nicholas, Tiffiniy, Nick, David, Geoff, Matt, Colin, Luc, andfriends.
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[videoblogging] download numbers

2006-02-22 Thread Cote289
I'm putting together a service that will be a small part of a larger
program to launch this summer

I'm looking for some real world download numbers for your video blogs
if you can give them

what i'd like is real world download numbers and if you could break
them up by how many downloads per format if you offer more than one format

Thank you

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Re: [videoblogging] Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Julian Doncaster \(Yahoo1\)





It

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michael 
  Sullivan 
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:40 
  AM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Will The Bubble 
  Up Fizzle Down?
  Most have agreed, we need to have systems in place to bubble up 
  video.The idea is to help find so-called 'good stuff'. Granted, that 
  depends on who you'r e asking but we need to speak in generalities too. 
  It's not so much good as it is contagious. We talk about how viral 
  video hosting services are mostly filled with video that is more entertaining 
  to teens goofing around and not so in tune with quality content 
  creation. The ratio is heavily tilted.Some will use the 
  youtubesque services as a stepping stone if at some point they want to 
  take things more seriously then they will also want more control and more 
  flexibility. They will stop using youtubes and start looking at the 
  other options commonly discussed here. Once people have an idea and want 
  to start a project an Internet Video Channel they will abandon their 
  sole use on youtubes. I truly do not feel any concern about 
  this.I do't worry about these big projects damaging the ultimate 
  vision of the open media revolution Vlogging et all. It will 
  co-exist. Some good comes out of it even if its difficult to see. 
  Like I said, they can be a sort of launch pad for some people. Its our 
  job to continue to evolve the tools and services more applicable to 
  vlogging and they will come looking for them. And we will welcome 
  them and show them how to take advantage of the technologies of our 
  time. But still, the issue of bubbling up video. We have 
  various popularity metering techniques but they rely on people and assume that 
  people will actively participate in giving their input by way of a click here 
  and a click there and comment here etc... Such systems can work well in 
  some environments... like product purchases on Amazon or eBay. But will 
  the masses do the same for Internet video to the point where it actually 
  helps? Even if so. How often will these random people who are 
  ranking random videos actually synchronize with what you think is good? 
  Do we subscribe instead to trusted sources? Do we need more of a 
  system that utilizes a broader view of the network subscribe to people who 
  can choose to 'spread' anything that they think is worthy of spreading? 
  If they blog and create content do they click 'spread this' if they truly 
  think they ought to? And that alerts anyone who has chosen to subscribe to 
  this 'person'.. not this blog in particular, but this person. 
  Maybe. They could be posting a new video, a podcast, a picture or 
  linking/quoting an article whatever the format and whatever the 
  content they may choose to give the content that extra 'push' by using 
  this hypothetical 'spread' feature. By default, their blog will ping 
  other sites and offer core RSS feeds etc... but this would be different 
  this would be tapping into the intentionality of the trusted source. And 
  you could be doing the same thing. And those you trust may trust you as 
  well. And turning off these sources should be 2 clicks away. New 
  concept unlikely. but maybe its a good path to work on.What 
  else could we do? Rely on technical algorithms? 5 star rankings? i dont 
  think so. diggs and bombs and karma? is it too easy to digg something? 
  who are these people that are into ranking pieces of content? do they 
  matter? does this only work best for some nicehes and not others? 
  Does it provide enough of a natural cohesion of the conversphere? 
  Are Human Filters better? Will any of this matter in 6 months or 
  2 years? Maybe we will all be focusing on our favorite web sites that we 
  have chosen to trust and that will be enough. They may not exist yet, 
  but sites that monitor the pulse... the vlogosphere pulse, and all the rest of 
  it. They will emerge, you know. so many new projects will 
  sprout. Some will fade and some will linger on. But maybe we 
  need not worry about bubbling up at all and just let the natural evolution of 
  humans and content and the Internet take us to a more filtered future. 
  I pose these thoughts, without necessarily owning any one of 
  them. Just thinking  been interested in dredging up other peoples 
  thoughts here lately. So many people are on this group, so few are 
  active. Regardless of that I would enjoy reading your thoughts on 
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Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Media Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Joshua Seiden



 The point of the recent Four Eyed Monsters discussion seems to have been how to use the Internet to promote your more traditional film, which I'd argue has jack to do with this list.

[snip]

 What do you think?---I've been putting video on a blog since October '05, and have been on this list since about the same time. Does that make me a videoblogger or not? Frankly, I don't care. I'm interested in exploring rich communication, and the way that communication changes according to the medium employed. The intersection of video and blogs is interesting to me as a medium, and I enjoy experimenting with it to see what is possible.
Recently, I've been struggling with a direction for my blog. When you point a camera at your face and speak into it, you have nowhere to hide, except within yourself. The technique is so personal. So while I started the blog to explore the communication possibilities of the medium, I've had to confront the personal nature of the work I'm producing. My most recent post is about the difficulty of being personal in a medium that threatens to reveal all. The post was a direct (and very clumsy) response to FEM, especially the incredibly inspiring Episode 
3.5, which did a beautiful job of exploring the difficulty of the creative process, the difficulty of confronting personally revealing material, and was itself incredibly open and personal. It moved me deeply. I'm trying to do work that moves me. I'll leave the naming of that activity to others.
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[videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Media Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Bill Streeter
This is an interesting question. And it kinda goes to my own working 
definitions that I've expressed here before. I don't happen to 
believe that videoblogs are defined by content as much as 
methodology. A videoblog to me is simply video on a blog. That is 
video posted in a blog format, which is a regularly updated website 
where content is posted in cronological dated posts. It may or may 
not have an RSS feed, comments, a blog roll etc. But it always has 
chronological dated posts on a web page. Thus the name Web Log. The 
whole personal vs show thing to me is kind of a weird way of looking 
at it. The first blogs I read were political blogs and they most 
certainly weren't personal journals. I understand that the personal 
journals, that a lot of people understand blogs to be, are a genre 
of the form, but I wouldn't ever say that a defining characteristic 
of a blog is that it's personal. So to my thinking if a video blog 
is simply video on a blog then it's not necessarily personal. To me 
saying a blog or a videoblog is by definition personal is like 
saying TV is all sitcoms or all films are documentaries. A blog is a 
media form, and that form has genres, personal, political, artistic 
etc. The beauty being (which is kind of the beauty of the Internet 
as a whole) is that it's simple for any individual to do without 
much help or particular technical expertise, and that makes personal 
forms or genres possible.

The other thing that I've been thinking about recently is if there 
is or isn't a difference between a videoblog or a video podcast. And 
this is what I've been thinking: if we accept the premise that a 
videoblog is simply video on a blog and we say that a video podcast 
is the same as a videoblog then conversely a podcast is the same as 
a blog. Well, we know that that's not true. What we know (or at 
least the way I see it) a podcast is simply multimedia distributed 
via a rss feed.  So accepting this definition then a video blog can 
also be a video podcast, or not if it is video posted in blog form 
sans an RSS feed. Also a person can post video to the internet 
outside of the blog form but still deliver it on an RSS feed. This 
would be a video podcast that isn't also video blog. 

So if you accept these definitions (and I'm not saying that you have 
to) then what the people from Four Eyed Monsters are doing is not 
video bogging, but video podcasting—since they are primarily 
publishing video via an RSS feed sans the blog form. They do have 
blogs, but on Myspace, and that's not where their video feeds are 
posted.

So those are my thoughts. It's not something that I feel is set in 
stone, but that's just where my head is at with it at the moment.


Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard BF [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Old timers on this list are gonna love me bringing this up again. 
 Newbies are probably going to love me even more for disturbing the 
 mainstream media lovefest which seems to have taken over this 
email 
 list in the past few months.
 
 I received some offlist emails about my Four Eyed Monsters post, 
 which I really think should be reposted here, as they had much 
more 
 information about the project, and offerred an alternate view to 
my 
 naive opinions. If you emailed me, please CC it here, it will be 
 interesting for others to read.
 
 But the question it poses is yet again, what is this list for?
 
 The simple answer is to help out new videobloggers. Which again 
begs 
 the question ducking what is videoblogging? /ducking
 
 In recent months, reading this list you would be fooled into 
thinking 
 that videblogging means video on the Internet. We have countless 
 videoblog directories which simply aggregate RSS enclosures, we 
 have videoblog aggregators which simply play video over the 
 Internet, we have videoblog hosting providers which simply host 
 video on the Internet, we have videoblog shows which are simply 
 amateur TV series hosted on the Internet... the list goes on. 
 Videoblog is a buzzword that most people seem to use to describe 
 anything with video and the Internet.
 
 Others, like me, think it is more about the personal and all that 
it 
 entails. So the gap between these opinions is still, after 18 
months, 
 enormous.
 
 The point of the recent Four Eyed Monsters discussion seems to 
have 
 been how to use the Internet to promote your more traditional 
film, 
 which I'd argue has jack to do with this list.
 
 On the vlogtheory list, arguably whose main job is to define 
 videoblogging, we've basically given up discussing the definition, 
 because nobody will change their mind about what they think a 
 videoblog is. It's like walking into a party where everyone has 
their 
 arms crossed and nobody is talking.
 
 Michael's Vlog Anarchy video was a great bird flip to definition, 
but 
 this list is now a perfect example of why videoblogging needs to 
be 
 defined, otherwise perhaps 

[videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Media Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Ms. Kitka
emWhat's in a name?  A videoblog by any other name would still have
an RSS feed.../em
- Kitka Shakespeare, 2006 A.C.E.

To me videoblogging has more to do with the video being available via
RSS... this is what truly sets it apart from regular video on the web.
 The blog is simply something that facilitates its distribution/broadcast.

When it comes down to it, most of my viewers have never seen my web
site/blog page anyways... at least 95% of my audience downloads
Kitkast through iTunes/iPodder/FireAnt/MeFeedia/etc.  Hencewhy I have
aborted all attempts to place advertizing on my blog page!

Kitka
http://www.kitkast.com/ 


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is an interesting question. And it kinda goes to my own working 
 definitions that I've expressed here before. I don't happen to 
 believe that videoblogs are defined by content as much as 
 methodology. A videoblog to me is simply video on a blog. That is 
 video posted in a blog format, which is a regularly updated website 
 where content is posted in cronological dated posts. It may or may 
 not have an RSS feed, comments, a blog roll etc. But it always has 
 chronological dated posts on a web page. Thus the name Web Log. The 
 whole personal vs show thing to me is kind of a weird way of looking 
 at it. The first blogs I read were political blogs and they most 
 certainly weren't personal journals. I understand that the personal 
 journals, that a lot of people understand blogs to be, are a genre 
 of the form, but I wouldn't ever say that a defining characteristic 
 of a blog is that it's personal. So to my thinking if a video blog 
 is simply video on a blog then it's not necessarily personal. To me 
 saying a blog or a videoblog is by definition personal is like 
 saying TV is all sitcoms or all films are documentaries. A blog is a 
 media form, and that form has genres, personal, political, artistic 
 etc. The beauty being (which is kind of the beauty of the Internet 
 as a whole) is that it's simple for any individual to do without 
 much help or particular technical expertise, and that makes personal 
 forms or genres possible.
 
 The other thing that I've been thinking about recently is if there 
 is or isn't a difference between a videoblog or a video podcast. And 
 this is what I've been thinking: if we accept the premise that a 
 videoblog is simply video on a blog and we say that a video podcast 
 is the same as a videoblog then conversely a podcast is the same as 
 a blog. Well, we know that that's not true. What we know (or at 
 least the way I see it) a podcast is simply multimedia distributed 
 via a rss feed.  So accepting this definition then a video blog can 
 also be a video podcast, or not if it is video posted in blog form 
 sans an RSS feed. Also a person can post video to the internet 
 outside of the blog form but still deliver it on an RSS feed. This 
 would be a video podcast that isn't also video blog. 
 
 So if you accept these definitions (and I'm not saying that you have 
 to) then what the people from Four Eyed Monsters are doing is not 
 video bogging, but video podcasting—since they are primarily 
 publishing video via an RSS feed sans the blog form. They do have 
 blogs, but on Myspace, and that's not where their video feeds are 
 posted.
 
 So those are my thoughts. It's not something that I feel is set in 
 stone, but that's just where my head is at with it at the moment.
 
 
 Bill Streeter
 LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
 www.lofistl.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard BF richardb@ 
 wrote:
 
  Old timers on this list are gonna love me bringing this up again. 
  Newbies are probably going to love me even more for disturbing the 
  mainstream media lovefest which seems to have taken over this 
 email 
  list in the past few months.
  
  I received some offlist emails about my Four Eyed Monsters post, 
  which I really think should be reposted here, as they had much 
 more 
  information about the project, and offerred an alternate view to 
 my 
  naive opinions. If you emailed me, please CC it here, it will be 
  interesting for others to read.
  
  But the question it poses is yet again, what is this list for?
  
  The simple answer is to help out new videobloggers. Which again 
 begs 
  the question ducking what is videoblogging? /ducking
  
  In recent months, reading this list you would be fooled into 
 thinking 
  that videblogging means video on the Internet. We have countless 
  videoblog directories which simply aggregate RSS enclosures, we 
  have videoblog aggregators which simply play video over the 
  Internet, we have videoblog hosting providers which simply host 
  video on the Internet, we have videoblog shows which are simply 
  amateur TV series hosted on the Internet... the list goes on. 
  Videoblog is a buzzword that most people seem to use to describe 
  anything with video and the Internet.
  
  Others, like me, think it is more about the 

[videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Media Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread David Howell
I think that in the simplest and most basic description one can use,
this, in my opinion, is the definition of a vlog

David
http://www.taoofdavid.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A videoblog to me is simply video on a blog. That is 
 video posted in a blog format, which is a regularly updated website 
 where content is posted in cronological dated posts.

 Bill Streeter
 LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
 www.lofistl.com
 







 
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[videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Media Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Enric
Net Videos Want To Travel:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/netvidtheory/message/11
http://tinyurl.com/ndmgm

   ;),

   Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 emWhat's in a name?  A videoblog by any other name would still have
 an RSS feed.../em
 - Kitka Shakespeare, 2006 A.C.E.
 
 To me videoblogging has more to do with the video being available via
 RSS... this is what truly sets it apart from regular video on the web.
  The blog is simply something that facilitates its
distribution/broadcast.
 
 When it comes down to it, most of my viewers have never seen my web
 site/blog page anyways... at least 95% of my audience downloads
 Kitkast through iTunes/iPodder/FireAnt/MeFeedia/etc.  Hencewhy I have
 aborted all attempts to place advertizing on my blog page!
 
 Kitka
 http://www.kitkast.com/ 
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter bill@ wrote:
 
  This is an interesting question. And it kinda goes to my own working 
  definitions that I've expressed here before. I don't happen to 
  believe that videoblogs are defined by content as much as 
  methodology. A videoblog to me is simply video on a blog. That is 
  video posted in a blog format, which is a regularly updated website 
  where content is posted in cronological dated posts. It may or may 
  not have an RSS feed, comments, a blog roll etc. But it always has 
  chronological dated posts on a web page. Thus the name Web Log. The 
  whole personal vs show thing to me is kind of a weird way of looking 
  at it. The first blogs I read were political blogs and they most 
  certainly weren't personal journals. I understand that the personal 
  journals, that a lot of people understand blogs to be, are a genre 
  of the form, but I wouldn't ever say that a defining characteristic 
  of a blog is that it's personal. So to my thinking if a video blog 
  is simply video on a blog then it's not necessarily personal. To me 
  saying a blog or a videoblog is by definition personal is like 
  saying TV is all sitcoms or all films are documentaries. A blog is a 
  media form, and that form has genres, personal, political, artistic 
  etc. The beauty being (which is kind of the beauty of the Internet 
  as a whole) is that it's simple for any individual to do without 
  much help or particular technical expertise, and that makes personal 
  forms or genres possible.
  
  The other thing that I've been thinking about recently is if there 
  is or isn't a difference between a videoblog or a video podcast. And 
  this is what I've been thinking: if we accept the premise that a 
  videoblog is simply video on a blog and we say that a video podcast 
  is the same as a videoblog then conversely a podcast is the same as 
  a blog. Well, we know that that's not true. What we know (or at 
  least the way I see it) a podcast is simply multimedia distributed 
  via a rss feed.  So accepting this definition then a video blog can 
  also be a video podcast, or not if it is video posted in blog form 
  sans an RSS feed. Also a person can post video to the internet 
  outside of the blog form but still deliver it on an RSS feed. This 
  would be a video podcast that isn't also video blog. 
  
  So if you accept these definitions (and I'm not saying that you have 
  to) then what the people from Four Eyed Monsters are doing is not 
  video bogging, but video podcasting—since they are primarily 
  publishing video via an RSS feed sans the blog form. They do have 
  blogs, but on Myspace, and that's not where their video feeds are 
  posted.
  
  So those are my thoughts. It's not something that I feel is set in 
  stone, but that's just where my head is at with it at the moment.
  
  
  Bill Streeter
  LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
  www.lofistl.com
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard BF richardb@ 
  wrote:
  
   Old timers on this list are gonna love me bringing this up again. 
   Newbies are probably going to love me even more for disturbing the 
   mainstream media lovefest which seems to have taken over this 
  email 
   list in the past few months.
   
   I received some offlist emails about my Four Eyed Monsters post, 
   which I really think should be reposted here, as they had much 
  more 
   information about the project, and offerred an alternate view to 
  my 
   naive opinions. If you emailed me, please CC it here, it will be 
   interesting for others to read.
   
   But the question it poses is yet again, what is this list for?
   
   The simple answer is to help out new videobloggers. Which again 
  begs 
   the question ducking what is videoblogging? /ducking
   
   In recent months, reading this list you would be fooled into 
  thinking 
   that videblogging means video on the Internet. We have countless 
   videoblog directories which simply aggregate RSS enclosures, we 
   have videoblog aggregators which simply play video over the 
   Internet, we have videoblog hosting providers which simply host 
  

[videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Joshua Paul
I've mentioned this to a small amount of people, but I'll put it out  
there to the 2000+ of the group.

I think there is a great opportunity for the aggregators to use  
Bayesian-type filtering (think email spam filters) to help gather  
videos of interest to the viewer. If the aggregator can ascertain the  
context from the blog post (and possibly the related tags in a  
directory like MeFeedia or FireAnt), then it can use that context to  
determine the type of video. It could then filter the videos  
appropriately.

Right now I have 373 unwatched videos in FireAnt. If it had a way to  
learn what I like, it could then bubble up the videos I want to  
watch.

Hopefully someone will run with this (MeFeedia, FireAnt, I/ON...anyone?)

My 2¢.

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[videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread David Dundas
Working on it :). I love reading this group because you all are so far
ahead of regular people. I love it because it is what is driving
mainstream 6-12 months out. Believe it or not I still have a hard time
explaing RSS to my friends and family! 

So while all of these features are being built and considered,
aggregators are still learning how people are using the site, and what
their habits are. For example. I love dig as a site. But because its
so seeming teen/tech heavy the only articles that bubble are about
Apple, Linux, or Google. 
So now I try Newsvine, and its more progressive news with a NY times
slant because of the types of people using it. 

I have said this in past posts...but give us some time to mature a bit
and the audience to moderate a bit, and our offerings will improve.
But these ratings types really only work when you get a fair cross
sampling of users. 

-David 
www.youare.tv
Get your video out there
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've mentioned this to a small amount of people, but I'll put it out  
 there to the 2000+ of the group.
 
 I think there is a great opportunity for the aggregators to use  
 Bayesian-type filtering (think email spam filters) to help gather  
 videos of interest to the viewer. If the aggregator can ascertain the  
 context from the blog post (and possibly the related tags in a  
 directory like MeFeedia or FireAnt), then it can use that context to  
 determine the type of video. It could then filter the videos  
 appropriately.
 
 Right now I have 373 unwatched videos in FireAnt. If it had a way to  
 learn what I like, it could then bubble up the videos I want to  
 watch.
 
 Hopefully someone will run with this (MeFeedia, FireAnt, I/ON...anyone?)
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Michael Sullivan



I've thought about bayesian too.I had actually done some work on a blogging engine using this for comment spam control. Its def something to consider working off of..as part of the mix. Might help. Not too simple to do, however.
sullOn 2/22/06, Joshua Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've mentioned this to a small amount of people, but I'll put it outthere to the 2000+ of the group.I think there is a great opportunity for the aggregators to useBayesian-type filtering (think email spam filters) to help gather
videos of interest to the viewer. If the aggregator can ascertain thecontext from the blog post (and possibly the related tags in adirectory like MeFeedia or FireAnt), then it can use that context todetermine the type of video. It could then filter the videos
appropriately.Right now I have 373 unwatched videos in FireAnt. If it had a way tolearn what I like, it could then bubble up the videos I want towatch.Hopefully someone will run with this (MeFeedia, FireAnt, I/ON...anyone?)
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Michael Sullivan



But these ratings types really only work when you get a fair crosssampling of users.
this is key. btw, keep up the good work on youare.tv. i enjoy it.sullOn 2/22/06, David Dundas
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Working on it :). I love reading this group because you all are so far
ahead of regular people. I love it because it is what is drivingmainstream 6-12 months out. Believe it or not I still have a hard timeexplaing RSS to my friends and family!So while all of these features are being built and considered,
aggregators are still learning how people are using the site, and whattheir habits are. For example. I love dig as a site. But because itsso seeming teen/tech heavy the only articles that bubble are about
Apple, Linux, or Google.So now I try Newsvine, and its more progressive news with a NY timesslant because of the types of people using it.I have said this in past posts...but give us some time to mature a bit
and the audience to moderate a bit, and our offerings will improve.But these ratings types really only work when you get a fair crosssampling of users.-Davidwww.youare.tv
Get your video out there--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've mentioned this to a small amount of people, but I'll put it out
 there to the 2000+ of the group. I think there is a great opportunity for the aggregators to use Bayesian-type filtering (think email spam filters) to help gather videos of interest to the viewer. If the aggregator can ascertain the
 context from the blog post (and possibly the related tags in a directory like MeFeedia or FireAnt), then it can use that context to determine the type of video. It could then filter the videos
 appropriately. Right now I have 373 unwatched videos in FireAnt. If it had a way to learn what I like, it could then bubble up the videos I want to watch.
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Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Brett Gaylor




They are listed under MySpace Film which is kinda like being listedunder MySpace Music, but in this case it looks like they get a sweet
videoplayer.
Yeah, the FEM story is really a myspace story - they were talking about
how when they showed the film in festivals, 3/4 of the audience had
heard about it from myspace, recommended from a friend. I think
we miss the point of we start talking about how bloggy their content
is or how divine it is, when what is happening is that they were able
to build an audience, and eventually maybe theatrical distribution,
from word of mouth. That is powerful.

 I think they need to take a step back and embrace
 the new media a bit better, instead of using the online medium essentially to promote an offline product.

Not at all, Richard. These are FILMMAKERS using videoblogging to
overcome the largest hurdle in the business: distribution.
They're using a videoblog to attract attention and gain an audience,
rather than selling their sole to a multinational to have their face
plastered all over entertainment weekly. Its really great.
Not everyone is interested in this medium for the same reasons (ie
videoblogging for videobloggings sake), and I for one am glad that the
ranks are diversifying.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Media Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Brett Gaylor



Its whatever you want it to be. Doors are wide open. More
time we talk about this, less time we're changing the future.

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Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Kunga
Here. Here. Bravo. That is the point of my enthusiasm.
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On Feb 22, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Brett Gaylor wrote:

 These are FILMMAKERS using videoblogging to overcome the largest  
 hurdle in the business: distribution.  They're using a videoblog to  
 attract attention and gain an audience, rather than selling their  
 sole to a multinational to have their face plastered all over  
 entertainment weekly.  Its really great.  Not everyone is  
 interested in this medium for the same reasons (ie videoblogging  
 for videobloggings sake), and I for one am glad that the ranks are  
 diversifying.



 
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Re: [videoblogging] Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Pete Prodoehl
robert a/k/a r wrote:
 Further, the use of copyrighted music in vlogs will probably ignite a 
 bit of controversy at some point. I think we should reiterate for noobs 
 who may be tempted to score their vids that this is a violation. Is 
 that in the wiki somehwere?

You can use copyrighted work, *if* you have permission.

All of the work I create, I hold the copyright to. Most of the work I 
create (which I hold the copyright to) is *also* licenses under a 
Creative Commons license which allows re-use.


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Enric wrote:
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r
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 I completely agree with Josh, re-posting the intellectual property of 
 others is wrong.

 Summit View Documentary a kid skateboarding with proprietary music.
  While the music shouldn't be used, it's a practice that's been
 happening in some popular videoblogs.

And I really wish it would stop. I cringe every time I see a video by 
someone in this group that is using music they obviously do not have the 
right to use. If we are supposed to be here helping newbies get into 
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[videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Enric wrote:
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r
  robert.videoblogging@ wrote:
  I completely agree with Josh, re-posting the intellectual
property of 
  others is wrong.
 
  Summit View Documentary a kid skateboarding with proprietary music.
   While the music shouldn't be used, it's a practice that's been
  happening in some popular videoblogs.
 
 And I really wish it would stop. I cringe every time I see a video by 
 someone in this group that is using music they obviously do not have
the 
 right to use. If we are supposed to be here helping newbies get into 
 videoblogging, what sort of example does that set?
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Caution Zero
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 I completely agree and have been using pod/vlogsafe
 music from
 magnatune.com.

given that someday we might want to try to sell our
stuff, i've a) asked a composer to do some original
music, but equally fun has been b) using royalty-free
music.  i love how easy it is to find on the net now. 
it ain't as cheap as 'free!' but it's really really
good when you need very specific moods to be able to
just keyword search off things like nostalgic or
adventurous and get zip files with 15 sec, 30 sec,
and 60 sec versions.  we have a running gag going
right now where a melodramatic piece of music called
Thrill Seekers is going to appear in every single
episode of our first season... getting our money's
worth on that one at least...

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[videoblogging] Free Video Creation Hosting

2006-02-22 Thread peterzottolo
Hello, it's been awhile since I posted anything, but I can see the 
community is growing.  I've been pestering my company for a good 
year now to make putting video in blogs easier, and with the most 
recent release, they've finally done so - kinda.  At least it's 
easier now than it was before.

Here's a free  easy way to make a video  put it on a blog, 
webpage, anywhere, really:

Things you'll need: a decent computer, a decent webcam, and a decent 
internet connection.

STEP ONE: Go to www.sightspeed.com, create a free account, and 
download the software.

STEP TWO: Aftger signing in, click Create. Record a 30 second video 
of you riffing on music, politics, unrequited love, etc. Check the 
box Create a Video Blog link. This will create an http url that 
you can link to.

STEP THREE: Send the video  upload it to our server. When finished, 
you'll see a url which you can copy  paste. 

That's it. SightSpeed will host your video for free for 30 days.

This is just to get you started. There's more you can do with 
SightSpeed, but I don't want to sound too much like a salesman. And 
I'll be the first to admit that there might be bugs.  Or, it may not 
work flawlessly for you.  However, if you do use SightSpeed, you'll 
see it's an easy way to get your video hosted, and it'll make my 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Media Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Bill Streeter wrote:

 The other thing that I've been thinking about recently is if there 
 is or isn't a difference between a videoblog or a video podcast.

My feeling is that most of the people who come into the video thing via 
podcasting, which has leaned so heavily towards the show genre rather 
than the non-show genre will call it a video podcast and make shows, 
while others, maybe those who were/are just bloggers might identify more 
with the term videoblogging

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Pete Prodoehl
davecircumnavigator wrote:
 Here's the scenario: I've finished shooting material for tomorrow's 
 vlog, but I haven't edited it.  It's dinner time.  It's so much 
 easier to let American Idol wash over me while I eat than to seek 
 out new material on the Internet because I'm not well set up for the 
 latter, while I've got a TV in my kitchen where I dine and I just 
 want to plotz and relax and not do anything for a few minutes.

I know the feeling... Too many times I really *want* to get some 
editing/work done, but after 10+ hrs slaving for the man and 90 minutes 
of driving, I barely have the strength left to lift the remote.

 And the most viewed show on 
 Ifilm is of two adolescent girls kissing.  Well at least they're not 
 skateboarding while they kiss.

Now that would be worth watching!


 www.capatainhumphreys.com

Did you mean www.captainhumphreys.com ?


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Caution Zero wrote:
 --- Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I completely agree and have been using pod/vlogsafe
 music from
 magnatune.com.
 
 given that someday we might want to try to sell our
 stuff, i've a) asked a composer to do some original
 music, but equally fun has been b) using royalty-free
 music.  i love how easy it is to find on the net now. 
 it ain't as cheap as 'free!' but it's really really
 good when you need very specific moods to be able to
 just keyword search off things like nostalgic or
 adventurous and get zip files with 15 sec, 30 sec,
 and 60 sec versions.  we have a running gag going
 right now where a melodramatic piece of music called
 Thrill Seekers is going to appear in every single
 episode of our first season... getting our money's
 worth on that one at least...

Don't forget that if you do get to the point of selling your stuff, you 
can try to work out a deal with the copyright holder. Most of my stuff 
is CC Non-Commercial, but if you used it, and later had a chance to make 
money with it, I'd gladly work something out to supply you with a 
commercial license.


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Re: [videoblogging] Free Video Creation Hosting

2006-02-22 Thread Pete Prodoehl
peterzottolo wrote:
 
 That's it. SightSpeed will host your video for free for 30 days.

 OK, enough of me.  It's all about sharing ideas.  

Here's an idea Host the video forever instead of for 30 days.


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Re: [videoblogging] Free Video Creation Hosting

2006-02-22 Thread Paul Knight


Hmmm free for 30days.  Dailymotion have had facility for about 6 months now and they hold that video possibly forever or how long the site is open for.  Good idea but late and possibly expensive (more money than free anyway)2pPaul KnightOn 22 Feb 2006, at 19:12, peterzottolo wrote:  Hello, it's been awhile since I posted anything, but I can see the  community is growing.  I've been pestering my company for a good  year now to make putting video in blogs easier, and with the most  recent release, they've finally done so - kinda.  At least it's  easier now than it was before.  Here's a free  easy way to make a video  put it on a blog,  webpage, anywhere, really:  Things you'll need: a decent computer, a decent webcam, and a decent  internet connection.  STEP ONE: Go to www.sightspeed.com, create a free account, and  download the software.  STEP TWO: Aftger signing in, click Create. Record a 30 second video  of you riffing on music, politics, unrequited love, etc. Check the  box "Create a Video Blog link." This will create an http url that  you can link to.  STEP THREE: Send the video  upload it to our server. When finished,  you'll see a url which you can copy  paste.   That's it. SightSpeed will host your video for free for 30 days.  This is just to get you started. There's more you can do with  SightSpeed, but I don't want to sound too much like a salesman. And  I'll be the first to admit that there might be bugs.  Or, it may not  work flawlessly for you.  However, if you do use SightSpeed, you'll  see it's an easy way to get your video hosted, and it'll make my  bosses happy and give me a little job security.  Which always helps.  OK, enough of me.  It's all about sharing ideas. SPONSORED LINKS  Individual  Fireant  Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Free Video Creation Hosting

2006-02-22 Thread peterzottolo
Yeah, that'd be cool, but I think that's their whole MO, to get people 
to pay the subscription fee for eternal storage.  I guess they have to 
pay me somehow :)

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 peterzottolo wrote:
  
  That's it. SightSpeed will host your video for free for 30 days.
 
  OK, enough of me.  It's all about sharing ideas.  
 
 Here's an idea Host the video forever instead of for 30 days.
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Free Video Creation Hosting

2006-02-22 Thread peterzottolo
Hmmm, interesting.  Yes, definitely more money than free.  I wonder 
if the big guys would go for free hosting...

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 Hmmm free for 30days.  Dailymotion have had facility for about 6  
 months now and they hold that video possibly forever or how long 
the  
 site is open for.  Good idea but late and possibly expensive 
(more  
 money than free anyway)
 
 2p
 
 Paul Knight
 
 On 22 Feb 2006, at 19:12, peterzottolo wrote:
 
  Hello, it's been awhile since I posted anything, but I can see 
the
  community is growing.  I've been pestering my company for a good
  year now to make putting video in blogs easier, and with the most
  recent release, they've finally done so - kinda.  At least it's
  easier now than it was before.
 
  Here's a free  easy way to make a video  put it on a blog,
  webpage, anywhere, really:
 
  Things you'll need: a decent computer, a decent webcam, and a 
decent
  internet connection.
 
  STEP ONE: Go to www.sightspeed.com, create a free account, and
  download the software.
 
  STEP TWO: Aftger signing in, click Create. Record a 30 second 
video
  of you riffing on music, politics, unrequited love, etc. Check 
the
  box Create a Video Blog link. This will create an http url that
  you can link to.
 
  STEP THREE: Send the video  upload it to our server. When 
finished,
  you'll see a url which you can copy  paste.
 
  That's it. SightSpeed will host your video for free for 30 days.
 
  This is just to get you started. There's more you can do with
  SightSpeed, but I don't want to sound too much like a salesman. 
And
  I'll be the first to admit that there might be bugs.  Or, it may 
not
  work flawlessly for you.  However, if you do use SightSpeed, 
you'll
  see it's an easy way to get your video hosted, and it'll make my
  bosses happy and give me a little job security.  Which always 
helps.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Caution Zero
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 Don't forget that if you do get to the point of
 selling your stuff, you 
 can try to work out a deal with the copyright
 holder. Most of my stuff 
 is CC Non-Commercial, but if you used it, and later
 had a chance to make 
 money with it, I'd gladly work something out to
 supply you with a 
 commercial license.

it's probably a lot less risky to work that out in
advance rather then when you decide to sell your work,
but yeah.  i could do that, but what i like about the
royalty-free music sites i'm using is how easily
searchable they are and how reliable they are.  that
was one of the main reasons i wanted to mention that
type of music as a resource.  that said, read the
small print if you go that route - not all
royalty-free licenses are equally friendly; one site
in particular, for instance, forced you to declare
your finished product all rights reserved if you
wanted to use their music, which didn't work at all
with my CC plans.

that said, if we do a season two, i am hoping to put
out more of a call for composers - try to get some CC
savvy musicians who might want to help score specific
scenes or offer existing tunes that they think would
fit what we need.  i didn't really think i'd have much
luck with that approach until i'd built an audience,
so i just asked a buddy to score some scenes, but as
we got into editing, it became clear we needed extra
stuff.  actually, one of our editors has gotten really
damn savvy just using soundtrack to get beds and loops
going that sound really professional.  it still kind
of stuns me how cool the tools / options are these
days; fun stuff indeed.  

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Re: [videoblogging] Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Michael Sullivan



to get back on topic (can the copyright chat start a new thread maybe?)perhaps matching people with similar interests
Well, the other people who like this also like... is somewhat useful but not as useful in the world of video content.and also, we need something that isnt only understood by geeks or savvy social networking type users. this leaves out most options that other people just wont pick up on. and these 'other' people well, their are like millions of them ;-)
sullOn 2/21/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



perhaps matching people with similar interests ala del.icio.us. The
proxy are the tags. In the vlogging case it would be does this vlogger
like similar/dis-similar things?On 2/21/06, Peter Van Dijck 
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 On 2/21/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Most have agreed, we need to have systems in place to bubble up video.My
2c: bubbling popular stuff up is stupid. It's about what YOU want to
see, and MOST of the time, that's *not* popular stuff. If it was, you
would be satisfied gazing at the various youtube/yahoo/aol/mtv.. video
pages. Hey, if it was, you'd watch tv for god sake!
Forget about bubbling up popular stuff. We haven't nailed
finding video you want to watch, but it's worth trying. It's about what
communities recommend to each other. It's about your friends. It's
about your interests. At least shoot for something better than
bubbling stuff up.
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[videoblogging] Re: Apple ditching its OS and going to Windows???

2006-02-22 Thread Bill Streeter
This is pure unfounded speculation. There is nothing to indicate 
that this would ever happen. I personally couldn't see this ever 
happening, one of Apples greatest strengths is the OS X operating 
system.

Bill Streeter
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Re: [videoblogging] Apple ditching its OS and going to Windows???

2006-02-22 Thread Paul Knight


Scary, I am afraid though if this happens I will dump my computer and go and live in the woods.Can't they devolop a virus to wipe out Windows for good.  It's slow buggy and a pile of plop.  Apple is how a computer should be, easy.2pOn 22 Feb 2006, at 20:57, Its A Mystery and So Im I wrote:I found this interesting item on another yahoogroup.  --   "The idea that Apple would ditch its own OS for Microsoft Windows came  to me from Yakov Epstein, a professor of psychology at Rutgers  University, who wrote to me convinced that the process had already  begun."   http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185221,00.html   SPONSORED LINKS  Individual  Fireant  Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Apple ditching its OS and going to Windows???

2006-02-22 Thread Enric
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 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185221,00.html


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Re: [videoblogging] Apple ditching its OS and going to Windows???

2006-02-22 Thread T . Whid



This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.Dvorak started this rumor.http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1923151,00.asp
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Scary, I am afraid though if this happens I will dump my computer and go and live in the woods.Can't they devolop a virus to wipe out Windows for good. It's slow buggy and a pile of plop. Apple is how a computer should be, easy.
2pOn 22 Feb 2006, at 20:57, Its A Mystery and So Im I wrote:I found this interesting item on another yahoogroup.
  --   The idea that Apple would ditch its own OS for Microsoft Windows came  to me from Yakov Epstein, a professor of psychology at Rutgers  University, who wrote to me convinced that the process had already 
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Re: [videoblogging] Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Joshua Kinberg
 and also, we need something that isnt only understood by geeks or savvy 
 social networking type users.  this leaves out most options that other people 
 just wont pick up on.  and these 'other' people well, their are like 
 millions of them ;-)

I don't think there's anything wrong with focusing on savvy social
networking type users. They are the trendsetters and tastemakers.
Letting them be the active ones and providing ways for them to share
the fruits of their labor provides benefit to all other users (yes,
the millions of them). The recognition ahould be a rewarding
experience for those savvy users, thus encouraging a virtuous cycle of
participation.

my 2 cents.

-Josh


On 2/22/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
to get back on topic (can the copyright chat start a new thread maybe?)


  perhaps matching people with similar interests
 

 Well, the  other people who like this also like... is somewhat useful but 
 not as useful in the world of video content.

 and also, we need something that isnt only understood by geeks or savvy 
 social networking type users.  this leaves out most options that other people 
 just wont pick up on.  and these 'other' people well, their are like 
 millions of them ;-)

 sull



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  perhaps matching people with similar interests ala del.icio.us. The 
  proxy are the tags. In the vlogging case it would be does this vlogger like 
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  On 2/21/06, Peter Van Dijck  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
On 2/21/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:   Most have 
agreed, we need to have systems in place to bubble up video.
  
   My 2c: bubbling popular stuff up is stupid. It's about what YOU want to 
   see, and MOST of the time, that's *not* popular stuff. If it was, you 
   would be satisfied gazing at the various youtube/yahoo/aol/mtv.. video 
   pages. Hey, if it was, you'd watch tv for god sake!
  
   Forget about bubbling up popular stuff. We haven't nailed finding video 
   you want to watch, but it's worth trying. It's about what communities 
   recommend to each other. It's about your friends. It's about your 
   interests. At least shoot for something better than bubbling stuff up.
  
   Bubbling stuff up is dead.
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Apple ditching its OS and going to Windows???

2006-02-22 Thread BevSykes





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Can't they devolop a virus to 
wipe out Windows for good. It's slow buggy and a pile of plop. Apple 
is how a computer should be, easy.

Bless you, it all depends. I worked in an 
office for a month and had to deal with a Mac and nearly threw it through the 
window every single day, it was so frustrating. It was my second 
experience with a Mac and the first experience was the same. I think it 
all depends on what you start with.
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[videoblogging] Re: strange footage request

2006-02-22 Thread Susan
This reminds me of the old 1960s black-and-white the goat is dead
movies they used to show us to demonstrate the effects of mustard gas
and other agents on soldiers.

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 a friend of mine is working on a video piece about the last movements of
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 seems a bit morbid, if it makes you feel better she is a vegetarian!
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Michael Sullivan



true that may be.my point was more to deter round-about ways of solving the puzzle that only some would grasp and even less would actually DO.simplicity rules and as trendsetters, we should want to make things a snap.
yes, in time much will be learnt. but IF we can cater to both the savvy and the rest simultaneously, then that's an even better thing. sullOn 2/22/06, 
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 and also, we need something that isnt only understood by geeks or savvy social networking type users.this leaves out most options that other people just wont pick up on.and these 'other' people well, their are like millions of them ;-)
I don't think there's anything wrong with focusing on savvy socialnetworking type users. They are the trendsetters and tastemakers.Letting them be the active ones and providing ways for them to sharethe fruits of their labor provides benefit to all other users (yes,
the millions of them). The recognition ahould be a rewardingexperience for those savvy users, thus encouraging a virtuous cycle ofparticipation.my 2 cents.-JoshOn 2/22/06, Michael Sullivan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:to get back on topic (can the copyright chat start a new thread maybe?)  perhaps matching people with similar interests
  Well, theother people who like this also like... is somewhat useful but not as useful in the world of video content. and also, we need something that isnt only understood by geeks or savvy social networking type users.this leaves out most options that other people just wont pick up on.and these 'other' people well, their are like millions of them ;-)
 sull On 2/21/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  perhaps matching people with similar interests ala 
del.icio.us. The proxy are the tags. In the vlogging case it would be does this vlogger like similar/dis-similar things? On 2/21/06, Peter Van Dijck  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On 2/21/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote: Most have agreed, we need to have systems in place to bubble up video. My 2c: bubbling popular stuff up is stupid. It's about what YOU want to see, and MOST of the time, that's *not* popular stuff. If it was, you would be satisfied gazing at the various youtube/yahoo/aol/mtv.. video pages. Hey, if it was, you'd watch tv for god sake!
 Forget about bubbling up popular stuff. We haven't nailed finding video you want to watch, but it's worth trying. It's about what communities recommend to each other. It's about your friends. It's about your interests. At least shoot for something better than bubbling stuff up.
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Re: [videoblogging] Apple ditching its OS and going to Windows???

2006-02-22 Thread Richard Show



I've started listening to pod casts very morning while walking on our exercise thingy, and I've really gotten addicted to this week in tech, in that I find it really entertaining, and John C. Dvorak is the most entertaining of all of them (to my warped mind).
He doesn't take himself very seriously and enjoys saying stuff like this and you'll see in the article he does have some interesting reasons for coming to this conclusion, though I don't anyone thinks they're too logical.
The most entertaining thing about this whole discusion on twit was that the other panelists gave him all sorts of shit about how stupid the idea was too Richard (always looking for geek entertanment)
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This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.Dvorak started this rumor.http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1923151,00.asp

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Scary, I am afraid though if this happens I will dump my computer and go and live in the woods.Can't they devolop a virus to wipe out Windows for good. It's slow buggy and a pile of plop. Apple is how a computer should be, easy.
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[videoblogging] Re: The UnholyKnight takes on its first larger project

2006-02-22 Thread Susan
That was great!  At the beginning, I'd like to see a bit of a
wide-angle shot, to help me feel how big the whole room is, and
where everything is placed, before we begin to explore... the panning
part kind of made me feel like I was on a three year old's sit and
spin (for those of you who remember that toy lol)

All constructive criticism.  Great stuff, man.
Susan
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 world all I had were some films I had made which were the best part of
 the website...
 
 Peach Tea, Peach Tea 2, and Aluminum Chef, the 3 Motion Picture Mafia
 Independent Film releases.
 
 And aside from that my videoblog was rather... empty, entertaining,
 but lacking from my point of view.
 
 I finally have something I believe is worth noting, so if you've
 stopped by before and never bothered to come back, stop by again for a
 series I just started today.  Dorms, a miniseries I am doing
 (Hopefully 10-15 episodes, so far looks like 6 or 7) that is covering
 Dorm rooms of students on campus and how they live out their on campus
 lives.  It's a bit of a parody (or maybe a big parody) on cribs, but
 nothing is scripted or created for the posts, it's all what was there
 when I showed up, all the messes, or possible cleanliness I may come
 across.
 
 Give it a try, I'd like some feedback either via comments on the post
 (easiest for me to find) or through a reply to this thread.  Thanks
 goes to all those who have given me a lot of help / support since I
 started vlogging.
 
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 click on Video Blog on the main page.  
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Apple ditching its OS and going to Windows???

2006-02-22 Thread Enric
I remember when Davorak was writing numerous articles on how wonderful
and superior OS2 was.

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 exercise thingy, and I've really gotten addicted to this week in
tech, in
 that I find it really entertaining, and John C. Dvorak is the most
 entertaining of all of them (to my warped mind).
 
 He doesn't take himself very seriously and enjoys saying stuff like
this and
 you'll see in the article he does have some interesting reasons for
coming
 to this conclusion, though I don't anyone thinks they're too logical.
 
 The most entertaining thing about this whole discusion on twit was
that the
 other panelists gave him all sorts of shit about how stupid the idea was
 too.
 
 ... Richard (always looking for geek entertanment)
 
 On 2/22/06, T. Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
 
  Dvorak started this rumor.
  http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1923151,00.asp
 
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   Scary, I am afraid though if this happens I will dump my
computer and go
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   Can't they devolop a virus to wipe out Windows for good.  It's slow
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Apple ditching its OS and going to Windows???

2006-02-22 Thread Harold Johnson



Dvorak seems to be the Tabloid of tech news, doesn't he?
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:21:27 +0100, Joshua Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think there is a great opportunity for the aggregators to use
 Bayesian-type filtering (think email spam filters) to help gather
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 Right now I have 373 unwatched videos in FireAnt. If it had a way to
 learn what I like, it could then bubble up the videos I want to
 watch.

Not knowing much about bayenesian filtering, but... Wouldn't a system like  
that just feed you more and more of the same stuff? And thus not giving me  
the videos I want to watch but videos almost like the ones I watched  
yesterday (those are usually different).

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: strange footage request

2006-02-22 Thread duncan



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This reminds me of the old 1960s black-and-white the goat is dead
movies they used to show us to demonstrate the effects of mustard gas
and other agents on soldiers.who showed you that stuff!?? it's interesting how much of the input to this request (but much thanks for it though !) has been of the quite ..erm.. extreme variety. 
the artist recently filmed a cockerel being 'killed humanely' (always an interesting word combination) on a local farm. funny how little documentation there seems to be of the regular animal deaths that happen all the time on working farms.
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[videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?

2006-02-22 Thread Chuck Olsen

It's absolutely a good idea to make your own music, or find/buy
royalty-free podsafe music. If you do anything else, you're taking
a risk. But also keep in mind, the boundaries of Fair Use have not
been fully tested in court. I sometimes choose to take the risk
on my non-commercial personal vlog, crediting the artist, rather
than inhibit my creativity. No cease-and-desists, so far.

The perfect example of a potentially legitimate use of copyrighted
music is Zadi's When September Ends video, which was written
about in the NY Times Critic's Notebook:

http://smashface.com/vlog/20050924nytimes.html

Then of course there's my Welcome to the Future video
which deals with this whole clash between copyright and our
desire to capture, share, remix:

http://blogumentary.typepad.com/vlog/2005/03/videoblog_week__2.html

Keep in mind Zadi and I could hear from record company lawyers.
Maybe we could get the EFF to defend, but more likely it's 
easier to simply remove the video. Worst case scenario would be
having to pay a fine, if the RIAA charges we're illiegally distributing
music. That would suck.

-chuck
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: strange footage request

2006-02-22 Thread Stephanie Bryant



Most people would probably balk at videoing the death of a family pet-- perhaps the least disturbing animal deaths you might encounter. I know I didn't video my cat's passing, and it happened literally hours after I went to a Meet the Vloggers event in SF.
I recently missed an opportunity to videoblog a friend slaughtering (humanely and with great respect) the chickens she and her family raised this winter. Sadly, I had to make a choice between that and another event long-since planned.
--StephanieOn 2/22/06, duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
who showed you that stuff!?? it's interesting how much of the input to this request (but much thanks for it though !) has been of the quite ..erm.. extreme variety. 
the artist recently filmed a cockerel being 'killed humanely' (always an interesting word combination) on a local farm. funny how little documentation there seems to be of the regular animal deaths that happen all the time on working farms.
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[videoblogging] wordpress feeds questions

2006-02-22 Thread Richard Show



I am setting up a vlog with wordpress and I notice that, by default, it has a feed that says rss 2.1) Are the feeds that are generated automatically with wordpress 2.0 with enclosures?2) If not, can I just do the feedburner thing ... (submit the url for the wordpress feed to feedburner?)
3) Even if the wordpress feed is 2.0 with enclosures would I be better off to submit the url to feedburner anyway, since, with feedburner, if the feed adress ever changes I can just change it in feedburner and people subscribed to my feedburner feed will still be subscribed?
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[videoblogging] Re: wordpress feeds questions

2006-02-22 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am setting up a vlog with wordpress and I notice that, by default,
it has
 a feed that says rss 2.
 
 1) Are the feeds that are generated automatically with wordpress 2.0
with
 enclosures?
 2) If not, can I just do the feedburner thing ... (submit the url
for the
 wordpress feed to feedburner?)
 3) Even if the wordpress feed is 2.0 with enclosures would I be
better off
 to submit the url to feedburner anyway, since, with feedburner, if
the feed
 adress ever changes I can just change it in feedburner and people
subscribed
 to my feedburner feed will still be subscribed?
 
 ... I hope some of that makes sense enough that the questions can be
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Re: [videoblogging] wordpress feeds questions

2006-02-22 Thread Adrian Miles
around the 22/2/06 Richard Show mentioned about [videoblogging] 
wordpress feeds questions that:
3) Even if the wordpress feed is 2.0 with enclosures would I be 
better off to submit the url to feedburner anyway, since, with 
feedburner, if the feed adress ever changes I can just change it in 
feedburner and people subscribed to my feedburner feed will still be 
subscribed?

yep, and in the past the auto enclosure in WP was a pain (might be fixed now).
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[videoblogging] Re: Anthology Film Archive Vlog Program in NYC Wednesday

2006-02-22 Thread jonny goldstein
I'm out of town for this one. Have a great screening!

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[videoblogging] how to make a feed page redirect to feedburner?

2006-02-22 Thread Richard Show



... first ... thanks!... second, I changed the subject, because I would really like to know about this redirect thing, since it helps feed my illusion of permanence ... belowOn 2/22/06, 
Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3.) I say yes - and do that for the wordpress vlogs that I have. There is also some redirect thing that you can do so that you can use feedburner without using the feedburner address so that in case you decided to drop feedburner you could do so without messing up your feed (how's that for a long sentence?). I don't know how this works but I know that Clint Sharp knows.
... second ... I would like to know aobut this last thing, I'm assuming it would be something like... mydomain.com/feed ... and that page would automatically go to feedburner ... which would use the wordpress feed to make a good 
2.0 enclosures feed... there would be something on mydomain.com/feed that would make it go to the feedburner address - something in the html header perhaps? that simple?
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Re: [videoblogging] wordpress feeds questions

2006-02-22 Thread Arnþór Snær
Wordpress still seems to have issues with putting some video filetypes
in enclosures.

A plugin called Podpress promises to fix that, but i havent tried it.

To have the video link in the enclosures, i add a custom field when
posting, called enclosure and include the link and the bytesize of
the video.


I thought at first feedburner would take care of this for me when it
picked up the wordpress feed but no.

-A

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  3) Even if the wordpress feed is 2.0 with enclosures would I be
  better off to submit the url to feedburner anyway, since, with
  feedburner, if the feed adress ever changes I can just change it in
  feedburner and people subscribed to my feedburner feed will still be
  subscribed?

  yep, and in the past the auto enclosure in WP was a pain (might be fixed
 now).
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[videoblogging] Re: OTG video kit

2006-02-22 Thread Dan R
I'd include a telescoping pole like this one instead of a tripod and 
use it as a steady stick or for elevated shots:
  http://www.afsweb.com/Resources/shopping.aspx
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Re: [videoblogging] example of video in business

2006-02-22 Thread Jay dedman
   exactly - bit off topic maybe but I've started recording little 
 video messages to my mum (she lives in another country) and sending her those 
 instead of emails. she loves them! another branch of videoblogging? I call 
 them snakkemail (talkmail in norwegian) and she loves receiving them.

this is cool.
would it be better to send her links to a blog post so the videos get archived?
or is it cool that you email them and then their gone?
(im a lover of archives)

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Re: [videoblogging] YouTube Smacks Down AskANinja.com

2006-02-22 Thread Jay dedman
On 2/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Crossposted at: 
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 Last week YouTube.com got the smack down from NBC for hosting the Lazy Sunday 
 sketch from SNL.
 Today AskANinja.com got these emails from YouTube:
 Your video Ask A Ninja: Question 10 Ninja Metal has been rejected due to 
 its inappropriate nature. Please refer to our  terms and conditions for more 
 information on what video material is not permitted on YouTube.


I bet that YouTube knows its about to get slammed with a huge lawsuit
for propogating commercial video that they have no rights to.
They are probably blindly taking down everything they can to prove
that they are abiding by the law.
I bet its pretty arbitrary.
some girl who's in the middle of her 3rd latte is scrolling through
the videos...trying ti figure out whats what.

i wonder if we'll still keep seeing commercial video on YouTube ...or
just non-NBC stuff.

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Re: [videoblogging] wordpress feeds questions

2006-02-22 Thread T . Whid
Two things:

1) good instructions on how to use feedburner with a url on your own domain:
http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2005/04/20/feedburning.html

2) wordpress will only pick up enclosures if the mime type is being
sent correctly from the server. In other words, if you're using a m4v
or mp4 the server might not be set-up correctly. You can fix this if
you can use .htaccess files on your video server.

hope this helps


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 Wordpress still seems to have issues with putting some video filetypes
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 A plugin called Podpress promises to fix that, but i havent tried it.

 To have the video link in the enclosures, i add a custom field when
 posting, called enclosure and include the link and the bytesize of
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 picked up the wordpress feed but no.

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Re: [videoblogging] how to make a feed page redirect to feedburner?

2006-02-22 Thread T . Whid



I posted this to the original thread but here it is again:.htaccess method to redirect to feedburner from your own domain:http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2005/04/20/feedburning.html
On 2/22/06, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



... first ... thanks!... second, I changed the subject, because I would really like to know about this redirect thing, since it helps feed my illusion of permanence ... below
On 2/22/06, 
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3.) I say yes - and do that for the wordpress vlogs that I have. There is also some redirect thing that you can do so that you can use feedburner without using the feedburner address so that in case you decided to drop feedburner you could do so without messing up your feed (how's that for a long sentence?). I don't know how this works but I know that Clint Sharp knows.
... second ... I would like to know aobut this last thing, I'm assuming it would be something like... 
mydomain.com/feed ... and that page would automatically go to feedburner ... which would use the wordpress feed to make a good 
2.0 enclosures feed... there would be something on mydomain.com/feed that would make it go to the feedburner address - something in the html header perhaps? that simple?

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Re: [videoblogging] how to make a feed page redirect to feedburner?

2006-02-22 Thread Richard Show



thanks alot!On 2/22/06, T. Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I posted this to the original thread but here it is again:.htaccess method to redirect to feedburner from your own domain:
http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2005/04/20/feedburning.html
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... first ... thanks!... second, I changed the subject, because I would really like to know about this redirect thing, since it helps feed my illusion of permanence ... below

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3.) I say yes - and do that for the wordpress vlogs that I have. There is also some redirect thing that you can do so that you can use feedburner without using the feedburner address so that in case you decided to drop feedburner you could do so without messing up your feed (how's that for a long sentence?). I don't know how this works but I know that Clint Sharp knows.
... second ... I would like to know aobut this last thing, I'm assuming it would be something like... 

mydomain.com/feed ... and that page would automatically go to feedburner ... which would use the wordpress feed to make a good 
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Re: [videoblogging] example of video in business

2006-02-22 Thread Devlon



I love the archive aspect of videoblogging also. That's the big reason for doing it in my books. I can burn cd/dvd archives and bores my grandchildren with them.On 2/22/06, 
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 exactly - bit off topic maybe but I've started recording little video messages to my mum (she lives in another country) and sending her those instead of emails. she loves them! another branch of videoblogging? I call them snakkemail (talkmail in norwegian) and she loves receiving them.


this is cool.
would it be better to send her links to a blog post so the videos get archived?
or is it cool that you email them and then their gone?
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Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Media Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Daniel Hehmann



Personally, I don't see why Four Eyed Monsters wouldn't be considered a vlog. While the central theme may be the film, the focus is clearly on the filmmakers themselves, That is the primary difference between FEM and other film-based vidcasts such as Kite Circuit, or what's going on for Clerks 2 and Superman Returns and so forth. While those all focus on the technical aspects, and giving a behind the scenes look at the creation of a film, FEM focuses on the relationship between two filmmakers and their journey getting their film out there.I also think it's unfair to pass what they're doing off as nothing but promotion for their film either. I have no ambition to watch the trailer for King Kong, because I've already seen the film itself. I've seen FEM the film twice, and I still follow their vlog religiously. The original poster was absolutely right in saying that if anything, the film and the vlog compliment each other, and create something greater than the sum of its parts.
 That's the true appeal of the film and vlog in the first place, so I really don't think it matters what you label it. The film takes the best aspects of documentaries, fiction, dramatization, music, and a subjective point of view to create something we haven't seen before. Watching the film, there is no way to pigeonhole it into a specific genre, because it encompasses a little of everything. It's a narrative, based on real people, involving a script and filmed scenes, and shown through the eyes of the filmmakers. One thing I do know, is that if it weren't for their vlog, I wouldn't even know about vlogs in the first place. It's through following theirs that I came upon the vlogs of the people in the group. I didn't go from watching FEM to looking for shows and serials or whatever, I looked for other vlogs. For people to sit here and say that FEM shouldn't be considered a blog is foolish, and is only going to hurt by pushing away people like myself, instead of
 gaining from what FEM is doing. -DannyRichard BF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Old timers on this list are gonna love me bringing this up again.  Newbies are probably going to love me even more for disturbing the  mainstream media lovefest which seems to have taken over this email  list in the past few months.  I received some offlist emails about my Four Eyed Monsters post,  which I really think should be reposted here, as they had much more  information about the project, and offerred an alternate view to my  naive opinions. If you emailed me, please CC it here, it will be  interesting for others to read.  But the question it poses is yet again, what is this list for?  The simple answer is to help out new videobloggers. Which again begs  the question
 ducking what is videoblogging? /ducking  In recent months, reading this list you would be fooled into thinking  that videblogging means video on the Internet. We have countless  "videoblog directories" which simply aggregate RSS enclosures, we  have "videoblog aggregators" which simply play video over the  Internet, we have "videoblog hosting providers" which simply host  video on the Internet, we have "videoblog shows" which are simply  amateur TV series hosted on the Internet... the list goes on.  Videoblog is a buzzword that most people seem to use to describe  anything with video and the Internet.  Others, like me, think it is more about the personal and all that it  entails. So the gap between these opinions is still, after 18 months,  enormous.  The point of the recent Four Eyed Monsters discussion seems to have  been "how to use the Internet to promote your more traditional film",  which
 I'd argue has jack to do with this list.  On the vlogtheory list, arguably whose main job is to define  videoblogging, we've basically given up discussing the definition,  because nobody will change their mind about what they think a  videoblog is. It's like walking into a party where everyone has their  arms crossed and nobody is talking.  Michael's Vlog Anarchy video was a great bird flip to definition, but  this list is now a perfect example of why videoblogging needs to be  defined, otherwise perhaps the list should be renamed from  videoblogging@yahoogroups.com to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  What do you think?  I'm especially interested in the new members' opinions, as they  probably haven't had a lot of the citizen media, fuck big media  rhetoric we used to go on about here a year ago, but now tend to no  longer bother about.  Regards,  Richard SPONSORED LINKS   Individual   Fireant   Use  

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[videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Vlogsters

2006-02-22 Thread Richard BF
Lot's to reply to, but just a quick follow up. I did say this in my 
post, but maybe I wasn't clear.

I am tired of this effort to define what a vlog is and what a vlog isnt.
When it all comes down to it, they (whatever they are) are just our
own websites with whatever content we want on them. Be it video or
words or photos.

The main reason I brought it up, and one of the many reasons why it 
is important to have some kind of definition, is because the name of 
this group is videoblogging.

Not internetvideo, not blogswithvideo but videoblogging.

Here's the full extent of the group's mission statement:

Welcome to the discussion list for beginning videobloggers and everyone else.

While I appreciate that no definition opens it up to the widest 
audience, it also means that for example, a hollywood filmmaker with 
a trailer posted on a web site, can come here and think they are 
videoblogging. They're entitled to their opinion sure, but the 
problem is where the moderators for this group draw the line on 
discussion topics.

That's my point. What is on topic here? And that depends absolutely 
on what videoblogging means.

Regards,
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Re: [videoblogging] how to make a feed page redirect to feedburner?

2006-02-22 Thread Clint Sharp



If you have any problems, let me know Richard. I have done this
with my feed and I'll be happy to help you out if you need it.

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[videoblogging] It's been awhile but I'm back finally!!!

2006-02-22 Thread Lynn Lane


Hey everyone...I'm sure that there are a ton of new faces on here and many may have forgotten who I am because it has been quite awhile since I posted or even worked on my blog. Well, I finally wrapped up some projects that I was doing. I helped a friend get his record label off of the ground and decided that I really couldn't be a business partner in it as it took too much away from my filmmaking and I'm deeply involved in a few projects. Since making that decision, I have found myself in 2 new doc projects and am back on my Vlog. I'll be launching my new online project: Vlogumentarian.com in the next 2 weeks! FINALLY Okay, I've purged now and I really just wanted to give big hello to all of you out there in the blogosphere and I've missed you all! Lynn Lane Coal River Pictureswebsite: www.CoalRiverPictures.comemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]MySpace Page:http://myspace.com/lynnlaneVlogs:"Docmaker on the Go"vlog: http://docmaker.blogspot.comfeed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/docmakerComing Soon:www.Vlogumentarian.comwww.VlogReporter.comAIVF/IDARing 8 (Boxing Organization) MemberMarshall Chess Club MemberNYC 




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Anthology Film Archive Vlog Program in NYC Wednesday

2006-02-22 Thread filmmaker_lynn
I wish I would have read this earlier, I would definitely have been
there. I've been away for awhile but like I said in my previous email.
I'm back and miss these events!

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Kunga
Excellent. Yes, we are all gifts from God. But there are some here  
who don't get that. Awesome report JV. Lucky you to have direct  
contact with the FEM creators. I just plain LOVE THEM.
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On Feb 21, 2006, at 11:22 AM, JV wrote:

 Aren't we all gifts from god?

 Seriously though, their project is very interesting. We met them in
 Park City and were really impressed with them from the discussions we
 had. They really do get 'it'. (check out the interview here -
 http://labs.divx.com/node/108)

 They are pretty unique and very dedicated. They are using digital
 media , like many people on this forum, in new ways to an uncertain
 end. Also, like everyone here, they are very passionate (maybe not as
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Kunga
Yes you are right.
I was given JOY.
I was given INSPIRATION.
I was given ENTERTAINMENT.
I was given LOVE.
I was given HOPE.
I was given IMAGINATION.
I was given HUMILITY.

All of this was given to me by a pair of youngsters from Brooklyn out  
of the goodness of their innocent hearts. A pair who i LOVE.
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On Feb 21, 2006, at 5:26 PM, David Howell wrote:

 The way you shot your load over this non-vlog, it sure sounds like you
 were given something for posting this.

 David
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Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Kunga
I think you need to take a step back and embrace the totality of all  
media and realize there is no us and them and know that all media are  
complementary and coexistent. In my mind, their video blog is not  
promoting anything at all. It simply IS and stands alone as great art  
and communication.
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On Feb 21, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Steve Garfield wrote:

 I think they need to take a step back and embrace the new media a  
 bit better, instead of using the online medium essentially to  
 promote an offline product.

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Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Futurecasters

2006-02-22 Thread Richard BF
I'll save Steve a response. You've quoted him out of context, as he 
was just quoting me.

Feel free to lay it on me now as well...


At 22:55 -0800 22/2/06, Kunga wrote:
I think you need to take a step back and embrace the totality of all 
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complementary and coexistent. In my mind, their video blog is not 
promoting anything at all. It simply IS and stands alone as great art 
and communication.
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On Feb 21, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Steve Garfield wrote:

  I think they need to take a step back and embrace the new media a 
  bit better, instead of using the online medium essentially to 
  promote an offline product.

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[videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed PersonalVloggers

2006-02-22 Thread Enric
Couldn't resist.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard BF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'll save Steve a response. You've quoted him out of context, as he 
 was just quoting me.
 
 Feel free to lay it on me now as well...
 
 
 At 22:55 -0800 22/2/06, Kunga wrote:
 I think you need to take a step back and embrace the totality of all 
 media and realize there is no us and them and know that all media are 
 complementary and coexistent. In my mind, their video blog is not 
 promoting anything at all. It simply IS and stands alone as great art 
 and communication.
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 On Feb 21, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Steve Garfield wrote:
 
   I think they need to take a step back and embrace the new media a 
   bit better, instead of using the online medium essentially to 
   promote an offline product.
 
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[videoblogging] Re: YouTube Smacks Down AskANinja.com

2006-02-22 Thread Eric Rice
I'm personally offering sponsorship to AskANinja of an Audioblog.com 
account--not just 
because they can have flash AND *casting happen on their OWN site, but because 
things 
like this make me twitchy.

It's out there guys! Holla!

Cheers,

ER

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unmetered-bandwidth-videoblogging-stuff-around-but-you-wouldn't-know-it-from-
the-audio-in-our-name

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 Crossposted at:
 http://askaninja.blogspot.com/2006/02/youtube-smacks-down-ninja.html
 
 Last week YouTube.com got the smack down from NBC for hosting the Lazy
 Sunday sketch from SNL.
 
 Today AskANinja.com got these emails from YouTube:
 
 Your video Ask A Ninja: Question 10 Ninja Metal has been rejected due to
 its inappropriate nature. Please refer to our terms and
 conditionshttp://www.youtube.com/t/termsfor more information on what
 video material is not permitted on YouTube.
 
 
 Followed by:
 
 Dear Subscriber:
 
 
  This is to notify you that we have removed or disabled access to on or
  more of your videos as a result of a third-party notification claiming
  that this material is infringing.
 
  If you elect to send us a counter notice, to be effective it must be a
  written communication provided to our designated agent that includes
  substantially the following (please consult your legal counsel or see 17
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  (A) A physical or electronic signature of the subscriber.
 
  (B) Identification of the material that has been removed or to which
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  mistake or misidentification of the material to be removed or disabled.
 
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  for any judicial district in which the service provider may be found,
  and that the subscriber will accept service of process from the person
  who provided notification under subsection (c)(1)(C) or an agent of such
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  Please note that under Section 512(f) of the Copyright Act, any person
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  liability.  Please also be advised that we enforce a policy that
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 A couple of things, we are the creators of the Ask A Ninja, we were (and
 still are) using their site to host the Flash Video versions of our work.
 It's odd that we can just be arbitrarily cut off from our audience of over
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 Not to worry, we're already in the works on building a site to host our own
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Kunga
Thank you Steve. Better be prepared for standing room only. These are  
true celebrities.
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On Feb 22, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Steve Garfield wrote:

 Hi JV,

 I just scheduled them for the next Node101/Boston Media Makers Meeting
 on March 5th.

 Arin Crumley and Susan Buice of the film Four Eyed Monsters,
 http://www.foureyedmonsters.com/ , are going to come and talk about
 making better videos.  They are also going to talk about their
 experiences with MySpace.

 Arin and Susan are also interested having a conversation with us about
 where we think this is all going.

 http://www.feevlog.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17



 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Four Eyed Monsters

2006-02-22 Thread Ted Tagami



I'm slightly off on a tangent...but here's an idea:


Arin and Susan, if you are reading this, come on out to Vloggercon in SF! 

We can create something akin to a flash mob. 

If I am not mistaken, FEM is looking to get enough people to vote for a
zip code to show their film. Now just supposing we dynamically
registered a SF zip with each Vloggercon attendee?! We could have a
Thurs or Fri night showing of their film in a theater!

Wouldn't that be sumthin'


On 2/22/06, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hi JV,

I just scheduled them for the next Node101/Boston Media Makers Meeting 
on March 5th.

Arin Crumley and Susan Buice of the film Four Eyed Monsters, 
http://www.foureyedmonsters.com/ , are going to come and talk about 
making better videos. They are also going to talk about their 
experiences with MySpace.

Arin and Susan are also interested having a conversation with us about 
where we think this is all going.

http://www.feevlog.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17


On Feb 21, 2006, at 9:33 PM, JV wrote:

 Steve, you should get in touch with them. I think they are up in your
 neck of the woods now ( at susan's parent's house). Maybe an interview
 about what myspace film means and whether they see their podcasts as
 primarily promotion for their offline product or if they see it in a
 different light. They are really nice and well spoken, if a little
 busy at times.

--Steve
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[videoblogging] Re: YouTube Smacks Down AskANinja.com

2006-02-22 Thread Enric
Great, Eric.  I really like what he's done with AskANinja and think
the support is appropriate.

  -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm personally offering sponsorship to AskANinja of an Audioblog.com
account--not just 
 because they can have flash AND *casting happen on their OWN site,
but because things 
 like this make me twitchy.
 
 It's out there guys! Holla!
 
 Cheers,
 
 ER
 
 ericrice.com | slackstreet entertainment

audioblog.com-soon-to-be-renamed-since-we-offer-the-most-butt-kickingest-

unmetered-bandwidth-videoblogging-stuff-around-but-you-wouldn't-know-it-from-
 the-audio-in-our-name
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, digitalfilmmaker@ wrote:
 
  Crossposted at:
  http://askaninja.blogspot.com/2006/02/youtube-smacks-down-ninja.html
  
  Last week YouTube.com got the smack down from NBC for hosting the Lazy
  Sunday sketch from SNL.
  
  Today AskANinja.com got these emails from YouTube:
  
  Your video Ask A Ninja: Question 10 Ninja Metal has been
rejected due to
  its inappropriate nature. Please refer to our terms and
  conditionshttp://www.youtube.com/t/termsfor more information on what
  video material is not permitted on YouTube.
  
  
  Followed by:
  
  Dear Subscriber:
  
  
   This is to notify you that we have removed or disabled access to
on or
   more of your videos as a result of a third-party notification
claiming
   that this material is infringing.
  
   If you elect to send us a counter notice, to be effective it
must be a
   written communication provided to our designated agent that includes
   substantially the following (please consult your legal counsel
or see 17
   U.S.C. Section 512(g)(3) to confirm these requirements):
  
   (A) A physical or electronic signature of the subscriber.
  
   (B) Identification of the material that has been removed or to which
   access has been disabled and the location at which the material
appeared
   before it was removed or access to it was disabled.
  
   (C) A statement under penalty of perjury that the subscriber has
a good
   faith belief that the material was removed or disabled as a
result of
   mistake or misidentification of the material to be removed or
disabled.
  
   (D) The subscriberÂ's name, address, and telephone number, and a
   statement that the subscriber consents to the jurisdiction of
Federal
   District Court for the judicial district in which the address is
   located, or if the subscriberÂ's address is outside of the
United States,
   for any judicial district in which the service provider may be
found,
   and that the subscriber will accept service of process from the
person
   who provided notification under subsection (c)(1)(C) or an agent
of such
   person.
  
  
   Such written notice should be sent to our designated agent as
follows:
  
   Copyright Agent
   YouTube, Inc.
   PO Box 2053
   San Mateo, CA 94401
  
   Email:  copyright@
  
   Please note that under Section 512(f) of the Copyright Act, any
person
   who knowingly materially misrepresents that material or activity was
   removed or disabled by mistake or misidentification may be
subject to
   liability.  Please also be advised that we enforce a policy that
   provides for the termination in appropriate circumstances of
subscribers
   who are repeat infringers.
  
  
   Very truly yours,
  
  
   Heather
   YouTube, Inc
  
  
  A couple of things, we are the creators of the Ask A Ninja, we
were (and
  still are) using their site to host the Flash Video versions of
our work.
  It's odd that we can just be arbitrarily cut off from our audience
of over
  280,000 viewers on the YouTube.com site.
  
  Not to worry, we're already in the works on building a site to
host our own
  Flash files, but if the content creators can't post their files at
YouTube,
  and copyright violators can't either, who is going to be allowed
to post
  their videos?
  
  -Kent
 








 
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