[videoblogging] Re: re:Casey's thread: Dan McVicar, AFTRA, and independent producers
I remember when I got out of College with a Film degree and called the local Projectionist union. The woman there, hearing how young my voice sounded, basically said how dare I call for information. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you say seems ok, but what happens if Google/YouTube, Blip or the other online distribution places sign agreements with the unions that could eventually push out non-union and non-commercial productions? Currently we have the choice to say Bugger off, I don't need you. If the online distribution joints are collecting revenue and braking off a piece for the union wouldn't the unions at some point force or make it known that they would prefer union talent in as many web based productions as possible? I don't know how to say this correctly but theoretically the union could tell you (Actor McVicar) to stop your production because you (Producer/Vlogger) are not paying union dues as an actor. It goes back to the question what is going to be considered a professional production? Is a one person vlogger exempt but if you have three or more working together that makes it a production company? This could set the precedent that allows the other entertainment unions jump in. I have too many questions about this. Gut feeling it seems like a creativity killer in the making. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, danielmcvicar danielmcvicar@ wrote: Hi Everybody, I've been a member of SAG and AFTRA for decades, and sometimes serve on committees in preparing for negotiation. It is my observation that this is a new area for unions, producers, performers and distributors of media. The business models are being disrupted. The union has always been there to protect performers from abusive work conditions, to improve pay and conditions, and has also taken the responsibility for insuring performers. Regarding net video, the union doesn't know what to do yet. There are some plans in place that allow producers of net video to be brought in under AFTRA rules that are not very expensive. They would be similar to lowbudget film deals. Really, it is at what point does the video become professional, and is distributed in a way that makes money. You may always operate outside the union, if you are an independent producer, but there may be limitations in using union members or in distributing videos through union signatories. That is the same in preexisting video and film formats. There are more shared points that the union would have with producers and distributors of content. One in particular is piracy, and the violation of copyright. I have suggested that in the coming negotiation with the networks and producers for the AFTRA contract, that the performer and union retain their right to sue Youtube or another entity that profited illegally from their work and image. This would be an adjustment in language, because the current release transfers copyright to the producer, and it is the producer's responsibility to seek damages. Without drilling down into more specifics, I would like to say that a union can serve performers, creators and producers well. It is the loss of revenue from work that is the biggest threat to all. Just ask people in the music industry. Perhaps there will be an adaptation of the unions to include small producers who perform and create, and the rights for all can be protected. I don't think there is a way to bully anyone out of the sphere now. Not as long as there are video cameras, and places to post videos. What they can do is to help the performer and creator earn some revenue from the further distribution of their work in digital formats, and recover part of that revenue stream be it in paid download, or on a site or format that includes advertising. Ciao! D --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: Wel I am a fan of unions in general. I just think there will be some growing pains if they try to apply this stuff to net video prematurely, especially as there is currently so much hype about internet video $$ which doesnt match the reality for most. So I do look forward to the day when unions get in the way of someone exploiting people whilst making lots of money, but do not look forward to the day that some small player with no money gets bullied out of this sphere by unions. Cheers Steve Elbow --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin jannie.jan@ wrote: Is this a 'problem' for indie talent and technician? Or a blessing? Health insurance, retirement benefits, fiscal protections from abuse, etc? There either will or will not come a time when the things you produce are popular enough to sustain
Re: [videoblogging] My short film turned epic - how do I get it out there?
You published Mike Diana?!!!? Cool! Been in the same 'zine w/him - http://11211magazine.com That makes you a-okay in my book. Whoo-whoo! Put the vid up @ Google video, Veoh (you can drag your feed into Veoh and from Veoh to a bunch of other spots, too, that Blip may not cover in their cross-posting options). One of the things they teach in screenwriting / writing classes is to make folks empathize with the characters early on. This piece certainly serves as an empathetic intro to our road-tripping characters. Best, Jan On 10/21/07, amy_bugbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, So I started to make a short intro for my husband and I on our upcoming trip A YEAR AT THE WHEEL, but the thing turned into a 24 minut epic, any ideas on how to get such a lengthy video out there? Let me know. Thanks, Amy If you have the popcorn and the inkling: See SHUNNED the Movie: a href=http://www.ayearatthewheel.com/page8/ index.htmlhttp://www.ayearatthewheel.com/page8/index.html/a Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: re:Casey's thread: Dan McVicar, AFTRA, and independent producers
Hey, Gena, I don't think media hosts like Blip would be on the unions' radar. It's the techies and talent they rep. Were Blip 'producers' of content, that might be another story. Production companies are the entities who pay techies and talent. They are 'signatories' with unions, and agree contractually to play by union rules. Unless you want to use someone like Dan (who's in the union) in one of your productions, you won't have a problem. As Dan has said, SAG has contracts that allow union actors to work on extremely low budget experimental and student films that are actually doable for small production companies. As far as I know, IATSE doesn't. Let's say you have a production company that's making a lot of episodes and lots of money, and shooting in very public spots in very union cities. There's a chance that you would come up as a blip (couldn't resist) on the union radar. The union might then approach you to become a signatory, to 'organize' your shoot. Unions have come on to independent film sets and organized them. At that point, talent and techies on the project are offered the chance to join the union. If the crew agrees to be organized, the production company kinda has to go along for the ride or shut down or re-crew. IATSE Local 52 dues are $250 annually, plus a small percentage of every dollar you make is deducted like FICA from each paycheck. It did cost a bit for the initiation ($2,400 in 1996 if I recall correctly). Production companies are responsible to make that % deduction and turn that money over to the union. In addition, production companies contribute X dollars per day (or hour, depending on the type of contract), from their pockets toward health and pension benefits. If you're not making any money or using union techies / talent, I wouldn't worry. Union folks occasionally work for free on small projects for friends and friends of friends, but it's frowned upon. As Enric notes, union reps are not that receptive to potential new members - especially when there's not a lot of work - and require some hoop jumping, including but not limited to extreme perseverance (translation: groveling). Outta time and brainspace to think about this just now. Later, J On 10/21/07, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you say seems ok, but what happens if Google/YouTube, Blip or the other online distribution places sign agreements with the unions that could eventually push out non-union and non-commercial productions? Currently we have the choice to say Bugger off, I don't need you. If the online distribution joints are collecting revenue and braking off a piece for the union wouldn't the unions at some point force or make it known that they would prefer union talent in as many web based productions as possible? I don't know how to say this correctly but theoretically the union could tell you (Actor McVicar) to stop your production because you (Producer/Vlogger) are not paying union dues as an actor. It goes back to the question what is going to be considered a professional production? Is a one person vlogger exempt but if you have three or more working together that makes it a production company? This could set the precedent that allows the other entertainment unions jump in. I have too many questions about this. Gut feeling it seems like a creativity killer in the making. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, danielmcvicar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everybody, I've been a member of SAG and AFTRA for decades, and sometimes serve on committees in preparing for negotiation. It is my observation that this is a new area for unions, producers, performers and distributors of media. The business models are being disrupted. The union has always been there to protect performers from abusive work conditions, to improve pay and conditions, and has also taken the responsibility for insuring performers. Regarding net video, the union doesn't know what to do yet. There are some plans in place that allow producers of net video to be brought in under AFTRA rules that are not very expensive. They would be similar to lowbudget film deals. Really, it is at what point does the video become professional, and is distributed in a way that makes money. You may always operate outside the union, if you are an independent producer, but there may be limitations in using union members or in distributing videos through union signatories. That is the same in preexisting video and film formats. There are more shared points that the union would have with producers and distributors of content. One in particular is piracy, and the violation of copyright. I have suggested that in the coming negotiation with the networks and producers for the AFTRA contract, that the performer and union retain their right to sue Youtube or another entity that profited illegally from their work and
[videoblogging] Sennheiser MKH-416 P48 Short Shotgun Mic @ Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230183078362 This is a great short shotgun mic - tho the price is a bit high - I've seen 'em go for as little as $400. Know there may be some out there in the market for a good mic; I've got this one tagged @ Ebay for notification of sales. Jan -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: re:Casey's thread: Dan McVicar, AFTRA, and independent producers
What is a professional production company? That's easy, one that is doing it for hire and is getting paid. Vloggers and podcasters that are doing stuff for fun and as a hobby aren't professionals, strictly speaking. Which is not a slight on the quality of their work--but we all know that there are many people in this space that aren't motivated by making money and never will be interested in it. What is at issue here is when companies are hiring people to produce video content for the web (and they will only do that because they believe that there will be some profit in it) then the terms of the contracts can either be negotiated one on one or collectively through a union. Which one do you think will result in the most favorable terms for the most people? Yeah there will always be that top 10% that will always be able to write their own ticket and get anything they want in a contract, but there will also be the ones that will be hired to cover a conference or an event or a beat--and those are the ones that will benefit the most from organizing. In Hollywood and Television most of the stars usually support collective bargaining because many of them benefited from it on their way up, and most of them understand that fame is often fleeting and they may benefit from it again. Unions are hardly perfect, but they're one of the best ways to protect rights and guard against abuse. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you say seems ok, but what happens if Google/YouTube, Blip or the other online distribution places sign agreements with the unions that could eventually push out non-union and non-commercial productions? Currently we have the choice to say Bugger off, I don't need you. If the online distribution joints are collecting revenue and braking off a piece for the union wouldn't the unions at some point force or make it known that they would prefer union talent in as many web based productions as possible? I don't know how to say this correctly but theoretically the union could tell you (Actor McVicar) to stop your production because you (Producer/Vlogger) are not paying union dues as an actor. It goes back to the question what is going to be considered a professional production? Is a one person vlogger exempt but if you have three or more working together that makes it a production company? This could set the precedent that allows the other entertainment unions jump in. I have too many questions about this. Gut feeling it seems like a creativity killer in the making. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, danielmcvicar danielmcvicar@ wrote: Hi Everybody, I've been a member of SAG and AFTRA for decades, and sometimes serve on committees in preparing for negotiation. It is my observation that this is a new area for unions, producers, performers and distributors of media. The business models are being disrupted. The union has always been there to protect performers from abusive work conditions, to improve pay and conditions, and has also taken the responsibility for insuring performers. Regarding net video, the union doesn't know what to do yet. There are some plans in place that allow producers of net video to be brought in under AFTRA rules that are not very expensive. They would be similar to lowbudget film deals. Really, it is at what point does the video become professional, and is distributed in a way that makes money. You may always operate outside the union, if you are an independent producer, but there may be limitations in using union members or in distributing videos through union signatories. That is the same in preexisting video and film formats. There are more shared points that the union would have with producers and distributors of content. One in particular is piracy, and the violation of copyright. I have suggested that in the coming negotiation with the networks and producers for the AFTRA contract, that the performer and union retain their right to sue Youtube or another entity that profited illegally from their work and image. This would be an adjustment in language, because the current release transfers copyright to the producer, and it is the producer's responsibility to seek damages. Without drilling down into more specifics, I would like to say that a union can serve performers, creators and producers well. It is the loss of revenue from work that is the biggest threat to all. Just ask people in the music industry. Perhaps there will be an adaptation of the unions to include small producers who perform and create, and the rights for all can be protected. I don't think there is a way to bully anyone out of the sphere now. Not as long as
[videoblogging] Re: new camera suggestions?
I haven't used it yet - I'm just upgrading to Vegas 8 - from Vegas 7, but the new version of Vegas does support AVCHD, and of course vegas is really fun to use. So I think if I were going go the tapeless route which would be very cool, I would definitely think of Vegas. For some reason, it doesn't get a lot of mention, but if you like a smooth, intuitive, artistic way of working, then it's worth checking out, and of course you can download it and try for 15 days for free. Milt Lee http://hollowbonefilms.com NEUROGENOCIDE - stop the killing
[videoblogging] Re: new camera suggestions?
I use Vegas as well, and can atest that it is pretty easy to use and really nice. It has never crashed on me and it just is great. I hope my next camera will be a tapeless one, hard drive all the way...although, tape does have easy back up advantages that a hard drive version doesn't. Something to consider as well Heath http://batmangeek.com http://mobilevlog.blopspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Milt Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't used it yet - I'm just upgrading to Vegas 8 - from Vegas 7, but the new version of Vegas does support AVCHD, and of course vegas is really fun to use. So I think if I were going go the tapeless route which would be very cool, I would definitely think of Vegas. For some reason, it doesn't get a lot of mention, but if you like a smooth, intuitive, artistic way of working, then it's worth checking out, and of course you can download it and try for 15 days for free. Milt Lee http://hollowbonefilms.com NEUROGENOCIDE - stop the killing
[videoblogging] International Disturbed People's Day
Today is apparently the International Disturbed People's Day and I wanted to wish all vloggers a Happy international disturbed people's day. Cause to be frank most of the vloggers I know are DEEPLY disturbedespecialy Galacticast and Wreck and Salavge, some episodes of Lo-Fi St. Louis, and that really weird bunny wedding of Schlomo's, Bekah's crazy #$%^$# neighbor, Verdi's naked video and.well I am sure you get the idea. Here's to disturbed long may we reign! Heath http://batmangeek.com
[videoblogging] NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
From: http://www.profy.com/2007/10/22/nablopomo/ You may have heard of the seemingly crazy NaNoWriMo, where people sign on to write a novel in the month of November. In response to NaNoWriMo, one blogger decided to have a little fun and create NaBloPoMo - write a blog post a day for the month of November. This year she is already over 1500 participants and counting, all because she tapped into the power of [Ning} to grow her movement. You can see the NaBloPoMo Ning group here: http://nablopomo.ning.com/ I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. Just a thought. Personally, I'll be writing a novel every day in November, so I'll be far too busy for doing something so insane ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
Interesting idea. Sounds insane, but then so does NaNoWriMo and people do that. This envisioned NaVloPoMo wouldn't have to be in November would it? :-) On 10/22/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: http://www.profy.com/2007/10/22/nablopomo/ You may have heard of the seemingly crazy NaNoWriMo, where people sign on to write a novel in the month of November. In response to NaNoWriMo, one blogger decided to have a little fun and create NaBloPoMo - write a blog post a day for the month of November. This year she is already over 1500 participants and counting, all because she tapped into the power of [Ning} to grow her movement. You can see the NaBloPoMo Ning group here: http://nablopomo.ning.com/ I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. Just a thought. Personally, I'll be writing a novel every day in November, so I'll be far too busy for doing something so insane ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
Re: [videoblogging] NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
If I can just use one of those Record In Browser thingies like on The Facebooks or Seesmic, I'm down. The thought of compressing a video every day makes my head (and my computer) hurt!! -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://hatfactory.net AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Human readable contracts
The past year, we've been discussing human-readable contracts and release forms. Jon Phillips from Creative Commons has started a side project that does exactly this: http://www.ownterms.org/ OwnTerms is designed as a repository for boilerplate legal documents: those that every web site, startup, or entrepreneur needs but doesn't want to draft in a lawyer for. Too often, these documents are simply copied and pasted from another site, with references changed where needed — and while the copyright status of legal documents is unclear, the cost and trouble of defending a suit for copyright infringement wouldn't be worth the effort. He's got a wiki that outlines what documents they want to make available: http://ownterms.pbwiki.com/ And a mailing list if you want to participate: http://lists.ownterms.org/listinfo.cgi/discussion-ownterms.org Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
@Schlomo, I immediately thought of you your FB/Seesmic vids. For most people it'd have to be a super low maintenance project, and regular Capture/Editing/Compression times would make it impossible, so a good answer would be to use a Record In Browser option or to upload single one-shot mp4 files generated by digital stills cameras. One of the things that's made Twittervlog possible for me is that my phone outputs finished mp4 files for each shot, and also has the ability to splice those files together in the phone. I email them to Blip and Blip converts to Flash automatically crossposts to my blog. this has massively reduced the time it takes to capture footage to a computer, edit, compress, upload and embed in a blog. Automation and simplicity. @Dave, NaVoPloMo (sounds like a Russian cocktail) wouldn't *have* to be in November, but I think it'd probably benefit from running at the same time as the Novel writing and Blog post writing months, in terms of mutual support exposure. R On 22 Oct 2007, at 18:30, David Meade wrote: Interesting idea. Sounds insane, but then so does NaNoWriMo and people do that. This envisioned NaVloPoMo wouldn't have to be in November would it? :-) On 10/22/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: http://www.profy.com/2007/10/22/nablopomo/ You may have heard of the seemingly crazy NaNoWriMo, where people sign on to write a novel in the month of November. In response to NaNoWriMo, one blogger decided to have a little fun and create NaBloPoMo - write a blog post a day for the month of November. This year she is already over 1500 participants and counting, all because she tapped into the power of [Ning} to grow her movement. You can see the NaBloPoMo Ning group here: http://nablopomo.ning.com/ I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. Just a thought. Personally, I'll be writing a novel every day in November, so I'll be far too busy for doing something so insane ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: halloween vlogfest 2007?
Or you could come to my halloween party! LA vloggers are certainly welcome. Here is the invite on upcoming. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/299358/ The details are private so add me as a friend if you're interested. On 10/21/07, Steve Woolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, mcmpress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there no Halloween Vlogfest this year? Haven't seen a post about it. Anyone? unfortunately we've been too busy this fall to put another event together around Halloween. kinda sucks, sorry. :( if anyone else wants to do something for Halloween I say go for it! steve -- mickipedia.com worldchanging.com twitter.com/mickipedia NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse or protection from this unwarranted intrusion save to call for the impeachment of the current President. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: the end of dltq, the beginning of something else
DLTQ was a provocative, personal, exploration of the medium of videoblogging. Congrats on a rich, varied project. And best of luck on your next project where you will be focusing on online video and civil society. For folks who want to get inside Raymond's head, he's the guest on this week's Par-tay where we'll be talking about how online video will shape the future of politics. http://jonnygoldstein.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Raymond M. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I remember well when I first got into videoblogging, and I joined this mailing-list, and I got to know so many people who were doing interesting things with videoblogging. This was in late 2004, and the movement was still relatively small then. Today, if we can even talk about a movement anymore, it has grown much bigger. There are thousands of people on this mailing-list, and sites like youtube, blip.tv and others have given the regular people opportunities for mediation that we could only dream about years ago. Almost from the very beginning, one of my main interests related to videoblogging has been political videoblogging. As in: How does videoblogging change politics? Does it change it? If so, how? Who is the agent behind this change? How could political _organizations_ use videoblogging as a sort of knowledge management? A way to remember political processes and make politics seem less of something just for people in some ivory tower. A way to connect with the people in ways that you simply cannot do through the main-stream media. In mid 2005, while I was doing some videoblogging experiments within my political party in Norway, I was quoted as saying this in a bbc online article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4229698.stm): Today in Norway, many youth are feeling disillusioned with politics, says Kristiansen. They feel that politics is all the same. And if I can interview people, put them online, it lowers the barrier. I have since in different ways probed this question. How can politicians, or NGOs, or others, communicate with - for instance - the youths in a way that becomes authentic? Is more authentic than the broadcast model of putting on that suit, the mask, and talking for 30 seconds in an elevator-pitch about X important topic. On my personal vlog/blog, www.dltq.org, I put out a lot of videos, most of them long and boring, some of them short, some of them innovative in some way, but too many of them just being fluff. Now, fluff is good and all, but sometimes we want to go deeper. So, last week I decided to end DLTQ, to end this site and to move on. My messages to this mailing list the last months has mostly been about political videoblogging. What is happening around the world today? What are the best case studies? What can we learn from whatever people are doing in the UK, Italy, USA or India? I received some tips, and I have also been exploring the current status quo of political videoblogging (including the various projects involving youtube), but overall I feel that I lack the overview. There are a few great sites out there, like for instance www.personaldemocracy.com - but I often feel that such sites lack a true international scope. So I am currently in the process of preparing for my next site, which will not be personal as such, but a team effort. The domain is not ready yet, but I will give it to you once it is. So far we are two people living in Denmark who have committed ourselves to it, but I am looking for other partners, preferably in other countries and continents. So: Are you interested in the meeting-point of politics and new media? Are you interested in how mediated politics can change how civil society works and develops? Do you want to be part of a small group of bloggers that will deal with these and similar questions? Personally, I think it would be great if we could be 5-6 people from different regions. 5-6 people that could together edit a site that could add to the plethora of sites dealing with these issues. Part of the goal of the site would be to point at best practice from around the world. It would also be to publish our own video once a week with updates from whatever is happening, as well as interviewing some regular people about issues that matter to them. Something like Ten Questions: http://www.10questions.com/ but with an international profile, and being a site that also goes meta a lot. Even though videoblogging is going main-stream, we must remember that this is still about the people. The individuals who for all kinds of reasons make movies and put them on the internet. Have a great day/evening!, Best regards, Raymond M. Kristiansen 2004-07: www.dltq.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: International Disturbed People's Day
Your not disturbing me, I already am --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today is apparently the International Disturbed People's Day and I wanted to wish all vloggers a Happy international disturbed people's day. Cause to be frank most of the vloggers I know are DEEPLY disturbedespecialy Galacticast and Wreck and Salavge, some episodes of Lo-Fi St. Louis, and that really weird bunny wedding of Schlomo's, Bekah's crazy #$%^$# neighbor, Verdi's naked video and.well I am sure you get the idea. Here's to disturbed long may we reign! Heath http://batmangeek.com
[videoblogging] Realtime 3D Vlogging?
Eric Rice just posted this on Twitter. Not for me, but thought some of you might be interested to have a play: http://www.tvnima.com/ Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. let do it. as others have said, lets stress simplicity. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
Should be easy for me, as I am posting 30 seconds of crappy video a day from my cell phone nowI have to be honest something very liberating about it as well..and thanks to David Meade and the 2 other people who have subscribed to it! Of course some on this list, do it everyday anyway... ;) Heath http://batmangeek.com http://mobilevlog.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. let do it. as others have said, lets stress simplicity. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
Great idea. Great possibilities. Jay's simplicity suggestion may be the key. But Rupert you'll have to go to bed at 8 every night if you're going to get up at 4 am like Leonard Cohen http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/leonard_cohen/famous_blue_raincoat.ht\ ml to write that novel. And if you do could you give me a call too when you get up. There's nothing like a creative challenge... [I-)] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. let do it. as others have said, lets stress simplicity. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
Great idea. Great possibilities. Jay's simplicity suggestion may be the key. But Rupert you'll have to go to bed at 8 every night if you're going to get up at 4 am like Leonard Cohen http://tinyurl.com/2twy5c to write that novel. And if you do could you give me a call when you get up. Nothing like a creative challenge... [I-)] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should be easy for me, as I am posting 30 seconds of crappy video a day from my cell phone nowI have to be honest something very liberating about it as well..and thanks to David Meade and the 2 other people who have subscribed to it! Of course some on this list, do it everyday anyway... ;) Heath http://batmangeek.com http://mobilevlog.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. let do it. as others have said, lets stress simplicity. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
Hi all - Does anyone know of a Windows Mobile application that allows for trimming and combining of video clips? I just cannot find such an app but find it hard to believe that not even one crappy option exists. My windows mobile phone takes video (avi or mp4) and I want to be able to trim the clips and then re-order/combine them together into one longer clip before I upload to blip (or wherever). Thanks, - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
Re: [videoblogging] the end of dltq, the beginning of something else
You should make a banner, like Bush: DLTQ: Mission Accomplished. I think it's a great idea to close one chapter and Focus all your energy into this as a Project. Go big, Raymond. On the one hand, what you're talking about is inspiring and I'd love to be involved - but I wouldn't be able to put the kind of time energy you'd need into it at the moment. But I'd love to help in smaller ways, if I can. Once your new site is established, there are a few people I know in Britain who are who I'm sure will be interested in getting involved. What so many of us have understood about the power of personal video is still so unknown and untapped in the wider world. You've got the vision and the passion, and you've been thinking about it for long enough - I'm sure you're the right person to put together something powerful. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 21 Oct 2007, at 03:25, Raymond M. Kristiansen wrote: Hey all, I remember well when I first got into videoblogging, and I joined this mailing-list, and I got to know so many people who were doing interesting things with videoblogging. This was in late 2004, and the movement was still relatively small then. Today, if we can even talk about a movement anymore, it has grown much bigger. There are thousands of people on this mailing-list, and sites like youtube, blip.tv and others have given the regular people opportunities for mediation that we could only dream about years ago. Almost from the very beginning, one of my main interests related to videoblogging has been political videoblogging. As in: How does videoblogging change politics? Does it change it? If so, how? Who is the agent behind this change? How could political _organizations_ use videoblogging as a sort of knowledge management? A way to remember political processes and make politics seem less of something just for people in some ivory tower. A way to connect with the people in ways that you simply cannot do through the main-stream media. In mid 2005, while I was doing some videoblogging experiments within my political party in Norway, I was quoted as saying this in a bbc online article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4229698.stm): Today in Norway, many youth are feeling disillusioned with politics, says Kristiansen. They feel that politics is all the same. And if I can interview people, put them online, it lowers the barrier. I have since in different ways probed this question. How can politicians, or NGOs, or others, communicate with - for instance - the youths in a way that becomes authentic? Is more authentic than the broadcast model of putting on that suit, the mask, and talking for 30 seconds in an elevator-pitch about X important topic. On my personal vlog/blog, www.dltq.org, I put out a lot of videos, most of them long and boring, some of them short, some of them innovative in some way, but too many of them just being fluff. Now, fluff is good and all, but sometimes we want to go deeper. So, last week I decided to end DLTQ, to end this site and to move on. My messages to this mailing list the last months has mostly been about political videoblogging. What is happening around the world today? What are the best case studies? What can we learn from whatever people are doing in the UK, Italy, USA or India? I received some tips, and I have also been exploring the current status quo of political videoblogging (including the various projects involving youtube), but overall I feel that I lack the overview. There are a few great sites out there, like for instance www.personaldemocracy.com - but I often feel that such sites lack a true international scope. So I am currently in the process of preparing for my next site, which will not be personal as such, but a team effort. The domain is not ready yet, but I will give it to you once it is. So far we are two people living in Denmark who have committed ourselves to it, but I am looking for other partners, preferably in other countries and continents. So: Are you interested in the meeting-point of politics and new media? Are you interested in how mediated politics can change how civil society works and develops? Do you want to be part of a small group of bloggers that will deal with these and similar questions? Personally, I think it would be great if we could be 5-6 people from different regions. 5-6 people that could together edit a site that could add to the plethora of sites dealing with these issues. Part of the goal of the site would be to point at best practice from around the world. It would also be to publish our own video once a week with updates from whatever is happening, as well as interviewing some regular people about issues that matter to them. Something like Ten Questions: http://www.10questions.com/ but with an international profile, and being a site that also goes meta a lot. Even though videoblogging is going main-stream, we must remember
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
Ha :) Yeah, it'll be fun. Simple, low-rent fun. Rather than just make our own Ning site, perhaps we should invade the NaBloPoMo Ning site as a videoblogging splinter group, for wider exposure and more opportunity to make new connections with people. Seems like they've got it all set up. I think I'm going to just go and register there. http://nablopomo.ning.com/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 20:39, cromadot wrote: Great idea. Great possibilities. Jay's simplicity suggestion may be the key. But Rupert you'll have to go to bed at 8 every night if you're going to get up at 4 am like Leonard Cohen http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/leonard_cohen/ famous_blue_raincoat.ht\ ml to write that novel. And if you do could you give me a call too when you get up. There's nothing like a creative challenge... [I-)] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. let do it. as others have said, lets stress simplicity. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
I'll give it a go as best I can. We'll be knee deep in moving then so it could provide for interesting things. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha :) Yeah, it'll be fun. Simple, low-rent fun. Rather than just make our own Ning site, perhaps we should invade the NaBloPoMo Ning site as a videoblogging splinter group, for wider exposure and more opportunity to make new connections with people. Seems like they've got it all set up. I think I'm going to just go and register there. http://nablopomo.ning.com/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 20:39, cromadot wrote: Great idea. Great possibilities. Jay's simplicity suggestion may be the key. But Rupert you'll have to go to bed at 8 every night if you're going to get up at 4 am like Leonard Cohen http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/leonard_cohen/ famous_blue_raincoat.ht\ ml to write that novel. And if you do could you give me a call too when you get up. There's nothing like a creative challenge... [I-)] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. let do it. as others have said, lets stress simplicity. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Making Videos For Cell Phones
Hi everyone: There are probably better places to ask this question, but I figured I'd start here. What is the defacto standard video configuration for cell phones (Not neccessarily the iPhone, though that can be included as well)? The reason I ask this is because I'd like to create seperate a RSS Feed so that people can download videos either directly to their cell phones or to their PC and then transfer to their cell phone. I also ask because every piece of software I saw on CNET that actually lets you convert to 3GP video lists like a hundred cell phones or something. You'd THINK there'd be a defacto standard SOMEHOW, dontcha think? Anyhow I figured that if I can do this, it'd be SO kewl if I can appeal to those who may NOT have iPods, but have a phone instead. An answer to this would be appreciated :D Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcst) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
Hadn't thought about that David, but it might be nice...especially to cut out the last 2-3 frames when filming 'small' video in 3gp (my pocket pc films in either 3gp or mp4, 'large'). Here are my collected 8525 links though - FYI - http://del.icio.us/love_detective/8525 Will let you know if I find anything in my web travels. Curious: Do you have a maximum MMS upload size attached to your account? If not, who are you using and what kind of plan do you have? Warmly, Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Does anyone know of a Windows Mobile application that allows for trimming and combining of video clips? I just cannot find such an app but find it hard to believe that not even one crappy option exists. My windows mobile phone takes video (avi or mp4) and I want to be able to trim the clips and then re-order/combine them together into one longer clip before I upload to blip (or wherever). Thanks, - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Making Videos For Cell Phones
Thing is - and I *make cell phone vids on the cell phone - not in a million years would I ever consider downloading vids specifically to watch on my cell - other than those family / friends portraits I just keep on there for hearts' sake. Is anybody really watching vids on their cell phones - other than iPhone users? Jan On 10/22/07, Patrick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone: There are probably better places to ask this question, but I figured I'd start here. What is the defacto standard video configuration for cell phones (Not neccessarily the iPhone, though that can be included as well)? The reason I ask this is because I'd like to create seperate a RSS Feed so that people can download videos either directly to their cell phones or to their PC and then transfer to their cell phone. I also ask because every piece of software I saw on CNET that actually lets you convert to 3GP video lists like a hundred cell phones or something. You'd THINK there'd be a defacto standard SOMEHOW, dontcha think? Anyhow I figured that if I can do this, it'd be SO kewl if I can appeal to those who may NOT have iPods, but have a phone instead. An answer to this would be appreciated :D Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcst) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
COOL. I should've known you'd all be up for this. I've created a video bloggers group within the NaBloPoMo Ning social network. http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers Roll on November 1st. I might use it as an excuse to try a bunch of different video sites and services. Screw quality, I'm in it for fun. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:04, David Howell wrote: I'll give it a go as best I can. We'll be knee deep in moving then so it could provide for interesting things. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha :) Yeah, it'll be fun. Simple, low-rent fun. Rather than just make our own Ning site, perhaps we should invade the NaBloPoMo Ning site as a videoblogging splinter group, for wider exposure and more opportunity to make new connections with people. Seems like they've got it all set up. I think I'm going to just go and register there. http://nablopomo.ning.com/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 20:39, cromadot wrote: Great idea. Great possibilities. Jay's simplicity suggestion may be the key. But Rupert you'll have to go to bed at 8 every night if you're going to get up at 4 am like Leonard Cohen http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/leonard_cohen/ famous_blue_raincoat.ht\ ml to write that novel. And if you do could you give me a call too when you get up. There's nothing like a creative challenge... [I-)] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. let do it. as others have said, lets stress simplicity. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
well I have an unlimited data plan with cingular (now att) , and can record as much video as my SD card will allow.So far my mobile vlogs have all been via email. I record the video and then email it to my blip address ... it then automatically gets cross posted to my site. I've done one such video in avi format and several in mp4 ... unfortunately something has happened recently and QuickTime player is no longer playing MP4 videos recorded from my phone (Cingular 8125). If you go to http://www.davidmeade.com/tags/movlog/ you can see my mp4s which previously played inline just fine ... but now even though blip confirms the files are there ... quicktime player isn't playing them anymore. I dont really know whats going on with it, but I think the blip people are looking into it in case there's anything they can do in order to continue to play nice with HTC phones. Anyway, I would love to find a simple edit ability for windows mobile devices. (I also hope that the intro/outro feature at blip becomes a reality one day ... but thats another story :-) ) Thanks for the links I'll look them over! - Dave On 10/22/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hadn't thought about that David, but it might be nice...especially to cut out the last 2-3 frames when filming 'small' video in 3gp (my pocket pc films in either 3gp or mp4, 'large'). Here are my collected 8525 links though - FYI - http://del.icio.us/love_detective/8525 Will let you know if I find anything in my web travels. Curious: Do you have a maximum MMS upload size attached to your account? If not, who are you using and what kind of plan do you have? Warmly, Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Does anyone know of a Windows Mobile application that allows for trimming and combining of video clips? I just cannot find such an app but find it hard to believe that not even one crappy option exists. My windows mobile phone takes video (avi or mp4) and I want to be able to trim the clips and then re-order/combine them together into one longer clip before I upload to blip (or wherever). Thanks, - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
So I downloaded one of your mp4s and changed the extension to 3gp and it plays fine. What that means, I don't know. Seeing as it worked for a while and then stopped, my first guess is that it's something Apple screwed up in the last Quicktime update - allowing QT to recognise a 3gp file with an mp4 extension. I do know that my Nokia records lower quality 160x120 video as 3gp and higher quality 320x240 640x480 as mp4. So maybe your phone is set to record at lower quality but is still outputting an mp4 extension. Can you rename the file extensions in your phone, or would you have to copy to PC first before emailing/uploading to Blip? What a drag. Rupert On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:56, David Meade wrote: well I have an unlimited data plan with cingular (now att) , and can record as much video as my SD card will allow. So far my mobile vlogs have all been via email. I record the video and then email it to my blip address ... it then automatically gets cross posted to my site. I've done one such video in avi format and several in mp4 ... unfortunately something has happened recently and QuickTime player is no longer playing MP4 videos recorded from my phone (Cingular 8125). If you go to http://www.davidmeade.com/tags/movlog/ you can see my mp4s which previously played inline just fine ... but now even though blip confirms the files are there ... quicktime player isn't playing them anymore. I dont really know whats going on with it, but I think the blip people are looking into it in case there's anything they can do in order to continue to play nice with HTC phones. Anyway, I would love to find a simple edit ability for windows mobile devices. (I also hope that the intro/outro feature at blip becomes a reality one day ... but thats another story :-) ) Thanks for the links I'll look them over! - Dave On 10/22/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hadn't thought about that David, but it might be nice...especially to cut out the last 2-3 frames when filming 'small' video in 3gp (my pocket pc films in either 3gp or mp4, 'large'). Here are my collected 8525 links though - FYI - http://del.icio.us/love_detective/8525 Will let you know if I find anything in my web travels. Curious: Do you have a maximum MMS upload size attached to your account? If not, who are you using and what kind of plan do you have? Warmly, Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Does anyone know of a Windows Mobile application that allows for trimming and combining of video clips? I just cannot find such an app but find it hard to believe that not even one crappy option exists. My windows mobile phone takes video (avi or mp4) and I want to be able to trim the clips and then re-order/combine them together into one longer clip before I upload to blip (or wherever). Thanks, - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but still ... that odd. :-P I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. I'll test that to be sure. Thanks Rupert! (now go friend me in facebook arelady, how long I gotta wait!? :P ) - Dave On 10/22/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I downloaded one of your mp4s and changed the extension to 3gp and it plays fine. What that means, I don't know. Seeing as it worked for a while and then stopped, my first guess is that it's something Apple screwed up in the last Quicktime update - allowing QT to recognise a 3gp file with an mp4 extension. I do know that my Nokia records lower quality 160x120 video as 3gp and higher quality 320x240 640x480 as mp4. So maybe your phone is set to record at lower quality but is still outputting an mp4 extension. Can you rename the file extensions in your phone, or would you have to copy to PC first before emailing/uploading to Blip? What a drag. Rupert On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:56, David Meade wrote: well I have an unlimited data plan with cingular (now att) , and can record as much video as my SD card will allow. So far my mobile vlogs have all been via email. I record the video and then email it to my blip address ... it then automatically gets cross posted to my site. I've done one such video in avi format and several in mp4 ... unfortunately something has happened recently and QuickTime player is no longer playing MP4 videos recorded from my phone (Cingular 8125). If you go to http://www.davidmeade.com/tags/movlog/ you can see my mp4s which previously played inline just fine ... but now even though blip confirms the files are there ... quicktime player isn't playing them anymore. I dont really know whats going on with it, but I think the blip people are looking into it in case there's anything they can do in order to continue to play nice with HTC phones. Anyway, I would love to find a simple edit ability for windows mobile devices. (I also hope that the intro/outro feature at blip becomes a reality one day ... but thats another story :-) ) Thanks for the links I'll look them over! - Dave On 10/22/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hadn't thought about that David, but it might be nice...especially to cut out the last 2-3 frames when filming 'small' video in 3gp (my pocket pc films in either 3gp or mp4, 'large'). Here are my collected 8525 links though - FYI - http://del.icio.us/love_detective/8525 Will let you know if I find anything in my web travels. Curious: Do you have a maximum MMS upload size attached to your account? If not, who are you using and what kind of plan do you have? Warmly, Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Does anyone know of a Windows Mobile application that allows for trimming and combining of video clips? I just cannot find such an app but find it hard to believe that not even one crappy option exists. My windows mobile phone takes video (avi or mp4) and I want to be able to trim the clips and then re-order/combine them together into one longer clip before I upload to blip (or wherever). Thanks, - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
Oh, God, I haven't used Facebook for ages. Except to watch those videos that Heath made, and only then because he tagged me and I got sent a message about that. It's got to the point where I'm scared to open it to read all the messages and friend requests and hear how many people have bitten and poked and infected me. Jesus - Facebook has become like my bank statements. How did that happen? On 22 Oct 2007, at 23:10, David Meade wrote: Thanks Rupert! (now go friend me in facebook arelady, how long I gotta wait!? :P ) - Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
It's quite ironic this challenge has come up, for just this past week I posted a vlog about vlogging for a whole month. http://tinyurl.com/2yeezx Currently sitting at 21 posted on Oct 22, but I have a Lumiere I can post. Perhaps I should get rested up for November instead. Sounds like it's going to be a busy one. Bring it on! Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: COOL. I should've known you'd all be up for this. I've created a video bloggers group within the NaBloPoMo Ning social network. http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers Roll on November 1st. I might use it as an excuse to try a bunch of different video sites and services. Screw quality, I'm in it for fun. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:04, David Howell wrote: I'll give it a go as best I can. We'll be knee deep in moving then so it could provide for interesting things. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: Ha :) Yeah, it'll be fun. Simple, low-rent fun. Rather than just make our own Ning site, perhaps we should invade the NaBloPoMo Ning site as a videoblogging splinter group, for wider exposure and more opportunity to make new connections with people. Seems like they've got it all set up. I think I'm going to just go and register there. http://nablopomo.ning.com/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 20:39, cromadot wrote: Great idea. Great possibilities. Jay's simplicity suggestion may be the key. But Rupert you'll have to go to bed at 8 every night if you're going to get up at 4 am like Leonard Cohen http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/leonard_cohen/ famous_blue_raincoat.ht\ ml to write that novel. And if you do could you give me a call too when you get up. There's nothing like a creative challenge... [I-)] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. let do it. as others have said, lets stress simplicity. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
Damn, I've been so behind on my video watching that I hadn't realised you were doing this. Good work! But don't rest up! Keep going! Push through! Do two months! You can do it ;) R On 22 Oct 2007, at 23:48, Mike Moon wrote: It's quite ironic this challenge has come up, for just this past week I posted a vlog about vlogging for a whole month. http://tinyurl.com/2yeezx Currently sitting at 21 posted on Oct 22, but I have a Lumiere I can post. Perhaps I should get rested up for November instead. Sounds like it's going to be a busy one. Bring it on! Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: COOL. I should've known you'd all be up for this. I've created a video bloggers group within the NaBloPoMo Ning social network. http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers Roll on November 1st. I might use it as an excuse to try a bunch of different video sites and services. Screw quality, I'm in it for fun. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:04, David Howell wrote: I'll give it a go as best I can. We'll be knee deep in moving then so it could provide for interesting things. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: Ha :) Yeah, it'll be fun. Simple, low-rent fun. Rather than just make our own Ning site, perhaps we should invade the NaBloPoMo Ning site as a videoblogging splinter group, for wider exposure and more opportunity to make new connections with people. Seems like they've got it all set up. I think I'm going to just go and register there. http://nablopomo.ning.com/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 20:39, cromadot wrote: Great idea. Great possibilities. Jay's simplicity suggestion may be the key. But Rupert you'll have to go to bed at 8 every night if you're going to get up at 4 am like Leonard Cohen http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/leonard_cohen/ famous_blue_raincoat.ht\ ml to write that novel. And if you do could you give me a call too when you get up. There's nothing like a creative challenge... [I-)] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. let do it. as others have said, lets stress simplicity. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
Hi everyone: On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but still ... that odd. :-P I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. I'll test that to be sure. I don't think this will work. I'm trying to figure out a way to encode videos for cell phones without having to upload like a hundred instances of THE SAME video every time I make a video on my desktop PC, but I don't think doing THIS will work regardless of the type of PC. So far, all I've found is some software that encode for some phones, but not others while other software will encode will only encode for only a scant (A *very small* scant at that) handful of phones and that's it. Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcst) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
Given the visual nature of video I thought I'd toss together a navlopomo logo: http://www.davidmeade.com/Pics/navlopomo.jpg http://www.davidmeade.com/Pics/navlopomo.psd These are very simple ones based on the NaNoWriMo logo ... I didnt want to spend a lot of time on the logo since I thought we probably wont be doing alot of editing / adding logos /etc during the month anyway :-) But use it if you like ... or make a better one if you can (and please share if you do) :-) Now ... tags? NaVloPoMo08?? - Dave On 10/22/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, I've been so behind on my video watching that I hadn't realised you were doing this. Good work! But don't rest up! Keep going! Push through! Do two months! You can do it ;) R On 22 Oct 2007, at 23:48, Mike Moon wrote: It's quite ironic this challenge has come up, for just this past week I posted a vlog about vlogging for a whole month. http://tinyurl.com/2yeezx Currently sitting at 21 posted on Oct 22, but I have a Lumiere I can post. Perhaps I should get rested up for November instead. Sounds like it's going to be a busy one. Bring it on! Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: COOL. I should've known you'd all be up for this. I've created a video bloggers group within the NaBloPoMo Ning social network. http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers Roll on November 1st. I might use it as an excuse to try a bunch of different video sites and services. Screw quality, I'm in it for fun. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:04, David Howell wrote: I'll give it a go as best I can. We'll be knee deep in moving then so it could provide for interesting things. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: Ha :) Yeah, it'll be fun. Simple, low-rent fun. Rather than just make our own Ning site, perhaps we should invade the NaBloPoMo Ning site as a videoblogging splinter group, for wider exposure and more opportunity to make new connections with people. Seems like they've got it all set up. I think I'm going to just go and register there. http://nablopomo.ning.com/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 20:39, cromadot wrote: Great idea. Great possibilities. Jay's simplicity suggestion may be the key. But Rupert you'll have to go to bed at 8 every night if you're going to get up at 4 am like Leonard Cohen http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/leonard_cohen/ famous_blue_raincoat.ht\ ml to write that novel. And if you do could you give me a call too when you get up. There's nothing like a creative challenge... [I-)] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. let do it. as others have said, lets stress simplicity. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
Hey Pat, Yeah, the unfortunate truth of video codecs is that you can't make something for everyone. Flash seems like the perfect Mac/Windows solution, since nearly all computers have Flash player, or can download it quickly. But Flash doesn't work on phones. Or at least, Flash 8 9 won't work on my video phone. Gah. Flash 7 Youtube videos will, though. But now they're being converted to H264, which won't. The one format that does seem to be accepted by almost all phones that play video is 3gp. But at what resolution? 160x120 or thereabouts, I think. Tiny. If you get VisualHub, and get it to pump out multiple versions of your file, and upload all those files to Blip, and then get Blip to crosspost to your blog, you'll get a nice post with all your file formats linked to. MP4, WMV, 3GP, FLV. Then, if you publish with Wordpress, you can use something like the nice plugin that the ShowInABox.tv guys have made, to create format- specific feeds. So it'll be possible for you to 'easily' offer podcasting in different formats. But I have to ask, how many people will actually watch on a phone? Like Jan, I make videos using my phone - a Nokia N93, which has serious video capabilities - but I've never ever watched or subscribed to anybody else's video on it. And I'm someone who's very into watching web video. So is it worth the effort? I guess you won't know until you try. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 23 Oct 2007, at 00:03, Patrick Cook wrote: Hi everyone: On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but still ... that odd. :-P I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. I'll test that to be sure. I don't think this will work. I'm trying to figure out a way to encode videos for cell phones without having to upload like a hundred instances of THE SAME video every time I make a video on my desktop PC, but I don't think doing THIS will work regardless of the type of PC. So far, all I've found is some software that encode for some phones, but not others while other software will encode will only encode for only a scant (A *very small* scant at that) handful of phones and that's it. Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcst) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
On 23 Oct 2007, at 00:09, David Meade wrote: Now ... tags? NaVloPoMo08 ?? Nasty! Yes! Love the logo. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] The Winnies, a place to crash for a day?
Hey - My wife and I are getting into LA for the Winnies on Thursday night around 7ish (hopefully,..long story) anyway I was hoping that maybe we could crash with someone, thursday night. We have a hotel for Fri, Sat and Sunday but was trying to save a bit on costs and was hoping that maybe one of you kind and generous vloggers from LA would be willing to help out a fellow geek... Just lmk off list at heathparks[at]msn.com Thanks! Heath http://batmangeek.com
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
Yeah. I had same probs with mp4 files not playing. Anywhere. Used the 'change the extension to 3gp' which worked fine. Problem with 8525 pocket pc mp4 shooting is that the files are too large to MMS to Blip, so I've got to get 'em to the MacBook, change the extension, edit, then upload. Have reverted to shooting in the smaller 3gp files for immediate upload gratification. How do you get your phone to shoot in avi? Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but still ... that odd. :-P I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. I'll test that to be sure. Thanks Rupert! (now go friend me in facebook arelady, how long I gotta wait!? :P ) - Dave On 10/22/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I downloaded one of your mp4s and changed the extension to 3gp and it plays fine. What that means, I don't know. Seeing as it worked for a while and then stopped, my first guess is that it's something Apple screwed up in the last Quicktime update - allowing QT to recognise a 3gp file with an mp4 extension. I do know that my Nokia records lower quality 160x120 video as 3gp and higher quality 320x240 640x480 as mp4. So maybe your phone is set to record at lower quality but is still outputting an mp4 extension. Can you rename the file extensions in your phone, or would you have to copy to PC first before emailing/uploading to Blip? What a drag. Rupert On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:56, David Meade wrote: well I have an unlimited data plan with cingular (now att) , and can record as much video as my SD card will allow. So far my mobile vlogs have all been via email. I record the video and then email it to my blip address ... it then automatically gets cross posted to my site. I've done one such video in avi format and several in mp4 ... unfortunately something has happened recently and QuickTime player is no longer playing MP4 videos recorded from my phone (Cingular 8125). If you go to http://www.davidmeade.com/tags/movlog/ you can see my mp4s which previously played inline just fine ... but now even though blip confirms the files are there ... quicktime player isn't playing them anymore. I dont really know whats going on with it, but I think the blip people are looking into it in case there's anything they can do in order to continue to play nice with HTC phones. Anyway, I would love to find a simple edit ability for windows mobile devices. (I also hope that the intro/outro feature at blip becomes a reality one day ... but thats another story :-) ) Thanks for the links I'll look them over! - Dave On 10/22/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hadn't thought about that David, but it might be nice...especially to cut out the last 2-3 frames when filming 'small' video in 3gp (my pocket pc films in either 3gp or mp4, 'large'). Here are my collected 8525 links though - FYI - http://del.icio.us/love_detective/8525 Will let you know if I find anything in my web travels. Curious: Do you have a maximum MMS upload size attached to your account? If not, who are you using and what kind of plan do you have? Warmly, Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Does anyone know of a Windows Mobile application that allows for trimming and combining of video clips? I just cannot find such an app but find it hard to believe that not even one crappy option exists. My windows mobile phone takes video (avi or mp4) and I want to be able to trim the clips and then re-order/combine them together into one longer clip before I upload to blip (or wherever). Thanks, - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
My guess is the most universal cell phone format for download is 3gp. Send me your phone # off list and we can try. Jan On 10/22/07, Patrick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone: On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but still ... that odd. :-P I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. I'll test that to be sure. I don't think this will work. I'm trying to figure out a way to encode videos for cell phones without having to upload like a hundred instances of THE SAME video every time I make a video on my desktop PC, but I don't think doing THIS will work regardless of the type of PC. So far, all I've found is some software that encode for some phones, but not others while other software will encode will only encode for only a scant (A *very small* scant at that) handful of phones and that's it. Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcst) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
But of course I'd be up for this ;) What makes you think I wouldnt be up for no quality vids? Dude...my best stuff is no quality! David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: COOL. I should've known you'd all be up for this. I've created a video bloggers group within the NaBloPoMo Ning social network. http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers Roll on November 1st. I might use it as an excuse to try a bunch of different video sites and services. Screw quality, I'm in it for fun. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:04, David Howell wrote: I'll give it a go as best I can. We'll be knee deep in moving then so it could provide for interesting things. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: Ha :) Yeah, it'll be fun. Simple, low-rent fun. Rather than just make our own Ning site, perhaps we should invade the NaBloPoMo Ning site as a videoblogging splinter group, for wider exposure and more opportunity to make new connections with people. Seems like they've got it all set up. I think I'm going to just go and register there. http://nablopomo.ning.com/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 20:39, cromadot wrote: Great idea. Great possibilities. Jay's simplicity suggestion may be the key. But Rupert you'll have to go to bed at 8 every night if you're going to get up at 4 am like Leonard Cohen http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/leonard_cohen/ famous_blue_raincoat.ht\ ml to write that novel. And if you do could you give me a call too when you get up. There's nothing like a creative challenge... [I-)] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. let do it. as others have said, lets stress simplicity. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: pocketPC video editor?
Plenty of wisdom there from Rupert :) And yeah I am surrounded by portable devices phones that can play video but I dont use them. The N95 has all the features but I dont find it fun to use, the screen isnt quite big enough and the UI is better but still not good enough. But now that Ive got an ipod touch, I can see what all this iphone fuss was about. Im impressed. UI wise, video wise lovely touchscreen size, this puts the all important fun into the device, and makes it more likely I would actually watch video on it. Obviously this touch is only wifi connected, not a mobile, and I really dont like the sound of the speed bitrate settings for iphone video over Edge. But yeah, its so much fun to actually surf the web on this thing compared to other devices, that I am now more optimistic about the future of portable devices, I think they will catch on when they are this much fun. I stand by my earlier ponderings that the features of a nokia N95 combined with the UI and touchscreen of the iphone, would be the killer device. If that doesnt catch on, then I dont think anything pocketsized will, and I give up on mobile video. And as the web surfing is so much fun, but still a bit of a challenge ont he small screen, I am drawn to sites that are optimised for such devices as the iphone and ipod touch, and I see things like tumblelogs as being a potential good fit, though blogs with a simple theme work well too. Just a shame about the video issue, 3gp is such poor quality Ive never really looked at it properly but maybe there is a demand for it out there, not convinced. Its not hard to anticipate that most mobile devices will eventually be capable of playing back h264, but the wide variety of connection speeds of mobile devices, will probably mean that one clear format type bitrate res may not emerge to dominate. Stuck with 3gp for a long time, ugh, oh well. Im not sure I'lle ver do stuff with video over cellular data networks, but wifi with decent devices is a lot more promising. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Pat, Yeah, the unfortunate truth of video codecs is that you can't make something for everyone. Flash seems like the perfect Mac/Windows solution, since nearly all computers have Flash player, or can download it quickly. But Flash doesn't work on phones. Or at least, Flash 8 9 won't work on my video phone. Gah. Flash 7 Youtube videos will, though. But now they're being converted to H264, which won't. The one format that does seem to be accepted by almost all phones that play video is 3gp. But at what resolution? 160x120 or thereabouts, I think. Tiny. If you get VisualHub, and get it to pump out multiple versions of your file, and upload all those files to Blip, and then get Blip to crosspost to your blog, you'll get a nice post with all your file formats linked to. MP4, WMV, 3GP, FLV. Then, if you publish with Wordpress, you can use something like the nice plugin that the ShowInABox.tv guys have made, to create format- specific feeds. So it'll be possible for you to 'easily' offer podcasting in different formats. But I have to ask, how many people will actually watch on a phone? Like Jan, I make videos using my phone - a Nokia N93, which has serious video capabilities - but I've never ever watched or subscribed to anybody else's video on it. And I'm someone who's very into watching web video. So is it worth the effort? I guess you won't know until you try. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 23 Oct 2007, at 00:03, Patrick Cook wrote: Hi everyone: On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but still ... that odd. :-P I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. I'll test that to be sure. I don't think this will work. I'm trying to figure out a way to encode videos for cell phones without having to upload like a hundred instances of THE SAME video every time I make a video on my desktop PC, but I don't think doing THIS will work regardless of the type of PC. So far, all I've found is some software that encode for some phones, but not others while other software will encode will only encode for only a scant (A *very small* scant at that) handful of phones and that's it. Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL -
[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo - National Videoblog Posting Month, anyone?
Wahey this sounds like fun, I will join in though I may be a few days late as I have a nasty deadline in early November. The only video I put online this year was for videoblogging week, helped me to focus, and they were rather rushed, so this new event should fit right in, for if I start to try to improve my stuff then I never end up publishing it at all :D I might try using that Gelato CMS tumblelog software to publish my contributions, anybody here ever looked at that stuff (or hosted equivalent tumblr?) Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But of course I'd be up for this ;) What makes you think I wouldnt be up for no quality vids? Dude...my best stuff is no quality! David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: COOL. I should've known you'd all be up for this. I've created a video bloggers group within the NaBloPoMo Ning social network. http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers Roll on November 1st. I might use it as an excuse to try a bunch of different video sites and services. Screw quality, I'm in it for fun. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:04, David Howell wrote: I'll give it a go as best I can. We'll be knee deep in moving then so it could provide for interesting things. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: Ha :) Yeah, it'll be fun. Simple, low-rent fun. Rather than just make our own Ning site, perhaps we should invade the NaBloPoMo Ning site as a videoblogging splinter group, for wider exposure and more opportunity to make new connections with people. Seems like they've got it all set up. I think I'm going to just go and register there. http://nablopomo.ning.com/ On 22 Oct 2007, at 20:39, cromadot wrote: Great idea. Great possibilities. Jay's simplicity suggestion may be the key. But Rupert you'll have to go to bed at 8 every night if you're going to get up at 4 am like Leonard Cohen http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/leonard_cohen/ famous_blue_raincoat.ht\ ml to write that novel. And if you do could you give me a call too when you get up. There's nothing like a creative challenge... [I-)] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I know we have videoblogging week, and that's hard enough. But how about a month where we strip away worries about production values and editing and just post simple short videos, one per day - starting November 1st? Use your phone, your webcam, your iSight - make lumieres, moving snapshots? Or whatever you want. As long as you post some moving images, every day. let do it. as others have said, lets stress simplicity. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] OT: Want to Track Political Candidate Spending?
Hi everyone: Just got this URL while listening to DSC #671 (October 12, 2007) earlier tonight http://www.opensecrets.org/ Be sure to check out the presidential candidate spending on the site. Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcst) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/
[videoblogging] Re: re:Casey's thread: Dan McVicar, AFTRA, and independent producers
Just got home. Ok, that clears a few things up. I'm not anti-union. I just want to be cautious of all the future constrictions that seem to be slowly moving into place. Here in L.A. you can't take a deep breath without finding someone who wants to be an actor. True not all of them will be union actors. But maybe in the future we might have to ask or do a variation of ask and don't tell. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Gena, I don't think media hosts like Blip would be on the unions' radar. It's the techies and talent they rep. Were Blip 'producers' of content, that might be another story. Production companies are the entities who pay techies and talent. They are 'signatories' with unions, and agree contractually to play by union rules. Unless you want to use someone like Dan (who's in the union) in one of your productions, you won't have a problem. As Dan has said, SAG has contracts that allow union actors to work on extremely low budget experimental and student films that are actually doable for small production companies. As far as I know, IATSE doesn't. Let's say you have a production company that's making a lot of episodes and lots of money, and shooting in very public spots in very union cities. There's a chance that you would come up as a blip (couldn't resist) on the union radar. The union might then approach you to become a signatory, to 'organize' your shoot. Unions have come on to independent film sets and organized them. At that point, talent and techies on the project are offered the chance to join the union. If the crew agrees to be organized, the production company kinda has to go along for the ride or shut down or re-crew. IATSE Local 52 dues are $250 annually, plus a small percentage of every dollar you make is deducted like FICA from each paycheck. It did cost a bit for the initiation ($2,400 in 1996 if I recall correctly). Production companies are responsible to make that % deduction and turn that money over to the union. In addition, production companies contribute X dollars per day (or hour, depending on the type of contract), from their pockets toward health and pension benefits. If you're not making any money or using union techies / talent, I wouldn't worry. Union folks occasionally work for free on small projects for friends and friends of friends, but it's frowned upon. As Enric notes, union reps are not that receptive to potential new members - especially when there's not a lot of work - and require some hoop jumping, including but not limited to extreme perseverance (translation: groveling). Outta time and brainspace to think about this just now. Later, J On 10/21/07, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you say seems ok, but what happens if Google/YouTube, Blip or the other online distribution places sign agreements with the unions that could eventually push out non-union and non-commercial productions? Currently we have the choice to say Bugger off, I don't need you. If the online distribution joints are collecting revenue and braking off a piece for the union wouldn't the unions at some point force or make it known that they would prefer union talent in as many web based productions as possible? I don't know how to say this correctly but theoretically the union could tell you (Actor McVicar) to stop your production because you (Producer/Vlogger) are not paying union dues as an actor. It goes back to the question what is going to be considered a professional production? Is a one person vlogger exempt but if you have three or more working together that makes it a production company? This could set the precedent that allows the other entertainment unions jump in. I have too many questions about this. Gut feeling it seems like a creativity killer in the making. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, danielmcvicar danielmcvicar@ wrote: Hi Everybody, I've been a member of SAG and AFTRA for decades, and sometimes serve on committees in preparing for negotiation. It is my observation that this is a new area for unions, producers, performers and distributors of media. The business models are being disrupted. The union has always been there to protect performers from abusive work conditions, to improve pay and conditions, and has also taken the responsibility for insuring performers. Regarding net video, the union doesn't know what to do yet. There are some plans in place that allow producers of net video to be brought in under AFTRA rules that are not very expensive. They would be similar to lowbudget film deals. Really, it is at what point does the video become professional, and is distributed in a way that makes money. You may always operate outside the union, if you are an independent producer,
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
Hi everyone: On 10/22/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Pat, [Snip] The one format that does seem to be accepted by almost all phones that play video is 3gp. But at what resolution? 160x120 or thereabouts, I think. Tiny. Interestingly enough, I've found from the software I've downloaded and used that 176 x 144 is believed (Keyword is BELIEVED) to be the defacto standard for cell phones, though the preview seems to vary from phone to phone (One of the pieces of software I downloaded gives a preview as to how the video would likely look in a given phone). But I have to ask, how many people will actually watch on a phone? I think that with Sprint Verizon already offering video services, it's quite obvious that there's a market for people who'll watch video on their phone. And I'm someone who's very into watching web video. So is it worth the effort? I guess you won't know until you try. Well not to hijack the thread here, but it appears as though I'm not the only one interested in trying to appeal to cell phone video viewers. But in case I'm not successful, it won't be for lack of trying. :D Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcst) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
Hi Pat, I still advise caution on that interpretation of the market. My own interpretation of mobile companies offering video services is that they are selling their own content from their own portals. That's how it is in the UK, anyway - most video consumed on phones is P*rn/Soft P*rn Sport Comedy clips sold through the provider's channels. Access to third party podcasting is not highlighted, nor is it very easy and it's only sought out by the truly dedicated. And since nobody even on this list of early adopters has ever said they do it, except as an experiment (Steve G), I stand by my thoughts. As for embedding watchable video on a web page for viewing on a mobile device... you can see how the magnificent http://wreckandsalvage.com do it - I wonder if they have many mobile views. Btw, you saw this thread as encouraging - it isn't. It isn't about David trying to appeal to cell phone video viewers, it's about him trying to send video shot on his phone to his blog for viewing regularly on the web or via RSS. I watch videos on my iPod occasionally on the London underground. I am the only person I've ever seen doing that, even given the massive sales of video ipods - they launched 2 years ago this week. And I've never seen or heard of anybody watching video on their mobile phone. And a good number of people I know have video enabled phones, now, because the call packages are cheap. Cheers, Rupert On 23 Oct 2007, at 03:06, Patrick Cook wrote: I think that with Sprint Verizon already offering video services, it's quite obvious that there's a market for people who'll watch video on their phone. ...not to hijack the thread here, but it appears as though I'm not the only one interested in trying to appeal to cell phone video viewers. But in case I'm not successful, it won't be for lack of trying. :D And I'm someone who's very into watching web video. So is it worth the effort? I guess you won't know until you try. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
