[videoblogging] I'm so looking forward to meeting everyone at Vloggercon
It'll be more fun than meeting the Queen - which I did today on my video. www.captainhumphreys.com ... end shameless plug ... SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Boyfriend In A Box, Very Powerful Vlog
I could not see the picture. Is there some plug-in I need? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jadly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://mp3.yeast2.podshow.com/boyfriendinabox.mov sorry for your loss Richard... JDonnelly madpod.com petsonboard.com dummycast.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: blip.tv infrastructure
Congratulations on the investment and good luck for your future. I've got 29 videos hosted on blip and by this time next year I hope to have 200+. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, mikehudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I'm Mike Hudack, one of the founders of blip.tv. Just wanted to let you know a few things about the current status of blip.tv. First of all, some good news: I'm going full-time. I gave notice at my day job last week, and my last day is a week from tomorrow. In the meantime, I'm taking more time on blip than I have in the past (since everyone knows about it now!) The second piece of good news: we are signing a contract with a major Tier One ISP for a new feed that should completely solve our current performance problems. They promise installation in three days, but it could take longer if our current ISP drags their feet in terms of installation. Either way, within a few days, our performance problems should be a thing of the past. In the meantime, we're still distributing load across two ISPs at two different locations, and tuning our process for doing so. We're getting much better at it, but with the amount of content we're pushing it's tough going. The new installation will solve this problem, and we're doing everything we can between now and then to make things fast. If you guys have any questions, concerns, problems, feedback, whatever, please feel free to call me on my personal cell phone. My number is 646-827-9773. You can also IM me on AOL Instant Messenger -- I'm on as mikehudack. Please don't hesitate to call or IM. You guys are our business, and it pains me to have any problems at all in serving you. We have investment dollars now, we have new feeds coming in, we have people full-time. The performance problems are temporary. What's not temporary is our commitment to you and videoblogging in general. We're here for the long term. Yours, Mike Co-founder, blip.tv Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?
Here's the scenario: I've finished shooting material for tomorrow's vlog, but I haven't edited it. It's dinner time. It's so much easier to let American Idol wash over me while I eat than to seek out new material on the Internet because I'm not well set up for the latter, while I've got a TV in my kitchen where I dine and I just want to plotz and relax and not do anything for a few minutes. Okay, a few minutes turns into a few too many and then into a half-hour, but I want to just sit and digest and drink my coffee before I get up to edit and Idol will be over in fifteen minutes at this point which serves as a sort of milepost that I can use to hoist myself back into action at the computer for editing. It doesn't matter that Idol is in its 5th year and the format is stale and the forced relationships between the superficial characters is hackneyed. It's on when I sit down and nothing else better is on and 4 of the women sing pretty damn well anyway. So what if Ryan Seacrest has the charm of an organ grinder's monkey; it's on. So I suffer a stultifying program that anesthetizes me a little more every time I passively consume it and diminishes my artistic and social vigor bit by bit. I do this because of conditioning, because I'm accustomed to it, because it's easier than alternatives and because I'm not interested in watching Internet footage of teenagers skateboarding. I'm not interested in watching adults skateboard either, by the way. I don't find watching skateboarding interesting. And, anyway, I'm not well set up to watch Internet video while I sit and eat. So that's part of what anyone producing video for the Ineternet (whether it's art, comedy, news, etc), is fighting. Meanwhile, check the time stamp on this post. I just finished writing tomorrow's show. And the most viewed show on Ifilm is of two adolescent girls kissing. Well at least they're not skateboarding while they kiss. -David A man alone. Around the world. The smallest boat. A world record. www.capatainhumphreys.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r robert.videoblogging@ wrote: I completely agree with Josh, re-posting the intellectual property of others is wrong. It is. But most of the postings are personal moments that mean things to a those of similar interests. Looking right now at lastest posts on YouTube I find: The Worm - a kid squirming like a worm in tha back of a classroom. Hilarious to those who are friends and were there. Summit View Documentary a kid skateboarding with proprietary music. While the music shouldn't be used, it's a practice that's been happening in some popular videoblogs. Love two girls and a guy driving in a car, listening to music while he holds the camera out in front of them from the back seat. They're having fun and grooving. iam only one a rap music video. It's roughly made, but could very likely be copyrighted material taken from an artist. ii SED WAZZ GOOD is two girls playing at hip hop recorded on probably a camera phone -- amateur and high spiritied. Mammoth Feb 06 two skiers going down a slope. Big 4 is a skateboarder going over some steps. chueco vs cali el cuarto is a soccer game that sounds like it's in Spanish language recorded off TV -- copyrighted material. Me in Pump It Up Dancing, Tashannie - Don't Bother Me is a kid recording himself playing a dance videogame with some speed and precision. sk8allDay has titling, with music by Queen and the camera following a skater try different challenges. He describes what he's trying to do. Slow motion is used to emphasize sections. A crowd reacts as he keeps trying and failing. It ends with the camera coming up to the upside down skateboard on another failure which he picks up and goes to try again. Of the first ten videos, only one is clearly copyrighted with a second one probable. The rest are original, amateur works to share with friends and others with similar intrests. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com BTW, wasn't this a great video moment? http://www.apollopony.net/2006/02/frank_zappa_on.html On Feb 21, 2006, at 11:56 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: I agree with this... yet I also think there are some cases where bubbling up is important. But you are correct that bubbling up doesn't satisfy the needs of the individual and their immediate social circle. It doesn't help people share their lives through video. I feel this aspect is being lost we need more good examples. Maybe that has to do with my own aesthetic concerns though. I feel like some of that spirit is being lost amidst the wave of lipsyncing teens and plaigarized video. -Josh On 2/21/06, Peter Van Dijck petervandijck@ wrote: On 2/21/06, Michael Sullivan sulleleven@
[videoblogging] Re: Server Cooperative -- wanna start one?
I only know Blip because of this group and only for a couple of weeks and, still, I want to see them succeed. Why? They're friendly and concientious. They're offering a good service. They're ahead of the curve. They're not Time Warner. Go Blip. Go see my videos on Blip at: http://www.blip.tv/posts/?search=captain+humphreys We've got 24 videos (shameless plug) and they're all available on Blip! But I still have bandwidth issues on my own site and I am merely inquiring if pooling the bandwidth spend of multiple users won't get us a better deal all around? If the ~2,000 on this group formed a cooperative, that cooperative could go to Blip and say, Hey, add our $10,000 a month to your bandwidth buy and let's get more bandwidth for all of us. If that would help Blip, great. If it'll help me, great. If I never need the extra bandwidth because I don't attract taht much attention, my spend is the same. I'm just creating a pool of bandwidth for use by the cooperative members. -David --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Verdi on this. I feel very loyal to Blip. Their user-friendlysoftware was extremely helpful when I was trying to figure things out. They got me up and running so I could focus on issues other than themedia server. It really allowed me to experiment and see how I likedvlogging. I've since moved on to a paid server for serveral reasons. I think they should have at least a tier of paid accounts that wouldpay for a larger data pipe. I don't know what their business model is,but I also wonder if they could get some kind of foundation support. In other words, I owe them. Stan Hirson --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi michael@ wrote: Isn't this kind of the idea of Blip coming out with paid accounts (which I think they should do)? In a way, to do something like this requires that at least one person set it up and manage it. That's not a lot of work if it's just one server for a few people but would get to be a job if it got bigger. It would just be cool if someone like Blip did it and we could just get behind them. It would be nice if you could host a domain and wordpress or MT blog there too. -Verdi Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: QTpro
Sorry for the total newbie question here: will DivX give me a .mov file? I'm on Windows and my Premiere will give me .mov that are twice the size of the AVI file. That's why on my site we haven't yet offered a .mov option, although Glenn (my partner) thinks he's come up with a solution because some of our viewers want our show on the Ipods. Any help is appreciated. -David --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any comparisons done between QTPro and DivX? Something showing how the two match up against each other? More specifically, the H.264 vs the DivX codec. I should add, from the PC side of things. I am always interested in finding the best possible video solution that I can create for the web without alienating viewers. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, JV jvinson@ wrote: Make sure you have the latest - http://www.divx.com/divx/mac/ Email me for a SN jvinson at divxcorp dot com Here is a quick quide for quicktime pro. http://www.divx.com/divx/mac/guides/quicktime.php And if you scroll down in the converter guide it shows you more info about the advanced settings. http://www.divx.com/divx/mac/guides/converter.php It also works with imovie, final cut pro... What are you selecting as your options? JV --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Conrad Slater mail@ wrote: I depend on QTpro, it's a complete work horse for me. not only to convert thing but really useful little things like viewing files full screen and exporting stills. I also work a lot with image squences so it makes my life so much easier. I've yet to achieve good results with DivX, I tried using it via toast 7. Does anyone have good advice for compressing DivX using a Mac? (using QTpro ideally) A tutorial link would be handy. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Dale Irish Jr thebigboomboom@ wrote: Hello all, I uselly distribute on DVD and I am new to vlogging. I am on a PC using Adobe Premeire. I can export to QT but the files are to big to vlog. Is QT Pro worth it? I know it is only $29.00 but will I realy get QT files that are smaller with good quality? What about MPEG-4? I have read the quality is not there. And realy Win Media files are not to bad once you tweek them. Comments PLEASE! The Eyeman - Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, more on new and used cars. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Exact conversions for Adobe Premier elements to QT
I enjoyed reading this thread for the personalities on display in it. I'm going to www.ravensspace.blogspot now to see the video. -David The Captain Humphreys Project: A man alone. Around the world. The smallest boat. A world record. www.captainhumphreys.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, grasshopperatyourfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks David! I will follow those steps next and see if my Premier is indeed just posessed by the devil or if it was just a matter of the right protocols Cheers! Lisa (Richards Daughter) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell taoofdavid@ wrote: Ok...this is how *I* work with Premiere Elements... Start a new project. Use the default preset of DV-NTSC. Capture video. Edit video. When finished, go File, Export, Movie. Save it as an AVI. Generally the default settings are all fine. They should be the following... Export Video and audio Entire Timeline Filetype Microsoft DV AVI Video Settings Compressor: DV NTSC Frame size: 720h 480v (0.900) Frame rate: 29.97 frames/second Pixel Aspect Ratio: D1/DV NTSC (0.9) Fields: Lower Field First Audio Settings Compressor: Uncompressed Sample rate: 48000 samples/second Channels: Stereo Sample type: 16-bit Now, open Quicktime. Import AVI. Then File, Export. The settings you want to use are the following... Under Video Settings - Compression Type - H.264 - Motion - Frame Rate: 15FPS - Key Frames - Automatic - Data Rate - Restrict to 355kbits/sec - Optimized for Streaming - Compressor - Encoding - Best Quality (Multi Pass) Filter - No filters Size Custom Size - Width 320 Height 240 Now onto the Sound Settings - Format - AAC - Channels - Stereo (L R) - Rate - 22.050kHz Check Show Advanced Settings AAC Encoder Settings: - Bit Rate Format - Constant Bit Rate - Target Bit Rate - 32kbps - Precedence - Sample Rate - Quality - Better That should give you the following... http://www.taoofdavid.com/videos/baby_sphynx_2.mov I use this method all the time and the videos turn out fine for the web. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Show richard@ wrote: when I have captured video with elements, it's seemed to work fine, so maybe it's a matter of it doesn't like the imported DV-AVI file (at least that's the position I'm retreating to for now ... On 2/16/06, grasshopperatyourfeet Holistic_One@ wrote: So at this point... It looks like I can either put up with it or switch software editing packages? Ugg what a horrid prospect.. I like the features in Premier elements a LOT...I'll keep dinking with it and see what happens... Thanks Mike! Lisa (the Daughter) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi michael@ wrote: Here's what I did: I captured video as DV-AVI in WMM. I exported it as a DV- AVI file. These two files seemed to be exactly the same - same codes, same file size, same data rate, etc. I imported that DV-AVI file into Premiere Elements and did the export movie thing. I tried a number of settings - Defaults, and custom. I got a file that looks to be DV except that the size of the file is very small 180MB vs 360MB and the data rate is of course lower 30.30mbits/sec vs 57.50mbits/sec I don't see a way to correct that. I think that's the difference in quality that your daughter is talking about. -Verdi On 2/16/06, Richard Show richard@ wrote: export movie (althlough it's hard for me to imagine I know something michael doesn't, so I'm probably wrong :) On 2/16/06, Michael Verdi michael@ wrote: I would love to give you an answer but it does seem that Premiere Elements is doing something weird. When I export movie and select DV-AVI or Quicktime and configure it for DV I get a file that is only a little more than half the file size of my original DV file. What's going on? I don't know and unfortunately I don't have time to figure it out right now. Anyone have some insight? -Verdi On 2/16/06, grasshopperatyourfeet Holistic_One@ wrote: Richard, When I was using Movie maker I was doing exactly that... But it seems as though Adobe doesn't allow you to export it as an AVI file? Perhaps I've completely lost my marbles I can double check it and see what happens but when I tried it yesterday it wouldn't let me. Maybe I didn't hit the right button... I'm a bit absentminded when I get to the end of a project
[videoblogging] Re: My Alter Ego's Vlog
It worked for me even with the www. I liked the use of BW. The music choices were really good. It was fun. I had a little trouble understanding the dead guy's (I'm sorry Richard's) words -- lot of background noise. -David --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: first of all, it's ravensspace.blogspot.com (there's not a www - it doesn't work with the www) second of all, I have to say, I'm glad that I subscribe to the yahoo vlog list, so that I can find out what my wife and daughter are up to while I'm at work as for the video, I have to say ... good lord ... you people are sick ... creative but clearly deranged :) ... ... signed ... Lisa's Father ... On 2/16/06, grasshopperatyourfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay so here: www.ravensspace.blogspot.com My Alter Ego has a vlog of it's own! hope you enjoy our first post: The Vlog Widow Starring none other than Richard's Wife that's right Mrs. Show herself! Cheers! Lisa AKA: Richard's Daughter Yahoo! Groups Links -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: stickam
Not sure, but I think the most restrictive CC license protects your commecial rights to your productions and only permits them to be copied and uploaded for non-commercial use. -David --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/15/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following Creative Commons Licensing is very important so we can create a true remix culture. That's very important to you, but not to all of us. I stopped CC licensing some time ago and now go with a standard copyright (as I have done on my writing and photos ever since I began publishing); I may, someday, want to do something else with my stuff that requires it not to be CC. I wouldn't mind being remixed - indeed, I'd be flattered - but it's not the be- all and end-all of my ambitions for my videos. if its all just streaming Flash...id be very worried. I'm all for whatever makes it easiest for the majority. Now you guys can go off and argue about what that is. grin -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Pricing Media (difficult question)
John Wanamaker, the founder of Macy's said, I know half my advertising is wasted, I just don't know which half. Big advertising agencies use very sophisticated math models and software to plan, execute and manage their ad buys for their clients. They can track the effectiveness of every ad in every media with a great deal of accuracy and precision. And yet and ad with an old lady saying where's the beef, or a bunch of young urban men saying, wassup can capture the attention of the audience and blow all those metrics out of the water. As Internet advertising came online, a concomitant push for performance-measured advertising also developed. Advertisers got hard-nosed and wanted a proven ROI for every dollar spent. Well, where's the beef and wassup? Advertising is an art and a science. Get your head too buried in the statistics and you miss the point that really good creative execution can make those metrics meaningless. Ignore the numbers and you end up with wonderful art that sells nothing. -David The Captain Humphreys Project: A Man Alone. Around The World. The Smallest Boat. A World Record. http://www.captainhumphreys.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With time shifting, I would think the value (or more the lack of value) of not only the content changes but also the ad, probably more so. A company can go out of business, change hands, change products, and would probably have a new version of the product at a later date. If the ad was generic enough it may have longer pertinence. But I would think the ad would be less meaningful and valuable to the company paying for it in time. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r robert.videoblogging@ wrote: Adam, correct, the time-shift thing is very true, I'm thinking the pricing of the forward commodity, the advert, are and time- shifting are both in that equation some where. In the past, when calculating CPM and such the time-shift was not as significant because the media was better controlled. And today, when you lose control of the media you can't control first-run vs re-run pricing in the same way, if at all. Further, continuing with the RB example, they chose to sell a weeks worth, which bundles mondays, tuesdays, etc and makes a unit. They could have auctioned just next monday and separately next tuesday, but they didn't. They made a conscious decision to sell a strip, which homogenises the price. Is a friday worth more than a tuesday? Who knows. If you watch the RB episode manufactured on tuesday time- shifted to friday is it worth more? If you watch it a year from now what is that advert worth? And they chose the length of the strip as a risk / reward decision. What if RB had sold a months worth of adverts as a block. If they had, RB would have had less risk, though they may have received a lower price. Risk/reward at work there too. Seems like there's a lot of blending going on in new media pricing. This is not totally new science, however it is good to think about in the context of vlog economics. On Feb 15, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: On 2/15/06, robert a/k/a r robert.videoblogging@ wrote: Obviously such variable pricing works because the number of seats in the theatre is limited and they have a half life. It's not dissimilar to the freshness of vegetables on the shelf at the grocer which expire or the freshness of media. If a seat in the theatre goes unsold it's not recoverable. If a bunch of carrots go unsold they are not recoverable. What happens to the price for a show on the Internet once it is no longer fresh, can it still be sold as new? Can a secondary market develop and, if so, how will it work? One of the things that internet distribution has going for it is the ability to time-shift the media, which cuts into this theory a little bit. Although for shows like Rocketboom that deal with current events, or news shows, I guess the carrot analogy holds true. Most stuff I watch doesn't necessarily lose value as time goes by. Sites like the NYtimes charge people for archive diving. Maybe there's something there. The latest week's worth of media is freely distributable by all the available means, but anything older than a week costs X, where X is a reasonable price for a short video that someone wants to watch. AQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Ourmedia problems (was Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bandwidth
I uploaded to Ourmedia and am pretty sure my files ended up on Internet Archive. I think the Internet Archive is a wonderful idea and service and I commend the people behind it. I find it a little slow when downloading either because they have a small pipe, overloaded servers or just a whole bunch of concurrent users during peak hours. -David The Captain Humphreys Project: A Man Alone. Around The World. The Smallest Boat. A World Record. http://www.captainhumphreys.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, B Yen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 12, 2006, at 8:58 AM, David Howell wrote: *meh* It looks like Ourmedia has it's share of problems as well. Just tried to upload a 6 meg video both with their site and with their upload tool and it failed. The upload tool just plain crapped out and crashed. Numerous times. According to their forums, looks like others are having multiple problems there as well. I've been using Ourmedia for big audio files (17mb -45mb). Just recently (last weekend), I spent 12 frustrating hours trying to get a 17mb .m4a (AAC encode) file to work on my video-podcast. (see http:// jumplive.blogspot.com). I left a post on Ourmedia forums: http://www.ourmedia.org/node/158779 Turns out, their server is not returning MIME type audio/mpeg for these files..just text! (it was returning audio/mpeg as of Jan 17). As a result, Feedburner couldn't create an enclosure for these audio files. The older audio files (from Jan 17) weren't being returned as audio/ mpeg either. I finally had to re-upload them to my own server, change the MIME settings. It's back fine now, showing up on my iTunes video-podcast (Use Feedburner/Troubleshootize/Podmedic to confirm that enclosures are being created). You have to use Ourmedia Publisher (separate program) for files 10mb or larger..otherwise your files won't load. This program is kinda quirky on my Powerbook BY Very few things come for free. Think I am going to use my own host then start paying for the extra bandwidth if/when that time comes. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi michael@ wrote: Lots and lots of people use Ourmedia.org and/or Blip.tv We have a tutorial for Ourmedia on Freevlog.org - http://freevlog.org/#Step3and http://freevlog.org/#step4 We don't have one for Blip yet but it's easy enough to figure out. -Verdi On 2/12/06, davecircumnavigator david@ wrote: My videos are ~10 meg. I'm using 1and1 and looking at significant amounts of money in bandwidth charges if my user base expands (which I'm hoping it does). Does anyone have advice on a way around the bandwidth issues of serving up video? Glenn, my web guy, contacted a service that was offering unlimited bandwidth but they said that was an old promotion, from before video blogs and they won't honor it anymore. Yahoo! Groups Links -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://evilvlog.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Just a Blip in the dark? - Affirmative...
More news about Blip.tv and it's load carrying abilities: The people at Blip sent me a very nice and encouraging email that I gather was as a result of following this group's threads and reading our posts. It's obvious from that correspondence that they care very much about their service and performance. In addition, my partner has been in touch with their hosting/bandwidth provider about serving our own site and it's clear from his correspondence with their hosting service that they are working with blip and others to try to ammeliorate the bandwidth challenges posed by our big media files. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, this is disappointing. Not anything against the blip crew, as they gave me my start as well. It bums me out. don't quite know what to do now. Any word on how this is going to play out? ron On Feb 12, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, davecircumnavigator david@ wrote: Apparently the hosting service for blip is maxed out. I'm not using deduction here, one of my partners was in contact with them and they say that blip is sucking up their resources big time. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson k9disc@ wrote: I get a weird QT faded screen with question mark. I take it this is a timeout? Anybody know what's going on? I am in upstate NY. I haven't been able to reach them at all for about 2 hours and all my links to them hang. This is true for other blogs I have tried. I am surprised that there has not been any other discussion on this list about that. Too early in the morning? I really hope that this is just a blip and not a more prolonged problem They have been providing a major service as a gateway to video blogging. I don't know what their business model is, but I hope they can keep going. They certainly got me started! Stan Hirson SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Public Access TV and Videoblogging
I got started in video in a Public Access class given by Jay last fall. I used Public Access equipment to produce my first videos. I love the fact that Jay is pushing Community TV to embrace video blogs. It could lead to very interesting times and innovations. How, exactly, will the video blogger leverage Community TV and vice- versa? What will that look and how will it be used? I can say for myself, that having started with MNN classes, I will soon deliver programming to them that I owe them. With 20+ 3 minute daily videos on my website, I'm now in a position to cut two 1/2 hour specials to air on the Community TV station that got me started. What that does for me is to potentially get my programming in front of new audiences (potentially 600,000 hhlds in Manhattan). For the TV station, it gives them more diverse programming about the people and things happening in the community they serve. Great stuff. I'm not sure that marries the two mediums to best effect, but it's a start. I'm eager to see what happens. -David The Captain Humphreys Project: A Man Alone. Around The World. The Smallest Boat. A World Record. http://www.captainhumphreys.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After 2 years of pushing and pleading, my Community TV station has finally embraced videoblogging: http://mnn.org/vlog.html I encourage anyone in NYC to come. Free classes will begin in March. Public Access TV and videoblogging are a perfect match for me. Here in Manhattan, we have a public space with great, free equipment. we also have a place to center organizing and advocacy. I have started a group for public access workers and producers to discuss reinvigorating Community TV with what we've been doing in this group. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UnitedStations/ I encourage anyone interested in this area to help me push videoblogging into Public Access TV. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://FireAnt.tv http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Just a Blip in the dark? - Affirmative...
Thanks Mike. I'm using Blip.tv and I hope you guys succeed. We got 800+ viewings of our videos in less than 12 hours when we uploaded our content to you guys within the last week. We're happy about that because we want viewers for all our hard work. We're self-funded too. More competitors for big media, more better. -David The Captain Humphreys Project: A Man Alone. Around The World. The Smallest Boat. A World Record. http://www.captainhumphreys.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, mikehudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, Just so you know, we're working to get more capacity online and to distribute our load more efficiently between our existing ISPs. We should have some more progress in this direction today and tommorrow, and more and more over the course of the next week. We've experienced a great (and relatively unanticipated) surge in usage this week. We're growing very quickly, and it's hard to keep up with the demand while we're self-funded, but we're doing it... and we'll keep doing it. If you have trouble, please IM me on AIM as mikehudack or you can drop me an e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yours, Mike Co-founder, blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan sulleleven@ wrote: the vlog clog. the video hosting biz is a tough one. it may not seem so because there is a period when they all can handle the load but it only gets heavier, more costly and potentially less stable everyday... requiring periodic upgrades to scale up the service. this is why bit torrent will inevitably be more widely used and needed. remember free netzero internet access and others? are they free today? sull On 2/12/06, Ron Watson k9disc@ wrote: Yeah, this is disappointing. Not anything against the blip crew, as they gave me my start as well. It bums me out. don't quite know what to do now. Any word on how this is going to play out? ron On Feb 12, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, davecircumnavigator david@ wrote: Apparently the hosting service for blip is maxed out. I'm not using deduction here, one of my partners was in contact with them and they say that blip is sucking up their resources big time. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson k9disc@ wrote: I get a weird QT faded screen with question mark. I take it this is a timeout? Anybody know what's going on? I am in upstate NY. I haven't been able to reach them at all for about 2 hours and all my links to them hang. This is true for other blogs I have tried. I am surprised that there has not been any other discussion on this list about that. Too early in the morning? I really hope that this is just a blip and not a more prolonged problem They have been providing a major service as a gateway to video blogging. I don't know what their business model is, but I hope they can keep going. They certainly got me started! Stan Hirson SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=OHeQJK by66gg3t35np-qiw Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=hK8TfZa7C lhTIxDJdP6Cbw Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=fljF53rXtnOMj mpIySYbqA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=OHeQJK by66gg3t35np-qiw Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=hK8TfZa7C lhTIxDJdP6Cbw Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=fljF53rXtnOMj mpIySYbqA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- - - - - Sull http://vlogdir.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http
[videoblogging] Bandwidth
My videos are ~10 meg. I'm using 1and1 and looking at significant amounts of money in bandwidth charges if my user base expands (which I'm hoping it does). Does anyone have advice on a way around the bandwidth issues of serving up video? Glenn, my web guy, contacted a service that was offering unlimited bandwidth but they said that was an old promotion, from before video blogs and they won't honor it anymore. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Just a Blip in the dark? - Affirmative...
Apparently the hosting service for blip is maxed out. I'm not using deduction here, one of my partners was in contact with them and they say that blip is sucking up their resources big time. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get a weird QT faded screen with question mark. I take it this is a timeout? Anybody know what's going on? I am physically located in Michigan, and my ISP is charter. ron On Feb 11, 2006, at 2:41 AM, Ron Watson wrote: yes... On Feb 11, 2006, at 2:09 AM, David Howell wrote: Is anyone else getting timeouts on their videos on Blip? David http://www.taoofdavid.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: 88SLIDE.com - New daily video podcast...
Nice graphics. Good idea. I'll bet you get some viral interest. Please let us (this list, me) know how you do. I'm part of a group with a new daily video blog. So we're interested in knowing what you're doing that's working for you. We'll share information on what works for us, too. For example, I'm so new to this list, I didn't know it was okay to post a thread saying come check out my new stuff, so I refrained. But now that you have and it seems okay, I'm going to do just that. I want everyone to come, check out my site and give me feedback. -David www.captainhumphreys.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Noah Bonnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really appreciate the positive feedback regarding 88SLIDE (http://www.88slide.com) I'll forward your comment to our host, Rachel. Our iTunes downloads continue to grow! We, er - I, am providing the prize from out-of-pocket now, but would always be into a sponsor, if it worked seamlessly and wasn't too cheesy. We're getting entries from all over the country; its truly amazing! Thanks again, Noah Executive Producer, 88SLIDE --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg jkinberg@ wrote: Cool show. Nice format. Just wanted to let you know that 88Slide is not only available in iTunes: http://fireant.tv/directory/channel/7773? -Josh http://FireAnt.tv On 2/9/06, Pete Prodoehl raster@ wrote: Kunga wrote: Very cool execution. How do you afford to give away the $10 cards every day? The on camera talent is outstanding. I'm guessing they figure the $10 into the promotional costs of the whole thing. Seems like a good idea. I'm sure it pulls in the audience, since the kids seem to love them the iTunes Music Store... And just think, if Rocketboom upped their daily costs from $20 to $30 they could do this too! :) Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: 88SLIDE.com - New daily video podcast...
Noah: When I went to see the archives, I noticed that you're using blip for your archives. This is something captainhumphreys has been looking at doing. But, I literally can't get your archive files. The status bar just keeps crawling across for 10 minutes and no file comes over. I alert you because you should be aware and I'm wondering about blip as a solution now myself. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, davecircumnavigator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice graphics. Good idea. I'll bet you get some viral interest. Please let us (this list, me) know how you do. I'm part of a group with a new daily video blog. So we're interested in knowing what you're doing that's working for you. We'll share information on what works for us, too. For example, I'm so new to this list, I didn't know it was okay to post a thread saying come check out my new stuff, so I refrained. But now that you have and it seems okay, I'm going to do just that. I want everyone to come, check out my site and give me feedback. -David www.captainhumphreys.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Noah Bonnett nbonnett@ wrote: Really appreciate the positive feedback regarding 88SLIDE (http://www.88slide.com) I'll forward your comment to our host, Rachel. Our iTunes downloads continue to grow! We, er - I, am providing the prize from out-of-pocket now, but would always be into a sponsor, if it worked seamlessly and wasn't too cheesy. We're getting entries from all over the country; its truly amazing! Thanks again, Noah Executive Producer, 88SLIDE --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg jkinberg@ wrote: Cool show. Nice format. Just wanted to let you know that 88Slide is not only available in iTunes: http://fireant.tv/directory/channel/7773? -Josh http://FireAnt.tv On 2/9/06, Pete Prodoehl raster@ wrote: Kunga wrote: Very cool execution. How do you afford to give away the $10 cards every day? The on camera talent is outstanding. I'm guessing they figure the $10 into the promotional costs of the whole thing. Seems like a good idea. I'm sure it pulls in the audience, since the kids seem to love them the iTunes Music Store... And just think, if Rocketboom upped their daily costs from $20 to $30 they could do this too! :) Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: blip down??!!
Does anyone have technical information on Blip? What kind of bandwidth do they have? How many concurrent users can the support to view a 20mb video? The service they are offering is amazing. But it might also cost a pretty penny to provide. I'd like to know what their infrastructure is? -David my emai: [EMAIL PROTECTED] my website vlog: http://www.captainhumphreys.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might have flicked off that light switch in my living room earlier this evening. I *knew* it did something. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r robert.videoblogging@ wrote: i hate when that happens On Feb 10, 2006, at 12:23 AM, David Howell wrote: Chicago has disappeared... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: blip down??!!
Does anyone have technical information on Blip? What kind of bandwidth do they have? How many concurrent users can the support to view a 20mb video? The service they are offering is amazing. But it might also cost a pretty penny to provide. I'd like to know what their infrastructure is? -David my emai: [EMAIL PROTECTED] my website vlog: http://www.captainhumphreys.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might have flicked off that light switch in my living room earlier this evening. I *knew* it did something. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r robert.videoblogging@ wrote: i hate when that happens On Feb 10, 2006, at 12:23 AM, David Howell wrote: Chicago has disappeared... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Podfading
In response to Christian's post I ask: Can't the videoblogger repost a video to the RSS feed? I'm a little ignorant of the way all this works -- just started and a partner is doing the technical matters -- but can't the video producer just decide to rebroadcast and point the RSS feed at an old piece of content, thus re-syndicating it? It would be my decision as the producer to re-syndicate. I might risk boring my feed users so they cut off my feed if I repeat too many times, but I think it is, technically, an option. Ryan and Christian are correct, I think, that the forms of radio and TV will be copied to some extent because of familiarity, because they work, because they give us a model to use, etc. In fact, I'm using just such a format which is something like the Rocketboom format, which is something like announced TV. And I think it's a great thing that we can use the old forms for our new purposes. I also think it's a great thing that the videobloggin medium does not necessarily have to copy those old forms. A lot of the videoblogs I've seen look like art to me more than TV. I'm thinking of one, I think Steve Garfield shot it. Someone put a giant piece of chalk on the street in Boston and someone (I think Steve Garfield) shot the results of people interacting with the chalk. It was fun, different, and definately not TV material. I would call it art. And I'm happy videoblogging permits and makes available this type of expression. I can't say I know as much about podcasts because I've never really subscribed, I jumped to videoblogging. Anyway, I go on and on ... -David www.captainhumphreys.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Christian Wach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8 Feb 2006, at 01:18, Ryan Ozawa wrote: Just as podcasters get grief for trying to re-do radio, I think a lot of videobloggers/video podcasters are being pigeonholed as trying to re-do TV. I agree - well put, Ryan! One one hand, those paradigms have merit, and definitely help folks new to podcasting/videoblogging get a handle on what we're doing. But I definitely don't think we're specifically trying to do the same old thing -- many of us just start with the conventions and formats because we're familiar with them, because some people expect them, and yes, some people like them. Again, I agree - and this is why I've been arguing that video- blogging aggregators ought to offer a number of different ways of approaching the material. Content flagged through RSS seems so transient - there is very little emphasis on what happens once the content drops off the end of a feed. Archiving is one thing, but wouldn't it be great if we could re-run the video-blog/podcast? Current thinking of the way RSS aggregators work favours the kind of show that, ooh say, Rocketboom produces - but is not necessarily appropriate for a multitude of other types of content. Christian -- Christian Wach Current Location: Bristol, UK Football: http://spiritoffootball.com Homepage: http://haystack.co.uk Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom Changes?
I am planning on spending some money on promotion. Specifically, I'm planning on sending out a press release. Why? Because I want viewers. Why? Because I need them if my project is going to work. Specifically I'm planning on sending a release via PR newswire. It should cost about $300. If anyone knows a better or cheaper way to send out a release or get viewers interested (assuming my content is interesting) -- please let me know. I think you can send a release to AP at no cost, but it's not guaranteed to run. If anyone wants to know the results of my efforts, I'll be happy to share the information. My attitude about the monetization of videoblogs is this: I'm all for it and happy that it will remain unnecessary for a long time to come and hopefully indefinitely. This may seem schizophrenic, but I assure you it makes sense. I want to raise money from my videoblog to make my project happen. So I like that Rocketboom is now monetizing their videos and sharing with all of us the information about how they're doing it. That's very generous of them. But I also recognize that there are a lot of videoblogs that don't need to generate a great deal of funds in order to add value to the world. There are plenty of videoblogs that are personal, artistic, idiosyncratic, political, etc. that can survive and thrive without being commercial. And I think it's a good thing that both types exist. Well I do go on and on. If anyone wants to follow up with me to find out the results of my efforts, my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] -David --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amanda Congdon wrote: For the record, we spend $0 on promotion-- unless time spent producing our videos equals time spent promoting? And time, of course, equals money? I can see that, but I think our about page is much more literal. We don't spend money on advertising or a PR person, that's what that statement on our site is all about. The fact is, we have never sent out a single e-mail promoting our site, aside from ones to this list. We spend our time making videos. Would t-shirts be considered promotion? Did they cost nothing to make? Rocketboom being successful early on probably helped in the zero dollars promotion, as it was the subject of news stories and lots of buzz from people, those who come later will most likely not benefit from such attention. Look at podcasting, it's still easy as heck to get up and running today, but to get noticed? It takes work... Back in September of 2004 if you had a podcast, chances are that everyone interested in podcasting (a few hundred people?) knew about it. Personally I think it's interesting to see where Rocketboom is going, just as I'm interested to see where The Dawn and Drew Show is going, and how it all ties into the new world of media I've been dreaming about for years and years. The barriers to entry have gotten lower, and they are still low, and let's hope they stay low. As far as promotion, has anyone involved in videoblogging spent any money on promotion? In what way? Did it pay off? Did it meet your expectations? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: ABC Blogapalooza Report
Funny arithmetic: I like I like. For a long time blogs have scared me. Before starting my own, I cruised the blogosphere to see what's what. I get lost. I get confused. I get cranky. There are so many blogs with so many words and pictures and so many of them link to one another and appear to be about such infinitesimal, solipsistic concerns, I get depressed. Recently a friend quoted a study that said more and more American's are writing: novels; poems; short stories; blogs. At the same time, fewer and fewer are reading. Are we becoming a nation world that is shouting at one another with no one listening? That's what I feel when I go for a jaunt around the blogosphere. It depresses me. And I recently started my own blog, although I must say, it's not about how scary the blogosphere is. -David --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ahh but remember: a picture is worth a thousand words...and our pictures move! ;) 1,961 * 1,000 * 1000 = r0xx0r On 2/8/06, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Yesterday's ABC News Video Podcast: 27.2 Million blogs October 2005 there were only 19.6 million blogs growth of almost 8 million in the past 3 months 75,000 new blogs every day a new one created every second every hour bloggers post 50,000 new entries total number of blogs doubles every 5.5 months or so Xeni Jardin of Wired Magazine comments on camera - (wow is she ever stunning) - : What makes a blog great is how much of the character of the person behind that blog you're really able to feel. 27 million, that's a lot of characters. reports Dan Harris from New York. It's no wonder these video blogs are hard to find in that maze of text blogs. Makes me feel like we are a pretty small type of blog given the size of this list is still only 1,961 members. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=OHeQJK by66gg3t35np-qiw Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=hK8TfZa7C lhTIxDJdP6Cbw Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=fljF53rXtnOMj mpIySYbqA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Ted Tagami Principal, Universus Networks U N I V E R S U S . N E T Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom Changes?
While I understand Matt's wariness and dislike of commercial intrusion in video blogs because it could, possibly, lead to the same mediocre tendencies we wee in mainstream media I ask that he give us video bloggers a little latitude. It's a pretty significant investment of time and energy to make this type of programming and we need to eat and even profit from our productive energies. And I don't think that individuals like Andrew and Ms. Kitka (who also wants to monetize her videos, no?) will be corrupted in the same way as mainstream media have been by the advertiser. That's why Andrew is reserving the right to refuse any offer. I'm not omitting the possibility that there will be Internet producers who are seduced by the almighty dollar to change their programming. But I think those seduced will lose their audience and the Internet will remain a place where truly independent voices will always be able to express themselves. Why can't we earn a buck at the same time? I'll be very happy to see RB or Ms. Kitka or myself monetize our videos. I'm a big fan of all 3 programs. -David www.captainhumphreys.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ESPN.com's Motion averages about $25 CPM, but the advertiser buys complete sections for a given amount of time and their ad is usually shown in a rotation on almost all ESPN videos. Feed-based vlogs do not have this option because the video is downloaded rather than streamed - meaning the ad is built right into the video and not dynamically served. When ESPN.com sells branded video, they charge more like $50 CPM. In my opinion, RB (or any other vlog) is not worth these numbers. The viewership of RB isn't very niche - it is more like a normal TV audience with a broad audience. Maybe you could call their viewers techies, but I'm not sure that is necessarily true. Also, the demand of RB to develop the ad themselves is a big risk for the advertiser. Companies have marketing teams for a reason - they supposedly know their product best (or at least better than RB does). In addition, downloads do not equal viewers so the measurement of impressions is very hard to calculate, especially with so many iTunes users who have to suffer the poor usability of keeping up w/ multiple feeds. My point - I'll believe in vlog ads when I see it. Then again, I'll probably be turned off by whoever does it. The beauty of vlog watching for me is that it is not commercial. Just my two cents. -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ms. Kitka mskitka@ wrote: I'd be interested to see what the CPMs are like for ads playing on MSN Video before news segments. There must be a market out there that already has a set CPM rate, but the cost is probably similar to advertising on television because sites like MSN are gargantuan! Still, that does not negate the value of RB since CPMs work proportionately to your audience size. Besides, how do you put a value on ad space in videoblogs? Audio podcast time isn't as valuable because you can make an audio show that goes on for one hour... but video space is more valuable because of how quickly the size of the show escalates. It's hard to compress a show to a reasonable size and keep it looking good. A 30-second ad at the end of a 3 minute show like RB is a considerable size... so why not demand high CPMs? What Andrew is doing now is setting the market for the future of videoblogging. Let's watch, see what happens and offer our assistance when needed... this is what the community should be. Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, T.Whid twhid@ wrote: Andrew thinks the show is worth $50 - $150, that doesn't make it so (or not so). There is a market for online video advertising and the price is much lower than $50. Andrew believes that RB-type of video is a whole new market that hasn't had a price set for it yet (please correct me if I'm wrong). That's the purpose of an auction, it creates the price. The price is what the market decides it wants to pay for it. Of course, Andrew doesn't have to accept whatever this price turns out to be. On 2/7/06, Kunga kunga@ wrote: Absolutely. There is no incentive for Andrew and Amanda to accept less than the true market value of their space. They have the option of going through ad agencies to get that if they want. -- On Feb 7, 2006, at 6:33 AM, Ms. Kitka wrote: Well, $15,000 isn't a lot of money for a high profile show like Rocketboom. As Andrew has previously mentioned, RB has already been talking about CPMs from $50-150. If this is so, why would RB submit to such a low paycheck when they're already having offers of much more?
[videoblogging] Re: Has RB Started A Trend In WebVideo Advertising?
Well I'm new here and joined for just this kind of conversation, so ... When we try to assess if RB or anyone else can repeat the sale, how does this event compare with the first sale of banner ads, or the first sale of a print advertising in a magazine, or the first Internet IPO? There may be an element of fad or craze to this sale because of RBs buzz, but I'm hoping that it's the beginning of a new market, too. Good for RB for capitalizing on the first mover advantage, I say, but there's always a second mover and a market to follow, no? -David --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm saying that I think this is very innovative. You only get one chance to be first. RB should receive good word of mouth and buzz from this event (and so should the purchaser of the ad space), but I wouldn't expect anyone else to get that same kind of buzz for being second in line... or third, or 103rd. Its like being the second person to walk on the moon (who was that guy? Everyone knows Neil Armstrong's famous words, but what about the other guy... uhhh, yeah, what Neil said... If only he'd gotten out of the lunar pod first!). Now, if this advertising approah were attempted for something like the Super Bowl, then that's another story... -Josh On 2/2/06, T.Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Michael, I don't see the logic in Josh's statement. I agree that there aren't that many vlogs or podcasts that could garner the amount of money we're seeing in the RB action ($15k right now, reserve not met). But RB can and will be able to do it again. Sure, the first company that buys the ad space will get some free press so perhaps the price will be inflated on this first auction. But if RB continues this means of ad sales a price will stabilize out of it and it might surprise us all how much that price is... On 2/2/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh, Care to ellaborate why you think *if* this auction is a success that it cannot be duplicated again for at least 1 of the several remaining weeks in 2006? For that matter, even if this auction does not work agreements cannot be made etc... then why would this hinder future attempts at finding an auction winner that rboom can and will work with? Thanks, Sull On 2/2/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hate to be a naysayer, but I doubt it will work as well for anyone except RB, and it will likely only work for them this once. This is why its good to be an innovator... first only happens once. -Josh On 2/1/06, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All those guys with 'vlog magic' infomercials online can now add this step to their innovativie easy-to-use five step program, lol On 2/1/06, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here we go... The genie is out of the bottle now. -- Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On Feb 1, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Jack Olmsted wrote: Inspired by Rocketbooms three day success auctioning off 5-days of advertising time in March through eBay, Technology Evangelist has set up their own eBay page for exclusive ad placement in five of their upcoming HD videos. -Jack http://view-point.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service .
