Re: RE: Personal Laser Writer

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That could work, but something to watch out for is older JetDirect servers, 
both the external and MIO slot, and some EIO slot versions use JAVA. Thus you 
must have JAVA support in a web browser to configure them GUI style. No JAVA 
support on yer fancy new operating system or smartphone? You get to learn to 
use a terminal program. Later JetDirects and printers with built in servers use 
something-not-JAVA that works with web browsers that don't have JAVA support.

   On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 5:50:00 AM MDT, Wesley Furr  
wrote:  
 Netatalk sharing won't work with newer Macs? How about an external HP 
JetDirect print server with a parallel port?  I would expect they are pretty 
cheap on the used market these days... Wesley  

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Re: Digest for vintage-macs@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

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Which model of iMac? The ones with a PowerPC CPU are pretty useless these days, 
especially for online stuff since all the web browsers have dropped support for 
the last OS X version that runs on them.
 

On Saturday, May 19, 2018, 8:32:37 AM MDT,  wrote:  
 
 Hi I have An iMac that just won’t turn on and be willing to send it to someone 
for shipping fees. I had three experiences with an Apple Store the first tech 
said  oh it’s out of warranty and couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t turning on. 
I had a gut feeling about it so I kept it I took it to another Apple store, 
same response. I was on my way to Rome Massachusetts, and I stopped at this 
little shop and he took a look at it. Unplugged it. Blew out the dust from the 
plug. And it worked fine. But recently it was unable to turn on so I’m thinking 
that rather than try and throwing it away that I would give it to somebody who 
might be able to use the parts or something. I would just it’s pretty heavy.  I 
would just need payment for shipping unless you unless you live near me. I’m in 
Matamoros Pennsylvania.
  

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Re: Let's talk about one of Apple's shortest lived product lines...

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To get any video capture to work on a NuBus Mac with the slow SCSI Apple used, 
you need at least a pair of fast hard drives and software like FWB Hard Disk 
Toolkit to RAID 0 stripe them. Even better is having two separate SCSI buses 
and striping the RAID across drives on both.
 
I used to have a Radius 81/110 tower with Media 100 boards. The only way to get 
it to work was an FWB RAID 0 across four drives, two on the internal only bus 
and two on the external/internal bus. All the drives had to be Fast SCSI2. 
Initially I had one IBM drive that looked all slick and expensive and fast, yet 
benchmarked at a pitiful 1 megabyte/second write speed. When its turn came in 
the array, *kachunk*! Too slow. After replacing that one it was finally able to 
maintain the higher than 4MB/sec write speed to capture NTSC video at 150K per 
frame. Thanks to Apple's foulup with the SCSI hardware in the x100 series 
(which was replicated in all the clones, and only partly fixed in the 110Mhz 
models) Media 100 could not use a NuBus SCSI controller like the ones from ATTO 
or FWB.

   So what some people would do is use a Quadra 950AV or 840AV with a fancy 
SCSI card and whatever ADB dongle was required to enable highest quality 
capture, then move the captured video over to a PowerMac and second M100 kit 
with all the dongles to enable all features for editing, doing FX, rendering 
etc. Extra expensive having two M100 kits, but you could have one person just 
minding the raw capturing system while an editor edited.
 
On Thursday, May 17, 2018, 4:15:00 AM MDT, Kevin  wrote:  
 I bought a Centris 660AV in August 1993 as an upgrade to my IIci. Actually, i 
wanted the 840AV but they were not in stock and i was in a rush so went with 
the 660. Much to my chagrin, it did not work well with a number of my software 
titles of the time. If i recall correctly, i had to use the little control 
panel to turn off the 040 cache in order to make MOST of my software work 
(MacroModel and Infini-D). Later version of the software made the machine much 
more usable although the video capture was all but useless, even with a faster 
Micropolis drive. That being said, i do remember grabbing some video frames 
with it.

Still got her up and running back home. Kinda kool to have a machine that was 
technically only sold for a few months. Thanks for the flashback.  

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USB 2.0 drivers for classic Mac OS. How hard could it be?

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Mac OS 8.1 and later support USB 1.0 / 1.1 but no company or independent 
software developers could be bothered to consider writing USB 2.0 drivers for 
those OS versions - not even the guy who wrote USB Overdrive to support many 
peripherals that neither Apple nor the device manufacturers would deign to 
support on Macintosh.
Why the massive disinterest? There was a period of time between the 
introduction of USB 2.0 and when OS X began to not suck that someone could've 
made some decent income selling a USB 2.0 controller driver for Mac OS 8.1 and 
9.x.x.
Since the Classic OS and the Macs it runs on have slipped into the hobbyist and 
collector, how about a second look? Hackers keep figuring out way to hook up 
all kinds of new technologies to old computers far more primitive than an old 
Macintosh - but the old Macintoshes are all but ignored by such hobbyists.
The easiest place to start would be a driver for the NEC USB 2.0 chips on PCI 
boards, installed in PCI PowerMacs running OS 9.x.x. For the VIA chips, all 
most anyone could ever get working with them on Mac was a keyboard and mouse. 
If it's a hardware issue the problems are likely unfixable. If Apple's USB 1 
driver is just that bad with VIA, then there may be hope, but it'd involve also 
fixing USB 1 support.
Easier to write a USB 2 driver for NEC than to do that *and* fix USB 1 for VIA.

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Re: Let's talk about one of Apple's shortest lived product lines...

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Most of them got a speed bump when they dropped the Centris name. Some of them 
were badly crippled in their hardware design for no good reason, except perhaps 
to prod more tech savvy customers to buy more expensive models.
 

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018, 6:42:17 PM MDT, superstar64 
 wrote:  
 
 The Macintosh Centris. I felt like starting a discussion about this, seeing as 
I recently found a fully working Macintosh Centris 660av from eBay. I actually 
made this video unboxing it (watch if you want I don't care: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lddp3vMa4hc ), and then I decided to start this 
discussion. You don't have to have one to talk about this topic, but you should 
have some basic knowledge at least about the line. Anyways, let's talk about 
the Macintosh Centris/Quadra 610, 650, 660av, or Macintosh IIvx.
  

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Re: Anyone ever used Ultra320 drives in their vintage Macs?

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Yup. I've used SCA80 drives with adapters in various vintage Macs.
 

On Thursday, April 26, 2018, 8:30:37 AM MDT, Christian Wacker 
 wrote:  
 
 I've got a Mac Classic with a nearly failed drive and a whole pile of Ultra160 
and Ultra320 drives. Converters to plug an Ultra drive into a standard SCSI 
system are around $10 shipped.

Has anyone ever been successful installing one of these drives into a vintage 
mac?
  

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Re: Trying to move .sit files to classic Mac over serial connection

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A new enough version of Stuffit Expander should automatically apply a new 
resource fork to sit files that have lost theirs. All that is in a sit's 
resource fork is the type and creator codes and the icon. But you have to 
launch Expander and open the file, or create a desktop alias to Expander then 
drop the forkless sit file on it. That's when Expander will apply a new 
resource fork.

MacBinary and BinHex are safe ways to transfer classic Mac files over the 
internet. MacBinary (BIN) encodes the file to 8 bit text. BinHex (HQX) encodes 
the file to 7 bit text, but the files will be about 1/8th larger than MacBinary.

Why there are two different ways is due to the nature of the early internet. 
Back when it started the majority of communication across it was in text, 
*English* text. Since it was Americans who invented most of this stuff, they 
used ASCII. American Standard Code for Information Interchange. All the ASCII 
codes for the English alphabet, numbers and common punctuation have a 0 at one 
end of the byte. I'd have to look it up to see which end. To cut transmission 
time and bandwidth usage by 1/8th the early internet systems only transmitted 
the 7 important bits of each byte because that 8th bit was *always zero*. Thus 
the destination system could simply stick a zero on every byte and the text 
would be fine.

But then people wanted to send binary data like programs and photos. The 
systems had to be upgraded to transmit whole bytes. That took a while. If your 
binary data came through scrambled, it got routed through a 7 bit system that 
flipped every 1 in that 8th bit to a 0. You could either try finding a way to 
re-route the data to an all 8 bit path or use a text encoding method 
(UUENCODE/UUDECODE or BinHex) to use only ASCII text with 7 bit safe 
characters. Classic Mac web browsers and FTP programs can usually be setup to 
automatically decode BinHex and MacBinary.

For quite a while many websites with Mac software downloads had a couple of 
small test files, one in BIN and one in HQX, with a note to first try 
downloading the BIN to see if it came through OK. If not, try the HQX. If the 
BIN download failed you were unlucky enough to have some creaky old piece of 7 
bit equipment in the path between their server and your Mac. When connections 
were often metered for time and/or amount of data downloaded, the 1/8th larger 
BinHex files could eat into your allotment or add up to extra cost.

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018, 7:53:59 PM MDT, Todd B 
 wrote:  
 Hi,
I have no trouble moving .hqx files that I have download to my modern Mac over 
the serial line to my classic Mac, but I can't get .sit files to go. I have 
tried a few ways.
My basic technique is to transfer a file via YMODEM using Serial on the modern 
Mac and White Knight on the classic Mac. File transfer works great and for .hqx 
files I can de-hqx and go from there with no problem. 
For .sit files I have tried to transfer via YMODEM and then 1) change the 
creator to match what I expect for .sit file (SITD/SIT!) or 2) I try to binhex 
the .sit file on my modern Mac (using OldHex or one of the online tools) and 
then transfer the file to the classic Mac and try to de-hqx it there. It decdes 
from hqx fine, but the resulting .sit file isn't valid (after changing the 
creator and type).
Greatly appreciate any help.
  

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Re: Vintage Macs purge

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No reason for me to go. ;)
 

On Saturday, December 23, 2017, 3:31:29 PM MST, 'Bernie Rhoades' via 
Vintage Macs  wrote:  
 
 Please retain my address.,Bernie
On Dec 23, 2017 1:17 PM, "Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com"  
wrote:

 It's been too many years since I purged the membership list of email addresses 
that result in bounces. I am doing that today. If you end up off the list and 
wish to return, please go to https://groups.google.com/ and rejoin us.

Daniel Knight, listmom

  

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Re: Another odd problem on a common Mac...

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Something else to keep in mind is that OS 9.2.2 and older can only connect to a 
single network protocol on a single interface, without using 3rd party 
software. Macintosh wouldn't match Windows' native ability to connect to 
multiple protocols on more than one interface simultaneously until OS X came 
along.
 

On Saturday, December 9, 2017, 2:31:36 AM MST, Jason Johnson 
 wrote:  
 
 
you need the proper extention installed and classic  mac networking needs a 
10/100 router or older.  you may also need to put in ip addresses.  look up 
classic mac networking.  Also Open Transport needs installed. Without all these 
things you will have zero luck connecting to a network.
  

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Zip drive and disk problems and inspection. Re: Copying files from 9.2.2 to 10.9.5 (and 10.13.1)

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The Zip 250 should be able to read and write Zip 100 disks, but writes slower 
to 100 meg ones. The Zip 750 drives can read but not write the 100 meg 
disks.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_drive#Compatibility

One cause of the click in early Zip 100 drives is the linear actuator magnets 
are too small. External magnetic fields can cause interference which slightly 
misaligns the actuator. Later revisions of the Zip 100 had larger actuator 
magnets.

The click sound is made by the drive yanking the heads back and striking the 
bump stop. Repeated abuse like that can cause the springs mounting the heads to 
their arms to bend. When they get out of alignment enogh, the drive will no 
longer be able to read any disk. In extreme cases one or both heads will be 
bent out of position enough to catch the edge of the disk and get ripped loose. 
The torn edge of the disk can then rip the heads off of good drives. Heads bent 
out of alignment or torn off can be checked by opening the flap and having a 
look with a flashlight.

Before using any Zip disk of which you do not know the history, it's a good 
idea to hold the shutter open and turn the disk through a full revolution to 
inspect it for edge tears. A bit of tape holding the shutter open helps.
Keep all Zip drives away from CRT monitors and anything else that generates a 
magnetic or electric field.

If you're looking for an IDE Zip drive for a Mac with IDE, there were two types 
of Zip 100 using that interface. IDE and ATAPI. IDE had a black eject button 
with the activity light beside it and a hooked pull rod visible in a divot on 
the faceplate for emergency eject. The ATAPI type had a clear eject button with 
activity light shining through. Emergency eject was via a pin hole on the back 
of the drive, requiring opening the computer to use it.
I dunno which style is best for Mac use.

Collectors of odd hardware may be interested in the earliest model of internal 
SCSI Zip 100. It required a 5.25" half height drive bay. The mechanism was 3.5" 
size but it was mounted to a PCB wider than that. The eject button was a long, 
clear plastic rod which ran almost to the rear of the drive where it pushed a 
90 degree pivot to push down on a switch on the board. Like the external SCSI 
version, it only supported SCSI ID 5 and 6. Dunno why that drive was made like 
that, unless it was developed prior to the external version.
The one you don't want at all, ever, is the Zip Plus version that's supposed to 
be PC printer port and DB25 SCSI compatible, and supposed to automatically 
detect which it's plugged into. Iomega couldn't have simply outfitted the drive 
with a manual switch. 

   On Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 4:33:30 AM MST, peteru...@gmail.com 
 wrote:  
 Found an easier way around (for those cases when files are not compressed with 
DDexpand & have to be extracted first in OS9…): Merely turn file sharing on for 
the inserted & mounted Zip-disk, go to File Sharing in 10.5, enter the G3’s 
AFP-address & mount the Zip as a shared volume. Easy as pie. Then copy the 
wanted files directly to a volume shared on the Mini (10.9.5).
However, Google Photo is not supported by neither TenFourFox or the Firefox 
running on 10.5, so I have to upload pictures from the Mini. And my laptop with 
High Sierra only sees the 10.5-volumes.

As for the "Click of death": I have read severeal accounts of dying Zip drives. 
I have two working Zip drives, that usually start of with a rythmical 
click-click-click on startup.
Today, I had the drive powered on upon start of G3. Waited for G3 to wake 
entirely up, then inserted a blank Zip. After a few clicks, it mounted fine, 
amnd I could now swap Zips w/o trouble. Sometimes, I’ve had to do several 
restarts, what seemed to work once or twice was holding the mouse button down 
until the blinking diskette icon came up, then letting go and wait for the G3 
to boot. Uopn finished boot, the Zip mounted. 
Seems there is some black magic here…

I also found a Zip/250 in the basement. Tried putting a 100 mb Zip into it,  
but it spat it right out again. So I guess the 250 mb Zip drived cannot read 
100 mb-Zips…  

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Re: An old iBook, what to do with it?

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A G4 Mac is still pretty useful these days since they can use WPA2 on WiFi and 
have higher max RAM capabilities.Any G3 is not much use now, unless used only 
with older software and not online. It should be *possible* to design an 
AirPort replacement card with 802.11g and WPA2, but I doubt there'd be enough 
demand from the Mac user community to justify any sort of production run. They 
were steadfastly apathetic towards making USB 2.0 drivers for OS 9.x.x, even 
when it still had a bigger market share than OS X and there would have been 
profit to be made selling the drivers.

Apple says no, and the majority of Mac users and 3rd party Mac products 
companies say "I hear and obey!" :P
   On Sunday, December 3, 2017, 12:59:00 PM MST, Barry Cross 
 wrote:  
 
 I am using an iBook G4, its a useful machine especially as my Mac Mini is 
bereft of an internal DVD drive. And I have software for it that won't run on 
the Mini, and the latest versions price is prohibitive for a pensioner.
I have upgraded it to the maximum RAM of 1.25 Gb, the SIMMS are easy enough to 
install and to come by from somewhere like Mr. Memory which I used, I can't 
remember the price off hand but it wasn't too dear.
I have also updated the OS to 10.5, the discs were not difficult to locate and 
not that expensive, the amount escapes me but I still have all the bumf.
  

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Re: An old iBook, what to do with it?

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OK, off it goes onto Craigslist for free.
 

On Saturday, December 2, 2017, 6:43:14 AM MST, Mike K. 
 wrote:  
 
 * Gregg Eshelman wrote on 2017-12-02 06:57 +:
>The deal breaker on whether or not I want to try anything with it or 
>pass it on is whether or not the WiFi can do WPA2? If not, is there a 
>replacement card that can? Back in the day, people were upgrading the 
>PCMCIA cards in the original AirPort base station, is that possible 
>with the internal ones in these laptops?

It definitely *won't* work on WPA2.  If its firmware is up-to-date, it 
will support regular WPA.  No sure about finding a replacement card -- 
those original AirPort cards aren't the same as PCMCIA cards.

>Is it possible to get over 640 meg RAM in one?

No -- the limit is 128MB soldered + 512MB SO-DIMM.  No way to get it 
above that limit.

>Would it be at all tolerable for basic web use with 10.4.11 and Ten 
>Four Fox?

It might, but it certainly wouldn't be fast and parts of the web might 
break.  Video is out of the question.  

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An old iBook, what to do with it?

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I was given what has turned out to be a Mid 2002 12" 700 Mhz G3 iBook with 30 
gig hard drive, 256 meg RAM and an AirPort card. No charger so no idea if it 
works. Maxing the RAM with a 512meg PC100 SODIMM = easy. Hard drive upgrade, 
not so much.
The deal breaker on whether or not I want to try anything with it or pass it on 
is whether or not the WiFi can do WPA2? If not, is there a replacement card 
that can? Back in the day, people were upgrading the PCMCIA cards in the 
original AirPort base station, is that possible with the internal ones in these 
laptops?
Is it possible to get over 640 meg RAM in one?
Would it be at all tolerable for basic web use with 10.4.11 and Ten Four Fox?

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Re: Very old and odd Nubus video card

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That label likely had whatever identifying marks the board ever had. Most 
likely a copyright notice and firmware version number.
 

On Friday, December 1, 2017, 9:42:32 AM MST, mike stedman 
 wrote:  
 
 If I had to guess, the window on that chip indicates that it is probably a 
UV-erasable EEPROM. It most likely shipped with a sticker to keep it from being 
erased, which has now fallen off. I'd probably put a new sticker on there to 
block the sunlight and keep it from getting wiped.
  

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Re: Very old and odd Nubus video card

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Combine a versatile Non-VGA Video Controller like that TI chip (it also has a 
line drawing mode, I presume for vector monitors) with the Brooktree 256 color 
palette RAMDAC, along with the male DE-9* connector and I'd say you have some 
rather proprietary 8bit raster graphics display card. Most likely not a vector 
display card with an 8 bit color raster RAMDAC. ;)

Find the RAM chips and count up how much there is to get some idea of the 
maximum possible resolutions it could support at 1, 4, 16 and 8 bit color 
depths. 
 
It could be for a high resolution 1 bit monitor, but why use a DAC that's made 
for color on it? I've done some searching and the only NuBus video card I could 
find with a DE-9 is a Radius Full Page Display card, but it has a female 
instead of a male connector.
There were monitors made with a single DE-9 port and stitches to change between 
TTL mono/color and analog modes so one monitor would work with any PC video 
output, usually up to 800x600. Some also supported the oddball Mac video modes 
which were slightly larger than 640x480 or 800x600. 832x624? I still have such 
a monitor. IIRC it's the original model of NEC MultiSync. No model designation, 
just MultiSync. Has a built in cooling fan and a worn out CRT.

Analog RGB video can be done using only 8 pins. That card is certainly not 
doing any monitor identification through the connector. Might be fixed 
resolution/colors/frequency. Might support several. Given the age of it, it 
*might* use the 9 pin VGA pinout. Easy to find with google.

http://www.icpdf.com/icpdf_datasheet_5_datasheet/TMS34061FNL_pdf_1548294/#view

*There is no such thing as a DB-9 connector. The B size is the 25 pin used for 
Mac SCSI and PC parallel and 25 pin serial ports. The Mac video connector 
before Apple adopted the VGA standard was a DA-15, also used for PC joysticks. 
The 15 pin VGA port should properly be called a HDE-15 but most people call it 
HD-15. Apple's 19 pin floppy drive port was only ever used for that purpose and 
has no official letter size designation. The guy who has the Big Mess-o-wires 
website makes a solid state floppy drive replacement and had to reverse 
engineer that connector to have a large batch of new ones made in China. Thus 
at one time he had the entire world's supply of new Apple external floppy drive 
connectors in boxes on his back porch.

On Thursday, November 30, 2017, 10:24:43 PM MST, Gary Satterfield 
 wrote:  
 
 After shuttering my Mac repair and consulting business several years ago, I 
recently decided to dig through all the miscellaneous stuff I collected over 
the years. The Nubus card you see in the attachments has me scratching my head 
about what exactly it is. The only thing I am sure of is that it is some sort 
of video card, judging by the Texas Instruments chip (I Googled it to see what 
it was). The thing that throws me is the video-out connection - it appears to 
be DIN-9, but only in reverse.
Have a look at the pics and see if you can tell me what this weird thing is! 
Please? Thank you kindly!
  

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Re: Looking for new floppy discs

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Mavica floppy disk cameras used 1.44M. Some of the later ones could use Memory 
Stick in a FlashPath adapter. IIRC the last one or two of that line had a 
separate slot for the Memory Stick. Dunno why Sony never made a 2.88M Mavica.

On Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 3:24:39 PM MST, Aoresteen 
 wrote:  
 
 Also, what density are you looking for? 400K, 800K, or 1.4MB?



On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 11:39:03 AM UTC-5, thymeless1 wrote:
Good morning,

I need a source for new floppy discs. I use a Sony Mavica camera which takes 
photos onto floppies which I then can put on my 1999 Apple desktop computer. I 
have had no luck in sourcing new floppies but am sure there is still a need for 
them & am thinking someplace has them. Any leads appreciated. 
  

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Re: G3 Beige

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I wonder if it's possible to access the BIOS in a PC SCSI controller when it's 
installed in a Mac? If so, that would make it possible to do low level 
formatting with a Mac. Sometimes on a Mac a SCSI drive can get things fouled up 
to where it can't be formatted on a Mac. Running a low level format with a 
good, bootable, SCSI controller in a PC will wipe it clean of any soft problems.
That's also step 1 to prepare a non-Apple drive to be used on a Mac without 3rd 
party or hacked Apple utilities.Step 2 is boot with a floppy or USB stick that 
has been made from a 95b, 98, or 98SE emergency boot disk image. Run FDISK, 
select the option for large drives if it's going to be HFS Extended. Create one 
primary partion, Step 3. Reboot then FORMAT using the /Q option for a quick 
format.Step 4. Connect the drive to the Mac and boot with extensions disabled 
so no PC or DOS support loads. You'll get a prompt to erase the drive. YES, you 
want that. In a few seconds the FAT16 drive will be converted to HFS Standard, 
FAT32 will become HFS Extended.
 
On Sunday, November 26, 2017, 5:48:39 PM MST, Jonathan Morton 
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You load the OS from a drive not connected to the SCSI card.  The latter is 
just for attaching the peripheral the OP requires.

 - Jonathan Morton

  

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Re: G3 Beige

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Will an Adaptec SCS controller with a PC BIOS or one without a BIOS work in a 
Mac for peripherals used after booting? Or do you always need one with the Mac 
specific BIOS? Those allow booting from the SCSI controller. 

On Sunday, November 26, 2017, 9:01:27 AM MST, 
 wrote:  
 
 SCSI cards are actually pretty available via eBay and other sources, so don't 
let that discourage you from a B without a SCSI card. Look for Adaptec 2930 
or 2940 cards, depending which external physical plug you need to connect the 
scanner.
  

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Re: Help: iici doesn't boot with 16mb ram Simms ?

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68k Macs can't disable the bootup RAM test, at least the IIci can't. With a 
Turbo 601 I was only able to disable the test when booting to the PPC card.
Since it is possible to set a flag in the PRAM on a IIci to bypass the boot RAM 
test, with a 601 upgrade that enables the hidden function in Apple's Memory 
control panel, why hasn't anyone written a software utility to set that PRAM 
flag without a 601 upgrade installed?

For someone to do that they'd need software capable of reading out the PRAM 
with a Turbo 601 installed, in enabled and disabled states. Read it with PPC 
enabled and RAM test on, then with PPC enabled and RAM test off. Compare both 
VS PRAM state with the PPC installed and disabled. The bits that are different 
between the PPC enabled and test on and test off are what needs to be set 
without a PPC to disable the test. Different bist between PPC enabled and 
disabled are what the Turbo 601 CP toggles. Then for more fun, read the PRAM 
immediately after booting from a PRAM zap. Of course the PRAM reader for that 
state would need to be 24 bit compatible. (See next paragraph.)

An odd thing I noticed with the Turbo 601 is when I had it set to boot to PPC 
and did a PRAM zap, it would boot Mac OS 7.6 in 24 bit mode. The amount of 
available RAM was way low, with most of the 128 meg taken up by "System" - and 
the Memory control panel gained a 24 - 32 bit switch. I never tried running any 
software requiring 24 bit mode, I'd always just flip that switch to 32 bit, 
re-enable the PPC and reboot. The switch on the Memory panel would vanish, only 
to return again with a PRAM zap. I thought many times about investigating that 
further, getting screen shots of 7.6 in 24 bit mode, but ehhh, I just wanted to 
get back to to PowerMac mode ASAP. I never just rebooted to see if 24 bit mode 
would stick or if it would reset itself to 32 bit.

Had to be something weird the Turbo 601 did in PRAM because unlike other CPU 
upgrade cards, once enabled it didn't need a control panel to switch to the 
PPC, it completely bypassed the 68030 from power on. The 601 control panel was 
only needed for turning on a couple of performance boosting options.
Apple's 601 Upgrade control panel could *disable* 3rd party 601 upgrades but 
once turned off, Apple's CP would say "601 upgrade? I don't see any 601 
upgrade." Apparently it would check the PRAM state with a Turbo 601 enabled, 
and could set the state to normal, but to turn it on it'd first check for an 
Apple 601 upgrade (which IIRC they only made for 68040's) and not finding one 
would not enable a 3rd party one.

On Tuesday, April 25, 2017, 12:45:56 AM MDT, Clark Martin  
wrote:Give it plenty of time to boot.  The RAM test for 64 Mb will take quite a 
while.  Try letting it boot for an hour, that should be more than enough time.

There is a way to stop it from running the RAM test at startup.  IIRC you hold 
down the Command key while opening the Memory control panel and an additional 
option appears.  

Clark Martin
A designated driver on the information Super Highway

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Re: Help: iici doesn't boot with 16mb ram Simms ?

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How many chips are on each SIMM? I had a IIci with a 66Mhz Turbo 601 and 128 
meg RAM. IIRC there were 16 chips per SIMM. There's a specific maximum number 
of bits per chip these old Macs can address. Having more memory per SIMM or 
DIMM requires more chips instead of higher capacity chips.For 16 meg SIMMS in a 
IIci I'd expect them to need 16 chips each.
You always have to have RAM in Bank A because that's where the IIci's video RAM 
is taken from. If you are using different capacity SIMMs, but the larger ones 
in Bank B. If you're not planning to go up to 128 meg you may find it easier 
(and better performing) to get eight 8 meg SIMMs, with 8 chips on each.

On Monday, April 24, 2017, 9:39:41 PM MDT, 'mossheart9' via Vintage Macs 
 wrote:Hi again!
I bought 4 sticks of 16mb (4 x 16= 64mb total) 30-pin 80ns non-parity ram from 
18004memory.com

I have working 4 x 4mb=16mb total old ram that boots just fine.
I am running system 7.5 (no updates, just 7.5, I chose 'for my machine only' 
when I installed the system. I have the Apple official floppy set.)
I do NOT have a parity chip on my iici board.
I have a delta powersupply (just replaced and functions great)
I re-capped the motherboard.

There are 8 ram slots in my iici. 
I installed the 4 (4x16mb)ram sticks in bank a and then left bank b empty.
I tried booting and I get the chime and then the screen just doesn't get a 
picture and nothing happens.
I tried adding 4 x 4mb into bank b and 4 x 16mb into bank a and booting and the 
same thing happens.

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Re: Macintosh Quadro 840av

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Tried a PRAM zap? Hold Command, Option, P and R simultaneously then turn the 
Mac on. You should get the startup bong. Keep holding the keys until it bongs a 
second time.

On Sunday, April 9, 2017, 4:11:40 AM MDT, Robert Riggs  
wrote:William
I have gone as far as removing all drives that where installed, floppy, CDROM 
and hard drive. Even with all drives disconnected it still goes to the grey 
desktop I described.  

On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 7:32:32 AM UTC-5, william bowles wrote:
Hi Robert 
To me that says that the Mac has booted but the termination on the scsi hdd is 
not correct and it can not find the folders to load the system. Do you have 
more than one hdd installed and have you checked the termination id on each 
drive to see if there is a conflict because if both or more hdd have the same 
id then what you  currently have is what you get  when trying  to load the Mac .

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Re: Need to know what Mac application created a file with the attached file icon

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Use ResEdit to open the file to see the type and creator codes.

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Re: School SE/30

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Were you with SyQuest? Or was it the company that made the ORB drive?

On Thursday, March 30, 2017, 3:37:11 AM MDT, Brent Nilson  
wrote:Hi Jeff:
I was an executive officer in a new disk drive company that was offering a 
removable hard disk drive that made the apple mac very attractive to the 
graffic design world.  As apple is a closed operating system, we were not able 
to work with them to make sure that our drive would work with all there 
computers.  So, as it turned out, I had to buy one of all there computers to to 
make sure our drives would work with there computers.  As it turned out, all 
there computers were not the same, and we often had to make changes to our 
drives.  So, this Mac SE 30 was used 1, maybe 2 weeks.  We did not have to make 
any changes, so this computer was retired after, and I eventually took it home, 
thinking it was a good one for my kids.  Turns out, we were hooked on the IBM, 
and this never got it out of the box.
Obviously, looks and works like new.
Rambling over.
Let me know if you would like all the details and photos.
Brent  Thinking I would sell it for $800.  About 5 years ago, I 
sold all the other models for $700 to $1000
On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Jeff Hubatka  wrote:

On Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 2:25:47 PM UTC-7, Brent Nilson wrote:
Do you have an interest in an almost new woking SE30 ?


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Re: Printing from an iPhone to a LaserWriter pro 630

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You won't be using the EtherNet port since it doesn't do TCP/IP, just 
EtherTalk. You'll need an EtherNet to Parallel (LPT) print server that does 
TCP/IP. Here's how it can be made to work with Snow Leopard. The info should be 
of some help with other systems. If you can get HP LaserJet software for iOS 
you could try one of the PCL setting on the dial on back of the printer.

https://tidbits.com/article/10626  
Google how to print from iOS to a non-AirPrint printer.
Once you have that setup, you'll need to connect by WiFi from your iPhone to 
your LAN and you'll have to setup a 'path' for the data to get to the printer. 
Easiest would be to find an EtherNet to LPT print server with its own WiFi, 
with support for WPA2. Good luck with that. Parallel port printers and print 
servers were well away on the pile of obsolescence by the time faster WiFi 
versions and the more secure WPA2 came along.
How to overcome that? Connect the EtherNet end of the print server to a WiFi 
router. If you rely on your broadband modem/router to assign IP's by DHCP, you 
can try having it assign the print server an IP address that way. Fortunately, 
manually assigning a printer a fixed IP gets along with DHCP - as long as the 
printer's IP is in the same range as the router is using for DHCP assignments, 
and you put the printer IP's at high numbers so that the router won't ever be 
attempting to assign one of those automatically to a phone, tablet or computer.

For example, I setup my DSL router to be 192.168.0.1 with a subnet mask of 
255.255.255.0 That enables me to have device IPs from 192.168.0.2 through 
192.168.0.254
On devices NOT relying on DHCP I set them to use the same subnet mask and the 
default gateway is 192.168.0.1. One reason for setting printers to fixed IPs is 
operating systems tend to 'forget' where they are if the printers or the DHCP 
server (the internet router) gets power cycled and IP addresses get changed.
Another thing to check is to login to the router and see if it has any IP 
address range limits set. Sometimes they have a default of only assigning IP 
addresses at x.x.x.100 or lower, or higher. Usually you can change that. 
Another trick some routers are capable of is assigning IP addresses by MAC 
address. This can be very useful. Set your printers and computers etc to use 
DHCP then use the router's features to give each MAC address a single IP to use 
and whenever a device connects, it gets the same IP.
You can use this to lock your wired and wireless network down so that only 
authorized devices are able to connect, making it quite secure even without a 
password on the WiFi - because even though it's open, only specific devices 
you've explicitly allowed are able to connect. Anything not on the list gets 
rejected.
MAC addresses can be spoofed, but to do that someone would pretty much have to 
get into your house or office and copy the MAC codes off the labels on your 
stuff, which for most desktop computers and many laptops would require taking 
them apart to find the label on the network card, WiFi card or motherboard.

  From: Robert Hesson 
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:28 PM
 Subject: Printing from an iPhone to a LaserWriter pro 630
   
Never needed to... never cared to until today. I have the printer pro app 
installed on my iOS devices and I would like to print to my LaserWriter Pro 630.

Anyone achieve this? It's currently connected to my home network via Ethernet 
and I print to it regularly from my Quadra 650, centris 610, G4 tower, 
PowerBook g4, my quadra 800 and my Lenovo thinkpad. 

Any help would be appreciated.

   

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Re: "Sticky" 80Mb Quantum Drives

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Some drives have a rubber or soft plastic bump stop for the head actuator. If 
stored for a long period of time with the heads parked, the part of the 
actuator that touches the stop can get stuck to it - or the material the stop 
is made of can deteriorate and get sticky.
Freezing the drive may harden the stop and if it causes enough differential 
shrinkage between the stop and what's stuck to it, it can pop loose.
Some drives use a small magnet to hold the actuator parked, and if left there 
for a long time the steel piece on the actuator can become overly magnetized to 
where the attraction is too strong for the actuator to overcome to be able to 
move.
This also happens a lot in CD and DVD drives left unused without a disc 
inserted for a very long time. They use a magnet on one side and a piece of 
steel on the other side of the disc clamp. Usually the magnet is on the spindle 
motor. Without a disc in, the clamp parts fit closer together and can develop 
an attraction too strong for the eject mechanism to separate unless there's a 
disc inserted to hold the clamp farther apart.
For that problem in a hard drive, a small piece of aluminum foil flue tape 
stuck onto the non-moving side of the stop could keep it far enough apart to 
weaken the magnetic attraction. For optical drives I've super glued layers of 
thin cardboard onto the clamp hub so that when a disc is in the center of clamp 
and hub have a very tiny gap. Without a disc the clamp is kept far enough from 
the magnet that it can break the attraction. Even then, some clamps get too 
strongly magnetized. (A tape eraser might work to cure this. Take the cover off 
the drive and zap the clamp from both sides. I don't have a tape eraser.)

Hard drives and optical drives with the ability to develop this problem 
happened because the people who designed them either never envisioned them 
being left unused for years, or if they did consider this problem didn't figure 
it would/could ever happen. Who would never use a hard drive for a decade or 
never put a disk in a drive for years? Making the actuators and eject 
mechanisms strong enough to overcome the force of over-magnetized park and disc 
clamps would cost more - why bother doing that for a situation that would 
'never happen'?
Same thing with hard drives that don't hold the heads in park with a magnet. If 
they considered the performance of the bump stop material when something is 
pressed against it for years, they likely figured getting sticky was a 
non-issue because nobody would ever leave a drive parked and unused for a long 
time.

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Re: Macintosh Classic Floppy Disks

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Make an image of the Macintosh Basics disk and upload it to the garden site.



  From: Pablo Calderón Piedra 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 10:04 AM
 Subject: Re: Macintosh Classic Floppy Disks
   
Thanks to all for the help! Finally I have the same copy of System 6.0.7 that 
came with my Macintosh Classic. A good man from Macintoshgarden.org sent me the 
link to the Apple Developer CDs 1992 that contains the System 6.0.7 images. And 
thanks to Dylan McDermond I have the Macintosh Basics disk again.
Pablo.
   

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Re: Copying Floppies to MacBook...

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If they're High Density with the write protect tab and a second hole opposite 
it, you can use the USB floppy drive. To be able to *write* to a floppy you 
need OS X 10.5 or earlier. Apple decided that with 10.6 you would no longer be 
allowed to do that.
If the disks only have the write protect hole, they're Mac's own special format 
from heck, unreadable by anything except old Beige Macs - or certain old and 
practically unobtainable hardware like a Central Point Option Board or a 
Catweasel for PCs and Amigas.
Easiest way to test is plug the USB floppy into your MacBook and pop in a high 
density Mac formatted floppy. If it's a good disk and mounts on the Desktop, 
congrats, you can read them and should be able to make DMGs of them. I dunno if 
not writing to floppies in 10.6 and up is hard blocked at the system level or 
if it's only the higher level layer of OS X that doesn't do it - and 3rd party 
software can.
This ain't new. Apple did this before when they decided to exterminate the 400K 
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  From: "julian.temple...@gmail.com" 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 3:53 PM
 Subject: Copying Floppies to MacBook...
   
The SE/30s I've rescued have come with a lot of floppies, and I'd like to back 
the ones that are readable to my MacBook as insurance. How do people recommend 
doing this?
I'm assuming that I can plug a USB floppy drive into the MacBook, but are there 
any special considerations on the software side?

   

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Adding internal CD-ROM to 3-slot Mac II series.

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Circa turn of the century I did a rough 3D model for an insert to fit between 
the case and lid of a IIci to hold a CD-ROM above the hard drive. My idea was 
to make it from sheet metal but I never found that particular "round tuit".
With 3D printers it would be much simpler to make and the design could be made 
to fit right in with the "Snow White" design theme. A bay for a second hard 
drive could also be included, though the SCSI cabling would be complicated and 
the PSU might not be up to the demand.
The good thing is one design should fit the IIcx, IIci and Quadra 700.
With the popularity of "second story" addons for the IBM PCjr in the late 90's 
I was surprised that some company didn't make a thing like this for the much 
more common compact Mac II series. Unlike the PCjr addons a Mac version would 
only need to be a simple plastic molding, no electronics.
If I had a IIci I'd do a detailed 3D model, broken down into pieces that can be 
printed flat then glued together. Printers big enough to print such a large 
item as one piece are rather expensive.
Sooo, just throwing this out there now if anyone wants to tackle such a 
project. The dimensions for the grooves, ridges and other features of the Snow 
White elements are out there on the web somewhere.

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Re: LC 520 - Yet more issues....

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You may be able to recover those drives for use. If you have a PC, get a cheap 
Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller with a boot ROM or BIOS. You'll want one with 
a 50 pin narrow SCSI connector.
Then you can try the controller's built in low level format on the drives to 
see if it can revive them. All the data will be lost, but this is a function 
that cannot be done on a Macintosh. It directly accesses the system in the 
drives that the factory used to format them. One like this is perfect for the 
job. http://www.ebay.com/itm/381778922146

Can't do this with IDE, ATAPI or SATA drives - except for one old 80286 
motherboard I kept for a long time because its BIOS setup had an IDE low level 
format utility which worked on drives up to around 8 gigabytes, despite the 
BIOS being unable to properly use any drives over half a gig. I suspect the 
reason it quit working was because drive manufacturers "fixed" whatever method 
that BIOS was using to access the drives' built in low level formatting system. 
Saved quite a bit of  with that old board. :)

 
  From: John-Robert La Porta 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 9:15 AM
 Subject: Re: LC 520 - Yet more issues
   
Everyone had the right suspicions: TWO of my HDs had failed, that's where I was 
thrown off. Thankfully, one of my PowerMac 6100s was nice enough to give up its 
HD, and that works fine. Many thanks for all of the help. Also, that SCSI to 
Flash thing is intriguing...I may have to look into that someday.
   
 

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Re: LC 520 - Need system disk

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Look here http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/operating-systems
And here http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/apple-system-enablers 
  From: John-Robert La Porta 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 3:47 AM
 Subject: LC 520 - Need system disk
   
Hi everyone,
I am in need of, at least, a floppy image of a system that will start up an LC 
520. I had to swap out hard drives, as it's original died. I just re-capped it 
after years in storage, and I have no System 7 software disk that has Enabler 
403 in it to start it up. For some reason, I cannot find any of my pre-OS 8 
install CDs either to start it with. Is anyone able to help out? A full 7.1 
install with the enabler would be the best if possible.

   
 

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Rescue an Apple Network Server 700

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It's in Ontario, Oregon http://boise.craigslist.org/sop/5915249204.html
Not mine. I've no space for it and no idea what I'd do with it if I had space 
for it.
"Working Apple Network Server 700 with partial second server plus parts such as 
power supplies and processor board upgrade. Vintage computer from the late 
1990s for collectors/enthusiasts. Parts no longer made and support by Apple has 
long since been discontinued. 

Looking to give these old girls a good home rather than sending to the 
recycling center."

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Re: iMac DV

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Step by step how to remove the drives. There's no danger of coming into contact 
with high voltage. http://www.sterpin.net/uk/imacslotinukp.htm



 
  From: Barry Cross 
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:17 AM
 Subject: Re: iMac DV
   
Folks
Many thanks for all of the current replies.To answer some of the points raised.
It has a DVD Drive instead of CD ROM Drive. Apple hasn’t necessarily followed 
perceived logic in its models, its taken them an age to get around to a 
sensible approach. Around my model they gave a hobsons choice of burning CD’s 
but only reading DVD’s.The problem is when I insert any disc in the drive, its 
icon does not appear on the desktop, so there is nothing there to select and 
eject.Looking at the system through the Apple System Profile, the DVD Drive is 
shown, but with the message that there is quote, ‘No media inserted’I had hoped 
that the disc would eject automatically when the computer either booted up or 
shut down, but to no avail.I have finally managed to remove the disc from the 
drive by sliding a card into the drive under the disc, and pulling it out. This 
grips the underneath of the disc and pulls its leading edge out of the drive, 
enabling me to grip the disc with my fingers and pull it out.
I don’t really fancy messing about with the Mac to open it up, its not really 
designed for anyone other than Apple engineers to open it without damaging any 
of it. So the thought of changing drives let alone repairing the drive itself 
fills me with dread, such that I don’t really fancy trying it. 

   
 

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Re: iMac DV

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Insert a disc with the label oriented in a recognizable way. Wait a bit after 
it's in, then eject. Does the disc come out in exactly the same position? If so 
then the spindle motor is not working. The drive needs replaced. If you feel 
adventurous, the motor can be swapped from another drive that has a different 
problem.

Clean the lens. That will involve removing the drive from the iMac, taking its 
cover off then gently cleaning the lens with a cotton swab dipped in a little 
unscented rubbing alcohol.
If that doesn't work then the easiest course is to replace the drive.
The whole laser sled assembly may possibly be swapped from another drive, if 
the wires to it are not soldered at both ends. I replaced the one in an XBox 
360 I was given. Cost under $8 for a brand new one off eBay. Might or might not 
be able to find a new one for the iMac drive.
Is your iMac DV one of the CRT models? I had one which was built with a plain 
CD-ROM drive. The only thing that made it a "DV" model was the Firewire port. I 
would've thought that a computer marketed as being intended for "Digital Video" 
use in the late 1990's would come with a DVD burner, at the very least a 
DVD-ROM/CD-RW combo. I tried to find an internal DVD burner for it but everyone 
wanted about 5x what the computer was worth.

 
  From: Barry Cross 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:51 AM
 Subject: iMac DV
   
FolksI have an Apple iMac DV that will not mount discs on its Desktop. With a 
DVD in the Drive, Apple System Profiler indicates that there is ‘No mounted 
media inserted’
Does anyone have any clues of how I can rectify this please?
   
 

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Re: May 1999 Software Recovery discs?

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Could you image them, then upload to Macintosh Garden after they sell?

 
  From: Jacob Schwartzenhauer 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 3:16 PM
 Subject: Re: May 1999 Software Recovery discs?
   
Hey Gregg, I happen to have the exact discs you are looking for. Not sure if 
you're still needing them, but I have them listed for sale on eBay.

On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 1:06:58 AM UTC-8, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
Two of my discs for the May 1999 Software Recovery set have developed 
unrecoverable errors just sitting around. :(

p/n: 691-0391-E Apple Application Software
p/n: 691-2363-A Apple System Software For Power Macintosh G3 and iMac 
computers

I've tried various disc imaging tools but all failed.

Any source to download? Macintosh Garden has a set from May 2000 but 
there are possibly some things on the May 1999 discs that aren't on the 
newer release.

The Legacy disc included in both sets was from 1998.

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Re: Palm Desktop on Centris w/System 7.6.1

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That version only supports PPC Macintosh. Palm was very quick to drop 68K 
support. Some searching found that only the earliest Palm Desktop versions were 
for 68K, but I was unable to find any of them. Macintosh Garden doesn't have 
it, nor does Macintosh Repository.

You might get it to work with Claris Organizer, which 3Com bought way back when 
and made over into the original Palm Desktop.Here's a contact manager that 
supports Palm http://brewstersoftware.com/features.htm

A few things here ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/mac/mirrors/info-mac/pilot/ You'll 
also need a serial cradle for the Centris or a serial to Infrared adapter for 
synching. IIRC the Visor supports both serial and USB, unlike earlier models 
from Palm that use a USB to serial adapter in their USB cradles and cables.



 
  From: Louis Ciotti 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 7:10 PM
 Subject: Palm Desktop on Centris w/System 7.6.1
   
Hello all,

I am attempting to get my old Handspring Visor connected to My Centris 660av.  
I am running 7.6.1, and when I attempt to install the Palm software, the palm 
desktop is greyed out.  From the manual, It should work with OS 7.5.3 or 
greater.  Any thoughts?  

I am able to install it on my G4 running OS9 from the same media.

Thanks!
   
 

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Still looking for May 1999 Application Recovery CD

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I have the CD from 2000 from Macintosh Garden. I'm looking for the May 1999 
edition to see if there's anything on it that Apple removed from the 2000 
edition.

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Re: Software question

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Easier just to do a fresh install. IIRC the 8.1 install (at least the universal 
CD-ROM) actually installs 8.0 followed immediately by the 8.1 update.
8.6 CD's do that too, so do some of the 9.x discs. The part I don't like about 
how those work is you can go through the options for a custom install but it's 
pointless because with the updater there are no options, they all install 
*everything* so then you have to go into the System folder to delete 
extensions, control panels, printer drivers etc. for hardware the computer 
doesn't have.
The only choice you get that has any effect (through 8.1) is whether you want 
to install for 68K or PPC only or both. The updaters do no checking to see what 
components are already installed nor do they check the hardware to see what is 
*not* needed. That is how "It Just Works" came about, install all of the OS and 
of course it will work on any Mac supporting that OS version. :P Nevermind it 
uses up a bunch of space and slows down booting while useless extensions and 
control panels try to load. At least the ones provided by Apple were made to 
fail to load silently and invisibly, without causing a crash while booting.

Could be someone tried to make your Mac boot as fast as possible and went a bit 
overboard on tossing out the "extra" items.



 
  From: V. Sigma <vincentbesse...@gmail.com>
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:28 PM
 Subject: Re: Software question
   
I don't believe so, I essentially have nothing except Finder and AppleTalk.
On Aug 30, 2016 11:26 PM, "'Gregg Eshelman' via Vintage Macs" 
<vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:

You need an 8.1 install CD-ROM and Tome Viewer to open the install tomes and 
extract the extensions and control panels that are missing. If 8.1 is what your 
Mac originally shipped with, you might find an image file of the CD ROM at 
macintoshgarden.org or macintoshrepository.org

Before you do that, do you have Extensions Manager? Could be someone disabled a 
bunch of stuff with it.


   
 

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Re: Software question

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You need an 8.1 install CD-ROM and Tome Viewer to open the install tomes and 
extract the extensions and control panels that are missing. If 8.1 is what your 
Mac originally shipped with, you might find an image file of the CD ROM at 
macintoshgarden.org or macintoshrepository.org

Before you do that, do you have Extensions Manager? Could be someone disabled a 
bunch of stuff with it.

 
  From: V. Sigma 
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 Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:54 PM
 Subject: Software question
   
Hi! I know I post a lot, but I am new to the whole Mac thing...anyway, this 
time is a question of software. As is, my 8.1-running Mac has an extremely 
limited control panel and cannot even set the date and time. Going into Help to 
try and figure out how resulted in a help message telling me I do not have the 
necessary software for the Date and Time Console installed. My question 
is...what software do I need, so I can hunt it down and install it?-- 
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Re: Media 100 system, free to good home.

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You're 2nd in line, if the person asking if it'd work for LaserDiscs takes a 
pass. Shipping won't be too cheap, there's 2 boxes of printed manuals and the 
breakout cable is bulky and heavy, plus it has a weighed base for that.

At one time I had two Radius 81/110 computers with M100 boards and a third 
spare set of M100 boards. One computer went to Italy to be used for video work. 
the other went somewhere in the USA to a collector along with a load of SCSI 
hard drives and other old Mac equipment.
My old website on the system. I collected some useful into there and even 
mapped out the pinouts for the breakout box for people who either don't have 
one or who want to make a more compact or simpler cable with only the 
connectors they need. 
https://web.archive.org/web/2012082615/http://members.aceweb.com/gregg1/media100/NuBusM100.html

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Re: Media 100 system, free to good home.

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It should work for LaserDisc, especially if the player has an S-Video output. 
One thing you pretty much have to do when capturing manually is do it in 
overlapping pieces. There's a hard coded limit of 2 gigabytes when capturing, 
which gets hit pretty quick at best quality. It's using a form of MJPEG where 
every frame is a 150K JPEG, no B frames that only have info that has changed 
from the previous frame.
Then you bring all the clips into the editor, alternating between tracks A and 
B, then move them to align. Trim the tracks at the overlap and there's your 
whole video.

Fortunately, when doing a digital export, uncompressed with the Media 100 
codec, it will go as large of a file as the destination drive's file system can 
handle. So you want to be running at least Mac OS 8.1 and have the output 
volume as HFS+. I was running 9.2.2 and outputting to a 17 gig external SCSI 
drive.
Then what you do with that very large output file is move it to a more modern 
computer to convert to something like an MP4 with H.264 or even better the new 
H.265 codec.
To do that requires the Media 100 decoder, it's like a play only version of a 
codec. I have it for Windows, may have it for Mac. Once installed it enables 
video editing software to read Media 100 video for conversion to other formats.
For an alternate solution, you could playback the edited video with Media 100 
directly to a standalone DVD recorder to get it into MPEG2, which can then be 
'ripped' from the DVD-R. It's analog output, doesn't matter what recording 
device is on the other end of the cable.
What may cause problems is if the LaserDisc has Macrovision copy protection. I 
didn't try capturing any tapes with that. Full frame TBCs' get rid of that. The 
better copy protection removers are actually full frame TBCs. Cheap ones that 
only correct the Vertical Blanking Interval lines that copy protection is in 
may introduce audio lag and/or have cheap internal circuitry that reduces video 
quality.
Another thing that will do the same job as a TBC is a video converter or scaler 
that allows for "converting" the input to the same type for output. One of 
those with S-Video in and component (three connectors, marked B-Y, R-Y, Y - not 
five for RGBHV) out would work very nicely with the Media 100. Hmm, yeah, even 
a plain TBC wouldn't need S-video out, just in, as long as it has the B-Y, R-Y, 
Y output.
Get setup with this, could find yourself in a bit of a business doing old tapes 
for people. :)

 
  From: Derek Morton 
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 Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:09 AM
 Subject: Re: Media 100 system, free to good home.
   
Gregg,

How would this work for digitizing Laser Discs?  I have a handful of discs 
which have never been released on DVD or Blu-Ray and it would be nice to get 
the content in the digital domain.  I have no idea about the whole time base 
correction aspect…  Is it required?

There are likely better modern solutions, but I am not sufficiently motivated 
(too lazy) to look.

   
 

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Media 100 system, free to good home.

['Gregg Eshelman' via Vintage Macs]

Got a Quadra 840AV or a 110Mhz NuBus PowerMac or clone? I have a Media 100 
system I've no use for.
Both NuBus boards, the interconnect cables, ADB dongles, breakout box, software 
and manuals. Even has a Media 100 sticker to put on the inside of your window 
or glass door to tell your clients you're using some hot new technology to 
digitize their VHS tapes. ;)
It will work in many different NuBus Macs but the faster Quadras or NuBus 
PowerMac models are preferred.
One gotcha though, due to never fully fixed hardware issues with the NuBus 
PowerMacs (and all the clones) you cannot use a NuBus SCSI card with the Media 
100 hardware. However you *can* use a G3 upgrade, except for having to turn it 
off and run on the 601 for capturing video. The G3 will speed up rendering, 
effects and outputting to digital video files.
In a Quadra it will work with any of the NuBus SCSI cards from ATTO, FWB and 
others. In a PowerMac the only way to get up enough speed on storage to hit the 
minimum 4 megabytes per second sustained write for 150K per frame (best 
quality) is to use software like FWB Hard Disk Toolkit to RAID 0 stripe across 
multiple drives on the internal and external SCSI. I tried a single 17 gig 
drive that had the specifications, and the internal bus is faster, with a 
theoretical speed above the minimum - but something always came along after a 
bit to steal bandwidth and drop it below 4 megabyte/sec and *pow* instant 
stoppage.
It also really needs a professional VTR (VHS, BETA, Betacam etc) with a time 
base corrector and RS-422 serial for remote control. The system *can* be used 
with a manually operated VCR, even without a TBC - but it will stop capturing 
at the slightest problem with synch. There's no frame buffer nor any built in 
hardware correction in this first generation of Media 100. A TBC, built into 
the VCR or as an in between unit, will be a huge help for manual operation. It 
has to be a full frame TBC, the line type doesn't fix all types of sync 
problems.

With the right stuff to 'wrap around' the M100 you can get exceptionally good 
recordings from VHS and Beta tapes, at 640x480 for NTSC (slightly higher 
resolution for PAL). This equipment was used back in the day for editing and 
effects for television shows.
It has inputs for Composite, S-Video and Component, and balanced (XLR) and 
unbalanced stereo audio inputs and outputs. It has the Component video 
daughterboard. Those tricky folks at Media 100 made *everything* optional on 
this. Everything except the component video function was actually built into 
the hardware and various dongles plugged into the ADB port between Mac and 
keyboard unlocked the functions. There was a basic dongle that limited the 
system to draft mode, only able to capture and output at lowest quality and 
pretty much limited the software to basic cutting and generating edit decision 
lists.
The EDLs would then go to the people higher up the editing chain, entrusted 
with systems with the Full Deal dongle so they could do the fancy stuff. If I 
remember right, I'm sure there's a Full Deal dongle with this. There's also one 
from a newer M100 that when plugged in pops up "Power Input" on the splash 
screen that lists the enabled functions. "Power Input" is not listed in the 
manuals for this version.
Or it's just some neat stuff for the collector of old Macintosh gear that wants 
something different.

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Re: Getting Software on to a Vintage Mac

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Looks like a typo in the specifications. Says a max of 1 gig cards but supports 
SDHC and SDXC. Standard cards go up to 2 gig. There are hard to find 
non-standard 4 gig cards that are not SDHC, they have the same number of blocks 
as the 2 gig but each is 2x the capacity.
SDHC goes up to 32 gig and SDXC is over 32 gig to 2 terabytes.
Nothing about transfer speed. Would be interesting to see if two of these can 
be used in a striped RAID-0, one on each of the two SCSI buses in a NuBus 
PowerMac for video capture with Media 100.

 
  From: Daz Botron 
 To: Vintage Macs  
Cc: dou...@me.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 3:15 PM
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Hmmm...this could only be used on my SE/30 according to the compatibility list. 
It is a bit cheaper though. Have you used it with an old mac?

On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 4:25:28 PM UTC-4, Doug Kiekow wrote:
There’s also this https://www.itead.cc/ scsi2sd.html

   
 

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Re: Getting ready to sell machines/peripherals/cables.

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Amazing how desirable what is possibly the worst 68K Mac ever made is. ;)

 
  From: Robert Hesson 
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 Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:25 AM
 Subject: Re: Getting ready to sell machines/peripherals/cables.
   
I'm looking for a 17" or 20" multiple scan display. A 16" one would be fine too.

I've also had my heart set on a Mac TV since 1993...

   
 

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Re: Getting Software on to a Vintage Mac

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NeroMAX for System 7.5 through Mac OS 9.x.x
http://www.macintoshrepository.org/2357-neromax-1-5-8


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Re: Getting Software on to a Vintage Mac

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The mini DIN 4 port is ADB for mice, keyboards and a small number of other 
peripherals, mostly joysticks. LaCie made a radio that for some reason required 
an ADB connection.
You can network (slowly) Macs together with the modem or printer ports. You 
need either Apple's own adapters that have two mini DIN 3 connectors and the 
matching 3 wire cables or you can use PhoneNet adapters and ordinary phone 
cables. You'll also need a pair of terminator plugs for the ends of the 
PhoneNet chain.
One neat thing about PhonNet (and a big selling point) was your house is 
already wired for it. It uses the pair of wires not used when you have just a 
single landline. Plug in a PhoneNet adapter with one port having a terminator 
plug then connect to a phone wall jack with a standard phone cord. Connect 
every old Mac you have that way and no need to string cables everywhere.
If you have two landlines, you can't use the existing phone wiring for 
PhoneNet. :-(
There were also a couple of accelerated (and of course mutually incompatible) 
versions of the system, and the Farallon EtherWave which connected the Mac 
serial port to Ethernet. Extra goodness was achieved by being able to daisy 
chain like LocalTalk and PhoneNet (and coaxial cable networks) OR work in a 
star topology with an Ethernet hub.
All networking methods using the serial ports top out at less than 1 megabit 
per second. No streaming Internet video that way!

http://lowendmac.com/2014/farallon-etherwave-faq/

 
  From: Daz Botron 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 7:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Getting Software on to a Vintage Mac
   
Oh, one more thing. What is the designation of the cable used to connect two 
macs together? It looks like an s-video cable but I don't think it's actually 
the same.

   
 

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Re: Getting Software on to a Vintage Mac

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Nope. The only non-beige Macintosh you can connect an old Mac floppy drive to 
is the first version of the Bondi Blue CRT iMac. Apple was going to have a 
floppy drive in them but as it got close to production ready, it was eliminated.
I assume that required major revisions to the housing as there's no evidence of 
floppy removal alterations. All that remains of the floppy plan is an empty 
spot for the header connector. Fortunately that's all you need, a connector and 
the skill to solder it to the mainboard. And of course a 1.44M SuperDrive and 
ribbon cable.
That model of iMac can also have an ADB port added but unlike the floppy port, 
Apple left off a few other components instead of simply not installing the 
connector.



 
  From: Daz Botron 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:34 PM
 Subject: Re: Getting Software on to a Vintage Mac
   
The only other old mac I have is a blue & white G3 which only has an optical 
drive I believe. Perhaps there's a way to hook up an old drive to that?

   
 

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Re: Getting Software on to a Vintage Mac

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A USB floppy drive can only read and write disks that use a format with the 
same number of sectors on all tracks. The Macintosh 400K (single sided) and 
800K (double sided) formats use a varying number of sectors per track and also 
vary the rotation speed.
If you have an SE FDHD (Floppy Drive High Density) it can read 1.44M disks. The 
original 128K and 512K and the Plus cannot be upgraded to use a HD floppy 
drive. Applied Engineering made an external 1.44M drive for them but it 
requires an INIT to be loaded from the boot disk in a 400K or 800K drive or a 
SCSI hard drive.



 
  From: Daz Botron 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Getting Software on to a Vintage Mac
   
Given then USB floppy drive seems like the most cost effective method for now I 
think I;ll try that. Will my mini have any trouble reading disks formatted for 
an older mac like the SE/30?

On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 4:11:30 AM UTC-4, Jonathan Morton wrote:

> On 21 Aug, 2016, at 06:17, Daz Botron  wrote:
> 
> Hi. I just got a SE/30 and am wondering if there's an easy way to get old 
> software from a modern computer (I'm on a mini) to a vintage mac like there 
> is for the Apple II with ADT Pro?

It’s a common question.

By far the easiest solution for regular use is Ethernet.  Obtaining the correct 
expansion card for your Mac is the most significant hurdle.  Once you have the 
Mac talking standard protocols (TCP/IP and FTP), and able to decompress 
standard archives (StuffIt Expander), you’re golden.

You could also obtain a USB floppy drive for your modern Mac.  As long as the 
older one supports HD FDD formats (1.4MB rather than 800K), it’ll work fine for 
archives that will fit on one disk.  This is often the best way to get 
networking software onto an old Mac that doesn’t already have it.

There are other solutions of increasing complexity, but I wouldn’t worry about 
those unless the above two won’t work for you.

 - Jonathan Morton


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Re: New to 68k Macs, have some important questions

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Coolers for 80486 CPUs can be made to work on a 68040. Of course the problem is 
finding one after all these years.

 
  From: coverturtle 
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 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 8:35 AM
 Subject: Re: New to 68k Macs, have some important questions
   
 If you choose to do this, make sure you have a good heat sink with a fan for 
68040.  They can get hot.  In the lab we ran some which were rated at 50MHz and 
they were hot enough to burn.
 
 On 08/14/2016 10:51 PM, V. Sigma wrote:
  
 Hi, I just recently purchased my first Mac, a Performa 630CD (AKA Quadra 630) 
for the princely sum of 53 dollars. I've done a fair bit of research into 
vintage Macs before I bought one but there's still some questions I haven't 
found answers to. 
  1. I haven't opened my Performa up yet, but chances are it still has the 
original 68LC040 and I didn't get lucky by buying one with a proper 040 
upgrade. I've found decently priced 040 chips on eBay but they're all 25MHz 
chips, which would be slower than the 33MHz LC that's (probably) already in 
there. Would a 25MHz 040 installed in a motherboard with a 33MHz clock crystal 
run at 33MHz or is 25MHz the maximum speed it's capable of? 
  2. I've heard the SCSI controller in the 630 is absolutely abominable due to 
being slow and outdated. Can it be replaced with a more modern controller from 
another Macintosh? 
  I appreciate hearing from some people with more Mac experience than I have.


   

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Re: Image Writer II - best place to buy ribbons?

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I did some searching and the only hit Google would let me find was an old 
usenet post from 1995 from someone at Microspot pitching their Macpallette II 
driver.
Yahoo wouldn't even find that. Both insisted I'm an idiot and was really 
searching for Mac pallette (forget the II) and MAC Cosmetics.
Macintosh Garden doesn't have it, which is where I looked first. Color (haha) 
me surprised that the site doesn't have it. I thought they had pretty much 
everything in pre-OSX Mac software.

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Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter

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If you can find it, HP had a legacy printer software download for old Macintosh 
for the LaserJet 4, 5 and 6 series printers, but they must have PostScript SIMM 
or DIMM installed. IIRC the L models are not supported by it, probably no 
PostScript option for them. Those printers will need an interface option board 
with Ethernet and/or a LocalTalk/Mac serial port.
LaserJet 4 series uses the MIO type expansion. Laserjet 5, 5M, 5N and 5S series 
also use MIO. Do not be fooled by Token Ring MIO cards, they are useless 
(unless for some reason you are stuck maintaining an ancient Token Ring system) 
unless you get one with a Mac port because you need to connect to a Mac. The 
'holy grail' of MIO cards are the ones with Mac, 10 Base-T and 10 Base-2 ports. 

Looks like LaserJet 6 only came in L and P models, neither of which had 
expansion slots. printerworks.com is where you can find all the parts and 
upgrades, including some parts that can be used to repair LaserWriters due to 
their common "engines" shared with various HP, Canon and others.

There was a Macintosh kit for the LaserJet II but from what I read on it some 
years ago it was slow and didn't work too well. HP had absolutely nothing for 
Mac for the LaserJet III series. There were 3rd party solutions such as 
PostScript cartridges and interface adapters.
Another thing to look for, which will get you compatibility with many more (but 
old) printers is PowerPrint. It's a Mac serial port to parallel port adapter 
cable and a software driver and RIP (Raster Image Processor) that takes print 
output and converts it to monochrome bitmaps to send to the printer. Caveat, it 
can be VERY SLOW, minutes per page on most 68k Macs, even on a IIci with 128 
meg RAM and a 66Mhx PPC 601 upgrade. I connected up a LaserJet IIID to just 
such a "Power IIci" and after a couple pages printed using Power Print I gave 
up on using that for printing from it.

There were several revisions to both the cable and software, so you need to 
match them. When the company was still in business they'd give you free 
upgrades to the latest software version supported by whichever cable revision 
you had.
They also had a network version of PowerPrint. That included a standalone print 
server to connect the printer to. From what I collected about it, the software 
looked for a specific name of the print server. I wondered if any server would 
work if it's name was changed to match the one provided by PowerPrint. I still 
have a standalone HP JetDirect for parallel printers.
Or you could install Print to PDF then copy the PDF's to a newer computer to 
print out. http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/pdf.html





 
  From: bigclaim via Vintage Macs 
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 10:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
   
Just bare with me and let's see how to get them to CA - I need everyone I can 
find, working or not

I need everyone of them - I don't know ANYONE that uses them - I work in system 
7 and 8 on my old Macs
and they can only print to the laserwriters - it's been hell keeping them going 
- I have 7 and they are all broken
in one way or another

Work with me and help me (I am just an assistant teacher and don't make a lot) 
and give me a program to pay you for them - I have references. 

My #7 printer went bad to day - - side makes 2 blinking red lights and won't 
work - most of the motherboards have gone bad.

OK - so in what city do you live?

Than ks

Michael Smith
 
 
 
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From: 'Glen' via Vintage Macs 
To: vintage-macs 
Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter




On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs
 wrote:
> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
>
> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>
> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist  - nothing.

Like others, I have a couple of old LaserWriters, a IIntx and IInt.  The ntx 
needs the a feed roller replacement and the nt needs the DC controller IIRC. 
Too heavy and too and hard to ship. Love to give them away if you (or anyone 
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Re: Multi-fork Support or How to upgrade your OS without getting (de)Forked

['Gregg Eshelman' via Vintage Macs]

When you put a Macintosh file onto another system (or non-Mac writeable media) 
where it's resource fork is important, don't monkey around with the file using 
the other system. In other words, don't open it, edit it then save it back to 
where it was placed from the Macintosh. Don't use the non-Mac to copy it to 
another Mac. The resource fork and other data won't go with it. Access the 
non-Mac system from the other Mac and 'pull' the file.
IMHO, there must have been a meeting at Apple when they invented Apple Double 
and someone asked "How can we make the Macintosh file storage system as 
incompatible as possible with all other computers?". Everyone else uses files 
that are each in one piece. Some filesystems may store various attributes in 
odd ways and places, but far as I know, in none of them does losing those 
attributes make the file unusable.

Back in 1995, Apple said they were going to make an Appleshare IP client for 
Windows 95 - and that announcement was all there was to that. Even unto the 
early versions of OS X, Apple did nothing to make Mac interoperate directly 
over networks with non-Mac computers. There was Thursby DAVE, which had pieces 
to install on both Mac and Windows and (IIRC) made it possible for the Windows 
side to move and copy Mac files without orphaning them from their resource 
forks.

It would be nice if simply placing the data and resource fork files into the 
same folder would make it so a Macintosh could copy them back and fix them. The 
one and only type of Mac file I know of where doing that does any good is a 
Quicktime Movie. Do that and Quicktime for Windows will play the video. But 
since Apple has killed that, along with Safari for Windows... VLC will play 
Quicktime but I dunno if it can play un-flattened ones.
If only Apple had made it so that writing any file to any non-Mac media or 
network system automatically flattened the file, there wouldn't be all these 
issues. There was an Apple Single format which did combine resource and data 
forks into single files, but far as I know it was never actually used in System 
or Mac OS.

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  From: Brendan Shanks 
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Multi-fork Support or How to upgrade your OS without getting 
(de)Forked
   
10.11 certainly does support files with resource forks, at the very least the 
support has to stay around for Carbon apps which can use old-style resources. 
And of course, many Mac users still have personal files with resource forks. 

Things can get complicated when moving multi-fork files onto non-Apple file 
systems (like SMB or FAT32), this usually works but I believe will add a 
separate ._ file.
Copying to/from HFS+ or AFP volumes, the resource fork should travel fine 
though.

   
 

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Re: Multi-fork Support or How to upgrade your OS without getting (de)Forked

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The best way to ensure the resource forks are preserved is to use a Mac that 
supports the Apple Double system (which is what they called the dual forks) and 
pack those files into Stuffit archive files. If a Stuffit archive loses its 
resource fork, later versions of Stuffit can still extract them. The Stuffit 
files may be moved through any other system without problems.

Do NOT use Self-Extracting Archive! .SEA files are beyond recovery if they lose 
their resource forks. That's why .SEA files were always encoded with MacBinary 
.BIN or BinHex .HQX so they could be moved around as text files.

BinHex actually started on CompuServe as a way to send binary files because not 
all of CompuServe's servers and routers were 8 bit 'clean'. Some of the main 
Internet systems also were that way. Since the bulk of data that was sent 
across the Internet in its early years was English text, the amount of data 
sent could be reduced by 1/8 simply by assuming the (IIRC) least significant 
bit was always zero, as it is for all the ASCII characters used in English.
Try to send a binary file through that, where some bytes have LSB that's 1, and 
you get garbage on the other end. BinHex encodes each byte to one or more 7 bit 
ASCII characters, which does increase the file size, but ensures it will pass 
cleanly through any server or router that converts all LSB's to zero. (There 
should not be any such still in active use.)
MacBinary uses a larger alphabet of text characters, where some have LSBs that 
are 1, so the encoded file size is about the same as the binary original. 
MacBinary (and UUencode and other similar schemes) were used to post binary 
files to USENET and to bypass e-mail filters that blocked executable or all 
non-text attachments.
Many Mac software websites used to have two or three test files to download, 
one in MacBinary, one in BinHex and sometimes a 'bare' Stuffit archive. the 
object of that was to try downloading the archive, then the BIN then the HQX, 
to see which format of the big download you could get without corruption. If 
you couldn't download any of them cleanly, your next step was calling the ISP 
to find out what they were doing that was corrupting your downloads.

 
  From: Derek Morton 
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 6:55 AM
 Subject: Multi-fork Support or How to upgrade your OS without getting 
(de)Forked
   
Hey all…

This is kind of a vintage/modern question but it seems likely the vintage group 
will be able to better answer the questions I have as vintage folks are likely 
to have modern experience but the reverse is not necessarily true.

I have a XServe Raid hooked up to a G4 XServe running 10.4.x which I have used 
as a file server.  Over the years I have stored files from a bunch of computers 
(mostly Quadras) onto this system.  I chose 10.4 because (if memory serves) 
10.4 was the last OS to properly (fully) support multiple forks in files.  I am 
now setting up a Plex media server and would like to re-purpose the XServe RAID 
for media storage (at least until I outgrow it).  I have a new (to me) 2009 
XSserve running 10.11.x which is running the Plex software.

Here (finally) are my questions:

Am I correct in that 10.4.x is the last OS which fully supports the classic Mac 
OS multi-fork architecture (no lost resource forks or corrupted files)?

If I connect the XServe Raid to the new XServe and copy the files to another 
store point will I corrupt the files in the process?

Would I be able to make a disk image of the drives without losing anything?

Is there any harm (to existing files) in just connecting the XServe Raid to a 
10.11.x system?

I can always get the G4 to perform the backup, but would like to connect the 
XServe Raid to the new XServe so I can use the excess capacity for storage as I 
copy over countless DVD’s and Blu-Rays.

I still have my multitude of 68K computers and would prefer to not lose the 
programs stored on my XServe Raid.

Thanks for whatever assistance or thoughts you can offer in this regard.

   

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Re: very old versions of adobe photoshop?

['Gregg Eshelman' via Vintage Macs]

Try here http://macintoshgarden.org/search/node/photoshop


 
  From: "kristen.r...@gmail.com" 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 7:57 PM
 Subject: very old versions of adobe photoshop?
   
Does anyone have older versions of photoshop - 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, etc available to 
download, or attach?

thanks!
Kris
   
 

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Re: Driver for Digital Vision ComputerEyes/RT Video Digitizer

['Gregg Eshelman' via Vintage Macs]

Plug www.digvis.com into archive.org and you can download the software from old 
copies of the website. You'll want to go through the history to find the latest 
version that's been archived. May also want to grab older versions too.

Someone in the San Francisco bay area just posted this on Craigslist about an 
hour ago.https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/sys/5676993679.html
Getting ready to move and must part with some vintage mac stuff; looking for 
hobbyist/collector who might get use out of:
1. Powerbook 520C with power supply and (rare) SCSI adapter cable. Boots up 
(7.1) and works.
2.Powermac 7600/120 also works, running OS9. One of the few early macs with 
video/frame grabber built in, if I recall correctly
3. Powermac 7100/66. Possibly the last macs to use SCSI, it also uses an AV 
monitor with built in speakers. I could get it to boot today, always worked in 
the past. 
4. ComputerEyes RT SCSI Video Digitizer, with installation software.
All as is, best offer, part or whole.



 
  From: "kristen.r...@gmail.com" 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 6:01 PM
 Subject: Driver for Digital Vision ComputerEyes/RT Video Digitizer
   
I'm looking for the software that would have come with Digital Vision's 
ComputerEyes RT Video Digitizer (made around 1990). This will be used on a mac 
classic II, and possibly on another Quadra model too. It would be great if 
anyone has any info on the software for this particular device, or other 
software that might work with the device to capture video and still images with 
a macintosh classic II with system 7.0 ... or if you have any info on using 
computereyes in general, thanks!
   
 

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Re: Power Macintosh G3 Beige Power Question

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Yes, the monitor can be plugged into a wall outlet. The reason for the monitor 
power connection is so you can leave the monitor switch on and turning on the 
computer will turn on the monitor.
Of course that only works with monitors that have a mechanical power switch so 
it turns on when connected to the AC power. Won't work with 'soft power' 
monitors. They'd still have to be turned on with their power button, and if 
it's one that loses settings when unplugged, every time you shut down you'd 
have to re-set them.

 
  From: John A 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 3:57 PM
 Subject: Power Macintosh G3 Beige Power Question
   
I know, I know, Im probably not supposed to post this here, but its a really 
simple question.
There is a Power Mac G3 thats beige that Im getting. It has two power outlets 
on the back. One for the computer, one for the monitor. Can I just plug the 
monitor in separately (NOT into the computer) directly into the wall outlet? Or 
does it have to be plugged into the computer? 
I know its a dumb question, but better to be safe than sorry!

   

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Re: Can a Macitnosh LC 575 read 800k Floppies?

['Gregg Eshelman' via Vintage Macs]

Steve had a batch of new DB19 connectors made for an SD card floppy emulator 
for old Macintosh, Apple II and Lisa computers. How many connectors? Only 
10,000 as that was the minimum any manufacturer would make.
The World’s Supply Of DB-19 Connectors

  
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  From: John A 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 3:39 AM
 Subject: Re: Can a Macitnosh LC 575 read 800k Floppies?
   
Thats what I thought, the site I was on said 1.44 MB, but I thought they had a 
superdrive.
   

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Re: Mac Plus Plethora of Problems

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The interleave format on the Mac Plus and SE was required because the computers 
were slow, so was their SCSI controller. The drives were also slow and had no 
built in cache memory. After the SE, the SCSI controllers Apple used were 
faster and cache began to be added to hard drives.

Unless you're using an old, cacheless drive with a Plus or SE there's no need 
to do anything but a normal 1:1 interleave. The drives spin faster and quickly 
read the requested data into their cache where the slow computer can read it in 
at its own pace. Using a different interleave can slow down a faster drive with 
cache because it will take it longer to buffer data to the cache.

To do a 3:1 (for Plus) or 2:1 (for SE) interleave requires an old formatting 
utility. Where online can those be found? I recall one French site had some Mac 
utilities for System 6 and older, one of which was an early 3rd party drive 
formatter with options for Plus, SE and all others. the all others option was 
1:1 interleave.



 
  From: "gordon.hama...@gmail.com" 
 To: Vintage Macs  
 Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 11:25 PM
 Subject: Re: Mac Plus Plethora of Problems
   
My experience is the opposite. Every SCSI drive I ever tried worked fine with 
my Mac Plus.
If you are having problems reading a SCSI drive, make sure that you have a 
terminator on the drive, but only if the drive does not supply its own.  The 
drive needs to be formatted with an appropriate interleave factor.
   

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Re: Wanted - Help in restoring Apple Laserwriter prints

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The LaserJet III series were tanks. I've heard of some with more than two 
million pages on their counters and still going, slow and steady.

I used a LaserJet IIID (with duplexer and only 20,000 or so pages printed, just 
a 'baby' printer) for a while with a Macintosh IIci that had a 60Mhz 601 
upgrade. I used a PowerPrint cable. (Still have the cable somewhere.) 
PowerPrint was a software RIP (Raster Image Processor) that converted 
PostScript to 1 bit bitmaps matching the printer's resolution. Could get 
fantastic Gaussian dithered 'greyscale' 300dpi prints of photos but the 'speed' 
was in minutes per page. The built in halftone patterns were all pretty 
horrible, looked like low resolution newsprint.

When the company was still in business, PowerPrint had a policy of giving free 
software upgrades to the latest version each cable model supported, if you told 
them the serial number on it. So I made sure to get the latest for mine.

I had a special cartridge for the LJ-III which was supposed to drastically 
speed it up, but without the other half of the system, built into a special RAM 
board replacement, the cartridge did nothing. Wouldn't have helped with the 
(lack of) speed of PowerPrint since its RIP used the Mac's CPU then had to 
dribble massive bitmaps through the slow serial port. I also had a PostScript 
cartridge for it but IIRC it only worked with Windows 3.x due to the Windows 95 
and later generic LJ driver only doing PCL.

I suspect many businesses bought a PowerPrint to take advantage of a LaserJet 
the PCs were using, then decided that they really could afford a LaserWriter 
for the Macintosh instead of taking an hour or so to print a few pages.
PowerPrint had a network version which used a "special" dedicated print server. 
I suspect the only thing "special" about it was the server's network name. I 
never could get hold of someone who had one of them, and was computer savvy 
enough to find the server's network name. I wanted to try renaming a standalone 
HP JetDirect to that name to see if it would work with the network PowerPrint 
software. While that wouldn't have sped up the RIPping process, it would 
certainly have drastically improved printing speed with sending the bitmaps out 
at 10 megabits per second.

 
  From: NODEraser 
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 8:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Wanted - Help in restoring Apple Laserwriter prints
   
 I also had an HP LJIII that was parallel-only, I ended up donating that to a 
program that's still using it.

   

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Re: CanoScan FS 2710 software

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Something for Canon scanners for OS 7.x through 9.x 
http://support-au.canon.com.au/contents/AU/EN/0900288001.html
Might e-mail the Australian Canon people and ask if they can dig up the OS 7 
Mac software for that scanner. It's certainly old enough that it's likely it 
originally was released with OS 7 support.
Reminds me of when I was using old UMAX SCSI flatbed scanners and the only 
place to get the old Mac and Win 9x/2K software was from the German UMAX site. 
Surprisingly they had it all in both English and German versions. All the other 
UMAX sites had been completely scrubbed of anything predating OS X and Windows 
XP.


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Re: CanoScan FS 2710 software

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Here's a link with software for OS 8 and 9, and OS X, and Linux, and of course 
various 
Windows.https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/scanners/support-scanners-canoscan-series/canoscan-fs2710

Click on Drivers and downloads, then Drivers, then select your OS.




From: Robert Hesson <rhesso...@gmail.com>
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I have my system all set to scan a ton of old 35mm slides and I can't find the 
disk for the scanner. The link on canon's website appears to be broken.

Anyone have this scanner software or a disk image of it? Need it badly.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone
   
 

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Re: Unknown SE/30 PDS Video card

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On 2/17/2016 12:40 AM, Jochen Schäfer wrote:

Thanks for the infos.
Would still be interesting to know how the card is called. Would be a nice 
addition for the LEM library ;)
I hope to get the VGA adapter in a few days. I will follow up, if I see 
something ;)
Regarding drivers: I was asking, because I had a MacIIsi with a Radius card and 
monitor. I remember having drivers for that one.


A video card should work without software installed, but often the 
software enables features like being able to change resolution.


There are a number of NuBus video cards where their control panels cause 
problems if installed in the System folder in 7.5.5 or later but will 
still work if run after booting. Why is that? Because Apple changed 
quite a bit with each release from 7.1 through 7.5.5. Some companies 
just gave up after Apple broke their software *yet again* with the 7.5.5 
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Re: ADB KVM Switch?

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On 2/6/2016 12:06 PM, Tim Martin wrote:


I cannot remember ever daisychaining two macs to the same keyboard and
mouse. You provoke me to a test.


I once connected an ADB cable between two old Powerbooks. The results 
were that they'd swap apparently randomly back and forth with the 
trackball on one controlling the pointer on the other.


Why did I do that? It was in the very early days of my Macintosh 
experience and the ADB symbol looked to me like it could be for 
networking. "Hrmmm, Appletalk port maybe?"


At least nothing got fried!


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Re: May 1999 Software Recovery discs?

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On 2/5/2016 7:23 PM, Dark_Mac wrote:


On Feb 4, 2016, at 9:44 PM, 'Gregg Eshelman' via Vintage Macs wrote:


On 2/4/2016 5:54 PM, Dark_Mac wrote:

p/n: 691-0391-E Apple Application Software
p/n: 691-2363-A Apple System Software For Power Macintosh G3 and iMac
computers

The Legacy disc included in both sets was from 1998.




I have that, good copy and as backup I just downloaded it from the
Garden. I'd like to get downloads for the two discs listed above for
the May 1999 set.

The Legacy CD was put together in 1998 and AFAIK never changed in
later releases.


The Garden has both of these discs, as I Downloaded them last night
after I send my email.

The first one is here:
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/apple-applications-recovery-cd

Second one is here:
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/apple-system-software-recovery-cd-2

Here is the lest of the set:
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/apple-system-software-recovery-1-dated-1998

Hopefully these are what you are looking for.


Those are the edition from 2000. I'm looking for the 1999 edition.


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Re: Mac Plus hangs for 30 seconds at boot before disk icon?

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On 2/5/2016 8:32 PM, BZ wrote:


Is this related to the 4MB upgrade? I can't find any reference to this
issue in the Larry Pina books or anywhere else. Could it be somehow
normal? Any thoughts?


Yes, it's testing the RAM and you cannot disable the test on 68K Macs, 
so you just have to wait the extra time.



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Re: May 1999 Software Recovery discs?

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On 2/4/2016 5:54 PM, Dark_Mac wrote:


On Feb 4, 2016, at 3:06 AM, 'Gregg Eshelman' via Vintage Macs wrote:


Two of my discs for the May 1999 Software Recovery set have developed
unrecoverable errors just sitting around. :(

p/n: 691-0391-E Apple Application Software
p/n: 691-2363-A Apple System Software For Power Macintosh G3 and iMac
computers

The Legacy disc included in both sets was from 1998.


Gregg,

Are wanting access to the following:

Apple Legacy Recovery.dmg ?  If yes I can post it on my Drop box and
provide a link to it.


I have that, good copy and as backup I just downloaded it from the 
Garden. I'd like to get downloads for the two discs listed above for the 
May 1999 set.


The Legacy CD was put together in 1998 and AFAIK never changed in later 
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May 1999 Software Recovery discs?

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Two of my discs for the May 1999 Software Recovery set have developed 
unrecoverable errors just sitting around. :(


p/n: 691-0391-E Apple Application Software
p/n: 691-2363-A Apple System Software For Power Macintosh G3 and iMac 
computers


I've tried various disc imaging tools but all failed.

Any source to download? Macintosh Garden has a set from May 2000 but 
there are possibly some things on the May 1999 discs that aren't on the 
newer release.


The Legacy disc included in both sets was from 1998.

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Re: Copying OS 8 from CD to floppies

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On 2/3/2016 6:40 AM, Lee Kolb wrote:

First, let me emphasize that I am not a hobbyist. I use my Macs for
record keeping, tax preparation, etc. So I am not looking to add any
gadgets that I don't really need.

Ideally, I could connect a CD drive to the SCSI port of the LC475 and
load the operating system from the CD. I was given some CD drives with
the Mac, but the computer does not recognize them, and I have not been
able to load a driver for them that works.

I use a ZIP drive for my daily backups, and could copy from the CD to a
ZIP disk, but am facing the same problem as copying to floppies; the ZIP
not have the capacity to hold the entire operating system.


Check here. http://macintoshgarden.org/search/node/recovery

The one for Power Mac before G3 has OS 8 installers which work on 68040 
Macs.


Might be one small enough to fit on a Zip disk.

The Legacy CD has a ton of useful stuff for older Macs. It even has 
apple ][ and some Windows software, but *nothing* for Apple ///, and 
only the final updates for A/UX.



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Re: Copying OS 8 from CD to floppies

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On 2/3/2016 4:10 PM, Lee Kolb wrote:

I really appreciate your help. You have given me a couple of things to
try, and I will report back when I've given them a shot. Downloading the
OS to floppies isn't an option; I don't have a Mac connected to the
internet. (Really stone age here.) I would be happy with system 7.1 on
the LC425 but to try the hard drive swap, I first need to obtain a copy
of the enabler. Swapping hard drives with the Quadra should be a
straightforward effort, so I'll see if that works first. If not, I'll
dig out the CD drives I was given and ask for help in trying to load a
driver for one of them. Thank's again.


Tome Viewer is a very useful program for extracting things from the Mac 
OS and System install tome files. Very useful to pull out things like 
the Apple CD-ROM extensions instead of running the install again.


http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/tomeviewer


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Re: Copying OS 8 from CD to floppies

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On 2/3/2016 5:54 PM, Brendan Shanks wrote:

If you only have a PC with internet access, it should be able to write
the floppies out as well. Just needs a floppy drive (a USB floppy drive
would even work).


Uncompressed 1.44M Mac floppy images can be written to disks with 
Windows by using RAWRITE for Windows. RAWRITE is also included with most 
Linux distros as a command line utility.


Compressed or self mounting or self extracting floppy image? Nope. Not 
without using a Mac emulator.


A Macintosh emulator is a very handy thing to have on your PC when you 
have a bunch of old Macs with no Internet access. You can even network 
the emulator with real Macs and pit it against the real ones in a 
multiplayer game of BOLO using 'brains' for them all.


The emulator will nearly always handily beat the real Macs, so if you're 
tired of being able to beat the brains, run them on the emulator on the 
PC while you restrict yourself to BOLO on a real Mac. :)



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Re: Color Classic hard drive intermittent

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Could be the edge connectors at the front of the logic board need cleaned.

On 12/15/2015 10:43 AM, slaws wrote:

Wesley,

Yes, I've swapped those drives out a couple of times during this process
and so the connections have been removed and reconnected several times.

Shane

On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 10:00:59 AM UTC-5, Wesley wrote:

Have you tried re-seating the drive connections and making sure they
are
firmly re-connected?

Wesley



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Odd NuBus card on eBay

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Anyone know what it is? No external connectors. Looks like just an EPROM 
and a bunch of other chips and components.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/201469397533

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Re: Trying to run 8.6 on iMac DV SE that shipped with 9.0.4

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On 11/7/2015 7:26 PM, John-Robert La Porta wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am in need of running 8.6 in a mix of Macs to maintain a level of
transferability between several of them. I need to try and figure out
how to run 8.6 on my iMac DV SE, but others have stated that it can only
run the lowest system that it shipped with. However, DV SEs originally
shipped with 8.6, and this was changed to 9.0.4 at some point down the
line...with no hardware changes that I am aware of. Is it possible to
get 8.6 going on this, in any sort of way? Any suggestions for what I
might do?


Why do you need to have the same system on them all? Unless you have 
some software that is incompatible with 9.x.x I don't see a need for 
this. The G series CPUs get the most benefit from updating to 9.2.2 
since they were where most of the post 9.1 updates were aimed.


7.1 through 9.2.2 have very good inter-operability. They all either come 
with OpenTransport or it can be added (7.1 through 7.5 don't come with 
it but it can be installed). OSX through 10.8 supports OpenTransport. It 
was removed in 10.9 and nobody with the hacking skills to take OT from 
10.8 and shove it into 10.9 cared enough to do it, not even just to see 
if they could.


They can all read and write to the HFS file system. Mac OS 8.1 and up 
can use HFS+. 8.1 cannot boot from HFS+ on a Mac with a 68040 CPU.


The System versions that have the worst reputation for compatibility 
problems were 7.3 to 7.5.3. Just about every release through that range 
broke something for someone. It got so bad that some companies gave up 
on Macintosh products. 7.5.5 was Apple's attempt to fix everything, but 
couldn't entice Radius to release yet another software update for their 
NuBus video cards.


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Re: Trying to run 8.6 on iMac DV SE that shipped with 9.0.4

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On 11/7/2015 10:35 PM, Jason Johnson wrote:

If the imac DVSE came with 8.6, then 86. imac install media will work,
but, and its a big but, it checks for the identifier that says its a mac
of the specific model.  This was true to even the performas of the early
90's.  If its not the correct line it says this system version will not
work on this macintosh.  I will look as i do have 8.6 on an original
ibook, and imac but I have not tried the media in a DVSE.


The iMac firmware update would be a good idea, and it *must* be done 
before attempting to boot a CRT iMac with any OS X disc.


Rather than check the firmware version right off then gracefully quit 
with a report that the firmware must first be updated, OS X will booger 
the PRAM and Open Firmware data *then* tell you the bad news. It can be 
quite a chore to get the iMac to boot back to Mac OS so the firmware can 
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Re: Question about Macs? // AOL shuts down AOL 4.0 and 5.0 (drat!)

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On 10/19/2015 8:40 PM, NODEraser wrote:

Quite frankly, I'm surprised that they supported version 4/5 this late
at all... I beta tested those versions when I still had AOL, circa
1998/99(?) That's actually pretty decent for proprietary access software.

If you already have DSL, you could network your Macs together using
Ethernet or AppleTalk. You can still use the old versions of Eudora for
POP/IMAP email, should be pretty easy to find a provider or host your own.


There is one old Mac version of Eudora that insists on converting e-mail 
addresses to all uppercase. I encountered that one back in 2001 while 
working help desk at an ISP.


We had a customer using that specific version and he complained that his 
e-mails were bouncing back from AOL. At the time, AOL used case 
sensitive e-mail addresses. Why, I dunno. No other online service or ISP 
did (or does), that I know of. Could send them email with addresses in 
any combination of upper and lower case and they don't care.


I researched it thoroughly, all the customer's settings were correct. 
The only solution was to update to the next newer release of Eudora for 
68k Macintosh.


Nooo, the customer insisted that us, the ISP, had to fix the problem. He 
didn't want to change his e-mail software. Boss told me to find a fix. I 
said I did, the fix is for the customer to upgrade Eudora to the next 
release that has that bug fixed.


It's known as "helldesk" for *reasons*.

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Re: Looking for a Mac version of the Thrustmater WCS

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On 9/25/2015 6:44 PM, Carlos Randolph wrote:

I stumbled upon a set of the Thrustmaster Mark I joystick and rudder
pedals.  Would love to a Mac version of the Throttle / Weapons Control
System.  Looking for the Mark I version.


Here's for OS X, you'd need an ADB to USB adapter
https://sourceforge.net/projects/tmmacosx/

And at the bottom of this page is the old Mac OS driver.
http://ts.thrustmaster.com/eng/index.php?pg=view_files=1=3=60=1


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Re: Need some info on how to use Asante card in Macintosh SE...

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On 9/10/2015 2:30 PM, Spenser Whaley wrote:

You seem to misunderstand. I am aware that PC floppy drives can't format
those kind of disks. If the Mac floppy drives are SCSI and use the same
floppy port as the card I found then I could use a PC to format them
because I'm using a Mac floppy drive and not a PC one. It's not using a
FDD controller either. It's the SCSI controller.

But it's a mute point anyways. I took a look at some ebay photos of mac
floppy drives and the connectors appear to be smaller then what the
floppy connector on the SCSI card I found has. This means that whatever
interface Apple used, it's not standard to SCSI, so it's really not
happening on a PC. :(


Apple used their own proprietary floppy drive interface for Macintosh, 
somewhat based on the apple ][ floppy interface. One model of low 
density Apple 3.5" drive was made that works on both apple ][ and 
Macintosh computers that have an external floppy port.


The 400K single sided and 800K double sided Macintosh floppy formats can 
only be read/written by Macintosh computers. They can be read by a PC or 
Amiga computer that has a Catweasel floppy controller, don't know if 
that allows writing to the format.


When adopting the 1.44M floppy format, Apple decided to NOT go their own 
way and made their format compatible with the basic low level data 
structure of the disc, so with 3rd party software high density Mac 
floppies can be read and written on Windows, Amiga and other systems.


Even better is that HFS Standard at its low level is very similar if not 
identical to FAT16 and HFS Extended is very similar if not identical to 
FAT32.


If you don't want to use 3rd party or hacked Apple software to format 
SCSI hard drives that don't have an Apple branded ROM, connect the 
drives to a PC with a SCSI controller and format them to FAT16 or FAT32.


Then when you connect them to a Macintosh all you have to do is chose to 
Erase the drive and select HFS or HFS Extended. In a few seconds the 
drive is Mac formatted.


I have not tried that with more than one partition/volume per drive.


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Re: iMac dvse

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Does your iMac DV have a DVD drive? I used to have a CRT iMac DV with a 
CD-ROM, not even a CD burner. How could it be dubbed digital video 
without even the capability of playing DVDs, let alone burning them?


On 7/9/2015 5:11 AM, 'Matt' via Vintage Macs wrote:

Hi Barry,

It could be worth checking out this Uk centric site that have pages of parts, 
old and new:

http://www.macking.co.uk

Cheers,
  Matt


On 8 Jul 2015, at 12:06, Barry Cross ygwe...@gmail.com wrote:

The speakers have popped on my iMac DVse does anyone know where I can get them 
in the uk?




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Re: Vintage Hardware Question

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On 7/5/2015 1:04 AM, Dylan McDermond wrote:



On Jul 4, 2015, at 6:17 PM, andy.heinz...@gmail.com wrote:

I need to extend the power key of my ADB keyboard (over 50 feet) and have been 
looking at several different solutions.



The power-on function is achieved simply by grounding pin 2 on the ADB 
connection. Theoretically, you could connect any two wires to pin 2 and pin 4, 
touch them together and soft-power the machine on.


S-Video cables make perfect replacements for ADB cables. They're 
available in much longer lengths.



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Re: Screen Saving?

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On 6/2/2015 2:24 PM, Charles Hudson wrote:


Some compressed files expand to .DSK files which I'm guessing get
written to 3.5 floppies, although the Mac doesn't seem to know what to
do with them.  I have OS 8.0 and it seems .DSK can be handled by OSX.



And then there are .SIT files that expand to .IMG files.  In addition to
not having any idea how to write an .IMG file on the Mac, I also can't
see how I'm going to get it off the Mac and back to something that can
write a CD.  I may have to wait on those for a while.


Get Apple's Disk Copy software. http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/disk-copy

Uncompressed Disk Copy and other uncompressed floppy images can be 
written to a floppy on Linux or Windows with RAWRITE or other raw sector 
copy/write software.


Compressed Disk Copy images will only work on a Mac using Disk Copy.

With Disk Copy installed you can use it to mount the image files on the 
Desktop then run software from them or copy it out to the hard drive or 
other media.


An image with the .smi extension is a Self Mounting Image and almost 
always compressed. Those must not be run through any non-Mac system 
without being archived. If they lose their resource fork you cannot 
mount them or use Disk Copy to write them to a real disk, unless 
possibly other utilities can access or write an uncompressed .smi I 
don't recall ever encountering an uncompressed .smi


How an .smi works is the resource fork contains a minimal program to 
mount the image and some other data it requires to access the image 
contents.


I've often wondered why nobody ever made an .smi repair utility. Is the 
format so complex or each .smi unique to where it would be impossible to 
create a new resource fork or convert to a regular .img? Or was it just 
one of those things were no Mac programmer could be bothered to code 
such a utility because *they* never managed to have the resource fork 
'scraped off' an .smi they needed to mount?



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Re: Screen Saving?

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On 5/31/2015 6:12 AM, Charles Hudson wrote:

Mac Quadra 650 with Apple 13 color monitor, OS8.  Can't find a setting
for a screen-blanker / screen-saver.  Apple Help does not include a
topic.  Apple Help does include a topic for sleep but does not include
instructions for setting or activating it.  Any suggestions?  Thanks.


You might find something here
http://ftp.vim.org/infomac/

Most of the info-mac.org FTP archives are gone, and there's a lot of old 
software no longer on the main or any of the mirror sites that are left.


Try Bit Jugglers Under Ware
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/underware-20

Looks like the modules are compatible between 1.0.1 and 2.0.1. Also 
supposed to support After Dark modules but might only work with AD 1.x.


I used to run Under Ware on an old Mac but I don't recall if it was 
1.0.1 or 2.0.1. Never could get any AD modules to work with it, never 
could find anything but AD 2 and newer modules.


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Re: Powermac 6500/225 capacitors

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On 5/19/2015 12:36 PM, Jonathan Morton wrote:



On 19 May, 2015, at 21:33, 'Keith Jamison' via Vintage Macs 
vintage-macs@googlegroups.com wrote:

Matsushita is now known as Panasonic.


AFAIK, Matsushita has always used Panasonic as an alternate brand name; the two 
refer to the same Japanese company.  Panasonic is a rather more 
consumer-friendly name in the West.


Some people tend to snerk and giggle at the sushi in the middle of the 
name, or take the SU off and add one letter to the right.



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Re: Asante networking with se/30 - problem

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On 5/13/2015 11:08 AM, Daniel wrote:

Hi group,


Some time ago, i bought an Asante network card for my SE/30 (running
7.5.5 and equipped with 16mb ram and a 10.1 GB harddrive (using a Acard
7720u scsi bridge)). I installed the nic and setup the drivers from the
Asante driver disc that came with it.

When reading about the MAC having problems negotiating speed with modern
routers, i also bought a 10Base-T hub from Ebay. When i start the mac,
the lights on the hub (as well as downstream) indicate that there is
some kind of connection. Looking at the daughter card on the backside of
the mac, i can see one of them lighting up (the bottom one). The other
light never comes on.


Far as I know, no 10 megabit Ethernet hardware ever had auto 
configuration on the connection. Newer 100 megabit equipment does so you 
can use crossover or straight through cables interchangeably.


From the Mac to the 10 megabit hub you MUST use a straight through 
cable. Even if your 100 megabit router can reconfigure for a crossover 
cable, it may not be able to do so if what's on the other end is old 10 
megabit equipment, so use a straight through cable there.


If the 100 meg router has a port for connecting to another router or 
hub, connect the 10 megabit hub to it.


Another way around old 10 megabit gear that doesn't properly identify 
itself is to use a 100 meg router with managed ports. Older ones have a 
RS232 port usually marked console. Newer ones can be logged into over 
Ethernet.


With those you can manually set the port the old Mac is connected to as 
10 megabit, half duplex.



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Re: Non -apple hard disk drives.

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On 4/16/2015 7:32 AM, the_conner wrote:

HI

I am looking for an old conner hard drive (CFS1275A)
I have one that has lots of memories on it and would like to recover the
data

I was wondering if you may have the above drive or similar that you
could donate please


1.2 gig drive. Nero Burning ROM on Windows may be able to burn the 
contents directly to a DVD-R.


I know it can do that with SCSI hard drives of 700 meg or less to a 
CD-R. They'll even boot a Mac if the hard drive was bootable.


Never tried it with IDE drives or larger than would fit a CD-R.

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Re: making boot/system disks - do i have what's needed?

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On 2/5/2015 5:47 PM, Ronathan2001 wrote:

I'm seeking advice on the creation of floppies to get my 512K, Plus and
SE up and running. I just ordered a Sabrent USB external 1.44 floppy
drive and some 2HD Mac-formatted disks for my 2006 MacBook Pro running
Snow Leopard.

Is there anything else I need to get started?  What's the next step?


The only drives that can format 400K and 800K Macintosh format floppies 
are the drives that came with the old Macintosh computers.


That's one very good reason to have a Macintosh Classic. Its built in 
ROM operating system enables it to be booted without a floppy, then 
format and copy all three Macintosh floppy formats.


The USB floppy will do you no good for the old Macs. You must obtain a 
400K or 800K bootable floppy.


For the Plus you can connect an external SCSI drive. The SE can have an 
internal SCSI hard drive and external SCSI drives.


Does your SE happen to be an FDHD model? Those came with a 1.44M 
Superdrive, for which you can use the USB floppy drive to format disks.


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Re: Quadra 950 semi conscious

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On 2/1/2015 11:31 AM, 'Don Wakefield' via Vintage Macs wrote:

Anyone have any tricks to convince this guy to boot from the CD? (Or
maybe it can't see out the ADB port.) Pushing down the fist of keys
which is supposed to tell it to look anywhere other than the HD does not
seem to work. Nor does pressing C on start up.


It doesn't do the C thing. Try Command Option Shift Delete #
where # is the number of the SCSI ID of your CD-ROM. You must use the 
top row number keys, not the number pad keys.


CD-ROM drives were usually set to ID 3 by Apple.


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Re: Macintosh SE with two 800k drives to Superdrive Upgrade or Options?

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On 1/5/2015 12:03 PM, Jeff Walther wrote:


As others mentioned, the SWIM chip is the difficult component.  1.44
superdrives are not difficult to find.  In the worst case, you can get a
couple of blank Flash or EEPROM chips of the proper capacity and pin
configuration and burn the updated ROM contents to them and install them
in the SE.   But there's no way to fabricate that SWIM chip.   Oh, it's
theoretically possible, but no one has done it yet.


Here's a reflashable ROM 
http://www.bigmessowires.com/2014/12/20/rewritable-rom-disk-for-mac-plus/ with 
space for a ROM Disk.


He's working on a complete Mac Plus hardware replication using a 68000 
CPU and a CPLD. Part of that chip will be configured as the IWM.


I wonder how much difference there is between IWM and SWIM? The 1.44M 
operation should be simpler/easier than reading and writing 400/800K 
since the disk speed and sectors per track are constant.


SWIM Chip User's Reference
http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/NetBSD/misc/wrstuden/Apple_PDFs/SWIM%20Chip%20User%27s%20Ref.pdf

http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/NetBSD/misc/wrstuden/Apple_PDFs/SWIM Chip User's 
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Re: Macintosh SE with two 800k drives to Superdrive Upgrade or Options?

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On 1/4/2015 8:37 PM, Michael Racanelli wrote:

Just picked up a Mac SE for $20.  Interested in what my options are for
getting it running.

I used to collect vintage macs a few years back, so I do know my way
around a little.  Got rid of everything years ago, but decided to pick
this up today and have ONE machine to tinker with.

It has two 800k drives and no HD.  What are my options as far as
removing one of the 800k drives, adding an HD?  Or maybe swapping out
the drives with 1.44 superdrives?

I know if I swap them out I also need to swap out the ROM chips as well
and apple used to sell an upgrade for this.

I'm keeping an eye on a SCSIethernet adapter as well.


Hard drive would be easy. Get a cable for it and replace one floppy. 
Dunno if the bracket is different.


To upgrade to 1.44M floppy you also need the SWIM (Super Woz Integrated 
Machine) chip to replace the IWM (Integrated Woz Machine) chip, plus the 
updated ROM.



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Re: Macintosh Quadra 700 Hard Drive Help

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On 12/31/2014 6:47 PM, Will Kubic wrote:

For Christmas, I received a Macintosh Quadra 700. No hard drive. The
base system with no upgrades.

So I bought an official Apple 1000mb SCSI hard drive. I installed it,
plugged it in through SCSI and loaded up System 7.5's Disk Tools.


Some good information

http://support.apple.com/kb/TA27743

Basically, take all three ID jumpers off the hard drive. Set its jumpers 
to enable termination but disable TERMPWR or termination power. Connect 
the hard drive to the end of the internal cable and the CD-ROM, if it 
has one, to the second connector.


The external end of the SCSI bus is supposed to be auto terminating but 
it won't hurt to get a terminator with a DB25 connector and put it on 
the external SCSI port.


If you have only one external device, it should work without having 
TERMPWR enabled but should be terminated either on the device itself or 
with an external terminator.


With two or more external devices, enable TERMPWR and termination on the 
device at the end of the chain.


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Re: Macintosh IIsi help

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On 12/28/2014 11:35 PM, 'Keith Jamison' via Vintage Macs wrote:


So I did some more research and thinking it was the internal video, I
purchased a VGA card that fits in the Nubus riser on the IIsi. I first
tried the straight adaptor (no display) and then I began the same
process as before with the Griffin Mac PnP adaptor (again, no display).


You need an adapter that separates synch from the green into horizontal 
and vertical synch. Nothing else but an old Apple monitor or other old 
monitor+adapter with synch on green support will work with the built in 
video.


Google macintosh video sense pins for information on how Apple setup 
their old monitors so a Mac would automatically work with them. Each 
monitor only supported one resolution, which was chosen for each screen 
size so it would display 72 pixels per inch. 72 PPI was a common 
publishing standard and since Apple was heavily targeting the publishing 
industry with Macintosh and LaserWriter, they wanted what was printed to 
exactly match the screen and the only way to do that was to not allow a 
monitor's resolution to be changed. Apple eventually realized humans 
have the ability to see that two things are identical even when they 
don't appear to be exactly the same size - and started having 
multi-resolution monitors made for Mac. That of course was still before 
Display Data Channel and required adding diodes to the sense pin 
configurations.


You have checked the PRAM battery for correct voltage and that it's in 
the holder the right way around? Many old Macs will not start up at all 
with a dead PRAM battery.


Could also be It's dead, Keith. I'm a Dr. not an electrician! Pushing 
up the silicon daisies. Will only go *foom* if you run 10,000 volts 
through it. Pining for the fiords... In such case, time to hunt up 
another IIsi board or find someone who can attempt to fix the one you have.


There is a hack to upgrade the little 12 Mac monitor to the useful 
resolution of 640x480 and expand the image to lose the large black 
border. No longer 72 PPI, boo-hoo. It's a difficult hack and AFAIK the 
how-to was only ever on the web in Japanese - and it's not much at all 
close to the 640x480 hack for the Color Classic and Color Classic II.


The IIsi and SE-30 PDS are the same. They are NOT the same as the IIci 
cache slot which is actually a PDS, but for unknown bizarre Apple-ish 
reasons electrically incompatible with the same connector as used in the 
other two models.


The IIci type slot was also used in the IIvi and IIvx, and also on CPU 
upgrade adapters made by DayStar and other companies for various other 
68K Macs.


DO NOT ever directly plug a card designed for the IIci type PDS directly 
into the PDS of a IIsi or SE-30. Bad things will happen, usually to the 
card but sometimes to the computer.


The oddity is compounded by some dual adapter cards (mostly for the 
IIsi) that have one slot straight through and one converted to IIci 
style. That's so a CPU upgrade and one SE-30 or IIsi PDS card can be 
plugged in at the same time.


*Usually* the two connectors will be labeled. On DayStar adapters the 
IIci style slot will be labeled cache card or powercache.


For one specific model of video card, Daystar made a special adapter to 
put it first in line before the CPU upgrade because that one card would 
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Re: IIfx power suply

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On 12/21/2014 10:11 AM, Marek Drvota wrote:

Hi all,

finally I was able to clean up my newly acquired Mac IIfx just to realize that 
it won’t start.
I’d like to check whether power supply or logic board failed - do any of you 
know how to check if powersupply is ok or not ?


Look at all the capacitors, the small parts that are shaped like little 
cans with a plastic wrap.


On top you'll see pressed in lines forming an X or K. The tops should be 
flat, no dome or bulging and especially no splitting with goo oozing out.


If you have any bulged or split capacitors, you should replace all of 
them on the logic board. Open up the power supply and check its 
capacitors too.


If you aren't up to recapping your IIfx, there are list members who do 
it for a reasonable fee.


The worst that can happen from leaking caps is the electrolyte leaks 
around the base, onto the PCB and corrodes through some of the traces. 
Top layer traces can often be repaired using a jumper wire. If the 
damage is deep, into one of the inner layers, the only way to fix it is 
if the damaged trace connects to a nearby via that comes to the top so a 
jumper can be soldered.


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Re: Pagemaker 4.2 on iMac

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On 12/1/2014 8:20 AM, Barry Cross wrote:

I have an iMac DV with a floppy drive attached and wish to load
Pagemaker 4.2 onto it. Will it run on this Mac using OS 9.2?

Possible clue? I tried the first disc and got the message 'this disc is
unreadable?

I have used it on a Beige G3 Mac  using OS 8.5


If the disks have only one square hole, they are 400K or 800K disks. 
Only an original Mac floppy drive can read those. USB floppy drives can 
only read/write disks that have a format compatible with the PC/DOS 720K 
or PC/Mac 1.44M type.


You could try making uncompressed Disk Copy images of the floppies on 
the Beige G3 then putting them all onto a CD-R or flash drive, Zip disk etc.


Mount them all on the desktop on the iMac and install.

You may be able to simply copy all the files from all the floppy disks 
to a single CD-R, flash drive or other media large enough to hold them all.


If your iMac was one of the first two versions it would have a spot on 
the mainboard to solder in a connector for a Macintosh floppy drive.



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Re: Macintosh IIsi - no video

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On 11/23/2014 3:31 PM, 'Keith Jamison' via Vintage Macs wrote:


The Mac IIsi is not as co-operative. The start-up chime is fine and the
fan and HDD spin up but there's no video. I've tried two monitors, both
known to be working with my other Macs (including the 7100). There's a
fresh PRAM battery installed.


The IIsi (and most other 68K Macs) require fixed frequency monitors that 
only have a single resolution.


Since an analog RGB video output only needs at most 8 pins, 2 each color 
for signal and ground and 2 more for H and V sync, that left several 
pins in the 15 pin connector to use for the Mac to sense which monitor 
size is connected. (Some of the earliest PC implementations of VGA used 
a DE-9 connector, same as the old Mono, Hercules, CGA and EGA TTL 
digital video displays.)


Somewhere on the web there should be a chart of which pins connect for 
each resolution. When the 040 CPU Macs came along, so did larger 
monitors so the sense pin connections got more complicated.


It's simple to make a converter for a single resolution using a DA to DE 
shell and a male DA-15 and a female DE-15HD (VGA) connector. Or use a 
female DA-15 if you want to connect a newer, multi-resolution Mac monitor.


Or you can use two single ended connector shells and a short length of 
VGA monitor cable, or chop the female end off a VGA extender cable to 
wire up a new DA-15.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature I dunno why so many people 
incorrectly use DB-9. DB is the size of the 25 pin Apple SCSI / PC 
parallel port connector. Do not plug a Mac monitor into a PC's joystick 
port, nor a PC joystick into a Mac monitor port. In the first case 
you'll likely end up with a fried (literally fried, burned wires etc.) 
gameport. The person who brought that PC in for repair didn't bring the 
old Mac monitor he plugged into it so I couldn't test it. So far I've 
not encountered the results of joystick connected to Mac video port, so 
dunno if damage will happen.


There are also monitor adapters with rotary or DIP switches that enable 
plugging just about any multi-frequency/resolution monitor into an old 
Mac's DA-15 port. Some of those were quite expensive, especially the one 
Griffin used to sell, often for more than the cost of a used old Macintosh.


At some point the PC industry came up with DDC (Display Data Channel) 
using the extra pins for the monitor to tell the computer its 
capabilities, enabling automatic configuration and support of a much 
larger number of resolutions than Apple's hard wired sense pins.


But even with an adapter to provide the sense pin setup, the monitor you 
use must support the uniquely Apple scan frequencies.


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Re: Looking for info on Performa 630 CD-Format

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On 11/22/2014 9:36 AM, mrandmrs sync wrote:

Thanks a lot for all the replys!

I'm confident to make it work now, using either zip drives or the
ethernet card you pointed me to...

But before i'm giving up on the CD based solution entirely, let me give
additional info on the Performa. *The SSW is D1-7.5.1* , also, upon
startup it gives me this *error message*: (my own translation into
english, since the system is set to german)


Some CD-Dataformats could not be loaded. The remaining CD data formats
have been activated:

ISO 9660
High Sierra
Audio CD Acess
Apple Photo Access  [btn: continue]


Does this mean that ISO 9660 isn't activated (and thus means it could
be, theoretically)?

A quick Wiki research shows that this would be the format used through
today for all CD formatting, if i'm not mistaken!

Any suggestions on how to get the ISO 9660 activated on the Performa?


You need the disc format extensions from the install floppies or CD for 
your OS version. Use Tome Viewer to extract them.


Also get this Joliet extension. http://www.tempel.org/joliet/ Note the 
info that the formerly shareware version is now freeware.


You can also do a custom install and just select those CD files, but 
Apple being Apple, custom isn't quite what it should be. You'll likely 
get a bunch of other things installed anyway, just because you *might* 
need them. For example all the files for printers when you only need the 
ones for the printers you actually have. That how it just works works, 
using up a bunch of storage for drivers for everything you don't have 
but could at some point buy and connect to your Mac.


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Re: Looking for info on Performa 630 CD-Format

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On 11/22/2014 11:17 AM, andy.heinz...@gmail.com wrote:


** Lastly, you have mentioned that you received an error concerning data
formats on your Performa. According to specifications found on everymac,
the Performa 630 utilized IDE as a connection interface. I do not
remember how Apple interfaced non-SCSI devices with the OS. If you run
into problems with accessing CDs I would try installing FWB CD-ROM
toolkit software as it did provide reasonable support for many different
CD drives and interfaces.


Somewhere on lowendmac.com is an archive of software for Mac clones and 
some upgrades. Among those downloads (IIRC for a 603 CPU upgrade) is an 
OEM version of FWB CD-ROM toolkit. It happens to be a full version of 
the software that works with at least 7.5 through 9.2.2, with both 68K 
and PPC support. It also has CD changer/jukebox support.


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Re: A paint question

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On 10/15/2014 7:32 AM, 'Keith Jamison' via Vintage Macs wrote:


If anyone has experience of repainting 'Platinum' cases and can advise
me of the Pantone or Munsell or HTML Hex colour code, I'd appreciate it.


If the problem is yellowing or other discoloration, try the Retr0Bright 
process.


http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/ Free information on how to do this 
yourself with common stuff found at most grocery stores and pharmacies.


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Re: iMac DV/SE won't boot

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On 9/1/2014 8:46 AM, Barry Cross wrote:

My iMac DV/SE will not boot up, the power light comes on and the
computer chimes but nothing else.
I would appreciate all the help I can get


Unplug it, flip it upside down and remove the access cover(s) off the 
bottom as if you're going to install RAM or the AirPort card.


Look for a little surface mounted button switch on the main board. Press 
it for about 30 seconds. Put the covers back on and it should boot.



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Re: I have a origanal Black Mac TV with remote.

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S-video cables substitute just fine for ADB cables. If you can find a 
coiled, black S-video cable, there's your keyboard cable.


The sad thing about the Mac TV is that it's pretty much the worst 69030 
CPU Mac ever made. Apple took the LC520, severely crippled it by 
limiting the RAM to a max of 8 meg, then put it in a black case with a 
TV tuner only capable of displaying full screen video - but in 16 bit 
while the computer part was limited to 8 bit color.


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Re: Quadra 650 copy problem

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On 7/20/2014 10:46 AM, 'John Carmonne' via Vintage Macs wrote:

I have a Quadra 650 OS 7.5.5. I have used since 1993 daily, I know nothing 
lasts forever so I need to create another 650 to replace this if it ever fails.
Its used to transfer CNC files to our Machining Centers it uses a custom 
communication application that has to run on 7.5.5 or earlier. I have it 
connected to a G3 iMac 600 via ethernet.
I can copy files back and forth with ease but when I try to get a copy of the 
System Folder it keeps saying that files are in use and can't be copied

  I want the entire drive to make another machine. How can I do it? I did this 
stuff many years ago but have forgotten  a lot of the technical things.


Boot off a floppy disk or a Zip drive or external hard drive, same as 
you would to run Disk First Aid and other utils like drefraggers. Then 
you simply drag the hard drive icon to another storage device icon with 
enough space to hold all the files and it all copies.


You end up with a folder with the hard drive's name, and inside that 
folder are all the other folders and files, plus (IIRC) a new Desktop 
folder containing every file and alias that was on the Desktop.


To prepare the drive you copied to for booting the Mac, open the drive 
named folder and copy everything *except* the Desktop folder out to the 
root level. If the System folder doesn't have the Mac icon on it, open 
then close the folder which should bless it. If it doesn't, there are 
utilities to fix it.


After connecting the new drive, move everything out of that Desktop 
folder to the Desktop and it should be good to go.


But if you have more that one drive or partition, not everything that 
was on the Desktop may get copied. I always make a folder on the drive 
being copied from and move everything off the Desktop into it.


Something you'll want to do ASAP is take that old Mac apart (even the 
power supply) and give it a close examination for capacitors that are 
leaking. Check their tops for any bulging or doming, they should be 
completely flat. The pressed in lines (usually in an X or K shape) are 
made to gently fail so the capacitor doesn't (usually) explode. Leaking 
around the base is worst because the electrolyte gets onto the board and 
can corrode the traces. It's especially nasty when it gets under surface 
mount components. The board will have to be washed with hot, soapy water 
and an old toothbrush to clean off the leaked electrolyte. A trip 
through a dishwasher -no dry cycle- also works. Rinse the board in clear 
(preferably distilled) water then park it in the sun to dry or a couple 
hours in a dehydrator at around 80F will do. In any case, don't apply 
power to a board for at least a day or two after washing, just to make 
certain it's dry.


If it needs recapped, there are sources for kits of capacitors for many 
models of old Macs of if you aren't a DIY solderer, there are people who 
do that service. (Google capacitor plague, interesting reading.)


Some who collect old Macs or depend on them for daily use do preventive 
recapping, replacing every original capacitor with new electrolytics or 
tantalum type or the rather recently developed solid capacitors that 
can't break down and leak. (Do note that voltage ratings are a bit 
critical on Tantalum capacitors. They tend to react explosively to even 
a little over voltage conditions.)


This reminds me of a while back when a radio astronomer in Chile was 
looking for a working mainboard for a IIci because that was the only 
thing the old system for managing the telescope data would work with. It 
was the southern hemisphere twin to a telescope in the USA, also using a 
IIci.


There was another person looking for (IIRC) a Mac IIx board for his old 
CNC punch press. Same kind of tale, hardware designed to work with a IIx 
and a specific System version - accept no substitutes because it will 
not work.


If worst comes to worst and you can no longer maintain ye olde Mac 
hardware, it may be possible to run that software on the Basilisk II 68K 
Mac emulator, which is available for several operating systems. The 
emulator supports ethernet communication through the host OS.


I used to pit a BOLO instance running on Basilisk II (on Windows 98SE) 
against BOLO on two real Macs over Ethernet. The success of BOLO Brain 
AI code is highly dependent on CPU speed, thus the emulator always won 
unless I used a simple Brain on it and more sophisticated ones on the 
real (old) Macs, and even then the emulator won a lot of the games.



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Re: HELP! Making CD image of Mac OS 8 for '040-based Mac!

['Gregg Eshelman' via Vintage Macs]

On 7/14/2014 10:44 PM, Christian Brodermann wrote:


If anyone has any advice or, if possible, instructions on how to burn
the floppy/CD images onto physical media in Windows (since my iMac Core
2 Duo is slower than cold molasses because of all the crap my family has
put on it), I would be much obliged.


Nero Burning ROM can burn any uncompressed HFS Standard image that will 
fit onto a CD-R. It can also burn directly from HFS Standard formatted 
hard drives.


I've never tried it with an HFS Extended image or drive and only burned 
from SCSI hard drives. Never tried it burning to a DVD-R either.


If the image is ISO format then any disc burner program should handle 
it. If the CD image is DMG format then you need a DMG to ISO converter.


For floppy disk images, RAWRITE for Windows can put uncompressed HFS 
disk images onto 1.44M disks. If you have compressed floppy images then 
you need a Mac (or Mac emulator) to use Disk Copy or whatever Mac 
program created the compressed images.


emaculation.com is all about Mac emulation. 68k emulators are well 
developed but PPC emulation is pretty much dead since Apple switched to 
Intel CPUs and thus completed the transition of Macintosh to just an 
expensive PC with a different operating system



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Re: Performa 630CD Info

['Gregg Eshelman' via Vintage Macs]

On 7/11/2014 10:47 AM, Christian Brodermann wrote:

The side notes on the 040 are cool, but I really do need that info on
the RAM because I need to order it.

Does the Performa 637CD support 64 MB of extra RAM or not??


It'll go up to 128+4 meg with the right SIMM. MicroMac has them, maybe, 
dunno if they still sell anything but the website is still there.


http://www.micromac.com/products/bigsimms.html

http://www.applefritter.com/node/24415

IIRC what the SIMMs must have is a lot of small capacity chips due to 
the memory controller being unable to work with high capacity chips.


In other words 2 or 4 chip SIMMs of any size won't work, has to have at 
least 8 chips for up to 32 meg. 64 meg would likely have 16 chips and 
128 meg 32.


Google MicroMac BigSIMM and you'll find more info not on the micromac site.


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