Re: Unknown board for a Mac Plus?

['Glen Allvord' via Vintage Macs]

 
 

I would carefully check the board, top and bottom, for any telltale markings 
such as Novy, ImagePro, MicroMac, Dove, Radius or the others offering CPU 
accelerators for the Plus. The right side thingy is likely some kind of 
expansion slot as Jeff mentioned. The photo reminds me of an ImagePro I once 
owned that featured a video option for a large external monitor.  --Glen




On Monday, September 7, 2020, 11:11:35 PM EDT, Phil Hosie 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi all,
Would appreciate some technical advice here.
About 15 years ago I was starting to get a bit of a collection of vintage 
compact Mac's and tinkered with them on a basic level with help from the Larry 
Pina books.About the same time, I was lucky enough to buy a Mac Plus (Beige 
colour) from a recycling place for a paltry sum of $5.00. After bring it home, 
it didn't boot up so I opened it upand discovered this unknown board? inside it 
(see photos). It wasn't connected and was still in its packaging so I removed 
it . Subsequently, I just needed to connect a few wires together and surprise, 
surprisethe unit booted up perfectly!
I'm very curious what this board might beand suggestions and knowledge 
would be appreciated.
Cheers,Phil 

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Re: SCSI conflict on Mac IIci

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 This is not very scientific but in the days of old when A SCSI conflict defied 
my logic,  I'd change the SCSI ID on one or both of the drives and /or change 
the physical location of the drives on the chain. Sometimes it worked.
On Monday, November 26, 2018, 5:25:34 PM EST, dlewis1...@gmail.com 
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 Hello,

I’m trying to resolve a SCSI conflict with two external hard drives plugged 
into my IIci.  The SCSI chain and termination seem okay and I can boot with 
either drive running, just not both together.  When i have both drives running, 
the machine will boot and then freeze on a blank screen with the chimes of 
death.

I checked the ID number for either drive and they are distinct; ie “4” versus 
“6”.

The only possible source of the problem I have come up with are broken 
partitions on one of the two drives.  Apple HD setup does not show anything 
though.

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Re: Apple ADB Keyboard and Mouse

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 Yes, I still have a few. They are tested and cleaned inside and out. I just 
sold two of them on Monday. Contact me off list.
On Tuesday, April 24, 2018, 8:07:39 PM EDT, Barry Cross  
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 Hi
Does anyone know where I can lay my hands on an Apple ADB Keyboard and Mouse, 
of any description?
RegardsBarry Cross

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Re: An old iBook, what to do with it?

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 Frustrating slow at best. I'm using a G4 1.42 Ghz  iBook with Ten Four Fox 
with a wifi connection, usually to check dictionary and reference sites while 
writing. It is very, very slow.  As posted earlier a G3 could only be less. 
OTOH, I find the iBook useful for writing (when off line) away from my usual 
location.
On Saturday, December 2, 2017, 2:00:30 AM EST, 'Gregg Eshelman' via Vintage 
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Would it be at all tolerable for basic web use with 10.4.11 and Ten Four Fox?


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Re: G3 Beige

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 I have an Adaptec 2930 and 2940 if you need a card. As said in previous post, 
depending on system requirements of the scanner go for a B Rev2 or better yet 
a G4 if compatible.
On Sunday, November 26, 2017, 11:01:31 AM EST, 
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 SCSI cards are actually pretty available via eBay and other sources, so don't 
let that discourage you from a B without a SCSI card. Look for Adaptec 2930 
or 2940 cards, depending which external physical plug you need to connect the 
scanner. 
Do you have an OS requirement as well, or will any classic OS work? The 
Graphite G4 towers are also pretty cheap these days, so if you can run 8.6 or 9 
that's also an option to put a SCSI card in.
On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 8:34 PM, Barry Cross  wrote:

I am looking for a Mac for my Linotype scanner.
I had a G3 Beige desktop which worked great,
I had to get shot of it hence the need for a replacement.
I've heard that the latter Blue G3 Macs were more reliable, except they didn't 
have SCSI built in, and I'd need an SCSI card for it which would probably be 
harder to locate.

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Re: TONS of old apple hardware and software

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I  too know the feeling of not wanting to see all your stuff go to waste. When 
i closed my printing business I had nearly 30 years of Mac stuff left over. It 
took nearly a year to catalog everything. Once cataloged, I found a regional 
used mac dealer who took most of the best stuff away and paid a reasonable 
price. i realize you may not have that much time available. The LEM Swap list 
also helped with specific items. Pick out some good ones; you will likely get 
interest. You could also try Craig’s List or Freecycle with the stipulation 
that the offer is for Mac enthusiasts only.
Best of luck— glen
 PS If anyone is interested  I still have many items left over. You can view or 
download the PDF catalog from dropbox 
at:https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g64f4ivbpqz92e/MacStuff_Vol1.pdf?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h02gbxx8pnix1pe/MacStuff_Vol2.pdf?dl=0
Every item has a photo, there is a good table of contents with bookmarks; any 
anything sold is marked. All listed prices are negotiable; just like to get 
this stuff into any Mac’ers hands that can use them.

  From: "reason22...@mypacks.net" <reason22...@mypacks.net>
 To: Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:32 PM
 Subject: Re: TONS of old apple hardware and software
   
As a newbie to this group, I certainly did not mean to cause confusion, Louis. 
I guess I was actually wondering if some one or some business bought bulk 
collections where it could all just be loaded up and taken away. But that's 
probably not realistic. However, I was PLEASANTLY surprised to see so much 
INDIVIDUAL interest there is in some of the older stuff. 
A list is certainly a reasonable request. Frankly, I don't even know what all I 
have. But again, I just wasn't expecting this conversation to go in that 
direction.
I do have a lot going on in my life at the moment, including some unplanned, 
high priority issues in my personal life and my family. So while this forum has 
given me incentive to come up with some type of list, I provided that 
information hoping folks will understand my "list" will not be available 
immediately. 
THANKS to all who have sent me notes. I'm honestly not in position to offer any 
immediate sales or whatever. And I have no clue what any shipping costs are. 
But I do appreciate your comments and your interest. 
Please allow me some time and I will follow though. Hopefully I can help 
someone!
Thanks again!-- 
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Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter //I have some Apple Laserwriters

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Ethernet cable if you have a LW IIg. For LW's without an ethernet port, one way 
would be to find an ethernet to Appletalk converter like Asante made. Not sure 
if the newer Mac OS's have the LaserWriter driver but he generic postscript 
driver should work. At least it worked for me when connecting a very old GCC 
XL20/1200 postscript laser printer to OS 10.11.6


  From: Joel Feltman <jafelt...@gmail.com>
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 Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 3:45 PM
 Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter //I have some Apple Laserwriters
   
I have a couple too!  Do you know of a method to connect them to a modern Mac?  
(USB)

 Regards,Joel FeltmanTHINK TANK TECHNOLOGIES, INC.Lake Worth, FL
 
On Jan 4, 2017, at 11:54 PM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs wrote:
I have some Apple Laserwriters.  Feel free to call me about them.  Michael 
Smith  760-808-1387   California SoCal  
   
   
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 From: 'Glen' via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
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 Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 2:34 pm
 Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
 

  
 
 On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs
 <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
 > I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
 > These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
 >
 > Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
 >
 > I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist  - nothing.
 
 Like others, I have a couple of old LaserWriters, a IIntx and IInt.  The ntx 
needs the a feed roller replacement and the nt needs the DC controller IIRC. 
Too heavy and too and hard to ship. Love to give them away if you (or anyone 
else) can arrange pickup in Connecticut. --glen  -- 
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Re: 68k Backup Options, System 7

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There was also the Dantz freeware version Diskfit Direct. Retrospect has more 
features but for a reason I don't remember I liked DiskFit Direct better. From 
Google it looks like there are a number of download sites.

  From: Justin Teague 
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 Subject: Re: 68k Backup Options, System 7
   
Lovely. Thank you!

> On Nov 26, 2016, at 11:35, Brendan Shanks  wrote:
> 
> Dantz Retrospect was the most popular/flexible backup program for classic 
> Mac. I believe Retrospect 4 still ran on 68k, 4.3 was the latest version of 
> that. Looks like the Garden has it.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Justin Teague  wrote:
>> 
>> Right. I have the HDD space, but I'm wondering if there was a 90s-era 
>> application that would automatically (or semi-automatically via scheduling) 
>> perform backups, as an INIT for example. 
>> 
>> Said simpler: is there/was there a "Time Machine" sort of capability for 68k 
>> machines with System 7?
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Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter

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> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
>
> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>
> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist  - nothing.

Like others, I have a couple of old LaserWriters, a IIntx and IInt.  The ntx 
needs the a feed roller replacement and the nt needs the DC controller IIRC. 
Too heavy and too and hard to ship. Love to give them away if you (or anyone 
else) can arrange pickup in Connecticut. --glen  

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Re: Connecting a Classic to the internet?

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I have a Danaport SCSI/Link-T Ethernet adapter. Willing to part with it; don't 
have the drivers.  Contact off-list if interested.
  From: Dylan McDermond 
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 Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 3:16 PM
 Subject: Re: Connecting a Classic to the internet?
   
He is looking for a SCSI to Ethernet adapter. The Macintosh Classic has no 
NuBus or AAUI.

- Dylan

> On Mar 1, 2016, at 12:14 PM, coverturtle  wrote:
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> I have a couple Farallon Nubus boards and might be pursuaded to give one up.
> I also have several (brands) of the ethernet gadgets that hook Apple's 
> connector
> up to RJ45 connectors.  If interested, let me know.
> Jon Kettenhofen
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>> Anyone know where I can get a Asante Desktop EN/SC-10T adapter?
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Re: Moved & now Mac won't work

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PRAM battery? Don't remember if the 7300 is effected by this.  Moving means you 
must have unplugged the 7300 so the battery may need to be replaced.
 

  From: BigClaim via Vintage Macs 
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 Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 4:44 PM
 Subject: Moved & now Mac won't work
   
 I moved and in new location, my PowerPC 7300/200 won't startup Obviously 
something happened to it in the process of moving  DRAT If I hit the keyboard 
key - the computer starts upthe hard drives start spinning   But 
nothing is sent to the monitor and the primary hard drive does not go through a 
start up The monitor has 2 lights - a "power save light" that is kind of orange 
and a green light if it is getting a signal from the computer...it never 
goes to the green light Also when I hit start up, there's no chime sound (when 
there was before) Anyone have any idea as to what happened to it? I am very 
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Re: Monitor

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  From: Dylan McDermond dy...@mcdermond.net
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 Subject: Re: Monitor
   

 On Apr 8, 2015, at 1:50 PM, sbr...@scottbrant.com sbr...@scottbrant.com 
 wrote:
 
 Thanks!
  
 Does anyone out there have a 68K era monitor they want to sell?

Where are you located?

- Dylan


Excellent question, I have several for sale in Connecticut, USA. Very Expensive 
to ship, pickup would be the way to to go. You may get lucky and find one in a 
local thrift store. -- glen

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Re: LVD-adapted drive and SCSI Voodoo question

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Maybe like the one four rows down on the left on the page below?

https://www.oddcables.com/store/productlist.asp?nav=scsidepartment=26900


I have similar one. It does fit on the external SCSI port of a IIsi and a PM 
7500 although I never used it that way. It came with an external SCSI device 
with two 25 pin ports, can't remember which one. --Glen



From: 'Keith Jamison' via Vintage Macs vintage-macs@googlegroups.com

Jonathan, that's a great suggestion. Can anyone suggest a possible termination 
device that fits into the DA25 socket, please?

Cheers all,

Keith


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It may be that all you need is a terminator plugged directly into the external 
SCSI port.
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Re: LVD-adapted drive and SCSI Voodoo question

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Here's another one less 
expensive.www.monoprice.com/Product?seq=1format=2p_id=814aid=cseCA_6C15C=1565854416



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Maybe like the one four rows down on the left on the page below?

https://www.oddcables.com/store/productlist.asp?nav=scsidepartment=26900


I have similar one. It does fit on the external SCSI port of a IIsi and a PM 
7500 although I never used it that way. It came with an external SCSI device 
with two 25 pin ports, can't remember which one. --Glen



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Jonathan, that's a great suggestion. Can anyone suggest a possible termination 
device that fits into the DA25 socket, please?

Cheers all,

Keith


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It may be that all you need is a terminator plugged directly into the external 
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Re: Need Plastic foot for Performa 6115CD

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Surprised you got the feet off without breaking the plastic that holds them in 
place. I have a few 6100's and had feet brake off from moving the computer from 
one desk to another. Their 20 year old plastic is extremely brittle, at least 
on the ones I have.
If you haven't taken the cover off yet, I found using a flat blade screw driver 
and very gently prying up the plastic tab that holds it in place will prevent 
breaking the tab off. I had a couple of tabs break off before using the screw 
driver method. If intact the cover it may be worth a couple of dollars to 
someone who has a  broken one.
If the original poster is not interested in the feet you offer, then I am --  
if shipped within the USA.You can contact me off list: glenstrek at yahoo dot 
com.
6100's are a great little pizza box Mac. Used one until a year ago for my 
business (now retired) with a FileMaker database, a 300 MHz G3 processor, 264 
MB RAM, HPV card with 4 MB RAM and networked to my newer G4's at that time. 
--glen

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I'm in the process of dismantling my 6115CD and have the 4 feet. They came off 
first, still trying to open the case so I can remove the harddrive. Let me know 
if you still need the feet. I'll be glad to send them for the cost of shipping.

On Saturday, December 11, 2010 2:47:24 AM UTC-8, iainnitro wrote:
Greetings:

I have a 6115CD Power Mac (6100 series case) that one of the plastic
feet has broken and will not re-attach to the metal chassis.  This is
the right front foot.  I have thought about trying to Gorilla Glue it
back on (there are metal tabs that hold the plastic foot on and the
plastic broke at that point)... but upon reading the back of the
Gorilla Glue bottle, it recommends against using it on polyethylene or
polypropylene plastics.  The question is:  What kind of plastic is on
our Vintage beige Macs... IIRC, it is one of those types?

It would be great if someone has a good complete foot they'd be
willing to send my way as inexpensively as possible or I am open to
repair suggestions or if someone has had a similar issue and how you
fixed it.

Thanks,

Mike

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Re: Quadra 650 copy problem

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From: 'John Carmonne' via Vintage Macs vintage-macs@googlegroups.com

I have a Quadra 650 OS 7.5.5. I have used since 1993 daily, I know nothing 
lasts forever so I need to create another 650 to replace this if it ever fails.
Its used to transfer CNC files to our Machining Centers it uses a custom 
communication application that has to run on 7.5.5 or earlier. I have it 
connected to a G3 iMac 600 via ethernet.
I can copy files back and forth with ease but when I try to get a copy of the 
System Folder it keeps saying that files are in use and can't be copied

I want the entire drive to make another machine. How can I do it? I did this 
stuff many years ago but have forgotten  a lot of the technical things. 


My reply:

Not sure how you do your current backups but if you backup to an external SCSI 
drive or if you have an external SCSI drive handy you can use Dantz's DiskFit 
Direct for backup to it. It came bundled with Iomega's Zip 100 drive. It will 
basically clone your drive. I still have a copy if you can't find it.

Or better yet you can download Redux 2.6.3(fat) at:
http://mac-guild.org/software/utilities/file%20%20folder%20utilities/

I have used this Redux backup software for my business computer for many years 
until November 2013 (when I retired) running a PowerMac 6100 backing up to an 
external SCSI drive. I had no problem restoring data and system from a 68K Mac 
to the newer PowerMac 6100. I may have had to do a clean install of the 
system, I don't remember.

Whenever I needed to change drives in the PM6100 because of a drive problem or 
for a larger drive upgrade there never were any problems restoring the data and 
the operating system from the backup drive to the new drive using Redux.


If you are limited to using system 7.5.5 then I think the newest Mac's that it 
will run on are the PCI Mac's; the 72, 73, 75, 85, 86, 95, 9600's among other 
PCI Mac's. Redux (fat) should be able to restore to those computers.


Good luck -- glen



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Re: Help with old Mac, dial-up modem and AOL hassles?

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A couple of things:
As stated in a previous posts you do have a standard Ethernet port on the 7300. 
Also as stated USB and combo USB/FireWire cards are cheap and easy to install 
as long as you are running system 8.6 or later but you will need to install or 
activate the needed USB extensions.

External SCSI Zips (or USB Zip with USB card), as well as other external drives 
with removable media for data transfer are cheap but you have to find a working 
one and may need a driver to mount the cart. And you can as stated install a 
CDRW to replace the CD-ROM. Again must find one and it may need a driver.

Suggestions:
Maybe you can network with the PC via the 7300's ethernet, -- don't know what 
system either computer is running? Or a flash drive is easy for data transfer 
if you can install a USB card. A USB/FireWire card for a 7300 IMO is a good 
idea.


If your PC has a broadband modem you may be able to connect it to the Mac? I 
still have an AOL account for old email. It sucks even more in Mac OS 10.3 thru 
10.5.: AOL just does not cater to Mac users but my account does work for email 
even with AOL 5.0 in pre-OS X Mac systems. No problem connecting with AOL 5.0 
under OS 9 via broadband.

FYI:
I put back into service a 7500, the older sister of your 7300 to test old SCSI 
drives and PCI cards. It is a little tricked out with a 450 MHz G4 upgrade, 1 
MB RAM with an ATA drive. Its also runs 10.3.9 off a 200 GB External FireWire 
Drive. Currently as I write this it is doing a 5 hr bloc by block test of an 
old  9GB full height SCSI drive that weighs 8 pounds.

Good luck -- glen







 



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I hope I am on the right board to ask for help I composed this as text message 
I have been on AOL since geez, yearsgoing back to when?   1996? All that 
time I have used the modem dial-up way to access AOL Started with version 2.7, 
3.0, 4.0, 5.0 using the dial up on the Mac
(AOL 7 to 9.7 on my PC using broadband) Along the way I also have been 
accessing AOL on Verizon via broadband
which of course, is faster than the dial up but I do all my legal
papers on the Mac and have to e mail papers to people and I am block
now by some huge SNAFU with AOL For years and years I have used AOL using local 
phone numbers that
is in the AOL system that the modem dials to log on But last week AOL switched 
out of ALL the west coast dial up numbers
THEY DELETED ALL OF THEM and for the entire west coast are offering these 
numbers 855-564-8026
855-564-8027 My modem (US robotics 56k x2) dials those numbers and you can hear
the fax tone and the modem TRIES to handshake and log in but
it never happens and it gives up You can dial those numbers and you'll hear the 
fax tone with your  phone I don't know what is wrong and this is causing me a 
huge problem  cause
I can NOT e mail anyone attachments of their legal documents I have called AOL 
several times and they say there is a problem but
they don't fix it I don't know if the problem is AOL or that somehow my US 
Robotics  modem
can't deal with communication parameters now that it could before This is OLD 
stuff people and probably few people are familiar with this  old
technology. The Mac is a 7300/200 and it doesn't do USB so I can't put the docs 
 on
a USB flash drive and move over to the PC and e mail them there The Mac has a 
floppy drive but the HP Vista Pavilion doesn't have a  floppy
drive so I can get the docs over to the PC that way So hey - anyone grasp what 
is going on here and have any advice for  me? AGain - I hope I am on the right 
boards with this issue Thanks for any help MIchael Smith
Palm Desert CA
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Re: Performa 637 CD-ROM replacement

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- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Morton chromati...@gmail.com

On 22 Jan, 2014, at 11:34 pm, Lee Kolb wrote:

 1,2,4, parity, sector size, terminator, and term. power.
 I'm puzzled by the first three, because I thought the max. no of SCSI devices 
 was 6

Narrow SCSI as found in old Macs can have device IDs from 0-7, where 7 is 
1+2+4, a standard 3-bit binary code.  ID 7 is usually reserved for the 
controller, which is just a device on the bus which happens to be the Mac 
itself.  So there can be 7 slave devices (0-6) plus the controller.

The internal CD-ROM in a Mac is usually ID 3, so since this is a replacement 
for that, set jumpers 1 and 2, and leave 4 open.  You'll also need to set the 
Parity jumper, to ensure that an odd number of ID jumpers are set in total.

 and I have no idea how the other four should be set

Each physical end of the SCSI bus should be terminated to prevent reflections 
of signals from causing interference.  However, this is one of the black arts 
of SCSI.  If in doubt, look more closely at how the old drive was jumpered, and 
assume that any features that are new on the replacement drive should be left 
unselected.

If the CD-ROM is on the *last* connector of the cable and there *isn't* an 
external terminator at that point (you'll be able to see it easily), then set 
the terminator jumper.

If the CD-ROM is on the *last* connector and there *is* an external terminator, 
set the terminator power jumper instead.  That'll allow the external 
terminator to work.

If the internal hard disk is on the last connector, so that the CD-ROM is *not* 
physically the last device, then leave both the terminator jumpers open.  There 
should *not* be an external terminator at that connector.
---


The Performa 637 has an IDE (PATA) hard drive. Not sure how that will enter 
into the solution. I assume the CD-ROM is on the SCSI bus. From my experience 
jumping or not jumping term pwr on these old CD-ROM's does not make any 
difference.

I do have a similar Performa in cold storage (12F is the current temp) and 
don't want to venture into the garage to check jumper settings.

Excellent explanation of SCSI basics. --glen

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Re: Dual boot a SE(/30)

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From: Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net


On Nov 13, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Scott Lawrence yor...@gmail.com wrote:

How would I go about having a second System folder on it for System 6.0.8? 
(without resorting to booting from floppy. ;) )

You just have the two folders.  When you place both a finder and system file 
in a folder, it unblesses the old blessed folder and blesses the new one.

Then just take a finder out and back in on another folder.   


I ran 6 and 7 like this from the alpha release of 7 (which was more stable 
than any MS Windows I ever used) until I switched to full time unix in 95 or 96



Also there was a utility or two that did the blessing for you, I don't recall a 
name though.

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Re: SE/30 With Stripe Patterns

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Subject: SE/30 With Stripe Patterns
 

Hi, 

I have an SE/30 with stripe patterns that will not boot.  I think it may be 
the capacitors, but I is there anything else to look for?

-Dodger


Just had the problem of alternating horizontal black and white stripes on an 
SE/30.

Thought is was the analogue board. My temporary solution for me was to remove 
the logic board remove all SIMMs and ROM and clean with alcohol (toothbrush and 
q-tips)  especially around the caps. Then clean all contacts with contact 
cleaner.  And a soft eraser (the white one) if the contacts did not look clean. 
Then I blew out the analogue board and power supply with compressed air; then 
reassemble.

Now Volia! It boots like a champ.  But yeah, the caps need to be replaced. 
--glen

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Re: Problem with external SCSI hard disk on Mac Plus

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 From: Doug McNutt dougl...@macnauchtan.com

 Working on a bunch of SE/30s that all have new capacitors installed by my 
 housekeeper who got laid off by TRW. I'm hoping to get them all running 
 system 7.5
 
 The newest version of FWB, running on OS 9.1  an 8500 ,  I can't use the 
 various tests that I would like to use. FWB complains that the boot sectors 
 must 
 be upgraded before I can access a disk with FWB's test routines.
 
 If I do the FWB update my SE/30's will not mount the disk. If I use 
 Apple's patched disk tools to install a boot sector everything is fine 
 except I can't run FWB tests.
 
 Yeah. Murphy's law comes to mind.  Any ideas? I really need to do sustained 
 read/write tests.
 

La Cie's Silverlining 5.7.x.or 5.8.x --  not the Lite, SQ or Pro 6.x versions. 
I have 5.8.2, not sure about licensing. I may still have the original floppies 
(and upgrades) that are no longer needed if you want them.

As mentioned in a previous post I also have the freeware ATTO 2.81 and ATTO 
2.8.2. Great benchmarking utilites. I don't know if they test read/write and 
will not remap bad blocks. --glen

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Re: Terminator for Syquest 44mb drive

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 From: Bob Boden bobbo...@suddenlink.net

I have a Mac SE with a dead internal hard drive. Boots fine to floppy and 
reads Syquest no problem. Want to boot from Syquest drive. Do I need both a 
pass-thru SCSI terminator at the Syquest end of the cable AND a terminator on 
the other SCSI port on the Syquest OR just the later?


If the SyQuest drive is the only device attached to the SCSI port then it just 
needs the block style 50 pin terminator attached the back of the SyQuest drive. 
The SCSI ID should be set to 1 thru 6.

If reads means the SyQuest  cart mounts, then your termination should be OK. 
Does the SyQuest disk have a bootable system installed?

Try booting without the floppy, the SE should find the bootable system on the 
external SyQuest drive. --glen

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Re: Re: mac IIcx

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 From: kelb...@verizon.net kelb...@verizon.net

Glen
you must know Davis-standard alot of my enclosures are manufactured for them
 
Ken
 
Yes, next door to my old High School. I don't remember if Davis-Standard was 
there when I was student or they built the facility a few years later. That was 
many decades ago.

Feel free to contact me off list if you need any Mac II series parts I may 
have. I'm just a short drive down I-95 or Rte1 if you take then scenic route. 
Great to see your IIcx in production. Take care -- glen

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Re: mac IIcx

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 From: kelb...@verizon.net kelb...@verizon.net

I would like to thank everyone for the help in finding a couple mac IIcx's and 
some back up hardware
 
If you would like to see what the mac IIcx is helping to produce take a look 
at our website   www.gordonfab.com
 
Kool,
Did not know you are based in Charlestown. I grew up next door across the 
border from Westerly in CT. I still live nearby a few more miles West. I have 
many vintage Mac parts but none are from a llcx --glen

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Re: Mac SE SCSI

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_

 From: Jake jake.tes...@gmail.com
 
After the previous suggestion, I went and bought three farallon
phonenet adapters. Thanks! Can't wait to network!

Does anybody have any links to hook the phonenet system up to an
actual ethernet (~) Internet connection? Or, does nobody have a way of
getting either a PowerBook 1400cs or a Mac SE in the internet?

The Mac SE has a SE-PDS slot. (processor direct slot), and an ethernet
card would probably fit there. Only issue is that unlike buses, PDS is
limited to specific processors, so a Mac SE would only be compatible
with SE-specific cards. I'm not even sure that the PB1400cs has
expansion, then again, I could be completely wrong.
Anybody have any suggestions or links?

-Jake


Perhaps:
http://www.atpm.com/network/ formerly  threemacs.com will be a good link for 
networking/internet?

As
 you stated the SE has a specific PDS (96 pin I think) and given the 
space limitations of the SE the card has is 90 degree angle to the plug.
 I think the Mac IIsi uses the same card but my memory may not be 
correct.

There are also SCSI to ethernet adapters out there somewhere. --glen

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Re: Mac SE SCSI

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 From: Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com

 --- On Sat, 11/19/11, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 The SE/30 and IIsi share the same PDS. Most cards will interchange between 
 those 
 two, though some may have problems with the higher PDS bus speed of the IIsi.
 
 The same *connector* was used in the IIci, IIvi and IIvx and Performa 600 but 
 the electrical connections are different so you can't directly plug a IIsi 
 or SE/30 card into the IIci type slot or vice-versa.
 
 Life with ye-olde-macs would be quite a bit simpler if the IIci etc. had used 
 the SE/30 PDS. There wouldn't be the need for adapters.
 
Thanks for the correction. The SE/30 and IIsi PDS slot was larger (120 pins 
come to mind) than the SE PDS slot. --glen

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Re: Mac SE SCSI

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From: Jake Tesler jake.tes...@gmail.com

How can I upgrade the floppy controller?

At one point Apple provided a upgrade kit for the 800k SE which included a 1.4 
MB floppy SuperDrive two ROMS (High ROM (342–
0701 and Low ROM (342–0702) and a SWIM chip(344–0062). The logic board is 
stenciled with High ROM, Low ROM and SWIM. These are the three large chips in 
the center of the board. The notch at one end of the SWIM chip and each ROM 
chip must face toward the RAM SIMMs.

It will most likely be difficult to find this kit today. It maybe easier to 
find a SE FDHD motherboard that supports the 1.4 MB floppy and replace the 800k 
motherboard. Of course this assume your SE is not already an SE FDHD.

Now the memory gets fuzzy but I think the stock FDHD had the MacintoshSE FDHD 
marking in the front of the case. --But even if the case markings say 
Macintosh SE someone may have done the upgrade or swapped the logic board for 
a SE FDHD.

If the ROMS  read 342-0352-A and 342-0353-A and the SWIM read 344-0043A you 
have the 800k floppy logicboard.



On Nov 4, 2011, at 3:10 PM, dale-gmail motod...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi Jake;
 
 one thing , unless you have upgraded the floppy controller on the SE,
 it only writes/reads 800k floppies, so any floppy you write/make on
 the floppies are 800k in size..

The poster may have a stock Mac SE FDHD with stock 1.4 MB floppy?? --glen

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Re: Mac SE SCSI

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 From: Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com

 
 --- On Fri, 11/4/11, Jake Tesler jake.tes...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How can I upgrade the floppy controller?
 
 Replace the IWM (Integrated Woz Machine) chip with a SWIM (Super Woz 
 Integrated 
 Machine) chip and replace the original ROM chips with the ones containing 
 updated firmware for the SWIM chip.
 
 Good luck finding either.
 
 ROM and SWIM upgrades were also made for the Mac II to add 1.44M floppy drive 
 support and also to correct a bug which limited the size of SIMMs usable in 
 Bank 
 A. I don't know if the SWIM chip for the SE and Mac II are the same. The 
 ROMs are not.
 

The SE's IWM/SWIM  and the Mac II IWM/SWIM are not of the same physical size. 
The SE is approx 1/2 x 1 3/8 inches. The Mac II is approx 1/2 inch square.

I just happen to have these two logic boards displayed in my living room as 
art -- AFAIK they may still work. --glen

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Re: Who will fix My Radius 21 greyscale monitor

[glen]

From: bigcl...@aol.com bigcl...@aol.com
Subject: Who will fixMy Radius 21 greyscale monitor


My Radius 21 greyscale monitor (as I wrote earlier) has a vertical 
flicker.
 
I have removed it and put my OTHER Radius 21 greyscale that works fine in 
its place
 
Now I want to find someone to fix the flickering monitor.
 
 
I did some googling searching on Radius including reading in 
Wikipedia
 
I got the names of some head honchoes and tried track them down with no 
success
 
How can I find the original Radius people and follow a path to someone who 
knows the
monitor and can get into it and replace whatever part has gone bad causing 
the flicker
 
As I said, after about an hour it settles down and works - but such along 
wit
 
surely someone who has training and knowedge/experience will know exactly 
what circuity is doing this?
 
Anyone know?

 

Well, maybe its time for a new(er) monitor?

I recently had a monitor displaying the same flickering you mention. When it 
first started it flickering it took only a few minutes to become stable. 
Eventually it took an hour to stabilize. I would scheduled monitor wake up a 
hour before the work day started just to get the monitor stable when I needed 
it. Finally it failed totally.

The cost of finding a shop to fix an old Radius CRT monitor (provided the parts 
are still available) would cost more than just getting a new one. If you can 
not find a shop within driving distance the just the cost of shipping to and 
fro would equal the cost of a new monitor.

As I recall from previous posts your Radius was connected to a Mac 7300. I see 
two alternatives.

1) Get yourself a new (or used) LCD and if necessary a video card if needed to 
support it. AND your electric bill will be less.

2) Subscribe to your local Freecycle list and pick up another CRT for free, I 
recently picked up a 21 Sony to replace a failed Apple. Most likely it won't 
be a radius but it will give you a back up for when your other Radius fails.

I have three or four failed CRT's in my garage waiting for the transfer station 
(dump). I also have 2 or three spares I gained from freecyle and hope never 
need to use them. LCD's are the way to go if you have a PCI or later Mac.

Good luck --glen

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Re: Need to write 800k floppy disks for my Macintosh

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- Original Message 
 From: Bob Jones doctor.wh...@gmail.com
h
 
 If I got an older Macintosh from the 1990's with a PowerPC processor,
 would  it write 800k disks properly?
 


Yes, my 7500 (OS 9.1) just wrote I test file to an 800 KB floppy. My 6100 (OS 
8.1) can format 800 KB floppies.
Of course the floppy drive in any of these old Mac's must be working. --glen

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Re: MAC II access - Help Please!

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Floppies can be problematic since the original Mac ll used 800k floppies and 
external USB's floppies which can plug into you iMac USB port generally 
recognize only 1.4 MB floppies.

Perhaps I better solution is to purchase a NuBus ethernet card. Then you can 
connect the Mac II directly to the iMac with an a crossover cable or 
alternately 
use a hub or switch with standard cables.
These cards were available for about $10 on the SWAP list or eBay. a few years 
ago. The Mac II has many expansion NuBus slots.

I'm assuming the Mac II boots and can connect. Also be aware some old Mac files 
may not transfer to a Dell PC without losing thier Resource Fork rendering some 
non generic files useless.

Good luck --glen




- Original Message 
 From: javelinman74 javelinma...@hotmail.com
 To: Vintage Macs vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 1:47:52 PM
 Subject: Re: MAC II access - Help Please!
 
 The iMac G3 doesn't have floppies available.
 
 I do have a tape drive,  which the files are on, but then SCSI and iMac
 and Dell are  USB's
 
 Thought, am I able to remove the HD from the MacII and install it  in
 the G3?  MacII is 7.5.3 and I believe that the iMac is sys 09,  but
 gotta come up with a USB keyboard to get the iMac going too.
 
 I  sure appreciate the ideas... Something will lead to unlocking  my
 dilemma.
 
 On May 21, 8:04 pm, javelinman74 javelinma...@hotmail.com  wrote:
  Just got a Mac II set up w/LOTS of graphics and business  opportunity.
  Also have an iMac that is beefed a bit
  and a Dell  Inspiron 1100
 
  Problem, is I cannot access the files on the MacII  as the HP printer
  that came with it is not the one on the system, so I  have no drivers
  for it.  The MacII is not set up for  internet.
 
  I either want to pransfer the HD files to the iMac or  my Dell.
 
  Of course the MacII is SCSI, the iMac is usb as is the  Dell.
  I have network(?) wiring for the HP printer and a Sony Dye  Sub
  printer, but neither have drivers in the MacII.
 
   MacII is also boarderline ram to run barely one program at  atime.
 
  I did buy today an adapter for connecting the IDE drives  thru to an
  USB, but cannot get the Dell to read the drives connecting  directly.
  In trying to hook to the iMac I find that the keyboard needed  for the
  iMac is USB? and the MacII is serial?!?!
 
  I was  told to get an extranal IDE box, and this adapter does the same
  thing,  just not a perminate fix.  I just want to get access to the HD
  files, so  I can start making things.
 
  Any help and direction will be  GREATLY appreciated!!!
  Richard
  javelinma...@hotmail.com
 
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Re: MAC II access - Help Please!

[glen]

I find  that the keyboard needed for the

 iMac is USB? and the MacII is  serial?!?!

No the Mac II keyboard is ADB (Apple Desktop Bus) -- propriety, readily 
available fairly cheap or for free in many dumpsters :)
-- glen

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AppleDesign Powered Speakers volume issue

[Glen Waterman]

I have a pair of these speakers (M6082) that I use for good stereo
sound with an iBook clamshell. I got them for free (a local Salvation
Army was about to throw them out!), so I can't say I know much about
their operational history, but I've noticed an issue with them. Most
of the time, they work wonderfully, but if the volume of the music is
very quiet when compared to the rest of a track (say, the first few
notes of the slide guitar solo in Zeppelin's 'What Is and What Should
Never Be' for example), the sound will cut out completely. It's not a
big deal, but it does kinda kill the mood when there's supposed to be
a soft part and it just suddenly disappears until the song gets louder
again. Increasing the volume usually will do the trick (as the little
OS X volume pop is usually loud enough for it), but at night when
others are sleeping, that's not an option.

Is this a known design/performance issue with these types of speakers,
or is it just mine? I can't complain a bit about their cost-
effectiveness, but I figured someone here might be able to satiate my
curiosity. Thanks in advance.

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Using Grackle for tweeting from OS 8.6, system 7

[Glen Waterman]

I'm trying to use a program called Grackle to tweet from my Power
Macintosh 7100 running 8.6, and eventually I'd like to use it on my LC
III running 7.1. The program appears to be able to run on System 6,
but I'd rather not bother trying to get my Plus hooked up to the
network. I've got the PM hooked up through ethernet (Classilla works
for browsing, so I know internet connection works), so I figured to
start with this machine to tweet, then see if I could get the LC
working.

I'm stuck on the Power Macintosh though. When I try to tweet, it
returns an error of '401 unauthorized'. Has anybody else used this
program? I wasn't able to find much troubleshooting info with a quick
Google search...

Also, I haven't tried it yet, but will I need particular drivers to
get the LC III online? I'm not sure how to go about this in system 7.
I've got an Asante MacCon-i PDS ethernet card, but I have no driver
disks or anything (bought it on eBay). I found what appears to be the
drivers on Asante's site, but they're for OS 8.x or 9.x only
(according to the title).

TIA.

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Re: What is a Mac formated Komag 128 Rewritable disk?

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 6:32:58 AM
 Subject: Re: What is a Mac formated Komag 128 Rewritable disk?
 
 --- On Mon, 2/7/11, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
   I have received a request to transfer data from a Komag 128 MB
   rewritable disk to a CD.
  
  After a Google search I found little  info but suspect the
  disk falls into the magneto-optical category. What  drive is required to
  do read this disk?
  
  Here is a  description  from the requester:
  I do know that they were used on a Mac  system [predates 1997]. They're
  almost exactly  the size of two stacked  3.5 floppy diskettes,
  with the write protect notch in the same position.  There are two of them  
labelled Komag 128 MB rewritable.
  
   Any info appreciated, thanks -- glen
 
 You need a 3.5 Magneto Optical  drive. Mostly they're SCSI so you need a 
Macintosh with SCSI to connect it to.  Given that the disks are circa 1997 
you'll want OS 8.1 or 9.x.x on that  Mac.
 
 Forget eBay for getting a drive. Since Fujitsu quit the MO market,  sellers 
have been starting MO drives on there at stupid high prices, but disks  can 
still be picked up cheap. A 640 meg drive would be a good one to get,  
especially with LIMDOW (Light Intensity Modulation Direct OverWrite), so you 
can  
use it to read and write any 3.5 MO disk 640 meg or smaller. (LIMDOW makes  
writes 2x faster, but only on LIMDOW capable disks.)
 
 I just searched  eBay, looks like all the drives on there are the higher 
capacity 1+ gig types. I  dunno about the compatibility of those with lower 
capacity disks, looks like  most of the ones on there are 5.25
 
 The disks can also be read with a PC  running a Mac emulator like Basilisk II 
or Sheep Shaver, also with a SCSI card  like an Adaptec 2940. Those cards are 
cheaper than dirt on eBay, even the ones  with Mac compatible BIOS.
 
 Most of the smaller capacity MO drives use  narrow, Single Ended SCSI so 
 you'd 
want a SCSI card with the 50 pin connector.  Don't get a differential or LVD 
(Low Voltage Differential) SCSI card for this.  Those are mainly for use with 
SCSI drives that have the SCA80  connector.
 
 I have a couple of MO drives, a 320 meg and a 640 meg, but I'm  not ready to 
part with them. Still got a bunch of old Mac stuff to get off some  disks, 
same 
story with a stack of Zip 100 disks I keep not getting around to  doing same 
with.
 
 If my 128 meg MO drive hadn't up and died I'd give it to  you for the 
 shipping 
cost. (I got  the 640 meg when the 128 meg  quit.)

Thanks for the information. I have plenty of old Macs either with native SCSI 
or 
a SCSI card installed. I just need to purchase a MO drive (provided the data on 
the disks is of value that warrants that hassle and expense). --glen


  

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What is a Mac formated Komag 128 Rewritable disk?

[glen]

I have received a request to transfer data from a Komag 128 MB rewritable disk 
to a CD.

After a Google search I found little info but suspect the disk falls into the 
magneto-optical category. What drive is required to do read this disk?

Here is a description  from the requester:
I do know that they were used on a Mac system [predates 1997]. They're almost 
exactly  the size of two stacked 3.5 floppy diskettes, with the write protect  
notch in the same position. There are two of them labelled Komag 128 MB 
rewritable.

Any info appreciated, thanks -- glen


  

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Re: Seeking Hard Drive Sled for 6100 Series PowerMac

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: iainnitro jmikeneed...@gmail.com
 To: Vintage Macs vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 3:58:07 PM
 Subject: Re: Seeking Hard Drive Sled for 6100 Series PowerMac
 
 I am still looking for this if anyone has one :-)


If no one else has replied I do have a spare or two from 6100's. It is the same 
sled used in the 7300, 7500, 7600 and probably many more models. A WTB post to 
the SWAP should produce more sellers.

Contact me offlist if you want one of the ones I have. I still have one 6100 in 
use in a business environment; a quite remarkable machine. --glen


 
 On Jan 2, 8:10 am,  iainnitro jmikeneed...@gmail.com  wrote:
  Greetings all:
 
  I need to find the plastic hard  drive sled for my Performa 6115CD.  I
  had one, but apparently it is the  wrong one (from a 68K mac) and goes
  in differently.
 
  I am  not sure whether or not these are the same in the 7300, 7500,8500
  -- but  it looks like it goes in from the front in the same way as
  those  models.
 
  If you have one, I am willing to pay a little ($5) plus  shipping for
  the part.  Please let me know if you have  one.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mike
 


  

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Re: Seeking Hard Drive Sled for 6100 Series PowerMac

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 5:11:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Seeking Hard Drive Sled for 6100 Series PowerMac
 
 Depending on which sled it is I *might* have some. I have a whole pile of  
7500/7200/G3 desktop style sleds. I'm not sure which machines used the same  
sled, but I think quite a few did. I can take some photos and send them if you 
 
want to see what they look like.
 
 
  -Elliott
 

The part number from the sled I just pulled from a 6100 is 815-0446. And I just 
checked a 7500 that has the same part number.

The 8500/8600 have two sleds with a lower sled part number 851-1688 that is a 
little different from 815-0446 sled. This lower sled can also be used in the 
7500/7600 series lower empty bay although the upper bay sled (815-0446) can 
also 
be used in the lower bay, it just won't click into place. Perhaps the 
815-1688 
can also be used in the 6100 although I have not checked this. --glen


  

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Re: Starmax 4000

[glen]

From: Britt Dodd brittman...@gmail.com
To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 12:57:12 PM
Subject: Re: Starmax 4000

Both used IDE hard drives, which I am very much a fan of vs SCSI ones.

I love my 6100, but something happened to its parts and I cant seem to locate 
them.

-- 
What parts? I have a couple 6100 parts machines. Not looking for any $$. Surely 
others on list may have the parts you need. --glen


  

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Re: Moving files for System 6 from downloads to Macintosh Plus

[Glen Waterman]

Let me start by asking your forgiveness for my rambling, but here's
how this is going:

A note on equipment: The 7100/66 is running OS 8.0. I didn't think to
mention on my original post, but I do have a SCSI hard drive I could
use to (theoretically) go from 7100-LCIII as well. I've tried hooking
the HD to the Plus before, but there were several issues (HD is 3 GB,
which I think might be too much for System 6 to see, and I know
there's interleave issues as well.)

Anyway, I downloaded a program today named 'Burn', and was able to
make myself an HFS standard disk. The 7100 reads the disc with no
problems (which, btw, I was only able to burn at 4x; 1 or 2x wasn't
even an option.) However, upon insertion of a floppy to write files to
(the lone 2DD disk I could find laying around), it asked for the
initialization, and I named it and let it work its magic. However,
after a minute or so, it returned a message saying initialization
failed, with no further explanation.

I popped the floppy into the Mac Plus, and used that to initialize it
as a double sided disk. It worked fine, I was able to name the disk
(even though I had no files to put on it.) I put it back in the 7100,
which for some reason only wanted to initialize it again. I'm not sure
if there's some difference in the initialization methods between
System 6 and OS 8, but I didn't give up just yet.

I dug out the SCSI hard drive, hooked it all up while the 7100 was
off, turned it on w/ a SCSI ID of 3, and booted the 7100. Since taking
that step, the 7100 hasn't been the same. The first time, it booted
slowly, then was unresponsive once it got to the desktop. The mouse
pointer sat in the top corner of the screen just blinking between
pointer and the wait-a-second-icon every few seconds. I ended up using
the power button on the back of the machine to restart it, with the
SCSI HD off, and didn't turn the HD back on, but the machine still
reacted the same way on the second boot.

I figured it might be having trouble with the internal hard drive (had
I selected the same SCSI ID somehow? I thought the internal was
'0'...), so I restarted while holding 'd', and it appeared to boot to
the desktop correctly, albeit slowly. The problem is, now that it's
booted to the desktop with all the normal icons, it's still
unresponsive. A floppy insertion provokes no reaction, the HD doesn't
show up if I turn it on, the CD tray won't eject. If I push the power
button on the keyboard, a dialogue box shows up for a fraction of a
second with a 'shut down' button visible, but promptly disappears. I'm
out of ideas for the 7100.

Now, I know some posters have mentioned the possibility of AppleTalk.
I'll admit, the extent of my knowledge is very limited in this area.
I've fiddled with the setting in Chooser in system 6, but never
actually used it. I'm open to the idea, but (I believe) restricted by
my (lack of) equipment. I have one ADB keyboard and one ADB mouse. If
what I've seen is correct, they are not hot swappable (at least, not
safely.) I assume it'd be pretty easy to link the LC III with the
7100, but I only can run one at once with my peripherals. I tried
setting up the Macintosh Plus with the 7100 for AppleTalk, but got
nowhere. I'm not sure if you have to have the same OS or have to tweak
settings in 8 to work with 6 or something.

Regrettably, I do not have the adapter for the ethernet on the
7100/66. I do have a U.S. Robotics modem, but have little/no
experience with this as well. Should I expect to be able to use a
phone cord/ethernet adapter to hook into my modern router for internet/
networking, or are the old boxes expecting a dial tone and nothing
else? I don't want to be paying twice for internet service every month
to get high speed and dial-up... but I digress.

I suppose the question is, is there a way to get AppleTalk working
productively between the Plus and 7100? Is there any sort of SCSI
target mode or something to make the internal HD of the 7100 (which I
could theoretically copy the files onto if I got the 7100 working
again) visible to the Plus? How should I go about troubleshooting the
7100? I don't have any OS 8 or 9 install discs, and the only dual boot
machine I own is a lime iBook clamshell (and no floppy drive for it).
Did I do anything particularly wrong in trying to hook up the SCSI HD
with the 7100? I thought only SCSI ID's 0,1, and 2 would be used for
the HD, floppy, and CD ROM drive, but 3,4,5, and 6 didn't work
either.

I appreciate all assistance. Ever since discovering emacs in terminal,
I've wanted to play Pong and the like on my old Macs, and it's good to
be getting close :)

Glen

On Nov 11, 11:36 am, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since none of the info given to you so far has been very helpful, I thought 
 I'd chime in as well.

 First off, older CD-ROM drives have trouble reading burned disks. The problem 
 comes from the way the discs are made; Commercial disks actually have pits 
 stamped into them, where as CD-R's have

Moving files for System 6 from downloads to Macintosh Plus

[Glen Waterman]

I've got several old Macintosh machines that I'm not incredibly
familiar with (compared to more modern Macs). My goal recently has
been to get lots of software downloaded for use on my Macintosh Plus
and Macintosh SE, as I have next to nothing useful for these but would
love to see them used. I've got lots of files to transfer, but I'm
having trouble doing so.

My plan was to download (mostly from System 6 heaven) the desired
files with my eMac, and once everything was all together in a folder,
burn it to a CD. I then could use my Power Macintosh 7100/66 to
transfer the files from the CD to floppies, as I don't have any floppy
drives on any internet connected Macintoshes (thank God for the
7100 :) ). Once on floppy disks, I could put them on my SE or Plus.

A few details: my eMac is 10.5 Leo., the Power Macintosh is running OS
8, and I do have a boot floppy for System 6 for the Plus/SE (the SE is
dual floppy, no HD). I do have an LC III running System 7.1 as well if
that would be helpful to me at all.

Now, I've downloaded, burnt, fired up the 7100/66, and popped the CD
in, expecting to copy everything over in small chunks... but it's a no
go. The system just scoffs and says 'The disc was unreadable, do you
want to initialize?' which isn't feasible or helpful with a CD. The
disc I used is a 700 MB CD-R that was burned at 4x (and all files
appear when CD is in the eMac). The CD drive in the 7100/66 has worked
to play audio CDs, so I don't believe it's an issue w/ the drive...

Any ideas of what's holding me up? Or do you see any glaring flaws in
the plan to get the files on the old computers? I've got mostly 2HD
floppies at my disposal, but I seem to remember seeing something that
the Plus can't handle that density... am I right? Will it read a 2DD?
I think the SE should be ok with either... anyway, thanks in advance
for any tips or advice.

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External SCSI HD with Macintosh SE

[Glen Waterman]

I just got a keyboard/mouse for my recently acquired Macintosh SE,
which is the dual floppy drive version. It's kinda handy to copy files
from floppy to floppy, but I'd like to be able to boot from a HD.
Right now I have system 6 running, and I have an 'Apple External Hard
Drive' that I hope to be able to use with at least my SE, and if I'm
lucky the Plus as well. The model number on the HD is M2115. I don't
know the drive's capacity, but from a bit of googling I think it's in
the neighborhood of 850 mb to 1.05 gb.

My problem is that I can't seem to get it to work with the SE. I have
(what I believe to be) the SCSI ID selector set to 0 (I've tried it on
'4' as well), and it's hooked up to the machine before booting up. At
bootup, a window comes up to the right of the happy mac that mentions
Silverlining v5.7 and shows the SCSI ID that I have selected. Once
booting is complete, however, the HD isn't shown on the desktop, and
after a few seconds, a message pops up saying that the drive couldn't
be reliably used and had been locked to prevent loss. When I close
this window, the system freezes and requires reboot.

Does anyone have more information about this hard drive? I'm not sure
why it wouldn't work... I've heard about interlace issues with the
Plus, but I can't find anything obviously wrong in wanting to use it
on an SE. Should I assume it's a hard drive problem? It doesn't sound
bad, and I know it's at least communicating somewhat with the computer
when the Silverlining window comes up. Am I supposed to use a
particular SCSI ID? Any ideas or help is appreciated.

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Re: IIci

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Stuart Kurtzer stuart.kurt...@gmail.com
i
 
 Thanks for the ci's. They are wonderful, keep that part of the
 business going  on system 6.7!  This is a great discussion and kudos to
 Glen.  The  ci's arrived and work perfectly.
 
Your welcome, glad I could help --glen



  

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how can i eject floppies without a mouse/kb from my Mac SE?

[Glen Waterman]

I just bought a Macintosh SE a few days ago (for an exorbitant
$1 :D ), and in my excited haste to try it out, I popped my System 6
floppy (normally used with my Mac Plus) in and watched it boot right
up. However, the SE uses an ADB keyboard and mouse, which I do not
currently own, as the Plus uses its own connectors. I will be looking
for ADB equipment soon anyway (not only for the SE, but my LC III and
PowerMac 7100 as well), but in the meantime... how can I get my floppy
back out? Is there a way to eject it without tearing everything open?
If it's too dangerous, I could just wait until I obtain a k/b and
mouse I suppose...

I'm gonna guess the answer is no to this idea, but I have a serial
cable and SCSI cable as well. Is there any way I could hook up my Plus
through AppleTalk or something (which I'm very unfamiliar with) to be
able to send commands (like 'eject that floppy') to the SE? I don't
have a boot floppy for the Plus while it's stuck in the SE though, so
I'm not too optimistic.

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Re: IIci

[glen]

- Original Message 

 From: Stuart Kurtzer stuart.kurt...@gmail.com

 Just joined and need a IIci or motherboard for one.  Help!  Thanks,  Stu
 
I have a couple of llci's without power supplies or HDD's you can have them for 
the cost of shipping from zip code 06430. Contact me off list. --glen



  

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Re: OS 8 System issues

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Scott Holder sc...@iamscott.net

 
 On 7/20/2010 2:57 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
  Well, first thing is to run  8.1 on a IIfx there has to be some type of 
  hack, 
because normally 8.1 will only  run on a 68040 or Power PC CPU.
  
  You'll need to find out which  hack was used to make 8.1 run on your IIfx 
then fix it so it'll work  again.
  
  One hack is called Wish I Were. It changes the gestalt  ID to fool the OS 
installer into working. It's also useful for some applications  that will run 
on 
a 68030 but require a 68040.

 The easiest/best way is probably using the old Born Again software  from 
Brochner Software. I have no idea if the author is still around to accept a  
payment or not, technically it was shareware and not freeware. I used it  
successfully on a few things back in the day, although I'm not sure I have any 
 
of them left these  days.
 
 http://lowendmac.com/tech/bornagain.html
 
 I found a 1.0  download at the garden but there was a 1.1 version available 
 at 
one  point.
 
 http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/born-again
 
 Wish I Were was  a little trickier because you still had to fool the system 
 for 
initial startup  before it loaded. If you tried to use WIW alone you'd still 
get 
the standard  This startup disk cannot be used to start this computer-type 
warning. With  some Resedit hacks it worked nicely though. I mainly used it to 
get Soft PC  Classic running on some non-Mac Classic/LC systems.
---

The Resedit hack is found here at Gamba's site for any wanting to try it -- 
it's 
great his site is still up.

http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/os8_68030.html

This apparently applies to any of the following Mac's:
 Macintosh IIci, IIfx, IIsi, IIvi, IIvx, LC III, LC520, 550, 560;  Performa 
275, 
450, 460-467, 600; Color Classic II; PowerBook 150, 160, 165, 165c, 180, 180c; 
PowerBook  Duo 210, 230, 250, 270c

I  installed System 8.1 on a SE/30 for use as an iTunes server for use with 
more 
modern networked Mac's with OS 8.6 thru 10.3.9 at that time. The SE/30 had no 
problems serving tunes to these Macs but was incredibly slow for anything else. 
The iTunes library was installed on a old  Seagate 9 GB full height drive  that 
sounded like a small turbine when starting up. The drive  failed a few years 
and  I moved the server to  more modern Mac.

I do have an IIfx in the wings with 80 MB or so of RAM and would love to try OS 
8.1 on it if I ever get the time. --glen


  

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LC III monitor compatibility

[Glen Waterman]

I recently bought a used LC III, but it was the machine only. I have
no monitor for it, but I hear the boot chime when it's powered on, so
I'm assuming it works fine. My question is, since the video out is 15
pin (8/7), can I just get an adapter from that to VGA (5/5/5) and use
an old (non-Apple) CRT monitor? Should I expect the refresh rate to be
60 Hz, or does the LC use strange refresh rates (I've had trouble w/
eMacs and external monitors). I appreciate the help.

Glen

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Macintosh Plus works, but doesn't do much

[Glen Waterman]

I recently purchased a Macintosh Plus on eBay, and I love it. My
problem is, I didn't grow up with these systems, and I've had a hard
time finding anything online that's particularly useful in explaining
how to use the Plus. I'm somewhat familiar with OS 9, and quite
familiar with OSX, but these are entirely different creatures. I've
got 2 floppy disks with the OS on them, among other things (Pac Man
shows up on one, but won't play correctly, and results in a request to
restart the computer when I try to start it... extension problem?)
It's OS 6.0.5 on the disks. From my understanding, there is no hard
drive, so I have to boot from the floppy disk each time, right? I do
have an Apple SCSI hard drive, model M2115, but I haven't ever had a
machine with which to check it's functionality (although it makes
noise when plugged in and turned on). Can I use that on this machine?
One thing I don't understand: if I do have to boot from the floppy,
how do I add programs that aren't on the floppies already? I think
what I need is a crash course in OS 6 and the Macintosh Plus. I
realize this is a lot to ask anyone to post just for me, but instead
I'd appreciate recommendations of good sites or whatever would be the
best way to learn. I'd love to get a printer and be able to at least
perform some basic tasks with the machine, as anything less seems like
a waste of working components. Thanks :)

Glen

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Re: IIfx woes

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: J. Alexander Jacocks jjaco...@gmail.com

 
  I have never had an issue with IIfx terminators.
 
  Even unterminated buses have, and do work for me.
 
  Just my luck, I guess.
 
 Why don't we solve this problem permanently?  Terminators are
 electrically simple, and it should be very easy to reverse-engineer
 the IIfx terminator with a multi-meter.
 

Probably not necessary for most use.

When using my IIfx (a Mac II with a IIfx logicboard  transplant) many years ago 
for graphic design applications, I never had any termination problems. The 
termination provided by the external peripherals (HD's, SyQuest Drives, etc) 
and/the usual gray block terminator was adequate.

I did fire the IIfx up again --- mostly for  fun within the past year and still 
no termination problems with various external drives connected. --glen



  

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Re: Bus Error on Boot - Macintosh SE/30

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Caleb Cupples calebcupplessocial...@gmail.com
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 10:17:59 AM
 Subject: Bus Error on Boot - Macintosh SE/30
 
 Dear Listers,
 
 I have an SE/30 that I've recently upgraded the hard drive in, and
 installed 7.5.5 on, but I keep getting a bus error at boot, whenever
 I don't boot with the extensions off. Does anyone have any
 suggestions, because I've been wanting to get it online with the
 Asante ethernet card that's in it.
 
 Anyway, if anyone has any ideas on how to fix this, I would be grateful.
 

Thinking it may be 24 bit vs 32 bit addressing issue. You may have old some  
apps intalled  that requsire the 24 bit mode???

Here are some links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MODE32

http://www.lowendmac.com/daystar/pages/dsd_products/support/

http://lowendmac.com/trouble/32bit.shtml

Wish I was at work to check out MacOS 7.5.5 there. I think you can go into the 
Memory Control Panel and switch from 32 bit to 24 bit addressing. With 
extensions off you likely will have to access it in the System-Control Panel 
folder directly but I guessing.

You may need to install MODE32 7.5 iif you wants to address more than 8 MB of 
RAM --be sure to install version 7.5 as earlier are said to cause problems.

Just my WAG. I do remember having somewhat similar problems years ago when I 
upgraded my  Mac II and SE/30 but my brain is more like oatmeal today :) Good 
Luck ---glen


  

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Re: Macintosh SE Hard Drive

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: dzeid...@mofo.com dzeid...@mofo.com
 To: Vintage Macs vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 2:48:10 PM
 Subject: Macintosh SE Hard Drive
 
 Hi
 I am trying to find out any SE used either of the below drives:
 
 PRAIRIETEK 220A 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT IDE AT DISK DRIVE
 PRAIRIETEK 220S 20MB 2.5 inch 1/3HT SCSI SE DISK DRIVE
 

Certainly not in any stock configuration ...but there are many modders out 
there that may have done it or know how to do it.

Perhaps a better question to ask is it possible to use those drives and how to? 
--glen



  

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Re: Dual boot system 6 and 7

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: PM7500 jburke...@comcast.net

 A IIfx will run System 6 (Boy will it ever run System 6), but their
 rarity and high price does not make them a very good value for someone
 looking to run System 6 software unless they already happen to have
 one. The IIci was also a very fast System 6 machine, is more easily
 obtained, cheaper, the memory upgrades are cheaper and easier to get,
 isn't as fussy about handling devices as the IIfx and has built in
 video where you need a Nubus card in a IIfx. There are also upgrades
 out there to speed up the IIci to bring it closer to IIfx speeds
 although those are hard to get and probably not going to be cheap. I
 saw a complete IIci with 33mhz 030 upgrade recently for almost $400,
 but a complete IIfx with fully upgraded RAM and an accelerated video
 card would probably go for around twice that.
 

Are those sale prices for the IIci real!! I have no reason to doubt you, I'm 
just in awe.

I still use a IIci with a 50MHz upgrade every work day as an employee time 
clock.

And I have a IIfx in storage with 80 MB of RAM with accelerated video. Those 
kind of sale prices would move my retirement to at least a month earlier :-). 
Ooh, and that does not count my SE/30 running OS 8 with an IIfx ROM and my 
other SE. And I can put together a Mac II with an accelerated CPU chip.

Holly molly Is the collectibles market for these classics really that high, 
considering the recession and the state of the economy?

A little extra income would help with the heating bills :-) ---glen


  
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Re: Freezing Macintosh SE

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Alex a.kra...@mac.com

 Is it possible, that these errors are caused by either the RAM upgrade
 I performed or the hot hard drive? I know that the hard drive gets
 quite hot. Before I was upgrading the RAM everything was well...


RAM is the prime suspect. Go back to the old RAM and see if that fixes the 
problem.

The HDD could also be the problem but I would  check the RAM first --glen



  

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Re: Mac Portable Problems

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Susan Platter susan.plat...@zen.co.uk
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:19:16 PM
 Subject: Re: Mac Portable Problems
 
 
 What setting do you use to stop the hot dry cycle from going through?
 Regards
 Susan

Suppose it depends on the make and model.

I just let the dishwasher go thru all the wash cycles and when it hits the dry 
cycle I rotate the knob to off.  Or I could just open the door which will also 
turn it off.

I'm no expert on dishwashers, just started using one about a month ago while 
cleaning out an estate of a close family member.  --glen


  

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Re: External SCSI Hard Drives

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: spokaneval...@juno.com spokaneval...@juno.com

 
 
 OK sorry if this is a stupid question. I have some old mac machines in my 
 garage  but am not a mac person per say. I also have some external hard 
 drives I 
 would like to be able to test and sell on cl or ebay.
 Can someone tell me how to test them I know they need to be connected to a 
 mac 
 machine then there are keyboard commands to make the machine boot or mount 
 the 
 hard drive. Any help would be appreciated. And what machine,classic,color 
 classic etc would be best for testing them.
 


Well, you need to have a bootable Mac with an external SCSI port. This includes 
most if not all Vintage 68K Mac's and all PowerMac's thru the beige G3 and 
beyond if it has a SCSI card. Then you will need the appropriate SCSI cable to 
connect the drive.

If the drive is properly formated it should mount without any special key 
strokes. If it does not mount go to HD SC Setup, Drive Setup or Disk Utilites 
depending on what Mac OS you are using and see if the external is recognized. 
If no joy, report back. --glen



  

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Re: SyQuest EZ drive 135

[glen]

From: Lee Tucker ltuc...@hiwaay.net

Hi,
Anybody have an idea where I can find the utilites/driver for my Powerbook 
145 or PB1400 for an EZ Drive 135.  I got it free with several cartridges so 
thought I’d see if I could get it working.  Googled and looked on some of the 
“old driver sites” but the links to this seem to be dead.  
Thanks 


The the most current and last SyQuest driver is SyQuest Utilities 4.0.1.

The System requirements for it states:  ... fully compatible with System 7.0 
and above running on 68020 and PowerPC Macintosh computers.

Prior to SyQuest Utilities older SyQuest drives like 44, 88, 200 MB and others 
shipped with various versions Silverlining Lite. I have copies of both drivers 
if you need them.

I still use SyQuest Utilities 4.0.1 for the EZ 130  230 and the old 5 1/4- 
200 MB drives with Systems 7.5.5 thru 9.2.2.

The older SyQuest drives seem to last forever, too bad SyQuest had such serious 
problems with their larger capacity drives like the 1 GB SparQ and 1.5 GB 
SyJet.  ---glen


  

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Re: SyQuest EZ drive 135

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com

 
 Boot with a Mac formatted disk in the drive and it should work without a 
 special 
 driver extension. I did that with 44 and 88 meg Syquest drives.
 
That should work.

Also seem to recall in the in System 7.5 and 7.6 you could go to the PCExchange 
Control Panel click on the options button and put a check next to the SCSI 
device to load  a driver for it. Don't know if this feature goes back as far as 
System 7.1. --glen


  

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Re: SyQuest EZ drive 135

[glen]

- Original Message 

 From: Arnel Tuazon a.tua...@gmail.com
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 2:07:50 PM
 Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ drive 135
 
 
 On 03/08/09 10:36 AM, ltuc...@hiwaay.net wrote:
 
  
  Thanks everyone for the input.  The silver lining lite seems to work
  well with sys 7.1 on a PB 145.  It seems to require the syquest drive
  on with a disk installed when starting the PB for silver lining to
  automatically mount the drive.  I got about 10 cartridges with the
  drive so am still looking to see if one of them contains the SyQuest
  Utilities.
  
  BTW it appears that there are a bunch of links to the old SyQuest site
  all over the net (including some on Low End Mac) that are dead.
  
   From what I've seen so far, these drives are great for old powerbooks
  (once you get them going)
  
  
  
 They are great drives and I don't think you're going to need anything else
 but the Silverlining Lite to mount these drives.  I remember needing to boot
 with the Syquest on and with a drive already set, but after that I was able
 to change disks without any problems.

Silverlining Lite works fine from System 6 thu System 7. xx, I used it with a 
SE with System 6 and through  System 7.xx on  a IIci. The  problem was with 
System 8.

Maybe 8.1 or 8.5, I don't remember; LaCie issued a warning about using 
Silverlining Lite at that time and SyQuest Utilities replaced it. --glen



  

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Re: Apple HD SC Setup doesn't recognize my Quantum prodrive 240s??

[glen]

 - Original Message - 

 From: Sterling 
 To: Vintage Macs 
 Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 5:49 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple HD SC Setup doesn't recognize my Quantum prodrive 240s??
 
 
 
 Well, I got it to somewhat load, but it only allowed me to create a
 200MB partition, but only comes up sometimes.
 
 So maybe it's not toast, but maybe the format tables are jacked.
 
 Does anyone have a decent tool like Silverlining or Maxtor/Quantum
 around that I could try to low level format/wipe this drive and start
 over?
 
 


- Original Message 
 From: Magnetic Control Industry lindon_sh...@hotmail.com

 
 I've got a copy of SilverLining 6.2.2  if you want to try and use that; it 
 can format practically any SCSI disk drive ever created under the sun.  If 
 you would like I can e-mail it to you in *.SIT format providing your e-mail 
 address.
 
 


From my experience Silverlining  Pro  6.xx kind 'da sucks. Of course just my 
experience.

I do have the older versions of Silverlining 5.8.3 and below and they saved  a 
number of my older drives at the time of their release. If you want any of them 
let me know.

Also have HDT PE 2.x which is another good drive utility. I've used it recently 
to map out a few bad block from older vintage SCSI drive on a Performa 630 and 
got it working.

I assume all of the above is abandonware. --glen



  

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Re: kensington orbit dies

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com

 
  I've never actually seen independent confirmation, but I've read that
  the trackballs on some of the earlier Kensingtons (Turbomice? Expert
  Mouse? I forget) actually was surplus cue balls
 I shall have to find myself a cue ball and see if it will fit. If that
 is the case, I think it would look amazing with something like an 8
 ball instead.
  
 


I've heard that too and I remember some vendor was selling  an 8 ball and 
other track balls in various colors to replace the stock white one that came 
with the TurboMouse. Don't know if the 8 ball was an actual pool ball or not.

I still have a TurboMouse in storage --suppose I could be persuaded to part 
with it if the OP wants it as a replacement for the orbit. --glen



  

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Re: PRAM Batteries for Mac Plus, SE and SE/30

[glen]

 
 This is a solder on part which is what the SE takes, right?
 Is the SE/30 the same way or does it take something different?
 
 
The two SE/30 boards I have take a the standard 3.6 volt 1/2 AA cell available 
at Radio Shack, OWC and any number of other sources. They plug into a holder, 
no soldering required.

The one SE board I have left takes the soldered on version of the 3.6 volt 1/2 
AA cell.  Someone who has done the soldered replacement will know better than I 
if the battery you found will be an appropriate replacement.

I seem to remember another SE board that I sold a number of years ago also had 
the plug in 1/2 AA cell rather than the solder on version but my memory is 
weak. I think that board was a  the SE FDHD version. --glen



  

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Re: Compatible Hard Drives for Macintosh SE FDHD

[glen]

 
 do you mind posting pictures of this beast of a hard disk? it sounds
 quite interesting to look at. Myself being a PC person, the only 5.25
 drives I knew of were the Maxtor Bigfoot drives which were beasts to
 me.
 

From Jeff's posts he seem like a busy guy :)

Not that I'm not busy. I hope the link below will suffice. Click on the image 
to enlarge the photos of the ST410800, --glen

http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/sets/72157619373073771/detail/



  

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Re: Re:

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Cyrus Griffin callmemrp...@gmail.com
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:35:15 PM
 Subject: Re: Re:
 
 
 When my parents were in college, they were still programming on  
 punchcards! That must have been crazy! My dad said he remembers way  
 back when, and the important guy at work had a Lisa in his office...  
 (Which was kinda almost a Mac, right? :)
 
 Elliott (Formerly Cyrus)

Punchcards, as long as we are going down memory lane I remember punchcards from 
engin school cica 1968. At that time it was difficult to get mainframe computer 
time at the university computer lab to do your particular project or 
assignment. And this was at one or more respected Big Ten universities noted 
for academics as well as popular sports.

Fast forward about 15 years and I bought my first personal computer, an Apple 
III in the early 80's. Kind of a dog but I ended up with three of them for my 
business before buying my first Mac's in 1989. The Mac II and the Mac SE blew 
away any thing the good 'ol Apple III's could do and I never looked back after 
that. --glen


  

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Re: unreadable cd-roms made in OS X

[glen]

 

 sorry posting this here, I wasn't aware that my good ol 7500 is not
 considered a vintage mac (yet)
 


It is a vintage Mac but not Vintage as defined on this list -- only 68k Macs 
qualify.

Try subscribing to the LEM PCI list. Folks on the PCI list will try to help 
with any additional questions.

I still use a tricked out 7300 and 7500. Now using  the 7300 to write this 
post. --glen



  

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Re: 800k 3.5 disk drive for PowerMac 7100

[glen]

--- On Tue, 2/10/09, H.S. Thompson webdev.dy...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: H.S. Thompson webdev.dy...@gmail.com
 Subject: 800k 3.5 disk drive for PowerMac 7100
 To: Vintage Macs vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 6:34 PM
 Hey Everyone,
 I need a 800k 3.5 external disk drive for my
 PowerMac 7100. 

 
 The reason I need this is because the 2MB internal drive
 won't read
 800k disks, no Mac superdrive will. 

Wow, news to me!

I use a 7100 at work every day but am not at that Mac right now.

Don't use many floppies these days, however, I'm 99.9% sure it reads and writes 
to 800k floppies. I will check tomorrow. Are you sure the drive is not 
defective or needs cleaning? --glen

PS the superdrive goes back the Mac II series and the SE FDHD and needs to be 
compatible with 800k floppies for much of the software of that era.


  

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