Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread RobH.
Think the processor and cameras are upgraded too.

Nothing but the latest iMac grabs me,  and not sure something that big 
should be that thin in  case I bend it in my pants pocket.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:26 PM
Subject: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?


Hi all,

I just ran over to the Apple store website to compare the Mini 2  3.  If I 
am reading things correctly, the only change is the addition of fingerprint 
security?

For a minut, I thought the Mini 3 had upgraded wi-fi signals, but I’m not 
sure.  They both say Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel (2.4GHz and 
5GHz) and MIMO.  iPad2 says, Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel (2.4GHz 
and 5GHz) and MIMO.

Lol, that’s the same, correct?  The iPad3 spacificly mentions 2 wi-fi 
antennas, where I cannot find those words for the 2nd Gen retina model.

Anyway, what do you guys know about the differences in the 2 models?

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: Instant Messaging app

2014-10-17 Thread christopher hallsworth
Skype if linked to your Microsoft account is a good Instant Messaging app for 
Windows Live Messenger.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

 On 17 Oct 2014, at 06:44, Carla Laesch Etheredge ckethere...@inebraska.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi group,
 Was wondering if their is an accessible messaging app for Windows Live 
 Messenger on the IPhone?  I'm familiar with EBuddy, but I read the reviews on 
 applevis.com and it said it was not the best app for reading your buddy list, 
 but you could navigate message windows and so forth.  Is their such an app 
 out there that is totally accessible?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 Carla
 
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Re: All of my five phone list emails or at least most of them seem to be going to my junk mailbox including ones I send

2014-10-17 Thread Fanus

Hi Wren
I think it is a gmail problem because on my PC with outlook express I get 
the problem that many emails are placed in the spam folder on the website 
and the bad thing is that outlook express does not have a spam folder so I 
have to go to the website to move the emails to the inbox folder. I do not 
know how to solve the problem.

Regards
Fanus

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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 2:13 AM
Subject: All of my five phone list emails or at least most of them seem to 
be going to my junk mailbox including ones I send



Hi all, is anyone else having this problem or experiencing this? This did 
not used to happen, but seems to be very recent. Is there a fix? Thank you 
all for the help and God bless, Wren Langley PS thank you for all of your 
patients with all the messages that I have been sending.


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Can't log in after setting up file vault

2014-10-17 Thread christopher hallsworth
Oh wow! Didn't realize all of this was accessible. May check this out as would 
be cool to encrypt my entire system disk. So much for the other platform and 
its comparative feature smile.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

 On 17 Oct 2014, at 05:05, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 After the startup chime, after several seconds, press Command F5 to start VO. 
 Then you should hear a single beep. Type the name or account and press enter. 
 Then you will hear two beeps. Type your password and press enter. You will 
 hear three beeps and your unit will complete booting.
 So it will be one beep for name, two beeps and password, three beeps and your 
 machine will boot. If you missed typed info, you will hear the current beep 
 again. For example if you goofed on the password, that is it the two beeps 
 point. Just retype your password.
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I set up File Vault after upgrading to Yosemite. It never showed me a
 key or offered to have me save that to Apple. But I do know the
 password.
 So my Mac boots and then nothing happens. I understand that there
 should be a beep and I should type my directory name and hit return.
 Then I should fill in the password and hit return again. I've gotten
 that from searching list archives. But I never get a beep. And nothing
 enters. I did get an option once to change my password which I got
 fred to read, so I definitely know my password and the directory name
 because I saw them then. But now I can't get Fred again and I can't
 log in at all. I'm stressed! LOL!
 I promise I'll turn off this feature and be less secure if I ever get
 back into my Mac. I just don't know why I'm not getting the beep to
 enter the home directory.
 
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Re: Question about west minster chime app

2014-10-17 Thread christopher hallsworth
Yes, it is normal for the phone to vibrate twice on the hour and once for the 
half hour in your case but it will also vibrate once on the quarter hour and on 
the three quarter hour. Make sure in the app's notification settings you set 
show in notification centre to no more than one recent item, badges are off and 
the alert style set to none. You should also turn off show on lock screen.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

 On 17 Oct 2014, at 04:55, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 I got the west minster chimes app on my iPhone 5  and I've had this app for a 
 few days now. I went to settings and to Notifications  center  and set my 
 chimes to  sound off on the hour and half hour. I also have my chimes set to 
 west minster  and the sound is turn on.
  
 My question is 
   how do I know if I got my settings  right in notification center like it 
 said to do before I downloaded this app?
  
 Also, I noticed on the hour the west minster chimes will chime on the hour 
 and half hour  like I want it to do but when the hour comes around and the 
 chimes start to chime my phone will also vibrate  is this supposed to do this 
 or not? Just wanting to  make sure I have everything in the west minster 
 chime app set like it should be. Thanks.
  
 Lori and the Gipper
  
 
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Instant Messaging app

2014-10-17 Thread Carla Laesch Etheredge
I have my Microsoft account linked to skype. My Microsoft account is new 
without any windows live contacts yet. I need to import frm my old live account 
the ppl I want frm there but how will I use Skype as a messenger app then? Will 
my live contacts show up in the list of ppl in the Skype app? Kind of new to 
this new feature of linking accounts. Thanks Christopher 

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Re: turning ipod to daisy player

2014-10-17 Thread RobH.
Getting the books to the device remains an issue with me.  Prefer the old 
Milestone i'm still using if you can get one 2nd hand.

I know there is a daisy app for iOs, can't remember what.

R.
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From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:23 AM
Subject: turning ipod to daisy player


Hi all,

Just wondering, has anyone use their i devises as  a daisy player? if
so, how successful?

My daisy player is struggling from a very slow death. I'm looking at
different players, or simply, turn my old iphon4 or ipod 4th gen to
daisy player.

Thoughts?

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Re: Instant Messaging app

2014-10-17 Thread Davy Cuppens
Carla 

I just use the messenger app and I am quite satisfied about it.
Regards
Davy 

From: christopher hallsworth 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:49 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Instant Messaging app

Skype if linked to your Microsoft account is a good Instant Messaging app for 
Windows Live Messenger.


Sent from my Macbook Pro 

  On 17 Oct 2014, at 06:44, Carla Laesch Etheredge ckethere...@inebraska.com 
wrote:

  Hi group,
  Was wondering if their is an accessible messaging app for Windows Live 
Messenger on the IPhone?  I'm familiar with EBuddy, but I read the reviews on 
applevis.com and it said it was not the best app for reading your buddy list, 
but you could navigate message windows and so forth.  Is their such an app out 
there that is totally accessible?

  Thanks in advance.
  Carla

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Re: SSL POP Email

2014-10-17 Thread Anna Byrne

Inbound should be 995 and outbound 465.

Good luck!


Hello all,
well I now have one of my accounts back to POP from IMAP. Does POP 
support SSL? I am unable to get to work. Does anybody know what port 
number I should use for SSL? I am using port 110 at the moment. This 
is the port the iPhone selected.

Thanks again for any help.
Max.

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Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.

2014-10-17 Thread Bluesman02

Hi all,
As some of you probably remember, I had to put my phone in for repair 
recently.  and since it has been returned to me, when playing Dice World, I 
constantly get the following annoying alert.


Would you like to watch a video for one gold?.  This happens everytime I 
have taken my turn. but has only happened since my phone has come back from 
the repair center.


Anyone got any ideas as to how I can get rid of this pest? LOL!.

Best regards,

Del 



__ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature 
database 10578 (20141017) __

The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

http://www.eset.com



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apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread David Gross
My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.

She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.

 

This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her
phone, mine is still showing 7.12.

 

Why would this be?

 

She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting to
the new unwanted update.

 

I am a voiceover user.

 

To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone load
the new ios update.

 

This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC,
Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not
work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft disability
support line to walk through removing the update because they understood the
negative effect on my screen reader.

 

By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does not
have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.

 

I think I like Microsoft's corporate policy better.

 

Thoughts?

 

David Gross

 

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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Robin
I was under the presumption that Apple doesn't CHARGE for its 
Services so long as you have purchased its AppleCare, but I could be 
WRONG. If anyone knows, feel free to correct me.


It's just a different policy between Microsoft  Apple on whether or 
not to CHARGE for Technical Services (InPerson and/or TelePhone).


At 05:27 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote:

My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.

This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on 
her phone, mine is still showing 7.12.


Why would this be?

She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty 
adapting to the new unwanted update.


I am a voiceover user.

To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that 
everyone load the new ios update.


This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which 
does not work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the 
Microsoft disability support line to walk through removing the 
update because they understood the negative effect on my screen reader.


By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife 
does not have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.


I think I like Microsoft's corporate policy better.

Thoughts?

David Gross


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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Gail the U. S. Male
you are correct, but his wife doesn't have apple care, according to his message.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robin 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:32 AM
  Subject: Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?


  I was under the presumption that Apple doesn't CHARGE for its Services so 
long as you have purchased its AppleCare, but I could be WRONG. If anyone 
knows, feel free to correct me.

  It's just a different policy between Microsoft  Apple on whether or not to 
CHARGE for Technical Services (InPerson and/or TelePhone).

  At 05:27 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote:

My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.
 
This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her 
phone, mine is still showing 7.12.
 
Why would this be?
 
She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting 
to the new unwanted update.
 
I am a voiceover user.
 
To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone load 
the new ios update.
 
This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not work 
well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft disability support 
line to walk through removing the update because they understood the negative 
effect on my screen reader.
 
By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does not 
have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.
 
I think I like Microsoft's corporate policy better.
 
Thoughts?
 
David Gross
 

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RE: apple pushing through mandatory iOS 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Merv Keck
Hi,

Perhaps she has automatic updates turned on? I do not know if updates work
that way with the IOS if you have updates turned on or not. However, I have
mine set for manual updates so that I control when I update my apps and the
spouse lets her apps update automatically. Very often I will know when an
app has been updated before she does and sometimes I will have an app
updated before she is aware there is even one available and has the update
on her phone. Incidentally, I have not been forced to update to IOS 8 yet.

Hope that helps,

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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Donna
Hi

Perhaps she has automatic updates turned on? This can be found and turned off 
by going to Settings, iTunes and App Store. 

With automatic updates turned on Apple forces the update to your device. I 
don't think that the update is installed unless she accepts the Terms  
Conditions Agreement. I could be incorrect on this. I know that I noticed that 
automatic updates was turned on and updating began on my son's iPod when I 
plugged in the iPod. I was able to stop the process by unplugging the iPod and 
turning off automatic updates. 

Donna

 On Oct 17, 2014, at 8:27 AM, David Gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
 She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.
  
 This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her 
 phone, mine is still showing 7.12.
  
 Why would this be?
  
 She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting to 
 the new unwanted update.
  
 I am a voiceover user.
  
 To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone load 
 the new ios update.
  
 This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
 Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not 
 work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft disability 
 support line to walk through removing the update because they understood the 
 negative effect on my screen reader.
  
 By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does not 
 have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.
  
 I think I like Microsoft’s corporate policy better.
  
 Thoughts?
  
 David Gross
  
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Re: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.

2014-10-17 Thread Alex Hall
There's a setting for that. I don't remember the exact text, but it's something 
about prompting for gold videos. You'll know it when you see it, and it's right 
in the app's settings.
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Bluesman02 bluesma...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 As some of you probably remember, I had to put my phone in for repair 
 recently.  and since it has been returned to me, when playing Dice World, I 
 constantly get the following annoying alert.
 
 Would you like to watch a video for one gold?.  This happens everytime I have 
 taken my turn. but has only happened since my phone has come back from the 
 repair center.
 
 Anyone got any ideas as to how I can get rid of this pest? LOL!.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Del 
 
 __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature 
 database 10578 (20141017) __
 
 The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
 
 http://www.eset.com
 
 
 
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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Alex Hall
App Store updates are automatic, but iOS8 will not install without the user's 
permission. It may download, but unless the user allows the process to 
continue, it will just wait until the user updates. Zoom is different, but to 
get the old method back, just go to Zoom's settings and choose full screen 
from the Zoom type near the bottom. The new method is one a lot of people seem 
to like - a square, inside of which is zoomed content. For some, this is a far 
superior method, but others like the old style, and now there is a choice 
between the two.
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 Perhaps she has automatic updates turned on? This can be found and turned off 
 by going to Settings, iTunes and App Store. 
 
 With automatic updates turned on Apple forces the update to your device. I 
 don't think that the update is installed unless she accepts the Terms  
 Conditions Agreement. I could be incorrect on this. I know that I noticed 
 that automatic updates was turned on and updating began on my son's iPod when 
 I plugged in the iPod. I was able to stop the process by unplugging the iPod 
 and turning off automatic updates. 
 
 Donna
 
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 8:27 AM, David Gross david.dgro...@gmail.com 
 mailto:david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
 She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.
  
 This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her 
 phone, mine is still showing 7.12.
  
 Why would this be?
  
 She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting to 
 the new unwanted update.
  
 I am a voiceover user.
  
 To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone load 
 the new ios update.
  
 This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
 Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not 
 work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft disability 
 support line to walk through removing the update because they understood the 
 negative effect on my screen reader.
  
 By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does not 
 have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.
  
 I think I like Microsoft’s corporate policy better.
  
 Thoughts?
  
 David Gross
  
 
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Re: Knfb Reader update is now available

2014-10-17 Thread Russ Kiehne
Is that with the first or second generation ipad mini?

From: Wren Langley 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Knfb Reader update is now available

Hi all, I have a friend who uses an iPad mini and she says that with the update 
of cayenne FB reader it does work with her iPad mini. God bless, Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 16, 2014, at 1:14 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:


  I think the answer there is that it is unlikely.

  I’d write supp...@knfbreader.com

  And ask them.  

  I’ve not heard much joy with folks trying to use it on anything but phones.

   

  Anyone else heard any good news on iPads or iPad Minis?

  Richard

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:01 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Knfb Reader update is now available

   

  I’m wondering if it will work on my first generation ipad mini?

   

  From: Christine Szostak 

  Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:28 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: Knfb Reader update is now available

   

  I suspect that part of that was that many iPod Touch users raved about it and 
thus they realized that it was actually working fine. Just my thoughts.

  Have a great rest of the day!

  Chris

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:27 AM

Subject: RE: Knfb Reader update is now available

 

I do find it interesting, however, how KNFB made a big deal pointing out 
that in the past they could not bring this product to the iOS platform because 
the camera was just not good enough. Now it is apparently officially supported 
on the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which has a 5 MP camera and the iPhone 4S which 
came out when? Oh, right, it was in 2011 – 3 years ago. Don’t get me wrong, I 
bought the app on the day it was released and think it works great, but I find 
their announcements were all over the place and contained a lot of incorrect 
information and excuses and.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jennie Facer
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Knfb Reader update is now available

 

The update for the cake and if the reader rocks! It works on my iPad mini 
now without no sluggishness.

Jen


TO THE WORLD YOU ARE 
SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU ARE THE WORLD!


On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:

  Likewise, I’d like a follow up on how it works on a 5th generation ipod 
touch.

   

  From: christopher hallsworth 

  Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 12:10 AM

  To: Viphone 

  Subject: Re: Knfb Reader update is now available

   

  Nice one! When I have the funds I will give it a shot. Of course it may 
never happen but I look forward to any feedback on how the update is going on 
the 4s.


  Sent from my Macbook Pro 

   

  On 15 Oct 2014, at 08:09, Victor Hugo Gallegos hugo.galleg...@gmail.com 
wrote:

   

Hello everyone, just wanted to let you know that there is an update for 
knfb Reader, this update now supports iPhone 4s, iPod fifth generation, iPhone 
6, and iPhone 6 Plus.

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Trouble sending mail

2014-10-17 Thread Karen Poulakos
I have been having trouble sending mail from my iPad.  I have been receiving 
mail just fine.  So I know everything is ok there.  I can't seem to find 
outgoing server settings so I can check them.  The incoming server settings 
are there.  It's a mystery to me.


Any suggestions?

Karen P 


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Response from TD Bank Mobile App Developers Regarding Reported Bugs

2014-10-17 Thread Christine Grassman
Hello, all.
A couple weeks ago, I reported here about issues with TD Bank's web site and 
recent issues with the mobile app, the latter which had up to that point been 
completely accessible.

Thanks to outreach by Karen Lewellen, another list member, I received 
an email from an app development representative,and I explained the issues to 
him. Yesterday, I received a response. Below, I have copied and pasted my 
original email to him and the response received.  He assures me that the issues 
are up for fixing in a future app update.

For now, the workarounds should suffice. 
Now I'm awaiting results of speaking with another TD Bank rep about the web 
site. Stay tuned. 
***

The mobile app has been fantastic until recently. Between last month and this, 
the layout changed slightly when paying bills, at least as far as I can 
determine with VoiceOver.
The issue I am having is that when I input the payment amount, VoiceOver is 
speaking it but when I hit Submit it just stays on that screen. I had to have 
my husband write it in and hit Submit after turning VO off.
Then, I attempted to check my Account history. I selected sixty days, and after 
the first screen, I hit the next button. Again, nothing happened.
I have tried:

1. powering the phone off, then on, and trying again;

2. Resetting the phone;

3. Deleting, then reinstalling the app.

Christine





***
Hi again Christine, I sat with our testing group and I think we have figured 
out the issues and some potential workarounds for you.

For bill pay after you enter your date and swipe right it is highlighting an 
icon for the pop up calendar. When you use voice over it is voicing that icon 
as Submit  but that is not what it is for and I'm assuming that is why 
nothing is happening for you. As a workaround If you again swipe past that 
first submit it will read the next two objects as Failed visited link then 
it finally goes over to amount. If you continue on the next Submit you reach 
is the actual submit button.

For the account history it appears as you swipe right through the history using 
voice over it never actually reaches the next page button. It will just loop. 
As a workaround if you reach the end of the history then swipe down it is 
letting us then highlight the next button.

Both of these issues are new to us and seemed to have been introduced as of the 
launch of iOS 8. I've had them both logged to be fixed but hopefully these 
workarounds help you in the meantime.


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Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Russ Kiehne
I'll probably get the ipad mini 2 instead of the ipad mini 3.  As of now, I 
have the first generation ipad mini.  In my case, updating to the ipad mini 
2 will be an upgrade of hardware.


-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Somebody else just posted stating that the processor in the mini has not 
been updated. If that is true, my original statement stands. Why the hell by 
the new one? Take advantage of the price drop and get the old one.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip.




On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:

Hello,
Yes. It’s the A8X chip.

On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com 
wrote:


Did I miss something?  Didn't they put in the new chip that is in the 
iPhone 6?
They have also dropped the price points so for $499 you can get the 16 
GB WiFi, $599 you can get the 64 GB 'wiFi model and for $699, the 128 
GB.

.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Cristóbal

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

The new Mini will be available in gold and have the touch ID sensor. 
Other then that, it's the same device.
You're better off grabbing last year's model if those two features 
aren't important to you.
I guess the other thing that is a plus is that pricing seems to be 
headed down. With the lack of a 32GB model, the 64 and 128 GB devices 
are $100.00 cheaper pushing the older versions down too. By offering the 
16 GB iPads at the same introductory price, it's like Apple wants you to 
just buy the larger storage options instead.
I guess if you're into the enhanced photo and video aspects with the new 
Air 2, the new versions may be interesting, but  all in all, 
underwhelming.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Traci Duncan

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Hi all,

I just ran over to the Apple store website to compare the Mini 2  3. 
If I am reading things correctly, the only change is the addition of 
fingerprint security?


For a minut, I thought the Mini 3 had upgraded wi-fi signals, but I’m 
not sure.  They both say Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel (2.4GHz 
and 5GHz) and MIMO.  iPad2 says, Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel 
(2.4GHz and 5GHz) and MIMO.


Lol, that’s the same, correct?  The iPad3 spacificly mentions 2 wi-fi 
antennas, where I cannot find those words for the 2nd Gen retina model.


Anyway, what do you guys know about the differences in the 2 models?

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: turning ipod to daisy player

2014-10-17 Thread Russ Kiehne

With the following apps, I can do everything my Booksense daisy player does.

Bard mobile: I can read nls books.

Audible: I can read books from audible.

Learning Ally: I can read books from Learning Ally.

Boice dream reader: I can read books from bookshare,  unprotected epub. 
Supported File Formats
PDF, EPUB (DRM free), DAISY 3.0 text-based eBooks, DAISY 2.02 audiobooks, 
Zipped MP3 files, such as LibriVox, Plain Text, Rich Text Format (RTF), 
Microsoft Word, Microsoft PowerPoint, Apple Pages, Apple Keynote, HTML,
What's nice about voice dream reader, you can download books from both 
bookshare and Project Gutenberg directly to your device.  Voice dream reader 
is supplied with Acapela Heather.  You have the optionof using Neospeech or 
Ivona.

Personally, I like Neospeech better than Acapela.  I haven't tried Ivona as
of yet.

-Original Message- 
From: Joanne Chua

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:23 PM
To: viphone
Subject: turning ipod to daisy player

Hi all,

Just wondering, has anyone use their i devises as  a daisy player? if
so, how successful?

My daisy player is struggling from a very slow death. I'm looking at
different players, or simply, turn my old iphon4 or ipod 4th gen to
daisy player.

Thoughts?

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Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
Well, I'm of two minds. The Touch ID would seem to offer a lot more security. 
I've had a device stolen before, so maybe I'm a little tetchy on this one, but 
that might be a reason for me to buy the newest Mini.

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Somebody else just posted stating that the processor in the mini has not been 
 updated. If that is true, my original statement stands. Why the hell by the 
 new one? Take advantage of the price drop and get the old one.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip.
 
 
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Yes. It’s the A8X chip.
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 Did I miss something?  Didn't they put in the new chip that is in the 
 iPhone 6?
 They have also dropped the price points so for $499 you can get the 16 GB 
 WiFi, $599 you can get the 64 GB 'wiFi model and for $699, the 128 GB.
 .
 
 Richard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Cristóbal
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:40 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 The new Mini will be available in gold and have the touch ID sensor. Other 
 then that, it's the same device. 
 You're better off grabbing last year's model if those two features aren't 
 important to you. 
 I guess the other thing that is a plus is that pricing seems to be headed 
 down. With the lack of a 32GB model, the 64 and 128 GB devices are $100.00 
 cheaper pushing the older versions down too. By offering the 16 GB iPads 
 at the same introductory price, it's like Apple wants you to just buy the 
 larger storage options instead.
 I guess if you're into the enhanced photo and video aspects with the new 
 Air 2, the new versions may be interesting, but  all in all, 
 underwhelming. 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Traci Duncan
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just ran over to the Apple store website to compare the Mini 2  3.  If 
 I am reading things correctly, the only change is the addition of 
 fingerprint security?
 
 For a minut, I thought the Mini 3 had upgraded wi-fi signals, but I’m not 
 sure.  They both say Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel (2.4GHz and 
 5GHz) and MIMO.  iPad2 says, Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel 
 (2.4GHz and 5GHz) and MIMO.
 
 Lol, that’s the same, correct?  The iPad3 spacificly mentions 2 wi-fi 
 antennas, where I cannot find those words for the 2nd Gen retina model.
 
 Anyway, what do you guys know about the differences in the 2 models?
 
 Thanks,
 Traci
 
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Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
I tried checking for specs in the Apple Store app, but they're down for 
maintenance as of this writing. I'll check later. The app does a good job of 
listing features and specs when you double-tap a product. I don't really want 
to go play around on the website.
Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Well, I'm of two minds. The Touch ID would seem to offer a lot more security. 
 I've had a device stolen before, so maybe I'm a little tetchy on this one, 
 but that might be a reason for me to buy the newest Mini.
 
 Teresa
 
 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
 the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Somebody else just posted stating that the processor in the mini has not 
 been updated. If that is true, my original statement stands. Why the hell by 
 the new one? Take advantage of the price drop and get the old one.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip.
 
 
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Yes. It’s the A8X chip.
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 Did I miss something?  Didn't they put in the new chip that is in the 
 iPhone 6?
 They have also dropped the price points so for $499 you can get the 16 GB 
 WiFi, $599 you can get the 64 GB 'wiFi model and for $699, the 128 GB.
 .
 
 Richard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cristóbal
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:40 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 The new Mini will be available in gold and have the touch ID sensor. 
 Other then that, it's the same device. 
 You're better off grabbing last year's model if those two features aren't 
 important to you. 
 I guess the other thing that is a plus is that pricing seems to be headed 
 down. With the lack of a 32GB model, the 64 and 128 GB devices are 
 $100.00 cheaper pushing the older versions down too. By offering the 16 
 GB iPads at the same introductory price, it's like Apple wants you to 
 just buy the larger storage options instead.
 I guess if you're into the enhanced photo and video aspects with the new 
 Air 2, the new versions may be interesting, but  all in all, 
 underwhelming. 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Traci Duncan
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just ran over to the Apple store website to compare the Mini 2  3.  If 
 I am reading things correctly, the only change is the addition of 
 fingerprint security?
 
 For a minut, I thought the Mini 3 had upgraded wi-fi signals, but I’m not 
 sure.  They both say Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel (2.4GHz and 
 5GHz) and MIMO.  iPad2 says, Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel 
 (2.4GHz and 5GHz) and MIMO.
 
 Lol, that’s the same, correct?  The iPad3 spacificly mentions 2 wi-fi 
 antennas, where I cannot find those words for the 2nd Gen retina model.
 
 Anyway, what do you guys know about the differences in the 2 models?
 
 Thanks,
 Traci
 
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Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
I got an offer for $225 for my iPad Mini with Retina 32GB wi-fi. So, if 
I can't sell mine elsewhere I'll do the Gazelle offer.


--
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It amazes me how annoying some people can be in 140 characters or less. 
- Sheldon Cooper

Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 10/17/2014 9:25 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Well, I'm of two minds. The Touch ID would seem to offer a lot more
security. I've had a device stolen before, so maybe I'm a little tetchy
on this one, but that might be a reason for me to buy the newest Mini.

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com
mailto:motte...@gmail.com wrote:


Somebody else just posted stating that the processor in the mini has
not been updated. If that is true, my original statement stands. Why
the hell by the new one? Take advantage of the price drop and get the
old one.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com
mailto:our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip.




On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com
mailto:ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:

Hello,
Yes. It’s the A8X chip.


On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com
mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote:

Did I miss something?  Didn't they put in the new chip that is in
the iPhone 6?
They have also dropped the price points so for $499 you can get the
16 GB WiFi, $599 you can get the 64 GB 'wiFi model and for $699,
the 128 GB.
.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

The new Mini will be available in gold and have the touch ID
sensor. Other then that, it's the same device.
You're better off grabbing last year's model if those two features
aren't important to you.
I guess the other thing that is a plus is that pricing seems to be
headed down. With the lack of a 32GB model, the 64 and 128 GB
devices are $100.00 cheaper pushing the older versions down too. By
offering the 16 GB iPads at the same introductory price, it's like
Apple wants you to just buy the larger storage options instead.
I guess if you're into the enhanced photo and video aspects with
the new Air 2, the new versions may be interesting, but  all in
all, underwhelming.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Hi all,

I just ran over to the Apple store website to compare the Mini 2 
3.  If I am reading things correctly, the only change is the
addition of fingerprint security?

For a minut, I thought the Mini 3 had upgraded wi-fi signals, but
I’m not sure.  They both say Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel
(2.4GHz and 5GHz) and MIMO.  iPad2 says, Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n);
dual channel (2.4GHz and 5GHz) and MIMO.

Lol, that’s the same, correct?  The iPad3 spacificly mentions 2
wi-fi antennas, where I cannot find those words for the 2nd Gen
retina model.

Anyway, what do you guys know about the differences in the 2 models?

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: turning ipod to daisy player

2014-10-17 Thread Russ Kiehne
With the apps on my ipad mini, I can download the books directly to it. 
Such as bookshare, nls, Learning Ally and Audible.


-Original Message- 
From: RobH.

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: turning ipod to daisy player

Getting the books to the device remains an issue with me.  Prefer the old
Milestone i'm still using if you can get one 2nd hand.

I know there is a daisy app for iOs, can't remember what.

R.
- Original Message - 
From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com

To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:23 AM
Subject: turning ipod to daisy player


Hi all,

Just wondering, has anyone use their i devises as  a daisy player? if
so, how successful?

My daisy player is struggling from a very slow death. I'm looking at
different players, or simply, turn my old iphon4 or ipod 4th gen to
daisy player.

Thoughts?

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Re: Trouble sending mail

2014-10-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Karen,

Go to Settings, then the Mail, Contacts, and Calendart area and double-tap it. 
You'll find a list of your mail accounts. Double-tap the one you want to 
modify. At the top of this screen is a button with the name of the account. 
Double tap this, and you'll find your mail settings here.

HtH,
Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 On Oct 17, 2014, at 6:55 AM, Karen Poulakos kpoula...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 I have been having trouble sending mail from my iPad.  I have been receiving 
 mail just fine.  So I know everything is ok there.  I can't seem to find 
 outgoing server settings so I can check them.  The incoming server settings 
 are there.  It's a mystery to me.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Karen P 
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Re: rats! We must wait until Monday??

2014-10-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
Well, I know I sound like a wet blanket, but 8.1 is pushing some new features, 
so it will surprise me if much extensive work has been done with Voiceover. I 
certainly hope for it, though.

Teresa

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the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 On Oct 16, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Well, I guess if you have a break-down because you can’t get iOS 8.1 2 
 minutes after it comes out you’ll be already at the hospital! When I hear 
 about paying for a hospital visit I’m sure glad I live in a country with a 
 health care system. Anyhow, after the iOS 8.0.1 fiasco it’s maybe not a bad 
 idea to wait a day or 2 with the update.
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
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 Charles Rivard
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:26 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: rats! We must wait until Monday??
  
 When I was in an emergency room with someone last week, I could not make 
 phone calls.  I will be staying, temporarily, in that same hospital.  If they 
 do have WiFi, I hope they don't dollar me to death, the way they do with 
 everything else.  They don't mess with change, just bills, bills, and more 
 bills.  They send you theirs, and take all of yours.  (grin)
 
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 Hello, there should be no worry, most hospitals have Wi-Fi. So you will be 
 able to do the update if you have your phone.
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 I O S 8.1 won't be available until Monday.  Even worse, I'll be going into 
 the hospital on Monday afternoon and will probably be there for a day or so.  
 It's not major, so I'm not worried.  But, darnit, we don't get the update 
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Re: Question about west minster chime app

2014-10-17 Thread Bill Gallik
One negative issue I have with the West Minster Chime app is that it announces 
the time -- if I wanted to be told the time I would not require the chimes.  
Can this be disabled?


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  Subject: Question about west minster chime app


  Hi all,

  I got the west minster chimes app on my iPhone 5  and I've had this app for a 
few days now. I went to settings and to Notifications  center  and set my 
chimes to  sound off on the hour and half hour. I also have my chimes set to 
west minster  and the sound is turn on.

  My question is 
how do I know if I got my settings  right in notification center like it 
said to do before I downloaded this app?

  Also, I noticed on the hour the west minster chimes will chime on the hour 
and half hour  like I want it to do but when the hour comes around and the 
chimes start to chime my phone will also vibrate  is this supposed to do this 
or not? Just wanting to  make sure I have everything in the west minster chime 
app set like it should be. Thanks.

  Lori and the Gipper


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HTML documents and the KNFB reader

2014-10-17 Thread Sandratomkins
Hi,
Just playing around with the reader and I'm wondering about something: I chose 
HTML for my format. I then printed my document. Now, I should explain: I had 
taken a shot of a page of teletext from my TV. As you might imagine, this has a 
particular layout. And so I chose to format the document as an HTML file. But 
when I printed it it came out as a straightforward paragraph. However, I did 
have to go via voice dream reader in order to be able to print the file. So, my 
questions are these: firstly, is there a way to print directly from the KNFB? 
Secondly, am I wrong in assuming that HTML implies a faithful reproduction of 
the original layout? I was very pleased when I first saw this option thinking, 
for the first time, that we could have the usefulness of OCR without the loss 
of formatting, but am I wrong?

Any tips tricks answers et cetera, most appreciated!
Sandy

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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Wayne Merritt
You can control whether your apps update automatically, but iOS
updates are a bit different. They will automatically download, but you
can choose whether or not you want to install them. You can delete the
update but it will download again at some point. If you don't want to
install it, then just know that whenever you go to General in
Settings, 1 item will also show up. This is the current iOS 8 update
that you can choose to install or not.

Hth,
Wayne

On 10/17/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 App Store updates are automatic, but iOS8 will not install without the
 user's permission. It may download, but unless the user allows the process
 to continue, it will just wait until the user updates. Zoom is different,
 but to get the old method back, just go to Zoom's settings and choose full
 screen from the Zoom type near the bottom. The new method is one a lot of
 people seem to like - a square, inside of which is zoomed content. For some,
 this is a far superior method, but others like the old style, and now there
 is a choice between the two.
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Hi

 Perhaps she has automatic updates turned on? This can be found and turned
 off by going to Settings, iTunes and App Store.

 With automatic updates turned on Apple forces the update to your device. I
 don't think that the update is installed unless she accepts the Terms 
 Conditions Agreement. I could be incorrect on this. I know that I noticed
 that automatic updates was turned on and updating began on my son's iPod
 when I plugged in the iPod. I was able to stop the process by unplugging
 the iPod and turning off automatic updates.

 Donna

 On Oct 17, 2014, at 8:27 AM, David Gross david.dgro...@gmail.com
 mailto:david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:

 My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
 She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.

 This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her
 phone, mine is still showing 7.12.

 Why would this be?

 She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting
 to the new unwanted update.

 I am a voiceover user.

 To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone
 load the new ios update.

 This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC,
 Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not
 work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft
 disability support line to walk through removing the update because they
 understood the negative effect on my screen reader.

 By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does
 not have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.

 I think I like Microsoft's corporate policy better.

 Thoughts?

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RE: rats! We must wait until Monday??

2014-10-17 Thread Rose Combs
Scottsdale has WIFI, you have to accept it on your I-device, did it hundreds
of times over the past several years when Tommy was in and have done so from
my office also.  Thing it is it does not stay connected if not actually in
use so, if I was downloading a book and went to the cafeteria for dinner
once that download finished within five minutes the WIFI turned off and when
I wanted to do anything else like say check the bank (Tommy tried to slip a
couple of expensive items by me saying it was his medications) I'd have to
find those accept buttons again to check on the bank, unless I was running
cellular only which I had to do a few times because our home network was
down and Dummy me had no clue how to fix it.  

 

You can ask, if it is password protected nurses should be able to help or
find out.  

 

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: rats! We must wait until Monday??

 

When I was in an emergency room with someone last week, I could not make
phone calls.  I will be staying, temporarily, in that same hospital.  If
they do have WiFi, I hope they don't dollar me to death, the way they do
with everything else.  They don't mess with change, just bills, bills, and
more bills.  They send you theirs, and take all of yours.  (grin)


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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:50 PM

Subject: Re: rats! We must wait until Monday??

 

Hello, there should be no worry, most hospitals have Wi-Fi. So you will be
able to do the update if you have your phone.

On Oct 16, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:





I O S 8.1 won't be available until Monday.  Even worse, I'll be going into
the hospital on Monday afternoon and will probably be there for a day or so.
It's not major, so I'm not worried.  But, darnit, we don't get the update
yet.  Let's hope that a lot of the VoiceOver bugs have been worked out!


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RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Rose Combs
Well, for the use I give my iPad mini, I think I will just use it for now, 
mostly use it to read books, maybe Facebook and Twitter, music.  Good enough 
for me for the time being.  Gave Tom's to someone who spent more than a month 
on a ventilator, set it up so it could be his voice when he felt like typing.  
Figured it was a good use for it.  


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Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip.



 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Yes. It’s the A8X chip.
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 Did I miss something?  Didn't they put in the new chip that is in the iPhone 
 6?
 They have also dropped the price points so for $499 you can get the 16 GB 
 WiFi, $599 you can get the 64 GB 'wiFi model and for $699, the 128 GB.
 .
 
 Richard
 
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 Of Cristóbal
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:40 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 The new Mini will be available in gold and have the touch ID sensor. Other 
 then that, it's the same device. 
 You're better off grabbing last year's model if those two features aren't 
 important to you. 
 I guess the other thing that is a plus is that pricing seems to be headed 
 down. With the lack of a 32GB model, the 64 and 128 GB devices are $100.00 
 cheaper pushing the older versions down too. By offering the 16 GB iPads at 
 the same introductory price, it's like Apple wants you to just buy the 
 larger storage options instead.
 I guess if you're into the enhanced photo and video aspects with the new Air 
 2, the new versions may be interesting, but  all in all, underwhelming. 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just ran over to the Apple store website to compare the Mini 2  3.  If I 
 am reading things correctly, the only change is the addition of fingerprint 
 security?
 
 For a minut, I thought the Mini 3 had upgraded wi-fi signals, but I’m not 
 sure.  They both say Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel (2.4GHz and 
 5GHz) and MIMO.  iPad2 says, Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel (2.4GHz 
 and 5GHz) and MIMO.
 
 Lol, that’s the same, correct?  The iPad3 spacificly mentions 2 wi-fi 
 antennas, where I cannot find those words for the 2nd Gen retina model.
 
 Anyway, what do you guys know about the differences in the 2 models?
 
 Thanks,
 Traci
 
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Prismo manual and questions

2014-10-17 Thread Wayne Merritt
Greetings. With all of the talk about the KNFB Reader app, I had
forgotten that I had purchased Prismo a few years ago and then deleted
it from my phone. I downloaded it from my purchase history last night.
Does anyone know of a manual or documentation, other than what is in
the app, for using Prismo? I read over the help documentation in the
app and there's not much there. Partly I am wondering how the app will
tell me that the picture is straight or if I am the appropriate
distance away from the page. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
For those that have Prismo, has anyone tried it on an iPhone 6 or 6
Plus, and if so, how has your experience been?

Many thanks,
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RE: apple pushing through mandatory iOS 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Neal Ewers
OK, Question on this. I assume I have the latest update on my phone, but I
have not installed it. So, what if when I am ready to install, I do it
through iTunes. Does it use the update that is on my phone, or does it
download a later one if one exists? If it downloads a newer one, does it
delete the older one off my phone?

Neal


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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

You can control whether your apps update automatically, but iOS updates are
a bit different. They will automatically download, but you can choose
whether or not you want to install them. You can delete the update but it
will download again at some point. If you don't want to install it, then
just know that whenever you go to General in Settings, 1 item will also
show up. This is the current iOS 8 update that you can choose to install or
not.

Hth,
Wayne

On 10/17/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 App Store updates are automatic, but iOS8 will not install without the 
 user's permission. It may download, but unless the user allows the 
 process to continue, it will just wait until the user updates. Zoom is 
 different, but to get the old method back, just go to Zoom's settings 
 and choose full screen from the Zoom type near the bottom. The new 
 method is one a lot of people seem to like - a square, inside of which 
 is zoomed content. For some, this is a far superior method, but others 
 like the old style, and now there is a choice between the two.
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Hi

 Perhaps she has automatic updates turned on? This can be found and 
 turned off by going to Settings, iTunes and App Store.

 With automatic updates turned on Apple forces the update to your 
 device. I don't think that the update is installed unless she accepts 
 the Terms  Conditions Agreement. I could be incorrect on this. I 
 know that I noticed that automatic updates was turned on and updating 
 began on my son's iPod when I plugged in the iPod. I was able to stop 
 the process by unplugging the iPod and turning off automatic updates.

 Donna

 On Oct 17, 2014, at 8:27 AM, David Gross david.dgro...@gmail.com 
 mailto:david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:

 My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
 She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.

 This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on 
 her phone, mine is still showing 7.12.

 Why would this be?

 She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty 
 adapting to the new unwanted update.

 I am a voiceover user.

 To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that 
 everyone load the new ios update.

 This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
 Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which 
 does not work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the 
 Microsoft disability support line to walk through removing the 
 update because they understood the negative effect on my screen reader.

 By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife 
 does not have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.

 I think I like Microsoft's corporate policy better.

 Thoughts?

 David Gross


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RE: bluetooth keyboard quit working on my ipad minny

2014-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I assume you are dealing with the know fact that there are issues with using
a bluetooth keyboard with iOS 8. Maybe You will probably get more detailed
help if you mention the following:

1. When did you upgrade and did you use your bluetooth keyboard after the
upgrade successfully?
2. What iOS device and what bluetooth keyboard do you have (not as
important, but it won't hurt to know)
3. Are you aware of the various discussions and work-arounds that have been
discussed, e.g. installing another keyboard under Settings, General,
Keyboard and turning off quick nav?

Since I don't know if you used your keyboard successfully with iOS 8 before,
I guess it could also be as simple as your keyboard needing to be recharged
or requiring new batteries. Did you check under Settings and Bluetooth if it
is even connected?


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: bluetooth keyboard quit working on my ipad minny

Hey guys,
Any idea how to troubleshoot the fact that i can literally hit keys on my
bluetooth keyboard and it says nothing?
For some reason, it doesn't seem to be working at all.
Any ideas?

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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I don't understand how they could be pushed through when you have to agree to 
the terms to get it.

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And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
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great is your faithfulness.
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 On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Robin robin-mel...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I was under the presumption that Apple doesn't CHARGE for its Services so 
 long as you have purchased its AppleCare, but I could be WRONG. If anyone 
 knows, feel free to correct me.
 
 It's just a different policy between Microsoft  Apple on whether or not to 
 CHARGE for Technical Services (InPerson and/or TelePhone).
 
 At 05:27 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote:
 My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
 She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.
  
 This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her 
 phone, mine is still showing 7.12.
  
 Why would this be?
  
 She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting to 
 the new unwanted update.
  
 I am a voiceover user.
  
 To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone load 
 the new ios update.
  
 This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
 Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not 
 work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft disability 
 support line to walk through removing the update because they understood the 
 negative effect on my screen reader.
  
 By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does not 
 have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.
  
 I think I like Microsoft's corporate policy better.
  
 Thoughts?
  
 David Gross
  
 
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Prismo manual and questions

2014-10-17 Thread Michelle Bernstein
This month's Access World has an article detailing the Prizmo app.

Michelle

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RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
iPad Mini Retina 3 did not get a camera or processor upgrade. It appears to be 
exactly the same except that the new iPad Mini has touch Id. I could be wrong, 
but I believe there used to be a 32 Gig version of the iPads before just as 
with the iPhone and that now Apple has dropped the 32 Gig size and you can only 
get a 16, 64 and 128 Gb iPad. The good thing is that now a 64 Gb costs as much 
as a 32 Gb last year and  in the case of the iPad 2 (the one from last year) 
it's actually $100 cheaper.
Even the new iPad Air pricing has come down by $100 so a 64 Gb iPad Air 2 now 
with A8X chip, 8 MP camera and Touch Id is $600. Not bad and I bet there will 
be retailers where you might even get a slightly better deal or other incentive 
if you buy one and there is probably  an even better chance to get a deal on 
one of last year's iPad Minis if retailers want to reduce stock..


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
RobH.
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Think the processor and cameras are upgraded too.

Nothing but the latest iMac grabs me,  and not sure something that big 
should be that thin in  case I bend it in my pants pocket.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:26 PM
Subject: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?


Hi all,

I just ran over to the Apple store website to compare the Mini 2  3.  If I 
am reading things correctly, the only change is the addition of fingerprint 
security?

For a minut, I thought the Mini 3 had upgraded wi-fi signals, but I’m not 
sure.  They both say Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel (2.4GHz and 
5GHz) and MIMO.  iPad2 says, Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel (2.4GHz 
and 5GHz) and MIMO.

Lol, that’s the same, correct?  The iPad3 spacificly mentions 2 wi-fi 
antennas, where I cannot find those words for the 2nd Gen retina model.

Anyway, what do you guys know about the differences in the 2 models?

Thanks,
Traci

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RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Russ,

If I were you I'd wait a year unless there is something wrong with your current 
iPad Mini. Yes, the iPad Mini Retina gives you a retina screen (probably not 
important for you) and it will give you the A7 processor which will give you a 
bit better speed. However, unless you really feel you need Alex which in my 
opinion sounds less clear than the default high quality female voice, why not 
get a third year out of your device and then upgrade next year when there will 
be some real changes. Just my thought on this.


Regards,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

I'll probably get the ipad mini 2 instead of the ipad mini 3.  As of now, I 
have the first generation ipad mini.  In my case, updating to the ipad mini 
2 will be an upgrade of hardware.

-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Somebody else just posted stating that the processor in the mini has not 
been updated. If that is true, my original statement stands. Why the hell by 
the new one? Take advantage of the price drop and get the old one.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip.



 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hello,
 Yes. It’s the A8X chip.

 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com 
 wrote:

 Did I miss something?  Didn't they put in the new chip that is in the 
 iPhone 6?
 They have also dropped the price points so for $499 you can get the 16 
 GB WiFi, $599 you can get the 64 GB 'wiFi model and for $699, the 128 
 GB.
 .

 Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cristóbal
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:40 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

 The new Mini will be available in gold and have the touch ID sensor. 
 Other then that, it's the same device.
 You're better off grabbing last year's model if those two features 
 aren't important to you.
 I guess the other thing that is a plus is that pricing seems to be 
 headed down. With the lack of a 32GB model, the 64 and 128 GB devices 
 are $100.00 cheaper pushing the older versions down too. By offering the 
 16 GB iPads at the same introductory price, it's like Apple wants you to 
 just buy the larger storage options instead.
 I guess if you're into the enhanced photo and video aspects with the new 
 Air 2, the new versions may be interesting, but  all in all, 
 underwhelming.
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Traci Duncan
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

 Hi all,

 I just ran over to the Apple store website to compare the Mini 2  3. 
 If I am reading things correctly, the only change is the addition of 
 fingerprint security?

 For a minut, I thought the Mini 3 had upgraded wi-fi signals, but I’m 
 not sure.  They both say Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel (2.4GHz 
 and 5GHz) and MIMO.  iPad2 says, Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel 
 (2.4GHz and 5GHz) and MIMO.

 Lol, that’s the same, correct?  The iPad3 spacificly mentions 2 wi-fi 
 antennas, where I cannot find those words for the 2nd Gen retina model.

 Anyway, what do you guys know about the differences in the 2 models?

 Thanks,
 Traci

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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-17 Thread Alan Paganelli
It will depend on your needs.  If you are going to be out and about all day 
long and require a GPS system, then you would be better off with a Trekker and 
save your battery power for your iPhone.  The GPS in the iPhone will really 
suck up the battery.  On the other hand, if you just want a GPS app for just in 
case, then an iPhone GPS app will probably due.  The Trekker however uses maps 
with more points of interest then some of the GPS apps and offers announcement 
of each street your passing by such as Jones street on your left or 3 way 
crossing.  Jones street on your left, Smith road in front and Jones street on 
your right.  This tells you that Jones street runs left and right and it 
assumes you know the street your already on.  Far more detailed then many 
iPhone apps.  So again, it will depend on your needs which way will be the best.


Regards,

Alan

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  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:45 PM
  Subject: trekker vs. apps?


  I was surprised to find out today that Humanware still makes 
a hand held version of the trekker breeze. I thought in this era of smart phone 
apps Trekker was extinct.

   

  It may be an unfair question, but how do any of the Iphone gps apps compare 
to the current Trekker?


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RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Wow, I'd take that in a minute considering that a new iPad Mini Retina which I 
assume will now also come in 16, 64 and 128 Gb costs $299 and a new iPad Mini 3 
64 Gb is $399, for what you would get and an extra $175 you could upgrade from 
32 to 64 Gb and get Touch Id, definitely worth considering.

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Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

I got an offer for $225 for my iPad Mini with Retina 32GB wi-fi. So, if I can't 
sell mine elsewhere I'll do the Gazelle offer.

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On 10/17/2014 9:25 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 Well, I'm of two minds. The Touch ID would seem to offer a lot more 
 security. I've had a device stolen before, so maybe I'm a little 
 tetchy on this one, but that might be a reason for me to buy the newest Mini.

 Teresa

 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and 
 seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com 
 mailto:motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 Somebody else just posted stating that the processor in the mini has 
 not been updated. If that is true, my original statement stands. Why 
 the hell by the new one? Take advantage of the price drop and get the 
 old one.
 Mary


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com 
 mailto:our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip.



 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com 
 mailto:ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hello,
 Yes. It’s the A8X chip.

 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com 
 mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote:

 Did I miss something?  Didn't they put in the new chip that is in 
 the iPhone 6?
 They have also dropped the price points so for $499 you can get 
 the
 16 GB WiFi, $599 you can get the 64 GB 'wiFi model and for $699, 
 the 128 GB.
 .

 Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:40 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

 The new Mini will be available in gold and have the touch ID 
 sensor. Other then that, it's the same device.
 You're better off grabbing last year's model if those two features 
 aren't important to you.
 I guess the other thing that is a plus is that pricing seems to be 
 headed down. With the lack of a 32GB model, the 64 and 128 GB 
 devices are $100.00 cheaper pushing the older versions down too. 
 By offering the 16 GB iPads at the same introductory price, it's 
 like Apple wants you to just buy the larger storage options instead.
 I guess if you're into the enhanced photo and video aspects with 
 the new Air 2, the new versions may be interesting, but  all in 
 all, underwhelming.
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

 Hi all,

 I just ran over to the Apple store website to compare the Mini 2  
 3.  If I am reading things correctly, the only change is the 
 addition of fingerprint security?

 For a minut, I thought the Mini 3 had upgraded wi-fi signals, but 
 I’m not sure.  They both say Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual 
 channel (2.4GHz and 5GHz) and MIMO.  iPad2 says, Wi‑Fi 
 (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel (2.4GHz and 5GHz) and MIMO.

 Lol, that’s the same, correct?  The iPad3 spacificly mentions 2 
 wi-fi antennas, where I cannot find those words for the 2nd Gen 
 retina model.

 Anyway, what do you guys know about the differences in the 2 models?

 Thanks,
 Traci

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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-17 Thread Alan Paganelli
The other huge advantage was, you could choose which GPS receiver you wanted 
and weren't stuck with what they gave you.



Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard PDA 
many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the iPhone, 
I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The one thing 
that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk a Route. 
This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the town. I sat 
in my house and just basically .walk around town learning where everything 
was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't honestly 
evaluate which is better.


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RE: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Donna,

 

Automatic updates refers to apps only, it will not automatically upgrade to iOS 
8. In fact, if iOS 8 is in fact installed and not just downloaded to her device 
she or somebody else must have done this deliberately since you have to agree 
to Apple’s terms and conditions twice before the install actually starts. 
Sorry, but that’s a definite and it will not install automatically.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

 

Hi

 

Perhaps she has automatic updates turned on? This can be found and turned off 
by going to Settings, iTunes and App Store. 

 

With automatic updates turned on Apple forces the update to your device. I 
don't think that the update is installed unless she accepts the Terms  
Conditions Agreement. I could be incorrect on this. I know that I noticed that 
automatic updates was turned on and updating began on my son's iPod when I 
plugged in the iPod. I was able to stop the process by unplugging the iPod and 
turning off automatic updates. 

 

Donna


On Oct 17, 2014, at 8:27 AM, David Gross david.dgro...@gmail.com 
mailto:david.dgro...@gmail.com  wrote:

My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.

She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.

 

This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her phone, 
mine is still showing 7.12.

 

Why would this be?

 

She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting to 
the new unwanted update.

 

I am a voiceover user.

 

To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone load the 
new ios update.

 

This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, Microsoft 
pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not work well with 
i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft disability support line to 
walk through removing the update because they understood the negative effect on 
my screen reader.

 

By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does not 
have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.

 

I think I like Microsoft’s corporate policy better.

 

Thoughts?

 

David Gross

 

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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
The agreement comes in on the install screen. I think there's a way to delete 
the download in Settings, General, usage, is there not?

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 On Oct 17, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I don't understand how they could be pushed through when you have to agree to 
 the terms to get it.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Robin robin-mel...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I was under the presumption that Apple doesn't CHARGE for its Services so 
 long as you have purchased its AppleCare, but I could be WRONG. If anyone 
 knows, feel free to correct me.
 
 It's just a different policy between Microsoft  Apple on whether or not to 
 CHARGE for Technical Services (InPerson and/or TelePhone).
 
 At 05:27 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote:
 My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
 She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.
  
 This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her 
 phone, mine is still showing 7.12.
  
 Why would this be?
  
 She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting 
 to the new unwanted update.
  
 I am a voiceover user.
  
 To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone load 
 the new ios update.
  
 This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
 Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not 
 work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft 
 disability support line to walk through removing the update because they 
 understood the negative effect on my screen reader.
  
 By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does not 
 have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.
  
 I think I like Microsoft’s corporate policy better.
  
 Thoughts?
  
 David Gross
  
 
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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Joseph
Hello,
Teresa, that's correct.

On Oct 17, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 The agreement comes in on the install screen. I think there's a way to delete 
 the download in Settings, General, usage, is there not?
 
 Teresa
 
 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
 the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I don't understand how they could be pushed through when you have to agree 
 to the terms to get it.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Robin robin-mel...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I was under the presumption that Apple doesn't CHARGE for its Services so 
 long as you have purchased its AppleCare, but I could be WRONG. If anyone 
 knows, feel free to correct me.
 
 It's just a different policy between Microsoft  Apple on whether or not to 
 CHARGE for Technical Services (InPerson and/or TelePhone).
 
 At 05:27 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote:
 My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
 She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.
  
 This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her 
 phone, mine is still showing 7.12.
  
 Why would this be?
  
 She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting 
 to the new unwanted update.
  
 I am a voiceover user.
  
 To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone 
 load the new ios update.
  
 This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
 Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not 
 work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft 
 disability support line to walk through removing the update because they 
 understood the negative effect on my screen reader.
  
 By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does 
 not have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.
  
 I think I like Microsoft's corporate policy better.
  
 Thoughts?
  
 David Gross
  
 
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Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Russ Kiehne
The thing is, I haven't installed ios 8 on my first generation ipad mini. 
I'm wondering if it will make it run slower than it currently is with ios 7? 
I want to wait for the bugs to be worked out of ios 8.  When that happens, 
then I can see how much slower it is.  I would assume that the ipad mini 2 
will make a difference running ios 8.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Hi Russ,

If I were you I'd wait a year unless there is something wrong with your 
current iPad Mini. Yes, the iPad Mini Retina gives you a retina screen 
(probably not important for you) and it will give you the A7 processor which 
will give you a bit better speed. However, unless you really feel you need 
Alex which in my opinion sounds less clear than the default high quality 
female voice, why not get a third year out of your device and then upgrade 
next year when there will be some real changes. Just my thought on this.



Regards,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

I'll probably get the ipad mini 2 instead of the ipad mini 3.  As of now, I
have the first generation ipad mini.  In my case, updating to the ipad mini
2 will be an upgrade of hardware.

-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Somebody else just posted stating that the processor in the mini has not
been updated. If that is true, my original statement stands. Why the hell by
the new one? Take advantage of the price drop and get the old one.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip.




On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:

Hello,
Yes. It’s the A8X chip.


On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com
wrote:

Did I miss something?  Didn't they put in the new chip that is in the
iPhone 6?
They have also dropped the price points so for $499 you can get the 16
GB WiFi, $599 you can get the 64 GB 'wiFi model and for $699, the 128
GB.
.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

The new Mini will be available in gold and have the touch ID sensor.
Other then that, it's the same device.
You're better off grabbing last year's model if those two features
aren't important to you.
I guess the other thing that is a plus is that pricing seems to be
headed down. With the lack of a 32GB model, the 64 and 128 GB devices
are $100.00 cheaper pushing the older versions down too. By offering the
16 GB iPads at the same introductory price, it's like Apple wants you to
just buy the larger storage options instead.
I guess if you're into the enhanced photo and video aspects with the new
Air 2, the new versions may be interesting, but  all in all,
underwhelming.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Hi all,

I just ran over to the Apple store website to compare the Mini 2  3.
If I am reading things correctly, the only change is the addition of
fingerprint security?

For a minut, I thought the Mini 3 had upgraded wi-fi signals, but I’m
not sure.  They both say Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel (2.4GHz
and 5GHz) and MIMO.  iPad2 says, Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel
(2.4GHz and 5GHz) and MIMO.

Lol, that’s the same, correct?  The iPad3 spacificly mentions 2 wi-fi
antennas, where I cannot find those words for the 2nd Gen retina model.

Anyway, what do you guys know about the differences in the 2 models?

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: apple pushing through mandatory iOS 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Alex Hall
It will download the latest one, and if that matches the one already on the 
phone, I'm not sure if it will download again or not. Either way, the copy on 
your device will be deleted once the update is complete.
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 OK, Question on this. I assume I have the latest update on my phone, but I
 have not installed it. So, what if when I am ready to install, I do it
 through iTunes. Does it use the update that is on my phone, or does it
 download a later one if one exists? If it downloads a newer one, does it
 delete the older one off my phone?
 
 Neal
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:11 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?
 
 You can control whether your apps update automatically, but iOS updates are
 a bit different. They will automatically download, but you can choose
 whether or not you want to install them. You can delete the update but it
 will download again at some point. If you don't want to install it, then
 just know that whenever you go to General in Settings, 1 item will also
 show up. This is the current iOS 8 update that you can choose to install or
 not.
 
 Hth,
 Wayne
 
 On 10/17/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 App Store updates are automatic, but iOS8 will not install without the 
 user's permission. It may download, but unless the user allows the 
 process to continue, it will just wait until the user updates. Zoom is 
 different, but to get the old method back, just go to Zoom's settings 
 and choose full screen from the Zoom type near the bottom. The new 
 method is one a lot of people seem to like - a square, inside of which 
 is zoomed content. For some, this is a far superior method, but others 
 like the old style, and now there is a choice between the two.
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 Perhaps she has automatic updates turned on? This can be found and 
 turned off by going to Settings, iTunes and App Store.
 
 With automatic updates turned on Apple forces the update to your 
 device. I don't think that the update is installed unless she accepts 
 the Terms  Conditions Agreement. I could be incorrect on this. I 
 know that I noticed that automatic updates was turned on and updating 
 began on my son's iPod when I plugged in the iPod. I was able to stop 
 the process by unplugging the iPod and turning off automatic updates.
 
 Donna
 
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 8:27 AM, David Gross david.dgro...@gmail.com 
 mailto:david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
 She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.
 
 This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on 
 her phone, mine is still showing 7.12.
 
 Why would this be?
 
 She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty 
 adapting to the new unwanted update.
 
 I am a voiceover user.
 
 To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that 
 everyone load the new ios update.
 
 This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
 Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which 
 does not work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the 
 Microsoft disability support line to walk through removing the 
 update because they understood the negative effect on my screen reader.
 
 By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife 
 does not have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.
 
 I think I like Microsoft's corporate policy better.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 David Gross
 
 
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Re: Question about west minster chime app

2014-10-17 Thread Robin Frost
Hi,
Yes as per the instructions which the app’s maker gives and which have been 
posted here previously if in notifications center one turns off all associated 
alert types to none while leaving only sounds on the app should not speak the 
time or cause the phone to vibrate unless one has vibrating settings set to be 
triggered by such events elsewhere in sounds for instance.
I hope this helps.
Robin


From: Bill Gallik 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Question about west minster chime app

One negative issue I have with the West Minster Chime app is that it announces 
the time -- if I wanted to be told the time I would not require the chimes.  
Can this be disabled?


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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:55 PM
  Subject: Question about west minster chime app


  Hi all,

  I got the west minster chimes app on my iPhone 5  and I've had this app for a 
few days now. I went to settings and to Notifications  center  and set my 
chimes to  sound off on the hour and half hour. I also have my chimes set to 
west minster  and the sound is turn on.

  My question is 
how do I know if I got my settings  right in notification center like it 
said to do before I downloaded this app?

  Also, I noticed on the hour the west minster chimes will chime on the hour 
and half hour  like I want it to do but when the hour comes around and the 
chimes start to chime my phone will also vibrate  is this supposed to do this 
or not? Just wanting to  make sure I have everything in the west minster chime 
app set like it should be. Thanks.

  Lori and the Gipper

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Re: Deleting Books from the Audible App: An Alternate Method

2014-10-17 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Sieghardd,
You know, I thought somewhere I had seen a listing of how many books were in my 
library, but I can't remember where. It might have been on the main site. As 
for the listening statistics, I have to confess, I don't really pay much 
attention to that. Although, I do remember when I switched devices a while 
back, I was momentarily mildly dismayed to find out that I was back at zero. I 
guess it just doesn't matter that much to me, but it does seem stupid that they 
don't back this information up, since it seems to be so important to them. All 
those badges you can earn etc.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 16, 2014, at 10:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 I can see something like this being useful. In the Audible app you can
 filter by Unfinished by going to the cloud tab, then double tap on All
 Titles and then pick Unfinished from the list of options. However, this
 still shows me a lot of books which I have read and which for some reason
 don't show as Finished. But it's better than nothing and hopefully others
 maybe request a better way to sort read from unread and there will be
 improvements with this. One other area which I think is silly is their
 listening statistics. If you ever get a new device, do a compelte restore or
 even delete Audible to reinstall it you always start out from scratch. I
 don't understand why they don't track total listening time from all your
 devices and back this up/sync to iCloud so that if you get a new device it
 will continue to add to your total. It should not be that hard to give
 people the ability to look at this information by device or as a total.
 It would also be nice if somewhere they showed how many books were in your
 library. 
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:02 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Deleting Books from the Audible App: An Alternate Method
 
 The old archive feature gave you three things. You had your machine. You had
 your active library list, then you had your archive. That way, when you had
 a whole lot of books, some of which you had not rent, you could see those in
 your active library list. And you wouldn't have to go through all those
 things that you had read to find things that you had not read. When you have
 a library that has many hundreds of books in it, it is kind of a big deal.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Mary,
 
 What's wrong with the cloud tab or library list?
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:52 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Deleting Books from the Audible App: An Alternate Method
 
 Back in the good old days, in the Stone Age, when audible was young, 
 they used to have an archive feature. That meant, if you read a book, 
 you could put it in your archive. You didn't lose access to it, but it 
 did not show up in your library list. Oh how I wish they would bring that
 back.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Lelia,
 
 The Cloud tab will show all books you ever purchased. It's basically 
 a view of your Audible Library and if you were able to delete them 
 you would no longer have access to these books.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of leliastr...@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Deleting Books from the Audible App: An Alternate Method
 
 Sieghard, you were right, I was on the cloud, your method worked
 perfectly.
 Is there a way to delete books you've already read from the cloud? Or 
 will that do that when you delete it from your device? Hope that made
 sense.
 Thank you by the way for your patience in explaining things
 
 Lelia
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Lelia,
 
 Make sure you are on the Device tab and not the Cloud tab. If a book 
 starts downloading that means it probably wasn't downloaded 
 completely before and you are just restarting the download. I cannot 
 reproduce this on my iPhone 5S and all I can repeat is that if I do 
 what I describe
 it works 100%.
 However, I just tried this again and if I double tap the top delete 
 button and then double tap refresh, it will not work for me if I 
 swipe to the Edit Mode button and double tap it then swipe back to 
 delete and
 double tap it.
 These buttons are not in order when you swipe because the delete 
 button comes first even though it's on the right side of the title 
 and then if you swipe right again you get to Edit mode which is on 
 the 

Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-17 Thread Alan Paganelli

So how often do you think the streets change?


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


For the most part, I would prefer a good and reliable app over having to
carry a second device which is usually extremely expensive.  While I do
have, and really like, the GPS utility for the Pac Mate that is sold by

www.freedomscientific.com

called street talk, the major drawbacks are the cost and the fact that
maps, although available from the Sendero Group, cannot be updated for the
Street Talk utility due to the Pac Mate firmware restrictions.  The maps
have not been updated since 2008.  To me, this is not acceptable,
considering the approximate $1,600 cost.  I feel very short changed.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


Cost is one obvious advantage in favor of apps. Also, how often is the
breeze updated? I don't know the answer to that question. But the product
has been out for quite a while. And I have no idea if humanware has been
good and faithful at keeping up the map data. I would be concerned about
that before making a purchase.
Mary


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On Oct 16, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:

I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard 
PDA many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the 
iPhone, I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The 
one thing that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk 
a Route.  This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the 
town. I sat in my house and just basically .walk around town learning 
where everything was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't 
honestly evaluate which is better.


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RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, it probably will make some difference, but then again as Apple refines iOS 
8 it may run more efficiently on the slightly older devices and it's not like 
your iPad is that old. And if you do buy an iPad Mini 3 and maybe you wait a 
couple more months then 9 or 10 months later iOS 9 comes out and the next 
generation ipad Mini will be announced which most definitely then will get the 
A8 or even the nnewest A9 chip and you are once again in the same boat where 
maybe iOS 9 will run better on the newest devices and so on. My Mom is running 
iOS 8 on an iPad 2, that is the original large iPad second generation which I 
believe has an A5 processor and while she is not using voiceover, iOS itself 
works just fine. Your ipad |Mini as far as I remember would have an A6 or A6x 
processor and iOS 8 should run fine on that. Apple may want you to buy a new 
device every year or every 2 years, but market studies show that especially 
with the ipad a lot of people are using them for much longer. 


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

The thing is, I haven't installed ios 8 on my first generation ipad mini. 
I'm wondering if it will make it run slower than it currently is with ios 7? 
I want to wait for the bugs to be worked out of ios 8.  When that happens, 
then I can see how much slower it is.  I would assume that the ipad mini 2 
will make a difference running ios 8.

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Hi Russ,

If I were you I'd wait a year unless there is something wrong with your 
current iPad Mini. Yes, the iPad Mini Retina gives you a retina screen 
(probably not important for you) and it will give you the A7 processor which 
will give you a bit better speed. However, unless you really feel you need 
Alex which in my opinion sounds less clear than the default high quality 
female voice, why not get a third year out of your device and then upgrade 
next year when there will be some real changes. Just my thought on this.


Regards,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

I'll probably get the ipad mini 2 instead of the ipad mini 3.  As of now, I
have the first generation ipad mini.  In my case, updating to the ipad mini
2 will be an upgrade of hardware.

-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Somebody else just posted stating that the processor in the mini has not
been updated. If that is true, my original statement stands. Why the hell by
the new one? Take advantage of the price drop and get the old one.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip.



 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hello,
 Yes. It’s the A8X chip.

 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com
 wrote:

 Did I miss something?  Didn't they put in the new chip that is in the
 iPhone 6?
 They have also dropped the price points so for $499 you can get the 16
 GB WiFi, $599 you can get the 64 GB 'wiFi model and for $699, the 128
 GB.
 .

 Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Cristóbal
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:40 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

 The new Mini will be available in gold and have the touch ID sensor.
 Other then that, it's the same device.
 You're better off grabbing last year's model if those two features
 aren't important to you.
 I guess the other thing that is a plus is that pricing seems to be
 headed down. With the lack of a 32GB model, the 64 and 128 GB devices
 are $100.00 cheaper pushing the older versions down too. By offering the
 16 GB iPads at the same introductory price, it's like Apple wants you to
 just buy the larger storage options instead.
 I guess if you're into the enhanced photo and video aspects with the new
 Air 2, the new versions may be interesting, but  all in all,
 underwhelming.
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Traci Duncan
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

 Hi all,

 I just ran over to the Apple store website to compare the Mini 2  3.
 If I am reading things correctly, the only change is the addition of
 fingerprint security?

 For a minut, I thought the Mini 3 had upgraded wi-fi signals, but I’m
 

Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-17 Thread Alan Paganelli
I guess I'm lucky in that I still have my Maestro Trekker and my Trekker 
breeze.  Although Humanware no longer supports the Maestro Trekker and 
hasn't for some time, the streets haven't changed in Las Vegas or at least 
where I live.  I last used the Trekker/Maestro 6 or so months back to get to 
my doctor's appointment.  He's around 20 miles from me.  I was looking for 
his address in Maestro and found a previous route I had created.  My sighted 
wife followed the instructions I was giving her from Maestro.  One thing it 
can do is previous and next instruction so when she says what is the next 
instruction I can easily give her that information as well as to review the 
route with out even leaving the house.



Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Gail the U. S. Male gailcrowe1...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


no, you can't do the same thing with the Trekker Breeze.  I also had one of
those Maestro Trekkers, until it died on me.
- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard PDA
many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the iPhone,
I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The one thing
that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk a Route.
This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the town. I sat
in my house and just basically .walk around town learning where everything
was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't honestly
evaluate which is better.

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Re: All of my five phone list emails or at least most of them seem to be going to my junk mailbox including ones I send

2014-10-17 Thread 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone
I am having the same problem with my bellsouth mail which is powered by yahoo.  
Most of my mail from the lists is going to the junk folder.  Now, the only 
thing I can do is check my junk folder when I check my in box.  In fact, I get 
three times more messages in the junk folder.  

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 17, 2014, at 12:18 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Wren,
 
 I am using an iPhone 4, with iOS 7.0.6. I wasn't aware that many of the 
 different list serve emails were landing up in my junk folder. I also noticed 
 that there was a decrease in the number of emails downloading to my gmail 
 account on the phone. I went into the email account area and checked the junk 
 folder. You can probably guess what I found. I moved the emails back into the 
 inbox and that seemed to fix the problem for now. HTH.
 
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 not used to happen, but seems to be very recent. Is there a fix? Thank you 
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RE: Prismo manual and questions

2014-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Wayne,

Prizmo has some sort of page detection which I found was very difficult to
use but there is no feedback as to whether your phone is tilted or if your
text is straight. That is definitely the big benefit of KNFB Reader and I
think everybody who has used Prizmo and/or Text Grabber and now is using
|KNFB Reader would agree that it is expensive but that it is definitely the
best. I know David from New Zealand was very skeptical about it, but he has
bought it now as well and posted a few weeks ago that he also recommends it
and that he was impressed by its performance.
Have you checked Applevis? I seem to remember that at some point there was a
Prizmo Podcast.

Regards,
Sieghard
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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:19 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Prismo manual and questions

Greetings. With all of the talk about the KNFB Reader app, I had forgotten
that I had purchased Prismo a few years ago and then deleted it from my
phone. I downloaded it from my purchase history last night.
Does anyone know of a manual or documentation, other than what is in the
app, for using Prismo? I read over the help documentation in the app and
there's not much there. Partly I am wondering how the app will tell me that
the picture is straight or if I am the appropriate distance away from the
page. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
For those that have Prismo, has anyone tried it on an iPhone 6 or 6 Plus,
and if so, how has your experience been?

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Re: All of my five phone list emails or at least most of them seem to be going to my junk mailbox including ones I send

2014-10-17 Thread Terrie Arnold
move  one  of  each  of  your groups  emails  from the  junk  file  to  your 
inbox , had  this  as  well  andit  worked  you can  do the  reverse  
to  send  the  lot  of your emails  into  email  hell  instead of   
   setting  your mail  to  no  mail  too. than  just  reset it  to  
your inbox  when  you are  ready  to start  back  reading  your  mail
 Terrie 



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 viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 I am having the same problem with my bellsouth mail which is powered by 
 yahoo.  Most of my mail from the lists is going to the junk folder.  Now, the 
 only thing I can do is check my junk folder when I check my in box.  In fact, 
 I get three times more messages in the junk folder.  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 wrote:
 
 Hi Wren,
 
 I am using an iPhone 4, with iOS 7.0.6. I wasn't aware that many of the 
 different list serve emails were landing up in my junk folder. I also 
 noticed that there was a decrease in the number of emails downloading to my 
 gmail account on the phone. I went into the email account area and checked 
 the junk folder. You can probably guess what I found. I moved the emails 
 back into the inbox and that seemed to fix the problem for now. HTH.
 
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 not used to happen, but seems to be very recent. Is there a fix? Thank you 
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Re: Question about west minster chime app

2014-10-17 Thread Lori Dent
Hi Chris  and all,

Chris thank you  for telling me  what I need to turn off or leave on in the 
west minster chimes app in notification. Now I have  a few more questions about 
west minster chimes app and notifications center. When I double tap on the 
notification center  it lists all the apps I have in the notification center. 
Now do I go down and find my west minster app  and double tap on that which I 
did.  Now from this point is where I need assistance at.I never have done 
anything in the notification center before so I'm not sure how to turn off or 
leave on the required alerts or banners. Can you go through them with me one by 
one and tell me how to turn off or leave on the required alerts and banners  
and whatever else  in the west minster chimes app in notifications center. 

What does this mean alerts require an action before proceeding?Howdo I do an 
action to prceed? I'm confused about how to do these different things in the 
notification center for my apps. Please help. It would be very much 
appreciated. Thanks.

Lori and the Gipper

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RE: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Allen,

 

The Seeing Eye GPS app announces intersection  just like the Maestro or
Breeze do. I used to own a Maestro and later had MobileGeo which basically
is the same but was designed for the old Windows Mobile platform and one
thing I found even then when the information was updated was that a lot of
POI's that the Trekker announced were not actually correct or even there any
more. It seemed it was using outdated information even back then and given
how fast businesses change these days I would guess that in most cases the
POI information nowadays is pretty useless. I think here accessing online
maps which get updated much more often is the way to go.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?

 

It will depend on your needs.  If you are going to be out and about all day
long and require a GPS system, then you would be better off with a Trekker
and save your battery power for your iPhone.  The GPS in the iPhone will
really suck up the battery.  On the other hand, if you just want a GPS app
for just in case, then an iPhone GPS app will probably due.  The Trekker
however uses maps with more points of interest then some of the GPS apps and
offers announcement of each street your passing by such as Jones street on
your left or 3 way crossing.  Jones street on your left, Smith road in front
and Jones street on your right.  This tells you that Jones street runs left
and right and it assumes you know the street your already on.  Far more
detailed then many iPhone apps.  So again, it will depend on your needs
which way will be the best.

 

 

Regards,

 

Alan

 

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Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

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Subject: trekker vs. apps?

 

I was surprised to find out today that Humanware still makes
a hand held version of the trekker breeze. I thought in this era of smart
phone apps Trekker was extinct.

 

It may be an unfair question, but how do any of the Iphone gps apps compare
to the current Trekker?

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Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Mary Otten
Truth to tell, I still have an old iPad one, which I bought right when iPad 2 
came out. It has not been upgradable since iOS 5. But a lot of things still 
work on it. To be sure, it is rather sluggish by today's standards.  But it's 
great for reading books. All my book apps still run just fine. Even audible, 
which can't be updated, so I don't have the delete problem on that machine. 
Smile.
Mary


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 On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Yes, it probably will make some difference, but then again as Apple refines 
 iOS 8 it may run more efficiently on the slightly older devices and it's not 
 like your iPad is that old. And if you do buy an iPad Mini 3 and maybe you 
 wait a couple more months then 9 or 10 months later iOS 9 comes out and the 
 next generation ipad Mini will be announced which most definitely then will 
 get the A8 or even the nnewest A9 chip and you are once again in the same 
 boat where maybe iOS 9 will run better on the newest devices and so on. My 
 Mom is running iOS 8 on an iPad 2, that is the original large iPad second 
 generation which I believe has an A5 processor and while she is not using 
 voiceover, iOS itself works just fine. Your ipad |Mini as far as I remember 
 would have an A6 or A6x processor and iOS 8 should run fine on that. Apple 
 may want you to buy a new device every year or every 2 years, but market 
 studies show that especially with the ipad a lot of people are using them for 
 much longer. 
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Russ Kiehne
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:01 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 The thing is, I haven't installed ios 8 on my first generation ipad mini. 
 I'm wondering if it will make it run slower than it currently is with ios 7? 
 I want to wait for the bugs to be worked out of ios 8.  When that happens, 
 then I can see how much slower it is.  I would assume that the ipad mini 2 
 will make a difference running ios 8.
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 Hi Russ,
 
 If I were you I'd wait a year unless there is something wrong with your 
 current iPad Mini. Yes, the iPad Mini Retina gives you a retina screen 
 (probably not important for you) and it will give you the A7 processor which 
 will give you a bit better speed. However, unless you really feel you need 
 Alex which in my opinion sounds less clear than the default high quality 
 female voice, why not get a third year out of your device and then upgrade 
 next year when there will be some real changes. Just my thought on this.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Russ Kiehne
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:15 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 I'll probably get the ipad mini 2 instead of the ipad mini 3.  As of now, I
 have the first generation ipad mini.  In my case, updating to the ipad mini
 2 will be an upgrade of hardware.
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Mary Otten
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:46 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 Somebody else just posted stating that the processor in the mini has not
 been updated. If that is true, my original statement stands. Why the hell by
 the new one? Take advantage of the price drop and get the old one.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip.
 
 
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Yes. It’s the A8X chip.
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com
 wrote:
 
 Did I miss something?  Didn't they put in the new chip that is in the
 iPhone 6?
 They have also dropped the price points so for $499 you can get the 16
 GB WiFi, $599 you can get the 64 GB 'wiFi model and for $699, the 128
 GB.
 .
 
 Richard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Cristóbal
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:40 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 The new Mini will be available in gold and have the touch ID sensor.
 Other then that, it's the same device.
 You're better off grabbing last year's model if those two features
 aren't important to you.
 I guess the other thing that is a plus is that pricing seems to be
 headed down. With the lack of a 32GB model, the 64 and 128 GB devices
 are $100.00 cheaper pushing the older versions down too. By offering the
 16 GB iPads at the same introductory price, it's like Apple wants you to
 just buy the larger storage options instead.
 I guess if you're into the enhanced 

Re: rats! We must wait until Monday??

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
If I don't come home from the hospital until late Tuesday evening, there might 
be enough for me to read from this list that will determine whether to get the 
update or not.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:33 PM
  Subject: RE: rats! We must wait until Monday??


  Well, I guess if you have a break-down because you can't get iOS 8.1 2 
minutes after it comes out you'll be already at the hospital! When I hear about 
paying for a hospital visit I'm sure glad I live in a country with a health 
care system. Anyhow, after the iOS 8.0.1 fiasco it's maybe not a bad idea to 
wait a day or 2 with the update.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

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Charles Rivard
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:26 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: rats! We must wait until Monday??

   

  When I was in an emergency room with someone last week, I could not make 
phone calls.  I will be staying, temporarily, in that same hospital.  If they 
do have WiFi, I hope they don't dollar me to death, the way they do with 
everything else.  They don't mess with change, just bills, bills, and more 
bills.  They send you theirs, and take all of yours.  (grin)


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:50 PM

Subject: Re: rats! We must wait until Monday??

 

Hello, there should be no worry, most hospitals have Wi-Fi. So you will be 
able to do the update if you have your phone.

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  I O S 8.1 won't be available until Monday.  Even worse, I'll be going 
into the hospital on Monday afternoon and will probably be there for a day or 
so.  It's not major, so I'm not worried.  But, darnit, we don't get the update 
yet.  Let's hope that a lot of the VoiceOver bugs have been worked out!


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To upgrade or not to upgrade, was: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Mary,

I find it interesting how some people still have PC's running Windows XP and 
Jaws 10 which means said PC is probably 5+ years old, but in some cases the 
same people feel they have to upgrade a 2-year old iPhone or iPad or in some 
cases even a 1-year old device. We are definitely taught that consuming and 
spending is the way to go and for the last 10 or 15 years kids grow up like 
that. Many things are made as throw-away items (printers are a good example) 
and companies understand very well how to get people to fix things which aren't 
really broken. I bought my Mom's iPad 2 for her and if I suggested now that 
maybe she should upgrade to the latest iPad Air 2 because it was faster, 
thinner, lighter and had touch Id she would just ask me why she would want to 
do that since her iPad works perfectly well for what she does. She is of course 
correct.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Truth to tell, I still have an old iPad one, which I bought right when iPad 2 
came out. It has not been upgradable since iOS 5. But a lot of things still 
work on it. To be sure, it is rather sluggish by today's standards.  But it's 
great for reading books. All my book apps still run just fine. Even audible, 
which can't be updated, so I don't have the delete problem on that machine. 
Smile.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Yes, it probably will make some difference, but then again as Apple refines 
 iOS 8 it may run more efficiently on the slightly older devices and it's not 
 like your iPad is that old. And if you do buy an iPad Mini 3 and maybe you 
 wait a couple more months then 9 or 10 months later iOS 9 comes out and the 
 next generation ipad Mini will be announced which most definitely then will 
 get the A8 or even the nnewest A9 chip and you are once again in the same 
 boat where maybe iOS 9 will run better on the newest devices and so on. My 
 Mom is running iOS 8 on an iPad 2, that is the original large iPad second 
 generation which I believe has an A5 processor and while she is not using 
 voiceover, iOS itself works just fine. Your ipad |Mini as far as I remember 
 would have an A6 or A6x processor and iOS 8 should run fine on that. Apple 
 may want you to buy a new device every year or every 2 years, but market 
 studies show that especially with the ipad a lot of people are using them for 
 much longer. 
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Russ Kiehne
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:01 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 The thing is, I haven't installed ios 8 on my first generation ipad mini. 
 I'm wondering if it will make it run slower than it currently is with ios 7? 
 I want to wait for the bugs to be worked out of ios 8.  When that happens, 
 then I can see how much slower it is.  I would assume that the ipad mini 2 
 will make a difference running ios 8.
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 Hi Russ,
 
 If I were you I'd wait a year unless there is something wrong with your 
 current iPad Mini. Yes, the iPad Mini Retina gives you a retina screen 
 (probably not important for you) and it will give you the A7 processor which 
 will give you a bit better speed. However, unless you really feel you need 
 Alex which in my opinion sounds less clear than the default high quality 
 female voice, why not get a third year out of your device and then upgrade 
 next year when there will be some real changes. Just my thought on this.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Russ Kiehne
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:15 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 I'll probably get the ipad mini 2 instead of the ipad mini 3.  As of now, I
 have the first generation ipad mini.  In my case, updating to the ipad mini
 2 will be an upgrade of hardware.
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Mary Otten
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:46 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
 
 Somebody else just posted stating that the processor in the mini has not
 been updated. If that is true, my original statement stands. Why the hell by
 the new one? Take advantage of the price drop and get the old one.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip.
 
 
 
 On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Yes. It’s 

Re: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.

2014-10-17 Thread David

go into account settings, and you can turn it off.

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Subject: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.


Hi all,
As some of you probably remember, I had to put my phone in for repair
recently.  and since it has been returned to me, when playing Dice World, I
constantly get the following annoying alert.

Would you like to watch a video for one gold?.  This happens everytime I
have taken my turn. but has only happened since my phone has come back from
the repair center.

Anyone got any ideas as to how I can get rid of this pest? LOL!.

Best regards,

Del


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Re: Question about west minster chime app

2014-10-17 Thread Bill Gallik
Yes, had I just been a bit more patient and read through subsequent e-mail 
responses to this thread I would have realized the resolution to my issues!

Holland's Boy, Bill
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- US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
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  From: Robin Frost 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:13 AM
  Subject: Re: Question about west minster chime app


  Hi,
  Yes as per the instructions which the app’s maker gives and which have been 
posted here previously if in notifications center one turns off all associated 
alert types to none while leaving only sounds on the app should not speak the 
time or cause the phone to vibrate unless one has vibrating settings set to be 
triggered by such events elsewhere in sounds for instance.
  I hope this helps.
  Robin


  From: Bill Gallik 
  Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:00 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Question about west minster chime app

  One negative issue I have with the West Minster Chime app is that it 
announces the time -- if I wanted to be told the time I would not require the 
chimes.  Can this be disabled?

  
  Holland's Boy, Bill
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  - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
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From: Lori Dent 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:55 PM
Subject: Question about west minster chime app


Hi all,

I got the west minster chimes app on my iPhone 5  and I've had this app for 
a few days now. I went to settings and to Notifications  center  and set my 
chimes to  sound off on the hour and half hour. I also have my chimes set to 
west minster  and the sound is turn on.

My question is 
  how do I know if I got my settings  right in notification center like it 
said to do before I downloaded this app?

Also, I noticed on the hour the west minster chimes will chime on the hour 
and half hour  like I want it to do but when the hour comes around and the 
chimes start to chime my phone will also vibrate  is this supposed to do this 
or not? Just wanting to  make sure I have everything in the west minster chime 
app set like it should be. Thanks.

Lori and the Gipper

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ipad mini 2 questions

2014-10-17 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona

Hello I was wondering will the ipad 2 mini run ios 8?
and is that the one that is 249.00?
Hank

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Re: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
Actually, in my opinion, it is not a pest.  It's a good way to increase your 
supply of gold.  However, you can make the change you're looking for in the 
app settings.  There is also a setting to turn off whether or not you get 
advertisements of inaccessible apps.


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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:16 AM
Subject: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.


Hi all,
As some of you probably remember, I had to put my phone in for repair
recently.  and since it has been returned to me, when playing Dice World, I
constantly get the following annoying alert.

Would you like to watch a video for one gold?.  This happens everytime I
have taken my turn. but has only happened since my phone has come back from
the repair center.

Anyone got any ideas as to how I can get rid of this pest? LOL!.

Best regards,

Del


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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
The only reason this would be is if someone manually did the update.  Apple 
does not force through an update to a new operating system.  You must 
physically agree to do so twice before any firmware update is done.  The only 
thing that you may get is a notification that there is an update if you want it.

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  Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:27 AM
  Subject: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?


  My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.

  She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.

   

  This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her 
phone, mine is still showing 7.12.

   

  Why would this be?

   

  She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting to 
the new unwanted update.

   

  I am a voiceover user.

   

  To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone load 
the new ios update.

   

  This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not work 
well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft disability support 
line to walk through removing the update because they understood the negative 
effect on my screen reader.

   

  By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does not 
have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.

   

  I think I like Microsoft's corporate policy better.

   

  Thoughts?

   

  David Gross

   


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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
The streets themselves don't change much, but business locations, or whether 
they still exist, do change.  So, if I'm looking for a point of interest 
such as a seafood restaurant, and there are several, and I choose to go to 
one, it's really not good to get there and find a shoe store instead, or to 
find that the restaurant no longer exists.  It closed down 5 years ago. 
Also, routes from one city to another, or from one state to another that are 
plotted may no longer be feasible due to road construction or demolition 
within the last few years.


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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


So how often do you think the streets change?


Regards,

Alan

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


For the most part, I would prefer a good and reliable app over having to
carry a second device which is usually extremely expensive.  While I do
have, and really like, the GPS utility for the Pac Mate that is sold by

www.freedomscientific.com

called street talk, the major drawbacks are the cost and the fact that
maps, although available from the Sendero Group, cannot be updated for the
Street Talk utility due to the Pac Mate firmware restrictions.  The maps
have not been updated since 2008.  To me, this is not acceptable,
considering the approximate $1,600 cost.  I feel very short changed.

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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


Cost is one obvious advantage in favor of apps. Also, how often is the
breeze updated? I don't know the answer to that question. But the product
has been out for quite a while. And I have no idea if humanware has been
good and faithful at keeping up the map data. I would be concerned about
that before making a purchase.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:

I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard 
PDA many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the 
iPhone, I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The 
one thing that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk 
a Route.  This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the 
town. I sat in my house and just basically .walk around town learning 
where everything was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't 
honestly evaluate which is better.


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thoughts on VoiceOver and 8.1 - Re: rats! We must wait until Monday??

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
What indicates that there won't be any VoiceOver fixes?  I listened to the 
presentation, and it was mentioned that there were several bug reports made, 
and that there are improvements.  While it is true that VoiceOver was not 
specifically mentioned, neither was anything else.  I think my tag line is 
appropriate for your your attitude on this.  Why take the defeatist attitude 
with nothing to go on?  Why assume the worst?

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:46 AM
  Subject: Re: rats! We must wait until Monday??


  Well, I know I sound like a wet blanket, but 8.1 is pushing some new 
features, so it will surprise me if much extensive work has been done with 
Voiceover. I certainly hope for it, though.


  Teresa

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the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

  On Oct 16, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


Well, I guess if you have a break-down because you can’t get iOS 8.1 2 
minutes after it comes out you’ll be already at the hospital! When I hear about 
paying for a hospital visit I’m sure glad I live in a country with a health 
care system. Anyhow, after the iOS 8.0.1 fiasco it’s maybe not a bad idea to 
wait a day or 2 with the update.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: rats! We must wait until Monday??



When I was in an emergency room with someone last week, I could not make 
phone calls.  I will be staying, temporarily, in that same hospital.  If they 
do have WiFi, I hope they don't dollar me to death, the way they do with 
everything else.  They don't mess with change, just bills, bills, and more 
bills.  They send you theirs, and take all of yours.  (grin)


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  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:50 PM

  Subject: Re: rats! We must wait until Monday??



  Hello, there should be no worry, most hospitals have Wi-Fi. So you will 
be able to do the update if you have your phone.

  On Oct 16, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:





I O S 8.1 won't be available until Monday.  Even worse, I'll be going 
into the hospital on Monday afternoon and will probably be there for a day or 
so.  It's not major, so I'm not worried.  But, darnit, we don't get the update 
yet.  Let's hope that a lot of the VoiceOver bugs have been worked out!


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Re: To upgrade or not to upgrade, was: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
I sure wish Microsoft thought this way when it comes to operating system 
support.


I did upgrade from an iPhone 4 to an iPhone 5 in order to get Siri, and am 
still using the same phone.  I'm thinking that, when I get the money, I may 
upgrade to a 6 plus for better battery life, but that's not going to happen 
for a while.  I also plan to get the KNFB reader because of how well it does 
what it does, but that, too, is down the road.  The only complaint I have 
about my current phone is that it is a 16 gig model.  I sure wish we could 
use thumb drives.  Well, maybe I should rephrase that, because we can get 
external storage devices for iPhones, but the price is far too high for my 
liking.


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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:54 AM
Subject: To upgrade or not to upgrade, was: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?


Mary,

I find it interesting how some people still have PC's running Windows XP and 
Jaws 10 which means said PC is probably 5+ years old, but in some cases the 
same people feel they have to upgrade a 2-year old iPhone or iPad or in some 
cases even a 1-year old device. We are definitely taught that consuming and 
spending is the way to go and for the last 10 or 15 years kids grow up like 
that. Many things are made as throw-away items (printers are a good example) 
and companies understand very well how to get people to fix things which 
aren't really broken. I bought my Mom's iPad 2 for her and if I suggested 
now that maybe she should upgrade to the latest iPad Air 2 because it was 
faster, thinner, lighter and had touch Id she would just ask me why she 
would want to do that since her iPad works perfectly well for what she does. 
She is of course correct.



Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mary Otten

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Truth to tell, I still have an old iPad one, which I bought right when iPad 
2 came out. It has not been upgradable since iOS 5. But a lot of things 
still work on it. To be sure, it is rather sluggish by today's standards. 
But it's great for reading books. All my book apps still run just fine. Even 
audible, which can't be updated, so I don't have the delete problem on that 
machine. Smile.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Yes, it probably will make some difference, but then again as Apple 
refines iOS 8 it may run more efficiently on the slightly older devices 
and it's not like your iPad is that old. And if you do buy an iPad Mini 3 
and maybe you wait a couple more months then 9 or 10 months later iOS 9 
comes out and the next generation ipad Mini will be announced which most 
definitely then will get the A8 or even the nnewest A9 chip and you are 
once again in the same boat where maybe iOS 9 will run better on the 
newest devices and so on. My Mom is running iOS 8 on an iPad 2, that is 
the original large iPad second generation which I believe has an A5 
processor and while she is not using voiceover, iOS itself works just 
fine. Your ipad |Mini as far as I remember would have an A6 or A6x 
processor and iOS 8 should run fine on that. Apple may want you to buy a 
new device every year or every 2 years, but market studies show that 
especially with the ipad a lot of people are using them for much longer.



Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

The thing is, I haven't installed ios 8 on my first generation ipad mini.
I'm wondering if it will make it run slower than it currently is with ios 
7?

I want to wait for the bugs to be worked out of ios 8.  When that happens,
then I can see how much slower it is.  I would assume that the ipad mini 2
will make a difference running ios 8.

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Hi Russ,

If I were you I'd wait a year unless there is something wrong with your
current iPad Mini. Yes, the iPad Mini Retina gives you a retina screen
(probably not important for you) and it will give you the A7 processor 
which

will give you a bit better speed. However, unless you really feel you need
Alex which in my opinion sounds less clear than the default high quality
female voice, why not get a third year out of your device and then upgrade
next year when there will be some real changes. Just my thought on this.


Regards,

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Re: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.

2014-10-17 Thread Bluesman02
Hi Alex, 

Many thanks for the response to my question.  I have found the option you 
alluded too, so lets see if that has solved the problem. 

Thanks again. 

Best regards, 

Del

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  Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 2:31 PM
  Subject: Re: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.


  There's a setting for that. I don't remember the exact text, but it's 
something about prompting for gold videos. You'll know it when you see it, and 
it's right in the app's settings.

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Hi all,
As some of you probably remember, I had to put my phone in for repair 
recently.  and since it has been returned to me, when playing Dice World, I 
constantly get the following annoying alert.

Would you like to watch a video for one gold?.  This happens everytime I 
have taken my turn. but has only happened since my phone has come back from the 
repair center.

Anyone got any ideas as to how I can get rid of this pest? LOL!.

Best regards,

Del 

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Re: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.

2014-10-17 Thread Bluesman02

Thanks Dave.

Best regards,

Del

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go into account settings, and you can turn it off.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:16 PM
Subject: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.


Hi all,
As some of you probably remember, I had to put my phone in for repair
recently.  and since it has been returned to me, when playing Dice World, I
constantly get the following annoying alert.

Would you like to watch a video for one gold?.  This happens everytime I
have taken my turn. but has only happened since my phone has come back from
the repair center.

Anyone got any ideas as to how I can get rid of this pest? LOL!.

Best regards,

Del


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Re: Prismo manual and questions

2014-10-17 Thread Richard Turner
Here is the article Michelle mentioned.
I find their comment about the price of Prizmo very funny. I can't wait to see 
them review KNFB Reader.

Check out this article from AW:

The Giraffe Reader Scanner Stand and the Prizmo Scanning App for iOS 

http://afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?aDocID=aw151005 
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 This month's Access World has an article detailing the Prizmo app.
 
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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
Apple does download the update to your phone. Then you have to approve in order 
to install it. So it does remain on your device unless you remove it, at which 
point I'm unclear as to whether it redownloads. But it won't install 
automatically.

Teresa

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 The only reason this would be is if someone manually did the update.  Apple 
 does not force through an update to a new operating system.  You must 
 physically agree to do so twice before any firmware update is done.  The only 
 thing that you may get is a notification that there is an update if you want 
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 Subject: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?
 
 My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
 She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.
  
 This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her 
 phone, mine is still showing 7.12.
  
 Why would this be?
  
 She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting to 
 the new unwanted update.
  
 I am a voiceover user.
  
 To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone load 
 the new ios update.
  
 This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
 Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not 
 work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft disability 
 support line to walk through removing the update because they understood the 
 negative effect on my screen reader.
  
 By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does not 
 have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.
  
 I think I like Microsoft’s corporate policy better.
  
 Thoughts?
  
 David Gross
  
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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
It does not download anything onto your phone unless you by agreement, allow it 
to do so.

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  Subject: Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?


  Apple does download the update to your phone. Then you have to approve in 
order to install it. So it does remain on your device unless you remove it, at 
which point I'm unclear as to whether it redownloads. But it won't install 
automatically.


  Teresa

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the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

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The only reason this would be is if someone manually did the update.  Apple 
does not force through an update to a new operating system.  You must 
physically agree to do so twice before any firmware update is done.  The only 
thing that you may get is a notification that there is an update if you want it.

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:27 AM
  Subject: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?


  My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.

  She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.



  This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her 
phone, mine is still showing 7.12.



  Why would this be?



  She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting 
to the new unwanted update.



  I am a voiceover user.



  To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone 
load the new ios update.



  This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not work 
well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft disability support 
line to walk through removing the update because they understood the negative 
effect on my screen reader.



  By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does 
not have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.



  I think I like Microsoft’s corporate policy better.



  Thoughts?



  David Gross




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RE: ipad mini 2 questions

2014-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
The $249 iPad Mini is the first generation in a 16 Gb version. I don't 
know why anybody would not spend $50 more and buy an iPad Mini Retina or, I 
guess now it's the iPad Mini 2, because it has the A7 64 bit processor as well 
as a Retina screen. This may not be important for you, but if you ever were to 
sell it that would probably get you your $50 back. Of course \I think it's even 
better to save up a bit longer and spend $399 for a 64 Gig iPad Mini 2. At 
least then you won't regret not getting more storage space and with apps 
getting bigger 16 Gb is not that much as it only leaves you around 12 Gb. If 
you wanted to use the Alex voice you could not do so on the original iPad Mini, 
but you can on the iPad Mini 2. Of course Alex by itself is almost 1 Gb.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: ipad mini 2 questions

Hello I was wondering will the ipad 2 mini run ios 8?
and is that the one that is 249.00?
Hank

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Re: ipad mini 2 questions

2014-10-17 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
haven't been following the knfb thread but will the ipad mini 2 work 
with it?


On 10/17/2014 10:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

The $249 iPad Mini is the first generation in a 16 Gb version. I don't 
know why anybody would not spend $50 more and buy an iPad Mini Retina or, I 
guess now it's the iPad Mini 2, because it has the A7 64 bit processor as well 
as a Retina screen. This may not be important for you, but if you ever were to 
sell it that would probably get you your $50 back. Of course \I think it's even 
better to save up a bit longer and spend $399 for a 64 Gig iPad Mini 2. At 
least then you won't regret not getting more storage space and with apps 
getting bigger 16 Gb is not that much as it only leaves you around 12 Gb. If 
you wanted to use the Alex voice you could not do so on the original iPad Mini, 
but you can on the iPad Mini 2. Of course Alex by itself is almost 1 Gb.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Hello I was wondering will the ipad 2 mini run ios 8?
and is that the one that is 249.00?
Hank



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RE: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Alan Lemly
David, if your wife goes to Settings, General, About, and Version, does she
have iOS 8.0.2 listed there? As others have said, Apple will download the
latest iOS version to your  device so it is available for update but you
have to take specific action to authorize and install the update. In my
case, my Settings, General, Software Update shows one item available which
would be the most recent iOS 8.0.2 update. However, since I've not taken
action to install that update, my Settings, General, About, and Version
shows iOS 7.1.2.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

 

My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.

She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.

 

This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her
phone, mine is still showing 7.12.

 

Why would this be?

 

She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting to
the new unwanted update.

 

I am a voiceover user.

 

To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone load
the new ios update.

 

This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC,
Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not
work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft disability
support line to walk through removing the update because they understood the
negative effect on my screen reader.

 

By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does not
have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.

 

I think I like Microsoft's corporate policy better.

 

Thoughts?

 

David Gross

 

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RE: ipad mini 2 questions

2014-10-17 Thread Cristóbal
And if you go for one of Apple's refurbished iPad Minis, the intorductory 
prices start at $209.95 and $250.00 for last year's model. I'm sure that if you 
look hard enough, you'll find a cheaper deal, but for something directly from 
Apple and the one year Apple Care, that's a very solid deal. In fact, the most 
exciting thing out of yesterday's event is probably the reduced pricing on the 
older devices. 

I'd been waiting to see if a new Apple TV was going to be introduced, but since 
that didn't happne and most likely won't for a while now, I think I'll just go 
grab myself a refurb model from Apple for $75.00. Again, a very nice deal when 
you take everything into consideration.


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ipad mini 2 questions

The $249 iPad Mini is the first generation in a 16 Gb version. I don't 
know why anybody would not spend $50 more and buy an iPad Mini Retina or, I 
guess now it's the iPad Mini 2, because it has the A7 64 bit processor as well 
as a Retina screen. This may not be important for you, but if you ever were to 
sell it that would probably get you your $50 back. Of course \I think it's even 
better to save up a bit longer and spend $399 for a 64 Gig iPad Mini 2. At 
least then you won't regret not getting more storage space and with apps 
getting bigger 16 Gb is not that much as it only leaves you around 12 Gb. If 
you wanted to use the Alex voice you could not do so on the original iPad Mini, 
but you can on the iPad Mini 2. Of course Alex by itself is almost 1 Gb.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Hello I was wondering will the ipad 2 mini run ios 8?
and is that the one that is 249.00?
Hank

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Re: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.

2014-10-17 Thread Bluesman02

Each to his/her own my friend.

Best regards,

Del

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Subject: Re: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.


Actually, in my opinion, it is not a pest.  It's a good way to increase your
supply of gold.  However, you can make the change you're looking for in the
app settings.  There is also a setting to turn off whether or not you get
advertisements of inaccessible apps.

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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:16 AM
Subject: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.


Hi all,
As some of you probably remember, I had to put my phone in for repair
recently.  and since it has been returned to me, when playing Dice World, I
constantly get the following annoying alert.

Would you like to watch a video for one gold?.  This happens everytime I
have taken my turn. but has only happened since my phone has come back from
the repair center.

Anyone got any ideas as to how I can get rid of this pest? LOL!.

Best regards,

Del


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Re: ipad mini 2 questions

2014-10-17 Thread christopher hallsworth
iPad Mini 2 will run iOS 8 and will in fact come with it when you buy one 
starting at $299.00.

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Deleting a group that I created for text messaging

2014-10-17 Thread 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone
Hello everyone, I recently created a group text message with my two brothers 
and my sister.  Now, every time I go to text them, the group comes up first. 
Then I am able to find each one of their names separately. I would like to 
delete the group. How do I do that?

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Re: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.

2014-10-17 Thread David

don't forget to do the save settings after you have made your changes.

Dave.
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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.


Hi Alex,

Many thanks for the response to my question.  I have found the option you 
alluded too, so lets see if that has solved the problem.


Thanks again.

Best regards,

Del

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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 2:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Getting rid of an annoying dice World alert help needed!.


 There's a setting for that. I don't remember the exact text, but it's 
something about prompting for gold videos. You'll know it when you see it, 
and it's right in the app's settings.


   On Oct 17, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Bluesman02 bluesma...@ntlworld.com wrote:


   Hi all,
   As some of you probably remember, I had to put my phone in for repair 
recently.  and since it has been returned to me, when playing Dice World, I 
constantly get the following annoying alert.


   Would you like to watch a video for one gold?.  This happens everytime I 
have taken my turn. but has only happened since my phone has come back from 
the repair center.


   Anyone got any ideas as to how I can get rid of this pest? LOL!.

   Best regards,

   Del

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Re: Question about west minster chime app

2014-10-17 Thread christopher hallsworth
1. Settings.
2. Notifications.
3. Westminster Chimes.
4. Choose none next to select alert style.
For reference you do not change notification settings in Notification Centre.


Sent from my Macbook Pro

 On 17 Oct 2014, at 17:33, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote:
 
 Hi Chris  and all,
  
 Chris thank you  for telling me  what I need to turn off or leave on in the 
 west minster chimes app in notification. Now I have  a few more questions 
 about west minster chimes app and notifications center. When I double tap on 
 the notification center  it lists all the apps I have in the notification 
 center. Now do I go down and find my west minster app  and double tap on that 
 which I did.  Now from this point is where I need assistance at.I never 
 have done anything in the notification center before so I'm not sure how to 
 turn off or leave on the required alerts or banners. Can you go through them 
 with me one by one and tell me how to turn off or leave on the required 
 alerts and banners  and whatever else  in the west minster chimes app in 
 notifications center. 
  
 What does this mean alerts require an action before proceeding?Howdo I do an 
 action to prceed? I'm confused about how to do these different things in the 
 notification center for my apps. Please help. It would be very much 
 appreciated. Thanks.
  
 Lori and the Gipper
 
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settings app on iphone5s crashing when attempting to change mail sound IOS 8.0.2

2014-10-17 Thread Shai
Hello,
When I attempt to go to settings/sound/new mail sound and swipe past
the store option to vibration, I notice that the settings app on my
iPhone5s crashes and takes me back to the home screen.  Has anyone
else noticed this? Thinking that it was too many apps in the switcher,
I quit a few apps and also rebooted my phone but none of these
solutions worked.
 I also tried quitting the settings app itself in the switcher but
this did not resolve the problem either.
Thanks in advance for any responses

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Re: Question about west minster chime app

2014-10-17 Thread Robin Frost
Hi,
You’re almost there really close in fact.  Once you tap on the app any app in 
the notification center for which you want to make changes changing things such 
as whether it appears in notification center where it says on or off it’s 
merely a toggle so double tapping on that control toggles it either on or off.  
Further down where you select between alerts, banners and the like it’s an up 
or down flick that moves you through your choices. Once you flick to your 
choice which in this case would be no banners or alerts you can back out of 
that area of notifications and your setting will take hold.  I hope this helps.
Robin


From: Lori Dent 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Question about west minster chime app

Hi Chris  and all,

Chris thank you  for telling me  what I need to turn off or leave on in the 
west minster chimes app in notification. Now I have  a few more questions about 
west minster chimes app and notifications center. When I double tap on the 
notification center  it lists all the apps I have in the notification center. 
Now do I go down and find my west minster app  and double tap on that which I 
did.  Now from this point is where I need assistance at.I never have done 
anything in the notification center before so I'm not sure how to turn off or 
leave on the required alerts or banners. Can you go through them with me one by 
one and tell me how to turn off or leave on the required alerts and banners  
and whatever else  in the west minster chimes app in notifications center. 

What does this mean alerts require an action before proceeding?Howdo I do an 
action to prceed? I'm confused about how to do these different things in the 
notification center for my apps. Please help. It would be very much 
appreciated. Thanks.

Lori and the Gipper
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Re: iPhone Beeping

2014-10-17 Thread gs
My phone is doing this as well ever since the update to iOS 8.  I have not 
checked the time to try to determine whether it is happening at specific 
intervals since I only notice it when I have the headset disconnected.  it is 
either the sound that indicates swiping to a new page or the sound that plays 
when it is not possible to flick in a direction.  I know these sounds have 
actual names but I didn't memorize them.

My iPhone 5 plays both of these sounds, seemingly spontaneously, while the 
screen is locked.


On Oct 14, 2014, at 3:43 PM, SSEric sseri...@gmail.com wrote:

This is just since IOS 8. It occurs on my iPhone 5 and Touch 5.

I cannot catch it occurring regularly, but quite often, around the top of
the hour, one or the other of my devices will make a tone like when you
swipe but are at the top or bottom of the screen. I have never heard them do
it together. This occurs when the screen is off, but the device is not
powered down.

I really cant think of anything new, although I have updated some apps since
the OS release. I have made sure nothing is running in the app switcher. I
am not the only one to have heard it, so it is not just my imagination.

If anyone has any thoughts, they will be appreciated. Thanks!

Eric


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Re: settings app on iphone5s crashing when attempting to change mail sound IOS 8.0.2

2014-10-17 Thread christopher hallsworth
I can duplicate this on my 4s. Annoying but not a show stopper.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

 On 17 Oct 2014, at 20:02, Shai shai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 When I attempt to go to settings/sound/new mail sound and swipe past
 the store option to vibration, I notice that the settings app on my
 iPhone5s crashes and takes me back to the home screen.  Has anyone
 else noticed this? Thinking that it was too many apps in the switcher,
 I quit a few apps and also rebooted my phone but none of these
 solutions worked.
 I also tried quitting the settings app itself in the switcher but
 this did not resolve the problem either.
 Thanks in advance for any responses
 
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Re: Deleting a group that I created for text messaging

2014-10-17 Thread Joseph Hudson

 On Oct 17, 2014, at 1:50 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone 
 viphone@googlegroups.com hello, find a group that you want and you should 
 be able to swipe Down on it and it should present you with a delete button at 
 this does not happened, press the edit button, find the group that you want 
 and next to the group will be a delete button. I hope this helps.wrote:
 
 Hello everyone, I recently created a group text message with my two brothers 
 and my sister.  Now, every time I go to text them, the group comes up first. 
 Then I am able to find each one of their names separately. I would like to 
 delete the group. How do I do that?
 
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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hello David, does she have any kind of insurance on iPhone? The reason why I'm 
asking is because I recently had to call them, because of another issue I was 
having. I do not have AppleCare on the current home that I own either. But I 
pay for insurance through ATT. And they said if you're having a problem, We 
are able to help you via the phone anyway. So I took that report was worth and 
I never got a bill so I was happy about that. Pretty much what I'm saying, is 
is if she's having a problem she should still be able to call Apple. Hope this 
helps.
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:27 AM, David Gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
 She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.
  
 This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her 
 phone, mine is still showing 7.12.
  
 Why would this be?
  
 She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting to 
 the new unwanted update.
  
 I am a voiceover user.
  
 To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone load 
 the new ios update.
  
 This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
 Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not 
 work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft disability 
 support line to walk through removing the update because they understood the 
 negative effect on my screen reader.
  
 By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does not 
 have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.
  
 I think I like Microsoft's corporate policy better.
  
 Thoughts?
  
 David Gross
  
 
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disappearing dictate button?

2014-10-17 Thread Paul Ferrara
All, a friend not on list insists that his dictate button is gone; he was 
having issues and I think has reset his phone. IOS 8 was causing him issues and 
so he reset everything if I understand him correctly.
Now he has tried to dictate messages, can find “next keyboard” and says only 
the spacebar is to the right, no more dictate button. Anyone have any ideas 
what I can tell him; if I have to I can manually try to fix his phone when we 
see him Sunday.

Thanks.

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Re: disappearing dictate button?

2014-10-17 Thread Lois Butterfield
Hi Paul,

It may be that Siri is not turned on.  In this case, there would be no dictate 
button.  He should check under settings and Siri.

Good luck,
Lois


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From: Paul Ferrara 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 5:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: disappearing dictate button?

All, a friend not on list insists that his dictate button is gone; he was 
having issues and I think has reset his phone. IOS 8 was causing him issues and 
so he reset everything if I understand him correctly.
Now he has tried to dictate messages, can find “next keyboard” and says only 
the spacebar is to the right, no more dictate button. Anyone have any ideas 
what I can tell him; if I have to I can manually try to fix his phone when we 
see him Sunday.

Thanks.

Paul
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Re: disappearing dictate button?

2014-10-17 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hello, easy fixed serious turned off. Dictation will not work unless serious 
turned on.
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com wrote:
 
 All, a friend not on list insists that his dictate button is gone; he was 
 having issues and I think has reset his phone. IOS 8 was causing him issues 
 and so he reset everything if I understand him correctly.
 Now he has tried to dictate messages, can find “next keyboard” and says only 
 the spacebar is to the right, no more dictate button. Anyone have any ideas 
 what I can tell him; if I have to I can manually try to fix his phone when we 
 see him Sunday.
  
 Thanks.
  
 Paul
 
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Re: disappearing dictate button?

2014-10-17 Thread Paul Ferrara
All, thank you; that’s exactly what happened. All is well now.

Paul

From: Joseph Hudson 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: disappearing dictate button?

Hello, easy fixed serious turned off. Dictation will not work unless serious 
turned on.

  On Oct 17, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com wrote:

  All, a friend not on list insists that his dictate button is gone; he was 
having issues and I think has reset his phone. IOS 8 was causing him issues and 
so he reset everything if I understand him correctly.
  Now he has tried to dictate messages, can find “next keyboard” and says only 
the spacebar is to the right, no more dictate button. Anyone have any ideas 
what I can tell him; if I have to I can manually try to fix his phone when we 
see him Sunday.

  Thanks.

  Paul

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saving m4r files so they can be played as ring tones?

2014-10-17 Thread Dan Beaver
Hi,

I am having trouble finding info on this.  I am sure it is just my feeble brain 
not thinking straight today but...

I have a m4r file on my Windows 7 system.  How do I save it to my Iphone 5 so I 
can use it as a ring tone?  Can I do this via drop box or something?

thanks.

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RE: saving m4r files so they can be played as ring tones?

2014-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Only way to get ringtones onto your iPhone is via iTunes. You have to add
the file to your iTunes tone library, just go to File, Add File to Library
and browse to your M4R file. Then once it's in your tones library in iTunes,
connect your phone, go to your device and check the tones radio button. Then
either check to sync all ringtones or you can sync selected tones and then
check the ones you want in the listview where they all show up. Once that is
done go to Sync and activate it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: saving m4r files so they can be played as ring tones?

 

Hi,

 

I am having trouble finding info on this.  I am sure it is just my feeble
brain not thinking straight today but...

 

I have a m4r file on my Windows 7 system.  How do I save it to my Iphone 5
so I can use it as a ring tone?  Can I do this via drop box or something?

 

thanks.

 

Dan Beaver

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RE: settings app on iphone5s crashing when attempting to change mail sound IOS 8.0.2

2014-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi,

Yes, it does this for me too, but as soon as I don't swipe but just touch the 
screen somewhere in the middle I am in the list of available tones and then if 
I swipe backwards I can swipe left all the way past the vibration setting and 
back to the right into the list of tones and it doesn't crash. Just some oddity 
but definitely not a big deal and easily circumvented.

If you have more than one mail account it's better anyways to set the mail 
notification sound in Settings, Notifications, Mail since here you can set 
different tones for your accounts.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Subject: settings app on iphone5s crashing when attempting to change mail sound 
IOS 8.0.2

Hello,
When I attempt to go to settings/sound/new mail sound and swipe past the store 
option to vibration, I notice that the settings app on my iPhone5s crashes and 
takes me back to the home screen.  Has anyone else noticed this? Thinking that 
it was too many apps in the switcher, I quit a few apps and also rebooted my 
phone but none of these solutions worked.
 I also tried quitting the settings app itself in the switcher but this did not 
resolve the problem either.
Thanks in advance for any responses

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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Donna
Hi Sieghard 

I'm still running IOS 7.1.2. When I go to iTunes  App Store, under Settings; 
When I swipe down to automatic downloads, I can choose to turn on music, apps, 
iBooks  updates. I'm assuming that the updates toggle on/off button applies to 
Apple's downloading the latest IOS version to ones device, being there options 
to choose to have or not have music, apps  iBooks automatically updated. Am I 
assuming incorrectly? If my assumption is incorrect, what exactly is the 
Updates toggle on/off button for? I wasn't implying in my earlier message the 
latest IOS would be installed. Just that the download would be pushed onto 
one's device for installation when one is ready to install the update. 

Donna

 On Oct 17, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Donna,
  
 Automatic updates refers to apps only, it will not automatically upgrade to 
 iOS 8. In fact, if iOS 8 is in fact installed and not just downloaded to her 
 device she or somebody else must have done this deliberately since you have 
 to agree to Apple’s terms and conditions twice before the install actually 
 starts. Sorry, but that’s a definite and it will not install automatically.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Donna
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 6:22 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?
  
 Hi
  
 Perhaps she has automatic updates turned on? This can be found and turned off 
 by going to Settings, iTunes and App Store. 
  
 With automatic updates turned on Apple forces the update to your device. I 
 don't think that the update is installed unless she accepts the Terms  
 Conditions Agreement. I could be incorrect on this. I know that I noticed 
 that automatic updates was turned on and updating began on my son's iPod when 
 I plugged in the iPod. I was able to stop the process by unplugging the iPod 
 and turning off automatic updates. 
  
 Donna
 
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 8:27 AM, David Gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
 She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.
  
 This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on her 
 phone, mine is still showing 7.12.
  
 Why would this be?
  
 She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty adapting to 
 the new unwanted update.
  
 I am a voiceover user.
  
 To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that everyone load 
 the new ios update.
  
 This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC, 
 Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does not 
 work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft disability 
 support line to walk through removing the update because they understood the 
 negative effect on my screen reader.
  
 By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife does not 
 have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.
  
 I think I like Microsoft’s corporate policy better.
  
 Thoughts?
  
 David Gross
  
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Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

2014-10-17 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, according to Apple's web site, the iPad mini 3 starts at $399 for 16 
gb and $499 for 64 GB. So, unless I'm misreading your message, it seems 
like you might be $100 off.


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On 10/17/2014 10:45 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Wow, I'd take that in a minute considering that a new iPad Mini Retina which I 
assume will now also come in 16, 64 and 128 Gb costs $299 and a new iPad Mini 3 
64 Gb is $399, for what you would get and an extra $175 you could upgrade from 
32 to 64 Gb and get Touch Id, definitely worth considering.

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Raul A. Gallegos
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Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

I got an offer for $225 for my iPad Mini with Retina 32GB wi-fi. So, if I can't 
sell mine elsewhere I'll do the Gazelle offer.

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On 10/17/2014 9:25 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Well, I'm of two minds. The Touch ID would seem to offer a lot more
security. I've had a device stolen before, so maybe I'm a little
tetchy on this one, but that might be a reason for me to buy the newest Mini.

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and
seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com
mailto:motte...@gmail.com wrote:


Somebody else just posted stating that the processor in the mini has
not been updated. If that is true, my original statement stands. Why
the hell by the new one? Take advantage of the price drop and get the
old one.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com
mailto:our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip.




On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com
mailto:ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:

Hello,
Yes. It’s the A8X chip.


On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com
mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote:

Did I miss something?  Didn't they put in the new chip that is in
the iPhone 6?
They have also dropped the price points so for $499 you can get
the
16 GB WiFi, $599 you can get the 64 GB 'wiFi model and for $699,
the 128 GB.
.

Richard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

The new Mini will be available in gold and have the touch ID
sensor. Other then that, it's the same device.
You're better off grabbing last year's model if those two features
aren't important to you.
I guess the other thing that is a plus is that pricing seems to be
headed down. With the lack of a 32GB model, the 64 and 128 GB
devices are $100.00 cheaper pushing the older versions down too.
By offering the 16 GB iPads at the same introductory price, it's
like Apple wants you to just buy the larger storage options instead.
I guess if you're into the enhanced photo and video aspects with
the new Air 2, the new versions may be interesting, but  all in
all, underwhelming.
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?

Hi all,

I just ran over to the Apple store website to compare the Mini 2 
3.  If I am reading things correctly, the only change is the
addition of fingerprint security?

For a minut, I thought the Mini 3 had upgraded wi-fi signals, but
I’m not sure.  They both say Wi‑Fi (802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual
channel (2.4GHz and 5GHz) and MIMO.  iPad2 says, Wi‑Fi
(802.11a/​b/​g/​n); dual channel (2.4GHz and 5GHz) and MIMO.

Lol, that’s the same, correct?  The iPad3 spacificly mentions 2
wi-fi antennas, where I cannot find those words for the 2nd Gen
retina model.

Anyway, what do you guys know about the differences in the 2 models?

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-17 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Yes, and you have to agree to them twice even. There is no accidental 
installation of a new upgraded to iOS.


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On 10/17/2014 10:32 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

I don't understand how they could be pushed through when you have to
agree to the terms to get it.

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This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)





On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Robin robin-mel...@comcast.net
mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net wrote:

I was under the presumption that Apple doesn't CHARGE for its Services
so long as you have purchased its AppleCare, but I could be WRONG. If
anyone knows, feel free to correct me.

It's just a different policy between Microsoft  Apple on whether or
not to CHARGE for Technical Services (InPerson and/or TelePhone).

At 05:27 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote:

My wife has an Iphone 5s, I have a 4s.
She did not buy Apple care for her phone, I did.

This morning, she said Apple had pushed through the ios 8 update on
her phone, mine is still showing 7.12.

Why would this be?

She uses  screen zoom on her phone, and is now having difficulty
adapting to the new unwanted update.

I am a voiceover user.

To my mind I am not sure it is fair for Apple to insist  that
everyone load the new ios update.

This may be an unfair comparison, but a couple of days ago on my PC,
Microsoft pushed through an i.e. 11 update. I use Jaws 14, which does
not work well with i.e. 11. I was able to call for free the Microsoft
disability support line to walk through removing the update because
they understood the negative effect on my screen reader.

By comparison, apple charges for their tech support, which my wife
does not have, and there is no going back to the previous ios version.

I think I like Microsoft's corporate policy better.

Thoughts?

David Gross


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2014-10-17 Thread Anita Everette
Hi List, I'm changing e-mail addresses, and need to know the process
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