Columns and rows...

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi all, 

Ever since the upgrade to IOS 10, there are certain email messages in the 
native app, and also some places in Safari where columns and rows are announced 
constantly. I and a few others I know find this to be very annoying! Is there 
any way to turn this off to where VoiceOver just reads text without verbalizing 
every column and every row? Sure do hope so! LOL. Thanks in advance for any 
assistance you can give. 

Ann 


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Re: Suppress iOS 10 update message

[christopher hallsworth]

No there is not. You will just have to deal with it until you are ready to 
upgrade. Better still, upgrade to rid the nag messages forever.
> On 29 Sep 2016, at 21:12, Marshall Scott  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Is there a way to suppress the nag message about upgrading to iOS 10?  I'm 
> not ready to upgrade yet and I'm getting tired and annoyed with the message.
> Thanks,
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Re: Roger Update

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Yes. Pretty much everyone including me is having the same issue. A few people 
on this list aren't experiencing it though and their lucky but that's why I was 
warning people not to update to it last night.

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> On Sep 30, 2016, at 12:39 AM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
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> Since the last Roger update, when using the app the phone becomes extremely 
> hot, and the battery level drops by 1 point per minute. Has anyone else 
> noticed this?
>  
> Andy
> I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me.
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Roger Update

[Andy Baracco]

Since the last Roger update, when using the app the phone becomes extremely 
hot, and the battery level drops by 1 point per minute. Has anyone else noticed 
this?

Andy
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Re: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch

[Shai]

Hi,
I can also confirm this on my iPhone6S. The vibration setting is on in
settings/general/accessibility. When the mute switch on the side of
the phone is set to silent, and VoiceOver is on with speech, the phone
only seems to vibrate once when an incoming call is received and in my
case the caller's name or number is announced.  When disabling speech
with the two finger double tap and the switch is still set to silent,
vibration is constant as the phone is ringing.


On 9/29/16, Sachin Pavithran  wrote:
> Hi all, is the vibration glitch that was on iOS 9 in the early stages back?
> It seems like it doesn’t vibrate more than a brief second when I have an
> incoming call when the phone is set to silent.
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> Sachin
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Re: can i stop, iOS 10 Nag notification?

[Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון]

Hello Dave. There is no way to stop it. I don't fined way to do this.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-29 בספט׳ 2016, בשעה 14:07, ‏‏Dave ‏ כתב/ה:‬

>  
> Hi, i have an iPhone 6s, and i am still running 9.35.
>  
> I don’t wish to update, to iOS 10, until, more of the bugs, have been ironed 
> out.
>  
> I get the notification, that is nagging me about updating to the latest 
> update.
>  
> I know, i can keep saying no, and dismissing it, but it is becoming, a bit of 
> a pain in the you know what!
>  
> Does anyone know, of a way, i can stop this notification, until i am ready to 
> update?
>  
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RE: Adding iPhone to a contact?

[Jeffrey Turner]

Worked like a charm, of course. I had been thinking if I ttapped that label it 
would make a call, but now I get it.

 

Thanks to others who also prvided the solution. 

 

Jeffrey

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Adding iPhone to a contact?

 

Hello Jeffrey,

 

In an existing contact, if you are adding a number, just double tap on add 
phone, and it will put you in an edit field to enter the new number.

Now if you swipe left from the edit field, you will be on the label of the 
number.  Just double tap on the label to bring up a pop up window that will 
allow you to change that label to whatever you want.  iPhone is one of the 
choices.  Just double tap it to select it.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Chris

 


On Sep 29, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Jeffrey Turner mailto:jturner...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I just tried to add an iPhone to an existing contact, and couldn’t find 
anything to add but a work number. Where can I choose to add an iPhone instead?

 

This is using IOS10.2, and the press and hold gesture I tried didn’t bring me 
any joy.

 

Thanks,

Jeffrey Turner

 

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Re: Question about the kindle app

[englishrider91]

Denise, when you open the book, do a single-finger double-tap, and you'll be in 
the menu. After that, there should be a option called go to. If you click on 
that, there should be a table of contents item. These directions may not be 
totally accurate—I'm writing off the top of my head here—and appologize if you 
get stuck.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:43 PM, denise colley  wrote:
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> I just purchased the New American Standard Bible ebook and downloaded it into 
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Re: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch

[Brett]

Hi, 

I can confirm this glitch. It happens to me with my iPhone SE quite regularly, 
since updating to iOS 10. 

I haven't yet found a fix. 



Cheers Brett. 


> On 30 Sep. 2016, at 7:30 am, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> I'm talking about what happened on my friend's 6, as well. Screen lock, voice 
> over on, no headphones, phone muted. won't vibrate.  least didn't the last 
> time I tried.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
>> On 29 Sep 2016, at 9:55 pm, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> What are you talking about? My 5S vibrated on silent and it was running 
>> 10.0.1 before I traded it for my SE.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
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>> 
>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, the 5S doesn't vibrate on silent. But, it's on 10.01. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>>> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 6:21 pm
>>> Subject: RE: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch
>>> 
 
 
 I just tried this with my 6S Plus and I have vibration on and also on when 
 on silent. I muted my phone and then called from my landline and the phone 
 vibrated normally and kept on vibrating as long as I let it ring.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
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 Of Jed Barton
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 Subject: Re: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch
 
 I have noticed the same thing.  Super annoying to say the least.
 
> On 9/29/2016 11:13 AM, Sachin Pavithran wrote:
> Hi all, is the vibration glitch that was on iOS 9 in the early stages 
> back?  It seems like it doesn't vibrate more than a brief second when 
> I have an incoming call when the phone is set to silent.
> 
> 
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> Sachin
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Re: Question about the kindle app

[Kliphton Miller]

it should work the same way as if you were reading a long email.  Just swipe 
left to go forward a page, and swipe right with 3 fingers to go back a page.  
You can use the usual rodder functions also.  HTH
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> On Sep 29, 2016, at 9:43 PM, denise colley  wrote:
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> I just purchased the New American Standard Bible ebook and downloaded it into 
> my kindle library in the kindle app on my iphone.  However, now I can’t 
> figure out how to navigate from book to book and chapter to chapter.  If 
> anyone else has done this and can help me it would be greatly appreciated.  
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Question about the kindle app

[denise colley]

I just purchased the New American Standard Bible ebook and downloaded it
into my kindle library in the kindle app on my iphone.  However, now I can't
figure out how to navigate from book to book and chapter to chapter.  If
anyone else has done this and can help me it would be greatly appreciated.
You can email me off list at dmc0...@comcast.net.

 

Denise 

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Re: music on apple tv fourth gen?

[Kliphton Miller]

How are you accessing your music?  The best way is threw iTunes match, but if 
you don’t have iTunes match, then you must have iTunes open, and turn on home 
sharing.
> On Sep 29, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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> Hi all.
> I'm trying to listen to music I've purchased from iTunes on my apple
> TV.  When I go into music though it only shows me recently added.  I
> want to see all of my music I've purchased.  How can I do this?
> Thanks.
> Jen
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my last message-music, never mind!

[Jenifer Barr]

LOL, my bad.  I was just swiping to get into music... not selecting
it.  Figured out my own question's answer.
Sorry all!
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• Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch

[Michelle]

I too am having this issue while on mute. I have an iPhone 6S with Ios 10.1. 
Very strange.

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music on apple tv fourth gen?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
I'm trying to listen to music I've purchased from iTunes on my apple
TV.  When I go into music though it only shows me recently added.  I
want to see all of my music I've purchased.  How can I do this?
Thanks.
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acorn TV

[Michelle]

Hello, has anyone used the acorn TV app? I am having trouble using it with 
voiceover. Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks.

 

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Re: Start all over or use a backup, that is the question

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Mary,

Both the issues you mentioned are problems lots of people are having, so I 
think you should restore from a backup.

Best,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 1) The pause is not something that can be fixed by backups. 2) So issues 
> will not transfer. 3) You might as well try an iCloud backup first, and if it 
> fails, then revert to start from scratch, since you can always do that later. 
> HTH. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten  
> To: VIPhone 'ChalmersAS' via  
> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:53 pm
> Subject: Start all over or use a   backup, that is the question
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just got my iPhone 7 Plus via UPS. So now I have to decide whether I want 
>> to use my iTunes back up, and iCloud back up, or start from scratch. Since I 
>> have had some issues which other people don't seem to have, it is tempting 
>> to start from square one as though I had never used an iPhone and see if 
>> that does any good and clearing up some of my issues. I am thinking 
>> particularly of the pause after replying to emails and also of them very 
>> unwanted reading of table mark up in emails, which not everybody experiences 
>> you lucky people. But I am also wondering just how I am going to get my 
>> contacts on my phone if I don't use one of the back ups. And then there is 
>> the matter of organizing things. I have it set just like I want. Of course, 
>> I could always rearrange everything slowly but Shirley and get it how I want 
>> it. I'm just curious what people's experiences might have been with starting 
>> from scratch. Are there any shortcuts you can take and not jeopardize the 
>> The point of starting from scratch in the first place?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
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Re: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch

[Donna]

Just thinking out loud here...aside from having "vibrate on ring" & "vibrate on 
silent" turned on in Settings, sound; Do you have vibrate turned on in 
Settings,,General, Accessibility? Don't know if turning on vibrate in 
accessibility will solve your problem, but it is worth checking to see if this 
might fix the problem that you are having. 

Donna
> 
> I'm talking about what happened on my friend's 6, as well. Screen lock, voice 
> over on, no headphones, phone muted. won't vibrate.  least didn't the last 
> time I tried.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
>> On 29 Sep 2016, at 9:55 pm, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> What are you talking about? My 5S vibrated on silent and it was running 
>> 10.0.1 before I traded it for my SE.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
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>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, the 5S doesn't vibrate on silent. But, it's on 10.01. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>>> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 6:21 pm
>>> Subject: RE: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch
>>> 
 
 
 I just tried this with my 6S Plus and I have vibration on and also on when 
 on silent. I muted my phone and then called from my landline and the phone 
 vibrated normally and kept on vibrating as long as I let it ring.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Of Jed Barton
 Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:43 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch
 
 I have noticed the same thing.  Super annoying to say the least.
 
> On 9/29/2016 11:13 AM, Sachin Pavithran wrote:
> Hi all, is the vibration glitch that was on iOS 9 in the early stages 
> back?  It seems like it doesn't vibrate more than a brief second when 
> I have an incoming call when the phone is set to silent.
> 
> 
> 
> Sachin
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Ringer & announcements volume

[Agent086b]

Hi all,
can I adjust the ringer volume independently to what is displayed on the 
screen. When a timer is complete I hear the alarm and VO will say very loudly 
timer done. Same thing for an incoming call, VO will announce the name or 
number of the caller. I am trying to get the phone to ring more loudly as I 
have not been hearing incoming calls when out & about. but I don’t want VO 
shouting at me
Thanks as always for any help.
Max.

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Re: updates that don't

['ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone]

the updates appear finally to have installed though I had to reboot the phone 
twice.

From: Kwork 
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: updates that don't

It happened to me last week. Closing the app store, then re-opening it fixed 
things for me.
- Original Message - 
From: Jeffrey Shockley 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: updates that don't

Hello, 
I have seen this before although I thought it was just my phone just being 
crazy. I have found that sometimes rebooting the phone helps, but sometimes 
not. Sometimes, just waiting to update the apps later has also worked for me.
I hope this helps,
Jeffrey

  On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:00 AM, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone 
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  I’m wondering if any of you folks have seen this today.  App store notifies 
there are 2 updates.  Roger, and FB messenger.  Connecting to the app store did 
not appear to be a problem but tapping update all got me nowhere nor did 
tapping each update individually.  Attempted via wifi and cellular without 
success.  Comments?  Suggestions?
  Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: Notifications still interrupting well leading.

[Jenifer Barr]

Thanks Wayne. I appreciate the info. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
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> If you want to only get notified on the lock screen, you will have to
> go to the settings, then notifications, and open each app and turn on
> notifications on the lock screen, but turn off appear in notification
> center. Wish there was an easier way but unfortunately you will have
> to do this for each app that you want to change.
> 
> Good luck,
> Wayne
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>> On 9/29/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> So I want to turn notifications off? I want them on but only for the lock
>> screen.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
>>> wrote:
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>>> Set your notifications to ban
>>> nar
>>> - Original Message - From: "Jenifer Barr" 
>>> To: "iPhone List" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:19 AM
>>> Subject: Notifications still interrupting well leading.
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi.
 I thought with the new iOS 10 update well readings a long block of text
 if you got a notification I didn't interrupt? Mine still does. What do I
 have to change? Thanks all.
 
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Re: Start all over or use a backup, that is the question

[Rajmund]

Hi, 1) The pause is not something that can be fixed by backups. 2) So issues 
will not transfer. 3) You might as well try an iCloud backup first, and if it 
fails, then revert to start from scratch, since you can always do that later. 
HTH. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten  
To: VIPhone 'ChalmersAS' via  
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:53 pm
Subject: Start all over or use a   backup, that is the question

>
>
> I just got my iPhone 7 Plus via UPS. So now I have to decide whether I want 
> to use my iTunes back up, and iCloud back up, or start from scratch. Since I 
> have had some issues which other people don't seem to have, it is tempting to 
> start from square one as though I had never used an iPhone and see if that 
> does any good and clearing up some of my issues. I am thinking particularly 
> of the pause after replying to emails and also of them very unwanted reading 
> of table mark up in emails, which not everybody experiences you lucky people. 
> But I am also wondering just how I am going to get my contacts on my phone if 
> I don't use one of the back ups. And then there is the matter of organizing 
> things. I have it set just like I want. Of course, I could always rearrange 
> everything slowly but Shirley and get it how I want it. I'm just curious what 
> people's experiences might have been with starting from scratch. Are there 
> any shortcuts you can take and not jeopardize the The point of starting from 
> scratch in the first place?
> Mary
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Start all over or use a backup, that is the question

[Mary Otten]

I just got my iPhone 7 Plus via UPS. So now I have to decide whether I want to 
use my iTunes back up, and iCloud back up, or start from scratch. Since I have 
had some issues which other people don't seem to have, it is tempting to start 
from square one as though I had never used an iPhone and see if that does any 
good and clearing up some of my issues. I am thinking particularly of the pause 
after replying to emails and also of them very unwanted reading of table mark 
up in emails, which not everybody experiences you lucky people. But I am also 
wondering just how I am going to get my contacts on my phone if I don't use one 
of the back ups. And then there is the matter of organizing things. I have it 
set just like I want. Of course, I could always rearrange everything slowly but 
Shirley and get it how I want it. I'm just curious what people's experiences 
might have been with starting from scratch. Are there any shortcuts you can 
take and not jeopardize the The point of starting from scratch in the first 
place?
Mary


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Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

[Mary Otten]

 For me, focus does not remain on the delete button, not on the iPad and not on 
the iPhone. Since the delete button is always easy to find for me on the 
iPhone, this isn't a huge deal, although I would like it to stay there. What I 
find fascinating is all these variations the different people get with the same 
iOS. We always hear that it's much easier for Apple to control the experience 
because everything is locked in. Apple controls the hardware. Apple controls 
the software. And yet, there are all these interesting variations.
Mary
 

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> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi, for me, the focus remains on the delete button on my 5S, at least, if I 
> double tap quick enough, I can delete more than one messages. Thread view 
> off. As for the iPad, it will lose focus, quite obviously, since when you 
> read, you move the cursor. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Kimber Gardner  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 8:53 pm
> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Really? I reported that behavior as a bug during the beta cycle but it
>> was still present in the public release. And yes, it's annoying enough
>> that I do  most of my mail management on my phone.
>> 
>> Another issue that I neglected to mention is that focus doesn't remain
>> on the delete button once a message has been deleted. On my phone
>> under iOS9, once I delete a message focus remains on the delete button
>> so if I want to delete subsequent messages all I need do is double tap
>> anywhere on the screen. On the iPad I have to locate the delete button
>> every time. It sounds like a small thing, but it's another example of
>> something that just isn't as smooth as it could be. Have you seen this
>> behavior and is it exclusive to the iPad as well?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/29/16, Rajmund  wrote:
>>> Hi, the screen flicking thing only effects iPads. But it's really annoying,
>>> up to the point where I don't use iPad for mail.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Kimber Gardner  
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:20 pm
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
>>> 
 
 
 I completely agree with what Mary said which is why I haven't updating
 the iOS on my phone yet. I do quite a lot of mail management on my
 devices and the new mail app is just not as intuitive for me.
 
 The other thing that really annoys me in mail is how the two finger
 flick no longer starts reading at the start of the message but rather
 at the start of the screen. Before everyone tells me that all I have
 to do is to touch the start of the message then do the flick, I
 already know this and I do it. I just don't find it as convenient as
 simply doing the flick when a message opens.
 
 Okay, I'll stop whining now.  Though I do hope apple will rethink
 some of these issues in a future release of iOS.
 
> On 9/29/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> The reason I don't like the delete button killing off the whole thread
> is
> that I often don't realize I'm in a thread. If I have been within mail
> messages deleting them and then the next one opens, I can get into a
> thread
> and not realize it's a thread. Then I hit delete, I get the trash
> messages
> thing, I have to cancel, then go back and expand the threat. That's a
> lot of
> messing around that shouldn't have to happen. The other thing I don't
> like
> is that VoiceOver reading is off when you do actually trash a thread
> from
> within a single message. You get the trash messages thing, you agreed to
> it,
> then it reads the previous message title, that is the thread you just
> trashed, instead of reading the new message title. So then you don't
> know
> anything about the new message, including whether it is part of a
> thread. It
> just doesn't seem as efficient. I would rather be with in the mail
> message
> list and delete threads that way.
> Mary
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Woody Anna Dresner 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I really like the Delete button deleting the whole thread because in
>> most
>> cases, once I've read a thread, I want to delete it. I guess it
>> depends
>> what you want to do the most frequently.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for that, Anna, I had not noticed this "More Actions" button.
>>> I
>>> still think that if I am in a particular message the delete button
>>> should
>>> delete htat message only, instead they should put a button to delete
>>> the
>>> entire thread i

Fwd: [Roger] Siri Not Working And Severe Battery Drain

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hey guys. I got an answer about the battery drain issue. To be honest though, I 
think that this is just their way of saying they screwed up with this version. 
Apps like Skype and WhatsApp are configured to run on iOS 10. What's so special 
about Roger that's causing this issue?

Shawn
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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Roger 
> Subject: [Roger] Re: Siri Not Working And Severe Battery Drain
> Date: September 29, 2016 at 11:19:07 AM CDT
> To: Shawn Krasniuk 
> Reply-To: Roger 
> 
> ##- Please type your reply above this line -##
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> 
>   
> Support (Roger)
> Sep 29, 12:19 PM EDT
> 
> Hi Shawn, and thank you for the report.
> 
> We are aware of these issues, which are unfortunately due to some changes 
> required by iOS 10 but we're working on fixing them ASAP.
> 
> Apologies on our behalf!
> 
> 
>   
> Shawn Krasniuk
> Sep 28, 5:18 PM EDT
> 
> Hello. I updated to the latest version and allowed Siri to access Roger. When 
> I tell Siri that I want to talk to someone in my Roger Contacts, she reports 
> that she can't find that person. Also I've noticed significant battery drain 
> compared to last update. Before updating, I was at around 85% and now I'm 
> down to 20% battery power. What in the app is draining my battery so much? 
> Thank you.
> 
> Shawn
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Re: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch

[rajmund]

I'm talking about what happened on my friend's 6, as well. Screen lock, voice 
over on, no headphones, phone muted. won't vibrate.  least didn't the last time 
I tried.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 29 Sep 2016, at 9:55 pm, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> What are you talking about? My 5S vibrated on silent and it was running 
> 10.0.1 before I traded it for my SE.
> 
> Shawn
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>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, the 5S doesn't vibrate on silent. But, it's on 10.01. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 6:21 pm
>> Subject: RE: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just tried this with my 6S Plus and I have vibration on and also on when 
>>> on silent. I muted my phone and then called from my landline and the phone 
>>> vibrated normally and kept on vibrating as long as I let it ring.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Jed Barton
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:43 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch
>>> 
>>> I have noticed the same thing.  Super annoying to say the least.
>>> 
 On 9/29/2016 11:13 AM, Sachin Pavithran wrote:
 Hi all, is the vibration glitch that was on iOS 9 in the early stages 
 back?  It seems like it doesn't vibrate more than a brief second when 
 I have an incoming call when the phone is set to silent.
 
 
 
 Sachin
 
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RE: EarPods extension cable

[Alan Lemly]

Robin,

 

That's excellent. Now, if I want to dust off some of the many earphones I 
bought back in my Victor Reader Stream days, I can use them and have access to 
remote control and volume buttons. I will admit that most of those other 
earphones I have pale in comparison to the Apple earpods.

 

Enjoy your new extension cable.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Christopherson
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:43 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: EarPods extension cable

 

After Alan’s excellent recommendation I can confirm that the extension cable 
does indeed work. You can plug your EarPods into it and, whilst the remote 
control of the EarPods themselves ceases to work, the remote in the extension 
cable does. For whatever reason I had to reboot the Mac before it recognised 
the remote but it works a treat now. It also works on my iPhone.

 

Now when I’m working I can lean right back in my chair when I feel like a rest 
without pulling my ears out.

 

The product details are:

Black headset earphone Headphone Adapter with Remote & Mic Extension Cable for 
apple iphone 6 6plug 4 4s 5 5s 5c

https://www.amazon.com/headset-earphone-Headphone-Adapter-Extension/dp/B00JQ3OBZM
 

 

I pasted the description into the UK Amazon store and got the same product.

 

Thanks, Robin

 

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Re: Two finger double tap to start and stop media seems a little flukey in iOS10

[Joseph Hudson]

Well I hope it works, because I'm not able to tested on an iPad. As my current 
iPad many is not able to run Iowa stand. This happened to me, on my iPhone 
success running the latest version of Iowa's 10.
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> On Sep 29, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Kimberly  wrote:
> 
> OK, thanks. I'll try rebooting the iPad since I'm seeing the behavior 
> probably nine times out of 10 at present.
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Wayne Merritt > > wrote:
>> 
>> I saw this behavior early when using iOS 10. A simple phone reboot
>> fixed the issue and now the 2 finger double tap or magic tap works as
>> it should.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
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 On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Kimber Gardner 
 wrote:
 
 Just curious if anyone else seems to be having this problem. I'm
 running the latest iOS10 on my Ipad pro. I often use the two finger
 double tap to start and stop narration when reading/listening to audio
 books. Recently I've noticed that rather than starting or stopping the
 media, this ge

Re: Two finger double tap to start and stop media seems a little flukey in iOS10

[Kimberly]

OK, thanks. I'll try rebooting the iPad since I'm seeing the behavior probably 
nine times out of 10 at present.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> I saw this behavior early when using iOS 10. A simple phone reboot
> fixed the issue and now the 2 finger double tap or magic tap works as
> it should.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 9/29/16, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
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>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Kimber Gardner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just curious if anyone else seems to be having this problem. I'm
>>> running the latest iOS10 on my Ipad pro. I often use the two finger
>>> double tap to start and stop narration when reading/listening to audio
>>> books. Recently I've noticed that rather than starting or stopping the
>>> media, this gesture invokes dictation. It seems odd since I am not in
>>> an edit field when this happens but only attempting to start or stop
>>> my audiobook.
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else seeing this behavior?
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Re: Notifications still interrupting well leading.

[Wayne Merritt]

If you want to only get notified on the lock screen, you will have to
go to the settings, then notifications, and open each app and turn on
notifications on the lock screen, but turn off appear in notification
center. Wish there was an easier way but unfortunately you will have
to do this for each app that you want to change.

Good luck,
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On 9/29/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> So I want to turn notifications off? I want them on but only for the lock
> screen.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
>> wrote:
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>> Set your notifications to ban
>> nar
>> - Original Message - From: "Jenifer Barr" 
>> To: "iPhone List" 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:19 AM
>> Subject: Notifications still interrupting well leading.
>>
>>
>>> Hi.
>>> I thought with the new iOS 10 update well readings a long block of text
>>> if you got a notification I didn't interrupt? Mine still does. What do I
>>> have to change? Thanks all.
>>>
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Re: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch

[Shawn Krasniuk]

What are you talking about? My 5S vibrated on silent and it was running 10.0.1 
before I traded it for my SE.

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> On Sep 29, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi, the 5S doesn't vibrate on silent. But, it's on 10.01. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 6:21 pm
> Subject: RE: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just tried this with my 6S Plus and I have vibration on and also on when 
>> on silent. I muted my phone and then called from my landline and the phone 
>> vibrated normally and kept on vibrating as long as I let it ring.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jed Barton
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch
>> 
>> I have noticed the same thing.  Super annoying to say the least.
>> 
>> On 9/29/2016 11:13 AM, Sachin Pavithran wrote:
>>> Hi all, is the vibration glitch that was on iOS 9 in the early stages 
>>> back?  It seems like it doesn't vibrate more than a brief second when 
>>> I have an incoming call when the phone is set to silent.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Two finger double tap to start and stop media seems a little flukey in iOS10

[Wayne Merritt]

I saw this behavior early when using iOS 10. A simple phone reboot
fixed the issue and now the 2 finger double tap or magic tap works as
it should.

Wayne

On 9/29/16, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
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> using in question, and then closed it and then redid my two finger double
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>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Kimber Gardner 
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>> Just curious if anyone else seems to be having this problem. I'm
>> running the latest iOS10 on my Ipad pro. I often use the two finger
>> double tap to start and stop narration when reading/listening to audio
>> books. Recently I've noticed that rather than starting or stopping the
>> media, this gesture invokes dictation. It seems odd since I am not in
>> an edit field when this happens but only attempting to start or stop
>> my audiobook.
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Re: Adding iPhone to a contact?

[Chris Chaffin]

Hello Jeffrey,

In an existing contact, if you are adding a number, just double tap on add 
phone, and it will put you in an edit field to enter the new number.
Now if you swipe left from the edit field, you will be on the label of the 
number.  Just double tap on the label to bring up a pop up window that will 
allow you to change that label to whatever you want.  iPhone is one of the 
choices.  Just double tap it to select it.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Sep 29, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Jeffrey Turner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I just tried to add an iPhone to an existing contact, and couldn’t find 
> anything to add but a work number. Where can I choose to add an iPhone 
> instead?
>  
> This is using IOS10.2, and the press and hold gesture I tried didn’t bring me 
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Re: Adding iPhone to a contact?

[Wayne Merritt]

Once in the edit screen for the contact, find the number you want to
change to the iPhone contact number. Swipe/flick left to the button
for the type of number and double tap. You will then get a list of
options, including iPhone, mobile, work, various fax choices, and
other things. Double tap the item you want and then you will be taken
back to the edit screen where you can add other information or hit the
done button in the upper right corner.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 9/29/16, Jeffrey Turner  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I just tried to add an iPhone to an existing contact, and couldn't find
> anything to add but a work number. Where can I choose to add an iPhone
> instead?
>
>
>
> This is using IOS10.2, and the press and hold gesture I tried didn't bring
> me any joy.
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>
> Thanks,
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Re: Adding iPhone to a contact?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Jeffrey,

Double-tap where it says, "Work." a page will open with alternative labels. 
Double-tap iPhone.

HTH,
Anna



> On Sep 29, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Jeffrey Turner  wrote:
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> instead?
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Re: My SE and *411

[Nancy]

Good idea, thanks!


Nancy




On 9/27/2016 5:09 PM, Julian wrote:

,

I would recommend creating a contact with those digits. I would call that 
contact information or anything else that you would find helpful. Now, ask Siri 
to call information or whatever you called the contact and it should work.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 27, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Nancy  wrote:

I needed to get a number from information.  I had been using *411 (given to me 
by Verizon) on my Reveres for years.


Verizon is still my carrier.  When I asked Siri to call *411, Siri tells me it 
can not dial it.


Has anyone had this problem; if so, what is needed to get Siri to call my info 
number?


We thank you.


Nancy & the SE

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RE: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

[Alan Lemly]

Russ,

 

Yes, that dockStubz sounds like it will also meet your needs and it’s a bit 
less expensive at $18.95 than the extension cable I posted about.

 

So, since you're the one who started this thread, have you ordered anything yet?

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 8:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

 

they also have: dockStubz for Lightning; Designed for iPhone 7 / 7 Plus / 6 / 
6S / SE / iPad Pro and all Lightning Accessories; Female Lightning to Male 
Lightning Case Adapter that Passes Full Functionality  

dockStubz for Lightning; Designed for iPhone 7 / 7... 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=2KVQPKQSS2V7N 

 
&R=380MRWO4WKZI4&T=C&U=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB00KH08E1A%2Fref%3Dcm_sw_em_r_dp_dti_pN86xbQ8DSRK6&A=ECE0KS2FPRUPKMFDS9CAUBAGAEOA&H=MAEGIBJ2AXE16DH2U2XZJIDJVFYA

 

From: Alan Lemly 

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:20 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

 

Ari,

 

Thanks for clarifying the connectors used by the YiKaiEn iReader. Now I 
understand why a lightning extension cable with male and female lightning 
connections on either end is needed.

 

I've not found very many lightning extension cables on Amazon and I'm not sure 
I've seen any listed as Apple certified. I did just find the Lightning 
Extension Cable (2 foot, Black) for iPhone 7 / 7 Plus / 6 / 6S / SE, iPad Pro, 
and all Lightning Accessories; Full Functionality for Video, Data, Audio & More 
Through Male to Female 8-pin Cable. dockXtender for Lightning by CableJive. But 
at $25.95 for a 2-foot cable, it isn't cheap. I perused the Amazon reviews and 
like most such reviews, they were across the board.

 

Here is the link to the item at Amazon:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Accessories-Functionality-dockXtender-CableJive/dp/B00GP08858/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless
 

 
&ie=UTF8&qid=1475095898&sr=1-1&keywords=lightning+extension+cable+Apple+certified

 

That's a long link that will no doubt break in most email clients so here's a 
TinyURL to the same thing:

 

http://tinyurl.com/hxbs5dy

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

 

Alan, if I'm correctly understanding The reader that Russ has, it just has a 
male lightning connector on it directly, with no cable in between the reader 
and the male lightning connector. If Russl didn't have a case on his phone, 
this product would work completely fine. Since he does, there isn't enough room 
for the connector to go into the phone. What he wants is a cable with a female 
lightning port on one end, and a male lightning port on the other, so he can 
connect the mail lightning port to his phone and the female lightning Port to 
the reader.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Sep 28, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Russ,

 

I see that the product description for the YiKaiEn iReader specifically 
mentions to remove the item being connected from any case.

 

I'm still confused from your description exactly what you want in terms of a 
cable. How are you connecting the YiKaiEn iReader to your iPod? I'm assuming 
you're using some cable with a standard USB connector on one end which you're 
plugging into the YiKaiEn iReader and plugging the other end into your iPod. 
You don't say whether your iPod uses the old 30-pin connector or a lightning 
connector. If the latter, lightning cables from Apple seem to have the smallest 
connectors for use with an iDevice housed in an Otterbox case. If an Apple 
cable doesn't work to connect your iPad in its case to the YiKaiEn iReader, I'm 
not sure any third party cable will either even if it is Apple certified.

 

Please describe what the cable you want needs at each end in order to make the 
connection you want.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

 

The YiKaiEn iReader comes with a lightning connector on one end and a usb 
connector on the other end.  I can connect the YiKaiEn iReader with no problem 
to my ipod touch.  If your io

Adding iPhone to a contact?

[Jeffrey Turner]

Hi,

 

I just tried to add an iPhone to an existing contact, and couldn't find
anything to add but a work number. Where can I choose to add an iPhone
instead?

 

This is using IOS10.2, and the press and hold gesture I tried didn't bring
me any joy.

 

Thanks,

Jeffrey Turner

 

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Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

[Paul Richard McGann]

mary and kimber,

I had my iphone 6 upgrading to ios 10. I am braille user. I have used ios 10 
since last tuesday. it looks so good. no hard time. but only new features.


I have no problems with mail app. I am able to use mail app and it is 
wonderufl. mary, I am able to delete emails. no problems.


you can download ios 10 now.

there were some issues that bugs came up because if iphone has program with 
3d photos, that could put conflict. you don't need 3d app.


sincedrely,
rich

-Original Message- 
From: Kimber Gardner

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

I completely agree with what Mary said which is why I haven't updating
the iOS on my phone yet. I do quite a lot of mail management on my
devices and the new mail app is just not as intuitive for me.

The other thing that really annoys me in mail is how the two finger
flick no longer starts reading at the start of the message but rather
at the start of the screen. Before everyone tells me that all I have
to do is to touch the start of the message then do the flick, I
already know this and I do it. I just don't find it as convenient as
simply doing the flick when a message opens.

Okay, I'll stop whining now.  Though I do hope apple will rethink
some of these issues in a future release of iOS.

On 9/29/16, Mary Otten  wrote:

 The reason I don't like the delete button killing off the whole thread is
that I often don't realize I'm in a thread. If I have been within mail
messages deleting them and then the next one opens, I can get into a 
thread

and not realize it's a thread. Then I hit delete, I get the trash messages
thing, I have to cancel, then go back and expand the threat. That's a lot 
of

messing around that shouldn't have to happen. The other thing I don't like
is that VoiceOver reading is off when you do actually trash a thread from
within a single message. You get the trash messages thing, you agreed to 
it,

then it reads the previous message title, that is the thread you just
trashed, instead of reading the new message title. So then you don't know
anything about the new message, including whether it is part of a thread. 
It

just doesn't seem as efficient. I would rather be with in the mail message
list and delete threads that way.
Mary

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 29, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Woody Anna Dresner 
wrote:

Hi,

I really like the Delete button deleting the whole thread because in most
cases, once I've read a thread, I want to delete it. I guess it depends
what you want to do the most frequently.

Cheers,
Anna




On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Thanks for that, Anna, I had not noticed this "More Actions" button. I
still think that if I am in a particular message the delete button 
should

delete htat message only, instead they should put a button to delete the
entire thread in the More Actions choices.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

Hi sieghard and all,

When you have a thread onscreen, you can flick left several times from
the start of the next message to find a More actions button that has the
option to delete a message. That's another way to do it.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 28, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

And to add to Chris's explanation, if it's a tread and you want to 
delete

particular emails in the thread but not the entire thread, you have to
flick down to "Expand Thread", then you can flick through the emails in
the thread and use the delete option of the rotor to delete them.
Also, if you open any email there still is the usual delete button just
above the home key, just remember that if the email is part of a thread
using that button in any email that is part of the thread will delete 
the

entire thread. I think this is actually something that if it's intended
should be changed by Apple, it makes more sense that I can delete a
particular single email which is part of a thread with the delete button
that is at the botrtom of said email. I'm just not sure if it's a bug or
intended to work the way it does now.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question


To delete a single email just flick up with one finger and double tap
delete.
If it is a group or thread of messages, just flick up and double tap
delete thread.

Hope this helps,

Chris


On Sep 28, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Kathy Brack  wrote:

I just installed 10  and began reading my e-mails and trying to delete
each one as I went along. I cannot find a delete key. How do I delete n
e-mail? Thanks in advanced.
a

Kathy Brack

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Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

[Rajmund]

Hi, for me, the focus remains on the delete button on my 5S, at least, if I 
double tap quick enough, I can delete more than one messages. Thread view off. 
As for the iPad, it will lose focus, quite obviously, since when you read, you 
move the cursor. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Kimber Gardner  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 8:53 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

>
>
> Really? I reported that behavior as a bug during the beta cycle but it
> was still present in the public release. And yes, it's annoying enough
> that I do  most of my mail management on my phone.
> 
> Another issue that I neglected to mention is that focus doesn't remain
> on the delete button once a message has been deleted. On my phone
> under iOS9, once I delete a message focus remains on the delete button
> so if I want to delete subsequent messages all I need do is double tap
> anywhere on the screen. On the iPad I have to locate the delete button
> every time. It sounds like a small thing, but it's another example of
> something that just isn't as smooth as it could be. Have you seen this
> behavior and is it exclusive to the iPad as well?
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/29/16, Rajmund  wrote:
> > Hi, the screen flicking thing only effects iPads. But it's really annoying,
> > up to the point where I don't use iPad for mail.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Kimber Gardner  
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:20 pm
> > Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I completely agree with what Mary said which is why I haven't updating
> >> the iOS on my phone yet. I do quite a lot of mail management on my
> >> devices and the new mail app is just not as intuitive for me.
> >>
> >> The other thing that really annoys me in mail is how the two finger
> >> flick no longer starts reading at the start of the message but rather
> >> at the start of the screen. Before everyone tells me that all I have
> >> to do is to touch the start of the message then do the flick, I
> >> already know this and I do it. I just don't find it as convenient as
> >> simply doing the flick when a message opens.
> >>
> >> Okay, I'll stop whining now.  Though I do hope apple will rethink
> >> some of these issues in a future release of iOS.
> >>
> >> On 9/29/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> >> >  The reason I don't like the delete button killing off the whole thread
> >> > is
> >> > that I often don't realize I'm in a thread. If I have been within mail
> >> > messages deleting them and then the next one opens, I can get into a
> >> > thread
> >> > and not realize it's a thread. Then I hit delete, I get the trash
> >> > messages
> >> > thing, I have to cancel, then go back and expand the threat. That's a
> >> > lot of
> >> > messing around that shouldn't have to happen. The other thing I don't
> >> > like
> >> > is that VoiceOver reading is off when you do actually trash a thread
> >> > from
> >> > within a single message. You get the trash messages thing, you agreed to
> >> > it,
> >> > then it reads the previous message title, that is the thread you just
> >> > trashed, instead of reading the new message title. So then you don't
> >> > know
> >> > anything about the new message, including whether it is part of a
> >> > thread. It
> >> > just doesn't seem as efficient. I would rather be with in the mail
> >> > message
> >> > list and delete threads that way.
> >> > Mary
> >> >
> >> > Mary
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> >> On Sep 29, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Woody Anna Dresner 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I really like the Delete button deleting the whole thread because in
> >> >> most
> >> >> cases, once I've read a thread, I want to delete it. I guess it
> >> >> depends
> >> >> what you want to do the most frequently.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Anna
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks for that, Anna, I had not noticed this "More Actions" button.
> >> >>> I
> >> >>> still think that if I am in a particular message the delete button
> >> >>> should
> >> >>> delete htat message only, instead they should put a button to delete
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> entire thread in the More Actions choices.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> >> >>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:18 PM
> >> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> >>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi sieghard and all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> When you have a thread onscreen, you can flick left several times
> >> >>> from
> >> >>> the start of the next message to find a More actions button that has
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> option to delete a message. That's another way to do it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Best,
> >> >>> Anna
> >> >

Suppress iOS 10 update message

[Marshall Scott]

Hi,
Is there a way to suppress the nag message about upgrading to iOS 10?  I'm not 
ready to upgrade yet and I'm getting tired and annoyed with the message.
Thanks,
Marshall

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Re: Two finger double tap to start and stop media seems a little flukey in iOS10

[Joseph Hudson]

Hello, yeah I saw this behavior once. And I just opened up the app I was using 
in question, and then closed it and then redid my two finger double tap to 
start my audio again.
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> wrote:
> 
> Just curious if anyone else seems to be having this problem. I'm
> running the latest iOS10 on my Ipad pro. I often use the two finger
> double tap to start and stop narration when reading/listening to audio
> books. Recently I've noticed that rather than starting or stopping the
> media, this gesture invokes dictation. It seems odd since I am not in
> an edit field when this happens but only attempting to start or stop
> my audiobook.
> 
> Is anyone else seeing this behavior?
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Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

[Kimber Gardner]

Really? I reported that behavior as a bug during the beta cycle but it
was still present in the public release. And yes, it's annoying enough
that I do  most of my mail management on my phone.

Another issue that I neglected to mention is that focus doesn't remain
on the delete button once a message has been deleted. On my phone
under iOS9, once I delete a message focus remains on the delete button
so if I want to delete subsequent messages all I need do is double tap
anywhere on the screen. On the iPad I have to locate the delete button
every time. It sounds like a small thing, but it's another example of
something that just isn't as smooth as it could be. Have you seen this
behavior and is it exclusive to the iPad as well?



On 9/29/16, Rajmund  wrote:
> Hi, the screen flicking thing only effects iPads. But it's really annoying,
> up to the point where I don't use iPad for mail.
>
>
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Kimber Gardner  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:20 pm
> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
>
>>
>>
>> I completely agree with what Mary said which is why I haven't updating
>> the iOS on my phone yet. I do quite a lot of mail management on my
>> devices and the new mail app is just not as intuitive for me.
>>
>> The other thing that really annoys me in mail is how the two finger
>> flick no longer starts reading at the start of the message but rather
>> at the start of the screen. Before everyone tells me that all I have
>> to do is to touch the start of the message then do the flick, I
>> already know this and I do it. I just don't find it as convenient as
>> simply doing the flick when a message opens.
>>
>> Okay, I'll stop whining now.  Though I do hope apple will rethink
>> some of these issues in a future release of iOS.
>>
>> On 9/29/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> >  The reason I don't like the delete button killing off the whole thread
>> > is
>> > that I often don't realize I'm in a thread. If I have been within mail
>> > messages deleting them and then the next one opens, I can get into a
>> > thread
>> > and not realize it's a thread. Then I hit delete, I get the trash
>> > messages
>> > thing, I have to cancel, then go back and expand the threat. That's a
>> > lot of
>> > messing around that shouldn't have to happen. The other thing I don't
>> > like
>> > is that VoiceOver reading is off when you do actually trash a thread
>> > from
>> > within a single message. You get the trash messages thing, you agreed to
>> > it,
>> > then it reads the previous message title, that is the thread you just
>> > trashed, instead of reading the new message title. So then you don't
>> > know
>> > anything about the new message, including whether it is part of a
>> > thread. It
>> > just doesn't seem as efficient. I would rather be with in the mail
>> > message
>> > list and delete threads that way.
>> > Mary
>> >
>> > Mary
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Sep 29, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Woody Anna Dresner 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I really like the Delete button deleting the whole thread because in
>> >> most
>> >> cases, once I've read a thread, I want to delete it. I guess it
>> >> depends
>> >> what you want to do the most frequently.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Anna
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for that, Anna, I had not noticed this "More Actions" button.
>> >>> I
>> >>> still think that if I am in a particular message the delete button
>> >>> should
>> >>> delete htat message only, instead they should put a button to delete
>> >>> the
>> >>> entire thread in the More Actions choices.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> >>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:18 PM
>> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi sieghard and all,
>> >>>
>> >>> When you have a thread onscreen, you can flick left several times
>> >>> from
>> >>> the start of the next message to find a More actions button that has
>> >>> the
>> >>> option to delete a message. That's another way to do it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>> Anna
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sep 28, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> And to add to Chris's explanation, if it's a tread and you want to
>> >>> delete
>> >>> particular emails in the thread but not the entire thread, you have
>> >>> to
>> >>> flick down to "Expand Thread", then you can flick through the emails
>> >>> in
>> >>> the thread and use the delete option of the rotor to delete them.
>> >>> Also, if you open any email there still is the usual delete button
>> >>> just
>> >>> above the home key, just remember that if the email is part of a
>> >>> thread
>> >>> using that button in any email that is part of the thread will delete
>> >>> the
>> >>> en

Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

[Rajmund]

Hi, the screen flicking thing only effects iPads. But it's really annoying, up 
to the point where I don't use iPad for mail.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Kimber Gardner  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

>
>
> I completely agree with what Mary said which is why I haven't updating
> the iOS on my phone yet. I do quite a lot of mail management on my
> devices and the new mail app is just not as intuitive for me.
> 
> The other thing that really annoys me in mail is how the two finger
> flick no longer starts reading at the start of the message but rather
> at the start of the screen. Before everyone tells me that all I have
> to do is to touch the start of the message then do the flick, I
> already know this and I do it. I just don't find it as convenient as
> simply doing the flick when a message opens.
> 
> Okay, I'll stop whining now.  Though I do hope apple will rethink
> some of these issues in a future release of iOS.
> 
> On 9/29/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> >  The reason I don't like the delete button killing off the whole thread is
> > that I often don't realize I'm in a thread. If I have been within mail
> > messages deleting them and then the next one opens, I can get into a thread
> > and not realize it's a thread. Then I hit delete, I get the trash messages
> > thing, I have to cancel, then go back and expand the threat. That's a lot of
> > messing around that shouldn't have to happen. The other thing I don't like
> > is that VoiceOver reading is off when you do actually trash a thread from
> > within a single message. You get the trash messages thing, you agreed to it,
> > then it reads the previous message title, that is the thread you just
> > trashed, instead of reading the new message title. So then you don't know
> > anything about the new message, including whether it is part of a thread. It
> > just doesn't seem as efficient. I would rather be with in the mail message
> > list and delete threads that way.
> > Mary
> >
> > Mary
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 29, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Woody Anna Dresner 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I really like the Delete button deleting the whole thread because in most
> >> cases, once I've read a thread, I want to delete it. I guess it depends
> >> what you want to do the most frequently.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Anna
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for that, Anna, I had not noticed this "More Actions" button. I
> >>> still think that if I am in a particular message the delete button should
> >>> delete htat message only, instead they should put a button to delete the
> >>> entire thread in the More Actions choices.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> >>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:18 PM
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
> >>>
> >>> Hi sieghard and all,
> >>>
> >>> When you have a thread onscreen, you can flick left several times from
> >>> the start of the next message to find a More actions button that has the
> >>> option to delete a message. That's another way to do it.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Anna
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 28, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> And to add to Chris's explanation, if it's a tread and you want to delete
> >>> particular emails in the thread but not the entire thread, you have to
> >>> flick down to "Expand Thread", then you can flick through the emails in
> >>> the thread and use the delete option of the rotor to delete them.
> >>> Also, if you open any email there still is the usual delete button just
> >>> above the home key, just remember that if the email is part of a thread
> >>> using that button in any email that is part of the thread will delete the
> >>> entire thread. I think this is actually something that if it's intended
> >>> should be changed by Apple, it makes more sense that I can delete a
> >>> particular single email which is part of a thread with the delete button
> >>> that is at the botrtom of said email. I'm just not sure if it's a bug or
> >>> intended to work the way it does now.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Sieghard
> >>>
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> >>> Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:11 PM
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> To delete a single email just flick up with one finger and double tap
> >>> delete.
> >>> If it is a group or thread of messages, just flick up and double tap
> >>> delete thread.
> >>>
> >>> Hope this helps,
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 28, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Kathy Brack  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just installed 10  and began reading my e-mails and trying to delete
> >>> e

EarPods extension cable

[Robin Christopherson]

After Alan’s excellent recommendation I can confirm that the extension cable 
does indeed work. You can plug your EarPods into it and, whilst the remote 
control of the EarPods themselves ceases to work, the remote in the extension 
cable does. For whatever reason I had to reboot the Mac before it recognised 
the remote but it works a treat now. It also works on my iPhone.

Now when I’m working I can lean right back in my chair when I feel like a rest 
without pulling my ears out.

The product details are:
Black headset earphone Headphone Adapter with Remote & Mic Extension Cable for 
apple iphone 6 6plug 4 4s 5 5s 5c
https://www.amazon.com/headset-earphone-Headphone-Adapter-Extension/dp/B00JQ3OBZM
 

I pasted the description into the UK Amazon store and got the same product.

Thanks, Robin

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New phone totally twice with my new 7.

[regina alvarado]

For the second time in a week I" have had to start iPhone as a new phone. 
Apparently I had a glitch the first time probably not waiting long enough for 
the process to finish. This time Accessibility spent a whole afternoon with my 
roommate and I doing a complete software change. Wow, do not want to do this 
again. My fingers are tired, but I love, love, love the new way to move apps! 
Email not so much. I have gone back to no thread and hope with everything I 
have Apple will make this much more intuitive at some future time. I actually 
get completely confused if in a thread where I am. Now back to putting name and 
passwords back into apps. Btw, both problems with phone freezing every time I 
tried to turn changes with buttons off and my problem with the native news app 
are resolved it seems.



Reggie and Lex

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RE: Google Cromecast

[Ann Byrne]

My Chrome Cast cost $36; an Apple TV would be around $150.
At 11:13 AM 9/29/2016, you wrote:
In my opinion it is just another gadget which duplicates a lot the 
Apple TV can do already even though it may do it in a slightly 
different way. If you are mainly concerned about things like 
Netflix, Youtube, music and Podcasts I think the Apple TV provides a 
very accessible experience.
I believe there is a Chromcast device designed to plug into powered 
speakers so if you want to play via a pair of analogue powered 
speakers this may be a good choice since the Apple TV doesn't allow 
you to do this without converters and things, but if you are 
connecting to HDMI at least for me the Apple TV seems to be all I 
need. There is an unending offering of devices out there for all 
sorts of things from bluetooth keyboards to headsets to speakers and 
from connected players to connected home automation devices. Are 
they fun, well, yes, many are, but are they necessary? I just read 
an article where a hacker or group of hackers took over a huge 
number of connected devices like routers, smart thermostats, devices 
like the Amazon Echo  and so on to launch a denial of service attack 
on the website of some tech writer. Many of these connected home 
devices like thermostats, smart scales, locks, smoke alarms and even 
all the new Wi-Fi connected toys have notoriously poor security 
protocols and hence are easy to hack. It is amazing how many people 
get a router and never change the default password which is readily 
available via a Google search, many brands use "password" or "admin" 
as the default password and unless you actually log on to your 
router's web interface after you get it, you never know it should be 
changed and a lot of people just buy these things plug them in where 
often they work out of the box while they are wide open for anybody 
to take over. I also like all these gadgets and recently acquired a 
Ring Video Doorbell and I am very interested in some of the new 
smart locks, but a thermostat or doorbell is one thing, a lock is 
another because if hacked it would allow people access to my home. 
Is it a big concern up here in my community of 6,000 up in northern 
BC hours away from the next larger cities and an easy 12 hours drive 
from Vancouver? Maybe not, but I'm still holding off to see which 
devices are coming down the pipe that work with Apple's Home Kit 
since I believe if anybody builds in or requires good security it is Apple.
I also love the idea of the Amazon Echo, but then sometimes I wonder 
if I really want to put a device in my home which listens to 
anything that goes on at any time unless I unplug it which sort of 
defeats the purpose of the thing.



Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Brett

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Google Cromecast

Hi,


Chrome cast does pretty much the same thing as the Apple TV, but 
just works slightly differently.



With the chrome Cast, The apps you want to chrome cast from need to
support it. But don't worry, when I had a Chrome cast everything I
wanted to use had the Chrome Cast button enabled. So things like
Netflix, Pandora, Spotify and BBC iPlayer etc. I suspect you will never
get any joy here from Apple music, but...


With teh chromecast you set things up on the phone, then click the
Chrome Cast button to send it to the Chrome Cast, where it then takes
over the streaming, so you can then turn your phone off if you want and
the stream will keep playing.


Hope this helps,

Brett.



On 9/28/2016 4:17 AM, Terri Stimmel wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
>
> A friend of mine has Cromecast for their tv.
>
> Is this accessible for someone who is totally blind?
>
> And what does it do differently from Apple tv, if anything?
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Terri
>

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Verizon iPhone 7 Users Afflicted With LTE Connectivity Problems

[Mary Otten]

First T-Mobile customers, now Verizon customers. This can't be good news for 
Apple. Let's hope the problem gets fixed soon.
Verizon iPhone 7 Users Afflicted With LTE Connectivity Problems
MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Juli Clover

A growing number of Verizon subscribers are complaining about a serious issue 
that causes them to regularly lose LTE connectivity on their iPhone 7 and 
iPhone 7 Plus devices, suggesting a major bug that needs to be resolved by 
either Apple or Verizon. 

There are dozens of complaints from Verizon customers who have purchased either 
an iPhone 7 or an iPhone 7 Plus on the MacRumors forums, Reddit, and the Apple 
Support Communities. 

 
Phones from other carriers may also be experiencing the same problem, as there 
are also complaints from some AT&T subscribers. The problem appears to be 
limited to Apple's newest devices, with those who have earlier iPhones not 
reporting connectivity issues. As described by Reddit user Kangalex:
wow same exact issue. i have noticed that when my phone is out of wifi range, 
it will never automatically connect to LTE but rather get stuck at 3G until I 
put into airplane mode to reset the network connection. its really annoying and 
verizon swapped out the sim for me but mentioned that if this issue keeps 
happening they will replace the device for me. was starting to think that it 
was my phone that was defective but looks like a software issue =\
Affected customers are seeing their LTE connectivity cut out at regular 
intervals, leaving them stuck with 3G/1X speeds or no signal at all. This can 
cause calls to disconnect when VoLTE is in use in addition to interrupting data 
usage. Turning off VoLTE can avoid dropped calls, but it does not address the 
underlying problem. 

There appears to be no clear fix for the issue, and customers have been 
complaining of being routed between Apple and Verizon with neither company 
offering a solution. Restarts, sim swapping, turning off HD voice, and putting 
the iPhone in Airplane Mode appear to resolve the issue temporarily, but it 
returns. Apple and Verizon have swapped out devices for some affected 
customers, but their new devices have the same problem. 

Customers who are experiencing the issue say that the problem is exacerbated by 
switching between towers, as one might do when traveling in a moving car, and 
that it is not fixed in iOS 10.0.2 or in the iOS 10.1 beta. 

One customer was told it was an Apple software issue, and according to several 
others, Verizon is aware of the problem and is working with Apple on a fix.

Related Roundup: iPhone 7 
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Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

[Kimber Gardner]

I completely agree with what Mary said which is why I haven't updating
the iOS on my phone yet. I do quite a lot of mail management on my
devices and the new mail app is just not as intuitive for me.

The other thing that really annoys me in mail is how the two finger
flick no longer starts reading at the start of the message but rather
at the start of the screen. Before everyone tells me that all I have
to do is to touch the start of the message then do the flick, I
already know this and I do it. I just don't find it as convenient as
simply doing the flick when a message opens.

Okay, I'll stop whining now.  Though I do hope apple will rethink
some of these issues in a future release of iOS.

On 9/29/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
>  The reason I don't like the delete button killing off the whole thread is
> that I often don't realize I'm in a thread. If I have been within mail
> messages deleting them and then the next one opens, I can get into a thread
> and not realize it's a thread. Then I hit delete, I get the trash messages
> thing, I have to cancel, then go back and expand the threat. That's a lot of
> messing around that shouldn't have to happen. The other thing I don't like
> is that VoiceOver reading is off when you do actually trash a thread from
> within a single message. You get the trash messages thing, you agreed to it,
> then it reads the previous message title, that is the thread you just
> trashed, instead of reading the new message title. So then you don't know
> anything about the new message, including whether it is part of a thread. It
> just doesn't seem as efficient. I would rather be with in the mail message
> list and delete threads that way.
> Mary
>
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Woody Anna Dresner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I really like the Delete button deleting the whole thread because in most
>> cases, once I've read a thread, I want to delete it. I guess it depends
>> what you want to do the most frequently.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for that, Anna, I had not noticed this "More Actions" button. I
>>> still think that if I am in a particular message the delete button should
>>> delete htat message only, instead they should put a button to delete the
>>> entire thread in the More Actions choices.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
>>>
>>> Hi sieghard and all,
>>>
>>> When you have a thread onscreen, you can flick left several times from
>>> the start of the next message to find a More actions button that has the
>>> option to delete a message. That's another way to do it.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 28, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> And to add to Chris's explanation, if it's a tread and you want to delete
>>> particular emails in the thread but not the entire thread, you have to
>>> flick down to "Expand Thread", then you can flick through the emails in
>>> the thread and use the delete option of the rotor to delete them.
>>> Also, if you open any email there still is the usual delete button just
>>> above the home key, just remember that if the email is part of a thread
>>> using that button in any email that is part of the thread will delete the
>>> entire thread. I think this is actually something that if it's intended
>>> should be changed by Apple, it makes more sense that I can delete a
>>> particular single email which is part of a thread with the delete button
>>> that is at the botrtom of said email. I'm just not sure if it's a bug or
>>> intended to work the way it does now.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
>>>
>>>
>>> To delete a single email just flick up with one finger and double tap
>>> delete.
>>> If it is a group or thread of messages, just flick up and double tap
>>> delete thread.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 28, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Kathy Brack  wrote:
>>>
>>> I just installed 10  and began reading my e-mails and trying to delete
>>> each one as I went along. I cannot find a delete key. How do I delete n
>>> e-mail? Thanks in advanced.
>>> a
>>>
>>> Kathy Brack
>>>
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Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Mary and all,

When I start to delete a thread, I get a prompt saying, "Trash messages?" which 
I don't get if it's not a thread. Then I choose no and finish reading the 
thread.

HTH,
Anna



> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>  The reason I don't like the delete button killing off the whole thread is 
> that I often don't realize I'm in a thread. If I have been within mail 
> messages deleting them and then the next one opens, I can get into a thread 
> and not realize it's a thread. Then I hit delete, I get the trash messages 
> thing, I have to cancel, then go back and expand the threat. That's a lot of 
> messing around that shouldn't have to happen. The other thing I don't like is 
> that VoiceOver reading is off when you do actually trash a thread from within 
> a single message. You get the trash messages thing, you agreed to it, then it 
> reads the previous message title, that is the thread you just trashed, 
> instead of reading the new message title. So then you don't know anything 
> about the new message, including whether it is part of a thread. It just 
> doesn't seem as efficient. I would rather be with in the mail message list 
> and delete threads that way.
> Mary
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 29, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I really like the Delete button deleting the whole thread because in most 
>> cases, once I've read a thread, I want to delete it. I guess it depends what 
>> you want to do the most frequently.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for that, Anna, I had not noticed this "More Actions" button. I 
>>> still think that if I am in a particular message the delete button should 
>>> delete htat message only, instead they should put a button to delete the 
>>> entire thread in the More Actions choices.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
>>>  
>>> Hi sieghard and all,
>>>  
>>> When you have a thread onscreen, you can flick left several times from the 
>>> start of the next message to find a More actions button that has the option 
>>> to delete a message. That's another way to do it.
>>>  
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Sep 28, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> And to add to Chris's explanation, if it's a tread and you want to delete 
>>> particular emails in the thread but not the entire thread, you have to 
>>> flick down to "Expand Thread", then you can flick through the emails in the 
>>> thread and use the delete option of the rotor to delete them.
>>> Also, if you open any email there still is the usual delete button just 
>>> above the home key, just remember that if the email is part of a thread 
>>> using that button in any email that is part of the thread will delete the 
>>> entire thread. I think this is actually something that if it's intended 
>>> should be changed by Apple, it makes more sense that I can delete a 
>>> particular single email which is part of a thread with the delete button 
>>> that is at the botrtom of said email. I'm just not sure if it's a bug or 
>>> intended to work the way it does now.
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>>> Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
>>>  
>>>  
>>> To delete a single email just flick up with one finger and double tap 
>>> delete.
>>> If it is a group or thread of messages, just flick up and double tap delete 
>>> thread.
>>>  
>>> Hope this helps,
>>>  
>>> Chris
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Kathy Brack >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just installed 10  and began reading my e-mails and trying to delete each 
>>> one as I went along. I cannot find a delete key. How do I delete n e-mail? 
>>> Thanks in advanced.
>>> a
>>>  
>>> Kathy Brack
>>>  
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Two finger double tap to start and stop media seems a little flukey in iOS10

[Kimber Gardner]

Just curious if anyone else seems to be having this problem. I'm
running the latest iOS10 on my Ipad pro. I often use the two finger
double tap to start and stop narration when reading/listening to audio
books. Recently I've noticed that rather than starting or stopping the
media, this gesture invokes dictation. It seems odd since I am not in
an edit field when this happens but only attempting to start or stop
my audiobook.

Is anyone else seeing this behavior?

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Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

[Mary Otten]

 The reason I don't like the delete button killing off the whole thread is that 
I often don't realize I'm in a thread. If I have been within mail messages 
deleting them and then the next one opens, I can get into a thread and not 
realize it's a thread. Then I hit delete, I get the trash messages thing, I 
have to cancel, then go back and expand the threat. That's a lot of messing 
around that shouldn't have to happen. The other thing I don't like is that 
VoiceOver reading is off when you do actually trash a thread from within a 
single message. You get the trash messages thing, you agreed to it, then it 
reads the previous message title, that is the thread you just trashed, instead 
of reading the new message title. So then you don't know anything about the new 
message, including whether it is part of a thread. It just doesn't seem as 
efficient. I would rather be with in the mail message list and delete threads 
that way.
Mary

Mary


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> On Sep 29, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I really like the Delete button deleting the whole thread because in most 
> cases, once I've read a thread, I want to delete it. I guess it depends what 
> you want to do the most frequently.
> 
> Cheers,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for that, Anna, I had not noticed this "More Actions" button. I still 
>> think that if I am in a particular message the delete button should delete 
>> htat message only, instead they should put a button to delete the entire 
>> thread in the More Actions choices.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Woody Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
>>  
>> Hi sieghard and all,
>>  
>> When you have a thread onscreen, you can flick left several times from the 
>> start of the next message to find a More actions button that has the option 
>> to delete a message. That's another way to do it.
>>  
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On Sep 28, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>  
>> And to add to Chris's explanation, if it's a tread and you want to delete 
>> particular emails in the thread but not the entire thread, you have to flick 
>> down to "Expand Thread", then you can flick through the emails in the thread 
>> and use the delete option of the rotor to delete them.
>> Also, if you open any email there still is the usual delete button just 
>> above the home key, just remember that if the email is part of a thread 
>> using that button in any email that is part of the thread will delete the 
>> entire thread. I think this is actually something that if it's intended 
>> should be changed by Apple, it makes more sense that I can delete a 
>> particular single email which is part of a thread with the delete button 
>> that is at the botrtom of said email. I'm just not sure if it's a bug or 
>> intended to work the way it does now.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Chris Chaffin
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
>>  
>>  
>> To delete a single email just flick up with one finger and double tap delete.
>> If it is a group or thread of messages, just flick up and double tap delete 
>> thread.
>>  
>> Hope this helps,
>>  
>> Chris
>>  
>> 
>> On Sep 28, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Kathy Brack  wrote:
>> 
>> I just installed 10  and began reading my e-mails and trying to delete each 
>> one as I went along. I cannot find a delete key. How do I delete n e-mail? 
>> Thanks in advanced.
>> a
>>  
>> Kathy Brack
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Re: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch

[Rajmund]

Hi, the 5S doesn't vibrate on silent. But, it's on 10.01. 



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Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 6:21 pm
Subject: RE: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch

>
>
> I just tried this with my 6S Plus and I have vibration on and also on when on 
> silent. I muted my phone and then called from my landline and the phone 
> vibrated normally and kept on vibrating as long as I let it ring.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
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> Jed Barton
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> 
> I have noticed the same thing.  Super annoying to say the least.
> 
> On 9/29/2016 11:13 AM, Sachin Pavithran wrote:
> > Hi all, is the vibration glitch that was on iOS 9 in the early stages 
> > back?  It seems like it doesn't vibrate more than a brief second when 
> > I have an incoming call when the phone is set to silent.
> >
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Re: Having trouble with the one finger flick

[Patricia Kelly]

On 9/29/16, Patricia Kelly  wrote:
> I am having trouble flicking up down left and right.  Sio, having
> trouble changing time on my alarms, or deleting items from BARD.  Any
> thoughts?
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RE: Question about IOS 10, and my iPhone 6 plus.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Check in Settings > Privacy > Location Services > System Services
You can turn off most things there, especially look for "Location based 
suggestions".

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Question about IOS 10, and my iPhone 6 plus.

When I press the home button Seerie says clock based on current location.  Or 
it will name other apps based on current location.  I have a news app that 
needs location on.  Is there anything I can do to get this annoying stuff to 
stop showing up?  Thank you.  Connie

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Having trouble with the one finger flick

[Patricia Kelly]

I am having trouble flicking up down left and right.  Sio, having
trouble changing time on my alarms, or deleting items from BARD.  Any
thoughts?

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RE: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I just tried this with my 6S Plus and I have vibration on and also on when on 
silent. I muted my phone and then called from my landline and the phone 
vibrated normally and kept on vibrating as long as I let it ring.

Regards,
Sieghard


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I have noticed the same thing.  Super annoying to say the least.

On 9/29/2016 11:13 AM, Sachin Pavithran wrote:
> Hi all, is the vibration glitch that was on iOS 9 in the early stages 
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RE: Good wireless stereo earbuds

[Sieghard Weitzel]

My guess is that Apple's new Airpods will blow everything away once they are 
released in October. I read a few reviews and all the reviewers were impressed 
by the sound quality, but of course we have to wait and see for ourselves how 
the lag is and so on, so far only a few people who were at the Apple Event had 
a chance to check them out.


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Subject: Good wireless stereo earbuds

What do people prefer for good stereo earbuds thanks so much

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RE: checking battery status of bluetooth keyboard on iphone ios10

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Bluetooth devices, if they support this, usually display their battery level in 
the status bar just to the left of the iPhone's battery level.


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Subject: checking battery status of bluetooth keyboard on iphone ios10

How do you check the status of a bluetooth  keyboard on iphone using ios10! 
Seems to me I could find this inthe task switcher or notification center, but 
neither seems to work with  ios10. 
Anyone know? 

Thanks, 
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RE: IOS 10

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Delete key is still there, but you can also flick up or down on a message 
when you are in the message list until you get to delete, if that doesn't work 
make sure your rotor is turned to "Actions".


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kathy Brack
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:22 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: IOS 10



After installing the above I cannot figure out how to delete e-mails as I go 
through them. Prior to this update there was a delete key next to the move key. 
Can anyone help? Thanks!
Kathy Brack

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RE: And update is available to iOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is true, but Shaf is correct in saying that Apple I think sometimes does 
not fix bugs reported during the beta cycle where they probably could do so. 
iOS 10 has been a pretty good release, but if you think back at iOS 9 and that 
nasty bug where the phone would become totally unresponsive when Voiceover was 
running and a phone call came in especially when using a headset? That bug was 
reported by many beta testers for a long time yet Apple released iOS 9 and 
essentially for many Voiceover users the "iPhone" with emphasis on "phone" was 
not very useable as a phone. Apple has a great committment to accessibility and 
overall they do a good job, but that doesn't mean they can't be criticized for 
dropping the ball when they in fact dropped it. They introduced accessibility 
to main stream devices and in a way started a trend which is gaining momentum, 
but they should not rest on their laurels just because 7 years ago they did 
something good by making iOS accessible.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Well, yes, but not everyone tests the Beta and bugs are often detected after 
the real version is released.

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Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And update is available to iOS

Because Apple take forever to fix bugs--even when we report them in the beta 
period. Is that not what the beta testing period is for?

On 9/27/2016 3:49 AM, Monica Jones wrote:
> No, I wasn’t asking about VO fixes. Someone asked why update the 
> software. I was answering that question. This update was done not long 
> after the software was released to the public. With all the bug 
> reports we presented, I didn’t think many if any would be resolved that quick.
> Thank you anyway because I could have been asking this. I appreciate it.
>
>
> *From:* Davy Cuppens 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2016 2:25 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: And update is available to iOS
>
> In this update, no voiceover bugs are resolved.
>
> *From:* Monica Jones 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2016 7:18 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: And update is available to iOS
>
> Updating may have bugs that have been fixed or enhancements to the 
> software.
>
>
> *From:* 'Simon w' via VIPhone 
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:56 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: And update is available to iOS
>
> What is the purpose of updating your phone to the next iOS?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 25, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kevin Chao  > wrote:
>
>> I removed Apple Mail and replaced it with Inbox By Gmail On Sat, Sep 
>> 24, 2016 at 7:10 PM Shaf Patel > > wrote:
>>
>> Yep. That email freezing bug is extremely frustrating.
>> Also, some VoiceOver users have a weird page scrolling bug where
>> VoiceOver will randomly attempt to scroll through different pages on
>> your home screen. This also happened with me when restoring an iOS
>> device.
>> Also, why was the Audio Destination rotor option remove in iOS 10? 
>> Now
>> we can't route VoiceOver's speech to an AirPlay device, which was
>> extremely useful for my presentations since I didn't need to use the
>> audio jack.
>>
>> -Shaf
>> On 9/25/2016 2:57 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
>> > My feels also. Let's hope they do something about email, both the
>> > freezing when sending and braille bugs soon.
>> >
>> > Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Shaf > 
>> > >> wrote:
>> >
>> > *accessibility? Nothing.
>> >
>> > On 9/24/2016 5:35 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>> > > What's new for VoiceOver a11y users?
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 6:51 PM Richard Turner
>> > > > 
>> > >
>> > > 
>> > > > > >
>> > >
>> > > An update to iOS. the new version is 10.0.2.
>> > > Richard
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> > >
>> > > On Sep 23, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Anthony Vece
>> mail

checking battery status of bluetooth keyboard on iphone ios10

[don bishop]

How do you check the status of a bluetooth  keyboard on iphone using ios10! 
Seems to me I could find this inthe task switcher or notification center, but 
neither seems to work with  ios10. 
Anyone know? 

Thanks, 
Don

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RE: Advice for those with the new iPhone 7 or 7 Plus

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Backing up to iCloud for a lot of people is worthwhile a few bucks especially 
if they have a lot of pictures and want them to be available across devices. At 
a Dollar a month or whatever it is now for 50 Gb I think it's a no-brainer and 
worth not having to hook up the phone and deal with iTunes. In any case, iTunes 
backups don't back up photos, only turning Photo Library will do that 
automatically (or of course you can also turn on automatic backups/uploads to 
Dropbox or OneDrive if you maybe already have a lot of storage on one of these 
services. I have 1 TB of OneDrive storage with my Office 365 subscription, but 
nonetheless I choose to use iCloud Photo Library for pictures because I find 
the search function in the Photos app more powerful, I can use SIRI to search 
for pictures, all my photos and videos are available on my Apple TV and 50 Gb 
can accommodate a lot of pictures.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:35 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Advice for those with the new iPhone 7 or 7 Plus

Hi no I do not pay for iCloud Storage since the free 5 GB plan is enough for me.
> On 29 Sep 2016, at 06:02, Shaf Patel  wrote:
> 
> Do you pay for iCloud storage? If so, what makes it worth paying for 
> instead of backing up to iTunes for free?
> 
> On 9/29/2016 5:31 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>> Greetings. I know it is a generic subject, but this is a cautionary 
>> tale for those that have the new iPhone 7 or 7 Plus phones. If you 
>> have any hesitation of your phone not working as expected, don't wait 
>> a long time or think that the problem will go away or will fix 
>> itself, before you take your device back to an Apple Store. In my own 
>> case, I accidentally dropped my new 7 in a bathtub with about 4 
>> inches of water. I pulled the phone out, dried it off, but noticed 
>> that the speaker did not seem as loud. I took my phone to the Apple 
>> Store and had a technician look at it. He did several tests with the 
>> speaker and the microphone, and he did find that a mike was not 
>> working as expected. Then, no questions asked, he swapped my ten day 
>> old phone out with a brand new one of the same color and gig size as 
>> my last one. I took the new one home and was able to restore from my 
>> latest ICloud backup, which happened to be that afternoon. I've heard 
>> on the Macbreak Weekly podcast that the Apple Stores have a certain 
>> number of phones available to swap out in these cases, and they will 
>> do the swapping no questions asked if they can verify the problem. 
>> The deal is you have to take your phone inwithin the first two weeks 
>> or so after you get it. IN my case, the phone was advertised as being 
>> water resistant, and a mike evidently had some water damage after the 
>> phone's swim in the tub. However, if you hear hissing or other 
>> strange noises from your new phone, then it is worth taking a trip to 
>> the Apple Store.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Wayne
>> 
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Re: And update is available to iOS

[Monica Jones]

Well, yes, but not everyone tests the Beta and bugs are often detected after 
the real version is released.


-Original Message- 
From: Shaf Patel

Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And update is available to iOS

Because Apple take forever to fix bugs--even when we report them in the
beta period. Is that not what the beta testing period is for?

On 9/27/2016 3:49 AM, Monica Jones wrote:

No, I wasn’t asking about VO fixes. Someone asked why update the
software. I was answering that question. This update was done not long
after the software was released to the public. With all the bug reports
we presented, I didn’t think many if any would be resolved that quick.
Thank you anyway because I could have been asking this. I appreciate it.


*From:* Davy Cuppens 
*Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2016 2:25 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: And update is available to iOS

In this update, no voiceover bugs are resolved.

*From:* Monica Jones 
*Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2016 7:18 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: And update is available to iOS

Updating may have bugs that have been fixed or enhancements to the 
software.



*From:* 'Simon w' via VIPhone 
*Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:56 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: And update is available to iOS

What is the purpose of updating your phone to the next iOS?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kevin Chao mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I removed Apple Mail and replaced it with Inbox By Gmail
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 7:10 PM Shaf Patel mailto:shafpa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yep. That email freezing bug is extremely frustrating.
Also, some VoiceOver users have a weird page scrolling bug where
VoiceOver will randomly attempt to scroll through different pages on
your home screen. This also happened with me when restoring an iOS
device.
Also, why was the Audio Destination rotor option remove in iOS 10? 
Now

we can't route VoiceOver's speech to an AirPlay device, which was
extremely useful for my presentations since I didn't need to use the
audio jack.

-Shaf
On 9/25/2016 2:57 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
> My feels also. Let's hope they do something about email, both the
> freezing when sending and braille bugs soon.
>
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Shaf mailto:shafpa...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> *accessibility? Nothing.
>
> On 9/24/2016 5:35 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
> > What's new for VoiceOver a11y users?
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 6:51 PM Richard Turner
> > mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
>
> 
>  >
> >
> > An update to iOS. the new version is 10.0.2.
> > Richard
> >
> >
> > (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> >
> > On Sep 23, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Anthony Vece
mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>
> >
> > 
 >
> >> Hi everyone;
> >> And update is available which is supposed to fix a
few bucks. I
> >> downloaded it with no problem. God bless
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
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Re: Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch

[Jed Barton]

I have noticed the same thing.  Super annoying to say the least.

On 9/29/2016 11:13 AM, Sachin Pavithran wrote:

Hi all, is the vibration glitch that was on iOS 9 in the early stages
back?  It seems like it doesn’t vibrate more than a brief second when I
have an incoming call when the phone is set to silent.



Sachin

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Good wireless stereo earbuds

[Conrad Bennett]

What do people prefer for good stereo earbuds thanks so much

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RE: Advice for those with the new iPhone 7 or 7 Plus

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Wayne,

I'm not saying it wasn't a good idea to go to the Apple Store, but I would 
expect the speaker and microphone to maybe suffer froma  bit of a cold after a 
submersion, but I would probably give it a day or two to completely dry out and 
see if that doesn't restore them. As for the hissing this has already been 
dubbed "hissgate is the" and it's been documented. Just surprised that with all 
the publicity these exploding Samsung Note 7 devices got nobody called it 
"BangGate" or "FireGate".


Regards,
Sieghard  

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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:32 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Advice for those with the new iPhone 7 or 7 Plus

Greetings. I know it is a generic subject, but this is a cautionary tale for 
those that have the new iPhone 7 or 7 Plus phones. If you have any hesitation 
of your phone not working as expected, don't wait a long time or think that the 
problem will go away or will fix itself, before you take your device back to an 
Apple Store. In my own case, I accidentally dropped my new 7 in a bathtub with 
about 4 inches of water. I pulled the phone out, dried it off, but noticed that 
the speaker did not seem as loud. I took my phone to the Apple Store and had a 
technician look at it. He did several tests with the speaker and the 
microphone, and he did find that a mike was not working as expected. Then, no 
questions asked, he swapped my ten day old phone out with a brand new one of 
the same color and gig size as my last one. I took the new one home and was 
able to restore from my latest ICloud backup, which happened to be that 
afternoon. I've heard on the Macbreak Weekly podcast that the Apple Stores have 
a certain number of phones available to swap out in these cases, and they will 
do the swapping no questions asked if they can verify the problem. The deal is 
you have to take your phone inwithin the first two weeks or so after you get 
it. IN my case, the phone was advertised as being water resistant, and a mike 
evidently had some water damage after the phone's swim in the tub. However, if 
you hear hissing or other strange noises from your new phone, then it is worth 
taking a trip to the Apple Store.

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Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I really like the Delete button deleting the whole thread because in most 
cases, once I've read a thread, I want to delete it. I guess it depends what 
you want to do the most frequently.

Cheers,
Anna



> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for that, Anna, I had not noticed this "More Actions" button. I still 
> think that if I am in a particular message the delete button should delete 
> htat message only, instead they should put a button to delete the entire 
> thread in the More Actions choices.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
>  
> Hi sieghard and all,
>  
> When you have a thread onscreen, you can flick left several times from the 
> start of the next message to find a More actions button that has the option 
> to delete a message. That's another way to do it.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
>  
> On Sep 28, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:
>  
> And to add to Chris's explanation, if it's a tread and you want to delete 
> particular emails in the thread but not the entire thread, you have to flick 
> down to "Expand Thread", then you can flick through the emails in the thread 
> and use the delete option of the rotor to delete them.
> Also, if you open any email there still is the usual delete button just above 
> the home key, just remember that if the email is part of a thread using that 
> button in any email that is part of the thread will delete the entire thread. 
> I think this is actually something that if it's intended should be changed by 
> Apple, it makes more sense that I can delete a particular single email which 
> is part of a thread with the delete button that is at the botrtom of said 
> email. I'm just not sure if it's a bug or intended to work the way it does 
> now.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question
>  
>  
> To delete a single email just flick up with one finger and double tap delete.
> If it is a group or thread of messages, just flick up and double tap delete 
> thread.
>  
> Hope this helps,
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
> On Sep 28, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Kathy Brack  > wrote:
> 
> I just installed 10  and began reading my e-mails and trying to delete each 
> one as I went along. I cannot find a delete key. How do I delete n e-mail? 
> Thanks in advanced.
> a
>  
> Kathy Brack
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RE: IOS 10 e-mail question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks for that, Anna, I had not noticed this "More Actions" button. I still 
think that if I am in a particular message the delete button should delete htat 
message only, instead they should put a button to delete the entire thread in 
the More Actions choices.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question

Hi sieghard and all,

When you have a thread onscreen, you can flick left several times from the 
start of the next message to find a More actions button that has the option to 
delete a message. That's another way to do it.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 28, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And to add to Chris's explanation, if it's a tread and you want to delete 
particular emails in the thread but not the entire thread, you have to flick 
down to "Expand Thread", then you can flick through the emails in the thread 
and use the delete option of the rotor to delete them.
Also, if you open any email there still is the usual delete button just above 
the home key, just remember that if the email is part of a thread using that 
button in any email that is part of the thread will delete the entire thread. I 
think this is actually something that if it's intended should be changed by 
Apple, it makes more sense that I can delete a particular single email which is 
part of a thread with the delete button that is at the botrtom of said email. 
I'm just not sure if it's a bug or intended to work the way it does now.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10 e-mail question


To delete a single email just flick up with one finger and double tap delete.
If it is a group or thread of messages, just flick up and double tap delete 
thread.

Hope this helps,

Chris


On Sep 28, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Kathy Brack 
mailto:kathymbr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I just installed 10  and began reading my e-mails and trying to delete each one 
as I went along. I cannot find a delete key. How do I delete n e-mail? Thanks 
in advanced.
a

Kathy Brack

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RE: Google Cromecast

[Sieghard Weitzel]

In my opinion it is just another gadget which duplicates a lot the Apple TV can 
do already even though it may do it in a slightly different way. If you are 
mainly concerned about things like Netflix, Youtube, music and Podcasts I think 
the Apple TV provides a very accessible experience.
I believe there is a Chromcast device designed to plug into powered speakers so 
if you want to play via a pair of analogue powered speakers this may be a good 
choice since the Apple TV doesn't allow you to do this without converters and 
things, but if you are connecting to HDMI at least for me the Apple TV seems to 
be all I need. There is an unending offering of devices out there for all sorts 
of things from bluetooth keyboards to headsets to speakers and from connected 
players to connected home automation devices. Are they fun, well, yes, many 
are, but are they necessary? I just read an article where a hacker or group of 
hackers took over a huge number of connected devices like routers, smart 
thermostats, devices like the Amazon Echo  and so on to launch a denial of 
service attack on the website of some tech writer. Many of these connected home 
devices like thermostats, smart scales, locks, smoke alarms and even all the 
new Wi-Fi connected toys have notoriously poor security protocols and hence are 
easy to hack. It is amazing how many people get a router and never change the 
default password which is readily available via a Google search, many brands 
use "password" or "admin" as the default password and unless you actually log 
on to your router's web interface after you get it, you never know it should be 
changed and a lot of people just buy these things plug them in where often they 
work out of the box while they are wide open for anybody to take over. I also 
like all these gadgets and recently acquired a Ring Video Doorbell and I am 
very interested in some of the new smart locks, but a thermostat or doorbell is 
one thing, a lock is another because if hacked it would allow people access to 
my home. Is it a big concern up here in my community of 6,000 up in northern BC 
hours away from the next larger cities and an easy 12 hours drive from 
Vancouver? Maybe not, but I'm still holding off to see which devices are coming 
down the pipe that work with Apple's Home Kit since I believe if anybody builds 
in or requires good security it is Apple.
I also love the idea of the Amazon Echo, but then sometimes I wonder if I 
really want to put a device in my home which listens to anything that goes on 
at any time unless I unplug it which sort of defeats the purpose of the thing.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Google Cromecast

Hi,


Chrome cast does pretty much the same thing as the Apple TV, but just works 
slightly differently.


With the chrome Cast, The apps you want to chrome cast from need to 
support it. But don't worry, when I had a Chrome cast everything I 
wanted to use had the Chrome Cast button enabled. So things like 
Netflix, Pandora, Spotify and BBC iPlayer etc. I suspect you will never 
get any joy here from Apple music, but...


With teh chromecast you set things up on the phone, then click the 
Chrome Cast button to send it to the Chrome Cast, where it then takes 
over the streaming, so you can then turn your phone off if you want and 
the stream will keep playing.


Hope this helps,

Brett.



On 9/28/2016 4:17 AM, Terri Stimmel wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
>
> A friend of mine has Cromecast for their tv.
>
> Is this accessible for someone who is totally blind?
>
> And what does it do differently from Apple tv, if anything?
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Terri
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Smart Apple Watch and Aetna insurance

[terrie arnold]

My thoughts for today just heard on CNN, that Atnah insurance is going to 
subsidize their ensures and purchasing an Apple smart watch through Aetna 
insurance as they are supposedly going to greatly subsidize the cost of this, 
and whatever is not paid by them can be paid for through an additional fee in 
premiums thought that was very interesting so passing this information along to 
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Re: interesting glitch

[terrie arnold]

Hey I called Apple helpdesk or accessible desk, on the see if issue of income 
and call as they are never heard about this yet so all of you that are having 
this problem.
Please please please, call the hamper Apple support desk and tell them this 
issue so I can get fixed as I just talk to them and they've never heard of this 
before.

My thoughts for today

> On Sep 29, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Jerry White  wrote:
> 
> Same here!  Everything in the call log is labeled correctly, but whenever I 
> place an outgoing call, VO reads "Incoming Call".  When a call comes in, VO 
> just says the contact name if they are in my address book, or tells me the 
> phone number if they are not.  Kind of funny to me, I had to giggle the first 
> time I heard VO say incoming call because I thought at first that I had 
> another call coming in!  It took a few times to realize I wasn't messing up 
> and losing the incoming call. LOL!
> Jerry
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: interesting glitch
>  
> Hey Guys,
>  
> I to have noticed this as well. I have looked in the recent call list. The 
> call list displays the calls as out going, incoming, or missed like it 
> should. I have also noticed that if the caller on the other end hangs up 
> before you do VoiceOver will announce call declined. Interesting…
>  
>  
> Ed
> On Sep 26, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
> wrote:
>  
> Yep, me too.  I think someone’s a bit confused! Wonder if voice over says 
> anything when a real incoming call comes in? 
> God bless!
> Paula and Boston
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups. com
> Subject: interesting glitch
>  
> Has anyone heard voiceover announce, "incoming call" after you have DT a 
> contact to call it? 
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Re: updates that don't

[Kwork]

It happened to me last week. Closing the app store, then re-opening it fixed 
things for me.
- Original Message - 
From: Jeffrey Shockley 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: updates that don't


Hello,
I have seen this before although I thought it was just my phone just being 
crazy. I have found that sometimes rebooting the phone helps, but sometimes 
not. Sometimes, just waiting to update the apps later has also worked for me.
I hope this helps,
Jeffrey

  On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:00 AM, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


  I’m wondering if any of you folks have seen this today.  App store notifies 
there are 2 updates.  Roger, and FB messenger.  Connecting to the app store did 
not appear to be a problem but tapping update all got me nowhere nor did 
tapping each update individually.  Attempted via wifi and cellular without 
success.  Comments?  Suggestions?
  Ray T. Mahorney
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RE: Accessible ringtone app

[Rose Combs]

I have never tried these apps because what I’d want are actual ring tones, I do 
not want to put funny or speak anything to the phone, I just want melodic 
ringtones!  

 

 

Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

 

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Todd Bernhard
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 5:23 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Accessible ringtone app

 

May I humbly suggest my AutoRingtone apps. Some are free. They let you create 
talking Caller ID ringtones (with optional sound effects) that say whatever you 
type, such as "Jeremy, your phone is ringing. The President is calling." in a 
variety of text-to-speech voices.

 

Here's a link to one of the free ones:

 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/auto-ringtone-uk-create-free/id335913545?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

---todd

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On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 3:45:08 AM UTC-4, jeremy jeffers wrote:

I'm looking for an app that will allow me to Brose different ringtones in 
different categories like zedge or 

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RE: interesting glitch

[Jerry White]

Same here!  Everything in the call log is labeled correctly, but whenever I 
place an outgoing call, VO reads "Incoming Call".  When a call comes in, VO 
just says the contact name if they are in my address book, or tells me the 
phone number if they are not.  Kind of funny to me, I had to giggle the first 
time I heard VO say incoming call because I thought at first that I had another 
call coming in!  It took a few times to realize I wasn't messing up and losing 
the incoming call. LOL!

Jerry

 

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Ed Worrell
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: interesting glitch

 

Hey Guys,

 

I to have noticed this as well. I have looked in the recent call list. The call 
list displays the calls as out going, incoming, or missed like it should. I 
have also noticed that if the caller on the other end hangs up before you do 
VoiceOver will announce call declined. Interesting…

 

 

Ed

On Sep 26, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

 

Yep, me too.  I think someone’s a bit confused! Wonder if voice over says 
anything when a real incoming call comes in? 

God bless!

Paula and Boston

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups. com
Subject: interesting glitch

 

Has anyone heard voiceover announce, "incoming call" after you have DT a 
contact to call it? 

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Vibration glitch while on silent: interesting glitch

[Sachin Pavithran]

Hi all, is the vibration glitch that was on iOS 9 in the early stages back?  It 
seems like it doesn’t vibrate more than a brief second when I have an incoming 
call when the phone is set to silent.

 

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Re: interesting glitch

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Guys,

I to have noticed this as well. I have looked in the recent call list. The call 
list displays the calls as out going, incoming, or missed like it should. I 
have also noticed that if the caller on the other end hangs up before you do 
VoiceOver will announce call declined. Interesting…


Ed
> On Sep 26, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
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> 
> Yep, me too.  I think someone’s a bit confused! Wonder if voice over says 
> anything when a real incoming call comes in? 
> God bless!
> Paula and Boston
>  
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> To: viphone@googlegroups. com
> Subject: interesting glitch
>  
> Has anyone heard voiceover announce, "incoming call" after you have DT a 
> contact to call it? 
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Re: IOS 10

[Rajmund]

Hi, for me, anyway, it is still there. Thought of looking in settings, mail, 
account, advanced, and check which button is selected? You should change 
archive to delete, to  see the button.



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Subject: IOS 10

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Question about IOS 10, and my iPhone 6 plus.

[cmohney1961]

When I press the home button Seerie says clock based on current location.  Or 
it will name other apps based on current location.  I have a news app that 
needs location on.  Is there anything I can do to get this annoying stuff to 
stop showing up?  Thank you.  Connie

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Re: WARNING! Do Not Update Roger

[Gordon]

Add my name to the list of people who had to delete the app because of 
this. It dropped my battery 20 percent in 10 minutes after replying to a 
roger chat. And my SE got hot during this time. My SE never gets hot.



On 9/29/2016 8:23 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

No I have an iPhone SE. I should add that I'm not the only one who's 
experiencing this. If you look at their Twitter, you'll see a tweet storm of 
people that are having the same issue I am. Even the Roger group I'm in are all 
experiencing this. This is what happens when you abandon having a beta team to 
test your app. Very poor business practice.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
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Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Sep 29, 2016, at 5:27 AM, Don Breda  wrote:

I wonder if you have an IPhone 7?


Rovin has reported a similar issue with Sonos at least the battery drain part 
but I don't find that heare.


She is running an iPhone 7 I believe and I am running a 6S.


I wonder if it is an issue of the developers not fixing  their code properly to 
take advantage of the coprocessor?



Just a thought.


Don




On 28-Sep-16 9:13 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

Hi guys. I'm not sure if anyone is aware of this but Roger released an update 
that allows Siri capability and other features. Do not update to this version 
unless you want a hand warmer. Whenever this app is in the background, even if 
it's not in the app switcher, the phone gets really hot and it eats your 
battery like there's no tomorrow. If you did update to this version, I suggest 
you downgrade to an earlier version as soon as possible. This is a horrible 
update and I hope the Roger team addresses this soon.

Shawn
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IOS 10

[Kathy Brack]

 

 

After installing the above I cannot figure out how to delete e-mails as I go
through them. Prior to this update there was a delete key next to the move
key. Can anyone help? Thanks!

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Re: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

[Russ Kiehne]

they also have: dockStubz for Lightning; Designed for iPhone 7 / 7 Plus / 6 / 
6S / SE / iPad Pro and all Lightning Accessories; Female Lightning to Male 
Lightning Case Adapter that Passes Full Functionality  
dockStubz for Lightning; Designed for iPhone 7 / 7... 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=2KVQPKQSS2V7N&R=380MRWO4WKZI4&T=C&U=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB00KH08E1A%2Fref%3Dcm_sw_em_r_dp_dti_pN86xbQ8DSRK6&A=ECE0KS2FPRUPKMFDS9CAUBAGAEOA&H=MAEGIBJ2AXE16DH2U2XZJIDJVFYA

From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

Ari,

 

Thanks for clarifying the connectors used by the YiKaiEn iReader. Now I 
understand why a lightning extension cable with male and female lightning 
connections on either end is needed.

 

I've not found very many lightning extension cables on Amazon and I'm not sure 
I've seen any listed as Apple certified. I did just find the Lightning 
Extension Cable (2 foot, Black) for iPhone 7 / 7 Plus / 6 / 6S / SE, iPad Pro, 
and all Lightning Accessories; Full Functionality for Video, Data, Audio & More 
Through Male to Female 8-pin Cable. dockXtender for Lightning by CableJive. But 
at $25.95 for a 2-foot cable, it isn't cheap. I perused the Amazon reviews and 
like most such reviews, they were across the board.

 

Here is the link to the item at Amazon:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Accessories-Functionality-dockXtender-CableJive/dp/B00GP08858/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1475095898&sr=1-1&keywords=lightning+extension+cable+Apple+certified

 

That's a long link that will no doubt break in most email clients so here's a 
TinyURL to the same thing:

 

http://tinyurl.com/hxbs5dy

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

 

Alan, if I'm correctly understanding The reader that Russ has, it just has a 
male lightning connector on it directly, with no cable in between the reader 
and the male lightning connector. If Russl didn't have a case on his phone, 
this product would work completely fine. Since he does, there isn't enough room 
for the connector to go into the phone. What he wants is a cable with a female 
lightning port on one end, and a male lightning port on the other, so he can 
connect the mail lightning port to his phone and the female lightning Port to 
the reader.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Sep 28, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

  Russ,

   

  I see that the product description for the YiKaiEn iReader specifically 
mentions to remove the item being connected from any case.

   

  I'm still confused from your description exactly what you want in terms of a 
cable. How are you connecting the YiKaiEn iReader to your iPod? I'm assuming 
you're using some cable with a standard USB connector on one end which you're 
plugging into the YiKaiEn iReader and plugging the other end into your iPod. 
You don't say whether your iPod uses the old 30-pin connector or a lightning 
connector. If the latter, lightning cables from Apple seem to have the smallest 
connectors for use with an iDevice housed in an Otterbox case. If an Apple 
cable doesn't work to connect your iPad in its case to the YiKaiEn iReader, I'm 
not sure any third party cable will either even if it is Apple certified.

   

  Please describe what the cable you want needs at each end in order to make 
the connection you want.

   

  Alan Lemly

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
  Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:51 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

   

  The YiKaiEn iReader comes with a lightning connector on one end and a usb 
connector on the other end.  I can connect the YiKaiEn iReader with no problem 
to my ipod touch.  If your ios device has a case, you can’t connect the YiKaiEn 
iReader to it.  The reader doesn’t come with a lightning cable.

   

  From: Alan Lemly 

  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:12 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: RE: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

   

  Russ,

   

  I'm a bit confused about what exactly you need in order to use the YiKaiEn 
iReader with your iPad. I'm assuming the Otterbox case prevents your using the 
cable that came with the YiKaiEn iReader because the lightning plug on it is 
configured so it doesn't fit. I'm not sure an extension cable is the best way 
to go because I didn't see many of those listed as being Apple certified on 
Amazon.

   

  What type of plug connects to the actual YiKaiEn iReader on the cable that 
came with it? If it is a common type of connector, you might have better luck 
finding an Apple certified light

Re: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

[Russ Kiehne]

You are correctly understanding The reader I have.

From: englishride...@gmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

Alan, if I'm correctly understanding The reader that Russ has, it just has a 
male lightning connector on it directly, with no cable in between the reader 
and the male lightning connector. If Russl didn't have a case on his phone, 
this product would work completely fine. Since he does, there isn't enough room 
for the connector to go into the phone. What he wants is a cable with a female 
lightning port on one end, and a male lightning port on the other, so he can 
connect the mail lightning port to his phone and the female lightning Port to 
the reader.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 28, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


  Russ,

   

  I see that the product description for the YiKaiEn iReader specifically 
mentions to remove the item being connected from any case.

   

  I'm still confused from your description exactly what you want in terms of a 
cable. How are you connecting the YiKaiEn iReader to your iPod? I'm assuming 
you're using some cable with a standard USB connector on one end which you're 
plugging into the YiKaiEn iReader and plugging the other end into your iPod. 
You don't say whether your iPod uses the old 30-pin connector or a lightning 
connector. If the latter, lightning cables from Apple seem to have the smallest 
connectors for use with an iDevice housed in an Otterbox case. If an Apple 
cable doesn't work to connect your iPad in its case to the YiKaiEn iReader, I'm 
not sure any third party cable will either even if it is Apple certified.

   

  Please describe what the cable you want needs at each end in order to make 
the connection you want.

   

  Alan Lemly

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
  Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:51 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

   

  The YiKaiEn iReader comes with a lightning connector on one end and a usb 
connector on the other end.  I can connect the YiKaiEn iReader with no problem 
to my ipod touch.  If your ios device has a case, you can’t connect the YiKaiEn 
iReader to it.  The reader doesn’t come with a lightning cable.

   

  From: Alan Lemly 

  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:12 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: RE: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

   

  Russ,

   

  I'm a bit confused about what exactly you need in order to use the YiKaiEn 
iReader with your iPad. I'm assuming the Otterbox case prevents your using the 
cable that came with the YiKaiEn iReader because the lightning plug on it is 
configured so it doesn't fit. I'm not sure an extension cable is the best way 
to go because I didn't see many of those listed as being Apple certified on 
Amazon.

   

  What type of plug connects to the actual YiKaiEn iReader on the cable that 
came with it? If it is a common type of connector, you might have better luck 
finding an Apple certified lightning cable that has a small lightning plug 
which will work with the Otterbox case and the appropriate connector on the end 
which connects to the YiKaiEn iReader. Just another alternative you might wish 
to consider.

   

  Good luck.

   

  Alan Lemly

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:33 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

   

  I would like to use the YiKaiEn iReader SDHC SDXC Micro SD OTG Card Reader 
with my ipad mini 4.  I’m using the otterbox case and because of this I can’t 
currently do this.  I need a Lightning Extension Cable to do this?

   

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Re: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

[Russ Kiehne]

I plug the reader directly into the ipod using it’s lightning connector.  MY 
ipad mini 4 has a otterbox case.  I don’t want to have to remove my ipad mini 4 
from the otterbox case every time I want to use the reader.  The lightning 
cable would plug into my ipad mini and the card reader would connect to the 
lightning extension cable.

From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

Russ,

 

I see that the product description for the YiKaiEn iReader specifically 
mentions to remove the item being connected from any case.

 

I'm still confused from your description exactly what you want in terms of a 
cable. How are you connecting the YiKaiEn iReader to your iPod? I'm assuming 
you're using some cable with a standard USB connector on one end which you're 
plugging into the YiKaiEn iReader and plugging the other end into your iPod. 
You don't say whether your iPod uses the old 30-pin connector or a lightning 
connector. If the latter, lightning cables from Apple seem to have the smallest 
connectors for use with an iDevice housed in an Otterbox case. If an Apple 
cable doesn't work to connect your iPad in its case to the YiKaiEn iReader, I'm 
not sure any third party cable will either even if it is Apple certified.

 

Please describe what the cable you want needs at each end in order to make the 
connection you want.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

 

The YiKaiEn iReader comes with a lightning connector on one end and a usb 
connector on the other end.  I can connect the YiKaiEn iReader with no problem 
to my ipod touch.  If your ios device has a case, you can’t connect the YiKaiEn 
iReader to it.  The reader doesn’t come with a lightning cable.

 

From: Alan Lemly 

Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:12 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

 

Russ,

 

I'm a bit confused about what exactly you need in order to use the YiKaiEn 
iReader with your iPad. I'm assuming the Otterbox case prevents your using the 
cable that came with the YiKaiEn iReader because the lightning plug on it is 
configured so it doesn't fit. I'm not sure an extension cable is the best way 
to go because I didn't see many of those listed as being Apple certified on 
Amazon.

 

What type of plug connects to the actual YiKaiEn iReader on the cable that came 
with it? If it is a common type of connector, you might have better luck 
finding an Apple certified lightning cable that has a small lightning plug 
which will work with the Otterbox case and the appropriate connector on the end 
which connects to the YiKaiEn iReader. Just another alternative you might wish 
to consider.

 

Good luck.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is their such a thing as a Lightning Extension Cable?

 

I would like to use the YiKaiEn iReader SDHC SDXC Micro SD OTG Card Reader with 
my ipad mini 4.  I’m using the otterbox case and because of this I can’t 
currently do this.  I need a Lightning Extension Cable to do this?

 

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Re: WARNING! Do Not Update Roger

[Davy Cuppens]

have removed the app for 2 months now hearing from many people the app is 
not trusty.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Shawn Krasniuk

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:13 AM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone
Subject: WARNING! Do Not Update Roger

Hi guys. I'm not sure if anyone is aware of this but Roger released an 
update that allows Siri capability and other features. Do not update to this 
version unless you want a hand warmer. Whenever this app is in the 
background, even if it's not in the app switcher, the phone gets really hot 
and it eats your battery like there's no tomorrow. If you did update to this 
version, I suggest you downgrade to an earlier version as soon as possible. 
This is a horrible update and I hope the Roger team addresses this soon.


Shawn
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Re: WARNING! Do Not Update Roger

[Shawn Krasniuk]

No I have an iPhone SE. I should add that I'm not the only one who's 
experiencing this. If you look at their Twitter, you'll see a tweet storm of 
people that are having the same issue I am. Even the Roger group I'm in are all 
experiencing this. This is what happens when you abandon having a beta team to 
test your app. Very poor business practice.

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> On Sep 29, 2016, at 5:27 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if you have an IPhone 7?
> 
> 
> Rovin has reported a similar issue with Sonos at least the battery drain part 
> but I don't find that heare.
> 
> 
> She is running an iPhone 7 I believe and I am running a 6S.
> 
> 
> I wonder if it is an issue of the developers not fixing  their code properly 
> to take advantage of the coprocessor?
> 
> 
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 28-Sep-16 9:13 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>> Hi guys. I'm not sure if anyone is aware of this but Roger released an 
>> update that allows Siri capability and other features. Do not update to this 
>> version unless you want a hand warmer. Whenever this app is in the 
>> background, even if it's not in the app switcher, the phone gets really hot 
>> and it eats your battery like there's no tomorrow. If you did update to this 
>> version, I suggest you downgrade to an earlier version as soon as possible. 
>> This is a horrible update and I hope the Roger team addresses this soon.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
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Re: Changing Voiceover Output To Bluetooth on IOS 10?

[James Lee]

Hi All,

Thank you for all the suggestions.
I accidentally fixed the issue. I just paired my phone with another 
Bluetooth headset, and it worked perfectly fine.
Since then, the headset with the problem also works fine for now. Go figure.

JL

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IOS10 solves a problem for me

[Karen Poulakos]

I'm so excited!  I've been using Voxie Pro for recording.  An update some
time ago created a problem for deleting recordings.  After updating to IOS
10 this morning, I just discovered that the check boxes are back, so now I
can delete recordings more easily.

 

I prefer Voxie because of the ease in transfering recordings to my computer.
I don't think it's been updated in years.  Not sure it's even still
available in the app store.  But I intend to hang on to it as long as I can.

 

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Re: Notifications still interrupting well leading.

[Jenifer Barr]

So I want to turn notifications off? I want them on but only for the lock 
screen. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
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> Set your notifications to ban
> nar
> - Original Message - From: "Jenifer Barr" 
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>> I thought with the new iOS 10 update well readings a long block of text if 
>> you got a notification I didn't interrupt? Mine still does. What do I have 
>> to change? Thanks all.
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Re: Notifications still interrupting well leading.

[Robert Doc Wright]

Set your notifications to ban
nar
- Original Message - 
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To: "iPhone List" 
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:19 AM
Subject: Notifications still interrupting well leading.



Hi.
I thought with the new iOS 10 update well readings a long block of text if 
you got a notification I didn't interrupt? Mine still does. What do I have 
to change? Thanks all.


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can i stop, iOS 10 Nag notification?

[Dave]

Hi, i have an iPhone 6s, and i am still running 9.35.

I don’t wish to update, to iOS 10, until, more of the bugs, have been ironed 
out.

I get the notification, that is nagging me about updating to the latest update.

I know, i can keep saying no, and dismissing it, but it is becoming, a bit of a 
pain in the you know what!

Does anyone know, of a way, i can stop this notification, until i am ready to 
update?

Dave.

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Re: WARNING! Do Not Update Roger

[Don Breda]

I wonder if you have an IPhone 7?


Rovin has reported a similar issue with Sonos at least the battery drain 
part but I don't find that heare.



She is running an iPhone 7 I believe and I am running a 6S.


I wonder if it is an issue of the developers not fixing  their code 
properly to take advantage of the coprocessor?




Just a thought.


Don




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Hi guys. I'm not sure if anyone is aware of this but Roger released an update 
that allows Siri capability and other features. Do not update to this version 
unless you want a hand warmer. Whenever this app is in the background, even if 
it's not in the app switcher, the phone gets really hot and it eats your 
battery like there's no tomorrow. If you did update to this version, I suggest 
you downgrade to an earlier version as soon as possible. This is a horrible 
update and I hope the Roger team addresses this soon.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
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Re: updates that don't

[Rajmund]

Hi, confirmed. Try, say, 20 minutes later, for me, anyway, always paid off.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

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Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:07 am
Subject: Re: updates that don't

>
>
> Hello,
> I have seen this before although I thought it was just my phone just being 
> crazy. I have found that sometimes rebooting the phone helps, but sometimes 
> not. Sometimes, just waiting to update the apps later has also worked for me.
> I hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
> > On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:00 AM, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone 
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> > I'm wondering if any of you folks have seen this today.  App store notifies 
> > there are 2 updates.  Roger, and FB messenger.  Connecting to the app store 
> > did not appear to be a problem but tapping update all got me nowhere nor 
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> did not appear to be a problem but tapping update all got me nowhere nor did 
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Hello,
I have seen this before although I thought it was just my phone just being 
crazy. I have found that sometimes rebooting the phone helps, but sometimes 
not. Sometimes, just waiting to update the apps later has also worked for me.
I hope this helps,
Jeffrey
> On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:00 AM, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m wondering if any of you folks have seen this today.  App store notifies 
> there are 2 updates.  Roger, and FB messenger.  Connecting to the app store 
> did not appear to be a problem but tapping update all got me nowhere nor did 
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updates that don't

['ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone]

I’m wondering if any of you folks have seen this today.  App store notifies 
there are 2 updates.  Roger, and FB messenger.  Connecting to the app store did 
not appear to be a problem but tapping update all got me nowhere nor did 
tapping each update individually.  Attempted via wifi and cellular without 
success.  Comments?  Suggestions?
Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: Advice for those with the new iPhone 7 or 7 Plus

[Lois Butterfield]

Hi all,

I get my Apple watch wet from time to time, and I do notice that the speaker 
is affected.  It takes some time for it to dry and work properly afterword.


Way back when it first came out, I read some reviews by people who wore 
their watch swimming, who said that it worked perfectly afterward.  I'm sure 
they didn't try the speaker, or they'd have noticed the muffled sound.


I'm not saying that this would have been the case with your phone.  I'm just 
sharing my own experience.


Take care,
Lois

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From: Wayne Merritt

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:31 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Advice for those with the new iPhone 7 or 7 Plus

Greetings. I know it is a generic subject, but this is a cautionary
tale for those that have the new iPhone 7 or 7 Plus phones. If you
have any hesitation of your phone not working as expected, don't wait
a long time or think that the problem will go away or will fix itself,
before you take your device back to an Apple Store. In my own case, I
accidentally dropped my new 7 in a bathtub with about 4 inches of
water. I pulled the phone out, dried it off, but noticed that the
speaker did not seem as loud. I took my phone to the Apple Store and
had a technician look at it. He did several tests with the speaker and
the microphone, and he did find that a mike was not working as
expected. Then, no questions asked, he swapped my ten day old phone
out with a brand new one of the same color and gig size as my last
one. I took the new one home and was able to restore from my latest
ICloud backup, which happened to be that afternoon. I've heard on the
Macbreak Weekly podcast that the Apple Stores have a certain number of
phones available to swap out in these cases, and they will do the
swapping no questions asked if they can verify the problem. The deal
is you have to take your phone inwithin the first two weeks or so
after you get it. IN my case, the phone was advertised as being water
resistant, and a mike evidently had some water damage after the
phone's swim in the tub. However, if you hear hissing or other strange
noises from your new phone, then it is worth taking a trip to the
Apple Store.

Kind regards,
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Re: Notifications still interrupting well leading.

[Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון]

There is no anything you can to change. It works in this way.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-29 בספט׳ 2016, בשעה 12:19, ‏‏Jenifer Barr ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> Hi.
> I thought with the new iOS 10 update well readings a long block of text if 
> you got a notification I didn't interrupt? Mine still does. What do I have to 
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Notifications still interrupting well leading.

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi.
I thought with the new iOS 10 update well readings a long block of text if you 
got a notification I didn't interrupt? Mine still does. What do I have to 
change? Thanks all.

Sent from my iPhone

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