Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

I did the Restore phone to factory settings and retrieved all my apps. My phone 
only dropped 5% of battery power in 8 hours.
Problem solved!

Cheers,

Anne



> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:51, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy > > wrote:
>> 
>> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
>> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
>> about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and 
>> see the battery life difference.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
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>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Feliciano,
>>> 
>>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy >>> > wrote:
 
 I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
 having.
 
 Regards,
 Feliciano
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 On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson >>> > wrote:
 
> Hello fellow listers,
> 
> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
> apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
> between 4 and 5% per hour.
> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
> was no noticeable battery drain.
> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
> 
> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
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No 2 finger double-tap on watch?

[Robin Christopherson]

Ioana

The two finger magic tap does work but only when you’re in the Now Playing 
screen. Get to this by pressing the Dock button on the side of the watch and 
choosing ‘Now Playing’. If you don’t see it there then play something on your 
phone using either the Music app or any app that plays media and then bring up 
the dock again and it should be the first item. When it’s open the two finger 
magic tap works to play/pause. I agree that it’s a shame it doesn’t work 
everywhere.

Thanks, Robin

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Re: Just doing some comparing of Apple TV and Amazon Firestick

[billy inglis]

Chris, I was only going by what Kodi have said on twitter, that Kodi can 
be installed on Apple TV, Billy


On 30/10/2016 19:17, christopher hallsworth wrote:

False. There is no Cody app in the app store. THe workaround then would be to 
install Cody on an iDevice and send the stream wirelessly to your TV using 
Airplay.



On 30 Oct 2016, at 10:51, billy inglis  wrote:

hi, Is it true Kodi can be installed on the Apple TV?, Billy

On 30/10/2016 00:54, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

Hi,

I have a Fire TV stick:

very limited accessibility.
The stock apps aren't accessible.
Very few third party apps aren't accessible.
Don't do it!!!

Cheers,
Ben.

On 10/30/16, Terri Stimmel  wrote:

Hello everyone,


I am trying to decide where to go next, when it comes to my Apple TV.

I love my Apple Tv, and enjoy it very much! I use it all the time.


However, while I want to upgrade, I do have some concerns about the
learning curve. But even more, I have concerns about the cost.

I don't really have the money to purchase a new model, and I most likely
won't for some time now. I know this might not seem like a lot of money
for some of you, and I think this is wonderful!

But unfortunately for me, it is.


So I was looking at the Amazon tv Firestick.

Does anyone on this list know much about this thing?

If not, could someone kindly direct me to a list, where there are blind
people who do know about this?


Also, is this device accessible at all?

If so, by how much? Will only part of it talk?

Would I be able to download apps?


Also, from what I read, it mentioned that you can get a subscription to
Sling tv. From what I understand, Sling tv isn't accessible at all.

So if I got a subscription on the Firestick, wouldn't it likely not be
accessible?


Any help with this, or thoughts on the matter, would be very much
appreciated.


Thank you for reading, and letting me make comparisons.


Terri

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Re: comparisons on apple tv and the fire stick

[billy inglis]

hi Paddy, I have been considering purchasing an Apple TV for sometime 
now, but hesitate as I'm not completely sure about the content of the Apple.

Would you please tell me alittle more about the Amazon Fire TV?, Billy

On 30/10/2016 12:12, pattigj1...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't have the stick, but I do have the Amazon Fire tv and happen to like
it very much.

For me I like it better than Apple because it has more content to my liking.

Just thought I'd mention it, I don't know that much about the stick and the
purpose for it but I am very happy with my Amazon Fire  TV.

The Voice View is very nice, same voice that is on the Echo.  In fact I have
some echo capabilities on it because it has Alexa and I can use it with
music, for instance.

Just saying, not wanting to start anything, grin. I have also heard that
voice to speech capability may be coming to the roku.

That would be nice.



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Bluetooth Headset with Extendable or Boom Microphone

[Charles Spicer]

Good morning all,

I am looking for a bluetooth headset with either an extendable or boom
microphone.  It can be either a single or stereo model.  Do anyone of
you use such a headset or have any recommendations.


Thank you in advance for your help.

Best Regards,

Charles

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Re: Bluetooth Headset with Extendable or Boom Microphone

[Richard]

Logitech H800 Bluetooth headset.
HTH,
Rick
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Subject: Bluetooth Headset with Extendable or Boom Microphone


Good morning all,

I am looking for a bluetooth headset with either an extendable or boom
microphone.  It can be either a single or stereo model.  Do anyone of
you use such a headset or have any recommendations.


Thank you in advance for your help.

Best Regards,

Charles

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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Richard Turner]

I have not been following this thread. How much room do you have on the phone?
Richard


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(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:43 PM, Jan Kleinhans 
mailto:jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net>> wrote:

Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data is off, 
and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for updating.  I 
will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole thing as a new 
phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all the same for helping.

Jan

- Original Message - From: "Shai" 
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Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


Hello Jan,
It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get
the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is
connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after
resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the
Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data
and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure
that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in
settings/cellular.
If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the
phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.


On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans 
mailto:jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net>> wrote:
Hi all

Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I
tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to be a
problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, then
after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" and I
then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same thing
happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting with
the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network settings,
no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  It is
a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I have
used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there were no
problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this
phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean install,
redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old backup.
So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be something
else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt this,
so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Paul Richard McGann]

richard and jan, 

remind you that if app store is made automatically for updating versions of any 
apps, I remind you that we never know when it is time to find new versions of 
apps being updated automatically. if it happens on air, that is it.

I never expect that there are versions that could be upgraded automatically as 
after ios 9.2 and I got puzzled how all upgrading of any apps being 
automatically done. 

sincerely, 
rich 


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


I have not been following this thread. How much room do you have on the phone?
Richard



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On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:43 PM, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:


  Hi

  Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data is 
off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for updating.  
I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole thing as a new 
phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all the same for helping.

  Jan

  - Original Message - From: "Shai" 
  To: 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



Hello Jan,

It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get

the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is

connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after

resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the

Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data

and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure

that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in

settings/cellular.

If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the

phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.





On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:

  Hi all



  Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I

  tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to be 
a

  problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, then

  after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" and 
I

  then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same thing

  happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting with

  the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network settings,

  no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  It 
is

  a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I 
have

  used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there were 
no

  problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this

  phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,

  redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.

  So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something

  else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt this,

  so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.



  Jan Kleinhans



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RE: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Todd Patkus]

Richard and Jan,

 

What Rich means is that, almost similar to Windows updates, there are some 
updates hidden in updates automatically downloaded/installed even wihtout our 
knowledge they are done that way.  That is all.

 

Todd

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Richard McGann
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

 

richard and jan, 

 

remind you that if app store is made automatically for updating versions of any 
apps, I remind you that we never know when it is time to find new versions of 
apps being updated automatically. if it happens on air, that is it.

 

I never expect that there are versions that could be upgraded automatically as 
after ios 9.2 and I got puzzled how all upgrading of any apps being 
automatically done. 

 

sincerely, 

rich 

 

 

From: Richard Turner   

Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

 

 

I have not been following this thread. How much room do you have on the phone?

Richard

 

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."

- Satsuki Shibuya

 

 

(Sent from my iPod 6)


On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:43 PM, Jan Kleinhans mailto:jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> > wrote:

Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data is off, 
and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for updating.  I 
will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole thing as a new 
phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all the same for helping.

Jan

- Original Message - From: "Shai" mailto:shai...@gmail.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1





Hello Jan,

It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get

the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is

connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after

resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the

Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data

and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure

that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in

settings/cellular.

If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the

phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.

 

 

On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans mailto:jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net> > wrote:

Hi all

 

Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I

tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to be a

problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, then

after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" and I

then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same thing

happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting with

the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network settings,

no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  It is

a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I have

used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there were no

problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this

phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean install,

redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old backup.

So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be something

else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt this,

so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

It's a 64 gb phone, 50,5 gb left on the phone.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1




  I have not been following this thread. How much room do you have on the phone?
  Richard



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  (Sent from my iPod 6)

  On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:43 PM, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:


Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data is 
off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for updating.  
I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole thing as a new 
phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all the same for helping.

Jan

- Original Message - From: "Shai" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



  Hello Jan,

  It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get

  the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is

  connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after

  resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the

  Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data

  and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure

  that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in

  settings/cellular.

  If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the

  phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.





  On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:

Hi all



Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I

tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to 
be a

problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, 
then

after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" 
and I

then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same 
thing

happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting 
with

the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network 
settings,

no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  
It is

a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I 
have

used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there 
were no

problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this

phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,

redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.

So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something

else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt 
this,

so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Jan Kleinhans



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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks for that.  Yes, I have switched off the automatic updates for apps, 
rather doing that manually.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Richard McGann 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:04 PM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


  richard and jan, 

  remind you that if app store is made automatically for updating versions of 
any apps, I remind you that we never know when it is time to find new versions 
of apps being updated automatically. if it happens on air, that is it.

  I never expect that there are versions that could be upgraded automatically 
as after ios 9.2 and I got puzzled how all upgrading of any apps being 
automatically done. 

  sincerely, 
  rich 


  From: Richard Turner 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


  I have not been following this thread. How much room do you have on the phone?
  Richard



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  (Sent from my iPod 6)

  On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:43 PM, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:


Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data is 
off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for updating.  
I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole thing as a new 
phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all the same for helping.

Jan

- Original Message - From: "Shai" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



  Hello Jan,

  It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get

  the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is

  connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after

  resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the

  Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data

  and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure

  that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in

  settings/cellular.

  If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the

  phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.





  On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:

Hi all



Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I

tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to 
be a

problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, 
then

after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" 
and I

then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same 
thing

happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting 
with

the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network 
settings,

no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  
It is

a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I 
have

used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there 
were no

problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this

phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,

redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.

So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something

else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt 
this,

so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Jan Kleinhans



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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Fanus]

Hello Jan
I do not know if it will help but a few updates ago my 5S did the same trick. 
For some reason I decided to go into the privacy setting and I turned automatic 
updates off. It used to be off so why it came on again I do not know But after 
turning it off I could do the update. Why this caused the problem is not clear. 
Regards
Fanus


From: Jan Kleinhans 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

Hi

It's a 64 gb phone, 50,5 gb left on the phone.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


  I have not been following this thread. How much room do you have on the phone?
  Richard



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  - Satsuki Shibuya




  (Sent from my iPod 6)

  On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:43 PM, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:


Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data is 
off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for updating.  
I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole thing as a new 
phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all the same for helping.

Jan

- Original Message - From: "Shai" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



  Hello Jan,

  It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get

  the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is

  connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after

  resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the

  Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data

  and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure

  that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in

  settings/cellular.

  If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the

  phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.





  On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:

Hi all



Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I

tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to 
be a

problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, 
then

after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" 
and I

then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same 
thing

happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting 
with

the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network 
settings,

no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  
It is

a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I 
have

used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there 
were no

problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this

phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,

redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.

So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something

else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt 
this,

so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Jan Kleinhans



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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Fanus]

Hello Jan
Sorry, it is not in Privacy but general then “background app refresh”.
Regards
Fanus


From: Jan Kleinhans 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

Hi

It's a 64 gb phone, 50,5 gb left on the phone.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


  I have not been following this thread. How much room do you have on the phone?
  Richard



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  - Satsuki Shibuya




  (Sent from my iPod 6)

  On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:43 PM, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:


Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data is 
off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for updating.  
I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole thing as a new 
phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all the same for helping.

Jan

- Original Message - From: "Shai" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



  Hello Jan,

  It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get

  the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is

  connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after

  resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the

  Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data

  and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure

  that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in

  settings/cellular.

  If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the

  phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.





  On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:

Hi all



Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I

tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to 
be a

problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, 
then

after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" 
and I

then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same 
thing

happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting 
with

the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network 
settings,

no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  
It is

a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I 
have

used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there 
were no

problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this

phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,

redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.

So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something

else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt 
this,

so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Jan Kleinhans



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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Fanus]

Hello Anne
I experience the same problem with the iPhone 5S. I shall test to see if my 
problem is also VO related.
Regards
Fanus


From: Anne Robertson 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

Cheers,

Anne



  On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

  Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about 
if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

  Regards, 
  Feliciano 
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  On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:


Hello Feliciano,

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

Cheers,

Anne



  On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy  
wrote:

  I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
having.

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  On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson  
wrote:


Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a 
sudden excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
between 4 and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
was no noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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RE: A new question about the time warner app

[Terrie Terlau]

Hi Andy,
How did you set up the account on your PC? Is there a link to do so on the TWC 
website? After setting up on your PC, can you then watch cable TV on your PC? 
Do you still download and install the TWC app on your phone?
Sorry for all the questions -- I appreciate your answers and list input very 
much.
Terrie Terlau


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A new question about the time warner app

I actually found it easier to set up the account on the PC and then to log 
in on the app using my Email and password. Spectrum is saying that for the 
time being, to continue to use the TW web site and TWC TV app, but at some 
point that will change.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Donna
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 6:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A new question about the time warner app

You can search the app store using TWC. This should bring up 63 results. 
When I registered to use the app I needed my TWC email & password. Can't 
recall if a phone number or the TWC account number could have been used in 
place of the TWC email. Just so you know...if you don't live in the same 
home as your parents, you will be limited to watching only a few channels. 
If you live with your parents you will have access to all of the channels 
when using the app

Donna
>
> Hi my parents have time Warner cable.
> Now if I down load the TWC app what do I look for in the app store for 
> this app?
> Also then once I have this app installed how then do I set it up?
> Like what all user information do I need to enter in the app so I can use 
> the app on my phone?
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Re: Calendar question

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Please keep on list as it may be useful to me also.


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On 29/10/2016 20:48, Roger Frischenmeyer wrote:

Hi, is there a way to sync my iOS calendar with my Google calendar? If so can 
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low power mode question

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi all.  What would be the drawbacks to keeping the phone on low power mode?
I'm running IOS 10 with 10.1.  I'm using it to conserve battery, and
everything seems to be working well, at least on my WIFI network.  Haven't
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Re: Bluetooth Headset with Extendable or Boom Microphone

[Andy Baracco]

Plantronics Voyager legend or Edge.

Andy


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Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset with Extendable or Boom Microphone

Logitech H800 Bluetooth headset.
HTH,
Rick
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Subject: Bluetooth Headset with Extendable or Boom Microphone


Good morning all,

I am looking for a bluetooth headset with either an extendable or boom
microphone.  It can be either a single or stereo model.  Do anyone of
you use such a headset or have any recommendations.


Thank you in advance for your help.

Best Regards,

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Re: A new question about the time warner app

[Andy Baracco]

I set up the account on the PC at the TWC site, and after downloading the 
app on the phone I launched it and logged in on the phone. I do not know if 
you can watch TV on the PC, but I don't think so.


Andy


-Original Message- 
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Subject: RE: A new question about the time warner app

Hi Andy,
How did you set up the account on your PC? Is there a link to do so on the 
TWC website? After setting up on your PC, can you then watch cable TV on 
your PC? Do you still download and install the TWC app on your phone?
Sorry for all the questions -- I appreciate your answers and list input very 
much.

Terrie Terlau


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I actually found it easier to set up the account on the PC and then to log
in on the app using my Email and password. Spectrum is saying that for the
time being, to continue to use the TW web site and TWC TV app, but at some
point that will change.

Andy


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Subject: Re: A new question about the time warner app

You can search the app store using TWC. This should bring up 63 results.
When I registered to use the app I needed my TWC email & password. Can't
recall if a phone number or the TWC account number could have been used in
place of the TWC email. Just so you know...if you don't live in the same
home as your parents, you will be limited to watching only a few channels.
If you live with your parents you will have access to all of the channels
when using the app

Donna


Hi my parents have time Warner cable.
Now if I down load the TWC app what do I look for in the app store for
this app?
Also then once I have this app installed how then do I set it up?
Like what all user information do I need to enter in the app so I can use
the app on my phone?


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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi 

Thanks Fanus, will have a look at that lot as well, mine is normally also 
turned off though, but will give it a try.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 4:29 PM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


  Hello Jan
  I do not know if it will help but a few updates ago my 5S did the same trick. 
For some reason I decided to go into the privacy setting and I turned automatic 
updates off. It used to be off so why it came on again I do not know But after 
turning it off I could do the update. Why this caused the problem is not clear. 
  Regards
  Fanus


  From: Jan Kleinhans 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

  Hi

  It's a 64 gb phone, 50,5 gb left on the phone.

  Jan

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


I have not been following this thread. How much room do you have on the 
phone?
Richard



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On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:43 PM, Jan Kleinhans  
wrote:


  Hi

  Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data 
is off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for 
updating.  I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole 
thing as a new phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all the 
same for helping.

  Jan

  - Original Message - From: "Shai" 
  To: 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



Hello Jan,

It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get

the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is

connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after

resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the

Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data

and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure

that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in

settings/cellular.

If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the

phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.





On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:

  Hi all



  Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, 
I

  tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems 
to be a

  problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, 
then

  after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" 
and I

  then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same 
thing

  happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting 
with

  the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network 
settings,

  no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time. 
 It is

  a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  
I have

  used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there 
were no

  problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this

  phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,

  redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.

  So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something

  else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt 
this,

  so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.



  Jan Kleinhans



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RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[Rizzino, Bonnie]

Wow Evan, Wouldn’t Rich Parker haved loved all the technology we have today?


From: Evan Reese [mailto:ment...@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 11:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Hi Larry,
Well, some people are having problems and some aren’t. It’s a mystery for sure.
Evan

From: Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 12:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Sorry Evan.   I’ve got the app on a new iphone 7 running ios 10 and it works 
fine.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.
But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.
I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.
Evan

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?
I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.
HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.
I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.
So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.
But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.
I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.
I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.
I am now more mystified than ever.
Anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks very much.
Evan

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Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[Evan Reese]

Hi Bonnie,
He certainly would have. He always loved gadgets and gizmos. I’m sure he would 
have an iPhone if he were here, probably the latest model as soon as it came 
out.
Evan

From: Rizzino, Bonnie 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 12:54 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Wow Evan, Wouldn’t Rich Parker haved loved all the technology we have today?

 

 

From: Evan Reese [mailto:ment...@dslextreme.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 11:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Hi Larry,

Well, some people are having problems and some aren’t. It’s a mystery for sure.

Evan

 

From: Larry Lumpkin 

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 12:37 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Sorry Evan.   I’ve got the app on a new iphone 7 running ios 10 and it works 
fine.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.

But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.

I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.

Evan

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

 

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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Shai]

Hello Jan,
Now that iOS 10.1.1 has been released, you may want to try again.
Perhaps you will be able to download the update this time.
Good luck.


On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:
> Hi
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data is
> off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for
> updating.  I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole
> thing as a new phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all
> the same for helping.
>
> Jan
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Shai" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1
>
>
>> Hello Jan,
>> It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get
>> the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is
>> connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after
>> resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the
>> Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data
>> and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure
>> that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in
>> settings/cellular.
>> If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the
>> phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.
>>
>>
>> On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I
>>> tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to be
>>>
>>> a
>>> problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update,
>>> then
>>> after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" and
>>>
>>> I
>>> then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same
>>> thing
>>> happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting
>>> with
>>> the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network
>>> settings,
>>> no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  It
>>>
>>> is
>>> a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I
>>> have
>>> used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there were
>>>
>>> no
>>> problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this
>>> phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean
>>> install,
>>> redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old
>>> backup.
>>> So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be
>>> something
>>> else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt
>>> this,
>>> so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Jan Kleinhans
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RE: apple tv confusion

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Kliph,

I just read a couple of days ago AT&T was buying Time Warner.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kliphton Miller
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 2:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple tv confusion

As it stands now you need a subscription to access the major networks.  But by 
the beginning of next year we will have multiple streaming options.
Google is coming out with what they call "google unplugged". They claim to 
already signed a deal with CBS, Hulu can't even say that.  they claim to have 
all the disney and ESPN channels, along with fox and NBC networks.
Hulu claims to have a streaming service coming, and says there's will be priced 
with all compitition.
SlingTV already has a streaming app, but it's not very accessible, and 
depending on your area, the feed is a bit choppy at best.
Now, directv says there's will be ready by the end of the year, and claim they 
will offer over 100 channels, even wants there current customers to eventually 
migrate to the directv now app, so they can cut out technicians and equipment.  
They also are trying to buy time warner, so we will see how this all plays out. 
 I hope directv does launch there app soon,cause rumor has it, they will offer 
the sunday ticket for the Nfl as a stand alone package too.  Guess we will see.

Kliph
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On Oct 29, 2016, at 8:26 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:

You will need to keep a cable subscription to access most of what is available 
on Apple TV. There is free content but if you want to access shows on those 
apps that you mentioned, you will need to sign in with your cable provider's 
cradentials in order to do so.

-Original Message- From: david gross
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple tv confusion

I am still stuck in a cable contract but hope to cut the cord when it is up.

I am still confused about apple tv and what it can do.

Can I cut the cord as far as tv and phone and keep my internet to use apple tv? 
Or do I still need a cable subscription to use it?

My wife has favorite shows on he 4 major networks as well as tlc, Lifetime, and 
Hallmark movie channel. I am interested in the mlb network.

With apple tv, are all these choices available?

With apple tv do you need apps from each network, or does hulu or netflicks 
allow access to most everything?

What is the delay time in obtaining a show? If survivor is on cbs this 
wednesday, when can a apple tv userr get it?

Can apple tv be used with apps already on our other apple devices?

Any feedback is appreciated.

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Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everybody,

I found a deal on Best Buy for a 64 gig Apple TV. I was wondering if this was 
really a good deal, or not. The unit is refurbished, but this does not bother 
me.

They are asking $470.

What do you all think? I'm sorry, that was supposed to be, they are asking for 
$170.
What do you all think? Is this deal worth it?
I unfortunately got installed the Best Buy app, because I find it to be a bit 
of a pain to use.
However, it had all of my information. Now that I have reinstalled it, of 
course all of that is gone. So now I have to do that part all over again, which 
is rather irritating!

I would like to purchase this, but only if it is really a good deal. If not. I 
would use to wait. I think that would be better.

Can you help with this would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: Apple TV, another one

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Gordan,

Apple TV is very limited right now, it does not replace cable or satellite. 
There are a lot of channels in the US you can watch via Apple TV, but in order 
to do so you still need to have access to these channels already via cable or 
satellite. I am in Canada and even here it is more limited still in many ways. 
This is still all very fragmented and while I’m sure Apple would like to offer 
all these channels, it means making deals with the content providers who own 
these channels.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 3:56 AM
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Subject: Apple TV, another one


Hi!

I see some discussions on Apple TV but I have some more questions considering 
the fact I don't live in the US, Canada or UK.

What we have here is some digital TV channels over the air which you can watch 
using the air antenna and some cable/adsl operators providing packages of 
channels for monthly subscription. For most operators we need to have 
analog/digital HD receivers patched via analog or HDMI through TV sets.

I already know I can't use the Apple TV over the air, there's no way to receive 
digital signal from the air. I wonder is it possible to use Apple TV instead of 
receivers offered by TV operators or it is just limited to internet streams?

Thanks!



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What kind of apps can be put on the new Apple TV?

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello once more everybody,

I realize it is a personal choice as to what you put on your Apple TV.
But I was just wondering, what type of apps do you aren't used to have on your 
new Apple TV?
Of course, I have subscriptions to Hulu, Netflix, and CBS all access. So I know 
that they are likely already there, just like they are on my Apple TV I have 
now.
But I was wondering, what other types of TV apps can I add?
And are there fees for these apps? If so about how much do they run, or does it 
just depend on the app itself? Now personally, I don't want games, music, 
audiobooks, or anything like that on my AppleTV. This is just my personal 
choice. This is why I choose to have the iPad mini. So if there are other apps 
out there that might be enjoyable, that deal with TV, or movies, then I would 
really love to hear about them. I do not have cable, so subscriptions to some 
of my favorite shows are possible. This makes me sad. Any help with any of this 
would be great! I would really appreciate it.

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: Adding contacts to favourites

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Andrew,

I just went through the same thing as my iPhone 6S Plus was replaced on 
warranty and I set the replacement phone up as a new phone, then updated it (it 
still had 9.0.2 on it) and then I added my email accounts, contacts etc. 
Anyhow, here is what you do:

Go into the contact you want to add to Favorites
Double tap on Add to Favorites
The “Add to Favorites” menu pops up and you probably have something like this:
Message, mobile or maybe you have Message, iPhone
Call, Mobile or Call, iPhone
Mail

If you listen closely when you swipe to where it says “Call” you will notice 
that Voiceover says “Actions available”. This means the action rotor is 
present. Swipe down and you will hear “Show Options”. Double tap on that and 
you now see all numbers available for the contact and you can pick the one you 
want to add as a favorite.
The same goes once you have a number added to Favorites. There used to be a 
“More Info” button to the right of the numbers and this opened the contact and 
you could pick another number, now you have to swipe down on the Favorite to 
accomplish this.

Regards,
Sieghard


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Andrew Roberts
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Adding contacts to favourites

Hi,

I am using an iPhone 7 running iOS10.

I have a few contacts who have several numbers, an iPhone, home, and work 
number.  I am in a position where I would like to take one of these contacts 
and add all three of these numbers to my favourite contacts.  Unfortunately the 
only one it seems to allow me to add is the iPhone number.  Does anyone know 
how I accomplish adding the other two numbers to favourites?  I was able to do 
this on my iPhone5S running iOS9.

Many thanks,

Andrew
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Fanus,

I had to restore my phone to factory settings and reinstall all my apps to fix 
the problem. My iPhone is now behaving itself beautifully.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 31 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Fanus  wrote:
> 
> Hello Anne
> I experience the same problem with the iPhone 5S. I shall test to see if my 
> problem is also VO related.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: Anne Robertson <>
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy > 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
>> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
>> about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and 
>> see the battery life difference.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
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>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Feliciano,
>>>  
>>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>>>  
>>> Cheers,
>>>  
>>> Anne
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
 On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy > 
 wrote:
  
 I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
 having.
 
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> Hello fellow listers,
> 
> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
> apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
> between 4 and 5% per hour.
> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
> was no noticeable battery drain.
> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
> 
> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
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> 
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Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

[Mary Otten]

Well, I wouldn't do it. That's not that much cheaper than the new one. And if 
money is a problem, you could get the 32 GB one new for cheaper, and probably 
cheaper than that refurbished. You probably will not need the 64 GB model. Just 
don't download screen savers that you can't look at. Apps are not large. We 
have the 32 GB model, and we are nowhere near running out of space. Just my 
opinion.


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> On Oct 31, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I found a deal on Best Buy for a 64 gig Apple TV. I was wondering if this was 
> really a good deal, or not. The unit is refurbished, but this does not bother 
> me.
> 
> They are asking $470.
> 
> What do you all think? I'm sorry, that was supposed to be, they are asking 
> for $170.
> What do you all think? Is this deal worth it?
> I unfortunately got installed the Best Buy app, because I find it to be a bit 
> of a pain to use.
> However, it had all of my information. Now that I have reinstalled it, of 
> course all of that is gone. So now I have to do that part all over again, 
> which is rather irritating!
> 
> I would like to purchase this, but only if it is really a good deal. If not. 
> I would use to wait. I think that would be better.
> 
> Can you help with this would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri
> 
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RE: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sounds like a poor or slow WiFi connection.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shai
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

Hello Jan,
It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get the 
phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is connected to 
WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after resetting network 
settings? Are you able to launch and browse the Internet with Safari? You might 
want to try disabling cellular data and seeing if you could do the update this 
way. That way you are sure that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular 
data in settings/cellular.
If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the phone as new 
again to get it to update to iOS10.1.


On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, 
> I tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems 
> to be a problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the 
> update, then after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error 
> downloading update" and I then can close it or retry.  Now, I have 
> tried numerous times, same thing happening.  I have restarted the 
> phone by switching it off, rebooting with the multiple presses of the 
> power button, I've reset the network settings, no apps in the app 
> switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  It is a 64 gb 
> phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I have 
> used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there 
> were no problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I 
> got this phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
> install, redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
> backup.
> So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
> something else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I 
> attempt this, so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly 
> appreciated.
>
> Jan Kleinhans
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RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Did you try a Reset Network Settings first, this often will fix battery issues 
and it leaves all your apps and settings alone, all you have to do is sign back 
in to your WiFi.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hello Fanus,

I had to restore my phone to factory settings and reinstall all my apps to fix 
the problem. My iPhone is now behaving itself beautifully.

Cheers,

Anne



On 31 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Fanus 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Anne
I experience the same problem with the iPhone 5S. I shall test to see if my 
problem is also VO related.
Regards
Fanus


From: Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy 
mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson 
mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Feliciano,

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy 
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I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson 
mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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Re: What kind of apps can be put on the new Apple TV?

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi

we only have Netflix here in both the UK and US, the other apps are only 
available in the Uk. These are NOW TV, BBC iPlayer and TV Player.


> On 31 Oct 2016, at 17:54, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello once more everybody,
> 
> I realize it is a personal choice as to what you put on your Apple TV.
> But I was just wondering, what type of apps do you aren't used to have on 
> your new Apple TV?
> Of course, I have subscriptions to Hulu, Netflix, and CBS all access. So I 
> know that they are likely already there, just like they are on my Apple TV I 
> have now.
> But I was wondering, what other types of TV apps can I add?
> And are there fees for these apps? If so about how much do they run, or does 
> it just depend on the app itself? Now personally, I don't want games, music, 
> audiobooks, or anything like that on my AppleTV. This is just my personal 
> choice. This is why I choose to have the iPad mini. So if there are other 
> apps out there that might be enjoyable, that deal with TV, or movies, then I 
> would really love to hear about them. I do not have cable, so subscriptions 
> to some of my favorite shows are possible. This makes me sad. Any help with 
> any of this would be great! I would really appreciate it.
> 
> Thank you,
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Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

[MamaPeach]

$470? for a 64 gig 4th generation model? That is crazy when you can buy a new 
one for $199.

From: Terri Stimmel 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

Hello everybody,

I found a deal on Best Buy for a 64 gig Apple TV. I was wondering if this was 
really a good deal, or not. The unit is refurbished, but this does not bother 
me.

They are asking $470.

What do you all think? I'm sorry, that was supposed to be, they are asking for 
$170.
What do you all think? Is this deal worth it?
I unfortunately got installed the Best Buy app, because I find it to be a bit 
of a pain to use.
However, it had all of my information. Now that I have reinstalled it, of 
course all of that is gone. So now I have to do that part all over again, which 
is rather irritating!

I would like to purchase this, but only if it is really a good deal. If not. I 
would use to wait. I think that would be better.

Can you help with this would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

[MamaPeach]

Oh, okay, but still for $29 more, you can have a new model.

From: Terri Stimmel 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

Hello everybody,

I found a deal on Best Buy for a 64 gig Apple TV. I was wondering if this was 
really a good deal, or not. The unit is refurbished, but this does not bother 
me.

They are asking $470.

What do you all think? I'm sorry, that was supposed to be, they are asking for 
$170.
What do you all think? Is this deal worth it?
I unfortunately got installed the Best Buy app, because I find it to be a bit 
of a pain to use.
However, it had all of my information. Now that I have reinstalled it, of 
course all of that is gone. So now I have to do that part all over again, which 
is rather irritating!

I would like to purchase this, but only if it is really a good deal. If not. I 
would use to wait. I think that would be better.

Can you help with this would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

[MamaPeach]

That is what I would go with since you don’t want music, games, or books, the 
32 gig would be the way to go for $149.

From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

Well, I wouldn't do it. That's not that much cheaper than the new one. And if 
money is a problem, you could get the 32 GB one new for cheaper, and probably 
cheaper than that refurbished. You probably will not need the 64 GB model. Just 
don't download screen savers that you can't look at. Apps are not large. We 
have the 32 GB model, and we are nowhere near running out of space. Just my 
opinion.



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On Oct 31, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:


  Hello everybody,

  I found a deal on Best Buy for a 64 gig Apple TV. I was wondering if this was 
really a good deal, or not. The unit is refurbished, but this does not bother 
me.

  They are asking $470.

  What do you all think? I'm sorry, that was supposed to be, they are asking 
for $170.
  What do you all think? Is this deal worth it?
  I unfortunately got installed the Best Buy app, because I find it to be a bit 
of a pain to use.
  However, it had all of my information. Now that I have reinstalled it, of 
course all of that is gone. So now I have to do that part all over again, which 
is rather irritating!

  I would like to purchase this, but only if it is really a good deal. If not. 
I would use to wait. I think that would be better.

  Can you help with this would be very much appreciated.

  Thank you,

  Terri

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Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello Mary, and mama peach, I appreciate both of your thoughts on the subject. 
I appreciate what you had to say, and that you supported what you had to say. 
It really made me think, and it's making this process just a bit more easier 
for me. So that makes me happy. This isn't an easy thing for me, because I 
don't like change, or upgrades, or updates. Although, I am starting to like 
more updates, as that usually makes things better. Even if you have to wait for 
another update, to get some bugs fixed sometimes.

But what I don't really understand is, why they are offering these newer Apple 
TVs with all this space. I mean, if you want everything to stream from your TV, 
set of books, and games, and the like, then that makes sense. But I don't, as I 
have said before. So I guess this must put me in the minority.

If I get a 32 gig model, I don't know what to put on it. I don't know how to 
make it useful. I'm really confused here. Maybe I am overthinking it, but that 
is just how I am, and who I am. That's not an easy thing to change about one's 
self.

Thank you for understanding, and reading this message. And again, thank you so 
very much for the advice.

Terri

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On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:53 PM -0500, "MamaPeach" 
mailto:mamape...@charter.net>> wrote:

That is what I would go with since you don't want music, games, or books, the 
32 gig would be the way to go for $149.

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

Well, I wouldn't do it. That's not that much cheaper than the new one. And if 
money is a problem, you could get the 32 GB one new for cheaper, and probably 
cheaper than that refurbished. You probably will not need the 64 GB model. Just 
don't download screen savers that you can't look at. Apps are not large. We 
have the 32 GB model, and we are nowhere near running out of space. Just my 
opinion.


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On Oct 31, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Terri Stimmel 
mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello everybody,

I found a deal on Best Buy for a 64 gig Apple TV. I was wondering if this was 
really a good deal, or not. The unit is refurbished, but this does not bother 
me.

They are asking $470.

What do you all think? I'm sorry, that was supposed to be, they are asking for 
$170.
What do you all think? Is this deal worth it?
I unfortunately got installed the Best Buy app, because I find it to be a bit 
of a pain to use.
However, it had all of my information. Now that I have reinstalled it, of 
course all of that is gone. So now I have to do that part all over again, which 
is rather irritating!

I would like to purchase this, but only if it is really a good deal. If not. I 
would use to wait. I think that would be better.

Can you help with this would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Paul Richard McGann]

jan,

I have no trouble with ios 10.1 at all. there are very slight issues that 
can be bugs, but can be resolved later.


jan, you need to contact apple accessibilities in email and let them know or 
call them about it. thye can take care and make easier. your contact is 
important to hep them knowing.


sincerely,
rich


-Original Message- 
From: Shai

Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

Hello Jan,
Now that iOS 10.1.1 has been released, you may want to try again.
Perhaps you will be able to download the update this time.
Good luck.


On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:

Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data is
off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for
updating.  I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole
thing as a new phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all
the same for helping.

Jan

- Original Message -
From: "Shai" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



Hello Jan,
It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get
the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is
connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after
resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the
Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data
and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure
that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in
settings/cellular.
If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the
phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.


On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:

Hi all

Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I
tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to 
be


a
problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update,
then
after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" 
and


I
then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same
thing
happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting
with
the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network
settings,
no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time. 
It


is
a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I
have
used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there 
were


no
problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this
phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean
install,
redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old
backup.
So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be
something
else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt
this,
so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jan Kleinhans

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iOS 10.1.1 Is Now Available:

[Gary Bowers]

forbes.com
Apple iOS 10.1.1 Is Now Available: What Is Included In The Update?
Amit Chowdhry
Apple has released iOS 10.1.1 to the general public today. The iOS 10.1.1
update comes one week after iOS 10.1 was released. The reason why Apple
quickly issued this software update is because it fixes a bug that Forbes
contributor Gordon Kelly reported exclusively last week. Apple declined to
reply to requests to acknowledge the bug until now. You can install iOS
10.1.1 by connecting your device to iTunes or downloading it by going to
Settings > General > Software Update. The iOS 10.1.1 update is available for
the following devices: iPhone 5 and later, iPad 4th generation and later and
iPod touch 6th generation and later.
What Is Included In The Update?
The software update is relatively small at under 70MB, which indicates that
it is a minor update with a few bug fixes. There weren’t any betas of iOS
10.1.1 either. And the changelog of the iOS 10.1.1 software update
says: “This update fixes bugs including an issue where Health data could not
be viewed for some users.” 
There were many complaints about health data not being visible following the
iOS 10.1.1 update within the Apple Communities forum so it is a relief that
Apple turned around a fix in a short amount of time:

And Forbes contributor Gordon Kelly said that he was contacted by many
people directly “with stories of hours spent on the phone to Apple tech
support, all without resolution.” Many Twitter users also said that they
attempted to reboot and factory reset the devices, but the Health app data
did not reappear:

iOS 10.1 was somewhat of a major update. iOS 10.1 included a “Portrait”
mode, which helps make the most out of the dual cameras in the iPhone 7
Plus. The Portrait camera mode essentially utilized the wide-angle and
telephoto iPhone 7 lenses in a way to create portraits with depth effects.
This makes the subjects of the photos look sharp while also creating blurred
backgrounds, known as “bokeh” effects. iOS 10.1 also included Transit
directions for Apple Maps in Japan. And iOS 10.1 also added a “Reduce
Motion” setting for the Bubble and Screen effects in the Messages app.

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Re: NantMobile Money Reader, was RE: So American money identifier?

[Monica Jones]

I haven't gotten this app to work for me. When it was the Looktel money 
reader, I clicked a button and it immediately told me what it was. There 
seems to be no such button and if I just hold a bill in front of it, I get 
nothing.



-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: NantMobile Money Reader, was RE: So American money identifier?

In the app description of NantMobile Money Reader, it says the following:

Twenty one currencies are supported: the US Dollar, Australian Dollar, 
Bahraini Dinar, Brazilian Real, Belarusian Ruble, British Pound, Canadian 
Dollar, Euro, Hungarian Forint, Israeli Shekel, Indian Rupee, Japanese Yen, 
Kuwaiti Dinar, Mexican Peso, New Zealand Dollar, Polish Zloty, Russian 
Ruble, Saudi Arabian Riyal, Singapore Dollar, and United Arab Emirates 
Dirham.


It looks like the Peru currency is not supported, only the Brazilian Real.

If you know anyone in the countries you are visiting, you could ask them if 
they have any apps in their stores.  It is likely that the currency will be 
identifiable by touch, but I don't know.  I know the United States, where I 
live, is not distinguishable by touch, but many, many other countries are.


Good luck,
Richard





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kimberly Samco

Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: So American money identifier?


First of all, thanks for the suggestions for converting currency!  Much 
appreciated.
Now, does anyone know of any money identifiers that work with So American 
currency, especially Peru but other countries as well.  I've written to the 
developers of KNFB Reader and LookTel and have not yet heard back so while 
I'm waiting I thought I'd ask here.


Thanks again!

Kim

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Re: are my voicemails gone forever now that I upgraded

[Monica Jones]

Yes, so have I and I have never lost voicemail when I’ve upgraded.


From: englishride...@gmail.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: are my voicemails gone forever now that I upgraded

That's strange. I've never had voicemail disappear on me, nor emails. I do make 
certain to do an encrypted backup in iTunes before updating to any iOS version, 
however. I would recommend doing so. Also, do you have visual voicemail 
enabled, or are you using your carrier's voicemail option? I don't think using 
your carrier's voicemail option would make any difference, but ever since I got 
my first iPhone, I've always used the visual voicemail option, and it's worked 
well for me.


Thanks,
Ari

On Oct 28, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Paul Ferrara  wrote:


  All, I seem to remember the last time I upgraded phones 18 months ago that 
email and voicemail was deleted, never to be found again.
  In the last 18 months, I had two voicemails I saved and wanted to keep 
forever; however, I forgot about my old ones disappearing. I couldn’t care less 
about the email; the voice mail—totally different thing. Is there anything at 
all I can do to retrieve them, or are they, as I suspect, permanently gone.

  Thanks.

  Paul
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Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

[MamaPeach]

I have a 64 gig model, probably didn’t need that big of one, but I got it 
because I wanted it. It would take you a long time to use 32 gigs, but they do 
add up over time, I have different things on mine, like Hulu, NetFlix, Pulse 
TV, Popcorn Flicks, Public Domain Movies, Free Classic Movies, Classic Films, 
Snag Films, Drive In Classics and other apps that allow me to watch old classic 
movies. I have radio station apps and video apps like YouTube. I have weather 
apps, I have news apps, I have sound apps for sleep and meditation, I have more 
on mine than I can actually remember right off the top of my head. I have iPods 
with many of the same apps but sometimes they just sound better coming from the 
speaker on my big screen TV.

From: Terri Stimmel 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

Hello Mary, and mama peach, I appreciate both of your thoughts on the subject. 
I appreciate what you had to say, and that you supported what you had to say. 
It really made me think, and it's making this process just a bit more easier 
for me. So that makes me happy. This isn't an easy thing for me, because I 
don't like change, or upgrades, or updates. Although, I am starting to like 
more updates, as that usually makes things better. Even if you have to wait for 
another update, to get some bugs fixed sometimes.

But what I don't really understand is, why they are offering these newer Apple 
TVs with all this space. I mean, if you want everything to stream from your TV, 
set of books, and games, and the like, then that makes sense. But I don't, as I 
have said before. So I guess this must put me in the minority.

If I get a 32 gig model, I don't know what to put on it. I don't know how to 
make it useful. I'm really confused here. Maybe I am overthinking it, but that 
is just how I am, and who I am. That's not an easy thing to change about one's 
self.

Thank you for understanding, and reading this message. And again, thank you so 
very much for the advice.

Terri

Get Outlook for iOS





On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:53 PM -0500, "MamaPeach"  
wrote:


That is what I would go with since you don’t want music, games, or books, the 
32 gig would be the way to go for $149.

From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

Well, I wouldn't do it. That's not that much cheaper than the new one. And if 
money is a problem, you could get the 32 GB one new for cheaper, and probably 
cheaper than that refurbished. You probably will not need the 64 GB model. Just 
don't download screen savers that you can't look at. Apps are not large. We 
have the 32 GB model, and we are nowhere near running out of space. Just my 
opinion.



Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:


  Hello everybody,

  I found a deal on Best Buy for a 64 gig Apple TV. I was wondering if this was 
really a good deal, or not. The unit is refurbished, but this does not bother 
me.

  They are asking $470.

  What do you all think? I'm sorry, that was supposed to be, they are asking 
for $170.
  What do you all think? Is this deal worth it?
  I unfortunately got installed the Best Buy app, because I find it to be a bit 
of a pain to use.
  However, it had all of my information. Now that I have reinstalled it, of 
course all of that is gone. So now I have to do that part all over again, which 
is rather irritating!

  I would like to purchase this, but only if it is really a good deal. If not. 
I would use to wait. I think that would be better.

  Can you help with this would be very much appreciated.

  Thank you,

  Terri

  Get Outlook for iOS

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Re: too much text games

[Monica Jones]

Someone mentioned that this game hadn't been updated. Well, there's no need 
for it to be; it's fun the way it is.



-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: too much text games

FYI, you don't know when you are at the end level because you just keep 
having to shoot more zombies and no next level comes up.  So, when you hit a 
level that lasts much longer than the previous ones, you are probably at the 
end.  Note the last line below from the description:

Description

Zombies from out of space invaded earth. Took all the women, good food and 
Jack's rubber ducky. Jack sets out on a zombie killing rampage to get back 
his rubber ducky so he can take a bath. Armed with a shotgun, machete and 
surrounded by zombies, Jack is certain to introduce those 
rubber-ducky-stealing alien zombies to a world of pain!


There's only one problem: Jack is blind. Use your hearing to locate the 
zombies before they attack. Pull the trigger or machete the hell out of 'm 
to retake Jack’s rubber ducky.


* 3D AUDIO ENGINE GIVES NEW MEANING TO FPS!

There are no visuals on the screen that are relevant to survival. Learn 
where the buttons are, close your eyes and trust your ears. The 3d Audio 
Augmented Reality Engine uses intelligent algorithms to reproduce how our 
ears hear perceive the world around us. This game literally demands a killer 
hearing…


Jack is a bad tempored alcoholic who doesn't care for anything but his 
rubber ducky. All Jack does is sit at home, jobless, looking at action 
movies or p*&#. If someone he doesn't know walks on his land, the shotgun 
and machete do the talking…


If you ever reach the endlevel, let us know on facebook or twitter. You 
might even win something like a rubber ducky.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Rajmund

Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 6:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: too much text games

Hi,
I tried it as well. Despite the warning messages of compatibility, it works 
on the 5S, with 10.1. As a matter of interest, I got as far as level 6.




Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: 'a^ffe™*a^ffe*îChuoq^00ab" é•fs3fl4fe' via VIPhone 


To: Richard Turner  
Date: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: too much text games




I have this game. And the six cents  as well.
I think the game you have introduced me they have never and.
And start updated since 2012.

Ming
Skype: chungchiming9950


> On 29 Oct 2016, at 7:11 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:

>
> If you have not tried Where's My Rubber Ducky, and you have an iPhone, 
> give=
> it a try. It is a Zombie shooting game. Be sure and read the 
> description. =
> It requires GPS as you have to actually turn the phone to get the zombie 
> in=
> the center of your headphones to shoot them. You have to where stereo 
> earp=

> hones.
>
> You can switch to a sword so it isn't quite so loud.
> You may also want to go to there web site to read more about it.
> here is the app store link:
> Where's my rubber ducky by Accessibility Foundation
> https://appsto.re/us/qUUTE.i
>
> richard
>
> "By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
>
>
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:34 PM, 'Ming' via VIPhone 
> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> hi! all,
> I'm still looking for some exciting games for my IPhone.
> I think if you look at the apple vis site.
> their are too much text base games or quiz games.
> anyone  know that if there have some exciting audio games coming soon 
> this =

> year.
> I like some kinds of shooting games like audio defence.
> and audio game hub or some adventure game such as  a blind legin
>
> Ming
>
> msn/window live messenger
> chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
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Re: too much text games

[Monica Jones]

Lol I think I beat it once but don’t ask me how.


From: Paul Ferrara 
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: too much text games

That Rubber Ducky game is fun, but can you ever beat it; I got to some 
ridiculous level and killed hundreds of zombees and it never ended.

Paul

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: too much text games

If you have not tried Where's My Rubber Ducky, and you have an iPhone, give it 
a try. It is a Zombie shooting game. Be sure and read the description. It 
requires GPS as you have to actually turn the phone to get the zombie in the 
center of your headphones to shoot them. You have to where stereo earphones.

You can switch to a sword so it isn't quite so loud.
You may also want to go to there web site to read more about it.
here is the app store link:
Where's my rubber ducky by Accessibility Foundation
https://appsto.re/us/qUUTE.i

richard

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:34 PM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
wrote:


  hi! all,
  I'm still looking for some exciting games for my IPhone.
  I think if you look at the apple vis site.
  their are too much text base games or quiz games.
  anyone  know that if there have some exciting audio games coming soon this 
year.
  I like some kinds of shooting games like audio defence.
  and audio game hub or some adventure game such as  a blind legin 

  Ming

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Re: Tune-in question, possible problem

[Monica Jones]

The thing I don't like about TuneIn is that it no longer has any of the 
Nashville stations that are local to me. It has our Murfreesboro station 
where I live but it's talk radio. OoTunes still has them all, even though 
that app hasn't been updated in forever. Perhaps the developer thinks if it 
ain't broke, don't fix it. But, yes, you should be able to search by city. 
Last time I searched TuneIn, not to long ago, I could search by city. I 
don't use it much so don't remember the exact steps.


-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tune-in question, possible problem

Hello everyone,


I have Tune-in on my Ipad Mini. I really enjoy it, and have for some
time now. I have a premium package. I think it is the one that is about
6, or 7 dollars a month.


Anyway, I was hoping to listen to some stations from within the area I
grew up. I didn't think I could search by city, but I knew I could see
stations within the state. I thought I went to local stations, and then
chose country, and all that. But I haven't done this in a while.


So I was wondering, is this still possible to do?

If so, what are the steps to do it?

And can you search for a city and state? Or only by station?


Thank you for any help.


Terri

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RE: NantMobile Money Reader, was RE: So American money identifier?

[Larry Lumpkin]

You just start the app, put the bill down and hold the phone over it for a 
second or two.  You might have to turn the bill over but I don't think so.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Monica Jones
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NantMobile Money Reader, was RE: So American money identifier?

I haven't gotten this app to work for me. When it was the Looktel money reader, 
I clicked a button and it immediately told me what it was. There seems to be no 
such button and if I just hold a bill in front of it, I get nothing.


-Original Message-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: NantMobile Money Reader, was RE: So American money identifier?

In the app description of NantMobile Money Reader, it says the following:

Twenty one currencies are supported: the US Dollar, Australian Dollar, Bahraini 
Dinar, Brazilian Real, Belarusian Ruble, British Pound, Canadian Dollar, Euro, 
Hungarian Forint, Israeli Shekel, Indian Rupee, Japanese Yen, Kuwaiti Dinar, 
Mexican Peso, New Zealand Dollar, Polish Zloty, Russian Ruble, Saudi Arabian 
Riyal, Singapore Dollar, and United Arab Emirates Dirham.

It looks like the Peru currency is not supported, only the Brazilian Real.

If you know anyone in the countries you are visiting, you could ask them if 
they have any apps in their stores.  It is likely that the currency will be 
identifiable by touch, but I don't know.  I know the United States, where I 
live, is not distinguishable by touch, but many, many other countries are.

Good luck,
Richard





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimberly Samco
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: So American money identifier?


First of all, thanks for the suggestions for converting currency!  Much 
appreciated.
Now, does anyone know of any money identifiers that work with So American 
currency, especially Peru but other countries as well.  I've written to the 
developers of KNFB Reader and LookTel and have not yet heard back so while 
I'm waiting I thought I'd ask here.

Thanks again!

Kim

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Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[Monica Jones]

It doesn’t work on my 6Plus and my camera is also working.


From: Larry Lumpkin 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Sorry Evan.   I’ve got the app on a new iphone 7 running ios 10 and it works 
fine.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.

But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.

I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.

Evan

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

 

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Re: NantMobile Money Reader, was RE: So American money identifier?

[Evan Reese]

Rebooting my iPad Mini worked for me. Have you tried that with whichever 
device you're using?

Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Monica Jones

Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NantMobile Money Reader, was RE: So American money identifier?

I haven't gotten this app to work for me. When it was the Looktel money
reader, I clicked a button and it immediately told me what it was. There
seems to be no such button and if I just hold a bill in front of it, I get
nothing.


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: NantMobile Money Reader, was RE: So American money identifier?

In the app description of NantMobile Money Reader, it says the following:

Twenty one currencies are supported: the US Dollar, Australian Dollar,
Bahraini Dinar, Brazilian Real, Belarusian Ruble, British Pound, Canadian
Dollar, Euro, Hungarian Forint, Israeli Shekel, Indian Rupee, Japanese Yen,
Kuwaiti Dinar, Mexican Peso, New Zealand Dollar, Polish Zloty, Russian
Ruble, Saudi Arabian Riyal, Singapore Dollar, and United Arab Emirates
Dirham.

It looks like the Peru currency is not supported, only the Brazilian Real.

If you know anyone in the countries you are visiting, you could ask them if
they have any apps in their stores.  It is likely that the currency will be
identifiable by touch, but I don't know.  I know the United States, where I
live, is not distinguishable by touch, but many, many other countries are.

Good luck,
Richard





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimberly Samco
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: So American money identifier?


First of all, thanks for the suggestions for converting currency!  Much
appreciated.
Now, does anyone know of any money identifiers that work with So American
currency, especially Peru but other countries as well.  I've written to the
developers of KNFB Reader and LookTel and have not yet heard back so while
I'm waiting I thought I'd ask here.

Thanks again!

Kim

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Re: too much text games

[Monica Jones]

There are lots of audio games on AppleVis.


-Original Message- 
From: 'Ming' via VIPhone

Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 1:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: too much text games

yeah!
I like the Blindfold  RS games.


Ming
tel: 6421 9950

chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
skype:
chungchiming9950

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2016年10月30日 週日，Andy Baracco  寫道﹕

主題: Re: too much text games
收件人: viphone@googlegroups.com
日期: 2016年10月30日,星期日,上午5:37

Blindfold Games has
several different kinds of games, ranging from bowling
to horse racing.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Michael Feir

Sent:
Saturday, October 29, 2016 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: too much text games

There are many audio games.
Ticon Blu has done Audeo Rally Racing and
another racing game. They also have adventure
games called The Inquisator
and a hidden
object game called She Noire. Codename Cygnus, probably
spellt
wrong, is another audio adventure
game where you are a secret agent. Of
course, there are the Something Else LTD games
like Papa Sangre II and Audio
Defence.
There are lots of audio games out there and I expect many
more will
appear over the next couple of
years.

Michael Feir

Twitter: mfeir
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Creator and former editor of
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On Oct 29, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Richard

Turner 


wrote:

FYI, you don't know when you are at

the end level because you just keep



having to shoot more zombies and no next level comes up.
So, when you hit

a level that lasts

much longer than the previous ones, you are probably at

the end.  Note the last line below from

the description:

Description

Zombies from out of

space invaded earth. Took all the women, good food and

Jack's rubber ducky. Jack sets out on

a zombie killing rampage to get back



his rubber ducky so he can take a bath. Armed with a
shotgun, machete and

surrounded by

zombies, Jack is certain to introduce those

rubber-ducky-stealing alien zombies to a

world of pain!




There's only one problem: Jack is blind. Use your
hearing to locate the

zombies before

they attack. Pull the trigger or machete the hell out of
'm

to retake Jack’s rubber

ducky.


* 3D AUDIO

ENGINE GIVES NEW MEANING TO FPS!


There are no visuals on the screen that

are relevant to survival. Learn

where

the buttons are, close your eyes and trust your ears. The 3d
Audio

Augmented Reality Engine uses

intelligent algorithms to reproduce how our

ears hear perceive the world around us.

This game literally demands a

killer

hearing…


Jack is

a bad tempored alcoholic who doesn't care for anything
but his

rubber ducky. All Jack does is

sit at home, jobless, looking at action

movies or p*&#. If someone he

doesn't know walks on his land, the shotgun

and machete do the talking…

If you ever reach the

endlevel, let us know on facebook or twitter. You

might even win something like a rubber

ducky.



Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf

Of Rajmund
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 6:48

AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: too much text games

Hi,
I tried it as well. Despite the warning

messages of compatibility, it

works on

the 5S, with 10.1. As a matter of interest, I got as far as
level

6.





Sent from a Braille Sense


- Original Message -
From:

'a^ffe™*a^ffe*îChuoq^00ab" é•fs3fl4fe'
via VIPhone


To: Richard Turner  
Date: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:44

pm

Subject: Re: too much text games




I have this

game. And the six cents  as well.



I think the game you have introduced me they have never
and.

And start updated since

2012.




Ming

Skype: chungchiming9950



On 29 Oct 2016, at 7:11 PM,

Richard Turner 


wrote:

If

you have not tried Where's My Rubber Ducky, and you have
an iPhone,

give=
it a try. It is a Zombie shooting

game. Be sure and read the



description. =

It requires GPS

as you have to actually turn the phone to get the zombie

in=


the center of your headphones to shoot them. You have to
where stereo

earp=
hones.

You

can switch to a sword so it isn't quite so loud.

You may also want to go to there

web site to read more about it.



here is the app store lin

Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[Monica Jones]

after I wrote my message about not getting it to work, I saw the suggestion to 
see if I gave access to the camera. I’m sure I did but it never hurts to 
retrace my steps.


From: Evan Reese 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Yes indeed. Thank you and Richard for the suggestion, and Money Reader is now 
working great.
Evan

From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 12:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Hi,
Have you rebooted since install? I ask because sometimes Money Reader goes into 
a coma here and though it’s running won’t identify money but if I reboot it’ll 
spring back to life.
Good luck.
Robin


From: Evan Reese 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.
But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.
I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.
Evan

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

 

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Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?

[Mary Otten]

You have a lot more apps on yours than I do on mine. I don't have any sleep 
apps or music apps. I have sleep app on my iPhone and my iPad, but since the 
Apple TV is in a place where I don't sleep, I don't have any of those. We don't 
have any games. My husband wasn't interested. That's why I didn't get a 64 GB. 
So most of the apps I have are the usual things Netflix, PBS, TV watching and 
news apps. I am sure we will end up getting another Apple TV before we fill 
this one out.
Mary
 

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> On Oct 31, 2016, at 3:26 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> I have a 64 gig model, probably didn’t need that big of one, but I got it 
> because I wanted it. It would take you a long time to use 32 gigs, but they 
> do add up over time, I have different things on mine, like Hulu, NetFlix, 
> Pulse TV, Popcorn Flicks, Public Domain Movies, Free Classic Movies, Classic 
> Films, Snag Films, Drive In Classics and other apps that allow me to watch 
> old classic movies. I have radio station apps and video apps like YouTube. I 
> have weather apps, I have news apps, I have sound apps for sleep and 
> meditation, I have more on mine than I can actually remember right off the 
> top of my head. I have iPods with many of the same apps but sometimes they 
> just sound better coming from the speaker on my big screen TV.
>  
> From: Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?
>  
> Hello Mary, and mama peach, I appreciate both of your thoughts on the 
> subject. I appreciate what you had to say, and that you supported what you 
> had to say. It really made me think, and it's making this process just a bit 
> more easier for me. So that makes me happy. This isn't an easy thing for me, 
> because I don't like change, or upgrades, or updates. Although, I am starting 
> to like more updates, as that usually makes things better. Even if you have 
> to wait for another update, to get some bugs fixed sometimes.
> 
> But what I don't really understand is, why they are offering these newer 
> Apple TVs with all this space. I mean, if you want everything to stream from 
> your TV, set of books, and games, and the like, then that makes sense. But I 
> don't, as I have said before. So I guess this must put me in the minority.
> 
> If I get a 32 gig model, I don't know what to put on it. I don't know how to 
> make it useful. I'm really confused here. Maybe I am overthinking it, but 
> that is just how I am, and who I am. That's not an easy thing to change about 
> one's self.
> 
> Thank you for understanding, and reading this message. And again, thank you 
> so very much for the advice.
> 
> Terri
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:53 PM -0500, "MamaPeach"  
> wrote:
> 
> That is what I would go with since you don’t want music, games, or books, the 
> 32 gig would be the way to go for $149.
>  
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is this a good price for an Apple TV?
>  
> Well, I wouldn't do it. That's not that much cheaper than the new one. And if 
> money is a problem, you could get the 32 GB one new for cheaper, and probably 
> cheaper than that refurbished. You probably will not need the 64 GB model. 
> Just don't download screen savers that you can't look at. Apps are not large. 
> We have the 32 GB model, and we are nowhere near running out of space. Just 
> my opinion.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everybody,
>> 
>> I found a deal on Best Buy for a 64 gig Apple TV. I was wondering if this 
>> was really a good deal, or not. The unit is refurbished, but this does not 
>> bother me.
>> 
>> They are asking $470.
>> 
>> What do you all think? I'm sorry, that was supposed to be, they are asking 
>> for $170.
>> What do you all think? Is this deal worth it?
>> I unfortunately got installed the Best Buy app, because I find it to be a 
>> bit of a pain to use.
>> However, it had all of my information. Now that I have reinstalled it, of 
>> course all of that is gone. So now I have to do that part all over again, 
>> which is rather irritating!
>>  
>> I would like to purchase this, but only if it is really a good deal. If not. 
>> I would use to wait. I think that would be better.
>> 
>> Can you help with this would be very much appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Terri
>>  
>> Get Outlook for iOS
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Trivia Game For Apple TV

[MamaPeach]

I have found a great trivia game for the Apple TV. It is called Super Trivia 
Challenge. It is sort of set up like Jeopardy with five categories with values 
of 100, 200, 300, 400 and 500 points per question. At first you don’t know what 
the categories are but if you do a two finger swipe up once the categories are 
loaded, VoiceOver will read what the categories are. When you click on an 
amount, a question is read aloud by VoiceOver, simply move up or down to read 
the four choices and then click on the one you think is correct. The questions 
are very challenging, but I am able to play this game with no sighted 
assistance whatsoever.

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Maps app in iOS 10.1

[Todd Patkus]

All:

 

I noticed the Maps app shows only street names rather than city names.

 

For example, it would say like this:

 

I-49 Stonewall

 

But not:

 

i-49 Alexandria

 

Or not even the full address!

 

Has any of you had this experience?

 

Thank y'all.

 

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Fw: November 17, 2016 Commission Open Meeting to Consider Disability-Related Order

[Paul Richard McGann]

here is post for you to follow. 

From: AccessInfo 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:50 PM
To: rkmcg...@comcast.net 
Subject: November 17, 2016 Commission Open Meeting to Consider 
Disability-Related Order


 

On November 17, 2016, the Federal Communications Commission will consider the 
following disability-related order at its Commission agenda meeting:

 

Video Description: Implementation of the Twenty-First Century Communications 
and Video Accessibility Act of 2010: The Commission will consider a Report and 
Order that addresses the amount of video described programming required to be 
made available to consumers.

 

Meeting Agenda:

Word:   https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-341948A1.docx 

PDF:https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-341948A1.pdf 

 

Webcast: The meeting will be streamed live on the Internet with open captioning.

 

The meeting will start at 10:30 a.m. EST, in the Commission Meeting Room 
(TW-C305), 445 12th Street S.W., Washington, DC. It is open to the public and 
will be live streamed.

 

Reasonable Accommodations:  Open captioning and on-site sign language 
interpreting services will be provided for this event. Other reasonable 
accommodations for people with disabilities are available upon request, such as 
tactile interpreting services. Requests for such accommodations should be 
submitted via e‐mail to fcc...@fcc.gov or by calling the Consumer & 
Governmental Affairs Bureau at (202) 418–0530 (voice), (202) 418–0432 (TTY). 
Such requests should include a detailed description of the accommodation 
needed. In addition, please include a way the FCC can contact you if it needs 
more information. Please allow as much advance notice as possible; last‐minute 
requests will be accepted, but may be impossible to fill.

 

 

 

 

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Accessing links on Facebook that are posted by more than one person

[Mary Otten]

When you get links in your timeline which have been posted by one person, it is 
easy to access. Just double tap and the page where you can like or share or 
comment on the link. If a link is posted by several people, it is usually 
possible also to access the page. But if it's hosted by two people, there 
doesn't seem to be a way to do anything but save the link. But you can't get at 
it to share and comment on it i've tried double tap, tap and hold, and action 
rotor. Zip. What am I missing?
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RE: Accessing links on Facebook that are posted by more than one person

[Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)]

I have this same problem. If there is no one sighted near me who can activate 
it for me I have no choice but to save it 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessing links on Facebook that are posted by more than one person

When you get links in your timeline which have been posted by one person, it is 
easy to access. Just double tap and the page where you can like or share or 
comment on the link. If a link is posted by several people, it is usually 
possible also to access the page. But if it's hosted by two people, there 
doesn't seem to be a way to do anything but save the link. But you can't get at 
it to share and comment on it i've tried double tap, tap and hold, and action 
rotor. Zip. What am I missing?
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Re: apple tv confusion

[Christopher Chaltain]

DirectTV is a subsidiary of AT&T, so yore both right.

On 31/10/16 12:44, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Kliph,

I just read a couple of days ago AT&T was buying Time Warner.

-Original Message-
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Kliphton Miller
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 2:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple tv confusion

As it stands now you need a subscription to access the major networks.  But by 
the beginning of next year we will have multiple streaming options.
Google is coming out with what they call "google unplugged". They claim to 
already signed a deal with CBS, Hulu can't even say that.  they claim to have all the 
disney and ESPN channels, along with fox and NBC networks.
Hulu claims to have a streaming service coming, and says there's will be priced 
with all compitition.
SlingTV already has a streaming app, but it's not very accessible, and 
depending on your area, the feed is a bit choppy at best.
Now, directv says there's will be ready by the end of the year, and claim they 
will offer over 100 channels, even wants there current customers to eventually 
migrate to the directv now app, so they can cut out technicians and equipment.  
They also are trying to buy time warner, so we will see how this all plays out. 
 I hope directv does launch there app soon,cause rumor has it, they will offer 
the sunday ticket for the Nfl as a stand alone package too.  Guess we will see.

Kliph
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On Oct 29, 2016, at 8:26 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:

You will need to keep a cable subscription to access most of what is available 
on Apple TV. There is free content but if you want to access shows on those 
apps that you mentioned, you will need to sign in with your cable provider's 
cradentials in order to do so.

-Original Message- From: david gross
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 8:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple tv confusion

I am still stuck in a cable contract but hope to cut the cord when it is up.

I am still confused about apple tv and what it can do.

Can I cut the cord as far as tv and phone and keep my internet to use apple tv? 
Or do I still need a cable subscription to use it?

My wife has favorite shows on he 4 major networks as well as tlc, Lifetime, and 
Hallmark movie channel. I am interested in the mlb network.

With apple tv, are all these choices available?

With apple tv do you need apps from each network, or does hulu or netflicks 
allow access to most everything?

What is the delay time in obtaining a show? If survivor is on cbs this 
wednesday, when can a apple tv userr get it?

Can apple tv be used with apps already on our other apple devices?

Any feedback is appreciated.

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Re: Accessing links on Facebook that are posted by more than one person

[Mário Gabriel]

it is a bug.

one of the oldest and most ridiculous that accessibility team never 
solve ...



cheers.


Às 02:44 de 01/11/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:

When you get links in your timeline which have been posted by one person, it is 
easy to access. Just double tap and the page where you can like or share or 
comment on the link. If a link is posted by several people, it is usually 
possible also to access the page. But if it's hosted by two people, there 
doesn't seem to be a way to do anything but save the link. But you can't get at 
it to share and comment on it i've tried double tap, tap and hold, and action 
rotor. Zip. What am I missing?
Mary


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RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[Terrie Terlau]

Monica,

I had the same problem as you. I had to turn the flash on in the camera and 
after that it worked fine. HTH.

Terrie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Monica Jones
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

after I wrote my message about not getting it to work, I saw the suggestion to 
see if I gave access to the camera. I’m sure I did but it never hurts to 
retrace my steps.

 

 

From: Evan Reese   

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:47 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Yes indeed. Thank you and Richard for the suggestion, and Money Reader is now 
working great.

Evan

 

From: Robin Frost   

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 12:46 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Hi,

Have you rebooted since install? I ask because sometimes Money Reader goes into 
a coma here and though it’s running won’t identify money but if I reboot it’ll 
spring back to life.

Good luck.

Robin

 

 

From: Evan Reese 

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:34 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.

But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.

I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.

Evan

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

 

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Re: Backing Up Multiple iThings in iTunes with Different Apple IDs?

[Carla Savage]

Hi Danny, 
Yes, there is a way. I have created mutiple iTunes libraries on my laptop. That 
way, you can back them up. To create a new library, hold down the shift key 
before pressing enter on the iTunes icon on your desktop. You get presented 
with a dialogue and one of the options is to create a new library. Press space 
or enter on that and title it with whatever you wish. Then you're good to go. 
If you want to switch back to another library, just exit out of iTunes and 
press and hold the shift key and press enter on the iTunes icon again and 
choose your library you want to switch back too. 
Hope this helps,
Carla.


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> On 30 Oct 2016, at 2:44 pm, Dani Pagador  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Everyone.
> I barely touch iTunes. I have it on my work computer and use it to
> back up my iPodTouch and install anything new Apple may say I need.
> 
> I want to keep a backup of my Mom's iPhone on my new MacBook.
> 
> But I also need to temporarily keep a backup of my own iPodTouch there as 
> well.
> 
> Can I do this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dani, hoping this makes sense
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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all
Just to let you all know that I have now succeeded with my download of ios 
10.1.  I have tried so many times, and last night when I tried again, it 
actually downloaded the update and I could install it after that.  Why it would 
not work for so many times, I just do not know.  Thank you for all the 
suggestions.  It is good to know that there are so many knowledgeable people 
out there and also people willing to share their knowledge and help.

Regards

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jan Kleinhans 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


  Hi 

  Thanks Fanus, will have a look at that lot as well, mine is normally also 
turned off though, but will give it a try.

  Jan

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From: Fanus 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


Hello Jan
I do not know if it will help but a few updates ago my 5S did the same 
trick. For some reason I decided to go into the privacy setting and I turned 
automatic updates off. It used to be off so why it came on again I do not know 
But after turning it off I could do the update. Why this caused the problem is 
not clear. 
Regards
Fanus


From: Jan Kleinhans 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

Hi

It's a 64 gb phone, 50,5 gb left on the phone.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1


  I have not been following this thread. How much room do you have on the 
phone?
  Richard



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  (Sent from my iPod 6)

  On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:43 PM, Jan Kleinhans  
wrote:


Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data 
is off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for 
updating.  I will try some more during the day, before resetting the whole 
thing as a new phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all the 
same for helping.

Jan

- Original Message - From: "Shai" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



  Hello Jan,

  It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get

  the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is

  connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after

  resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the

  Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data

  and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure

  that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in

  settings/cellular.

  If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the

  phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.





  On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:

Hi all



Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant 
here, I

tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems 
to be a

problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the 
update, then

after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading 
update" and I

then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same 
thing

happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, 
rebooting with

the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network 
settings,

no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the 
time.  It is

a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the 
problem.  I have

used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and 
there were no

problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got 
this

phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,

redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.

So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something

else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I 
attempt this,

so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.



Jan Kleinhans



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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks, I did not even know there was a smaller update out again.  Hopefully 
it will work without problems this time then.


Jan

- Original Message - 
From: "Shai" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



Hello Jan,
Now that iOS 10.1.1 has been released, you may want to try again.
Perhaps you will be able to download the update this time.
Good luck.


On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:

Hi

Thanks for all the suggestions.  Indeed wi-fi is working, cellular data 
is

off, and the phone can pretty much be used for anything else but for
updating.  I will try some more during the day, before resetting the 
whole

thing as a new phone, was hoping that would not be necessary.  Thanks all
the same for helping.

Jan

- Original Message -
From: "Shai" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1



Hello Jan,
It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get
the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is
connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after
resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the
Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data
and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure
that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in
settings/cellular.
If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the
phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.


On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:

Hi all

Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I
tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to 
be


a
problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update,
then
after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" 
and


I
then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same
thing
happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting
with
the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network
settings,
no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time. 
It


is
a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I
have
used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there 
were


no
problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this
phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean
install,
redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old
backup.
So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be
something
else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt
this,
so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jan Kleinhans

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