RE: Identifi question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Screen curtain makes no difference for taking photos, only makes a difference 
for screenshots. I just confirmed this again with this app both by taking a 
picture and by importing one, it recognized both just fine.

I am actually more and more impressed with this app. I took a picture of my 
guide dog on his dog bed and it said "Yellow lab lying on green dog bed" which 
was perfectly accurate.
I then took a picture from about 8 feet away across my bed to the dresser in 
the corner which has a few stuffed plush animals on top. It said "Brown 5-tear 
wooden dresser with plush animals on top" I am not making this up, the dresser 
does have 5 drawers.
When I did a bit of a close-up of the animals it gave me the following. Before 
I write the result I explain about the animals. Ikea has some awesome and very 
inexpensive stuffed animals and when my wife recently spent a few weeks at the 
hospital I bought her a few. Among others they had a yellow lab both a large 
one which is almost 30 inches long and a small one which is about 16 inches 
long, then they had a siberian husky also about the size of the large yellow 
lab and an awesome moose which is in between the small and large dogs, maybe 20 
inches. My wife had the yellow lab on the bottom, the siberian husky sitting on 
top, the moose was a bit off and down against the wall and the little dog was 
behind so not visible very well. Here is what iDentify gave me:

Yellow lab and siberian husky plush animals on top of wooden cabinet". Mind you 
at that point only the top and side of the dresser were in the picture.
When I imported a photo I had of my wife with the husky it told me it was a 
"woman in a grey long sleeve T-Shirt with siberian husky plush toy", this 
picture was taken weeks ago and also perfectly accurate. Now if the app had 
told me it was a "beautiful filipina woman" it would have been too freaky even 
though it would of course also be accurate *smile*.

Take care,
Sieghard

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Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:28 PM
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Subject: Re: Identifi question

Hi Robbert, 

I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture. 

Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain. 

Cheers Brett. 


> On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts  
> wrote:
> 
>Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I 
> will ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
> erroneous assumptions.
> 
> After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
> unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  Please 
> tell me the purpose of this choice.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Don Roberts
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RE: Accessing the keypad after Siri makes a call

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mary,

I just asked SIRI (with my phone locked) to "Call Mastercard". I have them as a 
contact entry with the toll free number for customer service. SIRI said 
"Calling Mastercard" and after the call connected I had the keypad right there 
where I could enter my card number etc.
I guess it is possible that the keyboard is hidden and you just see the name or 
number of you are calling, the call duration and then you should also have the 
following buttons on the screen:

Mute
Keypad
Speaker
Add Call
Facetime Video
Contacts
End Call

As you probably guessed, tapping on "Keypad" will bring up the keypad.

If that doesn't work at all or you are not seeing this you may have to unlock 
your phone and if a call is in progress you will have a "Touch to return to 
call" message at the top, I think it's on the left side of the screen 
underneath the Signal strength.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Accessing the keypad after Siri makes a call

If you tell Siri to place a call, and he actually does it, then you need to 
access the keypad to deal with one of those menu systems, how do you do that? I 
have found that you can't just call up the phone app if you need to access the 
keypad, and when Siri makes a call, he doesn't automatically call that up. Is 
there a solution?
Mary


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RE: change names of apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Rich,

The only way I know of is to use the custom label feature of iOS which is a 
2-finger double tap and hold. Unfortunately I have no idea how you do this on a 
braille display/keyboard. You can rename apps with this, but in the app 
switcher, for example, the apps may appear the old/original way and in some 
situations I guess it is possible that the label doesn’t stick and you may have 
to redo it.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: change names of apps

everyone,

I tried to change app names.

since there are two apps with same name messengers. one is facebook and other 
is yahoo messengers.

I tried to change name for messengers by yahoo into different name like yahoo 
messengers, and it was fine, but later yahoo name was removed after ios 
upgrading. I give up.

any suggestion or any advice. thank you1

sincerely,
rich

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RE: iDentifi and text

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I tried iDentifi on a letter from British Columbia Medical Services. I had 
earlier read the same letter with KNFB Reader with almost perfect accuracy. 
iDentifi was also very good, maybe not quite as good as KNFB Reader and it took 
longer for the text to be recognized, but for a free app this is very nice. The 
drawback of course is that there is no easy way to save the recognized text, 
using the 3-finger quadruple tap to copy what Voiceover spoke to the clipboard 
is OK for short passages, but this features has its limitations. I guess we'll 
see if he will add a way to save the text down the road. As somebody who also 
has KNFB Reader I doubt I will use iDentifi for doing OCR, but for people who 
don't have KNFB Reader and don't want to spend the money it is great.

Regards,
Sieghard
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Subject: iDentifi and text

If you want to save the description or text results with iDentifi, after it 
reads the description/text, do the three finger quadruple tap and you can then 
paste that in a word processing app or an eMail. I just used iDentifi on the 
back of a book in a dark room, and got amazingly good results. The same 
situation with KNFB reader got maybe 5% of the words.
Flash is set to automatic.
By the way, after hitting the first take picture button, you can use the volume 
control to take the picture, and for me, the use photo button gains focus 
automatically.

Here is what I got from the back of the book.
>From the theatre reviews of
ZALMEN, OR THE MADNESS OF GOD by Elie Wiesel Not only a bold dramatie statement 
about the repression of the Jews in the Soviet Union, but a cry of anguish 
about the collective guilt of the silent and the futility of gestures. The 
Madness of God has both an urgency and a timeless Mr.
Wiesel has said this is his last, as well as his first, play. hope he 
reconsiders that decision."
Mel Gussow, The New York Times
"Elie Wiesel infuses his theme with a frequently soaring mysticism in ideas and 
words. The beautiful p Washington "A tantalizing play, a difficult play, and 
ultimately a haunt ing play. Although it is set in Russia and deals with the 
per- sistent of the Jewish minority, its deepest concern transcends and 
politics.
David Richards. The washington Star-News stimulating and even The Madness of 
God has a heroic quality that makes the best of it very stirring.
The terrible tensions of the battle to stay alive, the tempta- tions on the one 
hand to arrant cowardice and on the other to mad' heroism, come through with 
frightening vividness.
Elliot Norton, The Boston "sheer fascination. The Madness of cod is priceless 
for its ability to induce us to grapple with crucial questions in our 
understanding of those around us.
Mike Heid, CBS Radio
  

Richard Turner

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Re: Identifi

[Ann Byrne]

How far from the object does the phone have to be in order to read text??
At 01:35 PM 12/1/2016, you wrote:
qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with 
the latest I O S.  I haven’t had a bad pic 
result yet and I have been playing with the 
Identifi since around 4:30 this morning.  Also, 
I took some pics in very low lighting.  I 
selected for the high quality results.  What I 
am happy about is that taking a picture of text 
was quick and with excellent results.  I hope 
that those of you that are not getting good 
results, do so eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe
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Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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RE: How do I turn this into digest mode?

[Mary Heinrichs]

Hey, Mark. Okay but I'm using Hotmail. Do I still need a gmail account 
for this? I have the gmail account but I'm using Hotmail. Thanks. 
Maria 

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Hi. This is Maria. I recently subscribed to the V Iphone mailing list. How do I 
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Re: FYI and a question.

[Cheryl LeFurgey]

> 
> I've tried, haven't had any luck so far, so figured I'd ask on the list 
> because I know there are others on here with the same keyboard as mine.

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Re: FYI and a question.

[Richard Turner]

On the AmazonBasics keyboard, it was another of the function keys.
Try going into keyboard help with VO-K, and tap the function keys. I can't 
remember which ones it was.
Richard


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On Dec 1, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Cheryl LeFurgey 
> wrote:

Hi, everyone.
Recently someone was asking about how to hide and show the onscreen keyboard of 
an iphone while using a bluetooth keyboard.
The responses I saw all had to do with the apple bluetooth keyboard which I 
don't have, so I was wondering how to do it with my logitech k810.
For anyone else with this keyboard, the answer is to press F12, and VO will say 
keyboard visible/keyboard hidden. Just thought I'd pass that along for anyone 
else who was wondering.
Now, for my question.
Using the k810,  is there a way to skip between tracks while music is playing? 
I've figured out how to play/pause music and increase/decrease the volume, but 
moving from track to track is still a mystery.
Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give.

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Re: Identifi question

[Richard Turner]

If you do the three finger quadruple tap right after it speaks the description, 
VoiceOver will read it and copy it to the clipboard so you could paste it into 
a document, email, etc.
He has not built in a repeat function within the app yet.
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On Dec 1, 2016, at 6:16 PM, 
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Hi, list.
How can I have iDentifi repeat the spoken result, please?
Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2016, at 6:27 AM, Brett 
> wrote:

Hi Robbert,

I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture.

Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain.

Cheers Brett.


On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts 
> wrote:

 Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I will 
ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
erroneous assumptions.

After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  Please 
tell me the purpose of this choice.

Thanks.

Don Roberts

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Re: Identifi question

[fzlmahmood30]

Hi, list.
How can I have iDentifi repeat the spoken result, please?
Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2016, at 6:27 AM, Brett  wrote:
> 
> Hi Robbert, 
> 
> I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
> foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture. 
> 
> Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
> launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain. 
> 
> Cheers Brett. 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>   Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I 
>> will ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
>> erroneous assumptions.
>> 
>> After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
>> unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  
>> Please tell me the purpose of this choice.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Don Roberts
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FYI and a question.

[Cheryl LeFurgey]

Hi, everyone.
Recently someone was asking about how to hide and show the onscreen keyboard of 
an iphone while using a bluetooth keyboard.
The responses I saw all had to do with the apple bluetooth keyboard which I 
don't have, so I was wondering how to do it with my logitech k810.
For anyone else with this keyboard, the answer is to press F12, and VO will say 
keyboard visible/keyboard hidden. Just thought I'd pass that along for anyone 
else who was wondering.
Now, for my question.
Using the k810,  is there a way to skip between tracks while music is playing? 
I've figured out how to play/pause music and increase/decrease the volume, but 
moving from track to track is still a mystery.
Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give.

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RE: Identifi question

[Richard Turner]

Having the screen curtain on has no impact on the results.
The screen curtain doesn't effect the back facing camera.

I have done most of my pictures, including the ones set to text, with the 
screen curtain on.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:28 PM
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Subject: Re: Identifi question

Hi Robbert, 

I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture. 

Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain. 

Cheers Brett. 


> On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts  
> wrote:
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> will ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
> erroneous assumptions.
> 
> After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
> unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  Please 
> tell me the purpose of this choice.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Don Roberts
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change names of apps

[Paul Richard McGann]

everyone, 

I tried to change app names. 

since there are two apps with same name messengers. one is facebook and other 
is yahoo messengers. 

I tried to change name for messengers by yahoo into different name like yahoo 
messengers, and it was fine, but later yahoo name was removed after ios 
upgrading. I give up. 

any suggestion or any advice. thank you1

sincerely, 
rich 

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Accessing the keypad after Siri makes a call

[Mary Otten]

If you tell Siri to place a call, and he actually does it, then you need to 
access the keypad to deal with one of those menu systems, how do you do that? I 
have found that you can't just call up the phone app if you need to access the 
keypad, and when Siri makes a call, he doesn't automatically call that up. Is 
there a solution?
Mary


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Re: Identifi question

[Brett]

Hi Robbert, 

I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture. 

Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain. 

Cheers Brett. 


> On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts  
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> 
> After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
> unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  Please 
> tell me the purpose of this choice.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Don Roberts
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A couple of questions regarding the now TV app

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everybody,

I mentioned in an earlier message to the list that I added the app onto my 
iPad. I said that I thought it locked my iPad up, or possibly turned the volume 
down. Or maybe I just said it locked it up? I can't remember for sure now.

Anyway, somebody on the list was very kind, and told me that most likely the 
volume have been turned way down, and someone else tried to help me figure out 
how to get the volume back up. Well I could never figure out how to swipe up 
the screen, and get the volume to turn up. So I asked my friend Randy, who is 
cited, if he would help me.

It turns out, all he had to do was hold the volume up button, and the volume 
came up. The weird thing about it was, that I had no voiceover, but when I 
tried dictation, that would make noise. So that was strange to me. So now I 
have the volume up, and I muted it in the app, like the kind person suggested. 
So now all is well when I open the app.
However, there are still some issues, but it seems a little easier and ways to 
use the app on my iPad. When the shows came on, it was obviously on the channel 
A, because the first 48 was on. This was the channel it started with, when I 
set it up on my Apple TV yesterday. I also got it to somehow play back to the 
future, which was awesome! But I couldn't tell what channel that was on. Now 
here is my big question. I'm hoping somebody can help me. But I'm not sure if 
anyone can.

My friend Randy was looking at the screen, trying to help me figure some things 
out. He could see where you could add shows to your watch list, and he could 
see button that said shows, movies, and networks.

However, there was no picture for him. He thought he was seeing advertisements, 
but I told him what he was saying was other listings for shows.
I want him to be able to watch stuff with me. But how can I fix it so it still 
work for me, but he can view the shows? Does anyone know how

Thank you in advance for anyone who can possibly help me.

Terri

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Re: Youtube channel updates and such

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

When the video loads and you choose to like it, go to the name of the video and 
swipe up or down. Like is in that setting. It's just like you would do on 
Facebook to a status.

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> 
> Hi on this same line of questioning, ever since a few updates ago with the 
> youtube app, I can't like videos any more.
> 
> Any tips? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Lelia
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Youtube channel updates and such
> 
> there should be a setting within each channel to which you are subscribed to 
> disable notifications from that channel. You may need to look within each 
> channel to find it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 06:17
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Youtube channel updates and such
> 
> Hello once more, everyone.
> 
> 
> I have Youtube on my Ipad Mini. I am subscribed to a few channels. One of 
> them happens to be the Voice.
> 
> 
> I enjoy being subscribed to this channel.
> 
> However, I get several notices, in the week, sometimes a few in one day.
> Notices of videos that have been uploaded.
> 
> 
> Is there a way to stop this from happening?
> 
> If so, how would I do this?
> 
> 
> I'm sure that I set this up when adding the channel. I just don't think I 
> realized how many notices I would receive. I want to look at the channel when 
> I want to do so.
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> 
> 
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Re: identifi and tap tap see

[Evan Reese]

TapTapSee uses a mixture of real people and artificial intelligence to 
describe its images. The podcast that came out shortly after it was released 
with its creator said, (if I recall correctly), a ratio of 80 percent 
artificial intelligence and 20 percent real people. Or, it might have been 
the other way around.

Evan

-Original Message- 
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Subject: identifi and tap tap see

Hi all,

I thought Tap Tap See used real people to identify pics whereas Identifi 
uses artificial intelligence. Is this the case, or do they both use AI?


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Re: Identifi

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Sorry for that,, I didn't think it was voice over, purely because it uses a 
different voice to what our voice over voice is. That mislead me.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:52 pm
Subject: Re: Identifi

>
>
> The results are read by VoiceOver since the three finger quadruple tap works 
> for copying the text, but it doesn'stay the screen, so I doubt the braille 
> display will show it, though I have not tried that yet.
> I wrote the developer suggesting he make it so braille displays can read the 
> results.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> I would say no, it won't be accessible. My reason is: the results of the 
> picture is not read by voice over, and are not shown up on the phone's 
> screen. Since the answer is not shown on phone, it can't then display it in 
> braille.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul Richard McGann  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:42 pm
> Subject: Re: Identifi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> to all, 
> 
> 
> 
> I haven't followed full at all of this post.. I did check app store and it 
> lacks some notes. 
> 
> 
> 
> can you please give me instructions how to use this? you mean having camera 
> takign photo of something like round can of soup and it will give description 
> what kind of can ti is? and wil lit be accessible to braille usage??? 
> 
> 
> 
> I thank you, 
> 
> 
> 
> siuncerely, 
> 
> rich 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:03 PM
> 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: RE: Identifi
> 
> 
> 
> I think this could be one suggestion for Anmol, the developer. Since the app 
> is designed for the blind I don't really see the point in having the "Retake" 
> and "Use Picture" buttons there. It's not like we can look at the picture 
> after we take it and decide if we want to use it or take another better one.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Bell
> 
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:55 PM
> 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> Subject: Re: Identifi
> 
> 
> 
> After taking the photo, did you double tap on the Use Photo button at bottom 
> right of screen? Harry
> 
> 
> 
> On 1 Dec 2016, at 20:39, Rich De Steno  wrote:
> 
> I just installed this identifi app on my iPhone 6 with the latest IOS and I 
> received no speech description at all.  I checked all settings and took about 
> ten pictures of different things.  None of these resulted in any spoken 
> descriptions or words of any kind.
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/1/2016 3:26 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:
> 
> So here's the deal, I think I expected a bit more out of the app  then it 
> gave me. So when I lowered my expectations it's a really good app. You are 
> all correct when you say that it does give a bit more detail  then taptapsee. 
>  I took a picture of a piece of cheese and it told me what kind it was.   
> 
> 
> 
> Lelia  
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I haven't 
> had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the Identifi since 
> around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very low lighting.  I 
> selected for the high quality results.  What I am happy about is that taking 
> a picture of text was quick and with excellent results.  I hope that those of 
> you that are not getting good results, do so eventually.  You'll love it.  
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Rajmund]

Hello,
If you take the picture with the app, you can't. You have to use the camera  
for that.



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- Original Message -
From: Julie Dawson  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:19 pm
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

>
>
> So what if you want to keep a picture you took in reverse then? Thank you.
> Julie
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> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rajmund" 
> To: 
> Sent: December 01, 2016 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> > It doesn't keep them by default, so no need to delete.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Julie Dawson  
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:19 am
> > Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
> >> Julie
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> >>   Love generously,
> >>   Care  deeply,
> >>   Speak  kindly
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> >> can build a site to be proud of.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: Richard Turner
> >> To: ViPone list
> >> Sent: November 30, 2016 6:02 PM
> >> Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
> >>
> >>
> >> I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
> >> While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details 
> >> that TapTapSee did not.
> >> It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the 
> >> subtle differences are nice to know.
> >> One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
> >> shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
> >> TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
> >> iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear 
> >> basket with a black and white box by it.
> >> The box was a small bar of soap.
> >> Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
> >> I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.
> >>
> >> I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school 
> >> student on his own.
> >> So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try 
> >> TapTapSee, then CamFind.
> >> But, to each to his/her own.
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>
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Re: Identifi question

[Rajmund]

Hello,
I presume, it locks the focus on the currently pointed object, avoiding 
accidental moves. At least, when taking random images,  that's what it appears 
to do. 



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- Original Message -
From: Donald L. Roberts  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:18 pm
Subject: Identifi question

>
>
>  Although the answer to this question may be obvious to 
> some, I will ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences 
> for making erroneous assumptions.
> 
> After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus 
> locked unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double 
> tapped.  Please tell me the purpose of this choice.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Don Roberts
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RE: iDentifi and text

[Richard Turner]

I used the up volume button.

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iDentifi and text

Hi,
Which volume button did you use. The up or down button?
Mr. Ed 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:43 PM
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Subject: iDentifi and text

If you want to save the description or text results with iDentifi, after it 
reads the description/text, do the three finger quadruple tap and you can then 
paste that in a word processing app or an eMail. I just used iDentifi on the 
back of a book in a dark room, and got amazingly good results. The same 
situation with KNFB reader got maybe 5% of the words.
Flash is set to automatic.
By the way, after hitting the first take picture button, you can use the volume 
control to take the picture, and for me, the use photo button gains focus 
automatically.

Here is what I got from the back of the book.
>From the theatre reviews of
ZALMEN, OR THE MADNESS OF GOD by Elie Wiesel Not only a bold dramatie statement 
about the repression of the Jews in the Soviet Union, but a cry of anguish 
about the collective guilt of the silent and the futility of gestures. The 
Madness of God has both an urgency and a timeless Mr.
Wiesel has said this is his last, as well as his first, play. hope he 
reconsiders that decision."
Mel Gussow, The New York Times
"Elie Wiesel infuses his theme with a frequently soaring mysticism in ideas and 
words. The beautiful p Washington "A tantalizing play, a difficult play, and 
ultimately a haunt ing play. Although it is set in Russia and deals with the 
per- sistent of the Jewish minority, its deepest concern transcends and 
politics.
David Richards. The washington Star-News stimulating and even The Madness of 
God has a heroic quality that makes the best of it very stirring.
The terrible tensions of the battle to stay alive, the tempta- tions on the one 
hand to arrant cowardice and on the other to mad' heroism, come through with 
frightening vividness.
Elliot Norton, The Boston "sheer fascination. The Madness of cod is priceless 
for its ability to induce us to grapple with crucial questions in our 
understanding of those around us.
Mike Heid, CBS Radio
  

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RE: iDentifi and text

[Mr. Ed]

Hi,
Which volume button did you use. The up or down button?
Mr. Ed 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:43 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: iDentifi and text

If you want to save the description or text results with iDentifi, after it 
reads the description/text, do the three finger quadruple tap and you can then 
paste that in a word processing app or an eMail. I just used iDentifi on the 
back of a book in a dark room, and got amazingly good results. The same 
situation with KNFB reader got maybe 5% of the words.
Flash is set to automatic.
By the way, after hitting the first take picture button, you can use the volume 
control to take the picture, and for me, the use photo button gains focus 
automatically.

Here is what I got from the back of the book.
>From the theatre reviews of
ZALMEN, OR THE MADNESS OF GOD by Elie Wiesel Not only a bold dramatie statement 
about the repression of the Jews in the Soviet Union, but a cry of anguish 
about the collective guilt of the silent and the futility of gestures. The 
Madness of God has both an urgency and a timeless Mr.
Wiesel has said this is his last, as well as his first, play. hope he 
reconsiders that decision."
Mel Gussow, The New York Times
"Elie Wiesel infuses his theme with a frequently soaring mysticism in ideas and 
words. The beautiful p Washington "A tantalizing play, a difficult play, and 
ultimately a haunt ing play. Although it is set in Russia and deals with the 
per- sistent of the Jewish minority, its deepest concern transcends and 
politics.
David Richards. The washington Star-News stimulating and even The Madness of 
God has a heroic quality that makes the best of it very stirring.
The terrible tensions of the battle to stay alive, the tempta- tions on the one 
hand to arrant cowardice and on the other to mad' heroism, come through with 
frightening vividness.
Elliot Norton, The Boston "sheer fascination. The Madness of cod is priceless 
for its ability to induce us to grapple with crucial questions in our 
understanding of those around us.
Mike Heid, CBS Radio
  

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Re: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things

[Kliphton Miller]

This is not exactly true.  If you are watching something with video, and you 
exit the app, yes the video and audio will stop playing.  But if you don’t 
close the app in the app switcher, and do the 2 finger double tap to start 
music, the audio from your video app will play in the background.  I know this 
is true for the xfinity app, and netflix for sure, can’t speak to any other app 
as I have not tried it with them.  HTH
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Most apps which show any kind of video will stop if you exit the app since 
> normally a sighted person would look at the screen to watch and not want to 
> put the app in the background to do other stuff.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 1:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things
> 
> Hi there,
> I can not figure out how to do other things on my phone if I watch Netflix or 
> Directv. I do not want an Apple Tv as you can not work that with a keyboard 
> or braille display. Do any of you have solutions? Thanks. 
> Elise
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RE: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things

[Sieghard Weitzel]

To me it makes much more sense to own an iPhone and an Apple TV compared to an 
iPhone and iPad. There is of course nothing wrong in having an iPhone and iPad, 
but I just find I'd rather have one device than two, but the Apple TV which 
just sits there and it's a dedicated device with probably the best interface 
for Netflix and Youtube just makes sense to me. Also as somebody who likes the 
home automation stuff and is looking at getting more of it the Apple TV via its 
SIRI capable remote will be a hub for all Apple Home Kit enabled home 
automation devices. I just bought a bunch of Philips Hue bulbs and the bridge 
(received some bulbs today, but still waiting for the bridge) and down the road 
I want to get either the August or Schlage smart lock both of which are Home 
Kit enabled. For people who don't have something like a Sonos system the Apple 
TV can also be a great way to play music from an Apple Music subscription and 
if you want to show videos or photos to sighted family or friends there is 
nothing better.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things

That was a dumb moment. I just know it doesn't work superbly on my computer 
seems sluggish but I use my phone a lot for other things. Maybe this won't be 
the best solution. Is this the advantage most of you find with the Apple Tv? 
I've always wondered why people owned them as well as a phone. I guess I know 
one reason why now.
Eden

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 2:00 pm
Subject: RE: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things

>
>
> Most apps which show any kind of video will stop if you exit the app since 
> normally a sighted person would look at the screen to watch and not want to 
> put the app in the background to do other stuff.
> 
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> Elise Ridout
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 1:03 PM
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> Subject: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things
> 
> Hi there,
> I can not figure out how to do other things on my phone if I watch Netflix or 
> Directv. I do not want an Apple Tv as you can not work that with a keyboard 
> or braille display. Do any of you have solutions? Thanks. 
> Elise
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Re: Identifi

[Paul Richard McGann]

o,thank you, and richard, if you have the chance to try braille display, please 
let us know. I appreciate this. wink1

clarification, maybe I miss or overlook, can this work if I take picture of 
round can like soup, vegetables, or other to identify what kind fo can  it is. 
wink1

sincerely, 
rich 


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 6:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Identifi

The results are read by VoiceOver since the three finger quadruple tap works 
for copying the text, but it doesn'stay the screen, so I doubt the braille 
display will show it, though I have not tried that yet.
I wrote the developer suggesting he make it so braille displays can read the 
results.

Richard



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On Dec 1, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Rajmund  wrote:


  Hello,
  I would say no, it won't be accessible. My reason is: the results of the 
picture is not read by voice over, and are not shown up on the phone's screen. 
Since the answer is not shown on phone, it can't then display it in braille.



  Sent from a Braille Sense 

  - Original Message -
  From: Paul Richard McGann  
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:42 pm
  Subject: Re: Identifi






to all, 



I haven't followed full at all of this post. I did check app store and it 
lacks some notes. 



can you please give me instructions how to use this? you mean having camera 
takign photo of something like round can of soup and it will give description 
what kind of can ti is? and wil lit be accessible to braille usage??? 



I thank you, 



siuncerely, 

rich 



From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:03 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Identifi



I think this could be one suggestion for Anmol, the developer. Since the 
app is designed for the blind I don't really see the point in having the 
"Retake" and "Use Picture" buttons there. It's not like we can look at the 
picture after we take it and decide if we want to use it or take another better 
one.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Harry Bell

Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:55 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Identifi



After taking the photo, did you double tap on the Use Photo button at 
bottom right of screen? Harry



On 1 Dec 2016, at 20:39, Rich De Steno  wrote:

I just installed this identifi app on my iPhone 6 with the latest IOS and I 
received no speech description at all.  I checked all settings and took about 
ten pictures of different things.  None of these resulted in any spoken 
descriptions or words of any kind.



On 12/1/2016 3:26 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:

So here's the deal, I think I expected a bit more out of the app  then it 
gave me. So when I lowered my expectations it's a really good app. You are all 
correct when you say that it does give a bit more detail  then taptapsee.  I 
took a picture of a piece of cheese and it told me what kind it was.   



Lelia  



Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
wrote:

qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I 
haven't had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the Identifi 
since around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very low lighting.  
I selected for the high quality results.  What I am happy about is that taking 
a picture of text was quick and with excellent results.  I hope that those of 
you that are not getting good results, do so eventually.  You'll love it.  Andy 
and Shubert

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President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

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identifi and tap tap see

[Lynette frison]

Hi all,

I thought Tap Tap See used real people to identify pics whereas Identifi uses 
artificial intelligence. Is this the case, or do they both use AI?

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Re: Identifi question

[Richard Turner]

That has nothing to do with iDentifi, that is the camera app, which iDentifi 
apparently opens to take the picture.
I'm not sure what the purpose is other than maybe to, as it says, lock the 
focus on whatever is in the foreground?
Maybe someone with sight or who has read more about this can chime in.
Richard


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On Dec 1, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Donald L. Roberts 
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   Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I will 
ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
erroneous assumptions.

After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  Please 
tell me the purpose of this choice.

Thanks.

Don Roberts

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Re: Identifi

[Richard Turner]

The results are read by VoiceOver since the three finger quadruple tap works 
for copying the text, but it doesn'stay the screen, so I doubt the braille 
display will show it, though I have not tried that yet.
I wrote the developer suggesting he make it so braille displays can read the 
results.

Richard


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On Dec 1, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Rajmund 
> wrote:

Hello,
I would say no, it won't be accessible. My reason is: the results of the 
picture is not read by voice over, and are not shown up on the phone's screen. 
Since the answer is not shown on phone, it can't then display it in braille.



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Paul Richard McGann  >
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:42 pm
Subject: Re: Identifi



to all,

I haven't followed full at all of this post. I did check app store and it lacks 
some notes.

can you please give me instructions how to use this? you mean having camera 
takign photo of something like round can of soup and it will give description 
what kind of can ti is? and wil lit be accessible to braille usage???

I thank you,

siuncerely,
rich

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Identifi

I think this could be one suggestion for Anmol, the developer. Since the app is 
designed for the blind I don't really see the point in having the "Retake" and 
"Use Picture" buttons there. It's not like we can look at the picture after we 
take it and decide if we want to use it or take another better one.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Bell
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

After taking the photo, did you double tap on the Use Photo button at bottom 
right of screen? Harry

On 1 Dec 2016, at 20:39, Rich De Steno 
> wrote:
I just installed this identifi app on my iPhone 6 with the latest IOS and I 
received no speech description at all.  I checked all settings and took about 
ten pictures of different things.  None of these resulted in any spoken 
descriptions or words of any kind.

On 12/1/2016 3:26 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:
So here's the deal, I think I expected a bit more out of the app  then it gave 
me. So when I lowered my expectations it's a really good app. You are all 
correct when you say that it does give a bit more detail  then taptapsee.  I 
took a picture of a piece of cheese and it told me what kind it was.

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
> wrote:
qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I haven't 
had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the Identifi since around 
4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very low lighting.  I selected 
for the high quality results.  What I am happy about is that taking a picture 
of text was quick and with excellent results.  I hope that those of you that 
are not getting good results, do so eventually.  You'll love it.  Andy and 
Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
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Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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RE: Youtube channel updates and such

[Lelia Struve]

Hi on this same line of questioning, ever since a few updates ago with the 
youtube app, I can't like videos any more.

Any tips? 

Thanks 

Lelia

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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:08 AM
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Subject: Re: Youtube channel updates and such

there should be a setting within each channel to which you are subscribed to 
disable notifications from that channel. You may need to look within each 
channel to find it.

-Original Message-
From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 06:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Youtube channel updates and such

Hello once more, everyone.


I have Youtube on my Ipad Mini. I am subscribed to a few channels. One of them 
happens to be the Voice.


I enjoy being subscribed to this channel.

However, I get several notices, in the week, sometimes a few in one day.
Notices of videos that have been uploaded.


Is there a way to stop this from happening?

If so, how would I do this?


I'm sure that I set this up when adding the channel. I just don't think I 
realized how many notices I would receive. I want to look at the channel when I 
want to do so.


Thank you,


Terri

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iDentifi and text

[Richard Turner]

If you want to save the description or text results with iDentifi, after it 
reads the description/text, do the three finger quadruple tap and you can then 
paste that in a word processing app or an eMail. I just used iDentifi on the 
back of a book in a dark room, and got amazingly good results. The same 
situation with KNFB reader got maybe 5% of the words.
Flash is set to automatic.
By the way, after hitting the first take picture button, you can use the volume 
control to take the picture, and for me, the use photo button gains focus 
automatically.

Here is what I got from the back of the book.
>From the theatre reviews of
ZALMEN, OR THE MADNESS OF GOD by Elie Wiesel
Not only a bold dramatie statement about the repression of
the Jews in the Soviet Union, but a cry of anguish about the
collective guilt of the silent and the futility of gestures. The
Madness of God has both an urgency and a timeless
Mr.
Wiesel has said this is his last, as well as his first, play. hope he 
reconsiders that decision."
Mel Gussow, The New York Times
"Elie Wiesel infuses his theme with a frequently soaring
mysticism in ideas and words. The beautiful p
Washington "A tantalizing play, a difficult play, and ultimately a haunt
ing play. Although it is set in Russia and deals with the per-
sistent of the Jewish
minority, its deepest
concern transcends and politics.
David Richards. The washington Star-News
stimulating
and even The Madness of God
has a heroic quality that makes the best of it very stirring.
The terrible tensions of the battle to stay alive, the tempta-
tions on the one hand to arrant cowardice and on the other
to mad' heroism, come through with frightening vividness.
Elliot Norton, The Boston "sheer fascination. The Madness of cod is priceless 
for its
ability to induce us to grapple with crucial questions in our
understanding of those
around us.
Mike Heid, CBS Radio
  

Richard Turner

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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Evan Reese]

The way to keep a picture is to take it with the regular camera app and then 
use Identifi to describe it, rather than taking the picture from within the 
app itself.

Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Julie Dawson

Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

So what if you want to keep a picture you took in reverse then? Thank you.
Julie
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- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: December 01, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee



Hello,
It doesn't keep them by default, so no need to delete.



Sent from a Braille Sense

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From: Julie Dawson  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:19 am
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee




How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
Julie
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  And  leave the rest to God!
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To: ViPone list
Sent: November 30, 2016 6:02 PM
Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee


I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details 
that TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the 
subtle differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.

TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear 
basket with a black and white box by it.

The box was a small bar of soap.
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school 
student on his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try 
TapTapSee, then CamFind.

But, to each to his/her own.
Richard





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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Julie Dawson]

So what if you want to keep a picture you took in reverse then? Thank you.
Julie
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- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: December 01, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee



Hello,
It doesn't keep them by default, so no need to delete.



Sent from a Braille Sense

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From: Julie Dawson  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:19 am
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee




How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
Julie
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- Original Message - 
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To: ViPone list
Sent: November 30, 2016 6:02 PM
Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee


I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details 
that TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the 
subtle differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.

TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear 
basket with a black and white box by it.

The box was a small bar of soap.
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school 
student on his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try 
TapTapSee, then CamFind.

But, to each to his/her own.
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Identifi question

[Donald L. Roberts]

Although the answer to this question may be obvious to 
some, I will ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences 
for making erroneous assumptions.


After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus 
locked unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double 
tapped.  Please tell me the purpose of this choice.


Thanks.

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I highly recommend this app. I found it tremendously easy to use and fully 
voiceover accessible. there is a free version and paid.the difference other 
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Julie Dawson]

How do you delete the pictures you do not want?
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  From: Sharonda Greenlaw 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: November 30, 2016 8:43 PM
  Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee


  Please remember that Identifi was also created to help us read those pictures 
with texts on Facebook. And that works pretty well. A number of people have 
tried it and reported this. 

  Sharonda
  Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 

  On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:19 AM, Julie Dawson  wrote:


How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
Julie
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: ViPone list 
  Sent: November 30, 2016 6:02 PM
  Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee


  I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
  While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details 
that TapTapSee did not.
  It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the 
subtle differences are nice to know.
  One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
  TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
  iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear 
basket with a black and white box by it.
  The box was a small bar of soap. 
  Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
  I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

  I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school 
student on his own.
  So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try 
TapTapSee, then CamFind.
  But, to each to his/her own.
  Richard





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Re: Identifi

[Richard Turner]

i sent that suggestion in through his developer web site.
I posted that link earlier. I can post it again if people can't get to it from 
the app store.
The more people that make that suggestion, along with making the text available 
on screen for braille display users, the more likely it is to make it in a 
future update.
I did get a note back from him thanking me for the suggestion and said he would 
look at putting it in the next build. But I think he should know how many 
people are finding the app useful.
Richard


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On Dec 1, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

I think this could be one suggestion for Anmol, the developer. Since the app is 
designed for the blind I don't really see the point in having the "Retake" and 
"Use Picture" buttons there. It's not like we can look at the picture after we 
take it and decide if we want to use it or take another better one.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Bell
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

After taking the photo, did you double tap on the Use Photo button at bottom 
right of screen? Harry

On 1 Dec 2016, at 20:39, Rich De Steno 
> wrote:

I just installed this identifi app on my iPhone 6 with the latest IOS and I 
received no speech description at all.  I checked all settings and took about 
ten pictures of different things.  None of these resulted in any spoken 
descriptions or words of any kind.

On 12/1/2016 3:26 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:
So here's the deal, I think I expected a bit more out of the app  then it gave 
me. So when I lowered my expectations it's a really good app. You are all 
correct when you say that it does give a bit more detail  then taptapsee.  I 
took a picture of a piece of cheese and it told me what kind it was.

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
> wrote:
qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I haven’t 
had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the Identifi since around 
4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very low lighting.  I selected 
for the high quality results.  What I am happy about is that taking a picture 
of text was quick and with excellent results.  I hope that those of you that 
are not getting good results, do so eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy and 
Shubert
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Re: Identifi

[Rajmund]

Hello,
I would say no, it won't be accessible. My reason is: the results of the 
picture is not read by voice over, and are not shown up on the phone's screen. 
Since the answer is not shown on phone, it can't then display it in braille.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Paul Richard McGann  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:42 pm
Subject: Re: Identifi

>
>
> to all, 
>  
> I haven't followed full at all of this post. I did check app store and it 
> lacks some notes. 
>  
> can you please give me instructions how to use this? you mean having camera 
> takign photo of something like round can of soup and it will give description 
> what kind of can ti is? and wil lit be accessible to braille usage??? 
>  
> I thank you, 
>  
> siuncerely, 
> rich 
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Identifi
>  
> I think this could be one suggestion for Anmol, the developer. Since the app 
> is designed for the blind I don't really see the point in having the "Retake" 
> and "Use Picture" buttons there. It's not like we can look at the picture 
> after we take it and decide if we want to use it or take another better one.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Bell
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Identifi
>  
> After taking the photo, did you double tap on the Use Photo button at bottom 
> right of screen? Harry
> 
> On 1 Dec 2016, at 20:39, Rich De Steno  wrote:
> I just installed this identifi app on my iPhone 6 with the latest IOS and I 
> received no speech description at all.  I checked all settings and took about 
> ten pictures of different things.  None of these resulted in any spoken 
> descriptions or words of any kind.
>  
> On 12/1/2016 3:26 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:
> So here's the deal, I think I expected a bit more out of the app  then it 
> gave me. So when I lowered my expectations it's a really good app. You are 
> all correct when you say that it does give a bit more detail  then taptapsee. 
>  I took a picture of a piece of cheese and it told me what kind it was.   
> 
> Lelia  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I haven't 
> had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the Identifi since 
> around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very low lighting.  I 
> selected for the high quality results.  What I am happy about is that taking 
> a picture of text was quick and with excellent results.  I hope that those of 
> you that are not getting good results, do so eventually.  You'll love it.  
> Andy and Shubert
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Co-Chairman
> Salem Commission on Disabilities
> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things

[Fred Olver]

Thanks so much.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things


It is not correct about an Apple TV and a keyboard. AppleTV 
fourth-generation works with Bluetooth keyboards and voiceover. Probably not 
with the braille display, although I don't know that for absolutely sure. As 
for doing other things while  watching Netflix or DirecTV, I don't think you 
can. It wouldn't make any sense, because sighted people need to be looking 
at the screen while they do these things. So having the app run in the 
background with no picture showing would be useless.


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:03 PM, Elise Ridout  wrote:

Hi there,
I can not figure out how to do other things on my phone if I watch Netflix 
or Directv. I do not want an Apple Tv as you can not work that with a 
keyboard or braille display. Do any of you have solutions? Thanks.

Elise

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Re: Identifi

[Paul Richard McGann]

to all, 

I haven’t followed full at all of this post. I did check app store and it lacks 
some notes. 

can you please give me instructions how to use this? you mean having camera 
takign photo of something like round can of soup and it will give description 
what kind of can ti is? and wil lit be accessible to braille usage??? 

I thank you, 

siuncerely, 
rich 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Identifi

I think this could be one suggestion for Anmol, the developer. Since the app is 
designed for the blind I don't really see the point in having the "Retake" and 
"Use Picture" buttons there. It's not like we can look at the picture after we 
take it and decide if we want to use it or take another better one.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Harry Bell
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

 

After taking the photo, did you double tap on the Use Photo button at bottom 
right of screen? Harry


On 1 Dec 2016, at 20:39, Rich De Steno  wrote:

  I just installed this identifi app on my iPhone 6 with the latest IOS and I 
received no speech description at all.  I checked all settings and took about 
ten pictures of different things.  None of these resulted in any spoken 
descriptions or words of any kind.

   

  On 12/1/2016 3:26 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:

So here's the deal, I think I expected a bit more out of the app  then it 
gave me. So when I lowered my expectations it's a really good app. You are all 
correct when you say that it does give a bit more detail  then taptapsee.  I 
took a picture of a piece of cheese and it told me what kind it was.   

Lelia  

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
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  qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I 
haven’t had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the Identifi 
since around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very low lighting.  
I selected for the high quality results.  What I am happy about is that taking 
a picture of text was quick and with excellent results.  I hope that those of 
you that are not getting good results, do so eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy 
and Shubert

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Re: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things

[Elise Ridout]

That was a dumb moment. I just know it doesn't work superbly on my computer 
seems sluggish but I use my phone a lot for other things. Maybe this won't be 
the best solution. Is this the advantage most of you find with the Apple Tv? 
I've always wondered why people owned them as well as a phone. I guess I know 
one reason why now.
Eden

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To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 2:00 pm
Subject: RE: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things

>
>
> Most apps which show any kind of video will stop if you exit the app since 
> normally a sighted person would look at the screen to watch and not want to 
> put the app in the background to do other stuff.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Hi there,
> I can not figure out how to do other things on my phone if I watch Netflix or 
> Directv. I do not want an Apple Tv as you can not work that with a keyboard 
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RE: apple tv, and emails

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No, Apple has not brought Safari to the Apple TV 4th Generation and so far has 
apparently not allowed third party developers such as Google or Firefox to make 
browsers for the Apple TV.

Regards,
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Hi Guys,
With the apple tv 4th generation, or what ever is the name of the last apple 
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Hi Guys,

With the apple tv 4th generation, or what ever is the name of the last apple
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RE: Identifi

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I think this could be one suggestion for Anmol, the developer. Since the app is 
designed for the blind I don't really see the point in having the "Retake" and 
"Use Picture" buttons there. It's not like we can look at the picture after we 
take it and decide if we want to use it or take another better one.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Harry Bell
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:55 PM
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After taking the photo, did you double tap on the Use Photo button at bottom 
right of screen? Harry

On 1 Dec 2016, at 20:39, Rich De Steno 
> wrote:

I just installed this identifi app on my iPhone 6 with the latest IOS and I 
received no speech description at all.  I checked all settings and took about 
ten pictures of different things.  None of these resulted in any spoken 
descriptions or words of any kind.

On 12/1/2016 3:26 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:
So here's the deal, I think I expected a bit more out of the app  then it gave 
me. So when I lowered my expectations it's a really good app. You are all 
correct when you say that it does give a bit more detail  then taptapsee.  I 
took a picture of a piece of cheese and it told me what kind it was.

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
> wrote:
qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I haven’t 
had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the Identifi since around 
4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very low lighting.  I selected 
for the high quality results.  What I am happy about is that taking a picture 
of text was quick and with excellent results.  I hope that those of you that 
are not getting good results, do so eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy and 
Shubert
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President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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RE: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Most apps which show any kind of video will stop if you exit the app since 
normally a sighted person would look at the screen to watch and not want to put 
the app in the background to do other stuff.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Elise Ridout
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things

Hi there,
I can not figure out how to do other things on my phone if I watch Netflix or 
Directv. I do not want an Apple Tv as you can not work that with a keyboard or 
braille display. Do any of you have solutions? Thanks. 
Elise

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RE: iDENTIFI APP

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The app doesn't save pictures. If you want to keep a picture just take the 
picture first with the Camera app and then use iDentify to import and recognize 
it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wendy Alling
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP

No, it's not in the camera roll. I looked there first to see if I could find it 
but it's not there.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Daniel L. Gervais 
>  wrote:
> 
> It might not keep the photo, but if it did, it might be in the camera roll.
> 
> Does TapTapSee still just give you a limited number of shots before you have 
> to pay to get more or have they removed that?  I had deleted the app as I 
> could only take 25 pictures before I had to buy more.
> 
> 
> From:Wendy Alling 
> To:
> Date:2016/12/01 1:18 PM
> Subject:Re: iDENTIFI APP
> 
> Hello all, I just got this app. I took a picture and it described it well. 
> Where is the picture I took? Does it save them? I want the picture. I can't 
> find it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Portia Scott  wrote:
>> 
>> Wait! It actually read half of the computer screen? It didn't garble 
>> it at all? I've used Talking Goggles before, and so has my friend 
>> Michelle, but it always garbled what it read. So if this reads text 
>> with no garble at all whatsoever, then this app is a winner.
>> 
>>> On 12/1/16, Rajmund  wrote:
>>> Hello Sieghard,
>>> Please, point TAPTAPSEE against an opened computer screen, and point 
>>> identifi, and report back your results? TAPTAPSEE told me it was an 
>>> opened laptop lid. Identifi pretty much scanned, and read half of 
>>> the screen to me, which matched with what NVDA saw. Because of that, 
>>> if we use speech on our devices, but the one where the app is, this 
>>> app can rescue us, just by pointing it at a screen, changing it to text, 
>>> and send off the image.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>>> Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:40 pm
>>> Subject: RE: iDENTIFI APP
>>> 
 
 
 Try it with Tap Tap See, you may find you get the same or a very 
 similar result. Everything I tried whether it was taking a picture 
 of a product or letting it look at pictures in my camera roll came 
 back similarly with Tap Tap See. I am not trying to put down 
 iDentifi, I think this young man did a great job, but I am just 
 pointing out that Tap Tap See also does a pretty good job.
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Greg Wocher
 Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 3:58 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP
 
 Hello,
 I was also really impressed with this app. I took a picture of my 
 sons hand holding his XBox controller and the app said:
 Male hand holding a gold XBox360 wireless controller.
 That absolutely amazed my Son and I.
 Regards,
 Greg Wocher
 
 
 On 12/1/2016 6:34 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
 Hello, I just played with the Identifi App with all kinds of 
 various pictures, either ones I just took or, in my photo Camera 
 Roll.  I am absolutely totally impressed.  I must of taken and 
 picked photos about 15 times and 100% accuracy.  I also changed the 
 settings to read text and it read me all the text 100% again.  Now, 
 I have Tap Tap See and it also works quite well but, I seem to get 
 more details withIdentifi.  I also have the K N F Reader and get 
 better results with IdentifiBut as far as that goes, I am 
 probably the cause of not having the best settings with N F Reader.  
 This 18 year old individual is absolutely great!!!  Andy and 
 Shubert Andrew J. LaPointe Co-Chairman Salem Commission on 
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Re: Identifi

[Richard]

I found it interesting that you habve to use this button,
when Voice Over did not read this in the instructions.

Rick

- Original Message - 
From: "Lelia Struve" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Identifi


If you did not hit the use photo, don't feel bad. It took me a bit to 
realize that you have to do that.

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>
> After taking the photo, did you double tap on the Use Photo button at 
> bottom right of screen? Harry
>
>> On 1 Dec 2016, at 20:39, Rich De Steno  wrote:
>>
>> I just installed this identifi app on my iPhone 6 with the latest IOS and 
>> I received no speech description at all.  I checked all settings and took 
>> about ten pictures of different things.  None of these resulted in any 
>> spoken descriptions or words of any kind.
>>
>>> On 12/1/2016 3:26 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:
>>> So here's the deal, I think I expected a bit more out of the app  then 
>>> it gave me. So when I lowered my expectations it's a really good app. 
>>> You are all correct when you say that it does give a bit more detail 
>>> then taptapsee.  I took a picture of a piece of cheese and it told me 
>>> what kind it was.
>>>
>>> Lelia
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s   with the 
 latest I O S.  I haven’t had a bad pic result yet and I have been 
 playing with the Identifi since around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took 
 some pics in very low lighting.  I selected for the high quality 
 results.  What I am happy about is that taking a picture of text was 
 quick and with excellent results.  I hope that those of you that are 
 not getting good results, do so eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy and 
 Shubert
 Andrew J. LaPointe
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Re: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things

[Mary Otten]

It is not correct about an Apple TV and a keyboard. AppleTV fourth-generation 
works with Bluetooth keyboards and voiceover. Probably not with the braille 
display, although I don't know that for absolutely sure. As for doing other 
things while  watching Netflix or DirecTV, I don't think you can. It wouldn't 
make any sense, because sighted people need to be looking at the screen while 
they do these things. So having the app run in the background with no picture 
showing would be useless. 

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Re: Identifi

[Lelia Struve]

If you did not hit the use photo, don't feel bad. It took me a bit to realize 
that you have to do that.

Lelia 

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> On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Harry Bell  wrote:
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> After taking the photo, did you double tap on the Use Photo button at bottom 
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>> received no speech description at all.  I checked all settings and took 
>> about ten pictures of different things.  None of these resulted in any 
>> spoken descriptions or words of any kind.
>> 
>>> On 12/1/2016 3:26 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:
>>> So here's the deal, I think I expected a bit more out of the app  then it 
>>> gave me. So when I lowered my expectations it's a really good app. You are 
>>> all correct when you say that it does give a bit more detail  then 
>>> taptapsee.  I took a picture of a piece of cheese and it told me what kind 
>>> it was.   
>>> 
>>> Lelia 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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 qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s   with the 
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 with the Identifi since around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics 
 in very low lighting.  I selected for the high quality results.  What I am 
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[Elise Ridout]

Hi there,
I can not figure out how to do other things on my phone if I watch Netflix or 
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braille display. Do any of you have solutions? Thanks. 
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Re: Identifi

[Harry Bell]

After taking the photo, did you double tap on the Use Photo button at bottom 
right of screen? Harry

> On 1 Dec 2016, at 20:39, Rich De Steno  wrote:
> 
> I just installed this identifi app on my iPhone 6 with the latest IOS and I 
> received no speech description at all.  I checked all settings and took about 
> ten pictures of different things.  None of these resulted in any spoken 
> descriptions or words of any kind.
> 
>> On 12/1/2016 3:26 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:
>> So here's the deal, I think I expected a bit more out of the app  then it 
>> gave me. So when I lowered my expectations it's a really good app. You are 
>> all correct when you say that it does give a bit more detail  then 
>> taptapsee.  I took a picture of a piece of cheese and it told me what kind 
>> it was.   
>> 
>> Lelia 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I 
>>> haven’t had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the Identifi 
>>> since around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very low 
>>> lighting.  I selected for the high quality results.  What I am happy about 
>>> is that taking a picture of text was quick and with excellent results.  I 
>>> hope that those of you that are not getting good results, do so eventually. 
>>>  You’ll love it.  Andy and Shubert
>>> Andrew J. LaPointe
>>> Co-Chairman
>>> Salem Commission on Disabilities
>>> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>>> 34 Raymond Ave.
>>> Salem, MA. 01970
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RE: Identifi

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi,

After you take the picture, you need to double tap the "Use Photo" button and 
wait a few seconds for the description.



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Steno [ironr...@verizon.net]
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Subject: Re: Identifi

I just installed this identifi app on my iPhone 6 with the latest IOS and I 
received no speech description at all.  I checked all settings and took about 
ten pictures of different things.  None of these resulted in any spoken 
descriptions or words of any kind.

On 12/1/2016 3:26 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:
So here's the deal, I think I expected a bit more out of the app  then it gave 
me. So when I lowered my expectations it's a really good app. You are all 
correct when you say that it does give a bit more detail  then taptapsee.  I 
took a picture of a piece of cheese and it told me what kind it was.

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
> wrote:

qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I haven’t 
had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the Identifi since around 
4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very low lighting.  I selected 
for the high quality results.  What I am happy about is that taking a picture 
of text was quick and with excellent results.  I hope that those of you that 
are not getting good results, do so eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy and 
Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
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President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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Hi:
I selected and took a pict. Nothing happened at all.
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
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> qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I haven’t 
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> selected for the high quality results.  What I am happy about is that taking 
> a picture of text was quick and with excellent results.  I hope that those of 
> you that are not getting good results, do so eventually.  You’ll love it.  
> Andy and Shubert
> Andrew J. LaPointe
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Re: Identifi

[Rich De Steno]

I just installed this identifi app on my iPhone 6 with the latest IOS 
and I received no speech description at all.  I checked all settings and 
took about ten pictures of different things.  None of these resulted in 
any spoken descriptions or words of any kind.



On 12/1/2016 3:26 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:
So here's the deal, I think I expected a bit more out of the app  then 
it gave me. So when I lowered my expectations it's a really good app. 
You are all correct when you say that it does give a bit more detail 
 then taptapsee.  I took a picture of a piece of cheese and it told me 
what kind it was.


Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
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*qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  
I haven’t had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the 
Identifi since around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in 
very low lighting.  I selected for the high quality results.  What I 
am happy about is that taking a picture of text was quick and with 
excellent results. I hope that those of you that are not getting good 
results, do so eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy and Shubert*

*Andrew J. LaPointe
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President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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Re: Identifi

[Lelia Struve]

So here's the deal, I think I expected a bit more out of the app  then it gave 
me. So when I lowered my expectations it's a really good app. You are all 
correct when you say that it does give a bit more detail  then taptapsee.  I 
took a picture of a piece of cheese and it told me what kind it was.   

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

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> selected for the high quality results.  What I am happy about is that taking 
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> Andy and Shubert
> Andrew J. LaPointe
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RE: info on the IPhone SE

[BBS]

Hi Kelly. Actually, the iPhone SE was made in the spring of this year. So its 
life span if Apple indeed follows through with the 5 year limit would be 2021.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: info on the IPhone SE

Chip,

Another factor to consider is the processor is from 2015.  Apple stops
updating iOS after five years so the SE will no longer receive iOS
updates in 2020, a year shorter than the 7.  It is believed that Apple
will not refresh the SE in 2017.  It is not the size that is different
but the processor is important. I just bought a 7 after owning an
iPhone 5 and don’t find the slightly bigger size that much of a
bother.  I would say that I dropped by my local Apple store here in
Chicago wearing different kinds of shirts and pants to determine if
the standard 6, 6s, or 7 would fit.  It did without a problem.  Staff
at the store were cool with me handling the phone after I told them
what I wanted to learn.

Kelly


On 11/28/16, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)  wrote:
> Cool, thanks.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 3:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: info on the IPhone SE
>
> Hi Lucy,
>
> First of all, I should mention that you can only call the first 4 entries on
> your Favourites list, that is all that is shown in the menu that pops up
> when you hard press on the phone app. I use "Favorite 1, Favorite 2 etc. to
> substitute for the actual names, those of course are whatever you have in
> your Favorites.
> If you have a 6S/6S Plus or 7/7 Plus which currently are the only phones
> which have 3D Touch you simply press harder on the Phone app and the
> following menu pops up:
>
> Dismiss Shortcut menu - double tap on that to do what it says, you can also
> press the home button or do a scrub/back gesture
> View Most recent Voice Mail
> Create New Contact
> Search for contact
> View most recent call
> Favourites (Heading)
> Add widget - this puts a Favourites widget in the Today screen
> Favourite entry 1
> Favourite entry 2
> Favourite entry 3
> Favourite entry 4
>
> Just FYI, visually the 4 names are displayed across from left to right just
> above the home button, when I use this I don't actually swipe but rather
> just touch the screen a bit above the home button and if I don't land on the
> contact I want I just quickly drag my finger left or right a bit.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 12:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: info on the IPhone SE
>
> Hi Sieghard. Can you please explain to me how you would find a contact and
> make a call without opening the phone app? I haven’t used 3D touch very much
> at all, but that seems very useful!
> Thanks.
> Lucy Edmonds
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 3:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: info on the IPhone SE
>
> You were the one I had in mind when I mentioned at least one person on the
> list who uses the 3D Touch a lot. I thought I would use it a lot for mail
> for composing messages, but strangely I don't. Maybe that's because I do a
> lot more reading than I do writing. Smile.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
> > wrote:
> I certainly use it quite a bit to take advantage of all the shortcuts as in
> quickly taking a Photo, calling a favourite contact without ever opening the
> Phone app, doing an app search in the app store etc.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 9:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: info on the IPhone SE
>
> Well, it probably depends on the user and what they do with their phone. I
> guess your wife will have to make that decision. I know I don't use it much,
> but I am a blind user used to their Waze. I do use it for a couple of
> things, such as quickly getting rid of all notifications. And I know at
> least one other user on this list to apparently uses it quite a lot. Not
> much help I guess. I suspect it's one of those things if you don't have it,
> you don't 

New app for finding traffic lights

[Gary Bowers]

I have not tried the following app because it doesn't cover my area.
Consequently, I can't answer any questions about it that aren't already on
the iTunes page. 

This is a new free app for travelers who are blind or visually impaired. 

The app is called City Lights - Navigation and is designed to give a
vibration alert as a traveler nears a traffic light. 

Cities supported at the moment include: 

Australia: Victoria State.

Canada: Montreal.

Greece: Athens.

UK: Manchester.

USA: San Francisco, Oakland, Chula Vista and Boston.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/city-lights-navigation/id1171233429?mt=8

Gary in Texas

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Identifi

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I haven’t 
had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the Identifi since around 
4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very low lighting.  I selected 
for the high quality results.  What I am happy about is that taking a picture 
of text was quick and with excellent results.  I hope that those of you that 
are not getting good results, do so eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy and 
Shubert
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President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
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Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

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Re: iDENTIFI APP

[Wendy Alling]

No, it's not in the camera roll. I looked there first to see if I could find it 
but it's not there.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Daniel L. Gervais 
>  wrote:
> 
> It might not keep the photo, but if it did, it might be in the camera roll.
> 
> Does TapTapSee still just give you a limited number of shots before you have 
> to pay to get more or have they removed that?  I had deleted the app as I 
> could only take 25 pictures before I had to buy more.
> 
> 
> From:Wendy Alling 
> To:
> Date:2016/12/01 1:18 PM
> Subject:Re: iDENTIFI APP
> 
> Hello all, I just got this app. I took a picture and it described it well. 
> Where is the picture I took? Does it save them? I want the picture. I can't 
> find it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Portia Scott  wrote:
>> 
>> Wait! It actually read half of the computer screen? It didn't garble
>> it at all? I've used Talking Goggles before, and so has my friend
>> Michelle, but it always garbled what it read. So if this reads text
>> with no garble at all whatsoever, then this app is a winner.
>> 
>>> On 12/1/16, Rajmund  wrote:
>>> Hello Sieghard,
>>> Please, point TAPTAPSEE against an opened computer screen, and point
>>> identifi, and report back your results? TAPTAPSEE told me it was an opened
>>> laptop lid. Identifi pretty much scanned, and read half of the screen to me,
>>> which matched with what NVDA saw. Because of that, if we use speech on our
>>> devices, but the one where the app is, this app can rescue us, just by
>>> pointing it at a screen, changing it to text, and send off the image.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>>> Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:40 pm
>>> Subject: RE: iDENTIFI APP
>>> 
 
 
 Try it with Tap Tap See, you may find you get the same or a very similar
 result. Everything I tried whether it was taking a picture of a product or
 letting it look at pictures in my camera roll came back similarly with Tap
 Tap See. I am not trying to put down iDentifi, I think this young man did
 a great job, but I am just pointing out that Tap Tap See also does a
 pretty good job.
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Greg Wocher
 Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 3:58 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP
 
 Hello,
 I was also really impressed with this app. I took a picture of my sons
 hand holding his XBox controller and the app said:
 Male hand holding a gold XBox360 wireless controller.
 That absolutely amazed my Son and I.
 Regards,
 Greg Wocher
 
 
 On 12/1/2016 6:34 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
 Hello, I just played with the Identifi App with all kinds of various
 pictures, either ones I just took or, in my photo Camera Roll.  I am
 absolutely totally impressed.  I must of taken and picked photos about 15
 times and 100% accuracy.  I also changed the settings to read text and it
 read me all the text 100% again.  Now, I have Tap Tap See and it also
 works quite well but, I seem to get more details withIdentifi.  I also
 have the K N F Reader and get better results with IdentifiBut as far
 as that goes, I am probably the cause of not having the best settings with
 N F Reader.  This 18 year old individual is absolutely great!!!  Andy and
 Shubert
 Andrew J. LaPointe
 Co-Chairman
 Salem Commission on Disabilities
 President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
 34 Raymond Ave.
 Salem, MA. 01970
 Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: iDENTIFI APP

[Evan Reese]

There's no limit these days as far as I know.
Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Daniel L. Gervais

Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 1:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP

It might not keep the photo, but if it did, it might be in the camera roll.

Does TapTapSee still just give you a limited number of shots before you have 
to pay to get more or have they removed that?  I had deleted the app as I 
could only take 25 pictures before I had to buy more.



From: Wendy Alling 
To: 
Date: 2016/12/01 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP

Hello all, I just got this app. I took a picture and it described it well. 
Where is the picture I took? Does it save them? I want the picture. I can't 
find it.


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Portia Scott  wrote:

Wait! It actually read half of the computer screen? It didn't garble
it at all? I've used Talking Goggles before, and so has my friend
Michelle, but it always garbled what it read. So if this reads text
with no garble at all whatsoever, then this app is a winner.


On 12/1/16, Rajmund  wrote:
Hello Sieghard,
Please, point TAPTAPSEE against an opened computer screen, and point
identifi, and report back your results? TAPTAPSEE told me it was an 
opened
laptop lid. Identifi pretty much scanned, and read half of the screen to 
me,
which matched with what NVDA saw. Because of that, if we use speech on 
our

devices, but the one where the app is, this app can rescue us, just by
pointing it at a screen, changing it to text, and send off the image.



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:40 pm
Subject: RE: iDENTIFI APP




Try it with Tap Tap See, you may find you get the same or a very similar
result. Everything I tried whether it was taking a picture of a product 
or
letting it look at pictures in my camera roll came back similarly with 
Tap
Tap See. I am not trying to put down iDentifi, I think this young man 
did

a great job, but I am just pointing out that Tap Tap See also does a
pretty good job.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP

Hello,
I was also really impressed with this app. I took a picture of my sons
hand holding his XBox controller and the app said:
Male hand holding a gold XBox360 wireless controller.
That absolutely amazed my Son and I.
Regards,
Greg Wocher


On 12/1/2016 6:34 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
Hello, I just played with the Identifi App with all kinds of various
pictures, either ones I just took or, in my photo Camera Roll.  I am
absolutely totally impressed.  I must of taken and picked photos about 
15
times and 100% accuracy.  I also changed the settings to read text and 
it

read me all the text 100% again.  Now, I have Tap Tap See and it also
works quite well but, I seem to get more details withIdentifi.  I also
have the K N F Reader and get better results with IdentifiBut as far
as that goes, I am probably the cause of not having the best settings 
with
N F Reader.  This 18 year old individual is absolutely great!!!  Andy 
and

Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: iDENTIFI APP

[Rajmund]

Hello,
No, it doesn't save them.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Wendy Alling  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:17 pm
Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP

>
>
> Hello all, I just got this app. I took a picture and it described it well. 
> Where is the picture I took? Does it save them? I want the picture. I can't 
> find it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Portia Scott  wrote:
> > 
> > Wait! It actually read half of the computer screen? It didn't garble
> > it at all? I've used Talking Goggles before, and so has my friend
> > Michelle, but it always garbled what it read. So if this reads text
> > with no garble at all whatsoever, then this app is a winner.
> > 
> >> On 12/1/16, Rajmund  wrote:
> >> Hello Sieghard,
> >> Please, point TAPTAPSEE against an opened computer screen, and point
> >> identifi, and report back your results? TAPTAPSEE told me it was an opened
> >> laptop lid. Identifi pretty much scanned, and read half of the screen to 
> >> me,
> >> which matched with what NVDA saw. Because of that, if we use speech on our
> >> devices, but the one where the app is, this app can rescue us, just by
> >> pointing it at a screen, changing it to text, and send off the image.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sent from a Braille Sense
> >> 
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> >> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> >> Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:40 pm
> >> Subject: RE: iDENTIFI APP
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Try it with Tap Tap See, you may find you get the same or a very similar
> >>> result. Everything I tried whether it was taking a picture of a product or
> >>> letting it look at pictures in my camera roll came back similarly with Tap
> >>> Tap See. I am not trying to put down iDentifi, I think this young man did
> >>> a great job, but I am just pointing out that Tap Tap See also does a
> >>> pretty good job.
> >>> 
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> >>> Of Greg Wocher
> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 3:58 AM
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP
> >>> 
> >>> Hello,
> >>> I was also really impressed with this app. I took a picture of my sons
> >>> hand holding his XBox controller and the app said:
> >>> Male hand holding a gold XBox360 wireless controller.
> >>> That absolutely amazed my Son and I.
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Greg Wocher
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On 12/1/2016 6:34 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
> >>> Hello, I just played with the Identifi App with all kinds of various
> >>> pictures, either ones I just took or, in my photo Camera Roll.  I am
> >>> absolutely totally impressed.  I must of taken and picked photos about 15
> >>> times and 100% accuracy.  I also changed the settings to read text and it
> >>> read me all the text 100% again.  Now, I have Tap Tap See and it also
> >>> works quite well but, I seem to get more details withIdentifi.  I also
> >>> have the K N F Reader and get better results with IdentifiBut as far
> >>> as that goes, I am probably the cause of not having the best settings with
> >>> N F Reader.  This 18 year old individual is absolutely great!!!  Andy and
> >>> Shubert
> >>> Andrew J. LaPointe
> >>> Co-Chairman
> >>> Salem Commission on Disabilities
> >>> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> >>> 34 Raymond Ave.
> >>> Salem, MA. 01970
> >>> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: iDENTIFI APP

[Daniel L. Gervais]

It might not keep the photo, but if it did, it might be in the camera roll.

Does TapTapSee still just give you a limited number of shots before you have to 
pay to get more or have they removed that?  I had deleted the app as I could 
only take 25 pictures before I had to buy more.


From:   Wendy Alling 
To: 
Date:   2016/12/01 1:18 PM
Subject:Re: iDENTIFI APP

Hello all, I just got this app. I took a picture and it described it well. 
Where is the picture I took? Does it save them? I want the picture. I can't 
find it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Portia Scott  wrote:
> 
> Wait! It actually read half of the computer screen? It didn't garble
> it at all? I've used Talking Goggles before, and so has my friend
> Michelle, but it always garbled what it read. So if this reads text
> with no garble at all whatsoever, then this app is a winner.
> 
>> On 12/1/16, Rajmund  wrote:
>> Hello Sieghard,
>> Please, point TAPTAPSEE against an opened computer screen, and point
>> identifi, and report back your results? TAPTAPSEE told me it was an opened
>> laptop lid. Identifi pretty much scanned, and read half of the screen to me,
>> which matched with what NVDA saw. Because of that, if we use speech on our
>> devices, but the one where the app is, this app can rescue us, just by
>> pointing it at a screen, changing it to text, and send off the image.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>> Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:40 pm
>> Subject: RE: iDENTIFI APP
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Try it with Tap Tap See, you may find you get the same or a very similar
>>> result. Everything I tried whether it was taking a picture of a product or
>>> letting it look at pictures in my camera roll came back similarly with Tap
>>> Tap See. I am not trying to put down iDentifi, I think this young man did
>>> a great job, but I am just pointing out that Tap Tap See also does a
>>> pretty good job.
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Greg Wocher
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 3:58 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I was also really impressed with this app. I took a picture of my sons
>>> hand holding his XBox controller and the app said:
>>> Male hand holding a gold XBox360 wireless controller.
>>> That absolutely amazed my Son and I.
>>> Regards,
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/1/2016 6:34 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
>>> Hello, I just played with the Identifi App with all kinds of various
>>> pictures, either ones I just took or, in my photo Camera Roll.  I am
>>> absolutely totally impressed.  I must of taken and picked photos about 15
>>> times and 100% accuracy.  I also changed the settings to read text and it
>>> read me all the text 100% again.  Now, I have Tap Tap See and it also
>>> works quite well but, I seem to get more details withIdentifi.  I also
>>> have the K N F Reader and get better results with IdentifiBut as far
>>> as that goes, I am probably the cause of not having the best settings with
>>> N F Reader.  This 18 year old individual is absolutely great!!!  Andy and
>>> Shubert
>>> Andrew J. LaPointe
>>> Co-Chairman
>>> Salem Commission on Disabilities
>>> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>>> 34 Raymond Ave.
>>> Salem, MA. 01970
>>> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
>>> --
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>>> list..
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Re: iDENTIFI APP

[Rajmund]

Well, I had thunderbird open, it read the highlighted mail's subject, who it 
was from, and half of the body. I'll do it again, just to confirm. It garbled 
one or 2 words, but it read who the message  was from, when it was sent, and  a 
few words from the actual body. It's a 13 inch laptop, and can't exactly aim it 
accurately with sighted help. It appears if it's dark, it's better.   But since 
the app is keep throwing out the phone, I'll try the iPad as well.

IPad gave back, "You think it was more than a". No garbling at all. Now, turned 
on lights, laptop in the same position. After having to turn on focus, (without 
focus, in light I got nothing) it read an entire sentence, clearly. Except that 
Daniel faded out, and that is the British voice. I would say to try it, it is 
certainly extremely useful. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Portia Scott  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP

>
>
> Wait! It actually read half of the computer screen? It didn't garble
> it at all? I've used Talking Goggles before, and so has my friend
> Michelle, but it always garbled what it read. So if this reads text
> with no garble at all whatsoever, then this app is a winner.
> 
> On 12/1/16, Rajmund  wrote:
> > Hello Sieghard,
> > Please, point TAPTAPSEE against an opened computer screen, and point
> > identifi, and report back your results? TAPTAPSEE told me it was an opened
> > laptop lid. Identifi pretty much scanned, and read half of the screen to me,
> > which matched with what NVDA saw. Because of that, if we use speech on our
> > devices, but the one where the app is, this app can rescue us, just by
> > pointing it at a screen, changing it to text, and send off the image.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> > To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> > Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:40 pm
> > Subject: RE: iDENTIFI APP
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Try it with Tap Tap See, you may find you get the same or a very similar
> >> result. Everything I tried whether it was taking a picture of a product or
> >> letting it look at pictures in my camera roll came back similarly with Tap
> >> Tap See. I am not trying to put down iDentifi, I think this young man did
> >> a great job, but I am just pointing out that Tap Tap See also does a
> >> pretty good job.
> >>
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> >> Of Greg Wocher
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 3:58 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >> I was also really impressed with this app. I took a picture of my sons
> >> hand holding his XBox controller and the app said:
> >> Male hand holding a gold XBox360 wireless controller.
> >> That absolutely amazed my Son and I.
> >> Regards,
> >> Greg Wocher
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/1/2016 6:34 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
> >> Hello, I just played with the Identifi App with all kinds of various
> >> pictures, either ones I just took or, in my photo Camera Roll.  I am
> >> absolutely totally impressed.  I must of taken and picked photos about 15
> >> times and 100% accuracy.  I also changed the settings to read text and it
> >> read me all the text 100% again.  Now, I have Tap Tap See and it also
> >> works quite well but, I seem to get more details withIdentifi.  I also
> >> have the K N F Reader and get better results with IdentifiBut as far
> >> as that goes, I am probably the cause of not having the best settings with
> >> N F Reader.  This 18 year old individual is absolutely great!!!  Andy and
> >> Shubert
> >> Andrew J. LaPointe
> >> Co-Chairman
> >> Salem Commission on Disabilities
> >> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> >> 34 Raymond Ave.
> >> Salem, MA. 01970
> >> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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RE: My exchange with Neato Robotics customer care regarding accessibility

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi Sieghard,

Thanks for trying this. It’s similar to the response I received through 
Customer Support, only much more blatant. I was a bit more encouraged by the 
response to a direct message through Twitter, but only time will tell. I agree 
that the more requests for VoiceOver accessibility they get, the more likely 
they are to respond.

One thing that could be tried through Customer Support, is to specifically 
request they forward thie issue on to what they call Tier 3. I learned about 
this when dealing with Customer Support about a possibly defective unit. I 
understand Tier 3 to be their home office folks, which I believe are in 
California. I believe Customer Support to be widely distributed among at least 
several countries, based on the range of accents I have encountered during 
phone support sessions.

Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My exchange with Neato Robotics customer care regarding accessibility

Hello,

I don’t currently own a Neato robotic vacuum, but I’m interested and of course 
was not optimistic when I read recently that accessibility of the Neato app has 
taken a step backwards in recent updates. This makes me wonder if they decide 
to release an update in a month or in 2 or next year which will make the app 
completely inaccessible. Then I spent several hundred Dollars extra to get a 
connected vacuum for nothing. I decided to write to Neato via their website. I 
actually also called their support and explained to the person who answered 
what I was after. He was actually sympathetic and promised he would bring this 
up with management or his supervisor, but he als encouraged me to send in 
feedback via the website. In my message I explained about Voiceover and how 
many large companies like Apple, Google and others are putting significant 
efforts and resources towards accessibility but also that individual developers 
must do their part. I explained what I heard about the Neato app regarding 
accessibility and asked if Neato Robotics would not take a look at the 
resources that Apple makes available on their developer portal regarding 
accessibility guidelines and so on. The first reply I received totally missed 
the point and the customer service person asked if I was tryingt o control 
Neato with Alexa or voice commands. I wrote another email again describing what 
Voiceover is and does and below is the reply I received:

##- Please type your reply above this line -##
Your request (306672) has been updated. To add additional comments, reply to 
this email.

Dermot (Neato Robotics)
Dec 1, 14:11 UTC
Good Morning Mr Weizel .
I have read your mail and unfortunately at this time can I help you.
There may be a work around via Alexa.
This can be Purchased from Amazon
you can give voice commands to the Neato  via Alexa.
It is a similar to Siri,
There is a link to Amazons site.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201848700
You can give Alexa  Voice commands to clean cycles .

I hope this can be of assistance to you

Have a nice day
Dermot
Neato Robotics Customer Care

I just replied that this message is not at all helpful and that I am not 
willing to accept it as is. I told the guy that just because I am blind I 
should not be expected to spend another $180 on top of an already expensive 
product just so I can use said product. Furthermore I told him that I am in 
Canada and Amazon Canada does not even offer the Echo here and it is not 
officially supported. I asked that my message is forwarded to a higher level of 
support or a manager/supervisor. Given by the guys English it is obvious that 
he probably sits in some call/response centre in India or the Philippines and I 
am curious as to whether I get a reply from somebody else now or if it ends 
here.

I can only encourage all who own a Neato and all who are interested as well as 
all who simply like to support something which will benefit all in the long run 
to take a few minutes and write their request to make the Neato app more 
accessible. If Neato suddenly receives 20 or 30 or 50 requests they maybe take 
it more seriously than if they receive 2 or 3. Below is the email address and 
toll free phone number for the US, for those who use social media like Twitter 
and Facebook more than I do it probably is also a good idea to post there. I 
think this can be effective since posts and replies can be seen by everybody so 
an unhelpful reply like the email above is probably not a good thing for any 
company. Here now the info:

Customer care email:
customerc...@neatorobotics.com
Toll Free: +1-877-296-3286

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: iDENTIFI APP

[Wendy Alling]

Hello all, I just got this app. I took a picture and it described it well. 
Where is the picture I took? Does it save them? I want the picture. I can't 
find it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Portia Scott  wrote:
> 
> Wait! It actually read half of the computer screen? It didn't garble
> it at all? I've used Talking Goggles before, and so has my friend
> Michelle, but it always garbled what it read. So if this reads text
> with no garble at all whatsoever, then this app is a winner.
> 
>> On 12/1/16, Rajmund  wrote:
>> Hello Sieghard,
>> Please, point TAPTAPSEE against an opened computer screen, and point
>> identifi, and report back your results? TAPTAPSEE told me it was an opened
>> laptop lid. Identifi pretty much scanned, and read half of the screen to me,
>> which matched with what NVDA saw. Because of that, if we use speech on our
>> devices, but the one where the app is, this app can rescue us, just by
>> pointing it at a screen, changing it to text, and send off the image.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>> Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:40 pm
>> Subject: RE: iDENTIFI APP
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Try it with Tap Tap See, you may find you get the same or a very similar
>>> result. Everything I tried whether it was taking a picture of a product or
>>> letting it look at pictures in my camera roll came back similarly with Tap
>>> Tap See. I am not trying to put down iDentifi, I think this young man did
>>> a great job, but I am just pointing out that Tap Tap See also does a
>>> pretty good job.
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Greg Wocher
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 3:58 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I was also really impressed with this app. I took a picture of my sons
>>> hand holding his XBox controller and the app said:
>>> Male hand holding a gold XBox360 wireless controller.
>>> That absolutely amazed my Son and I.
>>> Regards,
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/1/2016 6:34 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
>>> Hello, I just played with the Identifi App with all kinds of various
>>> pictures, either ones I just took or, in my photo Camera Roll.  I am
>>> absolutely totally impressed.  I must of taken and picked photos about 15
>>> times and 100% accuracy.  I also changed the settings to read text and it
>>> read me all the text 100% again.  Now, I have Tap Tap See and it also
>>> works quite well but, I seem to get more details withIdentifi.  I also
>>> have the K N F Reader and get better results with IdentifiBut as far
>>> as that goes, I am probably the cause of not having the best settings with
>>> N F Reader.  This 18 year old individual is absolutely great!!!  Andy and
>>> Shubert
>>> Andrew J. LaPointe
>>> Co-Chairman
>>> Salem Commission on Disabilities
>>> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>>> 34 Raymond Ave.
>>> Salem, MA. 01970
>>> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: iDENTIFI APP

[Portia Scott]

Wait! It actually read half of the computer screen? It didn't garble
it at all? I've used Talking Goggles before, and so has my friend
Michelle, but it always garbled what it read. So if this reads text
with no garble at all whatsoever, then this app is a winner.

On 12/1/16, Rajmund  wrote:
> Hello Sieghard,
> Please, point TAPTAPSEE against an opened computer screen, and point
> identifi, and report back your results? TAPTAPSEE told me it was an opened
> laptop lid. Identifi pretty much scanned, and read half of the screen to me,
> which matched with what NVDA saw. Because of that, if we use speech on our
> devices, but the one where the app is, this app can rescue us, just by
> pointing it at a screen, changing it to text, and send off the image.
>
>
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:40 pm
> Subject: RE: iDENTIFI APP
>
>>
>>
>> Try it with Tap Tap See, you may find you get the same or a very similar
>> result. Everything I tried whether it was taking a picture of a product or
>> letting it look at pictures in my camera roll came back similarly with Tap
>> Tap See. I am not trying to put down iDentifi, I think this young man did
>> a great job, but I am just pointing out that Tap Tap See also does a
>> pretty good job.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Greg Wocher
>> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 3:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP
>>
>> Hello,
>> I was also really impressed with this app. I took a picture of my sons
>> hand holding his XBox controller and the app said:
>> Male hand holding a gold XBox360 wireless controller.
>> That absolutely amazed my Son and I.
>> Regards,
>> Greg Wocher
>>
>>
>> On 12/1/2016 6:34 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
>> Hello, I just played with the Identifi App with all kinds of various
>> pictures, either ones I just took or, in my photo Camera Roll.  I am
>> absolutely totally impressed.  I must of taken and picked photos about 15
>> times and 100% accuracy.  I also changed the settings to read text and it
>> read me all the text 100% again.  Now, I have Tap Tap See and it also
>> works quite well but, I seem to get more details withIdentifi.  I also
>> have the K N F Reader and get better results with IdentifiBut as far
>> as that goes, I am probably the cause of not having the best settings with
>> N F Reader.  This 18 year old individual is absolutely great!!!  Andy and
>> Shubert
>> Andrew J. LaPointe
>> Co-Chairman
>> Salem Commission on Disabilities
>> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>> 34 Raymond Ave.
>> Salem, MA. 01970
>> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: iDENTIFI APP

[Rajmund]

Hello Sieghard, 
Please, point TAPTAPSEE against an opened computer screen, and point identifi, 
and report back your results? TAPTAPSEE told me it was an opened laptop lid. 
Identifi pretty much scanned, and read half of the screen to me, which matched 
with what NVDA saw. Because of that, if we use speech on our devices, but the 
one where the app is, this app can rescue us, just by pointing it at a screen, 
changing it to text, and send off the image. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:40 pm
Subject: RE: iDENTIFI APP

>
>
> Try it with Tap Tap See, you may find you get the same or a very similar 
> result. Everything I tried whether it was taking a picture of a product or 
> letting it look at pictures in my camera roll came back similarly with Tap 
> Tap See. I am not trying to put down iDentifi, I think this young man did a 
> great job, but I am just pointing out that Tap Tap See also does a pretty 
> good job.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Greg Wocher
> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 3:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP
>  
> Hello,
> I was also really impressed with this app. I took a picture of my sons hand 
> holding his XBox controller and the app said:
> Male hand holding a gold XBox360 wireless controller.
> That absolutely amazed my Son and I. 
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>  
>  
> On 12/1/2016 6:34 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
> Hello, I just played with the Identifi App with all kinds of various 
> pictures, either ones I just took or, in my photo Camera Roll.  I am 
> absolutely totally impressed.  I must of taken and picked photos about 15 
> times and 100% accuracy.  I also changed the settings to read text and it 
> read me all the text 100% again.  Now, I have Tap Tap See and it also works 
> quite well but, I seem to get more details withIdentifi.  I also have the K N 
> F Reader and get better results with IdentifiBut as far as that goes, I 
> am probably the cause of not having the best settings with N F Reader.  This 
> 18 year old individual is absolutely great!!!  Andy and Shubert
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Co-Chairman
> Salem Commission on Disabilities
> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: comparing tap tap see with identifi

[Portia Scott]

When I get a new iPhone, whether it's an iPhone 5s or whatever is out
by the time my mother lets me get a new one -- since I am on her plan
at T-Mobile, I will have to download this app. I'm horrible at taking
pictures as well, hahaha.

Portia.

On 12/1/16, jazzyjennifer  wrote:
> yeahi am loqzey at taking pitures too my self, i am going to download
> this app my self, and see witch one i may like better.
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 10:08 PM, pattigj1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Well believe me I am lousy at taking pictures,  just don’t have the
>> knack for it, so for this new app to tell me that my picture of my
>> dogs turned out was amazing to me.
>>
>> I never got that kind of result with tap tap see.
>>
>> Perhaps it was beginners luck, I don’t know, but I am sold, grin.
>>
>> Patti
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RE: air play from iPhone to appel tv

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Larry,

I don't have this service and can't get it as I am in Canada, but you can 
Airplay anything to your Apple TV so it shouldn't be a problem.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: air play from iPhone to appel tv

One additional question please.  Is it possible to play direct tv now from an 
iPhone to apple tv?  This would assist with my apple tv app problem.
Thanks much.

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My exchange with Neato Robotics customer care regarding accessibility

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello,

I don't currently own a Neato robotic vacuum, but I'm interested and of course 
was not optimistic when I read recently that accessibility of the Neato app has 
taken a step backwards in recent updates. This makes me wonder if they decide 
to release an update in a month or in 2 or next year which will make the app 
completely inaccessible. Then I spent several hundred Dollars extra to get a 
connected vacuum for nothing. I decided to write to Neato via their website. I 
actually also called their support and explained to the person who answered 
what I was after. He was actually sympathetic and promised he would bring this 
up with management or his supervisor, but he als encouraged me to send in 
feedback via the website. In my message I explained about Voiceover and how 
many large companies like Apple, Google and others are putting significant 
efforts and resources towards accessibility but also that individual developers 
must do their part. I explained what I heard about the Neato app regarding 
accessibility and asked if Neato Robotics would not take a look at the 
resources that Apple makes available on their developer portal regarding 
accessibility guidelines and so on. The first reply I received totally missed 
the point and the customer service person asked if I was tryingt o control 
Neato with Alexa or voice commands. I wrote another email again describing what 
Voiceover is and does and below is the reply I received:

##- Please type your reply above this line -##
Your request (306672) has been updated. To add additional comments, reply to 
this email.
Dermot (Neato Robotics)
Dec 1, 14:11 UTC
Good Morning Mr Weizel .
I have read your mail and unfortunately at this time can I help you.
There may be a work around via Alexa.
This can be Purchased from Amazon
you can give voice commands to the Neato  via Alexa.
It is a similar to Siri,
There is a link to Amazons site.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201848700
You can give Alexa  Voice commands to clean cycles .

I hope this can be of assistance to you

Have a nice day
Dermot
Neato Robotics Customer Care

I just replied that this message is not at all helpful and that I am not 
willing to accept it as is. I told the guy that just because I am blind I 
should not be expected to spend another $180 on top of an already expensive 
product just so I can use said product. Furthermore I told him that I am in 
Canada and Amazon Canada does not even offer the Echo here and it is not 
officially supported. I asked that my message is forwarded to a higher level of 
support or a manager/supervisor. Given by the guys English it is obvious that 
he probably sits in some call/response centre in India or the Philippines and I 
am curious as to whether I get a reply from somebody else now or if it ends 
here.

I can only encourage all who own a Neato and all who are interested as well as 
all who simply like to support something which will benefit all in the long run 
to take a few minutes and write their request to make the Neato app more 
accessible. If Neato suddenly receives 20 or 30 or 50 requests they maybe take 
it more seriously than if they receive 2 or 3. Below is the email address and 
toll free phone number for the US, for those who use social media like Twitter 
and Facebook more than I do it probably is also a good idea to post there. I 
think this can be effective since posts and replies can be seen by everybody so 
an unhelpful reply like the email above is probably not a good thing for any 
company. Here now the info:

Customer care email:
customerc...@neatorobotics.com
Toll Free: +1-877-296-3286

Best regards,
Sieghard

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air play from iPhone to appel tv

[Larry McCreary]

One additional question please.  Is it possible to play direct tv now from an 
iPhone to apple tv?  This would assist with my apple tv app problem.
Thanks much.

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playing channels on apple tv app

[Larry McCreary]

Hello,
I am continuing to have problems playing channels on the apple tv app.  I tried 
the suggestion to click on the unlabeled button and then clicking again but I 
continue to get the error message.
If anyone has played the channels on this app I would appreciate help.  Thanks 
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RE: identfi

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You probably just don't wait long enough, I didn't have to swipe around a 
single time last night and I probably tested it about a dozen times on photos 
from my camera roll and pictures I took, it always automatically announced the 
description when it was ready. I assume how fast this happens may have to do 
with your internet speed and maybe a bit with how fast your phone is, but it 
typically took 10 to 20 seconds and once or twice maybe a bit longer.

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brian albriton
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 8:23 AM
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Subject: Re: identfi

I've  noticed that the app doesn't speak the description till I start swiping 
through the screen. 

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:14 AM, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
> 
> When you open the app, double tap on the button to select photo. On 
> the next screen, double tap the all photos button. You will then get a 
> list of the pictures on your phone. Double tap to choose the one you 
> want described. The app will say loading then pause before telling you 
> about the photo you selected.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
>> On 12/1/16, pattigj1...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> How do you get it to tell you about the photos on your camera roll, 
>> do you have to double tap on the image, mine just says portrait mode or 
>> selfie.
>> 
>> Patti
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Re: Direct tv Now Locked my Phone

[alia robinson]

I did all that, my sighted husband did all that, trust me it wasn’t  that my 
volume was lowered. something was stopping my audio from routing to external; 
it was even grayed out in the audio settings in accessibility. it was bizarre. 

Alia
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> Hi Alia,
> 
> If volume drops to 0 you can get it back relatively easily if you follow a 
> few steps. If you still can use headset then it's even easier. Just use the 
> headset and make sure the phone is unlocked and you are at the top of your 
> home screen. Now unplug the headset and flick up or down with two fingers, 
> this will start Voiceover reading continuously. Now press the volume button 
> repeatedly, it's important to press it at least 5 or 6 times and not to press 
> and hold it. At that point you will start hearing Voiceover again.
> Regards,
> Sieghard

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RE: Direct tv Now Locked my Phone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alia,

If volume drops to 0 you can get it back relatively easily if you follow a few 
steps. If you still can use headset then it's even easier. Just use the headset 
and make sure the phone is unlocked and you are at the top of your home screen. 
Now unplug the headset and flick up or down with two fingers, this will start 
Voiceover reading continuously. Now press the volume button repeatedly, it's 
important to press it at least 5 or 6 times and not to press and hold it. At 
that point you will start hearing Voiceover again.

Regards,
Sieghard

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alia robinson
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 3:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Direct tv Now Locked my Phone

Mine did this yesterday. I knew vo was on, but it wouldn’t read. it also 
wouldn’t play music. all I can figure is it was no longer routing audio for 
this to external b/c headphones,  both wired and bluetooth worked fine.  
although siri worked, and vo worked in a siri screen. I had to fully factory 
reset my phone. It was awful. 

Alia
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 9:31 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
>  
> I was trying to register for directtvnow on my phone. It looked like I was 
> finally signed in to the app. My phone is totally locked up at this point. I 
> have a 6s+. I tried doing a reset holding down the home and power button. The 
> best I get is siri indicating vo is already on. I hear no clicks when moving 
> my finger on the screen and no vo reading anything at all. Any suggestions? 

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direct TV now community form

[Kliphton Miller]

Upon looking for a customer service number, I came across a community.  It 
seems blind people aren’t the only ones upset with the service.  Find it here
https://forums.att.com/t5/Devices-Troubleshooting/ct-p/DIRECTV_NOW_Troubleshooting
 

I never found a number, but there is a live chat.

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RE: iDENTIFI APP

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Try it with Tap Tap See, you may find you get the same or a very similar 
result. Everything I tried whether it was taking a picture of a product or 
letting it look at pictures in my camera roll came back similarly with Tap Tap 
See. I am not trying to put down iDentifi, I think this young man did a great 
job, but I am just pointing out that Tap Tap See also does a pretty good job.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDENTIFI APP


Hello,

I was also really impressed with this app. I took a picture of my sons hand 
holding his XBox controller and the app said:

Male hand holding a gold XBox360 wireless controller.

That absolutely amazed my Son and I.

Regards,

Greg Wocher



On 12/1/2016 6:34 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
Hello, I just played with the Identifi App with all kinds of various pictures, 
either ones I just took or, in my photo Camera Roll.  I am absolutely totally 
impressed.  I must of taken and picked photos about 15 times and 100% accuracy. 
 I also changed the settings to read text and it read me all the text 100% 
again.  Now, I have Tap Tap See and it also works quite well but, I seem to get 
more details withIdentifi.  I also have the K N F Reader and get better results 
with IdentifiBut as far as that goes, I am probably the cause of not having 
the best settings with N F Reader.  This 18 year old individual is absolutely 
great!!!  Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Richard]

Hi Evan,
Like you, Iam not having the greatest experience with this app.
Comparing it to other apps I use, this one has plenty of room for 
improvement.

Rick
- Original Message - 
From: "Evan Reese" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee


Clearly I am going to have to figure out why I’m having trouble getting good 
results with this app. It seems to be working great for the vast majority of 
you.
Evan

From: Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

I only can say; WOW!

Really this app is great, the level of details is amazing, and in my case 
this app works faster than taptap see.

Great!





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of jazzyjennifer
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee



i will have to try identity



On 11/30/2016 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
  While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details 
that TapTapSee did not.
  It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the 
subtle differences are nice to know.
  One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
  TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
  iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear 
basket with a black and white box by it.
  The box was a small bar of soap.
  Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
  I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

  I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student 
on his own.
  So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try 
TapTapSee, then CamFind.
  But, to each to his/her own.
  Richard



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Re: Direct tv Now Locked my Phone

[Mary Otten]

It just Lord your volume all the way to zero. You just have to hit the up 
volume key a bunch of times. It seems to me that it only does this upon initial 
use, although I'm not sure. It didn't do it on my iPad.
Mary


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> On Dec 1, 2016, at 3:41 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> Mine did this yesterday. I knew vo was on, but it wouldn’t read. it also 
> wouldn’t play music. all I can figure is it was no longer routing audio for 
> this to external b/c headphones,  both wired and bluetooth worked fine.  
> although siri worked, and vo worked in a siri screen. I had to fully factory 
> reset my phone. It was awful. 
> 
> Alia
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 9:31 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone, 
>> 
>> I was trying to register for directtvnow on my phone. It looked like I was 
>> finally signed in to the app. My phone is totally locked up at this point. I 
>> have a 6s+. I tried doing a reset holding down the home and power button. 
>> The best I get is siri indicating vo is already on. I hear no clicks when 
>> moving my finger on the screen and no vo reading anything at all. Any 
>> suggestions? 
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Re: Directtv.now

[William James]

This offer is for the 32 GB Apple TV for. We already have the 64 GB Apple TV 
for, so we did not go for that.

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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> No, the appleTV4 retails at 150 bucks, after tax for the 3 months you are 
> paying about 114 bucks, so you are saving a few dollars.
>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think the Apple TV itself retails for close to the same as the 3 months 
>>> anyways, but I assume you need to decide on this before you decide to take 
>>> the trial? How does one deal with the captcha on the iPhone? 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Mary Otten
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Directtv.now
>>> 
>>> You can sign up using Safari on your iPhone. Just be aware that a lot of 
>>> the things that are "clickable" are not noted as controls presumably 
>>> because they're not marked as such in the normal HTML way. So you have to 
>>> be a little bit creative and guessing what you're supposed to double tap 
>>> on. Shame on AT for their crappy excess ability, but you can do it. If 
>>> you sign up, then they offer you the chance to get the Apple TV if you want 
>>> to sign up for three months. All this is doable, although not in a 
>>> straightforward fully accessible way.
>>> 
>>> Sent you prepay for those three months, and you cannot get a refund, that 
>>> is you cannot cancel and get your money back, if you try it and don't like 
>>> it. I assume that is because you will have been sent the AppleTV.
>>>  from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:
 
 I don't have an Apple TV and was thinking about getting one through this 
 offer. I don't yet have Windows 8 either, so how can I sign up with this 
 offer?
 Would it be worth getting as far as accessibility goes?
  
> - Original Message -
> From: Kliphton Miller
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Directtv.now
> 
> We will be discussing this in a weekly apple conference that I host.  
> Info is below.  But today is the direct TV now app. 
> Come join our everything apple discussion.  This is a conference held 
> every Wednesday at 3:30PM Eastern.  Hosted by Matt Vollbrecht and Kliph 
> Miller.  In this conference call we discuss everything apple.  New 
> devices, features, accessibility, and up coming events. We hold this 
> meeting in a app called “Zoom.  Download it here
> https://appsto.re/us/BjWKG.i
> 
> At this time, the free version of the zoom app only allows 50 
> participants, so it is first come first serve.  All questions and 
> comments are heard just keep it civil.
> to join this conference, click the following link
> 
> https://zoom.us/j/652703259
> 
> 
> 
> As long as you have installed xoom, you will be in the conference.  If 
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> 
> Come and enjoy!
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> 
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Hope Paulos  wrote:
>> 
>> I am also trying the free seven day trial for DirecTV now. I cannot seem 
>> to figure out how to add channels to my favorites, so that I can access 
>> them frequently. The guide seems to work for me, and the search feature 
>> does as well. Can someone tell me how to access the networks, on the 
>> bottom right of the screen, there is a subscribe button, a show all 
>> button, and an unsubscribe button. How do I use these?
>> 
>> Hope Paulos
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Kliphton Miller  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> down load it here
>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/directv-now/id1136238277?mt=8
>>> 
 On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:
 
 Linda, I expect that one will be able to download the app to their 
 Apple TV.
  
 Fred
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 4:02 PM
> Subject: Directtv.now
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> I understand about watching direct tv on mobile devices. Is there a 
> way to watch on either a regular or smart tv? 
> Thank you, 
> Lynda 
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Re: identfi

[brian albriton]

I've  noticed that the app doesn't speak the description till I start swiping 
through the screen. 

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:14 AM, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
> 
> When you open the app, double tap on the button to select photo. On
> the next screen, double tap the all photos button. You will then get a
> list of the pictures on your phone. Double tap to choose the one you
> want described. The app will say loading then pause before telling you
> about the photo you selected.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
>> On 12/1/16, pattigj1...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> How do you get it to tell you about the photos on your camera roll, do you
>> have to double tap on the image, mine just says portrait mode or selfie.
>> 
>> Patti
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RE: iPhone as external drive on PC, was: How can I change my apple ID without loosing my purchased items?

[Cris Ali]

Thanks Sieghard,
You have resolved the mystery. It never occurred to me to turn off photos in 
iCloud.
Thanks again man.
Regards,
Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone as external drive on PC, was: How can I change my apple ID 
without loosing my purchased items?

Hi Chris,

If you want to see your iPhone as a drive on your PC and copy pictures this way 
you have to turn off iCloud Photo Library in Settings > iCloud.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How can I change my apple ID without loosing my purchased items?

Thanks folks,
Your suggestion and advice was very helpful.  I changed my apple ID email 
address and things seem to be normal.
I have another question though, In iOS nine and before, I used to be able to 
access parts of my iPhone as an external drive when I connect it to PC  for 
instance, I used to have access to the photos and videos.  Now in iOS ten, I 
cannot see my iPhone listed as one of the drives when I connect my phone to the 
computer.  Therefore, I no longer have direct simple access to the photos and 
videos as I did in the past.  Is there a setting to make my phone become 
visible again when connected to my computer?

Cheers,
Cris

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How can I change my apple ID without loosing my purchased items?

Hi Chris,

As others have pointed out it is no problem to change your Apple Id. 
Essentially your Apple Id is whatever email address you used when you set it 
up. The only time it would be a problem is if you absolutely cannot get back 
into your old account. If you can log in then do what Pablo suggested, log in 
with your old email address and password, then go to where it says "Change my 
Apple Id" and register your new email address. I think you will get a 
confirmation email you have to acknowledge, but it's pretty self-explanatory 
once you get started.

Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How can I change my apple ID without loosing my purchased items?

Hello folks,
I want to change my apple id>  However, my understanding is that the apple Id 
is connected to the email address.  I no longer want to keep the same email 
address, which means I will have to change my apple Id.  The problem is that I 
am afraid if I log on to my iPhone and iPad using a new apple id would make me 
lose my purchased apps and books.  I have already invested several hundred 
dollars on these things and I do not wish to lose them, or lose access to 
updates.
Is there a way of changing apple id without causing such a mess?
I appreciate your suggestions>
Regards,

Cris.

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Re: identfi

[Kimber Gardner]

When you open the app, double tap on the button to select photo. On
the next screen, double tap the all photos button. You will then get a
list of the pictures on your phone. Double tap to choose the one you
want described. The app will say loading then pause before telling you
about the photo you selected.

I hope this helps.

On 12/1/16, pattigj1...@gmail.com  wrote:
> How do you get it to tell you about the photos on your camera roll, do you
> have to double tap on the image, mine just says portrait mode or selfie.
>
> Patti
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Lelia Struve]

Evan, when you figure out what you're doing wrong will you let me know? Because 
I'm in the same boat as you. And it seems like you said that the majority of 
the crowd is impressed. So it must be us. Not them. LOL

Lelia 

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> On Dec 1, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Clearly I am going to have to figure out why I’m having trouble getting good 
> results with this app. It seems to be working great for the vast majority of 
> you.
> Evan
>  
> From: Pablo Cesar Morales
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 10:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
>  
> I only can say; WOW!
> Really this app is great, the level of details is amazing, and in my case 
> this app works faster than taptap see.
> Great!
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> jazzyjennifer
> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
>  
> i will have to try identity
> 
>  
> On 11/30/2016 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
> While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
> TapTapSee did not.
> It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
> differences are nice to know.
> One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
> shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
> TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
> iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
> with a black and white box by it.
> The box was a small bar of soap. 
> Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
> I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.
> 
> I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
> his own.
> So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
> then CamFind.
> But, to each to his/her own.
> Richard
> 
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Evan Reese]

Clearly I am going to have to figure out why I’m having trouble getting good 
results with this app. It seems to be working great for the vast majority of 
you.
Evan

From: Pablo Cesar Morales 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

I only can say; WOW!

Really this app is great, the level of details is amazing, and in my case this 
app works faster than taptap see.

Great!

 

 

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jazzyjennifer
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

 

i will have to try identity

 

On 11/30/2016 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
  While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
TapTapSee did not.
  It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
differences are nice to know.
  One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
  TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
  iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
with a black and white box by it.
  The box was a small bar of soap. 
  Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
  I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

  I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
his own.
  So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
then CamFind.
  But, to each to his/her own.
  Richard

   

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Re: Now having problems with the DirecTV now app

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,

I heeard through twitter that a lot of people are having problems with 
it so I don't think that it is just you.



Matthew




On 11/30/2016 09:12 PM, Terri Stimmel wrote:

Hello everybody,

Earlier I wrote to the list and said that I really liked the app, and 
it was working pretty well for me. And I explained a lot of my 
thoughts, and some issues I was having.
However, when I last used the app, it was about 12 o'clock. I played 
around with it for about 20 minutes. I thought it was cool. Well, just 
a little while ago, my friend tried to help me with that. Like I had 
mentioned I was going to ask her to do in my earlier posting. We have 
ran into a couple of issues.
We got it on A, when the app started up. That's just what it seemed 
to land on. I tried to switch the channel like I did before, and it 
wouldn't switch. Then came up a message saying that the service was 
temporary temporarily unavailable, and gave a code.
Then once I got it going again, I did a search, and I searched for 
discovery life. It found the channel, and it started to play the 
channel. I was trying to figure out if my friend could figure out how 
to add it to my favorites. But it was acting weird, not letting her 
really do anything, and then we got that same damn error message 
again! We tried a couple more times to mess around with it. I even 
signed out once, and signed back in. That seemed to help the issue 
that I had as well call it without telling me I had multiple streams 
going at once. I don't even know how that was possible. So I have 
given up for now. My friend will be back in the morning, and I asked 
her if we could try again. I am wondering if part of the problem is 
that maybe there are too many people trying to enjoy the app at once. 
I don't really know if that is the case, but I guess I will find out.
If anyone else has experienced problems like this, I would like to 
hear about it. If you figure out anyway to solve the issue, or if use, 
I would love to know about that as well. Thank you,


Terri

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RE: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

I only can say; WOW!

Really this app is great, the level of details is amazing, and in my case this 
app works faster than taptap see.

Great!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
jazzyjennifer
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

 

i will have to try identity

 

On 11/30/2016 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
with a black and white box by it.
The box was a small bar of soap. 
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
then CamFind.
But, to each to his/her own.
Richard

 

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Re: My thoughts regarding Directv Now

[William James]

Personally, I do not find the lack of the channel name being listed an issue. 
If I want to watch something, I will either search for it or scroll through the 
guide. I personally think that is a petty thing. Also, remember this is an 
initial release.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> The fact that the channels are not named is a huge huge issue. When you have 
> over 100 channels, you need to know what they are. What sighted person do you 
> know who would put up with that for one second?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, this is what I have managed to do. browse channels, add to favorite, 
>> and search for channels.  To browse the channels, go into guide, click on 
>> the all channels button, swipe once to the right, and then swipe down, as 
>> you swipe down, the channels will not be named, but you can get info on 
>> what’s currently on, and what is coming up.  If you find a channel you want 
>> to add to favorites, swipe left, it willl say highlight to favorites, click 
>> that and your done.  Voiceover won’t tell you its checked, but it is.  Once 
>> you are done, back out of the guide, and go back in, but this time swipe 
>> down to favorites and click there.  This will give you your favorites in 
>> alphabetical order.  Also, if you know what channel you want to watch, use 
>> the search, it is very helpful.  If anyone else wants to discuss this app, I 
>> can host a conference in the zoom app so we can exchange tricks and tips.  
>> Just let me know 
>> kliph...@icloud.com
>> HTH
>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Terri Stimmel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have read all the thread so far. I have some thoughts I would like to 
>>> share. I can't answer all the issues people are having. So I apologize 
>>> for this in advance. And these are just my thoughts, and opinions. So 
>>> please try not to take anything I say personally.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> First of all, I do not find this App terrible at all. I am quite happy 
>>> that I signed up, and I will most likely keep the service once my free 
>>> trial is over.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I do agree that a lot still needs to be worked out, in order for 
>>> this app to be more accessible, or even completely accessible.
>>> 
>>> I prefer this app over Sling TV. I honestly really disliked that app. 
>>> Yes it might have listed the channel numbers. But even though it did 
>>> this, you had to either watch the channel, until you learned what the 
>>> channel was, or you had to get sighted assistance. You couldn't do most 
>>> things with the app, such as add to favorites, or know what you were 
>>> watching.
>>> 
>>> Not to mention, their tech support was down right awful!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now as for the Directv Now app, I still have a lot to learn. But I am 
>>> looking forward to learning it. I know I will have frustrations along 
>>> the way. But I feel it's worth it to me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When the app came up after I was signed in, a channel came on right 
>>> away. When I swiped to the left, or the right, the channels would change.
>>> 
>>> If I would touch the track pad, the show would pause. At least, I think 
>>> I am remembering that correctly. I was able to swipe left and right, 
>>> where I then saw some options.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I somehow discovered that I could see what show I was watching, and how 
>>> long the show would still be on. When I swiped down, I could see some of 
>>> the shows that were coming up.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I haven't got a clue how I managed to do this. I wish I 
>>> could know what I did. But I know I will figure it out again. When I do, 
>>> I will write it down, so I can share it with all of you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I haven't tried to add any channels to my favorites. I want to do this, 
>>> most definitely! But I think I will wait until my sighted friend can 
>>> help me. This way, I can choose what I want, and make a list as to the 
>>> order they are in. At least until I get it memorized.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would like to know how I see the channels ordered by catagory, or 
>>> whatever that is, that someone mentioned.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also, someone mentioned there were networks listed at the bottom of the 
>>> screen.
>>> 
>>> How do I find these, and how do I figure out what the buttons are, that 
>>> were mentioned?
>>> 
>>> I guess just by trial and error, really.
>>> 
>>> Also, have they started the on-demand service yet? I would imagine this 
>>> might take some time. But when it happens, I really hope we can access 
>>> it in some way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I do agree that the website is horrible to use. The really need to fix 
>>> that, fast! The sooner the better, would be much appreciated!
>>> 
>>> I would like to know who to call for tech support. I want to see how 
>>> they react, and what they might say.
>>> 
>>> However, the only 

Re: Oops! need some help regarding Directv Now and Ipad

[William James]

That freaked me out as well. What I did was hit my home button, but my finger 
towards the top of the screen where the status bar is, and turned up the 
volume. I think they made a bad choice in muting your sound when the app comes 
up. Otherwise, I am loving it!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I understand what is likely wrong, from an earlier post I read.
> 
> 
> If my volume is turned down, how do I go about fixing this?
> 
> Once I get it fixed, how do I get back in to the App to set it to where 
> mute is off?
> 
> 
> I just wanted to see how it would work on my Ipad Mini, because I may 
> use it that way at times.
> 
> 
> When I get seri to come on, I tell her to turn on voiceover. She tells 
> me it's on. While she is telling me this, I attempt to turn the volume 
> up. But of course, it is up. For that anyway.
> 
> 
> I remember having this happen on my phone once, not too long ago. 
> Someone told me how to fix it, and it worked. But now I don't remember 
> what caused that issue in the first.
> 
> 
> Any help with this problem would be much appreciated. I can't believe I 
> did this. But I have to kind of laugh at myself.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: comparing tap tap see with identifi

[jazzyjennifer]

yeahi am loqzey at taking pitures too my self, i am going to download 
this app my self, and see witch one i may like better.



On 11/30/2016 10:08 PM, pattigj1...@gmail.com wrote:


Well believe me I am lousy at taking pictures,  just don’t have the 
knack for it, so for this new app to tell me that my picture of my 
dogs turned out was amazing to me.


I never got that kind of result with tap tap see.

Perhaps it was beginners luck, I don’t know, but I am sold, grin.

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identfi

[pattigj1206]

How do you get it to tell you about the photos on your camera roll, do you
have to double tap on the image, mine just says portrait mode or selfie.

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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[jazzyjennifer]

i will have to try identity


On 11/30/2016 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little 
details that TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the 
subtle differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash 
cloths, shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.

TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear 
basket with a black and white box by it.

The box was a small bar of soap.
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school 
student on his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try 
TapTapSee, then CamFind.

But, to each to his/her own.
Richard



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Re: I just found an old version ofVO!

[Kimber Gardner]

Thanks Sandy! I got it. I forgot how awesome this app was in its old
version. Now, at least for me, it is totally unusable.

On 12/1/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  wrote:
> hi,
> If you go to the App Store, then choose updates, and look at the top of the
> page, you will see "purchased" double tap that. I think, then you should see
> an option for "not on this phone".
>
> hope you find it! Sandy
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>> On 1 Dec 2016, at 13:34, Kimber Gardner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sandy,
>>
>> Where do you find the not on this phone option?
>>
>>> On 12/1/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>Does anyone remember the joy of first using Fleksy VO? Before it got
>>> all
>>> complicated and stressful? It was a superb app for fast input, using the
>>> "predictive keyboard.
>>>
>>>Well, and I don't know if this will be useful to anyone else, but I
>>> was
>>> in the app store, I selected updates and then "not on this phone". I
>>> found a
>>> load of apps that I have never installed on my iPhone 6, and there was
>>> Fleksy VO! I downloaded it and voilla! I now have the old version that
>>> works
>>> really well!! Jealous?
>>>
>>>For those of you who don't know about the old app: it is a marvelous
>>> way
>>> of using the onboard keyboard when you are not by a bluetooth one or
>>> can't
>>> use the net with Siri/Dictation. Not necessarily very good for writing
>>> such
>>> as for passwaords, but brilliant for general chat!!!
>>>
>>> Happy, Sandy!
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Re: I just found an old version ofVO!

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
If you go to the App Store, then choose updates, and look at the top of the 
page, you will see "purchased" double tap that. I think, then you should see an 
option for "not on this phone".

hope you find it! Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 1 Dec 2016, at 13:34, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
> 
> Sandy,
> 
> Where do you find the not on this phone option?
> 
>> On 12/1/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>>Does anyone remember the joy of first using Fleksy VO? Before it got all
>> complicated and stressful? It was a superb app for fast input, using the
>> "predictive keyboard.
>> 
>>Well, and I don't know if this will be useful to anyone else, but I was
>> in the app store, I selected updates and then "not on this phone". I found a
>> load of apps that I have never installed on my iPhone 6, and there was
>> Fleksy VO! I downloaded it and voilla! I now have the old version that works
>> really well!! Jealous?
>> 
>>For those of you who don't know about the old app: it is a marvelous way
>> of using the onboard keyboard when you are not by a bluetooth one or can't
>> use the net with Siri/Dictation. Not necessarily very good for writing such
>> as for passwaords, but brilliant for general chat!!!
>> 
>> Happy, Sandy!
>> 
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Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a new look at the world

[Rajmund]

Hello,
You need to click on use pid"ore.



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Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:57 am
Subject: Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a new 
look at the world

>
>
> Hi, list.
> 
> When the pictures taken, the app gives me several options but I am not sure 
> whether I am supposed to do anything here, should I leave it alone or make a 
> selection?
> Thanks!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > So far I have gotten some good results with this app.  When set to the text 
> > mode, it was able to identify a jar as being blackberry jam, and it was 
> > able to read the temperature display on the oven.
> > 
> > I agree that a repeat feature would be nice.  
> > 
> > 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Evan 
> > Reese [ment...@dslextreme.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:43 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a 
> > new look at the world
> > 
> > No cost.
> > I've done some testing on it, and for me at least, it doesn't work as well
> > as TapTapSee does.
> > Quite a number of times it just quit when I gave it a picture. I would wait
> > for a description, and the app just closed itself. I don't mean it stopped
> > running, just went into the background like when you hit the Home button.
> > It's also more complicated to operate. First you hit the Take Photo button,
> > which apparently opens the Camera app. Then, you have to hit a Take Picture
> > button. Finally, you have to hit a Use Picture button before it will try to
> > identify what the picture is. Then it says "loading" and you wait for a
> > description, which, as I said, most of the time I never got.
> > I took the same pictures of several things using Identifi and TapTapSee and
> > TapTapSee was more informative overall and worked every time, whereas, I did
> > get a couple of descriptions from Identifi, but the first one was
> > nonsensical, and I didn't quite understand all of the second one, which
> > leads me to another disadvantage of this app, you can't repeat anything. If
> > you miss the description, you have to go through the three step picture
> > taking process all over again. There are three settings in it, Text, where
> > it will try to read the text on something, High Accuracy Image, for a more
> > detailed description, and Low Accuracy for a more generic description. I
> > tried the Text setting with a jar of handcream and a bottle of something,
> > which I didn't know what it was. I got the nonsensical mumbling when I
> > snapped a picture of the jar of hand cream, and the app just quit when I
> > tried the bottle of whatever. Then I switched to High Accuracy and the app
> > still kept quitting. Then, I closed it and reopened it and took a picture of
> > a shelf of books with some papers lying on them. I got a description, which
> > I cannot recall and cannot get the app to repeat, and I did get a
> > description of a picture I took of some clothes lying on a chair, which was
> > about the same as TapTapSee gave me.
> > I think this app still needs a good bit of work to catch up to TapTapSee.
> > I'm still impressed with that apps abilities, and I've impressed many
> > sighted people with it as well. With its Text setting, Identifi has the
> > potential to do something TapTapSee currently doesn't, but it isn't there
> > yet for me.
> > I'm using an iPad Mini 4 with 128GB, so memory is not an issue.
> > Evan
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Casey
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:14 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a
> > new look at the world
> > 
> > Hi is there A cost for this App and if so how much?
> > 
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Oops! need some help regarding Directv Now and Ipad

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I understand what is likely wrong, from an earlier post I read.


If my volume is turned down, how do I go about fixing this?

Once I get it fixed, how do I get back in to the App to set it to where 
mute is off?


I just wanted to see how it would work on my Ipad Mini, because I may 
use it that way at times.


When I get seri to come on, I tell her to turn on voiceover. She tells 
me it's on. While she is telling me this, I attempt to turn the volume 
up. But of course, it is up. For that anyway.


I remember having this happen on my phone once, not too long ago. 
Someone told me how to fix it, and it worked. But now I don't remember 
what caused that issue in the first.


Any help with this problem would be much appreciated. I can't believe I 
did this. But I have to kind of laugh at myself.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[Rajmund]

Hello,
It doesn't keep them by default, so no need to delete.



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Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:19 am
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

>
>
> How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
> Julie
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> - Original Message - 
> From: Richard Turner 
> To: ViPone list 
> Sent: November 30, 2016 6:02 PM
> Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
> 
> 
> I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
> While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
> TapTapSee did not.
> It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
> differences are nice to know.
> One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
> shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
> TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
> iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
> with a black and white box by it.
> The box was a small bar of soap. 
> Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
> I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.
> 
> I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
> his own.
> So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
> then CamFind.
> But, to each to his/her own.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: I just found an old version ofVO!

[Kimber Gardner]

Sandy,

Where do you find the not on this phone option?

On 12/1/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone remember the joy of first using Fleksy VO? Before it got all
> complicated and stressful? It was a superb app for fast input, using the
> "predictive keyboard.
>
> Well, and I don't know if this will be useful to anyone else, but I was
> in the app store, I selected updates and then "not on this phone". I found a
> load of apps that I have never installed on my iPhone 6, and there was
> Fleksy VO! I downloaded it and voilla! I now have the old version that works
> really well!! Jealous?
>
> For those of you who don't know about the old app: it is a marvelous way
> of using the onboard keyboard when you are not by a bluetooth one or can't
> use the net with Siri/Dictation. Not necessarily very good for writing such
> as for passwaords, but brilliant for general chat!!!
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

[rajmund]

hi, the fact that it can scan text for free, is worth more than anything.

Sent from Thunderbird

On 01/12/2016 03:02 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details
that TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the
subtle differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths,
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear
basket with a black and white box by it.
The box was a small bar of soap.
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school
student on his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try
TapTapSee, then CamFind.
But, to each to his/her own.
Richard



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Re: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a new look at the world

[Kimber Gardner]

Be aware that the app is identify rather than identify. Check your
spelling to be sure there's an I at the end and not a y.

On 11/30/16, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> My first 6 attempts had more detailed description than any of the other
> identification apps like TapTapSee, AIPoly, etc.
> I am using my iPod Touch 6, but will be trying this on an iPad II, an iPhone
> 5s and 6s.
> It does take a while after you double tap on the use photo button. You can't
> just take a picture, you have to then double tap on the use photo button.
> Richard
>
>
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
>
>
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 2:45 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> > wrote:
>
> hi,
> I just downloaded this app and, while it seems totally accessible, having
> taken a shot, I get no response. Has anyone managed to make this work?
> Thanks, Sandy
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> On 30 Nov 2016, at 00:43, Andy Baracco
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Mike B.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:38 PM
> To: blindt...@groups.io
> Subject: [BlindTech] Toronto teen uses app to give visually-impaired a new
> look at the world
>
> Anmol Tukrel, a Grade 12 student at Holy Trinity who designed an app for
> blind people that describes things you take photos of with your iPhone or
> iPad. (Andrew
> Francis Wallace / Toronto Star) |
>
> A Toronto teen is hoping to change the lives of visually impaired people
> around the world with a new app that can identify virtually any object with
> the
> quick tap of an iPhone or iPad.
>
> Anmol Tukrel, a 17-year-old grade 12 student at Holy Trinity School in
> Richmond Hill, has always been fascinated with technology, particularly
> artificial
> intelligence. By the time he was in grade 7, he was already teaching
> himself
> how to code.
>
> Growing up, Tukrel often travelled to Pune, India to visit his aunt who
> worked at the K. K. Eye Institute, a hospital dedicated to providing eye
> care for
> people who can’t afford it. That experience, combined with an internship at
> a startup that uses computer vision to make products for advertising firms,
> led him to the perfect idea for a Canada-Wide Science Fair project.
>
> “I thought I could use computer vision for a more humanitarian use, and
> help
> visually impaired people,” he said.
>
> Tukrel’s iPhone app, iDentifi, allows users to take a photo of virtually
> any
> object, and then describes that item in great detail back to the user.
> People
> can also take photos of text and have it read back to them, in one of 27
> languages. Tukrel hopes it makes every day tasks — like picking out the can
> of
> pop you want — easier for people who are visually impaired.
>
> Jason Fayre, the head of accessibility and assistive technology at the
> Canadian National Institute for the Blind,
> tested out the app and, although there are similar apps on the market, gave
> it a rave review.
>
> “I’m extremely impressed, especially that it was written by a grade 12
> person,” he said. As a blind person himself, Fayre said iDentifi would make
> his
> life in easier when trying to identify things in the kitchen.
>
> “If I don’t know what a particular can of something is, being able to take
> a
> picture and have that information read back to me in great detail is very
> useful,” he said.
>
> It took Tukrel more than a year to develop the app, a process that involved
> months of painstaking research and enough code to fill a two-inch binder.
> He
> had initially planned on making his own convolutional neural network —
> computer speak for the data structure used to make the a program that
> recognizes
> objects. Eventually, he opted to integrate existing programs.
>
> Tukrel casually speaks about computer vision, convolutional neural
> networks,
> and application program interfaces as though he were a university graduate
> of computer science – not an about-to-graduate high schooler.
>
> “I’ve always liked technology, but as much as I like playing video games
> and
> using different apps, I wanted to be able to make them myself,” Tukrel
> said.
>
> For Tukrel, the work doesn’t stop now that the science fair is over.
>
> He has already met with various organizations to get feedback on the app,
> and plans on making tweaks to improve the user experience. So far, the app
> has
> been downloaded by several thousand people and is being used in 60
> countries. And, it’s free, something Tukrel doesn’t plan on changing.
>
> “I want people who are visually impaired to use it without thinking of the
> financial consequences of doing so,” he said. “We have such great
> technology
> and I think it’s important that everyone has access to it.”
>
>