Re: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9 to 5 Mac

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

I can see U.T.G.T.I being another of the accessibility nightmares, again.

I have trouble enough getting the bus to read my pass.

RobH.

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: ; "lenron brown" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9 to 
5 Mac


According to the article below, Apple may be ditching face ID in order
to get rid of the notch. The article does say that you may get both for
a while, but if Apple is serious about going to a flat slab of
uninterrupted glass, and they can't figure out under the screen face ID,
then that's when you might see face ID going away to be replaced by the
under the glass touch ID.



On 9/10/19 10:42 AM, lenron brown wrote:
> Face id isn't going anywhere, I don't get it what's wrong with having
> both if possible.
>
> On 9/10/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> These are just guesses and conjecture at this point and in my opinion there
>> is little point in engaging in them until we actually find out more
>> regarding this in-screen or under-screen Touch Id feature and if and when it
>> might be coming. Sure, Apple has introduced and abandoned features before,
>> 3D touch seems to be one of them, but I somehow doubt that Face Id is going
>> away considering that it is being used more and more everywhere and also
>> because Apple still seems to care about accessibility and there are
>> certainly people who can't use Touch Id because maybe they don't have hands
>> or arms etc.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed
>> Worrell
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 8:01 AM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9
>> to 5 Mac
>>
>> Hey Mark,
>>
>> I agree with the author of the article. I hope they don’t ax the FaceID
>> functions. I have found FaceID to be much more reliable then TouchID ever
>> was. Granted there are some minor trade offs with FaceID vs TouchID. At the
>> payment terminal TouchID can be a little quicker as you and I have discussed
>> off list. In everyday use I find the FaceID function to be much quicker and
>> much more friendly to use. There were many times with TouchID it simply
>> would not recognize my finger print and it would kick me to the keypad
>> anyway. This then defeated the purpose of TouchID to me… Maybe I’m the odd
>> man out here but I love FaceID and it’s simplicity.
>>
>> Just my thoughts on the FaceID vs TouchID argument.
>>
>> Ed W.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> As I am one of those insane people who is waiting for Apple to
>>> re-introduce Touch-ID back into the iPhone, before purchasing a new
>>> model, I found the following article interesting.
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>> In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead By Ben
>>> Lovejoy
>>>
>>> In-screen Touch ID could be appearing in iPhones as early as next
>>> year, according to a new report today. But while the current report
>>> suggests that both Touch ID and Face ID fans will be catered for, that
>>> may not remain the case for long.
>>>
>>> The debate between the respective fans of Touch ID and Face ID began
>>> when Apple launched the iPhone X, the first iPhone to be launched
>>> without the fingerprint reader since it made its debut on the iPhone 5 S
>>> in 2013.
>>>
>>> With the iPhone X launch, Apple seemed pretty clear that Face ID was
>>> the future of iPhone authentication. It is, says Apple, faster,
>>> easier, and more secure than Touch ID.
>>> Face ID reinvented the way we unlock, log in, and pay. Some of our
>>> most sophisticated technologies - the TrueDepth camera system, the
>>> Secure Enclave and the Neural Engine - make it the most secure facial
>>> authentication ever in a smart-phone. And even faster and easier to use.
>>>
>>> Close family members aside, Apple says that Face ID is 20 times more
>>> secure than Touch ID.
>>> Every fingerprint is unique, so it's rare that even a small section of
>>> two separate fingerprints are alike enough to register as a match for
>>> Touch ID.
>>> The probability of this happening is 1 in 50,000 with a single,
>>> enrolled finger.
>>>
>>> The probability that a random person in the population could look at
>>> your iPhone or iPad Pro and unlock it using Face ID is approximately 1
>>> in 1 million with a single enrolled appearance.
>>>
>>> Most owners of iPhone X/XS and latest iPad Pro devices say they would
>>> never go back. That's certainly true for me.
>>>
>>> But while that appears to be the consensus view, it's not a universal
>>> one.
>>> There are owners of Face ID devices who say they find it less reliable
>>> than Touch ID, and there are owners of Touch ID devices who claim they
>>> won't upgrade until Touch ID is available on newer devices.
>>>
>>> Today's report says that Apple is aiming to please all of the people
>>> all of the t

Re: smart wifi instant pot

[Joe Orozco]

Am I to understand the Instant Pot cannot really be recommended to
blind users at this time? I understand the Bluetooth model was good,
but if it’s no longer being sold... Thanks for any clarification.

Joe


On 9/11/19, Cristobal Munoz  wrote:
> The Wi-Fi model only works with the instant pot recipes  app. The smart
> cooker app is for the Bluetooth model that is no longer sold. For what it’s
> worth, there was an update to the instant pot app yesterday. I have no idea
> whether accessibility was improved though.
>
>> On Sep 10, 2019, at 9:02 PM, Robert Wright 
>> wrote:
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>> What do you recommend? I saw the Smart cooker app but it did not find my
>> pressure cooker
>>
>>  **
>> Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
>> the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you
>> get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
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RE: apple keynote

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Except that the 6.1 iPhone XR or  now 11 is smaller physically than an iPhone 
8+, slightly larger than an 8, but smaller than an 8+

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple keynote


No iPhones as small as the iPhone 8 or 8 plus.
iPhone 8 was 4.7 inches diagonal, the 8 plus, 5.5 inches.
the iPhone xr 6.1 and the new iPhone 11 is also 6.1.
The iPhone 11 Pro is 5.8 or the pro Max is 6.5
It has been rumored that next year they may come out with an SE sized phone; 
but nothing official from Apple.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



On Sep 10, 2019, at 9:01 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
I would like to know that as well. I have an iPhone 8, and would like to stay 
with that form factor.

Andy

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Subject: RE: apple keynote


Did they come out with a new iphone the size of the apple SE?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 10:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple keynote

this year the innovation for blind end users was in iOS.  the big change in the 
phones themselves was in the camera and an enhanced Face ID.

Kelly  

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On 9/10/19, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi,

Yes, it happened earlier today.

Cheers,
Anna


On Sep 10, 2019, at 6:28 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan

wrote:

Just curious.  Did Apple have their usual sept. 10 announcements and
unvailings?  There’s been no chatter about it.
God bless!
Paula and Garçon

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RE: apple keynote

[Sieghard Weitzel]

They did and considering the 100+ messages which used to be posted to the 
Viphone list a few years ago, this list has declined a long way.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul and 
Paula Jordan
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 4:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple keynote

Just curious.  Did Apple have their usual sept. 10 announcements and 
unvailings?  There’s been no chatter about it.
God bless!
Paula and Garçon
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RE: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9 to 5 Mac

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As you say "according to the article", but as far as I could tell that article 
is pure guesswork


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 8:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; lenron brown 
Subject: Re: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9 to 
5 Mac

According to the article below, Apple may be ditching face ID in order to get 
rid of the notch. The article does say that you may get both for a while, but 
if Apple is serious about going to a flat slab of uninterrupted glass, and they 
can't figure out under the screen face ID, then that's when you might see face 
ID going away to be replaced by the under the glass touch ID.



On 9/10/19 10:42 AM, lenron brown wrote:
> Face id isn't going anywhere, I don't get it what's wrong with having 
> both if possible.
>
> On 9/10/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> These are just guesses and conjecture at this point and in my opinion 
>> there is little point in engaging in them until we actually find out 
>> more regarding this in-screen or under-screen Touch Id feature and if 
>> and when it might be coming. Sure, Apple has introduced and abandoned 
>> features before, 3D touch seems to be one of them, but I somehow 
>> doubt that Face Id is going away considering that it is being used 
>> more and more everywhere and also because Apple still seems to care 
>> about accessibility and there are certainly people who can't use 
>> Touch Id because maybe they don't have hands or arms etc.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 8:01 AM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step 
>> ahead, 9 to 5 Mac
>>
>> Hey Mark,
>>
>> I agree with the author of the article. I hope they don’t ax the 
>> FaceID functions. I have found FaceID to be much more reliable then 
>> TouchID ever was. Granted there are some minor trade offs with FaceID 
>> vs TouchID. At the payment terminal TouchID can be a little quicker 
>> as you and I have discussed off list. In everyday use I find the 
>> FaceID function to be much quicker and much more friendly to use. 
>> There were many times with TouchID it simply would not recognize my 
>> finger print and it would kick me to the keypad anyway. This then 
>> defeated the purpose of TouchID to me… Maybe I’m the odd man out here but I 
>> love FaceID and it’s simplicity.
>>
>> Just my thoughts on the FaceID vs TouchID argument.
>>
>> Ed W.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> As I am one of those insane people who is waiting for Apple to 
>>> re-introduce Touch-ID back into the iPhone, before purchasing a new 
>>> model, I found the following article interesting.
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>> In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead By Ben 
>>> Lovejoy
>>>
>>> In-screen Touch ID could be appearing in iPhones as early as next 
>>> year, according to a new report today. But while the current report 
>>> suggests that both Touch ID and Face ID fans will be catered for, 
>>> that may not remain the case for long.
>>>
>>> The debate between the respective fans of Touch ID and Face ID began 
>>> when Apple launched the iPhone X, the first iPhone to be launched 
>>> without the fingerprint reader since it made its debut on the iPhone 
>>> 5 S in 2013.
>>>
>>> With the iPhone X launch, Apple seemed pretty clear that Face ID was 
>>> the future of iPhone authentication. It is, says Apple, faster, 
>>> easier, and more secure than Touch ID.
>>> Face ID reinvented the way we unlock, log in, and pay. Some of our 
>>> most sophisticated technologies - the TrueDepth camera system, the 
>>> Secure Enclave and the Neural Engine - make it the most secure 
>>> facial authentication ever in a smart-phone. And even faster and easier to 
>>> use.
>>>
>>> Close family members aside, Apple says that Face ID is 20 times more 
>>> secure than Touch ID.
>>> Every fingerprint is unique, so it's rare that even a small section 
>>> of two separate fingerprints are alike enough to register as a match 
>>> for Touch ID.
>>> The probability of this happening is 1 in 50,000 with a single, 
>>> enrolled finger.
>>>
>>> The probability that a random person in the population could look at 
>>> your iPhone or iPad Pro and unlock it using Face ID is approximately 
>>> 1 in 1 million with a single enrolled appearance.
>>>
>>> Most owners of iPhone X/XS and latest iPad Pro devices say they 
>>> would never go back. That's certainly true for me.
>>>
>>> But while that appears to be the consensus view, it's not a 
>>> universal one.
>>> There are owners of Face ID devices who say they find it less 
>>> reliable than Touch ID, and there are owners of Touch ID devices who 
>>> claim they won't upgrade until Touch ID is available on newer devices.
>>>
>>> Today's report

RE: clearing memory

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Assistive Touch button/menu is not in Settings after you turn it on it is 
on your home screen and you do have to hunt for it, it is near the bottom 
right, though.
Anyhow, as I said, if your phone is acting sluggish a complete shutdown and 
restart should clear things up as well since it will also clear the memory.
If you still feel it is not right you can always try a hard reset.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: clearing memory

Hi Sieghard,
I really think something is wrong with these instructions that I got from the 
web! LOL!  The reason why I say this is because according to these 
instructions, I go to settings, general, accessibility, and turn on Assistive 
Touch, and then go back to general, and tap on the shutdown button, and I do 
all that just fine, but according to the instructions, it says to press and 
hold the assistive touch button, but I’ve searched the entire page for the 
assistive touch button under general, but it is not on that page!  LOL!  Either 
that, or I am losing my mind!  LOL!  If anyone has cleared the ram on their xr 
phone, please let me know how you did it.  I also can’t find the on-screen 
button rather I turn on the assistive touch or not.  A few weeks ago, I noticed 
my xr phone started acting a little sluggish, so I thought if I cleared the 
ram, it might work better.
Thank you for all your help.
Janet
,

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 11:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: clearing memory

Janet, I wouldn’t worry about it, just turn your phone off and back on maybe 
once a week and you’ll be fine.
But if you want to try this, the on-screen home button is the one which you can 
find after you tap on the Assistive Touch menu, this itself is a button which 
appears on the screen near the bottom right after you turn on assistive touch, 
you can also find this button, tap on hold on it and drag it wherever you want 
on the screen, e.g. you can drag it to the bottom in the middle so it appears 
approx.. in the same spot where the old physical home button on older phones 
used to be.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: clearing memory

Hi Sieghard and All,
I am a little confused about clearing ram on my xr phone.  I did several Google 
searches, and I came up with the exact same results as you are showing here.  I 
can follow most of the steps to clear xr iPhone, until I get to the last step, 
Tap on the Assistive Touch button and then press and hold on the on-screen Home 
button until your iPhone flashes and returns to the Home screen.  Do they mean 
the on-screen Home button  is the power on and off button? Am I supposed to go 
back to the Accessibility page to find the Assistive Touch button, and press it 
and hold it? Can someone please tell me how to work with this last step?
Thank you all!
Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2019 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: clearing memory

When I just tried it on my iPhone 8 I didn’t get the SIRI beep at all, after 
the tap to power off prompt appeared I pushed down and held down on the virtual 
home button and after maybe 8 or so seconds I got the lock screen with the 
prompt to enter my passcode, it did not simply go back to the home screen.

Doing a Google search for “How to clear memory on the iPhone”  resulted in a 
lot of articles, many older and referring to phones with a mechanical home 
button and apparently even the iPhone 7 which I believe had the first virtual 
home button still works this way. Anyways, I also found an article from 2018 
which explains how to do this on the iPhone 7 and older phones as well as the 
iPhone 8 and iPhone X and, I assume XR/XS/XS Max.
I tried the method described in the article on my iPhone 8 and the result was 
the same as pressing and holding down the virtual home button, I ended up on 
the lock screen where I had to enter my passcode, Touch Id at that point did 
not unlock my phone and focus did not return simply to the home screen. If 
anybody wants to try this on the iPhone X/XR/XS, here is the text of the 
article:

Speed Up iPhone: How to Clear RAM on iPhone to Make It Faster
By Conner Carey updated on 04/10/2018

How do you clear RAM on iPhone and what does clearing RAM do? Resetting RAM on 
your iPhone makes it perform faster. Memory on iPhone is about how many various 
activities are going on at once. Clearing RAM allows iPhone to clear out any 
processing it doesn’t need to currently do. When you clear RAM on your iPhone, 
nothing on the surface changes. But you will see and feel the difference when 
using your iPhone. This is one of the best wa

Re: apple keynote

[Richard Turner]

No iPhones as small as the iPhone 8 or 8 plus.
iPhone 8 was 4.7 inches diagonal, the 8 plus, 5.5 inches.
the iPhone xr 6.1 and the new iPhone 11 is also 6.1.
The iPhone 11 Pro is 5.8 or the pro Max is 6.5
It has been rumored that next year they may come out with an SE sized phone; 
but nothing official from Apple.


Richard

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I would like to know that as well. I have an iPhone 8, and would like to stay 
with that form factor.

Andy

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Yes, it happened earlier today.

Cheers,
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Re: apple keynote

[Keith Bierman]

Short answer NO

iPhone 11 . 5.94"x2.98
iPhone SE  4.87x2.31

Improved battery life and the much more powerful chip (more performance at
less power) probably has more long term impact than the better cameras
(although the better camera contributes to faster facial recognition).

Folks that aren't focused on picture taking probably want to hold off on
upgrading though. I *suspect* that later iOS releases might leverage that
extra processing power for things useful in assistive modes ... but they
didn't discuss anything in that area today.


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The Wi-Fi model only works with the instant pot recipes  app. The smart cooker 
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What do you recommend? I saw the Smart cooker app but it did not find my 
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Re: apple keynote

[Andy Baracco]

Well, I guess my iPhone 8 will serve for at least another year.

Andy

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  No new smaller iPhone this time. 



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Did they come out with a new iphone the size of the apple SE?

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Re: apple keynote

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I would like to know that as well. I have an iPhone 8, and would like to 
stay with that form factor.


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No new smaller iPhone this time.


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phones themselves was in the camera and an enhanced Face ID.

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On 9/10/19, Anna Dresner  wrote:
Hi,

Yes, it happened earlier today.

Cheers,
Anna


On Sep 10, 2019, at 6:28 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan

wrote:

Just curious.  Did Apple have their usual sept. 10 announcements and
unvailings?  There’s been no chatter about it.
God bless!
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RE: apple keynote

[khevener]

Did they come out with a new iphone the size of the apple SE?

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this year the innovation for blind end users was in iOS.  the big change in the 
phones themselves was in the camera and an enhanced Face ID.

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On 9/10/19, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi,
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> Yes, it happened earlier today.
>
> Cheers,
> Anna
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>> 
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>>
>> Just curious.  Did Apple have their usual sept. 10 announcements and 
>> unvailings?  There’s been no chatter about it.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and Garçon
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Re: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9 to 5 Mac

[Christopher Chaltain]

According to the article below, Apple may be ditching face ID in order 
to get rid of the notch. The article does say that you may get both for 
a while, but if Apple is serious about going to a flat slab of 
uninterrupted glass, and they can't figure out under the screen face ID, 
then that's when you might see face ID going away to be replaced by the 
under the glass touch ID.




On 9/10/19 10:42 AM, lenron brown wrote:

Face id isn't going anywhere, I don't get it what's wrong with having
both if possible.

On 9/10/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

These are just guesses and conjecture at this point and in my opinion there
is little point in engaging in them until we actually find out more
regarding this in-screen or under-screen Touch Id feature and if and when it
might be coming. Sure, Apple has introduced and abandoned features before,
3D touch seems to be one of them, but I somehow doubt that Face Id is going
away considering that it is being used more and more everywhere and also
because Apple still seems to care about accessibility and there are
certainly people who can't use Touch Id because maybe they don't have hands
or arms etc.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 8:01 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9
to 5 Mac

Hey Mark,

I agree with the author of the article. I hope they don’t ax the FaceID
functions. I have found FaceID to be much more reliable then TouchID ever
was. Granted there are some minor trade offs with FaceID vs TouchID. At the
payment terminal TouchID can be a little quicker as you and I have discussed
off list. In everyday use I find the FaceID function to be much quicker and
much more friendly to use. There were many times with TouchID it simply
would not recognize my finger print and it would kick me to the keypad
anyway. This then defeated the purpose of TouchID to me… Maybe I’m the odd
man out here but I love FaceID and it’s simplicity.

Just my thoughts on the FaceID vs TouchID argument.

Ed W.




On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

As I am one of those insane people who is waiting for Apple to
re-introduce Touch-ID back into the iPhone, before purchasing a new
model, I found the following article interesting.

Mark.

In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead By Ben
Lovejoy

In-screen Touch ID could be appearing in iPhones as early as next
year, according to a new report today. But while the current report
suggests that both Touch ID and Face ID fans will be catered for, that
may not remain the case for long.

The debate between the respective fans of Touch ID and Face ID began
when Apple launched the iPhone X, the first iPhone to be launched
without the fingerprint reader since it made its debut on the iPhone 5 S
in 2013.

With the iPhone X launch, Apple seemed pretty clear that Face ID was
the future of iPhone authentication. It is, says Apple, faster,
easier, and more secure than Touch ID.
Face ID reinvented the way we unlock, log in, and pay. Some of our
most sophisticated technologies - the TrueDepth camera system, the
Secure Enclave and the Neural Engine - make it the most secure facial
authentication ever in a smart-phone. And even faster and easier to use.

Close family members aside, Apple says that Face ID is 20 times more
secure than Touch ID.
Every fingerprint is unique, so it's rare that even a small section of
two separate fingerprints are alike enough to register as a match for
Touch ID.
The probability of this happening is 1 in 50,000 with a single,
enrolled finger.

The probability that a random person in the population could look at
your iPhone or iPad Pro and unlock it using Face ID is approximately 1
in 1 million with a single enrolled appearance.

Most owners of iPhone X/XS and latest iPad Pro devices say they would
never go back. That's certainly true for me.

But while that appears to be the consensus view, it's not a universal
one.
There are owners of Face ID devices who say they find it less reliable
than Touch ID, and there are owners of Touch ID devices who claim they
won't upgrade until Touch ID is available on newer devices.

Today's report says that Apple is aiming to please all of the people
all of the time, with plans to offer both forms of biometric
authentication in future iPhones, starting in either 2020 or 2021.
In-screen Touch ID would enable Apple to bring back Touch ID without the
need for a Home button.

Apple is apparently readying a new under-display integrated Touch ID
fingerprint sensor "as early as its 2020 iPhones" next fall, according
to a report today from Bloomberg. The report says it would be an
addition to the existing Face ID authentication and unlock system,
allowing users to authenticate with either fingerprint or face
biometrics [.]

Offering both Touch ID and Face ID would increase overall convenience
and speed of unlocki

Re: apple keynote

[Kelly Pierce]

this year the innovation for blind end users was in iOS.  the big
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ID.

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> Yes, it happened earlier today.
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> Anna
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Re: Phone Scam

[Jewel]

I would get a great kick out of having a friend as smart and quick-witted as 
that!  What a hoot!!!

 Jewel

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I have a girlfriend, and she got a call about that the police were on their 
way, that she was going 
to be arrested for income tax fraud. Before the caller could go on with any 
more, she said, "oh, 
what a relief. My lights were about to be turned off, I'm out of groceries, and 
about to get thrown 
out of here on the street. Now, I have somewhere to go, what a blessing!" Clunk 
went the caller's 
phone.

Best regards,

Carolyn


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Hi Andy:

I got a call from myself this morning also.  Didn't answer, but a bit later, I 
got a call.  Missed 
the caller I.D., but the message they left said my social security number was 
comprimised, or 
something like that.  The area code was 570, Pennsylvania.

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RE: clearing memory

[janet gross]

Hi Sieghard,
I really think something is wrong with these instructions that I got from the 
web! LOL!  The reason why I say this is because according to these 
instructions, I go to settings, general, accessibility, and turn on Assistive 
Touch, and then go back to general, and tap on the shutdown button, and I do 
all that just fine, but according to the instructions, it says to press and 
hold the assistive touch button, but I’ve searched the entire page for the 
assistive touch button under general, but it is not on that page!  LOL!  Either 
that, or I am losing my mind!  LOL!  If anyone has cleared the ram on their xr 
phone, please let me know how you did it.  I also can’t find the on-screen 
button rather I turn on the assistive touch or not.  A few weeks ago, I noticed 
my xr phone started acting a little sluggish, so I thought if I cleared the 
ram, it might work better.
Thank you for all your help.
Janet
,

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 11:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: clearing memory

Janet, I wouldn’t worry about it, just turn your phone off and back on maybe 
once a week and you’ll be fine.
But if you want to try this, the on-screen home button is the one which you can 
find after you tap on the Assistive Touch menu, this itself is a button which 
appears on the screen near the bottom right after you turn on assistive touch, 
you can also find this button, tap on hold on it and drag it wherever you want 
on the screen, e.g. you can drag it to the bottom in the middle so it appears 
approx.. in the same spot where the old physical home button on older phones 
used to be.


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gross
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: clearing memory

Hi Sieghard and All,
I am a little confused about clearing ram on my xr phone.  I did several Google 
searches, and I came up with the exact same results as you are showing here.  I 
can follow most of the steps to clear xr iPhone, until I get to the last step, 
Tap on the Assistive Touch button and then press and hold on the on-screen Home 
button until your iPhone flashes and returns to the Home screen.  Do they mean 
the on-screen Home button  is the power on and off button? Am I supposed to go 
back to the Accessibility page to find the Assistive Touch button, and press it 
and hold it? Can someone please tell me how to work with this last step?
Thank you all!
Janet
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2019 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: clearing memory

When I just tried it on my iPhone 8 I didn’t get the SIRI beep at all, after 
the tap to power off prompt appeared I pushed down and held down on the virtual 
home button and after maybe 8 or so seconds I got the lock screen with the 
prompt to enter my passcode, it did not simply go back to the home screen.

Doing a Google search for “How to clear memory on the iPhone”  resulted in a 
lot of articles, many older and referring to phones with a mechanical home 
button and apparently even the iPhone 7 which I believe had the first virtual 
home button still works this way. Anyways, I also found an article from 2018 
which explains how to do this on the iPhone 7 and older phones as well as the 
iPhone 8 and iPhone X and, I assume XR/XS/XS Max.
I tried the method described in the article on my iPhone 8 and the result was 
the same as pressing and holding down the virtual home button, I ended up on 
the lock screen where I had to enter my passcode, Touch Id at that point did 
not unlock my phone and focus did not return simply to the home screen. If 
anybody wants to try this on the iPhone X/XR/XS, here is the text of the 
article:

Speed Up iPhone: How to Clear RAM on iPhone to Make It Faster
By Conner Carey updated on 04/10/2018

How do you clear RAM on iPhone and what does clearing RAM do? Resetting RAM on 
your iPhone makes it perform faster. Memory on iPhone is about how many various 
activities are going on at once. Clearing RAM allows iPhone to clear out any 
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Re: apple keynote

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Yes, it happened earlier today.

Cheers,
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Windows 10 clipboard and the iPhone

[James Lockwood]

Rumor has it you’re supposed to be able to get stuff from your windows 10 
clipboard on your iPhone. Anyone get this to work and if so which app

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apple keynote

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Just curious.  Did Apple have their usual sept. 10 announcements and
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Re: Phone Scam

[Holly]

Carolyn:

How clever of your friend.  Hahahaha.


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RE: Phone Scam

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have a girlfriend, and she got a call about that the police were on their 
way, that she was going to be arrested for income tax fraud. Before the caller 
could go on with any more, she said, "oh, what a relief. My lights were about 
to be turned off, I'm out of groceries, and about to get thrown out of here on 
the street. Now, I have somewhere to go, what a blessing!" Clunk went the 
caller's phone. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Holly
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone Scam

Hi Andy:

I got a call from myself this morning also.  Didn't answer, but a bit later, I 
got a call.  Missed the caller I.D., but the message they left said my social 
security number was comprimised, or something like that.  The area code was 
570, Pennsylvania. 

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Making and Reading Comments in Google Docs

[kelby carlson]

How does one read a comment that someone has inserted into a Google Doc with VO 
on the iPhone? I mean comment balloons, like the ones that can be put in Word 
documents. I am notified where there is a comment but don't have a way to read 
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Re: Phone Scam

[Holly]

Hi Andy:

I got a call from myself this morning also.  Didn't answer, but a bit later, 
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Re: deleted folder on Dropbox

[Vicki W.]

I actually had to go a little deeper. I ended up on the computer, going so far 
as to the contact us under support and there was a link to my most recent 
events.

At that point, there were four links to restore all the folders and files from 
that folder. Just going to the normal deleted area only showed files, not 
folders. Since there were over 1100 files in this folder, that was no option 
for me!

I did have to do all of this through the computer, though, in case it ever 
happens to anyone else.

Vicki

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  Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 12:50 PM
  Subject: Re: deleted folder on Dropbox


  Hi Vicki,


  Probably the easiest thing to do is copy the folder on your computer to your 
desktop or somewhere where you can find it. Once your Internet service is back 
to normal, if the folder is deleted from Dropbox, copy it back.


  If that doesn't work, you can restore folders through the website. The last 
time I tried to restore a file, which was a few weeks ago, the process was not 
completely accessible, unfortunately. But with a bit of sighted help, you 
should be able to go to
  www.dropbox.com
  log in if you are asked to, and restore the folder.


  Good luck,
  Anna








On Sep 10, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


I accidentally deleted a major folder in Dropbox while using my phone. I 
can’t find a way to restore it on the phone.



It, at least so far, is still on my computers. I had trouble with my Cox 
service today, so maybe it hasn’t shown up on the computers yet.



I have two questions.



1.  How do I get it back on my phone?
2.  Why would it still show up on my computers and not on the phone,?



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Re: Phone Scam

[pegkane52]

That’s really weird Andy yesterday I got four calls one of them said it was my 
husbands name calling another one said it was calling from P and K Kane which 
is also when my husband calls from his cell phone the number the way it’s 
listed I got the same thing again calling from me or using my number very 
strange it was from Microsoft.
I’m glad I’m not the only one receiving these weird calls.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

> On Sep 10, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> This morning I got a call, and caller ID said it was my number.  I guess I 
> was calling myself.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 10:20 AM
> Subject: RE: Phone Scam
> 
> 
> Even the credit card scammers leave a Voice Mail.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Phone Scam
> 
> Legitimate businesses will leave a voicemail message if you don't answer.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone 
> 
> To: VIPhone 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 10:47 AM
> Subject: Re: Phone Scam
> 
> Hello everyone,
> My policy on all robo calls is to ignore them. I do not listen to them at 
> all, I hang up and then block the caller on my iPhone.
> No legitimate business or government agency uses robotic calls to contact 
> their customers. I always assume everything is a scam!
> I also never respond to any promotional emails, and I never open any email 
> that has an attachment... Even if I know the sender.
> 
> I also do not respond to any door to door solicitors.
> 
> I assume everyone is a scammer, and, as a result, I hace never been scammed.
> Always better to error on the side of caution.👍
> 
> Chuck
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RE: deleted folder on Dropbox

[Alan Lemly]

Vicki,

 

I don't think it is possible to restore deleted files or folders using the 
Dropbox app on your phone. Below are the steps I found for restoring deleted 
Dropbox files when I Googled it:

 

1.   Sign in to dropbox.com.

2.   Tap on the Files in the left sidebar.

3.   Click on Deleted files in the left sidebar.

4.   Locate the deleted file or folder you want to recover.

5.   Select Restore.

 

I believe you'll have to open Safari on your iPhone and sign into your Dropbox 
account there in order to do the above steps.

 

Good luck.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 1:25 PM
To: IPhone
Subject: deleted folder on Dropbox

 

I accidentally deleted a major folder in Dropbox while using my phone. I can’t 
find a way to restore it on the phone.

 

It, at least so far, is still on my computers. I had trouble with my Cox 
service today, so maybe it hasn’t shown up on the computers yet.

 

I have two questions.

 

1.  How do I get it back on my phone?

2.  Why would it still show up on my computers and not on the phone,?

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Re: deleted folder on Dropbox

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

Probably the easiest thing to do is copy the folder on your computer to your 
desktop or somewhere where you can find it. Once your Internet service is back 
to normal, if the folder is deleted from Dropbox, copy it back.

If that doesn't work, you can restore folders through the website. The last 
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completely accessible, unfortunately. But with a bit of sighted help, you 
should be able to go to
www.dropbox.com 
log in if you are asked to, and restore the folder.

Good luck,
Anna




> On Sep 10, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> I accidentally deleted a major folder in Dropbox while using my phone. I 
> can’t find a way to restore it on the phone.
> 
>  
> 
> It, at least so far, is still on my computers. I had trouble with my Cox 
> service today, so maybe it hasn’t shown up on the computers yet.
> 
>  
> 
> I have two questions.
> 
>  
> 
> 1.  How do I get it back on my phone?
> 2.  Why would it still show up on my computers and not on the phone,?
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Re: Phone Scam

[Andy Baracco]

This morning I got a call, and caller ID said it was my number.  I guess I 
was calling myself.


Andy

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From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: Phone Scam


Even the credit card scammers leave a Voice Mail.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Andy Baracco

Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone Scam

Legitimate businesses will leave a voicemail message if you don't answer.

Andy


- Original Message - 
From: 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone 

To: VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Phone Scam

Hello everyone,
My policy on all robo calls is to ignore them. I do not listen to them at 
all, I hang up and then block the caller on my iPhone.
No legitimate business or government agency uses robotic calls to contact 
their customers. I always assume everything is a scam!
I also never respond to any promotional emails, and I never open any email 
that has an attachment... Even if I know the sender.


I also do not respond to any door to door solicitors.

I assume everyone is a scammer, and, as a result, I hace never been scammed.
Always better to error on the side of caution.👍

Chuck




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deleted folder on Dropbox

[Vicki W.]

I accidentally deleted a major folder in Dropbox while using my phone. I can't 
find a way to restore it on the phone.

 

It, at least so far, is still on my computers. I had trouble with my Cox 
service today, so maybe it hasn't shown up on the computers yet.

 

I have two questions.

 

1.  How do I get it back on my phone?

2.  Why would it still show up on my computers and not on the phone,?

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RE: Audio ducking, was RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I was talking about Bluetooth directly in my hearing, not keyboard. I never 
thought I'd live to say this, but I don't want a keyboard with my iPhone. I had 
an RCA Galaxy Pro tablet with one, found it most clumsy. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Audio ducking, was RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to 
prompts.

In iOS 13 you can enter numbers during a call on a Bluetooth keyboard although 
for some reason it seems to work only with the number row on top of the 
keyboard and not with the numeric pad if you use a keyboard which has one. But 
I guess it is better than nothing. If you want to dial a number on the dialpad 
you can also use the number row on a Bluetooth keyboard and pressing enter will 
dial the call.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio ducking, was RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to 
prompts.

 

Thank you, Richard for such quick response.  I'd never thought much about that 
before.  I learn lots from being in this group.

 

Peace & Blessings,

Duane L. Steele

Phone (276) 730-5194


On Sep 10, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Audio Ducking lowers the volume of a program when VoiceOver is speaking.

If you are listening to music, and touch the screen, the music will dim 
a little to try to make it easier to hear what VoiceOver is saying.

So, in the case of trying to hear the numbers on a keypad when 
accessing a phone system like what many banks use, you have a better chance of 
hearing the numbers you are touching over the recorded message from the bank.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Duane Steele
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Audio ducking, was RE: hearing numbers punched, when 
listening to prompts.

 

Hello Friends,

 

Forgive my ignorance here.  But can somebody explain what Audio Ducking 
is, and the advantages and disadvantages of turning it on or off?  Thanks.

 

Peace & Blessings,

Duane L. Steele

Phone (276) 730-5194


On Sep 10, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Audio Ducking is under Settings, General, Accessibility, 
VoiceOver, Audio.

And, you can go into the Rotor Settings and add it to the rotor 
as there may be times when you do not want it on.

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Karen Poulakos
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

 

Where do you find audio ducking?

 

Karen P

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

 

Someone else had mentioned turning on audio ducking; which 
would help, but also add Volume to rotor, which will allow you to control the 
VO volume separately from the main volume. 

Then, turn the phone volume down with the side button, and VO 
volume up with the rotor to make it easier to here the numbers.

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not 

RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Audio Ducking is in VoiceOver, and then in Audio, I believe. I could find it, 
and I'm pretty sure that is where it is. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Karen Poulakos
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

Where do you find audio ducking?

 

Karen P

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

 

Someone else had mentioned turning on audio ducking; which would help, but also 
add Volume to rotor, which will allow you to control the VO volume separately 
from the main volume. 

Then, turn the phone volume down with the side button, and VO volume up with 
the rotor to make it easier to here the numbers.

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 





On Sep 10, 2019, at 1:35 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:

Hi,
I think this is a general problem. If you have earphones I find that 
the numbers spoken by voice over are more distinct for some reason. I can’t 
guarantee or explain why this is so, but it usually works for me.

Regards, Ian



On 10 Sep 2019, at 01:13, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
wrote:

 

On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a

call for confirmation of a medical appointment, I could

hardly hear the one and when I pressed it for the talking on

the tape, which would have started again, if I had not

punched something - same thing with pharmacy and other

situations, where a digit or digits have to be pressed,

while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can

enhance the sound of the touch pad? 

 

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

 

Carolyn

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RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Indeed, I found that to be a solver, the earphones, that is. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Ian Harrison
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Subject: Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

Hi,
I think this is a general problem. If you have earphones I find that the 
numbers spoken by voice over are more distinct for some reason. I can’t 
guarantee or explain why this is so, but it usually works for me.

Regards, Ian
> On 10 Sep 2019, at 01:13, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a call for 
> confirmation of a medical appointment, I could hardly hear the one and 
> when I pressed it for the talking on the tape, which would have 
> started again, if I had not punched something - same thing with 
> pharmacy and other situations, where a digit or digits have to be 
> pressed, while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can 
> enhance the sound of the touch pad?
> 
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
> 
> Carolyn
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> worry, if you worry, don't pray,
> 
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RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I do have hearing aids too, and, as I mentioned to Anna, my audiologist 
suggested that I leave my paired Bluetooth on all the time. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 3:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

This is one of the best reasons some of us still, even now,  require and get a 
phone with real keys.  The alternative could  be one of the tactile or brailled 
screen protectors with dots in the right place.

As you describe, and having 2 hearing aids which don't help any in this case, 
why I can't and don't deal with those on an iPhone.
Phone banking?   come back Nokia, all, almost all, is forgiven.

RobH, still has one.
- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 1:13 AM
Subject: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.


On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a
call for confirmation of a medical appointment, I could
hardly hear the one and when I pressed it for the talking on
the tape, which would have started again, if I had not
punched something - same thing with pharmacy and other
situations, where a digit or digits have to be pressed,
while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can
enhance the sound of the touch pad?

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

Carolyn
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RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Carolyn Arnold]

OK, I'll try that. Someone told me to turn it off for some reason some time 
back, and now I don't remember what the advantage would be. 

I did finally get a headset, which worked just fine, and I wonder if it would 
work as well with Bluetooth. My audiologist suggested that I just keep 
Bluetooth on all the time. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Anna Dresner
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:49 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

Hi,

I would suggest audio ducking so the voicemail system will turn down when you 
are trying to use VoiceOver to locate the numbers.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 9, 2019, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a call for 
> confirmation of a medical appointment, I could hardly hear the one and 
> when I pressed it for the talking on the tape, which would have 
> started again, if I had not punched something - same thing with 
> pharmacy and other situations, where a digit or digits have to be 
> pressed, while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can 
> enhance the sound of the touch pad?
> 
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
> 
> Carolyn
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RE: Phone Scam

[Carolyn Arnold]

Even the credit card scammers leave a Voice Mail. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone Scam

Legitimate businesses will leave a voicemail message if you don't answer.
 
Andy
 

- Original Message - 
From: 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone   
To: VIPhone   
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Phone Scam

Hello everyone,
My policy on all robo calls is to ignore them. I do not listen to them 
at all, I hang up and then block the caller on my iPhone.
No legitimate business or government agency uses robotic calls to 
contact their customers. I always assume everything is a scam!
I also never respond to any promotional emails, and I never open any 
email that has an attachment... Even if I know the sender.
 
I also do not respond to any door to door solicitors.

I assume everyone is a scammer, and, as a result, I hace never been 
scammed.
Always better to error on the side of caution.👍

Chuck 




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Re: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9 to 5 Mac

[lenron brown]

Face id isn't going anywhere, I don't get it what's wrong with having
both if possible.

On 9/10/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> These are just guesses and conjecture at this point and in my opinion there
> is little point in engaging in them until we actually find out more
> regarding this in-screen or under-screen Touch Id feature and if and when it
> might be coming. Sure, Apple has introduced and abandoned features before,
> 3D touch seems to be one of them, but I somehow doubt that Face Id is going
> away considering that it is being used more and more everywhere and also
> because Apple still seems to care about accessibility and there are
> certainly people who can't use Touch Id because maybe they don't have hands
> or arms etc.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed
> Worrell
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 8:01 AM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9
> to 5 Mac
>
> Hey Mark,
>
> I agree with the author of the article. I hope they don’t ax the FaceID
> functions. I have found FaceID to be much more reliable then TouchID ever
> was. Granted there are some minor trade offs with FaceID vs TouchID. At the
> payment terminal TouchID can be a little quicker as you and I have discussed
> off list. In everyday use I find the FaceID function to be much quicker and
> much more friendly to use. There were many times with TouchID it simply
> would not recognize my finger print and it would kick me to the keypad
> anyway. This then defeated the purpose of TouchID to me… Maybe I’m the odd
> man out here but I love FaceID and it’s simplicity.
>
> Just my thoughts on the FaceID vs TouchID argument.
>
> Ed W.
>
>
>
>> On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> As I am one of those insane people who is waiting for Apple to
>> re-introduce Touch-ID back into the iPhone, before purchasing a new
>> model, I found the following article interesting.
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>> In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead By Ben
>> Lovejoy
>>
>> In-screen Touch ID could be appearing in iPhones as early as next
>> year, according to a new report today. But while the current report
>> suggests that both Touch ID and Face ID fans will be catered for, that
>> may not remain the case for long.
>>
>> The debate between the respective fans of Touch ID and Face ID began
>> when Apple launched the iPhone X, the first iPhone to be launched
>> without the fingerprint reader since it made its debut on the iPhone 5 S
>> in 2013.
>>
>> With the iPhone X launch, Apple seemed pretty clear that Face ID was
>> the future of iPhone authentication. It is, says Apple, faster,
>> easier, and more secure than Touch ID.
>> Face ID reinvented the way we unlock, log in, and pay. Some of our
>> most sophisticated technologies - the TrueDepth camera system, the
>> Secure Enclave and the Neural Engine - make it the most secure facial
>> authentication ever in a smart-phone. And even faster and easier to use.
>>
>> Close family members aside, Apple says that Face ID is 20 times more
>> secure than Touch ID.
>> Every fingerprint is unique, so it's rare that even a small section of
>> two separate fingerprints are alike enough to register as a match for
>> Touch ID.
>> The probability of this happening is 1 in 50,000 with a single,
>> enrolled finger.
>>
>> The probability that a random person in the population could look at
>> your iPhone or iPad Pro and unlock it using Face ID is approximately 1
>> in 1 million with a single enrolled appearance.
>>
>> Most owners of iPhone X/XS and latest iPad Pro devices say they would
>> never go back. That's certainly true for me.
>>
>> But while that appears to be the consensus view, it's not a universal
>> one.
>> There are owners of Face ID devices who say they find it less reliable
>> than Touch ID, and there are owners of Touch ID devices who claim they
>> won't upgrade until Touch ID is available on newer devices.
>>
>> Today's report says that Apple is aiming to please all of the people
>> all of the time, with plans to offer both forms of biometric
>> authentication in future iPhones, starting in either 2020 or 2021.
>> In-screen Touch ID would enable Apple to bring back Touch ID without the
>> need for a Home button.
>>
>> Apple is apparently readying a new under-display integrated Touch ID
>> fingerprint sensor "as early as its 2020 iPhones" next fall, according
>> to a report today from Bloomberg. The report says it would be an
>> addition to the existing Face ID authentication and unlock system,
>> allowing users to authenticate with either fingerprint or face
>> biometrics [.]
>>
>> Offering both Touch ID and Face ID would increase overall convenience
>> and speed of unlocking the iPhone. A user would register their
>> fingerprints and facial signature, and the phone can unlock as soon as
>> either recognition succeeds. This means Touch ID can make u

RE: Audio ducking, was RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

In iOS 13 you can enter numbers during a call on a Bluetooth keyboard although 
for some reason it seems to work only with the number row on top of the 
keyboard and not with the numeric pad if you use a keyboard which has one. But 
I guess it is better than nothing. If you want to dial a number on the dialpad 
you can also use the number row on a Bluetooth keyboard and pressing enter will 
dial the call.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio ducking, was RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to 
prompts.

Thank you, Richard for such quick response.  I'd never thought much about that 
before.  I learn lots from being in this group.

Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

On Sep 10, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Audio Ducking lowers the volume of a program when VoiceOver is speaking.
If you are listening to music, and touch the screen, the music will dim a 
little to try to make it easier to hear what VoiceOver is saying.
So, in the case of trying to hear the numbers on a keypad when accessing a 
phone system like what many banks use, you have a better chance of hearing the 
numbers you are touching over the recorded message from the bank.

HTH,


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio ducking, was RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to 
prompts.

Hello Friends,

Forgive my ignorance here.  But can somebody explain what Audio Ducking is, and 
the advantages and disadvantages of turning it on or off?  Thanks.

Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

On Sep 10, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Audio Ducking is under Settings, General, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio.
And, you can go into the Rotor Settings and add it to the rotor as there may be 
times when you do not want it on.



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

Where do you find audio ducking?

Karen P

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

Someone else had mentioned turning on audio ducking; which would help, but also 
add Volume to rotor, which will allow you to control the VO volume separately 
from the main volume.
Then, turn the phone volume down with the side button, and VO volume up with 
the rotor to make it easier to here the numbers.

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 10, 2019, at 1:35 AM, Ian Harrison 
mailto:ihcla...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I think this is a general problem. If you have earphones I find that the 
numbers spoken by voice over are more distinct for some reason. I can’t 
guarantee or explain why this is so, but it usually works for me.

Regards, Ian
On 10 Sep 2019, at 01:13, Carolyn Arnold 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a
call for confirmation of a medical appointment, I could
hardly hear the one and when I pressed it for the talking on
the tape, which would have started again, if I had not
punched something - same thing with pharmacy and other
situations, where a digit or digits have to be pressed,
while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can
enhance the sound of the touch pad?

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

Carolyn
If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
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RE: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9 to 5 Mac

[Sieghard Weitzel]

These are just guesses and conjecture at this point and in my opinion there is 
little point in engaging in them until we actually find out more regarding this 
in-screen or under-screen Touch Id feature and if and when it might be coming. 
Sure, Apple has introduced and abandoned features before, 3D touch seems to be 
one of them, but I somehow doubt that Face Id is going away considering that it 
is being used more and more everywhere and also because Apple still seems to 
care about accessibility and there are certainly people who can't use Touch Id 
because maybe they don't have hands or arms etc.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
Worrell
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 8:01 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9 to 
5 Mac

Hey Mark,

I agree with the author of the article. I hope they don’t ax the FaceID 
functions. I have found FaceID to be much more reliable then TouchID ever was. 
Granted there are some minor trade offs with FaceID vs TouchID. At the payment 
terminal TouchID can be a little quicker as you and I have discussed off list. 
In everyday use I find the FaceID function to be much quicker and much more 
friendly to use. There were many times with TouchID it simply would not 
recognize my finger print and it would kick me to the keypad anyway. This then 
defeated the purpose of TouchID to me… Maybe I’m the odd man out here but I 
love FaceID and it’s simplicity. 

Just my thoughts on the FaceID vs TouchID argument.

Ed W.

 

> On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> As I am one of those insane people who is waiting for Apple to 
> re-introduce Touch-ID back into the iPhone, before purchasing a new 
> model, I found the following article interesting.
> 
> Mark.
> 
> In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead By Ben 
> Lovejoy
> 
> In-screen Touch ID could be appearing in iPhones as early as next 
> year, according to a new report today. But while the current report 
> suggests that both Touch ID and Face ID fans will be catered for, that 
> may not remain the case for long.
> 
> The debate between the respective fans of Touch ID and Face ID began 
> when Apple launched the iPhone X, the first iPhone to be launched 
> without the fingerprint reader since it made its debut on the iPhone 5 S in 
> 2013.
> 
> With the iPhone X launch, Apple seemed pretty clear that Face ID was 
> the future of iPhone authentication. It is, says Apple, faster, 
> easier, and more secure than Touch ID.
> Face ID reinvented the way we unlock, log in, and pay. Some of our 
> most sophisticated technologies - the TrueDepth camera system, the 
> Secure Enclave and the Neural Engine - make it the most secure facial 
> authentication ever in a smart-phone. And even faster and easier to use.
> 
> Close family members aside, Apple says that Face ID is 20 times more 
> secure than Touch ID.
> Every fingerprint is unique, so it's rare that even a small section of 
> two separate fingerprints are alike enough to register as a match for Touch 
> ID.
> The probability of this happening is 1 in 50,000 with a single, 
> enrolled finger.
> 
> The probability that a random person in the population could look at 
> your iPhone or iPad Pro and unlock it using Face ID is approximately 1 
> in 1 million with a single enrolled appearance.
> 
> Most owners of iPhone X/XS and latest iPad Pro devices say they would 
> never go back. That's certainly true for me.
> 
> But while that appears to be the consensus view, it's not a universal one.
> There are owners of Face ID devices who say they find it less reliable 
> than Touch ID, and there are owners of Touch ID devices who claim they 
> won't upgrade until Touch ID is available on newer devices.
> 
> Today's report says that Apple is aiming to please all of the people 
> all of the time, with plans to offer both forms of biometric 
> authentication in future iPhones, starting in either 2020 or 2021. 
> In-screen Touch ID would enable Apple to bring back Touch ID without the need 
> for a Home button.
> 
> Apple is apparently readying a new under-display integrated Touch ID 
> fingerprint sensor "as early as its 2020 iPhones" next fall, according 
> to a report today from Bloomberg. The report says it would be an 
> addition to the existing Face ID authentication and unlock system, 
> allowing users to authenticate with either fingerprint or face 
> biometrics [.]
> 
> Offering both Touch ID and Face ID would increase overall convenience 
> and speed of unlocking the iPhone. A user would register their 
> fingerprints and facial signature, and the phone can unlock as soon as 
> either recognition succeeds. This means Touch ID can make up for Face 
> ID's weaknesses, and vice versa.
> 
> The problem may come in the future, however. Once In-screen Touch ID 
> proves reliable, the temptation for Apple to lose the notch by 
> dro

RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

In Voiceover settings and in Rotor settings you can add it to the rotor so if 
you wish to turn it on or off frequently this would be the easiest way

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

Where do you find audio ducking?

Karen P

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

Someone else had mentioned turning on audio ducking; which would help, but also 
add Volume to rotor, which will allow you to control the VO volume separately 
from the main volume.
Then, turn the phone volume down with the side button, and VO volume up with 
the rotor to make it easier to here the numbers.

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 10, 2019, at 1:35 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
Hi,
I think this is a general problem. If you have earphones I find that the 
numbers spoken by voice over are more distinct for some reason. I can’t 
guarantee or explain why this is so, but it usually works for me.

Regards, Ian
On 10 Sep 2019, at 01:13, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a
call for confirmation of a medical appointment, I could
hardly hear the one and when I pressed it for the talking on
the tape, which would have started again, if I had not
punched something - same thing with pharmacy and other
situations, where a digit or digits have to be pressed,
while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can
enhance the sound of the touch pad?

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

Carolyn
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RE: Keyless door locks that work with iPhone and android phones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

We have a Schlage Sense smartlock, the newer version of it is even better, the 
app is accessible and it works fine with SIRI or via the Home app.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LARA)
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Keyless door locks that work with iPhone and android phones

Do you know if these will work with both? My household is currently split in 
that some of us use ios and my husband is an android user so I need something 
that will work for both systems.
Thanks 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mickey 
Quenzer
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:19 AM
To: viphone List 
Subject: Keyless door locks that work with iPhone and android phones

Hello:

The subject says it best, any ideas?
I am looking at two of them so far. 



August Smart Lock - Keyless Home Entry with Your Smartphone - Silver And  
Kwikset 99160-021 SmartCode 916 Traditional Smart Touchscreen Deadbolt Door 
Lock...


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Re: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9 to 5 Mac

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Mark,

I agree with the author of the article. I hope they don’t ax the FaceID 
functions. I have found FaceID to be much more reliable then TouchID ever was. 
Granted there are some minor trade offs with FaceID vs TouchID. At the payment 
terminal TouchID can be a little quicker as you and I have discussed off list. 
In everyday use I find the FaceID function to be much quicker and much more 
friendly to use. There were many times with TouchID it simply would not 
recognize my finger print and it would kick me to the keypad anyway. This then 
defeated the purpose of TouchID to me… Maybe I’m the odd man out here but I 
love FaceID and it’s simplicity. 

Just my thoughts on the FaceID vs TouchID argument.

Ed W.

 

> On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> As I am one of those insane people who is waiting for Apple to re-introduce
> Touch-ID back into the iPhone, before purchasing a new model, I found the
> following article interesting.
> 
> Mark.
> 
> In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead
> By Ben Lovejoy 
> 
> In-screen Touch ID could be appearing in iPhones as early as next year,
> according to a new report today. But while the current report suggests that
> both Touch ID and Face ID fans will be catered for, that may not remain the
> case for long.
> 
> The debate between the respective fans of Touch ID and Face ID began when
> Apple launched the iPhone X, the first iPhone to be launched without the
> fingerprint reader since it made its debut on the iPhone 5 S in 2013.
> 
> With the iPhone X launch, Apple seemed pretty clear that Face ID was the
> future of iPhone authentication. It is, says Apple, faster, easier, and more
> secure than Touch ID.
> Face ID reinvented the way we unlock, log in, and pay. Some of our most
> sophisticated technologies - the TrueDepth camera system, the Secure Enclave
> and the Neural Engine - make it the most secure facial authentication ever
> in a smart-phone. And even faster and easier to use.
> 
> Close family members aside, Apple says that Face ID is 20 times more secure
> than Touch ID.
> Every fingerprint is unique, so it's rare that even a small section of two
> separate fingerprints are alike enough to register as a match for Touch ID.
> The probability of this happening is 1 in 50,000 with a single, enrolled
> finger.
> 
> The probability that a random person in the population could look at your
> iPhone or iPad Pro and unlock it using Face ID is approximately 1 in 1
> million with a single enrolled appearance.
> 
> Most owners of iPhone X/XS and latest iPad Pro devices say they would never
> go back. That's certainly true for me.
> 
> But while that appears to be the consensus view, it's not a universal one.
> There are owners of Face ID devices who say they find it less reliable than
> Touch ID, and there are owners of Touch ID devices who claim they won't
> upgrade until Touch ID is available on newer devices.
> 
> Today's report says that Apple is aiming to please all of the people all of
> the time, with plans to offer both forms of biometric authentication in
> future iPhones, starting in either 2020 or 2021. In-screen Touch ID would
> enable Apple to bring back Touch ID without the need for a Home button.
> 
> Apple is apparently readying a new under-display integrated Touch ID
> fingerprint sensor "as early as its 2020 iPhones" next fall, according to a
> report today from Bloomberg. The report says it would be an addition to the
> existing Face ID authentication and unlock system, allowing users to
> authenticate with either fingerprint or face biometrics [.]
> 
> Offering both Touch ID and Face ID would increase overall convenience and
> speed of unlocking the iPhone. A user would register their fingerprints and
> facial signature, and the phone can unlock as soon as either recognition
> succeeds. This means Touch ID can make up for Face ID's weaknesses, and vice
> versa.
> 
> The problem may come in the future, however. Once In-screen Touch ID proves
> reliable, the temptation for Apple to lose the notch by dropping Face ID may
> prove irresistible.
> 
> Losing the notch, to effectively give an all-screen design, would create a
> similar wow factor to that of the iPhone X when it launched. Jony Ive may
> have bowed out, but his "single slab of glass" vision for the iPhone likely
> lives on within the design team.
> Apple already has form for prioritizing form over function in this way. The
> company has long aimed to make iPhones as slim as possible, even though many
> of us would prefer a slightly thicker phone with better battery life and no
> camera bump.
> 
> Could Apple do both, and embed Face ID tech beneath the display too?
> Long-term, anything is possible. One Android manufacturer has already
> demonstrated an under-screen camera. But that's just a proof of concept at
> this stage, and Apple would also need to embed the IR emitter and dot
> projector too before we could have under-display

RE: Charging with newest 12 IOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, you can turn this off if you want

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 3:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Dave ; Dave Jones 

Subject: Re: Charging with newest 12 IOS


If you read the link I posted on the feature, you'll see that your iPhone is 
supposed to learn your charging habits over time. I'm just guessing here, but 
based on what I read, if you only plug your phone in over night then you'll 
probably still get a full charge when you plug it in in the evening, but if you 
plug it in during the day then you'll just get charged up to 80% since your 
phone will think it'll see a charger that evening. As with most things on your 
iPhone, I would assume you could toggle it on or off, and in fact, I think I 
read this feature will be off to start with and you'll need to turn it on.


On 9/10/19 2:43 AM, Dave wrote:
I hope this feature, can be turned off.

I’ve had 4 different iPhones over the years, and charged them all over night, 
without any issues.

I’m currently, using an iPhone 8, and i treat it the same, as my previous 
phones.

I get about 3 years or so, without having to even think about changing my 
battery, which is good enough for me.

I usually get a new phone, about every 3 years, and relegate, my current 
handset, to a backup.

I’ve had my iPhone 8 since it’s release. and the battery still says 100 percent 
capacity, with my 6s, saying 92 percent.

Dave.


From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 1:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Dave 
Jones
Subject: Re: Charging with newest 12 IOS


I'm not sure why they settled on 80%, but the Battery University article does 
talk about research done by Tesla, so it may be the result of some 
experimentation. There may also be some chemistry that explains this. I just 
don't know.




On 9/9/19 9:32 AM, Dave Jones wrote:
Why only go to 80%? Why not 90%?

On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 4:57 PM Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This advice is counter to what I've read on caring for a lithium ion battery, 
so it would be good to get some references. Everything I've read suggests 
frequent shallow charging 
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries



I did find this article on Apple's battery optimization feature in IOS 13. 
https://www.macworld.com/article/3408336/ios-13s-new-optimized-battery-charging-feature-explained.html



Note that it doesn't say anything about not charging your phone daily. It 
sounds to me like this feature will try to help with more frequent shallow 
charging.


On 9/8/19 2:16 PM, Feliciano Godoy wrote:
Sieghard.,
I understand that the iPhone battery goes into AC mode after it has been topped 
off.  When working with lithium batteries, it’s not recommended to fully charge 
them daily. Hence why Apple is creating this new optimize battery charging 
feature.

  Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE 
www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow 
www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow 
www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are 
crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs


On Sep 8, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
In any case, as far as I know this new “Optimize Battery Charging” setting is 
only in iOS 13 and not in iOS 12.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging with newest 12 IOS

Where did you read that? I guess you can find somebody saying this online 
somewhere just as  you can find many who say leaving your phone plugged in 
makes no difference, once the battery is fully charged it will turn off 
charging which is indicated by the “100%, On AC Power” when you look at your 
battery indicator.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 8:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging with newest 12 IOS

Hi,
It is actually not recommended to charge overnight.
For that reason, Apple has implemented Optimized battery charging feature. This 
can be found inside settings, battery, battery health. The feature can then be 
changed.

Feliciano

For Tech tips and updates from a Blindness Perspective,
Follow www.twitter.com/TheBlindMan12v
Like www.facebook.com/TheBlindMan12v



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googl

RE: Charging with newest 12 IOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, you can turn this off if you want

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 3:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Dave ; Dave Jones 

Subject: Re: Charging with newest 12 IOS


If you read the link I posted on the feature, you'll see that your iPhone is 
supposed to learn your charging habits over time. I'm just guessing here, but 
based on what I read, if you only plug your phone in over night then you'll 
probably still get a full charge when you plug it in in the evening, but if you 
plug it in during the day then you'll just get charged up to 80% since your 
phone will think it'll see a charger that evening. As with most things on your 
iPhone, I would assume you could toggle it on or off, and in fact, I think I 
read this feature will be off to start with and you'll need to turn it on.


On 9/10/19 2:43 AM, Dave wrote:
I hope this feature, can be turned off.

I’ve had 4 different iPhones over the years, and charged them all over night, 
without any issues.

I’m currently, using an iPhone 8, and i treat it the same, as my previous 
phones.

I get about 3 years or so, without having to even think about changing my 
battery, which is good enough for me.

I usually get a new phone, about every 3 years, and relegate, my current 
handset, to a backup.

I’ve had my iPhone 8 since it’s release. and the battery still says 100 percent 
capacity, with my 6s, saying 92 percent.

Dave.


From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 1:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Dave 
Jones
Subject: Re: Charging with newest 12 IOS


I'm not sure why they settled on 80%, but the Battery University article does 
talk about research done by Tesla, so it may be the result of some 
experimentation. There may also be some chemistry that explains this. I just 
don't know.




On 9/9/19 9:32 AM, Dave Jones wrote:
Why only go to 80%? Why not 90%?

On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 4:57 PM Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This advice is counter to what I've read on caring for a lithium ion battery, 
so it would be good to get some references. Everything I've read suggests 
frequent shallow charging 
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries



I did find this article on Apple's battery optimization feature in IOS 13. 
https://www.macworld.com/article/3408336/ios-13s-new-optimized-battery-charging-feature-explained.html



Note that it doesn't say anything about not charging your phone daily. It 
sounds to me like this feature will try to help with more frequent shallow 
charging.


On 9/8/19 2:16 PM, Feliciano Godoy wrote:
Sieghard.,
I understand that the iPhone battery goes into AC mode after it has been topped 
off.  When working with lithium batteries, it’s not recommended to fully charge 
them daily. Hence why Apple is creating this new optimize battery charging 
feature.

  Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE 
www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow 
www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow 
www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are 
crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs


On Sep 8, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
In any case, as far as I know this new “Optimize Battery Charging” setting is 
only in iOS 13 and not in iOS 12.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging with newest 12 IOS

Where did you read that? I guess you can find somebody saying this online 
somewhere just as  you can find many who say leaving your phone plugged in 
makes no difference, once the battery is fully charged it will turn off 
charging which is indicated by the “100%, On AC Power” when you look at your 
battery indicator.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 8:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging with newest 12 IOS

Hi,
It is actually not recommended to charge overnight.
For that reason, Apple has implemented Optimized battery charging feature. This 
can be found inside settings, battery, battery health. The feature can then be 
changed.

Feliciano

For Tech tips and updates from a Blindness Perspective,
Follow www.twitter.com/TheBlindMan12v
Like www.facebook.com/TheBlindMan12v



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googl

RE: Charging with newest 12 IOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, you can turn this off if you want

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 3:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Dave ; Dave Jones 

Subject: Re: Charging with newest 12 IOS


If you read the link I posted on the feature, you'll see that your iPhone is 
supposed to learn your charging habits over time. I'm just guessing here, but 
based on what I read, if you only plug your phone in over night then you'll 
probably still get a full charge when you plug it in in the evening, but if you 
plug it in during the day then you'll just get charged up to 80% since your 
phone will think it'll see a charger that evening. As with most things on your 
iPhone, I would assume you could toggle it on or off, and in fact, I think I 
read this feature will be off to start with and you'll need to turn it on.


On 9/10/19 2:43 AM, Dave wrote:
I hope this feature, can be turned off.

I’ve had 4 different iPhones over the years, and charged them all over night, 
without any issues.

I’m currently, using an iPhone 8, and i treat it the same, as my previous 
phones.

I get about 3 years or so, without having to even think about changing my 
battery, which is good enough for me.

I usually get a new phone, about every 3 years, and relegate, my current 
handset, to a backup.

I’ve had my iPhone 8 since it’s release. and the battery still says 100 percent 
capacity, with my 6s, saying 92 percent.

Dave.


From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 1:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Dave 
Jones
Subject: Re: Charging with newest 12 IOS


I'm not sure why they settled on 80%, but the Battery University article does 
talk about research done by Tesla, so it may be the result of some 
experimentation. There may also be some chemistry that explains this. I just 
don't know.




On 9/9/19 9:32 AM, Dave Jones wrote:
Why only go to 80%? Why not 90%?

On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 4:57 PM Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This advice is counter to what I've read on caring for a lithium ion battery, 
so it would be good to get some references. Everything I've read suggests 
frequent shallow charging 
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries



I did find this article on Apple's battery optimization feature in IOS 13. 
https://www.macworld.com/article/3408336/ios-13s-new-optimized-battery-charging-feature-explained.html



Note that it doesn't say anything about not charging your phone daily. It 
sounds to me like this feature will try to help with more frequent shallow 
charging.


On 9/8/19 2:16 PM, Feliciano Godoy wrote:
Sieghard.,
I understand that the iPhone battery goes into AC mode after it has been topped 
off.  When working with lithium batteries, it’s not recommended to fully charge 
them daily. Hence why Apple is creating this new optimize battery charging 
feature.

  Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE 
www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow 
www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow 
www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v those who are 
crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs


On Sep 8, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
In any case, as far as I know this new “Optimize Battery Charging” setting is 
only in iOS 13 and not in iOS 12.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging with newest 12 IOS

Where did you read that? I guess you can find somebody saying this online 
somewhere just as  you can find many who say leaving your phone plugged in 
makes no difference, once the battery is fully charged it will turn off 
charging which is indicated by the “100%, On AC Power” when you look at your 
battery indicator.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 8:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging with newest 12 IOS

Hi,
It is actually not recommended to charge overnight.
For that reason, Apple has implemented Optimized battery charging feature. This 
can be found inside settings, battery, battery health. The feature can then be 
changed.

Feliciano

For Tech tips and updates from a Blindness Perspective,
Follow www.twitter.com/TheBlindMan12v
Like www.facebook.com/TheBlindMan12v



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googl

Re: Audio ducking, was RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Duane Steele]

Thank you, Richard for such quick response.  I'd never thought much about that 
before.  I learn lots from being in this group.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Sep 10, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Audio Ducking lowers the volume of a program when VoiceOver is speaking.
> If you are listening to music, and touch the screen, the music will dim a 
> little to try to make it easier to hear what VoiceOver is saying.
> So, in the case of trying to hear the numbers on a keypad when accessing a 
> phone system like what many banks use, you have a better chance of hearing 
> the numbers you are touching over the recorded message from the bank.
>  
> HTH,
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Audio ducking, was RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening 
> to prompts.
>  
> Hello Friends,
>  
> Forgive my ignorance here.  But can somebody explain what Audio Ducking is, 
> and the advantages and disadvantages of turning it on or off?  Thanks.
>  
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
> On Sep 10, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Audio Ducking is under Settings, General, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio.
> And, you can go into the Rotor Settings and add it to the rotor as there may 
> be times when you do not want it on.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
> Poulakos
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.
>  
> Where do you find audio ducking?
>  
> Karen P
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.
>  
> Someone else had mentioned turning on audio ducking; which would help, but 
> also add Volume to rotor, which will allow you to control the VO volume 
> separately from the main volume.
> Then, turn the phone volume down with the side button, and VO volume up with 
> the rotor to make it easier to here the numbers.
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
>  
>  
> 
> On Sep 10, 2019, at 1:35 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I think this is a general problem. If you have earphones I find that the 
> numbers spoken by voice over are more distinct for some reason. I can’t 
> guarantee or explain why this is so, but it usually works for me.
> 
> Regards, Ian
> 
> On 10 Sep 2019, at 01:13, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>  
> On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a
> call for confirmation of a medical appointment, I could
> hardly hear the one and when I pressed it for the talking on
> the tape, which would have started again, if I had not
> punched something - same thing with pharmacy and other
> situations, where a digit or digits have to be pressed,
> while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can
> enhance the sound of the touch pad?
>  
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
>  
> Carolyn
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
> If you pray, don't worry, if you worry, don't pray,
>  
>  
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RE: Audio ducking, was RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Richard Turner]

Audio Ducking lowers the volume of a program when VoiceOver is speaking.
If you are listening to music, and touch the screen, the music will dim a 
little to try to make it easier to hear what VoiceOver is saying.
So, in the case of trying to hear the numbers on a keypad when accessing a 
phone system like what many banks use, you have a better chance of hearing the 
numbers you are touching over the recorded message from the bank.

HTH,


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio ducking, was RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to 
prompts.

Hello Friends,

Forgive my ignorance here.  But can somebody explain what Audio Ducking is, and 
the advantages and disadvantages of turning it on or off?  Thanks.

Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

On Sep 10, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Audio Ducking is under Settings, General, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio.
And, you can go into the Rotor Settings and add it to the rotor as there may be 
times when you do not want it on.



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

Where do you find audio ducking?

Karen P

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

Someone else had mentioned turning on audio ducking; which would help, but also 
add Volume to rotor, which will allow you to control the VO volume separately 
from the main volume.
Then, turn the phone volume down with the side button, and VO volume up with 
the rotor to make it easier to here the numbers.

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 10, 2019, at 1:35 AM, Ian Harrison 
mailto:ihcla...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I think this is a general problem. If you have earphones I find that the 
numbers spoken by voice over are more distinct for some reason. I can’t 
guarantee or explain why this is so, but it usually works for me.

Regards, Ian
On 10 Sep 2019, at 01:13, Carolyn Arnold 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a
call for confirmation of a medical appointment, I could
hardly hear the one and when I pressed it for the talking on
the tape, which would have started again, if I had not
punched something - same thing with pharmacy and other
situations, where a digit or digits have to be pressed,
while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can
enhance the sound of the touch pad?

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

Carolyn
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Re: Audio ducking, was RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Duane Steele]

Hello Friends,

Forgive my ignorance here.  But can somebody explain what Audio Ducking is, and 
the advantages and disadvantages of turning it on or off?  Thanks.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Sep 10, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Audio Ducking is under Settings, General, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio.
> And, you can go into the Rotor Settings and add it to the rotor as there may 
> be times when you do not want it on.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
> Poulakos
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.
>  
> Where do you find audio ducking?
>  
> Karen P
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.
>  
> Someone else had mentioned turning on audio ducking; which would help, but 
> also add Volume to rotor, which will allow you to control the VO volume 
> separately from the main volume.
> Then, turn the phone volume down with the side button, and VO volume up with 
> the rotor to make it easier to here the numbers.
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
>  
>  
> 
> On Sep 10, 2019, at 1:35 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I think this is a general problem. If you have earphones I find that the 
> numbers spoken by voice over are more distinct for some reason. I can’t 
> guarantee or explain why this is so, but it usually works for me.
> 
> Regards, Ian
> 
> On 10 Sep 2019, at 01:13, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>  
> On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a
> call for confirmation of a medical appointment, I could
> hardly hear the one and when I pressed it for the talking on
> the tape, which would have started again, if I had not
> punched something - same thing with pharmacy and other
> situations, where a digit or digits have to be pressed,
> while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can
> enhance the sound of the touch pad?
>  
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
>  
> Carolyn
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> If you pray, don't worry, if you worry, don't pray,
>  
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RE: Keyless door locks that work with iPhone and android phones

[Laury, Shawnese (LARA)]

Do you know if these will work with both? My household is currently split in 
that some of us use ios and my husband is an android user so I need something 
that will work for both systems.
Thanks 

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Quenzer
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:19 AM
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Subject: Keyless door locks that work with iPhone and android phones

Hello:

The subject says it best, any ideas?
I am looking at two of them so far. 



August Smart Lock - Keyless Home Entry with Your Smartphone - Silver And  
Kwikset 99160-021 SmartCode 916 Traditional Smart Touchscreen Deadbolt Door 
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Audio ducking, was RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Richard Turner]

Audio Ducking is under Settings, General, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio.
And, you can go into the Rotor Settings and add it to the rotor as there may be 
times when you do not want it on.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 5:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

Where do you find audio ducking?

Karen P

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

Someone else had mentioned turning on audio ducking; which would help, but also 
add Volume to rotor, which will allow you to control the VO volume separately 
from the main volume.
Then, turn the phone volume down with the side button, and VO volume up with 
the rotor to make it easier to here the numbers.

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 10, 2019, at 1:35 AM, Ian Harrison 
mailto:ihcla...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I think this is a general problem. If you have earphones I find that the 
numbers spoken by voice over are more distinct for some reason. I can’t 
guarantee or explain why this is so, but it usually works for me.

Regards, Ian
On 10 Sep 2019, at 01:13, Carolyn Arnold 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a
call for confirmation of a medical appointment, I could
hardly hear the one and when I pressed it for the talking on
the tape, which would have started again, if I had not
punched something - same thing with pharmacy and other
situations, where a digit or digits have to be pressed,
while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can
enhance the sound of the touch pad?

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

Carolyn
If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
If you pray, don't worry, if you worry, don't pray,


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RE: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Karen Poulakos]

Where do you find audio ducking?

 

Karen P

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

 

Someone else had mentioned turning on audio ducking; which would help, but also 
add Volume to rotor, which will allow you to control the VO volume separately 
from the main volume. 

Then, turn the phone volume down with the side button, and VO volume up with 
the rotor to make it easier to here the numbers.

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 





On Sep 10, 2019, at 1:35 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:

Hi,
I think this is a general problem. If you have earphones I find that the 
numbers spoken by voice over are more distinct for some reason. I can’t 
guarantee or explain why this is so, but it usually works for me.

Regards, Ian



On 10 Sep 2019, at 01:13, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

 

On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a

call for confirmation of a medical appointment, I could

hardly hear the one and when I pressed it for the talking on

the tape, which would have started again, if I had not

punched something - same thing with pharmacy and other

situations, where a digit or digits have to be pressed,

while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can

enhance the sound of the touch pad? 

 

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

 

Carolyn

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

If you pray, don't worry, if you worry, don't pray,

 

 

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Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Richard Turner]

Someone else had mentioned turning on audio ducking; which would help, but also 
add Volume to rotor, which will allow you to control the VO volume separately 
from the main volume.
Then, turn the phone volume down with the side button, and VO volume up with 
the rotor to make it easier to here the numbers.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 10, 2019, at 1:35 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:

Hi,
I think this is a general problem. If you have earphones I find that the 
numbers spoken by voice over are more distinct for some reason. I can’t 
guarantee or explain why this is so, but it usually works for me.

Regards, Ian
On 10 Sep 2019, at 01:13, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a
call for confirmation of a medical appointment, I could
hardly hear the one and when I pressed it for the talking on
the tape, which would have started again, if I had not
punched something - same thing with pharmacy and other
situations, where a digit or digits have to be pressed,
while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can
enhance the sound of the touch pad?

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

Carolyn
If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
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Re: Charging with newest 12 IOS

[Christopher Chaltain]

If you read the link I posted on the feature, you'll see that your 
iPhone is supposed to learn your charging habits over time. I'm just 
guessing here, but based on what I read, if you only plug your phone in 
over night then you'll probably still get a full charge when you plug it 
in in the evening, but if you plug it in during the day then you'll just 
get charged up to 80% since your phone will think it'll see a charger 
that evening. As with most things on your iPhone, I would assume you 
could toggle it on or off, and in fact, I think I read this feature will 
be off to start with and you'll need to turn it on.



On 9/10/19 2:43 AM, Dave wrote:

I hope this feature, can be turned off.
I’ve had 4 different iPhones over the years, and charged them all over 
night, without any issues.
I’m currently, using an iPhone 8, and i treat it the same, as my 
previous phones.
I get about 3 years or so, without having to even think about changing 
my battery, which is good enough for me.
I usually get a new phone, about every 3 years, and relegate, my 
current handset, to a backup.
I’ve had my iPhone 8 since it’s release. and the battery still says 
100 percent capacity, with my 6s, saying 92 percent.

Dave.
*From:* Christopher Chaltain 
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 10, 2019 1:29 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com  ; 
Dave Jones 

*Subject:* Re: Charging with newest 12 IOS

I'm not sure why they settled on 80%, but the Battery University 
article does talk about research done by Tesla, so it may be the 
result of some experimentation. There may also be some chemistry that 
explains this. I just don't know.


On 9/9/19 9:32 AM, Dave Jones wrote:

Why only go to 80%? Why not 90%?
On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 4:57 PM Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:


This advice is counter to what I've read on caring for a lithium
ion battery, so it would be good to get some references.
Everything I've read suggests frequent shallow charging

https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

I did find this article on Apple's battery optimization feature
in IOS 13.

https://www.macworld.com/article/3408336/ios-13s-new-optimized-battery-charging-feature-explained.html

Note that it doesn't say anything about not charging your phone
daily. It sounds to me like this feature will try to help with
more frequent shallow charging.

On 9/8/19 2:16 PM, Feliciano Godoy wrote:

Sieghard.,
I understand that the iPhone battery goes into AC mode after it
has been topped off. When working with lithium batteries, it’s
not recommended to fully charge them daily. Hence why Apple is
creating this new optimize battery charging feature.
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On Sep 8, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:


In any case, as far as I know this new “Optimize Battery
Charging” setting is only in iOS 13 and not in iOS 12.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Sunday, September 8, 2019 11:10 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Charging with newest 12 IOS

Where did you read that? I guess you can find somebody saying
this online somewhere just as  you can find many who say
leaving your phone plugged in makes no difference, once the
battery is fully charged it will turn off charging which is
indicated by the “100%, On AC Power” when you look at your
battery indicator.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of *Feliciano Godoy
*Sent:* Sunday, September 8, 2019 8:55 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Charging with newest 12 IOS

Hi,

It is actually not recommended to charge overnight.

For that reason, Apple has implemented Optimized battery
charging feature. This can be found inside settings, battery,
battery health. The feature can then be changed.

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Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

[Ian Harrison]

Hi,
I think this is a general problem. If you have earphones I find that the 
numbers spoken by voice over are more distinct for some reason. I can’t 
guarantee or explain why this is so, but it usually works for me.

Regards, Ian
> On 10 Sep 2019, at 01:13, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a
> call for confirmation of a medical appointment, I could
> hardly hear the one and when I pressed it for the talking on
> the tape, which would have started again, if I had not
> punched something - same thing with pharmacy and other
> situations, where a digit or digits have to be pressed,
> while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can
> enhance the sound of the touch pad? 
> 
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
> 
> Carolyn
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Re: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

This is one of the best reasons some of us still, even now,  require and get a 
phone with real keys.  The alternative could  be one 
of the tactile or brailled screen protectors with dots in the right place.

As you describe, and having 2 hearing aids which don't help any in this case, 
why I can't and don't deal with those on an iPhone.
Phone banking?   come back Nokia, all, almost all, is forgiven.

RobH, still has one.
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 1:13 AM
Subject: hearing numbers punched, when listening to prompts.


On my iPhone SE, for example, the other day, when I got a
call for confirmation of a medical appointment, I could
hardly hear the one and when I pressed it for the talking on
the tape, which would have started again, if I had not
punched something - same thing with pharmacy and other
situations, where a digit or digits have to be pressed,
while announcements are in progress. Is there any way I can
enhance the sound of the touch pad?

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

Carolyn
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Re: Charging with newest 12 IOS

[Dave]

I hope this feature, can be turned off.

I’ve had 4 different iPhones over the years, and charged them all over night, 
without any issues.

I’m currently, using an iPhone 8, and i treat it the same, as my previous 
phones.

I get about 3 years or so, without having to even think about changing my 
battery, which is good enough for me.

I usually get a new phone, about every 3 years, and relegate, my current 
handset, to a backup.

I’ve had my iPhone 8 since it’s release. and the battery still says 100 percent 
capacity, with my 6s, saying 92 percent.

Dave.


From: Christopher Chaltain 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 1:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Dave Jones 
Subject: Re: Charging with newest 12 IOS

I'm not sure why they settled on 80%, but the Battery University article does 
talk about research done by Tesla, so it may be the result of some 
experimentation. There may also be some chemistry that explains this. I just 
don't know.






On 9/9/19 9:32 AM, Dave Jones wrote:

  Why only go to 80%? Why not 90%? 

  On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 4:57 PM Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:

This advice is counter to what I've read on caring for a lithium ion 
battery, so it would be good to get some references. Everything I've read 
suggests frequent shallow charging 
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries




I did find this article on Apple's battery optimization feature in IOS 13. 
https://www.macworld.com/article/3408336/ios-13s-new-optimized-battery-charging-feature-explained.html



Note that it doesn't say anything about not charging your phone daily. It 
sounds to me like this feature will try to help with more frequent shallow 
charging.




On 9/8/19 2:16 PM, Feliciano Godoy wrote:

  Sieghard.,  
  I understand that the iPhone battery goes into AC mode after it has been 
topped off.  When working with lithium batteries, it’s not recommended to fully 
charge them daily. Hence why Apple is creating this new optimize battery 
charging feature. 


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  On Sep 8, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


In any case, as far as I know this new “Optimize Battery Charging” 
setting is only in iOS 13 and not in iOS 12.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging with newest 12 IOS



Where did you read that? I guess you can find somebody saying this 
online somewhere just as  you can find many who say leaving your phone plugged 
in makes no difference, once the battery is fully charged it will turn off 
charging which is indicated by the “100%, On AC Power” when you look at your 
battery indicator.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 8:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging with newest 12 IOS



Hi,

It is actually not recommended to charge overnight.

For that reason, Apple has implemented Optimized battery charging 
feature. This can be found inside settings, battery, battery health. The 
feature can then be changed.



Feliciano 



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 8:32 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Charging with newest 12 IOS



Did they introduce the new smart charging with the latest IOS update? 
Last night I put my IPhone X on the charging pad as always. However, it only 
charged to 80% and stopped. I returned it to the pad but it never went to 100%. 

I don’t understand why this feature would be advantageous since I have 
heard over and over that it is not possible to over-charge your IPhone.

Marie



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