Re: Is there a good program to edit and read Word Files in iOS?

[Richard Turner]

At this point; no.
The Word app, and the Pages app, are very difficult to get accurate information 
from VoiceOver as to where you are editing.
Pages is the native Apple word processor that is probably on your phone.
You can only edit with the word app if you have a Microsoft account.
I think an office 365 account; but not sure on that bit of detail.
''

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:


Hi.

I mentioned this a few days ago concerning reading a Word file. I’m just 
curious if there’s an accessible program to work with these file on an iPhone 
X? I’d rather not convert this file so I can work with it in VDW.

Thanks in advance.
Kevin and Jilly

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Re: Help needed using newly acquired Braille Display with Iphone and PC

[Richard Turner]

On a PC, there are not many programs that can read a braille file. You could 
open it in Braille Blaster, a free program from American Printing House for the 
blind. It is also a good program to convert word or txt files into brf.
Section 7 of the Bard User Manual explains how to read braille files from NLS. 
Here is section 7.1, but you may want to read more.  Almost all NLS braille 
materials downloadable from BARD are in contracted braille. To read a 
contracted braille book or magazine with BARD Mobile, you must set braille 
input and output to eight-dot and you must turn off single-letter Quick Nav. 
Even with eight-dot braille on, BARD Mobile will display your book or magazine 
in six-dot braille. You can turn eight-dot braille input on with dots 
2-3-6-spacebar. You can turn eight-dot braille output on with 1-2-4-5-spacebar. 
Both of these can also be set from within braille on the VoiceOver settings 
menu of your iOS device. The command for toggling single-letter Quick Nav is 
spacebar with dots 1-2-3-4-5-7.

Richard

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On Sep 16, 2019, at 8:58 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:

Very simple question here for those that can help. Which apps on my iphone and 
laptop are able to open brf files? I tried opening a Braille book using bard, 
but it appears the text isn't translating correctly. I tried setting phone to 
both UEB and US contracted just in case, but getting lots of strange stuff on 
the display.
as for pc, I have no idea what I should be using. I also had this little issue 
where the phone would lock, and the display would disconnect. any way to turn 
that off? I'm very new to displays so any help would be much appreciated. thank 
you!




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Is there a good program to edit and read Word Files in iOS?

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

I mentioned this a few days ago concerning reading a Word file. I'm just 
curious if there's an accessible program to work with these file on an iPhone 
X? I'd rather not convert this file so I can work with it in VDW.

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Help needed using newly acquired Braille Display with Iphone and PC

[Yohandy Rodriguez]

Very simple question here for those that can help. Which apps on my 
iphone and laptop are able to open brf files? I tried opening a Braille 
book using bard, but it appears the text isn't translating correctly. I 
tried setting phone to both UEB and US contracted just in case, but 
getting lots of strange stuff on the display.
as for pc, I have no idea what I should be using. I also had this little 
issue where the phone would lock, and the display would disconnect. any 
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Re: An audio description question

[Shirley Baker]

I stand corrected about something I said earlier. I thought I had audio 
description turned on last night but didn't so I tried it this evening and it 
started playing in Spanish. I have the voice remote from Comcast. I was 
listening to the country music show you all are referring to. Also, thanks for 
the video app someone mentioned on this list.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> 
> I had audio description turned on, when I watched last night, but it
> wasn't working.  But my pbs station tencs to do this.  I have been
> watching Downton Abbey and they do repeat the episode and the first
> showing of a particular episode may not be described, but the repeat
> of it will be.
> Hope that makes sense.
> Patti
> 
>> On 9/16/19, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> The Ken Burns Country Music documentary contains 8 episodes in season 1
>> which air on public television on Sunday through Wednesday of this week and
>> Sunday through Wednesday of next week concluding on September 25th. This is
>> based on my DirecTV schedule for my local public television station so your
>> viewing dates could vary.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Peter Coyote narrates the program.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Shirley Baker
>> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 4:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: An audio description question
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I too watched the same show last night with audio description and it was
>> very good. The second part is coming on tonight and maybe another night this
>> week. I think it will also be on next Sunday night but not absolutely
>> certain of that.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pbs is not doing a very good job with audio description these days.
>> 
>> Complain to whomever you bought it through.
>> 
>> Also, are you saying you watched it live on TV with audio description it
>> worked?
>> 
>> It most certainly should be available then in what you purchased.
>> 
>> Double check the audio settings in whatever app you used to watch the
>> purchased copy to make sure there isn't another place to enable it.
>> 
>> I'd be asking about a refund if it were me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Perhaps if you wrote to the vendor, you might get satisfaction based on an
>> accessibility need.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:56 PM Duane Steele 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for your response.  In my case, while watching on PBS, I had audio
>> description.  But when I was notified that the first episode was in my TV
>> library, I didn't have description.  I've already purchased the season pass.
>> So I guess my personal copy of this series will exclude audio description
>> even though it's available.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> 
>> Duane L. Steele
>> 
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very strongly about
>> this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night and we did
>> without the video description but you are absolutely correct we wanted to
>> know who it was that was speaking at the time and to get some of the
>> information about the background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be a
>> great wonderful excellent Ken Burns special.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Friends,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I have
>> audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought the
>> season pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country music,
>> the first episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" the program
>> with audio description.  The first episode is now in my TV library but
>> without audio description.  For the most part, I won't need it.  But it's
>> helpful to have when people are speaking and you're not sure who's speaking.
>> I should also mention that I ordered it in SD instead of HD because, as a
>> blind person, I don't need to own the high-definition format since I’m using
>> either an iPhone or iPod.  But if the audio description's only in the HD
>> version, shouldn't that have been made clear when I was making the purchase?
>> Any suggestions would be helpful.  But then, perhaps I just have to settle
>> for owning this excellent documentary without description.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> 
>> Duane L. Steele
>> 
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: An audio description question

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

in my nothing but frustrating experience with Pbs video, I understand that they 
broadcast with audio description, but do not stream audio description. Perhaps 
if any would like to notify them by social media, such as Facebook or Twitter, 
it may stimulate a response. But, this far, I have had nothing but frustration 
with Pbs.

On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:53 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The Ken Burns Country Music documentary contains 8 episodes in season 1 which 
air on public television on Sunday through Wednesday of this week and Sunday 
through Wednesday of next week concluding on September 25th. This is based on 
my DirecTV schedule for my local public television station so your viewing 
dates could vary.

Peter Coyote narrates the program.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Baker
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An audio description question

I too watched the same show last night with audio description and it was very 
good. The second part is coming on tonight and maybe another night this week. I 
think it will also be on next Sunday night but not absolutely certain of that.
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Pbs is not doing a very good job with audio description these days.
Complain to whomever you bought it through.
Also, are you saying you watched it live on TV with audio description it worked?
It most certainly should be available then in what you purchased.
Double check the audio settings in whatever app you used to watch the purchased 
copy to make sure there isn't another place to enable it.
I'd be asking about a refund if it were me.

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



On Sep 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Craig Werner 
mailto:coffeeb...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Perhaps if you wrote to the vendor, you might get satisfaction based on an 
accessibility need.

Craig

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:56 PM Duane Steele 
mailto:duanestee...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thank you for your response.  In my case, while watching on PBS, I had audio 
description.  But when I was notified that the first episode was in my TV 
library, I didn't have description.  I've already purchased the season pass.  
So I guess my personal copy of this series will exclude audio description even 
though it's available.

Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola 
mailto:fireka...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very strongly about 
this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night and we did without 
the video description but you are absolutely correct we wanted to know who it 
was that was speaking at the time and to get some of the information about the 
background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be a great wonderful excellent 
Ken Burns special.
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Duane Steele 
mailto:duanestee...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Friends,



I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I have 
audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought the season 
pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country music, the first 
episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" the program with audio 
description.  The first episode is now in my TV library but without audio 
description.  For the most part, I won't need it.  But it's helpful to have 
when people are speaking and you're not sure who's speaking.  I should also 
mention that I ordered it in SD instead of HD because, as a blind person, I 
don't need to own the high-definition format since I’m using either an iPhone 
or iPod.  But if the audio description's only in the HD version, shouldn't that 
have been made clear when I was making the purchase?  Any suggestions would be 
helpful.  But then, perhaps I just have to settle for owning this excellent 
documentary without description.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194
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PBS Video app was RE: An audio description question

[Alan Lemly]

If you get the PBS Video app to work, please post specific details on how to 
find the Ken Burns Country Music documentary and episode guide. I saw the post 
from Kay Malmquist mentioning how all 8 episodes of the documentary were 
available on the PBS Video app and that no account was needed to access them. I 
didn't find the PBS Video app at all accessible and I was presented with a grid 
of pictures of the various available programs and Voiceover didn't speak 
anything to indicate what they were. If there is some workaround to find these 
episodes and play them with the app, I'd love to hear how.

 

Alan Lemly

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Debbie Downey
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 8:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An audio description question

 

I recorded last night’s show not knowing that it had audio description so I 
didn’t turn it on. Tonight I scheduled the recording for the second episode and 
was going to turn on DVS but since the first airing of this show was still on I 
thought I’d check it out and it’s in Spanish. So, that’s just probably what 
this local station is doing!

 

I may try that PBS app!

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An audio description question

 

I too watched the same show last night with audio description and it was very 
good. The second part is coming on tonight and maybe another night this week. I 
think it will also be on next Sunday night but not absolutely certain of that.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Pbs is not doing a very good job with audio description these days. 

Complain to whomever you bought it through.

Also, are you saying you watched it live on TV with audio description it worked?

It most certainly should be available then in what you purchased.

Double check the audio settings in whatever app you used to watch the purchased 
copy to make sure there isn't another place to enable it.

I'd be asking about a refund if it were me.

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 

 

On Sep 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:

 

Perhaps if you wrote to the vendor, you might get satisfaction based on an 
accessibility need.

 

Craig

 

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:56 PM Duane Steele  wrote:

Thank you for your response.  In my case, while watching on PBS, I had audio 
description.  But when I was notified that the first episode was in my TV 
library, I didn't have description.  I've already purchased the season pass.  
So I guess my personal copy of this series will exclude audio description even 
though it's available. 

 

Peace & Blessings, 

Duane L. Steele

Phone (276) 730-5194


On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola  wrote:

I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very strongly about 
this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night and we did without 
the video description but you are absolutely correct we wanted to know who it 
was that was speaking at the time and to get some of the information about the 
background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be a great wonderful excellent 
Ken Burns special.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

Hello Friends,

 

I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I have 
audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought the season 
pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country music, the first 
episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" the program with audio 
description.  The first episode is now in my TV library but without audio 
description.  For the most part, I won't need it.  But it's helpful to have 
when people are speaking and you're not sure who's speaking.  I should also 
mention that I ordered it in SD instead of HD because, as a blind person, I 
don't need to own the high-definition format since I’m using either an iPhone 
or iPod.  But if the audio description's only in the HD version, shouldn't that 
have been made clear when I was making the purchase?  Any suggestions would be 
helpful.  But then, perhaps I just have to settle for owning this excellent 
documentary without description.

 

 

Peace & Blessings, 

Duane L. Steele

Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Blind square

[Richard Turner]

James, GPS accuracy varies widely; so you could be 30 feet from a cross street 
or 100.
If the streets are on the map, it should announce them, but some smaller 
streets, paths, are not on maps, so without actually walking the route, no one 
can say if everything will be announced.But, the following information from the 
Blind Square help may give you some idea of what to try.
When BlindSquare announces your distance to an intersection, it uses the center 
of the intersection as a reference point. This means that the width of the 
street also determines how soon you hear the BlindSquare intersection 
announcement before you reach the curb. If you live in an area where the 
streets are narrow, you may find that BlindSquare announces intersections too 
early, whereas in an area where streets are particularly wide, intersections 
may be announced too late. If the default medium setting of this option does 
not work to your satisfaction, try using the Long setting if streets in your 
area are wide or Short if streets are very narrow.



Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 16, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


Blindsquare doesn’t have intersection analysis yet. It is something I have 
lobbying for for years.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind square

Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do 
not know your cane skills.
Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.
Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing; while 
Apple Maps tells you when to turn.
I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business names 
etc when I really just want to know the streets.
Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the 
turn-by-turn portion of the directions.
HTH,

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English 
mailto:james13engl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Could be very interesting; thank you.

Karen
At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a
lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own
points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the
latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows
you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money
reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots
and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app
worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of
the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which
became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can
subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full
version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US
and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New
Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South
America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the
Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as
African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for
those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest
denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and
they also offer a 2-week free trial.
I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy
if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to
distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of
the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian
Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was
using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used
automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the
bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an
angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if
you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the
back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set
vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:

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RE: An audio description question

[Debbie Downey]

I recorded last night’s show not knowing that it had audio description so I 
didn’t turn it on. Tonight I scheduled the recording for the second episode and 
was going to turn on DVS but since the first airing of this show was still on I 
thought I’d check it out and it’s in Spanish. So, that’s just probably what 
this local station is doing!

 

I may try that PBS app!

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An audio description question

 

I too watched the same show last night with audio description and it was very 
good. The second part is coming on tonight and maybe another night this week. I 
think it will also be on next Sunday night but not absolutely certain of that.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Pbs is not doing a very good job with audio description these days. 

Complain to whomever you bought it through.

Also, are you saying you watched it live on TV with audio description it worked?

It most certainly should be available then in what you purchased.

Double check the audio settings in whatever app you used to watch the purchased 
copy to make sure there isn't another place to enable it.

I'd be asking about a refund if it were me.

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 





On Sep 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Craig Werner mailto:coffeeb...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Perhaps if you wrote to the vendor, you might get satisfaction based on an 
accessibility need.

 

Craig

 

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:56 PM Duane Steele mailto:duanestee...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thank you for your response.  In my case, while watching on PBS, I had audio 
description.  But when I was notified that the first episode was in my TV 
library, I didn't have description.  I've already purchased the season pass.  
So I guess my personal copy of this series will exclude audio description even 
though it's available. 

 

Peace & Blessings, 

Duane L. Steele

Phone (276) 730-5194


On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very strongly about 
this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night and we did without 
the video description but you are absolutely correct we wanted to know who it 
was that was speaking at the time and to get some of the information about the 
background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be a great wonderful excellent 
Ken Burns special.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Duane Steele mailto:duanestee...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello Friends,

 

I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I have 
audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought the season 
pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country music, the first 
episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" the program with audio 
description.  The first episode is now in my TV library but without audio 
description.  For the most part, I won't need it.  But it's helpful to have 
when people are speaking and you're not sure who's speaking.  I should also 
mention that I ordered it in SD instead of HD because, as a blind person, I 
don't need to own the high-definition format since I’m using either an iPhone 
or iPod.  But if the audio description's only in the HD version, shouldn't that 
have been made clear when I was making the purchase?  Any suggestions would be 
helpful.  But then, perhaps I just have to settle for owning this excellent 
documentary without description.

 

 

Peace & Blessings, 

Duane L. Steele

Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: Blind square

[Larry Lumpkin]

Blindsquare doesn’t have intersection analysis yet. It is something I have 
lobbying for for years.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind square

 

Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do 
not know your cane skills. 

Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.

Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing; while 
Apple Maps tells you when to turn.

I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business names 
etc when I really just want to know the streets.

Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the 
turn-by-turn portion of the directions.

HTH,

 

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On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English mailto:james13engl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Could be very interesting; thank you.

 

Karen

At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:

I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a

lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own

points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the

latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows

you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money

reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots

and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app

worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of

the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which

became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can

subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full

version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.

However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US

and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New

Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South

America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the

Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as

African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for

those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest

denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and

they also offer a 2-week free trial.

I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy

if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to

distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of

the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian

Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was

using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used

automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the

bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an

angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if

you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the

back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set

vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:

 

https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fcash-reader-bill-identifier%2Fid1344802905
 

 
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Re: Blind square

[James English]

Hi,

What I guess I mean is how accurate is it? When blind square says
street is right in front of me, am I right at the curb, or will their
be slight turns and tiny side streets that aren't spoken?

On 9/17/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do
> not know your cane skills.
> Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.
> Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing;
> while Apple Maps tells you when to turn.
> I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business
> names etc when I really just want to know the streets.
> Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the
> turn-by-turn portion of the directions.
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard
>
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
> busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
> house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
> blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
> course.
>
> - James
>
> On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Could be very interesting; thank you.
>
> Karen
> At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
> I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a
> lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own
> points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the
> latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows
> you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money
> reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots
> and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app
> worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of
> the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which
> became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can
> subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full
> version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
> However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US
> and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New
> Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South
> America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the
> Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as
> African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for
> those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest
> denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and
> they also offer a 2-week free trial.
> I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy
> if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to
> distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of
> the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian
> Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was
> using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used
> automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the
> bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an
> angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if
> you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the
> back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set
> vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:
>
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fcash-reader-bill-identifier%2Fid1344802905&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced598d27e03e4fa3da0c08d73aefdde8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637042674195202727&sdata=RwOUs1VuFkZA1AvROTXJN4kMKfT9AdPIy7SkWsLc2QI%3D&reserved=0
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> Regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: Blind square

[Richard Turner]

Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do 
not know your cane skills.
Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.
Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing; while 
Apple Maps tells you when to turn.
I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business names 
etc when I really just want to know the streets.
Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the 
turn-by-turn portion of the directions.
HTH,


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English  wrote:

Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  wrote:
Could be very interesting; thank you.

Karen
At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a
lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own
points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the
latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows
you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money
reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots
and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app
worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of
the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which
became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can
subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full
version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US
and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New
Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South
America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the
Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as
African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for
those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest
denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and
they also offer a 2-week free trial.
I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy
if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to
distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of
the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian
Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was
using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used
automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the
bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an
angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if
you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the
back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set
vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:

https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fcash-reader-bill-identifier%2Fid1344802905&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced598d27e03e4fa3da0c08d73aefdde8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637042674195202727&sdata=RwOUs1VuFkZA1AvROTXJN4kMKfT9AdPIy7SkWsLc2QI%3D&reserved=0

Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: An audio description question

[Christopher Chaltain]

I know that with Netflix when you download an episode, you lose video 
description, at least that used to be the case. I think it was also true 
with Amazon Prime but when someone pointed it out to Amazon it got 
fixed. I definitely get video description with Amazon Prime now. I'm 
just mentioning this in case this is something you need to point out to 
Apple and iTunes.



On 9/16/19 6:25 PM, Penny Reeder wrote:

Thanks for sharing this news. I am looking forward to checking it out.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2019, at 7:09 PM, Kay Malmquist > wrote:


I discovered last night after listening to this program that there is 
an app called PBS video to stream and listen to all things PBS.  So, 
I got curious and downloaded the app on to my iPhone.  The ratings 
are terrible but I went for it anyway.  The cool thing is that you 
don't have to sign in and if you just go to current events or 
something like that, you can click on it and there are all 8 episodes 
of the country music series, and you can play them all right now.  If 
you have descriptive audio turned on, on your phone, which I think it 
is by default, that even works when playing these.  How cool is 
this?  I just wanted to let anyone know that is interested in this.  
Take care.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
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Paulo Coelho - Poet-Writer

- Original Message -
*From:* Alan Lemly 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2019 4:52 PM
*Subject:* RE: An audio description question

The Ken Burns Country Music documentary contains 8 episodes in
season 1 which air on public television on Sunday through
Wednesday of this week and Sunday through Wednesday of next week
concluding on September 25th. This is based on my DirecTV
schedule for my local public television station so your viewing
dates could vary.

Peter Coyote narrates the program.

Alan Lemly

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Shirley Baker
*Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2019 4:25 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: An audio description question

I too watched the same show last night with audio description and
it was very good. The second part is coming on tonight and maybe
another night this week. I think it will also be on next Sunday
night but not absolutely certain of that.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Pbs is not doing a very good job with audio description these
days.

Complain to whomever you bought it through.

Also, are you saying you watched it live on TV with audio
description it worked?

It most certainly should be available then in what you purchased.

Double check the audio settings in whatever app you used to
watch the purchased copy to make sure there isn't another
place to enable it.

I'd be asking about a refund if it were me.

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



On Sep 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Craig Werner
mailto:coffeeb...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Perhaps if you wrote to the vendor, you might get
satisfaction based on an accessibility need.

Craig

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:56 PM Duane Steele
mailto:duanestee...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Thank you for your response.  In my case, while
watching on PBS, I had audio description.  But when I
was notified that the first episode was in my TV
library, I didn't have description.  I've already
purchased the season pass.  So I guess my personal
copy of this series will exclude audio description
even though it's available.

Peace & Blessings,

Duane L. Steele

Phone (276) 730-5194


On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola
mailto:fireka...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I don’t usually reply to these messages. However!
I feel very strongly about this. My husband and I
wanted to listen to this last night and we did
without the video description but you are
absolutely correct we wanted to know who it was
that was speaking at the time and to get some of
the information about the background scenes. It
looks like it’s going to be a great wonderful
excelle

RE: "Message Failed to Send"

[sherrywells1157]

I think it works on the retry because the message has been added to your 
message app.  

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

When I get the message that the text failed to send, I then double tap to 
re-try or cancel.  Usually it will go through on the re-try. 

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From the ViPhone List: Used Brailliant 40 for Sale

[David Goldfield]

>From Karl Smith ...

I have a lightly used Brailliant 40 with an Executive Products leather case. I 
am a Humanware dealer and this is a demo unit. I can sell it for $1,100.00 
including shipping in the US. If you have other questions please let me know. 
Thanks.

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FYI.   See below please.
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RE: [orbit-reader] 40 cell braille

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Re: An audio description question

[Penny Reeder]

Thanks for sharing this news. I am looking forward to checking it out.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 7:09 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> I discovered last night after listening to this program that there is an app 
> called PBS video to stream and listen to all things PBS.  So, I got curious 
> and downloaded the app on to my iPhone.  The ratings are terrible but I went 
> for it anyway.  The cool thing is that you don't have to sign in and if you 
> just go to current events or something like that, you can click on it and 
> there are all 8 episodes of the country music series, and you can play them 
> all right now.  If you have descriptive audio turned on, on your phone, which 
> I think it is by default, that even works when playing these.  How cool is 
> this?  I just wanted to let anyone know that is interested in this.  Take 
> care.
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
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>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Alan Lemly
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 4:52 PM
> Subject: RE: An audio description question
> 
> The Ken Burns Country Music documentary contains 8 episodes in season 1 which 
> air on public television on Sunday through Wednesday of this week and Sunday 
> through Wednesday of next week concluding on September 25th. This is based on 
> my DirecTV schedule for my local public television station so your viewing 
> dates could vary.
>  
> Peter Coyote narrates the program.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: An audio description question
>  
> I too watched the same show last night with audio description and it was very 
> good. The second part is coming on tonight and maybe another night this week. 
> I think it will also be on next Sunday night but not absolutely certain of 
> that.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Pbs is not doing a very good job with audio description  these days.
> Complain to whomever you bought it through.
> Also, are you saying you watched it live on TV with audio description it 
> worked?
> It most certainly should be available then in what you purchased.
> Double check the audio settings in whatever app you used to watch the 
> purchased copy to make sure there isn't another place to enable it.
> I'd be asking about a refund if it were me.
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
>  
> 
> 
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Perhaps if you wrote to the vendor, you might get satisfaction based on an 
> accessibility need.
>  
> Craig
>  
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:56 PM Duane Steele  wrote:
> Thank you for your response.  In my case, while watching on PBS, I had audio 
> description.  But when I was notified that the first episode was in my TV 
> library, I didn't have description.  I've already purchased the season pass.  
> So I guess my personal copy of this series will exclude audio description 
> even though it's available.
>  
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola  wrote:
> 
> I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very strongly about 
> this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night and we did without 
> the video description but you are absolutely correct we wanted to know who it 
> was that was speaking at the time and to get some of the information about 
> the background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be a great wonderful 
> excellent Ken Burns special.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Hello Friends,
>  
> I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I have 
> audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought the 
> season pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country music, 
> the first episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" the program 
> with audio description.  The first episode is now in my TV library but 
> without audio description.  For the most part, I won't need it.  But it's 
> helpful to have when people are speaking and you're not sure who's speaking.  
> I should also mention that I ordered it in SD instead of HD because, as a 
> blind person, I don't need to own the high-definition format since I’m using 
> either an iPhone or iPod.  But if the audio description's only in the HD 
> version, shouldn't that have been made clear when I was making the purchase?  
> Any suggestions would be helpful.  But then, perhaps I just have to settle 
> for owning this excellent documentary without description.
>  
>  
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 

Fwd: [orbit-reader] 40 cell braille

[Jenny Bomareto]

FYI.   See below please.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: An audio description question

[Kay Malmquist]

I discovered last night after listening to this program that there is an app 
called PBS video to stream and listen to all things PBS.  So, I got curious 
and downloaded the app on to my iPhone.  The ratings are terrible but I went 
for it anyway.  The cool thing is that you don't have to sign in and if you 
just go to current events or something like that, you can click on it and 
there are all 8 episodes of the country music series, and you can play them 
all right now.  If you have descriptive audio turned on, on your phone, 
which I think it is by default, that even works when playing these.  How 
cool is this?  I just wanted to let anyone know that is interested in this. 
Take care.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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Paulo Coelho - Poet-Writer


  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 4:52 PM
  Subject: RE: An audio description question


  The Ken Burns Country Music documentary contains 8 episodes in season 1 
which air on public television on Sunday through Wednesday of this week and 
Sunday through Wednesday of next week concluding on September 25th. This is 
based on my DirecTV schedule for my local public television station so your 
viewing dates could vary.



  Peter Coyote narrates the program.



  Alan Lemly



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Shirley Baker
  Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 4:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: An audio description question



  I too watched the same show last night with audio description and it was 
very good. The second part is coming on tonight and maybe another night this 
week. I think it will also be on next Sunday night but not absolutely 
certain of that.

  Sent from my iPhone


  On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

Pbs is not doing a very good job with audio description these days.

Complain to whomever you bought it through.

Also, are you saying you watched it live on TV with audio description it 
worked?

It most certainly should be available then in what you purchased.

Double check the audio settings in whatever app you used to watch the 
purchased copy to make sure there isn't another place to enable it.

I'd be asking about a refund if it were me.



Richard



Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.







On Sep 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:

  

  Perhaps if you wrote to the vendor, you might get satisfaction based 
on an accessibility need.



  Craig



  On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:56 PM Duane Steele  
wrote:

Thank you for your response.  In my case, while watching on PBS, I 
had audio description.  But when I was notified that the first episode was 
in my TV library, I didn't have description.  I've already purchased the 
season pass.  So I guess my personal copy of this series will exclude audio 
description even though it's available.



Peace & Blessings,

Duane L. Steele

Phone (276) 730-5194


On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola  wrote:

  I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very 
strongly about this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night 
and we did without the video description but you are absolutely correct we 
wanted to know who it was that was speaking at the time and to get some of 
the information about the background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be 
a great wonderful excellent Ken Burns special.

  Sent from my iPhone


  On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Duane Steele 
 wrote:

Hello Friends,



I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you 
that I have audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I 
bought the season pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about 
country music, the first episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I 
"watched" the program with audio description.  The first episode is now in 
my TV library but without audio description.  For the most part, I won't 
need it.  But it's helpful to have when people are speaking and you're not 
sure who's speaking.  I should also mention that I ordered it in SD instead 
of HD because, as a blind person, I don't need to own the high-definition 
format since I’m using either an iPhone or iPod.  But if the audio 
description's only in the HD version, shouldn't that have been made clear 
when I was making the purchase?  Any suggestions would be helpful.  But 
then, perhaps I just have to settle for owning this excellent documentary 
without description.





Peace & Blessings,

Duane L. Steele

Phone (276) 730-5194

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Any accessible games for Apple Tv?

[Justin Harris]

Hello everyone,  
I hope you are all having a great day. Just wondering if there are any 
accessible games out there for Apple tv. I'm feeling pretty smart,  as I was 
able to get my siri remote to control my roku tv. I mean to control volume, 
turn on and off, etc. So, just curious as to what else I can do with this 
thing. I'm pretty happy with it. I've owned it for over a year now, but just 
now finally getting comfortable with it. 

Enviado desde mi iPhone

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Re: "Message Failed to Send"

[Dave]

it occasionally happens to me too. and i am on vodafone, in the UK.

Dave.


From: sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

I’m on Verizon.  So it appears this is not a carrier issue unless multiple 
carriers have the same problem.  Interesting that some of us seem to get a 
message not delivered notification but the message still went through.  In my 
case, and I have checked probably 20+ occurrences, the message was never 
delivered.  Now I just leave messages in the message app.  If I try to send to 
someone that I have sent a message to in the past & the message is still in my 
message app, it always goes through.

 

Also, several people have mentioned that they don’t have this problem if they 
don’t use Siri to send the message.  In my case, I have always used Siri.  I 
will have to try to type in a message to someone with an Android who has no 
message in my message app & see what happens.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I've got T-Mobile and this happens to  me as well. I'm not sure where the 
problem is coming from.

 

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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Re: An audio description question

[Holly]

The Ken Burns documentaries are often narrated by Peter Coyote.  He sounds very 
much like Peter Fonda, for those of us who are over a certain age.

I knew, of course, it couldn’t be him, because he has been long dead.

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Re: OT over the air antennas

[Andy Baracco]

Kim komando sells an indoor antenna on her site that has good reviews, for 
whatever that means.


www.komando.com

Andy
- Original Message - 
From: "Arlene" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: OT over the air antennas


We mount ours in either the attic or up on the ceiling. Of course it takes 
a bit of doing, but it does work without drop outs. It depends on the 
antena. the cheapest we have  is old cheap rabbit ears and they work well. 
For an outdoor antenna you might have to spend a little over $100 for a 
really good one.
- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" 

To: 
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Subject: Re: OT over the air antennas


My experience has been that indoor digital TV antennas are very suspect. 
Unlike analog signals, digital signals are either there, or they're not. 
They are not forgiving.
I know someone who had some success with this type of antenna when he 
stuck it out of an open window. He was lucky because the window happened 
to face in the direction of the TV transmitters, but there were several 
channels that he couldn't get.


If you insist on an indoor antenna try to find out where the TV 
transmitters are in relation to your home and place the antenna near to a 
window facing in that direction.  Also, place it as high in the room as 
possible.  If your dwelling has multiple stories, place the antenna as 
high in a room on the top story as possible.  Your best bet is an outdoor 
antenna placed on the roof, or on a mast that is above the roof or any 
trees.


Andy

- Original Message - 
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Subject: OT over the air antennas



Hi everyone,
I'm wanting to purchase an over the air antenna for my Insignia fire TV.
Can anyone give me some good recommendations for an antenna?  Thanks for 
any

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

[Susie Stageberg]

It has been suggested to me that what’s happening is that somehow my texts are 
failing to send as iMessages, but then the phone sends them as regular texts 
and they go through just fine. Why this should be I cannot say.

 

Susie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I have the same issue.  This seems to happen when I try to text those who do 
not have an IPhone.  Every single one I have investigated has an Android.  Once 
there is a text in the messages app, the next message seems to send just fine.  
So, for example, I send a message to ABC  & it fails.  I send it again & it 
works.  As long as I leave these messages in the message app, I can 
successfully send another message to ABC next week.  If I were to delete the 
messages from the message app, the whole process would start again.  

 

This is very annoying & I have not found a setting I can change to fix it.

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of nancy 
Lynn
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I’ve gotten the same message from my iPhone 7 when I’d send a text to someone 
in my contacts. I also text through Siri and don’t understand this problem. Can 
anyone explain?

Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com

From: Susie Stageberg   

Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:31 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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Re: "Message Failed to Send"

[Holly]

When I get the message that the text failed to send, I then double tap to 
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Re: OT over the air antennas

[Arlene]

We mount ours in either the attic or up on the ceiling. Of course it takes a 
bit of doing, but it does work without drop outs. It depends on the antena. 
the cheapest we have  is old cheap rabbit ears and they work well. For an 
outdoor antenna you might have to spend a little over $100 for a really good 
one.
- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: OT over the air antennas


My experience has been that indoor digital TV antennas are very suspect. 
Unlike analog signals, digital signals are either there, or they're not. 
They are not forgiving.
I know someone who had some success with this type of antenna when he 
stuck it out of an open window. He was lucky because the window happened 
to face in the direction of the TV transmitters, but there were several 
channels that he couldn't get.


If you insist on an indoor antenna try to find out where the TV 
transmitters are in relation to your home and place the antenna near to a 
window facing in that direction.  Also, place it as high in the room as 
possible.  If your dwelling has multiple stories, place the antenna as 
high in a room on the top story as possible.  Your best bet is an outdoor 
antenna placed on the roof, or on a mast that is above the roof or any 
trees.


Andy

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 10:11 AM
Subject: OT over the air antennas



Hi everyone,
I'm wanting to purchase an over the air antenna for my Insignia fire TV.
Can anyone give me some good recommendations for an antenna?  Thanks for 
any

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Re: An audio description question

[Patti Johnson]

I had audio description turned on, when I watched last night, but it
wasn't working.  But my pbs station tencs to do this.  I have been
watching Downton Abbey and they do repeat the episode and the first
showing of a particular episode may not be described, but the repeat
of it will be.
Hope that makes sense.
Patti

On 9/16/19, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> The Ken Burns Country Music documentary contains 8 episodes in season 1
> which air on public television on Sunday through Wednesday of this week and
> Sunday through Wednesday of next week concluding on September 25th. This is
> based on my DirecTV schedule for my local public television station so your
> viewing dates could vary.
>
>
>
> Peter Coyote narrates the program.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Shirley Baker
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: An audio description question
>
>
>
> I too watched the same show last night with audio description and it was
> very good. The second part is coming on tonight and maybe another night this
> week. I think it will also be on next Sunday night but not absolutely
> certain of that.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
> Pbs is not doing a very good job with audio description these days.
>
> Complain to whomever you bought it through.
>
> Also, are you saying you watched it live on TV with audio description it
> worked?
>
> It most certainly should be available then in what you purchased.
>
> Double check the audio settings in whatever app you used to watch the
> purchased copy to make sure there isn't another place to enable it.
>
> I'd be asking about a refund if it were me.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Perhaps if you wrote to the vendor, you might get satisfaction based on an
> accessibility need.
>
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:56 PM Duane Steele 
> wrote:
>
> Thank you for your response.  In my case, while watching on PBS, I had audio
> description.  But when I was notified that the first episode was in my TV
> library, I didn't have description.  I've already purchased the season pass.
>  So I guess my personal copy of this series will exclude audio description
> even though it's available.
>
>
>
> Peace & Blessings,
>
> Duane L. Steele
>
> Phone (276) 730-5194
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola  wrote:
>
> I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very strongly about
> this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night and we did
> without the video description but you are absolutely correct we wanted to
> know who it was that was speaking at the time and to get some of the
> information about the background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be a
> great wonderful excellent Ken Burns special.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>
> Hello Friends,
>
>
>
> I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I have
> audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought the
> season pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country music,
> the first episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" the program
> with audio description.  The first episode is now in my TV library but
> without audio description.  For the most part, I won't need it.  But it's
> helpful to have when people are speaking and you're not sure who's speaking.
>  I should also mention that I ordered it in SD instead of HD because, as a
> blind person, I don't need to own the high-definition format since I’m using
> either an iPhone or iPod.  But if the audio description's only in the HD
> version, shouldn't that have been made clear when I was making the purchase?
>  Any suggestions would be helpful.  But then, perhaps I just have to settle
> for owning this excellent documentary without description.
>
>
>
>
>
> Peace & Blessings,
>
> Duane L. Steele
>
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RE: An audio description question

[Alan Lemly]

The Ken Burns Country Music documentary contains 8 episodes in season 1 which 
air on public television on Sunday through Wednesday of this week and Sunday 
through Wednesday of next week concluding on September 25th. This is based on 
my DirecTV schedule for my local public television station so your viewing 
dates could vary.

 

Peter Coyote narrates the program.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shirley Baker
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An audio description question

 

I too watched the same show last night with audio description and it was very 
good. The second part is coming on tonight and maybe another night this week. I 
think it will also be on next Sunday night but not absolutely certain of that.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Pbs is not doing a very good job with audio description these days. 

Complain to whomever you bought it through.

Also, are you saying you watched it live on TV with audio description it worked?

It most certainly should be available then in what you purchased.

Double check the audio settings in whatever app you used to watch the purchased 
copy to make sure there isn't another place to enable it.

I'd be asking about a refund if it were me.

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 





On Sep 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:

 

Perhaps if you wrote to the vendor, you might get satisfaction based on an 
accessibility need.

 

Craig

 

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:56 PM Duane Steele  wrote:

Thank you for your response.  In my case, while watching on PBS, I had audio 
description.  But when I was notified that the first episode was in my TV 
library, I didn't have description.  I've already purchased the season pass.  
So I guess my personal copy of this series will exclude audio description even 
though it's available. 

 

Peace & Blessings, 

Duane L. Steele

Phone (276) 730-5194


On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola  wrote:

I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very strongly about 
this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night and we did without 
the video description but you are absolutely correct we wanted to know who it 
was that was speaking at the time and to get some of the information about the 
background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be a great wonderful excellent 
Ken Burns special.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

Hello Friends,

 

I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I have 
audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought the season 
pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country music, the first 
episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" the program with audio 
description.  The first episode is now in my TV library but without audio 
description.  For the most part, I won't need it.  But it's helpful to have 
when people are speaking and you're not sure who's speaking.  I should also 
mention that I ordered it in SD instead of HD because, as a blind person, I 
don't need to own the high-definition format since I’m using either an iPhone 
or iPod.  But if the audio description's only in the HD version, shouldn't that 
have been made clear when I was making the purchase?  Any suggestions would be 
helpful.  But then, perhaps I just have to settle for owning this excellent 
documentary without description.

 

 

Peace & Blessings, 

Duane L. Steele

Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

This never happened to me when I had Verizon, but then I recently updated to 
12.4 and this might be another one of those odd misfires.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I’m on Verizon.  So it appears this is not a carrier issue unless multiple 
carriers have the same problem.  Interesting that some of us seem to get a 
message not delivered notification but the message still went through.  In my 
case, and I have checked probably 20+ occurrences, the message was never 
delivered.  Now I just leave messages in the message app.  If I try to send to 
someone that I have sent a message to in the past & the message is still in my 
message app, it always goes through.

 

Also, several people have mentioned that they don’t have this problem if they 
don’t use Siri to send the message.  In my case, I have always used Siri.  I 
will have to try to type in a message to someone with an Android who has no 
message in my message app & see what happens.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I've got T-Mobile and this happens to  me as well. I'm not sure where the 
problem is coming from.

 

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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Re: Blind square

[James English]

Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Could be very interesting; thank you.
>
> Karen
> At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
>>I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a
>>lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own
>>points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the
>>latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows
>>you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money
>>reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots
>>and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app
>>worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of
>>the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which
>>became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can
>>subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full
>>version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
>>However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US
>>and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New
>>Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South
>>America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the
>>Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as
>>African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for
>>those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest
>>denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and
>>they also offer a 2-week free trial.
>>I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy
>>if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to
>>distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of
>>the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian
>>Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was
>>using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used
>>automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the
>>bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an
>>angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if
>>you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the
>>back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set
>>vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:
>>
>>https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cash-reader-bill-identifier/id1344802905
>>
>>Regards,
>>Sieghard
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Re: "Message Failed to Send"

[Shirley Baker]

I very rarely use Siri to send a message but if I do, I still don't have a 
problem with sending messages. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:36 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m on Verizon.  So it appears this is not a carrier issue unless multiple 
> carriers have the same problem.  Interesting that some of us seem to get a 
> message not delivered notification but the message still went through.  In my 
> case, and I have checked probably 20+ occurrences, the message was never 
> delivered.  Now I just leave messages in the message app.  If I try to send 
> to someone that I have sent a message to in the past & the message is still 
> in my message app, it always goes through.
>  
> Also, several people have mentioned that they don’t have this problem if they 
> don’t use Siri to send the message.  In my case, I have always used Siri.  I 
> will have to try to type in a message to someone with an Android who has no 
> message in my message app & see what happens.
>  
> Sherry Wells
>  
> From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> I've got T-Mobile and this happens to  me as well. I'm not sure where the 
> problem is coming from.
>  
>  
> Deidre
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Susie Stageberg
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:32 PM
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> Subject: "Message Failed to Send"
>  
> Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) 
> and have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first 
> case, the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send 
> the message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. 
> (don’t know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)
>  
> What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
> itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it?
>  
> Susie
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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Sometimes the message does indeed send but not always. Perhaps there is a 
setting for timing out or canceling out the message if it will not send in a 
set period of time. This happens even when I send text messages to other i 
Phone users.
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

I get a notification too, when a message fails to send. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 4:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

If mine fails to send, i get a notification.
 
Dave.
 
 
From: Susie Stageberg   
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 7:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"
 

The message I sent today, through Siri, arrived despite the message. The other 
one I sent last week, on which I got the error message, I did manually.

 

So my conclusion is that this “failed to send” message is erroneous. An 
erroneous error message. Imagine that. I figure it can safely be ignored, 
except that if a message really does fail to send, how would we know?

 

Susie

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Scott
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I have had this problem as well. I just go in and do it manually. Unless 
there's a workaround that I don't know about. 

Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 

 


On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Susie Stageberg mailto:sstagebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 
plus?) and have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the 
first case, the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri 
send the message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. 
(don’t know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the 
phone itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

[Carolyn Arnold]

I get a notification too, when a message fails to send. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 4:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

If mine fails to send, i get a notification.
 
Dave.
 
 
From: Susie Stageberg   
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 7:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"
 

The message I sent today, through Siri, arrived despite the message. The other 
one I sent last week, on which I got the error message, I did manually.

 

So my conclusion is that this “failed to send” message is erroneous. An 
erroneous error message. Imagine that. I figure it can safely be ignored, 
except that if a message really does fail to send, how would we know?

 

Susie

 

 

 

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Wayne Scott
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I have had this problem as well. I just go in and do it manually. Unless 
there's a workaround that I don't know about. 

Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 

 


On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Susie Stageberg mailto:sstagebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 
plus?) and have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the 
first case, the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri 
send the message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. 
(don’t know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the 
phone itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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Re: "Message Failed to Send"

[Shirley Baker]

I am using Verizon but am using a 6S plus iPhone and don't have any of the 
problems you describe with messages.I have the latest update.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I have Consumer Cellular, have Siri do it, have some fail, one did today. I 
> don't know if the recipient got it, but I thanked yer for the banana 
> blueberry bread when I saw her at cards. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Susie Stageberg
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: "Message Failed to Send"
> 
> Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) 
> and have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first 
> case, the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send 
> the message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. 
> (don’t know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)
> 
> 
> 
> What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
> itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 
> 
> 
> 
> Susie
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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

[Carolyn Arnold]

I hope it helps me; I just checked and turned on SMS. Why wouldn't something 
like that be on as default? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Yes, Send as SMS is on.  I checked it when I first started having this problem. 
 Hopefully this may help others though.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Check your Settings, Messages, and make sure Send as SMS is turned on. This 
will send your texts as SMS messages when iMessage is unavailable.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I have the same issue.  This seems to happen when I try to text those who do 
not have an IPhone.  Every single one I have investigated has an Android.  Once 
there is a text in the messages app, the next message seems to send just fine.  
So, for example, I send a message to ABC  & it fails.  I send it again & it 
works.  As long as I leave these messages in the message app, I can 
successfully send another message to ABC next week.  If I were to delete the 
messages from the message app, the whole process would start again.  

 

This is very annoying & I have not found a setting I can change to fix it.

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
nancy Lynn
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I’ve gotten the same message from my iPhone 7 when I’d send a text to someone 
in my contacts. I also text through Siri and don’t understand this problem. Can 
anyone explain?

Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com  

From: Susie Stageberg   

Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:31 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

[Carolyn Arnold]

Oh, I know that the one I usually send to has an Android; I don't know what the 
one today has. 

Best regards,

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sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 1:30 PM
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Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

I have the same issue.  This seems to happen when I try to text those who do 
not have an IPhone.  Every single one I have investigated has an Android.  Once 
there is a text in the messages app, the next message seems to send just fine.  
So, for example, I send a message to ABC  & it fails.  I send it again & it 
works.  As long as I leave these messages in the message app, I can 
successfully send another message to ABC next week.  If I were to delete the 
messages from the message app, the whole process would start again.  

 

This is very annoying & I have not found a setting I can change to fix it.

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of nancy 
Lynn
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I’ve gotten the same message from my iPhone 7 when I’d send a text to someone 
in my contacts. I also text through Siri and don’t understand this problem. Can 
anyone explain?

Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com  

From: Susie Stageberg   

Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:31 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have a SE, and it has been happening, maybe since the last update or maybe 
the one before. At any rate, it is a fairly recent problem. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Wayne Scott
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

I have had this problem as well. I just go in and do it manually. Unless 
there's a workaround that I don't know about. 


Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Susie Stageberg mailto:sstagebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 
plus?) and have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the 
first case, the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri 
send the message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. 
(don’t know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the 
phone itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 



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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have Consumer Cellular, have Siri do it, have some fail, one did today. I 
don't know if the recipient got it, but I thanked yer for the banana blueberry 
bread when I saw her at cards. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

[sherrywells1157]

I’m on Verizon.  So it appears this is not a carrier issue unless multiple 
carriers have the same problem.  Interesting that some of us seem to get a 
message not delivered notification but the message still went through.  In my 
case, and I have checked probably 20+ occurrences, the message was never 
delivered.  Now I just leave messages in the message app.  If I try to send to 
someone that I have sent a message to in the past & the message is still in my 
message app, it always goes through.

 

Also, several people have mentioned that they don’t have this problem if they 
don’t use Siri to send the message.  In my case, I have always used Siri.  I 
will have to try to type in a message to someone with an Android who has no 
message in my message app & see what happens.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I've got T-Mobile and this happens to  me as well. I'm not sure where the 
problem is coming from.

 

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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Re: An audio description question

[Shirley Baker]

I too watched the same show last night with audio description and it was very 
good. The second part is coming on tonight and maybe another night this week. I 
think it will also be on next Sunday night but not absolutely certain of that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Pbs is not doing a very good job with audio description these days.
> Complain to whomever you bought it through.
> Also, are you saying you watched it live on TV with audio description it 
> worked?
> It most certainly should be available then in what you purchased.
> Double check the audio settings in whatever app you used to watch the 
> purchased copy to make sure there isn't another place to enable it.
> I'd be asking about a refund if it were me.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Perhaps if you wrote to the vendor, you might get satisfaction based on an 
>> accessibility need.
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:56 PM Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> Thank you for your response.  In my case, while watching on PBS, I had 
>>> audio description.  But when I was notified that the first episode was in 
>>> my TV library, I didn't have description.  I've already purchased the 
>>> season pass.  So I guess my personal copy of this series will exclude audio 
>>> description even though it's available.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>> Duane L. Steele
>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola  wrote:
>>> 
 I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very strongly 
 about this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night and we 
 did without the video description but you are absolutely correct we wanted 
 to know who it was that was speaking at the time and to get some of the 
 information about the background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be a 
 great wonderful excellent Ken Burns special.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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> Hello Friends,
> 
> I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I 
> have audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought 
> the season pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country 
> music, the first episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" 
> the program with audio description.  The first episode is now in my TV 
> library but without audio description.  For the most part, I won't need 
> it.  But it's helpful to have when people are speaking and you're not 
> sure who's speaking.  I should also mention that I ordered it in SD 
> instead of HD because, as a blind person, I don't need to own the 
> high-definition format since I’m using either an iPhone or iPod.  But if 
> the audio description's only in the HD version, shouldn't that have been 
> made clear when I was making the purchase?  Any suggestions would be 
> helpful.  But then, perhaps I just have to settle for owning this 
> excellent documentary without description.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

I've got T-Mobile and this happens to  me as well. I'm not sure where the 
problem is coming from.

 

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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Re: OT over the air antennas

[Keith Bierman]

What you describe is precisely the issue I tried to describe. When the
signal is barely strong enough*, it will seem to cut in and out (it's just
moving from "+1" to "0" based on any and all of the factors which cause
interference.

Some "antenna amplifiers" or "amplified antennas" can help with this ...
other times (as you note) it's positional (and you might need different
positions for different stations).

IF you have a signal strength meter you can observe this directly. Sadly,
most of us don't ... most antennas don't have one (understandable, as they
are more expensive than the antenna itself) and while TV's could easily
provide that interface, many don't ... or do but don't make it accessible).

*) that is, the signal is that much more powerful than the noise ...
Keith Bierman
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On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 3:06 PM Andy Baracco  wrote:

> They are there, or not has to do with how you tune to find the signal.  In
> the old days you could move the antenna around to find the sweet spot.
> Now, you can recieve a clear signal and a few seconds later it just
> disappears. Of course, it is still being transmitted, but its path to the
> receiver has somehow been disrupted.  often moving or turning the antenna
> does not result in getting the signal back.  The best you can do is to try
> to find an antenna location that gives you a clear path to the transmitter.
>
> Andy
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Keith Bierman 
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2019 1:58 PM
> *Subject:* Re: OT over the air antennas
>
> " digital signals are either there, or they're not."
>
> Well, yes and no. *All* signals are analog (even your "digital media"
> like a hard disk). Internally, what is sensed directly by the electronics
> is analog. We then convert the signal to digital ... for example we might
> sense "+3.4 volts" ... in a "5v circuit" that's going to read as a "1".
> 2.4v will read as a zero. The tricky cases are between 2.4 and 2.5v,
> especially if it is moving up and down rapidly   the *result* is
> going to a "zero or a one" which in the aggregate is going to result in
> your having a picture (sharp) or nothing ... rather than a fuzzy picture.
> (and yes, I know antennas aren't going to be simply measuring voltage ...).
>
> Whether you can get good signals inside your home will depend a lot on
>
>1. Where the transmitter is
>2. What's between you and the transmitter
>3. What your walls are made of (metal? plaster?? drywall???)
>4. What (if anything) in your house generates noise in those
>frequencies (think big electric motors, for example).
>
> it may be that you can get good results with careful placement, or you
> might not have a prayer. Even outdoor antennas aren't necessarily
> effective, or are effective only if/when pointed at the specific
> transmitter (really good antennas get around that by actually being a
> constellation of antennas internally ;>...your phone for example ;> ).
>
> Consumer grade antennas hardly ever provide any useful feedback, a few
> TV's do provide signal strength diagnostics (I haven't seen any with
> appropriate assistive support :<).
>
>
> Keith Bierman
> khb...@gmail.com
> 303 997 2749
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 2:24 PM Andy Baracco  wrote:
>
>> My experience has been that indoor digital TV antennas are very suspect.
>> Unlike analog signals, digital signals are either there, or they're not.
>> They are not forgiving.
>> I know someone who had some success with this type of antenna when he
>> stuck
>> it out of an open window. He was lucky because the window happened to
>> face
>> in the direction of the TV transmitters, but there were several channels
>> that he couldn't get.
>>
>> If you insist on an indoor antenna try to find out where the TV
>> transmitters
>> are in relation to your home and place the antenna near to a window
>> facing
>> in that direction.  Also, place it as high in the room as possible.  If
>> your
>> dwelling has multiple stories, place the antenna as high in a room on the
>> top story as possible.  Your best bet is an outdoor antenna placed on the
>> roof, or on a mast that is above the roof or any trees.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Wendy Alling" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 10:11 AM
>> Subject: OT over the air antennas
>>
>>
>> > Hi everyone,
>> > I'm wanting to purchase an over the air antenna for my Insignia fire TV.
>> > Can anyone give me some good recommendations for an antenna?  Thanks
>> for
>> > any
>> > help on this.  Please send replies off list.
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Re: OT over the air antennas

[Andy Baracco]

They are there, or not has to do with how you tune to find the signal.  In the 
old days you could move the antenna around to find the sweet spot.  Now, you 
can recieve a clear signal and a few seconds later it just disappears. Of 
course, it is still being transmitted, but its path to the receiver has somehow 
been disrupted.  often moving or turning the antenna does not result in getting 
the signal back.  The best you can do is to try to find an antenna location 
that gives you a clear path to the transmitter.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Keith Bierman 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 1:58 PM
  Subject: Re: OT over the air antennas


  " digital signals are either there, or they're not."


  Well, yes and no. All signals are analog (even your "digital media" like a 
hard disk). Internally, what is sensed directly by the electronics is analog. 
We then convert the signal to digital ... for example we might sense "+3.4 
volts" ... in a "5v circuit" that's going to read as a "1". 2.4v will read as a 
zero. The tricky cases are between 2.4 and 2.5v, especially if it is moving up 
and down rapidly   the result is going to a "zero or a one" which in the 
aggregate is going to result in your having a picture (sharp) or nothing ... 
rather than a fuzzy picture. (and yes, I know antennas aren't going to be 
simply measuring voltage ...).


  Whether you can get good signals inside your home will depend a lot on
1.. Where the transmitter is
2.. What's between you and the transmitter
3.. What your walls are made of (metal? plaster?? drywall???)
4.. What (if anything) in your house generates noise in those frequencies 
(think big electric motors, for example).
  it may be that you can get good results with careful placement, or you might 
not have a prayer. Even outdoor antennas aren't necessarily effective, or are 
effective only if/when pointed at the specific transmitter (really good 
antennas get around that by actually being a constellation of antennas 
internally ;>...your phone for example ;> ).


  Consumer grade antennas hardly ever provide any useful feedback, a few TV's 
do provide signal strength diagnostics (I haven't seen any with appropriate 
assistive support :<). 




  Keith Bierman
  khb...@gmail.com
  303 997 2749




  On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 2:24 PM Andy Baracco  wrote:

My experience has been that indoor digital TV antennas are very suspect. 
Unlike analog signals, digital signals are either there, or they're not. 
They are not forgiving.
I know someone who had some success with this type of antenna when he stuck 
it out of an open window. He was lucky because the window happened to face 
in the direction of the TV transmitters, but there were several channels 
that he couldn't get.

If you insist on an indoor antenna try to find out where the TV 
transmitters 
are in relation to your home and place the antenna near to a window facing 
in that direction.  Also, place it as high in the room as possible.  If 
your 
dwelling has multiple stories, place the antenna as high in a room on the 
top story as possible.  Your best bet is an outdoor antenna placed on the 
roof, or on a mast that is above the roof or any trees.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Wendy Alling" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 10:11 AM
Subject: OT over the air antennas


> Hi everyone,
> I'm wanting to purchase an over the air antenna for my Insignia fire TV.
> Can anyone give me some good recommendations for an antenna?  Thanks for 
> any
> help on this.  Please send replies off list.
>
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Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

[Gordon]

A lot of people are doing that same thing with phones now to. With 
T-mobile you can jump to a new phone and they will start your payments 
over once the phone is half way paid off. I got in on this early on, so 
my plans lets me two it twice in a 12 month period no matter how much 
has been paid on the phone. This plan didn't hang around very long, but 
those of us who got it while it was offered were grandfathered into it 
and can keep it as long as we want.


On 9/16/2019 3:58 PM, lenron brown wrote:

Ha the people I know that get new cars every year lease them. They are
for sure not financing them. You would be upside down in the trade in
most likely.

On 9/16/19, Anthony Vece  wrote:

Some people buy new carsevery year.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!


On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:11 AM, Dave  wrote:

that is like saying, update your phone every year, whether or not you need
it, as the next phone will always get more updates.

I’m sure apple will love you.

Dave.


From: Marie
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 2:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Oh and the 8 will get one or two more IOS updates whereas the 11 will get
five or six.
Marie

From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Remember this is one opinion.
the 11 pro has longer battery life, faster processor, better camera
abilities (which may or may not benefit us) and the possibility of using
the coming Apple tags. There may be a few other improvements so if you
want the new phone and can afford it, I say, “Go for it!”
Marie


From: Fazil
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Thanks much for clearing my doubts!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Fazil, I thought you have an iPhone 8? If you do it is in my opinion a
waste of money to upgrade to the iPhone 11. Yes, you get Face Id and a
faster processor, maybe better battery as well, but apart from this there
isn’t anything the iPhone 11 has over my iPhone 8 which I want.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Fazil
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Hi, list.
I got a question about iPhone11-Pro & 11-ProMax.
If I get iPhone11 being a totally blind person, would I be  missing
anything from 11-Pro or ProMax?
My understanding is that the only difference is better cameras and video
in 11-Pro & ProMax which I am not worried about, why should I pay for
something that I don’t use?
Is there anything that I am missing in 11-Pro or ProMax?
Thanks!

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Re: OT over the air antennas

[Keith Bierman]

" digital signals are either there, or they're not."

Well, yes and no. *All* signals are analog (even your "digital media" like
a hard disk). Internally, what is sensed directly by the electronics is
analog. We then convert the signal to digital ... for example we might
sense "+3.4 volts" ... in a "5v circuit" that's going to read as a "1".
2.4v will read as a zero. The tricky cases are between 2.4 and 2.5v,
especially if it is moving up and down rapidly   the *result* is going
to a "zero or a one" which in the aggregate is going to result in your
having a picture (sharp) or nothing ... rather than a fuzzy picture. (and
yes, I know antennas aren't going to be simply measuring voltage ...).

Whether you can get good signals inside your home will depend a lot on

   1. Where the transmitter is
   2. What's between you and the transmitter
   3. What your walls are made of (metal? plaster?? drywall???)
   4. What (if anything) in your house generates noise in those frequencies
   (think big electric motors, for example).

it may be that you can get good results with careful placement, or you
might not have a prayer. Even outdoor antennas aren't necessarily
effective, or are effective only if/when pointed at the specific
transmitter (really good antennas get around that by actually being a
constellation of antennas internally ;>...your phone for example ;> ).

Consumer grade antennas hardly ever provide any useful feedback, a few TV's
do provide signal strength diagnostics (I haven't seen any with appropriate
assistive support :<).


Keith Bierman
khb...@gmail.com
303 997 2749


On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 2:24 PM Andy Baracco  wrote:

> My experience has been that indoor digital TV antennas are very suspect.
> Unlike analog signals, digital signals are either there, or they're not.
> They are not forgiving.
> I know someone who had some success with this type of antenna when he
> stuck
> it out of an open window. He was lucky because the window happened to face
> in the direction of the TV transmitters, but there were several channels
> that he couldn't get.
>
> If you insist on an indoor antenna try to find out where the TV
> transmitters
> are in relation to your home and place the antenna near to a window facing
> in that direction.  Also, place it as high in the room as possible.  If
> your
> dwelling has multiple stories, place the antenna as high in a room on the
> top story as possible.  Your best bet is an outdoor antenna placed on the
> roof, or on a mast that is above the roof or any trees.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wendy Alling" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 10:11 AM
> Subject: OT over the air antennas
>
>
> > Hi everyone,
> > I'm wanting to purchase an over the air antenna for my Insignia fire TV.
> > Can anyone give me some good recommendations for an antenna?  Thanks for
> > any
> > help on this.  Please send replies off list.
> >
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Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

[lenron brown]

Ha the people I know that get new cars every year lease them. They are
for sure not financing them. You would be upside down in the trade in
most likely.

On 9/16/19, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> Some people buy new carsevery year.
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
>
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:11 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>
>> that is like saying, update your phone every year, whether or not you need
>> it, as the next phone will always get more updates.
>>
>> I’m sure apple will love you.
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>> From: Marie
>> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 2:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>>
>> Oh and the 8 will get one or two more IOS updates whereas the 11 will get
>> five or six.
>> Marie
>>
>> From: Marie
>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 6:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>>
>> Remember this is one opinion.
>> the 11 pro has longer battery life, faster processor, better camera
>> abilities (which may or may not benefit us) and the possibility of using
>> the coming Apple tags. There may be a few other improvements so if you
>> want the new phone and can afford it, I say, “Go for it!”
>> Marie
>>
>>
>> From: Fazil
>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>>
>> Thanks much for clearing my doubts!
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>>
>> Fazil, I thought you have an iPhone 8? If you do it is in my opinion a
>> waste of money to upgrade to the iPhone 11. Yes, you get Face Id and a
>> faster processor, maybe better battery as well, but apart from this there
>> isn’t anything the iPhone 11 has over my iPhone 8 which I want.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Fazil
>> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 5:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>>
>> Hi, list.
>> I got a question about iPhone11-Pro & 11-ProMax.
>> If I get iPhone11 being a totally blind person, would I be  missing
>> anything from 11-Pro or ProMax?
>> My understanding is that the only difference is better cameras and video
>> in 11-Pro & ProMax which I am not worried about, why should I pay for
>> something that I don’t use?
>> Is there anything that I am missing in 11-Pro or ProMax?
>> Thanks!
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Re: OT over the air antennas

[Andy Baracco]

My experience has been that indoor digital TV antennas are very suspect. 
Unlike analog signals, digital signals are either there, or they're not. 
They are not forgiving.
I know someone who had some success with this type of antenna when he stuck 
it out of an open window. He was lucky because the window happened to face 
in the direction of the TV transmitters, but there were several channels 
that he couldn't get.


If you insist on an indoor antenna try to find out where the TV transmitters 
are in relation to your home and place the antenna near to a window facing 
in that direction.  Also, place it as high in the room as possible.  If your 
dwelling has multiple stories, place the antenna as high in a room on the 
top story as possible.  Your best bet is an outdoor antenna placed on the 
roof, or on a mast that is above the roof or any trees.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Wendy Alling" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 10:11 AM
Subject: OT over the air antennas



Hi everyone,
I'm wanting to purchase an over the air antenna for my Insignia fire TV.
Can anyone give me some good recommendations for an antenna?  Thanks for 
any

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Re: "Message Failed to Send"

[Holly]

Nancy:

I have only had this happen a couple of times, but both times it was an Android 
phone that did not get the message.  When I got the notice to re-try, I clicked 
on it and the message did go through.

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Re: "Message Failed to Send"

[Dave]

If mine fails to send, i get a notification.

Dave.


From: Susie Stageberg 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 7:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

The message I sent today, through Siri, arrived despite the message. The other 
one I sent last week, on which I got the error message, I did manually.

 

So my conclusion is that this “failed to send” message is erroneous. An 
erroneous error message. Imagine that. I figure it can safely be ignored, 
except that if a message really does fail to send, how would we know?

 

Susie

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Scott
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I have had this problem as well. I just go in and do it manually. Unless 
there's a workaround that I don't know about. 

Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 

 


On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Susie Stageberg  wrote:

  Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) 
and have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first 
case, the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

   

  What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

   

  Susie

   

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Re: "Message Failed to Send"

[Dave]

Mine is on, and i get the same issue.

Dave.


From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

Check your Settings, Messages, and make sure Send as SMS is turned on. This 
will send your texts as SMS messages when iMessage is unavailable.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I have the same issue.  This seems to happen when I try to text those who do 
not have an IPhone.  Every single one I have investigated has an Android.  Once 
there is a text in the messages app, the next message seems to send just fine.  
So, for example, I send a message to ABC  & it fails.  I send it again & it 
works.  As long as I leave these messages in the message app, I can 
successfully send another message to ABC next week.  If I were to delete the 
messages from the message app, the whole process would start again.  

 

This is very annoying & I have not found a setting I can change to fix it.

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of nancy 
Lynn
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I’ve gotten the same message from my iPhone 7 when I’d send a text to someone 
in my contacts. I also text through Siri and don’t understand this problem. Can 
anyone explain?

Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com

From: Susie Stageberg 

Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:31 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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Re: An audio description question

[Duane Steele]

I bought it through the iTunes store on Friday.  When I received my bill for 
it, I tried to go to where you report a problem and had difficulty even signing 
in.  I finally gave up.  We watched it using a friend's iPad and the PBS APP.  
Audio description's turned on in Settings, and when  I started playing the 
video, I checked where it said captioning and audio and found nothing to 
indicate that it wasn't working.  I only wish there was a number to call to 
actually speak to someone.  Thanks for all the helpful suggestions.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Pbs is not doing a very good job with audio description these days.
> Complain to whomever you bought it through.
> Also, are you saying you watched it live on TV with audio description it 
> worked?
> It most certainly should be available then in what you purchased.
> Double check the audio settings in whatever app you used to watch the 
> purchased copy to make sure there isn't another place to enable it.
> I'd be asking about a refund if it were me.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Perhaps if you wrote to the vendor, you might get satisfaction based on an 
>> accessibility need.
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:56 PM Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> Thank you for your response.  In my case, while watching on PBS, I had 
>>> audio description.  But when I was notified that the first episode was in 
>>> my TV library, I didn't have description.  I've already purchased the 
>>> season pass.  So I guess my personal copy of this series will exclude audio 
>>> description even though it's available.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>> Duane L. Steele
>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola  wrote:
>>> 
 I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very strongly 
 about this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night and we 
 did without the video description but you are absolutely correct we wanted 
 to know who it was that was speaking at the time and to get some of the 
 information about the background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be a 
 great wonderful excellent Ken Burns special.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
 
> Hello Friends,
> 
> I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I 
> have audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought 
> the season pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country 
> music, the first episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" 
> the program with audio description.  The first episode is now in my TV 
> library but without audio description.  For the most part, I won't need 
> it.  But it's helpful to have when people are speaking and you're not 
> sure who's speaking.  I should also mention that I ordered it in SD 
> instead of HD because, as a blind person, I don't need to own the 
> high-definition format since I’m using either an iPhone or iPod.  But if 
> the audio description's only in the HD version, shouldn't that have been 
> made clear when I was making the purchase?  Any suggestions would be 
> helpful.  But then, perhaps I just have to settle for owning this 
> excellent documentary without description.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
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> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: Twitter

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Steve,

Yes, you can double tap on the button in the top right hand corner. This will 
open a dialog window and allow you to switch between the Home view and latest 
tweets.

I hope this helps,

Ed W.

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Cook, Steve  wrote:
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> Hi All, 
> 
> I am using the regular Twitter app.  Is their a way when I open the app where 
> the most current Tweets always show up at the top?  Thanks in advance!
> 
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Re: An audio description question

[Richard Turner]

Pbs is not doing a very good job with audio description these days.
Complain to whomever you bought it through.
Also, are you saying you watched it live on TV with audio description it worked?
It most certainly should be available then in what you purchased.
Double check the audio settings in whatever app you used to watch the purchased 
copy to make sure there isn't another place to enable it.
I'd be asking about a refund if it were me.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:


Perhaps if you wrote to the vendor, you might get satisfaction based on an 
accessibility need.

Craig

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:56 PM Duane Steele 
mailto:duanestee...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thank you for your response.  In my case, while watching on PBS, I had audio 
description.  But when I was notified that the first episode was in my TV 
library, I didn't have description.  I've already purchased the season pass.  
So I guess my personal copy of this series will exclude audio description even 
though it's available.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola 
mailto:fireka...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very strongly about 
this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night and we did without 
the video description but you are absolutely correct we wanted to know who it 
was that was speaking at the time and to get some of the information about the 
background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be a great wonderful excellent 
Ken Burns special.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Duane Steele 
mailto:duanestee...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello Friends,


I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I have 
audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought the season 
pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country music, the first 
episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" the program with audio 
description.  The first episode is now in my TV library but without audio 
description.  For the most part, I won't need it.  But it's helpful to have 
when people are speaking and you're not sure who's speaking.  I should also 
mention that I ordered it in SD instead of HD because, as a blind person, I 
don't need to own the high-definition format since I’m using either an iPhone 
or iPod.  But if the audio description's only in the HD version, shouldn't that 
have been made clear when I was making the purchase?  Any suggestions would be 
helpful.  But then, perhaps I just have to settle for owning this excellent 
documentary without description.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: "Message Failed to Send"

[stewart]

funny.?? my brother has an android phone and it is he that i was texting 
and who?? my messages failed to send.


On 9/16/2019 2:20 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:


Since most of these messages are not imessages and are being sent to 
android phones, I think it is a problem with the carrier. ??I might be 
wrong, but I think the failure to send message comes from the carrier. 
??The only exception to this would be if you have a weak cell signal 
and the message can not be sent for this reason.
Most of my messages do go through to my contacts with an android 
phone, the thing I have never been able to do is to text multiple 
people together that have android phones. ??If I send the messages 
individually, they go just fine, but if I do a single message to 
multiple android contacts, it never goes through.


Not sure what causes the problem, but I do wish that it would be fixed.

Chris


On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:09 PM, > > wrote:


*Interesting ??? none of my fail to send messages made it to the 
recipient.?? An inconsistent bug is always harder to resolve!*


**

*Sherry Wells*

**

**

**

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Susie Stageberg

*Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2019 2:07 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: "Message Failed to Send"

The message I sent today, through Siri, arrived despite the message. 
The other one I sent last week, on which I got the error message, I 
did manually.


So my conclusion is that this ???failed to send??? message is erroneous. 
An erroneous error message. Imagine that. I figure it can safely be 
ignored, except that if a message really does fail to send, how would 
we know?


Susie

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Wayne Scott

*Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2019 11:53 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: "Message Failed to Send"

I have had this problem as well. I just go in and do it manually. 
Unless there's a workaround that I don't know about.


Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Susie Stageberg > wrote:


Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone
(7 plus?) and have gotten back a message saying ???message failed
to send.??? In the first case, the message was indeed sent, as I
got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the message, to someone in my
contacts, and still got the error message. (don???t know yet
whether recipient got the message sent today.)

What???s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular)
or the phone itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it?

Susie

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Re: "Message Failed to Send"

[Chris Chaffin]

Since most of these messages are not imessages and are being sent to android 
phones, I think it is a problem with the carrier.  I might be wrong, but I 
think the failure to send message comes from the carrier.  The only exception 
to this would be if you have a weak cell signal and the message can not be sent 
for this reason.
Most of my messages do go through to my contacts with an android phone, the 
thing I have never been able to do is to text multiple people together that 
have android phones.  If I send the messages individually, they go just fine, 
but if I do a single message to multiple android contacts, it never goes 
through.

Not sure what causes the problem, but I do wish that it would be fixed.

Chris


> On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:09 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting – none of my fail to send messages made it to the recipient.  An 
> inconsistent bug is always harder to resolve!
>  
> Sherry Wells
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Susie 
> Stageberg
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 2:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"
>  
> The message I sent today, through Siri, arrived despite the message. The 
> other one I sent last week, on which I got the error message, I did manually.
>  
> So my conclusion is that this “failed to send” message is erroneous. An 
> erroneous error message. Imagine that. I figure it can safely be ignored, 
> except that if a message really does fail to send, how would we know?
>  
> Susie
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Scott
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"
>  
> I have had this problem as well. I just go in and do it manually. Unless 
> there's a workaround that I don't know about. 
> 
> Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
>  
> 
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
> 
> Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) 
> and have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first 
> case, the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send 
> the message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. 
> (don’t know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)
>  
> What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
> itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it?
>  
> Susie
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Re: An audio description question

[Craig Werner]

Perhaps if you wrote to the vendor, you might get satisfaction based on an
accessibility need.

Craig

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:56 PM Duane Steele  wrote:

> Thank you for your response.  In my case, while watching on PBS, I had
> audio description.  But when I was notified that the first episode was in
> my TV library, I didn't have description.  I've already purchased the
> season pass.  So I guess my personal copy of this series will exclude audio
> description even though it's available.
>
>
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
>
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola  wrote:
>
> I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very strongly
> about this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night and we did
> without the video description but you are absolutely correct we wanted to
> know who it was that was speaking at the time and to get some of the
> information about the background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be a
> great wonderful excellent Ken Burns special.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>
> Hello Friends,
>
>
> I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I
> have audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought
> the season pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country
> music, the first episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" the
> program with audio description.  The first episode is now in my TV library
> but without audio description.  For the most part, I won't need it.  But
> it's helpful to have when people are speaking and you're not sure who's
> speaking.  I should also mention that I ordered it in SD instead of HD
> because, as a blind person, I don't need to own the high-definition format
> since I’m using either an iPhone or iPod.  But if the audio description's
> only in the HD version, shouldn't that have been made clear when I was
> making the purchase?  Any suggestions would be helpful.  But then, perhaps
> I just have to settle for owning this excellent documentary without
> description.
>
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Re: "Message Failed to Send"

[nancy Lynn]

That’s interesting. The friend I was trying to text also has an android phone. 
I’ll have to experiment sometime.

Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com

From: sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

I have the same issue.  This seems to happen when I try to text those who do 
not have an IPhone.  Every single one I have investigated has an Android.  Once 
there is a text in the messages app, the next message seems to send just fine.  
So, for example, I send a message to ABC  & it fails.  I send it again & it 
works.  As long as I leave these messages in the message app, I can 
successfully send another message to ABC next week.  If I were to delete the 
messages from the message app, the whole process would start again.  

 

This is very annoying & I have not found a setting I can change to fix it.

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of nancy 
Lynn
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I’ve gotten the same message from my iPhone 7 when I’d send a text to someone 
in my contacts. I also text through Siri and don’t understand this problem. Can 
anyone explain?

Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com

From: Susie Stageberg 

Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:31 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

[sherrywells1157]

Interesting – none of my fail to send messages made it to the recipient.  An 
inconsistent bug is always harder to resolve!

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Susie 
Stageberg
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

The message I sent today, through Siri, arrived despite the message. The other 
one I sent last week, on which I got the error message, I did manually.

 

So my conclusion is that this “failed to send” message is erroneous. An 
erroneous error message. Imagine that. I figure it can safely be ignored, 
except that if a message really does fail to send, how would we know?

 

Susie

 

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Scott
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I have had this problem as well. I just go in and do it manually. Unless 
there's a workaround that I don't know about. 

Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 

 


On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Susie Stageberg mailto:sstagebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for Blind and Low Vision Users | AppleVis

[Justin Harris]

> I haven't experienced that one. I have been running the beta from almost day 
> one. Actually the first two were so buggy that I had to do a restore and 
> downgrade in iTunes. I removed the beta profile when they started coming out 
> with 13.1, as I no longer have the developer account. Hoping it will still 
> give me the upgrade to 13.0 stable.
> I haven't noticed too many bugs in the last 13.0 beta I got.
> 
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
> 
> El 09/16/2019, a la(s) 11:52 a. m., lenron brown  
> escribió:
> 
> I hate the one that kills voice over for me after a call a lot of the
> time. I wondered if it was just my phone but this only popped up a few
> days ago.
> 
> On 9/16/19, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> Yeah,and give VoiceOver some love and care in Catolina while they're at it.
> 
> 
> On 9/15/2019 12:36 PM, CrazyEyez wrote:
> Man apple people who write code for this software need to lose their
> jobs.
> Each and every one of them.
> There's no excuse for all these bugs.
> Lay off the drugs.I don't understand how they can release this garbage.
> Get rid of the useless dead weight, and find people who actually know
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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

[Susie Stageberg]

The message I sent today, through Siri, arrived despite the message. The other 
one I sent last week, on which I got the error message, I did manually.

 

So my conclusion is that this “failed to send” message is erroneous. An 
erroneous error message. Imagine that. I figure it can safely be ignored, 
except that if a message really does fail to send, how would we know?

 

Susie

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Scott
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I have had this problem as well. I just go in and do it manually. Unless 
there's a workaround that I don't know about. 

Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 

 


On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Susie Stageberg  wrote:

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

[sherrywells1157]

Yes, Send as SMS is on.  I checked it when I first started having this problem. 
 Hopefully this may help others though.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Check your Settings, Messages, and make sure Send as SMS is turned on. This 
will send your texts as SMS messages when iMessage is unavailable.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I have the same issue.  This seems to happen when I try to text those who do 
not have an IPhone.  Every single one I have investigated has an Android.  Once 
there is a text in the messages app, the next message seems to send just fine.  
So, for example, I send a message to ABC  & it fails.  I send it again & it 
works.  As long as I leave these messages in the message app, I can 
successfully send another message to ABC next week.  If I were to delete the 
messages from the message app, the whole process would start again.  

 

This is very annoying & I have not found a setting I can change to fix it.

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
nancy Lynn
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I’ve gotten the same message from my iPhone 7 when I’d send a text to someone 
in my contacts. I also text through Siri and don’t understand this problem. Can 
anyone explain?

Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com  

From: Susie Stageberg   

Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:31 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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Re: An audio description question

[Duane Steele]

Thank you for your response.  In my case, while watching on PBS, I had audio 
description.  But when I was notified that the first episode was in my TV 
library, I didn't have description.  I've already purchased the season pass.  
So I guess my personal copy of this series will exclude audio description even 
though it's available.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:38 PM, viola  wrote:
> 
> I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very strongly about 
> this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night and we did without 
> the video description but you are absolutely correct we wanted to know who it 
> was that was speaking at the time and to get some of the information about 
> the background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be a great wonderful 
> excellent Ken Burns special.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Friends,
>> 
>> I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I have 
>> audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought the 
>> season pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country music, 
>> the first episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" the program 
>> with audio description.  The first episode is now in my TV library but 
>> without audio description.  For the most part, I won't need it.  But it's 
>> helpful to have when people are speaking and you're not sure who's speaking. 
>>  I should also mention that I ordered it in SD instead of HD because, as a 
>> blind person, I don't need to own the high-definition format since I’m using 
>> either an iPhone or iPod.  But if the audio description's only in the HD 
>> version, shouldn't that have been made clear when I was making the purchase? 
>>  Any suggestions would be helpful.  But then, perhaps I just have to settle 
>> for owning this excellent documentary without description.
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
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>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: New Member, and a Question

[Justin Harris]

> Hi there,
> Have you noticed any slow down of your phone? More specifically when you are 
> doing things that require data? I've had the lte not show up before but 
> things were running just fine. Unless you notice a major slow down, I 
> wouldn't worry.
> 
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
> 
> El 09/16/2019, a la(s) 12:19 p. m., Rebecca Degeorge 
>  escribió:
> 
> Wow! This is a busy list, and I'm glad to be subscribed to it! I've just 
> moved, and on the status bar of my phone, it used to say LTE, but now I don't 
> hear that and am wondering whether I ought to contact Straight Talk about it.
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Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for Blind and Low Vision Users | AppleVis

[Anthony Vece]

Well, I’m going to update as soon as possible.
Maybe I could help remove some bugs by making suggestions to Apple and their 
accessibility department.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Sep 15, 2019, at 3:30 PM, William Green  wrote:
> 
> I would personally recommend waiting at least a few weeks unless absolutely 
> necessary. 
> 
> No need to risk the chance of getting bugs when you can wait until the 
> software is more tested towards Christmas time.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Will 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 15 Sep 2019, at 20:27, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> You can wait providing that you do not have automatic updates enabled.
>>  
>> Andy
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Matthew Bullis
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for 
>> Blind and Low Vision Users | AppleVis
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>> Hello, if anyone feels like doing so, can you actually wait to upgrade from 
>> version 12 to 13.1, or do you need to upgrade to 13 first in order to then 
>> get the incremental update?
>> Thanks,
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Re: Lazarillo or BlindSquare

[Anthony Vece]

I remember when leaving Bluetooth turned on would deplete the battery much 
quicker.
However; it works just fine now and, I never turned Bluetooth off.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Sep 15, 2019, at 3:49 PM, William Green  wrote:
> 
> Just a quick one, I’ve read that having Bluetooth and WiFi enabled or your 
> device whilst using maps can vastly improve location services as the iPhone 
> can communicate with local WiFi networks and Bluetooth beacons to more 
> accurately find your position. 
> 
> It will not work in every situation however you may find better results by 
> leaving them switched on in control centre.
> 
> Will 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 15 Sep 2019, at 20:32, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm not sure if you can do it with apps, but you can do it with the Victor 
>> Reader Trek.
>> You might be able to do it with Nearby Explorer or Seeing Eye GPS.
>>  
>> Andy
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: Lazarillo or BlindSquare
>> 
>> and it begs a question here, because we both have Blind Square and like it. 
>> We live in a mobile home park, and it's absolutely crazy-making finding our 
>> way from point A to point Be in here. We wish to find an app that will allow 
>> us to drop bread crumbs so we know absolutely where we are at every given 
>> minute. It would be rather embarrassing to carry a cake to the wrong 
>> neighbor, or appear somewhere we should not, all ready to swim. The 
>> embarrassing scenario possibilities are endless. We've got lots of programs 
>> on our phones, Curt has his Trek, but we haven't yet found just the right 
>> thing. *sigh*(
>> 
>> Karen
>> At 08:35 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
>>> Can you set up as a point of interest areas otherwise not found on the maps 
>>>  in any of the free apps? Such as a specific building on a university 
>>> campus ?
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 15, 2019, at 9:21 AM, Richard Turner < richardturne...@outlook.com> 
 wrote:
 
 For those who do not want to pay $39.99 for Blind Square, take a look at 
 the free Lazarillo app. 
 It does not have the depth of features that Blind Square has; but it is a 
 good orientation app.
 If you want a walking route, you can get that from within Lazarillo.
 If you want a driving route, it can launch Google or Apple Maps I believe 
 and run in the background to tell you about streets or Points Of Interest.
 I turn off explore mode when first launching or it continues to talk about 
 places around you which interrupts hearing what you want in learning the 
 app.
 
 
 Richard 
 
 Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
 
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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

[Alan Lemly]

Check your Settings, Messages, and make sure Send as SMS is turned on. This 
will send your texts as SMS messages when iMessage is unavailable.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I have the same issue.  This seems to happen when I try to text those who do 
not have an IPhone.  Every single one I have investigated has an Android.  Once 
there is a text in the messages app, the next message seems to send just fine.  
So, for example, I send a message to ABC  & it fails.  I send it again & it 
works.  As long as I leave these messages in the message app, I can 
successfully send another message to ABC next week.  If I were to delete the 
messages from the message app, the whole process would start again.  

 

This is very annoying & I have not found a setting I can change to fix it.

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of nancy 
Lynn
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I’ve gotten the same message from my iPhone 7 when I’d send a text to someone 
in my contacts. I also text through Siri and don’t understand this problem. Can 
anyone explain?

Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com

From: Susie Stageberg   

Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:31 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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Re: An audio description question

[viola]

I don’t usually reply to these messages. However! I feel very strongly about 
this. My husband and I wanted to listen to this last night and we did without 
the video description but you are absolutely correct we wanted to know who it 
was that was speaking at the time and to get some of the information about the 
background scenes. It looks like it’s going to be a great wonderful excellent 
Ken Burns special.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
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> Hello Friends,
> 
> I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I have 
> audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought the 
> season pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country music, 
> the first episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" the program 
> with audio description.  The first episode is now in my TV library but 
> without audio description.  For the most part, I won't need it.  But it's 
> helpful to have when people are speaking and you're not sure who's speaking.  
> I should also mention that I ordered it in SD instead of HD because, as a 
> blind person, I don't need to own the high-definition format since I’m using 
> either an iPhone or iPod.  But if the audio description's only in the HD 
> version, shouldn't that have been made clear when I was making the purchase?  
> Any suggestions would be helpful.  But then, perhaps I just have to settle 
> for owning this excellent documentary without description.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

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I have the same issue.  This seems to happen when I try to text those who do 
not have an IPhone.  Every single one I have investigated has an Android.  Once 
there is a text in the messages app, the next message seems to send just fine.  
So, for example, I send a message to ABC  & it fails.  I send it again & it 
works.  As long as I leave these messages in the message app, I can 
successfully send another message to ABC next week.  If I were to delete the 
messages from the message app, the whole process would start again.  

 

This is very annoying & I have not found a setting I can change to fix it.

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of nancy 
Lynn
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I’ve gotten the same message from my iPhone 7 when I’d send a text to someone 
in my contacts. I also text through Siri and don’t understand this problem. Can 
anyone explain?

Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com  

From: Susie Stageberg   

Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:31 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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An audio description question

[Duane Steele]

Hello Friends,

I have an audio description question.  First, let me assure you that I have 
audio description turned on in settings.  That being said, I bought the season 
pass for the latest Ken Burns documentary series about country music, the first 
episode of which aired last night on PBS.  I "watched" the program with audio 
description.  The first episode is now in my TV library but without audio 
description.  For the most part, I won't need it.  But it's helpful to have 
when people are speaking and you're not sure who's speaking.  I should also 
mention that I ordered it in SD instead of HD because, as a blind person, I 
don't need to own the high-definition format since I’m using either an iPhone 
or iPod.  But if the audio description's only in the HD version, shouldn't that 
have been made clear when I was making the purchase?  Any suggestions would be 
helpful.  But then, perhaps I just have to settle for owning this excellent 
documentary without description.


Peace & Blessings,
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New Member, and a Question

[Rebecca Degeorge]

Wow! This is a busy list, and I'm glad to be subscribed to it! I've just 
moved, and on the status bar of my phone, it used to say LTE, but now I 
don't hear that and am wondering whether I ought to contact Straight 
Talk about it.



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Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

[Anthony Vece]

Some people buy new carsevery year.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:11 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> that is like saying, update your phone every year, whether or not you need 
> it, as the next phone will always get more updates.
>  
> I’m sure apple will love you.
>  
> Dave.
>  
>  
> From: Marie
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 2:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>  
> Oh and the 8 will get one or two more IOS updates whereas the 11 will get 
> five or six.
> Marie
>  
> From: Marie
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 6:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>  
> Remember this is one opinion.
> the 11 pro has longer battery life, faster processor, better camera abilities 
> (which may or may not benefit us) and the possibility of using the coming 
> Apple tags. There may be a few other improvements so if you want the new 
> phone and can afford it, I say, “Go for it!”
> Marie
>  
>  
> From: Fazil
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>  
> Thanks much for clearing my doubts!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>  
> Fazil, I thought you have an iPhone 8? If you do it is in my opinion a waste 
> of money to upgrade to the iPhone 11. Yes, you get Face Id and a faster 
> processor, maybe better battery as well, but apart from this there isn’t 
> anything the iPhone 11 has over my iPhone 8 which I want.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 5:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>  
> Hi, list.
> I got a question about iPhone11-Pro & 11-ProMax.
> If I get iPhone11 being a totally blind person, would I be  missing anything 
> from 11-Pro or ProMax?
> My understanding is that the only difference is better cameras and video in 
> 11-Pro & ProMax which I am not worried about, why should I pay for something 
> that I don’t use?
> Is there anything that I am missing in 11-Pro or ProMax?
> Thanks!
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OT over the air antennas

[Wendy Alling]

Hi everyone,
I'm wanting to purchase an over the air antenna for my Insignia fire TV.
Can anyone give me some good recommendations for an antenna?  Thanks for any
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Re: "Message Failed to Send"

[Wayne Scott]

I have had this problem as well. I just go in and do it manually. Unless 
there's a workaround that I don't know about. 

Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
> 
> Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) 
> and have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first 
> case, the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send 
> the message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. 
> (don’t know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)
>  
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> itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it?
>  
> Susie
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Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for Blind and Low Vision Users | AppleVis

[lenron brown]

I hate the one that kills voice over for me after a call a lot of the
time. I wondered if it was just my phone but this only popped up a few
days ago.

On 9/16/19, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> Yeah,and give VoiceOver some love and care in Catolina while they're at it.
>
>
> On 9/15/2019 12:36 PM, CrazyEyez wrote:
>> Man apple people who write code for this software need to lose their
>> jobs.
>> Each and every one of them.
>> There's no excuse for all these bugs.
>> Lay off the drugs.I don't understand how they can release this garbage.
>> Get rid of the useless dead weight, and find people who actually know
>> what they are doing.
>>
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Re: "Message Failed to Send"

[nancy Lynn]

I’ve gotten the same message from my iPhone 7 when I’d send a text to someone 
in my contacts. I also text through Siri and don’t understand this problem. Can 
anyone explain?
Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com
From: Susie Stageberg 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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"Message Failed to Send"

[Susie Stageberg]

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?)
and have gotten back a message saying "message failed to send." In the first
case, the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send
the message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message.
(don't know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What's up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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Re: Lazarillo or BlindSquare

['Dan' via VIPhone]

Hello,
What3Words isn't really accessible for VO users. It has a lot of unlabeled 
buttons and a few other places that don't appear to be accessible. Just for the 
heck of it, I gave it a try and promptly removed it.


Danny

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 8:01 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
>  
> The fact that What3Words uses 5 foot squares does not mean you get that 
> accuracy from your iPhone. I don’t think I have seen anything better than 3 
> metres which is about 10 feet. When I had my iPhone 4S in 2011 I at one point 
> bought a Garmin GPS receiver which was supposed to be better and even then 3 
> metres was the best I ever got under open skies. In cities between tall 
> buildings, under heavy cloud cover or under trees it maybe less and inside 
> buildings it is most likely even worse. It is my understanding that this also 
> is not because GPS isn’t capable of better accuracy but because the GPS 
> system is owned by the US military and they deliberately factor in a small 
> amount of inaccuracy for tactical reasons I assume.
> Glonas which is the Russian satellite network and which the iPhone also uses 
> I assume is no different, but utilizing both systems does help in terms of 
> how many satellites the receiver can lock on to and this in turn provides a 
> better and more reliable signal..
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 1:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lazarillo or BlindSquare
>  
> Just a thought here,
>  
> There is an app called "what3words" which is free and boasts a 5 foot gps 
> accuracy. It labels the whole of the land surface of the world, generates via 
> computer, three words, rather than numbers, for every 3 metre square, or 10 
> foot square approx. It will link to BlindSquare and other gps apps, so, try 
> it, it might just give you that bit more fine tuning.
>  
> Good luck with the cake delivery! Sandy. t b
> 
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
> 
> On 15 Sep 2019, at 18:55, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> and it begs a question here, because we both have Blind Square and like it. 
> We live in a mobile home park, and it's absolutely crazy-making finding our 
> way from point A to point Be in here. We wish to find an app that will allow 
> us to drop bread crumbs so we know absolutely where we are at every given 
> minute. It would be rather embarrassing to carry a cake to the wrong 
> neighbor, or appear somewhere we should not, all ready to swim. The 
> embarrassing scenario possibilities are endless. We've got lots of programs 
> on our phones, Curt has his Trek, but we haven't yet found just the right 
> thing. *sigh*(
> 
> Karen
> At 08:35 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
> 
> Can you set up as a point of interest areas otherwise not found on the maps  
> in any of the free apps? Such as a specific building on a university campus ?
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 15, 2019, at 9:21 AM, Richard Turner < richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> For those who do not want to pay $39.99 for Blind Square, take a look at the 
> free Lazarillo app. 
> It does not have the depth of features that Blind Square has; but it is a 
> good orientation app.
> If you want a walking route, you can get that from within Lazarillo.
> If you want a driving route, it can launch Google or Apple Maps I believe and 
> run in the background to tell you about streets or Points Of Interest.
> I turn off explore mode when first launching or it continues to talk about 
> places around you which interrupts hearing what you want in learning the app.
> 
> 
> Richard 
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RE: Lazarillo or BlindSquare

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Sandy,

The fact that What3Words uses 5 foot squares does not mean you get that 
accuracy from your iPhone. I don’t think I have seen anything better than 3 
metres which is about 10 feet. When I had my iPhone 4S in 2011 I at one point 
bought a Garmin GPS receiver which was supposed to be better and even then 3 
metres was the best I ever got under open skies. In cities between tall 
buildings, under heavy cloud cover or under trees it maybe less and inside 
buildings it is most likely even worse. It is my understanding that this also 
is not because GPS isn’t capable of better accuracy but because the GPS system 
is owned by the US military and they deliberately factor in a small amount of 
inaccuracy for tactical reasons I assume.
Glonas which is the Russian satellite network and which the iPhone also uses I 
assume is no different, but utilizing both systems does help in terms of how 
many satellites the receiver can lock on to and this in turn provides a better 
and more reliable signal..

Regards,
Sieghard

From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 1:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lazarillo or BlindSquare

Just a thought here,

There is an app called "what3words" which is free and boasts a 5 foot gps 
accuracy. It labels the whole of the land surface of the world, generates via 
computer, three words, rather than numbers, for every 3 metre square, or 10 
foot square approx. It will link to BlindSquare and other gps apps, so, try it, 
it might just give you that bit more fine tuning.

Good luck with the cake delivery! Sandy. t b
Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 15 Sep 2019, at 18:55, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
and it begs a question here, because we both have Blind Square and like it. We 
live in a mobile home park, and it's absolutely crazy-making finding our way 
from point A to point Be in here. We wish to find an app that will allow us to 
drop bread crumbs so we know absolutely where we are at every given minute. It 
would be rather embarrassing to carry a cake to the wrong neighbor, or appear 
somewhere we should not, all ready to swim. The embarrassing scenario 
possibilities are endless. We've got lots of programs on our phones, Curt has 
his Trek, but we haven't yet found just the right thing. *sigh*(

Karen
At 08:35 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:

Can you set up as a point of interest areas otherwise not found on the maps  in 
any of the free apps? Such as a specific building on a university campus ?


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2019, at 9:21 AM, Richard Turner < 
richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:


For those who do not want to pay $39.99 for Blind Square, take a look at the 
free Lazarillo app.
It does not have the depth of features that Blind Square has; but it is a good 
orientation app.
If you want a walking route, you can get that from within Lazarillo.
If you want a driving route, it can launch Google or Apple Maps I believe and 
run in the background to tell you about streets or Points Of Interest.
I turn off explore mode when first launching or it continues to talk about 
places around you which interrupts hearing what you want in learning the app.


Richard

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Re: Question about Power Beats Pro wireless headphones

[Jennie Facer]

> Hi Robin,
> 
> I have a set of PowerBeats Pro and don't have that trouble with them 
> remaining connected. They stay pretty well. i have a problem with them 
> charging, however. They don't always charge in the case. Hope this hels. 
> Other than that, Ilove them!
> 
> Jenn
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> Jenn and Kumi
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> On Sep 16, 2019, at 8:05 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:
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> 
> Hi,
>  
> I was wondering if anyone on the list had any experience with them and how 
> people liked using them in terms of comfort while
> wearing and connectivity. Reviews of them mentioned problems with remaining 
> connected I was wondering if anyone on this list who had used them had 
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Twitter

[Cook, Steve]

Hi All, 

I am using the regular Twitter app.  Is their a way when I open the app where 
the most current Tweets always show up at the top?  Thanks in advance!

Steve

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Question about Power Beats Pro wireless headphones

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone on the list had any experience with them and how 
people liked using them in terms of comfort while
wearing and connectivity. Reviews of them mentioned problems with remaining 
connected I was wondering if anyone on this list who had used them had 
encountered
similar, before contemplating purchasing them for myself. Thank you for all 
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Take good care.
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Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for Blind and Low Vision Users | AppleVis

[Steve Matzura]

Yeah,and give VoiceOver some love and care in Catolina while they're at it.


On 9/15/2019 12:36 PM, CrazyEyez wrote:
Man apple people who write code for this software need to lose their 
jobs.

Each and every one of them.
There's no excuse for all these bugs.
Lay off the drugs.I don't understand how they can release this garbage.
Get rid of the useless dead weight, and find people who actually know 
what they are doing.




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Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for Blind and Low Vision Users | AppleVis

[Steve Matzura]

Haha, and more introduced!


On 9/15/2019 12:09 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Yes I read through the bugs, and they don’t seem, for my use at least, 
too bad a game-changer. Thanks though for sharing. Good thing we’ll 
only have to wait 10 days for the iOS13.1 to come out, in which I’m 
sure most of these bugs will be resolved.


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel



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Re: Problem connecting to apple bookstore.

[Jenifer Barr]

Thanks Richard. I did try rebooting, and my intnet seems fine as I can do other 
things. I do appreciate you letting me know you could download. like

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Richard Turner  
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> I was just able to download a book from my library.
> Perhaps check your internet, or reboot your phone.
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>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 5:22 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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>> I'm trying to download a book I've pre-ordered that came out today. I keep 
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>> store's down in the US? 
>> Thanks
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Re: Problem connecting to apple bookstore.

[Richard Turner]

I was just able to download a book from my library.
Perhaps check your internet, or reboot your phone.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 16, 2019, at 5:22 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

Hi all.
I'm trying to download a book I've pre-ordered that came out today. I keep 
getting a message saying "cannot connect to bookstore." Anyone know if the 
store's down in the US?
Thanks
Jen like

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Problem connecting to apple bookstore.

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
I'm trying to download a book I've pre-ordered that came out today. I keep 
getting a message saying "cannot connect to bookstore." Anyone know if the 
store's down in the US? 
Thanks
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RE: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

[Robin]

this is True, but What about Apple's iPhone6 & 
iPhone6+, which Debuted  in September2014,   it 
ONLY received 4Years of iOS updates: 2015, 2016, 2017, & 2018


the iPhone5S wasn't a  GOOD Example of How Long 
Apple supports its Previous Models of the iPhone

At 06:30 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I think the iPhone 8 will get at least 2 and 
probably 3 more updates. It came out in 2017 
with iOS 11, last year it got iOS 12 and this year it is iOS 13.
I think it will get iOS 14 next year and iOS 15 
in 2020 and most likely it will get iOS 16 in 2021.
Think of the iPhone 5S, it came out in 2013 with 
iOS 7, in 2014 it got iOS 8, in 2015 it was iOS 
9, iOS 10 in 2016, iOS 11 in 2017 and iOS 12 
last year. It won’t get iOS 13 any more, but 
that is a total of 6 versions including the one 
it shipped with and 5 upgrades. The iPhone 8 
shipped with iOS 11 which means it only had 2 
upgrades now so if it also gets 5 upgrades it 
would be 3 more all the way to iOS 16 in 2022 
and only in the fall of 2023 it would not get 
iOS 17. Of course it could be one less which 
means it would not get iOS 16 in 2022 any more, 
but that still means 3 years of life with full 
support (of course less any features which are 
only supported by newer hardware such as 5G support in a few years.)
I guess the iPhone 6 did get one upgrade less 
since it came out a year after the 5S and iOS 12 
was also it’s last version, but one also needs 
to factor in that as the hardware and the OS 
mature, upgrades may not offer such drastic new 
features. Combine this with the desire of many 
users and companies to produce less garbage and 
use devices longer and it is not impossible that 
what are essentially relatively new devices now 
could be supported for an extra year..


Regards,
Sieghard.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Oh and the 8 will get one or two more IOS 
updates whereas the 11 will get five or six.

Marie

From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Remember this is one opinion.
the 11 pro has longer battery life, faster 
processor, better camera abilities (which may or 
may not benefit us) and the possibility of using 
the coming Apple tags. There may be a few other 
improvements so if you want the new phone and 
can afford it, I say, “Go for it!†
Marie



From: Fazil
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Thanks much for clearing my doubts!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Fazil, I thought you have an iPhone 8? If you do 
it is in my opinion a waste of money to upgrade 
to the iPhone 11. Yes, you get Face Id and a 
faster processor, maybe better battery as well, 
but apart from this there isn’t anything the 
iPhone 11 has over my iPhone 8 which I want.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Hi, list.
I got a question about iPhone11-Pro & 11-ProMax.
If I get iPhone11 being a totally blind person, 
would I be missing anything from 11-Pro or ProMax?
My understanding is that the only difference is 
better cameras and video in 11-Pro & ProMax 
which I am not worried about, why should I pay 
for something that I don’t use?

Is there anything that I am missing in 11-Pro or ProMax?
Thanks!

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Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for Blind and Low Vision Users | AppleVis

[Joshua Hendrickson]

For me and to just be sure, I'll not update until 13.1.  I checked and
my software automatic updates are currently turned off.

On 9/16/19, Dave  wrote:
> no there are 2 automatic update settings. 1 is for apps, and the other is
> for updating the firmware.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> From: Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 2:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Andy Baracco
> Subject: Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for
> Blind and Low Vision Users | AppleVis
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> I thought automatic updates just applied to apps and not to operating system
> updates.
>
>
>
> On 9/15/19 2:27 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
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>   You can wait providing that you do not have automatic updates enabled.
>
>   Andy
>
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:52 AM
> Subject: Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13
> for Blind and Low Vision Users | AppleVis
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> Hello, if anyone feels like doing so, can you actually wait to upgrade
> from version 12 to 13.1, or do you need to upgrade to 13 first in order to
> then get the incremental update?
> Thanks,
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Re: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

[Dave]

50 years, is quite a long time.

With the way, software can be hacked, and computers can malfunction, it will 
be a long time, before i get in sutch a car. especially if it is totally 
autonomous.


-Original Message- 
From: lenron brown

Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 3:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

Yeah sorry think you are wrong. Driverless cars are coming, and pretty
fast. In 50 years not as many people will drive unless they really
really want to. I worry about humans more than anything when it comes
to driving. I mean look at all the drunk driving and driving while
texting. It's going to be a thing insurance companies will either hate
or love.

On 9/15/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Whether it’s a good idea or not I don’t know, but it will come.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mary

Otten
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

Given the huge Thicket of liability that is going to surround fully
autonomous vehicles, I’m not sure that’s a good idea. The speed of
technology has quite simply outpaced the speed of human ability to adapt 
and
fully think through all of the consequences. Look around at machine 
learning

and AI, and tell me I’m wrong.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
It will make a huge difference in terms of technology in general. It will 
be
5G which will really enable fully autonomyous vehicles since that 
technology

cannot exist currently, there simply is not enough speed and bandwidth to
transmit the amounts of data required for vehicles to talk to each other 
and

the world. The different between LTE and 5G is sort of like the difference
between dial-up and highspeed interned, or maybe between the early 1 or 2 
Mb
download speed ADSL and Gigabit fiber networks. Once fully deployed it 
will

make an incredible difference in all aspects of technology and
connectivity.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

I agree with Mary.
4g came in around 2012.
It took several years before it became the standard, and 3g is only now
coming to an end in a year or so.
I'd be surprised if 5g is very widely available for at least 2 years; but
even then; how much difference will it really make?

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.




On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:57 PM, lenron brown
mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
They said the same thing about 4g.

On 9/14/19, Dave
mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I agree. It will be some time, before we get full roll out of 5G.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 11:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

I really don’t see what all the hype about 5G is about. And it’s going to
be

a very long time before it does much penetration outside of major urban
densely populated areas. Just my two cents. Maybe in another couple of
years

when my 10 R is three years old, I’ll see what’s around then. I just 
cannot


get excited about 5G, when there are parts of the country that have
nothing.


Sent from my iPhone

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Also they claim 5G is going to be ready by next fall.

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Don't know what will be released. But i think apple will have something
special, just to mark the date.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 6:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

What is it that is going to be released in 2020?

Best regards,

Carolyn


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Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

[Dave]

that is like saying, update your phone every year, whether or not you need it, 
as the next phone will always get more updates.

I’m sure apple will love you.

Dave.


From: Marie 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 2:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Oh and the 8 will get one or two more IOS updates whereas the 11 will get five 
or six.
Marie

From: Marie 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iPhone 11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Remember this is one opinion.
the 11 pro has longer battery life, faster processor, better camera abilities 
(which may or may not benefit us) and the possibility of using the coming Apple 
tags. There may be a few other improvements so if you want the new phone and 
can afford it, I say, “Go for it!”
Marie


From: Fazil 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Thanks much for clearing my doubts!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

 

Fazil, I thought you have an iPhone 8? If you do it is in my opinion a waste of 
money to upgrade to the iPhone 11. Yes, you get Face Id and a faster processor, 
maybe better battery as well, but apart from this there isn’t anything the 
iPhone 11 has over my iPhone 8 which I want.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

 

Hi, list.

I got a question about iPhone11-Pro & 11-ProMax.

If I get iPhone11 being a totally blind person, would I be missing anything 
from 11-Pro or ProMax?

My understanding is that the only difference is better cameras and video in 
11-Pro & ProMax which I am not worried about, why should I pay for something 
that I don’t use?

Is there anything that I am missing in 11-Pro or ProMax?

Thanks!

 

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Re: Lazarillo or BlindSquare

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

Just a thought here,

There is an app called "what3words" which is free and boasts a 5 foot gps 
accuracy. It labels the whole of the land surface of the world, generates via 
computer, three words, rather than numbers, for every 3 metre square, or 10 
foot square approx. It will link to BlindSquare and other gps apps, so, try it, 
it might just give you that bit more fine tuning.

Good luck with the cake delivery! Sandy. t b

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 15 Sep 2019, at 18:55, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
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> 
> and it begs a question here, because we both have Blind Square and like it. 
> We live in a mobile home park, and it's absolutely crazy-making finding our 
> way from point A to point Be in here. We wish to find an app that will allow 
> us to drop bread crumbs so we know absolutely where we are at every given 
> minute. It would be rather embarrassing to carry a cake to the wrong 
> neighbor, or appear somewhere we should not, all ready to swim. The 
> embarrassing scenario possibilities are endless. We've got lots of programs 
> on our phones, Curt has his Trek, but we haven't yet found just the right 
> thing. *sigh*(
> 
> Karen
> At 08:35 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
>> Can you set up as a point of interest areas otherwise not found on the maps  
>> in any of the free apps? Such as a specific building on a university campus ?
>>  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 15, 2019, at 9:21 AM, Richard Turner < richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
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>>> For those who do not want to pay $39.99 for Blind Square, take a look at 
>>> the free Lazarillo app. 
>>> It does not have the depth of features that Blind Square has; but it is a 
>>> good orientation app.
>>> If you want a walking route, you can get that from within Lazarillo.
>>> If you want a driving route, it can launch Google or Apple Maps I believe 
>>> and run in the background to tell you about streets or Points Of Interest.
>>> I turn off explore mode when first launching or it continues to talk about 
>>> places around you which interrupts hearing what you want in learning the 
>>> app.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard 
>>> 
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Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for Blind and Low Vision Users | AppleVis

[Dave]

no there are 2 automatic update settings. 1 is for apps, and the other is for 
updating the firmware.

Dave.


From: Christopher Chaltain 
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Subject: Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for Blind 
and Low Vision Users | AppleVis

I thought automatic updates just applied to apps and not to operating system 
updates.



On 9/15/19 2:27 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

  You can wait providing that you do not have automatic updates enabled.

  Andy

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Subject: Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for 
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Hello, if anyone feels like doing so, can you actually wait to upgrade from 
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the incremental update?
Thanks,
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