RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah because you are using pop rather than iMap

And your mail is being kept on the server,

So you download your mail on your computer and when you delete it after reading 
it
It’s still on the server so when you look at your phone it’s not yet been read,

And same with the Hotmail servers
Your mail still sits there and is waiting to be removed,

Any new device you look at your email on, it will show the mail you read on 
your mac mail,
And it will appear to be unread.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2021 3:37 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

Actually I seem to be having problems with my email account. I notice after I 
have read and deleted my emails using the Mail app on my Mac, I would have to 
go onto the hotmail site and delete my messages from there. Otherwise on my 
mail app on iPhone, my emails still appear and unread.



On Apr 16, 2021, at 8:53 AM, Mike B 
mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

Good morning Richard,

Where does one find the delete from server setting in the iPhone Mail app?  
Running iOS 14.4.2.  I haven't run across this setting and would like to.  
Thanks much.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

If your email on the phone is set as iMap, it will not remove them from the 
server unless you set it to remove from server when you delete it on your phone.
Easy answer, do your deleting on the computer.
If your phone is set to use Pop3, you can go into the settings and tell it to 
leave messages on the server.
HTH,


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

Hello. I have the mail client set up on my iphone and ipad to share articles 
from feeds with my wife. Can I keep it from fetching new mail while still doing 
this. I might want to see some messages on my computer where I do most of my 
interacting. If not, can I tell the IOS app not to delete the mail from the 
server.

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Re: An S E2020 Question

[Holly]

Wendy:

You don’t have to set a passcode for your phone, if you don’t want to.

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Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Wendy Lin]

Actually I seem to be having problems with my email account. I notice after I 
have read and deleted my emails using the Mail app on my Mac, I would have to 
go onto the hotmail site and delete my messages from there. Otherwise on my 
mail app on iPhone, my emails still appear and unread.


> On Apr 16, 2021, at 8:53 AM, Mike B  wrote:
> 
> Good morning Richard,
>  
> Where does one find the delete from server setting in the iPhone Mail app?  
> Running iOS 14.4.2.  I haven't run across this setting and would like to.  
> Thanks much.
>  
>  
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:37 AM
> Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device
> 
> If your email on the phone is set as iMap, it will not remove them from the 
> server unless you set it to remove from server when you delete it on your 
> phone.
> Easy answer, do your deleting on the computer.
> If your phone is set to use Pop3, you can go into the settings and tell it to 
> leave messages on the server.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Hello. I have the mail client set up on my iphone and ipad to share articles 
>> from feeds with my wife. Can I keep it from fetching new mail while still 
>> doing this. I might want to see some messages on my computer where I do most 
>> of my interacting. If not, can I tell the IOS app not to delete the mail 
>> from the server.
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Re: Apple getting cheap

[Wendy Lin]

Lol I don’t know how I’d feel switching over to Samsung myself since I’ve been 
an Apple user for many years.


> On Apr 16, 2021, at 3:24 AM, James English  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> The things that you've mentioned are not things I think about, because
> for the most part (pandemic, climate change, gun crime) I couldn't
> care less about them. I care about things that'll affect me, and
> having to pay extra money is one of those things.
> 
> On 4/16/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> Good points, there,
>> 
>> Yeah if people are really unhappy about apple dropping the power brick,
>> 
>> Go buy a Samsung,
>> 
>> Oh that's right they 'are dropping the charging bricks form their phones
>> also.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Cristobal Muñoz
>> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 3:19 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>> 
>> Again, I think folks are missing the point. No one's not going to not buy an
>> iPhone over a now no longer included wall charger.
>> It's that Apple's removed this accessory under the guise (and with likely
>> merit) of environmentalism when really, it's a way to cut down on cost from
>> manufacturing, sourcing materials to shipping (in those quantities, the
>> difference adds up quickly) and is still charging the same price. It's not
>> like they're getting out of the wall charger business. I mean, you can still
>> buy one from them. It's just another way for them to nibble around the
>> edges, get some good press and keep the same price. It comes off as chincy
>> from a brand that holds itself up as a luxury and consumer friendly company
>> .
>> But no... people would rather carry on like a scold while again, missing the
>> actual point.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria
>> Campbell
>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>> 
>> Stuff it!
>> 
>> 
>> Maria Campbell
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> 
>> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
>> --Edmund Burke
>> 
>> On 4/15/2021 7:59 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>> Yeah cheap,
>>> 
>>> So I'm guessing people didn't listen to tim cook when he said they
>>> were getting rid of the power bricks in the boxes for the devices,
>>> 
>>> It's not about being cheap,
>>> It's more to do with apple trying to get back in to the eco friendly
>>> world and save the planet from excess plastic  that we don't need to
>>> clutter our lives with,
>>> 
>>> Plus the fact that majority of the people around the planet who have
>>> had or have apple mobile devices already have a couple of charging
>>> bricks lying around and therefore those will still do the job they
>>> were made for,
>>> 
>>> So if you have one already,
>>> Why complain about them being left out of the box for a phone or iPad,
>>> 
>>> I really love how these serious first world problems bug you guys so
>>> much,
>>> 
>>> Imagine if we had real problems around the planet like a pendemic
>>> virus and millions dying,
>>> 
>>> But you guys get upset because apple leave a $20 peace of plastic shit out
>>> of a box.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> lenron brown
>>> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 7:18 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>>> 
>>> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't for get
>>> the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, and airpods
>>> when they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them not putting them
>>> in the box.
>>> 
>>> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
 Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw where
 Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them or
 Google with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just
 don’t need all this extra crap going out into the environment. I have
 an iPad charger from a really old iPad mini that still works just
 fine. And of course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a USB see
 power block which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It didn’t exactly
 break the bank.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz
> 
> wrote:
> 
> I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and
> accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I
> also definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a
> convenient and specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut
> the cost of production and logistics and still charge the same under
> the cover of being environmentally conscious.
> Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is
> going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of
> buying an iPhone. Just more nickel and 

Re: An S E2020 Question

[Wendy Lin]

I’m ok with setting up my phone when it’s new but I dislike the part where I 
have to keep activating with my thumb.


> On Apr 16, 2021, at 6:50 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I haven’t set up a device from scratch for over a year, but after getting 
> VoiceOver on, the first screen may speak in a different language than what 
> you want, but if you double tap that button, it should orient to your default 
> regions language. From there, It is  a matter of following the prompts.
> You may want to call Apple Accessibility at the beginning stage and get them 
> to help you go through it if you get really stuck, 877-204-3930
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com 
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
> Villeda
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An S E2020 Question
>  
> Hi Richard,
>  
> Thanks, my biggest concern is knowing how to set it up, right out of the box.
>  
> I’d appreciate it if you have that information.
>  
> Noe
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: An S E2020 Question
>  
> If you are getting it new from Apple, then powering it on and triple tapping 
> the home button should turn on VoiceOver.
> During the setup you will have a chance to do the wireless transfer from your 
> other phone.  It will pretty much walk you through it but Alan Lemly I think 
> it was posted a good step-by-step guide for doing the wireless transfer.
> If I can find it I will pass it along unless he or someone else does first.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
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>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: An S E2020 Question
>  
> Hello Listers,
>  
> I will soon be upgrading to the S E 2020.
>  
> Does voiceover start just by tapping the home button three times?
>  
> Also, if it, and my current 10R phone are both unlocked, will I be prompted 
> to transfer my data to the new phone, or do I need to set anything on the 
> 2020 for it to start the transfer?
> Also, will it transfer passwords, or will I have to enter them manually?
>  
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Re: signing up for Club House

[Wendy Lin]

Oh that’s very strange. I had the old SE before my 6S. My old SE my mom has it 
now. Maybe when I get a chance I’ll try to ask her for it so that I can try 
Clubhouse on that device for you.

Wendy

> On Apr 16, 2021, at 4:23 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, but still doesn't work. I suspect it's because I'm using an older 
> SE and not all of the features in IOS work on that phone, even with the 
> latest IOS update. I found that the screen recognition doesn't work with 
> anything on this phone.
> 
> Vicki
> 
> - Original Message - From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:48 PM
> Subject: RE: signing up for Club House
> 
> 
>> Hi, Vicky,
>> #1. When Clubhouse is open, and you see the thing about Twitter, turn screen 
>> recognition on.
>> #2. Next, swipe down to find the button after the part that asks you to get 
>> the profile from Twitter.
>> You should be able to do it from there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."
>> Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
>> W.
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 11:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: signing up for Club House
>> 
>> Yes, I used the link. I had no problem signing up at all. It's creating my 
>> profile that I can't get beyond without starting a Twitter account.
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Kay Malmquist" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 6:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: signing up for Club House
>> 
>> 
>>> Did you use the link that the person sent to you?  Or when you set the ap
>>> up
>>> did it realize that you had been sent an invite?
>>> 
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
>>> Author Unknown.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Wendy Lin" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 6:41 AM
>>> Subject: Re: signing up for Club House
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all, based on my understanding I think we have to be invited by our
>>> friends who already have Clubhouse in order to sign up for Clubhouse. At
>>> least that's how it was with me. After I had entered the information that
>>> was required to get on the platform, it took a few minutes for the
>>> activation and then I was able to go through the rooms and everything.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2021, at 6:08 PM, Ray Wright  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have the same problem. I cannot sign up without going through
 Twitter. I had another friend that is having the same problem. I am
 using the original Iphone SE and so is my friend. We are running the
 latest IOS and the updated Clubhouse app.Do you think it's because
 we're using older phones? Any thoughts or suggestions?
 
 Ray
 
 On 4/13/21, Dana Leet  wrote:
> 
> No, you do not have to put your Twitter information in to sign up for
> clubhouse I did not initially have mine in there until later on. If you
> are
> on clubhouse come by my room sometime
> 
> Attention all lovers of Christian fiction. Join me every Thursday
> evening
> at
> 9 PM Eastern on clubhouse for the Christian fiction book club. Follow me
> on
> clubhouse at my name dana Leet and if you need a clubhouse invite
> message
> me
> and I will see what I can do
> Follow this link to join the club
> https://www.joinclubhouse.com/club/danas-diner
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Diane Giannetti 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi Vicki. You do not have to sign up with Twitter. If you go a little
>> further they should be to enter it manually.
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>> 
 On Apr 13, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
 
>>> ?
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm in the process of signing up for Club House. I did the most recent
>>> update a few days ago and tried signing up this morning.
>>> 
>>> I entered my phone number and agreed to their terms and then came to a
>>> screen that wanted me to use Twitter to set up my profile. I don't
>>> have
>>> a
>>> Twitter account and I don't especially want one. There are no other
>>> options, no button or link to skip, no other way to set up the profile
>>> and I can't get beyond this screen.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have an idea or two as to how to set up the profile or
>>> what
>>> I
>>> might be missing on my screen?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Vicki
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RE: Apple getting cheap

[Simon A Fogarty]

Waw,

Good on you for living in your cave,

Just keep worrying about you and everything else will pass you by 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
English
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 7:24 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap

Hi Simon,

The things that you've mentioned are not things I think about, because for the 
most part (pandemic, climate change, gun crime) I couldn't care less about 
them. I care about things that'll affect me, and having to pay extra money is 
one of those things.

On 4/16/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Good points, there,
>
> Yeah if people are really unhappy about apple dropping the power 
> brick,
>
> Go buy a Samsung,
>
> Oh that's right they 'are dropping the charging bricks form their 
> phones also.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 3:19 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>
> Again, I think folks are missing the point. No one's not going to not 
> buy an iPhone over a now no longer included wall charger.
> It's that Apple's removed this accessory under the guise (and with 
> likely
> merit) of environmentalism when really, it's a way to cut down on cost 
> from manufacturing, sourcing materials to shipping (in those 
> quantities, the difference adds up quickly) and is still charging the 
> same price. It's not like they're getting out of the wall charger 
> business. I mean, you can still buy one from them. It's just another 
> way for them to nibble around the edges, get some good press and keep 
> the same price. It comes off as chincy from a brand that holds itself 
> up as a luxury and consumer friendly company .
> But no... people would rather carry on like a scold while again, 
> missing the actual point.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Maria Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>
> Stuff it!
>
>
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
>
> On 4/15/2021 7:59 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> Yeah cheap,
>>
>> So I'm guessing people didn't listen to tim cook when he said they 
>> were getting rid of the power bricks in the boxes for the devices,
>>
>> It's not about being cheap,
>> It's more to do with apple trying to get back in to the eco friendly 
>> world and save the planet from excess plastic  that we don't need to 
>> clutter our lives with,
>>
>> Plus the fact that majority of the people around the planet who have 
>> had or have apple mobile devices already have a couple of charging 
>> bricks lying around and therefore those will still do the job they 
>> were made for,
>>
>> So if you have one already,
>> Why complain about them being left out of the box for a phone or 
>> iPad,
>>
>> I really love how these serious first world problems bug you guys so 
>> much,
>>
>> Imagine if we had real problems around the planet like a pendemic 
>> virus and millions dying,
>>
>> But you guys get upset because apple leave a $20 peace of plastic 
>> shit out of a box.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of lenron brown
>> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 7:18 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>>
>> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't 
>> for get the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, 
>> and airpods when they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them 
>> not putting them in the box.
>>
>> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw 
>>> where Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them 
>>> or Google with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just 
>>> don’t need all this extra crap going out into the environment. I 
>>> have an iPad charger from a really old iPad mini that still works 
>>> just fine. And of course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a 
>>> USB see power block which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It 
>>> didn’t exactly break the bank.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz 
 
 wrote:

 I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and 
 accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I 
 also definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a 
 convenient and specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut 
 the cost of production and logistics and still charge the same 
 under the cover of being environmentally conscious.
 Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is 
 going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of 
 buying an iPhone. 

RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Simon A Fogarty]

With iMap 
Your email client is a window to the server where all your email is kept 

Yes you can if the email client lets you set the time to keep mail available on 
the server,

>From memory if you go in to the account settings for the mail account 
And you open the configuration settings for the account,
You should see other settings for the mail box account 

In most cases your deleted items should stay again on the server but depending 
on how old the messages are and what storage your account has,
May cause old mail to be deleted.
But as I said Imap is all kept on your mail server and the client is your 
window to that mail box.

Pop is the client downloads your mail to your local machine via the client 
obviously 
But you are working from the client not from the server with imap.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2021 6:32 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

Where on the iPhone, do you go to mark about length of time to keep messages; I 
certainly would not want forever. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 1:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

With iMap, I think the how long to keep the emails is their version of do you 
want it left on the server.

iMap is always syncing the messages so any device looking at the messages will 
have the latest.

So, if on your iOS device, you mark keep them forever, then that leaves them on 
the server in the deleted folder until you empty the deleted folder.

At least, tha tis my theory based on no expert knowledge.

Hence, calling Apple to make sure.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Mine are POP3 accounts.  The Delete From Server option is the third one down, 
under Incoming Settings.

 

Karen

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

I looked on my imap account and went to advanced. I saw an option for how long 
to keep deleted messages but nothing about leaving them on the server or 
not.I’m running 14.4 and a new se2020

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Karen Poulakos
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Go into Settings, Mail, then Accounts.  Double tap on the account you want to 
change.  Then go to Advanced.  You’ll find the setting there. 

 

I have one account on which I have messages deleted from the server, and one 
that I have messages left on the server so I can access them from my laptop.

 

Karen P

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

I am not sure it is on the iOS device for POP3 accounts, you set that on the 
web side, like for Gmail.

I am not finding it for iMap on the iOS device either.  Maybe I should do 
research before replying?

But, all my accounts are set up as iMap, and I don’t permanently delete 
messages until I’m on my computer out of habit from the old days.

This might be worth a call to Apple to double check the official word.

 

Until later,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

RE: beta testing

[Simon A Fogarty]

Possibly the issue youre having is due to the fact you have an iPhone 12s,

Which isnt’ an iPhone available on the world market.

Could you mean a 12 or a 12 pro?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2021 7:49 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: beta testing

Thank you Daniel.
I’m not interested in beta testing, though I’d absolutely love it if apple 
fixed whatever issue is causing the Iphone 12’s not to charge wirelessly and 
also if they could make it so you could pick where you wanted voiceover to go 
when using Bluetooth over the speaker or over the phone speaker.
I talked with apple accessibility on these issues today, they routed me to 
Apple technical support who had never heard of voiceover nor did they 
understand the charging issue, nor did they understand Bluetooth.
The guy even said to me “just plug it in” when I was trying to describe the 
charging issue, if I wanted to do that and I liked that option I wouldn’t have 
even brought it up.
Very frustrating to say the least especially as the charging issue wasn’t 
disclosed when I bought my phone, it is apparently very common with Iphone 12’s 
and I’m told to “just plug it in”.
Really?


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Daniel MacDonald
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: beta testing

IOS 15 is around the corner. I’ll start beta testing when the developer beta 1 
is available. Not much is known about the OS, and developers and beta testers 
alike sign a non-discloser agreement and since this list is not for betas, I 
can’t say anything until iOS 15 is officially reliesed to the public. Their is 
a beta list however, and if some join it, we’ll no everything. It is a 
violation of the list guidelines to be subscribed if you’re not actively beta 
testing.
Regards,
Daniel


On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:41 PM, kliph miller Sr 
mailto:kliph.miller...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I run a beta list, and we test all betas with all aspects.  IOS, MacOS, iPads, 
iPhones, with and without bluetooth keyboards.  Even submitted bug reports, and 
share those bug report numbers so it can be referenced and be connected to the 
same issue.

My groups
User of just apple products, like to ask and answer without other topics?  
That’s how it goes down in “only Apple talk and support. Subscribe here
only-apple-tns+subscr...@groups.io
Come talk
 just apple!
Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs
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deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:

I would urge beta testers to do a lot of the testing of features  not just from 
bluetooth keyboards but through touching and tapping and swiping on the screen. 
I think things have been overlooked in the past in regard to swiping vs things 
that work real well for those using bluetooth keyboards or braile devices with 
their phones.

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Re: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?

[Esther]

Hi, Everyone,

I'm all set!  A friend of mine helped me get it back.

Thanks to all of you who tried to help me!  Take care.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Apr 16, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
> hi, Dave, I did try to do that but it keeps saying off selected and I can't 
> seem to turn it back on. Thanks. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> The line that says
>> "Background app refresh off" 
>> Is also a button. Double tap it and you will find the spot to turn it 
>> backon. 
>> 
>> Dave Clement
>> Winnipeg MB
>> 
>> On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:53 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Curious, why do you want to turn Background App Refresh back on? I guess 
>> you tried going into it and toggling?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Esther
>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?
>> 
>> Hi, Everyone,
>> 
>> The subject says it all.  I believe someone wrote and said that turning off 
>> Background App Refresh would 
>> 
>> 
>> save battery life.  Well, I'd like to turn it back on again and can't seem 
>> to do this.  Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?

[Esther]

hi, I wanted it on because I wanted them to automatically refresh themselves. I 
just talk to my friend and she told me to turn Wi-Fi off and cellular data on. 
I did that and it worked.

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> The line that says
> "Background app refresh off" 
> Is also a button. Double tap it and you will find the spot to turn it backon. 
> 
> Dave Clement
> Winnipeg MB
> 
> On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:53 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Curious, why do you want to turn Background App Refresh back on? I guess you 
> tried going into it and toggling?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Esther
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?
> 
> Hi, Everyone,
> 
> The subject says it all.  I believe someone wrote and said that turning off 
> Background App Refresh would 
> 
> 
> save battery life.  Well, I'd like to turn it back on again and can't seem to 
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> 
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Re: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?

[Mike B]

You need to select either Wifi or Wifi and Cellular.

Then select the Back button to go back a screen.

Now double tap either the Wifi or Wifi and Cellular, whichever one you 
selected in the prior screen.

Now swipe through the apps and turn on what you want to refresh.

I may not have the steps exactly right, but it took me a little playing 
around to figure it out, kinda sorta.  It's a little different than most 
other screens used to change settings.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 
From: Esther
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?


hi, Dave, I did try to do that but it keeps saying off selected and I can't 
seem to turn it back on. Thanks. Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


  On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:


  Hi,

  The line that says
  "Background app refresh off"
  Is also a button. Double tap it and you will find the spot to turn it 
backon.

  Dave Clement
  Winnipeg MB

  On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:53 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

  Curious, why do you want to turn Background App Refresh back on? I guess 
you tried going into it and toggling?

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Esther
  Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:11 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?

  Hi, Everyone,

  The subject says it all.  I believe someone wrote and said that turning 
off Background App Refresh would


  save battery life.  Well, I'd like to turn it back on again and can't seem 
to do this.  Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Can a Shortcut Be Made to Open the Braille Setting?

[dani pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
Using IOS14.4 (I think that's the latest update.) and a BrailleEdge.
Is there a way to ceate a shortcut to the Braille setting? At this
point I have to jump through hoops to pair the Braille display. Not a
problem yet, but at some point there'll be a place when I need
immediate pairing and can't do the Settings ... Accessibility ...
VoiceOver ... Braille search to pair.

Ideas?

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How to Access Message Threads Outside of Message App?

[dani pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
I need to create a timeline of events using conversations from
different family members. Is there a way to copy the separate
conversations from each person/group in the Messages app out so I can
put events mentioned in the conversations in order in say, Word?

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RE: Focused inbox in outlook?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Outlook will split your in box into two views. One will be focus for the 
messages it thinks are important to you and other for the rest of the messages. 
You can let Outlook know which messages you want in which view. I have most 
things go into focus, but I will send things like newsletters, 
Facebook/LinkedIn updates and the like into other. You can turn this off 
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What is the focused inbox in the outlook app? Also, does it always say get the 
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Focused inbox in outlook?

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What is the focused inbox in the outlook app? Also, does it always say get the 
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Re: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?

[Esther]

hi, Dave, I did try to do that but it keeps saying off selected and I can't 
seem to turn it back on. Thanks. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> The line that says
> "Background app refresh off" 
> Is also a button. Double tap it and you will find the spot to turn it backon. 
> 
> Dave Clement
> Winnipeg MB
> 
> On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:53 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Curious, why do you want to turn Background App Refresh back on? I guess you 
> tried going into it and toggling?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Esther
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?
> 
> Hi, Everyone,
> 
> The subject says it all.  I believe someone wrote and said that turning off 
> Background App Refresh would 
> 
> 
> save battery life.  Well, I'd like to turn it back on again and can't seem to 
> do this.  Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
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Question about Overcast and a possible speaker

[regina alvarado]

Two questions. Thanks for answers in advance.

1. I have Overcast on my phone with many podcasts on it. I now have an iPad 
Mini and have put Overcast on it. How do I sync my podcasts to my Mini? I 
notice on investigation that I can put my email and a password, but I never did 
this. Would that be a way of getting my iPad to put the podcasts on the Mini or 
do I need to do all by hand on the Mini?

2. Completely different question. I would like to know if there are a set of 
speakers that are not expensive that could bluetooth to both my Alexa and my TV 
or even to my iPad with ease so I could use them easily with whatever device I 
needed them for. Do not know what I should look for or even if such a thing 
exists. Thanks again for any help with either question.


Reggie Alvarado 

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Re: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?

[Dave Clement]

Hi, 

The line that says
"Background app refresh off" 
Is also a button. Double tap it and you will find the spot to turn it backon. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB

On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:53 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Curious, why do you want to turn Background App Refresh back on? I guess you 
tried going into it and toggling?

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Subject: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?

Hi, Everyone,

The subject says it all.  I believe someone wrote and said that turning off 
Background App Refresh would 


save battery life.  Well, I'd like to turn it back on again and can't seem to 
do this.  Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.


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RE: An S E2020 Question

[Carolyn]

When we transferred from my SE to this 11, I had to reset my digital password, 
then later took the phone out into the sunshine and got my photo ID in. 

-Original Message-
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Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:30 PM
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Subject: RE: An S E2020 Question

If you are getting it new from Apple, then powering it on and triple tapping 
the home button should turn on VoiceOver.

During the setup you will have a chance to do the wireless transfer from your 
other phone.  It will pretty much walk you through it but Alan Lemly I think it 
was posted a good step-by-step guide for doing the wireless transfer.

If I can find it I will pass it along unless he or someone else does first.

 

HTH,

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: An S E2020 Question

 

Hello Listers,

 

I will soon be upgrading to the S E 2020.

 

Does voiceover start just by tapping the home button three times?

 

Also, if it, and my current 10R phone are both unlocked, will I be prompted to 
transfer my data to the new phone, or do I need to set anything on the 2020 for 
it to start the transfer?

Also, will it transfer passwords, or will I have to enter them manually?

 

 

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RE: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?

[Carolyn]

Curious, why do you want to turn Background App Refresh back on? I guess you 
tried going into it and toggling?

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Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?

Hi, Everyone,

The subject says it all.  I believe someone wrote and said that turning off 
Background App Refresh would 


save battery life.  Well, I'd like to turn it back on again and can't seem to 
do this.  Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.


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RE: beta testing

[Carolyn]

I would have a bird, if I couldn't wireless charge my 11! 

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Star Gazer
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: beta testing

Thank you Daniel. 

I’m not interested in beta testing, though I’d absolutely love it if apple 
fixed whatever issue is causing the Iphone 12’s not to charge wirelessly and 
also if they could make it so you could pick where you wanted voiceover to go 
when using Bluetooth over the speaker or over the phone speaker. 

I talked with apple accessibility on these issues today, they routed me to 
Apple technical support who had never heard of voiceover nor did they 
understand the charging issue, nor did they understand Bluetooth. 

The guy even said to me “just plug it in” when I was trying to describe the 
charging issue, if I wanted to do that and I liked that option I wouldn’t have 
even brought it up. 

Very frustrating to say the least especially as the charging issue wasn’t 
disclosed when I bought my phone, it is apparently very common with Iphone 12’s 
and I’m told to “just plug it in”. 

Really? 

 

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows 10

 

From: Daniel MacDonald  
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: beta testing

 

IOS 15 is around the corner. I’ll start beta testing when the developer beta 1 
is available. Not much is known about the OS, and developers and beta testers 
alike sign a non-discloser agreement and since this list is not for betas, I 
can’t say anything until iOS 15 is officially reliesed to the public. Their is 
a beta list however, and if some join it, we’ll no everything. It is a 
violation of the list guidelines to be subscribed if you’re not actively beta 
testing. 

Regards,

Daniel

 





On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:41 PM, kliph miller Sr 
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I run a beta list, and we test all betas with all aspects.  IOS, 
MacOS, iPads, iPhones, with and without bluetooth keyboards.  Even submitted 
bug reports, and share those bug report numbers so it can be referenced and be 
connected to the same issue.

 

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On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:23 PM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

 

I would urge beta testers to do a lot of the testing of 
features  not just from bluetooth keyboards but through touching and tapping 
and swiping on the screen. I think things have been overlooked in the past in 
regard to swiping vs things that work real well for those using bluetooth 
keyboards or braile devices with their phones.

 

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RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Carolyn]

I hope it does. 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

Once again, with iMap, after looking at the settings, that is not determined by 
your phone.
You can limit the number of days to sync your messages, so it could only show 
you the last 30 days, or forever, or one day, etc.
I think if you delete a message on an iMap account, it deletes it everywhere.


I do not have any pop accounts so will stay silent there and probably will stay 
silent hence forth about the settings for keeping messages, etc.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

Where on the iPhone, do you go to mark about length of time to keep messages; I 
certainly would not want forever. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 1:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

With iMap, I think the how long to keep the emails is their version of do you 
want it left on the server.

iMap is always syncing the messages so any device looking at the messages will 
have the latest.

So, if on your iOS device, you mark keep them forever, then that leaves them on 
the server in the deleted folder until you empty the deleted folder.

At least, tha tis my theory based on no expert knowledge.

Hence, calling Apple to make sure.

 

 

 

Richard

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Poulakos
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Mine are POP3 accounts.  The Delete From Server option is the third one down, 
under Incoming Settings.

 

Karen

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

I looked on my imap account and went to advanced. I saw an option for how long 
to keep deleted messages but nothing about leaving them on the server or 
not.I’m running 14.4 and a new se2020

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Karen Poulakos
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Go into Settings, Mail, then Accounts.  Double tap on the account you want to 
change.  Then go to Advanced.  You’ll find the setting there. 

 

I have one account on which I have messages deleted from the server, and one 
that I have messages left on the server so I can access them from my laptop.

 

Karen P

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

I am not sure it is on the iOS device for POP3 accounts, you set that on the 
web side, like for Gmail.

I am not finding it for iMap on the iOS device either.  Maybe I should do 
research before replying?

But, all my accounts are set up as iMap, and I don’t permanently delete 
messages until I’m on my computer out of habit from the old days.

This might be worth a call to Apple to double check the official word.

 

RE: An S E2020 Question

[Richard Turner]

I haven't set up a device from scratch for over a year, but after getting 
VoiceOver on, the first screen may speak in a different language than what you 
want, but if you double tap that button, it should orient to your default 
regions language. From there, It is  a matter of following the prompts.
You may want to call Apple Accessibility at the beginning stage and get them to 
help you go through it if you get really stuck, 877-204-3930

HTH,

Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An S E2020 Question

Hi Richard,

Thanks, my biggest concern is knowing how to set it up, right out of the box.

I'd appreciate it if you have that information.

Noe




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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An S E2020 Question

If you are getting it new from Apple, then powering it on and triple tapping 
the home button should turn on VoiceOver.
During the setup you will have a chance to do the wireless transfer from your 
other phone.  It will pretty much walk you through it but Alan Lemly I think it 
was posted a good step-by-step guide for doing the wireless transfer.
If I can find it I will pass it along unless he or someone else does first.

HTH,

Richard
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Villeda
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: An S E2020 Question

Hello Listers,

I will soon be upgrading to the S E 2020.

Does voiceover start just by tapping the home button three times?

Also, if it, and my current 10R phone are both unlocked, will I be prompted to 
transfer my data to the new phone, or do I need to set anything on the 2020 for 
it to start the transfer?
Also, will it transfer passwords, or will I have to enter them manually?


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RE: An S E2020 Question

[Noe Villeda]

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks, my biggest concern is knowing how to set it up, right out of the box.

 

I’d appreciate it if you have that information.

 

Noe

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An S E2020 Question

 

If you are getting it new from Apple, then powering it on and triple tapping 
the home button should turn on VoiceOver.

During the setup you will have a chance to do the wireless transfer from your 
other phone.  It will pretty much walk you through it but Alan Lemly I think it 
was posted a good step-by-step guide for doing the wireless transfer.

If I can find it I will pass it along unless he or someone else does first.

 

HTH,

 

Richard

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they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

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Villeda
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: An S E2020 Question

 

Hello Listers,

 

I will soon be upgrading to the S E 2020.

 

Does voiceover start just by tapping the home button three times?

 

Also, if it, and my current 10R phone are both unlocked, will I be prompted to 
transfer my data to the new phone, or do I need to set anything on the 2020 for 
it to start the transfer?

Also, will it transfer passwords, or will I have to enter them manually?

 

 

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RE: An S E2020 Question

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If you are getting it new from Apple, then powering it on and triple tapping 
the home button should turn on VoiceOver.
During the setup you will have a chance to do the wireless transfer from your 
other phone.  It will pretty much walk you through it but Alan Lemly I think it 
was posted a good step-by-step guide for doing the wireless transfer.
If I can find it I will pass it along unless he or someone else does first.

HTH,

Richard
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Subject: An S E2020 Question

Hello Listers,

I will soon be upgrading to the S E 2020.

Does voiceover start just by tapping the home button three times?

Also, if it, and my current 10R phone are both unlocked, will I be prompted to 
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An S E2020 Question

[Noe Villeda]

Hello Listers,

 

I will soon be upgrading to the S E 2020.

 

Does voiceover start just by tapping the home button three times?

 

Also, if it, and my current 10R phone are both unlocked, will I be prompted
to transfer my data to the new phone, or do I need to set anything on the
2020 for it to start the transfer?

Also, will it transfer passwords, or will I have to enter them manually?

 

 

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Re: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?

[Esther]

Hi,

I did what you told me, but when I try to turn it back on, it says "Off 
Selected."  I'll keep trying, however.  I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Apr 16, 2021, at 6:14 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Go to Settings / General / Background app refresh. 
> 
> Dave Clement
> Winnipeg MB
> 
> 
> On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:11 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, Everyone,
> 
> The subject says it all.  I believe someone wrote and said that turning off 
> Background App Refresh would 
> 
> 
> save battery life.  Well, I'd like to turn it back on again and can't seem to 
> do this.  Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
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Logitech K860 Full-Sized wireless keyboard for computers/smart phones

[Richard Turner]

Logitech K860 Wireless ergonomic keyboard for Windows/android or Mac/iOS

I needed a new keyboard as my 15-year-old USB keyboard was starting to have 
problems with a few keys and my old hands are deciding that it is time to go 
back to an ergonomic keyboard.
So, after doing some research, I settled on what is rated as one of the better 
ergonomic keyboards.

I was not set on wireless, but that is the way the world is going and since I 
like Logitech products in general, I went with this one.
Logitech K860 Split wireless Ergonomic keyboard.  It is pricy at $130.
I'll start with the negatives.

Cons:
1.  No applications key.
2.  Only one Windows key on the left.
3.  No accessible documentation.  And no true documentation about the 
hieroglyphic symbols   used on some of the keys.
4.  It is too easy to toggle to the media functions for the function keys.
5.  It is pretty large.  Left to right it is the same width as my standard 
Wired USB keyboard.  Front to back it is about 1.5 times as deep.  And, of 
course, much higher off the desk at the front edge due to the curve for the 
ergonomics of the thing.
6.  *Not really a con, just the nature of ergonomic keyboards, but the split is 
between the 6 and 7, (and f6 and f7) keys, so for touch typists, the habit of 
hitting the 6and F6 with your right index finger has to be retrained.

Pros:
1.  It is probably the most comfortable keyboard I have ever typed on.  The 
wrist rest is quite comfortable, and for me, at the right height Plus, it has 
feet under the front edge so you can raise it up to a more level arrangement 
which fits me perfectly.  It is already on a slight angle so no real need for 
feet in the back.
2.  Easy setup with or without the Logitech Options package.  I plugged in the 
USB receiver turned on the keyboard and Windows 10 had no trouble communicating 
with it.  There is a little key next to the f12 key that toggles you between 
standard function keys and the media function keys.  Easy to press accidentally.
3.  It takes two triple A batteries, and they say that they will last 2 years.  
I believe it based on my experience with the K480.
4.  This is a full-sized keyboard with the number pad.
5.  If I used the Windows Calculator more, this has a designated key above the 
Num-lock key to launch the Windows Calculator.
6.  It can connect to 3 devices.  Either 3 Bluetooth devices or 1 USB and 2 
Bluetooth, and/or possibly 2 USB devices and one Bluetooth, that isn't clear.  
Connecting it to my iPhone was easy after I called their support line.
The three keys for switching between devices are right above the 6 pack, making 
it a 9 pack.
It is tremendously easy to switch devices.  I wanted to check a key function on 
my iPhone while I was writing this, so I tapped the iPhone key, (for me device 
3)  did my checking, tapped the computer key, (device 1), and finished writing 
this in Word on my computer.
7.  It has a physical on/off switch located on the back edge and slightly under 
it.  If you feel where the split is between f6 and f7, and slide your finger 
straight back, you are on it.  Flipped to the right is on.
8.  It is easy to toggle between the standard function keys and the media 
function keys.  I know, I listed this under the cons, but for some it would 
also be a pro.

For anyone else who has, or ends up with this keyboard, here is the key layout 
that involves the missing or extra keys.

ON the very top row, it is mostly standard, but here goes starting from the top 
left key:
Escape
F1
f2
f3
f4
f5
f6
f7
f8
f9
f10
f11
f12
The Function Toggle
Print Screen, which is longer than the other keys.
Device 1
Device 2
Device 3
Calculator key
Battery indicator with one of the hieroglyphic symbols my wife couldn't 
identify).
I am guessing that is for use with the Logitech Options software.
  Scroll lock key, with another symbol but the letters SC on it.
Windows Lock key.  This key allows you to lock your computer, so you need the 
password to get back into it, also accomplished with WindowsKey+l.

* Note that the Function Toggle key is directly above the left edge of the 
backspace key, and the print screen key is above the rest of the backspace key.

The first row where the space bar is located is laid out like this:
Control Key
Windows/Options Key
Alt/Command Key
Spacebar with the split in the middle
Alt/Command Key
Function key, which also seems to have the word Options, probably for Mac usage.
Control Key
Then your standard arrow keys followed by the standard numpad.

Later,


Richard
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Re: How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?

[Dave Clement]

Hi, 

Go to Settings / General / Background app refresh. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:11 PM, Esther  wrote:


Hi, Everyone,

The subject says it all.  I believe someone wrote and said that turning off 
Background App Refresh would 


save battery life.  Well, I'd like to turn it back on again and can't seem to 
do this.  Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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How Can I Turn Background App Refresh Back On?

[Esther]

Hi, Everyone,

The subject says it all.  I believe someone wrote and said that turning off 
Background App Refresh would 


save battery life.  Well, I'd like to turn it back on again and can't seem to 
do this.  Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Questions about braille displays Kindle and voice dream reader

[Ann]

The orbit reader 20 or 20 Plus do work very well with both Kindle and 
Voice dream Reader. I really hope the panning issue is fixed in the next 
IOS update. I especially miss pulling something up on my Kindle and 
being able to read it in braille.


~Ann



On 4/16/2021 4:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Most will work better after iOS 14.5 is released.

There is a bug that causes problems when you get to the bottom of a page 
and pan to the next page.


That is an iOS issue not specific to any display.

I personally prefer the Orbit Reader displays, but you will get as many 
displays recommended as there are displays out there as everyone has 
their likes and dislikes.


Richard

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what they become by it."


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Display to read books that you’ve already downloaded from book share on 
voice dream reader, and or if you’ve used braille displays to read books 
from the Kindle app? If so which displays do you find have worked well 
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Re: signing up for Club House

[Vicki W.]

Thank you, but still doesn't work. I suspect it's because I'm using an older 
SE and not all of the features in IOS work on that phone, even with the 
latest IOS update. I found that the screen recognition doesn't work with 
anything on this phone.


Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: signing up for Club House



Hi, Vicky,
#1. When Clubhouse is open, and you see the thing about Twitter, turn 
screen recognition on.
#2. Next, swipe down to find the button after the part that asks you to 
get the profile from Twitter.

You should be able to do it from there.




"Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."
Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.

Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: signing up for Club House

Yes, I used the link. I had no problem signing up at all. It's creating my 
profile that I can't get beyond without starting a Twitter account.



- Original Message - 
From: "Kay Malmquist" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: signing up for Club House



Did you use the link that the person sent to you?  Or when you set the ap
up
did it realize that you had been sent an invite?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown.

- Original Message - 
From: "Wendy Lin" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: signing up for Club House


Hi all, based on my understanding I think we have to be invited by our
friends who already have Clubhouse in order to sign up for Clubhouse. At
least that's how it was with me. After I had entered the information that
was required to get on the platform, it took a few minutes for the
activation and then I was able to go through the rooms and everything.



On Apr 13, 2021, at 6:08 PM, Ray Wright  wrote:

Hello,

I have the same problem. I cannot sign up without going through
Twitter. I had another friend that is having the same problem. I am
using the original Iphone SE and so is my friend. We are running the
latest IOS and the updated Clubhouse app.Do you think it's because
we're using older phones? Any thoughts or suggestions?

Ray

On 4/13/21, Dana Leet  wrote:


No, you do not have to put your Twitter information in to sign up for
clubhouse I did not initially have mine in there until later on. If you
are
on clubhouse come by my room sometime

Attention all lovers of Christian fiction. Join me every Thursday
evening
at
9 PM Eastern on clubhouse for the Christian fiction book club. Follow 
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on
clubhouse at my name dana Leet and if you need a clubhouse invite
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me
and I will see what I can do
Follow this link to join the club
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On Apr 13, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Diane Giannetti 
wrote:

?Hi Vicki. You do not have to sign up with Twitter. If you go a little
further they should be to enter it manually.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!


On Apr 13, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


?
Hi,

I'm in the process of signing up for Club House. I did the most 
recent

update a few days ago and tried signing up this morning.

I entered my phone number and agreed to their terms and then came to 
a

screen that wanted me to use Twitter to set up my profile. I don't
have
a
Twitter account and I don't especially want one. There are no other
options, no button or link to skip, no other way to set up the 
profile

and I can't get beyond this screen.

Does anyone have an idea or two as to how to set up the profile or
what
I
might be missing on my screen?

Thanks.

Vicki

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RE: Questions about braille displays Kindle and voice dream reader

[Richard Turner]

Most will work better after iOS 14.5 is released.
There is a bug that causes problems when you get to the bottom of a page and 
pan to the next page.
That is an iOS issue not specific to any display.
I personally prefer the Orbit Reader displays, but you will get as many 
displays recommended as there are displays out there as everyone has their 
likes and dislikes.




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Re: Apple getting cheap

[lenron brown]

Got to love the fingerprint reader. If can sell my pro max in a few
months for something with a fingerprint reader I will. Either way we
get that there are more important things going on. Doesn't mean it's
not a damn rip off. All these huge companies don't mind shafting you
and then making it sound good while they do it.

On 4/16/21, Devin Prater  wrote:
> Can confirm, I bought an Samsung phone, and am liking it so far. So, yeah,
> if y'all don't like Apple, you truly do have options. Is TalkBack as good
> as VoiceOver? I'd say it's about 60% of the way there. So you aren't locked
> in, even when it comes to accessibility. And, Samsung phones have
> fingerprint readers. :)
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 3:26 PM Richard Turner
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>> Folks, you do not have to buy Apple products if they upset you so much.
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Questions about braille displays Kindle and voice dream reader

[Dana Leet]

Good afternoon everyone. I was curious, if anyone has used it Braille Display 
to read books that you’ve already downloaded from book share on voice dream 
reader, and or if you’ve used braille displays to read books from the Kindle 
app? If so which displays do you find have worked well with either of these 
tasks on our IT devices thanks Dana

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RE: beta testing

[Star Gazer]

Thank you Daniel. 
I’m not interested in beta testing, though I’d absolutely love it if apple 
fixed whatever issue is causing the Iphone 12’s not to charge wirelessly and 
also if they could make it so you could pick where you wanted voiceover to go 
when using Bluetooth over the speaker or over the phone speaker. 
I talked with apple accessibility on these issues today, they routed me to 
Apple technical support who had never heard of voiceover nor did they 
understand the charging issue, nor did they understand Bluetooth. 
The guy even said to me “just plug it in” when I was trying to describe the 
charging issue, if I wanted to do that and I liked that option I wouldn’t have 
even brought it up. 
Very frustrating to say the least especially as the charging issue wasn’t 
disclosed when I bought my phone, it is apparently very common with Iphone 12’s 
and I’m told to “just plug it in”. 
Really? 


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Daniel MacDonald
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: beta testing

IOS 15 is around the corner. I’ll start beta testing when the developer beta 1 
is available. Not much is known about the OS, and developers and beta testers 
alike sign a non-discloser agreement and since this list is not for betas, I 
can’t say anything until iOS 15 is officially reliesed to the public. Their is 
a beta list however, and if some join it, we’ll no everything. It is a 
violation of the list guidelines to be subscribed if you’re not actively beta 
testing. 
Regards,
Daniel



On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:41 PM, kliph miller Sr  wrote:
I run a beta list, and we test all betas with all aspects.  IOS, MacOS, iPads, 
iPhones, with and without bluetooth keyboards.  Even submitted bug reports, and 
share those bug report numbers so it can be referenced and be connected to the 
same issue.

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I would urge beta testers to do a lot of the testing of features  not just from 
bluetooth keyboards but through touching and tapping and swiping on the screen. 
I think things have been overlooked in the past in regard to swiping vs things 
that work real well for those using bluetooth keyboards or braile devices with 
their phones.
 
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Re: beta testing

[Daniel MacDonald]

IOS 15 is around the corner. I’ll start beta testing when the developer beta 1 
is available. Not much is known about the OS, and developers and beta testers 
alike sign a non-discloser agreement and since this list is not for betas, I 
can’t say anything until iOS 15 is officially reliesed to the public. Their is 
a beta list however, and if some join it, we’ll no everything. It is a 
violation of the list guidelines to be subscribed if you’re not actively beta 
testing. 
Regards,
Daniel


> On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:41 PM, kliph miller Sr  
> wrote:
> 
> I run a beta list, and we test all betas with all aspects.  IOS, MacOS, 
> iPads, iPhones, with and without bluetooth keyboards.  Even submitted bug 
> reports, and share those bug report numbers so it can be referenced and be 
> connected to the same issue.
> 
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> That’s how it goes down in “only Apple talk and support. Subscribe here
> only-apple-tns+subscr...@groups.io
> Come talk
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> Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs
> public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io
> Because of the non disclosure agreement, if your not a beta tester, please 
> don’t join the group.
> Have a braille display?  Come teach and learn with others
> braille-display-users+subscr...@groups.io
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:23 PM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I would urge beta testers to do a lot of the testing of features  not just 
>> from bluetooth keyboards but through touching and tapping and swiping on the 
>> screen. I think things have been overlooked in the past in regard to swiping 
>> vs things that work real well for those using bluetooth keyboards or braile 
>> devices with their phones.
>>  
>> Deidre
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RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Richard Turner]

Once again, with iMap, after looking at the settings, that is not determined by 
your phone.
You can limit the number of days to sync your messages, so it could only show 
you the last 30 days, or forever, or one day, etc.
I think if you delete a message on an iMap account, it deletes it everywhere.


I do not have any pop accounts so will stay silent there and probably will stay 
silent hence forth about the settings for keeping messages, etc.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

Where on the iPhone, do you go to mark about length of time to keep messages; I 
certainly would not want forever. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 1:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

With iMap, I think the how long to keep the emails is their version of do you 
want it left on the server.

iMap is always syncing the messages so any device looking at the messages will 
have the latest.

So, if on your iOS device, you mark keep them forever, then that leaves them on 
the server in the deleted folder until you empty the deleted folder.

At least, tha tis my theory based on no expert knowledge.

Hence, calling Apple to make sure.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Mine are POP3 accounts.  The Delete From Server option is the third one down, 
under Incoming Settings.

 

Karen

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

I looked on my imap account and went to advanced. I saw an option for how long 
to keep deleted messages but nothing about leaving them on the server or 
not.I’m running 14.4 and a new se2020

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Karen Poulakos
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Go into Settings, Mail, then Accounts.  Double tap on the account you want to 
change.  Then go to Advanced.  You’ll find the setting there. 

 

I have one account on which I have messages deleted from the server, and one 
that I have messages left on the server so I can access them from my laptop.

 

Karen P

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

I am not sure it is on the iOS device for POP3 accounts, you set that on the 
web side, like for Gmail.

I am not finding it for iMap on the iOS device either.  Maybe I should do 
research before replying?

But, all my accounts are set up as iMap, and I don’t permanently delete 
messages until I’m on my computer out of habit from the old days.

This might be worth a call to Apple to double check the official word.

 

Until later,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: 

RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Carolyn]

Where on the iPhone, do you go to mark about length of time to keep messages; I 
certainly would not want forever. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 1:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

With iMap, I think the how long to keep the emails is their version of do you 
want it left on the server.

iMap is always syncing the messages so any device looking at the messages will 
have the latest.

So, if on your iOS device, you mark keep them forever, then that leaves them on 
the server in the deleted folder until you empty the deleted folder.

At least, tha tis my theory based on no expert knowledge.

Hence, calling Apple to make sure.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Mine are POP3 accounts.  The Delete From Server option is the third one down, 
under Incoming Settings.

 

Karen

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

I looked on my imap account and went to advanced. I saw an option for how long 
to keep deleted messages but nothing about leaving them on the server or 
not.I’m running 14.4 and a new se2020

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Karen Poulakos
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Go into Settings, Mail, then Accounts.  Double tap on the account you want to 
change.  Then go to Advanced.  You’ll find the setting there. 

 

I have one account on which I have messages deleted from the server, and one 
that I have messages left on the server so I can access them from my laptop.

 

Karen P

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

I am not sure it is on the iOS device for POP3 accounts, you set that on the 
web side, like for Gmail.

I am not finding it for iMap on the iOS device either.  Maybe I should do 
research before replying?

But, all my accounts are set up as iMap, and I don’t permanently delete 
messages until I’m on my computer out of habit from the old days.

This might be worth a call to Apple to double check the official word.

 

Until later,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Good morning Richard,

 

Where does one find the delete from server setting in the iPhone Mail app?  
Running iOS 14.4.2.  I haven't run across this setting and would like to.  
Thanks much.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

If your email on the phone is set as iMap, it will not remove them from the 
server unless you set it to remove from server when you delete it on your 
phone. 

Easy answer, do your deleting on the computer.

If your phone is set to use Pop3, you can go into the settings and tell it to 
leave messages on the server.

HTH,

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor 

RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Richard Turner]

With iMap, I think the how long to keep the emails is their version of do you 
want it left on the server.
iMap is always syncing the messages so any device looking at the messages will 
have the latest.
So, if on your iOS device, you mark keep them forever, then that leaves them on 
the server in the deleted folder until you empty the deleted folder.
At least, tha tis my theory based on no expert knowledge.
Hence, calling Apple to make sure.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

Mine are POP3 accounts.  The Delete From Server option is the third one down, 
under Incoming Settings.

Karen

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

I looked on my imap account and went to advanced. I saw an option for how long 
to keep deleted messages but nothing about leaving them on the server or 
not.I’m running 14.4 and a new se2020


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

Go into Settings, Mail, then Accounts.  Double tap on the account you want to 
change.  Then go to Advanced.  You’ll find the setting there.

I have one account on which I have messages deleted from the server, and one 
that I have messages left on the server so I can access them from my laptop.

Karen P
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

I am not sure it is on the iOS device for POP3 accounts, you set that on the 
web side, like for Gmail.
I am not finding it for iMap on the iOS device either.  Maybe I should do 
research before replying?
But, all my accounts are set up as iMap, and I don’t permanently delete 
messages until I’m on my computer out of habit from the old days.
This might be worth a call to Apple to double check the official word.

Until later,


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

Good morning Richard,

Where does one find the delete from server setting in the iPhone Mail app?  
Running iOS 14.4.2.  I haven't run across this setting and would like to.  
Thanks much.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

If your email on the phone is set as iMap, it will not remove them from the 
server unless you set it to remove from server when you delete it on your phone.
Easy answer, do your deleting on the computer.
If your phone is set to use Pop3, you can go into the settings and tell it to 
leave messages on the server.
HTH,


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

Hello. I have the mail client set up on my iphone and ipad to 

RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Karen Poulakos]

Mine are POP3 accounts.  The Delete From Server option is the third one down, 
under Incoming Settings.

 

Karen

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

I looked on my imap account and went to advanced. I saw an option for how long 
to keep deleted messages but nothing about leaving them on the server or 
not.I’m running 14.4 and a new se2020

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Go into Settings, Mail, then Accounts.  Double tap on the account you want to 
change.  Then go to Advanced.  You’ll find the setting there. 

 

I have one account on which I have messages deleted from the server, and one 
that I have messages left on the server so I can access them from my laptop.

 

Karen P

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

I am not sure it is on the iOS device for POP3 accounts, you set that on the 
web side, like for Gmail.

I am not finding it for iMap on the iOS device either.  Maybe I should do 
research before replying?

But, all my accounts are set up as iMap, and I don’t permanently delete 
messages until I’m on my computer out of habit from the old days.

This might be worth a call to Apple to double check the official word.

 

Until later,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site:   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Good morning Richard,

 

Where does one find the delete from server setting in the iPhone Mail app?  
Running iOS 14.4.2.  I haven't run across this setting and would like to.  
Thanks much.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

If your email on the phone is set as iMap, it will not remove them from the 
server unless you set it to remove from server when you delete it on your 
phone. 

Easy answer, do your deleting on the computer.

If your phone is set to use Pop3, you can go into the settings and tell it to 
leave messages on the server.

HTH,

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 

 

On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:

 

Hello. I have the mail client set up on my iphone and ipad to share articles 
from feeds with my wife. Can I keep it from fetching new mail while still doing 
this. I might want to see some messages on my computer where I do most of my 
interacting. If not, can I tell the IOS app not to delete the mail from the 
server.

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RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Larry Lumpkin]

I looked on my imap account and went to advanced. I saw an option for how long 
to keep deleted messages but nothing about leaving them on the server or 
not.I’m running 14.4 and a new se2020

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Go into Settings, Mail, then Accounts.  Double tap on the account you want to 
change.  Then go to Advanced.  You’ll find the setting there. 

 

I have one account on which I have messages deleted from the server, and one 
that I have messages left on the server so I can access them from my laptop.

 

Karen P

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

I am not sure it is on the iOS device for POP3 accounts, you set that on the 
web side, like for Gmail.

I am not finding it for iMap on the iOS device either.  Maybe I should do 
research before replying?

But, all my accounts are set up as iMap, and I don’t permanently delete 
messages until I’m on my computer out of habit from the old days.

This might be worth a call to Apple to double check the official word.

 

Until later,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site:   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Good morning Richard,

 

Where does one find the delete from server setting in the iPhone Mail app?  
Running iOS 14.4.2.  I haven't run across this setting and would like to.  
Thanks much.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

If your email on the phone is set as iMap, it will not remove them from the 
server unless you set it to remove from server when you delete it on your 
phone. 

Easy answer, do your deleting on the computer.

If your phone is set to use Pop3, you can go into the settings and tell it to 
leave messages on the server.

HTH,

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com  

 

 

On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

 

Hello. I have the mail client set up on my iphone and ipad to share articles 
from feeds with my wife. Can I keep it from fetching new mail while still doing 
this. I might want to see some messages on my computer where I do most of my 
interacting. If not, can I tell the IOS app not to delete the mail from the 
server.

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RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Karen Poulakos]

Go into Settings, Mail, then Accounts.  Double tap on the account you want to 
change.  Then go to Advanced.  You’ll find the setting there. 

 

I have one account on which I have messages deleted from the server, and one 
that I have messages left on the server so I can access them from my laptop.

 

Karen P

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

I am not sure it is on the iOS device for POP3 accounts, you set that on the 
web side, like for Gmail.

I am not finding it for iMap on the iOS device either.  Maybe I should do 
research before replying?

But, all my accounts are set up as iMap, and I don’t permanently delete 
messages until I’m on my computer out of habit from the old days.

This might be worth a call to Apple to double check the official word.

 

Until later,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site:   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Good morning Richard,

 

Where does one find the delete from server setting in the iPhone Mail app?  
Running iOS 14.4.2.  I haven't run across this setting and would like to.  
Thanks much.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

If your email on the phone is set as iMap, it will not remove them from the 
server unless you set it to remove from server when you delete it on your 
phone. 

Easy answer, do your deleting on the computer.

If your phone is set to use Pop3, you can go into the settings and tell it to 
leave messages on the server.

HTH,

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 

 

On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:

 

Hello. I have the mail client set up on my iphone and ipad to share articles 
from feeds with my wife. Can I keep it from fetching new mail while still doing 
this. I might want to see some messages on my computer where I do most of my 
interacting. If not, can I tell the IOS app not to delete the mail from the 
server.

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Re: Apple getting cheap

[Devin Prater]

Can confirm, I bought an Samsung phone, and am liking it so far. So, yeah,
if y'all don't like Apple, you truly do have options. Is TalkBack as good
as VoiceOver? I'd say it's about 60% of the way there. So you aren't locked
in, even when it comes to accessibility. And, Samsung phones have
fingerprint readers. :)
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RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Richard Turner]

I am not sure it is on the iOS device for POP3 accounts, you set that on the 
web side, like for Gmail.
I am not finding it for iMap on the iOS device either.  Maybe I should do 
research before replying?
But, all my accounts are set up as iMap, and I don’t permanently delete 
messages until I’m on my computer out of habit from the old days.
This might be worth a call to Apple to double check the official word.

Until later,


Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

Good morning Richard,

Where does one find the delete from server setting in the iPhone Mail app?  
Running iOS 14.4.2.  I haven't run across this setting and would like to.  
Thanks much.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

If your email on the phone is set as iMap, it will not remove them from the 
server unless you set it to remove from server when you delete it on your phone.
Easy answer, do your deleting on the computer.
If your phone is set to use Pop3, you can go into the settings and tell it to 
leave messages on the server.
HTH,


Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Larry Lumpkin 
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Hello. I have the mail client set up on my iphone and ipad to share articles 
from feeds with my wife. Can I keep it from fetching new mail while still doing 
this. I might want to see some messages on my computer where I do most of my 
interacting. If not, can I tell the IOS app not to delete the mail from the 
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Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Mike B]

Good morning Richard,

Where does one find the delete from server setting in the iPhone Mail app? 
Running iOS 14.4.2.  I haven't run across this setting and would like to. 
Thanks much.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device


If your email on the phone is set as iMap, it will not remove them from the 
server unless you set it to remove from server when you delete it on your 
phone.
Easy answer, do your deleting on the computer.
If your phone is set to use Pop3, you can go into the settings and tell it 
to leave messages on the server.
HTH,





Richard
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discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt


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  On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


  
  Hello. I have the mail client set up on my iphone and ipad to share 
articles from feeds with my wife. Can I keep it from fetching new mail while 
still doing this. I might want to see some messages on my computer where I 
do most of my interacting. If not, can I tell the IOS app not to delete the 
mail from the server.




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Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Richard Turner]

If your email on the phone is set as iMap, it will not remove them from the 
server unless you set it to remove from server when you delete it on your phone.
Easy answer, do your deleting on the computer.
If your phone is set to use Pop3, you can go into the settings and tell it to 
leave messages on the server.
HTH,



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On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


Hello. I have the mail client set up on my iphone and ipad to share articles 
from feeds with my wife. Can I keep it from fetching new mail while still doing 
this. I might want to see some messages on my computer where I do most of my 
interacting. If not, can I tell the IOS app not to delete the mail from the 
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keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

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from feeds with my wife. Can I keep it from fetching new mail while still
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RE: Apple getting cheap

[Christopher Chaltain]

Well, it's kind of naive and short sighted to think that the pandemic and 
pollution don't impact you including having to pay extra money and taxes.

I for one am glad Apple, Samsung and others are making this move. I don't 
believe for a minute though that it isn't helping these companies financially, 
and I'd like to see their savings passed on to the consumer, but I'm also 
willing to pay a little bit extra if it means a better planet for me and my 
children.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
English
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 2:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap

Hi Simon,

The things that you've mentioned are not things I think about, because for the 
most part (pandemic, climate change, gun crime) I couldn't care less about 
them. I care about things that'll affect me, and having to pay extra money is 
one of those things.

On 4/16/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Good points, there,
>
> Yeah if people are really unhappy about apple dropping the power 
> brick,
>
> Go buy a Samsung,
>
> Oh that's right they 'are dropping the charging bricks form their 
> phones also.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 3:19 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>
> Again, I think folks are missing the point. No one's not going to not 
> buy an iPhone over a now no longer included wall charger.
> It's that Apple's removed this accessory under the guise (and with 
> likely
> merit) of environmentalism when really, it's a way to cut down on cost 
> from manufacturing, sourcing materials to shipping (in those 
> quantities, the difference adds up quickly) and is still charging the 
> same price. It's not like they're getting out of the wall charger 
> business. I mean, you can still buy one from them. It's just another 
> way for them to nibble around the edges, get some good press and keep 
> the same price. It comes off as chincy from a brand that holds itself 
> up as a luxury and consumer friendly company .
> But no... people would rather carry on like a scold while again, 
> missing the actual point.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Maria Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>
> Stuff it!
>
>
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
>
> On 4/15/2021 7:59 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> Yeah cheap,
>>
>> So I'm guessing people didn't listen to tim cook when he said they 
>> were getting rid of the power bricks in the boxes for the devices,
>>
>> It's not about being cheap,
>> It's more to do with apple trying to get back in to the eco friendly 
>> world and save the planet from excess plastic  that we don't need to 
>> clutter our lives with,
>>
>> Plus the fact that majority of the people around the planet who have 
>> had or have apple mobile devices already have a couple of charging 
>> bricks lying around and therefore those will still do the job they 
>> were made for,
>>
>> So if you have one already,
>> Why complain about them being left out of the box for a phone or 
>> iPad,
>>
>> I really love how these serious first world problems bug you guys so 
>> much,
>>
>> Imagine if we had real problems around the planet like a pendemic 
>> virus and millions dying,
>>
>> But you guys get upset because apple leave a $20 peace of plastic 
>> shit out of a box.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of lenron brown
>> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 7:18 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>>
>> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't 
>> for get the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, 
>> and airpods when they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them 
>> not putting them in the box.
>>
>> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw 
>>> where Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them 
>>> or Google with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just 
>>> don’t need all this extra crap going out into the environment. I 
>>> have an iPad charger from a really old iPad mini that still works 
>>> just fine. And of course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a 
>>> USB see power block which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It 
>>> didn’t exactly break the bank.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz 
 
 wrote:

 I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and 
 accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I 
 also definitely think that 

Re: Apple getting cheap

[James English]

Hi Simon,

The things that you've mentioned are not things I think about, because
for the most part (pandemic, climate change, gun crime) I couldn't
care less about them. I care about things that'll affect me, and
having to pay extra money is one of those things.

On 4/16/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Good points, there,
>
> Yeah if people are really unhappy about apple dropping the power brick,
>
> Go buy a Samsung,
>
> Oh that's right they 'are dropping the charging bricks form their phones
> also.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 3:19 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>
> Again, I think folks are missing the point. No one's not going to not buy an
> iPhone over a now no longer included wall charger.
> It's that Apple's removed this accessory under the guise (and with likely
> merit) of environmentalism when really, it's a way to cut down on cost from
> manufacturing, sourcing materials to shipping (in those quantities, the
> difference adds up quickly) and is still charging the same price. It's not
> like they're getting out of the wall charger business. I mean, you can still
> buy one from them. It's just another way for them to nibble around the
> edges, get some good press and keep the same price. It comes off as chincy
> from a brand that holds itself up as a luxury and consumer friendly company
> .
> But no... people would rather carry on like a scold while again, missing the
> actual point.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria
> Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>
> Stuff it!
>
>
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
>
> On 4/15/2021 7:59 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> Yeah cheap,
>>
>> So I'm guessing people didn't listen to tim cook when he said they
>> were getting rid of the power bricks in the boxes for the devices,
>>
>> It's not about being cheap,
>> It's more to do with apple trying to get back in to the eco friendly
>> world and save the planet from excess plastic  that we don't need to
>> clutter our lives with,
>>
>> Plus the fact that majority of the people around the planet who have
>> had or have apple mobile devices already have a couple of charging
>> bricks lying around and therefore those will still do the job they
>> were made for,
>>
>> So if you have one already,
>> Why complain about them being left out of the box for a phone or iPad,
>>
>> I really love how these serious first world problems bug you guys so
>> much,
>>
>> Imagine if we had real problems around the planet like a pendemic
>> virus and millions dying,
>>
>> But you guys get upset because apple leave a $20 peace of plastic shit out
>> of a box.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> lenron brown
>> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 7:18 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>>
>> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't for get
>> the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, and airpods
>> when they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them not putting them
>> in the box.
>>
>> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw where
>>> Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them or
>>> Google with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just
>>> don’t need all this extra crap going out into the environment. I have
>>> an iPad charger from a really old iPad mini that still works just
>>> fine. And of course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a USB see
>>> power block which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It didn’t exactly
>>> break the bank.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz
 
 wrote:

 I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and
 accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I
 also definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a
 convenient and specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut
 the cost of production and logistics and still charge the same under
 the cover of being environmentally conscious.
 Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is
 going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of
 buying an iPhone. Just more nickel and diming from Apple.
 Cristóbal

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
 Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:34 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap

 Apple says it is for the environment because most people have 

RE: Apple getting cheap

[Simon A Fogarty]

Good points, there,

Yeah if people are really unhappy about apple dropping the power brick,

Go buy a Samsung,

Oh that's right they 'are dropping the charging bricks form their phones also.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 3:19 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap

Again, I think folks are missing the point. No one's not going to not buy an 
iPhone over a now no longer included wall charger.
It's that Apple's removed this accessory under the guise (and with likely 
merit) of environmentalism when really, it's a way to cut down on cost from 
manufacturing, sourcing materials to shipping (in those quantities, the 
difference adds up quickly) and is still charging the same price. It's not like 
they're getting out of the wall charger business. I mean, you can still buy one 
from them. It's just another way for them to nibble around the edges, get some 
good press and keep the same price. It comes off as chincy from a brand that 
holds itself up as a luxury and consumer friendly company . 
But no... people would rather carry on like a scold while again, missing the 
actual point.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap

Stuff it!


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 4/15/2021 7:59 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Yeah cheap,
>
> So I'm guessing people didn't listen to tim cook when he said they 
> were getting rid of the power bricks in the boxes for the devices,
>
> It's not about being cheap,
> It's more to do with apple trying to get back in to the eco friendly 
> world and save the planet from excess plastic  that we don't need to 
> clutter our lives with,
>
> Plus the fact that majority of the people around the planet who have 
> had or have apple mobile devices already have a couple of charging 
> bricks lying around and therefore those will still do the job they 
> were made for,
>
> So if you have one already,
> Why complain about them being left out of the box for a phone or iPad,
>
> I really love how these serious first world problems bug you guys so 
> much,
>
> Imagine if we had real problems around the planet like a pendemic 
> virus and millions dying,
>
> But you guys get upset because apple leave a $20 peace of plastic shit out of 
> a box.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> lenron brown
> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 7:18 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>
> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't for get 
> the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, and airpods when 
> they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them not putting them in the 
> box.
>
> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw where 
>> Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them or 
>> Google with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just 
>> don’t need all this extra crap going out into the environment. I have 
>> an iPad charger from a really old iPad mini that still works just 
>> fine. And of course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a USB see 
>> power block which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It didn’t exactly 
>> break the bank.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and 
>>> accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I 
>>> also definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a 
>>> convenient and specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut 
>>> the cost of production and logistics and still charge the same under 
>>> the cover of being environmentally conscious.
>>> Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is 
>>> going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of 
>>> buying an iPhone. Just more nickel and diming from Apple.
>>> Cristóbal
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:34 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>>>
>>> Apple says it is for the environment because most people have all 
>>> the chargers they need and more.
>>> That is certainly  true in our household.
>>> I happen to agree with Apple in this case.
>>> We have enough (Expletive deleted) stuff in the landfills and ocean 
>>> now to last many life times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>>> but what they become by it."
>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>>
>>> Web site: 

RE: Apple getting cheap

[Simon A Fogarty]

yeah well at least I'm keeping a level head about the really important things 
in life.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 3:20 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap

Don't throw your shoulder out there patting yourself on the back. 
Missing the point.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap

I guess some people don't like the truth!

Oh well!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
ed...@cox.net
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 2:53 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap

Lol!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap

Stuff it!


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 4/15/2021 7:59 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Yeah cheap,
>
> So I'm guessing people didn't listen to tim cook when he said they 
> were getting rid of the power bricks in the boxes for the devices,
>
> It's not about being cheap,
> It's more to do with apple trying to get back in to the eco friendly 
> world and save the planet from excess plastic  that we don't need to 
> clutter our lives with,
>
> Plus the fact that majority of the people around the planet who have 
> had or have apple mobile devices already have a couple of charging 
> bricks lying around and therefore those will still do the job they 
> were made for,
>
> So if you have one already,
> Why complain about them being left out of the box for a phone or iPad,
>
> I really love how these serious first world problems bug you guys so 
> much,
>
> Imagine if we had real problems around the planet like a pendemic 
> virus and millions dying,
>
> But you guys get upset because apple leave a $20 peace of plastic shit out of 
> a box.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> lenron brown
> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 7:18 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>
> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't for get 
> the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, and airpods when 
> they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them not putting them in the 
> box.
>
> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw where 
>> Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them or 
>> Google with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just 
>> don’t need all this extra crap going out into the environment. I have 
>> an iPad charger from a really old iPad mini that still works just 
>> fine. And of course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a USB see 
>> power block which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It didn’t exactly 
>> break the bank.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and 
>>> accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I 
>>> also definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a 
>>> convenient and specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut 
>>> the cost of production and logistics and still charge the same under 
>>> the cover of being environmentally conscious.
>>> Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is 
>>> going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of 
>>> buying an iPhone. Just more nickel and diming from Apple.
>>> Cristóbal
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:34 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>>>
>>> Apple says it is for the environment because most people have all 
>>> the chargers they need and more.
>>> That is certainly  true in our household.
>>> I happen to agree with Apple in this case.
>>> We have enough (Expletive deleted) stuff in the landfills and ocean 
>>> now to last many life times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>>> but what they become by it."
>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>>
>>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Mich Verrier
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq
>>>
>>>  From what I herd apple is not shipping any of there phones with 
>>> chargers since they want you to buy them seppritley since you have 
>>> to remember that apple's