date:20210921

a quick web search found this one:

https://groups.io/g/blindandroidusers



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On Sep 21, 2021, at 7:49 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:

Can someone please give me the address of the android phone list?

Thanks much,

ann

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Android list?

2021-09-21 Thread Ann Byrne


Can someone please give me the address of the android phone list?

Thanks much,

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RE: Face recognition

Joshua,
Have you ever had a tactile/braille watch?
Or a tactile compass?
12 o'clock would be north.  3 o'clock would be east, 6 o'clock would be South 
and 9 o'clock would be West.
You are essentially drawing a circle.

Just like with Touch ID you always have the option to use your passcode instead.

HTH,




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode instead. 
 I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your passcode when 
using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple years ago, then I 
would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face ID.

On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
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> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our 
> apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face. 
> The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to 
> the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy 
> at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it myself. 
> If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Face recognition
>
> I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in 
> to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted 
> help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.
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Re: Face recognition

2021-09-21 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode
instead.  I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your
passcode when using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a
couple years ago, then I would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up
face ID.

On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our
> apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face. The
> phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to the left;
> turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy at Wal-Mart
> couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it myself. If I can,
> probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Face recognition
>
> I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in to
> this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted help?  What
> should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
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RE: Face recognition

Hi Kay,

As others have said,

You’ll be fine,

There are very clear verbal instructions
While you are setting up face id,

It instructs you about where in screen and focus your face is,
And how far away your arm should be with the phone,

And then where to look
>From memory it starts by having you turn your face to the right and then 
>should go anti clockwise.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2021 8:39 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face recognition

I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in to this, 
How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted help?  What should I 
expect?  Thanks much for any input.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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Re: IOS 14.8 and Voice Dream Reader?

2021-09-21 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

My iPhone 8, shows all my books in Voice Dream Reader as well.  Good luck.

On 9/21/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I did not have that happen on two different phones. But I feel your pain,
> because I’ve had it happen twice in the past. Good luck!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 21, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I did not have that happen when I went to 14.8.
>> Have you written the developer: supp...@voicedream.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
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>> From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:41 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: IOS 14.8 and Voice Dream Reader?
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> I just updated my IOS to 14.8 and now I'm told that none of my Voice Dream
>> Reader books are available to me.  I refreshed the app and rebooted my
>> phone with no success.
>>
>>
>> Anyone else having this issue and more importantly know of a solution?
>>
>>
>> As always thanks!
>>
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Re: IOS 14.8 and Voice Dream Reader?

2021-09-21 Thread Mary Otten

I did not have that happen on two different phones. But I feel your pain, 
because I’ve had it happen twice in the past. Good luck!


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I did not have that happen when I went to 14.8.
> Have you written the developer: supp...@voicedream.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> - Jane Wagner
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: IOS 14.8 and Voice Dream Reader?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> I just updated my IOS to 14.8 and now I'm told that none of my Voice Dream 
> Reader books are available to me.  I refreshed the app and rebooted my phone 
> with no success.
> 
> 
> Anyone else having this issue and more importantly know of a solution?
> 
> 
> As always thanks!
> 
> 
> Kim
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RE: IOS 14.8 and Voice Dream Reader?

I did not have that happen when I went to 14.8.
Have you written the developer: supp...@voicedream.com




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-Original Message-
From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS 14.8 and Voice Dream Reader?

Hello,


I just updated my IOS to 14.8 and now I'm told that none of my Voice Dream 
Reader books are available to me.  I refreshed the app and rebooted my phone 
with no success.


Anyone else having this issue and more importantly know of a solution?


As always thanks!


Kim

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IOS 14.8 and Voice Dream Reader?

2021-09-21 Thread 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone

Hello,


I just updated my IOS to 14.8 and now I’m told that none of my Voice Dream 
Reader books are available to me.  I refreshed the app and rebooted my phone 
with no success.


Anyone else having this issue and more importantly know of a solution?


As always thanks!


Kim

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RE: Face recognition

A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.

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Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Face recognition

Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our apartment. 
You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face. The phone will tell 
you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to the left; turn your head 
slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial 
ID, but I was able to do it myself. If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone 
users can. 

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Kay Malmquist
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Subject: Face recognition

I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in to this, 
How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted help?  What should I 
expect?  Thanks much for any input.

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kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  

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RE: Face recognition

You don't need sighted help, just as with Touch Id you are guided as to what 
you should do. Keep in mind that you can always delete your Face Id and set it 
up again, also a good idea at least for setup to be in a reasonably well 
lighted room. Once Face Id is set up it works in total darkness because it uses 
IR light to scan your face and light is not required.

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Sent: September 21, 2021 1:39 PM
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Subject: Face recognition

I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in to this, 
How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted help?  What should I 
expect?  Thanks much for any input.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

That is a known bug which apparently exists more on certain devices than 
others, but I would recommend you visit www.Applevis.com and read the article 
which was also posted here on Sunday.
You can work around it by swiping left and if it doesn't say the app name, 
swipe left one more time and then right again and the app name will be spoken.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: September 21, 2021 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS15 Initial impressions

I have an iPhone 11 and have noticed a couple of times when going through the 
App Switcher where it will say Active instead of the app's name that is active. 
Not a huge deal but I will pay closer attention to see if it happens all the 
time or just sometimes.

Wayne Merritt

On 9/21/21, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> Well it might be I am using a iPhone 8 after all. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 21, 2021 3:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions
>
> Then I wonder if it is device specific, I can swipe left and right to 
> my heart's content through all the cards in my wallet app and I have 
> about 6 or
> 7 in there.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mich Verrier
> Sent: September 21, 2021 11:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions
>
> When I oapin the wallit app and try swipeing right it closes the app 
> and crashiss it. I can't swipe left or anything with out it crashing. 
> I know it is a bug and hear's hopeing that it will be fixt in a later 
> update. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 21, 2021 2:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions
>
> I read this on Applevis, but I just went to the Wallet app and had no 
> issues, I was able to swipe left through my cards and back right, I 
> noticed I had some expired Air Canada boarding passes in there so I 
> opened them and after tapping "More" I could tap on "Remove Pass" as always.
> I also have used the share sheet without issues I have an iPhone 11 
> and I can't remember if they said it was the share sheet where some 
> people had issues on certain devices?
> Lastly, I opened the clock app and went to the Alarm tab, I tapped on "Add"
> and I had the pickers for hours, minutes and AM/PM just as always, I 
> was able to set the time and save the alarm. The thing is that I 
> rarely need an alarm because I wake up on myown, but if I do I hardly 
> ever go into the Clock app to set it anyways because SIRI is so good 
> at it and you can even ask SIRI what alarms you have and it will list 
> them, you can tell SIRI if you want to delete a particular alarm or change 
> it, much faster and easier.
> As I said, so far I have no issues I am worried about, there is that 
> with the app switcher where I may have to swipe left and back to the 
> right because Voiceover may not tell me the name of an app, but 
> swiping left once and back to the right really is just a small inconvenience.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: September 21, 2021 11:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions
>
> Hello
>
> Then play around in the clock app, see your cards in the wallet app or 
> try to share something with the share sheet.
>
> I am gladd toot hat what I see now, the ios is less buggy than let's 
> say
> ios11 and the initial ios13 but there are still some nasty glidges but 
> as I told if fone decides these well known glidges are not that 
> important, then go go go an dupdate.
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Star 
> Gazer
> Verzonden: dinsdag 21 september 2021 17:21
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions
>
> I haven't updated yet. When I do, how do I get to the focused notifications?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions
>
> Personally I don't find there is much of a difference on my iPhone 11 
> in terms of speed and responsiveness. I also haven't come across any 
> serious issues.
> I have only used SIRI a little since yesterday asking to call somebody 
> and dictating a few short messages, but so far it may just be a little 
> better which one would hope now that all SIRI requests are handled on 
> device and not in the cloud any more. I really hope SIRI saying 
> "Working on that" or "Still working on that" will not be an issue any 
> more because lately that happened too often for my liking. If I ask 
> SIRI to call one of my contacts I

RE: App for counting steps

Hey folks,

You could check out strava
I’m not sure how it works with just walking but I know people that use it for 
running and highly recommend it as a step counter.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
pegkan...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2021 10:56 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App for counting steps


Hi Esther,
Are you able to read the screen on the watch, or do you have to use your phone 
to use all of the functions?? I once had a small Fitbit that had no screen on 
it I really liked it but it stopped working after a time.
Any information you could give me would greatly be appreciated.
Thank you very much and take care.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On Sep 21, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
hi, Peg, I have the Fitbit charge 4  and I really like it. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Sep 21, 2021, at 5:02 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hi Esther,
Just wondering which fit bit you currently are using?? I did not know there 
were any that could be used with an iPhone.
Thanks for the information.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On Sep 21, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
hi, everyone, no, I never did try it with swimming. I know my device is 
waterproof, but I am always afraid to get it wet! Ha ha! Maybe it's just 
something that I need to get over. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:52 PM, kitty hevener 
mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Ester, have you ever tried using fit bit for swimming or other aquatic 
activities?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App for counting steps

I use a device called the Fitbit. I really like it a lot. I have the charge 
for. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!



On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Well, you burst my bubble.
Apparently, the built-in pedometer is known for inconsistent readings.
I found an article on what is supposed to be the 10 best pedometer apps as of 
February 2021.
My conclusion is that if the app depends on the built-in pedometer, it is no 
more accurate than the built-in one.
I wonder about apps that use GPS, though I thought the built-in one did.  
Anyway, here is a link to that article.
The 10 Best Pedometer Apps for iPhone in 2021 - 
VodyTech




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
terrie...@twc.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App for counting steps

Hi everyone,
I have heard that the iPhone and other step-counting hardware adds steps if one 
taps one’s feet or uses a keyboard. If so, how can you hope to get a reasonably 
 accurate  step count or measurement of distance walked? I would appreciate 
advice on whether the iPhone adds steps wen the body makes movements other than 
walking. I would also appreciate recommendations for apps or other hardware 
that can give an accurate step count or distance walked measure. Thanks for any 
suggestions you can give.
Best,
Terrie Terlau
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App for counting steps

Applevis is probably one of the best and most comprehensive web sites with tons 
of app reviews and tutorials.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: September 20, 2021 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App for counting steps

Hi people,
I have this new phone and have been thinking I need to exercise more and saw 
that someone was keeping track of their steps and how many miles they had 
walked.  Of course, I have known you can do this, but could someone tell me how 
to set this up?  First I want to thank you all for answering all my questions.  
Next I want you to know that I look up a lot of things before I ask.  Last, I 
am warning you that I suspect I will have many more questions.  Is there a 
resource that is available to tell a blind person about the new things in 14?  
Yes, I realize that 15 has come out, but for now I want to learn 14 and

Re: App for counting steps

2021-09-21 Thread pegkane52

Hi Esther,
Are you able to read the screen on the watch, or do you have to use your phone 
to use all of the functions?? I once had a small Fitbit that had no screen on 
it I really liked it but it stopped working after a time.
Any information you could give me would greatly be appreciated.
Thank you very much and take care.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> hi, Peg, I have the Fitbit charge 4  and I really like it. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2021, at 5:02 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Esther,
>> Just wondering which fit bit you currently are using?? I did not know there 
>> were any that could be used with an iPhone.
>> Thanks for the information.
>> Peggy
>> 
>> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
>> 
 On Sep 21, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Esther Levegnale  
 wrote:

>>> hi, everyone, no, I never did try it with swimming. I know my device is 
>>> waterproof, but I am always afraid to get it wet! Ha ha! Maybe it's just 
>>> something that I need to get over. Esther
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>> 
> On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:52 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 

 Ester, have you ever tried using fit bit for swimming or other aquatic 
 activities? 

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Esther Levegnale
 Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: App for counting steps

 I use a device called the Fitbit. I really like it a lot. I have the 
 charge for. Esther

 Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:

 Well, you burst my bubble.
 Apparently, the built-in pedometer is known for inconsistent readings.
 I found an article on what is supposed to be the 10 best pedometer apps as 
 of February 2021.
 My conclusion is that if the app depends on the built-in pedometer, it is 
 no more accurate than the built-in one.
 I wonder about apps that use GPS, though I thought the built-in one did.  
 Anyway, here is a link to that article.
 The 10 Best Pedometer Apps for iPhone in 2021 - VodyTech

 Richard
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
 it.” – Jane Wagner

 My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 terrie...@twc.com
 Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:31 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: App for counting steps

 Hi everyone,
 I have heard that the iPhone and other step-counting hardware adds steps 
 if one taps one’s feet or uses a keyboard. If so, how can you hope to get 
 a reasonably  accurate  step count or measurement of distance walked? I 
 would appreciate advice on whether the iPhone adds steps wen the body 
 makes movements other than walking. I would also appreciate 
 recommendations for apps or other hardware that can give an accurate step 
 count or distance walked measure. Thanks for any suggestions you can give.
 Best,
 Terrie Terlau
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:23 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: App for counting steps

 Applevis is probably one of the best and most comprehensive web sites with 
 tons of app reviews and tutorials.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
 Malmquist
 Sent: September 20, 2021 7:00 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: App for counting steps

 Hi people,
 I have this new phone and have been thinking I need to exercise more and 
 saw that someone was keeping track of their steps and how many miles they 
 had walked.  Of course, I have known you can do this, but could someone 
 tell me how to set this up?  First I want to thank you all for answering 
 all my questions.  Next I want you to know that I look up a lot of things 
 before I ask.  Last, I am warning you that I suspect I will have many more 
 questions.  Is there a resource that is available to tell a blind person 
 about the new things in 14?  Yes, I realize that 15 has come out, but for 
 now I want to learn 14 and then move on.  Thanks much all.

 Kay Malmquist
 kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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RE: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

It has to do with some combination of having Siri or VoiceOver read the alerts 
and not, and I have not settled on a good answer yet.
I have my first gen SE on iOS 15 and got Big Beg, the Westminster clock app 
working, but the notifications keep being read in the notifications and I 
thought I got that stopped, but not yet.
Too bloody many settings ...




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

Hi Richard.

I followed your instructions. The good news is I'm hearing the sound that I got 
an email. The bad news is the message is being read. It happens even when the 
phone is locked. How do I stop that, while still having other notifications 
read?

Thanks in advance.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

In iOS 15, there is another layer to successfully get sound notifications.

Open Settings, Mail.
Double tap on Notifications.
Now, swipe right with one finger until you get to Customize Notifications.
Double tap on that.
Now, you have separate settings for each mail account.
Make sure you have what you want set for the sound here.

You can also get to that screen through the main Settings, Notifications.

HTH,



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

I am not getting sound notification when I get a new email but texting and 
everything else seems to work fine Jen

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Same here, Gera. I even sent one to myself from the computer, another 
> address that I don't have on my phone, so sent to the phone. I checked later. 
> The email is there, but I got no notification signal that an email came. 
> 
> Now, I wonder if that will happen with text messages too? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 1:33 PM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 this morning, with the native Email app, no longer 
> notifies me when Emails are fetched, or when I receive Emails; in previous 
> versions of iOS it did this with no problem! I went into the notifications 
> from Settings and things look alright from there. Afterwards I went into Mail 
> from Settings, Fetch and everything seems to be there alright too! What I 
> missing? It feels so weird without te Email alerts from time to time! Thanks 
> for any tips, or is this an iOS15 bug?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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RE: the best settings to make IOS 15 work good on your phone

Bluetooth was on, when my update was completed, and then when I turned it off 
and back on. 

On the last update, I was not on the Net, and Do Not Disturb was on from 10 to 
7. I didn't want any of that stuff. I do not like for my settings to be 
tampered with. 

-Original Message-
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best settings to make IOS 15 work good on your phone
Importance: High

on both of my iPhones, which are both iPhone X, I didn't need to change any 
settings, I just ran the update, and then let the phone sit plugged in for a 
few hours, so that it could do anything else it wanted to with out outside 
interference, and that seems to have done the trick.
I don't know about the wallet issue, as so far I don't used that feature, but 
the app switcher is working as normal for example.
as an aside, I also ran the watch OS 8 update on both of my apple watch series 
5 watches.
hope this helps you.

Simon


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Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 9:58 PM
Subject: the best settings to make IOS 15 work good on your phone


> Hi like A let of us hear have 14.8 on my phone.
>
> Thinking about upgrading to 15 now or should I wait?
>
> And when I do what are the best way to set up IOS 15 to give me the best 
> results?
>
> Also after I update should I power off my phone and restart it after 
> updating it and if so for how long should I leave it powered off after 
> updating it to restart it?
>
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Re: App for counting steps

2021-09-21 Thread Esther Levegnale

hi, Peg, I have the Fitbit charge 4  and I really like it. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 5:02 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Esther,
> Just wondering which fit bit you currently are using?? I did not know there 
> were any that could be used with an iPhone.
> Thanks for the information.
> Peggy
> 
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Esther Levegnale  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> hi, everyone, no, I never did try it with swimming. I know my device is 
>> waterproof, but I am always afraid to get it wet! Ha ha! Maybe it's just 
>> something that I need to get over. Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
 On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:52 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Ester, have you ever tried using fit bit for swimming or other aquatic 
>>> activities? 
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Esther Levegnale
>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:10 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: App for counting steps
>>>  
>>> I use a device called the Fitbit. I really like it a lot. I have the charge 
>>> for. Esther
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well, you burst my bubble.
>>> Apparently, the built-in pedometer is known for inconsistent readings.
>>> I found an article on what is supposed to be the 10 best pedometer apps as 
>>> of February 2021.
>>> My conclusion is that if the app depends on the built-in pedometer, it is 
>>> no more accurate than the built-in one.
>>> I wonder about apps that use GPS, though I thought the built-in one did.  
>>> Anyway, here is a link to that article.
>>> The 10 Best Pedometer Apps for iPhone in 2021 - VodyTech
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.” – Jane Wagner
>>>  
>>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> terrie...@twc.com
>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:31 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: App for counting steps
>>>  
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I have heard that the iPhone and other step-counting hardware adds steps if 
>>> one taps one’s feet or uses a keyboard. If so, how can you hope to get a 
>>> reasonably  accurate  step count or measurement of distance walked? I would 
>>> appreciate advice on whether the iPhone adds steps wen the body makes 
>>> movements other than walking. I would also appreciate recommendations for 
>>> apps or other hardware that can give an accurate step count or distance 
>>> walked measure. Thanks for any suggestions you can give.
>>> Best,
>>> Terrie Terlau
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:23 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: App for counting steps
>>>  
>>> Applevis is probably one of the best and most comprehensive web sites with 
>>> tons of app reviews and tutorials.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
>>> Malmquist
>>> Sent: September 20, 2021 7:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: App for counting steps
>>>  
>>> Hi people,
>>> I have this new phone and have been thinking I need to exercise more and 
>>> saw that someone was keeping track of their steps and how many miles they 
>>> had walked.  Of course, I have known you can do this, but could someone 
>>> tell me how to set this up?  First I want to thank you all for answering 
>>> all my questions.  Next I want you to know that I look up a lot of things 
>>> before I ask.  Last, I am warning you that I suspect I will have many more 
>>> questions.  Is there a resource that is available to tell a blind person 
>>> about the new things in 14?  Yes, I realize that 15 has come out, but for 
>>> now I want to learn 14 and then move on.  Thanks much all.
>>> 
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>  
>>> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
>>> Bob Proctor
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Re: the best settings to make IOS 15 work good on your phone

2021-09-21 Thread goshawk on horseback

on both of my iPhones, which are both iPhone X, I didn't need to change any 
settings, I just ran the update, and then let the phone sit plugged in for a 
few hours, so that it could do anything else it wanted to with out outside 
interference, and that seems to have done the trick.
I don't know about the wallet issue, as so far I don't used that feature, 
but the app switcher is working as normal for example.
as an aside, I also ran the watch OS 8 update on both of my apple watch 
series 5 watches.

hope this helps you.

Simon


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From: "Casey" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 9:58 PM
Subject: the best settings to make IOS 15 work good on your phone



Hi like A let of us hear have 14.8 on my phone.

Thinking about upgrading to 15 now or should I wait?

And when I do what are the best way to set up IOS 15 to give me the best 
results?


Also after I update should I power off my phone and restart it after 
updating it and if so for how long should I leave it powered off after 
updating it to restart it?


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Re: Face recognition

2021-09-21 Thread Kay Malmquist

Ok,  That makes perfect sense.  I don't think I'll have any trouble with 
that at all.  At least I know now what to expect.  Thanks bunches.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 3:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Face recognition


  kay, you probably won't need sighted assistance if you know what clockwise 
means, visually. Not everyone does anymore; but I suspect you do.
  When you start the process, VoiceOver speaks the instructions quite well.
  You will start by holding the phone roughly I think a foot in frront of 
your face, with your nose pointed at the center of the screen.
  Then, when it tells you to start rotating your head it will have you look 
up to 12 o'clock as if you were facing a clock.
  Then gradually pretend you are looking toward 3 o'clock, 6, 9, and back to 
12.
  You usually have to go through it a couple times.
  That is what I remember from many months ago.
  That should get you started.
  I'll be doing this on Friday chwhen my new phone arrives.





  Richard
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it." -- Jane Wagner









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On Sep 21, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:



I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in to 
this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted help?  What 
should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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Re: The Evolution of the iPhone: Every Model from 2007–2021

2021-09-21 Thread Esther Levegnale

hi, Richard, thank you for sharing that very interesting history of the phone. 
That was really neat. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I ran across this article and thought it was worth sharing, the link to the 
> source is at the end.
>  
> The Evolution of the iPhone: Every Model from 2007–2021
> By Conner Carey Updated 09/20/2021
> What was the first iPhone to come out? When did the first iPhone come out? We 
> have the full history of the iPhone right here through the iPhone 13. This 
> article will cover the evolution of iPhone models throughout the years, and 
> discuss the notable changes made with each release.
>  
> iPhone: June 29, 2007
>  
> Can you believe 16 GB is all you could put on the original iPhone? Granted, 
> there wasn't nearly as much data to put on the iPhone yet and certainly no 
> App Store. But you had access to the internet on a screen you could actually 
> see it on, unlike the flip and slider phones of the time. And it could only 
> handle 128 MB of memory. The camera was 2.0 megapixels—so, terrible. But a 
> phone with a camera! Holy moly!
>  
> iPhone 3G: July 11, 2008
>  
> As far as internal specs go, the iPhone 3G wasn't much different than the 
> original iPhone. But now there was an App Store! This iPhone got its moniker 
> for its 3G connectivity, which meant access to internet you could actually 
> use without wanting to throw the iPhone across the room.
>  
> iPhone 3GS: June 19, 2009
>  
> Apple introduced the 32 GB storage option with the iPhone 3GS, doubling it 
> from the first iPhone. Clearly, introducing the App Store changed things 
> quickly. Between photos, music, and apps, 16 GB just wasn't going to cut it. 
> The camera got an upgrade to 3 MP and added video recording. Apple also added 
> Voice Control, although we’d have to wait a couple more years before the 
> introduction of Siri.
>  
> iPhone 4: June 24, 2010
>  
> Now we’re getting somewhere. The iPhone 4 was the first iPhone to have a 
> front-facing camera. Little did Apple know, selfies would take over the 
> world. The iPhone 4 also got a Retina display. With 512 MB memory, it was 
> equipped to handle a lot more than even the iPhone 3GS, which only had 256 MB 
> of memory. You can see the technology was beginning to look a little more 
> familiar, but 32 GB was still the maximum amount of storage the iPhone could 
> hold.
>  
> iPhone 4S: October 14, 2011
>  
> Talk about a huge difference between the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S: the 
> camera went from 5 MP to a whopping 8 MP. Now, that’s an upgrade. Apple also 
> introduced the 64 GB storage option but kept the memory at 512 MB. Video 
> could then be recorded in 1080p. Oh, I can’t forget—hello, Siri! Apple sold 
> four million units of the iPhone 4S in its first week.
>  
> iPhone 5: September 21, 2012
>  
> Apple sold 5 million units of the iPhone 5 in its first week. The camera 
> stayed the same but memory was boosted all the way up to 1 GB. You thought 3G 
> was cool? Psh, the iPhone 5 had LTE connectivity. Hello, internet everywhere! 
> Apple also introduced the Lightning connector with the iPhone 5. And for the 
> first time, the screen got bigger! All previous generations' displays were 
> 3.5 inches, but the iPhone 5 was 4 inches.
>  
> iPhone 5s & iPhone 5c: September 20, 2013
>  
> Between the iPhone 5s and the iPhone 5c, Apple sold nine million units in the 
> first week of sales. The iPhone 5c was meant to be slightly more affordable 
> and had a plastic shell. It was available in four different colors, but not 
> too much else was different. The iPhone 5s, on the other hand, introduced 
> Touch ID, dual flash, and slow-motion video. Plus, it included the M7 motion 
> coprocessor, which opened a new realm of possibilities and also helped save 
> battery life.
>  
> iPhone 6 & 6 Plus: September 19, 2014
>  
> Apple tends to make larger leaps between the original model and the S edition 
> than it does from the S edition to a new model. The iPhone 6's internal specs 
> were very similar to those of the iPhone 5s. The biggest difference was 
> having a significantly larger screen and offering an even larger size called 
> 6 Plus. The Retina display became HD, and the option to get an iPhone with 
> 128 GB of storage became available. But the amount of memory was the same, 
> and the camera didn't see a megapixel upgrade. But it didn't matter—Apple 
> sold 10 million units in the first week.
>  
> iPhone 6s & 6s Plus: September 19, 2015
>  
> The 6s changed everything. Well, not everything, it basically looked the 
> same. But inside, Apple upgraded the iPhone 6s quite a lot. The camera made a 
> huge leap forward going from 8 MP to 12 MP. The memory was also doubled from 
> 1 GB to 2 GB. After the iPhone 6 had some bending issues (#bendgate), Apple 
> gave the iPhone 6s 7000 series aluminum to make sure that never happened 
> again. Last but

RE: Face recognition

I forgot that clock stuff, but I am very much at home with the concept. 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

kay, you probably won't need sighted assistance if you know what clockwise 
means, visually. Not everyone does anymore; but I suspect you do. 
When you start the process, VoiceOver speaks the instructions quite well.
You will start by holding the phone roughly I think a foot in frront of your 
face, with your nose pointed at the center of the screen.
Then, when it tells you to start rotating your head it will have you look up to 
12 o'clock as if you were facing a clock.
Then gradually pretend you are looking toward 3 o'clock, 6, 9, and back to 12.
You usually have to go through it a couple times.
That is what I remember from many months ago.
That should get you started.
I'll be doing this on Friday chwhen my new phone arrives.

Richard
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Jane Wagner 

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I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in 
to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted help?  What 
should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.

Kay Malmquist
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RE: Face recognition

Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our apartment. 
You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face. The phone will tell 
you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to the left; turn your head 
slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial 
ID, but I was able to do it myself. If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone 
users can. 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face recognition

I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in to this, 
How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted help?  What should I 
expect?  Thanks much for any input.

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Re: App for counting steps

2021-09-21 Thread pegkane52


Hi Esther,
Just wondering which fit bit you currently are using?? I did not know there 
were any that could be used with an iPhone.
Thanks for the information.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> hi, everyone, no, I never did try it with swimming. I know my device is 
> waterproof, but I am always afraid to get it wet! Ha ha! Maybe it's just 
> something that I need to get over. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:52 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Ester, have you ever tried using fit bit for swimming or other aquatic 
>> activities? 
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Esther Levegnale
>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: App for counting steps
>>  
>> I use a device called the Fitbit. I really like it a lot. I have the charge 
>> for. Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Well, you burst my bubble.
>> Apparently, the built-in pedometer is known for inconsistent readings.
>> I found an article on what is supposed to be the 10 best pedometer apps as 
>> of February 2021.
>> My conclusion is that if the app depends on the built-in pedometer, it is no 
>> more accurate than the built-in one.
>> I wonder about apps that use GPS, though I thought the built-in one did.  
>> Anyway, here is a link to that article.
>> The 10 Best Pedometer Apps for iPhone in 2021 - VodyTech
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>> – Jane Wagner
>>  
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> terrie...@twc.com
>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:31 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: App for counting steps
>>  
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have heard that the iPhone and other step-counting hardware adds steps if 
>> one taps one’s feet or uses a keyboard. If so, how can you hope to get a 
>> reasonably  accurate  step count or measurement of distance walked? I would 
>> appreciate advice on whether the iPhone adds steps wen the body makes 
>> movements other than walking. I would also appreciate recommendations for 
>> apps or other hardware that can give an accurate step count or distance 
>> walked measure. Thanks for any suggestions you can give.
>> Best,
>> Terrie Terlau
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:23 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: App for counting steps
>>  
>> Applevis is probably one of the best and most comprehensive web sites with 
>> tons of app reviews and tutorials.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
>> Malmquist
>> Sent: September 20, 2021 7:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: App for counting steps
>>  
>> Hi people,
>> I have this new phone and have been thinking I need to exercise more and saw 
>> that someone was keeping track of their steps and how many miles they had 
>> walked.  Of course, I have known you can do this, but could someone tell me 
>> how to set this up?  First I want to thank you all for answering all my 
>> questions.  Next I want you to know that I look up a lot of things before I 
>> ask.  Last, I am warning you that I suspect I will have many more questions. 
>>  Is there a resource that is available to tell a blind person about the new 
>> things in 14?  Yes, I realize that 15 has come out, but for now I want to 
>> learn 14 and then move on.  Thanks much all.
>> 
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
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the best settings to make IOS 15 work good on your phone

2021-09-21 Thread Casey


Hi like A let of us hear have 14.8 on my phone.

Thinking about upgrading to 15 now or should I wait?

And when I do what are the best way to set up IOS 15 to give me the best 
results?


Also after I update should I power off my phone and restart it after 
updating it and if so for how long should I leave it powered off after 
updating it to restart it?


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Re: App for counting steps

2021-09-21 Thread Esther Levegnale

hi, everyone, no, I never did try it with swimming. I know my device is 
waterproof, but I am always afraid to get it wet! Ha ha! Maybe it's just 
something that I need to get over. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:52 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ester, have you ever tried using fit bit for swimming or other aquatic 
> activities? 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
> Levegnale
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: App for counting steps
>  
> I use a device called the Fitbit. I really like it a lot. I have the charge 
> for. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> 
> On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, you burst my bubble.
> Apparently, the built-in pedometer is known for inconsistent readings.
> I found an article on what is supposed to be the 10 best pedometer apps as of 
> February 2021.
> My conclusion is that if the app depends on the built-in pedometer, it is no 
> more accurate than the built-in one.
> I wonder about apps that use GPS, though I thought the built-in one did.  
> Anyway, here is a link to that article.
> The 10 Best Pedometer Apps for iPhone in 2021 - VodyTech
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> terrie...@twc.com
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: App for counting steps
>  
> Hi everyone,
> I have heard that the iPhone and other step-counting hardware adds steps if 
> one taps one’s feet or uses a keyboard. If so, how can you hope to get a 
> reasonably  accurate  step count or measurement of distance walked? I would 
> appreciate advice on whether the iPhone adds steps wen the body makes 
> movements other than walking. I would also appreciate recommendations for 
> apps or other hardware that can give an accurate step count or distance 
> walked measure. Thanks for any suggestions you can give.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: App for counting steps
>  
> Applevis is probably one of the best and most comprehensive web sites with 
> tons of app reviews and tutorials.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: September 20, 2021 7:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: App for counting steps
>  
> Hi people,
> I have this new phone and have been thinking I need to exercise more and saw 
> that someone was keeping track of their steps and how many miles they had 
> walked.  Of course, I have known you can do this, but could someone tell me 
> how to set this up?  First I want to thank you all for answering all my 
> questions.  Next I want you to know that I look up a lot of things before I 
> ask.  Last, I am warning you that I suspect I will have many more questions.  
> Is there a resource that is available to tell a blind person about the new 
> things in 14?  Yes, I realize that 15 has come out, but for now I want to 
> learn 14 and then move on.  Thanks much all.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
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Re: Face recognition

kay, you probably won't need sighted assistance if you know what clockwise 
means, visually. Not everyone does anymore; but I suspect you do.
When you start the process, VoiceOver speaks the instructions quite well.
You will start by holding the phone roughly I think a foot in frront of your 
face, with your nose pointed at the center of the screen.
Then, when it tells you to start rotating your head it will have you look up to 
12 o'clock as if you were facing a clock.
Then gradually pretend you are looking toward 3 o'clock, 6, 9, and back to 12.
You usually have to go through it a couple times.
That is what I remember from many months ago.
That should get you started.
I'll be doing this on Friday chwhen my new phone arrives.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com


On Sep 21, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:


I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in to this, 
How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted help?  What should I 
expect?  Thanks much for any input.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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RE: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

2021-09-21 Thread Kevin Minor

Hi Richard.

I followed your instructions. The good news is I'm hearing the sound that I got 
an email. The bad news is the message is being read. It happens even when the 
phone is locked. How do I stop that, while still having other notifications 
read?

Thanks in advance.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

In iOS 15, there is another layer to successfully get sound notifications.

Open Settings, Mail.
Double tap on Notifications.
Now, swipe right with one finger until you get to Customize Notifications.
Double tap on that.
Now, you have separate settings for each mail account.
Make sure you have what you want set for the sound here.

You can also get to that screen through the main Settings, Notifications.

HTH,



Richard
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Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

I am not getting sound notification when I get a new email but texting and 
everything else seems to work fine Jen

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Same here, Gera. I even sent one to myself from the computer, another 
> address that I don't have on my phone, so sent to the phone. I checked later. 
> The email is there, but I got no notification signal that an email came. 
> 
> Now, I wonder if that will happen with text messages too? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 1:33 PM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 this morning, with the native Email app, no longer 
> notifies me when Emails are fetched, or when I receive Emails; in previous 
> versions of iOS it did this with no problem! I went into the notifications 
> from Settings and things look alright from there. Afterwards I went into Mail 
> from Settings, Fetch and everything seems to be there alright too! What I 
> missing? It feels so weird without te Email alerts from time to time! Thanks 
> for any tips, or is this an iOS15 bug?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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Face recognition

2021-09-21 Thread Kay Malmquist

I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in to 
this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted help?  What 
should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.

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RE: Problems between Siri and tune in on my phone and HomePods

I just tested it with a couple stations one was the BBC and one was OPB, and 
both worked fine using Siri on my iPhone after I gave permission for it to 
access my TuneIN data.
I had not used Siri for that before.  Very slick, when it works.




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Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:47 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Problems between Siri and tune in on my phone and HomePods

Yesterday, I was having good success using my HomePods with Siri to play all 
manner of radio stations, including some that it never properly understood 
before the homePod upgrade. Today, I can't get anything from tune in on my 
HomePods. I tried it on the phone as well, asking Siri to play a couple of 
different United States radio stations, which it said it would do, but then 
nothing. It would appear that the connection between the Siri and tune in is 
down. Is anyone else experiencing this?


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RE: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

In iOS 15, there is another layer to successfully get sound notifications.

Open Settings, Mail.
Double tap on Notifications.
Now, swipe right with one finger until you get to Customize Notifications.
Double tap on that.
Now, you have separate settings for each mail account.
Make sure you have what you want set for the sound here.

You can also get to that screen through the main Settings, Notifications.

HTH,



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I am not getting sound notification when I get a new email but texting and 
everything else seems to work fine Jen

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Same here, Gera. I even sent one to myself from the computer, another 
> address that I don't have on my phone, so sent to the phone. I checked later. 
> The email is there, but I got no notification signal that an email came. 
> 
> Now, I wonder if that will happen with text messages too? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 1:33 PM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 this morning, with the native Email app, no longer 
> notifies me when Emails are fetched, or when I receive Emails; in previous 
> versions of iOS it did this with no problem! I went into the notifications 
> from Settings and things look alright from there. Afterwards I went into Mail 
> from Settings, Fetch and everything seems to be there alright too! What I 
> missing? It feels so weird without te Email alerts from time to time! Thanks 
> for any tips, or is this an iOS15 bug?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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RE: An iPhone question for a friend

2021-09-21 Thread bentleyj1952

Thanks for your post.  I’ll let my friend know.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An iPhone question for a friend

 

According to the BARD Mobile user guide found under Help, the latest version of 
BARD Mobile requires iOS version 11 or later to work.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> >
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:22:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: An iPhone question for a friend 

 

You can download them on any device where you have installed the app and signed 
in. 

Perhaps, the new app is not compatible with the older operating system?

She probably could find out through her local NLS library.

HTH,

 

 

Richard

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On Sep 20, 2021, at 3:14 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

I have a friend with an iPhone SE 2020 and an iPhone 5C.  The 5C doesn’t have a 
simm card in it but it still works on their wifi.

 

Her question is, can she download Bard books on both phones?  So far, something 
is going wrong when she tries to download books to the 5C but no problem when 
she tries with the SE 2020.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

James B  

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Re: IOS15 Initial impressions

2021-09-21 Thread Wayne Merritt

I have an iPhone 11 and have noticed a couple of times when going
through the App Switcher where it will say Active instead of the app's
name that is active. Not a huge deal but I will pay closer attention
to see if it happens all the time or just sometimes.

Wayne Merritt

On 9/21/21, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> Well it might be I am using a iPhone 8 after all. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 21, 2021 3:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions
>
> Then I wonder if it is device specific, I can swipe left and right to my
> heart's content through all the cards in my wallet app and I have about 6 or
> 7 in there.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich
> Verrier
> Sent: September 21, 2021 11:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions
>
> When I oapin the wallit app and try swipeing right it closes the app and
> crashiss it. I can't swipe left or anything with out it crashing. I know it
> is a bug and hear's hopeing that it will be fixt in a later update. From
> Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 21, 2021 2:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions
>
> I read this on Applevis, but I just went to the Wallet app and had no
> issues, I was able to swipe left through my cards and back right, I noticed
> I had some expired Air Canada boarding passes in there so I opened them and
> after tapping "More" I could tap on "Remove Pass" as always.
> I also have used the share sheet without issues I have an iPhone 11 and I
> can't remember if they said it was the share sheet where some people had
> issues on certain devices?
> Lastly, I opened the clock app and went to the Alarm tab, I tapped on "Add"
> and I had the pickers for hours, minutes and AM/PM just as always, I was
> able to set the time and save the alarm. The thing is that I rarely need an
> alarm because I wake up on myown, but if I do I hardly ever go into the
> Clock app to set it anyways because SIRI is so good at it and you can even
> ask SIRI what alarms you have and it will list them, you can tell SIRI if
> you want to delete a particular alarm or change it, much faster and easier.
> As I said, so far I have no issues I am worried about, there is that with
> the app switcher where I may have to swipe left and back to the right
> because Voiceover may not tell me the name of an app, but swiping left once
> and back to the right really is just a small inconvenience.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: September 21, 2021 11:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions
>
> Hello
>
> Then play around in the clock app, see your cards in the wallet app or try
> to share something with the share sheet.
>
> I am gladd toot hat what I see now, the ios is less buggy than let's say
> ios11 and the initial ios13 but there are still some nasty glidges but as I
> told if fone decides these well known glidges are not that important, then
> go go go an dupdate.
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Star Gazer
> Verzonden: dinsdag 21 september 2021 17:21
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions
>
> I haven't updated yet. When I do, how do I get to the focused notifications?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions
>
> Personally I don't find there is much of a difference on my iPhone 11 in
> terms of speed and responsiveness. I also haven't come across any serious
> issues.
> I have only used SIRI a little since yesterday asking to call somebody and
> dictating a few short messages, but so far it may just be a little better
> which one would hope now that all SIRI requests are handled on device and
> not in the cloud any more. I really hope SIRI saying "Working on that" or
> "Still working on that" will not be an issue any more because lately that
> happened too often for my liking. If I ask SIRI to call one of my contacts I
> want this to happen now and not 10 seconds later.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: September 21, 2021 4:53 AM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: IOS15 Initial impressions
>
> All I can say is wow! I decided to take the plunge this morning and update
> my device (an Se2020) thanks to a friend telling me via Twitter last night
> that on his SE2020, iOS15 runs great! And it does! The speed of the phone is
> as fast as if I hadn’t updated I say this because generally when you update,
> the IPHone tends to slow down a

Problems between Siri and tune in on my phone and HomePods

2021-09-21 Thread Mary Otten

Yesterday, I was having good success using my HomePods with Siri to play all 
manner of radio stations, including some that it never properly understood 
before the homePod upgrade. Today, I can’t get anything from tune in on my 
HomePods. I tried it on the phone as well, asking Siri to play a couple of 
different United States radio stations, which it said it would do, but then 
nothing. It would appear that the connection between the Siri and tune in is 
down. Is anyone else experiencing this?


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RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Well it might be I am using a iPhone 8 after all. From Mich.

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Weitzel
Sent: September 21, 2021 3:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Then I wonder if it is device specific, I can swipe left and right to my 
heart's content through all the cards in my wallet app and I have about 6 or 7 
in there.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 21, 2021 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

When I oapin the wallit app and try swipeing right it closes the app and 
crashiss it. I can't swipe left or anything with out it crashing. I know it is 
a bug and hear's hopeing that it will be fixt in a later update. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 21, 2021 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

I read this on Applevis, but I just went to the Wallet app and had no issues, I 
was able to swipe left through my cards and back right, I noticed I had some 
expired Air Canada boarding passes in there so I opened them and after tapping 
"More" I could tap on "Remove Pass" as always.
I also have used the share sheet without issues I have an iPhone 11 and I can't 
remember if they said it was the share sheet where some people had issues on 
certain devices?
Lastly, I opened the clock app and went to the Alarm tab, I tapped on "Add" and 
I had the pickers for hours, minutes and AM/PM just as always, I was able to 
set the time and save the alarm. The thing is that I rarely need an alarm 
because I wake up on myown, but if I do I hardly ever go into the Clock app to 
set it anyways because SIRI is so good at it and you can even ask SIRI what 
alarms you have and it will list them, you can tell SIRI if you want to delete 
a particular alarm or change it, much faster and easier.
As I said, so far I have no issues I am worried about, there is that with the 
app switcher where I may have to swipe left and back to the right because 
Voiceover may not tell me the name of an app, but swiping left once and back to 
the right really is just a small inconvenience.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: September 21, 2021 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Hello 

Then play around in the clock app, see your cards in the wallet app or try to 
share something with the share sheet. 

I am gladd toot hat what I see now, the ios is less buggy than let's say ios11 
and the initial ios13 but there are still some nasty glidges but as I told if 
fone decides these well known glidges are not that important, then go go go an 
dupdate.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Star Gazer
Verzonden: dinsdag 21 september 2021 17:21
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

I haven't updated yet. When I do, how do I get to the focused notifications?  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Personally I don't find there is much of a difference on my iPhone 11 in terms 
of speed and responsiveness. I also haven't come across any serious issues.
I have only used SIRI a little since yesterday asking to call somebody and 
dictating a few short messages, but so far it may just be a little better which 
one would hope now that all SIRI requests are handled on device and not in the 
cloud any more. I really hope SIRI saying "Working on that" or "Still working 
on that" will not be an issue any more because lately that happened too often 
for my liking. If I ask SIRI to call one of my contacts I want this to happen 
now and not 10 seconds later.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: September 21, 2021 4:53 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: IOS15 Initial impressions

All I can say is wow! I decided to take the plunge this morning and update my 
device (an Se2020) thanks to a friend telling me via Twitter last night that on 
his SE2020, iOS15 runs great! And it does! The speed of the phone is as fast as 
if I hadn’t updated I say this because generally when you update, the IPHone 
tends to slow down a bit?
The download took itself took about 40/45 minutes; the installation and restart 
about 8 minutes.and when the phone restarted, and after setting up stuff Apple 
asks for (the code etc), away I plunged! So far I haven’t gone into the Focus 
feature (which I’m really looking forward to setting it up and giving it a try).
So far, it was more the nerves than anything! I’ll continue reporting.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Then I wonder if it is device specific, I can swipe left and right to my 
heart's content through all the cards in my wallet app and I have about 6 or 7 
in there.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 21, 2021 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

When I oapin the wallit app and try swipeing right it closes the app and 
crashiss it. I can't swipe left or anything with out it crashing. I know it is 
a bug and hear's hopeing that it will be fixt in a later update. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 21, 2021 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

I read this on Applevis, but I just went to the Wallet app and had no issues, I 
was able to swipe left through my cards and back right, I noticed I had some 
expired Air Canada boarding passes in there so I opened them and after tapping 
"More" I could tap on "Remove Pass" as always.
I also have used the share sheet without issues I have an iPhone 11 and I can't 
remember if they said it was the share sheet where some people had issues on 
certain devices?
Lastly, I opened the clock app and went to the Alarm tab, I tapped on "Add" and 
I had the pickers for hours, minutes and AM/PM just as always, I was able to 
set the time and save the alarm. The thing is that I rarely need an alarm 
because I wake up on myown, but if I do I hardly ever go into the Clock app to 
set it anyways because SIRI is so good at it and you can even ask SIRI what 
alarms you have and it will list them, you can tell SIRI if you want to delete 
a particular alarm or change it, much faster and easier.
As I said, so far I have no issues I am worried about, there is that with the 
app switcher where I may have to swipe left and back to the right because 
Voiceover may not tell me the name of an app, but swiping left once and back to 
the right really is just a small inconvenience.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: September 21, 2021 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Hello 

Then play around in the clock app, see your cards in the wallet app or try to 
share something with the share sheet. 

I am gladd toot hat what I see now, the ios is less buggy than let's say ios11 
and the initial ios13 but there are still some nasty glidges but as I told if 
fone decides these well known glidges are not that important, then go go go an 
dupdate.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Star Gazer
Verzonden: dinsdag 21 september 2021 17:21
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

I haven't updated yet. When I do, how do I get to the focused notifications?  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Personally I don't find there is much of a difference on my iPhone 11 in terms 
of speed and responsiveness. I also haven't come across any serious issues.
I have only used SIRI a little since yesterday asking to call somebody and 
dictating a few short messages, but so far it may just be a little better which 
one would hope now that all SIRI requests are handled on device and not in the 
cloud any more. I really hope SIRI saying "Working on that" or "Still working 
on that" will not be an issue any more because lately that happened too often 
for my liking. If I ask SIRI to call one of my contacts I want this to happen 
now and not 10 seconds later.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: September 21, 2021 4:53 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: IOS15 Initial impressions

All I can say is wow! I decided to take the plunge this morning and update my 
device (an Se2020) thanks to a friend telling me via Twitter last night that on 
his SE2020, iOS15 runs great! And it does! The speed of the phone is as fast as 
if I hadn’t updated I say this because generally when you update, the IPHone 
tends to slow down a bit?
The download took itself took about 40/45 minutes; the installation and restart 
about 8 minutes.and when the phone restarted, and after setting up stuff Apple 
asks for (the code etc), away I plunged! So far I haven’t gone into the Focus 
feature (which I’m really looking forward to setting it up and giving it a try).
So far, it was more the nerves than anything! I’ll continue reporting.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

2021-09-21 Thread Jen .

I am not getting sound notification when I get a new email but texting and 
everything else seems to work fine
Jen

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Same here, Gera. I even sent one to myself from the computer, another 
> address that I don't have on my phone, so sent to the phone. I checked later. 
> The email is there, but I got no notification signal that an email came. 
> 
> Now, I wonder if that will happen with text messages too? 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 1:33 PM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 this morning, with the native Email app, no longer 
> notifies me when Emails are fetched, or when I receive Emails; in previous 
> versions of iOS it did this with no problem! I went into the notifications 
> from Settings and things look alright from there. Afterwards I went into Mail 
> from Settings, Fetch and everything seems to be there alright too! What I 
> missing? It feels so weird without te Email alerts from time to time! Thanks 
> for any tips, or is this an iOS15 bug?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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Re: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

2021-09-21 Thread Robert stigile

Hello,
I am not having any issues being notified that new mail has come through.
Thanks,

Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
National Federation of the Blind of California
President San Fernando Valley Chapter
818-381-9568


> On Sep 21, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Same here, Gera. I even sent one to myself from the computer, another 
> address that I don't have on my phone, so sent to the phone. I checked later. 
> The email is there, but I got no notification signal that an email came. 
> 
> Now, I wonder if that will happen with text messages too? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 1:33 PM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 this morning, with the native Email app, no longer 
> notifies me when Emails are fetched, or when I receive Emails; in previous 
> versions of iOS it did this with no problem! I went into the notifications 
> from Settings and things look alright from there. Afterwards I went into Mail 
> from Settings, Fetch and everything seems to be there alright too! What I 
> missing? It feels so weird without te Email alerts from time to time! Thanks 
> for any tips, or is this an iOS15 bug?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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RE: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

Same here, Gera. I even sent one to myself from the computer, another address 
that I don't have on my phone, so sent to the phone. I checked later. The email 
is there, but I got no notification signal that an email came. 

Now, I wonder if that will happen with text messages too? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 1:33 PM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

Since updating to iOS15 this morning, with the native Email app, no longer 
notifies me when Emails are fetched, or when I receive Emails; in previous 
versions of iOS it did this with no problem! I went into the notifications from 
Settings and things look alright from there. Afterwards I went into Mail from 
Settings, Fetch and everything seems to be there alright too! What I missing? 
It feels so weird without te Email alerts from time to time! Thanks for any 
tips, or is this an iOS15 bug?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

When I oapin the wallit app and try swipeing right it closes the app and 
crashiss it. I can't swipe left or anything with out it crashing. I know it is 
a bug and hear's hopeing that it will be fixt in a later update. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 21, 2021 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

I read this on Applevis, but I just went to the Wallet app and had no issues, I 
was able to swipe left through my cards and back right, I noticed I had some 
expired Air Canada boarding passes in there so I opened them and after tapping 
"More" I could tap on "Remove Pass" as always.
I also have used the share sheet without issues I have an iPhone 11 and I can't 
remember if they said it was the share sheet where some people had issues on 
certain devices?
Lastly, I opened the clock app and went to the Alarm tab, I tapped on "Add" and 
I had the pickers for hours, minutes and AM/PM just as always, I was able to 
set the time and save the alarm. The thing is that I rarely need an alarm 
because I wake up on myown, but if I do I hardly ever go into the Clock app to 
set it anyways because SIRI is so good at it and you can even ask SIRI what 
alarms you have and it will list them, you can tell SIRI if you want to delete 
a particular alarm or change it, much faster and easier.
As I said, so far I have no issues I am worried about, there is that with the 
app switcher where I may have to swipe left and back to the right because 
Voiceover may not tell me the name of an app, but swiping left once and back to 
the right really is just a small inconvenience.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: September 21, 2021 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Hello 

Then play around in the clock app, see your cards in the wallet app or try to 
share something with the share sheet. 

I am gladd toot hat what I see now, the ios is less buggy than let's say ios11 
and the initial ios13 but there are still some nasty glidges but as I told if 
fone decides these well known glidges are not that important, then go go go an 
dupdate.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Star Gazer
Verzonden: dinsdag 21 september 2021 17:21
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

I haven't updated yet. When I do, how do I get to the focused notifications?  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Personally I don't find there is much of a difference on my iPhone 11 in terms 
of speed and responsiveness. I also haven't come across any serious issues.
I have only used SIRI a little since yesterday asking to call somebody and 
dictating a few short messages, but so far it may just be a little better which 
one would hope now that all SIRI requests are handled on device and not in the 
cloud any more. I really hope SIRI saying "Working on that" or "Still working 
on that" will not be an issue any more because lately that happened too often 
for my liking. If I ask SIRI to call one of my contacts I want this to happen 
now and not 10 seconds later.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: September 21, 2021 4:53 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: IOS15 Initial impressions

All I can say is wow! I decided to take the plunge this morning and update my 
device (an Se2020) thanks to a friend telling me via Twitter last night that on 
his SE2020, iOS15 runs great! And it does! The speed of the phone is as fast as 
if I hadn’t updated I say this because generally when you update, the IPHone 
tends to slow down a bit?
The download took itself took about 40/45 minutes; the installation and restart 
about 8 minutes.and when the phone restarted, and after setting up stuff Apple 
asks for (the code etc), away I plunged! So far I haven’t gone into the Focus 
feature (which I’m really looking forward to setting it up and giving it a try).
So far, it was more the nerves than anything! I’ll continue reporting.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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RE: I just updated to ios 15 on my iPhone 8 and iPad minni and only found one bug so far the one with the wallott.

Hi yes I ment ios 15. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 21, 2021 2:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I just updated to ios 15 on my iPhone 8 and iPad minni and only 
found one bug so far the one with the wallott.

You say you updated to iOS 14, do you mean iOS 15 or did you only just now 
update to 14 when iOS 15 was just released?

I assume by "woolett" you mean the Wallet? 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich 
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Sent: September 21, 2021 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I just updated to ios 15 on my iPhone 8 and iPad minni and only found 
one bug so far the one with the wallott.

Hi all I updated my iPhone 8 and iPad to ios 14 and only found one bug so far 
the one about the wollett and it does crash when you go into it but apart from 
that the shair feture seems to be working etc. from Mich.

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RE: I just updated to ios 15 on my iPhone 8 and iPad minni and only found one bug so far the one with the wallott.

You say you updated to iOS 14, do you mean iOS 15 or did you only just now 
update to 14 when iOS 15 was just released?
I assume by "woolett" you mean the Wallet?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
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Sent: September 21, 2021 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I just updated to ios 15 on my iPhone 8 and iPad minni and only found 
one bug so far the one with the wallott.

Hi all I updated my iPhone 8 and iPad to ios 14 and only found one bug so far 
the one about the wollett and it does crash when you go into it but apart from 
that the shair feture seems to be working etc. from Mich.
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RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

I read this on Applevis, but I just went to the Wallet app and had no issues, I 
was able to swipe left through my cards and back right, I noticed I had some 
expired Air Canada boarding passes in there so I opened them and after tapping 
"More" I could tap on "Remove Pass" as always.
I also have used the share sheet without issues I have an iPhone 11 and I can't 
remember if they said it was the share sheet where some people had issues on 
certain devices?
Lastly, I opened the clock app and went to the Alarm tab, I tapped on "Add" and 
I had the pickers for hours, minutes and AM/PM just as always, I was able to 
set the time and save the alarm. The thing is that I rarely need an alarm 
because I wake up on myown, but if I do I hardly ever go into the Clock app to 
set it anyways because SIRI is so good at it and you can even ask SIRI what 
alarms you have and it will list them, you can tell SIRI if you want to delete 
a particular alarm or change it, much faster and easier.
As I said, so far I have no issues I am worried about, there is that with the 
app switcher where I may have to swipe left and back to the right because 
Voiceover may not tell me the name of an app, but swiping left once and back to 
the right really is just a small inconvenience.

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Sent: September 21, 2021 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Hello 

Then play around in the clock app, see your cards in the wallet app or try to 
share something with the share sheet. 

I am gladd toot hat what I see now, the ios is less buggy than let's say ios11 
and the initial ios13 but there are still some nasty glidges but as I told if 
fone decides these well known glidges are not that important, then go go go an 
dupdate.

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Verzonden: dinsdag 21 september 2021 17:21
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Onderwerp: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

I haven't updated yet. When I do, how do I get to the focused notifications?  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Personally I don't find there is much of a difference on my iPhone 11 in terms 
of speed and responsiveness. I also haven't come across any serious issues.
I have only used SIRI a little since yesterday asking to call somebody and 
dictating a few short messages, but so far it may just be a little better which 
one would hope now that all SIRI requests are handled on device and not in the 
cloud any more. I really hope SIRI saying "Working on that" or "Still working 
on that" will not be an issue any more because lately that happened too often 
for my liking. If I ask SIRI to call one of my contacts I want this to happen 
now and not 10 seconds later.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: September 21, 2021 4:53 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: IOS15 Initial impressions

All I can say is wow! I decided to take the plunge this morning and update my 
device (an Se2020) thanks to a friend telling me via Twitter last night that on 
his SE2020, iOS15 runs great! And it does! The speed of the phone is as fast as 
if I hadn’t updated I say this because generally when you update, the IPHone 
tends to slow down a bit?
The download took itself took about 40/45 minutes; the installation and restart 
about 8 minutes.and when the phone restarted, and after setting up stuff Apple 
asks for (the code etc), away I plunged! So far I haven’t gone into the Focus 
feature (which I’m really looking forward to setting it up and giving it a try).
So far, it was more the nerves than anything! I’ll continue reporting.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: Iphone 13 Pro 120hz Display

2021-09-21 Thread Rajiv Shah

The other point that I think many non-sighted users may be missing is that the 
faster refresh rate of 120 HZ will help with swiping. From Android devices with 
this rate, trust me it makes a difference with screen responsiveness when you 
swipe.

Best,

Rajiv   

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Sent: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 13:57:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Iphone 13 Pro 120hz Display


It’s been suggested, and remains to be seen, that the new display’s ability to 
ramp down it’s refresh rate could potentially be of great benefit in terms of 
battery life for those who make use of screen curtain much of the time.


> On Sep 21, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, after I receive my phone on Friday and get it set up, I can give a 
> comparison between the 13 pro and the SE 2020.
> I have my doubts it will make much difference but no one knows until the 
> phone is in your hands.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tejvir 
> C
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Iphone 13 Pro 120hz Display
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am looking to purchase a new IPhone for myself.
> 
> I am curious whether the 120hz refresh rate on the IPhone 13 Pro will be 
> advantageous for a VI in any way and whether it is worth shelling out the 
> extra amount.
> 
> If not I'll like to go for the 12 series since it seems that there is hardly 
> any difference between the last year and this year's models.
> 
> Your suggestions will be appreciated.
> 
> With Regards,
> Tejvir.
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Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

2021-09-21 Thread Kevin Minor

Hi.

I read in another message that someone no longer got the time automatically 
spoken with a talking clock in iOS 15. I'm also having this happen with 
Speaking Clock. Not sure what's up.

Just letting people know.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

2021-09-21 Thread davycuppens

Hello 

Then play around in the clock app, see your cards in the wallet app or try to 
share something with the share sheet. 

I am gladd toot hat what I see now, the ios is less buggy than let's say ios11 
and the initial ios13 but there are still some nasty glidges but as I told if 
fone decides these well known glidges are not that important, then go go go an 
dupdate.

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Verzonden: dinsdag 21 september 2021 17:21
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Onderwerp: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

I haven't updated yet. When I do, how do I get to the focused notifications?  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Personally I don't find there is much of a difference on my iPhone 11 in terms 
of speed and responsiveness. I also haven't come across any serious issues.
I have only used SIRI a little since yesterday asking to call somebody and 
dictating a few short messages, but so far it may just be a little better which 
one would hope now that all SIRI requests are handled on device and not in the 
cloud any more. I really hope SIRI saying "Working on that" or "Still working 
on that" will not be an issue any more because lately that happened too often 
for my liking. If I ask SIRI to call one of my contacts I want this to happen 
now and not 10 seconds later.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: September 21, 2021 4:53 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: IOS15 Initial impressions

All I can say is wow! I decided to take the plunge this morning and update my 
device (an Se2020) thanks to a friend telling me via Twitter last night that on 
his SE2020, iOS15 runs great! And it does! The speed of the phone is as fast as 
if I hadn’t updated I say this because generally when you update, the IPHone 
tends to slow down a bit?
The download took itself took about 40/45 minutes; the installation and restart 
about 8 minutes.and when the phone restarted, and after setting up stuff Apple 
asks for (the code etc), away I plunged! So far I haven’t gone into the Focus 
feature (which I’m really looking forward to setting it up and giving it a try).
So far, it was more the nerves than anything! I’ll continue reporting.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: Iphone 13 Pro 120hz Display

2021-09-21 Thread Matthew Janusauskas



It’s been suggested, and remains to be seen, that the new display’s ability to 
ramp down it’s refresh rate could potentially be of great benefit in terms of 
battery life for those who make use of screen curtain much of the time.


> On Sep 21, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, after I receive my phone on Friday and get it set up, I can give a 
> comparison between the 13 pro and the SE 2020.
> I have my doubts it will make much difference but no one knows until the 
> phone is in your hands.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tejvir 
> C
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Iphone 13 Pro 120hz Display
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am looking to purchase a new IPhone for myself.
> 
> I am curious whether the 120hz refresh rate on the IPhone 13 Pro will be 
> advantageous for a VI in any way and whether it is worth shelling out the 
> extra amount.
> 
> If not I'll like to go for the 12 series since it seems that there is hardly 
> any difference between the last year and this year's models.
> 
> Your suggestions will be appreciated.
> 
> With Regards,
> Tejvir.
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Re: The Evolution of the iPhone: Every Model from 2007–2021

Wow Richard! thanks for sharing! Definitely brought me bak memory Lane! Can you 
guys believe that my very first IPHone, a 3GS, was 8GB of space?

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> El 21 sep 2021, a la(s) 11:37 a.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> 
> I ran across this article and thought it was worth sharing, the link to the 
> source is at the end.
>  
> The Evolution of the iPhone: Every Model from 2007–2021
> By Conner Carey Updated 09/20/2021
> What was the first iPhone to come out? When did the first iPhone come out? We 
> have the full history of the iPhone right here through the iPhone 13. This 
> article will cover the evolution of iPhone models throughout the years, and 
> discuss the notable changes made with each release.
>  
> iPhone: June 29, 2007
>  
> Can you believe 16 GB is all you could put on the original iPhone? Granted, 
> there wasn't nearly as much data to put on the iPhone yet and certainly no 
> App Store. But you had access to the internet on a screen you could actually 
> see it on, unlike the flip and slider phones of the time. And it could only 
> handle 128 MB of memory. The camera was 2.0 megapixels—so, terrible. But a 
> phone with a camera! Holy moly!
>  
> iPhone 3G: July 11, 2008
>  
> As far as internal specs go, the iPhone 3G wasn't much different than the 
> original iPhone. But now there was an App Store! This iPhone got its moniker 
> for its 3G connectivity, which meant access to internet you could actually 
> use without wanting to throw the iPhone across the room.
>  
> iPhone 3GS: June 19, 2009
>  
> Apple introduced the 32 GB storage option with the iPhone 3GS, doubling it 
> from the first iPhone. Clearly, introducing the App Store changed things 
> quickly. Between photos, music, and apps, 16 GB just wasn't going to cut it. 
> The camera got an upgrade to 3 MP and added video recording. Apple also added 
> Voice Control, although we’d have to wait a couple more years before the 
> introduction of Siri.
>  
> iPhone 4: June 24, 2010
>  
> Now we’re getting somewhere. The iPhone 4 was the first iPhone to have a 
> front-facing camera. Little did Apple know, selfies would take over the 
> world. The iPhone 4 also got a Retina display. With 512 MB memory, it was 
> equipped to handle a lot more than even the iPhone 3GS, which only had 256 MB 
> of memory. You can see the technology was beginning to look a little more 
> familiar, but 32 GB was still the maximum amount of storage the iPhone could 
> hold.
>  
> iPhone 4S: October 14, 2011
>  
> Talk about a huge difference between the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S: the 
> camera went from 5 MP to a whopping 8 MP. Now, that’s an upgrade. Apple also 
> introduced the 64 GB storage option but kept the memory at 512 MB. Video 
> could then be recorded in 1080p. Oh, I can’t forget—hello, Siri! Apple sold 
> four million units of the iPhone 4S in its first week.
>  
> iPhone 5: September 21, 2012
>  
> Apple sold 5 million units of the iPhone 5 in its first week. The camera 
> stayed the same but memory was boosted all the way up to 1 GB. You thought 3G 
> was cool? Psh, the iPhone 5 had LTE connectivity. Hello, internet everywhere! 
> Apple also introduced the Lightning connector with the iPhone 5. And for the 
> first time, the screen got bigger! All previous generations' displays were 
> 3.5 inches, but the iPhone 5 was 4 inches.
>  
> iPhone 5s & iPhone 5c: September 20, 2013
>  
> Between the iPhone 5s and the iPhone 5c, Apple sold nine million units in the 
> first week of sales. The iPhone 5c was meant to be slightly more affordable 
> and had a plastic shell. It was available in four different colors, but not 
> too much else was different. The iPhone 5s, on the other hand, introduced 
> Touch ID, dual flash, and slow-motion video. Plus, it included the M7 motion 
> coprocessor, which opened a new realm of possibilities and also helped save 
> battery life.
>  
> iPhone 6 & 6 Plus: September 19, 2014
>  
> Apple tends to make larger leaps between the original model and the S edition 
> than it does from the S edition to a new model. The iPhone 6's internal specs 
> were very similar to those of the iPhone 5s. The biggest difference was 
> having a significantly larger screen and offering an even larger size called 
> 6 Plus. The Retina display became HD, and the option to get an iPhone with 
> 128 GB of storage became available. But the amount of memory was the same, 
> and the camera didn't see a megapixel upgrade. But it didn't matter—Apple 
> sold 10 million units in the first week.
>  
> iPhone 6s & 6s Plus: September 19, 2015
>  
> The 6s changed everything. Well, not everything, it basically looked the 
> same. But inside, Apple upgraded the iPhone 6s quite a lot. The camera made a 
> huge leap forward going from 8 MP to 12 MP. The memory was also doubled from 
> 1 GB to 2 GB. After the iPhone 6 had some bending issues (#bendgate), Apple 
> gave the iPhone 6s 7000 series

Re: IOS15 Initial impressions

Oh for me the focus feature is a dream come true! I’ll definitely make much 
better use he IPHone as an all-in-1! The personal one I set it up t alow only 
Whatsapp Messenger and Talkin Clock 2 and for it to activate when I open games, 
apps like Youtube, Spotify, Netflix, Prime Video, and when my MOm sent me 
several Whatsapps it worked like a charm! All the rest of the notifications are 
off.

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> El 21 sep 2021, a la(s) 10:15 a.m., Sieghard Weitzel  
> escribió:
> 
> And the Focus option is quite good, I turned off my daily 10 PM to 6:30 AM 
> schedule for Do Not Disturb now and instead set up the Sleep focus for that, 
> how much I will make use of setting up and activating other focus patterns I 
> don't know yet, time will tell whether I find it useful, but this of course 
> may be different for others..
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: September 21, 2021 4:53 AM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: IOS15 Initial impressions
> 
> All I can say is wow! I decided to take the plunge this morning and update my 
> device (an Se2020) thanks to a friend telling me via Twitter last night that 
> on his SE2020, iOS15 runs great! And it does! The speed of the phone is as 
> fast as if I hadn’t updated I say this because generally when you update, the 
> IPHone tends to slow down a bit?
> The download took itself took about 40/45 minutes; the installation and 
> restart about 8 minutes.and when the phone restarted, and after setting up 
> stuff Apple asks for (the code etc), away I plunged! So far I haven’t gone 
> into the Focus feature (which I’m really looking forward to setting it up and 
> giving it a try).
> So far, it was more the nerves than anything! I’ll continue reporting.
> 
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IOS15 Clock2 no longer alerts

Anyone of you’ll happen to have the app “Talkin Block2 from 
https://apps.apple.com/mx/app/talking-clock2-talktime/id545312858
The problem I’m having is that even htough I turned off and on the alerts, it 
it no longer alerts on an hourly basis as before. I restarted the phone just in 
case, but no luck either.

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IOS15 mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

Since updating to iOS15 this morning, with the native Email app, no longer 
notifies me when Emails are fetched, or when I receive Emails; in previous 
versions of iOS it did this with no problem! I went into the notifications from 
Settings and things look alright from there. Afterwards I went into Mail from 
Settings, Fetch and everything seems to be there alright too! What I missing? 
It feels so weird without te Email alerts from time to time! Thanks for any 
tips, or is this an iOS15 bug?

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I just updated to ios 15 on my iPhone 8 and iPad minni and only found one bug so far the one with the wallott.

Hi all I updated my iPhone 8 and iPad to ios 14 and only found one bug so
far the one about the wollett and it does crash when you go into it but
apart from that the shair feture seems to be working etc. from Mich.

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Guess what happened to Do Not Disturb?

I update to 15. I could not find Do Not Disturb; Siri could
not find Do Not Disturb. 

 

I called Apple Accessibility. It is in Focus. Focus allows
more flexibility. 

 

He did tell me that some people were saying they were not
getting adequate service from Siri, and that is being
address,

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Displaying the time when in sleep focus mode?

2021-09-21 Thread Matthew Bullis

Hello, I have a work focus set up plus the sleep focus that I previously set up 
in health. While in the work focus, the time is displayed on the lock screen, 
but not while in the sleep focus. I even turned on the clock app, but in order 
to get the time, I have to dismiss the sleep screen. Is there something else I 
need to do in order to get the time on the lock screen in the sleep focus?
Thanks,
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How to authorize a shortcut for good?

Using iOS15, I’ve a shortcut that when launched, brings up the the Edit field 
to tweet within the native Twitter app. And every time I use it, it bugs me to 
give it permission! Where ould I go in the Shortcuts app o always tell it to 
give it permission like it always worked in previous versions of iOS?

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The Evolution of the iPhone: Every Model from 2007–2021

I ran across this article and thought it was worth sharing, the link to the 
source is at the end.

The Evolution of the iPhone: Every Model from 2007–2021
By Conner Carey Updated 09/20/2021
What was the first iPhone to come out? When did the first iPhone come out? We 
have the full history of the iPhone right here through the iPhone 13. This 
article will cover the evolution of iPhone models throughout the years, and 
discuss the notable changes made with each release.

iPhone: June 29, 2007

Can you believe 16 GB is all you could put on the original iPhone? Granted, 
there wasn't nearly as much data to put on the iPhone yet and certainly no App 
Store. But you had access to the internet on a screen you could actually see it 
on, unlike the flip and slider phones of the time. And it could only handle 128 
MB of memory. The camera was 2.0 megapixels—so, terrible. But a phone with a 
camera! Holy moly!

iPhone 3G: July 11, 2008

As far as internal specs go, the iPhone 3G wasn't much different than the 
original iPhone. But now there was an App Store! This iPhone got its moniker 
for its 3G connectivity, which meant access to internet you could actually use 
without wanting to throw the iPhone across the room.

iPhone 3GS: June 19, 2009

Apple introduced the 32 GB storage option with the iPhone 3GS, doubling it from 
the first iPhone. Clearly, introducing the App Store changed things quickly. 
Between photos, music, and apps, 16 GB just wasn't going to cut it. The camera 
got an upgrade to 3 MP and added video recording. Apple also added Voice 
Control, although we’d have to wait a couple more years before the introduction 
of Siri.

iPhone 4: June 24, 2010

Now we’re getting somewhere. The iPhone 4 was the first iPhone to have a 
front-facing camera. Little did Apple know, selfies would take over the world. 
The iPhone 4 also got a Retina display. With 512 MB memory, it was equipped to 
handle a lot more than even the iPhone 3GS, which only had 256 MB of memory. 
You can see the technology was beginning to look a little more familiar, but 32 
GB was still the maximum amount of storage the iPhone could hold.

iPhone 4S: October 14, 2011

Talk about a huge difference between the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S: the camera 
went from 5 MP to a whopping 8 MP. Now, that’s an upgrade. Apple also 
introduced the 64 GB storage option but kept the memory at 512 MB. Video could 
then be recorded in 1080p. Oh, I can’t forget—hello, Siri! Apple sold four 
million units of the iPhone 4S in its first week.

iPhone 5: September 21, 2012

Apple sold 5 million units of the iPhone 5 in its first week. The camera stayed 
the same but memory was boosted all the way up to 1 GB. You thought 3G was 
cool? Psh, the iPhone 5 had LTE connectivity. Hello, internet everywhere! Apple 
also introduced the Lightning connector with the iPhone 5. And for the first 
time, the screen got bigger! All previous generations' displays were 3.5 
inches, but the iPhone 5 was 4 inches.

iPhone 5s & iPhone 5c: September 20, 2013

Between the iPhone 5s and the iPhone 5c, Apple sold nine million units in the 
first week of sales. The iPhone 5c was meant to be slightly more affordable and 
had a plastic shell. It was available in four different colors, but not too 
much else was different. The iPhone 5s, on the other hand, introduced Touch ID, 
dual flash, and slow-motion video. Plus, it included the M7 motion coprocessor, 
which opened a new realm of possibilities and also helped save battery life.

iPhone 6 & 6 Plus: September 19, 2014

Apple tends to make larger leaps between the original model and the S edition 
than it does from the S edition to a new model. The iPhone 6's internal specs 
were very similar to those of the iPhone 5s. The biggest difference was having 
a significantly larger screen and offering an even larger size called 6 Plus. 
The Retina display became HD, and the option to get an iPhone with 128 GB of 
storage became available. But the amount of memory was the same, and the camera 
didn't see a megapixel upgrade. But it didn't matter—Apple sold 10 million 
units in the first week.

iPhone 6s & 6s Plus: September 19, 2015

The 6s changed everything. Well, not everything, it basically looked the same. 
But inside, Apple upgraded the iPhone 6s quite a lot. The camera made a huge 
leap forward going from 8 MP to 12 MP. The memory was also doubled from 1 GB to 
2 GB. After the iPhone 6 had some bending issues (#bendgate), Apple gave the 
iPhone 6s 7000 series aluminum to make sure that never happened again. Last but 
not least, 3D Touch was introduced.

iPhone SE: March 31, 2016

Don’t think I’ve forgotten the iPhone SE. It had all the awesome internal specs 
of the iPhone 6s in a small package and without 3D Touch. But overall, the 
iPhone SE was introduced as a more affordable option that people really loved.

iPhone 7 & 7 Plus: September 16, 2016

Apple finally dropped the 16 GB base model option, with iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 
Plus base

RE: App for counting steps

2021-09-21 Thread terrieter

My thanks to all of you for your responses! I am glad that my info was not 
accurate and that I can look into step counting using the iPhone with 
confidence.

You all rock.

Terrie Terlau

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App for counting steps

 

That could be difficult for those of us with large big toes,

 

I wonder how you could limit the jumping between the little toe?

 

Or could it be you have to tape or glue the phone to the sole of your shoe for 
it to count the number of steps your taking?

 

LOL.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, 21 September 2021 7:08 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App for counting steps

 

It should only count steps when typing if you put your phone on the floor and 
jump from letter to letter. Of course you'd have to do the ballet thing where 
you are on your tippy toes otherwise it won't work 藍

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 20, 2021 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App for counting steps

 

To test what the articles I’ve read are saying; check your step count, then 
walk a known path so you know how far you have walked.  Check the pedometer 
reading.

Later, see if you can take a ride in a vehicle on something very close to that 
same path and check the readings before and after.

My thought is, if it is truly measuring steps, it should not give you much 
after riding in a vehicle.

 

Besides, the keyboard business would only possibly be if one had an apple 
watch; but I doubt very much that would register typing unless you are a very 
dramatic typist, .

If the phone is in a pocket, I could see tapping one’s foot registering as 
steps.

That happens with some cheap standard pedometers you hang on a belt.

They also register riding in cars because the least vibration causes them to 
think you are walking…

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: App for counting steps

 

Hi.  I have used Pedometer ++ on the original iPhone SE and now on the 12 Pro 
and I haven't noticed foot tapping or keyboard use adding to step count.  I've 
experimented with this before and the only times steps register is when the 
phone is in a pocket or on the waste area, like it would be in a holster or in 
a fanny pack.  I can't speak about the native pedometer because I've never used 
it, but the Pedometer ++ app is accessible and has worked well for me.

 

Lisa

 

 

Lisa Belville 

missktlab1...@frontier.com  

On 9/20/2021 11:30 AM, terrie...@twc.com   wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have heard that the iPhone and other step-counting hardware adds steps if one 
taps one’s feet or uses a keyboard. If so, how can you hope to get a reasonably 
 accurate  step count or measurement of distance walked? I would appreciate 
advice on whether the iPhone adds steps wen the body makes movements other than 
walking. I would also appreciate recommendations for apps or other hardware 
that can give an accurate step count or distance walked measure. Thanks for any 
suggestions you can give.

Best,

Terrie Terlau

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: App for counting steps

 

Applevis is probably one of the best and most comprehensive web sites with tons 
of app reviews and tutorials.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: September 20, 2021 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: App for counting steps

 

Hi people,

I have this new phone and have been thinking I need to exercise more and saw 
that someone was keeping track of their steps and how many miles they had 
walked.  Of course, I have known you can do this, but could someone tell me how 
to set this up?  First I want to thank you all for answering all my questions.  
Next I want you to know that I look up a lot of things before I ask.  Last, I 
am warning you that I suspect I will have many more questions.  Is there a 
resource that is available to tell a blind person about the new things in 14?  
Yes, I realize that 15 has come

RE: How can I listen to audio messages in WhatsApp?

It is hard to explain given the vague explanation. Maybe you can at least 
provide what exactly you have, you just say "some settings", what exactly does 
Voiceover read? From time to time a screen comes up in WhatsApp where it asks 
you to enter your display name and, if you want, attach a profile picture. If 
that is the screen you simply swipe and find the Done button.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: September 21, 2021 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How can I listen to audio messages in WhatsApp?

The problem is that I don’t find the messages. What should I do to find the 
messages? When I open the app I only find some settings.
Would anyone please explain?

Rena

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ken Brown
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:45 AM
To: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: How can I listen to audio messages in WhatsApp?

You should be able to just double tap on the message and here it.

On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Rena 
mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello,

When someone sends me a message I don’t know how to listen to it. I open 
WhatsApp, but I only find some settings about how long I want to keep messages.
Any help, please?

Rena

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RE: Iphone 13 Pro 120hz Display

I don't think it is, but given the deals which are being offered I would 
strongly consider the regular iPhone 13 as it has a faster chip, better battery 
life, a better camera and it will be updated longer. Of course if you tend to 
get a new phone every 2-3 or even 4 years you could buy an iPhone 12 since it 
will definitely get software updates for another 4 and most likely 5 years.  

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Sent: September 21, 2021 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Iphone 13 Pro 120hz Display

Hello All,

I am looking to purchase a new IPhone for myself.

I am curious whether the 120hz refresh rate on the IPhone 13 Pro will be 
advantageous for a VI in any way and whether it is worth shelling out the extra 
amount.

If not I'll like to go for the 12 series since it seems that there is hardly 
any difference between the last year and this year's models.

Your suggestions will be appreciated.

With Regards,
Tejvir.

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Re: question about updating the iPhone if you are sighted? and if any of the bugs will effect sighted people?

2021-09-21 Thread Kelly Pierce

I would definitely have them turn off automatic updates until before
iOS 15 is installed in a few weeks. Folks do not understand that Apple
needs to release the new iOS before it sells the new phones, whether
or not the software is fully ready.  No, the company will not sit on
millions of iPhones in warehouses while software engineers write code
and squash bugs.

Kelly



On 9/20/21, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> Hi ok many thanks for all of that. My folks are each in there 60’s and they
> don’t really lissen to podcasts and stuff they do have there iPhones set to
> update audomitickley. Though. And they are not into bata programs or
> anything like that. from Mich.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 20, 2021 2:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: question about updating the iPhone if you are sighted? and if
> any of the bugs will effect sighted people?
>
>
>
> What Kelly said about the advice given by Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast
> for the last 10 years is a good strategy if you are somebody who wants to
> play it safe. If you are really into the latest and sometimes not greatest
> then chances are you would have had the iOS 15 Public Beta installed for the
> last 2 month otherwise what harm is there in waiting at least a few days or
> a week to see what people report. If you are your family's technical
> resource and advisor listen to Rob's Podcast and read what is published on
> Mac Rumors, 9to5Mac, Tech Radar, Engadget and other credible tech websites
> and you'll be well informed.
>
>
>
> By the way, in your subject line you wrote "i phone" all lower case and as
> two words, the correct way is "iPhone", which is a lower case "i" and then
> "Phone" with an upper case "P" and all in one word.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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> Sent: September 20, 2021 9:40 AM
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>
>
>
> Hi all I realise that this is a list for blind people or vi people but I am
> wondering about updateing the phone if you are sighted? What I am wondering
> about is not to update the phone or how to do it since I know that but if
> any of the bugs will ifect sighted people who don’t use voice over? The
> reason why I am asking is because I am my folks and other members of my
> family tech guy and help them with tech and I told them about the update to
> ios 15 but then I thought that most of the bugs would be infecting people
> who use voice over and that got me wondering about fully sighted people and
> so I thought I would ask the list. From Mich.
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RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15

I don't recall seeing this on the beta email list, but then again, that list 
was surprisingly quiet about iOS.
It seemed busier about Mac and VO.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15

trangely enough, I just forwarded the offending message to one of my other 
accounts.  Opening it from the other inbox as a forwarded message all works as 
expected.  So I cannot forward the message to anyone to see if they can 
replicate my findings.

I’m not on the beta list so I don’t know if any such issue was discussed there.

I will contact Apple out of interest and thanks to you both for your replies 
and efforts.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 21 Sep 2021, at 16:35, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> It does not work like that for me on my iPhone 11. If you think it's a bug I 
> would report it to accessibil...@apple.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: September 21, 2021 8:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> I have just received an e-mail and read it in the usual way.  As far as I can 
> tell there is nothing special or peculiar about this message.
> 
> Having read it, I exit the message as usual, so I’m back in my inbox.
> 
> Now, if I exit the mail app via Task Switcher and relaunch the mail app I am 
> back in the message I was previously reading.
> 
> As Richard suggested, I go to my home page then bring up Task Switcher, then 
> quit mail, at next launch I’m back in the message.
> 
> This behaviour persists even if I restart my iPhone.
> 
> Strangely if I leave it for a while around 7 hours normal behaviour is 
> restored.
> 
> I have experienced this no matter what folder a message resides in.  The 
> other day I went into my sent messages folder and even though I then switched 
> back to my inbox and read other messages I received, on launching the mail 
> app the sent message was opened for me.
> 
> Rather strange.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 21 Sep 2021, at 16:00, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I can confirm Richard's findings with my Exchange and two Outlook accounts. 
>> If I exit Mail with a message open I am returned to that message when I open 
>> Mail again even if I remove Mail from the app switcher.
>> If I exit the message and go back to the Inbox before exiting Mail then I an 
>> returned to the Inbox and the message list. It is not usually my practice to 
>> exit the Mail app with a message open so I probably would have never noticed 
>> this, the only time I may do this is if I go to another app but want to go 
>> back to Mail and refer back to a message for some piece of information.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: September 21, 2021 7:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
>> 
>> Hello Richard,
>> 
>> I have been making extensive use of the mail app today and until now I have 
>> not experienced the issue I described.
>> 
>> However, I have just received a message and no matter what I do I cannot get 
>> the mail app to not open that message when launching the mail app.
>> 
>> I have tried your suggestion, for which many thanks, but the app still opens 
>> this particular message when launched.
>> 
>> It only happens on certain messages although I cannot establish a pattern or 
>> reason why it occurred.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
 On 20 Sep 2021, at 21:36, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did some ore testing in iOS 15 mail app.
>>> 
>>> I think this new behavior is a feature, not a bug.
>>> 
>>> If you close mail while a message is open, you are returned to that 
>>> message.  
>>> If you close the message, then press the home button to get to the home 
>>> screen, then double tap the home button (or do the equivalent gesture), and 
>>> close mail, when I opened mail I was just in the inbox, not in an open 
>>> message.
>>> 
>>> If, however, I closed the email, and immediately double tapped home and 
>>> close mail out of the app switcher, when I open mail again, I'm back in 
>>> that last message I had read.
>>> 
>>> So, apparently, they are trying to help you keep track of where you were.  
>>> Not a feature I particularly like, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple 
>>> thinks of this as a feature, and not a bug.
>>> 
>>> Just be sure to 1. Close the message, 2. Pres home to return to the home 
>>> screen, then 3. Use the app switcher to close mail out of the app switcher.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who

Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15

2021-09-21 Thread Malcolm Parfitt

trangely enough, I just forwarded the offending message to one of my other 
accounts.  Opening it from the other inbox as a forwarded message all works as 
expected.  So I cannot forward the message to anyone to see if they can 
replicate my findings.

I’m not on the beta list so I don’t know if any such issue was discussed there.

I will contact Apple out of interest and thanks to you both for your replies 
and efforts.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 21 Sep 2021, at 16:35, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> It does not work like that for me on my iPhone 11. If you think it's a bug I 
> would report it to accessibil...@apple.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: September 21, 2021 8:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> I have just received an e-mail and read it in the usual way.  As far as I can 
> tell there is nothing special or peculiar about this message.
> 
> Having read it, I exit the message as usual, so I’m back in my inbox.
> 
> Now, if I exit the mail app via Task Switcher and relaunch the mail app I am 
> back in the message I was previously reading.
> 
> As Richard suggested, I go to my home page then bring up Task Switcher, then 
> quit mail, at next launch I’m back in the message.
> 
> This behaviour persists even if I restart my iPhone.
> 
> Strangely if I leave it for a while around 7 hours normal behaviour is 
> restored.
> 
> I have experienced this no matter what folder a message resides in.  The 
> other day I went into my sent messages folder and even though I then switched 
> back to my inbox and read other messages I received, on launching the mail 
> app the sent message was opened for me.
> 
> Rather strange.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 21 Sep 2021, at 16:00, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I can confirm Richard's findings with my Exchange and two Outlook accounts. 
>> If I exit Mail with a message open I am returned to that message when I open 
>> Mail again even if I remove Mail from the app switcher.
>> If I exit the message and go back to the Inbox before exiting Mail then I an 
>> returned to the Inbox and the message list. It is not usually my practice to 
>> exit the Mail app with a message open so I probably would have never noticed 
>> this, the only time I may do this is if I go to another app but want to go 
>> back to Mail and refer back to a message for some piece of information.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: September 21, 2021 7:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
>> 
>> Hello Richard,
>> 
>> I have been making extensive use of the mail app today and until now I have 
>> not experienced the issue I described.
>> 
>> However, I have just received a message and no matter what I do I cannot get 
>> the mail app to not open that message when launching the mail app.
>> 
>> I have tried your suggestion, for which many thanks, but the app still opens 
>> this particular message when launched.
>> 
>> It only happens on certain messages although I cannot establish a pattern or 
>> reason why it occurred.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
 On 20 Sep 2021, at 21:36, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did some ore testing in iOS 15 mail app.
>>> 
>>> I think this new behavior is a feature, not a bug.
>>> 
>>> If you close mail while a message is open, you are returned to that 
>>> message.  
>>> If you close the message, then press the home button to get to the home 
>>> screen, then double tap the home button (or do the equivalent gesture), and 
>>> close mail, when I opened mail I was just in the inbox, not in an open 
>>> message.
>>> 
>>> If, however, I closed the email, and immediately double tapped home and 
>>> close mail out of the app switcher, when I open mail again, I'm back in 
>>> that last message I had read.
>>> 
>>> So, apparently, they are trying to help you keep track of where you were.  
>>> Not a feature I particularly like, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple 
>>> thinks of this as a feature, and not a bug.
>>> 
>>> Just be sure to 1. Close the message, 2. Pres home to return to the home 
>>> screen, then 3. Use the app switcher to close mail out of the app switcher.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." - Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
>>> 
>>> I've seen the issue of being in a previously read message, in the beta and 
>>> I've not dealt with email enough to duplicate in the released version, but 
>>> you

Re: Can anyone tell me how I can convert a word file to PDF on my IPhone please?

2021-09-21 Thread Anna Dresner

Hello Eleanor,

Open the document in Pages. Double-tap More, then Export, then PDF. There may 
be other ways to do it, but this should work.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:13 AM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
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> 
> Hi all. 
> 
> Hoping someone can help with this. I have a Word document saved in files on 
> my IPhone. I need to convert this file to a PDF file so I can send it on to 
> various people who've asked for it in PDF form instead. So just wondered if 
> anyone could give me some idiot-proof instructions as to how I can convert my 
> Word file to PDF on my IPhone please? And if I need to use a 3rd-party app, 
> can anyone recommend a good/accessible one with VO. 
> 
> Many thanks for any help. 
> 
> Eleanor 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Iphone 13 Pro 120hz Display

Well, after I receive my phone on Friday and get it set up, I can give a 
comparison between the 13 pro and the SE 2020.
I have my doubts it will make much difference but no one knows until the phone 
is in your hands.




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tejvir C
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Iphone 13 Pro 120hz Display

Hello All,

I am looking to purchase a new IPhone for myself.

I am curious whether the 120hz refresh rate on the IPhone 13 Pro will be 
advantageous for a VI in any way and whether it is worth shelling out the extra 
amount.

If not I'll like to go for the 12 series since it seems that there is hardly 
any difference between the last year and this year's models.

Your suggestions will be appreciated.

With Regards,
Tejvir.

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RE: How can I listen to audio messages in WhatsApp?

2021-09-21 Thread Rena

The problem is that I don’t find the messages. What should I do to find the 
messages? When I open the app I only find some settings.

Would anyone please explain?

 

Rena

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ken Brown
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:45 AM
To: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: How can I listen to audio messages in WhatsApp?

 

You should be able to just double tap on the message and here it.





On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

 

When someone sends me a message I don’t know how to listen to it. I open 
WhatsApp, but I only find some settings about how long I want to keep messages.

Any help, please?

 

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Iphone 13 Pro 120hz Display

2021-09-21 Thread Tejvir C

Hello All,

I am looking to purchase a new IPhone for myself.

I am curious whether the 120hz refresh rate on the IPhone 13 Pro will
be advantageous for a VI in any way and whether it is worth shelling
out the extra amount.

If not I'll like to go for the 12 series since it seems that there is
hardly any difference between the last year and this year's models.

Your suggestions will be appreciated.

With Regards,
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RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

2021-09-21 Thread Star Gazer

Let Amazon know if you see something that doesn’t look right. They are indeed 
trying, but they can’t fix what they don’t know. 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

Lots of folks out there doing that very thing.  It’s almost a dishonest 
approach to Amazon shopping.  

I’m shocked that Amazon doesn’t monitor that type of activity more closely.

As for you, I know you wouldn’t do that because you are just too honest!

Have an awesome day!

Reg

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

No problem, Reg, I'll just order them from Amazon and sell them for $50 more, 
you are rich so shouldn't be a problem, right?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: September 20, 2021 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

I will  be having the Ecobee 4th generation installed this week.

Will let you know how it works then.

Too bad Sieghard didn’t sell them in his store, we could have all ordered them 
from him!

Smile….Reg

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom  
Subject: Re: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

One that works well with Alexa is the Ecobee.  I don't have one myself, but I 
know several people who have and like it.

Andy

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:49 AM

Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

Check to see what thermostats the installer carries that work with the Total 
Connect comfort app.  Certainly many of the newer Honeywell thermostats will, 
but I know other brands also work with it.

You should be able to find out quickly if they work with Echo devices by 
opening the add device and click on thermostats, and I think it offers a list 
of potential thermostats.  I can check after a while, but wanted to get this 
sent since you are on a tight time frame.

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom  
Cc: e...@groups.io  
Subject: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

Hi List,

Unfortunately, I’m having to replace my central heating and air conditioning 
systems. I don’t have the specific manufacturer make and model of the system 
I’ve chosen but it is made by Trane. Since a new thermostat is required with 
the new system, it makes sense to get one that is accessible with my iPhone and 
also works with my Amazon Echo so that the installers of the new system can 
install it at the same time. I’m dealing with a tight timeframe since the 
installation process starts tomorrow.

I know this topic has come up repeatedly but I’m hoping someone would not mind 
reposting their recommendation for accessible thermostats. Any comments on 
which systems are required to work with a particular accessible thermostat are 
also needed.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Alan Lemly

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RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15

It does not work like that for me on my iPhone 11. If you think it's a bug I 
would report it to accessibil...@apple.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: September 21, 2021 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15

Hello Sieghard,

I have just received an e-mail and read it in the usual way.  As far as I can 
tell there is nothing special or peculiar about this message.

Having read it, I exit the message as usual, so I’m back in my inbox.

Now, if I exit the mail app via Task Switcher and relaunch the mail app I am 
back in the message I was previously reading.

As Richard suggested, I go to my home page then bring up Task Switcher, then 
quit mail, at next launch I’m back in the message.

This behaviour persists even if I restart my iPhone.

Strangely if I leave it for a while around 7 hours normal behaviour is restored.

I have experienced this no matter what folder a message resides in.  The other 
day I went into my sent messages folder and even though I then switched back to 
my inbox and read other messages I received, on launching the mail app the sent 
message was opened for me.

Rather strange.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 21 Sep 2021, at 16:00, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I can confirm Richard's findings with my Exchange and two Outlook accounts. 
> If I exit Mail with a message open I am returned to that message when I open 
> Mail again even if I remove Mail from the app switcher.
> If I exit the message and go back to the Inbox before exiting Mail then I an 
> returned to the Inbox and the message list. It is not usually my practice to 
> exit the Mail app with a message open so I probably would have never noticed 
> this, the only time I may do this is if I go to another app but want to go 
> back to Mail and refer back to a message for some piece of information.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: September 21, 2021 7:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
> 
> Hello Richard,
> 
> I have been making extensive use of the mail app today and until now I have 
> not experienced the issue I described.
> 
> However, I have just received a message and no matter what I do I cannot get 
> the mail app to not open that message when launching the mail app.
> 
> I have tried your suggestion, for which many thanks, but the app still opens 
> this particular message when launched.
> 
> It only happens on certain messages although I cannot establish a pattern or 
> reason why it occurred.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2021, at 21:36, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> I did some ore testing in iOS 15 mail app.
>> 
>> I think this new behavior is a feature, not a bug.
>> 
>> If you close mail while a message is open, you are returned to that message. 
>>  
>> If you close the message, then press the home button to get to the home 
>> screen, then double tap the home button (or do the equivalent gesture), and 
>> close mail, when I opened mail I was just in the inbox, not in an open 
>> message.
>> 
>> If, however, I closed the email, and immediately double tapped home and 
>> close mail out of the app switcher, when I open mail again, I'm back in that 
>> last message I had read.
>> 
>> So, apparently, they are trying to help you keep track of where you were.  
>> Not a feature I particularly like, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple 
>> thinks of this as a feature, and not a bug.
>> 
>> Just be sure to 1. Close the message, 2. Pres home to return to the home 
>> screen, then 3. Use the app switcher to close mail out of the app switcher.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
>> 
>> I've seen the issue of being in a previously read message, in the beta and 
>> I've not dealt with email enough to duplicate in the released version, but 
>> you just have to close the message and move on to other messages.  I didn't 
>> have to delete the message.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1c0706a6f05d456fb36708d97c71ff2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677651317102686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=e4B7zwmKsDGgGZ8Qxq%2FurZBoE2YnGj7cesCvQp9gEG4%3Dreserved=0
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>> -Original Message-
>>

RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

2021-09-21 Thread Reg Sullivan

Lots of folks out there doing that very thing.  It’s almost a dishonest 
approach to Amazon shopping.  

I’m shocked that Amazon doesn’t monitor that type of activity more closely.

As for you, I know you wouldn’t do that because you are just too honest!

 

Have an awesome day!

 

Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

 

No problem, Reg, I'll just order them from Amazon and sell them for $50 more, 
you are rich so shouldn't be a problem, right?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: September 20, 2021 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

 

I will  be having the Ecobee 4th generation installed this week.

Will let you know how it works then.

 

Too bad Sieghard didn’t sell them in his store, we could have all ordered them 
from him!

 

Smile….Reg

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom  
Subject: Re: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

 

One that works well with Alexa is the Ecobee.  I don't have one myself, but I 
know several people who have and like it.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:49 AM

Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

 

Check to see what thermostats the installer carries that work with the Total 
Connect comfort app.  Certainly many of the newer Honeywell thermostats will, 
but I know other brands also work with it.

You should be able to find out quickly if they work with Echo devices by 
opening the add device and click on thermostats, and I think it offers a list 
of potential thermostats.  I can check after a while, but wanted to get this 
sent since you are on a tight time frame.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom  
Cc: e...@groups.io  
Subject: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

 

Hi List,

 

Unfortunately, I’m having to replace my central heating and air conditioning 
systems. I don’t have the specific manufacturer make and model of the system 
I’ve chosen but it is made by Trane. Since a new thermostat is required with 
the new system, it makes sense to get one that is accessible with my iPhone and 
also works with my Amazon Echo so that the installers of the new system can 
install it at the same time. I’m dealing with a tight timeframe since the 
installation process starts tomorrow.

 

I know this topic has come up repeatedly but I’m hoping someone would not mind 
reposting their recommendation for accessible thermostats. Any comments on 
which systems are required to work with a particular accessible thermostat are 
also needed.

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: An iPhone question for a friend

Then this would be the issue, I believe the 5 and 5C only support up to iOS 9 
or 10 at most.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: September 20, 2021 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An iPhone question for a friend

According to the BARD Mobile user guide found under Help, the latest version of 
BARD Mobile requires iOS version 11 or later to work.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:22:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: An iPhone question for a friend

You can download them on any device where you have installed the app and signed 
in.
Perhaps, the new app is not compatible with the older operating system?
She probably could find out through her local NLS library.
HTH,

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner

website:  www.turner42.com

On Sep 20, 2021, at 3:14 PM, 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I have a friend with an iPhone SE 2020 and an iPhone 5C.  The 5C doesn’t have a 
simm card in it but it still works on their wifi.

Her question is, can she download Bard books on both phones?  So far, something 
is going wrong when she tries to download books to the 5C but no problem when 
she tries with the SE 2020.

Thanks for any help.

James B
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RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

To each their own, this sounds like a somewhat clunky solution to me having to 
purchase two things and I for one certainly would not want to carry my 
thermostat around from room to room and next thing I am running around trying 
to find it.
The Honeywell T10 allows you to add sensors to multiple rooms and I believe so 
does the Ecobee and maybe the Nest. I prefer to just tell Alexa in whichever 
room I am in to turn the heat up or down.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
Arrigo
Sent: September 20, 2021 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: e...@groups.io
Subject: Re: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

I just replaced my thermostat, the main reason was that I did not have the 
ability to manually switch the fan on and off, it only worked when the heat or 
A.C. was on, I only have 3 wires in the wall. What I got was a Honeywell 
wireless thermostat, the receiver is what connects to the system and you can 
put the thermostat any place you want. I didn't even mount it to the wall, I 
just carry it with me from room to room, that way the room I'm in has an 
accurate temperature reading. If you purchase the internet gateway, you can 
control the thermostat using your phone or Amazon echo. This is the first time 
I have had a thermostat with this feature and it's very nice.
Here are the links to the thermostat and the gateway if you want to go with 
this set up. I think it works great.
Here is the link to the thermostat kit. This includes the thermostat and the 
receiver that will connect to the control board of your air handler.
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Honeywell-Home-YTH5320R1000-RedLINK-Wireless-FocusPro-Non-Programmable-Thermostat-Kit
And here is a link to the internet gateway that will allow the thermostat to be 
controlled with your phone and echo.
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Honeywell-Home-THM6000R7001-RedLINK-Internet-Gateway

> On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> Unfortunately, I’m having to replace my central heating and air conditioning 
> systems. I don’t have the specific manufacturer make and model of the system 
> I’ve chosen but it is made by Trane. Since a new thermostat is required with 
> the new system, it makes sense to get one that is accessible with my iPhone 
> and also works with my Amazon Echo so that the installers of the new system 
> can install it at the same time. I’m dealing with a tight timeframe since the 
> installation process starts tomorrow.
>  
> I know this topic has come up repeatedly but I’m hoping someone would not 
> mind reposting their recommendation for accessible thermostats. Any comments 
> on which systems are required to work with a particular accessible thermostat 
> are also needed.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

2021-09-21 Thread Star Gazer

I haven't updated yet. When I do, how do I get to the focused notifications?  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Personally I don't find there is much of a difference on my iPhone 11 in terms 
of speed and responsiveness. I also haven't come across any serious issues.
I have only used SIRI a little since yesterday asking to call somebody and 
dictating a few short messages, but so far it may just be a little better which 
one would hope now that all SIRI requests are handled on device and not in the 
cloud any more. I really hope SIRI saying "Working on that" or "Still working 
on that" will not be an issue any more because lately that happened too often 
for my liking. If I ask SIRI to call one of my contacts I want this to happen 
now and not 10 seconds later.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: September 21, 2021 4:53 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: IOS15 Initial impressions

All I can say is wow! I decided to take the plunge this morning and update my 
device (an Se2020) thanks to a friend telling me via Twitter last night that on 
his SE2020, iOS15 runs great! And it does! The speed of the phone is as fast as 
if I hadn’t updated I say this because generally when you update, the IPHone 
tends to slow down a bit?
The download took itself took about 40/45 minutes; the installation and restart 
about 8 minutes.and when the phone restarted, and after setting up stuff Apple 
asks for (the code etc), away I plunged! So far I haven’t gone into the Focus 
feature (which I’m really looking forward to setting it up and giving it a try).
So far, it was more the nerves than anything! I’ll continue reporting.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

No problem, Reg, I'll just order them from Amazon and sell them for $50 more, 
you are rich so shouldn't be a problem, right?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: September 20, 2021 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

I will  be having the Ecobee 4th generation installed this week.
Will let you know how it works then.

Too bad Sieghard didn’t sell them in his store, we could have all ordered them 
from him!

Smile….Reg

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

One that works well with Alexa is the Ecobee.  I don't have one myself, but I 
know several people who have and like it.

Andy

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

Check to see what thermostats the installer carries that work with the Total 
Connect comfort app.  Certainly many of the newer Honeywell thermostats will, 
but I know other brands also work with it.
You should be able to find out quickly if they work with Echo devices by 
opening the add device and click on thermostats, and I think it offers a list 
of potential thermostats.  I can check after a while, but wanted to get this 
sent since you are on a tight time frame.

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: e...@groups.io
Subject: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

Hi List,

Unfortunately, I’m having to replace my central heating and air conditioning 
systems. I don’t have the specific manufacturer make and model of the system 
I’ve chosen but it is made by Trane. Since a new thermostat is required with 
the new system, it makes sense to get one that is accessible with my iPhone and 
also works with my Amazon Echo so that the installers of the new system can 
install it at the same time. I’m dealing with a tight timeframe since the 
installation process starts tomorrow.

I know this topic has come up repeatedly but I’m hoping someone would not mind 
reposting their recommendation for accessible thermostats. Any comments on 
which systems are required to work with a particular accessible thermostat are 
also needed.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Alan Lemly
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RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

And the Focus option is quite good, I turned off my daily 10 PM to 6:30 AM 
schedule for Do Not Disturb now and instead set up the Sleep focus for that, 
how much I will make use of setting up and activating other focus patterns I 
don't know yet, time will tell whether I find it useful, but this of course may 
be different for others..

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: September 21, 2021 4:53 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: IOS15 Initial impressions

All I can say is wow! I decided to take the plunge this morning and update my 
device (an Se2020) thanks to a friend telling me via Twitter last night that on 
his SE2020, iOS15 runs great! And it does! The speed of the phone is as fast as 
if I hadn’t updated I say this because generally when you update, the IPHone 
tends to slow down a bit?
The download took itself took about 40/45 minutes; the installation and restart 
about 8 minutes.and when the phone restarted, and after setting up stuff Apple 
asks for (the code etc), away I plunged! So far I haven’t gone into the Focus 
feature (which I’m really looking forward to setting it up and giving it a try).
So far, it was more the nerves than anything! I’ll continue reporting.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Personally I don't find there is much of a difference on my iPhone 11 in terms 
of speed and responsiveness. I also haven't come across any serious issues.
I have only used SIRI a little since yesterday asking to call somebody and 
dictating a few short messages, but so far it may just be a little better which 
one would hope now that all SIRI requests are handled on device and not in the 
cloud any more. I really hope SIRI saying "Working on that" or "Still working 
on that" will not be an issue any more because lately that happened too often 
for my liking. If I ask SIRI to call one of my contacts I want this to happen 
now and not 10 seconds later.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: September 21, 2021 4:53 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: IOS15 Initial impressions

All I can say is wow! I decided to take the plunge this morning and update my 
device (an Se2020) thanks to a friend telling me via Twitter last night that on 
his SE2020, iOS15 runs great! And it does! The speed of the phone is as fast as 
if I hadn’t updated I say this because generally when you update, the IPHone 
tends to slow down a bit?
The download took itself took about 40/45 minutes; the installation and restart 
about 8 minutes.and when the phone restarted, and after setting up stuff Apple 
asks for (the code etc), away I plunged! So far I haven’t gone into the Focus 
feature (which I’m really looking forward to setting it up and giving it a try).
So far, it was more the nerves than anything! I’ll continue reporting.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15

2021-09-21 Thread Malcolm Parfitt

Hello Sieghard,

I have just received an e-mail and read it in the usual way.  As far as I can 
tell there is nothing special or peculiar about this message.

Having read it, I exit the message as usual, so I’m back in my inbox.

Now, if I exit the mail app via Task Switcher and relaunch the mail app I am 
back in the message I was previously reading.

As Richard suggested, I go to my home page then bring up Task Switcher, then 
quit mail, at next launch I’m back in the message.

This behaviour persists even if I restart my iPhone.

Strangely if I leave it for a while around 7 hours normal behaviour is restored.

I have experienced this no matter what folder a message resides in.  The other 
day I went into my sent messages folder and even though I then switched back to 
my inbox and read other messages I received, on launching the mail app the sent 
message was opened for me.

Rather strange.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 21 Sep 2021, at 16:00, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I can confirm Richard's findings with my Exchange and two Outlook accounts. 
> If I exit Mail with a message open I am returned to that message when I open 
> Mail again even if I remove Mail from the app switcher.
> If I exit the message and go back to the Inbox before exiting Mail then I an 
> returned to the Inbox and the message list. It is not usually my practice to 
> exit the Mail app with a message open so I probably would have never noticed 
> this, the only time I may do this is if I go to another app but want to go 
> back to Mail and refer back to a message for some piece of information.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: September 21, 2021 7:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
> 
> Hello Richard,
> 
> I have been making extensive use of the mail app today and until now I have 
> not experienced the issue I described.
> 
> However, I have just received a message and no matter what I do I cannot get 
> the mail app to not open that message when launching the mail app.
> 
> I have tried your suggestion, for which many thanks, but the app still opens 
> this particular message when launched.
> 
> It only happens on certain messages although I cannot establish a pattern or 
> reason why it occurred.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2021, at 21:36, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> I did some ore testing in iOS 15 mail app.
>> 
>> I think this new behavior is a feature, not a bug.
>> 
>> If you close mail while a message is open, you are returned to that message. 
>>  
>> If you close the message, then press the home button to get to the home 
>> screen, then double tap the home button (or do the equivalent gesture), and 
>> close mail, when I opened mail I was just in the inbox, not in an open 
>> message.
>> 
>> If, however, I closed the email, and immediately double tapped home and 
>> close mail out of the app switcher, when I open mail again, I'm back in that 
>> last message I had read.
>> 
>> So, apparently, they are trying to help you keep track of where you were.  
>> Not a feature I particularly like, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple 
>> thinks of this as a feature, and not a bug.
>> 
>> Just be sure to 1. Close the message, 2. Pres home to return to the home 
>> screen, then 3. Use the app switcher to close mail out of the app switcher.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
>> 
>> I've seen the issue of being in a previously read message, in the beta and 
>> I've not dealt with email enough to duplicate in the released version, but 
>> you just have to close the message and move on to other messages.  I didn't 
>> have to delete the message.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1c0706a6f05d456fb36708d97c71ff2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677651317102686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=e4B7zwmKsDGgGZ8Qxq%2FurZBoE2YnGj7cesCvQp9gEG4%3Dreserved=0
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 12:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
>> 
>> As I have not seen this issue mentioned and now iOS15 is out of beta I would 
>> welcome list members' opinion on the following

RE: putting a pdf file on your phone and beaing able to shair it with some one? how would I do this?

Where is the PDF file, somewhere online or on your computer?
If it is on your computer the easiest would be to use Dropbox or OneDrive, if 
you don't have either one the next easiest thing would be to email it to 
yourself, then you can forward the email from your iPhone although of course 
you can simply share it with another person by email directly from your 
computer.
If you email it to yourself you can also save the PDF attachment on your phone, 
best place is probably the Files app, then you can share it from there any way 
you like, by email, by message, Airdrop or whatever.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 21, 2021 4:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: putting a pdf file on your phone and beaing able to shair it with some 
one? how would I do this?

Hi all. I am wondering how would I put a pdf file on to my iPhone 8 and be able 
to shair it with some one? Many thanks. From Mich.
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RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15

I can confirm Richard's findings with my Exchange and two Outlook accounts. If 
I exit Mail with a message open I am returned to that message when I open Mail 
again even if I remove Mail from the app switcher.
If I exit the message and go back to the Inbox before exiting Mail then I an 
returned to the Inbox and the message list. It is not usually my practice to 
exit the Mail app with a message open so I probably would have never noticed 
this, the only time I may do this is if I go to another app but want to go back 
to Mail and refer back to a message for some piece of information.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: September 21, 2021 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15

Hello Richard,

I have been making extensive use of the mail app today and until now I have not 
experienced the issue I described.

However, I have just received a message and no matter what I do I cannot get 
the mail app to not open that message when launching the mail app.

I have tried your suggestion, for which many thanks, but the app still opens 
this particular message when launched.

It only happens on certain messages although I cannot establish a pattern or 
reason why it occurred.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 20 Sep 2021, at 21:36, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I did some ore testing in iOS 15 mail app.
> 
> I think this new behavior is a feature, not a bug.
> 
> If you close mail while a message is open, you are returned to that message.  
> If you close the message, then press the home button to get to the home 
> screen, then double tap the home button (or do the equivalent gesture), and 
> close mail, when I opened mail I was just in the inbox, not in an open 
> message.
> 
> If, however, I closed the email, and immediately double tapped home and close 
> mail out of the app switcher, when I open mail again, I'm back in that last 
> message I had read.
> 
> So, apparently, they are trying to help you keep track of where you were.  
> Not a feature I particularly like, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple 
> thinks of this as a feature, and not a bug.
> 
> Just be sure to 1. Close the message, 2. Pres home to return to the home 
> screen, then 3. Use the app switcher to close mail out of the app switcher.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
> 
> I've seen the issue of being in a previously read message, in the beta and 
> I've not dealt with email enough to duplicate in the released version, but 
> you just have to close the message and move on to other messages.  I didn't 
> have to delete the message.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1c0706a6f05d456fb36708d97c71ff2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677651317102686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=e4B7zwmKsDGgGZ8Qxq%2FurZBoE2YnGj7cesCvQp9gEG4%3Dreserved=0
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
> 
> As I have not seen this issue mentioned and now iOS15 is out of beta I would 
> welcome list members' opinion on the following issue.
> 
> I have several imap accounts in the native mail app on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> What I am about to describe does not occur with any pattern that I can 
> identify.
> 
> Some times when I read a message, exit it then quit the mail app via Task 
> Switcher when I launch the mail app I am in the message I was previously 
> reading.  This behaviour occurs no matter what folder the message resides in.
> 
> If I restart the iPhone and launch the mail app I am still placed in the 
> message I was previously reading.
> 
> The only way to resolve this is to delete the message.  Obviously this is not 
> ideal if I want to keep it.
> 
> After a while, several hours launching the mail app normal behaviour is 
> restored and I am placed in my inbox rather than being in a particular 
> message.
> 
> I have described the strange issue to the best of my ability and wonder if 
> anyone else has experienced this.
> 
> I have never had this issue in any other version of iOS other than V15.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Game Day

2021-09-21 Thread Fred Olver

Also, I found that I could use Alexa to stream one of the Packers feeds last 
evening 97.1 wglq.

Fred
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Baracco 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:55 PM
  Subject: Re: Game Day

  None of the 49ers stations worked, except for KLAC that had other 
programming. I know of 2 stations that used to stream the games, but they bowed 
to pressure from the NFL and either dropped the streams or signed on with the 
NFL.

  Andy

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Game Day

I listened to the Seahawks yesterday with no problems. 
Are you all trying different stations, and not just the first one?
Remember, he is trying to get around the NFL'S limit to internet 
broadcasting of games.
He says to keep trying different stations and hopefully you find one that 
is ignoring the NFL and streaming the game.
No guarantees at all.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." -- Jane Wagner 

website:  www.turner42.com

  On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

  I noticed that as well. Last week i was able to find the 49ers game on 
KFIG, but no luck yesterday.  My thought is that the NFL launched some kind of 
crack down on the teams and stations.  Everyone has caught on to the fact that 
streaming is a cash cow, and the days of free and low cost content are becoming 
a thing of the past.

  Andy

- Original Message - 
From: Lehmann, Timothy A 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:46 AM
Subject: Game Day

I purchased the Game Day ap for listening to NFL games. Last year I was 
able to listen to NFL games. Now when I try to listen to NFL games the ap says 
radio blocked. Any idea how to get the games to open, so I can listen to them 
like I have before? Thanks and have a nice day!

Tim Lehmann

Access Specialist

Student Affairs

Missouri State University

Meyer Library 111G

901 South National Avenue

Springfield, Missouri 65897

Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158

mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo 
capability?

CAUTION: External Sender

Alan,

We recently got an Ecobee thermostat which was recommended by our HVAC 
company and it works with our Trane air conditioner.  I do not remember the 
specific model offhand, though.

My husband and I are both blind, and after the initial setup, we have 
had no issues using it with their app or Alexa.   The only time we needed 
sighted help was during the setup process to enter the WIFI information 
directly on the touch screen of the unit.  There may have been a way around 
this that we might have missed at the time, but a call to AIRA helped get this 
part done.

Anyway, we are very happy with this unit.

Pam

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo 
capability?

Alan,

Open the Amazon Alexa app on your phone and go to add new device and 
select thermostat and it will ask you for the brand and give you a pretty long 
list of brands.

That might help.

The company should be able to tell you which thermostats work with your 
new system that are Wi-Fi compatible.

HTH,

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.” – Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo 
capability?

Check to see what thermostats the installer carries that work with the 
Total Connect comfort app.  Certainly many of the newer Honeywell thermostats 
will, but I know other brands also work with it.

You should be able to find out quickly if they work with Echo devices 
by opening the add device and click on thermostats, and I think it offers a 
list of potential thermostats.  I can check after a while, but wanted to get 
this sent since you are on a tight time frame.

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.” – Jane Wagner

My Web

Re: Game Day

2021-09-21 Thread Fred Olver

Have tried listening to the Lions game two weeks in a row. With that team they 
are offering the television broadcast from whichever network is showing the 
game, no radio broadcast at all. Also, have gone to the oppositions' links and 
been able to listen to the radio side of things. Also, you might check to see 
if either CBS or ESPN is carrying your teams' broadcast.

Fred Olver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:44 PM
  Subject: Re: Game Day

  I listened to the Seahawks yesterday with no problems. 
  Are you all trying different stations, and not just the first one?
  Remember, he is trying to get around the NFL'S limit to internet broadcasting 
of games.
  He says to keep trying different stations and hopefully you find one that is 
ignoring the NFL and streaming the game.
  No guarantees at all.

  Richard
  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- Jane Wagner 

  website:  www.turner42.com

On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

I noticed that as well. Last week i was able to find the 49ers game on 
KFIG, but no luck yesterday.  My thought is that the NFL launched some kind of 
crack down on the teams and stations.  Everyone has caught on to the fact that 
streaming is a cash cow, and the days of free and low cost content are becoming 
a thing of the past.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lehmann, Timothy A 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:46 AM
  Subject: Game Day

  I purchased the Game Day ap for listening to NFL games. Last year I was 
able to listen to NFL games. Now when I try to listen to NFL games the ap says 
radio blocked. Any idea how to get the games to open, so I can listen to them 
like I have before? Thanks and have a nice day!

  Tim Lehmann

  Access Specialist

  Student Affairs

  Missouri State University

  Meyer Library 111G

  901 South National Avenue

  Springfield, Missouri 65897

  Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158

  mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
  Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:42 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

  CAUTION: External Sender

  Alan,

  We recently got an Ecobee thermostat which was recommended by our HVAC 
company and it works with our Trane air conditioner.  I do not remember the 
specific model offhand, though.

  My husband and I are both blind, and after the initial setup, we have had 
no issues using it with their app or Alexa.   The only time we needed sighted 
help was during the setup process to enter the WIFI information directly on the 
touch screen of the unit.  There may have been a way around this that we might 
have missed at the time, but a call to AIRA helped get this part done.

  Anyway, we are very happy with this unit.

  Pam

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:28 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

  Alan,

  Open the Amazon Alexa app on your phone and go to add new device and 
select thermostat and it will ask you for the brand and give you a pretty long 
list of brands.

  That might help.

  The company should be able to tell you which thermostats work with your 
new system that are Wi-Fi compatible.

  HTH,

  Richard

  “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.” – Jane Wagner

  My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:49 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

  Check to see what thermostats the installer carries that work with the 
Total Connect comfort app.  Certainly many of the newer Honeywell thermostats 
will, but I know other brands also work with it.

  You should be able to find out quickly if they work with Echo devices by 
opening the add device and click on thermostats, and I think it offers a list 
of potential thermostats.  I can check after a while, but wanted to get this 
sent since you are on a tight time frame.

  Richard

  “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.” – Jane Wagner

  My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
  Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:40 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Cc: e...@groups.io
  Subject:

Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15

2021-09-21 Thread Malcolm Parfitt

Hello Richard,

I have been making extensive use of the mail app today and until now I have not 
experienced the issue I described.

However, I have just received a message and no matter what I do I cannot get 
the mail app to not open that message when launching the mail app.

I have tried your suggestion, for which many thanks, but the app still opens 
this particular message when launched.

It only happens on certain messages although I cannot establish a pattern or 
reason why it occurred.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 20 Sep 2021, at 21:36, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I did some ore testing in iOS 15 mail app.
> 
> I think this new behavior is a feature, not a bug.
> 
> If you close mail while a message is open, you are returned to that message.  
> If you close the message, then press the home button to get to the home 
> screen, then double tap the home button (or do the equivalent gesture), and 
> close mail, when I opened mail I was just in the inbox, not in an open 
> message.
> 
> If, however, I closed the email, and immediately double tapped home and close 
> mail out of the app switcher, when I open mail again, I'm back in that last 
> message I had read.
> 
> So, apparently, they are trying to help you keep track of where you were.  
> Not a feature I particularly like, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple 
> thinks of this as a feature, and not a bug.
> 
> Just be sure to 1. Close the message, 2. Pres home to return to the home 
> screen, then 3. Use the app switcher to close mail out of the app switcher.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
> 
> I've seen the issue of being in a previously read message, in the beta and 
> I've not dealt with email enough to duplicate in the released version, but 
> you just have to close the message and move on to other messages.  I didn't 
> have to delete the message.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1c0706a6f05d456fb36708d97c71ff2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677651317102686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=e4B7zwmKsDGgGZ8Qxq%2FurZBoE2YnGj7cesCvQp9gEG4%3Dreserved=0
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
> 
> As I have not seen this issue mentioned and now iOS15 is out of beta I would 
> welcome list members' opinion on the following issue.
> 
> I have several imap accounts in the native mail app on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> What I am about to describe does not occur with any pattern that I can 
> identify.
> 
> Some times when I read a message, exit it then quit the mail app via Task 
> Switcher when I launch the mail app I am in the message I was previously 
> reading.  This behaviour occurs no matter what folder the message resides in.
> 
> If I restart the iPhone and launch the mail app I am still placed in the 
> message I was previously reading.
> 
> The only way to resolve this is to delete the message.  Obviously this is not 
> ideal if I want to keep it.
> 
> After a while, several hours launching the mail app normal behaviour is 
> restored and I am placed in my inbox rather than being in a particular 
> message.
> 
> I have described the strange issue to the best of my ability and wonder if 
> anyone else has experienced this.
> 
> I have never had this issue in any other version of iOS other than V15.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
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RE: putting a pdf file on your phone and beaing able to shair it with some one? how would I do this?

The easiest would be to email it to yourself and an attachment, and forward the 
email to them and double tap on include attachment when it asks.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: putting a pdf file on your phone and beaing able to shair it with some 
one? how would I do this?

Hi all. I am wondering how would I put a pdf file on to my iPhone 8 and be able 
to shair it with some one? Many thanks. From Mich.
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IOS15 Initial impressions

All I can say is wow! I decided to take the plunge this morning and update my 
device (an Se2020) thanks to a friend telling me via Twitter last night that on 
his SE2020, iOS15 runs great! And it does! The speed of the phone is as fast as 
if I hadn’t updated I say this because generally when you update, the IPHone 
tends to slow down a bit?
The download took itself took about 40/45 minutes; the installation and restart 
about 8 minutes.and when the phone restarted, and after setting up stuff Apple 
asks for (the code etc), away I plunged! So far I haven’t gone into the Focus 
feature (which I’m really looking forward to setting it up and giving it a try).
So far, it was more the nerves than anything! I’ll continue reporting.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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putting a pdf file on your phone and beaing able to shair it with some one? how would I do this?

Hi all. I am wondering how would I put a pdf file on to my iPhone 8 and be
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Re: adapter question

2021-09-21 Thread Frank Ventura

One other solution is a lightning splitter. It has one male lightning plug on 
one end and two female lightning ports on the other. Not sure if it would owkr 
with all applications.

Sincerely,
Frank Ventura

frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com

~Sent from my Apple Mac Book Air~


On Sep 18, 2021, at 12:04 AM, Kay Malmquist 
mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, I probably should have been more clear.  I would like to use the mic when 
I am using headphones and if I am using headphones  they would be taking up the 
lightning plug, thus I would need one on the adapter with the headphone jack.  
Kind of like what you might use if you were charging the phone wile using the 
headphone jack.  I hope this makes more sense.  By the way, thanks much for the 
link.  I'll have a look at it right away.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: adapter question

Hi Kay,
Doesn't the Zoom mic fit in the Mini Lightning port?
Anyway here is the link to the adapter that will let you use the standard 3.5 
MM headphone plugto the lightning port on the Mini.
Lightning to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter

https://store.apple.com/xc/product/MMX62AM/A




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com


On Sep 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Kay Malmquist 
mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 The microphone had a lightning plug on it. If you say you can buy it through 
Apple, I hate to sound like an idiot but where do I go to do this? That is 
about as cheap as I have seen or heard of. And I wouldn’t mind grabbing one. 
Thanks a bunch for coming back with the answer to this.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2021, at 8:35 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

 If you are talking just the 3.5 MM to lightning, the one Apple sells for 
about $9 is the best I've seen.
What plug is on your Zoom mic?



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com


On Sep 17, 2021, at 5:19 PM, Kay Malmquist 
mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi all you happy people out there,
I just got my iPhone 12 mini up and running.  Yes,I do have a Bluetooth 
headphone that I like but I also have a wired pair that I use a lot and now I 
would like to know what is the best adapter to buy so that I can use them?  
Just the straight adapter would be fine for now.  Eventually, I would like one 
that I could possibly plug my Zoom mike in to, but for now just being able to 
use these head phones would be great.  Any help is appreciated because I have 
heard that cheap is not necessarily better.  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

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RE: new Seven Little Words

2021-09-21 Thread CJ & AA MAY

Thanks for these tips. I will try them, but it was so simple to use before that 
it is a shame they felt the need to change.

Alison

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: 20 September 2021 19:37
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new Seven Little Words

Hi Alison,

Yes indeed this is definitely an update that broke things. I wrote to Blue Ox 
Family Games, the developer of 7 Little words, and below is the response I 
received:

Hi Debby,
The latest version of 7 Little Words does use a slightly different version of 
Voice Over which allows us to extend this game across both the iOS and Android 
platforms. As such, there are some modifications and we realize we have done a 
poor job of communicating them and are rushing a build out to remedy this.

First off, here are the touch commands for navigating the game board for each 
puzzle:

* swipe right and left to advance through the screen elements as before, but 
now you can swipe down and up to jump between the major screen sections (back 
button, clues, answer/spelling, tiles)

* use a two finger tap to switch between reading by word or letter and two 
finger swipe to advance through each clue

* when you select a tile as part of an answer, you remain in the tile section, 
which should reduce the number of swipes you need

To note, the two-finger tap to switch the reading by word or letter will be 
switched to a three-finger tap in the next build as it sometimes caused 
confusion with the two-finger swipe.

We have hired a blind accessibility contractor to help us make it as accessible 
as possible but we greatly appreciate your feedback on how we can do this 
better. Your feedback on the click noise for each move is something I will get 
addressed in a forthcoming build, so that if you decide to turn off the "sound 
effects" in the game, it will turn off this clicking sound as you swipe through 
the board.

Please let us know if this is helpful and again appreciate any additional 
feedback you might have.

Eric

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I have always enjoyed this word puzzled game on my iPhone but the recent 
changes are really making it frustrating to play. The enhancements make it much 
slower and it also seems to jump about. Is anyone else having better luck than 
me?

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2021-09-21 Thread Janet Bell

Hi Alison I looked on the app store at the updates and haven't got it
yet. maybe they have stopped it until they fix what they have done to
it. I very much doubt it but you never know. Janet

On 21/09/2021 11:41, CJ & AA MAY wrote:

For me the change only happened a couple of days ago, but I have seen
messages a week or so from people for whom it had changed.

I tried to use the game again this morning but gave up. It is so sluggish!

Alison

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Hi when did these changes happen I'm afraid I haven't noticed anything
different. Janet

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Re: For those of you coming from the beta

2021-09-21 Thread Greg Wocher

Hello,
There is a security update that shows up only after you delete the beta 
profile. You delete the beta profile, reset your device and then check for 
updates. After doing this there will be a iOS15 security update.

Greg Wocher


> On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:10 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I can't see any security update for the 15 IOS release 
> But if this is related to the security update released last week for the IOS 
> 14.8 version
> Then that would have been included in the IOS 15 release 
> Not a second update minutes after the original release was made.
> 
> I've removed and re installed the IOS public beta this afternoon and there is 
> again no change in versions 
> 
> So I'm thinking the security update that's being spoken of is the IOS 14.8 
> release from last week.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Tuesday, 21 September 2021 6:14 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: For those of you coming from the beta
> 
> Gordan,
> Are you saying there is a 15 beta security update?
> There is nothing about a security update for the public release.
> 
> Apple, I think as far back as I can remember, (which may not be that far 
> back,) has released security updates fairly quickly after the initial release.
> Hence, Rob's warnings about updating quickly on his Today in iOS Podcasts ...
> 
> Each person needs to choose according to their risk tolerance.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
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> 
> I wanted to post this quick note to let you know there's a security update 
> for 15. So you need to delete the configuration profile and get it. I'm 
> letting people know because it looks important and I want to make sure 
> everyone stays secure and doesn't have any issues.
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RE: new Seven Little Words

2021-09-21 Thread CJ & AA MAY

For me the change only happened a couple of days ago, but I have seen messages 
a week or so from people for whom it had changed.

I tried to use the game again this morning but gave up. It is so sluggish!

Alison

 

 

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Bell
Sent: 21 September 2021 07:59
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Hi when did these changes happen I'm afraid I haven't noticed anything 
different.  Janet

On 20/09/2021 18:49, CJ & AA MAY wrote:

I have always enjoyed this word puzzled game on my iPhone but the recent 
changes are really making it frustrating to play. The enhancements make it much 
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Can anyone tell me how I can convert a word file to PDF on my IPhone please?

2021-09-21 Thread 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone

Hi all. 

Hoping someone can help with this. I have a Word document saved in files on my 
IPhone. I need to convert this file to a PDF file so I can send it on to 
various people who've asked for it in PDF form instead. So just wondered if 
anyone could give me some idiot-proof instructions as to how I can convert my 
Word file to PDF on my IPhone please? And if I need to use a 3rd-party app, can 
anyone recommend a good/accessible one with VO. 

Many thanks for any help. 

Eleanor 

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Re: new Seven Little Words

2021-09-21 Thread Janet Bell

Hi when did these changes happen I'm afraid I haven't noticed anything 
different.  Janet


On 20/09/2021 18:49, CJ & AA MAY wrote:


I have always enjoyed this word puzzled game on my iPhone but the 
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anyone else having better luck than me?


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RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

Dude,

If temperatures get to those negative levels,

I’d suggest moving to a warmer climate
Or getting a big open fire that you can roast a beast on as well as keep warm!

Cause that’s bloody cold.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, 21 September 2021 5:46 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I think it depends a bit on what type of system you re getting. Doesn't the 
company which installs your system have any recommendations? I recently asked 
for a quote to upgrade my 25-year old mid efficiency natural gas furnace to a 
new high efficiency furnace and heat pump. For us up here in northern BC a heat 
pump can have a lot of advantages, unfortunately it is too cold in the winter 
at times to rely on it exclusively since once you get to below -5 or -8 degrees 
it can't take any heat out of the air any more and you still need an 
alternative source furnace like natural gas or electric.
Anyways, my point is that the quote I received is for an American Standard 
furnace and heat pump which are all linked together and in order to get the 
best performance you also need the American Standard thermostat. I have this 
also at my retail store and the app which is called "AS Home" is quite 
accessible, not so much the scheduling option, but all the rest I would say is 
just as good as with my Honeywell Lyric T5 which uses the Honeywell Home app 
and while I don't think the American Standard thermostat is home kit 
compatible, it is compatible with both Alexa and google.
If you can have any thermostat you want I think the Honeywell Lyric line are a 
good choice which would be the T10 if you want it to be compatible with air 
conditioning.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: September 20, 2021 9:40 AM
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Subject: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

Hi List,

Unfortunately, I’m having to replace my central heating and air conditioning 
systems. I don’t have the specific manufacturer make and model of the system 
I’ve chosen but it is made by Trane. Since a new thermostat is required with 
the new system, it makes sense to get one that is accessible with my iPhone and 
also works with my Amazon Echo so that the installers of the new system can 
install it at the same time. I’m dealing with a tight timeframe since the 
installation process starts tomorrow.

I know this topic has come up repeatedly but I’m hoping someone would not mind 
reposting their recommendation for accessible thermostats. Any comments on 
which systems are required to work with a particular accessible thermostat are 
also needed.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Alan Lemly
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