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Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

2022-10-04 Thread Mike B.

Tried that and no go.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared 
up

after rebooting the phone, do the 2 finger quadruple tap and you should find 
it in the quick settings if you left it turned on in VoiceOver Recognition.
Then it might show up in the settings ... this is not one of Apple's better 
attempts at a feature.

Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com

  On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mike B.  wrote:

  I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple 
of apps.  It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings.

  But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off! 
LOL  LOL

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM
  Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

  First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked 
about until iOS 15.

  To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under 
Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition.

  If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings.

  I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure 
enough, it disappeared from Quick Settings.

  When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the 
phone before it showed up again in quick Settings.  Not sure why, but that 
is what I did.

  My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick 
settings.  There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick 
Settings instead of in the Rotor.

  Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple 
tap.  It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional 
about bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate 
when you wanted to jump by headings, etc.

  You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure 
out it helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen 
Recognition and double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you 
want it to default to on.

  HTH,

  Richard, USA.

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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread bentleyj1952

Thank you sir, very much.

James B  

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Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 11:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

Hi James,

Yes but you do it in Accessibility / Voiceover / Quick Settings, and not where 
the quick settings are opened accessed using the 2 finger quadruple tap.

So, open the quick settings as described above and while in quick settings 
swipe to the feature you want to move.  Let's use, Activities, as an example.

Swipe to Activities, and you'll hear selected Activities, now swipe one more 
time to, reorder Activities.  Here do a single finger swipe up to either move 
up or move down, and do asingle finger double tap.

It'll move in the direction you selected and you'll receive confirmation from 
Voiceover of it's action.  Any of these items can be moved in the same way from 
it's reorder... option.  Now close out and using the 2 finger quadruple tap 
gesture you can open the quick settings to see if the features are arranged the 
way you want them.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

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From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 7:57 PM

Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

Can I reorder these VO quick settings?  If so, how?

James B  

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William James
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO settings, 
it will tell you.  I’ll tell you though. 

You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers.  A double 
magic tap., so to speak.

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Then, how do you use Quick Settings? 
> 
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> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William James
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
> the Rotor
> 
> If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down 
> to the end, you will see quick settings.  You will find Screen Recognition in 
> there.  Only a few things are selected at the outset.  Think of this as the 
> rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
> 
> 
>On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly   > wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
>Mike:
> 
>Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am 
> running 16.02 on a SE 2020.
> 
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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Mike B.

Cool, thanks for this tip.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor

You can also do the double tap and hold on the move X app and slide down or 
up and if you go slowly, it will tell you which app you have moved it above 
or below.

You only have the height of the screen to move with good info, but you can 
end up moving it all the way to the top or bottom pretty easily.

HTH,

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
t.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor

Hi James,

Yes but you do it in Accessibility / Voiceover / Quick Settings, and not 
where the quick settings are opened accessed using the 2 finger quadruple 
tap.

So, open the quick settings as described above and while in quick settings 
swipe to the feature you want to move.  Let's use, Activities, as an 
example.

Swipe to Activities, and you'll hear selected Activities, now swipe one more 
time to, reorder Activities.  Here do a single finger swipe up to either 
move up or move down, and do asingle finger double tap.

It'll move in the direction you selected and you'll receive confirmation 
from Voiceover of it's action.  Any of these items can be moved in the same 
way from it's reorder... option.  Now close out and using the 2 finger 
quadruple tap gesture you can open the quick settings to see if the features 
are arranged the way you want them.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 

From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 7:57 PM

Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor

Can I reorder these VO quick settings?  If so, how?

James B

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
William James
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor

If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO 
settings, it will tell you.  I’ll tell you though. 

You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers.  A 
double magic tap., so to speak.

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Then, how do you use Quick Settings?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of William James
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
> not the Rotor
>
> If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way 
> down to the end, you will see quick settings.  You will find Screen 
> Recognition in there.  Only a few things are selected at the outset. 
> Think of this as the rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings 
> instead.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
>
>
>On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Mike:
>
>Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I 
> am running 16.02 on a SE 2020.
>
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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

You can also do the double tap and hold on the move X app and slide down or up 
and if you go slowly, it will tell you which app you have moved it above or 
below.

You only have the height of the screen to move with good info, but you can end 
up moving it all the way to the top or bottom pretty easily.

HTH,

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

Hi James,

Yes but you do it in Accessibility / Voiceover / Quick Settings, and not where 
the quick settings are opened accessed using the 2 finger quadruple tap.

So, open the quick settings as described above and while in quick settings 
swipe to the feature you want to move.  Let's use, Activities, as an example.

Swipe to Activities, and you'll hear selected Activities, now swipe one more 
time to, reorder Activities.  Here do a single finger swipe up to either move 
up or move down, and do asingle finger double tap.

It'll move in the direction you selected and you'll receive confirmation from 
Voiceover of it's action.  Any of these items can be moved in the same way from 
it's reorder... option.  Now close out and using the 2 finger quadruple tap 
gesture you can open the quick settings to see if the features are arranged the 
way you want them.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

- Original Message - 

From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 7:57 PM

Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

Can I reorder these VO quick settings?  If so, how?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
William James
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO settings, 
it will tell you.  I’ll tell you though. 

You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers.  A double 
magic tap., so to speak.

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Then, how do you use Quick Settings? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William James
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
> the Rotor
> 
> If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down 
> to the end, you will see quick settings.  You will find Screen Recognition in 
> there.  Only a few things are selected at the outset.  Think of this as the 
> rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
> 
> 
>On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly   > wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
>Mike:
> 
>Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am 
> running 16.02 on a SE 2020.
> 
>
> 
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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Mike B.

Hi James,

Yes but you do it in Accessibility / Voiceover / Quick Settings, and not 
where the quick settings are opened accessed using the 2 finger quadruple 
tap.

So, open the quick settings as described above and while in quick settings 
swipe to the feature you want to move.  Let's use, Activities, as an 
example.

Swipe to Activities, and you'll hear selected Activities, now swipe one more 
time to, reorder Activities.  Here do a single finger swipe up to either 
move up or move down, and do asingle finger double tap.

It'll move in the direction you selected and you'll receive confirmation 
from Voiceover of it's action.  Any of these items can be moved in the same 
way from it's reorder... option.  Now close out and using the 2 finger 
quadruple tap gesture you can open the quick settings to see if the features 
are arranged the way you want them.




Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 7:57 PM
Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor


Can I reorder these VO quick settings?  If so, how?

James B

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
William James
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor

If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO 
settings, it will tell you.  I’ll tell you though. 

You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers.  A 
double magic tap., so to speak.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Then, how do you use Quick Settings?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of William James
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
> not the Rotor
>
> If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way 
> down to the end, you will see quick settings.  You will find Screen 
> Recognition in there.  Only a few things are selected at the outset. 
> Think of this as the rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings 
> instead.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
>
>
>On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Mike:
>
>Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I 
> am running 16.02 on a SE 2020.
>
>
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Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

2022-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

after rebooting the phone, do the 2 finger quadruple tap and you should find it in the quick settings if you left it turned on in VoiceOver Recognition.Then it might show up in the settings ... this is not one of Apple's better attempts at a feature.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Oct 4, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mike B.  wrote:






I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / 
turned on a couple of apps.  It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick 
settings. But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had 
it turned off!  LOL  LOL  
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM
Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of 
cleared up


First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was 
seldom talked about until iOS 15.
 
To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn 
it on under Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver 
Recognition.
If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick 
Settings.
 
I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition 
and sure enough, it disappeared from Quick Settings.  
When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to 
reboot the phone before it showed up again in quick Settings.  Not sure 
why, but that is what I did.
 
My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in 
quick settings.  There are other settings you may find it better to have in 
Quick Settings instead of in the Rotor.  
 
Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 
finger quadruple tap.  It functions like the rotor, but since you have to 
be more intentional about bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice 
speaking rate when you wanted to jump by headings, etc.
 
You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once 
you figure out it helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen 
Recognition and double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you 
want it to default to on.
 
HTH,
Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life 
in the Universe
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
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Re: Any recommendations?

2022-10-04 Thread Kelly Pierce

But the Mag Safe is tied to a wall outlet.  If you are looking for
convenience, I have a dedicated wall charging block with a 10 foot USB
to lightning cable attached to it. It is always connected to the wall.
Plugging in the iPhone is effortless.  This is a lot less inexpensive
than the Mag Safe business.

Kelly

On 10/4/22, Cris Ali  wrote:
> Thanks Kelly,
> I can understand your reservations. I thought about what you said but found
> the alternative very expensive.  Buying MagSafe wireless power banks  are
> very expensive. That is the only choice that does not tie you to a wall
> outlet as you charge your device.
> Cheers,
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 10:07 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>
>> I was unimpressed with the mag safe technology. The charging pad still
>> needs to be plugged in so I can just plug in my iPhone once a day.
>> Also, I wanted a leather case and mag safe chargers make noticeable
>> marks in the leather case, destroying its elegance.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 10/4/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> You know, I bought it last fall when I got my 13 pro; and I was at the
>>> Verizon store helping a friend sort out what she was going to upgrade to
>>> and
>>> they had them on sale ... I think it came with the charger, but I cannot
>>> swear to that as my friend bought it for me as a thank you for my help.
>>> She
>>> ended up getting a 12 pro and the same charger plus Airpods and the whole
>>> 9
>>> yards.
>>> I am pretty sure the price included the charger.
>>> In any case, always ask before buying.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Cris
>>> Ali
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 12:08 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Any recommendations?
>>>
>>> Thanks Richard,
>>> Does the Apple MagSafe Wireless charger come with the 20 What adapter or
>>> one
>>> has to order it separately?
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Oct 4, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Richard Turner

 wrote:

 I bought the Magsafe wireless charger made by Apple.

 I just have a very simple, clear, case.  No screen protector.  I think
 it
 was about $10.
 I've never damaged a screen on any iDevice since my iPod Touch 3rd Gen.
 in
 2009.

 Richard, USA.
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
 it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the
 Universe

 My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 Cris Ali
 Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:45 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Any recommendations?

 Hi folks,
 I went ahead and ordered iPhone 14 Pro, which I expect to get in 3
 weeks.
 Now I am thinking of buying two accessories for it. Here where I need
 your
 recommendations based on first hand experience.
 First, I need advice on getting asolid and powerful fast magsafe
 wireless
 charger.
 Second, i need advice on getting a good magsafe compatible protective
 case. I do not like the bulky type and I prefer the transparent ones.
 Any recommendations will be appreciated.
 Regards

 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

2022-10-04 Thread Mike B.

I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple 
of apps.  It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings.

But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off! 
LOL  LOL



Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM
Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up


First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked 
about until iOS 15.



To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under 
Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition.

If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings.



I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, 
it disappeared from Quick Settings.

When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone 
before it showed up again in quick Settings.  Not sure why, but that is what 
I did.



My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings. 
There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings 
instead of in the Rotor.



Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple 
tap.  It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional 
about bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate 
when you wanted to jump by headings, etc.



You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out 
it helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition 
and double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to 
default to on.



HTH,

Richard, USA.

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t.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread bentleyj1952

Can I reorder these VO quick settings?  If so, how?

James B  

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James
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO settings, 
it will tell you.  I’ll tell you though. 

You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers.  A double 
magic tap., so to speak.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Then, how do you use Quick Settings? 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> William James
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
> the Rotor
> 
> If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down 
> to the end, you will see quick settings.  You will find Screen Recognition in 
> there.  Only a few things are selected at the outset.  Think of this as the 
> rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
> 
> 
>On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly  wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
>Mike:
> 
>Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am 
> running 16.02 on a SE 2020.
> 
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Re: Sharing: James Patterson - Blowback

2022-10-04 Thread William James

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Re: Any recommendations?

2022-10-04 Thread Cris Ali

Thanks Kelly,
I can understand your reservations. I thought about what you said but found the 
alternative very expensive.  Buying MagSafe wireless power banks  are very 
expensive. That is the only choice that does not tie you to a wall outlet as 
you charge your device.
Cheers,


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 10:07 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> I was unimpressed with the mag safe technology. The charging pad still
> needs to be plugged in so I can just plug in my iPhone once a day.
> Also, I wanted a leather case and mag safe chargers make noticeable
> marks in the leather case, destroying its elegance.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/4/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> You know, I bought it last fall when I got my 13 pro; and I was at the
>> Verizon store helping a friend sort out what she was going to upgrade to and
>> they had them on sale ... I think it came with the charger, but I cannot
>> swear to that as my friend bought it for me as a thank you for my help.  She
>> ended up getting a 12 pro and the same charger plus Airpods and the whole 9
>> yards.
>> I am pretty sure the price included the charger.
>> In any case, always ask before buying.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris
>> Ali
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 12:08 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any recommendations?
>> 
>> Thanks Richard,
>> Does the Apple MagSafe Wireless charger come with the 20 What adapter or one
>> has to order it separately?
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I bought the Magsafe wireless charger made by Apple.
>>> 
>>> I just have a very simple, clear, case.  No screen protector.  I think it
>>> was about $10.
>>> I've never damaged a screen on any iDevice since my iPod Touch 3rd Gen. in
>>> 2009.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the
>>> Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Cris Ali
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:45 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Any recommendations?
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I went ahead and ordered iPhone 14 Pro, which I expect to get in 3 weeks.
>>> Now I am thinking of buying two accessories for it. Here where I need your
>>> recommendations based on first hand experience.
>>> First, I need advice on getting asolid and powerful fast magsafe wireless
>>> charger.
>>> Second, i need advice on getting a good magsafe compatible protective
>>> case. I do not like the bulky type and I prefer the transparent ones.
>>> Any recommendations will be appreciated.
>>> Regards
>>> 
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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Chris Chaffin

Mike,

I can definitely say that Apple Accessibility was not correct.  I am running 
ios 15, and after turning on screen recognition and then going to quick 
settings found in Voiceover settings, screen recognition is a choice that you 
can have in your quick settings list.
Now, as you mentioned, I do not know if having an iPhone SE makes a difference 
or not.

Chris


> On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Mike B.  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Holly,
>  
> According to Apple Accessibility or, at least the person I talked to, if I 
> were to update to iOS16 that would solve the problem but, apparently not.  
> Maybe this only happens with certain model phones?  I would be curious to 
> find out what they would say to someone running iOS16 on an SE2020 phone.  
> Well, I'll wait and see what happens.  Thanks for the input.
>  
>  
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
> the Rotor
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>  
> Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am 
> running 16.02 on a SE 2020.
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Re: Any recommendations?

2022-10-04 Thread Kelly Pierce

I was unimpressed with the mag safe technology. The charging pad still
needs to be plugged in so I can just plug in my iPhone once a day.
Also, I wanted a leather case and mag safe chargers make noticeable
marks in the leather case, destroying its elegance.

Kelly





On 10/4/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> You know, I bought it last fall when I got my 13 pro; and I was at the
> Verizon store helping a friend sort out what she was going to upgrade to and
> they had them on sale ... I think it came with the charger, but I cannot
> swear to that as my friend bought it for me as a thank you for my help.  She
> ended up getting a 12 pro and the same charger plus Airpods and the whole 9
> yards.
> I am pretty sure the price included the charger.
> In any case, always ask before buying.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
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> Ali
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks Richard,
> Does the Apple MagSafe Wireless charger come with the 20 What adapter or one
> has to order it separately?
> Cheers,
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I bought the Magsafe wireless charger made by Apple.
>>
>> I just have a very simple, clear, case.  No screen protector.  I think it
>> was about $10.
>> I've never damaged a screen on any iDevice since my iPod Touch 3rd Gen. in
>> 2009.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the
>> Universe
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>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Any recommendations?
>>
>> Hi folks,
>> I went ahead and ordered iPhone 14 Pro, which I expect to get in 3 weeks.
>> Now I am thinking of buying two accessories for it. Here where I need your
>> recommendations based on first hand experience.
>> First, I need advice on getting asolid and powerful fast magsafe wireless
>> charger.
>> Second, i need advice on getting a good magsafe compatible protective
>> case. I do not like the bulky type and I prefer the transparent ones.
>> Any recommendations will be appreciated.
>> Regards
>>
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Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

2022-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked about 
until iOS 15.

 

To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under 
Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition.

If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings.

 

I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, it 
disappeared from Quick Settings.  

When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone 
before it showed up again in quick Settings.  Not sure why, but that is what I 
did.

 

My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings.  
There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings 
instead of in the Rotor.  

 

Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple tap. 
 It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional about 
bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate when you 
wanted to jump by headings, etc.

 

You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out it 
helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition and 
double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to default 
to on.

 

HTH,

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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

A 2 finger quadruple tap brings it up so you can adjust whatever settings you 
have in there.




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Then, how do you use Quick Settings? 

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the Rotor

If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down to 
the end, you will see quick settings.  You will find Screen Recognition in 
there.  Only a few things are selected at the outset.  Think of this as the 
rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max


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Mike:
 
Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I 
am running 16.02 on a SE 2020.



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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread William James

If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO settings, 
it will tell you.  I’ll tell you though. 

You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers.  A double 
magic tap., so to speak.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

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> Then, how do you use Quick Settings? 
> 
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> the Rotor
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> If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down 
> to the end, you will see quick settings.  You will find Screen Recognition in 
> there.  Only a few things are selected at the outset.  Think of this as the 
> rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
> 
> 
>On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly  wrote:
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> 
>Mike:
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>Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am 
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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Holly

Mike:

I solved the problem.  I remembered that I had screen recognition turned off in 
voice over recognition in the voice over settings.  Once I turned it on again, 
it appeared in the voice over quick settings.

  Check voice over recognition  and see if screen recognition is turned off or 
on.

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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Carolyn

Then, how do you use Quick Settings? 

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the Rotor

If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down to 
the end, you will see quick settings.  You will find Screen Recognition in 
there.  Only a few things are selected at the outset.  Think of this as the 
rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead.

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly  wrote:

Mike:

Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I 
am running 16.02 on a SE 2020.

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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Mike B.

Hi Holly,

According to Apple Accessibility or, at least the person I talked to, if I 
were to update to iOS16 that would solve the problem but, apparently not. 
Maybe this only happens with certain model phones?  I would be curious to 
find out what they would say to someone running iOS16 on an SE2020 phone. 
Well, I'll wait and see what happens.  Thanks for the input.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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not the Rotor


Mike:

Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am 
running 16.02 on a SE 2020.

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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread William James

If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down to the end, you will see quick settings.  You will find Screen Recognition in there.  Only a few things are selected at the outset.  Think of this as the rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly  wrote:



Mike:
 
Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am 
running 16.02 on a SE 2020.



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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread chrisjudge1967

Hi. Go to settings, accessibility, voice over. Near the bottom is an option for 
quick settings. You have to go in there and select the things you wish to 
appear in voice over quick settings. The process is similar to adding and 
removing things from the router, you can select, deselect and reorder things.

 

Chris Judge

  

 

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the Rotor

 

Mike:

 

Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am 
running 16.02 on a SE 2020.

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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Holly

Mike:

Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am 
running 16.02 on a SE 2020.

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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Mike B.

Hi Richard,

I listened to the podcast this morning but, he doesn't answer the question I 
was asking.  I've since talked to Apple Accessibility and I posted their 
answer earlier.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor


Well, I wish I knew.
Thomas Donnville does a podcast about it on AppleVis.com.
I do not remember having to add it to quick settings.
How to Configure and Use VoiceOver Quick Settings on iOS
scribd.com












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  On Oct 4, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  Hi Richard,

  I took Screen Recognition off the rotor but, how do I add it to Quick 
Settings?  It's not in Quick Settings to turn on.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 5:37 PM
  Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor


  After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition 
accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it 
in Quick Settings.

  The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.

  Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
accidentally turning on various settings will happen.

  This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it 
may be useful.

  To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting 
you want to enable and do a one finger double tap.



  HTH,

  Richard, USA.

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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

Mike, I went ahead and double checked Thomas Donnville's podcast. It was done on September 16, 2021.So unless he had a time machine, he was using iOS 15 and Screen Recognition was in his Quick settings choices.He did not say anything about adding things to the quick settings, at least not in the first 4 minutes or so. the whole thing is about 10 minutes long; so you may want to give it a listen.That or try Apple again and see if you get someone who actually knows what the hell they are talking about.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Oct 4, 2022, at 2:14 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, I wish I knew.Thomas Donnville does a podcast about it on AppleVis.com.I do not remember having to add it to quick settings.How to Configure and Use VoiceOver Quick Settings on iOSscribd.com



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Hi Richard,
 
I took Screen Recognition off the rotor but, how do I add 
it to Quick Settings?  It's not in Quick Settings to turn on.
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 5:37 PM
Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick 
Settings, not the Rotor


After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen 
recognition accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and 
put it in Quick Settings.
The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned 
on.
Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change 
what is focused, accidentally turning on various settings will 
happen.
This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will 
lessen the problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places 
where it may be useful.
To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  
Find the setting you want to enable and do a one finger double 
tap.
 
HTH,
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in the Universe
 
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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

Well, I wish I knew.Thomas Donnville does a podcast about it on AppleVis.com.I do not remember having to add it to quick settings.How to Configure and Use VoiceOver Quick Settings on iOSscribd.comRichard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Oct 4, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Mike B.  wrote:






Hi Richard,
 
I took Screen Recognition off the rotor but, how do I add 
it to Quick Settings?  It's not in Quick Settings to turn on.
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 5:37 PM
Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick 
Settings, not the Rotor


After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen 
recognition accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and 
put it in Quick Settings.
The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned 
on.
Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change 
what is focused, accidentally turning on various settings will 
happen.
This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will 
lessen the problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places 
where it may be useful.
To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  
Find the setting you want to enable and do a one finger double 
tap.
 
HTH,
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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Mike B.

Okay, I called Apple accessibility and they said that the Screen Recognition 
feature isn't showing in Voiceover / Quick Settings because I'm not running 
iOS16...

They didn't explain why or why not but, all they said was that it wouldn't 
as well as other features like Screen Recognition won't show in Voiceover / 
Quick Settings to ve selected or unselected until an individual has updated 
to iOS16..., it was an update feature that came along with iOS16.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor


Hi Richard,

I took Screen Recognition off the rotor but, how do I add it to Quick 
Settings?  It's not in Quick Settings to turn on.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 5:37 PM
Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor


After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition 
accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it 
in Quick Settings.

The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.

Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
accidentally turning on various settings will happen.

This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it 
may be useful.

To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting you 
want to enable and do a one finger double tap.



HTH,

Richard, USA.

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t.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



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Magnetic Anti Lost Strap for Apple Airpods - Siliconen Wireless Band

2022-10-04 Thread William Windels

hello, i bought airpods pro 2e generation and I want to hold both airpods 
together wit a strip.
I am not shure but are te strips for the airpods pro 1 gen also working on the 
2 gen of airpods pro?

if so, are there some good experiences with this streps? and which one?

Thx in advance
Mvg 
William windels
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

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Screen brightness.

2022-10-04 Thread Jenny Bomareto

I forgot to say I have the iPhone 8. 89% because I had to charge my phone.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Mike B.

Hi Richard,

I took Screen Recognition off the rotor but, how do I add it to Quick 
Settings?  It's not in Quick Settings to turn on.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 5:37 PM
Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor


After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition 
accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it 
in Quick Settings.

The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.

Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
accidentally turning on various settings will happen.

This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it 
may be useful.

To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting you 
want to enable and do a one finger double tap.



HTH,

Richard, USA.

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t.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



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RE: Any recommendations?

2022-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

You know, I bought it last fall when I got my 13 pro; and I was at the Verizon 
store helping a friend sort out what she was going to upgrade to and they had 
them on sale ... I think it came with the charger, but I cannot swear to that 
as my friend bought it for me as a thank you for my help.  She ended up getting 
a 12 pro and the same charger plus Airpods and the whole 9 yards.
I am pretty sure the price included the charger.
In any case, always ask before buying.





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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any recommendations?

Thanks Richard,
Does the Apple MagSafe Wireless charger come with the 20 What adapter or one 
has to order it separately?
Cheers,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I bought the Magsafe wireless charger made by Apple.
> 
> I just have a very simple, clear, case.  No screen protector.  I think it was 
> about $10.
> I've never damaged a screen on any iDevice since my iPod Touch 3rd Gen. in 
> 2009.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Any recommendations?
> 
> Hi folks,
> I went ahead and ordered iPhone 14 Pro, which I expect to get in 3 weeks. Now 
> I am thinking of buying two accessories for it. Here where I need your 
> recommendations based on first hand experience.
> First, I need advice on getting asolid and powerful fast magsafe wireless 
> charger.
> Second, i need advice on getting a good magsafe compatible protective case. I 
> do not like the bulky type and I prefer the transparent ones.
> Any recommendations will be appreciated.
> Regards
> 
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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Barbara Stahl

My phone has done that when reading emails for what seems like forever.  I 
don't know if i've ever had it behave any differently with email.  

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 12:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I am not richard, but here is an example of what he is talking about I 
> believe. Open a Mail message. Set your rotor to read by word, or character, 
> or line, it doesn’t really matter. Flick down to read a couple of words or 
> whatever. Then flick once to the right. The next time you flick down, your 
> rotor will have changed and you will be sent to the bottom where you have 
> your choice to trash the message or whatever. In my case, every time it says 
> trash. So the rotor is switching just because I make a flick to the right 
> without changing anything. I’m sure there are others, but this one is easy to 
> duplicate.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>>  
>> I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the 
>> rotor where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever 
>> happening to me unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular 
>> rotor item like screen recognition at which point of course a flick up or 
>> down will toggle this on or off. Can you give specific examples about this?
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
>> the Rotor
>>  
>> After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition 
>> accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it 
>> in Quick Settings.
>> The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.
>> Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
>> accidentally turning on various settings will happen.
>> This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
>> problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it 
>> may be useful.
>> To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting you 
>> want to enable and do a one finger double tap.
>>  
>> HTH,
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Re: Any recommendations?

2022-10-04 Thread Cris Ali

Thanks Richard,
Does the Apple MagSafe Wireless charger come with the 20 What adapter or one 
has to order it separately?
Cheers,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I bought the Magsafe wireless charger made by Apple.
> 
> I just have a very simple, clear, case.  No screen protector.  I think it was 
> about $10.
> I've never damaged a screen on any iDevice since my iPod Touch 3rd Gen. in 
> 2009.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
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> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Any recommendations?
> 
> Hi folks,
> I went ahead and ordered iPhone 14 Pro, which I expect to get in 3 weeks. Now 
> I am thinking of buying two accessories for it. Here where I need your 
> recommendations based on first hand experience.
> First, I need advice on getting asolid and powerful fast magsafe wireless 
> charger.
> Second, i need advice on getting a good magsafe compatible protective case. I 
> do not like the bulky type and I prefer the transparent ones.
> Any recommendations will be appreciated.
> Regards
> 
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RE: Any recommendations?

2022-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

I bought the Magsafe wireless charger made by Apple.

I just have a very simple, clear, case.  No screen protector.  I think it was 
about $10.
I've never damaged a screen on any iDevice since my iPod Touch 3rd Gen. in 2009.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any recommendations?

Hi folks,
I went ahead and ordered iPhone 14 Pro, which I expect to get in 3 weeks. Now I 
am thinking of buying two accessories for it. Here where I need your 
recommendations based on first hand experience.
First, I need advice on getting asolid and powerful fast magsafe wireless 
charger.
Second, i need advice on getting a good magsafe compatible protective case. I 
do not like the bulky type and I prefer the transparent ones.
Any recommendations will be appreciated.
Regards

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Re: BARD Mobil

2022-10-04 Thread Tim

hi i been having this someone time with log in to bard for some time
and support wasn't any help. and i'm using a iPhone 12 pro.

On 10/4/22, martin nelson  wrote:
> Hi; I turned off screen recognition but I still can’t log in to bard
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2022 7:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: BARD Mobil
>
> Make sure screen recognition is off.
> It completely messes the app up.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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>
>
> On Oct 1, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> I'm using a Se 2020 & I had no trouble logging into Bard. I was presented
> with the agreement screen, the user name/password screen in which I didn't
> find a login button, so using the on screen keyboard I tapped on Return,
> which took me to the search page of Bard.
>
> Donna
>
>
>
> Is anyone else having trouble getting into the app using an SE? I have a
> gen 2 and a friend has a gen 3, and neither of us can get into the app.  I
> get an agreement screen, and then a log-in screen.  When I enter my
> credentials, I'm taken to a place that wants me to save my info, but when I
> enter my info again, I don't see a done or save button.
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Any recommendations?

2022-10-04 Thread Cris Ali

Hi folks,
I went ahead and ordered iPhone 14 Pro, which I expect to get in 3 weeks. Now I 
am thinking of buying two accessories for it. Here where I need your 
recommendations based on first hand experience.
First, I need advice on getting asolid and powerful fast magsafe wireless 
charger.
Second, i need advice on getting a good magsafe compatible protective case. I 
do not like the bulky type and I prefer the transparent ones.
Any recommendations will be appreciated.
Regards

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Screen brightness.

2022-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Ah, yes, I did mean LCD. Sorry about that. You're right, brightness will impact 
battery life when using an LCD display. I should have said that a dark screen 
or VoiceOver's screen curtain wouldn't impact battery life on an older iPhone, 
but brightness would.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen brightness.

Hi Christopher,

You probably meant to say "with LCD displays" since as far as I know iPhones 
went from LCD to OLED, I am not aware there was ever an iPhone with a regular 
LED display.
Also, it apparently does make a difference with LCD screen iPhones how bright 
your screen is because as you say the brightness of an LCD screen is determined 
by the amount of backlighting and if you were to set it manually to be 100% 
then I do believe you may in fact notice a difference as opposed to having it 
set to 0%.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen brightness.

With LED displays, setting the screen to dark or changing it's brightness won't 
impact the battery since they're backlit. With OLED displays it should take 
less energy to power a dark display, but I haven't looked for any benchmarks on 
this.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen brightness.

Am I remembering someone on here says that it Hass to be set to dark so the 
battery doesn't drain as fast and I do have it set to 0% for some reason it was 
on light so I had to switch it back over again too dark. And I also the phone 
set to lock after 30 seconds.
Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

If I am  in the open message, and turn the rotor to words and flick down, it 
reads word by word until I do another gesture.

 

 

 

 

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mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

 

Hi I tried marry’s example and when I turne the roader to words and flicked 
down with one finger it brought me right to trash it didn’t read the message at 
all. So this is a bug? From Mich.

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: October 4, 2022 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

 

Mary, you nailed it.

I should have given that example.

Well done.

 

 

 

 

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Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

 

I am not richard, but here is an example of what he is talking about I believe. 
Open a Mail message. Set your rotor to read by word, or character, or line, it 
doesn’t really matter. Flick down to read a couple of words or whatever. Then 
flick once to the right. The next time you flick down, your rotor will have 
changed and you will be sent to the bottom where you have your choice to trash 
the message or whatever. In my case, every time it says trash. So the rotor is 
switching just because I make a flick to the right without changing anything. 
I’m sure there are others, but this one is easy to duplicate.

Mary

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

 

I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the rotor 
where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever happening to me 
unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular rotor item like screen 
recognition at which point of course a flick up or down will toggle this on or 
off. Can you give specific examples about this?

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the 
Rotor

 

After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally 
getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick 
Settings.

The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.

Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
accidentally turning on various settings will happen.

This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may 
be useful.

To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting you 
want to enable and do a one finger double tap.

 

HTH,

Richard, USA.

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread michv

Hi I tried marry’s example and when I turne the roader to words and flicked 
down with one finger it brought me right to trash it didn’t read the message at 
all. So this is a bug? From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 4, 2022 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

Mary, you nailed it.

I should have given that example.

Well done.

Richard, USA.

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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

I am not richard, but here is an example of what he is talking about I believe. 
Open a Mail message. Set your rotor to read by word, or character, or line, it 
doesn’t really matter. Flick down to read a couple of words or whatever. Then 
flick once to the right. The next time you flick down, your rotor will have 
changed and you will be sent to the bottom where you have your choice to trash 
the message or whatever. In my case, every time it says trash. So the rotor is 
switching just because I make a flick to the right without changing anything. 
I’m sure there are others, but this one is easy to duplicate.

Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Hi Richard,

I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the rotor 
where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever happening to me 
unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular rotor item like screen 
recognition at which point of course a flick up or down will toggle this on or 
off. Can you give specific examples about this?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the 
Rotor

After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally 
getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick 
Settings.

The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.

Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
accidentally turning on various settings will happen.

This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may 
be useful.

To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting you 
want to enable and do a one finger double tap.

HTH,

Richard, USA.

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

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RE: BARD Mobil

2022-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

IN that case, you likely need to contact your regional library.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of martin 
nelson
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BARD Mobil

 

Hi; I turned off screen recognition but I still can’t log in to bard

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows

 

From: Richard Turner  
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2022 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: BARD Mobil

 

Make sure screen recognition is off.

It completely messes the app up.

 

 

 

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

On Oct 1, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Donna Casteen mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I'm using a Se 2020 & I had no trouble logging into Bard. I was presented with 
the agreement screen, the user name/password screen in which I didn't find a 
login button, so using the on screen keyboard I tapped on Return, which took me 
to the search page of Bard.

Donna



 

Is anyone else having trouble getting into the app using an SE? I have a gen 2 
and a friend has a gen 3, and neither of us can get into the app.  I get an 
agreement screen, and then a log-in screen.  When I enter my credentials, I'm 
taken to a place that wants me to save my info, but when I enter my info again, 
I don't see a done or save button.

 

 

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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

Mary, you nailed it.

I should have given that example.

Well done.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

 

I am not richard, but here is an example of what he is talking about I believe. 
Open a Mail message. Set your rotor to read by word, or character, or line, it 
doesn’t really matter. Flick down to read a couple of words or whatever. Then 
flick once to the right. The next time you flick down, your rotor will have 
changed and you will be sent to the bottom where you have your choice to trash 
the message or whatever. In my case, every time it says trash. So the rotor is 
switching just because I make a flick to the right without changing anything. 
I’m sure there are others, but this one is easy to duplicate.

Mary

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

 

I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the rotor 
where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever happening to me 
unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular rotor item like screen 
recognition at which point of course a flick up or down will toggle this on or 
off. Can you give specific examples about this?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the 
Rotor

 

After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally 
getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick 
Settings.

The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.

Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
accidentally turning on various settings will happen.

This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may 
be useful.

To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting you 
want to enable and do a one finger double tap.

 

HTH,

Richard, USA.

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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RE: BARD Mobil

2022-10-04 Thread martin nelson

Hi; I turned off screen recognition but I still can’t log in to bard

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2022 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD Mobil

Make sure screen recognition is off.
It completely messes the app up.

Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com

On Oct 1, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
I'm using a Se 2020 & I had no trouble logging into Bard. I was presented with 
the agreement screen, the user name/password screen in which I didn't find a 
login button, so using the on screen keyboard I tapped on Return, which took me 
to the search page of Bard.

Donna

Is anyone else having trouble getting into the app using an SE? I have a gen 2 
and a friend has a gen 3, and neither of us can get into the app.  I get an 
agreement screen, and then a log-in screen.  When I enter my credentials, I'm 
taken to a place that wants me to save my info, but when I enter my info again, 
I don't see a done or save button.

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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread Mary Otten

I am not richard, but here is an example of what he is talking about I believe. 
Open a Mail message. Set your rotor to read by word, or character, or line, it 
doesn’t really matter. Flick down to read a couple of words or whatever. Then 
flick once to the right. The next time you flick down, your rotor will have 
changed and you will be sent to the bottom where you have your choice to trash 
the message or whatever. In my case, every time it says trash. So the rotor is 
switching just because I make a flick to the right without changing anything. 
I’m sure there are others, but this one is easy to duplicate.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
>  
> I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the 
> rotor where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever happening 
> to me unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular rotor item like 
> screen recognition at which point of course a flick up or down will toggle 
> this on or off. Can you give specific examples about this?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the 
> Rotor
>  
> After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition 
> accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it 
> in Quick Settings.
> The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.
> Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
> accidentally turning on various settings will happen.
> This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
> problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it 
> may be useful.
> To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting you 
> want to enable and do a one finger double tap.
>  
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RE: Screen brightness.

2022-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

I have no issues with Bluetooth draining my battery.

I get through an entire day and sometimes a bit longer with my 13 pro and I use 
it a lot and Bluetooth is never off.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen brightness.

 

Notwithstanding The brightness issue, I find as you probably also do that when 
Bluetooth  is on, it zaps the battery like nobody's business. I wish there was 
a way to see Second The condition of Bluetooth on the status bar. All the best,

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

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On Oct 4, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I don't think you will notice a huge difference whether you have it set to dark 
mode or light mode. If you have a phone with OLED screen there might be a very 
small difference since apparently dark pixels use up less power, but it would 
be quite minimal. Of course you may as well set it to dark mode.

 

As for screen brightness I would recommend you set it to auto and then if you 
want to make the most of it you can turn on screen curtain by tapping 3 times 
with 3 fingers.

As soon as iOS detects that screen curtain is on brightness will be 
automatically set to 0%, but if you ever need help with the phone then as soon 
as you turn off screen curtain with a 3-finger triple tap the screen brightness 
will be at a level which should make it easy for a sighted person to see it.

You can of course also turn off Voiceover which will then automatically remove 
the screen curtain since that is a Voiceover feature so if Voiceover is not 
running screen curtain is also not there to black out the screen.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jenny Bomareto
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Screen brightness.

 

Am I remembering someone on here says that it Hass to be set to dark so the 
battery doesn’t drain as fast and I do have it set to 0% for some reason it was 
on light so I had to switch it back over again too dark. And I also the phone 
set to lock after 30 seconds.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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SE 2020

2022-10-04 Thread deidreandlouise

Hello all

There is another thing happening on my SE 2020 since the first 16 update. I
did write up a list and send it on to Apple Assessibility and just got
disconnected while waiting on hold to talk to them about what I will
describe below.

   Siri is not responding to my normal tone of voice. I have to
literally yell at the phone (and my echo device) to get her to acknowledge I
have spoken. I know to wait to hear the bonk sound, for lack of a better
term, and either way I wind up having to repeat my request twice, and you
all know how much I like doing that! 

   Is there some setting to mark the sensitivity of the
recognition? I don't mean speech recognition, just regular dictated speech,
once again most of the problems are when I try to use Siri from the home
screen, and I am not within an app. I guess if this persists I will simply
get trained to always do dictation within an edit field in a specific App.

 

   Another broken thing: 

   If I say go to mail settings or settings for mail, I will
never be taken to those specific settings. This was not the case with
previous IOS versions.

   And, why is "mentions" in my roter? I did not put it there
and see nothing about it in the roter settings.

btw, what bugs did 16.2 fix?

 

   Deidre

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RE: Screen brightness.

2022-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Actually I have Bluetooth on all the time because I have an Apple Watch and 
also because I find it inconvenient to turn it on each time I want to use a 
Bluetooth headset or speaker or maybe my keyboard. It may depend a bit on what 
type of Bluetooth device you have connected, but for the most part Bluetooth 
being on should only use up a very small amount of extra power.
By now my iPhone 11 which I have had for 2 years is down to 85% battery 
capacity, but if my phone is fully charged in the morning I still easily get 
through the day and I use my phone quite a bit. Maybe if I had to use a GPS app 
for a couple of hours each day I would have problems getting all the way to 9 
or 10 PM, but I honestly couldn't care less if my battery in the evening is 
still at 40% or at 20% or 15% because I have a smart phone because I want its 
convenience features and this includes having Bluetooth  and Wi-Fi on, it means 
having location services turned on for most apps and also to use background app 
refresh at least for some of the apps I use a lot. It also means that I set my 
two email accounts to Push which definitely takes up more battery than if I 
checked them only once an hour or manually, in fact it probably uses up more 
power than having Bluetooth on does.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen brightness.

Notwithstanding The brightness issue, I find as you probably also do that when 
Bluetooth  is on, it zaps the battery like nobody's business. I wish there was 
a way to see Second The condition of Bluetooth on the status bar. All the best,
Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349

thegototherapist.com


On Oct 4, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I don't think you will notice a huge difference whether you have it set to dark 
mode or light mode. If you have a phone with OLED screen there might be a very 
small difference since apparently dark pixels use up less power, but it would 
be quite minimal. Of course you may as well set it to dark mode.

As for screen brightness I would recommend you set it to auto and then if you 
want to make the most of it you can turn on screen curtain by tapping 3 times 
with 3 fingers.
As soon as iOS detects that screen curtain is on brightness will be 
automatically set to 0%, but if you ever need help with the phone then as soon 
as you turn off screen curtain with a 3-finger triple tap the screen brightness 
will be at a level which should make it easy for a sighted person to see it.
You can of course also turn off Voiceover which will then automatically remove 
the screen curtain since that is a Voiceover feature so if Voiceover is not 
running screen curtain is also not there to black out the screen.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen brightness.

Am I remembering someone on here says that it Hass to be set to dark so the 
battery doesn’t drain as fast and I do have it set to 0% for some reason it was 
on light so I had to switch it back over again too dark. And I also the phone 
set to lock after 30 seconds.
Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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RE: Screen brightness.

2022-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Hi Richard,

I think your statement that battery life goes down "much faster" without screen 
curtain is relative. I highly doubt you could show that say in a two hour time 
period it would go down by 6% without screen curtain and only by 4% with screen 
curtain. You also would have to replicate exactly the same conditions, say you 
turn on airplane mode so nothing else may use more power during one test as 
opposed to the other test, then maybe play a downloaded movie of about a 2 hour 
length on your iPhone, first with screen curtain turned off and then with 
screen curtain on. I would also make sure the phone is fully charged to 100% 
before you start and then see what your percentage is after the 2-hour movie 
for both scenarios.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen brightness.

Well, my experience is that if I set my phone to use auto brightness under 
settings, accessibility, display and text size; and use the screen curtain, the 
brightness is always at zero unless I turn off the screen curtain.
I seem to get better battery life than many, and I notice the battery life 
going down when my screen curtain is off for an extended time.  Often because 
my wife wanted to see something on my phone and I forgot to turn the screen 
curtain back on.
During those times, the battery drain is much faster than when I have the 
screen curtain on and using the phone the same way.

Can I prove it? no. Can anyone convince me it doesn’t make a difference having 
the screen brightness at zero when using the screen curtain? No.




Richard, USA.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen brightness.

With LED displays, setting the screen to dark or changing it’s brightness won’t 
impact the battery since they’re backlit. With OLED displays it should take 
less energy to power a dark display, but I haven’t looked for any benchmarks on 
this.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen brightness.

Am I remembering someone on here says that it Hass to be set to dark so the 
battery doesn’t drain as fast and I do have it set to 0% for some reason it was 
on light so I had to switch it back over again too dark. And I also the phone 
set to lock after 30 seconds.
Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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Re: Screen brightness.

2022-10-04 Thread chaim biberfeld

Notwithstanding The brightness issue, I find as you probably also do that when 
Bluetooth  is on, it zaps the battery like nobody's business. I wish there was 
a way to see Second The condition of Bluetooth on the status bar. All the best,

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349

thegototherapist.com 

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't think you will notice a huge difference whether you have it set to 
> dark mode or light mode. If you have a phone with OLED screen there might be 
> a very small difference since apparently dark pixels use up less power, but 
> it would be quite minimal. Of course you may as well set it to dark mode.
>  
> As for screen brightness I would recommend you set it to auto and then if you 
> want to make the most of it you can turn on screen curtain by tapping 3 times 
> with 3 fingers.
> As soon as iOS detects that screen curtain is on brightness will be 
> automatically set to 0%, but if you ever need help with the phone then as 
> soon as you turn off screen curtain with a 3-finger triple tap the screen 
> brightness will be at a level which should make it easy for a sighted person 
> to see it.
> You can of course also turn off Voiceover which will then automatically 
> remove the screen curtain since that is a Voiceover feature so if Voiceover 
> is not running screen curtain is also not there to black out the screen.
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
> Bomareto
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 4:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Screen brightness.
>  
> Am I remembering someone on here says that it Hass to be set to dark so the 
> battery doesn’t drain as fast and I do have it set to 0% for some reason it 
> was on light so I had to switch it back over again too dark. And I also the 
> phone set to lock after 30 seconds.
> 
> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
> Jenny Bomareto
> 
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RE: Screen brightness.

2022-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Hi Christopher,

You probably meant to say "with LCD displays" since as far as I know iPhones 
went from LCD to OLED, I am not aware there was ever an iPhone with a regular 
LED display.
Also, it apparently does make a difference with LCD screen iPhones how bright 
your screen is because as you say the brightness of an LCD screen is determined 
by the amount of backlighting and if you were to set it manually to be 100% 
then I do believe you may in fact notice a difference as opposed to having it 
set to 0%.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen brightness.

With LED displays, setting the screen to dark or changing it’s brightness won’t 
impact the battery since they’re backlit. With OLED displays it should take 
less energy to power a dark display, but I haven’t looked for any benchmarks on 
this.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen brightness.

Am I remembering someone on here says that it Hass to be set to dark so the 
battery doesn’t drain as fast and I do have it set to 0% for some reason it was 
on light so I had to switch it back over again too dark. And I also the phone 
set to lock after 30 seconds.
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RE: Screen brightness.

2022-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

I don't think you will notice a huge difference whether you have it set to dark 
mode or light mode. If you have a phone with OLED screen there might be a very 
small difference since apparently dark pixels use up less power, but it would 
be quite minimal. Of course you may as well set it to dark mode.

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as you turn off screen curtain with a 3-finger triple tap the screen brightness 
will be at a level which should make it easy for a sighted person to see it.
You can of course also turn off Voiceover which will then automatically remove 
the screen curtain since that is a Voiceover feature so if Voiceover is not 
running screen curtain is also not there to black out the screen.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen brightness.

Am I remembering someone on here says that it Hass to be set to dark so the 
battery doesn’t drain as fast and I do have it set to 0% for some reason it was 
on light so I had to switch it back over again too dark. And I also the phone 
set to lock after 30 seconds.
Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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RE: Screen brightness.

2022-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

Well, my experience is that if I set my phone to use auto brightness under 
settings, accessibility, display and text size; and use the screen curtain, the 
brightness is always at zero unless I turn off the screen curtain.

I seem to get better battery life than many, and I notice the battery life 
going down when my screen curtain is off for an extended time.  Often because 
my wife wanted to see something on my phone and I forgot to turn the screen 
curtain back on.

During those times, the battery drain is much faster than when I have the 
screen curtain on and using the phone the same way.

 

Can I prove it? no. Can anyone convince me it doesn’t make a difference having 
the screen brightness at zero when using the screen curtain? No.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen brightness.

 

With LED displays, setting the screen to dark or changing it’s brightness won’t 
impact the battery since they’re backlit. With OLED displays it should take 
less energy to power a dark display, but I haven’t looked for any benchmarks on 
this.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jenny Bomareto
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Screen brightness.

 

Am I remembering someone on here says that it Hass to be set to dark so the 
battery doesn’t drain as fast and I do have it set to 0% for some reason it was 
on light so I had to switch it back over again too dark. And I also the phone 
set to lock after 30 seconds.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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RE: Screen brightness.

2022-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain

With LED displays, setting the screen to dark or changing it's brightness won't 
impact the battery since they're backlit. With OLED displays it should take 
less energy to power a dark display, but I haven't looked for any benchmarks on 
this.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:17 AM
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Subject: Screen brightness.

Am I remembering someone on here says that it Hass to be set to dark so the 
battery doesn't drain as fast and I do have it set to 0% for some reason it was 
on light so I had to switch it back over again too dark. And I also the phone 
set to lock after 30 seconds.
Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
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Screen brightness.

2022-10-04 Thread Jenny Bomareto

Am I remembering someone on here says that it Hass to be set to dark so the 
battery doesn’t drain as fast and I do have it set to 0% for some reason it was 
on light so I had to switch it back over again too dark. And I also the phone 
set to lock after 30 seconds.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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Keyboards for sale, great condition!

2022-10-04 Thread Kliph

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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

2022-10-04 Thread chrisjudge1967

I keep all my voice over settings under voice over quick settings now. I have 
taken all that stuff out of the router.

 

Chris Judge

  

 

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Sent: October 3, 2022 9:38 PM
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Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the 
Rotor

 

After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally 
getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick 
Settings.

The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.

Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
accidentally turning on various settings will happen.

This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may 
be useful.

To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting you 
want to enable and do a one finger double tap.

 

HTH,

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