Re: Generating email addresses for Apps

[N]

Hi,
thanks I have seen this on a website but not in the App I am trying to create 
an account fore.
Max.

> On 11 Jul 2023, at 21:20, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I’m not sure I have always seen this available, but if you click on the enter 
> e-mail address field then you should find a list of auto-fill choices just 
> above the touch keyboard and one of these should be to create a random 
> address.
> 
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2023, at 6:53 PM, N  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> I have just subscribed to iCloud + to gain some extra storage and generate 
>> email addresses when signing up to web sites that I may not wish to receive 
>> mail from.
>> I have found how to do this Ok but I can not get it to work when signing up 
>> to Apps that I am not prepared to give my regular address too.
>> Can anybody please tell me how to do this?
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Max.
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Re: Strange letter showing in may address

[N]

His, thanks for the reply I am using Apple Mail on a Mac.
Max.

> On 11 Jul 2023, at 09:08, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> This appears to be where your full name should be. Every user agent does this 
> a little differently, are you using Apple‘s mail app? And if so, on the Mac 
> or on an iPad or on an iPhone?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2023, at 6:58 PM, N  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again,
>> I have only just noticed in my email address there is a letter N showing up 
>> just before agent0...@internode.on.net.
>> Can anybody please tell me how to remove this? I can edit the address but 
>> there is still the letter.
>> Thanks again.
>> Max.
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Strange letter showing in may address

[N]

Hi again,
I have only just noticed in my email address there is a letter N showing up 
just before agent0...@internode.on.net.
Can anybody please tell me how to remove this? I can edit the address but there 
is still the letter.
Thanks again.
Max.

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Generating email addresses for Apps

[N]

Hi all, 
I have just subscribed to iCloud + to gain some extra storage and generate 
email addresses when signing up to web sites that I may not wish to receive 
mail from.
I have found how to do this Ok but I can not get it to work when signing up to 
Apps that I am not prepared to give my regular address too.
Can anybody please tell me how to do this?
Thanks for any advice.
Max.

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Re: Pit boss grilling app

[N]

Hi,
the ones I have tried you must be in the App.
Max.

> On 26 Apr 2023, at 05:16, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> Let me ask, with any of these Bluetooth thermometers, is or can the 
> temperature readings  be announced in the background or do you have to be in 
> the app itself in order to get access to the thermometer probe feedback?
> I roast my own coffee and currently use a talking thermometer which works, 
> but is kind of a janky setup. I already use the stopwatch  app on my phone to 
> time the roast. Thus my interest in something that doesn’t require its app to 
> be open in order to get that feedback.
> Cristóbal
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> William James
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 12:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Pit boss grilling app
>  
> I use the Weber Smart Connect Hub.  You get an ambient probe for measuring 
> your grill’s temperature and a meat probe.  I have a spare one from an iGrill 
> I got a few years ago.  I also use a Weber Kettle 22 inch.  I’ve smoked 
> plenty of ribs, chicken, pork butts, and other meats on there.  Oh yeah, and 
> plenty of beer and tunes!
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
> 
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:21 AM, joseph hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris, I found the messaging question that you had brought up. I didn't 
>> find a come pleat thread. But here I believe is the message that you are 
>> speaking of. And I believe that these archives are public. So you don't have 
>> to be a member to read them.
>>  
>> Re: Smoker 
>> 
>> groups.io 
>> 
>>
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2023, at 4:14 PM, >> > >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> I recall about a year ago we had a discussion about smokers on the blind 
>>> handyman list. I can’t remember the exact issue but I seem to remember a 
>>> user having issues with the app, and when they called pit boss customer 
>>> support the support was so atrocious that they ended up returning the pit 
>>> boss grill and getting a Treger. I yeard the treger app was ok but I 
>>> haven’t used it personally.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> >> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2023 5:08 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: Pit boss grilling app
>>>  
>>> Hello Kayla,
>>>  
>>> I was going to tell you that Pit Boss uses the same app as Louisiana Grills 
>>> and that app is called "Smoke It". You may or may not know that both Pit 
>>> Boss and Louisiana Grill are brands owned by the same company, Danson LLC.
>>> I sell Louisiana Grill at my retail store and personally own a Founders 
>>> Series 1200 and the app can be used, but it's not great and I had to have 
>>> sighted help at first because sometimes Voiceover reads stuff in the app 
>>> which visually is not there so you sort of have to know what you can tap 
>>> and how to use it.
>>> I was told by my Canadian distributor of Louisiana Grill that apparently 
>>> the company is working on a new app, but that was last year and I haven't 
>>> heard anything further. I live in Northwestern British Columbia and our 
>>> winter is a full 5 months from November through March and while a few 
>>> people use their wood pellet grills throughout the year, the main season 
>>> for this sort of stuff up here is definitely from mid or late April (around 
>>> now basically) to the middle or end of October. There is a lot of salmon 
>>> fishing here so September and October are big month for people smoking 
>>> their fish.
>>>  
>>> Now, I just opened my Smoke It app for the first time this year and 
>>> immediately received a pop-up message that Pit Boss now has their own app 
>>> and typing "Pit boss" into the search field of the App Store did find it 
>>> easily enough. What is not at all clear is whether this new Pit Boss app is 
>>> supposed to work also with the Louisiana Grill products or not and calling 
>>> their customer service line today wasn't much use as they are not open on 
>>> Sundays. I will, however, call them tomorrow to find out because both Smoke 
>>> It as well as the newer 

Re: Pit boss grilling app

[N]

Hi,
I use the PitBoss grill with the Weber iGril App to measure the temp of the 
meat with Two probes. I have found the Smoakit App useless. I have a third 
probe that is an ambient probe that also plugs in the iGrill. I don’t need to 
use an app to control the Pitbos as you turn the knob click by click to turn up 
or down the temp. I have brailled a list of all the temps.  So Two clicks to 
the right is 95c 4 clicks is 120 etc.
Have fun if you buy one. 
Max.
PS make sure you get silicon gloves and some cotton gloves to wear inside the 
silicon ones. I find the big thick gloves  have not much feel when grabbing 
meat.


> On 23 Apr 2023, at 23:38, Kayla King  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> My fiancé and I are thinking of buying a pit boss smoker. Has anyone had any 
> success using the pit boss grill app on their iPhone?
> Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
> 
> Live every day like it’s your last, because you never know when your last day 
> will come! Sent from my iPhone 14 Pro
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Re: How to stop camera going to live photo

[N]

Hi,
thanks for this I will give it a go.
Max.

> On 22 Apr 2023, at 09:26, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> First, under settings, Camera, Formats, make sure Most Compatible
> 
> 
> is selected. Then, under settings, camera, preserve settings, live photo is 
> off. 
> Then, when in the camera app, make sure live photo says off.  
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Apr 21, 2023, at 3:43 PM, N  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> the subject field is the question.
>> Every time my wife wishes to take a photo the camera goes to live photo. She 
>> does want all photos saved as .JPG. I have set the settings that I thought 
>> the camera would always save in this format, but no such luck.
>> Can anybody tell me what settings to change for this to happen?
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Max.
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How to stop camera going to live photo

[N]

Hi all,
the subject field is the question.
Every time my wife wishes to take a photo the camera goes to live photo. She 
does want all photos saved as .JPG. I have set the settings that I thought the 
camera would always save in this format, but no such luck.
Can anybody tell me what settings to change for this to happen?
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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Re: Is Anyone Using the Google Authenticator? or the Microsoft Authenticator?

[N]

Hi,
I have been using the Google orthenticator  for years on my iPhone with no 
problems.
Max.

> On 16 Apr 2023, at 03:46, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Is anyone using either the Google or Microsoft authenticator app?  If so, is
> either VO accessible?  If you are using both, which do you prefer?
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Urgent Hiring Requirements-Immediate Interviews

[poornima N]

*Hi Everyone,*

*Hope you are doing great.*

 I am Poornima working with *Spire Global Solutions*
 Inc.

Please go through the job description and if any suitable candidates please
share updated resumes to  poorn...@spireglobalsolutions.com

Urgent Hiring of 5G Modem Functional Testing/Software test engineer (Lab
work) at Mountain view, CA

Open for both Lab and Field testing (need basis)

Position : 5G Modem Testing

Location: Mountain View, CA

Duration: Long term project

Experience Range: 2 – 9 yrs

Job Type – 100% onsite office



High Level Responsibilities:

·  Need to travel based on the client prefer  on site NJ, Dallas or Seattle
support in the carrier labs  during Interoperability tests (IOT) and
certification period for troubleshooting and first triage on the failures
reported during onsite or after

·  Responsible for in-house lab/field testing for verifying the software
functionality and quality.

·  Responsibility for rolling out TE/ test Infrastructure issue.

·  Responsibility for spotting  the potential problematic area  in UE(
telephony /Modem subsystem ) might be  by providing useful information to
Dev team for reporting  issues .

·  Responsibility for compiling  daily progress report to stakeholders.

·  Responsibility for summarizing & providing  high level to technical
details reports to across function stakeholders.

·  Responsibility for tracking, and following up software issues from
carrier labs.   ( ownership)



Desired Skills/Experience:

·   Familiar with modem stacks and NA first tier carrier
certifications  and interoperability tests .

·   Familiar with 3GPP LTE, 5GNR (NSA/SA) standards

·   Familiar with modem stack  logging and analyzing  tools  (e.g. QXDM
and ShannonDM tool)

·   Experiences on Android Debug Bridge (ADB) and CLI tool

·   Ability organized, knowledgeable and able to multitask

·   Strong ownership

·   Outstanding team player.

·   Skillful project management

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Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

[Marie N]

Not sure what this has to do with Voicemail not working?


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

YouMail is primarily available in the US and apparently it is available in 
Canada if you are with one of the big 3 providers, Telus, Bell or Rogers.
When you do a search on Google for "Is Youmail available outside the United 
States", you get the following:


Aug. 3, 2021 — YouMail supports AT, Verizon Wireless, Sprint and T-Mobile, 
as well as many other U.S.  carriers


On their website there is a place where you can enter  your mobile number 
and it says they will then text you a link to download the app, but when I 
did I was told my number was not in service or something like that. My 
provider in Canada is Koodo which is owned by Telus, it's a bit cheaper, but 
it apparently does not support this. One other complaint I have with Koodo 
is that even though it's owned by Telus and runs on the same network there 
still is no support for adding a cellular Apple Watch to your plan. 
Otherwise I am quite happy with the service, I pay $50 a month and get 
unlimited Canada-wide calling and texting, basic voice mail and 9 Gb of 
data. But plans are always changing and if at some point Telus has a good 
offer or promo I may change back because I'd gladly pay $10/month to add my 
Apple Watch so I'm able t take calls in situations when I don't have or want 
to bring my iPhone.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback

Sent: August 15, 2021 5:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?
Importance: High

can't seem to find that app, are you sure it is available in the UK?

Simon


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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?



I'd try calling apple accessibility.  Also, try an app called you mail
which is a lot better then the phone's regular voice mail.

On 8/10/21, goshawk on horseback 
wrote:

hello all,
is anyone else having trouble with the phone's voicemail tab since the
latest IOS update?
as I am, on both of my iPhones.
if I select the voicemail tab, the screen all but stops responding, and
all
I can get to speak are the top of screen status bar items. if I do the
home
gesture, that works, and things start working, until I go back in to the
phone app, when the same thing happens before the phone app stops working
and the phone goes back to the home screen, so can only assume that the
phone app crashed or something.
they are both iPhone x, and have tried this at least 3 times on each
phone,
always with the same result.

Simon

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Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

[Marie N.]

ay more
comfortable than previous models. Lighter, more flexible and over
all, a better fit. Not a perfect fit, but better than the Trekz, 
Titanium or Bluez.

I've come across other bone conduction headsets online, but the
Aftershokz line seems to be the gold standard in this space. The
Aeropex don't seem to vibrate as much as the Trekz, but being bone
conduction, it's not like you should expect high fidelity sound or
anything. It's just impossible with this technology. I use these bad
boys all day throughout the day and for working out. Microphone for
calls is at best adequate and dictation can be an exercise in
frustration too. But, tradeoffs and all that. These are the headphones I 
use most over all.


Cristóbal

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On
Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:55 AM
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Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Don't know the difference because I don't have the Trekx and just
got my Aeropix the day before yesterday. I am quite pleased with
them after being so disappointed with the Titanium model, They are
softer and more flexible, have much better sound and microphone and
I love the magnetic charging cables included. I was considering
trying the Bose Frames and realize they would have better sound but
these will work quite well for me and over $100 less.

From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Hi Nimer,

What are the diffeerences between the Aero Trekz and the Aeropex?  I
know I can read about the differences but, I'm asking from a
personal opinion standpoint.  I'm currently using the Trekz model
and just curious if they're more comfortable, sound differences.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Nimer Jaber
To: Viphone
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Hello,

I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the
best in terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use
the Aeropex, and find them to be the best ones yet.

Thanks.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than
those made by Aftershokz?
Aftershokz do not fit me.


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Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

[Marie N.]

Don’t know the difference because I don’t have the Trekx and just got my 
Aeropix the day before yesterday. I am quite pleased with them after being so 
disappointed with the Titanium model, They are softer and more flexible, have 
much better sound and microphone and I love the magnetic charging cables 
included. I was considering trying the Bose Frames and realize they would have 
better sound but these will work quite well for me and over $100 less.

From: Mike B 
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Hi Nimer,

What are the diffeerences between the Aero Trekz and the Aeropex?  I know I can 
read about the differences but, I'm asking from a personal opinion standpoint.  
I'm currently using the Trekz model and just curious if they're more 
comfortable, sound differences.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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From: Nimer Jaber 
To: Viphone 
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction


Hello,


I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in 
terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and find 
them to be the best ones yet.

Thanks.


On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner  
wrote:

  Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those 
made by Aftershokz?

  Aftershokz do not fit me.






  Richard



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Re: Seeing AI update

[Marie N.]

This is a feature that might convince me that I need an IPhone 12. LOL!
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:56 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Seeing AI update

Seeing AI, Today, • The new World channel, available on devices with a LiDAR 
scanner running iOS 14, enables you to explore an unfamiliar space in 3D, 
using spatial audio. When wearing headphones, you will hear objects around 
you announced from their location in the room. You can also find a 
particular object by placing an audio beacon on it. We are keen to hear your 
feedback on this early experiment, and invite you to work with us as we 
explore this new area together with the community. • On iPhone 12 Pro and 
Pro Max, the haptic proximity sensor enables you to point the LiDAR scanner 
and feel the distance to things around you • The main screen has been 
visually redesigned to improve contrast and widen the camera's field of 
view • Improvements to image descriptions on the Scene channel, and when 
browsing photos on your phone • Improved text recognition accuracy on the 
Document channel • Seeing AI is now available in seven additional languages: 
Czech, Danish, Finnish, Greek, Hungarian, Polish, and Swedish • Plus, 
various bug fixes under the hood, Version 4.0 • 234.5 MB


Richard

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Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

[Marie N.]

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a

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Richard, I have always respected your opinions and findings, have you
tried the app with any scanning stands?

I’ve also just purchased a lifetime subscription and am about to try my
scanning stands.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 22 Dec 2020, at 19:39, Shane Lowe  wrote:


Richard,
I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind
endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth
the price. Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and
everyone on this list.


On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:

Greetings,
I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.
It has my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who
do not know, is done with threads of varying colors and is in more
of a handwriting type script rather than block letters.
Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and
I think I have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader,
Voice Dream Scanner, Seeing AI, Envision AI and possibly more.
Supersense  only messed up the last line which should read God is
awake.
The fact that it got the rest 100% correct and extremely quickly
made me decide to go ahead and buy the app, knowing that it is going
to get better in the future.
Here is the Supersense scan of the Victor Hugo quote:
Have courage for the great sorrows

of Life,

And patience for the small ones.
And when you have laboriously
Accomplished your daily task,

Go to sleep in Peace

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Re: Mac email list

[Marie N.]

Thanks for posting this because the list is a bit difficult to find and get 
subscribed.
Marie

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Mac email list

Try navigating by buttons until you find the Ask to be added to the Mac 
Visionaries group.

 

I’m not a Mac user, I was just attempting to point to the right direction since 
no one had answered the question.

I hope you can get what you need.

 

 

 

Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac email list

 

Hi,

How do you subscribe to this list.

Jen





  On Dec 16, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

   

  Here is the home page for the Mac Visionaries list:

  MacVisionaries - Google Groups

   

   

   

  Richard

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann M 
Medlar
  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 5:46 AM
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  Subject: Mac email list

   

  Would someone please send me the link to sign up for the Apple Mac list?

  Thank you.

   

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Re: Tutorial on iDevice chargers and cables was RE: searching for a cable

[Marie N.]

yes, it no longer comes with a brick! Shame on Apple.
Marie


From: Malcolm Parfitt 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 6:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Tutorial on iDevice chargers and cables was RE: searching for a 
cable

My friend had his SE20 back in May here in the UK and it came with a cable and 
charger.  I’ve no idea if that situation has changed since then.


Malcolm Parfitt


  On 15 Dec 2020, at 14:38, Gordon  wrote:


   
  The SE20 will come with a USB type C cable with no charging brick. You can 
purchase the 20 watt charger from Apple or probably your carrier when you 
purchase the phone. But you can also use your existing charger as well if you 
don't mind charging at regular speed. The USB type C cable which comes with the 
SE20 along with the 20 watt brick will charge faster. 


  On 12/15/2020 8:18 AM, Shirley Baker wrote:

I have an iPhone 6S plus so if I want the SE20, then I need to get the 
brick and cable, right? I am not interested in any other phone but that one for 
myself.I don’t care about the 12 and all that but just the SE20. Does this 
particular phone come with the brick and cable? Again, I’m only interested in 
this one phone and not the rest.


Sent from my iPhone


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Re: Apple TV

[Marie N.]

Just move in front of the Apple TV and the old remote will pair 
automatically. You can buy the remote from Amazon if necessary. I bought a 
couple as backups, because I also think they are much easier to use.

Marie
.

-Original Message- 
From: 'Nancy Badger' via VIPhone

Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV

Simon,
We have a couple of those. How do you make it pair up?
Nancy

Nancy Badger

On Dec 12, 2020, at 11:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Or if you can get one,
Get the older remote from the apple tv 3 or 2nd gen and use that,
I still think it works better for me.

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Lumpkin

Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2020 4:23 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV

You can pair a Bluetooth keyboard with the apple tv 4. The apple tv 4k's 
remote is much the same. It is very accessible but takes some practice and 
patience


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Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV

Hi everyone,
We have an Apple TV fourth generation. We have never been happy with how the 
remote works. Does anyone know if the gnu Apple TV has the same remote or 
did it get better? Also, does anyone know if there is a way to pair the 
older remotes from version one through three with  Apple TV 4? Thanks very 
much and happy holidays!


Nancy Badger

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Re: How Do You Get Eyenote to Work?

[Marie N.]

Yes, just fold the phone up to the end of the bill and it will read it.


-Original Message- 
From: Shirley Baker

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To: Vip Home
Subject: How Do You Get Eyenote to Work?

I can't figure out how to get eyenote to work. I just get a blank screen; 
nothing. Do I just put my money over the phone and then it will read it? I 
just thought I would get some sort of message.


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

[Marie N.]

The voyager 3200 will definitely switch automatically.
Marie


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

I'm not aware of any that can receive output from two devices at once.  Are 
you saying the Plantronics Voyagers can do this, really?
All the ones I have used, not the Voyagers, but other Plantronics, you had 
to manually switch between devices.





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N.

Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 8:11 AM
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Subject: Re: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

the Plantronics Voyager models can do what you are asking.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

Is there a blue tooth earpiece that can pair with more than one device, 
switching between devices when one speaks?  If my watch and phone are both 
paired to the earpiece, can I hear the GPS on the phone when it speaks, and 
the messages on my watch when they interrupt the GPS?



Thx

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Re: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

[Marie N.]

the Plantronics Voyager models can do what you are asking.


-Original Message- 
From: Ann Byrne

Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

Is there a blue tooth earpiece that can pair with more than one
device, switching between devices when one speaks?  If my watch and
phone are both paired to the earpiece, can I hear the GPS on the
phone when it speaks, and the messages on my watch when they interrupt the 
GPS?



Thx

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Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

[Marie N.]

I have five Sonos speakers and have been able to set up and control all with 
the app and skip the touch controls entirely. The sound is fantastic and I 
love playing my music all over my home so easily. I thought about getting a 
couple of home pods but decided there was no need for me.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Opinions on HomePod mini?

I can't speak for the home pod,
But the sonos1 is a nice speaker but it does have touch buttons which 
aren't marked on the top of the speaker,

So it is best to be able to use alexa on the device,

I'm not a fan of alexa

So it really depends on what you're after.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan

Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2020 6:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Opinions on HomePod mini?

Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is the 
best Airplay speaker for the price?


The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks,
Traci

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Unpairing watch

[Marie N.]

When you unpair the watch from your iphone, does this do a complete reset?

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Re: Home Pod Mini

[Marie N.]

Actualy, having audio books go through the Sonos system is possible. Simply 
start them on the IPhone and then in Control Panel, send them to the Sonos 
system. Give it a try. And if you own the Sonos One, just ask it to read a book 
with Audible if you are subscribed to that servvice.
Marie


From: Simon A Fogarty 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Home Pod Mini

Exactly,

 

I don’t have that much space and I can hear the speakers in my lounge while I’m 
in the kitchen,

I just don’t care what the neighbours say,

 

But having different things play in different rooms while your walking around 
is great,

 

I just wish I could get my audio books to play through my sonos devices,

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, 20 October 2020 3:26 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Home Pod Mini

 

The main thing I love about the Sonos and/or the Home pods is the ability to 
send whatever I am playing to all the speakers in my home. Since I live alone I 
can move to another room and still hear my music, or a football game or radio 
station. I have a bit over 1800 square feet to roam and prefer not having to 
carry a device around whenever I wander. This way I can concentrate on my 
navigation. LOL!

FYI I have set up Amazon, Google and Sonos speakers with no sighted assistance 
with very little or no trouble and know there will be no problem with the Home 
pods I plan to try when available. So it is nonsense to say we can’t do this.

 

Marie

From: Pete Nalda 

Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 11:20 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Home Pod Mini

 

You can use it to control your own music library at home or in the cloud that 
you own 

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  On Oct 18, 2020, at 9:41 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

   

  Hi folks,

  I have never owned a smart speaker. For this reason, excuse my question. It 
may sound naïve to many of you. If one wants to get the Home Pod Mini, or any 
other smart speaker for that matter, but this person does not want to subscribe 
to any music streaming service, what would be the benefits of owning such a 
smart speaker? I understand that one can use it to airplay YouTube music or 
radio stations via the iPhone Bluetooth connection. Apart from that, what one 
can use the speaker as a standalone besides SIRI or Alexa? Is it worth for 
someone who has no intention to spend money on streaming services to buy a 
smart speaker like the Home Pod Mini? Apple mentioned that the home pod will be 
accessible via voice over. I do not know if this means it will be controlled 
via the voice over of the iPhone, or does it have voice over built into it. 
Does anyone know?

  Regards,

   

  Cris Ali

  filasti...@hotmail.com

   

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Re: Home Pod Mini

[Marie N.]

I do use my ITunes music primarily but also have access to Amazon Prime music. 
In addition I can do most things now done on the phone through the Home Pod 
mini. (When they become available, of course!) So I could replace the Amazon 
devices totally and since I find their app less than ideal, I would be content 
with that. Perhaps I might retain one Dot in a strategic location as a backup 
for any questions to which Siri may not give an appropriate response.
Plus I have one Sonos speaker which is Alexa enabled. And yes the Sonos does 
have remarkable sound.
Marie

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Home Pod Mini

Did someone say we couldn’t do this?

Those devices are all quite blind user friendly.

I have not heard the Sonos speakers but I understand they have great sound, 
which comes at a pretty high price point, but may very well be worth the cost.

If your primary music source is your iTunes library, then it makes sense to me 
to go with an Apple product for ease of use and compatibility.

But, I have not delved into the Smart Speaker world myself.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Home Pod Mini

 

The main thing I love about the Sonos and/or the Home pods is the ability to 
send whatever I am playing to all the speakers in my home. Since I live alone I 
can move to another room and still hear my music, or a football game or radio 
station. I have a bit over 1800 square feet to roam and prefer not having to 
carry a device around whenever I wander. This way I can concentrate on my 
navigation. LOL!

FYI I have set up Amazon, Google and Sonos speakers with no sighted assistance 
with very little or no trouble and know there will be no problem with the Home 
pods I plan to try when available. So it is nonsense to say we can’t do this.

 

Marie

From: Pete Nalda 

Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 11:20 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Home Pod Mini

 

You can use it to control your own music library at home or in the cloud that 
you own 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates 

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  On Oct 18, 2020, at 9:41 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

   

  Hi folks,

  I have never owned a smart speaker. For this reason, excuse my question. It 
may sound naïve to many of you. If one wants to get the Home Pod Mini, or any 
other smart speaker for that matter, but this person does not want to subscribe 
to any music streaming service, what would be the benefits of owning such a 
smart speaker? I understand that one can use it to airplay YouTube music or 
radio stations via the iPhone Bluetooth connection. Apart from that, what one 
can use the speaker as a standalone besides SIRI or Alexa? Is it worth for 
someone who has no intention to spend money on streaming services to buy a 
smart speaker like the Home Pod Mini? Apple mentioned that the home pod will be 
accessible via voice over. I do not know if this means it will be controlled 
via the voice over of the iPhone, or does it have voice over built into it. 
Does anyone know?

  Regards,

   

  Cris Ali

  filasti...@hotmail.com

   

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Re: Home Pod Mini

[Marie N.]

The main thing I love about the Sonos and/or the Home pods is the ability to 
send whatever I am playing to all the speakers in my home. Since I live alone I 
can move to another room and still hear my music, or a football game or radio 
station. I have a bit over 1800 square feet to roam and prefer not having to 
carry a device around whenever I wander. This way I can concentrate on my 
navigation. LOL!
FYI I have set up Amazon, Google and Sonos speakers with no sighted assistance 
with very little or no trouble and know there will be no problem with the Home 
pods I plan to try when available. So it is nonsense to say we can’t do this.

Marie
From: Pete Nalda 
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 11:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Home Pod Mini

You can use it to control your own music library at home or in the cloud that 
you own 


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  On Oct 18, 2020, at 9:41 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:


   
  Hi folks,

  I have never owned a smart speaker. For this reason, excuse my question. It 
may sound naïve to many of you. If one wants to get the Home Pod Mini, or any 
other smart speaker for that matter, but this person does not want to subscribe 
to any music streaming service, what would be the benefits of owning such a 
smart speaker? I understand that one can use it to airplay YouTube music or 
radio stations via the iPhone Bluetooth connection. Apart from that, what one 
can use the speaker as a standalone besides SIRI or Alexa? Is it worth for 
someone who has no intention to spend money on streaming services to buy a 
smart speaker like the Home Pod Mini? Apple mentioned that the home pod will be 
accessible via voice over. I do not know if this means it will be controlled 
via the voice over of the iPhone, or does it have voice over built into it. 
Does anyone know?

  Regards,

   

  Cris Ali

  filasti...@hotmail.com

   

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Re: Review iPhone 12 series??

[Marie N.]

I often go for the newest phones and last year I got an 11 Pro. I absolutely 
think it is the best IPhone I have used. I am somewhat disappointed in the 
new phones and see nothing that temps me to plunk down the amount they have 
put on these and especially when not including the headsets or the charging 
items. Not that the silly charging block they have continued to use is a big 
loss but the headsets are in my opinion.

I will be sticking with the SE and the 11 Pro for now.
Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Review iPhone 12 series??

Hi Les,

Probably a wise choice not to pay top Dollar to get the iPhone 12, I think 
anybody who has anything from a 10 up is wasting their money. One thing, 
however, if I were to consider an upgrade I would certainly look at last 
year's iPhone 11 instead of the XR from 2 years ago. My wife and I hadn't 
planned to upgrade either this year and keep our iPhone 8 which we got 2 
years ago. However, we had 64 Gb models and while I only use about half of 
that space, my wife likes to keep lots of photos and videos on her phone and 
hers was full. Then our provider here in Canada came out with a pretty good 
deal, I could get an iPhone 11 64 Gb for $33/month over 2 years with $0 up 
front, that is $792 Canadian which works out to less than $600 US, not a 
super deal, but also not too bad so we went for it. Unfortunately they only 
offered the 11 with 64 Gb and since my wife likes smaller phones anyways we 
went with an iPhone 11 Pro for her with 256 Gb storage which cost the same 
$33 a month over 2 years + a downpayment of a few hundred Bucks, can't 
remember exactly how much, but again in the end a few hundred cheaper than 
if we had bought one outright. It seems that there is only a $100 or so 
difference between the XR and 11 and for that I think the 11 is a better 
choice, if you do want to sell it or trade it in in 2 or 3 years you 
probably make that extra $100 back in resale value.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Review iPhone 12 series??

Hi Mary, Alan and Interested Others,
Well, Verizon will not take advantage of us. My wife and I will be getting 
iPhone 10R models. I know I can learn to use Face ID, and now is a good time 
to learn. I figure it will be a long time before we see 5G in our area. If I 
am mistaken and it happens within two years or so, we can upgrade if we 
wish. In the meantime, with the money we will save, my wife can upgrade her 
iPad if she wishes to do so. I appreciate all of the discussion on various 
iPhome models. It really helped me make a decision for myself and the 
recommendation I offered my wife.

Best Regards,

Les

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Review iPhone 12 series??

I am with you on 5G, Les and Alan. I think it’s a bunch of height, 
especially Verizon and their MM wave which is vanishingly difficult to 
actually connect to. So they’re ripping you off yet again. It’s interesting 
that both they and AT are giving a little subsidy on the iPhone. They must 
be desperate. I think the SE2 could be very compelling. That’s especially if 
you like a home button.

I’m sticking with my 10 R.


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 14, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

Hi Alan,
I am also with you and Richard. I will share my experience in the hopes it 
will help others. I have been a Verizon customer for many years. As a 
result, I am on a Loyalty Plan for individuals 55 and older. I was 
seriously considering the iPhone 12 Mini and had a lengthy conversation 
with a Verizon rep. Then I asked about how this would affect our plan. I 
learned that if I purchased a 5G capable phone, I would have to switch to 
a 5g plan. Our bill would go up by $54 per month. It gets worse. I live in 
a town which does not have 5G yet. No way to tell when that might come 
here. So I would be paying an extra $54 per month for a service I cannot 
use. Guess what I'm doing? I'm now looking at either the SEor the iPhone 
11 pro. I would welcome any comments pro or con about either phone. For 
me, 5G is out. Even if it were available, I don't think it's worth an 
extra $54 per month. Now, this could change, but it does not matter to me 
at this point.

Best Regards,

Les

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Review iPhone 12 series??

I'm with Richard here. Be aware that all the hoopla about 5G will require 
use of cellular data and I suspect that at some point, carriers will be 
charging accordingly to recover whatever hardware they've priced low to 
get you into 

Re: Audio quality on the 11 vs the upcoming models?

[Marie N.]

I can tell no difference between my SE and my 11 pro but can definitely hear 
improvemen with the IPad Mini. That tells me that the size is a huge factor, 
and not a surprise.

Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Audio quality on the 11 vs the upcoming models?

Well, I compared the SE 2nd generation with the iPhone 11, and if there was 
a quality difference, it was very minor.
Face it, you are not going to get much stereo separation with the length of 
a phone.




Richard
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Herbert


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio quality on the 11 vs the upcoming models?

My guess is the speakers on the 11 Pro Max are better and perhaps louder 
than the 11, simply because the phone is bigger and there's more separation 
between left and right, if the phone is held sideways that is. The speakers 
might sound better than those on the 11 or 11 Pro, not sure on that since I 
haven't heard them to compare. I've been using YouTube to look up things 
like this. Though audio from a video recording can be tricky and hard to 
judge depending on how the person has their mike positioned, it is an 
option.


Wayne

On 10/16/20, Matthew Bullis  wrote:

So as a follow-up question based on responses from my other thread,
there was a suggestion of getting an 11 then a newer phone a few years 
from now.

I'm sorry, but I couldn't find the name of the person who brought that up.
Do we know at this point whether the speakers on the pro models
upcoming are any different than the 11 pro max? I read through the
specs and didn't  see that listed.
Thanks,
Matthew

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Re: Siri quit saying things regarding sports

[Marie N.]

On my 11 Pro, my Echo and the Google mini I just asked for the score on 
today's game and all three devices gave me the correct information.

Still on IOS 13.7.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: stewart

Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri quit saying things regarding sports

i haven't updated to fourteen yet as  apparently there are some issues
with it. but i am having the same problem with siri as the rest.

On 10/13/2020 1:47 PM, kitty hevener wrote:
Richard, I am having the same problem with siri that you are having.  I 
have hard the same thing from at least four other blind people who are 
using ios 14.  I am not using the latest ios update, but am still having 
the problem.


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Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:20 AM
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Subject: RE: Siri quit saying things regarding sports

OK, I just confirmed that.
So, maybe amazon has solved the bug but Apple has not.



Richard
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Richard:

I just asked Alexa about the game in New Orleans last night and she gave 
me the correct answer.


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Re: Does Apple Watch use Screen Curtain?

[Marie N.]

Richard, I have the screen curtain on with my series five and like on the 
phone, voiceover sees and reads everything with no problem. It just keeps 
others from seeing your screen.
Marie


From: Shirley Baker 
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Does Apple Watch use Screen Curtain?

Yes, it does


Sent from my iPhone


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  I’m reading Apple Watch for Dummies, and since it isn’t about accessibility, 
I thought I’d ask here about Screen Curtain on the watch.

  Probably defeats the point of having a clockface, but mostly just curious.

  Thanks,

   

   

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Re: KeePass [was "RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?"]

[Marie N]

Will Keypass Touch work with the database in One Drive rather than Drop Box?
Thanks


From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: KeePass [was "RE: Accessible electronic password managers being 
used?"]

Hi Christopher,

I use KeePass Touch on my iPhone SE 2020. I paid the 99 cents to get sync 
privileges and keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder. It works 
great on both Windows and iOS and I have a total investment cost of 99 cents.

I really like KeePass Touch because it's very easy to search for specific 
entries and copying of the password value is very easy too.

Alan Lemly  

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: KeePass [was "RE: Accessible electronic password managers being 
used?"] 

It looks like there are multiple apps for IOS that support KeePass. Which one 
are you using Alan? Also, I assume to use this across multiple platforms, 
you’ll need to access a common password file, maybe on a file sharing service 
like Google Drive, is this true?



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?



I agree that vertical navigation in the rotor makes moving through an Excel 
sheet on the iPhone much easier. I assume Excel will prompt you for the 
password if you attempt to open a protected spreadsheet with it.



I much prefer accessing my KeePass passwords with the KeePass touch app on my 
iPhone. I can do a quick search by name of what I need, swipe to the password 
field, and double tap to copy it for quick pasting to wherever it is needed.



Alan Lemly



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marty Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible electronic password managers being used?



Managing an Excel spread sheet on my iPhone suddenly became much easier when a 
friend suggested that I add Vertical Navigation to my roter.  I am not sure how 
to use a pass word to unlock an Excel file on the iPhone.



Love in Christ
Marty
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Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, 
signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020



From: Alan Lemly 

Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 5:40 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Accessible electronic password managers being used?



Marty,



You could use Excel to keep your passwords but I'll caution you that Excel's 
passwords aren't that secure. Also, I don't think Navigating an Excel 
spreadsheet on a mobile device would be nearly as easy as with an app designed 
to manage passwords. If either of these issues aren't a problem for you, Excel 
is much better than managing them manually.



Alan Lemly 



Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Marty 
Hutchings 
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 5:04:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Accessible electronic password managers being used? 



Is it possible to create your own pass word database by using Excel and 
protecting the file with a pass word ?



Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William 
Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, 
signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020



From: Alan Lemly 

Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 1:36 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Accessible electronic password managers being used?



Shirley,



I'm not going to pretend to understand all the features offered by the various 
password manager apps and programs. I will say that I don't like any software 
doing things for me automatically. I use my KeePass password manager by 
remembering its master password and whenever I go to a site or app that 
requires a password, I sign into KeePass, look up the applicable entry, and 
copy and paste its password to the requesting site from KeePass. I also make 
sure if the site is new and requires registration that I set up an entry for it 
in my KeePass database.



Alan Lemly



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shirley Baker
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 12:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible electronic password managers being used?



Is it true that when you use one of these password managers, you don't have to 
remember your password? If that is 

Re: Question about magnetic cables

[Marie N.]

www.talkingmp3players.com/

The owner is Laz and he has some great bargains. He is a blind person and 
his products are targeted for the blind user.

Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Denise Colley

Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 12:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about magnetic cables

Marie:

Where did you get yours.

Denise

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Marie N.

Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about magnetic cables

Sorry, but you are incorrect. You can buy magnetic cables with the lightning
connector. I have two of them.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Deb Cook Lewis

Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about magnetic cables

I believe, Denise, you bought the micro USB magnetic cables we
discussed on another list. The Iphone takes a lightning cable so no,
it absolutely won't work. And it wouldn't be a good idea because that
cable already fits tightly. Where some peple like them is with the
micro USB ports that sometimes are pretty fragile.

On 6/27/19, Richard Turner  wrote:

Which magnetic cables would that be?
The only Apple device I’ve heard of using Magnetic charging cables is the
Mac computers.

Magnets should be kept away from phones.  Though, I doubt the magnets are
that strong.


Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Denise Colley
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about magnetic cables

Does anyone know if the magnetic cables can be used with the IPhone XR?  I
can’t seem to get the magnet to fit into the phone port at all.

Denise
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Re: Question about magnetic cables

[Marie N.]

The purpose of the magnetic cables is that the connector stays in the charging 
port and the cable disconnects from it. It is supposed to save the port on the 
phone from damage from plugging the cables in and removing them so often. With 
the newer wireless charging this is not a factor any longer.
Marie

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Question about magnetic cables

I fail to see what advantage a magnetic Lightning cable would have over a 
regular Lightning cable.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Jones
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about magnetic cables

 

There are indeed magnetic lightning cables available that work quite well and 
are safe to use. 

 

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 3:27 PM Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:

  I believe, Denise, you bought the micro USB magnetic cables we
  discussed on another list. The Iphone takes a lightning cable so no,
  it absolutely won't work. And it wouldn't be a good idea because that
  cable already fits tightly. Where some peple like them is with the
  micro USB ports that sometimes are pretty fragile.

  On 6/27/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
  > Which magnetic cables would that be?
  > The only Apple device I’ve heard of using Magnetic charging cables is the
  > Mac computers.
  >
  > Magnets should be kept away from phones.  Though, I doubt the magnets are
  > that strong.
  >
  >
  > Richard
  >
  >
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  > lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
  > Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
  >
  > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
  > Denise Colley
  > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:12 PM
  > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  > Subject: Question about magnetic cables
  >
  > Does anyone know if the magnetic cables can be used with the IPhone XR?  I
  > can’t seem to get the magnet to fit into the phone port at all.
  >
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Re: Question about magnetic cables

[Marie N.]

Sorry, but you are incorrect. You can buy magnetic cables with the lightning 
connector. I have two of them.

Marie


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I believe, Denise, you bought the micro USB magnetic cables we
discussed on another list. The Iphone takes a lightning cable so no,
it absolutely won't work. And it wouldn't be a good idea because that
cable already fits tightly. Where some peple like them is with the
micro USB ports that sometimes are pretty fragile.

On 6/27/19, Richard Turner  wrote:

Which magnetic cables would that be?
The only Apple device I’ve heard of using Magnetic charging cables is the
Mac computers.

Magnets should be kept away from phones.  Though, I doubt the magnets are
that strong.


Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Denise Colley
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about magnetic cables

Does anyone know if the magnetic cables can be used with the IPhone XR?  I
can’t seem to get the magnet to fit into the phone port at all.

Denise
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Re: The new phone I heard about on the other list.

[Marie N.]

This is a list for the IPhone, not all phones.


-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The new phone I heard about on the other list.

The Pro1 FX TE, I think I have it right.

It is a phone with a qwerty keyboard, and it seems as it is
locked in landscape, so if you don't mind that . . .

Also, it isn't out yet, but supposed to be coming, so watch
for it.

Judy
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Subject: [PhonesForTheBlind] The new slider flip phone for
$649.

Judy, you posted an interesting piece about a new phone
yesterday - slider flip smart phone for $649. Someone on
another list wanted to know the name of it. I did not
remember, so told her I would ask. Thanks.

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Re: Greater Voice Controls coming in iOS and Mac 13

[Marie N.]

Am I correct in thinking this is for the Mac only and not the IPhone?


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 6:43 AM
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Subject: Greater Voice Controls coming in iOS and Mac 13


  THIS will be a great addition to Apple's accessibility. The link below is for 
a youtube video from Apple: 
  https://youtu.be/aqoXFCCTfm4





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Re: Command for XR

[Marie N.]

You use the gesture for the home button to close the app and then repeat the 
gesture to close the folder. If there were a home button it would be the same, 
but you would be pressing it to close the app and then pressing it again to 
close the folder.



From: Cook, Steve 
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Command for XR

Hi All, 

 

I have an iPhone XR.  Let me explain my question.  I have folders, then I open 
an app from within the folder.  What is the command to close the app and the 
folder to return to the home screen?  Thanks in advance!

 

Steve

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Re: how do I unsub from this list

[Marie N.]

Please, please stop sending messages to this thread as requested by several 
members, including myself. It has gone so far off topic.



-Original Message- 
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Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list

Oh, and, I guess some of them know what VoiceOver is?

Best regards,

Carolyn


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 1:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list

All a sighted person has to do to turn off screen curtain is to ask SIRI to 
turn off Voiceover, once Voiceover is off there is no more screen curtain.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 5:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list

My cousin says what you are saying too. How could they turn off Screen 
Curtain? They haven't a clue, and there is nothing to see.


Best regards,

Carolyn


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of janet gross

Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list

Carolyn,
Trust me, if a sighted person knows anything about the iPhones they can very 
easily turn off the Screen Curtain, and they can most definitely find 
settings, as this seems to be one of the first things blind or sighted 
people learn about is the settings app.


Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 7:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list

My husband gets so mixed up about touching icon, then double tapping. Then 
with Screen Curtain on to - forget it. A sighted person is completely blind, 
can't do anything with it at all, can't see how to get to settings.


Best regards,

Carolyn


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of janet gross

Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 8:24 PM
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HI Carolyn,
Just out of curiosity, Why would a sighted person not be able to use an 
iPhone if Voiceover is on? This is interesting!

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list

Josh, I did not put a password in my iPhone. If you can get it off, keep 
screen curtain on, and with VoiceOver on, my husband says a sighted person 
could not use the thing, if they got it.


I am so sorry that it is such a disappointment to you.

Best regards,

Carolyn


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Subject: how do I unsub from this list

Hi to all.  How do I unsubscribe from this list.  I never should have gotten 
an iPhone in the first place.  I don't want to take the time to learn how to 
type on the stupid keyboard on the screen.  I hate the idea of having to 
type in my apple ID when I want to download an app.
Stupid security.  My flip phone was so much easier.  I could just turn it on 
and it would power up and away I would go.  No having to type in my stupid 
pass code to unlock my phone.  I never should have let that article I read 
about seeing AI influence my decision to get an iPhone.
On Monday I'm contacting apple to see about getting it returned and most of 
my money back.  With apple care and the cost of my phone, I spent almost 
$1000.  I could have bought a great desktop computer for that much money and 
it has a real keyboard on it.

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Re: sorry for causing confusion on the list

[Marie N.]

Please don't feel responsible for all the off-topic posts to your message. 
It is the other members who let it trail off into a chat session and all 
should know better. But many of the posts were giving helpful information, 
just hard to sort it out and make sense of it when mixed in with the totally 
useless ones.
This list has not let this happen often so stick in here and I feel sure you 
will get a great deal of useful information and help.

Good luck.
Marie


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Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 12:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: sorry for causing confusion on the list

Hi to all.  I just wanted to apologize for sending the message about
unsubscribing from the list.  Sorry that my message generated so much
traffic.  I was just very frustrated that it will take me a little
longer to learn the iPhone then other technology.  I'm used to picking
up things very quickly and not having to ask for much help.  I
successfully put in my wifi password correctly when working with apple
support to set up my iPhone.  That gave me a lot of trouble at first.
It took me forever to put it in, but I did it.

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Re: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

[Marie N.]

I have done some teaching people who are just losing their sight and need to 
learn to use voiceover. It is best to turn the screen curtain on so they learn 
it without any sight. This relieves some of the frustration as their sight 
becomes worse. But a fully sighted person would probably have no clue what a 
screen curtain was or how to turn it off. The exception is for a close family 
or friend who has learned a bit about how we use our phones.

From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from 
this list)

Carolyn,

How could they turn off Screen Curtain? They haven't a clue, and there is 
nothing to see.Wondering the very same thing. Given that a sighted person will 
use the screen to do what we do using the screen reader, how could they do it 
without anything to see?

Cheers, 
Marcio 
AKA Starboy


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Re: my phone is totally messed up, can't even be recognized by Itunes

[Marie N.]

I, for one am glad you called Apple accessibility. I believe they can give 
you much better support and advice than the phone carriers.
And doing the reset on the phone actually helps you learn more about it and 
lets you know that it can fix many things.Quite a good turn around from 
wanting to return the phone and unsubscribe.

Way to go!

-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 9:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: my phone is totally messed up, can't even be recognized by 
Itunes


Hi Alan and all.  I got in touch with apple support.  I am almost done
downloading my phone's software again.  My phone will have to be set
up again from scratch.  I really locked up my phone.  I did learn a
bit how to use my phones roter with voice over though.  ?That was
pretty cool.  I just won't change voice over typing for a while until
I know the keyboard on the phone a bit more.

On 6/9/19, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Joshua,

To reset or reboot your iPhone 8 as Anna suggested, press the volume up
button once, the volume down button once, and then hold down the power
button. The volume buttons are on the left side of the phone and the power
button is on the right side.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 10:53 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: my phone is totally messed up, can't even be recognized by
Itunes

Hi Joshua,

Try resetting your phone. If it's earlier than a 7, hold down the Home and
Power buttons for 10 seconds to do this. For a later phone, check online 
or

in the iPHone manual for a way to do this.






On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:33 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

Hi to all.  I'm very glad I used the roter to get my voice over typing
back to standard typing.  However, I totally broke my phone.  My phone
then gave me the message connect to itunes.  I downloaded and
installed itunes with no trouble.  I connected my phone to the
computer, but Itunes didn't recognize it at all.  I took a quick look
on the web and found out about restarting my computer with my phone
still connected to the computer and that didn't do anything at all.
Hopefully tomorrow, my dad can take me to the verizon store again and
maybe my phone can be fixed.  I hope I won't have to send it back to
apple, or get another phone.

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How many things can be discussed under one subject?

[Marie N.]

As the above subject suggests, the thread concerning unsubscribing is all over 
the place and out of control. I know it is not my place to moderate but please, 
people do some self moderating.

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Re: Face ID and iTunes-App Store Question Please.

[Marie N.]

The first time you make a purchase on a new phone, they require you to enter 
this information. Future purchases should not require the same.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 12:16 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Face ID and iTunes-App Store Question Please.

HI Everyone,
I have face id set up on my XR phone, and I also use face id to the app 
store, well, I wanted to download a couple free apps, but I kept getting the 
message to enter my password as well as my security code, so I enter all 
that information.  I thought if I had face id set up to the app store I 
wouldn't have to enter all that information.  Ok, after I enter all that 
information, I then get a message saying I need to enter my credit card 
number, so I enter that, I then get a message saying I need to enter the 
expiration date as well as the security code of my card.  My question is why 
do I need to log in using my password and security code, if I already have 
face id set up for the app store?  Why do I have to enter my credit card and 
expiration date-security code, as I already have that information on my 
phone?  Can some kind soul tell me why is this please, especially when I 
might be downloading a free app?

Thank you all in advance.
Janet


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Re: how do I unsub from this list

[Marie N.]

Oh I agree with you and would never go back to a flip phone no matter how 
accessible. But there are still people around who just do not want to go to a 
smart phone and I like to keep somewhat up to date on what is available.


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list

It’s a bit funny, but when I went to the top of the page and then tabbed Jaws 
said “dialogue” and then tabbing to the USA button (it only has Europ or USA) 
worked. You can try this link, it may get you past it:

 

Lucia Phone

 

Seems like this is not yet available because it says “coming soon”. No pricing 
is given and here is my two cents worth:

Unless somebody can’t use a touch screen phone like the iPhone because of 
multiple disabilities, maybe motor skill issues which despite the 
accommodations the iPhone has can’t be overcome, going back to a phone like 
this Lucia to me is sort of like going back from a modern PC to using a 
typewriter. As many pointed out, you have to learn the concepts and gestures 
for the iPhone, but Larry and Carolyn are only two examples of people in their 
70’s and I think Carolyn is already 80, who apparently successfully managed to 
learn how to use the iPhone with Voiceover. Giving up after a day or two is not 
advisable.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how do I unsub from this list

 

I went to this web site with both Chrome and FireFox using Jaws on a Win 10 
computer and can’t get past the “select region”. Interesting?

 

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 9:59 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: how do I unsub from this list

 

Joshua, 

There is a new flip phone that talks, reads missed calls, you can text the old 
fashioned way, and it will read the text messages you receive and it has lots 
of high quality voices on it; its called the Lucia phone.

www.luciaphone.com

 

You should know that you can set your iPhone so that you do not have to enter 
your password for free apps, and as has been said, you do not have to use a 
passcode.

But, flat screen phones are not for everyone.

Best of luck,

Richard

 

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any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 8, 2019, at 8:51 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

  Hi to all.  How do I unsubscribe from this list.  I never should have
  gotten an iPhone in the first place.  I don't want to take the time to
  learn how to type on the stupid keyboard on the screen.  I hate the
  idea of having to type in my apple ID when I want to download an app.
  Stupid security.  My flip phone was so much easier.  I could just turn
  it on and it would power up and away I would go.  No having to type in
  my stupid pass code to unlock my phone.  I never should have let that
  article I read about seeing AI influence my decision to get an iPhone.
  On Monday I'm contacting apple to see about getting it returned and
  most of my money back.  With apple care and the cost of my phone, I
  spent almost $1000.  I could have bought a great desktop computer for
  that much money and it has a real keyboard on it.
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I went to this web site with both Chrome and FireFox using Jaws on a Win 10 
computer and can’t get past the “select region”. Interesting?


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 9:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: how do I unsub from this list

Joshua, 
There is a new flip phone that talks, reads missed calls, you can text the old 
fashioned way, and it will read the text messages you receive and it has lots 
of high quality voices on it; its called the Lucia phone.
www.luciaphone.com

You should know that you can set your iPhone so that you do not have to enter 
your password for free apps, and as has been said, you do not have to use a 
passcode.
But, flat screen phones are not for everyone.
Best of luck,
Richard



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On Jun 8, 2019, at 8:51 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:


  Hi to all.  How do I unsubscribe from this list.  I never should have
  gotten an iPhone in the first place.  I don't want to take the time to
  learn how to type on the stupid keyboard on the screen.  I hate the
  idea of having to type in my apple ID when I want to download an app.
  Stupid security.  My flip phone was so much easier.  I could just turn
  it on and it would power up and away I would go.  No having to type in
  my stupid pass code to unlock my phone.  I never should have let that
  article I read about seeing AI influence my decision to get an iPhone.
  On Monday I'm contacting apple to see about getting it returned and
  most of my money back.  With apple care and the cost of my phone, I
  spent almost $1000.  I could have bought a great desktop computer for
  that much money and it has a real keyboard on it.
  -- 
  Joshua Hendrickson

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Re: The Many Uses of the iPhone Home Button

[Marie N.]

Well I got an IPhone X a few months ago and for a while, I hated the “no home 
button” situation. Now that I am used to it, I find that sometimes using the 
home button is a bit awkward. The only thing I really miss is the fingerprint 
ID but usually find the face ID works as often as the finger print. So as 
usual, it is a matter of choices. The problem is that Apple is not going to 
give that choice any longer so we will be forced to change
Marie
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From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 1:11 PM
To: ViPhone List 
Subject: The Many Uses of the iPhone Home Button

Everyone who's used the iPhone for even just a few minutes knows that the Home 
button, the only button on the iPhone's front, is crucial. But relatively few 
people know just how many things the Home button can do — and how to do those 
things on the iPhone models that don't have a Home button. 

Read on to learn all about the many uses of the iPhone Home button.

What the iPhone Home Button Is Used For 

The Home button is used for all kinds of apps and actions including:

  a.. Access Siri: Holding down the Home button will launch Siri. 
  b.. Multitasking: Double-clicking the Home button reveals all running apps in 
the multitasking manager. 
  c.. Music App Controls: When the phone is locked and the Music app plays, 
clicking the home button once will bring up the Music app controls to adjust 
volume, change songs, and play or pause the track. 
  d.. Camera: From the lock screen, a single press of the Home button and a 
swipe from right to left launches the Camera app. 
  e.. Notification Center: From the lock screen, press the Home button and 
swipe left to right to access Notification Center widgets. 
  f.. Accessibility Controls: By default, the Home button only responds to 
single or double clicks. But a triple click can also trigger certain actions. 
In order to configure what a triple click does, go to the Settings app, then 
tap General > Accessibility > Accessibility Shortcut. In that section, you can 
trigger the following actions with a triple click: 
  g.. AssistiveTouch 
  h.. Classic Invert Colors 
  i.. Color Filters 
  j.. Reduce White Point 
  k.. VoiceOver 
  l.. Smart Invert Colors 
  m.. Switch Control 
  n.. VoiceOver 
  o.. Zoom. 
  a.. Dismiss Control Center: If Control Center is open, you can dismiss it 
with a single click of the Home Button. 
  b.. Touch ID: On the iPhone 5S, 6 series, 6S series, 7 series, and 8 series 
the Home button adds another dimension: it's a fingerprint scanner. Called 
Touch ID, this fingerprint scanner makes those models more secure and is used 
to enter passcodes, and passwords for purchases at the iTunes and App Stores, 
and with Apple Pay. 
  c.. Reachability: The iPhone 6 series and newer have a home-button feature 
that no other iPhones have, called Reachability. Because those phones have 
large screens, it can be hard to reach from one side to the other when using 
the phone one-handed. Reachability solves that problem by pulling the top of 
the screen down to the center to make it easy to reach. Users can access 
Reachability by double tapping (not clicking; just a light tap like tapping an 
icon) the Home button. 
iPhone X and Up: The End of the Home Button 

While the iPhone 7 series delivered some big changes to the Home button, the 
iPhone X removes the Home button completely. With the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR 
also lacking Home buttons, it's safe to say that the Home button is on the way 
out. Here's how to perform tasks that used to require the Home button on the 
iPhone X:

  a.. Unlock the phone: You unlock the iPhone X using either the Face ID facial 
recognition system or by entering an onscreen passcode after waking the phone 
by raising it, tapping the screen, or clicking the Side (aka sleep/wake) 
button. 
  b.. Return to home screen: To leave an app and return to the home screen, 
swipe up from the bottom of the screen (Control Center is now accessed by 
swiping down from the top right corner of the screen). 
  c.. Multitasking: To access the multitasking view of all open apps, swipe up 
from the bottom like you're returning to the home screen, but pause partway 
through the swipe. 
  d.. Siri: Instead of pressing and holding the Home button to launch Siri, 
press and hold the Side button. 
  e.. Taking screenshots: The Home button is no longer involved in taking 
screenshots. Instead, squeeze the Side button and volume up button at the same 
time to capture a screenshot. 
  f.. Force restart: Force restarting the iPhone X requires more steps now. 
Click the volume up button, then the volume down button, and then press and 
hold the Side button until the iPhone restarts. 
The Home Button on iPhone 7 and 8 Series 

The iPhone 7 series phones changed the Home button dramatically. On earlier 
models, the button was truly a button: something that moved when you clicked 
it. On the iPhone 7 and then the 8 series, the Home button is actually a

Re: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

[Marie N.]

Janet,
maybe you are missing the point. You can delete the old backups and keep 
only the latest one in the free ICloud space that Apple provides. Then you 
do not need to purchase additional space, so where do you get the idea that 
they are forcing you to do that?



-Original Message- 
From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

Hi Sieghard,
I'm sorry to say I think you are missing the whole point here, and I stated 
what the issue was in my previous message.  You think there is nothing wrong 
with Apple forcing people to purchase more iCloud storage, but I do.  I just 
wonder how long will it be before others have to start purchasing more 
iCloud storage just in order to back up their phone, in case, one loses 
their phone, or if it breaks, and someone might not have the backup, that 
Apple advises people to do.  Let's face it, Apple even advises people before 
downloading an update, be for sure to back up your phone.

Thank you though for your thoughts.
Janet


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 3:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

Hi Janet,

I am not sure why you feel this is such a big issue or unfair on the part of 
Apple. It is entirely up to you if you want to backup to iCloud or not. If 
you want to back up to a computer via iTunes or not back up at all then that 
is your choice, simply turn off iCloud Backup and it's done.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross

Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2019 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

HI Sieghard,
Sieghard says: I assume Janet's problem is not because of backups but 
because other stuff is getting backed up to iCloud.  Janet says: yes, it is 
coming from the backups.  Why should I have to pay Apple even if it is only 
$0.99 cents a month just because of their backups, or because of the large 
updates Apple sends out? I should have the choice if I want to purchase more 
iCloud storage or not, not because I am being forced in to it.  I do not 
have any photos, videos  on my phone or on iCloud.  I've went through iCloud 
storage and checked all the apps I want backed up, and there are only a few 
of them.  I can see just how much storage the backups are taking up in 
iCloud.  When I check iCloud, the message says: 4.1 gbs  of 5gb used backups 
83 percent dim, so this tells me most of my iCloud storage is being used by 
the backups, and this has been confirmed by Apple as well.  One thing I can 
do is to turn off the audo back up each time I charge my phone though. 
Although, Apple recommends to back up each time the phone is plugged in.  Go 
figure!
I'm not happy about this at all, and I consider this to be very unfair by 
Apple!  I'm sure Apple also knows this, when people back up, eventually, we 
all will have to start paying them for more iCloud storage!  Can you imagine 
if all Apple users start paying even if it is $0.99 each month, how much 
more money that will be for Apple! $0.99 is not a big deal, it is the 
principal!

Sieghard, thank you for your opinions though, as it is greatly appreciated.
Janet

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

I would absolutely positively not turn off iCloud altogether on an iPhone 
and I would also not even turn off iCloud backups.
I assume Janet's problem is not because of backups but because other stuff 
is getting backed up to iCloud. You get 5 Gb of free iCloud storage and 
after that you have to purchase more, 50 Gb cost only 99 Cents a month in 
the US, in Canada it's $1.35 CAD.
Photos quickly can eat up your 5 Gb and videos do so even faster so you can 
always turn off iCloud Photo Library if that is not important to me.If you 
have more storage on Dropbox or OneDrive you can also enable Camera Roll on 
either one of these services and your pictures will get backed up there.
It's a simple thing to go to Settings > Your Account (at the very top) and 
then iCloud and to go through all the individual categories and to turn off 
the ones you don't want and leave the ones you want on.
Many apps use iCloud to sync content between iOS devices which are signed in 
to the same Apple ID and of course if you ever get a new iPhone or, 
hopefully this won't happen, you loose your iPhone, it is stolen or damaged 
beyond repair, having an iCloud backup and your Photos backed up to iCloud, 
OneDrive or Dropbox will be a life saver since all you have to do is to 
restore your new phone from your iCloud backup.
Yes, you can still use iTunes and a PC to back up your phone to the 

Question re Assistive touch menu

[Marie N.]

This can be a handy feature but how in the world do you get it to stay where 
you put it? It seems to jump up all over the place when you least expect or 
need it to do so. And when it grabs focus it is not always easy to move away. 
Should this be reported to Apple as a bug?

I'VE DECIDED I'M NOT OLD; I'M 25 PLUS SHIPPING AND HANDLING.

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Re: Talking Reminders

[Marie N.]

Oh, thanks so much. I tried over and over to delete it within the app and 
found it impossible even though I was told that was the way it had to be 
done. How simple this was.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Chaffin

Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Reminders


As far as canceling a recurring reminder on the echo, all you need to know 
is the time.  I just tried it on mine, and this is what I did.

1, Said, Lady A, cancel reminder at, and the time of the reminder.
2, Lady A will let you know that this is a recurring reminder, and ask you 
if you want to delete all occurrences, you just need to reply yes.

3, Lady A will then confirm that the reminder has been canceled.

Hope this helps.

Chris



On May 31, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Marie N.  wrote:

Now, can anyone tell me how to delete a recurring reminder that is set up? 
I have tried and failed so far.

Thanks


-Original Message- From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 1:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Reminders

Echo:
alexa, set a reminder.
A:  when do you want the reminder for?
Me:  tomorrow at 6am.
A:  tell me what the reminderis for;
Me:  get up and go for a walk.
A:  Ok, I'll remind you tomorrow at 6am to get up and go for a walk.

And she does.


- Original Message - From: "Sharonda Greenlaw" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: Talking Reminders


Thank you for your reply. Actually when the reminder is alarming, that’s 
when she wants to hear it say remind me to eat my lunch. Or
remind me to go to the store. Or it’s time to make that phone call. She 
doesn’t need to use her voice to set up the reminder. She
wants to hear a voice prompt when she is being reminded. I hope my 
explanation is better.


Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes


On May 30, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Sharonda,

You can use Siri to create reminders, so that's a way to set them up with 
your voice. Reminders play an alarm sound and then stop,

so you don't need to do anything when the alarms go off.

HTH,
Anna


On May 30, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw  
wrote:


Hello,
Does anyone know of a reminder app that you can use your voice? I'm
asking for a friend where she can use her voice when the alarm goes
off. Thanks so much.

--
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Twitter: shari_rocks
facebook.com/Sharonda.Greenlaw



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Re: Talking Reminders

[Marie N.]

Now, can anyone tell me how to delete a recurring reminder that is set up? I 
have tried and failed so far.

Thanks


-Original Message- 
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone

Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 1:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Reminders

Echo:
alexa, set a reminder.
A:  when do you want the reminder for?
Me:  tomorrow at 6am.
A:  tell me what the reminderis for;
Me:  get up and go for a walk.
A:  Ok, I'll remind you tomorrow at 6am to get up and go for a walk.

And she does.


- Original Message - 
From: "Sharonda Greenlaw" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: Talking Reminders


Thank you for your reply. Actually when the reminder is alarming, that’s 
when she wants to hear it say remind me to eat my lunch. Or
remind me to go to the store. Or it’s time to make that phone call. She 
doesn’t need to use her voice to set up the reminder. She
wants to hear a voice prompt when she is being reminded. I hope my 
explanation is better.


Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes


On May 30, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Sharonda,

You can use Siri to create reminders, so that's a way to set them up with 
your voice. Reminders play an alarm sound and then stop,

so you don't need to do anything when the alarms go off.

HTH,
Anna


On May 30, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw  
wrote:


Hello,
Does anyone know of a reminder app that you can use your voice? I'm
asking for a friend where she can use her voice when the alarm goes
off. Thanks so much.

--
Sharonda White
National Federation of the Blind of Iowa (NFBI)
--
Skype: sharonda2004
Twitter: shari_rocks
facebook.com/Sharonda.Greenlaw



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Re: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

[Marie N.]

Most likely you are already using ICloud unless you have manually turned it 
off. By default, Apple gives you 5GB free storage and it is mainly used for 
backups.



-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

Oh, I wonder if I'm better just keeping my feet on the ground and staying 
out of the cloud?


Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of janet gross

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 12:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

HI All,

I’m having a serious problem with iCloud.  I was getting messages from Apple 
saying I either have less than 50 percent space left, then I started getting 
messages from Apple saying I have less than 25 percent of space.  So, now 
when Apple sends out another update, I don’t even have enough space to 
update.  The apps I have on my phone is less than 1gig, so most of the space 
I have lost is due to the Apple updates, and now Apple wants me to pay each 
month for more space.  I’m not very happy about this at all.  I went to an 
Apple store several weeks ago, and the Apple rep told me not to use iCloud 
for back up, but to use my pc to back up instead, as this is what he does. 
The rep also told me each time my phone backs up, iCloud stores all those 
back ups on my phone.  If this is really the case, I think this is very 
unfair of Apple, but I just can’t imagine this.  Does anyone know if this is 
true?


Thank you all.

Janet





From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 10:49 PM
To: ViPhone List
Subject: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone



While most people use the feature all the time, you may want to turn off 
iCloud on your iPhone. Doing that is pretty simple, but turning off iCloud 
can have far-reaching implications for how you use your iPhone.



What iCloud Does When Turned On


The basic functions of the iCloud are pretty well known to most people: it's 
used to keep data in sync across all devices that are signed into the same 
iCloud account. That means that if you add a contact, update your calendar, 
or do any number of other things on your iPhone, that change will be 
automatically applied to your other iPhones, iPads, Macs, and other Apple 
devices.
But iCloud does a lot more than that, too. You can also use it to back up 
data from your devices to the cloud, to use Find My iPhone to track lost or 
stolen devices, to upload photos to your public Photo Stream, and to share 
your Safari usernames and passwords across devices, among other things. 
Signing into iCloud also signs you into other Apple services and feature, 
like FaceTime, iMessage, Game Center, and Siri Shortcuts, too.



Why You Might Want to Turn Off iCloud


Those all sound like pretty important features to use with your iPhone, 
right? They are, but you still might want to turn them off. For instance, 
you might not want to back up your iPhone data to iCloud or share your 
photos with the world. You might also want to prevent data from syncing from 
your iPhone to other devices. We don't recommend turning off iCloud — it has 
too many useful features, most importantly Find My iPhone — but there are 
good reasons to do it in some cases.



How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone


So, now that you know what turning off iCloud involves, just follow these 
steps to do it. These instructions apply to devices running iOS 10.3 or 
higher:


1. Tap the Settings app to open it.
2. Tap your name at the top of the Settings screen.
3. Scroll to the bottom of the screen. Tap Sign Out.
4. Enter your Apple ID when prompted and then tap Turn Off. This turns off 
Find My iPhone, which you have to do before you turn off iCloud.
5. Next, choose what data you want to keep a copy of on this iPhone. Move 
the slider to on/green for Calendars, Contacts, Keychain, Safari, and/or 
Stocks.

6. After this, tap Sign Out in the top right corner.
7. Tap Sign Out one more time and you'll finally be signed out of iCloud.

Tip: Remember, signing out of iCloud also signs you out of Find My iPhone, 
FaceTime, and iMessage. You can turn on FaceTime and iMessage individually, 
in those apps, and use a phone number with them instead of your iCloud 
account. Find My iPhone requires iCloud be turned on.



How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone on iOS 10.2 or Earlier


The steps for turning off iCloud in iOS 10.2 or earlier are a bit different:

1. Tap Settings.
2. Tap iCloud.
3. Tap Sign Out.
4. In the pop-up, tap Delete from My iPhone.
5. Choose the data you want to keep a copy of on your iPhone.
6. Enter your Apple ID when prompted.
7. Tap Turn Off to disable iCloud.


How to Turn off Individual iCloud Features on iPhone


What if you don't want to turn off all of iCloud, but just a few features? 
You can do that, too, by following these steps:


1. 

Re: Wi-Fi for calls.

[Marie N.]

I just set up WiFi calling and all I had to do was double tap on the picker 
and start flicking down to find my state.



-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi for calls.

I don't have any kind of keyboard. I might get the lady at our Enrichment 
Center, who helps people with phones to just do it for me. I don't like to 
do that, but sometimes, how much energy is something worth?


Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene

Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wi-Fi for calls.

Carolyn, if you have a bluetooth keyboard that will help you in selecting 
the state with the picker. You'll be able to arrow to the state. When Wayne 
tried selecting the state with his finger he couldn't get beyond co for 
colorado.


Arlene
- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi for calls.


Thanks. I would want both and will go back there again when finished with
emails.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wi-Fi for calls.

Carolyn, go into settings
then go to cellular
tap on cellular
then in there you'll have several things you can do. If you wanted too, you
could turn your cellular data completely off which would restrict your phone
to wifi. How ever, I like to keep the cellular data on and swipe over to wi
fi calling and enable it. You might have to go through settings to fill in
some information. With the wi fi enabled, if you had a weak signal you would
be using wi fi at home and when you would go out it would switch to cellular
data. It's good to have both on, since it will automatically switch for you.
If you just wanted to use wi fi you could just have the wi fi on.

Wayne
- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 7:33 PM
Subject: Wi-Fi for calls.



Where do you go to set that? I went to Wi-Fi, but I didn't
figure it out. I thought a long time back I did, but decided
not to try it. Now that I've been hearing that it's OK, I'm
willing to try it. Thanks for any help.

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Re: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

[Marie N.]

While it is true that your backups are store in ICloud, this is considered a 
protection in case you need to go back to a previous backup rather than the 
last one you performed. However you can go into the ICloud setting and delete 
any old backups you wish so that is your option and quite easy to do.


From: janet gross 
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

HI All, 

I’m having a serious problem with iCloud.  I was getting messages from Apple 
saying I either have less than 50 percent space left, then I started getting 
messages from Apple saying I have less than 25 percent of space.  So, now when 
Apple sends out another update, I don’t even have enough space to update.  The 
apps I have on my phone is less than 1gig, so most of the space I have lost is 
due to the Apple updates, and now Apple wants me to pay each month for more 
space.  I’m not very happy about this at all.  I went to an Apple store several 
weeks ago, and the Apple rep told me not to use iCloud for back up, but to use 
my pc to back up instead, as this is what he does.  The rep also told me each 
time my phone backs up, iCloud stores all those back ups on my phone.  If this 
is really the case, I think this is very unfair of Apple, but I just can’t 
imagine this.  Does anyone know if this is true? 

Thank you all. 

Janet 

 

 

From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 10:49 PM
To: ViPhone List
Subject: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

 

While most people use the feature all the time, you may want to turn off iCloud 
on your iPhone. Doing that is pretty simple, but turning off iCloud can have 
far-reaching implications for how you use your iPhone.

What iCloud Does When Turned On 
The basic functions of the iCloud are pretty well known to most people: it's 
used to keep data in sync across all devices that are signed into the same 
iCloud account. That means that if you add a contact, update your calendar, or 
do any number of other things on your iPhone, that change will be automatically 
applied to your other iPhones, iPads, Macs, and other Apple devices.
But iCloud does a lot more than that, too. You can also use it to back up data 
from your devices to the cloud, to use Find My iPhone to track lost or stolen 
devices, to upload photos to your public Photo Stream, and to share your Safari 
usernames and passwords across devices, among other things. Signing into iCloud 
also signs you into other Apple services and feature, like FaceTime, iMessage, 
Game Center, and Siri Shortcuts, too.

Why You Might Want to Turn Off iCloud 
Those all sound like pretty important features to use with your iPhone, right? 
They are, but you still might want to turn them off. For instance, you might 
not want to back up your iPhone data to iCloud or share your photos with the 
world. You might also want to prevent data from syncing from your iPhone to 
other devices. We don't recommend turning off iCloud — it has too many useful 
features, most importantly Find My iPhone — but there are good reasons to do it 
in some cases.

How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone 
So, now that you know what turning off iCloud involves, just follow these steps 
to do it. These instructions apply to devices running iOS 10.3 or higher:

  1.. Tap the Settings app to open it. 
  2.. Tap your name at the top of the Settings screen. 
  3.. Scroll to the bottom of the screen. Tap Sign Out. 
  4.. Enter your Apple ID when prompted and then tap Turn Off. This turns off 
Find My iPhone, which you have to do before you turn off iCloud. 
  5.. Next, choose what data you want to keep a copy of on this iPhone. Move 
the slider to on/green for Calendars, Contacts, Keychain, Safari, and/or 
Stocks. 
  6.. After this, tap Sign Out in the top right corner. 
  7.. Tap Sign Out one more time and you'll finally be signed out of iCloud.
Tip: Remember, signing out of iCloud also signs you out of Find My iPhone, 
FaceTime, and iMessage. You can turn on FaceTime and iMessage individually, in 
those apps, and use a phone number with them instead of your iCloud account. 
Find My iPhone requires iCloud be turned on.

How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone on iOS 10.2 or Earlier 
The steps for turning off iCloud in iOS 10.2 or earlier are a bit different:

  1.. Tap Settings. 
  2.. Tap iCloud. 
  3.. Tap Sign Out. 
  4.. In the pop-up, tap Delete from My iPhone. 
  5.. Choose the data you want to keep a copy of on your iPhone. 
  6.. Enter your Apple ID when prompted. 
  7.. Tap Turn Off to disable iCloud.
How to Turn off Individual iCloud Features on iPhone 
What if you don't want to turn off all of iCloud, but just a few features? You 
can do that, too, by following these steps:

  1.. Tap Settings. 
  2.. On iOS 10.3 or higher, tap your name. On iOS 10.2 or lower, skip this 
step. 
  3.. Tap iCloud. 
  4.. On the screen that lists all of the iCloud features, disable the ones you 

Re: addendum to the theme question

[Marie N.]

Thanks for putting this just as I was thinking. I don’t understand why so many 
long irritating threads are devoted to putting down the “other guy”.
In addition it was not meant as a chance to tell us how we could have had this 
freedom via a different method, i.e. a PC.

From: Christopher Chaltain 
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: addendum to the theme question

My point isn't that other platforms don't have their issues, but rather that 
this thread was supposed to be about how beneficial Apple devices have been to 
people since their introduction. I saw this as a feel good thread where people 
could share their experiences on the greater independence they now have due to 
the iPhone and related apps and services. I didn't see this as an opportunity 
to knock every other platform out there. I use Windows, IOS, Linux and Android, 
and although I know the limitations of the various platforms, I don't go out of 
my way to find opportunities to knock each platform. As I said below, I can 
appreciate everything Apple has done and the iPhone has done for me without 
tearing down every other platform out there.






On 5/27/19 5:56 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

  Lol. I'd actually love to be able to say with certainty, that Android and 
Linux are wonderful platforms for the blind. I've used both for at least half  
a year. I just don't subscribe to the notion that we should have to work around 
every little inaccessible app made by Google, and use another desktop on Linux 
because KDE is barely accessible now, and Gnome has a huge accessibility 
problem, that you cannot change settings in the settings center. Imagine having 
those problems on Apple products, mail, messages, TTS, and the keyboard being 
inferior on iOS. Sure, third-party options, even Eloquence, but I love the fact 
about Apple devices, that you can get along very well without even having to 
buy that $13 onscreen braille keyboard on Android.


  Sent from my iPhone

  On May 26, 2019, at 11:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


There’s got to be a party pooper in every crowd, what I wonder is why Devon 
is even on this list since he seems to be included in the “we Android users”, 
oh right, his signature is “Sent from my iPhone”.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Devin Prater 
Subject: Re: addendum to the theme question

 

It's a shame this thread couldn't just be about everything that's good 
about the iPhone but has to be used by some to bash anything not Apple. I can 
certainly give Apple the credit it's do without bashing Microsoft, Google and 
Linux. I guess some also just don't realize that when you trash a product you 
don't choose to use yourself you're also putting down all of those people who 
didn't make the same choice you did.

 

 

On 5/26/19 1:48 PM, Devin Prater wrote:

  Gosh yes! And Android users have to pay like $12 for a braille keyboard 
that is maintained and kept up to date... for now... lol. We get all these, the 
vocalizer voices, and Apple's *high quality* Siri voices, all free!

   

  Sent from my iPhone


  On May 26, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan 
 wrote:

One thing I completely forgot to mention in my earlier post is that 
there are so many ways of inputting information into the phone, sending texts 
or sending emails.  One can use hand writing although since I’m totally blind I 
don’t use that feature, still it’s available for those who might want to use 
it.  In adition, MBraille and the native Braille screen input, dictation, the 
onscreen keyboard and using a separate Braille or quarty keyboard are all 
available.  It’s so very cool that apple provides options for all of these 
methods. 

God bless!

Paula and Garçon 

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Re: Headers In Folders

[Marie N.]

I have the exact same issue here. I recently re-named a folder from 
entertainment to Spectrum. Now when I open other folders, the word Spectrum is 
spoken before the name of the folder I am opening. The same thing has occurred 
with other folders that I named. When just going to the icon of the folder I 
did not name the word Spectrum is not spoken, only when I open it.
Very curious.


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Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 5:53 PM
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Subject: Re: Headers In Folders

Hello,

As far as I know, there's only one edit box associated with each folder, and 
the name of the folder goes in that box. I'm not sure what you mean by a folder 
header other than the folder title.

Best,
Anna





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  recently, I changed the header in one of my folders. Now the change shows up 
in other holder heading. I tried to change the heading, but it kept putting me 
in the folder title. There was a way to edit the folder headings without 
changing the folder name itself. Can anyone help me with this?

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WiFi calling

[Marie N.]

I have a fairly poor cell signal in my home and too often have calls dropped. I 
have Verizon and outside my little neighborhood the coverage is excellent. I 
would like some opinions about using WiFi calling to improve this. I admit that 
I know little about the feature so any help will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Marie

I just did a week's worth of cardio after walking into a spider web ...

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Re: Theme Question: In What Ways Have Apple Products, or Their Related Third-Party Apps, Increased Your Level of Personal Independence?

[Marie N.]

You missed some of my points. The good thing about apps like Be my Eyes is 
that you can use them when you want and not when a sighted person has the 
time to help. I live alone and am totally blind so this is important to me.
And yes I can call a taxi whenever I wish but they are not going to assist 
you to the door of the restaurant or hair salon, etc. Here where I live many 
of the drivers are not exactly friendly the cars are not clean and so on. 
The Uber and Lyft cars I have been in are clean and comfortable, and the 
drivers are great, very helpful and friendly so I am much more inclined to 
get out and about.They are also cheaper.
I am not for one minute refuting the wonderful things that the computer and 
a good screen reader have brought to my life, but the IPhone has brought 
additional benefits.


-Original Message- 
From: Gordan Radić

Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 3:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Theme Question: In What Ways Have Apple Products, or Their 
Related Third-Party Apps, Increased Your Level of Personal Independence?


Hi to you and everyone!

I read Marks post as I read some others and I guess I didn't put my
thouhts as good as I could.

I never meant to say that iPhone or other apple products are not helping
us, I just wanted to say we could do some thins long before they came in
the scene. Guess some of us just forgot it and some of us just started
with that and that's OK.

I just couldn't pass by some comments like "I could finally browse the
web" or, like you said, "Apps like Lift and Uber change my life". Well,
as I remember, cab services were just accessible to us before iPhones.
You just needed to pick up your landphone, call the number and request a
car. We could do that in 50s and 60s just as easy we can do that now
using the cab service apps.

Apps like Be my Eyes are no different than asking for help from your
family, relatives or friends. It's just you can ask it remotely from
other people aswell but asking for help is still asking for help. And to
be completely honest, apps like Be my Eyes aren't Apples idea, they're
result of some blind people who found the way to use the modern
technology for our needs.

Since Mark didn't intent to put my stand for the debate I'll stop right
here but I'd really like if this community would atleast give some
thought what was really a life changers and what was just the
advancement on existing solutions.


S poštovanjem

Gordan Radić

26.05.2019 u 6:08, Marie N. je napisao/la:
Although I agree with some of your statements and I am a daily user of the 
Windows PC, there are things that I can do with the IPhone which I can not 
do as easily on the computer.
The first and for me the thing which has really given me an independence 
that I never had before are the Lyft and Uber apps. I now go out to lunch 
or shopping and to medical appointments, etc. totally on my own and can do 
these on the spur of the moment. No more having to ask friends or family 
or to make arrangements a day or two in advance with a para transit 
service.
2. Being able to set up a calendar event while I am out and not near a 
computer.
3. Be My Eyes has helped with many things I would have had to get with a 
sighted person at their convenience. And that includes problems with the 
computer when we can't read what is on the screen.
4. KNFB and now the scanner app are so quick and easy when you are not 
sitting at your computer desk or not even in your house.
5. The seeing AI lets me sort through my mail so quickly and with no 
assistance and the money reader keeps me from having to worry about what 
bills I have when I go out.
There are indeed many things I will always prefer to do on the computer 
but I do love the portability of the IPhone and being able to have both it 
and my PC.

Marie

-Original Message- From: Gordan Radić
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Theme Question: In What Ways Have Apple Products, or Their 
Related Third-Party Apps, Increased Your Level of Personal Independence?


Hi to all!

I hope i won't be a party breaker but I read some emails on the subjectt
and I can't agree with most mentioned.

Just to refresh your memory, before iPhone got Voice Over there was a
tiny little thing called Symbian, it was used on the Nokia smartphones
and there were two screen readers called Talks and Mobile Speak.

So, basic things such as calling, keeping up with the contacts,
messaging, mailing, calendar, alarms, reading caller ID and even web
browsing was available to the blind community times before first iOS
with voice over.

There wee also music and book players on those old Nokia phones. There
were also social media apps and some other things but they weren't
accessible with screen readers but, it's not Nokia or Symbian fault,
it's the developers thing. We hame the same problems on iOS acasionally.

Things we couldn't do on the phone we could do on our PC

Re: Theme Question: In What Ways Have Apple Products, or Their Related Third-Party Apps, Increased Your Level of Personal Independence?

[Marie N.]

Although I agree with some of your statements and I am a daily user of the 
Windows PC, there are things that I can do with the IPhone which I can not 
do as easily on the computer.
The first and for me the thing which has really given me an independence 
that I never had before are the Lyft and Uber apps. I now go out to lunch or 
shopping and to medical appointments, etc. totally on my own and can do 
these on the spur of the moment. No more having to ask friends or family or 
to make arrangements a day or two in advance with a para transit service.
2. Being able to set up a calendar event while I am out and not near a 
computer.
3. Be My Eyes has helped with many things I would have had to get with a 
sighted person at their convenience. And that includes problems with the 
computer when we can't read what is on the screen.
4. KNFB and now the scanner app are so quick and easy when you are not 
sitting at your computer desk or not even in your house.
5. The seeing AI lets me sort through my mail so quickly and with no 
assistance and the money reader keeps me from having to worry about what 
bills I have when I go out.
There are indeed many things I will always prefer to do on the computer but 
I do love the portability of the IPhone and being able to have both it and 
my PC.

Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Gordan Radić

Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Theme Question: In What Ways Have Apple Products, or Their 
Related Third-Party Apps, Increased Your Level of Personal Independence?


Hi to all!

I hope i won't be a party breaker but I read some emails on the subjectt
and I can't agree with most mentioned.

Just to refresh your memory, before iPhone got Voice Over there was a
tiny little thing called Symbian, it was used on the Nokia smartphones
and there were two screen readers called Talks and Mobile Speak.

So, basic things such as calling, keeping up with the contacts,
messaging, mailing, calendar, alarms, reading caller ID and even web
browsing was available to the blind community times before first iOS
with voice over.

There wee also music and book players on those old Nokia phones. There
were also social media apps and some other things but they weren't
accessible with screen readers but, it's not Nokia or Symbian fault,
it's the developers thing. We hame the same problems on iOS acasionally.

Things we couldn't do on the phone we could do on our PCs. I don't know
when exactly Mac got usable Voice Over support but Jaws, Window Eyes,
Hal and NVDA are on Windows based PCs for ages. Almost everything
mentioned in previous mails was possible for us allthe time and if you
ask me, even more than on the iProducts. With all dued respect, I still
regularly use my Windows PC for tones of tasks I can do on my phone.

So, I can't say that iOS and iDevices in general are not great, they
really are but we can't say we didn't live before them. Apple took us to
the next level with mobility because we don't need to carry our laptops
or whatever with us and we can do things on our iPhones on the go but we
were able to do things before iOS with Voice over.


S poštovanjem

Gordan Radić

25.05.2019 u 19:49, Paul and Paula Jordan je napisao/la:
I was the one who swore I didn't want an IPhone no matter what. That was 
when the 4S had just come out.  I have had a 7 for the last 2-1/2 years so 
that in itself says something. Hard to narrow down to 5 things even with 
some honorable mentions, but I'll give it a try. In no particular order:


1.  the ability to do some things that would otherwise require sighted 
help:  BE MY EYES,  and VOICE DREAM SCANNER to name just two.
2.  The ability to send text messages to keep in touch with others when 
I'm not sure they are able to take a phone call, or when I just want to 
leave a brief message.

3.  Ability to schedule appointments on a calendar immediately.
4.  Keeping track of where I am either walking or riding a bus or 
paratransit:  BLIND SQUARE OR NEARBY EXPLORER.

5. Playing games on my phone just for fun.

Honorable mentions:  1. Shopping with the SHIPT app and perusing websites 
like Chewy at my leisure.
2.  Watching TV using the spectrum app even when I don't have a TV right 
where I am whether outside or in a different room from the set.

3.  Quickly finding business phone numbers or addresses.
4.  Using UBER instead of a taxi since they are quicker, I can contact the 
driver directly whether than a dispatcher,  and they are often cheaper.

God bless!

I'm sure there are more, but that's a good start. Paula and Garçon
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of M. Taylor

Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Theme Question: In What Ways Have Apple Products, or Their 
Related Third-Party Apps, Increased Your Level of Personal Independence?


Hello Everyone,

What are the 5 most significant ways that iOS, Watch 

Re: Power beats pro review

[Marie N.]

LOL! we were both wrong and you are right. I never even thought about the 
microphones.
Marie


From: Keith Bierman 
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Power beats pro review



On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 7:15 PM Michael Amaro  wrote:

  my apology I did indeed mean a reciever

  ...

  Re an earlier question: they would have a receiver, not a transmitter. And 
probably built into the earpieces.


Actually, since each earpiece operates independently ... with speaker and 
microphone on each side ... both right and left have both a receiver and 
transmitter built in. Like the new generation of airpods, Apple's H1 chip 
provides the bluetooth (5.0) logic (receiver and transmitter), synchronization, 
 power management and etc.
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Re: Power beats pro review

[Marie N.]

Re an earlier question: they would have a receiver, not a transmitter. And 
probably built into the earpieces.

From: KliphnShari Miller 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 7:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Power beats pro review

No cracking mic here 



  On May 20, 2019, at 2:03 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

  I have the Plantronics Backbeat Fit 3100s and these sound similar. I love the 
ear hooks, but like most headsets of this type, they have that crappy mic.

  Andy

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Amaro
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: Power beats pro review

I assume that they come with a transmitter?  If so, does it hang outside 
the ear?

From: KliphnShari Miller
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 1:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Power beats pro review

There not very big at all.  Most people don’t even know that I have them in 
until I tell them.  The charging case is slightly bigger than most think it 
should be, but that’s because of the hooks.  Personally the hooks was my 
selling point, and they are very comfortable.



  On May 19, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

  How big are they?
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
KliphnShari Miller
  Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 3:06 PM
  Subject: Power beats pro review
   
  I usually don’t write reviews.  But these Power beats Pro are so good, I 
have to let others know. Let me start by saying I am not a beats fan.  I prefer 
bose, or generic knockoff models with long battery life.  The thing that has 
turned me off from beats in the past was the wire going between each earbud.  
So when apple announced “power beats pro truly wireless” I immediately became 
interested.  I hate wires, there always getting tangled up and over time become 
unusable.  These power beats pro  bring a new life to music.  I almost never 
listened to music with the apple wired ear pods that came with each iPhone, 
sound was poor at best.  Plus wires always were tangled.  The power beats pro 
come ready to use.  There is a hook that goes around the back of your ear, and 
yes the tip goes in your ear, but its so soft and comfortable that you barely 
notice it is there. If the tip is to large or small, there are 3 other sizes to 
choose from in the box.  You open the case, and a message appears on your 
device asking if you would like to connect.  It also gives you the battery 
percentage of each ear, as well as the case.  In some reviews, they say the 
case is to large.  It is a big case, but the headset needs room to charge and 
not be damaged, especially the hooks, wouldn’t want those to get bent up. So i 
understand. Plus, with the way my wife loses her airpods case, because she just 
tosses it in her purse, this case being a bit large will benefit her. Music 
sounds excellent!  Base is balance and not overwhelming.  I here sounds and 
instruments that I had never heard before in some of my favorite songs.  I 
listened to some classics.  Easy byLionel Richie, en of the road by boys 2 men, 
some 2Pac classics, Kieth Sweat, even some New edition favs with some 70 and 
60’s mixed in.  Hey siri works flawlessly!  When using hey siri, I didn’t have 
to yell.  A quiet voice still prompted siri and she did everything I asked.  
Sports scores, wether, battery percentage, even sent my eldest daughter a text. 
 Dictation no issues at all.  And skipping back and forward between songs is 
also easy.  Both earbuds have the same set of controls, volume up and down, and 
the side button used for answering and hanging up calls, and playing music.  I 
am not even a audio book fan, but can’t wait to listen to some on this pair of 
power beats pro.  Battery life, all I can say is wow!  Apple advertises 9 
hours, each ear, and 9 hours is what you get.  I tested this at work listening 
to music and movies, and it lasted 9 hours 3 minutes. The 2nd time I drained 
the battery I got 9 hours 18 minutes. So in this case, you are getting what you 
pay for. Even caught myself dancing a few times cause the sound when playing 
music sounds so good!
  Apple’s own AirPods can’t touch these beats, the battery life alone was 
enough to make me want to try them.  And the sound quality is 2nd to none.  If 
someone says there airpods are better then power beats pro, then they haven’t 
even tried them.

  To wrap this up, this is the best headset I have ever used.  They sound 
so good, if I had the money all my closest friends and family would have a set, 
already ordered my wife some before she steels mine lol.  If you buy these, you 
will not regret it.

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Re: announce time every 15 minutes??

[Marie N.]

LOL! I am retired and if my phone gave me the time every fifteen minutes, I 
might just shoot myself! I might even pay not to have an app that did this.

Hahaha!
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: announce time every 15 minutes??

If we are talking about the one from Blacktree, I have it on an 8 plus and 
it has worked flawlessly for at least the last year.

I have it set to speak the time every 15 minutes from 7:30 AM to 6 PM.

Richard


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: announce time every 15 minutes??

I've had the Chime app for years. It's last update was in 2015. It hasn't 
worked well on the phones in our household in about 3 years I'd say. Misses 
about half of the announcements and sometimes stops working altogether. This 
was never the case prior, but they've not kept up with the newer OS's. Since 
this has been my experience with a few phones, I assume it's the app and not 
the phones. So although it's free, it's not necessarily reliable. I wish it 
were, because I really liked it.



On 5/19/19, Richard Turner  wrote:

It will do whatever you want.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: announce time every 15 minutes??

will that give voices or just a chime?

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Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 4:09 PM
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Subject: Re: announce time every 15 minutes??


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On May 19, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Juliette Swiler
mailto:juliette.swi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I use an app called Chime.
Juliette


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: announce time every 15 minutes??

Hi, I had an app called Timely for a few years.  The App is no longer
available.  Does anyone have an App 

Re: does anyone know how?

[Marie N.]

On my X it is right below the Date and above the camera


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: does anyone know how?

I run iOS 12.3, I usually run whatever is the latest Beta, in the case of 12.3 
I received the official release yesterday as well since apparently it changed 
from the last public beta release. I do, however, not have an iPhone XR or XS, 
but an iPhone 8. Maybe it is not on the older phones, where exactly on the lock 
screen is this supposed to be? If I press the side button to wake up my phone I 
have the following:

 

The time is announced and currently if I swipe left I can’t go any further than 
9:41 AM

If I swipe right I hear Wednesday, May 15, 2019

If I swipe right again I get “Press Home to Unlock button

Then another swipe right gets me Page 2 of 3

That is the last element on the screen.

If I go to Page 3 of 3 it is my Camera screen and Page 1 of 3 is the Today 
screen.

If I tap on “Press Home to Unlock” I get the “Touch Id or enter passcode”, 
there is the passcode field where it says 0 of 6 values entered, the keypad is 
on the screen and the only other button I see is the Emergency button on the 
bottom left of the keypad.

My wife who is sighted and who also has an iPhone 8 just confirmed the same, 
the only Flashlight button she has is in the Control Centre.

I guess if there is a flashlight button on the lock screen on the XR then it’s 
an XR feature and since there was no iOS 11 any more when the XR came out the 
iOS version shouldn’t matter unless the original iPhone X which was released in 
the fall of 2017 together with iOS 11 had the flashlight button and it could be 
disabled.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Bierman
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: does anyone know how?

 

in iOS 11 this could be disabled. In iOS 12 it seems not.

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/308344/how-to-remove-flashlight-from-iphone-x-lock-screen

 

I don't understand Sieghard's claim that it isn't part of his lockscreen 
(unless he's running iOS 11 and disabled 3d touch). it certainly is on all my 
families phones.

 

 

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 10:05 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

  Hi Chris,

   

  I am a bit confused here, I don’t have either Flashlight nor Camera on the 
lock screen. The Camera can be accessed from the lock screen if you do a 
3-finger swipe from right to left, but even then there is no Flashlight unless 
maybe you have the camera’s flash turned on permanently which of course you can 
change, you can set it to come on automatically or not at all.

  The actual Flashlight as far as I know can only be turned on either by asking 
SIRI or by swiping up to the Control Centre and then you do of course have both 
the camera and flashlight buttons there. Do you maybe mean the Control Centre 
instead of the lock screen?

  As far as the Control Centre is concerned you can in fact decide what is on 
it or not, just go to Settings > Control Centre > Customize Controls and select 
or deselect the items you want or do not want. You can definitely take the 
f;lashlight and camera off if they are on the Control Centre.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 8:34 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: does anyone know how?

   

  Hello folks,

  Does anyone know how to remove the flash light and the camera buttons from 
the locked phone screen?  As you know, when the phone is locked, the flash 
light and the camera buttons are still accessible.  I do not want them to be 
there.  Very often, as I put the phone in my pocket, my finger touches one of 
them by mistake and activates it. That drains my phone battery out.  The other 
day while I was in the train in the underground, Someone alerted me that my 
phone flash light is on because he can see strong light coming out of my 
pocket.  It was funny in a way, but also annoying.  

  I looked through all the phone’s settings to see if I can remove these 
buttons but I was not able to locate the setting to hide these buttons from the 
locked screen.

   

  If anyone knows how, I will extremely appreciate it.

   

  Regards,

   

   

   

  Cris

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Re: Beta program

[Marie N.]

After removing the profile and turning off Find My IPhone, is it possible to 
install the non-beta IOS without using ITunes? 

From: Anna Dresner 
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 10:39 AM
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Subject: Re: Beta program

Hello Marie, 

Go to Settings/Genera/Profiles, and uninstall it. Then turn off iCloud and Find 
My iPHone, and do the restore using iTunes as described in an earlier message.

Best,
Anna



  On May 9, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Marie N.  wrote:

  Okay I got that but how do I delete the profile?


  From: Gordon
  Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 8:16 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Beta program

  If you are in the beta and wish to go back to the most recent stable build 
you would have to delete the profile and connect to iTunes to go back. If 
you're just trying to get out of the beta you would just delete the profile and 
wait for the next stable build to come out. 

  On 5/9/2019 10:12 AM, Marie N. wrote:

And do you delete the profile on the phone or on the web site?


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 10:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beta program

I thought all you have to do to get out of Beta is to delete the 
provisioning profile and then do a check for updates. I don’t think you have to 
hook your phone up to a computer and force it into recovery mode and all that.
 
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Marie N.
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 8:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beta program
 
This makes good sense and thanks.
 
From: Aleeha Dudley 
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 8:23 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Re: Beta program
 
Hi,  
I would strongly recommend installing the latest non-beta iOS onto the 
phone. You can do this by putting the phone in recovery mode, connecting it to 
a computer, and allowing it to download the latest software. This will reset 
the phone to defaults at the same time. Just be sure to sign out of Find my 
iPhone and your Apple ID first.
HTH,
Aleeha 



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Re: Using Uber app

[Marie N.]

If the driver does not call me by name when he or she arrives, I always ask 
them their name before entering the vehicle. Calling is probably the easiest 
way to contact the driver to give them information but Uber can now display a 
text for them with responses already set up so they can reply safely.
I use both Lyft and Uber quite often and enjoy the service very much.
Marie


From: Bill Outman 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Using Uber app

Okay.  

 

Jennie’s observation about the menu button was correc, and I got the check card 
updated.  

 

What I am wondering is if I can now close the app until I am ready to order my 
trip tonight.  If I do, will I have to sign in with my password again?  

 

My trip plan is to order a trip home from the local minor league baseball game 
I will be attending, which in the past I would have taken a cab home from, as 
it is after hours for my residence on paratransit.  

 

I figured this would be a good opportunity to do an actual trip, as I would 
have the advantage of others around me if I needed help.  My biggest fear has 
been identifying the driver, being a total, though I understand there is a way 
to call or text from within the app; calling has been the consensus on this 
list.  

 

I know the Where To button is where to start an order.  I may play around in 
that menu this afternoon before leaving for the game.  I have paratransit on 
the way to the ballpark.  

 

Bill Outman 

Daytona Beach, Florida 

 

 

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Re: Beta program

[Marie N.]

Okay I got that but how do I delete the profile?


From: Gordon 
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Beta program

If you are in the beta and wish to go back to the most recent stable build you 
would have to delete the profile and connect to iTunes to go back. If you're 
just trying to get out of the beta you would just delete the profile and wait 
for the next stable build to come out. 


On 5/9/2019 10:12 AM, Marie N. wrote:

  And do you delete the profile on the phone or on the web site?


  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 10:15 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Beta program

  I thought all you have to do to get out of Beta is to delete the provisioning 
profile and then do a check for updates. I don’t think you have to hook your 
phone up to a computer and force it into recovery mode and all that.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Marie N.
  Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 8:35 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Beta program

   

  This makes good sense and thanks.

   

  From: Aleeha Dudley 

  Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 8:23 PM

  To: viPhone 

  Subject: Re: Beta program

   

  Hi,  

  I would strongly recommend installing the latest non-beta iOS onto the phone. 
You can do this by putting the phone in recovery mode, connecting it to a 
computer, and allowing it to download the latest software. This will reset the 
phone to defaults at the same time. Just be sure to sign out of Find my iPhone 
and your Apple ID first.

  HTH,

  Aleeha 





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I have a 6S on the IPhone beta program. I am considering selling the phone 
so I need to know if I need to sign out of the program before re-setting the 
phone? 

 

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Re: Beta program

[Marie N.]

And do you delete the profile on the phone or on the web site?


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 10:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Beta program

I thought all you have to do to get out of Beta is to delete the provisioning 
profile and then do a check for updates. I don’t think you have to hook your 
phone up to a computer and force it into recovery mode and all that.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 8:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beta program

 

This makes good sense and thanks.

 

From: Aleeha Dudley 

Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 8:23 PM

To: viPhone 

Subject: Re: Beta program

 

Hi,  

I would strongly recommend installing the latest non-beta iOS onto the phone. 
You can do this by putting the phone in recovery mode, connecting it to a 
computer, and allowing it to download the latest software. This will reset the 
phone to defaults at the same time. Just be sure to sign out of Find my iPhone 
and your Apple ID first.

HTH,

Aleeha 





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Re: Beta program

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This makes good sense and thanks.

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Subject: Re: Beta program

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You can do this by putting the phone in recovery mode, connecting it to a 
computer, and allowing it to download the latest software. This will reset the 
phone to defaults at the same time. Just be sure to sign out of Find my iPhone 
and your Apple ID first.
HTH,
Aleeha 



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  I have a 6S on the IPhone beta program. I am considering selling the phone so 
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Beta program

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I have a 6S on the IPhone beta program. I am considering selling the phone so I 
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Re: net flix

[Marie N.]

Personally, I am very appreciative of the movies and TV series which I can now 
get with Audio description. This was so limited just a few years back and I 
would think it pretty involved to get the additional sound track for this 
service.
My local movie theater now has AD for all movies and the headphones to access 
it so I can now enjoy going to the movies without having anyone try to help me 
follow the story. Why can’t we all just be appreciative for the many 
improvements made for a very minority group?
Lately all the movies I have purchased from Apple are described, all Netflix 
originals are described and Blind Mice Mega Mall has a large collection of 
sound tracks in MP3 format.
In addition we have a plethora of audio books to enjoy.


JMO
From: Laury, Shawnese (LARA) 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: net flix

This is better than not having anything 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2019, at 3:02 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:


  I suppose it's not a lot, but when I go to 
http://www.acb.org/adp/netflixad.html

  I see about 1,000 movies and series on Netflix with described video.



  On 2/11/19 12:44 AM, Robert Wright wrote:

Basically you will have to play it. You can search for described or audio 
described and hope for the best. There are not a lot of choices and even fewer 
family friendly movies available.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Laury, Shawnese (LARA)
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 8:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: net flix

 

I called them about no longer having a separate category for audio 
descriptive movies. I was told by the rep. that there were upgrades and it is 
no longer set up that way. She tried explaining to me how to tell if the movie 
I select has audio description but it didn’t make sense to me. It sounded like 
you select the movie first and then you will then need to do something else to 
find out if it has audio description. 

 

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Re: To AppleCare or not....that is the question

[Marie N.]

Perhaps I have just been lucky but I have been using IPhones since 2010 and 
never purchased Apple Care. Nor have I ever needed it. So I have saved enough 
to buy two more phones with the money I did not give to Apple. I take great 
care and have not gotten a lemon so far.


From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 3:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: To AppleCare or notthat is the question

Hi,

 

I have always routinely purchased AppleCare, but have never really had any 
reason to use it.

 

I still have a few weeks before the deadline for purchasing AppleCare for my XS.

 

I’m curious how others on this list are viewing AppleCare.

 

Any thoughts appreciated.

 

Best, Keith

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Re: Aware mode

[Marie N.]

It is in the settings for Face Id. When you use this you look directly at the 
screen and it give the phone the ability to use your eyes to identify you 
faster. I tried Face ID with and without Aware and found it works more 
consistently with Aware on.


From: Kevin Minor 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Aware mode

Hi.

 

Could someone tell me where aware mode is and what it does?  I sometimes use 
face ID, but it’s hit and miss, and I often have to just enter my pass code.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin Minor and my Seeing Eye dog, the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY

 

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Wright
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 5:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Aware mode

 

Hmm I’ve never heard of it. I have not had a problem with Face ID and I am 
totally blind.

 

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From: Michael Maslo
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Aware mode

 

Hello list,

 

I was wondering if anyone else uses the aware bore on facial identification? I 
use it and most times I have no problem with unlocking my phone.

 

Star just was wondering if anyone else has this feature on and their success 
rate.

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

Sincerely,

 

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Re: An Aria Update

[Marie N.]

This post is offensive and totally uncalled for. The message was, in my 
opinion,  a promotion of Aira.



-Original Message- 
From: Reg Sullivan

Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 6:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aria Update

One of my favorite lines is "you chose to cut off the hand that feeds you"
Mark, I am so surprised that as one entrusted in a leadership position of a 
list that educates it's followers on Iphone related apps that make life 
easier for those of us who choose to subscribe to them that you would feel 
threatened by Jonathan's good intentions.Jonathan made his career 
educating all of us on new ideas and concepts through his pod casts and 
charged pennies for it.
Promoting Aira  in this way will lead to broader acceptance of the product 
among the blindness community and greater value for all of us in the long 
run.


It's time for you to resign your post as moderator of this list and time for 
those of us wanting open communication without barriers to move over to the 
BlindPhone list!



Thank you to everyone who contributed to my tech development with your posts 
to this list.


RegardsReg


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Rash

Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update

Jonathan:
I've been on this list as long as you have.  I appreciate and have learned 
much from you and other contributors to the list.

Computers and iPhones are great.  They even come wih delete keys.
I'll be joining the blind phones list.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update

Hi Mark and everyone. Given this new policy, I'll be unsubscribing after 
around 9 years on the group, but I want to express my disappointment about 
this change.
During Cara's excellent and even-handed leadership of this group, we had 
many occasions where app developers would engage with us about their apps, 
especially when those apps were blindness specific.
Since this particular app was one that has come up here on multiple 
occasions, with some mentioning it as one of their top apps of 2018, it 
seemed appropriate, on-topic, and of value to interested members to let them 
know about recent developments, especially a free trial. This has been 
welcomed on other groups.
It's a difficult and false distinction to separate the app from the service, 
when the app is the vehicle for that service.
Further, the service itself would in the past have been considered on-topic, 
because one uses it on an iPhone and it is blindness specific.
Anyway, I've learned a great deal over the last 9 years, so thanks to 
everyone for that.
Should you wish to be on a group where app developers and users can freely 
interact, you're welcome to join my BlindPhones list, which covers both iOS 
and Android. If an app developer wishes to take time to engage, they are 
welcomed with open arms.

blindphones+subscr...@groups.io.
And of course as has been already pointed out in this thread, there's an 
Aira group too.

Thanks all.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training http://www.mosen.org

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update

I see your point, Andy.  Be that as it may, any new service being offered to 
our community, is always appreciated.


However, and this is to everyone, the iOS app only, is to be discussed on 
this list.  Any questions regarding the service, itself, to be taken 
off-list, immediately.


Thank you all for observing this policy.

Moderator Mark


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Andy Baracco

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update

I didn't know that ads were allowed on this list.

Andy

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: An Aira Update



Hello,

I'm curious. What things can the service not be used for?


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Hi all. Since the middle of October, I've been Aira's VP of Explorer
communications. Since Aira has an iOS app, I thought the following info
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Re: The End Of Apple, Forbes Magazine

[Marie N.]

I am sorry to dispute what you say but I have a friend who had until very 
recently used a Galaxy S5 which was so slow it was driving him crazy. When 
he got his hands on a newer Android he could hardly believe the difference 
in the speed.
I have owned IPhones for around eight years and as far as I can tell, all 
smart phones are faster now because of the improved processors and it makes 
the older phones seem even slower.I can believe that the older phones do 
lose some of their performance just like a computer but the newer, faster 
processors are a major factor in the newer phones.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Brett

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Gordon ; Christopher Chaltain
Subject: Re: The End Of Apple, Forbes Magazine

Having used both phones for a while, Apple phones do notisably slow down
over time, where as android doesn't. So even if you don't get the latest
updates, you still have a phone as quick as it was the day you bought it.
You can't say that about apple.
Cheers,
Brett.




On 22 January 2019 10:45:15 pm Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:



Not that it changes your argument, but the Pixel 2 and Pixel 3 from
Google get 3 years of major Android updates and 3 years of security
patching, not two years of major updates as you state below. Since it
doesn't impact your point, you might want to check your facts before
spreading false information.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en



On 1/22/19 12:59 AM, Gordon wrote:

Something like this will definitely put a lot of pressure on Apple to
make this year's iPhone much better than last year's model. Apple
builds their products to last for a long time. If you take care of
them you could get five or more years out of a phone. Android really
isn't like that since they only give you two updates and three years
of security updates. If you currently have an iPhone 5S, you're still
in the game. However the Android phones that came out at the same time
are probably on their way to a recycling center.

On 1/22/2019 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

What a bunch of bologna that article is. I have been buying iPhones
since 2010 and I don't ever recall one for $199 or even $299.
"The cheapest iPhone is $1,149", I think he better take a second look
at what an iPhone 7 costs right now.
If fewer iPhone sales is the end of Apple than the reduction of PC
sales should have been the end of Microsoft, but they are far from
their end as is Apple.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The End Of Apple, Forbes Magazine

The End Of Apple
By Stephen McBride

"Oh man, that's almost a month's rent for me."
Here I am sitting in a cab in New York City.
I'm headed uptown to Columbia University where we'll hold the
first-ever American Disruption Summit. (You can register to watch for
free here.) The driver and I are talking about the absurd price tag
of the latest Apple
(AAPL) iPhone.
He's shocked when I tell him the cheapest model is $1,149.
"Who can afford that?" he asks.

Apple's Imminent Crash Has Begun
Apple has had an incredible decade.
Since the iPhone debuted in 2007, the company's sales have jumped
tenfold.
The stock has soared over 700%.
And up until last November, it was the world's largest publicly
traded company.
But two weeks ago, Apple issued a rare warning that shocked investors.
For the first time since 2002, the company slashed its earnings
forecast.
The stock plunged 10% for its worst day in six years.
This capped off a horrible few months in which Apple stock crashed
about 35% from its November peak.
  That erased $446 billion in shareholder value-the biggest wipeout
of wealth in a single stock ever.
And it's only the beginning.
Apple's Strong Revenue Growth Hides a Dirty Secret If you looked at
Apple's sales numbers, you wouldn't see anything wrong.
Since 2001, Apple has seen steady revenue growth:
  By this measure, Apple's business seems perfectly healthy. But
there's a secret hidden behind these headline numbers.
Despite the revenue growth, Apple is selling fewer iPhones every year.
In fact, iPhone unit sales peaked way back in 2015. Last year, Apple
sold 14 million fewer phones than it did three years ago.
Apple Kept Revenue Growth Only by Raising iPhone Prices In 2010, you
could buy a brand-new iPhone 4 for 199 bucks.
In 2014, the newly released iPhone 6 cost 299 bucks.
Today the cheapest model of the latest iPhone X costs $1,149!
It's a 500% hike from what Apple charged eight years ago.
But technology always gets cheaper over time.
Not so long ago, a flat-screen high-definition TV was a luxury. Even
a small one cost thousands of dollars. Today you can get a 55-inch
one from Best Buy for $500.
In 1984, Motorola sold the first cell phone for $4,000. The average
price for a smartphone today is $320, according to research firm IDC.
Cell phone prices have come 

Re: Call Forwarding Disable Shortcut

[Marie N.]

I am not sure if there is a shortcut since call forwarding is  a feature of 
your carrier and not the IPhone. Just entering the *73 plus the call button 
seems very quick and easy for me.
Marie


From: Mike B. 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 6:50 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Call Forwarding Disable Shortcut

Hi All,

Running an S E iPhone with iOS 12.1.2.  I do a lot of call forwarding and would 
like to know how to create a shortcut that I can tell Siri to disablecall 
forwarding when I want to turn it off rather that going through, Cellular 
Settings / Carrier Services / Call Forwarding Disable and double tapping.  I 
thought I had saved the steps but, you all know how that goes.  All help will 
be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.
Take care.  Go Rams!
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Re: Battery usage.

[Marie N.]

I leave location services on all the time and it does not drain my battery. 
Having that on and having a GPS app on are two different things.
How often do you charge the phone? I charge mine every night just to make 
sure it is good all day and it is recommended to never let the battery drop 
below 20% if possible.



-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Battery usage.

No, and I looked for Location this morning to double check it,  couldn't 
find it, checked in Control Center for it too. Where is Location? Thanks.


Best regards,

Carolyn


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Of Dave

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery usage.

do you leave any navigation apps, open in your app switcher?

-Original Message-
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Battery usage.

Not long ago, my battery went way down overnight; it did the same last 
night. I can't figure out why. Battery says I have normal usage, and that 
the battery is still operating from

100 percent, which, of course, I knew.

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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Marie N.]

I use my IPhone much more than my sighted friends or family members and 
often help them learn how to do things. Most of the blind users I know 
depend on the phone for many things.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

Sieghard, you are way smart - so good that you get the maximum use from your 
phone, use it like my sighted daughter-in-law.


Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 12:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I think that's a matter of debate, I find it intuitive and easy both with my 
Windows PC and my iPhone.
I have a retail business and on the business side I have a regular Canadian 
chequing account, a US chequing account and a business line of credit which 
is also a Visa card.
On the personal side I have my personal chequing account, a so-called Tax 
Free Savings Account, a Scotia iTrade account, my mortgage, a personal line 
of credit and a US Visa. All of this is with the Scotia Bank here in Canada 
and a single sign-on gives me access to all my accounts.
I can select to pay a bill and select whichever account I want to use to pay 
it from, same goes for transferring between accounts or sending email money 
transfers which I am not sure exist in the US.
There is also a direct link from my business account to another service 
which allows me to file and submit my monthly PST (provincial sales tax) and 
GST (Goods and Services Tax) payments, these are taxes we collect when 
customers buy products and I have to submit them to the government. I also 
used to do my payroll deductions through this system, but now use a payroll 
service which does it for me.
If I pay bills or do any business related stuff I prefer to do it on the 
computer although it's all completely accessible with the Scotia iPhone app 
as well, but when I pay a bill or do a transfer there is always a 
confirmation page which I like to keep so I print it but use the Microsoft 
Print to PDF printer in Windows 10 which allows me to save it as an 
accessible PDF.
Using telephone banking in comparison is slow and clunky and I don't think I 
have called my banks telephone banking line in 10 years.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

Online banking is hard, even for my sighted and tech savvy husband. I 
haven't done it in too long now.


Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene

Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

I meant to mention about the bank apps. I've never done online banking nor 
have I used my bank's app. Besides using the  flip phone for this purpose 
calling my bank's automated system, using the app makes sense to me, to be 
able to look up the information you need at any time for another way of 
doing it.


- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen


Interesting.  I’ve never had a bank ask for different numbers, but like 
Sieghard, I use my Bank’s app to check balances and such so I don’t have to 
call in.




I use the programed numbers for things like checking voice mail on my office 
phone, or calling into webinar or phone conference calls where the numbers 
almost never change, but if they do, I hear about it well in advance and can 
simply edit that part of the contact.




Richard







“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Angie 
Nutt

Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen



But what if your bank asks for different characters from your password each 
time? I haven’t done telephone banking for years but that’s how mine used to 
work.




All the best

Angie





On 4 Jan 2019, at 16:39, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:




Simon,



If your bank asks for your account number after you call in, just try to add 
a comma "," after the number and then type in your account number. Then save 
the contact and dial the number to try it. You might be surprised how easy 
it is. If, for example, you first have to press "1" and then enter your 
account number, add a comma, then a 1, then add 

Re: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

[Marie N.]

What happened to the subject line of these messages? I did not think it to be a 
discussion about music sources.
Marie


From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

We do have the Apple Music skill in the US, but it only works on Amazon 
devices, not on anything third-party as yet. So if you have echoes, you’re in 
good shape. I purchased HomePods this year. I have a lot of ripped music in my 
iTunes library, plus Apple Music. I tried unlimited Amazon for a while and got 
rid of it.
Mary



Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 23, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


  I thought in the US you now have the Apple Music skill for Alexa. I believe 
it started about a week ago and unfortunately it is not available in Canada.

  I signed up for the 3-month free trial of Amazon Unlimited and the fact how 
nice it works with Sonos and Alexa is the only reason why I may keep it at 
least until they also make the new skill available in Canada.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Merv 
Keck
  Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 8:28 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

   

  I prefer Apple Music as well. However, until they get voice control on Sonos 
with Alexa I also have Spotify. It is rare but Spotify does supplement Apple 
Music and I have found that the quality is often better than amazon Music 
Unlimited.

  Merv

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
  Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 1:35 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

   

  I also prefer Apple Music. Most of the music I listen to is on there. 

  Maria

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  On Dec 23, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

I have Amazon Unlimited Music, and in over a year I haven't found a song it 
wouldn't play.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 9:49 PM
Subject: RE: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS


To me it makes very little sense to have two major music subscriptions 
since you pay twice for 99% duplication.
I prefer Apple Music because I often simply use SIRI to tell it what I want 
to listen to, also my wife likes to listen to Filipino music and while I admit 
we haven't really checked out Spotify, Apple Music has a lot of it so we have a 
family membership and at $14.99 Canadian that is a pretty good deal especially 
now that I picked up $300 worth of iTunes gift cards for 17.5% off during Cyber 
Monday week and this means the music subscription is only $12.37 a month for 
both of us.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Shirley Healy
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

I love spotify!I also use that one. I have apple music too but I am debating
whether I will keep it or both or what.
shirley
- Original Message - From: "Mama Peach" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS


One of my newest favorites is Spotify. I signed up for the 3 months for $.99
and I am totally loving it. Plan to keep it after the 3 months is up. I
prefer it much more than Amazon Music. Spotify is very easy to use with
VoiceOver.

-Original Message- From: James English
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

Hi,

Quite surprised nobody has mentioned spotify yet, perfectly accessible
and with a massive music library.
I need a copy of this 'seing a guy' app, is it like accessible
grindr?


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On 12/22/18, Paul and Paula Jordan  wrote:

  Hi all.  Here's my list in no particular order.  I could actually probably

  name my top 25, but I'll resist!

  1.  Be my eyes.

  2.  MBraille

  3.  Dice world.

  4.  Nearby explorer

  5.  Some of the blindfold games

  6.  Alarmed

  7.  Google voice search

Re: To Those Who Have Used both Uber and Lyft, A Question

[Marie N.]

Well it certainly would have been if I had not been a pest about getting it 
corrected. LOL

Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Those Who Have Used both Uber and Lyft, A Question

Hi Marie,

Maybe you didn't see the entire message and it said "Good Deal for Lift"

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie 
N.

Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Those Who Have Used both Uber and Lyft, A Question

speaking of specials offered by Lyft, here is an experience I don't care to
repeat.
On my main screen there was an offer saying my ride would be free and stated
"Good Deal"
I clicked on it but when I completed the ride, not only did I get charged
for the ride but they charged my credit card rather than a credit which was
available on the account? It took three days and several email exchanges to
get it straightened out. They said the offer had expired but when I asked
then why it was showing on the screen, they never answered.
Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Those Who Have Used both Uber and Lyft, A Question

Mark,

I've had excellent success with both Uber and Lyft. I can't say I've had
accessibility problems with either app. I personally prefer Lyft which stems
more from Uber's past CEO and some of the things done while he was at the
helm not from any personal negative experience with the service. I will say
that I seem to receive more discount offers from Lyft.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: To Those Who Have Used both Uber and Lyft, A Question

Hello Everyone,

To those of you who use or who have used Uber and Lyft, which do you prefer
and why?

I would greatly appreciate any feedback on everything from the VoiceOver
accessibility and features of the iOS apps to your actual pickup and riding
experience.

Thank you so much.

Mark

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Re: To Those Who Have Used both Uber and Lyft, A Question

[Marie N.]

speaking of specials offered by Lyft, here is an experience I don't care to 
repeat.
On my main screen there was an offer saying my ride would be free and stated 
"Good Deal"
I clicked on it but when I completed the ride, not only did I get charged 
for the ride but they charged my credit card rather than a credit which was 
available on the account? It took three days and several email exchanges to 
get it straightened out. They said the offer had expired but when I asked 
then why it was showing on the screen, they never answered.

Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Those Who Have Used both Uber and Lyft, A Question

Mark,

I've had excellent success with both Uber and Lyft. I can't say I've had 
accessibility problems with either app. I personally prefer Lyft which stems 
more from Uber's past CEO and some of the things done while he was at the 
helm not from any personal negative experience with the service. I will say 
that I seem to receive more discount offers from Lyft.


Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of M. Taylor

Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: To Those Who Have Used both Uber and Lyft, A Question

Hello Everyone,

To those of you who use or who have used Uber and Lyft, which do you prefer 
and why?


I would greatly appreciate any feedback on everything from the VoiceOver 
accessibility and features of the iOS apps to your actual pickup and riding 
experience.


Thank you so much.

Mark

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Re: To Those Who Have Used both Uber and Lyft, A Question

[Marie N.]

I use both services and find the apps very similar and both easy to use. 
Most of the drivers work for both companies and I personally have found most 
to be very friendly and very helpful.
On the other hand, I find Lyft more difficult to work with in the case of 
any dispute and I object to the way they handle any credits you may have on 
your account.
There is an organization here which helps fund rides for the elderly and/or 
disabled. You purchase vouchers and they buy credits for you on the Lyft 
account for more than the vouchers coast. the problem arises when you have 
more than one credit and neither of them will fully cover the cost of a 
ride. They refuse to use more than one credit on a ride, so any overage will 
be charged to you on your method of payment and they will not take any 
driver tips from the credits.
Uber, on the other hand combines all credits into one and uses it for any 
and all charges.
So far as the costs of the fares, sometimes Uber is less, sometimes Lyft is 
less so it is up to you to check but the prices do not seem to vary all that 
much for me here in Reno.

Marie


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Subject: To Those Who Have Used both Uber and Lyft, A Question

Hello Everyone,

To those of you who use or who have used Uber and Lyft, which do you prefer
and why?

I would greatly appreciate any feedback on everything from the VoiceOver
accessibility and features of the iOS apps to your actual pickup and riding
experience.

Thank you so much.

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Re: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

[Marie N.]

Oh, I forgot to list Be My Eyes. I don't use it every day but when I need 
it, it can be a wonderful service.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 10:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

Curious why you guys still use Money Reader but in some cases also list 
Seeing AI which in my opinion reads money just as good and fast as Money 
Reader.


Here would be some of my favourites, also no real order:

1. Audible
2. Seeing AI
3. The CBC News app
4. Parcel Track with the exception that the developers haven't been very 
responsive, the app is missing two major Canadian carriers, Purolator and 
CanPar and I asked them quite a few times if they couldn't add them.

5. Sonos
6. Paprika
7. Expedia
8. Flicktype
9. Be My Eyes
10. Google


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Subject: RE: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

My favorite applications for 2018 for IOS would have to be:
1. Money reader
2. Aira
3. KNFB reader
4. Seeing AI
5. Nearby Explorer


Hope Paulos
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 2:19 PM
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Subject: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

Hello Everyone,

Well, we’re coming close to the end of another year and I thought I would 
list my top 10, non-native iOS apps for 2018 and ask that you contribute to 
this thread by listing your top 10 favorites, also.


My list is in no particular order:

1.
The official Twitter app.

2.
Liré, a full text RSS feed reader.

3.
Money Reader

4.
Fitport, a pedometer app.

5.
Parcel Track, a package tracking app.

6.
Classifieds, a Craig’s List app.

7.
K.N.F.B. reader.

8.
Downcast.

9.
Over Drive, a public library app.

10.
Seeing Eye GPS XT, navigation app.

Honorable Mentions:

1.
BARD Mobile.

2.
Skype for iOS.

3.
Nearby Explorer.

4.
Google Trips.

5.
The Amazon app.

6.
My Chart, a health care interface.

7.
The CVS Pharmacy app.

8.
The Starbucks and MacDonald’s apps.

9.
All of my financial institution apps.

10.
The Wikipedia app.

Okay, how about you?

Mark


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Re: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

[Marie N.]

In a small defense of Money Reader, if I am out as at a restaurant and need 
to find out what bill I have in a hurry, M.R. is ready to read it as soon as 
opened. I love Seeing AI and use it daily but in the situation above, I use 
MR because I don't have to flick to find the currency reader.
If I am sorting my money at home, I almost always turn to Seeing AI but 
having both apps is a bonus and both are free so what could be better? LOL!

I also have daily favorites:
Game Day Pro Football Radio
At Bat
Sonos
Uber and Lyft (which have added so much to my life)
The native Calendar and VO Calendar
Audible
Overdrive
Bard Mobile
InstaCart

Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 10:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

Curious why you guys still use Money Reader but in some cases also list 
Seeing AI which in my opinion reads money just as good and fast as Money 
Reader.


Here would be some of my favourites, also no real order:

1. Audible
2. Seeing AI
3. The CBC News app
4. Parcel Track with the exception that the developers haven't been very 
responsive, the app is missing two major Canadian carriers, Purolator and 
CanPar and I asked them quite a few times if they couldn't add them.

5. Sonos
6. Paprika
7. Expedia
8. Flicktype
9. Be My Eyes
10. Google


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Subject: RE: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

My favorite applications for 2018 for IOS would have to be:
1. Money reader
2. Aira
3. KNFB reader
4. Seeing AI
5. Nearby Explorer


Hope Paulos
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 2:19 PM
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Subject: My 2018 Top Favorite Apps for iOS

Hello Everyone,

Well, we’re coming close to the end of another year and I thought I would 
list my top 10, non-native iOS apps for 2018 and ask that you contribute to 
this thread by listing your top 10 favorites, also.


My list is in no particular order:

1.
The official Twitter app.

2.
Liré, a full text RSS feed reader.

3.
Money Reader

4.
Fitport, a pedometer app.

5.
Parcel Track, a package tracking app.

6.
Classifieds, a Craig’s List app.

7.
K.N.F.B. reader.

8.
Downcast.

9.
Over Drive, a public library app.

10.
Seeing Eye GPS XT, navigation app.

Honorable Mentions:

1.
BARD Mobile.

2.
Skype for iOS.

3.
Nearby Explorer.

4.
Google Trips.

5.
The Amazon app.

6.
My Chart, a health care interface.

7.
The CVS Pharmacy app.

8.
The Starbucks and MacDonald’s apps.

9.
All of my financial institution apps.

10.
The Wikipedia app.

Okay, how about you?

Mark


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Re: New iPhone arrives tomorrow. What's the easiest way to set it up?

[Marie N.]

The phone will tell you when to hold the old phone close and make sure you hold 
it just above the new one with the back facing camera toward the new one. 
Personally I think it better to wait to exchange the simm.
Marie


From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: New iPhone arrives tomorrow. What's the easiest way to set it up?

Hi,

 

My new iPhone X arrives tomorrow.

 

What’s the easiest way to set it up from my iPhone 7. I’m confused about this 
approach of hlding a new phone close to an existing phone. At what stage do I 
transfer the sim to the new phone – before or after I do the close holding 
thing?

 

A step by step guide would be most welcome. I think I’ll try setting up from an 
iCloud backup of my iPhone 7, and if that doesn’t work well I’ll reset the 
phone and then do it from an encrypted iTunes backup.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

[Marie N.]

The only thing I would add here is to make sure you slide your finger rather 
than swiping too quickly. I had to learn this and it took time but now I find 
it pretty consistent and fairly easy.
Marie


From: Robert Wright 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

Jed, touch at the bottom edge of the phone. When you hear a small pop you slide 
up to the first vibration.this is the home button. The second vibration is your 
app switcher.

>From the top touch, hear the pop then slide down. Vibration 1 is control 
>center, vibration 2 is notifications

 

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***

 

From: Dave
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 12:27 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

 

That is why, i went for the iPhone 8.

 

In the hope, that when i needed to upgrade again, in about 3 years or so, 

that apple, would have made some new changes, or at least refined, some of 

the accessibility features.

 

Dave.

 

 

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From: Jed Barton

Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:21 AM

To: viphone

Subject: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

 

Hey guys,

 

OK, if this is the way this phone is going to be, so far, this home

button thing is not cool.  I'm really struggling with it on the 10 r.

In my eyes, i am doing everything as advertised, swiping up, holding

my finger on the screen.  The phone just keeps going click click click

click click click click,  click click click.  It's very much hit or

miss.  I'd say out of 12 times i try and unlock the phone i may get it

once.  I've never struggled with something like this this bad.  What

is the secret?

 

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Re: Keyboard settings for IPHONE 7

[Marie N.]

I also use 3D touch on a few things but have no problem with it on the 
keyboard. My favorite use of 3D touch is activating the app switcher and I 
miss it on the IPhone X.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 6:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Keyboard settings for IPHONE 7

Hi Gary,

You must have a bit of a heavier touch, I like 3D Touch since I use several 
apps which give me 3D Touch options for a good portion of their 
functionality and it saves me to open the app and do several taps. The first 
thing I usually do when I get a new iPhone is to set 3D Touch to it's 
lightest setting since I don't like to press very hard on the screen. I 
think it's how you got used to using a touch screen and I find it quite 
interesting how some things are a bother for people which for me are just 
right.


-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 3:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Keyboard settings for IPHONE 7

Hi and thanks for your response.

s.

I have identified the problem, 3D touch was enabled and set to sensitive 
hence all the unwanted menus etc popping up everytime I moved my finger.


I've turned it off whilst I set up the phone.  I may turn it back on at some 
stage but I am not a fan of it for VIPs


Thanks


Gary

On 10/12/2018 18:21, Kathy Brandt wrote:
Also, especially if it was this way on the other phone, did you turn off 
auto correct and predictive text?


On Dec 10, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

While there are of course some differences between an iPhone 6 and 7 I 
would say they are mostly in processor speed and camera, there should be 
no difference  in how the on-screen keyboard works. I just bought an 
iPhone 8 and coming from a 6S I noticed no difference in the typing 
experience (apart from the fact of course that the 6S Plus has a larger 
screen).
If this is a brand-new phone Did you make sure there is nothing else 
covering the screen, new iPhones come with a plastic film covering both 
front and back, did you make sure the screen is clean and what typing 
style do you normally use? If you normally use standard typing where you 
have to double or split tap each letter and it got set to touch typing I 
could see how this could seem confusing since with touch typing al you 
have to do to type a letter is to find it and then lift up  your finger.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Keyboard settings for IPHONE 7

Hi all,

I am setting up an IPHONE 7  for my wife and I am noticing several
differences in functionality from our existing IPHONE 6 models even
though they are both on IOS 12.1 etc.

In particular the keyboard seems somewhat "lively" wih things popping
up all over the place when all I am trying to do is input an e mail 
address.


I would be glad of any advice as to what to turn off to calm down the
screen.

Any resources which cover the differences between a  6 and 7 would be
useful.


Thanks


Gary



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Re: Problem with voice over muting

[Marie N.]

you are not alone and this has been reported by quite a few users. I myself am 
running beta software and have reported the problem to Apple at least twice, 
with no fix thus far. It is very annoying.
Marie


From: Tom Rash 
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 7:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Problem with voice over muting

I have an iPhone 6S.  I’ve had this problem for quite some time now.  Most of 
the time when I end a phone call, voice over goes to mute.  I can hear the 
clicks going from app to app but no speech.  I always have to turn voice over 
off and on again to get it back.  I can’t triple finger double tap to turn mute 
off.  Any ideas what’s going on, or is anyone else having this problem?  
Thanks. 

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Re: Passcode issues

[Marie N.]

Actually, I think my biggest problem is a lack of patience. The face ID is 
getting better for me. Part of it is learning how to hold the phone so that it 
is really directed at your face and yes, I too learned that often, just doing 
the Home gesture causes the feature to work. I really do like the phone over 
all and it took practice to get the gestures so I am sure the face ID will be 
the same.
Marie


From: janet gross 
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 6:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Passcode issues

Hi Marie, 

I’m sorry to hear about your problems with the face id.  I had the same 
problem, and wow, can that be annoying!  It was actually driving me crazy!  Did 
you ever call Apple? If so, can I ask you what they told you? Have you tried 
going back to the home screen when the face id doesn’t work, and when it 
continuously asks for your passcode? I now find when it asks me for my pass 
code, and if I swipe up from the very bottom of the screen just a little until 
I feel the first vibration, and lift my finger, I can then try the face id 
option again, and the majority of the time it will unlock the phone.  I’ve also 
noticed if I hold my phone up to my face with my left hand, the phone will not 
unlock, but if I hold up the phone with my right hand, I have a much better 
chance of unlocking the phone.  Strange I know, but it is what it is!  Smile!  

Matter of fact, I also had a difficult time when I was setting up face id 
myself, I was setting up the face id feature holding the phone in my left hand, 
and VO kept telling me face id is not available on this device, so I thought ok 
I’m going to try this for the fourth time, and I used my right hand then, and 
sure enough, the face id feature was accepted.  Who knows, but I must not be 
holding the phone directly in front of my face when using my left hand.  Go 
figure.  Smile!  I would like to know how your phone is now working though.  

Janet 

 

Janet 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 11:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode issues

 

It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, the 
constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too demanding. I no 
longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have turned the passcode off on 
that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X and if not in decent light, the face 
ID does not work and it seems that it requires a code or ID every time the 
screen locks and this is ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call 
accessibility tomorrow and see what they might suggest.

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Passcode issues

 

Hello Marie,

 

I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is it 
maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Passcode issues

 

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the need 
to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section about 
when it is required and the one and only option is “immediately”. why is that 
the only selection and is there any way to change it?

Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL

Thanks,

Marie

 

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What's app

[Marie N.]

My daughter is out of the country and we are using What’s app for texting. 
Neither of us has much experience with the app and would like to know if you 
can make voice calls to another country using the app. I know you can call when 
in the same country but not sure about the international service.
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Amazon Echo Dot

[Marie N.]

For anyone interested, if you are an Amazon Prime member, the 2nd gen Dot plus 
one smart plug are on sale for $24.95 on their web site. I could not find the 
“add to cart” button on the regular site but easy on the 
www.amazon.com/access

Happy thanksgiving to all and happy shopping.
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Re: Passcode issues

[Marie N.]

Same here but I listened to a podcast from the Blind side and mosen says not to 
move your head too slowly and that you will get slightly better results if 
going faster. I tried that on the alternate Id and (fingers crossed) it seems 
to be more consistent.
Marie


From: Cristóbal Muñoz 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Passcode issues

Face ID has been finicky for me so far. I’ll probably try to redo the face 
scanning thing after I shut things down for today. That said, when it works, 
lighting has no baring. I’ve even made squishy faces on purpose. I’ve yawned 
while unlocking my phone. Continued to talk when unlocking and when it works, 
none of these actions impede it from working. My experience so far is that in 
general it’s simply not consistent. Again though, it could just be a bad 
initial scan. 

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode issues

 

Yes I know what you say about the security is correct and I will try to reset 
the face ID so perhaps I get a better result. It just seems like when there is 
plenty of light, it works well but when I am in my office, especially in the 
evening, it is very unreliable. I did go in this morning and put in what they 
call an alternate face ID and will check it out today. Maybe this will solve 
the Id issue. If I can get that to work better, it will be a nice relief. I 
suspect part of my impatience is due to the added new gesture for the home 
button and learning which to do first. LOL!

but you can teach an old dog new tricks.

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:24 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Passcode issues

 

Hi Marie,

 

You are mistaken about Face Id requiring good lighting, in fact, it works in 
total darkness.

Also, if you are asking about whether a passcode or Face Id or Touch Id are 
required to unlock your phone each time then the answer is yes if you have 
enabled passcode/Touch Id or passcode/Face Id. It would hardly be a security 
feature if you could set it so it would only ask you once an hour or something 
like that.

 

The reason for Touch Id on the older phones and Face Id on the new ones is so 
you don't have to enter a passcode each time and to make it easier to unlock 
your phone.

Yes, you can turn the feature off completely, but this also prevents you from 
using Apple Pay, it means that you can't use Touch Id or Face Id to 
authenticate app store purchases so you will have to enter your Apple Id 
password instead of just putting your finger on the home button or looking at 
the phone.

Furthermore, if your phone is ever stolen or lost anybody can access your 
information on the phone and, what is more, there is no barrier to a thief to 
simply wipe the phone and sell it or use it him or herself. At least with a 
passcode along with either Touch Id or Face Id this is not possible.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode issues

 

It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, the 
constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too demanding. I no 
longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have turned the passcode off on 
that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X and if not in decent light, the face 
ID does not work and it seems that it requires a code or ID every time the 
screen locks and this is ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call 
accessibility tomorrow and see what they might suggest.

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Passcode issues

 

Hello Marie,

 

I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is it 
maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Passcode issues

 

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the need 
to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section about 
when it is required and the one and only option is “immediately”. why is that 
the only selection and is there any way to change it?

Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL

Thanks,

Marie

 

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Re: Passcode issues

[Marie N.]

Yes I know what you say about the security is correct and I will try to reset 
the face ID so perhaps I get a better result. It just seems like when there is 
plenty of light, it works well but when I am in my office, especially in the 
evening, it is very unreliable. I did go in this morning and put in what they 
call an alternate face ID and will check it out today. Maybe this will solve 
the Id issue. If I can get that to work better, it will be a nice relief. I 
suspect part of my impatience is due to the added new gesture for the home 
button and learning which to do first. LOL!
but you can teach an old dog new tricks.
Marie


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Passcode issues

Hi Marie,

 

You are mistaken about Face Id requiring good lighting, in fact, it works in 
total darkness.

Also, if you are asking about whether a passcode or Face Id or Touch Id are 
required to unlock your phone each time then the answer is yes if you have 
enabled passcode/Touch Id or passcode/Face Id. It would hardly be a security 
feature if you could set it so it would only ask you once an hour or something 
like that.

 

The reason for Touch Id on the older phones and Face Id on the new ones is so 
you don't have to enter a passcode each time and to make it easier to unlock 
your phone.

Yes, you can turn the feature off completely, but this also prevents you from 
using Apple Pay, it means that you can't use Touch Id or Face Id to 
authenticate app store purchases so you will have to enter your Apple Id 
password instead of just putting your finger on the home button or looking at 
the phone.

Furthermore, if your phone is ever stolen or lost anybody can access your 
information on the phone and, what is more, there is no barrier to a thief to 
simply wipe the phone and sell it or use it him or herself. At least with a 
passcode along with either Touch Id or Face Id this is not possible.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode issues

 

It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, the 
constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too demanding. I no 
longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have turned the passcode off on 
that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X and if not in decent light, the face 
ID does not work and it seems that it requires a code or ID every time the 
screen locks and this is ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call 
accessibility tomorrow and see what they might suggest.

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Passcode issues

 

Hello Marie,

 

I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is it 
maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Passcode issues

 

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the need 
to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section about 
when it is required and the one and only option is “immediately”. why is that 
the only selection and is there any way to change it?

Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL

Thanks,

Marie

 

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Re: Passcode issues

[Marie N.]

It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, the 
constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too demanding. I no 
longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have turned the passcode off on 
that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X and if not in decent light, the face 
ID does not work and it seems that it requires a code or ID every time the 
screen locks and this is ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call 
accessibility tomorrow and see what they might suggest.
Marie


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Passcode issues

Hello Marie,

 

I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is it 
maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Passcode issues

 

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the need 
to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section about 
when it is required and the one and only option is “immediately”. why is that 
the only selection and is there any way to change it?

Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL

Thanks,

Marie

 

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Passcode issues

[Marie N.]

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the need 
to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section about 
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the only selection and is there any way to change it?
Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL
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Re: EditingField Does Not Work When Adding A New Contact

[Marie N.]

I have seen this behavior for quite some time. Normally I can skip the first 
name, go to the last name and enter the info. Then I can swipe back to the 
first name field and am able to enter the text? Strange little hiccup.
Marie


From: Fazil M. 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: EditingField Does Not Work When Adding A New Contact

Hi, list.

I have iPhone8 and iPhone5S with thee updated IOS versions.

Lately, I am unable to type in the first and last name field when adding a new 
contact. I tried to do standard typing, touch typing and direct touch-typing, 
but the character doesn’t get typed.

Your help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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Re: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls

[Marie N.]

Are these calls from people you recognize, or unknown calls? If they are the 
latter, sometimes when spam calls are answered, there is actually no one on the 
other end of the call. If it is happening with calls from contacts, there is a 
definite problem. However I am not experiencing this with either the 6S or the 
8, but I normally do not answer unknown numbers.
Things to try:
do a soft reboot.
Reset network settings. (this will require re-entering any networks you have 
previously joined and changing the name of the phone if you have set a specific 
name)
Marie


From: Matthew Horspool 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 5:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls

Hi,

Yes I've noticed it on an iPhone 8 on EE in the UK, but not often. It is very 
frustrating and I can't find a fix. It happens sometimes on outgoing calls too.

Matthew

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan
Sent: 19 November 2018 19:33
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls

 

I have noticed since IOS 12 that often I will get an incoming call.  When I do 
a 2 finger double tap to answer it it seems to answer but I hear nothing.  
After a half minute or so the call hangs up.

 

I looked through the settings and can't find anything that seems to affect this.

 

Has anyone else noticed this?  It is driving me crazy.

 

  

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Re: Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS

[Marie N.]

Oh, it is so nice to know that I am not the only one who feels this way.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS

If I had to do all my word processing on an iDevice I would go crazy and if 
I had to use Excel on an iDevice as well I'd probably shoot myself.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS


Well, if I had to do all my word processing on an iDevice, I would use Voice 
Dream Writer.
However, it only edits txt files, but you can export as RTF, Word, and 
others.

But, you cannot edit Word documents, or anything that isn't plain text.
I'd recommend reading up on its features.
I could try to send you the user guide privately if you would like.
Voice Dream Writer is $9.99.
Frankly, if you need to edit word or RTF files, I'd stick with a computer, 
since none of the apps work that well with VoiceOver that will allow editing 
of those file types.

HTH,
Richard



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On Nov 18, 2018, at 2:42 PM, Daniel McGee  
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Hi all

So lately, have been seriously considering not purchasing a new Mac device 
and just make do with my iPhone 8 and the new iPad that came out earlier 
this year for my computing needs.


Only thing that's stopping me and in which I am hoping that suggestions 
are most welcome is: recommendations for current word processor apps that 
are up to date and accessible with voiceover on iOS.


I will also be using FlickType full time as well.

Any thoughts are really appreciated!

Thanks

Daniel

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Re: Orbit Reader List

[Marie N.]

I believe one of the moderators asked that all the discussion of braille 
devices be taken off this list .

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Patti Johnson

Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader List

I have a gmail address and got on it with no problems.
Sometimes I think these servers get jammed.  Some one jus told me that
my messages are considered Spam for her and we both have  gmail
addresses.  Go figure.

Patti

On 11/16/18, Lea W Langley  wrote:

hi,
I have tried more times than I can count to get on the orbit Rehder 
mailing
list and have not been able to. Our use Yahoo, so we could be a 
possibility

that it could be the server American printing House told me that they see
the subscription names but they are blocked so that they cannot go 
through.

What I mean by that is a PhD is the subscriptions, but then they won’t go
any further so we can’t subscribe. They say that it’s blocked on our end.

God bless,
Wren Langley

PS if you figure out how to do it please let me know as I would love to be
on this list. Thank you.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 16, 2018, at 8:38 AM,  
wrote:

I tried multiple times with no success.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Orbit Reader List

Hi Everyone,
We have tried several times to get on the Orbit 20 reader list without
success. We called APH and they said the problem might be with our mail
server. We don’t think so, but, we were wondering if anyone else using
Yahoo was able to get on the list. We have been able to get on every 
other

list we have subscribed too.
We were wondering if anyone had any suggestions or thoughts about this
problem.
Thanks.
Nancy and Gary

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Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Regarding List Threads about Braille Displays

[Marie N.]

Thanks for addressing this issue. I am not a braille device user and feel 
this topic has gone on much too long recently.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 10:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: MODERATOR NOTE: Regarding List Threads about Braille Displays

Hello Everyone,

While I realize that we are a small community and, as such, must share
information about both software and devices that may, at times, be a bit
off-topic, the Braille display threads are straying far beyond the scope of
this forum.

So, if there is a support forum, or any kind of support info about a Braille
display, share it on-list, but be certain to instruct members to reply to
your info, off-list; unless, of course, the information directly addresses
an Apple product or Apple platform supported third-party software.
Consequently, all follow-up replies should be sent directly to the author of
the original post, off-list.

Thank you all for complying with this request.

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Re: got a new toy!

[Marie N.]

I find the gesture for the home button okay but accessing the app switcher is a 
pain. so can you use assistive touch to open it. I checked the web site but did 
not see any specific reference to the switcher. Is this just wishful thinking 
on my part?
Marie


From: Cristobal Munoz 
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: got a new toy!

Here you go: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202658

On Nov 8, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:


  Did you go to settings to make that change?What were the steps (for whenever 
I get a new phone)? Thanks. 

  Best regards,

  Carolyn 


  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
  Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:56 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: got a new toy!

  Speedwise, the SE can still hold its own. I was getting more hanging and apps 
taking longer to open, switching between apps  and things like that to where it 
was getting noticeable for me though. My business line I use for mainly 
receiving and making calls. All the other work related stuff like alerts, 
texting, calendar look ups, email, etc I do off of my main phone. Thus I 
decided to upgrade.
  I'm still not a fan of Face ID and it's fairly frequent that I'm prompted for 
a passcode. I know the new gestures to replace the home button are there, but I 
simply don't find them as convenient or intuitive as just pressing the home 
button. Had they come out with a second generation SE, I would have snatched 
that sucker up in a second. 
  I know Apple talks up the new gestures a lot, but I find them to be bleh and 
at the very least a step back in user experience. 
  What I ended up doing too is to enable the assistive touch button and place 
it in my dock sort of as the fifth app there. Right between the second and 
third apps. 
  I then changed the behavior of the button so that one tap (VO double tap) 
would act as the home button and a double tap (VO triple tap) would be the 
control panel. With the long press and hold activating the menu for the rest of 
the assistive touch options. 
  This for me works since I can use the XR more comfortably as a one handed 
device and not bother with the swipe up gesture as the home button as I find 
just tapping the assistive touch icon much faster. That and I'm lazy too I 
guess. Makes unlocking the phone quicker for me as well.

  Cristóbal

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
Arrigo
  Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 1:22 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: got a new toy!

  I'm actually surprised at how fast the iphone se is, for every day tasks, 
it's not much slower than the XR or 8, definitely faster than the 5S. The only 
thing I have noticed is that the cell reception is not quite as good in some 
areas as with the 8 and XR, the SE will have less bars in some areas, it's a 
great little phone, I was kind of sorry to see it discontinued even though the 
technology in it was starting to show its age.
  Original message:

With my XR, I bumped my SE to my business cell since my trusty 5S was 

giving me more and more trouble. Slightly annoying that the SE's a 64 

GB device since it's got nothing on it now, but oh well. Slowness 

aside on the 5S which is to be expected for such an old device, it 

started to act all weird on me. VO wasn't reading the phone numbers 

and often, it would automatically call people.

The 5S has a broken volume up button, a touch ID that doesn't work and 

a rear camera that's also broken. My wife changed the battery on it 

over the summer so as a super simple internet device, it can still 

work. She's going to buy the replacement camera module ($12 or so) and 

try to fix it. We've got nothing to lose. It's already broken.

We'll probably use it as a security camera or something. She's also 

got designs on taking it out with her to rack up more shoppkick and 

iBotta points by piggybacking off of her cell's personal hotspot.

We're going to use that sucker for something until the wheels fall off.



Cristóbal



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 

Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:38 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: got a new toy!



I also got an XR to go with my iPhone 7 Plus, which just got a nice 

new battery, thank you Apple for the rather inexpensive battery 

replacement program.



I retired in old iPad mini too, which I used for lots of book reading. 

So the 7+ is now taking over for that phone. I only have one working 

phone. That is just one phone line. But I think I will be set for 

several years to come with these phones and their big batteries.



Sent from my iPhone



  On Nov 8, 2018,