Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Capelle

it sure is, our cell provider is celling more 4s's than 5's.

-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

I don't think this is the case. You've been able to buy brand new iPhone
4S since the iPhone 5 was announced, and I doubt Apple stocked a year's
worth of iPhone 4S in advance. A quick Google search lead to the web
page
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/12/apple-to-diversify-manufacturers-for-iphone-5s-and-low-cost-iphone
where it talks about Apple's manufacturing partners producing low cost
iPhones, namely the 4, 4S and upcoming 5C. Also, don't forget the global
picture where the iPhone 4S is still a very popular phone.

On 09/08/2013 04:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi all,

I think it is very safe to say that Apple does not manufacture anymore
phones right now than the 5 and  have stop manufacturing the 5 now as they
begin to roll out the 5C and the 5S.  In my mind, they haven't been
manufacturing any IPhone 4 since the 4S came out and 4S since the 5 came
out.  Why should they manufacture old phones when they have loads of 
phones

in stock.  Companies have to purchase a certain number of phones and don't
sell them all right away due to the great number of phones Apple forces 
them
to buy.  If you buy a new 4S right now, you can be sure its old stock. 
When
there is no more old stock, then they start selling used ones and when 
there

are no more used ones, they give you a deal to buy the next model up that
they are stuck with anyway because there are 2 other models out by then 
and

life goes on.

Ron & Danvers

Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

Hi Christopher,

I think it's very safe to assume that the 4S will go away because of what
you said about the 5C and the 30 Pin connector. Except for the 5C having a 
4
inch display and Lightning connector it is much more like the 4S than the 
5

is since it is rumored to have the a5 processor.

I think it is more than conceivable that there will only be a couple of
versions of the 5C and the new 5S in 32 Gb, 64 Gb and 128 Gb. Of course 
now

that it is Sunday afternoon we will all know in less than 48 hours.
Speculation is fun of course *smile*.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

I don't think the question is what's going away. Obviously there will 
still

be a lot of iPhone 4, 4S and 5 out there. The question is what will Apple
still be manufacturing and selling as new iPhones. Googling around reveals
that there's a lot of speculation out there, and we won't know for sure
until Tuesday.

One rumor is that the 4S will be the entry level model, with it's smaller
screen, the 5C will be the midrange model and the 5S will be the high end
model. In this scenario, the iPhone 5 would stop being manufactured since
the 5C is so similar except for the plastic body.
Given that the 4S still has the 30 pin connector though, it may be the 
phone

that's discontinued.

The other scenario is that the 5C becomes the low end model, the 5 is the
midrange model and the 5S is the new high end model. In this scenario, 
Apple

would stop manufacturing and selling the 4S.

One article where the various rumors are discussed is at
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/iphone-5c-rumors.html

On 09/08/2013 02:34 AM, Chris H wrote:

Ditto. The 4 or the 4s won't be going away either, the 3Gs will though
as iOs 7 will not run on this now ancient phone.

On 08/09/2013 03:31, Jesus Garcia wrote:

Jumping in to this discussion, I doubt the five will be going away
anytime soon. In Florida don't know about anywhere else Wall Mart is
selling the 5
16 GB phone for $98.00 with two year contract on provider of choice.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 18:03
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones



Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering
what I will be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I
would be going to the 5, but on Apple Today, think that is the name,
it seemed to be the rumor
5 would be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!

Reggie and Allegra


On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Tess and others,



As Fred poin

Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-09 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Maybe Apple is turning out iPhone 4 and 4Ss but, I would be surprised if those 
were headed for Western markets.  I could imagine Apple still turning a good 
profit on them in parts of Asia, Africa, and South America though.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 9, 2013, at 12:43 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

> Well, it doesn't look like we'll be changing each others minds, so I think 
> we'll just have to agree to disagree.
> 
> From what I've read, the 4 and 4S are still being manufactured, or at least 
> they were a few months ago when Apple added another manufacturer to their low 
> end iPhone supply chain.
> 
> Modern companies don't keep vast inventories of stock around any more. 
> Storing stock is extremely expensive Companies try to optimize their supply 
> chain as much as possible. I'm not sure if they still use terms like just in 
> time manufacturing, but the science or art of not having any more inventory 
> around than absolutely necessary has been around for decades. I think it's 
> more likely they were just out of stock of the iPhone 4 than it was they 
> weren't manufacturing the iPhone 4 anymore.
> 
> In managing their supply chain, Apple tries to predict iPhone sales. For 
> example, Apple has cut it's iPhone manufacturing a bit to track with the 
> slightly sluggish sales caused by smart phone fatigue in the marketplace.
> 
> On 09/08/2013 10:15 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:
>> Hi Christopher,
>> 
>> I wouldn't mind betting with you that between Apple and its re-sellers they
>> do have way more than a year's worth of stock especially since Apple sales
>> have been seriously going down.  For the past 3 months, I've been getting
>> text messages from Bell Canada trying to get me to upgrade my phone at a
>> good price.  That's only because they have a stock of IP5 to get rid of
>> before the 5S comes out and they do that every summer before the new model
>> arrives.
>> 
>> About 6 months after the IP 4S came out, a friend of mine dropped his IP4 in
>> water and ruined it.  He wanted to change it for another IP4 but they didn't
>> have any more new ones so they offered  him a refurbished one or a very good
>> deal on a 4S. Had they been still manufacturing the 4, they would have been
>> able to get him a new one rather than giving him such a good deal on the 4S.
>> 
>> 
>> They probably still have parts to repair the 4 and the 4S but I'm sure they
>> have been out of production for a very long time.
>> 
>> But, of course, that is only my opinion.
>> 
>> Ron & Danvers
>> 
>> Falling down is part of LIFE...
>> Getting back up is LIVING...
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones
>> 
>> I don't think this is the case. You've been able to buy brand new iPhone 4S
>> since the iPhone 5 was announced, and I doubt Apple stocked a year's worth
>> of iPhone 4S in advance. A quick Google search lead to the web page
>> http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/12/apple-to-diversify-manufacturers-f
>> or-iphone-5s-and-low-cost-iphone
>> where it talks about Apple's manufacturing partners producing low cost
>> iPhones, namely the 4, 4S and upcoming 5C. Also, don't forget the global
>> picture where the iPhone 4S is still a very popular phone.
>> 
>> On 09/08/2013 04:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I think it is very safe to say that Apple does not manufacture anymore
>>> phones right now than the 5 and  have stop manufacturing the 5 now as
>>> they begin to roll out the 5C and the 5S.  In my mind, they haven't
>>> been manufacturing any IPhone 4 since the 4S came out and 4S since the
>>> 5 came out.  Why should they manufacture old phones when they have
>>> loads of phones in stock.  Companies have to purchase a certain number
>>> of phones and don't sell them all right away due to the great number
>>> of phones Apple forces them to buy.  If you buy a new 4S right now,
>>> you can be sure its old stock.  When there is no more old stock, then
>>> they start selling used ones and when there are no more used ones,
>>> they give you a deal to buy the next model up that they are stuck with
>>> anyway because there are 2 other models 

Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-09 Thread Alan Paganelli
According to what I've read, the 4S 8 GB will become the new free phone.  I 
would suspect that support for the iPhone 4 will be dropped just like it did 
when the iPhone 5 came out and they dropped support for the 3GS. As I said 
though, I don't care because my 32 GB iPhone 4 even with out siri has been a 
pleasure to own and use.  I've been saving up for this new iPhone when it 
comes out, I want the largest size hard drive I can lay my hands on 
believing sense it is a solid state hard drive, it's better to have and not 
need it then to need and not have it.  I like having my music collection on 
my iPhone.  My wife and I have already discussed ditching my Mackintosh 6200 
intergraded amp from 1980 and all my old large components and going with my 
Bose Sound Dock 10 and my iPhone.  Eventually I'll get new audio/video gear 
probably Bose gear.  I've got a 5.1 channel surround system but rarely use 
it any more.  I haven't used it probably in a year.


Does any one know if Apple makes an audio system?
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones


Well, it doesn't look like we'll be changing each others minds, so I think 
we'll just have to agree to disagree.


From what I've read, the 4 and 4S are still being manufactured, or at 
least they were a few months ago when Apple added another manufacturer to 
their low end iPhone supply chain.


Modern companies don't keep vast inventories of stock around any more. 
Storing stock is extremely expensive Companies try to optimize their 
supply chain as much as possible. I'm not sure if they still use terms 
like just in time manufacturing, but the science or art of not having any 
more inventory around than absolutely necessary has been around for 
decades. I think it's more likely they were just out of stock of the 
iPhone 4 than it was they weren't manufacturing the iPhone 4 anymore.


In managing their supply chain, Apple tries to predict iPhone sales. For 
example, Apple has cut it's iPhone manufacturing a bit to track with the 
slightly sluggish sales caused by smart phone fatigue in the marketplace.


On 09/08/2013 10:15 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi Christopher,

I wouldn't mind betting with you that between Apple and its re-sellers 
they
do have way more than a year's worth of stock especially since Apple 
sales

have been seriously going down.  For the past 3 months, I've been getting
text messages from Bell Canada trying to get me to upgrade my phone at a
good price.  That's only because they have a stock of IP5 to get rid of
before the 5S comes out and they do that every summer before the new 
model

arrives.

About 6 months after the IP 4S came out, a friend of mine dropped his IP4 
in
water and ruined it.  He wanted to change it for another IP4 but they 
didn't
have any more new ones so they offered  him a refurbished one or a very 
good
deal on a 4S. Had they been still manufacturing the 4, they would have 
been
able to get him a new one rather than giving him such a good deal on the 
4S.



They probably still have parts to repair the 4 and the 4S but I'm sure 
they

have been out of production for a very long time.

But, of course, that is only my opinion.

Ron & Danvers

Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

I don't think this is the case. You've been able to buy brand new iPhone 
4S
since the iPhone 5 was announced, and I doubt Apple stocked a year's 
worth

of iPhone 4S in advance. A quick Google search lead to the web page
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/12/apple-to-diversify-manufacturers-f
or-iphone-5s-and-low-cost-iphone
where it talks about Apple's manufacturing partners producing low cost
iPhones, namely the 4, 4S and upcoming 5C. Also, don't forget the global
picture where the iPhone 4S is still a very popular phone.

On 09/08/2013 04:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi all,

I think it is very safe to say that Apple does not manufacture anymore
phones right now than the 5 and  have stop manufacturing the 5 no

RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-09 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Christopher,

As you said, it doesn't look like we'll be changing each other's minds so
this is my last post on this subject. Let's wait until tomorrow to see what
Apple will have to offer us.  One way or the other, I don't think either one
of us will be going forward to an old phone. I'm due for an upgrade so I'm
looking forward to the announcement so I can decide if I will buy outright
a 5C and get a plan without a contract or go for a 5S on a plan.  I'm still
in favor of getting the 5S on a plan but, who knows.  I wish I could afford
to buy a  5s outright because I know that would be cheaper in the long run. 

Ron & Danvers

Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

Well, it doesn't look like we'll be changing each others minds, so I think
we'll just have to agree to disagree.

 From what I've read, the 4 and 4S are still being manufactured, or at least
they were a few months ago when Apple added another manufacturer to their
low end iPhone supply chain.

Modern companies don't keep vast inventories of stock around any more. 
Storing stock is extremely expensive Companies try to optimize their supply
chain as much as possible. I'm not sure if they still use terms like just in
time manufacturing, but the science or art of not having any more inventory
around than absolutely necessary has been around for decades. I think it's
more likely they were just out of stock of the iPhone 4 than it was they
weren't manufacturing the iPhone 4 anymore.

In managing their supply chain, Apple tries to predict iPhone sales. For
example, Apple has cut it's iPhone manufacturing a bit to track with the
slightly sluggish sales caused by smart phone fatigue in the marketplace.

On 09/08/2013 10:15 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:
> Hi Christopher,
>
> I wouldn't mind betting with you that between Apple and its re-sellers 
> they do have way more than a year's worth of stock especially since 
> Apple sales have been seriously going down.  For the past 3 months, 
> I've been getting text messages from Bell Canada trying to get me to 
> upgrade my phone at a good price.  That's only because they have a 
> stock of IP5 to get rid of before the 5S comes out and they do that 
> every summer before the new model arrives.
>
> About 6 months after the IP 4S came out, a friend of mine dropped his 
> IP4 in water and ruined it.  He wanted to change it for another IP4 
> but they didn't have any more new ones so they offered  him a 
> refurbished one or a very good deal on a 4S. Had they been still 
> manufacturing the 4, they would have been able to get him a new one rather
than giving him such a good deal on the 4S.
>
>
> They probably still have parts to repair the 4 and the 4S but I'm sure 
> they have been out of production for a very long time.
>
> But, of course, that is only my opinion.
>
> Ron & Danvers
>
> Falling down is part of LIFE...
> Getting back up is LIVING...
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones
>
> I don't think this is the case. You've been able to buy brand new 
> iPhone 4S since the iPhone 5 was announced, and I doubt Apple stocked 
> a year's worth of iPhone 4S in advance. A quick Google search lead to 
> the web page 
> http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/12/apple-to-diversify-manufactu
> rers-f
> or-iphone-5s-and-low-cost-iphone
> where it talks about Apple's manufacturing partners producing low cost 
> iPhones, namely the 4, 4S and upcoming 5C. Also, don't forget the 
> global picture where the iPhone 4S is still a very popular phone.
>
> On 09/08/2013 04:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I think it is very safe to say that Apple does not manufacture 
>> anymore phones right now than the 5 and  have stop manufacturing the 
>> 5 now as they begin to roll out the 5C and the 5S.  In my mind, they 
>> haven't been manufacturing any IPhone 4 since the 4S came out and 4S 
>> since the
>> 5 came out.  Why should they manufacture old phones when they have 
>> loads of phones in stock.  Companies have to purchase a certain 
>> number of phones and don't sell them all right away due to the great 
>> number of phones Apple forces them to buy.  If you

Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Just as a curiosity, I stumbled across these two links. They don't prove 
anything either way, but I thought they were interesting. I think we 
sometimes forget that we're a pretty tech savvy group here, so as we 
talk amongst ourselves about the newest and greatest smart phones, we 
forget about other demographics, such as those new to the smart phone.


this first article talks about how well the iPhone 4 was selling in July 
of this year and how popular it is amongst people moving from a feature 
phone to a smart phone for the first time.


http://www.fool.com.au/2013/09/08/apples-secret-sales-weapon-the-iphone-4/

This second article talks about iPhone sales in June of this year and 
points out that half of iPhone sales are the 4 and the 4S. It also 
points out that the iPhone 5 isn't selling proportionally as well as the 
iPhone 4S did against it's predecessors.


http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/07/22/iphone-5-accounts-for-half-of-apples-smartphone-sales-iphone-4s-takes-30

After reading these articles and how important it is for Apple to go 
after those feature phone users, compete against low end Android based 
smart phones and compete in the emerging markets, maybe Apple won't drop 
the 4 and the 4S on Tuesday. I'm still sticking with my earlier 
prediction though. Apple will drop the iPhone 4 just as they have in the 
past, but with the 5C coming out, this will replace the 4S, which they'd 
normally keep around.


On 09/08/2013 11:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

Well, it doesn't look like we'll be changing each others minds, so I
think we'll just have to agree to disagree.

 From what I've read, the 4 and 4S are still being manufactured, or at
least they were a few months ago when Apple added another manufacturer
to their low end iPhone supply chain.

Modern companies don't keep vast inventories of stock around any more.
Storing stock is extremely expensive Companies try to optimize their
supply chain as much as possible. I'm not sure if they still use terms
like just in time manufacturing, but the science or art of not having
any more inventory around than absolutely necessary has been around for
decades. I think it's more likely they were just out of stock of the
iPhone 4 than it was they weren't manufacturing the iPhone 4 anymore.

In managing their supply chain, Apple tries to predict iPhone sales. For
example, Apple has cut it's iPhone manufacturing a bit to track with the
slightly sluggish sales caused by smart phone fatigue in the marketplace.

On 09/08/2013 10:15 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi Christopher,

I wouldn't mind betting with you that between Apple and its re-sellers
they
do have way more than a year's worth of stock especially since Apple
sales
have been seriously going down.  For the past 3 months, I've been getting
text messages from Bell Canada trying to get me to upgrade my phone at a
good price.  That's only because they have a stock of IP5 to get rid of
before the 5S comes out and they do that every summer before the new
model
arrives.

About 6 months after the IP 4S came out, a friend of mine dropped his
IP4 in
water and ruined it.  He wanted to change it for another IP4 but they
didn't
have any more new ones so they offered  him a refurbished one or a
very good
deal on a 4S. Had they been still manufacturing the 4, they would have
been
able to get him a new one rather than giving him such a good deal on
the 4S.


They probably still have parts to repair the 4 and the 4S but I'm sure
they
have been out of production for a very long time.

But, of course, that is only my opinion.

Ron & Danvers

Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

I don't think this is the case. You've been able to buy brand new
iPhone 4S
since the iPhone 5 was announced, and I doubt Apple stocked a year's
worth
of iPhone 4S in advance. A quick Google search lead to the web page
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/12/apple-to-diversify-manufacturers-f

or-iphone-5s-and-low-cost-iphone
where it talks about Apple's manufacturing partners producing low cost
iPhones, namely the 4, 4S and upcoming 5C. Also, don't forget the global
picture where the iPhone 4S is still a very popular phone.

On 09/08/2013 04:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi all,

I think it is very safe to say that Apple does not manufacture anymore
phones right now than the 5 and  have stop manufacturing the 5 now as
they begin to roll out the 5C and the 5S.  In my mind, they haven't
been manufacturing any IPhone 4 since the 4S came out and 4S since the
5 came out.  Why should they manufacture old phones when they hav

Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Was this a 16G iPhone 4S? From Googling around a bit, it looks like I 
could still get a new 16G iPhone 4S from Sprint for $0 with a 2 year 
contract. It also looks like I can still order an 8G iPhone 4 or a 16G 
iPhone 4S from Apple.


I agree the iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S will eventually stop being 
manufactured. As I said in a previous message, I think the iPhone 5C 
will be used to replace the 4 and maybe the 4S as well in Apple's line 
up of smart phones.


I guess we'll start finding out more on Tuesday.

On 09/08/2013 09:18 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

I had my 4S swapped out about two weeks ago because the volume button was
broken on it and since I had insurance on it through the carrier, I figured
why not get it replaced even though my upgrade was due for September 1st.
Sprint gave me a "reconditioned" device which I expected and I was told that
they weren't working with brand new 4S's anymore. For my purposes the
reconditioned phone was perfectly fine since I plan on getting the new 5S or
whatever it'll be called when it comes out and will either give my wife my
quazi-new  4S or simply sell it along with all the accessories like Mophie
Juice Pack, rubber protective case  and extended charging cable if the
cheaper 5C turns out to have comparable or better specs than the 4S so we
can both have phones with lightning connectors.
While the 4S will probably still be around in circulation in secondary
markets for a long time, its continued manufacturing will all but certainly
go the way of the dodo bird.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

I don't think this is the case. You've been able to buy brand new iPhone 4S
since the iPhone 5 was announced, and I doubt Apple stocked a year's worth
of iPhone 4S in advance. A quick Google search lead to the web page
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/12/apple-to-diversify-manufacturers-f
or-iphone-5s-and-low-cost-iphone
where it talks about Apple's manufacturing partners producing low cost
iPhones, namely the 4, 4S and upcoming 5C. Also, don't forget the global
picture where the iPhone 4S is still a very popular phone.

On 09/08/2013 04:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi all,

I think it is very safe to say that Apple does not manufacture anymore
phones right now than the 5 and  have stop manufacturing the 5 now as
they begin to roll out the 5C and the 5S.  In my mind, they haven't
been manufacturing any IPhone 4 since the 4S came out and 4S since the
5 came out.  Why should they manufacture old phones when they have
loads of phones in stock.  Companies have to purchase a certain number
of phones and don't sell them all right away due to the great number
of phones Apple forces them to buy.  If you buy a new 4S right now,
you can be sure its old stock.  When there is no more old stock, then
they start selling used ones and when there are no more used ones,
they give you a deal to buy the next model up that they are stuck with
anyway because there are 2 other models out by then and life goes on.

Ron & Danvers

Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

Hi Christopher,

I think it's very safe to assume that the 4S will go away because of
what you said about the 5C and the 30 Pin connector. Except for the 5C
having a 4 inch display and Lightning connector it is much more like
the 4S than the 5 is since it is rumored to have the a5 processor.

I think it is more than conceivable that there will only be a couple
of versions of the 5C and the new 5S in 32 Gb, 64 Gb and 128 Gb. Of
course now that it is Sunday afternoon we will all know in less than 48

hours.

Speculation is fun of course *smile*.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

I don't think the question is what's going away. Obviously there will
still be a lot of iPhone 4, 4S and 5 out there. The question is what
will Apple still be manufacturing and selling as new iPhones. Googling
around reveals that there's a lot of speculation out there, and we
won't know for sure until Tuesday.

One rumor is that the 4S will be the entry level model, with it's
smaller screen, the 5C will be the midrange model and the 5S will be
the high end model. In this scenario, the iPhone 5 would stop being
manufactured 

Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, it doesn't look like we'll be changing each others minds, so I 
think we'll just have to agree to disagree.


From what I've read, the 4 and 4S are still being manufactured, or at 
least they were a few months ago when Apple added another manufacturer 
to their low end iPhone supply chain.


Modern companies don't keep vast inventories of stock around any more. 
Storing stock is extremely expensive Companies try to optimize their 
supply chain as much as possible. I'm not sure if they still use terms 
like just in time manufacturing, but the science or art of not having 
any more inventory around than absolutely necessary has been around for 
decades. I think it's more likely they were just out of stock of the 
iPhone 4 than it was they weren't manufacturing the iPhone 4 anymore.


In managing their supply chain, Apple tries to predict iPhone sales. For 
example, Apple has cut it's iPhone manufacturing a bit to track with the 
slightly sluggish sales caused by smart phone fatigue in the marketplace.


On 09/08/2013 10:15 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi Christopher,

I wouldn't mind betting with you that between Apple and its re-sellers they
do have way more than a year's worth of stock especially since Apple sales
have been seriously going down.  For the past 3 months, I've been getting
text messages from Bell Canada trying to get me to upgrade my phone at a
good price.  That's only because they have a stock of IP5 to get rid of
before the 5S comes out and they do that every summer before the new model
arrives.

About 6 months after the IP 4S came out, a friend of mine dropped his IP4 in
water and ruined it.  He wanted to change it for another IP4 but they didn't
have any more new ones so they offered  him a refurbished one or a very good
deal on a 4S. Had they been still manufacturing the 4, they would have been
able to get him a new one rather than giving him such a good deal on the 4S.


They probably still have parts to repair the 4 and the 4S but I'm sure they
have been out of production for a very long time.

But, of course, that is only my opinion.

Ron & Danvers

Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

I don't think this is the case. You've been able to buy brand new iPhone 4S
since the iPhone 5 was announced, and I doubt Apple stocked a year's worth
of iPhone 4S in advance. A quick Google search lead to the web page
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/12/apple-to-diversify-manufacturers-f
or-iphone-5s-and-low-cost-iphone
where it talks about Apple's manufacturing partners producing low cost
iPhones, namely the 4, 4S and upcoming 5C. Also, don't forget the global
picture where the iPhone 4S is still a very popular phone.

On 09/08/2013 04:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi all,

I think it is very safe to say that Apple does not manufacture anymore
phones right now than the 5 and  have stop manufacturing the 5 now as
they begin to roll out the 5C and the 5S.  In my mind, they haven't
been manufacturing any IPhone 4 since the 4S came out and 4S since the
5 came out.  Why should they manufacture old phones when they have
loads of phones in stock.  Companies have to purchase a certain number
of phones and don't sell them all right away due to the great number
of phones Apple forces them to buy.  If you buy a new 4S right now,
you can be sure its old stock.  When there is no more old stock, then
they start selling used ones and when there are no more used ones,
they give you a deal to buy the next model up that they are stuck with
anyway because there are 2 other models out by then and life goes on.

Ron & Danvers

Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

Hi Christopher,

I think it's very safe to assume that the 4S will go away because of
what you said about the 5C and the 30 Pin connector. Except for the 5C
having a 4 inch display and Lightning connector it is much more like
the 4S than the 5 is since it is rumored to have the a5 processor.

I think it is more than conceivable that there will only be a couple
of versions of the 5C and the new 5S in 32 Gb, 64 Gb and 128 Gb. Of
course now that it is Sunday afternoon we will all know in less than 48

hours.

Speculation is fun of course *smile*.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher C

RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Christopher,

I wouldn't mind betting with you that between Apple and its re-sellers they
do have way more than a year's worth of stock especially since Apple sales
have been seriously going down.  For the past 3 months, I've been getting
text messages from Bell Canada trying to get me to upgrade my phone at a
good price.  That's only because they have a stock of IP5 to get rid of
before the 5S comes out and they do that every summer before the new model
arrives. 

About 6 months after the IP 4S came out, a friend of mine dropped his IP4 in
water and ruined it.  He wanted to change it for another IP4 but they didn't
have any more new ones so they offered  him a refurbished one or a very good
deal on a 4S. Had they been still manufacturing the 4, they would have been
able to get him a new one rather than giving him such a good deal on the 4S.


They probably still have parts to repair the 4 and the 4S but I'm sure they
have been out of production for a very long time.

But, of course, that is only my opinion.

Ron & Danvers
   
Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

I don't think this is the case. You've been able to buy brand new iPhone 4S
since the iPhone 5 was announced, and I doubt Apple stocked a year's worth
of iPhone 4S in advance. A quick Google search lead to the web page
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/12/apple-to-diversify-manufacturers-f
or-iphone-5s-and-low-cost-iphone
where it talks about Apple's manufacturing partners producing low cost
iPhones, namely the 4, 4S and upcoming 5C. Also, don't forget the global
picture where the iPhone 4S is still a very popular phone.

On 09/08/2013 04:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think it is very safe to say that Apple does not manufacture anymore 
> phones right now than the 5 and  have stop manufacturing the 5 now as 
> they begin to roll out the 5C and the 5S.  In my mind, they haven't 
> been manufacturing any IPhone 4 since the 4S came out and 4S since the 
> 5 came out.  Why should they manufacture old phones when they have 
> loads of phones in stock.  Companies have to purchase a certain number 
> of phones and don't sell them all right away due to the great number 
> of phones Apple forces them to buy.  If you buy a new 4S right now, 
> you can be sure its old stock.  When there is no more old stock, then 
> they start selling used ones and when there are no more used ones, 
> they give you a deal to buy the next model up that they are stuck with 
> anyway because there are 2 other models out by then and life goes on.
>
> Ron & Danvers
>
> Falling down is part of LIFE...
> Getting back up is LIVING...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones
>
> Hi Christopher,
>
> I think it's very safe to assume that the 4S will go away because of 
> what you said about the 5C and the 30 Pin connector. Except for the 5C 
> having a 4 inch display and Lightning connector it is much more like 
> the 4S than the 5 is since it is rumored to have the a5 processor.
>
> I think it is more than conceivable that there will only be a couple 
> of versions of the 5C and the new 5S in 32 Gb, 64 Gb and 128 Gb. Of 
> course now that it is Sunday afternoon we will all know in less than 48
hours.
> Speculation is fun of course *smile*.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones
>
> I don't think the question is what's going away. Obviously there will 
> still be a lot of iPhone 4, 4S and 5 out there. The question is what 
> will Apple still be manufacturing and selling as new iPhones. Googling 
> around reveals that there's a lot of speculation out there, and we 
> won't know for sure until Tuesday.
>
> One rumor is that the 4S will be the entry level model, with it's 
> smaller screen, the 5C will be the midrange model and the 5S will be 
> the high end model. In this scenario, the iPhone 5 would stop being 
> manufactured since the 5C is so similar except for the plastic body.
> Given that the 4S still has the 30 pin conn

RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Cristóbal
I had my 4S swapped out about two weeks ago because the volume button was
broken on it and since I had insurance on it through the carrier, I figured
why not get it replaced even though my upgrade was due for September 1st.
Sprint gave me a "reconditioned" device which I expected and I was told that
they weren't working with brand new 4S's anymore. For my purposes the
reconditioned phone was perfectly fine since I plan on getting the new 5S or
whatever it'll be called when it comes out and will either give my wife my
quazi-new  4S or simply sell it along with all the accessories like Mophie
Juice Pack, rubber protective case  and extended charging cable if the
cheaper 5C turns out to have comparable or better specs than the 4S so we
can both have phones with lightning connectors.
While the 4S will probably still be around in circulation in secondary
markets for a long time, its continued manufacturing will all but certainly
go the way of the dodo bird. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

I don't think this is the case. You've been able to buy brand new iPhone 4S
since the iPhone 5 was announced, and I doubt Apple stocked a year's worth
of iPhone 4S in advance. A quick Google search lead to the web page
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/12/apple-to-diversify-manufacturers-f
or-iphone-5s-and-low-cost-iphone
where it talks about Apple's manufacturing partners producing low cost
iPhones, namely the 4, 4S and upcoming 5C. Also, don't forget the global
picture where the iPhone 4S is still a very popular phone.

On 09/08/2013 04:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think it is very safe to say that Apple does not manufacture anymore 
> phones right now than the 5 and  have stop manufacturing the 5 now as 
> they begin to roll out the 5C and the 5S.  In my mind, they haven't 
> been manufacturing any IPhone 4 since the 4S came out and 4S since the 
> 5 came out.  Why should they manufacture old phones when they have 
> loads of phones in stock.  Companies have to purchase a certain number 
> of phones and don't sell them all right away due to the great number 
> of phones Apple forces them to buy.  If you buy a new 4S right now, 
> you can be sure its old stock.  When there is no more old stock, then 
> they start selling used ones and when there are no more used ones, 
> they give you a deal to buy the next model up that they are stuck with 
> anyway because there are 2 other models out by then and life goes on.
>
> Ron & Danvers
>
> Falling down is part of LIFE...
> Getting back up is LIVING...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones
>
> Hi Christopher,
>
> I think it's very safe to assume that the 4S will go away because of 
> what you said about the 5C and the 30 Pin connector. Except for the 5C 
> having a 4 inch display and Lightning connector it is much more like 
> the 4S than the 5 is since it is rumored to have the a5 processor.
>
> I think it is more than conceivable that there will only be a couple 
> of versions of the 5C and the new 5S in 32 Gb, 64 Gb and 128 Gb. Of 
> course now that it is Sunday afternoon we will all know in less than 48
hours.
> Speculation is fun of course *smile*.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones
>
> I don't think the question is what's going away. Obviously there will 
> still be a lot of iPhone 4, 4S and 5 out there. The question is what 
> will Apple still be manufacturing and selling as new iPhones. Googling 
> around reveals that there's a lot of speculation out there, and we 
> won't know for sure until Tuesday.
>
> One rumor is that the 4S will be the entry level model, with it's 
> smaller screen, the 5C will be the midrange model and the 5S will be 
> the high end model. In this scenario, the iPhone 5 would stop being 
> manufactured since the 5C is so similar except for the plastic body.
> Given that the 4S still has the 30 pin connector though, it may be the 
> phone that's discontinued.
>
> The other scenario is that the 5C becomes the low end model, the 5 is 

Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't think this is the case. You've been able to buy brand new iPhone 
4S since the iPhone 5 was announced, and I doubt Apple stocked a year's 
worth of iPhone 4S in advance. A quick Google search lead to the web 
page 
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/12/apple-to-diversify-manufacturers-for-iphone-5s-and-low-cost-iphone 
where it talks about Apple's manufacturing partners producing low cost 
iPhones, namely the 4, 4S and upcoming 5C. Also, don't forget the global 
picture where the iPhone 4S is still a very popular phone.


On 09/08/2013 04:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi all,

I think it is very safe to say that Apple does not manufacture anymore
phones right now than the 5 and  have stop manufacturing the 5 now as they
begin to roll out the 5C and the 5S.  In my mind, they haven't been
manufacturing any IPhone 4 since the 4S came out and 4S since the 5 came
out.  Why should they manufacture old phones when they have loads of phones
in stock.  Companies have to purchase a certain number of phones and don't
sell them all right away due to the great number of phones Apple forces them
to buy.  If you buy a new 4S right now, you can be sure its old stock.  When
there is no more old stock, then they start selling used ones and when there
are no more used ones, they give you a deal to buy the next model up that
they are stuck with anyway because there are 2 other models out by then and
life goes on.

Ron & Danvers

Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

Hi Christopher,

I think it's very safe to assume that the 4S will go away because of what
you said about the 5C and the 30 Pin connector. Except for the 5C having a 4
inch display and Lightning connector it is much more like the 4S than the 5
is since it is rumored to have the a5 processor.

I think it is more than conceivable that there will only be a couple of
versions of the 5C and the new 5S in 32 Gb, 64 Gb and 128 Gb. Of course now
that it is Sunday afternoon we will all know in less than 48 hours.
Speculation is fun of course *smile*.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

I don't think the question is what's going away. Obviously there will still
be a lot of iPhone 4, 4S and 5 out there. The question is what will Apple
still be manufacturing and selling as new iPhones. Googling around reveals
that there's a lot of speculation out there, and we won't know for sure
until Tuesday.

One rumor is that the 4S will be the entry level model, with it's smaller
screen, the 5C will be the midrange model and the 5S will be the high end
model. In this scenario, the iPhone 5 would stop being manufactured since
the 5C is so similar except for the plastic body.
Given that the 4S still has the 30 pin connector though, it may be the phone
that's discontinued.

The other scenario is that the 5C becomes the low end model, the 5 is the
midrange model and the 5S is the new high end model. In this scenario, Apple
would stop manufacturing and selling the 4S.

One article where the various rumors are discussed is at
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/iphone-5c-rumors.html

On 09/08/2013 02:34 AM, Chris H wrote:

Ditto. The 4 or the 4s won't be going away either, the 3Gs will though
as iOs 7 will not run on this now ancient phone.

On 08/09/2013 03:31, Jesus Garcia wrote:

Jumping in to this discussion, I doubt the five will be going away
anytime soon. In Florida don't know about anywhere else Wall Mart is
selling the 5
16 GB phone for $98.00 with two year contract on provider of choice.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 18:03
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones



Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering
what I will be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I
would be going to the 5, but on Apple Today, think that is the name,
it seemed to be the rumor
5 would be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!

Reggie and Allegra


On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Tess and others,



As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about
what the new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific.
I can't remember when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last
year, but it is assumed that the new iPhone just like last year will
b

RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi all,

I think it is very safe to say that Apple does not manufacture anymore
phones right now than the 5 and  have stop manufacturing the 5 now as they
begin to roll out the 5C and the 5S.  In my mind, they haven't been
manufacturing any IPhone 4 since the 4S came out and 4S since the 5 came
out.  Why should they manufacture old phones when they have loads of phones
in stock.  Companies have to purchase a certain number of phones and don't
sell them all right away due to the great number of phones Apple forces them
to buy.  If you buy a new 4S right now, you can be sure its old stock.  When
there is no more old stock, then they start selling used ones and when there
are no more used ones, they give you a deal to buy the next model up that
they are stuck with anyway because there are 2 other models out by then and
life goes on.  

Ron & Danvers

Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

Hi Christopher,

I think it's very safe to assume that the 4S will go away because of what
you said about the 5C and the 30 Pin connector. Except for the 5C having a 4
inch display and Lightning connector it is much more like the 4S than the 5
is since it is rumored to have the a5 processor.

I think it is more than conceivable that there will only be a couple of
versions of the 5C and the new 5S in 32 Gb, 64 Gb and 128 Gb. Of course now
that it is Sunday afternoon we will all know in less than 48 hours.
Speculation is fun of course *smile*.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

I don't think the question is what's going away. Obviously there will still
be a lot of iPhone 4, 4S and 5 out there. The question is what will Apple
still be manufacturing and selling as new iPhones. Googling around reveals
that there's a lot of speculation out there, and we won't know for sure
until Tuesday.

One rumor is that the 4S will be the entry level model, with it's smaller
screen, the 5C will be the midrange model and the 5S will be the high end
model. In this scenario, the iPhone 5 would stop being manufactured since
the 5C is so similar except for the plastic body. 
Given that the 4S still has the 30 pin connector though, it may be the phone
that's discontinued.

The other scenario is that the 5C becomes the low end model, the 5 is the
midrange model and the 5S is the new high end model. In this scenario, Apple
would stop manufacturing and selling the 4S.

One article where the various rumors are discussed is at
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/iphone-5c-rumors.html

On 09/08/2013 02:34 AM, Chris H wrote:
> Ditto. The 4 or the 4s won't be going away either, the 3Gs will though 
> as iOs 7 will not run on this now ancient phone.
>
> On 08/09/2013 03:31, Jesus Garcia wrote:
>> Jumping in to this discussion, I doubt the five will be going away 
>> anytime soon. In Florida don't know about anywhere else Wall Mart is 
>> selling the 5
>> 16 GB phone for $98.00 with two year contract on provider of choice.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
>> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 18:03
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones
>>
>>
>>
>> Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering 
>> what I will be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I 
>> would be going to the 5, but on Apple Today, think that is the name, 
>> it seemed to be the rumor
>> 5 would be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!
>>
>> Reggie and Allegra
>>
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tess and others,
>>
>>
>>
>> As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about 
>> what the new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific.
>> I can't remember when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last 
>> year, but it is assumed that the new iPhone just like last year will 
>> be in Apple Stores on Friday, September 20 and also that if you order 
>> it from Apple online that you will get it on that day. I think you 
>> will be able to preorder the phone eiter on the 10th or shortly after 
>> for delivery by the 20th.
>>
&g

RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Chris,

You can already get a 128 Gb iPad and while of course there is much more
space in an iPad, putting 128 Gb of storage into an iPhone is not so hard.
There are already 256 Gb SDXC cards available and even that card is only the
size of a stamp. Micro SD cards go as large as 64 Gb and they aren't bigger
than your little finger nail.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris H
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

What! A phone with 128 gb of torage? Just wow!

On 08/09/2013 21:47, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Christopher,
>
> I think it's very safe to assume that the 4S will go away because of what
> you said about the 5C and the 30 Pin connector. Except for the 5C having a
4
> inch display and Lightning connector it is much more like the 4S than the
5
> is since it is rumored to have the a5 processor.
>
> I think it is more than conceivable that there will only be a couple of
> versions of the 5C and the new 5S in 32 Gb, 64 Gb and 128 Gb. Of course
now
> that it is Sunday afternoon we will all know in less than 48 hours.
> Speculation is fun of course *smile*.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones
>
> I don't think the question is what's going away. Obviously there will
still
> be a lot of iPhone 4, 4S and 5 out there. The question is what will Apple
> still be manufacturing and selling as new iPhones. Googling around reveals
> that there's a lot of speculation out there, and we won't know for sure
> until Tuesday.
>
> One rumor is that the 4S will be the entry level model, with it's smaller
> screen, the 5C will be the midrange model and the 5S will be the high end
> model. In this scenario, the iPhone 5 would stop being manufactured since
> the 5C is so similar except for the plastic body.
> Given that the 4S still has the 30 pin connector though, it may be the
phone
> that's discontinued.
>
> The other scenario is that the 5C becomes the low end model, the 5 is the
> midrange model and the 5S is the new high end model. In this scenario,
Apple
> would stop manufacturing and selling the 4S.
>
> One article where the various rumors are discussed is at
> http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/iphone-5c-rumors.html
>
> On 09/08/2013 02:34 AM, Chris H wrote:
>> Ditto. The 4 or the 4s won't be going away either, the 3Gs will though
>> as iOs 7 will not run on this now ancient phone.
>>
>> On 08/09/2013 03:31, Jesus Garcia wrote:
>>> Jumping in to this discussion, I doubt the five will be going away
>>> anytime soon. In Florida don't know about anywhere else Wall Mart is
>>> selling the 5
>>> 16 GB phone for $98.00 with two year contract on provider of choice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 18:03
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering
>>> what I will be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I
>>> would be going to the 5, but on Apple Today, think that is the name,
>>> it seemed to be the rumor
>>> 5 would be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!
>>>
>>> Reggie and Allegra
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tess and others,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about
>>> what the new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific.
>>> I can't remember when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last
>>> year, but it is assumed that the new iPhone just like last year will
>>> be in Apple Stores on Friday, September 20 and also that if you order
>>> it from Apple online that you will get it on that day. I think you
>>> will be able to preorder the phone eiter on the 10th or shortly after
>>> for delivery by the 20th.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you want to know more I suggest you check if Rob will put out
>>> another

Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Chris H

What! A phone with 128 gb of torage? Just wow!

On 08/09/2013 21:47, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Christopher,

I think it's very safe to assume that the 4S will go away because of what
you said about the 5C and the 30 Pin connector. Except for the 5C having a 4
inch display and Lightning connector it is much more like the 4S than the 5
is since it is rumored to have the a5 processor.

I think it is more than conceivable that there will only be a couple of
versions of the 5C and the new 5S in 32 Gb, 64 Gb and 128 Gb. Of course now
that it is Sunday afternoon we will all know in less than 48 hours.
Speculation is fun of course *smile*.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

I don't think the question is what's going away. Obviously there will still
be a lot of iPhone 4, 4S and 5 out there. The question is what will Apple
still be manufacturing and selling as new iPhones. Googling around reveals
that there's a lot of speculation out there, and we won't know for sure
until Tuesday.

One rumor is that the 4S will be the entry level model, with it's smaller
screen, the 5C will be the midrange model and the 5S will be the high end
model. In this scenario, the iPhone 5 would stop being manufactured since
the 5C is so similar except for the plastic body.
Given that the 4S still has the 30 pin connector though, it may be the phone
that's discontinued.

The other scenario is that the 5C becomes the low end model, the 5 is the
midrange model and the 5S is the new high end model. In this scenario, Apple
would stop manufacturing and selling the 4S.

One article where the various rumors are discussed is at
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/iphone-5c-rumors.html

On 09/08/2013 02:34 AM, Chris H wrote:

Ditto. The 4 or the 4s won't be going away either, the 3Gs will though
as iOs 7 will not run on this now ancient phone.

On 08/09/2013 03:31, Jesus Garcia wrote:

Jumping in to this discussion, I doubt the five will be going away
anytime soon. In Florida don't know about anywhere else Wall Mart is
selling the 5
16 GB phone for $98.00 with two year contract on provider of choice.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 18:03
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones



Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering
what I will be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I
would be going to the 5, but on Apple Today, think that is the name,
it seemed to be the rumor
5 would be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!

Reggie and Allegra


On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Tess and others,



As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about
what the new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific.
I can't remember when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last
year, but it is assumed that the new iPhone just like last year will
be in Apple Stores on Friday, September 20 and also that if you order
it from Apple online that you will get it on that day. I think you
will be able to preorder the phone eiter on the 10th or shortly after
for delivery by the 20th.



If you want to know more I suggest you check if Rob will put out
another Today in iOS Podcast episode today or tomorrow. He did
mention the following on the Today in iOS website regarding what we
might see in the new
iPhones:



Here is a Bingo Card with many of the Rumors being thrown around for
the next Gen iPhone (5S) and possibly lower cost iPhone (5C) and what
may also be announced at the September 10th Event.

These are not my predictions - just a listing of some of the rumors I
think have even a remote possibility.



We will go over this Bingo Card on Ep 281 which will be out late this
week and then again on Ep 282 which will cover what was announced at
the Special event.

For those using voice over - below is the full list in Text:



iPhone 4, 4S & 5 killed off

Dual LED Flash (5S)

New iPhones available September 20th

128 GB Version (5S)

New Apple TV

A7 Processor (5S)

Multi Color 5C's

Near Field Communication (NFC) (5S)

iWatch

Improved Low Light Photos (5S)

12 Hours 3G Talk Time (5S)

2 GB RAM (5S)

Improved LTE (5S)

5C Cost less than $400

12 MP Rear Camera (5S)

Gold & Graphite 5S's

5S same size as 5

Wifi 802.11.AC (5S)

Finger Print Scanner (5S)

4K Video Recording (5S)

4K Video Out (5S)

China Mobile Gets the iPhone



All shall be revealed on Tuesday!





Regards,

Sieghard





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RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Christopher,

I think it's very safe to assume that the 4S will go away because of what
you said about the 5C and the 30 Pin connector. Except for the 5C having a 4
inch display and Lightning connector it is much more like the 4S than the 5
is since it is rumored to have the a5 processor.

I think it is more than conceivable that there will only be a couple of
versions of the 5C and the new 5S in 32 Gb, 64 Gb and 128 Gb. Of course now
that it is Sunday afternoon we will all know in less than 48 hours.
Speculation is fun of course *smile*.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

I don't think the question is what's going away. Obviously there will still
be a lot of iPhone 4, 4S and 5 out there. The question is what will Apple
still be manufacturing and selling as new iPhones. Googling around reveals
that there's a lot of speculation out there, and we won't know for sure
until Tuesday.

One rumor is that the 4S will be the entry level model, with it's smaller
screen, the 5C will be the midrange model and the 5S will be the high end
model. In this scenario, the iPhone 5 would stop being manufactured since
the 5C is so similar except for the plastic body. 
Given that the 4S still has the 30 pin connector though, it may be the phone
that's discontinued.

The other scenario is that the 5C becomes the low end model, the 5 is the
midrange model and the 5S is the new high end model. In this scenario, Apple
would stop manufacturing and selling the 4S.

One article where the various rumors are discussed is at
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/iphone-5c-rumors.html

On 09/08/2013 02:34 AM, Chris H wrote:
> Ditto. The 4 or the 4s won't be going away either, the 3Gs will though 
> as iOs 7 will not run on this now ancient phone.
>
> On 08/09/2013 03:31, Jesus Garcia wrote:
>> Jumping in to this discussion, I doubt the five will be going away 
>> anytime soon. In Florida don't know about anywhere else Wall Mart is 
>> selling the 5
>> 16 GB phone for $98.00 with two year contract on provider of choice.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
>> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 18:03
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones
>>
>>
>>
>> Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering 
>> what I will be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I 
>> would be going to the 5, but on Apple Today, think that is the name, 
>> it seemed to be the rumor
>> 5 would be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!
>>
>> Reggie and Allegra
>>
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tess and others,
>>
>>
>>
>> As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about 
>> what the new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific. 
>> I can't remember when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last 
>> year, but it is assumed that the new iPhone just like last year will 
>> be in Apple Stores on Friday, September 20 and also that if you order 
>> it from Apple online that you will get it on that day. I think you 
>> will be able to preorder the phone eiter on the 10th or shortly after 
>> for delivery by the 20th.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you want to know more I suggest you check if Rob will put out 
>> another Today in iOS Podcast episode today or tomorrow. He did 
>> mention the following on the Today in iOS website regarding what we 
>> might see in the new
>> iPhones:
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is a Bingo Card with many of the Rumors being thrown around for 
>> the next Gen iPhone (5S) and possibly lower cost iPhone (5C) and what 
>> may also be announced at the September 10th Event.
>>
>> These are not my predictions - just a listing of some of the rumors I 
>> think have even a remote possibility.
>>
>>
>>
>> We will go over this Bingo Card on Ep 281 which will be out late this 
>> week and then again on Ep 282 which will cover what was announced at 
>> the Special event.
>>
>> For those using voice over - below is the full list in Text:
>>
>>
>>
>> iPhone 4, 4S & 5 killed off
>>
>> Dual LED Flash (5S)
>>
>> New iPhones available September 20th
>>
>> 128 GB Version (5S)
>>
>> New Apple TV

Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Chris H
Oh ok I misunderstood the conversation. Well we'll just see what happens 
Tuesday.


On 08/09/2013 16:34, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

I’m really not sure what you mean.  Why would the iPhone 4 and 4S not be going 
away?  Why would Apple continue to make such dated hardware?

That’s really what we are talking about hear, the supply of phones to be had.  
I would guess, a couple months after the new iPhones are released this year, 
the only way to get a 4 or 4S would be to buy one used.  And I feel the same 
way about the iPhone 5.  Why would Apple bother making it with the iPhone 5C in 
the pipe line?  That would definitely be a case of duplicating one’s efforts.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:34 AM, Chris H  wrote:


Ditto. The 4 or the 4s won't be going away either, the 3Gs will though as iOs 7 
will not run on this now ancient phone.

On 08/09/2013 03:31, Jesus Garcia wrote:

Jumping in to this discussion, I doubt the five will be going away anytime
soon. In Florida don't know about anywhere else Wall Mart is selling the 5
16 GB phone for $98.00 with two year contract on provider of choice.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 18:03
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones



Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering what I
will be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I would be going to
the 5, but on Apple Today, think that is the name, it seemed to be the rumor
5 would be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!

Reggie and Allegra


On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Tess and others,



As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about what
the new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific. I can't
remember when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last year, but it is
assumed that the new iPhone just like last year will be in Apple Stores on
Friday, September 20 and also that if you order it from Apple online that
you will get it on that day. I think you will be able to preorder the phone
eiter on the 10th or shortly after for delivery by the 20th.



If you want to know more I suggest you check if Rob will put out another
Today in iOS Podcast episode today or tomorrow. He did mention the following
on the Today in iOS website regarding what we might see in the new iPhones:



Here is a Bingo Card with many of the Rumors being thrown around for the
next Gen iPhone (5S) and possibly lower cost iPhone (5C) and what may also
be announced at the September 10th Event.

These are not my predictions - just a listing of some of the rumors I think
have even a remote possibility.



We will go over this Bingo Card on Ep 281 which will be out late this week
and then again on Ep 282 which will cover what was announced at the Special
event.

For those using voice over - below is the full list in Text:



iPhone 4, 4S & 5 killed off

Dual LED Flash (5S)

New iPhones available September 20th

128 GB Version (5S)

New Apple TV

A7 Processor (5S)

Multi Color 5C's

Near Field Communication (NFC) (5S)

iWatch

Improved Low Light Photos (5S)

12 Hours 3G Talk Time (5S)

2 GB RAM (5S)

Improved LTE (5S)

5C Cost less than $400

12 MP Rear Camera (5S)

Gold & Graphite 5S's

5S same size as 5

Wifi 802.11.AC (5S)

Finger Print Scanner (5S)

4K Video Recording (5S)

4K Video Out (5S)

China Mobile Gets the iPhone



All shall be revealed on Tuesday!





Regards,

Sieghard



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Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I’m really not sure what you mean.  Why would the iPhone 4 and 4S not be going 
away?  Why would Apple continue to make such dated hardware?

That’s really what we are talking about hear, the supply of phones to be had.  
I would guess, a couple months after the new iPhones are released this year, 
the only way to get a 4 or 4S would be to buy one used.  And I feel the same 
way about the iPhone 5.  Why would Apple bother making it with the iPhone 5C in 
the pipe line?  That would definitely be a case of duplicating one’s efforts.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:34 AM, Chris H  wrote:

> Ditto. The 4 or the 4s won't be going away either, the 3Gs will though as iOs 
> 7 will not run on this now ancient phone.
> 
> On 08/09/2013 03:31, Jesus Garcia wrote:
>> Jumping in to this discussion, I doubt the five will be going away anytime
>> soon. In Florida don't know about anywhere else Wall Mart is selling the 5
>> 16 GB phone for $98.00 with two year contract on provider of choice.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Regina Alvarado
>> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 18:03
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering what I
>> will be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I would be going to
>> the 5, but on Apple Today, think that is the name, it seemed to be the rumor
>> 5 would be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!
>> 
>> Reggie and Allegra
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tess and others,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about what
>> the new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific. I can't
>> remember when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last year, but it is
>> assumed that the new iPhone just like last year will be in Apple Stores on
>> Friday, September 20 and also that if you order it from Apple online that
>> you will get it on that day. I think you will be able to preorder the phone
>> eiter on the 10th or shortly after for delivery by the 20th.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you want to know more I suggest you check if Rob will put out another
>> Today in iOS Podcast episode today or tomorrow. He did mention the following
>> on the Today in iOS website regarding what we might see in the new iPhones:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Here is a Bingo Card with many of the Rumors being thrown around for the
>> next Gen iPhone (5S) and possibly lower cost iPhone (5C) and what may also
>> be announced at the September 10th Event.
>> 
>> These are not my predictions - just a listing of some of the rumors I think
>> have even a remote possibility.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We will go over this Bingo Card on Ep 281 which will be out late this week
>> and then again on Ep 282 which will cover what was announced at the Special
>> event.
>> 
>> For those using voice over - below is the full list in Text:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> iPhone 4, 4S & 5 killed off
>> 
>> Dual LED Flash (5S)
>> 
>> New iPhones available September 20th
>> 
>> 128 GB Version (5S)
>> 
>> New Apple TV
>> 
>> A7 Processor (5S)
>> 
>> Multi Color 5C's
>> 
>> Near Field Communication (NFC) (5S)
>> 
>> iWatch
>> 
>> Improved Low Light Photos (5S)
>> 
>> 12 Hours 3G Talk Time (5S)
>> 
>> 2 GB RAM (5S)
>> 
>> Improved LTE (5S)
>> 
>> 5C Cost less than $400
>> 
>> 12 MP Rear Camera (5S)
>> 
>> Gold & Graphite 5S's
>> 
>> 5S same size as 5
>> 
>> Wifi 802.11.AC (5S)
>> 
>> Finger Print Scanner (5S)
>> 
>> 4K Video Recording (5S)
>> 
>> 4K Video Out (5S)
>> 
>> China Mobile Gets the iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All shall be revealed on Tuesday!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sieghard
>> 
> 
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Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't think the question is what's going away. Obviously there will 
still be a lot of iPhone 4, 4S and 5 out there. The question is what 
will Apple still be manufacturing and selling as new iPhones. Googling 
around reveals that there's a lot of speculation out there, and we won't 
know for sure until Tuesday.


One rumor is that the 4S will be the entry level model, with it's 
smaller screen, the 5C will be the midrange model and the 5S will be the 
high end model. In this scenario, the iPhone 5 would stop being 
manufactured since the 5C is so similar except for the plastic body. 
Given that the 4S still has the 30 pin connector though, it may be the 
phone that's discontinued.


The other scenario is that the 5C becomes the low end model, the 5 is 
the midrange model and the 5S is the new high end model. In this 
scenario, Apple would stop manufacturing and selling the 4S.


One article where the various rumors are discussed is at 
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/iphone-5c-rumors.html


On 09/08/2013 02:34 AM, Chris H wrote:

Ditto. The 4 or the 4s won't be going away either, the 3Gs will though
as iOs 7 will not run on this now ancient phone.

On 08/09/2013 03:31, Jesus Garcia wrote:

Jumping in to this discussion, I doubt the five will be going away
anytime
soon. In Florida don't know about anywhere else Wall Mart is selling
the 5
16 GB phone for $98.00 with two year contract on provider of choice.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 18:03
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones



Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering
what I
will be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I would be
going to
the 5, but on Apple Today, think that is the name, it seemed to be the
rumor
5 would be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!

Reggie and Allegra


On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Tess and others,



As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about what
the new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific. I can't
remember when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last year, but it is
assumed that the new iPhone just like last year will be in Apple
Stores on
Friday, September 20 and also that if you order it from Apple online that
you will get it on that day. I think you will be able to preorder the
phone
eiter on the 10th or shortly after for delivery by the 20th.



If you want to know more I suggest you check if Rob will put out another
Today in iOS Podcast episode today or tomorrow. He did mention the
following
on the Today in iOS website regarding what we might see in the new
iPhones:



Here is a Bingo Card with many of the Rumors being thrown around for the
next Gen iPhone (5S) and possibly lower cost iPhone (5C) and what may
also
be announced at the September 10th Event.

These are not my predictions - just a listing of some of the rumors I
think
have even a remote possibility.



We will go over this Bingo Card on Ep 281 which will be out late this
week
and then again on Ep 282 which will cover what was announced at the
Special
event.

For those using voice over - below is the full list in Text:



iPhone 4, 4S & 5 killed off

Dual LED Flash (5S)

New iPhones available September 20th

128 GB Version (5S)

New Apple TV

A7 Processor (5S)

Multi Color 5C's

Near Field Communication (NFC) (5S)

iWatch

Improved Low Light Photos (5S)

12 Hours 3G Talk Time (5S)

2 GB RAM (5S)

Improved LTE (5S)

5C Cost less than $400

12 MP Rear Camera (5S)

Gold & Graphite 5S's

5S same size as 5

Wifi 802.11.AC (5S)

Finger Print Scanner (5S)

4K Video Recording (5S)

4K Video Out (5S)

China Mobile Gets the iPhone



All shall be revealed on Tuesday!





Regards,

Sieghard





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Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-08 Thread Chris H
Ditto. The 4 or the 4s won't be going away either, the 3Gs will though 
as iOs 7 will not run on this now ancient phone.


On 08/09/2013 03:31, Jesus Garcia wrote:

Jumping in to this discussion, I doubt the five will be going away anytime
soon. In Florida don't know about anywhere else Wall Mart is selling the 5
16 GB phone for $98.00 with two year contract on provider of choice.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 18:03
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones



Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering what I
will be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I would be going to
the 5, but on Apple Today, think that is the name, it seemed to be the rumor
5 would be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!

Reggie and Allegra


On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Tess and others,



As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about what
the new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific. I can't
remember when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last year, but it is
assumed that the new iPhone just like last year will be in Apple Stores on
Friday, September 20 and also that if you order it from Apple online that
you will get it on that day. I think you will be able to preorder the phone
eiter on the 10th or shortly after for delivery by the 20th.



If you want to know more I suggest you check if Rob will put out another
Today in iOS Podcast episode today or tomorrow. He did mention the following
on the Today in iOS website regarding what we might see in the new iPhones:



Here is a Bingo Card with many of the Rumors being thrown around for the
next Gen iPhone (5S) and possibly lower cost iPhone (5C) and what may also
be announced at the September 10th Event.

These are not my predictions - just a listing of some of the rumors I think
have even a remote possibility.



We will go over this Bingo Card on Ep 281 which will be out late this week
and then again on Ep 282 which will cover what was announced at the Special
event.

For those using voice over - below is the full list in Text:



iPhone 4, 4S & 5 killed off

Dual LED Flash (5S)

New iPhones available September 20th

128 GB Version (5S)

New Apple TV

A7 Processor (5S)

Multi Color 5C's

Near Field Communication (NFC) (5S)

iWatch

Improved Low Light Photos (5S)

12 Hours 3G Talk Time (5S)

2 GB RAM (5S)

Improved LTE (5S)

5C Cost less than $400

12 MP Rear Camera (5S)

Gold & Graphite 5S's

5S same size as 5

Wifi 802.11.AC (5S)

Finger Print Scanner (5S)

4K Video Recording (5S)

4K Video Out (5S)

China Mobile Gets the iPhone



All shall be revealed on Tuesday!





Regards,

Sieghard



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RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Reggie, Jesus and others,

 

I can't say if the 5 will go away or not and I doubt until next Tuesday
anybody can say for sure unless maybe Tim Cook and a few others;
unfortunately I don't think Tim is on this list *smile*.

In any case, in my opinion it is possible that both the 4S and 5 will go
away and only the new 5S and 5C phones will be options going forward.

What Chris says about his friend upgradingto a 5 shortly means little since
I don't know what "shortly" means. Of course if I walked into a store
tomorrow and said I wanted a new iPhone then I could buy an iPhone 5
although why anybody right now would even upgrade to begin with is beyond
me. Even if Apple discontinues the iPhone 5 to push people into either the
5S or 5C, There will still be many phones in the supply chain so that for at
least some weeks one can probably get a very good deal on an iPhone 5.

 

As I said in my last message, all shall be revealed in a couple of days.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jesus Garcia
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

 

Jumping in to this discussion, I doubt the five will be going away anytime
soon. In Florida don't know about anywhere else Wall Mart is selling the 5
16 GB phone for $98.00 with two year contract on provider of choice.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 18:03
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

 

Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering what I
will be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I would be going to
the 5, but on Apple Today, think that is the name, it seemed to be the rumor
5 would be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!

Reggie and Allegra


On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Tess and others,

 

As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about what
the new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific. I can't
remember when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last year, but it is
assumed that the new iPhone just like last year will be in Apple Stores on
Friday, September 20 and also that if you order it from Apple online that
you will get it on that day. I think you will be able to preorder the phone
eiter on the 10th or shortly after for delivery by the 20th.

 

If you want to know more I suggest you check if Rob will put out another
Today in iOS Podcast episode today or tomorrow. He did mention the following
on the Today in iOS website regarding what we might see in the new iPhones:

 

Here is a Bingo Card with many of the Rumors being thrown around for the
next Gen iPhone (5S) and possibly lower cost iPhone (5C) and what may also
be announced at the September 10th Event.

These are not my predictions - just a listing of some of the rumors I think
have even a remote possibility.

 

We will go over this Bingo Card on Ep 281 which will be out late this week
and then again on Ep 282 which will cover what was announced at the Special
event.  

For those using voice over - below is the full list in Text:

 

iPhone 4, 4S & 5 killed off

Dual LED Flash (5S)

New iPhones available September 20th

128 GB Version (5S)

New Apple TV

A7 Processor (5S)

Multi Color 5C's

Near Field Communication (NFC) (5S)

iWatch

Improved Low Light Photos (5S)

12 Hours 3G Talk Time (5S)

2 GB RAM (5S)

Improved LTE (5S)

5C Cost less than $400

12 MP Rear Camera (5S)

Gold & Graphite 5S's

5S same size as 5

Wifi 802.11.AC (5S)

Finger Print Scanner (5S)

4K Video Recording (5S)

4K Video Out (5S)

China Mobile Gets the iPhone

 

All shall be revealed on Tuesday!

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-07 Thread Jesus Garcia
Jumping in to this discussion, I doubt the five will be going away anytime
soon. In Florida don't know about anywhere else Wall Mart is selling the 5
16 GB phone for $98.00 with two year contract on provider of choice.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 18:03
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

 

Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering what I
will be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I would be going to
the 5, but on Apple Today, think that is the name, it seemed to be the rumor
5 would be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!

Reggie and Allegra


On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Tess and others,

 

As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about what
the new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific. I can't
remember when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last year, but it is
assumed that the new iPhone just like last year will be in Apple Stores on
Friday, September 20 and also that if you order it from Apple online that
you will get it on that day. I think you will be able to preorder the phone
eiter on the 10th or shortly after for delivery by the 20th.

 

If you want to know more I suggest you check if Rob will put out another
Today in iOS Podcast episode today or tomorrow. He did mention the following
on the Today in iOS website regarding what we might see in the new iPhones:

 

Here is a Bingo Card with many of the Rumors being thrown around for the
next Gen iPhone (5S) and possibly lower cost iPhone (5C) and what may also
be announced at the September 10th Event.

These are not my predictions - just a listing of some of the rumors I think
have even a remote possibility.

 

We will go over this Bingo Card on Ep 281 which will be out late this week
and then again on Ep 282 which will cover what was announced at the Special
event.  

For those using voice over - below is the full list in Text:

 

iPhone 4, 4S & 5 killed off

Dual LED Flash (5S)

New iPhones available September 20th

128 GB Version (5S)

New Apple TV

A7 Processor (5S)

Multi Color 5C's

Near Field Communication (NFC) (5S)

iWatch

Improved Low Light Photos (5S)

12 Hours 3G Talk Time (5S)

2 GB RAM (5S)

Improved LTE (5S)

5C Cost less than $400

12 MP Rear Camera (5S)

Gold & Graphite 5S's

5S same size as 5

Wifi 802.11.AC (5S)

Finger Print Scanner (5S)

4K Video Recording (5S)

4K Video Out (5S)

China Mobile Gets the iPhone

 

All shall be revealed on Tuesday!

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-07 Thread Chris H
No I don't think so the 5 will be staying. I know a friend who will be 
upgrading to the 5 very shortly so this is proof.


On 07/09/2013 23:03, Regina Alvarado wrote:

Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering what I will 
be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I would be going to the 5, 
but on Apple Today, think that is the name, it seemed to be the rumor 5 would 
be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!

Reggie and Allegra

On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Tess and others,

As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about what the 
new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific. I can’t remember 
when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last year, but it is assumed that 
the new iPhone just like last year will be in Apple Stores on Friday, September 
20 and also that if you order it from Apple online that you will get it on that 
day. I think you will be able to preorder the phone eiter on the 10th or 
shortly after for delivery by the 20th.

If you want to know more I suggest you check if Rob will put out another Today 
in iOS Podcast episode today or tomorrow. He did mention the following on the 
Today in iOS website regarding what we might see in the new iPhones:

Here is a Bingo Card with many of the Rumors being thrown around for the next 
Gen iPhone (5S) and possibly lower cost iPhone (5C) and what may also be 
announced at the September 10th Event.
These are not my predictions - just a listing of some of the rumors I think 
have even a remote possibility.

We will go over this Bingo Card on Ep 281 which will be out late this week and 
then again on Ep 282 which will cover what was announced at the Special event.
For those using voice over - below is the full list in Text:

iPhone 4, 4S & 5 killed off
Dual LED Flash (5S)
New iPhones available September 20th
128 GB Version (5S)
New Apple TV
A7 Processor (5S)
Multi Color 5C's
Near Field Communication (NFC) (5S)
iWatch
Improved Low Light Photos (5S)
12 Hours 3G Talk Time (5S)
2 GB RAM (5S)
Improved LTE (5S)
5C Cost less than $400
12 MP Rear Camera (5S)
Gold & Graphite 5S's
5S same size as 5
Wifi 802.11.AC (5S)
Finger Print Scanner (5S)
4K Video Recording (5S)
4K Video Out (5S)
China Mobile Gets the iPhone

All shall be revealed on Tuesday!


Regards,
Sieghard



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Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones

2013-09-07 Thread Regina Alvarado
Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering what I will 
be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I would be going to the 5, 
but on Apple Today, think that is the name, it seemed to be the rumor 5 would 
be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not!

Reggie and Allegra

On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Tess and others,
 
As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about what the 
new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific. I can’t remember 
when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last year, but it is assumed that 
the new iPhone just like last year will be in Apple Stores on Friday, September 
20 and also that if you order it from Apple online that you will get it on that 
day. I think you will be able to preorder the phone eiter on the 10th or 
shortly after for delivery by the 20th.
 
If you want to know more I suggest you check if Rob will put out another Today 
in iOS Podcast episode today or tomorrow. He did mention the following on the 
Today in iOS website regarding what we might see in the new iPhones:
 
Here is a Bingo Card with many of the Rumors being thrown around for the next 
Gen iPhone (5S) and possibly lower cost iPhone (5C) and what may also be 
announced at the September 10th Event.
These are not my predictions - just a listing of some of the rumors I think 
have even a remote possibility.
 
We will go over this Bingo Card on Ep 281 which will be out late this week and 
then again on Ep 282 which will cover what was announced at the Special event. 
For those using voice over - below is the full list in Text:
 
iPhone 4, 4S & 5 killed off
Dual LED Flash (5S)
New iPhones available September 20th
128 GB Version (5S)
New Apple TV
A7 Processor (5S)
Multi Color 5C's
Near Field Communication (NFC) (5S)
iWatch
Improved Low Light Photos (5S)
12 Hours 3G Talk Time (5S)
2 GB RAM (5S)
Improved LTE (5S)
5C Cost less than $400
12 MP Rear Camera (5S)
Gold & Graphite 5S's
5S same size as 5
Wifi 802.11.AC (5S)
Finger Print Scanner (5S)
4K Video Recording (5S)
4K Video Out (5S)
China Mobile Gets the iPhone
 
All shall be revealed on Tuesday!
 
 
Regards,
Sieghard
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